Aubrey Marcus and Joe Rogan explore consciousness through psychedelics—ayahuasca visions of "world crushers" and gender-fluid Jesus—arguing self-identity is fluid, shaped by choice not labels. They contrast charismatic megafauna like bears with human projections onto animals, critiquing rigid ideologies and religion’s historical manipulation of ethics. MMA’s raw combat, from Badr Hari’s evolution to Roger Huerta’s viral fight, mirrors primal struggle, offering growth despite risks, while modern life lacks such challenges. Narratives like Conor McGregor’s amplify sports’ appeal, but deeper truths may lie in non-verbal intent or surrendering resistance to fear. [Automatically generated summary]
Dude, it's really, the whole thing is really bizarre because it just shows you how, like, people have these attachments to a certain species for no reason.
Like, uh, Steve Rinello talks about it with bears.
He calls them charismatic megafauna.
That there's something about...
Steve's so eloquent.
You know when he's uh He's there's he's right though.
There's like something about bears that makes them very different in our eyes than any other animal and birds They have these hierarchies.
So this hawk flew into my fence.
I have a glass fence.
Hawk didn't know what the fuck was going on.
BOOM! KO'd.
Jacked.
My daughters rescued the bird and then they go to the pet store and buy little pinkies which are these little tiny mice and And they feed them to the hawk.
So they feed this little tiny mouse.
They decide that the mouse is not as important as the hawk.
The hawk has to stay alive.
Fuck these little baby mice.
So they feed the baby mice to the hawk.
He eats all of them but one.
My daughter wants to keep it.
I say, you can't keep it.
It's gonna die.
It needs to have milk.
I'll just feed it to the chickens.
So there's a lot of hemming and hawing, a lot of crying.
Everybody wants the mouse to stay alive after you just fed 30 of them to this fucking dinosaur.
And people have loved bears since way, way back before, like, teddy bears and stuff.
You know, before there was the internet and these different things.
There's just certain animals that you have this kinship towards and certain, like, sacred animals when you're down in the jungle and different places that always seem to inspire something within mankind.
At the end of the day, if you see how they behave, especially about grizzly bears that I got out of that Grizzly Man movie, is they're so almost robotic in their predatory drive, in their drive to survive, their survival drive.
They're just moving around looking for stuff to eat all the time.
But the advantage is instead of hiding all of the food that you need for the winter like a squirrel, you eat and eat and eat and nobody's going to take your food from you because it's your fat.
It's on your body.
Like the only way to get that fat is to fight the bear and nobody wants to fight the bear.
So they can survive the winter a whole different way.
It's so fascinating when you see all the different methods that nature's figured out to sort of overcome the obstacles that the environment can throw at you.
There's animals that can survive.
I was in the ocean.
Recently, we're snorkeling, and I'm looking around at all these turtles and all these fish, and I'm like, they live here!
They fucking live here!
I mean, I can only stick my head under there for a few seconds.
I come up, I gotta spray water out of the top of the nozzle.
There's a living thing surviving in there.
Like, life has found a bunch of weird, weird ways to get along.
This is one of those really dumb, like, people who don't believe in evolution arguments.
You're telling me.
You're telling me that's not by design.
Come on, dude.
Because somebody who's posted a video, some guy posted a video, like an animated gif file of the flat, he was a flat earth guy, and it was just the earth, like a flat plane.
It wasn't even high resolution, it was like low resolution, it was flat, and he was like, show me again the curvature.
Well, I think that whole, people just want to get a leg up, you know, in everything you're doing, you're just trying to edge someone out.
So if you can believe in flat earth and it actually is flat earth, you got a little bit of leg up on everybody else who thinks this shit's a globe, right?
So they're willing to take that gambit.
They're willing to place that bet like, fuck it, man, I'm going in on flat earth because if I'm right, then I can say fuck you to everybody else just a little bit.
Yeah, I mean, maybe all is the wrong word for Nazi guard or Flat Earth, but I think they could get a lot of us.
They could get a lot of us.
I've told you the story about those fucking rod things that I thought were real.
I thought there was rods.
You ever heard of Roswell rods?
Those little, they're supposed to be insects that are flying through the sky so fast you can't even see them.
And the only way to pick them up is video cameras.
The only way to actually see them.
So they would find them on these videos.
Like, oh my god, we didn't even notice this at the time.
And they decided that there was these gigantic things that could be, you know, who knows how many feet long, and they're like jellyfish, and they fly through the air at like fucking light speed.
It's so stupid!
It turns out what it was is just an artifact when you film things.
When you film things with shitty old cameras and when they have new cameras, see that's the rod.
See that thing that looks like a twig?
That's what they look like.
And some of them you see way up in the sky.
It's just a bug that's flying so fast that the camera can't pick it up right.
So the camera makes it look like that.
Like that last one, Jamie?
Yeah, look at that.
See how it looks like it's almost like a jellyfish weaving through the air?
Wouldn't it be amazing if you could find balls of light around you, little organisms or life forms, and if you were more loving, they surrounded you, and you just had to take a picture of people and tell whether or not, oh my god, it's This dude's awesome.
I mean, it's kind of like once you've done enough ayahuasca and done enough DMT, though, then you open yourself up to the possibility that there are things potentially outside of our ability to perceive them.
It's like when you go see something with such a vivid imagination, especially in the psychedelic space, you see something and then there's that debate.
Is that real?
And then if enough people have seen it or enough people believe in it, like dragons, for example, are they real or not?
Well, they're clearly not in the 3D space, but everybody knows and has emotional reactions to this one being and they come to you in vision.
So, what is that?
Is a dragon real?
Well, what's your definition of real?
You know, like, is it the collection of an idea in your brain, all of the lights gathering around that you can share and reproduce, and then that thing comes through like an archetype into your brain?
It's a strange thing that there's so many different cultures that have sort of captured that.
And you've got to wonder...
How many different things are we missing from the fossil record?
We know if birds exist.
Who knows how many things existed that we just haven't found yet.
It's entirely possible that some weird fucking lizard existed at some part of the world and people could see it.
You know, some weird snake thing that walked.
And then the legend spread of that, and then people saw a bunch of different giant lizards.
Like, if you saw a Komodo dragon, if you were just wandering through the jungle and you saw a full-size Komodo dragon and it had its mouth open, you would for sure think you were in the presence of a demon.
If you ran away from that, right, no cameras, right?
No cameras.
You gotta take things from your imagination and draw them for people.
What are you gonna draw?
You're gonna draw a goddamn demon.
A hissing giant lizard with saliva coated in botulism.
Those are horrible monsters, man.
Those are fucking ruthless, ruthless, predatory lizards.
Giant lizards.
And you would draw them.
They would have wings.
I mean, if you were just a primitive person and you ran into one of those things, if you ran into a Nile crocodile, Jesus Christ!
I put a video up of one jack and a vulture.
Did you see that shit?
This vulture fucked up and got too close to this lake.
Yeah, I think, I mean, the key is we got to elevate consciousness to a point where we're actually looking at these situations and being able, and I think that's the point that Graham and Randall make, and I couldn't agree more.
Like, people have to be at a level where we can actually do something about that instead of fighting with each other.
I was just at that age, you know, where you have all the testosterone brewing, but the frustration because you're little and you couldn't beat anybody up.
And I think one of the most brilliant parts of Jordan Peterson's podcast yesterday was that he identified in his mind, and I tend to agree with him, that one of the reasons why things are getting so squirrely is we've removed the metaphysical underpinnings behind our understandings of everything.
And so, like all of this social justice and all these pronouns, I think a lot of that is that we've removed the metaphysical understanding of self.
And so if you really don't understand who your self is, then you really can't have self-love, self-worth, self-confidence, because it's all built on something else.
And that surrogate for self that they create is identity.
Who you are, what pronoun you are, what tribe you identify with, what you do, what your race is, and then all of these parts of identity, which really have absolutely nothing to do with self in the metaphysical sense.
Become the thing that you defend.
You defend that thing as if it is yourself, but it's not.
And I think that's, you know, one of the paths that I've taken is to understand those metaphysical underpinnings.
Like, understand what the self is rather than just trying to work on self-worth and self-confidence and self-love.
Well, you gotta fucking first understand the self.
The stuff that he was saying about religion About the need for this understanding of good and evil and how it plays out and to stay on that balance of good and evil and to live, you know, what he was talking about, a true life.
Really fascinating because it was one of those things where he's thinking at an extremely high level.
And so when you're following him, you have to be sure, am I following him?
Am I really getting what he's saying here?
You know, because he's talking about Being someone who hates ideologies, but he's a very religious man.
I think really the most confusing part of what he was saying was the use of the word religion.
Because a little bit like Daniele in his book, Create Your Own Religion, he's clearly created his variation of religion that allows him to use that word.
But for most people, the colloquial understanding of religion is much, much different.
And I think it was confusing.
I think he would probably benefit from maybe looking at that word and seeing if it's conveying what he actually means.
And that they've been a part of our life for so long that this recent jettison That our society has taken away from it.
You know, we've sort of launched ourselves away and become more and more cynical about our roots and our understanding of who we are in this world and like what is important and what is bullshit.
You know, and that's all great.
I think that's super important and that's what human beings are here for.
We're here to be curious.
One of the things that I think people really do really well with is structure.
And when people don't have a structure, like a reason to behave in an ethical and kind way, or a better to strive for, they struggle without a structure.
And I think that's what he really meant about these religious truths as compared to scientific truths.
These true understandings that form the bedrock that you can build everything else off of.
Again, going back to self.
What is the self?
Well, when you look deeper and deeper, it's nothing but the embodied consciousness, the consciousness within us.
And then when you understand that you're consciousness, then you can ditch all of these other things that you're trying to pile on top of and make it so important, like all of these identity things.
But you have to get to, at least where my metaphysical understanding is, that The self is consciousness embodied in this awesome meat vehicle we get to play around with and experience life and interact with each other and taste things and fight things and fuck things.
Like, it's amazing.
But ultimately, you know, we're just that spark of consciousness.
I really like what you're saying, too, about how...
