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Oct. 14, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #860 - Russell Peters
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russell peters
It's been three years since he texted back.
joe rogan
We are live right now, and our brother Joey Coco Diaz is in Chicago tonight.
If you are lucky to get tickets to his show at Zaney's in Rosemont, Illinois.
It's not technically Chicago, right?
How far away is that?
russell peters
Rosemont's like 20 minutes, 20 minutes.
Just outside.
joe rogan
That's where Joey is, and he's filming tonight.
For CISO. What's CISO? Yeah, exactly.
Some new thing that Doug Stanhope has a special on CISO. Now Joey has a special on CISO. And apparently it's like NBC is doing something.
Something that NBC is doing.
russell peters
Well, Netflix is giving apparently $40 million to Chris Rock.
joe rogan
What?
russell peters
Did you hear that?
joe rogan
What?
russell peters
$40 million for two specials.
joe rogan
Jesus.
russell peters
That's fucking insane.
joe rogan
Jesus.
russell peters
That's $20 million to special.
joe rogan
That's a record.
russell peters
Yeah, I would say.
They got into a bidding war with HBO apparently for like...
unidentified
Wow.
russell peters
HBO went up to $30 million and then Netflix said, fuck you, here's $40.
joe rogan
Holy shit, Netflix is ballin'.
russell peters
Yeah, but now I feel gypped.
joe rogan
Netflix is out of control right now, but so is HBO. I've been watching Westworld.
Have you watched Westworld yet?
russell peters
Is that on HBO? Yeah.
joe rogan
Holy shit, it's good.
russell peters
I've heard about it, but I thought it was on CBS or something.
unidentified
Good.
russell peters
Yeah?
joe rogan
It's good.
russell peters
That's where they go into that weird, like a fake world and...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, it's based on that 1973 movie with Yul Brynner, Westworld.
russell peters
Good old Yul.
joe rogan
Yeah, which was basically the same kind of movie.
It was basically the same as the show.
How many times was I going to say basically in the first five minutes?
But what it was is, you know, so people can go and have like a fantasy and live in the Wild West, but obviously the robots don't play, and they start malfunctioning, and that's where I'm in episode two.
russell peters
It's kind of like Cowboy Logan's Run.
joe rogan
Logan's Run.
Wow, I don't even remember that.
russell peters
Really?
You don't remember Logan's Run?
joe rogan
I barely remember.
I was trying to remember.
russell peters
I loved Logan's Run when I was a kid.
joe rogan
What was Logan's Run?
russell peters
Was it a series or was it a movie?
It was a series.
I think it was a movie and then it became a series.
Yeah, there it is.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
I remember the poster.
Welcome to the 23rd century.
russell peters
Isn't that weird?
That is weird.
joe rogan
It's so weird what they thought we were going to be living like.
Do you remember Space 1999?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
russell peters
I remember everything was...
I remember when I was breakdancing in 1984, there was a move called the 1990 where you jumped on...
You remember that move?
You flipped upside down on one hand and spun.
The move that Cuba Gooding Jr. did in...
joe rogan
Go back.
Go back to those pictures.
Go back to the first one you went to.
Look at that.
They got one thing right.
People are going to be wearing pre-ripped pants like assholes.
And girls are going to be showing their vaginas.
They got both of those things right.
russell peters
And that hairstyle's back.
joe rogan
Both hairstyles are back.
Chicks are wearing hairstyles like that too.
So what was the move?
unidentified
The 1990?
russell peters
It was called the 1990. Oh, that's good stuff.
joe rogan
Is that real?
russell peters
That's cosplay.
joe rogan
Keep causing, girl.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever you're doing, I like it.
I'm so happy that girls still dress like that.
All this crazy talk of women not dressing sexy or alluring like that is just disturbing to me, Russell Peters.
I don't want that to change.
russell peters
I mean, you know, it depends on when and where they're doing it, right?
joe rogan
No, do it whenever you want.
Give them the green light.
Office buildings, everything.
russell peters
Office buildings would be great.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
russell peters
I remember going into office buildings, just getting a hard-on, looking at the secretaries and the heels.
joe rogan
A full hard-on?
russell peters
I was in my early 20s, late 19s, you know?
joe rogan
You're a madman.
russell peters
I was a lunatic.
joe rogan
You're a different kind of guy.
russell peters
I was knocking shit over with my cock.
joe rogan
You didn't grab any pussies, though, did you?
russell peters
I was not a pussy grabber.
joe rogan
I'm not either.
russell peters
No, I don't even know how you'd grab a pussy without actually fingering it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, how do you grab it on the outside?
Maybe that's the benefit of having those little hands.
russell peters
Yeah, those little hands could just fully grab it.
joe rogan
Like one of those folder holder things that you use to...
russell peters
Those little paper clips?
Yeah.
Oh, I know those ones.
joe rogan
Clamps.
unidentified
With the little stainless steel...
russell peters
Donald Clamp running for president.
Clamp and pinch.
joe rogan
There's a fucking hilarious meme that I saw that somebody put online.
It's so funny.
It shows different presidential quotes throughout history.
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country.
John F. Kennedy.
Grab them by the pussy.
Donald Trump.
This is where we are.
This is really where we are.
russell peters
We turned reality into reality.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you think that that's what started it all?
That like reality TV, like from Survivor on, exposing the world to, instead of to people that we've created, like Magnum P.I. or, you know...
Fill in the blank.
russell peters
Yeah, they gave us things.
We used to have things to strive to want to be.
Yes.
And then they took it down to lowest common denominator and made us go, oh, thank God they took away all that and now we can just be normal again.
We can be hopeless.
joe rogan
Yeah, they brought it down to Snooki.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, they went from people that you could never be like.
MacGyver, yeah.
Gets out of every situation.
That's confusing too though, right?
Because people start thinking that they can be MacGyver or that they can solve the world's problems.
russell peters
Well, it gets your brain moving.
It kind of gives a little jog.
It makes you think sideways and gives you the opportunity to think laterally.
But when you've got a dummy just saying things that you want to hear, you go, ugh.
Okay, I can turn it off now, guys.
joe rogan
That's the one thing that confuses me the most about Donald Trump.
I didn't know there were that many assholes out there.
Like, I kind of knew, but I didn't know they were going to organize.
russell peters
It's weird to me that, you know, when you meet people that, again, you thought were level-headed, thinking people.
joe rogan
Is that Eric B., like Eric B. and Rakim?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, nice.
russell peters
Eric B. is actually living at my house in Vegas right now.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up!
Really?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Damn, dude.
russell peters
You know, I keep it hip-hop, son.
joe rogan
You do?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You do.
What about Rakim?
russell peters
Rakim's not living in the house, no.
No?
Secretly, I think they may be getting back together.
joe rogan
Secretly?
You just gave it up on the air.
russell peters
I mean, I can't say that they are.
I said they may be.
joe rogan
Well, you're starting rumors.
russell peters
Is that what we're doing now?
That's the way to go to get that one started.
Trying to get everybody paid.
joe rogan
Oh, I love those guys.
We were just talking about them yesterday.
unidentified
Were you?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
russell peters
Who was on yesterday?
Was that Jesse?
joe rogan
Jesse Ventura and then Red Band.
But we were talking about Eric B and Rakim.
russell peters
We were talking about EPMD. Yeah, I'm friends with DJ Scratch from EPMD. Oh, shit!
I'm almost friends with the DJ of the group.
Have you noticed that?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you're a DJ. That makes sense.
It's like us being friends with comedians.
russell peters
Yeah, we happen to know one or two of them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Isn't it a funny thing about being a comic?
Like, you run into another comic somewhere, and you're like, Oh, you!
Come here, you!
We're around regular people.
russell peters
Get over here!
We're all left-brain thinkers.
We need to be together.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the left-brain?
russell peters
Yeah.
That's what I've heard.
joe rogan
Is that real?
russell peters
I don't know.
joe rogan
Like, if you kick somebody in the left side of the head, does it fuck up their jokes?
russell peters
I don't know.
Somebody sent me something that says, uh...
That's in my iTunes.
It's on my iTunes.
Whatever, but it was about how some sort of head trauma can make your brain relate everything to a joke after.
joe rogan
Well, there's a book that Sam Kinison's brother wrote, Brother Sam, and it's all about how Sam, well, it's all about Sam, but a big part of it is how Sam changed when he got hit by a car.
He was a little kid, and he got nailed by a car and really fucked up.
And from that point on, he became this maniac, this wild, crazy, reckless motherfucker.
Like, before that, he was like a normal kid.
And bang!
One hard shot to the head, and all of a sudden he's like, oh, oh!
Like all the crazy ranting and the sermons he used to give.
russell peters
I guess when you get close to death, you look at it one of two ways, right?
joe rogan
I don't think that's it.
I think it's traumatic brain injury.
russell peters
That's what I'm saying, but like, again, your brain goes, oh, fuck, well, we didn't suffer through that, now let's just enjoy the rest of this.
joe rogan
That would be nice if that made sense.
russell peters
If that was a fact, I don't know, but I like making up my own facts.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
I think what it is is damage.
I think damage to the brain, like actual physical damage, affects impulse control.
And it has something to do with that and getting angry quicker.
There's a bunch of factors that come into play that you see with football players, too.
russell peters
You think they'd be hilarious after all those times.
joe rogan
I know, right?
Maybe they are.
Maybe we need to find one right before they become too stupid to talk.
Just ask them, like, what do you find?
russell peters
I mean, they weren't that bright to begin with.
joe rogan
How dare you say that?
They can be bright.
If they were big and giant and they wanted to make money, football's the way to go, right?
What else are you going to do?
Be a strong man?
russell peters
I don't know.
I mean, you could fight.
joe rogan
How much does Strongman mean?
You can't even fight if you're that big.
Because, like, at 265 pounds, that's the weight limit for MMA. There's a limit on it now.
unidentified
There's a fucking limit.
russell peters
That's so weird.
joe rogan
So weird.
russell peters
Because, remember, Emmanuel Yarbrough, what was he?
600 pounds?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, look what happened to him.
Keith Hackney bitch slapped him in a coma.
russell peters
That's true, that's true.
Didn't he break his wrist on that?
joe rogan
He hit him with a bitch slap.
russell peters
It was that side, weird, side...
joe rogan
Well, once he got him down, he was hammerfisting him.
He was, like, one of the first guys to do the hammerfist in a fight.
russell peters
I remember seeing that and going, that's a terrible punch.
joe rogan
It's effective.
You know what's cool about a hammer fist is, like, you can do this to the table, like this oak table, and it doesn't hurt your hand at all.
But if you did that with your knuckles, you'd be like, ah!
But it's weird that we punch with our knuckles.
russell peters
Well, you know, we just associate this soft, padded part as not going to hurt you.
joe rogan
Exactly.
It fucking hurts a lot.
Like, hammer fists are very effective.
russell peters
Have you hammer-fisted anybody?
joe rogan
No.
No, I never hammer-fisted anybody.
Not that I can remember.
russell peters
I just realized we went into fisting real quick.
joe rogan
When you're spitting back-fist somebody, there's two ways to do it.
You could do it with the actual back of the hand, but that hurts.
Like, if you hit someone's chin...
russell peters
Yeah, it's very tender there.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you hit someone's chin with the very back of your hand, you could fuck your hand.
You could break your hand, for sure.
But the right way to do a spitting back-fist is with the hand down, with the palm of the hand facing down with the fist.
So, in that way, you are hammer-fisting someone.
It's really a spinning hammer fist.
More than a spinning back fist.
That's the way to do it right.
russell peters
I've never done a spinning back fist on anybody.
No?
No.
joe rogan
It's a brutal move.
russell peters
You gotta really time that one right.
joe rogan
Yeah, you do.
unidentified
You gotta know what the fuck you're doing.
russell peters
You gotta be very confident knowing that you're turning your back on the guy real quick.
joe rogan
It's weird how the different ways people figured out how to fuck people up.
I was watching a street fight today between these two chicks.
russell peters
Here?
unidentified
For real?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It was on Instagram.
russell peters
Oh, was it the one where the girl said, Kick my ass, bitch!
Kick my ass!
You said you were going to kick my ass!
Kick my ass, bitch!
It was two white girls sounding like really ghetto black girls for some reason.
joe rogan
I didn't even listen because my wife was there.
I just watched.
russell peters
A blonde girl and her head hits the car.
joe rogan
Yes!
russell peters
Yeah, I've seen that one.
joe rogan
Dude!
See, you know.
Yeah, she throws her to the ground.
She kind of curbs her a little bit, too.
Beats the fuck out of her.
And she got attacked.
She got attacked.
She totally turned around.
Beat that girl's ass.
russell peters
Yeah, and she kept chasing her, and that girl kept talking shit.
joe rogan
Yes, while she was beating the fuck out of her.
russell peters
I'm like, well, you know, if you hit her on the jaw, maybe she'd go to sleep and you wouldn't have to hear her talk anymore.
joe rogan
But the girl, my point was when she had her down, she's hammer fisting him.
People know that's a legit move now.
MMA has changed street fighting forever.
russell peters
It really has.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
People know.
They know what to do now.
And you could see, especially with kids, there's a ton of videos of trained kids who actually know how to fight and they get attacked by someone who doesn't know how to fight and they wind up armbarring them or getting them in a mounted triangle.
russell peters
Like the kid that did that to Cat Williams.
joe rogan
Oh yes!
Yeah, well that kid was a wrestler, yeah.
russell peters
Yeah, he was 17. I thought he was only 15. Whatever he was, he was a teenager.
joe rogan
Yes.
russell peters
And he got him in a nice seat, stretched him out and everything.
He got his back and just stretched him.
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with Cat Williams?
russell peters
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
He's one of us.
What's he doing?
russell peters
I don't know.
He's one of us, but he's also one of those guys, it seems like, who's hitting that pipe every now and then.
I don't know.
I can't confirm nor deny those allegations.
joe rogan
There's definitely some stimulants involved.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's something going on.
russell peters
Yeah, something's gone awry.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm fascinated by him because I think he's one of the best comics alive in bursts, like in moments.
But then he'll have these horrible, wretched shows where there's class action lawsuits or people want their money back and he winds up leaving.
But then he gets it back together and has some amazing stories.
Like he'll put together a special and have amazing stories based on all the fucked up shit he did.
russell peters
It's almost like he does it on purpose.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But I don't think he does.
But it seems like he could write the ship.
Like he's just like, fuck it, I'm steering into the wind!
He steers into the wind and then he's like, alright, that did not work out.
We gotta get the Cat Williams boat back online.
russell peters
We gotta turn this around, there's an iceberg coming.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he figures out how to right the ship, and then he comes back around.
But, man.
When he's on, he's fucking funny.
russell peters
Yeah.
Because he's fearless.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Absolutely fearless.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He definitely does not give a fuck.
And with his hair, something about that conked out hair, and the sweat, you know?
russell peters
And profuse sweat.
That's that Molly sweat.
joe rogan
Sweating that MDMA out of your system.
Did you ever see the time where him and Steve Harvey, they did this thing together.
It was real weird.
It was like they were touring together.
russell peters
That doesn't make any sense to me.
unidentified
At all.
joe rogan
Steve Harvey would go on first, and then Cat Williams would go on second.
And I guess they were talking shit about each other leading up to the show.
So Steve Harvey goes on, and then Cat Williams spends the first ten minutes mocking him.
And it is fucking brutal and hilarious.
russell peters
Well, I'm with Kat on that one.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard to not be.
That Steve Harvey guy's a weird dude.
russell peters
I've never met him, actually.
27 years in this game, I never met Steve Harvey.
joe rogan
Well, I met him a long time ago, back when he was essentially doing a Richard Pryor impression.
When I met him in the 90s, he was doing Richard Pryor on stage.
I mean, it was crazy.
If you didn't know, you would think, is this guy auditioning for a Richard Pryor movie or something like that?
russell peters
Yeah, I don't remember his stand-up.
At all from back then.
joe rogan
Well, it wasn't like he was doing Pryor's material.
unidentified
But he was talking as if he was Richard Pryor!
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
You know, there was the whole thing.
Like, guys, you know how it is.
russell peters
You get influenced.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did you ever do that?
russell peters
No, I mean, I was always into, like, Carlin and stuff like that, so I was not smart enough to copy Carlin.
I mean, I knew my intelligence level was far lesser than Carlin, so I would just do what I did.
joe rogan
I caught myself on stage once, sounded exactly like Richard Cheney, and I was like, Jesus.
russell peters
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Exactly.
russell peters
You went in.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I was open-miker.
russell peters
Now there's a whole slew of comics that try to sound like Mitch.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Yeah, there's a few of them out there, and it freaks me out, and everyone's on their dick, and I'm like, wait, you know that's Mitch, right, that they're doing?
joe rogan
Well, like, okay, you can't tell me names, but...
Yeah.
Well, Hedberg had such a distinct style.
That would be kind of crazy.
But you hear with a tell.
I mean, in New York, there's like five or six guys that I could name right now.
russell peters
No, everybody at the cellar has the same way of speaking.
joe rogan
They're all a tell babies.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Or, shut up, stupid.
Yeah.
Everybody wants to be Keith Robinson over there.
joe rogan
Oh, that too, right.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's interesting.
You know, that's one of the reasons why I have some comments.
russell peters
And everybody with the...
joe rogan
What's that?
russell peters
That's a cellar thing.
What are you doing?
I get it.
Everything makes them...
joe rogan
Who does that?
russell peters
Who's that coming from?
When you go to the cellar next time you talk to guys...
It's just a group of all of them?
You'll just hear everybody and you'll be like, oh my god, that's the fucking cellar talk.
I like it.
joe rogan
Clicks.
russell peters
It is a little clicky, but...
unidentified
Little clicks.
russell peters
But I get sucked into it when I'm there too.
I just do it because I'm around them.
I mean, I'm like, I guess this is what we're doing, guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's interesting how little clubs like The Cellar just spawn.
They just take off, and it's become the spot.
I mean, you think about how many spots could be the spot in New York City.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Doesn't New York City, like, have a hundred comedy clubs or something crazy?
russell peters
There's a ton of them, and there's new ones opening all the time, and then there's people try doing a nice one or a classier one, and...
joe rogan
That shit never works.
russell peters
Yeah, you need the nice grimy cellar.
I mean, it is what it is.
Low ceiling, everybody packed in real tight, and then you get the A-list of comics walking through there.
joe rogan
Yeah, just to practice.
Isn't it funny that it's also funny, too, that to practice, the best place to practice is a little tiny place.
russell peters
Always.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Yeah.
You don't want to practice in front of a room full of people, three, four hundred people.
joe rogan
Have you ever thought about doing a special in front of a tiny group of people?
russell peters
I have, but then, you know, Sarah did the one in front of like 12 people or something like that.
joe rogan
She did?
russell peters
Yeah, she did one with a really small audience.
joe rogan
Oh, wasn't it Largo?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
How big's Largo?
Have you ever been to Largo?
russell peters
Well, she did it in one of the small rooms at Largo.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
russell peters
Yeah.
But, I mean, if anybody can make that work, Sarah Silverman can.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She's fucking funny.
She doesn't do enough.
russell peters
She doesn't do enough and she doesn't get the respect she deserves.
No.
joe rogan
I don't think so either.
Yeah, I mean, she's not funny on a curve.
Like, oh, she's a funny woman.
russell peters
No, I told her that once.
I said, you know, Sarah, you're one of my favorite comics.
Not one of my favorite female comics.
One of my favorite comics as a human being comic.
joe rogan
I saw her at the store maybe a year ago and she was murdering.
Just murdering.
I was like, man, sometimes I forget how good she is.
russell peters
You forget, A, how good she is, how great her jokes are written.
And, you know, I get through this, I go through this little phase when I, like, now I'm back at the zero point with no material.
And I've been going out every night, but my trick is to go and host so that way there's not too much expectation on me.
joe rogan
Right.
That's a good move.
russell peters
Yeah, so I can get my confidence back and then I can see the level of talent around me and what way everybody's thinking and then I can figure out if I want to tell stories or if I want to tell jokes, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah.
When do you write?
Do you write in front of a computer?
Do you write on a notebook?
russell peters
I don't physically write anything ever.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Ever.
joe rogan
A lot of guys are like that.
Bill Burr doesn't either.
russell peters
Yeah.
I was just with Bill the other night, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, we had that conversation about that.
russell peters
I can't.
I feel like it's...
Well, first of all, I'm too lazy.
That's the real issue.
It has nothing more to do with anything than, I don't want to sit down and write this.
I don't even want to watch my sets.
My Almost Famous special's out now.
I haven't watched it.
joe rogan
No?
russell peters
It was sent to me months ago, and I was like, I can't.
joe rogan
Is it on Netflix?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
When did you film it?
russell peters
In April.
joe rogan
How many times did you watch it?
russell peters
Not once.
joe rogan
You didn't watch it at all to edit it?
russell peters
Not even once.
My brother was sat in on the edits, and then my mom was watching it.
My mom was in town, so she was watching it in the living room the other day, and I walked past, like, what are you watching?
She goes, you!
And then I was listening here and there, and I'm like, why'd they keep that in?
I'm like, that sucks.
Why would you keep that in?
joe rogan
Yeah, I just watched a trailer for my special today, and I don't like watching myself either.
russell peters
Oh yeah, yours is coming out in a week or two?
joe rogan
October 21st.
russell peters
Yeah, in a week, basically.
joe rogan
Yeah, next Friday, 21st.
russell peters
I opened for you.
joe rogan
You did?
russell peters
Yeah, last week, my special aired.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm like, what?
I know I smoke a lot of pot, but...
russell peters
Yeah, we know we've never done a show together, I don't think.
joe rogan
We've done the Ice House.
russell peters
Oh, that's true.
I hosted that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Well, I'll do it again then.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, dude.
russell peters
I like hosting.
It's fun for me.
joe rogan
I'm there again on the 28th, Friday the 28th.
russell peters
I think I am in San Jose that weekend, if I'm not mistaken.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
San Jose.
russell peters
Improv.
joe rogan
I love that place.
That fucking improv is the shit.
russell peters
It's great.
But again, I have no act.
So if anybody is coming out to see me, just understand that I don't have an act right now.
joe rogan
Well, you got a little bit of an act.
How much do you have?
russell peters
Zip.
I have literally fucking nothing.
I have one joke, and I could say it now, but then it's over.
joe rogan
How much time do you give yourself before you start doing theaters again?
russell peters
I wait till I got jokes, actual jokes.
I wait till I got at least 40 minutes.
joe rogan
So do you, like, just keep banging it out and then go, okay, we're good, start booking shit?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or do you get in, like, a few months and you go, alright, now I'm gonna give myself a deadline?
russell peters
Deadlines are good for us.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Because otherwise we're just, you know, we'll just keep coasting.
joe rogan
That's how, for me, writing a new special is very important.
Like, putting a special out and then chucking it and then writing all new shit, it's so important because otherwise we all know those guys that have been around forever doing the same material.
russell peters
Oh, I know some comics in Canada.
Hilarious!
Their acts are funny as hell, but they've been doing the same act for 30 years.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
russell peters
And then they give me shit.