And one of the metaphysical understandings that I have...
I mean, I think you arrive at it from different ways.
I think religion can obviously be a great vehicle to help you arrive at that.
You can do it through philosophy.
You can do it through...
And I've kind of gone mostly through that experience route with the different plant medicines and things.
And you arrive at these different truths and that idea that you reconcile the darkness within you, that thing inside yourself that is inherently has all the capacity for evil.
That was brought to me in a psychedelic experience where I was going in and I realized that I myself It was all the darkness and all the light.
I was good and bad, arrayed on a spectrum, and was capable of doing every good thing and every bad thing.
And it was the most horrifying experience I've ever had.
Like, recognizing that I was all of those things, but the only thing that decided who I was was choice.
And then that choice was enough.
But you had to first reconcile the capability of being everything before you can layer on that element of Alright, I am everything, but I choose to be this.
I choose truth.
I choose love.
I choose to have faith against the fear.
And that's, you know, that's ultimately then who you are.
But going down into those subterranean depths and realizing that we all have fucked up thoughts.
You know, we're all a little bit off here or there.
Just like watching that fucking roadrunner jack that snake, we're animals.
We're living organisms.
And we're living organisms that are aware of this crazy sea of genes that we live in.
This sea of fucking cells competing for survival.
In these weird forms.
With these weird rules.
And we're in that.
But we're, as far as we know, we're the only ones that are aware that we're in it.
Unless dolphins are aware.
They could be aware.
You've ever heard of something called a false killer whale?
Dude!
I was in Hawaii this week.
We did a little fishing with the kids.
Had a great time.
And we're on this boat, and this guy, Steve, who's on the boat with me, who's one of the guys working on the boat, told me that they had a run-in with these false killer whales where they were pulling in these 50-pound tunas and this fucking gigantic 20-foot-long thing.
I mean, they figured out that if your line is taut, the fish ain't moving anywhere, it's fighting, it's trying to go this way, the drag, the reel, that's, like, easy one to get.
Going back to what you were saying, though, about the self being this collection of cells, I think that's really kind of interesting because the self is so many different cells that are kind of sending competing signals to the brain, all of them trying to...
Almost vie for their own survival and then the brain puts out like a prime directive of what the things that are best for that but now that we're understanding so much of our gut biome and how much that contributes to the self it contributes you know neurotransmitter production immune cell production but every time we shit we drop a bunch of that gut biome into the toilet I mean it's it's going to feed on the on the feces and then we drop it in there so it's like our self is changing You know,
every time we take a dump, like that collection of things that we call self, which are some pathogenic organisms, some helpful organisms, some skin cells, all of it's contributing to self, all of it's contributing messages to the brain, and it's changing it all the time.
And I think that's why people, when they go looking for the self, it's so squirrely, because...
What is the self?
I mean, it changes every single day.
You're a different self when you're angry or happy or mad or in love as when you're inspired or after a workout, you're a different self than when you start.
We're just this amalgamation, but it's almost an ideology of self to call it one thing and to call it, oh, this is me.
There's got to be some techniques to making yourself more positive all the time.
I think that's one of the things about the Wim Hof breathing that I really like is that when you're doing any kind of breathing exercise, I think any, like even the beginning of Bikram yoga, when you do that crazy breathing, when you breathe, and then your neck goes back.
I think what that really makes you do is concentrate on the moment and it releases excess tension to the point where you have a better ability to be yourself.
Mm-hmm.
Totally.
I think there's a lot of burdens that we don't recognize that cling to us, and we're carrying them around, and we don't realize it until we get them free, and then we go, oh, I needed to go run.
Sometimes you just go, oh, I just needed a lift.
I needed to do something.
Now nothing's bothering me.
The same world exists, but 45 minutes of rigorous exercise, and you don't give a fuck about it anymore.
And this thing that was this overwhelming moment in your life, like, it's all a matter of perspective.
And the best perspective that I find is when I can tap into that consciousness element, what you can call it, people call it your higher self, whatever, there's a billion names for it, but it's the best version of yourself.
Like, who you are at your very, very best when you're filled with the most love and the most peace and the most, like, inner just contentment and satisfaction.
Like, your best self.
And then when you can find ways to access that, I think you're absolutely right.
Yoga.
Breathing, flotation, you know, nature, flow state, all of these ways are ways to tap into that best self, which is usually, you know, anchored in the present moment and is you at your very best.
And from that vantage point, you see the obstacles laid out in front of you and maybe they don't go away, but maybe you can look at them, you know, as you should, like an advantage, an opportunity to grow stronger, you know?
He's making people so happy everywhere, and he's enforcing this really positive...
We have behaving and thinking for people.
Like, you could never imagine yourself swearing around Bill Cosby.
You know, he was this...
Upstanding PhD guy I think in a lot of ways that's the same way about Religion like if it wasn't for religion and I'm not an advocate of religion Currently like to use it currently in the same form that everybody's using it But I'm just saying if you looked at like humankind as a whole if it wasn't for Believing that we had these crazy rules then we had to do good Otherwise the deity would come and strike us down if it wasn't like the fear literal literal fear of God That kept people from just raping and
pillaging and doing whatever the fuck they wanted to.
Who knows how much longer it would have taken us to get to the place where you can fight over gender pronouns.
It's almost like a system that may at some point have been necessary.
We don't know the people.
We weren't around the people 3,000 years ago.
We don't know what they would have done without the threat and that fear of God because there was no DNA evidence.
There was no inspectors and detectives.
So maybe it was necessary, but clearly now the dogma that's surrounding it is an impediment to our happiness, an impediment to the better truths that are going to hopefully make this world a more positive place for everybody.
Imagine if there was a heaven and we were just talking shit.
Imagine if like one day the space shuttle takes the wrong turn and it's on its way up into orbit and it just pops through this little hole and like, oh shit.
You know, I think it's just people have made that wrong turn, like Jordan Peterson was saying, of taking these things as literal when they should be metaphysical.
Like, we all have the ability to create heaven and hell in our own life, which is a point he eloquently made.
And then, you know, when we are pure consciousness, what I've experienced, at least, from all these psychedelic experiences, when the body disappears and becomes less prominent in your thinking, you are...
What's seemingly just pure consciousness.
You know, there's also that opportunity there for heaven to embrace all of the love.
And then there's also the opportunity to look back on your life like, what the fuck?
You know, I made these choices that hurt these people.
And that is this almost...
Hell, you know, so hell and heaven is again, you know, as above, so below.
It's just a mental state, you know, and that could be the same, very same mental state that we go across.
But instead, we tried to make it concrete.
We tried to, you know, Salvador Bosch, you know, tried to create all of these horrible things of things biting you and burning you and viscerating your genitals and prying you apart.
When all of that is really a metaphor for what's happening in your mind, you know, not an actual place.
And what happens when he's liberated from all of the rationalizations?
You know, like, when all of those things disappear, like, you know, you get in the float tank, and you see all these things that have allowed you to think a certain way, and then you go floating, and then all of those structures go apart, and you look at that thing you did and go, huh, was that cool?
Was that douchey?
You know, like, because, but he's never had that moment.
He's never stopped the hamster wheel long enough to get still to be able to look at his life from his higher self and be like, whoa, what am I doing?
Look at all this momentum.
Look at all the software viruses that my open source consciousness has picked up along the way.
These different fears, these different greeds, these lusts for power, these different things that have created this thing that's never stopped and the momentum's never gotten quiet enough for them to really analyze it.
I think that's all helpful to thinking about it because the more we lose that attachment to this body as being like anything but the machine, the machine that's going to allow us to experience consciousness in the physical form, I think when we really look at that, then that's going to be a helpful kind of metaphysical underpinning.
So we're not so caught up in these elements that are causing us so much discomfort and suffering.
You upgrade the hardware and then we just got to make sure that we're upgrading the software and eliminating the viruses, running those system checks to get all of these bad programs out of our head, get the better metaphysical truth programs like the Platinum Rule.
Everybody is you living a different life.
Treat them as such.
Get some of these other software programs running, discard the old ones, then upgrade the hardware all you want.
But both have to kind of come in conjunction.
Otherwise, we'll do what we did with technology elevating faster than consciousness.
Technology elevates faster than consciousness, and we just fuck each other up better.
It's just trying to get us more and more addicted to it.
I was thinking of this the other day when I was flying back from Hawaii.
I was thinking of how many people I see stare at a phone at the airport, at the fucking mall, at a restaurant.
Myself, I'm staring at my own phone.
I mean, I'm not immune to it.
We're all staring at fucking phones.
And I'm like, if I was a pilgrim, if you went back in a time machine, you grabbed a pilgrim, and you dragged them to 2016, and you said, what are you seeing?
They'd be like, my God!
They're all prisoners to the looking glass!
They've been captured.
It's like they're under a spell.
They're under a spell.
They stare at a fucking glass screen first thing in the morning.
They check their email.
They go to work.
They stare at a screen.
They look at their navigation system while they're fucking driving to work.
They get home.
They watch TV before they go to bed.
They check their email again.
They're just staring at fucking screens.
They're living their lives through screens.
The looking glass.
It's captivated them.
I would think they were under the spell of glass.
Like there was something about, something behind.
They're not moving.
They're just sitting there in front of this fucking thing all day.
There's almost no movement.
Almost all the time, you're in front of a screen, you're just sitting there.
If you saw that and you had no idea what the fuck a television was or a phone, you were just a person from another time period, and you said, what do you think's going on?
Like, well, these fucking people are under a spell.
They're clearly under a spell.
Like, it's giving them something, yeah, but that's what a spell is.
I mean, when the fucking, when the hypnotic dancer dances in front of you, and then all of a sudden you don't even know where you are anymore, it's because you're looking at something cool.
You're seeing something amazing, and that amazing thing is making you want more of it, so you're spending more money to get a better computer, to make better explosions on the bigger screen that has the better sound, and it keeps going deeper and deeper, and every fucking new phone has some new way to get you excited, and you're staring at the newest and best screen, and you're just locked into this sort of hypnotic trance, Of technology.
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Oh, it allows you to Bluetooth with your navigation system.
I think what's interesting to me is I think we're in this intermediary stage where we're watching this rapid advancement and things are getting more and more interesting.
But I think there's going to be a tipping point where technology is so ubiquitous that we'll actually...
It'll kind of settle into our lives in a better way.
And maybe some people will get completely lost.
But I think a lot of us are already reaching that point where it's almost too much.
And it's forcing us to make our own boundaries.
Put our phone down.
You know, this idea of put your phone away on this retreat.
There's no phones here.
We're starting to develop the counter-reaction to it.
But it has to get to the point of ridiculous in order for us to do, you know, have this kind of counter-reaction.
They rebuilt the Thunderdome, basically, and they had people on bungee cords, and two topless chicks were smashing into each other on bungee cords, beating each other with foam sabers as, like, house music played behind, and a fucking fire-breathing dragon car, like, rode by breathing fire.
But after you've been there for a while, you realize the times that you enjoy the most are getting high with your homies in the RV. That's the absolute best time you have at Burning Man, and those just laughing and hanging, drinking a beer in the RV. Don't you think that's enhanced, though, by the chaotic environment and the fact that you have this crazy feeling like, wow, we're here.
Yeah, all of it contributes, but then just realizing we can do that RV moment anywhere.
You don't need to be in Burning Man.
That is the most special shit.
The most special shit is the simple shit.
So you can take all this technology, it does all this awesome stuff, but it's never going to beat that hike or that time you're hanging and playing with your kids or that time you went fishing or that time.
It's never going to beat that.
And you start to realize that when it gets to the ridiculous.
It's just when it's on this kind of intermediary level that it's hard for us to figure out, I think.
Well, I think the only way to truly appreciate the natural world...
Excuse me.
To truly appreciate the wonders of the natural world is to be engaged in it separate of the electronic world.
If you're on some crazy hike, but you're also staring at your phone the entire time you're walking, you're just not going to get the whole feeling.
If you're hiking in Yosemite and some of those incredible views and vistas and you're traveling around this amazing nature, you're not going to really take that in if you're looking at your phone all the time.
I mean, even before there was these phones and selfies, there was paintings, and then there was just your appearance in general, so people would get seduced by their reflection in the mirror and looking pretty.
And then...
All the way back, maybe even before there was mirrors, there was that time in the brook, and that's where you get the myth of Narcissus, who just couldn't stop looking at his reflection in the waters of the stream.
And that was like the original point of, you start looking at yourself not as self, separating yourself from self, you'll never be in the present moment.
You'll always be looking at yourself, judging yourself, and that's a game you can never fucking win.
It's just weird to think that they were struggling between, I guess, a big dick represented virility, which represented conquest, which represented war, which represented strife, like all those big dick dudes just coming over the mountains, fucking big shaggy beards, swinging swords and shit.
Bright white like toothpaste just catches the moonlight and glows boom shoots out looks like bones like liquid bones coming out of his dick you could You can't have that guy around with his big dick.
You need little dudes with six-packs that look like they could go gay at any moment in time.
If you're a kid and you get fucked by a dude, I think there's got to be a correlation there between having the desire to do the same thing.
If your dad beats you, then you want to beat when you're a dad.
It's the same kind of ingrained thing, and I think they just got this momentum of kid fucking, and then that probably contributed, along with just the open-mindedness and not being homophobic.
Actually, they sometimes were homophobic against the people who would receive the dick, but the people who were supplying the dick, it was like prison rules.
It's kind of like prison rules.
Basically like the whole society was prison.
You know, because if you're the pitcher, you're not really, you know, it's kind of normal.
You know, and that was like one thing that if you look at some of the graffiti when Caesar was taking over power, like some of the graffiti was calling him like the catcher.
Like, Caesar, you catcher.
You know, whatever word that was for that, you know, because that was still a slight.
Like, you were supposed to, at the most virile, if you're head of the Roman legions, you know, you want to be the pitcher.
We still have the echoes of the Puritans that landed here and sort of tried to reestablish what's really similar to a lot of other crazy religious ideologies views on sex, like really rigid, restrictive sex practices.
You know?
And that stuff stuck.
It's hard to shake that shit off.
It's hard to be grown adults, like you are with your friends.
You know?
Like you are with your friends, you talk about sex.
It's just sex.
It's what people do.
You don't say, oh, she wants sex, that dirty, dirty, demon-possessed woman.
You go, yeah, look at her, she's hot.
I bet she wants dick all day.
Hot girls, that's probably what's going on.
You look at Jennifer Lopez's ass, that's the ass of a woman that probably enjoys a dick, right?
But somewhere along the line, people decide to restrict it, and they really clamp down on it.
And I think it was during the hard times.
And I think...
There's just so much, there's so much to the restriction on sex that I think also has to do with our worrying about people not being able to handle hard times if they come again.
Like there's a lot of people I think in this world, whether they're preppers, whether they're people that are just concerned about the future of the world, they're really worried that people are losing, and ironically, it's funny because the people that would be more restrictive when it comes to sex are usually the right-wingers, but the right-wingers are least concerned about environmental damage.
They're more concerned about Fiscal profits like currently and then the left wing Would be much more concerned with environmental but much less restrictive when it comes to sexuality Like the the idea that you could just run around having sex with whoever you want and just Experiencing pleasure and not committing to people and having a good time and smoking a little pot and drinking and dancing and just enjoying life That's not good for commerce, right?
That's not good for business.
That's not good and so If you want people to embrace the same sort of level of materialism that you're gonna need to make your bottom line go up every year, you gotta stop these fucking hippies and their goddamn fucking dance out in the desert.
You know, like, you just can't go around killing people.
I don't care how much you pay.
You can't go kill people.
That's not what we do, okay?
We're civilized.
But you could just go...
Get some coke, go to a bar, start doing shots with people.
Next thing you know, you're banging people.
You barely even know them, right?
If you're some fucking wild person, you could just, if you're a girl especially, god damn, you could travel from place to place and give it away and just get dick anywhere you want, right?
Well, that is okay.
But if you go there and you actually exchange pieces of paper or coins, that's not good.
You know, I mean, you think about the difference between the 50s and the 60s.
Think about, like, the people in the 50s were, like, locked down, watching Hawaii Five-0 and shit.
Well, actually, that was probably the 60s.
Dragnet, that's what I was trying to think of.
Did you ever see the Dragnet thing, where Dragnet guy, Joe Friday, was talking to some fucking hippie, some goddamn hippie, and he's explaining to the hippie, How easy they have it and how lucky they should feel living in America today with all the people that have sacrificed so much to allow them to dress like silly people.
And it's so hilarious because it sounds like a person to...
This is it.
Like, listen to this.
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Fat and selfish, and you're the first generation to come along that's felt dissatisfied.
They all have, you know, about different things, and most of them didn't have the same opportunity and freedoms that you do.
Let's talk poverty.
Most places in the world, that's not a problem.
It's a way of life.
And rights, they're liable to give you a blank stare because they may not know what you're talking about.
The fact is, more people are living better right here than anywhere else ever before in history.
So don't expect us to roll over and play dead when you say you're dissatisfied.
It's not perfect, but it's a great deal better than when we grew up.
A hundred men standing on the street hoping for one job.
I think the lines are being blurred, though, between really hardcore, no-nonsense people, like a Joe Friday-type character.
The hippies those lines are getting like there's a lot of people that like go in weird Slots like how that guy get in that.
Oh, he's in a weird spot like he's kind of both of those things There's a lot of those people now that you can't really lock them down You can't say this is a right-wing person or a left-wing person.
There's a no-nonsense Discipline get-to-work person and this is a pothead and this is a guy likes to do mushrooms And this is a guy who gets up in the morning and runs.
They might be the same dude now There's a lot of crossover between people who are very disciplined, hard workers, but also experience pleasure and also understand that we are a temporary life form hurling through infinity.
Wake the fuck up and just have fun and enjoy this, because this is madness.
And it could very well be over at the blink of an eye.
A fucking giant rock the size of Pittsburgh can come flying out of the north and no one catches it until it's too late and it slams into the fucking polar ice cap and we're diggity diggity done.
The only thing that's keeping us from engaging in all of these other forms we want to is this clinging to identity in these fear programs.
We ditch all that, then you just get wide open for everything else.
And it's not a new idea, like the idea of the warrior poet, the idea back then of someone who could go to battle, and like Musashi, who could...
Be the best swordsman and also be the best calligrapher and also a writer and also meditate and also, you know, have affairs and also do whatever, like passionate love affair, all of the things.
Like, at a certain point, people realize like, oh yeah, all the things is best.
And then at a certain point now in our culture, or at least getting to here, it was like you have to identify with this one thing.
When I was I think I was In my teens when I read the book of five rings the first time What I realized is he was explaining this concept that was totally alien to me at the time as like an insecure teenager He was explaining this concept of To be balanced at anything, to be at your best at anything, you have to have no loose ends.
You have to be loving, you have to be kind, you have to be an artist, you have to be creative, but you also have to be ruthless with your sword technique, and you have to be ruthless with your psychology and how you engage with your enemy.
I mean, he was a fascinating, fascinating guy.
He got bored fighting people with swords, so he started using ores.
From boats.
He started fucking people up with oars.
He's like, I'm just tired of fucking these bitches up with swords.
He killed 62 people in one-on-one combat with weapons.
Whoa!
And along the way, he developed this really intense, very rigid sort of guideline for maintaining the ultimate warrior spirit.
And that was a balanced perspective.
It was really weird.
Because I remember reading about that at the time.
I thought you just had to be a killer, man.
I thought you had to be like Roberto Duran when he was young.
You had to be just a savage.
That was the only way to be a good fighter.
You had to be a savage.
You had to be just someone who just came in just guns blazed and didn't give a fuck like Mike Tyson in the early days.
That was the only way to be successful.
That's what I thought.
And what he was saying is, no, you have to be a master of yourself.
A master of all aspects of yourself.
And there's no more terrifying form of combat than one-on-one with a fucking sword.
I mean, he was the master.