I knew the last special wasn't very good.
I go, yeah, well, you know what?
You haven't done new material in 30 years.
joe rogan
They actually say that to you?
russell peters
You know, I get people that get a little brave on the internet there.
joe rogan
They're a little jealous.
russell peters
A little bold.
joe rogan
A little jealous of Russell.
Russell went international.
russell peters
They'll make their little Facebook statuses.
joe rogan
Mr. Worldwide like Pitbull.
russell peters
That's it.
I'm Shitbull.
unidentified
Shitbull?
joe rogan
You can't help yourself.
russell peters
It's a fucking puns.
It's a problem.
I was killing Joe with the puns at Kill Tony.
joe rogan
Well, I was trapped in a pun sandwich between Tony Hinchcliffe on one side and Russell Peters on the other side, and the puns were flowing like water.
russell peters
Would you like this on bread or a pun?
joe rogan
I had to start doing puns myself, and I rarely do puns.
I was throwing them in myself just to keep up with these fucking guys.
russell peters
We're idiots.
joe rogan
Well, it's such a specific style of joke, the pun.
russell peters
You know what it is?
It takes you back to your father.
Because fathers always did puns.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's like the silly, clever thing to say.
russell peters
My father, you have an uncle who had the puns, what have you.
joe rogan
Yeah, what have you.
Dude, you tour everywhere, man.
Like, you were in Dubai, and you go all over.
russell peters
I was in Saudi Arabia.
joe rogan
Holy shit!
russell peters
What is that like?
You do the show as men on one side, women on the other.
joe rogan
Good.
Stay over there.
russell peters
Yeah.
I was asking them, like, why?
Like, why?
Why?
And they're like, and honestly, the guys were telling me, and these are like normal, or supposed to be normal, level-headed men telling me this.
And these weren't, like, you know, any high ups or anything.
These were normal guys.
Oh, because the women, they'll go crazy and they'll want to attack us.
I'm like, look at you, dude, and look at them.
They're not trying to attack you.
joe rogan
They'll want to attack them.
russell peters
And have sex with them in the streets.
That's what they've been brainwashed into believing.
That if these women aren't separated, they'll just come and attack you and want that dick.
joe rogan
Maybe that is the case, though, when you keep them separated.
If you keep them from men all the time, when they finally get around men, maybe they just jump on dick like a hero on a grenade.
russell peters
Yeah, but the guys are a little too friendly with each other, as far as I'm concerned.
joe rogan
Gay stuff.
russell peters
Yeah, but I don't even think they recognize it as homosexual, because they're not attracted to men.
joe rogan
They get horny and they just start jerking each other off.
russell peters
I don't know that for sure, but I could see that as a possibility.
joe rogan
If you're just around dudes all the time, just repressed, Well, I know dudes who've been in the military who've done tours, and they go overseas to the Middle East, and they say that guys fuck young boys all the time.
russell peters
That's weird to me.
joe rogan
Well, you think that that's a consequence of the separation between the men and the women?
russell peters
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know what it is.
It's weird to me.
But when I did the show, I played right down the aisle.
I stood where the aisle was.
When I was on stage, I stood where the aisle was so that I didn't really pick a side.
joe rogan
Did you turn like a sprinkler?
russell peters
Yeah, I did.
I kept turning like that.
Like I was just trying to water half the lawn.
joe rogan
Now, when you do shows like that, do you ever worry about doing something that can get you in trouble?
russell peters
It's not so much that I worry about doing stuff that'll get me in trouble.
It's doing stuff that they may deem as offensive.
Because I know what is offensive.
And then you gotta worry about people's sensitivities.
So I'll always ask the promoter, like, straight up.
I'm like, what can't I talk about?
And they're like, no religion.
Don't mention the royal family.
And try to keep sex to a minimum.
I'm like, eh, alright.
joe rogan
Wow, no religion.
Can't you just mock Mormons?
Can't you make fun of Mormons?
russell peters
You probably could.
joe rogan
Yeah, they wouldn't give a fuck about that.
russell peters
But they, again, wouldn't know what a Mormon was.
They would think it was a sect.
unidentified
Really?
russell peters
No, I don't know.
I'm sure they wouldn't know what a Mormon is.
Mormon's very specific to this part of the world.
Wasn't it created here?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, it was created in...
Well, they took over Utah, essentially.
What's interesting...
Do you perform in Utah a lot?
russell peters
Once or twice.
Not very often.
joe rogan
It's really interesting.
russell peters
It's a great club.
joe rogan
It's great.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, Wise Guys and Salt Lake, they have two of them now, right?
They have a larger one.
They had the original one.
I think they opened a larger one.
russell peters
The one down from the mall?
joe rogan
I don't remember the address, but...
But they have...
Utah's interesting because you have these Mormons, but you have a lot of really cool people that are sick of the Mormons' bullshit.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they surround them, too.
But then, Mormons...
I mean, it's a wacky cult, right?
russell peters
It's very bizarre.
joe rogan
But they're really nice!
They're some of the nicest cult members ever.
russell peters
Yeah.
It's a tough line to walk.
Because I'm not sure what their deal is.
I'm not sure if they're trying to convert you, but then as a brown guy, I'm like...
Well, they only just started letting us believe their shit about 20 years ago, right?
Didn't they only let black people in like 20 years ago?
joe rogan
Is that what happened?
I didn't even know there's any black Mormons.
There's got to be like a clan of black Mormons.
Please find that, Jamie.
Yeah.
There's got to be some sort of a group where they get together.
russell peters
They're called more than men's.
joe rogan
Mmm.
Jesus Christ.
russell peters
Can't all be good, Joe.
joe rogan
Let's pretend that didn't happen.
But they have a great spot.
Salt Lake City is goddamn gorgeous.
You know, they have the mountains there.
russell peters
It is nice.
Air is nice up there.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love Utah.
russell peters
I walked a lot when I was there.
I would walk from the hotel to the gig.
Why?
Why not?
joe rogan
Okay.
russell peters
It was nice.
Nice air.
Needed the exercise.
joe rogan
Yeah, Salt Lake City, it's weird when you associate a place with something.
Like, San Francisco used to be gay.
Yeah.
Gays can't afford it anymore.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not really gay anymore.
russell peters
Yeah, they outpriced the gays.
joe rogan
Yeah, they did.
russell peters
They did.
They did.
joe rogan
I mean, there's definitely some rich gay folk out there, but as far as having a community of specific people, it's more tech.
Tech millionaires and shit.
russell peters
It's a lot of that.
A lot of...
There's a lot of, and there's a lot of old money there, too, you know, people that have just been there forever.
joe rogan
There's that, but as far as, like, the amount that things cost in San Francisco, it's the most obscene I've ever seen in terms of, like, real estate and what it costs to buy a house.
russell peters
Yeah, because if you want to be in the city, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
russell peters
But that's pretty much any city.
If you want to be in it, it's going to cost you a lot more.
joe rogan
It'll cost you a lot more, but you can live in West Hollywood.
unidentified
I mean, New York is insanity.
joe rogan
New York is insanity.
But you could live in West Hollywood, and it kind of makes sense.
russell peters
You could rent in West Hollywood.
It's hard to own in West Hollywood.
unidentified
Is it?
russell peters
I feel like everything's been purchased by somebody, and they just rent everything out.
joe rogan
Huh.
russell peters
At extremely high rent.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
But there's stuff for sale.
But it just doesn't...
California is so strange because of the earthquakes.
Everything's all spread out.
Nothing's stacked on top of each other.
You have downtown, but downtown's so rare.
russell peters
Downtown's so new.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it is now.
It's becoming new again.
russell peters
Yeah.
And real estate downtown's very expensive now, too.
I remember when they started doing it about 10 years ago, it was cheap.
Now you're like, wow, it's almost like New York pricing.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're turning it into an actual real city.
Johnny Depp is selling some...
Were you telling me about that?
russell peters
What's he selling?
joe rogan
Johnny Depp is selling some preposterous chunk of real estate there where he's got like five floors and some gigantic...
Well, you know, he's getting divorced.
russell peters
Yeah, so he's got to start dumping shit.
joe rogan
The kid's getting fucked.
He's getting fucked!
russell peters
Johnny?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's gonna have to give up a ton of cash.
That dummy didn't even get a prenuptial.
russell peters
At least I got a prenup this time.
joe rogan
Good for you.
This time?
russell peters
This time.
First time, no.
First time, no, but I was only married for 14 months, so it didn't matter.
joe rogan
They can't fuck you if you're only married for 14 months?
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Johnny Depp just listed his five Los Angeles penthouses for 12.78 million.
He's got five of them?
jamie vernon
He just sold one of them.
russell peters
Is it 12.7 each or in total?
jamie vernon
Total for all five.
russell peters
Oh, that's not too bad then.
joe rogan
No, it's not bad at all.
I thought they were all stacked.
I thought it was just...
jamie vernon
They are.
It's like the top couple floors of one of those buildings.
It's all five units together.
joe rogan
It's all him.
What is he doing buying all this stuff?
jamie vernon
They look pretty cool.
joe rogan
I think you guys buy all that stuff because the money starts flowing in.
He said, whoa, he's got some baller fucking houses.
Holy shit.
russell peters
Yeah, that's some cool shit.
joe rogan
Wow, that is amazing.
What a cool looking place.
jamie vernon
Three of them are connected.
The other two, I guess, are separate.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
So he's selling those two and the other three.
But the problem with apartment living is, man, you wind up paying all that money and then the neighbor right next door has a party.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you listen to his bullshit.
russell peters
That's probably why he bought all those so that way he was his own neighbor.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good move.
But you're still...
And also, then, if you're in downtown LA, one day, the fucking earth is going to shake.
And that building you're in is going to be useless.
You're not going to be able to fix that thing.
It's going to break.
There's going to be structural issues.
They're going to have to vacate the entire thing.
And you're going to get fucked out of all your hard-earned cash.
All that Jack Sparrow money.
russell peters
Well, he's getting fucked out of it anyway.
His earth is shaking already.
joe rogan
But she's hooked up with Elon Musk.
russell peters
Has she really?
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe she'll leave him alone.
Maybe she'll cut him some slack.
russell peters
I did not know she was with Elon Musk now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
I thought Elon was smarter than that.
joe rogan
No.
russell peters
You would think.
The guy's a fucking genius.
unidentified
He's a thinker.
russell peters
He's a forward thinker.
joe rogan
I think he likes pussy.
russell peters
Yeah, we all like pussy.
joe rogan
Well, he was married to some actress before that, and apparently he didn't have a prenuptial with her.
russell peters
Ugh.
joe rogan
Ugh, that's terrible.
Billionaire and the babe, Elon Musk, relentlessly pursued and was infatuated with Amber Heard, sending repeated emails requesting to meet the actress.
Okay.
I don't like the way that's phrased, because that's the work of some asshole.
russell peters
Yeah, it sounds like he wanted to grab her pussy.
joe rogan
Who wrote that?
Is that a girl or a guy who wrote that?
jamie vernon
Chris, so it could be either.
joe rogan
Yeah, right.
I like how you did that.
russell peters
It was written by Pat.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember, it's Pat.
You couldn't do that today.
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
If you did that today, they would call you transphobic.
russell peters
Yeah.
There's every phobic now.
joe rogan
She's not gender binary.
Z's not gender binary.
From your part of town, University of Toronto, there's this embattled professor who's standing his ground.
Against political correctness in Toronto.
And the kids are going crazy.
They're trying to get him removed.
He just refuses to use the 28 different gender pronouns.
He refuses to let people choose what gender pronoun they want to be called.
He's like, no, I'm going to call men men.
I'm going to call women women.
Like, this is ridiculous.
And this is censorship.
Like, you're trying to change people's behavior.
russell peters
Yeah.
Here's the problem, is that people now, with all this new liberty, they're just choosing to do things.
As opposed to actually being a certain way.
And I saw this story about this kid, Gavin something or another.
I think it was in North Carolina, if I'm not mistaken.
And was born a girl.
But when you see it, he's a 14 or 15 year old...
And he identifies as a male.
And when you see it, you're like, oh yeah, he's a boy.
There's no reason for me to not believe that this is the right way for this person to be.
But it should be case to case.
You know what I mean?
It shouldn't be.
You can't just blanket statement, oh, whatever you want to be, you can be.
No, fuck that.
It has to be genuine.
You can't just do it because that's the thing to do right now.
joe rogan
It does have to be genuine, but when you open it up like that, then it gives people who legitimately feel like they're in the wrong gender, it gives them the opportunity to express themselves in a different gender.
What's fucked up is that you're born a boy and you're a fucking boy, alright?
You're born a girl, you're a girl.
But if you're born a girl...
And you feel like you're a boy, you're never really going to be a boy.
So if I call you a boy and you take a bunch of hormones and everything, you're still not a boy.
What would be nice and what's probably eventually going to happen, there's going to be a way that they can change your sex, like literally change your sex.
There's going to be some way where they interfere with your DNA, they get in there and Russell Peters becomes Russellina Peters.
russell peters
It's a little hacking on your system there.
joe rogan
If you were a girl, what would you change your name to?
russell peters
Rose.
Ooh, I like it.
I still want to be RP. Beautiful.
joe rogan
You'd be beautiful.
You'd be like a flower.
russell peters
I'd be a beautiful flower.
Russell, rose petals.
joe rogan
I would be Tulip.
I'd be Tulip Rogan.
I've always wanted to be a tulip.
I feel like they're an underappreciated flower.
russell peters
They're very popular.
joe rogan
You don't want to be a rose because rose is like the king of the flowers.
It's a lot of pressure.
russell peters
But then you don't want to be orchid because that's the more expensive.
joe rogan
Orchids more expensive than roses?
russell peters
Fuck yeah, they're very expensive.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
How do you know this?
russell peters
Because my fiancee loves orchids.
Oh.
But the good thing with those is you buy one and they last for a long time.
You can keep those alive.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
How's that?
russell peters
The way they are.
You wrap them around a stick and they just keep growing.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So when you buy them, are they in dirt?
russell peters
Yeah, you get them in dirt.
joe rogan
Okay, so roses, you buy them and they're in a bush, so they're cut.
Yeah, they die quick.
Yeah, it's like that life support system thing they do where they put it in water.
Like, hey, keep the roses in water to keep them fresh.
They're dead.
russell peters
You killed them.
Should we pull the plug on these roses yet?
joe rogan
You know what I found out recently, we were talking about this the other day, that you can take the stem of one plant and plant it on another plant.
I was at this ranch and they had pistachio trees and the arms of the pistachio trees are grafted onto an avocado tree.
russell peters
So that stem cell.
joe rogan
No, it's not.
You just tried to make a pun out of it.
russell peters
I did, I did.
unidentified
Son of a bitch.
russell peters
That can't all be good, Joe.
You gotta spit them out so that way they get out there and you find out if they're good or not.
joe rogan
But you can't take a rose, like when someone gives you a rose that's been cut, you can't make that thing stay alive, can you?
Can you plant it in dirt?
russell peters
No, no.
It needs roots, right?
It needs the roots.
joe rogan
It's not gonna grow roots, right?
russell peters
No, it can't.
I don't think it can grow roots.
joe rogan
It's over.
russell peters
I think the top of the bud can flourish still.
joe rogan
The flower?
russell peters
Yeah, the flower itself.
joe rogan
It can do what?
russell peters
It can still flourish for a little while.
But the body is dead, basically.
joe rogan
The stem's dead?
russell peters
Yeah, the stem's dead.
joe rogan
But you can't take the flower and somehow...
russell peters
But it dies in increments.
It's dead from the cut point, I would imagine.
joe rogan
Oh, is that what it is?
russell peters
I don't know.
I'm assuming it would be dead from the cut point, and then it just slowly dies its way up.
unidentified
Hmm.
russell peters
That makes sense, right?
Oh, you can't?
So, I'm an idiot.
joe rogan
No.
You can regrow a rose once you cut it off the stem?
For real.
russell peters
I'm just not a horticulturalist.
joe rogan
Well, it's interesting to watch people who know flowers.
They know what to trim and what not to trim.
They're constantly, like, cutting pieces off of it.
russell peters
That's why they do what they do, and we just pay them to do that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Okay, I have nothing.
russell peters
I got nothing for that.
joe rogan
What's that?
jamie vernon
You can use it, doing it using potatoes.
russell peters
Oh, I've seen that before.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
So you take the stem, you stick it in a potato, and what does a potato do?
jamie vernon
It probably helps give it a root base, I would imagine.
I'm making a guess on that.
joe rogan
Can people hear you right now on that?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
You guys can't hear me because you don't have headphones on.
russell peters
But they won't do that in LA because people tend to avoid potatoes and carbs.
joe rogan
They do now.
It's the newest thing.
Have you been on that yet?
russell peters
What?
joe rogan
Avoiding carbs?
russell peters
No.
Clearly, look at me.
I look like I've avoided a carb.
joe rogan
You don't give a fuck, do you?
russell peters
I do.
I just fucking like food.
joe rogan
I do, too.
I give myself cheat days.
russell peters
Yeah.
When I was for the special, I had hired Alex Ariza to train me.
joe rogan
Alex Ariza, the guy who trained Pacquiao?
Really?
Did he get you on steroids?
russell peters
No, no, no, he didn't.
joe rogan
Isn't he famous for that?
russell peters
That's what everybody thinks he does, but I didn't see it.
He just works you fucking incredibly hard.
joe rogan
Yeah?
russell peters
Yeah, and I was like, Alex, you know I don't have a fight coming up, right?
Like, literally.
I'm not exaggerating when I tell you this.
I would spar 12 rounds boxing, and then...
unidentified
12?
russell peters
12 with 30-second breaks.
joe rogan
What?
russell peters
Yeah.
And then after that, an hour and a half of core.
joe rogan
Come on.
russell peters
Oh my God, I'm dying.
And I would literally get home and just be in bed for the rest of the day.
That was it.
joe rogan
So all that core stuff that Pacquiao does, do you think he got all that from him?
russell peters
I would imagine so.
joe rogan
Because I was always wondering.
I've never seen a fighter work more on their core than Pacquiao.
russell peters
He was telling me, though, that Pacquiao was addicted to that, though.
unidentified
Really?
russell peters
He would have to tell Pacquiao, don't do fucking sit-ups today.
joe rogan
Why?
russell peters
Because, you know, take a day off, let your muscles rest.
And he was like, no, you would just catch them, just doing them all the time.
And he would do like a thousand sit-ups.
Something stupid.
He said I couldn't get him to stop doing sit-ups.
He couldn't stop.
He was addicted to doing sit-ups.
joe rogan
That's so bizarre.
That's the one thing that most people hate.
russell peters
Yeah.
I hated these weird planking things he made me do.
I hated them.
joe rogan
Oh, like on your elbows?
russell peters
Not even on my elbows.
On the medicine ball, the half ball.
He'd turn it upside down and I would be on that and then my feet would be on a medicine ball.
So I'd be at that angle struggling the whole time.
joe rogan
And he'd just make you stand there?
russell peters
Yeah.
10 seconds, 15 seconds.
It's a long time.
joe rogan
Now, how'd you get in touch with that guy?
russell peters
You know, Ellie Secback?
joe rogan
No.
russell peters
He does ES News.
He's a boxing kid.
joe rogan
Oh, I know the name.
russell peters
Yeah.
He put me in touch with him.
joe rogan
That's a weird guy to get as a trainer, though, isn't it?
russell peters
The problem was I wanted to get skinny.
I wanted to lose weight.
I wanted to get small.
Alex is one of those guys who's like, no, I want to make sure you're fit and you're in shape.
I'm like, dude, I looked the same, but I was more fit.
joe rogan
But you hadn't lost any weight?
russell peters
No, I lost fat percentage.
And gain muscle mass.
But that's not what I wanted.
What did you want?
I don't have a fucking fight coming up.
I just wanted to get skinny.
joe rogan
You just want to slim down.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Give me AIDS if I have to.
Did you really say that?
How dare you.
Right now, Eazy-E is spinning in his grave.
russell peters
Well, you know.
Do you think he really had AIDS? It would appear so.
I don't think anybody would want to fake that one.
I mean, usually now when somebody dies of AIDS and they don't want to say it, they just say he had pneumonia.
joe rogan
Well, how few heterosexual people got AIDS? That's what's interesting, you know?
russell peters
That's true.
It is a difficult way to get it.
joe rogan
Yeah, like if Wilt Chamberlain didn't get AIDS, how does anybody have AIDS? Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
russell peters
And Magic Johnson.
joe rogan
Well, he did.
He got the hiv.
russell peters
But apparently he reads clear now.
That's what the word on the street is, that his tests are...
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't understand that.
Apparently, you can get HIV to such a level that your body doesn't detect it.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's all very confusing.
Diseases are very confusing.
Commenting on any of that stuff.
Like, where's the AIDS? Where'd it go?
Come on.
Everybody thought by the time this 2016 rolled around, we'd all be dead.
We'd all have AIDS, we'd all be dead.
Right?
russell peters
And then Chris Rock did the joke 20 years ago, remember?
joe rogan
What was that joke?
russell peters
My AIDS is acting up.
He said AIDS is just going to get to a point where it's just manageable.
With medication.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
russell peters
And it's basically where we're at right now.
joe rogan
Well, it's even crazier than manageable.
It's non-existent.
Do you remember when Sam Kinison had that bit about it?
Sam Kinison had like the most controversial bit.
He's like, Sam, they say, it's a communicable disease.
Heterosexuals can die from it too.
He goes, name one!
Name one fucking guy!
russell peters
Name one!
joe rogan
Because it's not our dance!
Remember he had that thing about Rock Hudson?
russell peters
Oh, I remember that.
joe rogan
You know, Rock Hudson had to be on his deathbed going, it was that last fucking dick.
It was that last dick.
unidentified
Why did I suck it?
Why did I suck it?
joe rogan
Millions of dicks.
Nothing ever went wrong.
russell peters
Dick, dick, dick.
joe rogan
Suck, suck, suck.
It was that last dick.
unidentified
Oh, oh!
joe rogan
That guy, man.
That's a guy that you can't imitate.
That's a real revolution in comedy.
There's only been a few real revolutions.
russell peters
There's that distinct voice that people get, right?
There's the mellow guys, there's the...
And if anybody does try to go that route, it's always trying to do Sam.
And now there's the people that want to be Mitch, and then there's the people that want to be Bill or Louie.
joe rogan
The Bill one was awesome, because there were so many people that were trying to be like Hicks.
There were so many Hicks clones, especially after he died, and everybody's like, I'm going to pick up the mantle.
I'm going to be that tortured road warrior who writes poems.
russell peters
Yeah, see, to me, Hicks always read to me as a...
Angry dorky guy.
Angry nerd.
That's how I always saw him.
unidentified
Right.
russell peters
Yeah.
I never looked at him and go, that guy's so cool.
Sam, I looked at him and go, that guy's kind of cool.
He's very rock and roll, you know?
joe rogan
Well, what's hilarious is Ari Shafir challenges people.
He goes, he wasn't funny.
He goes, show me one joke where Hicks was funny.