He was the guy that figured it out in a very strange time in Japanese history where he was a ronin just traveling around fucking killing people.
I think some of these times, when you look back, some of the philosophies that developed are even more advanced than ours because when you have a strong external pressure, like the likelihood of a sword battle to the death, that forms this point of resistance where you've got to cut out a lot of the bullshit.
That's what some people in crazy relationships do.
They start fights.
They build up.
Challenging emotional situations so they can escape them.
They make their own obstacle course to get through life.
No, you're totally right, man.
I think we're just experiencing like the safest time ever, you know, and we're sort of trying to find demons that don't exist instead of concentrating on the ones that do.
And that's to me, I think, you know, I mentioned a couple times that do, you know, if you're interested and want to tell that story, but about the time I did ayahuasca, because these plant medicines are that form of resistance.
It is a bit of a trial by fire.
You know, it's going to, you're going to confront yourself With some of the darkest, deepest fears and concerns that you have.
And that's the process by which it makes you better.
It's not a magic potion.
It's just like, here's resistance.
How are you going to respond?
And when you respond through that, you just get better from it.
I wonder with California, With this latest recreational marijuana law passed, I wonder how long it'll be before someone tries to do some sort of a psychedelic clinic, whether it's for addiction to opiates, like an iboga, ibogaine clinic, or this kratom stuff, you know this shit?
What do you think about this?
Because I did a podcast with Chris Bell the other day.
The only thing I found disturbing is that I was getting a bunch of text messages from people, or tweets rather, from people that were telling me that they had some addictive experiences with it.
That it was very addictive to them.
So I don't know if that's true or not.
I also don't know where you're getting it and what's in it.
You know, I don't...
I don't exactly know how pure this stuff is.
This is a retail version of it.
The guy who sells it came with Chris.
I trust that.
But if you're buying it from a dealer, which is essentially what a lot of people had to do for a long time, I'm not exactly sure what you're getting.
Once you open the doors to that scientific method with these plants...
You find amazing results, and I think that's what we're seeing in this revolution of understanding of psychedelics.
Like, I just read and tweeted about a study on both psilocybin and MDMA for, like, social angst and social anxiety, you know, which are one of the things, like, you think of the classic school shooter syndrome, you know, it's this feeling of being excluded from your tribe, excluded from the social situation and the angst and anxiety and all of the medications that are prescribed for these different feelings of feeling like you're not part of the group.
Well, they wanted to test that.
With both MDMA and with psilocybin.
And they found that it was effective with both, but differently.
So they created this game called Cyberball, right?
Where they had what seemed like just random other test subjects all in a circle with a ball.
But really it was researchers and then one test subject.
And so to create social anxiety, they would play this game of catch and just not pass the ball hardly ever to the test subject.
So we'd feel eventually like, man, what the fuck?
Why aren't these people passing me the ball?
Like, what's wrong with me?
And so they tapped into some, and they would test that at baseline as placebo, right?
The angst and the kind of concern of like, man, what's wrong with me?
Why do these people not want to give you the ball?
And then they tested a baseline for placebo, gave them whatever placebo they were using.
And then they tested it with psilocybin.
And what they found with psilocybin was that it dramatically reduced their amount of anxiety, their angst, their stress about not giving the ball.
They were just looking at them like, man, look at these people.
They just don't want to pass me the ball.
That's cool.
But they could accurately tell.
Now, MDMA also reduced the social anxiety, but in a different way.
The people who are on MDMA thought they were getting the ball all the time.
Like they had no idea that they weren't getting the ball.
They're like, oh man, I got passed through all the time.
Yeah, I mean, MDMA is, you know, like a more pharmaceutical approach to elevating serotonin and that feeling that is associated with serotonin in your body, whereas, you know, the mescaline-derived psychedelics I think that's great for a situation like MAPS is testing with PTSD and certain other kinds of situations because it's very reproducible.
It's very like clinical reaction of what's going to happen in the brain.
Whereas something like Wachuma It gives you this overwhelming experience, but it's woven in with all kinds of other different things.
And also, it kind of gives your brain a chance to almost detach, like a lens that detaches from the camera, get a look at the inner workings of the thing, and then before you put it back on, you kind of get a better understanding of it.
There's a detachment that MDMA has from some of the nonsense you've carried around with you, like clothes, that you've just worn it your whole life.
You don't realize it's bullshit until you take something that makes you go, like, this is all so ridiculous.
Well, what I think, you know, talking to the psychologists and psychiatrists of why it's so beneficial is we all carry a lot of trauma.
We all carry these things from our past that are these stories.
And I think that was another thing.
I keep talking about the Jordan Peterson podcast, but he talked about that self-authoring program, which is rewriting these stories.
Well, he was talking about actually writing it.
But what MDMA is doing for people with PTSD and with anybody is it's going back and looking at all of these traumatic things in our history, in our past, which is also one of the things that in the studies that they're showing, they have a psychologist, psychiatrist, who's guiding people back to these potential traumatic events.
But when you're flooded with serotonin, you see things in a totally different perspective.
You see things from the vantage point of love and it's all good.
So no matter what, you know, situation came about, you'll see that kind of higher perspective rather than that fear response, that kind of cringing that creates more fear and more trauma.
You look at it and you're able to relax, see it and say, man, that was pretty horrible.
But you know what?
It's okay.
I'm still okay.
I still have these bright things.
And you re-pattern that traumatic experience.
So when you go to draw that back up from your past, you're drawing up a different recategorized experience.
You're rewriting the software that's always rewritable, like those rewritable floppy disks.
You take that thing out, you rewrite it with a whole different hue of your neurochemicals and the feelings that are surrounding it.
And then when you access it again, or when it's just carrying around in your We're good to go.
Well, hey, that's actually what made you so ambitious and so strong.
And this traumatic thing that you thought was so horrible, it actually brought out all these other benefits.
And it was actually, you know, if you really see from the person who, the perpetrator's perspective, you know, look at all the sadness that created that.
Look at where he was coming from.
So you re-pattern that traumatic event, and then it's not carrying that same dramatic, terrible weight, that lifeless body that you're trying to carry around.
There's also the perspective that who you are, like as a person right now, is an accumulative effect of all your experiences.
That's what makes you who you are.
Well, if you have some mind-blowing experience, which is what a psychedelic experience is, you're gonna change.
You're gonna be a different person.
I mean it might be a Microscopic shift of the dial like if you had a safe and you were click click click click It might be like one click click like after a psychedelic experience and then you might have another psychedelic experience You might get a double click click click, you know, but it's very small movements, right?
But ultimately you're a different person.
So if it's a small movement that New experience has given you a chance to sort of mock the things that were threatening you just momentarily.
We gotta get the new president to do DMT. If we got him to do DMT, it would change so much.
Or just a little dose of mushrooms, bro.
You don't even have to get crazy.
Take a gram and a half.
Just a gram and a half for a little reset.
Just a little reset.
Just a little sit back and a little, wow, what are we doing here?
What are we doing here?
Exactly!
What are we doing here?
I just think...
This is a unique and special time.
And as long as we can be aware, and as long as we verbalize that, we say it all the time, this is a unique and special time.
Let's capitalize on this unique and special time.
Let's use this unique and special time to establish a new understanding for this generation and to set things up way better for the next generation.
Dude, my parents, I'm older than you, my parents were essentially raised by barbarians.
They came over on a fucking boat.
They had no idea what was over here.
You know, their parents did it, really.
My grandparents' parents did it.
They came over from Italy and from Ireland.
They were savages, man.
They were hardly different from the people that came over on the boats during the pilgrim days.
They were barbarians.
They just had a little bit more culture, a little bit more language, a little bit more this.
They beat the shit out of their wives.
They were always drunk.
They were monsters, a lot of them.
They're just crazy people scratching and clawing.
Their understanding of life during the Ed Sullivan Show, their understanding of what the world was really all about, is so far removed from the average 20-year-old with an internet account who can go on YouTube.
As long as he stays away from those Flat Earth videos, he's gonna have a real good understanding of how this motherfucker works, and a way better understanding than any grown adult with children did in the 1950s, when my parents were kids.
There's no fucking way!
You can't compete!
So I think that we have this unique opportunity to set up the future of society where all of this silliness that we still have to deal with, like the WikiLeaks email that came out about Hillary Clinton that said that she opposes marijuana, quote, in every sense of the word.
You can't do that anymore.
You can't do that anymore.
That, to me, that people were still willing to support that, like, this is better than him, he grabs pussies.
Are you sure it's better?
Because I don't know if it's better.
I think the whole thing's a mess.
You can't have people stopping pot and go, oh, it's all about the pot with you.
It's all about freedom.
And anybody that wants to stop pot, they can stop sex.
They can stop whatever the fuck you want to do that they decide they can profit off of you not doing that.
Look how many people were burned for their sexual practices at the stake, literally.
Like, you can ban absolutely everything.
There's laws on the books that are throwing people in jail for homosexuality that'll flare up still now.
Like, in different places of the world where they'll kill people for sex.
So, it's not that that hasn't even been tried.
The ability, the monstrous nature of humans to be able to impose those restrictions on people, the sovereignty of their own consciousness and their own body.
You can only ejaculate this way.
You can only expand your consciousness in these manners.
Well, the one dude who took the photo from heaven, he's got a lock.
Yeah, he is.
He's got a photo.
There was a story that was out just a couple days ago about some woman in Indonesia that received 100 lashes for being around a man, being too close to a man.
There was a bunch of people that were publicly flogged for sex crimes, but there were sex crimes as innocuous as a woman was too close to a man.
Like, they gave her like 90 lashes or some crazy shit.
That dude looks just like It's like the male dudes in that fucking sex BDSM dungeon porn from San Francisco where they took that old prison out and they all fucking dressed like that and locking people up.
Okay, a man found guilty of sex outside the marriage was also flogged at least 22 times by the person delivering the punishment who was dressed in long robes and a hood.
His partner, who is two months pregnant, is still waiting for her fate to be decided.
Wow, she's pregnant and they're going to decide her fate.
Whoa.
In such situations, officials in the province usually order the flogging of the woman after they give birth.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
That's Indonesia in 2016. That is...
Holy shit, that's scary.
That is just what happens when people decide what the rules are.
Like the absolute antithesis of the Jesus message when you really look at it mystically, like from the metaphysical truths of what he's espousing.
And then somehow they go from that to that.
And I think it's again, it's like that incremental creep.
Towards a little bit harsher punishments, a little bit more sadistic.
And you get more and more and more, and you start feeding that urge for sadism, that urge to not only punish somebody, but to do it in the most horrifying way.
If you haven't heard about that, folks, look it up.
It's a really interesting story.
They had these students, and these college students at Stanford, they put them through this experiment where some of them were guards and some of them were prisoners, and the guards almost immediately started abusing the prisoners.
Yeah, and I think, you know, the problem is that we all try to bury these thoughts, these darker thoughts that we have.
You know, like all of us inside of us, you look at times of war and, you know, whole armies that would go, part of why they would go on these contrasts was for rape.
We all think of ourselves as men now.
Like, man, I would never be capable of doing anything, hurting anybody else.
But inside our genetics, inside the things that was passed along our lineage, were warrior cultures that probably produced our fucking ancestors through rape.
That's part of every individual, these dark thoughts.
It feels somehow good to hurt somebody else.
And the fact that we deny those entirely, they become monsters.
Whereas if you just acknowledge and like...
Look at them and say, man, I'm all the bad stuff.
I'm all the good stuff.
It's all good.
What am I going to choose to do?
You know, what do I want to put out in the world?
And I think that's a really important, important facet to recognize that, you know, we're all we're all fucked up, you know, but it's our choice that decides, you know, who we really are and what we want to bring into the world.
Are we going to make this amazing video game a better place, a better game?
Are we going to make it miserable for everybody we encounter?
You could probably look at like Steve, someone like Steven Kotler can probably tell you more about the, you know, the adrenaline and neurochemical response that's creating this version of yourself that's like supercharged on these certain things.
So your empathy, you know, your empathy ratings go way down.
It's like you're looking at the Westworld control board, right?
And it's like empathy ratings way down, aggression way up, like all of these different neurochemicals that are changing, like literally changing yourself.
Into something that is much more favorable for those actions, right?
You know, yeah, but it creates a collective mindset It's like the individual because like what's one of the things you hear all the time about war is the really noble heroic warriors who sacrifice themselves to save others like it's one of the main Themes that we love hearing about like the guy who dives on the grenade to save his people to save the guys who are around him like that is something that happens in that crazy That crazy environment of that intensity of life.
It's one of the weirder things about it, man, is how many people who go through that say it was the best time of their life and they'd love to go back.
That's probably why he actually started having to fight with oars, because at a certain point with the sword, he probably wasn't even getting the same feeling anymore.
It probably didn't even feel like a sword battle.
It was like a sparring match when you know you're going 20% and you're all relaxed and shit, rather than when you're just knowing, like, all right, these people are coming for me.
It's a different kind of mental state that you get in.
And maybe, you know, the or thing was like, all right, I'm just not feeling it.
Imagine going back to a primitive, more tribal culture and explaining how much value you could get for something silly like that.
There was this watch and I could buy houses and control vast lands and get unlimited food and make people of all varieties do all the things I wanted just from this one little token.
And they'd be like, what does it do?
And you're like, nothing.
It does nothing.
But it's valuable.
They would be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
It's not a better arrow.
It's one of these things that comes up when you get a society of luxury like we have.
Doesn't let you get to feel better about yourself.
So that, you know, I think when you really don't know...
Again, going back, you don't know the self.
You want to feel better about yourself by making yourself better than somebody else.
Because you have no other reference point of what it is.
So, alright, if I'm better than these other people...
Whether it's something you have or something you are inherently or the melanin in your skin or whatever the fuck you want to say, if that makes you better than someone else, then you can feel better about yourself.
Well, I don't know who I am.
I don't know if I'm good or bad, but at least I'm better than these fucks.
And then that makes you feel better.
But it's all this fucking bullshit game that we try to tell ourselves that comes from the fundamental lack of knowing who we are and knowing that whoever we are is enough and it's all good and we're all the same.
You say that, but Boris, the guy with that fucking transformer on his wrist who's getting his dick sucked right now while drinking vodka flying in his private jet over the Atlantic, he disagrees with you.
That girl knows that that's a $250 million watch or whatever the fuck he's wearing.
She knows he's balling out of control on his private jet.
Just unbelievable footwork and ability to predict where the punches are coming from his opponent, where he's going to have openings.
And he was just lighting this dude up in the last round.
And at the end of the last round, the dude just quit.
He just quit.
He quit in the seventh round.
Just said, I'm done.
Like, he didn't get knocked down.
He didn't get, like, he got staggered in the sixth round.
Or in the seventh round, he got staggered.
But it wasn't to the point where you thought they would end the fight, because he ended the round on his feet, went back to his corner, walked, sat down, was like, fuck this.
So it's over.
And then, you know, in his post-fight speech, he's just basically saying, look, the guy was hitting me too much.
Vanderlei came out and blasted him with the right hand, had him hurt, but he fell into the trap because Lieben punches so fucking hard and he always had an iron chin and he just uncorked one on Vanderlei and Vanderlei went, uh-oh.
Dropped one on Brunson and then had Brunson crazy hurt and then moved in on him.
It was an awesome exhibition for Whitaker to show that Whitaker can overcome the storm of a super confident, really dangerous guy who hits fucking hard, who's had a lot of confidence because of his most recent success doing that.
I mean, Brunson came after him.
Really, really came after him.
Super aggressive.
Maybe too aggressive, for sure.
Now, in hindsight, you could say that.
But a lot of people, other than Whitaker, probably would have wilted to that storm.
So it's interesting.
It was a really stern test for Whitaker, and it showed you how strong he is.
You have to realize while you're watching it that, like life, nobody gets out for free.
Like life.
I mean, it's almost a microcosm of life.
It's crazy struggle and it, you know, it doesn't always end your way.
What competition is in mixed martial arts is the most extreme version of problem-solving we have outside of war.
It's the most extreme with dire physical consequences.
You get brained like we saw Pat Berry get KO'd there.
You know, I mean, that's the consequences of this game.
But the The reality, or the take is, nobody gets out anyway alive.
If you choose to experience this, this extremely high level for a very short burst, understand how much resources you're burning off, understand what you're doing, and proceed wisely.
When I talk to fighters who, you know, sometimes question like, man, what am I doing to myself?
I'm just beating people up and that's what I do.
You know, to remind them that what really is happening is two people are coming to an agreement to provide a form of resistance for each other.
Like at the highest level of what this is, like you're going to come face to face with someone who's also training and also striving to do everything that you're trying to do, which is what's going to push you up against that form of resistance and give you an opportunity Not only to overcome physically, but overcome emotionally, spiritually, psychically.
You'll have to bring everything to bear against that form of resistance, whether it's the weight cut or the opponent or the training or everything.
And there's something to be said for that.
Obviously, the only issue for a lot of people is that you end up paying that price not only then, but later, if you get the brain damage.
And that's the only bummer of it and something that To be considered, but if it wasn't for that man, what a fucking beautiful way to do it like to get everything Everything all together unified in one and provide that ultimate form of resistance is like unbeatable It's definitely the most difficult physical challenge that we know because you're competing Especially at the highest level you're competing with someone who's the same size as you Has a commensurate level of expertise as you and is
Pull up the recent photos of Botter Hari, because he put some photos on Instagram of him training, and he took pictures of him with his shirt off, and you're like, what?
Jesus Christ, he looks like he's about 250 now, something like that, and he's a big giant dude.
He's always been a big giant dude, but he's like super, super muscled out now.
Look at this shit.
He's fucking jacked, dude!
He's fucking jacked!
There's some other photos that are maybe a little bit clearer.
That's why I think when I think about this time, I think it's the best time ever because we get to see all of these incredible contests still extremely physical.
Like we're still at the rising peak of our physical prowess, but we're also at the peak of our technological prowess and the peak of our ability to access all of the best foods and access the best ideas and all of the different things that can shape us.
Like as pessimistic as people get, it is for sure the best of times.
Right now, you know, for the majority of people.
Now, obviously, there are hells on the planet still.
There's hells that we can put ourselves in.
There's suffering.
But overall, on the macro level, it's the golden age now.
And even in the future, like I can't imagine that the...
I guess maybe it would.
Like maybe we've just seen too many gray aliens, you know, where the body kind of becomes less and less important and everything is focused on the consciousness.
I feel like you get to that level and you fucking miss this certain...
You know, evolution and epoch for the pleasure monkey where we had all of that physical access to strive and train and feel all of the physical things as well as, you know, reach incredible heights in consciousness and meditation and, you know, community and these great things.
I think, you know, I think really no matter what stage before or after, I think we'll look back at this one like this was a special fucking time.
If you've watched those shows from Alaska where the people grow their own vegetables and shit and they catch fish in the river, there's something romantic about it, right?
Yeah, and especially if you don't have any internet.
Before they got on television, I wonder how much access to internet they even had up there.
Watch this one family that apparently, you know that singer Jewel?
Do you know who she is?
She has one snaggletooth, but she's very beautiful.
People like the fact that she doesn't fix her teeth because she's imperfect yet perfect.
She's apparently from this one family that has this show.
Goddammit, Alaska, the final frontier?
Is that the name of it?
But anyway, it's her relatives.
I feel like close relatives that live up there in this crazy way.
And it's real simple.
Some of them farm, and they raise cattle, and they have to move their cattle across this area to take them to where they graze, and they drop them off, and they have to move them back at the end of the year.
It's nuts.
And so while they're up there doing this, grizzly bears just start ripping their fucking cows apart.
So now they have to go and deal with these, you know, 11 foot tall giant dog things that need food constantly to consume.
And on one hand, you can't blame them.
Like these fat, stupid cows just wandering around over by the grass.
All they have to do is go by the grass.
There's fucking hundreds of them.
Where else are they going to find hundreds of things that they can eat?
Nowhere!