And people get crazy.
They get so mad.
They attack him.
They go after him.
He's like, yeah, good point.
He made a good point, but not funny.
Next.
russell peters
Yeah.
I'm with Ari on this.
I was never a Hicks fan, but...
joe rogan
I'm a Hicks fan.
I'm a Hicks fan.
Always will be.
I'm a fan of what he did, like the style.
It was very fascinating to me to watch, but he definitely wasn't the most hilarious guy.
It wasn't like Joey Diaz.
Like, you watch him and you can't stop laughing.
You're just crying.
russell peters
I think Kindler is a better version of Hicks.
joe rogan
Kindler?
How so?
russell peters
I mean, Kindler's got that fucking sharpness to him.
joe rogan
But he's a lot of shticky stuff.
russell peters
He does some shticky stuff, but you almost know he's doing it on purpose.
joe rogan
Oh, he definitely is.
russell peters
But again, he's also one of those guys that only comics know about or love.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's weird.
I always felt like Kindler would catch on.
russell peters
He was on somebody's sitcom for a minute.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was he?
russell peters
Yeah.
What sitcom did Kindler end up on?
joe rogan
You thinking about Patton?
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
Because Patton was on a sitcom.
Patton was on Kevin James sitcom.
russell peters
Yeah, I think Andy Kindler dropped in on that every now and then too.
joe rogan
Did he?
russell peters
Or was it Drew Carey's?
One of them.
Do you got that info?
Bob's Burgers.
joe rogan
What's Bob's Burgers?
russell peters
Cartoon.
I did a voice on Bob's Burgers once.
unidentified
He's on Marin.
russell peters
He's on Marin?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's on Marin as a guest every now and then?
jamie vernon
For three seasons.
joe rogan
Oh.
russell peters
Was he on anything else?
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Comedy Bang Bang.
What is that?
russell peters
That's Reggie Watts' thing, wasn't it?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Scott Ockerman, I think.
joe rogan
Reggie Watts is on that new show where he's the band guy.
russell peters
Was it James Corden?
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have you watched that show?
russell peters
I haven't, no.
joe rogan
Good for you.
Stay away from that TV. Go read a book.
jamie vernon
He's on Everybody Loves Raymond.
russell peters
That's what it was.
joe rogan
Oh, he was?
Oh, okay.
Everybody loves Raymond.
Is the sitcom dead?
russell peters
The sitcom is dead as we know it, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Seems like it.
russell peters
Well, the traditional sitcom is dead.
joe rogan
Do you sit around thinking about things that you can do?
russell peters
I do all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah?
russell peters
I think about it all the time.
Ruben Paul and I have an idea for a show.
But we don't know which way to go.
joe rogan
Why don't you say it on the air so someone can steal it?
russell peters
Yeah, I know.
That's why I'm not saying it.
Well, it's my life, so you can't steal my life.
joe rogan
You could try.
russell peters
I know.
joe rogan
Aziz Ansari start gaining weight.
russell peters
You son of a bitch, how dare you?
I'm out of here!
joe rogan
I went there, motherfucker.
I don't give a shit.
I'm smoking a joint, even though you don't smoke pot.
How come you don't smoke pot?
What's that about?
russell peters
I didn't like the way I felt on it.
I didn't like feeling slow.
joe rogan
Makes you feel slow?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
How so?
russell peters
Like just dopey.
I felt like, like too mellow, which I didn't want to feel.
joe rogan
Are you sure you're smoking the right shit?
russell peters
I mean, you know, this was the 90s when I tried it.
joe rogan
The 90s?
The 90s, they hadn't figured out Sativa yet.
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
Maybe they did.
russell peters
There's no way to have it.
unidentified
They did.
joe rogan
They did figure it out.
russell peters
No.
You don't know shit.
Back then, it was either...
You either had Sess or...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
russell peters
Or fucking...
joe rogan
OG Kush.
Chronic.
russell peters
Not even.
I was in Toronto, so it was either Jamaican stuff or the Hydro stuff.
joe rogan
What about edibles?
russell peters
That's what fucked me up.
Oh, you went too deep.
I did an edible 11 or 12 years ago.
joe rogan
Yeah?
russell peters
One of those little two-bite brownies.
But I did not know you're supposed to only have one bite.
joe rogan
Oh, that's fucked up more people.
Like, eating too much edibles has fucked up more people with pot than probably anything ever.
russell peters
Yeah, I ate the whole brownie.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
And wanted to fucking die.
joe rogan
I'm sure you've seen the 9-11 video that was on YouTube of the cops that called 9-11 because there was a guy they pulled over.
He had some pot.
They stole the pot from him and made brownies with it and ate the brownies and thought the brownies were poisoned and thought they were dying.
Thought they were dead.
Time's moving really slow.
You ever seen that?
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
Fire that up, Jamie.
Find that, please.
It's hilarious.
It's fucking hilarious.
Because it's what happens.
Marijuana, I've said this before, so please forgive me if you've heard this and you're listening.
Marijuana, when you eat it, it's processed by your liver.
And it produces something called 11-hydroxy metabolite.
That's five times more psychoactive than THC. So there's THC, which you get when you smoke it.
And then when you eat it, it's a totally different drug.
And so when people go, oh my god, this is not pot, something's in this.
No, that's pot when you eat it.
Pot when you eat it is like a totally different dimension.
You open a different door, you go down a different hallway, you're in a different building.
You're like, this is not pot.
No, it's pot.
That's pot when you eat it.
russell peters
I was stuck to the bed, literally laying in a spread eagle.
joe rogan
Oh, the 911 call for the cops?
The cops called 911 for the...
It's a classic.
russell peters
And I was clinging.
I was literally...
My nails were...
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
I thought I was going to...
Like, the bed was going to fly.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've been there, dude.
russell peters
And I was...
All I could do was mumble.
I couldn't even muster words out of my mouth.
My tongue was dead.
It was...
joe rogan
It's my favorite way to be.
russell peters
Oh, it scared the shit out of me.
joe rogan
What I like about being there is that you always come back.
Like, you really think you're going to die, but you always come back.
And you're always fine.
And you come back.
Doc, here, listen to this.
unidentified
Pot brownie overdosed.
I think I'm having an overdose of my wife.
Okay, you and your wife?
Yes.
Overdose of what?
Marijuana.
I don't know if it had something in it.
Okay.
Can you please send rescue?
Okay, how old are you?
I'm 28, 29 years old and my wife is 26. Please come.
26?
Yes, please.
Have you guys been drinking also?
What?
Have you guys been drinking today too?
No, that's it.
Is there any weapons in the house?
No, please come.
Okay, we're on our way.
Are you guys like, do you guys have fever or anything?
No, I'm just...
I think we're dying.
How much did you guys have?
I don't know.
joe rogan
We made brownies, and I think we're dead.
unidentified
I really do.
Okay, how much did you put in the brownies?
I don't know.
Was it a bag?
Who made the brownies?
joe rogan
My wife and I did.
unidentified
Cuba, come here.
Okay, get her.
She's on the living room ground right now.
russell peters
Is she breathing?
Barely breathing.
unidentified
Is she awake?
joe rogan
I think so.
unidentified
Okay, can you look?
Pardon?
Can you look?
joe rogan
Can you look to see she's alive?
jamie vernon
She's laying right down in front of me.
unidentified
Time is going by really, really, really, really slow.
Okay, well, I'm on the phone with you.
Do you know how much of it you bought and put in the brownies?
Pardon?
How much did you buy?
I don't.
jamie vernon
Just please send rescue.
unidentified
They're on the way, but I'm trying to figure out how much you bought and put into the brownies, sir.
Probably like a quarter ounce total.
A quarter ounce total into the brownies?
Did you guys eat all the brownies?
Yeah, we did.
Okay.
Was it a big batch, a little batch?
It was a quarter ounce.
Okay, but brownie-wise, how many pieces do you guys think you guys had?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
unidentified
I probably had like a small chunk.
jamie vernon
Please come.
What time is it?
unidentified
It's 9.37.
When did you guys last eat the brownies?
Probably like an hour and a half ago Okay, is your wife still breathing?
Yeah, she is.
jamie vernon
She's sitting, she's kneeling down in front of me.
russell peters
She's moving.
unidentified
Okay.
I know.
We have to wait.
Okay.
And is she Stacy Sanchez?
jamie vernon
Yes.
unidentified
And what's your name?
My name is Edward.
You're Edward Sanchez?
Okay.
joe rogan
And did you guys have any other...
It goes on for a while.
But what's hilarious is the lady who answered the phone, she didn't even bother.
She didn't rush.
She knew they were fine because she was sober.
That's my favorite thing.
She just keeps asking questions.
If that was a gunshot wound, would she be asking so many questions?
russell peters
Where are you?
joe rogan
Yeah, if somebody blacked out, they think they had a heart attack, she wouldn't be asking so many questions with these pot dummies.
russell peters
One of my friends had one a couple years ago when he came out here to see us.
He had a cookie.
And when it hit him, he turned fucking so pasty white.
And he thought he was dying.
Same, same, exact same reaction.
I even called my doctor for him because, you know, I'm like, anything I could do?
He goes, no, just tell him to relax.
He's got to wear off.
That's all.
Drink some water.
joe rogan
You really feel like you're done, though.
You really do.
You really feel like, man, I really fucked up.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's over.
russell peters
Yeah, he was done.
joe rogan
What'd you get back?
russell peters
So what should I try?
joe rogan
Shouldn't try anything if you don't want to.
I mean, you're a happy guy.
russell peters
I'm a happy guy.
joe rogan
I would not look at you and say Russell Peters needs anything in his life other than what he's doing.
russell peters
I enjoy me some tequila.
joe rogan
I do too.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just the health consequences of that stuff are just so different than what happens with pot.
What happens with pot is, drumroll...
russell peters
Nothing.
joe rogan
Nothing.
You get high as fuck the next day, you go to the gym, you feel great.
Like, there's no health consequences.
If I get drunk and I've been drunk, I feel like shit the next day, man.
I just feel like shit.
russell peters
But what are you drinking?
joe rogan
Anything.
If I drink too much wine, I feel like shit the next day.
If I drink too much whiskey, I feel like shit the next day.
If I drink too much beer, I feel like shit the next day.
I work out, I can feel it, I feel like weakened.
russell peters
Tequila, I feel fine the next day.
joe rogan
You're a maniac.
russell peters
But that's all, just drink it straight.
joe rogan
Whoa.
That's a terrible advice.
He's giving this terrible advice to people.
russell peters
But the thing is, you don't have to have, like, fucking, you know, a ten of them.
You just have, you know, I have maybe two glasses.
I sip them all night.
joe rogan
Brian Regan takes a shot before every show.
He does one shot before every show.
russell peters
That seems like a damn good idea.
joe rogan
It's not a bad idea.
Because your body really doesn't have a hard time processing one shot of whiskey.
Like one shot of whiskey is like no big deal.
It's when you go like three, four, you have a beer, you have a fucking margarita.
russell peters
I don't mess around like that.
It's just straight tequila.
joe rogan
I'm a huge Hunter S. Thompson fan and one of the saddest things to me is watching Thompson from the time he was a really young man when he first started making it as a journalist and a writer to the way was as he got older and I think a big big part of it was the alcohol like he just drank so much booze that at the end he was almost incoherent he would go on Letterman and Conan O'Brien and you barely understood what he was saying And you just saw it.
It's like, that stuff will fucking get you.
russell peters
You know who always sounded drunk was Hitchens.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, he was drunk a lot.
russell peters
He did always sound drunk.
joe rogan
He was drunk a lot and he smoked cigarettes as well, which is just so unfortunate for such a brilliant guy.
russell peters
Yeah.
jamie vernon
You know?
joe rogan
He did smoke cigarettes, right?
russell peters
He sounded like he did.
joe rogan
Doug Stano, what does it say?
jamie vernon
Did you ever see his booze suit he had when he got on the cruise?
joe rogan
No.
jamie vernon
He snuck on all this alcohol.
joe rogan
How to smuggle booze on the cruise ship.
jamie vernon
He's wearing...
I don't know, liters of whiskey and vodka and mixers.
joe rogan
In those things?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he had it all like in bladders and tucked into small plastic bags.
russell peters
Stan Hope's so skinny now.
jamie vernon
See, you can't take this stuff on a cruise ship, I guess.
I've never been on one.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
russell peters
Actually, you can.
That's true.
joe rogan
Because they want you to buy their booze?
Is that what it is?
russell peters
Yeah, but they always have shit booze on board.
joe rogan
They do?
So look at this.
He's got a suit on.
Oh my god, with bags of whiskey.
This is so ridiculous.
jamie vernon
It's like someone in a movie when they're making jokes about like, give me all your guns, and they have them tucked everywhere.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is so ridiculous.
But he's ruining it for everyone now.
Oh, he's got it in his dick.
He's got a tequila tucked into his jockstrap.
Are you playing this?
Yeah, I have a little bit of it.
Oh my god, this is insane.
russell peters
Hilarious.
joe rogan
He had it in his socks.
A flask.
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
It's enough for a party of like 25 people probably.
joe rogan
Not for 25 Stanhopes though.
That's the difference.
I love him.
unidentified
We are ready for our Norwegian Cruise Line's Impractical Jokers Cruise.
russell peters
Hilarious.
unidentified
Smuggled alcohol.
jamie vernon
Drop trow.
joe rogan
I don't want to drop trow.
Drop trow.
She's just yelling at her.
Take his pants down.
I should announce this.
We're doing an end-of-the-world election night comedy podcast from the Comedy Store.
And it's gonna be Stan Hope and myself and Fitzsimmons is gonna do it.
We're probably gonna have some other people too.
And maybe Russell Peters.
I'll drop it.
Fuck yeah, bitch!
russell peters
What's the date?
joe rogan
Whatever the election day is.
Is that the third?
jamie vernon
It might be the 7th.
joe rogan
7th?
jamie vernon
I think the election's on the 8th, so this will be the day before.
russell peters
Oh, God.
joe rogan
This election's weird, man.
russell peters
It's a good time to be American, guys.
joe rogan
This is a weird one.
This is a weird one, because so many people just want to see it play out.
russell peters
Somebody tweeted, I forgot who it was, but it was hilarious.
They said, I can't wait to see the series finale of America.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
It really almost feels like it.
joe rogan
You're going to vote, right?
Yeah, I guess.
I'm going to vote for Gary Johnson, I think.
Even though he doesn't know what Aleppo is.
russell peters
You know, here's the thing.
When I heard them ask him that question, it sounded like they wanted to know what he thought about something called Lepo.
joe rogan
Oh.
russell peters
What do you think about a Lepo?
joe rogan
I think he said, what are you going to do about a Lepo?
russell peters
What are you going to do about a Lepo?
And he was like, I'm sorry?
I think the question just confused him.
joe rogan
Well, it's...
It's a really important thing to know if you want to be...
I mean, what has he been doing?
He's running for president now.
That takes up all of his time.
But how much was he doing when he was the governor of New Mexico as far as paying attention to world issues?
I don't know how much you have to.
You're no more than a regular person, right?
russell peters
It's always weird that we get these people running for president that are from states where you're like, do they think about the rest of the world there?
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
You know, Arkansas and New Mexico.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I think more people do now than ever before.
More people definitely think about the rest of the world now than they did, say, 20 or 30 years ago.
Just because we're in contact with people more, you know?
The Internet's giving people more ideas, more things to look up, more things to think about.
But, man.
Not knowing Aleppo.
You gotta know Aleppo.
russell peters
You know what's funny is?
joe rogan
I didn't know it.
russell peters
I didn't know it at the time.
joe rogan
I didn't know it.
I knew that there was tremendous issues in Syria, but I didn't know what the name of the city was.
russell peters
It sounded like a nickname for something.
joe rogan
Aleppo.
russell peters
And then, you know, being Indian, I was like, oh, I must be asking about Aleper.
joe rogan
There was the other one, though, where he didn't know any world leaders.
russell peters
Yeah, that's a problem.
joe rogan
That's a big problem.
russell peters
That's a bigger problem than not knowing Aleppo.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta be careful there, dude.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta have some people that you admire.
russell peters
Yeah.
Look up to somebody in your business.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think he said Angela Merkel, right?
Is that what he said?
jamie vernon
I think his vice president threw that out for him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Who's his running mate?
joe rogan
Some other dude.
jamie vernon
Bill Weld, former governor of Massachusetts Weld.
russell peters
Oh, Bill Weld.
joe rogan
Oh, that's his vice president?
I should know that.
I've almost, like, given up.
It's like I'm a Cubs fan.
It's like they're not gonna win, they're not gonna win, they're not gonna...
You know what I mean?
jamie vernon
They might win this year.
joe rogan
They might, I heard.
Bob Newhart's all excited.
He's 87. He said he's too old for this shit.
russell peters
I love Bob.
joe rogan
But those Cubs fans, man, they hang in there no matter what.
russell peters
I gotta support Toronto.
You know, it's my city.
joe rogan
I understand.
russell peters
Even though I don't know a damn thing about baseball.
joe rogan
But doesn't this seem like a...
It seems like a ridiculous sporting event?
I mean, it really almost does.
It's almost like, who can I demean and insult more to diminish them more contest?
Like, have you really thought like that about...
Like...
Part of it is like they go for the worst aspects of each other and they try to like do it on live TV. It's an ugly precedent to set for the country, you know?
russell peters
Especially, you know, when they try to justify it, I think, by looking at the rest of the world when they have elections and how it gets really violent in all these other parts of the world.
And, you know, you remember when some leaders, I don't forget what countries it is, but somewhere in Europe, the leaders get into fights with each other in their...
In their government offices.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, they have fucking crazy gang fights.
Yeah, there's one in some parliament or something like that.
Was it in China?
Was it in China?
russell peters
It might have been China or Korea.
I think it was Korea because I saw the guy throw a kick.
joe rogan
Oh, I think so.
And they went nuts on each other.
They started fucking kicking the shit out of each other.
russell peters
And then there was one in Ukraine, remember?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
russell peters
And Ukraine's not the place you want to do it.
What if, you know, Vitaly Klitsch goes to running, you're running against him, you know?
joe rogan
Ukraine people, they're cut from a different cloth.
All those people from that part of the world, there's something extra strong about them.
You know, just the robustness of the people.
russell peters
They're survivors.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, man.
It's cold as shit up there.
russell peters
Cold as shit, and they were repressed for so many years.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could take some dude who lives in Siberia, some man and his wife from Siberia.
russell peters
Look at Ruslan Provodnikov.
He's from Siberia.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
russell peters
He may not be the best at it, but he sure is the toughest at it.
joe rogan
Well, wasn't Karelin from Siberia as well?
Alexander Karelin, the wrestler?
russell peters
I could not confirm or deny this.
joe rogan
Do you know who that is?
russell peters
I do not.
joe rogan
Dude.
Maybe the scariest guy of all time.
In the history of Russian athletes, there's one guy who stands out.
The only wrestling match he lost in the Olympics was to Rulon Gardner.
I think that was the only in his entire amateur career.
And I might be wrong about that.
But...
I know he lost to him in the Olympics, and the only reason why he lost to him was like some new rule where if you separated the hands, it would be a point.
It was the first time that was ever in the Olympics.
So if you're, because they're Greco-Roman.
russell peters
Do they have gable grip in Greco-Roman?
joe rogan
They do a bunch of shit, but it's mostly upper body grappling and collar ties.
They don't shoot doubles.
It's like, it's a different style of wrestling.
And Corellin excelled at it, because he was this freak specimen.
But he's from Siberia, but he was like 6'3", 300 pounds.
Just a ridiculous guy.
And there's a picture of him hoisting this guy in the air.
And I have it in my gym.
I stare at it all the time.
Like if I ever take myself seriously, this picture right here.
If I ever want to know and really truly understand what a pussy I am...
I need to look at this picture of Corellin.
He's gritting his teeth, and he's hoisting this guy up in the air.
Dude, no mouth guard.
Look at the size of his fucking quads.
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I mean, he was a freak.
joe rogan
Giant calves.
russell peters
He was a freak.
joe rogan
And he fucking ragdolled dudes.
russell peters
How old is he now?
joe rogan
Well, he's a wrestling coach now.
I believe, if I had to guess, I would say he's probably 50. I bet you Bellator will sign him.
Dude, he almost went to MMA in the 1990s.
How old is he?
49. 49. So I'm close.
He almost went into MMA in the 1990s.
It may have been the early 2000s.
I think he was thinking about doing it.
Because I know there were some offers.
I feel like he did some pro wrestling thing.
I think he might have done some fake wrestling thing, like for money or something like that.
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But dude, he was a freak!
joe rogan
Just a freak.
And he would throw guys around in this really ridiculous way where they just, they were like little children.
Because he was a big giant dude, like look at the size of that motherfucker!
But he was also really agile.
Like these rolls that he could do, these dives, he was like so gentle in a lot of his movements, but freakishly strong.
So he had achieved this spectacular balance Of incredible technique, but ridiculous freakish human athletic ability.
So he had like the combination of those things.
Like look at his technique, everything is perfect, but he's also tremendously strong.
Like the Russian wrestling coaching.
The look on that guy's face.
Russian wrestling is incredibly technical.
Well, just the Eastern Bloc countries, they have a super high level of wrestling technical skill.
That's one of the reasons why George St. Pierre is so good, because he was training with these Russian nationals that came over and lived in Montreal.
That's where St. Pierre learned how to wrestle.
russell peters
Yeah, he has a solid base.
joe rogan
Dude, he's incredible.
russell peters
Is he coming back?
joe rogan
I don't know.
He keeps thinking about it and talking about it.
russell peters
I'm sure you've heard the rumors.
joe rogan
Yeah, well they're talking about like a super fight with Anderson.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know.
russell peters
In Toronto.
joe rogan
No one's told that to me.
russell peters
I've not heard that.
I mean, I've heard it, but I've not heard it from a human.
joe rogan
If I was George, and I was thinking right now, I think George St. Pierre is...
I mean, there's only a small handful of people as famous in the world of MMA as a fighter as George St. Pierre.
There's Conor, who's the most famous.
There's Ronda, who's right up there.
Ronda and Conor are almost interchangeable in my eyes.
As far as how famous they are.
Maybe more Conor because he's famous worldwide.
I don't know, man.
It's super close.
russell peters
I think Ronda affected her legacy by taking that year off.
joe rogan
Well, that doesn't matter.
If she comes back with a storm, she beats Amanda Nunes and gets the belt, she's bigger than ever.
russell peters
It's a tough one.
joe rogan
It's a very tough one, but if she does do it, she's bigger than ever.
She's got that, whatever it is, that dynamic personality that people get attracted to, and there's something about her losing, and maybe even losing like that, that could even make it more attractive to some folks.
You know, it makes her more human, makes her more vulnerable.
You know, one of the things that people didn't like about her was how confident and strong...
russell peters
She was very invincible at the time.
joe rogan
Well, and she was also, like, really aggressive about it with other girls.
But, you know, in her eyes, those girls were trying to take something from her.
Well, she was the Mike Tyson of MMA. The only way you get to be a champion is if you have that insane belief in yourself.
But when you lose the way she lost to Holly, which is a devastating knockout, it's always interesting to see how someone rebounds.
Some people rebound, they become better.
They come back tougher and stronger.
russell peters
That's what we're hoping for.
joe rogan
That's what you're hoping for.
Or some people come back, they fight smarter.
That was George St. Pierre.
When George St. Pierre got beaten up by Matt Serra, Matt Serra clobbered him.
Just clobbered him.
Clipped him, hurt him, got on top of him, mounted him, punched him in the face, made him tap.
He beat the shit out of him.
And George came back better than ever.
He just regrouped.
russell peters
But George also didn't take a year off in between there.
joe rogan
It's true.
It's true, but I don't know.
russell peters
And he didn't get on TV and, you know...
joe rogan
No, for sure.
russell peters
George is a different person, for sure.
I love Rhonda, but I'm hoping for her.
joe rogan
I'm a big fan of taking a long time off when you get knocked out.
russell peters
I get that.
I understand that.
joe rogan
I think it's real important.
russell peters
It is very important.
However, what you do in that time and how you present yourself in that time is also important.
joe rogan
Well, she didn't really do much.
She kind of laid low.
You know?
russell peters
She may have laid a little too low.
joe rogan
Nah.
Nah, I don't think so.
I see your point, but I disagree.
I think she can do whatever the fuck she wants.
russell peters
I mean, I don't know that it really affected her brand so much, but...
joe rogan
You sound like a marketing genius.
russell peters
That's what I'm just thinking about.
joe rogan
Dude, you should have a startup.
We should have a startup together.
russell peters
Let's do it.
What do you want to do?
Weed for people who don't do weed.
joe rogan
What do you think is wrong with taking a year off?
russell peters
Nothing's wrong with taking a year off, but you know that Ellen interview where she was talking about contemplating suicide?
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Oh, yeah.
russell peters
Forgot about that.
I mean, I think those are the things that showed the mental makeup, and that's where I think that's what's put the doubt in everybody's mind now.
joe rogan
If I had to do a Brendan Schaub right now, I'd say for sure don't do your first interview with Ellen on TV. Yeah, and cry.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
I think those TV formats, although I've done them and I enjoyed them, when you do those things, you can't be yourself in seven minutes.
It's not enough time.
russell peters
Especially if they don't know you.
joe rogan
And the people you're talking to don't know you either.
There's a giant crowd of people, and there's lights that say applause, and there's a guy who like...
russell peters
The clapping instead of laughing.
joe rogan
They had a warm-up guy who walks around.
russell peters
Come on, guys!
joe rogan
We're going live!
We're coming back live.
You guys are super excited.
We're excited to have you.
Thanks for all your enthusiasm.
We really appreciate it.
I'm just going to need it.
Let's just 10% more, folks.
Come on, we can do this.
russell peters
Yep.
Take whatever you got and add 30 to it.
joe rogan
Now, Rhonda, tell us about your head trauma and all these people.
I mean, it's bizarre.
It's bizarre.
It's a bizarre way to talk to people.
russell peters
I think what she should have done was talk to somebody in the fight game.
It would have been...
It would have been received a little bit better because then she would have been speaking to somebody knowledgeable about.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you know what, man?
She can do whatever she wants to do.
I don't know what was going on in her head during that time, but I don't think there's anything wrong with taking a year off, getting your head together.
And she also had some injuries she had to take care of.
russell peters
Do you think she should have changed her training camp?
joe rogan
I don't know what she's doing, honestly.
russell peters
Word on the street is she's still right back at Glendale Fight Club.
joe rogan
Listen, whether or not that guy Edmund has had success with some of his students or what issues they've had, you can't deny that he's worked wonders with her hands.
Her striking ability, when she was warming up for that Betch-Cohuea fight, and they were in Brazil, they were on the sand, and they're doing these pad drills together, she looked fantastic, right?
You look at her when she first started striking, you look at it until now, a big percentage of that is those two working together.
So there's no denying there's some merit to what he does, unquestionably.
He's definitely helping her.
You would have to examine the whole camp like a scientist.
You'd have to sit down.
To do this right, you've got a world-class, world-championship-level racehorse in a woman like Ronda Rousey, or any fighter for that matter.
If you were the overseer, if you were someone who could say, okay, what is the best course of this thing?
Well, you have to address technical issues.
You've got to address psychological issues.
You've got to address comfort, nutrition, all these different things.
You'd say, okay, technically, what are we trying to achieve?
Victory, right?
Like, what is her best options?
Like, is she training with the best kind of sparring partners?
And the thing is, you don't fucking know.
Like, one person can do it one way and be super successful, then everybody says, well, that's the way to do it.
You don't spar, and you only do drills, and then you ride bikes.
That's what Donald Cerrone's been doing.
Or you could go the Eddie Alvarez route, right?
Eddie Alvarez sparred like 150 rounds preparing for Rafael dos Anjos.
So he went the other route.
He just said, we're going fucking crazy.
We're going to go old school, crazy.
We're going to go in there and brawl and just be completely prepared to fight.
russell peters
But Cerrone doesn't continuously train without sparring, does he?
joe rogan
Yes.
russell peters
How long has he been doing that?
joe rogan
Since the fight with Dos Anjos.
He was talking about it.
He said, you take too much punishment in the gym.
He's like, you're taking too much punishment in sparring.
And he just, he had some issues where, I think he said he closed his eyes and the equilibrium was given out.
He was falling.
And he was like, what the fuck?
He realized it was, he found out later it was an inner ear issue, I think it was, right?
russell peters
Like a vertigo type thing.
joe rogan
Oh, it was a nose-clogging one that had affected his inner ear.
I think it was like an infection in some way.
So he decided, let's just do drills.
I know how to fight.
And he's had incredible results.
So I think some other guys are doing that too.
russell peters
But also, in the frequency that Cerrone fights it as well, he can probably get by without doing that because he's in the ring enough where he doesn't need to be in the ring extra.
joe rogan
I think you're right.
I think there's that too.
There's a comfortable balance.
And it's probably one of the reasons why he likes to fight so much.
russell peters
He's easily the most active fighter in the game.
joe rogan
He definitely tries to be.
But the problem also is right now, setting up the right fight for a guy like him is probably not that easy.
russell peters
Because he's always ready.
joe rogan
Well, he's always ready.
But setting up a fight for him, it's a high-profile fight, but it's also a dangerous fight.
So you've got to say, okay, who do you set him up with?
Because after you see what he did to Rick's story, you go, holy shit.
Donald at 170 is like some new thing.
He's a new thing.
He's way healthier.
It kills me to think that guy was starving himself for all those years.
russell peters
He's a big dude.
joe rogan
He's not small, but at 155, he just didn't have the durability.
And at 170, god damn, he's looking good.
It's amazing.
It's a crazy sport, isn't it?
russell peters
You know, I love it.
I love being there with those things.
And, you know, when you get to know the fighters and stuff and you hear a little inside talk and it's always interesting, you know?
joe rogan
I know it is, man.
russell peters
Because, you know, you realize when you meet them and you talk to them that they're just guys doing a job.
They're not looking at it as, I just want to be the toughest guy in the world.
They're like, I got to get more money out of this.
joe rogan
Well, there's definitely that aspect of it.
But there's also the guys that just want to go in there and be the toughest guy in the world as well.
russell peters
Those are usually the new guys.
joe rogan
Sometimes, yeah.
russell peters
Yeah.
The older guys are like, look, I already know I'm tough, and everybody else knows I'm tough.
Now I've got to monetize this.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's so many factors at play, you know, when it comes to fighting.
There's genetics, which play a giant role.
There's certain guys that are just built better for it.
They've just got a lucky roll of the dice.
And they have better...
The design of their body's better.
Their shape is better.
It works better.
They can hit you harder.
Their jaw's bigger.
They can take more punishment.
russell peters
They've got genetics on their side.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's always going to be guys like that.
So you're seeing guys like that now, but then you're seeing the mental aspect of it.
How many guys have mental coaches now and hypnotists and shit?
russell peters
It's such a weird game now.
Dude, it's interesting.
Any fight sport now is very different than it was.
In the 80s, when I was training boxing, there was no nutrition.
There was no...
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
I think I might have said it before.
My coach would get to the gym, my coach would be like, go run.
And I'm like, I just want to box.
He's like, no, you've got to go run.
And then I would be like, all right.
And I go, where do I run to?
And he goes, run up to Torbram and Seven and come back.
And I'm like, all right.
And right at that intersection was a McDonald's, just a little bit down.
So I would run to the McDonald's and get a milkshake, and then I would walk back.
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Yeah.
russell peters
Because I made sure I ran there as fast as I could.
joe rogan
To get a milkshake.
russell peters
So I could walk back.
And then I would run maybe in the last half.
So I would be sweating and a little bit out of breath when I got there.
joe rogan
What do you think about this Amanda Nunes, Ronda Rousey fight?
russell peters
Amanda's a...
Dude, she's a beast.
joe rogan
She's badass.
russell peters
She's badass.
I mean, I would feel more comfortable if she was coming back against Misha or even a rematch against Holly, but Amanda scares me, dude.
joe rogan
Before Holly knocked out Ronda, I had said that I just thought Holly Holm needed more fights in the UFC, like more people to know who she is.
I go, and I think Amanda Nunes is the more dangerous fight.
Because Amanda Nunes is a black belt in jujitsu.
And she hits fucking hard, man.
russell peters
She looks like she hits like a dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, she hits so much harder than most of the women in that division.
She's super aggressive.
russell peters
She's got shorter arms and she looks like she can crank.
joe rogan
You know, this whole Cyborg thing.
Everybody wants Cyborg to fight in the UFC. They're trying to set up a fight with Ronda.
russell peters
I would like Cyborg to fight Nunes.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was just thinking that.
If Nunez could pack on some weight.
So the thing about Cyborg is she struggles to get to 40. She's so drained when she gets to 40. Is there a weight class above that?
There should be.
There should be a 145. Yeah, or even a 150. They should just give her the title at 145. Who is denying that she's the toughest 145-pound woman on the planet?
Who's denying that?
russell peters
There's no one.
I think there's a shit ton of fights waiting to happen at 145, 150 even.
joe rogan
When Victor has a whole 145-pound division, a bunch of them were messaging me.
They were tweeting at me after we were talking about bringing...
russell peters
And Victor's still around?
joe rogan
Yeah, the UFC owns it.
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They do.
russell peters
Of course they do.
joe rogan
I think they own part of it or something, or it's on Fight Pass or something along those lines.
But, yeah, man, she's a destroyer, you know?
Cyborg is a destroyer.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's so terrifying.
Watch the way she attacks these chicks.
Like, that's the 145-pound world champion.
russell peters
And she looks like Mickey Rourke, so...
joe rogan
I think she's a little prettier than Mickey Rourke, bro.
You're being rude.
russell peters
I meant the lips.
joe rogan
I can't take this.
I can't take this.
russell peters
I'm going to tweet to her after and apologize.
joe rogan
Apologize now.
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Because I don't want Cyborg kicking the shit out of me.
joe rogan
But what's interesting is, I wonder if there's a 55. Is there a 55 pound division to be had?
russell peters
I think maybe one...
I'd go up to 148, 150 at the most, I would say.
joe rogan
Hmm.
I wonder.
Because, you know, I think Cyborg's...
One of her coaches was saying that if you really gave her the right division, it would be 155. Like, that would be the division where she would feel the healthiest.
Because I think she walks around at like 170-something.
russell peters
Probably.
But she's all muscled, you know?
It's not like she's...
She's not walking around like me.
She's walking around all muscled.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's yoked.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
But Amanda Nunez is not that big.
She's not as big as her.
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
So that would be...
You know, it wouldn't be the wisest fight.
Because Amanda Nunes is like a legitimate 135 pounder.
But she's a 135 pounder that hits like a dude.
russell peters
And she's very solidly built.
She's very...
It's all very compact.
joe rogan
Did you see her fight with Kat Zingano?
russell peters
I did not.
joe rogan
Did you see how fucking ferocious Kat Zingano is?
Because she had Kat Zingano hurt in the first round.
And she was getting beat up.
Like real bad.
The first round was real bad for Kat.
And she made it out of that round, and she stopped her in either the second or the third.
I can't really remember.
See if you can remember that.
Or, uh, you don't remember it.
I want to say she stopped her in the third.
But it was just this brutal fucking exchange, and she eventually beat Amanda Nunes.
Katzengana's also knocked out Misha Tate.
People forget about that.
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Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Kat Singano's a beast.
What's that?
Third round TKO. So Kat stopped Amanda in third round.
Yeah, but the first round, dude, she had to survive.
She was getting beat the fuck up.
russell peters
And that's all stand-up.
joe rogan
Well, I think she got cracked in the stand-up, and I think most of it was ground and pound on the ground, if I remember correctly.
Amanda, as far as her punches from the outside, she's got amazing snap.
She really knows how to be in the right position, and she drops full snapping punches on girls.
She really turns her knuckles over.
russell peters
She knows her distance.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, she cracks people.
She cracks Sarah McMahon.
You see that fight?
russell peters
I did not.
Dude.
You know, a lot of times I catch, I jump in somewhere right around three fights before the main event or two fights before the main event.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're one of those cool guys.
russell peters
No, I watch the prelims and then I get fucked up when I have to change a channel because I'm like, where did it go?
How am I finding this, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, when you're there live, though, do you go for the whole event?
russell peters
I do.
I do get there very early.
joe rogan
Yeah, the live event is a different animal, right?
Everybody should see a UFC live once.
russell peters
I always try and get your attention, but I'm on the wrong side of the octagon.
joe rogan
Just come over and grab me, man.
russell peters
Oh, that'll stop me, sir.
You can't go this way.
And I'm like, alright.
joe rogan
Well, next time, come with me.
I'll hook it up.
russell peters
I see the seats.
I see the seats you get.
And I'm like, where are you?
And they're like, oh, I'm with Joe.
And I'm like, fuck, that's a good seat.
joe rogan
You could do that.
We could do that.
We'll hook it up.
How about Toronto?
russell peters
I'm in.
joe rogan
Are you going to be there for that one?
russell peters
What is it, December 10th?
joe rogan
Something like that.
I'm doing a show with Big Jay Oakerson.
russell peters
Oh, I love Jay.
joe rogan
At Massey Hall.
russell peters
Can I host it?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
russell peters
That's it.
joe rogan
Russell Peters, Big J, and me.
You heard it here, folks.
russell peters
I'll host that.
joe rogan
It's like December 9th or whatever it is, the day before the UFC. Yeah.
Tickets are not on sale yet.
They'll be on sale like in a week.
russell peters
December.
joe rogan
Yeah, that'll be fun, dude.
The three of us, that'll be a good old time.
russell peters
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
That'll be real fun.
But what were we just talking about?
Oh, the Amanda Nunes-Ronda Rousey fight.
But if Ronda gets her to the ground, man, it could get super interesting.
russell peters
I would just like to see one tune-up fight.
joe rogan
No, no tune-up fights.
This is not boxing.
The UFC doesn't give tune-up fights.
russell peters
No, they don't.
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Fuck.
joe rogan
It's just mountain after mountain.
russell peters
You know what I will say, though, that the women have proven to have far more resilience than the men.
A lot of times they're just fucking their willingness to not tap and their willingness to to get in there and I prefer to not compare them Gender to gender because I'm not one of those people.
joe rogan
I just want to let you know that I just objectified them in my own I think I mean not no need no need need to even compare them to the men what I'll say is there's Amazing athletes and amazing champions in both the men and the women's division legitimately legitimately now Like, there's no denying that there's world-class talent.
But there's also no denying that the highest levels of male talent, there's a bigger pool.
But that's natural, because there's more men that are interested in competing in MMA than women.
russell peters
Primarily a male-dominated sport.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the women's side is growing.
And you're getting a lot of, like, really high-level Muay Thai fighters, like Valentina Shevchenko, who's a multiple-time world champion, who comes over, and now she's fighting.
And she just beat Holly Holm.
She beat Holly Holm.
And she really, like, outclassed her with stand-up.
That was a big aspect of that fight.
russell peters
I did see that, and that was a big shock for me.
I thought Holly would outbox her.
joe rogan
No, Valentina's nasty, dude.
She's got that beautiful check right hook, and she's real sneaky with her leg kicks.
She's got excellent timing.
She's a really dangerous fighter for anybody in that division, because if you can't take her to the ground, it's highly unlikely that you're going to stand with her and not get cracked.
You're going to start getting real apprehensive about your movements.
Because she throws that beautiful check right hook, or at least she did with Holly.
russell peters
She counters well.
joe rogan
Dude, she's just a real high-level striker.
And if you can't get her to the ground, and even if you can get her to the ground, like she's been working on her ground game, and she's very strong.
So there's suit, like that fight right there.
russell peters
Isn't she due for a title shot, though?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, she is.
I'm sure.
She's fighting Misha.
No, who the fuck is she fighting?
russell peters
She is fighting Misha, I think.
joe rogan
Misha's fighting somebody in Madison...
No, Misha's fighting Rachelle Pennington.
russell peters
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, Raquel Pennington and Misha are fighting...
russell peters
In New York?
joe rogan
In New York City, yeah.
Raquel Pennington's another one.
She doesn't get enough respect.
She's dangerous.
Super aggressive, really good timing.
Really good timing with her hands in particular.
russell peters
Are you doing those ones?
joe rogan
Yeah, the Madison Square Garden one, for sure.
russell peters
MSG, New York, and New Year's Eve.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Like, for me, like, a fight like the Misha Tate-Holly Holm fight, that's about as exciting a fight as you're ever going to see.
It's about as exciting a fight as you will ever see.
And the fact that there was a round in there where not much was happening, a round or so, where not much was happening, where Holly was trying to avoid Misha and was just striking on the outside, that made the ending even more spectacular.
Like, the lull in that actually made the fight better in the end.
russell peters
Because it looked like Holly was going to cruise to a victory.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And out of nowhere.
russell peters
And then Misha dug deep.
joe rogan
It's one of my all-time favorite moments.
russell peters
And then fucking Holly did not fuck you.
She's like, fuck you, I'm not tapping.
joe rogan
She went to sleep throwing punches.
Oh my god.
russell peters
And it looked like one of those puppets.
joe rogan
Gangster.
So gangster.
The whole fight, so gangster.
And that was in the same card where Nate Diaz beat Connor.
I mean, that was one of the main reasons why I decided to stay doing commentary, that card.
Because I was on the fence.
I was like, maybe I should just stop doing it and then just devote more time to doing other stuff.
russell peters
Were you offered the Bisping Hendo fight?
joe rogan
No, I told them I'm not doing the ones that are overseas.
russell peters
That's such a good fight.
joe rogan
It was amazing.
I enjoyed it.
I watched it at home.
I watched it here.
We watched it here.
We did a fight companion.
russell peters
Did part of you wish you could have been there to commentate that one?
joe rogan
Nah.
russell peters
I mean, the fight companions are great, but I'm saying...
joe rogan
No, no.
russell peters
I just think you would have added...
joe rogan
I think Brian Stan's awesome.
russell peters
I think Brian Stan's great.
joe rogan
He takes a lot of shit from people that just don't like things that are different, or they just pick a side or something like that, but I love his commentary.
russell peters
I like Brian, I like Kenny, I like everybody doing it, but, you know, you're that thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they could be that thing, too.
You know who's really good is Dominic Cruz.
Dominic Cruz is very good.
Very good, especially from the technical aspect.
And so is Daniel Cormier.
russell peters
Yeah, I do like both of them when they do it for fun.
joe rogan
Well, Cormier's also spent so much time doing the behind-the-desk stuff now that he's gotten real comfortable with expressing himself in poetic and interesting ways.
You know, when he's describing fights and fights, he gets hyped up about it.
He's got great emotion to it.
It's entertaining as well as informative.
Yeah, he's fighting Rumble.
russell peters
Rematch.
That's an exciting fight.
joe rogan
The Rumble man's coming.
He's so scary.
russell peters
He is a very scary fucking guy.
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He's so scary.
russell peters
I've seen him at the fights just in the audience and I smiled because I acknowledged like, hey man.
And he did not fucking smile back.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker, that Rumble.
russell peters
But it wasn't like I hate you.
It was just like, fuck you smiling at him.
joe rogan
No, he's a good guy, man.
Rumble's a good guy.
russell peters
He's a very good guy.
joe rogan
I don't know him like that, but I gave him a smile and a nod and I got a It's almost like he's got different Kind of bones like everybody else has bones.
russell peters
He reminds me of Bruce Seldon the way he looks No, man look like his face.
I know I don't know why I just look at him I always picture Bruce Seldon.
joe rogan
That's weird.
russell peters
Maybe you're a racist kind of a bum.
No, absolutely.
You know, I'm a racist Of course I am.
I hate everybody I hate everybody. - Okay.
joe rogan
No, Rumble is a unique specimen.
It's just so hard to believe that he was a 170-pounder for so long and was killing himself to make that 170. Goes up to 205 and is one of the scariest guys ever.
He's one of the scariest guys of all time.
russell peters
I don't even know how he made 170. How the fuck did he make 170?
I don't know.
That's a young man's thing.
There's Anthony.
joe rogan
Yeah, he doesn't look anything like Bruce Seldon, though.
russell peters
Get a shot of Bruce Seldon, let's see.
Maybe not that picture.
joe rogan
Not at all.
russell peters
You're a racist.
I'm not kidding.
There's a picture of Bruce Seldon where he looks really dark, and that's not it.
Look at that picture up there on the right.
See the one where he's wearing the red and white trunks?
Yeah, see?
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
No, you're racist.
russell peters
That's me, guys.
joe rogan
But we've got to remember, Rumble survived that storm the first time.
You know, the first fight that Rumble and DC had.
Cormier survived.
Cormier survived that storm and then put his own storm on Rumble, you know?
Cormier is such a world-class wrestler.
His sparring partner is fucking Cain Velasquez.
And the other one is Luke Rockhold.
So on a daily, he's sparring with those fucking guys.
russell peters
And they go hard in AK. Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's arguably one of the best wrestlers to ever compete in MMA. There's like a handful of guys you look at as being in contention for being the best wrestler to ever compete in MMA. Henry Cejudo, of course, Olympic gold medalist.
There's a few guys, but Cormier's in that mix.
He's in the mix.
russell peters
I mean, they all give each other something else.
joe rogan
And I think that fucking AKA camp, where it's him and Kane, and they're just smashing heads together all the time.
russell peters
You know, it's funny, when I'm up in Northern Cali, I'll call whoever, and I'm like, hey, I'm out here, and they're like, do you want to come train?
And I'm like, no, no.
They're like, do you want to come train at AK? No, thanks.
I'll call Gil, and he's like, do you want to come by Scrap Pack and train?
I'm like, no, I'm good, buddy.
joe rogan
Fuck all that.
russell peters
I'm like, yeah, my level is not anywhere near anybody's level.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm just trying to get someone to hold pads.
russell peters
Yeah, I'm a 46-year-old man.
I'm a chubby fucking Indian guy.