Like, you just put out a buffet in front of the grizzly bear, and you're mad that they're eating.
It's crazy watching this guy, because although it is reality TV, and you do not know how much of this show is bullshit, because clearly some of it's bullshit.
There's clearly some setup.
Like, I saw one scene where...
They had a filleted salmon, and the bear was supposedly getting fish from the river, and it was coming too close to them while they were fishing, but you never saw the two of them in the same frame.
And then you see the bear, and the bear has a salmon that's filleted.
Meaning, like, someone cut that salmon, threw it in the water, and gave it to the fucking bear.
Which is like, come on, stupid.
You know, so you guys are the only people here, but yet the bear, you haven't caught a fish yet, but the bear is a fish that has fillets removed off of it.
Or I think we played that country song where it's like I flash my headlights at her window and you can get all fucking crazy in your head about it and just be like, oh, the pleasure monkey's getting pleasure.
And it's not even like the body, it's like the soul.
No, it's not going to work.
She's thinking of The Rock and this giant Samoan dick just ramming it home.
That's what she wants, okay?
You've got to accept that, and you're going to have to enjoy another aspect of life other than having sex with this one person who's now having sex with The Rock.
I've come to look at ourselves like a software operating system that can constantly get rewritten a little bit, even by the people that you're around.
You want to look from the point of mirror neurons.
Actually experiencing the same emotional state that the person you're around and or if it's just ideas or thoughts or whatever you want to, however you want to look at it.
It's like adding a little bit of code to our code base and sometimes it's helpful and sometimes it's a virus.
But the more you surround yourself with people with that kind of positive vibe, it's like building on the software in a positive way around these, you know, more negative people.
They're implanting different little, you know, bugs and viruses that you're going to have to scan and remove later.
Put yourself in situations where you're adding to that positive code base, the books you're reading, the things you're listening to.
And be careful of the things on TV, too, that are adding to creating more of the viruses, supporting these negative thought patterns, these limiting beliefs, these things that are not helpful for the code base.
But I think people have to experience a certain amount of difficulty in their life just to exercise their system.
I think our system is put in place to have a certain amount of obstacles to overcome.
And when we don't have any, or when it's like really simple stuff that's fucking boring, you know?
I think people have real problems with that.
I think we have real problems with our minds, real problems physically with our entire unit.
I think we absolutely need a certain amount of exertion.
100%.
I mean, it might not even be physical.
Like, my friend Jerron, Jerron Horton, I went to Colorado with him.
We did a gig out there.
He just got into chess.
Just a madman with chess now.
Playing on his phone constantly, moving things around.
And he's like, you want to play?
I'm like, fuck that.
I'm not getting sucked into that goddamn rabbit hole.
I see him there, on the plane.
Can't wait to play chess.
As soon as we're off in the sky, he's all fucking with his phone and shit.
That is another discipline.
I mean, they're all disciplines.
They're all these different things that you try to seek truth through.
I mean, chess is a form of combat.
You know, it's just not painful.
But it's most certainly...
Yeah, it's a form of combat.
It's absolutely a form...
It's a contest.
You know, if you treat it as a war, I mean, that is essentially what you're doing.
You're breaking it down to a very innocuous, very safe, but...
Very obvious what's going on.
I'm testing my intellect against your intellect, and we're going to do so through a very established series of movements that these things are allowed to participate in.
We have an established playing field.
You know the rules.
I know the rules.
I think I'm smarter than you.
Go.
And you have that little clock thing that those dudes have.
Those dudes, they fuck with you, so they move it quick, and then they hit that fucking clock.
It's not mutually exclusive to the self-love aspect.
You can still find your mountain without thinking you're a piece of shit when you stumble because everybody fucking stumbles.
It doesn't mean you're It doesn't mean that you should hate yourself.
It doesn't mean that you should isolate yourself from the love of the world because you feel you're not worthy of it and just create these negative patterns.
Like, yes, go out, fucking find your mountain.
But when you stumble, like everybody fucking does, understand that that's just life.
Because he's so conditioned to being punched, he's so used to it that he can keep his eyes open as the punches are coming in and then counter perfectly.
You're not going to have that kind of resolve with a deer.
Like, police officers and military, they train yourself past the freeze.
But it's funny, like, I was in Australia, and this dude was drinking Bundaberg overproof rum, and he was used to doing this trick with regular Bundaberg rum, which is Bundaberg rum, where he lights it on fire and pours it in his mouth, and it goes out when it hits his mouth.
But he was doing it instead with overproof rum, right, which he'd never done before.
Well, the thing with Overproof Home is that motherfucker doesn't go out ever, period.
Like, the wind is not gonna get it out.
So he's pouring this flaming shot and it doesn't go out.
So they were coming out of a club, and it was actually a club that we used to go to a lot.
I just happened to be out of town that weekend.
But we're coming out of the club, and this girl, like, he gets, the guy gets in, like, a fight with one of, like, her boyfriends or whatever, and then she's, like...
And I think sometimes people that have overcome brutality when they're younger, they develop this ability to understand, like, oh, I've been here before.
I know what this is all about.
I know what this kind of chaos is.
There's only one way out of this thing.
You've got to meet it head-on.
Whereas someone who's coddled, who grows up in a cushioned room, everything's dull, there's no sharp edges, that person, when confronted with some horrific situation, like some giant steroided-up football player, punches a girl in the back of the head, and you've got to act, and that guy's 100 pounds bigger than you, and Roger just takes his shirt off.
I really wish that he didn't have that falling out with the UFC. People forget that Roger Huerta was the first guy to ever be on the cover of Sports Illustrated for MMA. He was on the fucking cover of Sports Illustrated.
He was being groomed as one of the top guys.
But there was some sort of dispute between him and the UFC. Who knows which side is correct?
Who knows what happened?
But he wound up leaving the UFC and then, you know...
So for Lima to beat him, and to beat Benson Henderson, who's relatively undersized for the division, and then to knock out Koreshkov like that, I mean, that was stunning shit.
I think he's world class.
Meanwhile, that guy was ragdolled by Ben Askren, who's the 1FC champ.
It's one of my most perplexing puzzles in MMA. But when he fought in Bellator, when Jay Heron went over there, Jay Heron gave him a hell of a fight.
And Jay Heron, who was a very good fighter, who didn't do so good in the UFC, but was really talented, And then went over and had this fight with Askren and Bellator.
I mean, Jay Haran was, you know, a good wrestler with a little bit better crisper striking than Askren and managed to keep it on the feet a lot.
And Askren had a real problem with that.
So that was one of those things where I was like, man, I want to see him against world-class fighters who know how to stuff that takedown.
Against a real good wrestler who knows how to stuff the takedown.
Who's his size?
But Michael Chandler just beat Benson Henderson, too.
And the bigger that personality, the more it's a celebrity, the more interested you are in the fight.
You get to understand this character that Conor McGregor is, and it's part of the compelling nature of watching the fight.
The personality, people want to identify with it.
I think it's the difference between a good epic movie and a shitty epic movie.
A good epic movie, you fall in love with the characters before the fucked up stuff happens that propels them on their hero's journey.
You can't just go straight out of the gate and show that whole backstory happened and then he's all of a sudden kicking ass.
You want to be emotionally invested and then every time they're swinging a You know, swinging a sword or every time you're watching them punch and take down, you're way more invested.
And I think boxing did that with 24-7.
The UFC's done that with all their embedded.
And I think that's just something that they do better than anybody else.
They get you emotionally invested into the fighter.
And then when you're there, you know, that's when you really want to watch.
There's also those epic personalities, those mega personalities that come around every few generations, or once a generation, or a couple times a generation, I should probably say.
Like the Tysons, or the Sugar Ray Leonards, or the people that people are just so compelled to watch.
And Conor's just one of those people.
If he was in boxing and having the same sort of success, he would be just as big.
There's so much going on with big gloves versus small gloves.
You see guys that have devoted their whole life to big glove defense and then they come in and the small gloves just don't offer the same sort of protection.
A number, like a venue that is anything even remotely like the venues that used to exist just like 10 years ago as far as like putting a fight on Showtime or putting a fight on HBO or putting a fight on NBC. Seems like 10, 20 years ago you could have put Muay Thai on NBC at 9 o'clock at night at some crazy Muay Thai night and people would have got hooked like, whoa, this is nuts.
But now it seems like there's so many options for entertainment.
Mm-hmm.
It's really difficult to lock in a substantial group of people just by putting something on a certain time of night.
They have so many choices.
There's almost too many choices.
We're almost overrun with possibilities to stare into the looking glass and get enchanted.
I think before that ever happens, before there's a place where you can go and interact with robots, you're going to be one.
I think it's going to be way more likely that you're going to take people that have been injured, like soldiers that have lost a limb in a war, they're going to replace them with better limbs.
Then the first person's going to offer to get their limbs cut off.
It's probably going to be someone with a disease where their limbs don't work so well.
They get them cut off and then they win the Olympics.
They start jumping over buildings and shit.
Next thing you know, everybody's like, why not have these regular legs?
And then one day it's going to get to a point where you can take your whole brain, take that brain, stick it in a fucking other body.
I don't know why you just gotta take it to the next level.
I just feel like we're gonna come to a point where we figure out how to express ourselves outside of language.
This is what I believe.
I believe that the intention, like pure intention, we're gonna be able to broadcast that through some form of third-party software, hardware solution, whatever it is.
Like they'll be able to figure out what the actual intention of a thought is and transmit that.
And so instead of a sentence, it'll be a series of thoughts That you can transfer the intention where you know it without language.
You don't have to have a comprehension of German to be able to communicate with a person from Germany because you'll be able to see whatever they're thinking in pure intent or feel it or know it or whatever the fuck it is.
And the only way you really have a reference is if you've experienced it as well.
You're saying this, and I'm listening to you say this, and I agree with you, and then I'm like, man, how would I describe it any differently to somebody?
And I'm like, well, let's see what we got here for tools.
There's no tools in the toolbox that allow you to explain, like, a really heavy-duty breakthrough DMT trip.
They don't exist.