I'm not trying to...
joe rogan
It's fun to be around those places, though.
russell peters
Yeah, that's what does you in.
You go in, you see everybody, you go, yeah, I'm not built for this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
I'm a hobbyist.
These guys are lifers.
joe rogan
You have to have the most insane dedication, I think, for any athletic endeavor.
russell peters
I think below 40, and I would have gone and trained with them, but I didn't know them then, so...
joe rogan
Well, it's just a weird thing to dabble in.
Like, dabbling in MMA, you really can't do it.
You have to be...
Unless you're some freak athlete.
There's always exceptions.
There's always people that just have ridiculous...
Like, apparently, that's what John Jones was for the longest time before he moved to Albuquerque.
He would take time off and go back to New York and, you know, train some out there, but not train with anybody like the people he's training with, you know, before his fights.
russell peters
Everybody's out there in Albuquerque now training out there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he moved there.
And then once he moved there, I mean, I think everything went up to the next level.
But he was a guy that could take all that time off, come back and still fuck everybody up.
Just a freak athlete.
russell peters
Is he coming back?
joe rogan
Talented as well.
russell peters
Did they lift his ban?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I don't think they sentenced him.
I don't know if he got sentenced.
russell peters
They sentenced Connor $150,000 for a fucking water bottle.
joe rogan
Yeah, that seemed a little excessive.
russell peters
Yeah, a tiny bit, huh?
joe rogan
Why'd they do that?
russell peters
It's not like he's a habitual bottle thrower that, you know, like, we are finally punishing you for this.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sick of all that bottle throwing, bro.
It is a stupid thing to do, though.
I mean, come on, do you really think he was gonna hit him?
You know?
It's too far away, it wasn't...
russell peters
I thought it was just hype for the fight, you know?
Yeah, it is just hype for the fight.
It's not like he threw a glass bottle, he threw a fucking water bottle.
joe rogan
He refuses to fight in Las Vegas after a $150,000 fine.
russell peters
That's fair enough.
joe rogan
Well, it's a good thing to get the Vegas people to recognize there's consequences to this, but the UFC is so big right now, they sell out no matter who's fighting.
Yeah, these 50 hours of community service.
Wow, 50 hours is a real week.
It's a week worth of work.
What the fuck's he got to do?
russell peters
Yeah, I don't know.
That's fucking ridiculous.
joe rogan
Well, you know, they're flexing.
People, they like flexing.
They really shouldn't have thrown water bottles at each other or monster energy drinks or whatever they did.
That shit's stupid.
You're going to fight eventually and throw things at each other.
russell peters
You know, you get a little amped up.
They're young kids, you know?
joe rogan
But ultimately, I think the $150,000 fine is worth it for them.
The amount of money that they all made, that everybody made.
So the government, the athletic commission gets to step in, slap them a little bit, take a little cash, make a stink out of it.
They get to protest it.
But the fact is that that press conference where he threw that water bottle at Nate Diaz is probably worth $400,000.
As far as profit.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
You know, how many more people got hyped up for it?
People love a fight at a press conference.
They love when someone throws...
Don't do it, folks.
If you're listening, Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier, that was one of the reasons why that fight became such a big deal.
Because at the face-off...
russell peters
But did they have to pay any fines after that?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, they did.
Yeah, they did.
I don't know how much they paid.
Well, maybe that's what the problem is.
Maybe they want to discourage anybody from doing this further.
Maybe they want to say, look...
russell peters
It's as old as any fight game is.
joe rogan
And it's also real.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
The John Jones one in particular was fucking real.
When Daniel put his hand on John's neck and pushed him back, John was like, fuck that.
That's just not happening.
He didn't give a shit if there was a million people around.
He was only fined $50,000.
So John was fined $50,000 and was ordered to complete 40 hours of community service, and Cormier was fined $9,000 in order to complete 20 hours of community service.
So they made a distinction that Cormier was less guilty than John.
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But Cormier touched him first.
russell peters
Did he?
joe rogan
Yeah, he grabbed his neck and pushed him back because John got face to face with him and touched faces with him.
The fines constituted 10% of each fighter's respective purse for the January 3rd fight.
Wow, does that even make sense?
That's how little they made?
Does that really make sense?
90 grand, really?
For the title fight?
That sounds crazy.
I don't know what their deal is because they get paid and then they have like they have like a reported pay and then they have a different pay like percentage of pay-per-view and a bunch of different stuff.
russell peters
But they always show it in the papers.
joe rogan
They don't show locker room bonuses.
I don't know what that means.
russell peters
They do show that.
joe rogan
Don't get mad at me.
russell peters
They show it where?
Every time I go to Yahoo News it tells you the whole purse breakdowns for everybody.
And then the bonus for the nightly bonus and the percentage bonus.
joe rogan
No, they do performance of the night bonuses that make that public, but they also do some weird locker room bonus thing.
russell peters
Oh, I don't know about that.
joe rogan
I don't know what the fuck that's all about.
russell peters
What did they just find?
joe rogan
It's a private company is the point.
russell peters
Didn't they just find Roy as well?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're gonna find him.
What did they say?
What did you just put up?
jamie vernon
As Jones' attorney was arguing that they shouldn't be paying off a percentage of their purses, and Cormier is scheduled to make a base pay of 90 for the fight and also a possible 90,000 win bonus.
russell peters
Hmm.
joe rogan
It just seems like a really low amount.
It feels like that's not right.
russell peters
It's 10%.
joe rogan
I know it is so low to be fighting for the world title.
It seems wrong.
I mean, it seems incorrect.
It seems wrong, too, right?
russell peters
It's always seemed wrong to me.
joe rogan
At the highest levels, those guys are making some serious cash now.
What's interesting is how many people are going to reach that level.
And what you're seeing is a lot of people that are trying to sort of generate public interest the same way Conor's done.
So there's like guys who really never really trash talked before who are really into trash talking now.
russell peters
Yeah, they're not good at it either.
joe rogan
It's awkward and it's uncomfortable.
And here's the thing is, if you're a Conor McGregor and it comes natural and that's what you do, that's one thing.
But if you're like you've got a strategy and your strategy is to be the controversial guy and you're going to get everybody to pay attention to you like that's a lot of work man.
russell peters
I mean Nate is what Nate is.
joe rogan
Yeah exactly.
So on one hand it's also not what martial arts are at their best.
Like, at the very best, they're two guys who want to compete and test themselves against each other at the very highest level, right?
And when we think of a martial artist, we don't think of some dude who's insulting someone and spitting at them and throwing water bottles.
russell peters
Yeah, I mean, they're trying to take the thug aspect out of it, which is fair.
Because, you know, when you think back to it, it was always Bruce Lee, everybody respecting and bowing.
Mm-hmm.
Now it's just a lot of meatheads who know how to fight.
joe rogan
There's definitely that too, but to achieve the level of a world-class level, you have to have so much control over who you are.
You have to be able to figure out where all your personality pitfalls are and soothe out all the bullshit in your life and concentrate on the work.
It's such a weird sport, man.
There's no sport that carries the consequences of loss like MMA does.
russell peters
Boxing as well, I would say.
joe rogan
Boxing's pretty close.
But MMA, like...
russell peters
I think in MMA you can have a loss and still come back and it doesn't affect you that much.
joe rogan
You think it does in boxing?
russell peters
In boxing, because, you know, it's so fucking shady in boxing.
Oh, he lost.
No good.
We need somebody else.
An undefeated record in boxing means a lot more than it does in MMA. Well, there's only been a few, right?
Right.
joe rogan
That's what everybody strives for.
They strive for that Gernati Golovkin, you know, perfect, undefeated record as they go into the big fight, you know?
But that didn't harm Canelo.
I think Canelo's stock rose in the Floyd Mayweather fight.
russell peters
Yeah, because he was so young.
And I was at that fight, as a matter of fact, and I think that Floyd could have stopped Canelo in that fight if he really wanted to.
joe rogan
You think so?
russell peters
Yeah, he was just hitting him at will.
And you could see Canelo going back.
I mean, all he had to do was just put a little bit more pressure on him.
But I think Floyd, being somewhat compassionate, was like, if I stop this kid, it might ruin his career.
joe rogan
Wow, you really think that?
russell peters
I think that.
joe rogan
Wow, that's an interesting way of looking at it.
I didn't think so.
I thought he's not taking any chances.
He's boxing smart.
And Canelo can still pop.
And he carries that pop late into the fight.
And he's dangerous.
So if Floyd opened up...
To try to really hurt him and stop him, he ran the risk of being countered.
Canelo's a master.
Canelo's not as fast as Floyd, but his timing's really good.
russell peters
It is, but at that time he was still very green.
And Floyd really was in the zone in that fight.
He was just hitting him, pop, pop, pop, pop.
And then he would crank a right hand on him.
You see Canelo go back a little bit.
I think Canelo's chin's a little overrated.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
We saw that when...
Who the fuck knocked him down in the first or second round in that one fight?
joe rogan
Yeah, somebody knocked him down fairly recently, right?
russell peters
No, maybe about...
joe rogan
Four or five fights ago?
russell peters
Maybe about three, four years ago.
joe rogan
Yeah?
russell peters
It was a younger Canelo then, but...
Do you know what I'm talking about?
joe rogan
No, I definitely don't think he has a bad chin, but anybody can get knocked down, especially early in your career.
Especially aggressive guys.
russell peters
I've also heard that Canelo sparred with Golovkin before.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
russell peters
Golovkin beat the piss out of him in sparring, and that's why he's...
joe rogan
Saying, no thanks.
russell peters
Not interested in that fight.
I think he's just trying to sharpen up his skill set before he gets back in there with him.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
I don't know how much...
russell peters
I mean, Triple G knocked down Kovalev in sparring.
joe rogan
Did he?
I had heard that.
russell peters
Yeah, even Kovalev said it.
He goes, you know, he hits really hard because I wasn't prepared that day.
joe rogan
Wow.
russell peters
He said they're also very good friends as well.
joe rogan
Golovkin's a scary guy because he looks like some cute little boy band.
russell peters
Yeah, he does not look like he can.
He doesn't even look like he throws with power.
joe rogan
He looks like he's from a Russian boy band.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right, he's so cute.
russell peters
He's just so goofy, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's adorable.
And if you look at his body, it's not the scariest body.
russell peters
It's just, he's not chiseled, it's just, he's a thin guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, like, you see Rumble knocking people out, you look at his body, you go, well, that makes sense.
You know?
You see Golovkin knocking people out, and you go, wow, where's all that coming from?
russell peters
I don't, he doesn't have huge legs, he doesn't have particularly big traps, he's...
joe rogan
He's got flawless, yeah, look at him there.
He's got flawless technique, though.
Flawless.
russell peters
He had over 300 amateur fights.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's so aggressive, too.
He's so fucking...
He's so aggressive, and he keeps a pace on guys.
That's very difficult to handle.
russell peters
And he also...
You know, people go, oh, he's beatable.
I'm like, I just think he does things for the fight game.
Like, I know I can knock you out.
I'm just going to let you...
I'm going to extend this a little bit, just to give people a...
Yeah, that's all what says it, too.
But you see him do it.
You can see, like, he basically just, you know...
I'm going to make it look like I'm going to get comfortable with you.
But you know at any point, he's like, alright, goodnight, goodnight.
And he could do it at any point.
joe rogan
Well, he definitely, if he wants to risk getting hit, but he bleeds guys.
He saps them.
He's a left hooker to the body.
He stays on guys with combinations, and he's always pressing forward.
You never rest with that guy.
russell peters
Yeah, he doesn't move back very often.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a really interesting style.
Because another guy who's got a crazy style like that is Vasily Lomachenko.
russell peters
Oh, Lomachenko's probably one of the best fighters in the game right now.
joe rogan
It's insane!
russell peters
He's fighting Nicky Walters.
Is that his name?
I don't know who he's fighting.
Nicholas Walters, the Jamaican kid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
That's going to be a good fight.
joe rogan
Well, he's another guy that, like, if you wanted to see beautiful technical movement and defensive movement in boxing...
russell peters
When I was training with Arizo, we would go to train at Robert Garcia's gym.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
russell peters
And Lomachenko would be there every now and then.
joe rogan
There he is.
Like, look at this.
russell peters
He's a little guy, too.
joe rogan
He's just standing right in front of people, beating them up, and slipping everything they throw at him.
God, he's so good.
russell peters
Slick and accurate.
joe rogan
Look at that.
russell peters
Moves just enough.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Look at this, like knowing exactly what's coming and when.
Damn.
He's a really interesting fighter as well because he's so hard to hit, but he's also so aggressive.
It's weird.
Like that's not...
russell peters
Hands down.
Look at that.
Hands down.
joe rogan
But he's lost in boxing and pro boxing.
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Yeah.
joe rogan
He lost to that Mexican dude.
Fuck's his name.
Who do you lose to?
Old warrior.
Veteran.
Solis?
russell peters
Omar Solis?
Orlando Solito.
joe rogan
Orlando Solito?
That's right.
russell peters
Solito's a warrior, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, a guy who's been around forever.
Yeah, there it is.
That's who he's fighting next?
russell peters
Yeah, Nicholas Walters.
joe rogan
Well, he's definitely putting some attention on these lighter divisions.
russell peters
But it was a split decision, so I mean, you know, whenever it's a split decision, you could be like, could have gone either way.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was apparently a crazy war, and he wants to fight him again.
russell peters
Do you think Hendo Bisping should have been a draw or a split decision?
joe rogan
I think the scoring system sucks.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some people said that that first round wasn't a 10-8 round.
russell peters
That was more than a 10-8.
That might have been a fucking 10-7 round.
joe rogan
It's definitely a 10-8 for sure.
Because he knocked him down.
He had him rocked.
He was standing on top of it.
And Bisping survived for sure.
I mean, Bisping showed true grit.
He got through that.
He pressed on.
But...
He was in a world of shit, and I think he would admit it.
His face shows it.
I mean, he's all beat up.
So that's a significant round.
And then there was another round where Hendo knocked him down again, right?
russell peters
Yep.
So that was the second or third?
joe rogan
It's hard to tell, man.
But the other thing that balanced that out was that Bisping was way more active.
And you gotta take that into account.
It's not like Bisping was landing all those shots and attacking because Hendo let him.
No, it's because he was imposing his game on Henderson.
The question is like, is Henderson's game more impactful?
Well, maybe, but there's less impacts.
Okay, well, how about damage?
Well, damage-wise, Hendo was way ahead.
russell peters
This guy gave Bisping the first round?
joe rogan
Who did?
russell peters
The first judge, White.
joe rogan
No fucking way.
jamie vernon
Yeah, look.
The first round is the top row.
This is the second round right here.
Oh, okay, okay.
russell peters
Look, even that guy gave the first round.
jamie vernon
These two gave it to him.
The only round they gave Henderson was the second round, these two judges.
I'm sorry, the first two rounds.
joe rogan
He made the first round a 10-9, 10-9, 10-9.
russell peters
They all made it a 10-9.
joe rogan
They all made it a 10-9.
See, that's not smart.
That's not smart.
That's not right.
russell peters
The minute there's a knockdown like that, it's got to be a 10-8 round.
joe rogan
It's not just a knockdown.
A knockdown in boxing makes a 10-10 round, a 10-9 round, or a 10-8 round.
If they're evened up, it'll make it a 9-9 round.
But for the most part, it's a 10-8 round, right?
When a guy knocks a guy down.
russell peters
You knock a guy down.
First you won the round, then you got the knockdown.
joe rogan
But it's a fact.
There's no facts in MMA when it comes to that.
There's no, like, one thing that happens where you definitely take a point off.
We know that with boxing, right?
Well, with MMA, that wasn't just a knockdown.
There was a knockdown and then followed by some fucking ferocious, hair-raising ground and pound.
He got elbowed.
He got punched.
He got beat up.
He got out of there.
His face is bleeding.
His eyes closed.
You can't say that wasn't close to being stopped.
russell peters
Yeah, you've got to be on the brink of being stopped.
joe rogan
So that round I disagree with across the board.
And then it's trying to figure out who won the other rounds.
There was the other one where Hendo heard him.
What round was that?
Was it the second round that he heard him again?
russell peters
It must be.
I think so, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, the second round he heard him again.
And then you have to argue about the fourth and the fifth rounds.
You have to figure out who won those.
It was a close fight, but I could see the way many people thought that Bisping landed more, and even though they weren't as impactful, you have to add that up against the lower volume but more power by Henderson.
russell peters
It's about effectiveness, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, Henderson at the end of the fight looked like he just got done sparring.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Bisping looked like he just got done with a fight with Henderson.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
That's really what it looked like.
He went through five rounds with one of the toughest fucking guys ever.
The question is, who won it?
I think the system's flawed.
I could see under the system that we have today that Bisping won that fight.
I could see it by volume.
russell peters
I could see it as a draw.
I could see it as a fair draw.
I could see that too.
And that would have been a very fair outcome.
joe rogan
I could see that too.
russell peters
Because I don't think Bisping did enough to beat Dan, and I don't think Dan did enough to beat Bisping.
joe rogan
That's a good argument.
It's a real good argument.
And I think if there's ever a fight where you could say a draw might be justified, that's one.
If you look online, like people who think Bisping won versus people who think Henderson won, it's pretty much split down the middle, except English people.
russell peters
Of course.
joe rogan
Even American people.
There's a lot of American people that think Bisping won.
So it's...
It's a flawed system.
The system of judging is not good.
unidentified
He's got a six-month...
What's it called?
joe rogan
Medical suspension?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
That ain't good for you.
That's a long one.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, they looked at that fighting and went, settle down.
Everybody relax for a little while.
You just went to war with a fucking meat machine.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like a cleaver.
russell peters
Who was it?
Kung was telling me that Henderson and we're hanging out and Henderson just punched him like as a joke because he hits so fucking hard.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure.
russell peters
He said it was like, wow, what the fuck, dude?
joe rogan
I don't think it makes sense.
He's just got one of those weird frames.
There's some people that just have power that just doesn't make any sense.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's like regular power, and then, you know, there's that Henderson thing, that Rumble thing.
russell peters
Yeah, I need to step in and crank the right way in order to get power.
I don't have that just, I'm gonna hit you and you're gonna feel power.
joe rogan
Do you know who's got it?
It's scary, that John Lineker kid, that little guy who used to fight at 125, and now he fought at 135 in his last fight but missed weight and beat John Dodson in a really close decision.
But he's got that weird spooky power, even for a little guy.
For a 135, it's kind of rare.
russell peters
There's little guys that have some heavy hands.
joe rogan
He's got the heaviest.
He's the heaviest I've ever seen in this division.
He's a clobberer.
He just gets guys up against the cage and just clobbers him.
And it's one of those things where when they feel the power the first time, you can see it in their eyes.
They're like, holy shit.
russell peters
It's like when Golovkin hits somebody.
You see it in their face immediately.
I've never seen people wince until they got hit by him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's something special, for sure.
russell peters
People, every time they get hit, you look at their face.
Oh, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Do you know his boxing fights don't have much pay-per-view buys, though?
russell peters
Yeah, because he's not...
joe rogan
That's crazy to me, though.
He's so exciting.
russell peters
He's exciting, but he's with Tom Loeffler.
joe rogan
Who's Tom Loeffler?
russell peters
That's his promoter.
joe rogan
Does his promoter fuck up?
russell peters
No, it's just that Tom Loeffler does not have the connections, I think, that Bob Arum or...
joe rogan
Floyd Mayweather.
russell peters
Yeah, what's his name there?
Al Heyman has.
joe rogan
Well, Golden Boy, right?
Golden Boy and Oscar De La Hoya and...
russell peters
But Al Heyman's the guy really who's got all the connects.
joe rogan
And I like how they take in fighters there too.
Like Bernard Hopkins is one of the partners over there.
And they seem to do a good job.
What's a crazy thing to go from being a fighter to being a promoter?
russell peters
Yeah, and then realizing you're making way more money as a promoter.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
And you're not in the line of fire at all.
You're like, this is bullshit.
joe rogan
I think Hopkins is going to take one more fight, though.
russell peters
Yeah, I think so.
Just to get it out of the system.
joe rogan
Bernard is at least 50, right?
russell peters
He's 51 this year now, or next year.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
russell peters
Never been out of shape, though.
joe rogan
I know.
I mean, he's a super, super disciplined guy.
It's just amazing that he's willing to do one more fight at this age.
And then, of course, being a successful promoter now.
russell peters
You know, you don't leave fighting, fighting, you know.
joe rogan
Hopkins vows.
russell peters
That'll be 52nd.
joe rogan
I'll fight before my 52nd birthday.
jamie vernon
It's in January, so he's gonna...
joe rogan
How is he gonna do that?
russell peters
Who is he gonna fight?
jamie vernon
December, somewhere in L.A. Probably at the Forum.
joe rogan
In December in L.A.? Dude, we should go.
russell peters
I'm in.
joe rogan
It'll be the last time Bernard Hopkins ever fights.
We should go.
jamie vernon
HBO telecast.
joe rogan
Dude, we gotta go.
jamie vernon
Salido-verse.
joe rogan
I want to be there for that live.
russell peters
Oh, I was at that Salido, Takashi Mori...
Fight.
joe rogan
So that's going to be...
what date is it?
unidentified
December...
I don't know.
jamie vernon
It doesn't say.
I don't know.
It could take place at this one.
It says it doesn't have a date on it.
joe rogan
Okay.
russell peters
No, they're having a rematch again.
Who?
Salido Takashimura.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
russell peters
Wait.
unidentified
I was just at this fight.
joe rogan
Orlando Salido, who's the first guy to beat Lomachenko?
jamie vernon
Yeah, this week, so.
joe rogan
October 12th.
Interesting.
Well, you know, I always look back to when Bernard Hopkins fought Tito Trinidad.
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
Remember when he threw the flag down in Puerto Rico and they chased him out of the stadium?
joe rogan
Oh, they went crazy.
They wanted to kill him.
russell peters
And I was like, oh, I think...
I remember that time I was like, Trinidad's gonna knock him out.
I was like, oh, he stopped Trinidad!
joe rogan
He beat the shit out of Trinidad.
He didn't just beat the shit out of him.
He boxed his face off before he beat the shit out of him.
russell peters
Wasn't it Hopkins?
I think it was Hopkins that...
I'm almost sure it was Hopkins.
He had a fight.
This was in the...
Probably the late 90s.
The guy somehow got under him and body slammed him.
And he dislocated his shoulder.
And they were like, we could stop the fight and you could win by no decision.
He goes, nope.
He dislocated his right hand, his right shoulder.
joe rogan
Hopkins?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, didn't he?
No, I don't remember that.
I remember one time he got thrown out, he dislocated his shoulder, and they stopped the fight.
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
And they stopped the fight because of him getting thrown out of the ring.
Maybe he got thrown out of the ring more than once.
russell peters
Yeah, I think this was against Antoine Echols, if I'm not mistaken.
joe rogan
Hmm.
Well, I knew he got thrown out of the ring against one guy, and he hurt himself.
russell peters
I remember he got his shoulder dislocated, and then he still went next round, and he stopped him with his left hand.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Man, I don't remember that at all.
russell peters
It might not have been Hopkins, but I remember this one.
jamie vernon
Was it Chad Dawson?
russell peters
Did Chad Dawson do that?
Against...
No, no, it was definitely not Chad.
joe rogan
Chad Dawson's another guy.
Well, whoever it was.
I remember Antoine Echols being in the mix, and they were spelled A-N-T-W. Hopkins shoulder hurt after Dawson throws him down, fight ends in the second.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Yeah, it was Chad Dawson.
but i feel like no see it said it was chad dawson but it was it he'd also had this happen before before this fight because chad dawson was that was fairly recently it was like in the later the late 90s yeah exactly right when hopkins was not uh dislocated yeah it was just if you just google hopkins record yeah This is not an exciting podcast to listen to.
russell peters
I apologize, guys.
joe rogan
While we're Googling Bernard Hopkins' record so we can remember a name.
russell peters
By the time I shit the bed on the Joe Rogan experience?
joe rogan
I don't think it was a loss.
I think it was a victory.
russell peters
Did he fight Antoine Echols?
joe rogan
See if you find...
russell peters
Right there.
Right down there.
Antoine Echols.
joe rogan
TKO 11. Maybe that was the second fight?
Because whoever threw him down...
russell peters
He fought him twice.
joe rogan
Yeah, whoever threw him down, he came back and beat their ass.
russell peters
Do you see it?
What's that?
jamie vernon
I'm gonna look it up a different way.
joe rogan
Okay.
Jamie's gonna look it up a different way.
I remember seeing it on ESPN. Canelo and Gennady Golovkin, though, would break the bank.
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe Golovkin needs to get, like, one more big-ass fight.
russell peters
He's supposed to be fighting Danny Jacobs.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
russell peters
In December.
There was a purse bid just now.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
Purse bid.
I like it.
unidentified
Look at you.
joe rogan
You're deep in the boxing and the DJ world.
russell peters
You know how I get down, Joe.
joe rogan
You do get down.
russell peters
I do get down, buddy.
Yeah.
joe rogan
What other good fights are happening right now in boxing?
Oh, Andre Ward.
russell peters
Andre Ward Kovalev.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
And I'm in fucking Toronto that night.
God damn it.
joe rogan
You want to be there live?
russell peters
I did not think that one through.
joe rogan
Is that one in Vegas?
russell peters
Yeah, T-Mobile, I believe.
joe rogan
Ooh, that's a good fight.
russell peters
I'm going with Kovalev on that.
joe rogan
It's a good fight.
It's a very good fight.
russell peters
I don't think Andre has the power to hurt Kovalev.
joe rogan
Do you think it's because he's going up to 75?
russell peters
Because he's at 175, and to me, he has not looked that impressive at 175. We only had one fight at 175, right?
joe rogan
Two.
Two?
Yeah, two?
Oh, I thought he just had one.
russell peters
And, uh, he doesn't hit very hard.
joe rogan
Who did he fight at 175 before that?
russell peters
He fought a Dominican guy.
I was at that fight, and that was in, uh, like in Ontario, California.
And, uh, Maybe that was at 168, but whatever it was.
He's fought twice now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard when a guy has to figure out what to do to make the big bucks.
You've got to take a chance, and Andre's dominating at 68. He's just such a good boxer, man.
Such a smart dude.
You know he fought a big portion of his career with a fucked up shoulder?
russell peters
I did not know that.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had to get shoulder surgery.
russell peters
I thought he had a fucked up eye or something.
joe rogan
I don't know about that.
russell peters
It might have been the shoulder I was getting mixed up with his eye.
joe rogan
Maybe.
But he finally had shoulder surgery like two years ago.
He had to take almost like a full year off.
russell peters
Yeah, he took a lot of time off.
joe rogan
Shoulder surgery is like that.
russell peters
He's had a lot of years off.
He keeps getting too much time off as far as I'm concerned.
joe rogan
Look at you.
You're like a mean boss.
russell peters
I am.
joe rogan
As far as I'm concerned.
russell peters
As far as I'm concerned, kid.
If you're at the prime of your career, you need to be in the prime of your career.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you've got a jack shoulder, it's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.
russell peters
True.
A little rotator cuff never hurt nobody.
I mean, it hurt a lot of people.
joe rogan
Boxers, it's really common they get shoulder injuries.
russell peters
Probably from overextending?
joe rogan
From a lot of things.
Just sparring.
You know, I know guys that have had their biceps torn off because they were sparring and they threw a punch and someone blocked the punch, like an arm got in the way, and just the full extension being caught like halfway and then pop!
They get a torn bicep tendon.
russell peters
And that's why I don't have biceps, guys.
joe rogan
Well, if you do a lot of curls, you really should be careful because you can break that thing and when it breaks, it pulls up and knots.
You've never seen Matt Serra's arm?
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
Matt Serra's got one bicep that broke and then curled up.
russell peters
They can't fix it?
joe rogan
Well, they could have right after it happened.
Like if you go to the hospital right after it happened, they reattach it and then you could fix it.
russell peters
It's like an Achilles tear, almost.
joe rogan
Why?
russell peters
When your Achilles snaps, doesn't your ankle just go loose like that?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
russell peters
Kind of snaps up like a rubber band?
joe rogan
Well, it's like that in a way, but apparently it just looks bad.
Like it pulls up and it hangs up there and it looks bad, but it doesn't really affect the movement of your arm, so a lot of guys don't do anything about it.
unidentified
They just...
joe rogan
They don't even get it fixed.
They just leave it with that weird lump in it.
russell peters
Doesn't it hurt in some level?
joe rogan
No, I guess it doesn't.
Not according to Matt Serra, you know?
russell peters
Well, he's the Terra.
joe rogan
He is the Terra.
But, you know, there's not a goddamn thing in the world that beats your body up more than MMA. And maybe football.
Between those two things.
russell peters
I would much rather watch MMA. Football, I don't understand football on any day.
joe rogan
It's because you're Canadian.
You're lucky you're here.
We're lucky we let you in.
russell peters
I know.
You know, I really...
Where's the...
Oh.
joe rogan
Where is it?
jamie vernon
Not Sarah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can see he's like missing a chunk of his arm.
His bicep, his right bicep, it's like the front part of it from the elbow towards the shoulders.
Yeah, just got a chunk torn out of it.
But it doesn't affect his movement.
You know, it's weird.
It just looks odd.
But that's one that breaks.
The human body is very fucking soft when it comes to the, you see the durability of animals, and you see how fucking goddamn flimsy we are, Russell Peters.
russell peters
Yeah, they've got it figured out.
joe rogan
Animals do.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
Yeah, they figured it out.
They know exactly how to stay in their lane.
joe rogan
Yes, they definitely do that.
russell peters
Humans are always like, well...
joe rogan
There's no renaissance animals.
russell peters
There should be.
joe rogan
That know everything.
You know, they can fly.
unidentified
An owl.
joe rogan
They know how to swim underwater.
russell peters
Would be the renaissance animal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Give a hoot.
Owls are fucking creeps, man.
I remember when I first moved to California.
russell peters
They're very violent.
joe rogan
They're super violent.
Well, they're predators.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
When I first moved to California, I saw an owl that was flying off with a rabbit and dropped the rabbit.
He had killed this rabbit, I guess, real close to the road.
And as I was driving, he tried to fly off with the rabbit and then decided, fuck this, I'm not getting away fast enough, and just dropped the rabbit and then flew.
I see him fly off with the rabbit in his talons and then go fuck this and just release it and then boom the rabbit hits the ground.
So I get out of my car and look at the rabbit and this rabbit's just eviscerated.
He's just torn its guts out and I'm sitting there going like, this is not what I think of when I think of an owl.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think, you know, I guess I knew they ate rats and rodents and stuff like that, but I don't think they literally will take out something that's their size.
russell peters
Oh, they don't play.
They got big old talons on them, that's why.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
And a bad attitude.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're fucking cunts.
russell peters
I see hawks circling my backyard a lot lately.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
russell peters
Because I have a puppy.
Oh no.
So what we do is when we see...
It starts with one.
Then you see two.
Then you see three and four.
joe rogan
Jesus.
russell peters
So I get my assistant to take out his drone and he flies it up and scares him away.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a good move.
That's a very good move.
Aha, you fuckers.
We're combating you.
But they will eat a puppy, man.
jamie vernon
Have you seen these...
joe rogan
What is this?
jamie vernon
Mococks, I think?
russell peters
Hey, I'm not looking at your cock.
joe rogan
Monkey, deer, mountain.
jamie vernon
There's this small island in Japan where they have this relationship, I guess, where the monkeys, they ride the deer like humans would ride a horse.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
This isn't real, Jack.
jamie vernon
It definitely is.
It's a little humping it right now, but this is definitely real.
I looked it up.
They...
This might not be riding around so much, but they'll pick little ticks and shit off them, parasites, and they eat them.
They have this weird relationship where they allow it to happen.
They let them ride them around.
russell peters
They're like the groomers for the deer.
joe rogan
Dude, this is crazy.
russell peters
That's just macaque, my deer.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
Wow.
So what we're reading is monkey, or watching rather, monkey deer mounting in Japanese macaques.
I can't believe this, man.
I thought this was fake.
This is incredible.
So, um...
russell peters
Favorite rapper, Tupac McCock.
joe rogan
Oh, you motherfucker.
How dare you?
He's grooming the deer.
There's another one that I saw.
unidentified
Um...
joe rogan
Goddammit, now I forget what it was.
I was just gonna...
Shit.
Another one that had to do with monkeys.
Oh, baboons.
Baboons have pet dogs.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
russell peters
I've not seen this.
joe rogan
Yeah, they get dogs as puppies, they raise them, and they keep them around as security.
And the dogs bark if anything comes near.
They raise them like a fucking pet.
Yes.
Is there wild?
Dude, it's crazy.
russell peters
Is there pictures, videos of this?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a video of it.
It's nuts.
How smart are these folks?
russell peters
The dog doesn't start thinking it's a chimpanzee or anything?
joe rogan
The dog acts like a dog.
Like, look at this.
He's got him, he's like holding on to the puppy.
russell peters
Is there audio to this?
joe rogan
Well, the video is entitled...
See, he's got the little puppies holding on to it.
Oh, man, he's rough in the way he drags that dog around.
Holy shit.
jamie vernon
It's called baboons, kidnap and raise feral dogs as pets.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But they literally raise them as pets.
They beat them down, they keep them around, they're holding on to them.
Look, he's sitting on them and holding it in place.
Oh, it's fighting against him?
It bites against him?
So he's, like, picking it up and forcing it to the ground.
He's holding on to its tail, and he drags it around like a toy.
Like, he has no concern.
They're such a weird animal, man.
That looks like a lion fucked a person.
You know?
Doesn't it?
They're so weird.
I mean, a baboon is one of the weirdest fucking animals you'll ever see.
russell peters
That looks like us in a transitional stage in the evolution chart.
joe rogan
Almost like a branch, right?
One went left, one went right.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they have that lion tail and that mane in the front.
Like, it's a strange, strange appearance.
I found this one dude's page.
I don't know.
His page is all in Arabic.
I don't know what it says, but every day is a new animal fucking up of an animal video.
Like, every day.
It's overwhelming following them.
russell peters
See translation right there.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't want to know.
I don't even want to know what they're saying.
russell peters
I mean, the translations are always off so bad, it's actually kind of funny.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
They're never dead on.
joe rogan
I'm trying to think of what the fuck this dude's name is, but I'll figure it out.
I'll put it up on Instagram later.
But his page is on what the other day was these hyenas tearing apart this, it was like a wildebeest, like guts first.
This thing's trying to get away and get out of the water and this hyena is just ripping it apart, guts first.
russell peters
Hyenas are savage.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so hard to watch.
russell peters
I can't watch that stuff.
joe rogan
We're so soft, Russell Peters.
unidentified
We are.
joe rogan
Living here in America.
Because we care.
russell peters
We have too much compassion.
joe rogan
Well, it's not just that we have too much compassion.
I'm saying that it's so easy for us to get by.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
We don't have to worry about a hyena getting us.
My dad grew up in the jungle.
joe rogan
What jungle?
russell peters
In India.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
russell peters
Yeah.
So literally, he hunted tigers, leopards, wild boar.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Your dad did that?
russell peters
Dad a lot.
Yep.
He was born in 1925. So, you know, back then it was...
It's not like he would hunt them for fun.
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
But yeah, he was a big game hunter.
joe rogan
Wow.
russell peters
We have a tiger skin with a head.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
russell peters
Yeah.
This last one that he shot was in the 60s when it was already banned.
You weren't allowed to shoot tigers then.
But this man-eater went to a village...
And was killing people in the village.
So they had asked my dad to, can you go get this?
Can you go?
We know your family's a bunch of hunters.
Can you go get this tiger for us?
And he's like, what's in it for me?
And they were like, we'll give you $15.
Like, that was a lot.
Like, it was the equivalent to that.
Somebody's saying to you today, I'll give you $15.
joe rogan
Whoa.
russell peters
And he said, well, how about you keep your money?
I get to keep the skin.
joe rogan
So they made, like, an exemption?
russell peters
They were like, yeah.
Because he's getting a man-eater.
It wasn't like he was just randomly killing a tiger.
joe rogan
Boy, that's a monster movie.
russell peters
I'll tell you exactly how he did it.
I remember the story clearly.
He went to where there was two trees, side by side.
So he built up a little fort in this one tree.
And then he tied a bull, a blue ox, around the other tree.
And then he went and sat up in the tree at around 5, 6 o'clock in the evening.
And he sat there reading magazines and stuff.
And then he knew when the night falls that the tiger would come out.
And then as soon as the bull started going crazy and running around the tree a lot because he knew he was scared...
My dad had a shotgun with him, a.308, I think.
And he had his flashlight, and the minute his flashlight touched the barrel of the gun, it made a metal noise.
And then as soon as he did that, the tiger looked up at him.
And instead of going for the ox, leaped straight at my dad in the tree.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
russell peters
And my dad just fumbled and shot and hit him right here in the throat.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
russell peters
And the tiger flipped back.
And then he flashed a flashlight on his eyes to see if they were still glossy.
And then he put another shot at him just for safety.
unidentified
Whoa.
russell peters
And we have that skin to this day.
joe rogan
Holy shit, your dad was a gangster.
russell peters
It's at my house.
Not at my house.
We have it in Canada.
And I want to bring it here.
But I don't know if we'll be able to...
joe rogan
I don't think you will.
Well, you might be able to get some sort of historical exemption.
russell peters
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what paperwork I need for it.
It's hard to prove, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
That seems like, hmm, maybe you'd have to...
I think what happens when they find those things and they're illegal is they have to donate them to museums.
russell peters
Yeah, see, I don't want to lose that.
That's family heirloom.
joe rogan
Because I remember reading about someone getting arrested.
It was a long time ago.
I want to say it was like the 70s or the 80s.
Someone got arrested with tiger skins.
They had some tiger skins that were obtained.
One of them was obtained illegally.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
You know, but it was illegally in like 1937 when they shot it and this person had had a couple of them now They were in trouble because when that happens if someone sells you one, it's Apparently your responsibility since it's a bad item.
Yeah to bring you have to bring it to like Somewhere and then they have to post it or something.
It's like you're not allowed to possess it.
russell peters
So if you do possess it you could be in big trouble and This was all properly gotten and properly imported into Canada.
joe rogan
What part of India did this take place?
russell peters
It's a small railway village called Buranpur.
It's kind of in the middle of the country.
joe rogan
Is that anywhere near the Sundarbans?
russell peters
I cannot confirm nor deny that.
joe rogan
That was the subject of this documentary that I saw where they were talking about the Sundarbans is a very unusual section of the river system in India because it's very brackish for a long period of time.
And these animals apparently drink the water, and the water has a high salt content, and it's super irritable to the tigers.
And he thinks they make, it's one of the theories, they make the tigers more aggressive because they're just in pain all the time from drinking salty water.
And they've killed some insane amount of people over the last couple hundred years.
I think it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 plus thousand people have been killed by tigers.
In the last couple hundred years in this area.
russell peters
I remember going there when I was 11 or 12, around that age.
And my dad took us, we went to my grandmother's, who still lived out there.
And he took us for a walk.
We all had to carry guns.
I was 11 walking around with a rifle.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
russell peters
And everybody had to carry a gun because, you know, he took us to like a river and you could see fresh tiger prints in the mud.
joe rogan
Oh!
russell peters
And he was like, look, see?
And you follow the prince and you go, don't.
My dad was like, don't go that way.
Because that's where he went.
So you're going to go the other way now.
jamie vernon
There's a big tiger sanctuary right next to it.
russell peters
Where Baranpur?
jamie vernon
Yeah, here's Baranpur.
And then this is a, I don't, I can't see it.
joe rogan
I'm sure you've seen, oh wow, that's so wild.
russell peters
I've never looked at that like that.
joe rogan
That's pretty cool.
Can people see this on YouTube?
russell peters
That's all.
That's all.
I know that.
joe rogan
That's pretty dope.
russell peters
I know that area when I was a kid.
I'm trying to find a picture of my dad with...
We have some of the shots here.
joe rogan
Did you see that video from that wild animal park in Beijing?
russell peters
Oh my god, that was awesome.
I saw it on your Instagram first.
unidentified
I was like, what the fuck was this?
joe rogan
Why did you get out of your car?
russell peters
What makes you think, yeah.
joe rogan
People just get mad.
russell peters
Yeah, that's what you wrote.
That they were...
She was mad and that's why she got out of the car?
joe rogan
She apparently got mad at somebody in the car, I don't know who, but she got out and she survived.
Her mom, who got out to chase the tiger away after the tiger pulled her off, the mom got killed.
russell peters
Oh, so the one that got taken didn't get killed.
joe rogan
Yep.
Woman mauled in Beijing, tiger attacked to sue.
russell peters
Sue who?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
russell peters
The tiger?
I'm sure he doesn't have insurance.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
She's saying she hadn't been fully informed of the dangers and left the vehicle because she was carsick.
joe rogan
Well, she was yelling at somebody.
russell peters
Oh, here we go.
joe rogan
We're gonna have to watch it.
I see.
She was carsick, bitch.
russell peters
She was carjacked.
joe rogan
This is so crazy.
She gets out.
She storms over to the other side.
The other person gets out.
And she's arguing.
She's like, listen, I'm telling you right now.
You better shut the fuck up, bitch.
Come here.
unidentified
That tiger just ran out and grabbed her, dude.
joe rogan
And then someone else goes out after the tiger.
russell peters
Park Ranger?
joe rogan
Yeah, Park Ranger runs in there, and that's all we see.
russell peters
It looked like the tiger went, wow, this is the easiest lunch I've ever had.
joe rogan
Tiger probably couldn't help himself.
Finally saw something he could jack, and best yet, she wasn't paying attention, so her back was turned.
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You ever see those videos of the tigers, like, creeping up on people when they're sitting with their back to the cage?
russell peters
Oh, it's crazy.
joe rogan
They just dive on the back of them.
They can't help themselves.
russell peters
That's what they do.
They're being tigers.
joe rogan
They are being tigers.
russell peters
They're tigers.
Too busy being tigers.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
Checking your tweets?
russell peters
No, I'm trying to find this picture of my dad.
joe rogan
Oh, the tiger rug?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
It says you have to sign a piece of, like, a waiver that says you will not get out of your car once you enter the park, but she thought it wasn't that, and no one explained it to her.
russell peters
What does she think she's saying?
unidentified
Oh, no.
jamie vernon
So dumb.
joe rogan
She might have not been paying attention and not knowing that there's tigers out there.
russell peters
I mean, nobody really reads that stuff, but if somebody explains it to you...
joe rogan
How the fuck could they just let you drive around in your own car where they have tigers?
China doesn't give a shit.
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
That's just such a ridiculous policy.
They would never have that in America.
With the liability insurance that people have to carry over here?
russell peters
In Canada, they have a place called African Lion Safari.
When I was a kid, we used to go, and you'd drive through with your own car.
And there was, yeah, there was lions.
And there was giraffes, and monkeys would jump on your car and fuck up your antenna, and...
joe rogan
There was a place like that in New Jersey that I went to where the monkeys would jump on your car.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they'd pull people's windshield wipers off and shit.
russell peters
Oh yeah, they were really destructive.
joe rogan
But there's a big difference between that and a lion.
You guys had lions?
russell peters
It was called African Lion Safari.
I don't believe I saw a lion.
But I do remember the monkeys fucking up the car.
And then my mom telling me recently when I was home that we should take my daughter to go see African Lion Safari.
I'm not going in my fucking car to African Lion Safari.
Are you kidding me?
joe rogan
I saw a bobcat and a bunch of moms or a bunch of babies.
Recently.
By your place?
No, no, no.
I was in Tohono Ranch.
We were driving down this road and this bobcat and I think, I want to say two or three babies.
But I saw it so briefly and I knew that it was a cat.
I saw it so briefly and the guys I was with thought it was a cat that in my mind I had seen a cougar I'd seen a small cougar and some cougar puppies.
When they explained to me that, no, no, no, no, it was a bobcat, then I had to look into my memory and I was like, how much of my memory is concocted?
How much of my memory in this situation is just like a total falsification?
russell peters
What I wanted it to be.
joe rogan
Well, I've just filled in the blanks.
Like, I knew it was a living thing, I knew it was some kind of a cat, and I knew it ran away really quick, and there was a couple of them.
So, when we said it was a cat, I was like, oh, well, that must have been a mountain lion, a very small mountain lion.
And I was trying to figure it out.
russell peters
Bobcats are just, uh, they have really big paws, right?
Isn't that what it is?
joe rogan
Some of them.
russell peters
Oh no, those are lynx.
joe rogan
Lynx have really big paws.
russell peters
Yeah, because they walk through the snow.
unidentified
Those are Canadian.
joe rogan
Those are weird to see, man.
I saw one of those.
russell peters
I don't want to see one of those.
joe rogan
I saw one of those when I was in Canada.
russell peters
Did you?
joe rogan
Yeah, walking on the side of the road.
I took a picture of it.
russell peters
Going to raise there, never saw one ever.
Never saw a moose seedling.
joe rogan
What?
russell peters
And I know they're massive.
Who are you?
I know.
joe rogan
Who are you?
russell peters
I don't know who I am sometimes.
joe rogan
Isn't that like the Canadian animal?
Or is it like a duck or something?
russell peters
The goose is ours.
joe rogan
Is it?
For real?
russell peters
The Canada goose.
joe rogan
No.
That's your animal?
russell peters
I don't know.
I think that's the only one that we identify as Canadian.
But moose is definitely part of our heritage.
joe rogan
In a way, that's kind of appropriate that you guys are the goose and we're the eagle.
You know, we're a cunty, shitty, mean bird.
Doesn't give a fuck.
Kills everything.
But can be tamed.
russell peters
An eagle can be tamed?
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
You can get him to sit on your arm.
He's not trying to pull your eyes off.
russell peters
One of them giant fucking leather...
joe rogan
I think you have to raise them, but people definitely raise eagles.