Like, you can try to approximate it, but you saying it, I register it.
But it's only because I have what I believe to be a similar experience to what you've experienced.
And even that is just guesswork.
You know, I'm assuming you're explaining to me what went down when you had it, and I'm like, well, that sounds a lot like how I would clumsily try to explain my experience.
When you see Burning Man, when you go to a place like Burning Man, you see what's possible.
I mean, obviously I haven't been, but you've been a few times.
When you see what's possible, when these fucking freaks all get together and rewrite the rules and go crazy, it gives you a lot of hope.
It really does, because it makes you realize, like, these are a lot of people with normal people around us, and yet they're choosing in this one moment to behave in this...
Stark contrast to everyday culture in society, but there's no litter.
People are friendly with each other.
They're giving away food.
They're only doing it for short bursts.
They're doing it for a week at a time, once a year.
But they're doing it.
They're still doing it.
And they didn't do it 30 years ago.
They didn't do it 50 years ago.
They're doing it now.
And they're doing it in one spot.
But we're talking about it, and people are starting to get together, and they go, we can do this more often.
Like, we can do something similar to this more often.
I mean, isn't that one of the more genuine problems with any sort of egalitarian or more altruistic vision is that people are not going to reciprocate.
Like, you know, like if you could find a like-minded group of people where instead of the mob mentality of going fucking crazy and grabbing swords and chopping each other up, there's the mob mentality of peace and love.
We're all just sort of, everybody around you sort of adopted this thing in a really radical way.
They're wearing fucking goggles and riding bikes everywhere and everything's lit up with solar power and you're like, whoa, these people are going deep with this.
Like, everybody's embraced this so, they're so all in.
Every fucking chip is on the table when you're out there.
That it reinforces this different and very peculiar sort of mob mentality that's psychedelic-driven and happy.
You know, and that's possible too.
Like, while we're watching mass rape in India, you hear about these horrible instances where these men rape women on trains.
Like, what the fuck is going on over there?
While that's happening...
Burning Man's happening.
It's like there's another sort of mob consciousness that can erupt when it's considered carefully, applied ethically, morally, sensitively, with an open heart.
That can be done, too.
There's a bunch of different states that can be achieved.
A human goes into an environment with love and radical acceptance, true, in the truest sense.
You're going to more adapt to that.
Whereas you get in these systems of fear and control, you know, you're going to adapt to that.
And I think anybody that we encounter, we have that choice of what we're going to give back to them and turn that tide.
And maybe it won't be reciprocated, but it can also stop that trend.
So if someone really, you know, if they do something fucked up, you know, and you can't prevent it and you have to accept it and move on, accept that with love.
Show that person love and not this desire for justice and revenge.
And you'll start to switch the pattern.
That's the only thing that ends the cycle.
The only thing that ends the cycle ultimately is love.
Like violence, you know, you get something violent to you, then you do something violent to them, then you do something violent to you.
And it continues to go until one person just holds like, man, I see your pain.
I see where you're coming from.
I see you as me.
You know, I'm sorry you've been driven to that state.
I'm going to love you no matter what.
And then all of a sudden that person's like, what the fuck?
And then it can end that cycle.
And I think that's what we got to do in society.
That's what we got to do, the right and the left.
Instead of continually shooting these barbs at each other, at some point the conscious people have to say, like, you know, whatever you say, I hear you.
I don't necessarily agree.
Here's my point of view, but I'm going to love you.
I'm going to love you as if you were me.
And then that ultimately ends it.
But as long as we're just lobbing fucking hand grenades at each other, we're fucked up.
Hmm strange times strange times, but beautiful times They're the best times they are and the more we realize they're the best times The more we're gonna be okay like right now.
Yeah, it is entirely possible We might get hit by an asteroid the side of China.
It is entirely possible.
They're out there There's giant chunks of run we the in the world rather was at one point time hit with another planet that's established That's what they believe.
They believe the moon was created when the Earth literally collided with another fucking planet.
It's not happening right now, though.
Right now, just be nice to each other and have some fucking fun.
But, and you know, I maybe I might have known that date in my head.
So I'm not trying to think this is supernatural.
It's all kind of metaphor, but it was very specific.
So by the time we get out there, I knew that I had this feeling like, man, some shit's gonna come up here because that was like, something's in my psyche that's incredibly specific about this.
So we're going into ceremony, and one thing I like to do to prepare for ceremony, and I do this for the whole group, is I do a meditation where it anchors them to their consciousness, and I put that consciousness in their heart, right?
Because the head can get really squirrely, and you can get lost in belief and different ideas and thoughts.
And if you identify yourself as consciousness, which I tell them to symbolize as a brilliant piece of white light in your heart, And you symbolize that and you imagine that there.
And then, you know, I talk to them how when you imagine that there, then you can imagine it actually showing up atomically, like in the rules of quantum physics, the observer effect.
You observe it.
It's connected to yourself, all your cells, connected to all things in space, connected to the one source of consciousness, the collective consciousness, that thing.
And it just kind of anchors you and keeps you in this feeling of safe.
So whatever squirrely thing is happening in your mind, you do that.
But this is important for the story that I'm setting up.
So I do that meditation, and that's where I go into these psychedelic experiences, anchored to my heart, connected to the cosmos, connected to the infinite through that.
And it's a very kind of comforting meditation.
It's a comforting meditation to do.
So I'm going through and I take the medicine and right off the bat, it's like super, you know, it's super chill.
Like I'm seeing beautiful scenes like flowers, these flowers of light.
And I get this message like, hey man, this one's going to be easy.
And I was like, okay, cool.
And it was like, we're just going to fix a few things.
So I felt like what feels like all these little doctors of light, the doctorcitos, you know, these little light beings going through my body and start fixing little different areas, fixing little parts in my head and they're fixing little parts here.
And meanwhile, my mind is being distracted with flowers and butterflies and it's super chill.
The only memorable vision I had was I go to this shrine in this jungle and I see this giant monkey-human hybrid that's super happy.
And it's like, there's just butterflies and everything going around.
And then, inscripted in stone, it says, we are the pleasure monkeys.
And that's what I've been using that word today.
And it's this, like, really cool thing.
Like, oh yeah, we are pleasure monkeys.
We're here to enjoy all of the best shit that we can.
And I start thinking about, you know, the foods and the people and the camaraderie and everything around me.
Super positive.
Meanwhile, the light's going through my body and fixing it.
And then, you know, as this really idyllic thing, and I think, we're an hour and a half in, I'm like, fucking, we're good.
Like, whatever this demon was, not gonna worry about it, it's fine.
And then right to my left, I see this gnarly-looking Gollum, Lord of the Rings-looking, fucking my precious Nosferatu demon guy.
And he looks at me and I was like, you know, one of the practices that I have is anchoring to that point in my heart.
You know, I encourage the feeling of invincibility, like it can't be harmed.
You know, this is your consciousness.
It's this peace in your heart.
It can't be harmed.
And I see this demon.
And it looks at me, and then it jumps towards me, and it starts biting my neck in my vision, right?
So this gnarly-looking demon is biting my neck in my vision.
So at this point, you know, I know it's eating in my, you know, in that vision.
It's eating through my neck.
And I see what its aim is.
And it's aiming to eat through my neck and eat that thing in my heart.
The white light in my heart that I've been meditating about.
Like, that's what it wants.
So in what I thought was this, like, heroic act of invincibility, I was like, go ahead, man.
You want that thing?
Go ahead.
Eat all the way through me.
Get that thing.
It's fine.
Because I've learned in a lot of these practices, the more you resist these things, the more aggressive they become and the harder you just get in this dance.
So the more you surrender, generally, the better off you are.
So it's like, oh, you want to eat that thing?
Go for it.
So it goes through, eats through my neck, through my chest, and it grabs a hold of that piece of white light in my heart.
Snatches it.
And right at that moment, I've never felt more fear.
I feel like I got shot with a bullet.
Like, I felt like I went dead.
Completely dead.
And fear just shot through my entire body.
And I was like, oh, fuck.
I just gave this demon my consciousness.
I just gave this demon my soul.
And I let him have it.
It's like all the fucking vampire movies.
Like, they can't come in unless you give them permission.
Then you give them permission.
And all of these fucking thoughts are going through my head.
Meanwhile, I felt completely dead.
Like, hollow from the inside.
Fear.
Was that like a thousand percent?
And then the Icaros of the shamans start getting more intense.
And I'm like, holy shit, I'm fucked.
So I start negotiating with this Nosferatu demon guy.
And I was like, man, I'd really like to get my peace back.
Like, you mind giving it back?
Like, you know, it's all good.
I understand you have your place, you know, for polarity to exist.
There needs to be the dark.
There needs to be the light.
You know, it's all good, man.
We're all on the same team.
Ultimately, we're all, you know, consciousness in the cosmos.
He's having none of it.
Right.
And then finally, he's like talking to you.
Yeah, he's sometimes talking back and sometimes just kind of like mocking me, really, like kind of laughing.
And then he goes, here you go.
And he gives me something.
And I greedily, like a hungry child, like grab it and I stuff it in my heart.
And it was this dead piece of rock, like a dead stone.
And it's just this demon just laughing at me.
I have your heart.
And watch where I'm going.
And he goes and he takes it.
And I'm following him through this kind of like wormhole thing.
And he takes it.
And I see who he's giving it to.
And then I go, oh fuck.
Because he's giving it to the demon of all demons.
And this is very archetypal and I'm not religious, but these archetypes are coming through in this kind of, you know, demon type of sense.
But anyways, this demon that he gives it to, I can only call the world crusher.
Because literally he's of the size where I'm seeing him hold planets and crushing them into dust in his hands.
And he's just moving the cosmos, these giant horns made of this deep, dark black and red smoke and just laughing in the ecstasy of destruction as he takes galaxies and he rips them apart.
Like the ultimate black hole of destruction and evil.
And I go, fuck.
Like that guy's got my heart piece now.
Like the little demon gave it to that thing.
So I'm thinking like, what the fuck do I do?
I can't even communicate with this demon world crusher.
Like there's no way, there's no way I can even talk to him.