I mean, it's not like you can get a regular eagle and tame them, but if you raise them, I'm sure you can get them to the point where they don't try to kill you all the time.
russell peters
Like Dave's House of Eagles or something.
joe rogan
It's such an awesome animal, though.
It's just amazing that there's such a variety of different things.
russell peters
That's my dad sitting on it.
joe rogan
Whoa.
That's your dad sitting on a goddamn man-eating tiger that he killed.
What a scary thing that is.
You know another thing about it?
They're so beautiful.
russell peters
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird, like you're gonna be killed by something that's so amazing to look at.
russell peters
Don't they always say that if tigers were in Africa, they would be the king of the jungle?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, they're way bigger.
Especially the big ones.
russell peters
Bigger, meaner.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're faster.
They're on the next level to a lion.
There was a video that I watched the other day.
russell peters
Are ligers real?
joe rogan
Yes.
Lions are real.
But ligers tend to be docile for some strange reason.
I don't think anybody's ever been attacked by a liger.
They also have some weird growth thing going on where whatever regulates growth, it doesn't work on them.
russell peters
That's a liger?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're so huge.
They're way bigger than regular cats.
russell peters
Look at the belly on that guy, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're fucking giant, dude.
That's an enormous, enormous animal.
So whether it's the male tiger fucks the female lion, I think that's how it goes.
So when that happens, apparently the...
Look at that.
That's amazing looking, isn't it?
Apparently, when it does happen, the cat, whichever side is the lion or the tiger, one of the sides is supposed to get the gene for regulating growth from the woman, but it doesn't get it from the woman, or it doesn't get it from the man, because the man's a tiger or the man's a lion, however the combination works.
But because it's a male and a female, or a lion and a tiger, they make this new thing that doesn't know when to stop growing.
So it just keeps growing.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
It just gets you bigger.
russell peters
But these are fabricated.
joe rogan
Well, I think they can appear in the wild, but they don't live in the wild together.
russell peters
Yeah, but they're two animals that are from different continents.
You know what I mean?
So somebody had to have put them together at some point.
joe rogan
Not only that, they're not viable.
They're hybrids, and it's a hybrid that's not viable.
It's not like a dog.
A wolf can fuck your dog, and those puppies are part wolf, and they can fuck a regular dog, and there'd be no problem.
They would just keep making puppies.
It'd probably be good for the gene pool.
But with these things, even though a lion and a tiger Probably look more similar than a German Shepherd and a poodle.
They do, right?
russell peters
They probably look more similar.
joe rogan
They're not the same thing.
So that baby's a hybrid.
So those hybrid babies, they can't reproduce.
russell peters
They can't produce more ligers.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Yeah.
russell peters
So they're one litter animals.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But like wolf dogs?
Wolf dogs can fuck regular dogs, and they can get fucked by regular dogs.
russell peters
Oh man, by the way, I heard coyotes like crazy in my backyard last night.
joe rogan
Fucking?
Or screaming?
russell peters
I don't know.
They were screaming.
They were killing something, I'm sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're interesting, aren't they?
Those are wolves.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're actual wolves.
russell peters
Skinny wolves.
joe rogan
Yeah, little tiny wolves.
They can mate with wolves.
They mate with dogs.
We ran into a litter once when I was doing Fear Factor.
We were in this really rural area where we were doing this stunt, and we ran into a litter of coyotes.
And Labrador Retriever.
Coyote had fucked this guy's Labrador Retriever.
And the Labrador Retriever gave birth and the puppies were all outside and we were trying to...
russell peters
Were they mangy looking?
joe rogan
They were real mangy looking.
It was real sad because they were essentially feral and people were kind of trying to rescue them and they were trying to give them to people on the crew and people on the crew were like...
Trying to get the cell phone service so they can call friends, see if anybody wanted to take them.
Because you realize, like, wow, these poor little things, like, they're just, they're going to die out here.
But there was also the thought, like, whoa, who wants a half coyote?
russell peters
Nobody wants a fucking coyote.
joe rogan
That thing ain't going to listen to you, man.
russell peters
Yeah, they're wily.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a wild animal.
A tricky little wild animal.
That fucking thing is not listening.
But if you have, like, a lot of people are...
russell peters
But a lab is, like, such a calm, peaceful dog, too.
joe rogan
Might bounce it out.
russell peters
Yeah, I don't know.
It might be too, you know...
It might just make a really cunty lab.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I'm having this guy on soon.
He's a wildlife biologist who's been studying all the coyotes that live in urban Los Angeles.
There's a big article about it, about this ongoing research, about just how many coyotes live.
russell peters
There's a ton of them, dude.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
They've infiltrated and they're a part of this.
We like to think of our cities as environments that are free of anything alive other than us that's dangerous.
Or anything other than us that's a predator.
We don't want to think that there's something acting as a predator in our midst like that.
For the most part, we like to think of cities as being barren of wildlife.
But that's not true at all.
russell peters
No.
Well, they were here before we were.
joe rogan
Not even.
Here's the thing.
They were, but their range has expanded.
I'm reading a book right now called Coyote America by this guy, Dan Flores.
And he was a wildlife historian turned author.
And you find out about the history of the coyote.
Apparently all dogs came from North America.
All dogs, all cannids, including jackals, including a bunch of shit that's in Africa right now, all came from North America.
All horses, zebras, it all came from North America.
They went extinct in North America and then were reintroduced later.
And the coyotes are a weird animal.
russell peters
How did they get around?
joe rogan
I don't fucking know.
I guess Pangea.
I think it was when the continents were all connected.
You know, when there was a different configuration.
But this fucking book's amazing, man.
Talking about the history of the coyote and how sneaky those fuckers are.
The reason why there's so many coyotes, they're all across every city in America today.
And that wasn't the case a hundred years ago.
They've expanded their range due to persecution.
So when anybody shoots them, when wolves come in and start killing them, when anything happens to them, they make more babies.
They do that roll call, that screaming in the night.
When one of them's not calling back, the females start producing more eggs.
It's crazy shit.
They go from having like four offspring to like, you know, four pups in the litter, they'll have like 15. Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
russell peters
You know, you know, have you ever heard when a siren goes by, it sets them off?
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
I hear a siren and then fucking all of a sudden you hear a shitload of coyotes and like, wow.
joe rogan
Have you ever heard turkey do that?
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
When you slam your car door.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
If you're out in the woods and you slam your car door, you'll hear...
russell peters
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's crazy.
Like, they have this instinctive reaction.
Like, turkeys will gobble if you make a turkey call.
Like, you know, they have the...
And they make a call like a turkey and the turkey calls back.
But they'll also do it if you just slam a car door.
russell peters
They're very sensitive to sound.
joe rogan
They just freak out.
And when they freak out, they can't handle themselves.
russell peters
What was that meat you were cooking the other day?
Elk?
Yes.
How was it?
joe rogan
It's good.
You ever had?
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
Do you cook?
russell peters
My lady cooks.
joe rogan
She does?
I'll give you some.
I have some elk here.
russell peters
Do you really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
I'll take a little elk home.
What does it taste like?
joe rogan
Like cow fucked a deer.
Made sweet, sweet love to a deer, but more delicious.
russell peters
Okay.
joe rogan
It's like my favorite meat.
It's really good for you, too.
russell peters
I thought it looked good, and I never thought I'd ever say this to you, but I really want to taste your meat, Joe.
joe rogan
You son of a bitch!
You can't help yourself.
russell peters
I can't.
joe rogan
It's just who you are.
You gotta accept it.
russell peters
It's true.
When you were telling me about the coyotes, and you were saying you were reading the book, what was the name of the book?
joe rogan
Coyote America.
russell peters
I was like, have you read Coyote Ugly?
It's a short book.
It pained me to stop myself from saying it.
joe rogan
Some kids say they don't even know what coyote ugly means.
Let me explain to you, you little fucks.
Coyote ugly is when someone fucks someone that's so ugly that your arm is underneath them when you wake up and you chew your arm off like a coyote caught in a trap just so that you don't have to wake them up and deal with them.
russell peters
It's true.
joe rogan
That's what the term coyote ugly comes from, right?
russell peters
It's true.
unidentified
That's a brutal goddamn term.
russell peters
I've had a few of those in my time.
unidentified
Have you?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's mean.
russell peters
Road coyotes.
Some of the old road coyotes.
unidentified
Road.
joe rogan
The travels.
There's some spots in this country where you stop in and you go, man, I wish I could get all of you guys out of here.
russell peters
But then you talk to them and they love it there.
joe rogan
Sure.
People love where they are.
russell peters
Yeah.
But then I get to some spots where I'm like, you know, you're driving through these really small towns and you're looking around.
And I always think to myself, I wonder if I just fucking stopped the car here, bought a house, and then never called anybody again.
Just lived here in this little small town.
joe rogan
You know what that is?
That's a longing for nostalgia.
It is.
It's like you thinking, I'm going to go back to being a regular guy.
I'm tired of being Russell Peters, Mr. International, Mr. Worldwide.
russell peters
You know what's funny?
When I go home to Toronto, I always drive through my old neighborhoods.
Like the three or four neighborhoods that I did grow up in.
joe rogan
Do you hang your Rolex out the window?
unidentified
What?
russell peters
You know, I'm always tempted to knock on the doors of the houses I lived in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
But I do it at these ungodly hours, so it'd be really creepy.
joe rogan
And you're probably drunk.
russell peters
No, no, no.
I don't drink and drive.
joe rogan
Yeah, people don't want you knocking on their door and saying, hey, I used to live here.
Yeah, you don't need more.
Nice to see you.
Take it easy.
russell peters
I want to just be like, hey, I grew up in this house.
Can I just come in and look around?
Like, no, you fuck.
I'm hanging meat in the basement.
Get out of here.
joe rogan
There was a house I grew up in that was for sale recently.
I got to see it online.
It was weird.
russell peters
You should have bought it.
joe rogan
No.
No.
russell peters
We're in Massachusetts.
joe rogan
Yeah, in Newton.
Newton-Upper Falls.
But it's interesting to see it.
russell peters
Did you know Dana back then?
joe rogan
No.
russell peters
No?
joe rogan
No, I didn't know Dana.
I didn't know Dana until 2001 or something like that, like whenever they bought the UFC. Yeah, he lived in South Boston.
I used to work in South Boston at one point in time.
russell peters
Is that where the Southies are?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think he lived there.
I think he said he lived in South Boston.
But I lived in Newton, Newton Upper Falls.
Now I lived all over the place.
Once I moved out of my parents' place, I moved to a lot of shitty neighborhoods and pursued my comedy dream, Russell Peters.
russell peters
You never had that accent.
joe rogan
I did I did I found myself on TV when I won the Bay State games in 1986 86 or 87 like that they had this thing called the Bay State games and it was like this big thing I It was this big tournament that they would do, like an Olympic-style tournament.
russell peters
This was Taekwondo?
joe rogan
Yeah, and they've televised this fight.
They televised, they fucked up the camera, and the camera missed the fight.
I won by knockout in the first round in like 30 seconds.
And then they had this big TV report where they had these...
These TV people interview me because I had won the state championship a couple years in a row and they were interested in coverage of the Bay State games.
Anyway, I listened to myself on TV and I sounded like such a fucking idiot.
I had a VHS tape of myself.
And I realized it was the first time I'd ever heard myself.
unidentified
Is it online?
joe rogan
No.
I don't know where it is.
russell peters
I never realized how Canadian I sounded until I saw an interview of mine from like 97, 96. And I was just so earnest and Canadian.
I was just extra Canadian.
unidentified
Did you say about?
joe rogan
Did you say about?
russell peters
I did.
I fucking did.
joe rogan
You don't say it anymore?
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
Say about?
russell peters
Say about.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's right.
You're struggling.
I feel the struggle.
russell peters
The only thing I say that's still very Canadian is sorry.
joe rogan
Ugh.
I listened to myself when I was 19 in this video and I was saying, hide.
Like, we worked out really hard for this.
russell peters
Oh.
unidentified
I was like, ugh.
russell peters
That's so funny to me.
unidentified
It's that stupid noise.
joe rogan
I can't even picture you like that.
russell peters
Was Callan out there too in Boston?
joe rogan
Callan was in Boston, but again, I didn't know him either.
Callan was apparently in Boston and he was also doing Taekwondo, but I didn't know him.
russell peters
But he was born in India.
joe rogan
Cowan was born in the Philippines.
russell peters
His sister was born in India.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was a military child.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he lived all over the place.
He lived in Saudi Arabia.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
He lived everywhere.
It's a fucking weird way to grow up, man.
russell peters
Yeah, I can't imagine that.
joe rogan
Living in a bunch of strange foreign countries.
russell peters
But to be, like, I mean, to be as well-rounded as he is today is a testament to him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he's super well-rounded as far as, like, his interests.
russell peters
Yeah, he's just, you know, he's a guy.
joe rogan
He knows a lot of shit.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
He knows a lot of shit about very interesting and different...
Like, he's one of the few guys that I can call up, like, some bizarre thing that's in the news.
I can call up, hey, fill me in on this.
Like, what the fuck's going on with this?
And he'll be able to most likely have some insight...
He's got a pretty broad range of topics in his head that he knows quite a bit about.
Don't ever talk to him about wine.
You'll get stuck.
russell peters
Oh yeah, I can't drink wine anyway.
I got acid reflux.
No wine for me.
joe rogan
What is acid reflux?
russell peters
It's your body telling you you're a fat fuck and you need to change your diet.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
But what does it mean?
Does it mean like burps come up?
russell peters
Yeah, your burps come up.
I mean, it burns.
It burns to hear.
joe rogan
So your digestive juices kick back up.
russell peters
Yeah.
It's horrible.
What's causing it?
I've had it since I was a kid.
I remember being a six, seven-year-old having it.
joe rogan
Now, is there anything they can give you?
Would they give you something for it?
russell peters
Back then?
joe rogan
No, now.
russell peters
Now, yeah.
I take stuff called Protonix.
joe rogan
And what does that stuff do?
russell peters
It just stops it.
I don't know what it does exactly, but I know I don't feel any pain when I'm on it, so I'm good with it.
joe rogan
You don't feel any pain like you could whack your dick with a hammer?
Like that kind of thing?
russell peters
Actually, I'm numb.
Numb to the world.
joe rogan
Numb to the world?
That's what you're looking for?
russell peters
But I eat pizza and not worry.
joe rogan
I drank a whole Mountain Dew.
I don't give a fuck.
Do you think there's a dietary cure?
russell peters
Absolutely.
When I eat properly, it doesn't bother me at all.
I could not take medication then.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
So you choose to eat like shit?
russell peters
No, I just do it preventatively now, just in case.
I don't know what the fuck's going to trigger it.
joe rogan
Wow.
So when it triggers it, it just kicks in?
You start getting that burning feeling in your throat?
russell peters
It's kind of like a...
Yeah, it's like a burn and you burp and your eyes water.
joe rogan
Like what'll do it to you?
Like lasagna?
Lasagna kick you down?
russell peters
No, pizza would take me down.
joe rogan
Pizza.
russell peters
French fries.
Anything greasy.
Greasy.
Wine is the worst for me, though.
unidentified
Really?
russell peters
Oh my god.
joe rogan
So right now, if we busted out a glass of wine and started cleaning from glasses, you'd just start throwing up?
russell peters
No, no, no.
It wouldn't hit me.
I'd be like, oh, it's all right now.
And then when I go to bed, the minute I lay down...
joe rogan
Oh, that's when you feel like shit?
russell peters
Yeah, that's when it happens.
joe rogan
Man.
Stay up.
That's what I'd say.
russell peters
Just forever?
joe rogan
Don't be a pussy.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
I don't know why I'm not committing to this more.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
You just gotta keep partying, bro.
russell peters
I don't know what the side effects- Just gotta party harder.
Can you see what the side effects to Protonix are?
joe rogan
Because I'm pretty sure- You gotta have some.
russell peters
I heard it's probably short-term memory.
I forget.
joe rogan
Wah, wah, wah.
That was a pun, ladies!
That wasn't a pun.
What was that, a clip?
russell peters
That was just shit.
That was just shit, Joe.
unidentified
That's what that was.
russell peters
That's all it was.
It was shit.
joe rogan
How would you categorize that if you're a professional?
russell peters
Weight changes.
See?
joe rogan
Weight changes, nausea, vomiting, mild diarrhea, gas, stomach pain.
russell peters
Tired feeling, that's always.
joe rogan
Dude, get off this stuff.
Jesus Christ.
Okay, Jamie, now Google Protonix dangers, please.
God, long-term use may cause issues.
Dude, get off that shit.
Oh my God, what are you taking?
Common side effects.
FDA sounds alarm on the dangers of anti-acid drugs.
jamie vernon
How is it a side effect of it if it's what you take to fix it?
joe rogan
Click on Chris Crusher's article, FDA sounds, alarms, and dangers of aspirin.
russell peters
This is six years ago.
joe rogan
This guy's smart as fuck.
I've had him on the podcast.
Very, very knowledgeable guy.
Goddamn your pop-ups!
Fuck your pop-ups!
So what does it say here?
In a shockingly rare example of FDA actually doing its job, a report was issued on Tuesday cautioning against the prolonged use of a class of acid-stopping drugs called proton pump inhibitors.
Okay.
So this is the shit, man.
Oh my God.
Americans spend $5.1 billion on the most popular anti-assets.
That is insane.
Holy shit.
There's so much money in drugs.
That's what we should have got into, Russell.
Why are we telling jokes?
We could be selling drugs.
russell peters
Well, you're busy taking them, so.
joe rogan
Wah, wah, wah.
I take the good ones.
russell peters
That's it.
joe rogan
That stuff, though, doesn't seem like a good one.
And you take that stuff.
russell peters
I take it twice a day.
joe rogan
Dude, stop taking that, please.
russell peters
I take it when I wake up, and I take it before I go to bed.
joe rogan
Can I connect you with a diet guy that can change your life?
russell peters
Yes.
joe rogan
Would you do it?
russell peters
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah?
Okay.
I'm going to connect you with a guy.
I know a guy that can change your life.
russell peters
Yeah.
I need that.
joe rogan
Change your life!
russell peters
Joe Rogan, Changing Lives.
joe rogan
Would you listen?
Would you only eat the stuff that he told you to?
russell peters
Yeah.
I'm not an expert, so I would have to listen to what he says.
joe rogan
Now, you're a wealthy man.
How come you haven't already done this?
russell peters
I do.
I try.
joe rogan
You got the paper?
You got that paper?
unidentified
I try.
russell peters
I try.
I just enjoy food.
I enjoy life.
joe rogan
I do too, man.
russell peters
That's the problem.
I'm like, you know what?
joe rogan
I feel like going off sometimes, maybe right now, like going and getting like a gigantic fucking mushroom and pepperoni pizza.
Not give a fuck how they got that pepperoni either.
russell peters
You see what you just did?
You planted a fucking seed in my head, Joe.
joe rogan
It's just perfect right off the fucking oven.
Oof.
They slide it out of that oven with that giant spatula, and they drop it down into that box.
russell peters
Yeah, they drop it like it's hot.
joe rogan
You just start pulling slices apart, and the cheese is hanging, all gooey.
And you dig in, you taste that tomato sauce, and that grease, and the spices, and you're just chewing on the carbs, too, and you're just going, fuck, yeah!
Like, I don't need a six-pack.
I don't need to be shredded.
Fuck all that.
Give me this pizza right now.
russell peters
That's my problem.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
russell peters
The problem is the way you sold it just now.
I may stop on the way home.
joe rogan
I ate a bunch of boring shit today.
I ate nuts.
Eggs.
I ate a bunch of boring ass shit.
I certainly didn't have a fresh pizza.
russell peters
I had multigrain Cheerios.
joe rogan
That's good.
If you like sugar and things that aren't really good for you but appear to be good for you on the box.
unidentified
Oh, it's multigrain!
russell peters
They were delicious.
joe rogan
You know what I like?
Pineapple and anchovy pizza.
You ever had that?
russell peters
I don't like pineapple on anchovies.
joe rogan
See, the two of them together.
I know it seems nasty.
I know people are listening to me.
They're like, Joe Rubin, you're a fucking idiot.
russell peters
You need the pineapple to mask the anchovy.
joe rogan
No, it doesn't mask it.
It all gets busy together.
I'm telling you, it's fantastic.
russell peters
Yeah, I can't do cunty smelling things like that.
joe rogan
Not only that, I go double pineapple, double anchovy.
russell peters
Yeah, I can't do that.
joe rogan
I don't give a fuck, Russell Peters.
russell peters
I think you just shit on my pizza dreams.
Hey, guess what?
You just talked me out of eating pizza.
joe rogan
Here's another one.
Maybe this will be more up your aisle.
Jalapenos and sausage.
russell peters
Jalapenos, sausage, and cheese.
Jalapenos, sausage, and cheese.
joe rogan
Oh, don't be a pussy.
You're taking drugs.
russell peters
I know.
Take the drug.
joe rogan
Take extra.
russell peters
The jalapenos and the sausage.
joe rogan
Take your extra jalapenos.
russell peters
It'll all fuck me sideways.
joe rogan
Take your extra medicine.
Can't you take, like, four of those fuckers?
russell peters
Oh, God, you don't want to do that.
joe rogan
No?
What happens then?
russell peters
I don't know.
joe rogan
You get no more acid.
russell peters
I just don't want to find out.
joe rogan
It cleans out all your acid.
What's happening?
Like, how's it stopping that?
russell peters
I don't know.
What's it doing?
Can't be good.
But I've had it since I was a kid.
And my parents were just telling me, drink milk.
joe rogan
Mmm, that's a good thing to tell people.
russell peters
My mom would be like, oh, go drink some milk.
It'll go away.
joe rogan
It's almost like nothing you should drink milk for, other than you want milk.
russell peters
Yep, drink some milk, it'll cool it down.
Well, Indians, you know, because food's so spicy, they serve a yogurt dish with it, and yogurt's to...
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
russell peters
To calm your instincts.
joe rogan
To calm everything down.
russell peters
But I never liked the yogurt as a kid, so I would have to just drink milk.
joe rogan
I went to a kid's party recently, and we pulled up, and it was this thing at this roller skating place, and I was hungry.
I was like, I gotta get something to eat.
Oh, in North Georgia?
Yeah.
So right around the corner is this super authentic Indian deli slash lunch place where everything was in Indian and everything was like shit.
There was a few things that were in English.
No one there was American except for me or no one there was your standard English-speaking person except for me.
No one knew what the fuck I was saying.
I had to tell this lady I didn't want the naan bread.
She just wound up giving it to me anyway.
But the food was sensational.
It was really good.
All vegetarian, Indian food.
But I really felt like I had somehow or another teleported into another country.
I was hanging out with these people.
They're all wearing...
russell peters
Indian clothes.
joe rogan
Totally identify them as being from India.
They had Indian music playing, Indian TV shows on.
russell peters
They overdo it sometimes.
joe rogan
They went deep.
They missed the motherland.
russell peters
Like a time capsule.
joe rogan
But the food is so distinct.