He's too big.
So I try to like, well, maybe I can blow myself up.
You know, like maybe I can get bigger.
Thinking like video game style, like that's gonna work.
Like maybe if I fucking get bigger, then we can talk and negotiate and I'll be on his level.
Totally doesn't work.
I can't get even near the size of him in my vision.
So I'm like, fuck, what the fuck do I do?
What am I going to fucking do here?
And I get the idea.
I was like, man, I can't fight this thing.
There's no way.
But understanding that, again, that consciousness and the cosmos needs dark and light, I understand the value of the polarity of something that dark.
I understand that that's necessary.
It's like, man, I've got to send this thing love.
So I go and I imagine floating up to its head and right between its eyes.
I kissed him on the forehead.
And I know it sounds weird.
And for a moment, I see his eyes go googly eyes, like the emoji heart thing, where hearts appear in the world crusher's eyes.
And it was really kind of cartoony.
And for that moment, he relinquishes and he's like...
I can give this back to you, but we never took it.
No one can take that piece of your heart.
It's yours.
It's impossible to steal unless you believe it can steal.
And it was this beautiful wisdom.
And I was like, oh my God, thank God.
But I was still shaken up by that.
I was still kind of fucked up.
But that move worked.
And in that moment where his eyes were all googly hearts, he's like, man, we can't take that from you.
That's yours.
So I had this Renewed sense of confidence.
And so I started kind of going.
It was kind of more peaceful then.
Ikaros seemed to be following my trip, died down.
I'm going through about all the relations in my life and the different, you know, kind of doing the general work you do on ayahuasca.
And I get to a member of my family who's really, you know, suffering from some mental illness that is really dark, like a dark mental illness.
And I think that now maybe the world crusher is my friend.
So I get the feeling the world crusher has, you know, that element of darkness is in him.
So I think in my imagination and kind of call back on that being.
And immediately it comes up, but in a different shape, like a giant fucking sea serpent.
And it's wrapping these tentacles around my body like a Leviathan from the deep.
And I'm like, whoa.
I was like, what do you think about maybe letting this family member, what do you think about letting him go?
And then I was like, I don't think I can make that trade.
He's like, coward.
You wouldn't do that for someone you love?
You're a coward.
I thought you said you were invincible.
And he starts mocking me.
Clearly not my homie.
Like, clearly take the world crusher takes his job seriously.
So eventually I have to go like, you know what?
That's between you and him.
I can't step in there.
Like, there's nothing that I can do for you.
So I just had to let it go.
And I let him go, not making that proverbial deal.
And again, I don't think this is like really happening.
This could just be archetype, right?
But so anyways, from there, I was like, fuck, man, this has turned super dark.
Like, can I get some help?
Like, and since the archetype was demons, I was like, can I get a Jesus in here or something?
Like some kind of light and nothing light would come.
Although I did get a cool vision of like Jesus meeting the world crusher.
And I was like, ooh, this is going to be square, like showdown, UFC, ultimate, Jesus versus the world crusher.
And immediately they turned super gay and they started making out with each other and having sex.
Jesus and the world crusher started like having sex with each other.
And it was the wildest vision because it was this, like the ultimate love affair, like the two polarities of the cosmos, like all of the love and forgiveness and all of the power and destruction.
It was just love versus power and destruction, creation versus destruction.
The two polarities dancing, but expressed as the world crusher, this devil-like creature, and then Jesus.
You know, which started as kind of Jesus-y and then went into woman and then went into man.
Whatever.
It at least gave me a chuckle.
It was like a moment of, like, relief from this really fucking heavy trip.
But I still wasn't getting any personal interaction from anything on the light side, you know?
And so I'm still, like, kind of a little shaken up, especially after, you know, the world crusher called me a coward and I couldn't help, you know, this person in my family.
And it's like, fuck.
So then I see this.
I keep trying to reach out to, like, the helpers, like something from the light.
And I get this very faint message.
You know, sometimes the visions are super clear and sometimes they're faint.
It feels like you're kind of reaching for it, but I'll go with it.
I'll use my imagination as a bridge.
So I kind of go with it.
It's like, here, we have this thing for you.
And put it in your heart.
It'll give you extra, you know, it'll be what you're looking for.
And it's this brilliant ruby-like redstone, right?
This brilliant ruby stone.
And I was like, oh, wow, that's beautiful.
Like, I always imagined the thing in my heart being white, but red?
All right, it's cool.
I put it in my chest and then instantly I could feel myself getting this like hunger for power and feeling like the world crusher, like I wanted to destroy and manipulate.
And I was like, oh shit, that's not the thing.
You know, that wasn't a real gift.
That was getting tricked again.
So I pull this thing out of my heart, and for sure, like, I can just feel the evil emanating from it, right?
And I can hear the distant laughter of the world crusher, like, ha ha ha, fooled you again.
You accepted this stone.
And so I have this ruby stone in my vision.
I'm like, what the fuck am I going to do with this?
So I have this place that I've developed in my meditation.
It's like my happy place, right?
It's a place I go and I imagine it in my mind.
It's like my happy place.
I was like, all right, I'm going to put my stone in my happy place and I'm going to leave it there in my vision.
Well, I put it there in the happy place and it turns to fucking like swamp and bog and Everything, all the trees are withering.
Like you see in one of those fantasy movies where the darkness anchors into a place and all the life dies around.
And I was like, fuck man, I can't put it there.
It's going to destroy this world I created.
It's like, I bring it back and I was like, I hear this voice, like, just put it in your heart.
You can hold it.
You're strong enough to hold it.
So like, okay, yeah, maybe my heart's the only place I can put it.
It's the only way it's going to be safe.
Put it back in there.
Bad idea, obviously.
That was another trick.
But I'm really getting shaken here because I keep getting fucking tricked and I keep not knowing what my mind is telling me that's helpful or whether it's coming from something else.
So eventually I move it out of my body and I'm looking at it and I was like...
Fuck.
The only way that I can get rid of this is to dissolve it evenly across the entire spectrum of creation, right?
Take this and dissolve it into the all so that the entire game, all of good, all of bad, everything can hold this amount of evil.
It's too concentrated for any one thing to hold.
I got to dissolve it.
And I tried that move with my imagination and it worked.
Boom.
And the redstone dissolves and then all of creation holds that darkness and that power.
And I'm sitting there and I just at this point just fucking surrender.
Like I've just been totally getting my ass kicked, you know, for the majority of this trip.
And especially just having been tricked and I'm just kind of like in a state of surrender.
And at that point I feel like kind of like Iron Man style.
I feel this breastplate come slap onto my chest, and it has this really beautiful fire opal stone, and this helmet come onto my head, bink!
And this helmet comes, and it has this other brilliant white light, and I feel wings shoot out from my back, right?
And obviously it's ayahuasca.
Shit's crazy.
And I'm flying in the air and there's a bunch of like eagles and other birds and it's all like peaceful and all good.
And it was like all of the allies, like all of the good guys, all the good team Kind of came through and they were flying over this world that was dark and fires and pollution and chaos and they were just bringing this like fresh air of like white light and I was just cruising and so for the last 30 minutes of the trip I was just literally like flapping my wings in the vision just kind of cruising over the world with all my eagle homies and it was fucking one of the gnarliest obviously experiences
And again, I think the lesson, it's really just about that was the type of resistance That could summon the very best out of me.
The move to show the world crusher love.
All of the moves that I had to make, I was only able to learn about myself from the extreme pressure of that vision.
That's one of the beautiful parts of the ayahuasca vision.
It tends to give you just enough that if you show up with your best and you choose love and you choose the things that are going to bring out the best outcome, You'll make it through.
But it brings you to that very fucking brink where it feels like, man, you know, the stakes are really, really high.
It's interesting because I think stories like that and experiences like yours, although you've got to go somewhere to experience them legally, those stories are what people are going to rely on.
Of the potential experiences that people are gonna come back with and go, dude, look what he's saying about this.
Do you wanna go there?
How do we get there?
You gotta go over the mountain?
Go over the mountain to meet the World Crusher.
Fuck, man.
Okay, he definitely came back?
Yeah, he's back, man.
He's in Austin.
He's hanging out.
Yeah.
One day, all this stuff is going to be legal, and one day, all sorts of psychedelic experiences, whether it's mescaline or fucking mushrooms, whatever, they're all going to be really commonplace.
They're going to be as commonplace as going to get a massage or as commonplace as taking a yoga class.
Just, right now we're in a weird place where someone like you telling that story seems like a crazy person.
Because people have had similar experiences of reference.
I mean, I think the way that a lot of people experience this is in archetypes that you learn about and there's a different character in the story, you know, which is something you can learn from.
Like the Harry Potter movies, like Jordan was talking about.
You know, you can learn from those archetypes, but it's different when, you know, you get a chance to play as the main character.
You know, some of the shamans, that's their move, right?
They're constantly trying to get mastery and dominion over all of these things.
I just find that the more you try and fight with them, the more they just love it.
Like, whatever thing you're trying to fight, whatever darkness you're trying to fight, the more you fight with them, they're just like, fuck yeah, bring it on.
This is what I do.
You're in my house now, bitch.
You know, like you're trying to wrestle with Ben Askren, like they got the drop on you.
But the minute you change the game and recognize them as an important part and send them love, that's when the conflict ends.
You have to sit up, sit down, talk to do different things.
Yeah.
It's all common, you know, whether it's religious or whether it's medical or whether it's, I think the plants are going to show up when humans need the help the most.
And I think that's, that's the spot we're in.
And You know, ayahuasca, it's not for everybody.
Like, don't everybody rush out and do it.
Like, do it if that's what's really calling for you.
If you want to learn more, I just released that documentary.
It's free.
Just go to drinkthejungle.com.
That's the URL. Drink the Jungle.
Check it out.
And get an idea if that's for you.
But there's so many ways.
And you don't need to do plants.
You can do it with your fucking breath.
You can do it with yoga.
You can do it with floating.
You can do it.
With legal weed, you know, there's so many ways to climb the mountain.
But finding those ways to bring out the best part of yourself, essential.