It's like all the curries and the different spices and the turmeric and...
It's a really interesting type of food, man.
russell peters
It depends on which part of India you're eating food from, too.
It's very different everywhere.
joe rogan
There's a place...
russell peters
North, south, east, west.
Everybody has their own stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a place on Ventura.
Where's the best Indian restaurant in L.A.? Is there a one spot that really knows it?
russell peters
I have a spot that I used to go to in Studio City.
It used to be called Great India Cafe.
And they just changed the name.
And I forgot what they changed the name to.
But the restaurant's still there.
joe rogan
There's one in...
russell peters
And it's pretty damn good.
joe rogan
Woodland Hills on Ventura that's really good.
russell peters
I might have been to that one.
Unabarg or something like that.
I'm trying to remember the name.
Down closer to the 101 area.
joe rogan
Yes, closer to like Calabasas.
Yeah.
That place is really good.
russell peters
It's in a little strip plaza.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
russell peters
Yeah, it's not bad.
joe rogan
Dude, to me, it's really good.
I don't know shit, though.
I want you to school me in the ways of the authentic...
russell peters
My mom taught my fiancee how to make her food her way, and she makes it fucking amazingly.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
So if you're into it, I will have you and wifey over.
joe rogan
Let's do it!
russell peters
Come on.
joe rogan
There was the place that I went to that I told you that was a super authentic Indian, but it was all vegetarian.
Is that common?
russell peters
Yes.
Vegetarian is big over there.
joe rogan
The second place that I've found that's like a super authentic, there's another one in Canoga Park that's real similar.
It's like a supermarket, like a market rather.
And then they also serve food there, but it's all vegetarian as well.
russell peters
Vegetarian is more common than not in India.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Yeah, you have to specify.
They'll put on the outside veg and non-veg.
unidentified
Hmm.
russell peters
So why do you think that is?
And then on airplanes when they order their food and then they screw it up.
I am a vegetable.
My wife is also a vegetable.
joe rogan
Oh, that's what they say?
russell peters
Yes, yeah.
So vegetarian.
But it's good to hear.
joe rogan
Why is that, that Indian is so predominantly vegetarian?
russell peters
It just always has been, historically.
I mean, you know, they...
I think they revere animals quite a bit.
They also can't really facilitate storing meat.
Some people don't have refrigerators and stuff.
joe rogan
Right, right.
That makes sense.
It's easier to hang on to the vegetables.
But there are some dishes like...
Like, there's one that has Rogan in it.
Lamb Rogan Josh.
russell peters
Rogan Josh?
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That shit is good.
russell peters
That is good.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That place in Woodland Hills, I've had it there.
Extra spicy.
Oh, my God.
russell peters
Rogan Josh is damn good.
joe rogan
You say Josh?
That's what you say?
I would say Josh.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's a meat dish.
Is that just a small amount of those meat dishes in the Indian cuisine?
russell peters
No, no, there's a lot of meat dishes.
It's just, you know, more often than not, you'll find, it's probably easier to find a vegetarian Indian restaurant than it would be to find a meat one.
Unless you go from like North India.
North Indians tend to eat a lot more meat.
joe rogan
I wonder if there's a direct connection.
I mean, India's always had an issue with Pakistan.
They've been involved in conflicts before.
But overall, when people think about Indian people, people from India, they think of them as not being warlike.
They think of them as being pretty peaceful people, right?
I wonder if there's a correlation between that and the massive amount of people eating plants only.
A wonder.
russell peters
I don't know.
It's a possibility.
They are a very, you know, they've always been big on meditating and yoga, obviously, is ours.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
And centering yourself.
joe rogan
And eating hash.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
Eating hash.
joe rogan
And you go deep, deep, deep, deep, deep into the records.
They have some really crazy ancient writings, man.
On Vimanu's, this flying saucer talk and shit.
And some of the old...
russell peters
And Sanskrit's the mother of all European languages.
joe rogan
Is it?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're from a pretty cool place, huh?
russell peters
It's not too shabby.
joe rogan
It's pretty badass.
russell peters
Have you ever been?
joe rogan
No.
russell peters
Oh, you'd love it.
joe rogan
All the cool shit that's been from India.
Like, that's a very unique part of the world.
russell peters
Yeah, I think you'd really enjoy it out there.
joe rogan
You've got to get rid of those tigers before I go visit.
I'm not into that.
Your dad can do that.
I'm not going to be there for that.
russell peters
Not for the tigers?
joe rogan
I used to have this bit in my act about a real thing that happened on the Sundarbans where this tiger jumped into the river, swam up to a boat that had five fishermen in it, and killed one at a time.
Killed three guys.
Grabbed them, bit them, dragged them into the water, pulled them to shore, killed them.
Jumped back in the water, swam back out to the boat, grabbed the next guy, pulled him to shore.
russell peters
None of these guys thought about...
joe rogan
They couldn't do anything.
They were trying to row.
They couldn't row faster than the tiger can swim.
They swum faster, then five guys can row, and then four guys can row, and then three guys can row.
So there's two guys left.
Two guys survived.
And three out of the five were killed by the same fucking tiger who kept swimming out to the boat, jacking them, and then swimming to shore with them.
russell peters
Yeah, to him it was like being at a party and the hors d'oeuvre tray was coming by.
Oh, I'll get another one of those, please.
joe rogan
He chased it down.
I mean, what a terrifying...
russell peters
On the third one he was like, you know, I really shouldn't, but okay.
joe rogan
Oh.
Really wish I saved that video of the tiger running at the guy Because it turns off at the last minute I think they fire a gun and scare it but it's running at him at an impossible rate of speed like you see it running you just It forces your your brain to reprocess how fast you can get out of the way Yeah, I think we like to think like go off something's coming at me, bro.
I fucking get out of there I run so fast.
russell peters
Yeah I always think about a dog or something.
Even if a coyote came at me, I'm like, punch it in the face.
It's not just going to sit there and let you punch it in the face.
Your tough guy kicks in, and then your reality kicks back in.
joe rogan
Well, that's what people think they can do to each other, too.
You know, guys are always thinking, yeah, this fucking guy was looking at you.
I saw him looking at you.
I'm just gonna go over there and fuck that guy up.
And you think in your head, well, I got a plan here, and I'm gonna say something, and I'm gonna hit him with one of these, and that's gonna be the end of that.
And then when it's not, when the guy moves his head and hits you with a jab and kicks you in the balls, you're like, oh no, what have I done?
russell peters
Yes, yes, always.
joe rogan
And then you get beat up by his friends.
But in your head, you have this thing.
That tiger's going to run at me, and I'm going to get the fuck out of the way.
russell peters
Like the guys that tried to fight Nick Diaz in the bathroom.
joe rogan
Yeah, what a great idea.
russell peters
Fucking smart plan, stupid.
You know, next time you're going to mouth off to somebody, look at their ears first.
joe rogan
Just look at his eyes, man.
He's got scar tissue all over his eyebrows.
Wouldn't you just assume that that guy's been into...
Well, they're just drunk dummies.
You've got a lot of those in this world.
russell peters
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
Even when I'm drunk, I'm not that stupid.
joe rogan
That's why you're Russell Peters.
You're not one of those dummies.
We need those guys too, Russell.
russell peters
It's true.
We need to balance out the ecosystem.
joe rogan
For now.
We just gotta raise the level of dummy, you know, because the level of dummy today, if you take the average dummy, like even those guys that got in a fight with Nick Diaz, if you take those guys and drop them off in the caveman days, they'd be running shit.
They'd be the smartest guy in the room.
They'd be able to take, listen, listen, you guys don't know shit, you don't know what you're doing, first of all, we gotta make some shelter, we can't rely on this cave, the bears know where the cave is, okay, come on guys, come with me.
They'd figure out tools, like you guys haven't even figured out tools yet, we gotta make tools.
russell peters
They'd be the foremans, they'd be the foremans.
joe rogan
If you could get one of those dummies and bring them back to the point before monkey people invented tools, and he could start making tools, he'd be the king, right?
Well, that's what's happening.
That was only a million years ago.
So evolution is not like, all of a sudden, now we're at.10.
No, there's still people at.6.
That guy's at.6.
russell peters
Yeah, that's whatever.
People really think evolution is a...
joe rogan
It's an even playing field.
russell peters
Yeah, everyone's like, well, then how come?
I'm like, because you're an idiot, that's why.
joe rogan
It's an even playing field.
Well, people don't want to admit that life isn't fair, you know, in a bunch of different ways.
It's definitely not fair physically.
If you think it's fair physically, go try wrestling LeBron James.
Just grab him.
Want to feel how helpless you are?
Just feel what it feels like if a fucking NFL lineman grabs you by your neck.
Just feel how vulnerable you actually are in relationships to how you appear that you are.
Or how you think that you are.
What you envision for yourself.
This world ain't fair at all.
russell peters
People have that...
What's the fucking word I'm looking for?
The way they see themselves is not really the way they are.
You know, when I look in the mirror, I still see a 25-year-old Russell Peters.
But then, when I get honest with myself, I go, what the fuck happened there, kid?
joe rogan
You gotta stay drunk.
Stay drunk and keep moving.
Sometimes that's the answer.
A lot of people tell you, introspection, yoga, isolation tank.
You can go that way.
Or...
Stay drunk and keep moving.
Like, I love people that do both.
Like, Stan Hope's one of my favorites.
Stays drunk, keeps moving.
Same with Hunter Thompson.
Stay drunk, kept moving.
russell peters
You still got your isolation tank?
joe rogan
Yes, I do.
russell peters
How often?
unidentified
You want to go in it?
russell peters
I do.
joe rogan
When?
russell peters
I really do.
joe rogan
Say the word.
russell peters
And you tell me whenever you're home.
joe rogan
Come on over, dude.
We'll make it happen.
russell peters
You're not far from me.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
We'll make it happen, dude.
You'll love it.
So relaxing.
When you get out of there, you go, whoa.
That's it, huh?
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
russell peters
I really want to do it.
joe rogan
Body feels real good.
Loosens up everything.
russell peters
Yeah.
I need that.
Just to shut off the world.
joe rogan
Do you have a spot in your house where you could put one?
unidentified
Um...
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
No?
Can you build, like, a little shack?
russell peters
I could, yeah.
joe rogan
You should do that.
russell peters
I'm going to wait until I move, and then I'll do it.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
russell peters
Because then I'll have a man cave that I can do with it.
joe rogan
Ooh, man cave.
Yeah, you want, ideally, the best move would be if you had a bathroom that you could sacrifice.
If you had a house, and I know you're...
unidentified
Baller!
joe rogan
So you're going to get a nice house.
If you have a house and you could sacrifice one of your bathrooms, set it up in there so that you have the shower that's right there.
It's already set up for plumbing and all that jazz.
And have the guys from Float Lab set it up.
You will value it so much.
It's such a nice place to just chill and think about shit and reflect.
russell peters
How long do you do it?
joe rogan
The least I do is an hour usually, but I will jump in if I only have 40 minutes.
And I said, I just want to get in there right now.
I will jump in and do like 40 minutes if I know I have to go somewhere.
But honestly, that is contrary to what it's good for.
What it's good for is like the end of the day for me.
Like everybody's asleep and I can get in that thing.
I can just...
Just totally remove myself.
russell peters
Do you fall asleep in there?
joe rogan
No, never.
I don't think so.
Maybe you want to jerk off.
I don't do that.
russell peters
But the salt.
joe rogan
It gets a sting, sting, sting.
You can, for sure.
I have a hard time falling asleep laying on my back, though, because I've got sleep apnea.
So if I did that, I start choking.
I think I've developed it.
russell peters
I know I snore like a motorcycle now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's super common, man.
Super common.
A lot of people have it.
It really fucks with your sleep, man.
You should do something about that.
russell peters
Sometimes I'll take an Advil cold and sinus before I go to bed.
joe rogan
Does it help?
russell peters
Yeah, because it opens up my airways.
joe rogan
You want to take a pill, guys, huh?
russell peters
Not really, actually.
joe rogan
We've got to fix you.
This is what we're going to do, goddammit.
First of all, no working out with that Manny Pacquiao trainer anymore.
The guy's going to break you.
You need to go to Equinox and get a goddamn regular trainer like a gentleman.
russell peters
I just want to get small.
He was making me big.
I was way healthier, I guess.
I don't know.
And now when I laugh, I can feel my core is really good in there.
But there's a lot of shit on top of this core right now.
joe rogan
Well, I can help you with that.
I got a guy I'm going to connect you with.
If you follow his diet, it will, without a doubt, clean you up.
We're gonna make that happen, Russell Peters, if you really want to do it.
russell peters
My lady loves to cook for me, so she'll cook whatever we tell her to make.
joe rogan
It's gonna be hard, though.
The real way to get your body to lose weight is you gotta get off the fucking carbs and the sugar.
russell peters
Yes.
joe rogan
And those are the most addictive things in the world.
russell peters
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
The key is, don't torture yourself relentlessly.
Like, every now and then, you gotta give yourself a break.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Give yourself a little reward.
russell peters
When I was training with Ariza, I would get a one-day cheat day.
joe rogan
Yeah?
russell peters
I would go fucking nuts on that day, though.
joe rogan
What'd you have?
russell peters
Oh, man.
unidentified
Talk to me.
russell peters
I would have pizza.
I went to Tommy's.
I had chili cheese fries.
I had double cheeseburgers.
Like, this isn't one day, you know?
I was going in.
Cake, ice cream.
I went in on everything.
joe rogan
You know my friend Eddie Bravo, right?
russell peters
Of course.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo used to be on the Atkins diet.
And then he went from the Atkins diet every day to he would have like a Sunday and Sunday would be his cheat day.
And then Sunday started kicking in around Saturday at midnight.
russell peters
Yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
And so then he said, well, fuck it, man.
If it's Saturday at midnight, why don't I just do the whole weekend?
I don't want to worry about this.
Let me start.
I'll start it.
I'll start the cheat day on Friday.
So he went Friday, Saturday.
So it was basically four days Atkinson.
When he did one day, when he did one day, he was legendary with what he would throw down.
I mean, he would eat stacks of fucking pancakes.
He would eat bowls of ice cream, cheeseburgers, pizza.
He would go off.
I mean, just go off.
And he would do it with such lust.
Like a guy who had been depriving himself for six days.
russell peters
That's exactly how it was.
It was very therapeutic.
joe rogan
Like, what is the most disgust that you ever felt with yourself on a cheat day?
russell peters
Oh, that was the first cheat day is when I went in.
Yeah, I went to IHOP for breakfast and had the country fried steak with scrambled eggs and cheese, and then I had the pancakes, and then later on I had pizza as a snack.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
russell peters
And then I went to Tommy's, because Five Guys was too far, because I really wanted Five Guys that day.
joe rogan
Dude, I had chicken fried steak in Montana.
Would they really know how to make it, like rancher style?
russell peters
With that thick gravy?
Oh, yeah.
It's just so good though.
joe rogan
It was a glorious cheat meal.
It was smothered in this luscious gravy.
See, you don't get that from healthy food.
russell peters
No, I know.
joe rogan
You don't get that feeling.
There's a crazy carb load feeling that you get.
unidentified
It's a weird warmth.
russell peters
It's a good warmth.
joe rogan
A bowl of spaghetti with meatballs?
Like when you're sucking down that?
russell peters
I'm a big fan of the fettuccine alfredo with the chicken, but I usually use penne noodles because I don't want to be slapped in the face with fucking fettuccine noodles.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
That's a good move as well.
I'm particularly fond of linguine with clams with white sauce.
Done correctly, no can defend.
russell peters
There's no takedown defense to the linguine with clams.
joe rogan
You know what else is really good, man?
Lobster fra diavolo with linguine.
russell peters
I do not know this.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
russell peters
You're half a time, you know these things.
joe rogan
Three quarters.
russell peters
Three quarters.
joe rogan
One quarter Irish.
Yeah, it's a spicy tomato sauce with lobster and spaghetti.
Jesus fucking Christ.
russell peters
Christ.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, Russell Peters.
unidentified
It's so good.
russell peters
I think you're going to have a cheat day today.
joe rogan
You have it with garlic bread and you put some Parmesan cheese on top of it.
Just some grated Parmesan on top of that bitch.
Damn, that's good.
It's so good.
People tell you that you never should put cheese on seafood.
Like, if you get linguine with clams, they tell you not to put the cheese on.
And oftentimes, if you go to a proper Italian restaurant, they get mad at you if you try to put cheese on that linguine and clam sauce.
Those people are assholes.
They don't know shit.
russell peters
Italians are very protective of the way things are done.
In Toronto, the Italians are first generation, so everybody speaks Italian, and And they are very Italian.
And I love Italian sandwiches.
And they get so mad when I walk into the fucking Italian store.
They're happy to see me at first.
Hey, hey.
And then I pick the bread.
And then they go, what do you want on it?
I go, ah.
joe rogan
Do you have any gluten-free pasta?
russell peters
No, I go, you're going to get mad.
I need butter on the bread.
joe rogan
What?
russell peters
And then I go, and then I pick the meats.
And they're like, all right, that's it.
And I go.
Can I get some mayonnaise on that, too?
Ah, for fuck's sake, you want me to shit on the bread, too?
They get so mad!
They literally ask me if you want me to shit on your sandwich, too, because you're fucking it up, kid.
joe rogan
Well, how can they do that when they're asking you what they like on it?
That's one way Subway's superior.
Subway does not give you a hard time for your choices, you know?
You could just say salami with hot peppers.
They're like, okay.
russell peters
And that's why it's Subway, not Subwayo!
joe rogan
Oh, this fucking guy!
But Kevin James and I went to this Italian restaurant once, and we both wanted linguine with clams with the cheese.
And it was like, are you going to ask for the cheese?
I'm going to ask for the cheese.
Okay, I'll ask for the cheese if you ask for the cheese.
Because they don't want to give it to you.
They want to give you the linguine with clams, and if you have a dish right next to me...
russell peters
Is he training with Eddie, Kevin James?
joe rogan
Well, he's done a lot of training with Bas Rutten.
russell peters
Oh, that's right, with Bas.
joe rogan
And he did some stuff with Ray Longo.
Kevin's actually a really accomplished martial artist.
He's got really good hands, very good kicks.
He's a real martial artist.
He's a big guy, but he can fucking hit hard.
It's kind of surprising.
If you ever see him hit the bag or hit the pads with Mark Delgrate, it's pretty impressive.
He doesn't look like a professional fighter, but he's a very competent martial artist.
But didn't want to ask for that cheese, neither did I. Gotta keep that cheese coming.
But if you were right next to me and you had spaghetti with red sauce and meatballs, they would offer you the cheese.
russell peters
Would you like some cheese?
So you'd make somebody order that on the side?
joe rogan
No, you would be right next to me and he would offer you the cheese and they would walk away.
And I'd be like, what about me?
And they're like, sir, we do not recommend the cheese for this because it would be too delicious.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You wouldn't be able to handle it.
russell peters
Yeah.
We don't want your euphoria.
joe rogan
Well, they have a very specific taste that you want to take in.
They want you to take in the taste of the noodles, the olive oil, the spices, and the clams.
That's it.
It's perfection.
Take it in.
Take it in like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, no.
russell peters
I need to add my own perfection to this perfection.
joe rogan
I need cheese on this motherfucker.
You got any ketchup?
russell peters
Oh, my daughter.
My daughter loves the cheese, too, so she'll be like, when I make her a little pasta, she'll be like, Daddy, can I put the cheese?
And then she takes it and fucking dumps it on there.
joe rogan
Kids love cheese.
Tastes good.
Plus, it's rewarding you in some sort of weird lactose way.
It's giving you some weird, very slow trickle.
unidentified
Helping the bones.
russell peters
Helping the bones.
joe rogan
Supposedly, right?
Calcium?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
But cheese is way better when it's raw.
You ever have raw cheese?
russell peters
No, I have not.
joe rogan
I've been getting into raw cheese.
russell peters
Like the curds you made?
joe rogan
No, raw cheese.
Like get cheese from a place that uses raw milk.
Mm-hmm.
I've been getting into that and drinking raw milk.
I've been drinking a lot of raw milk lately.
russell peters
You don't eat goat's milk?
joe rogan
I have drinking raw goat's milk, but no, just raw cow's milk.
You can get it from some sustainable farms and some like Air One carries it.
russell peters
You drink it cold though, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, it tastes delicious, dude.
It's so much better.
It goes down easier.
Like, regular milk feels weird.
And one of the reasons why regular milk feels weird is because it's homogenized and pasteurized, and apparently there's enzymes in milk that when you're boiling the milk to treat it and make it sort of last longer and so it doesn't have any disease in it, you're killing all the good stuff, too.
So your body's drinking this weird liquidy protein that doesn't exactly know what to do with.
russell peters
It's like doing chemotherapy on milk.
Kills everything.
joe rogan
A lot of it, yeah.
In a lot of ways it is, yeah.
It's just boiling the fuck out of it.
But when you don't have it that way, when you just have cold, raw milk, it's way better.
It tastes better.
It feels smooth when it goes down.
It's one thing that people comment on when they drink it.
They're like, wow, it's really smooth.
Because it's got all the stuff in it that you're supposed to drink.
And people tell you, like, oh, you're not supposed to drink animal milk.
russell peters
Does it smell different?
joe rogan
No.
It tastes a little different.
It tastes better.
To me, I think it tastes better.
I mean, some people like low-fat milk.
I think that shit's disgusting.
I'd rather just drink water.
Low-fat milk tastes weird.
russell peters
In coffee, I like to put half and half.
joe rogan
I like that, too.
This is getting to a what-do-I-like show.
russell peters
Yeah, I do like me some.
Welcome to the Joe Rogan Experience, where we're talking about coffee and things we like in it.
jamie vernon
So back when there was like Milkman delivering milk every day, would it have been...
russell peters
And fucking your wife!
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
That's what they did.
jamie vernon
Maybe raw milk, because they had to do it all the time.
joe rogan
Oh, it was 100% raw milk, probably.
I wonder when they came up with the homogenization process.
Homogination, once they did come up with the pasteurization that's Louis Pasteur, you gotta find that's interesting.
I wonder how much of that was raw, and how much of it was pasteurized, and when they started doing that on a big scale.
But it's imperative if you want to keep it on the shelf.
Like, you're not gonna be able to keep raw milk on the shelf for very long.
Because I've had it in my house for just a couple of days, and it noticeably goes bad in the refrigerator.
Not bad to where you can't drink it, but to where it's like, wow, this is on the door of getting funky.
russell peters
Sorry kid, I have to text my ex-wife because I gotta pick up my daughter.
joe rogan
What do you got there, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I found a weird milk, milestones of milk history of the U.S. In 1950, there was milk vending machines.
joe rogan
Whoa.
But when did they start?
jamie vernon
I was trying to find out.
There's a lot of first compulsory pasteurization law in Chicago applying to milk, except that from tuberculin-tested cows, 1908. 1908. Tuberculin?
joe rogan
Hmm.
What is that?
Is that tuberculosis?
Is that brucellosis?
Is that brucellosis?
Brucellosis is something that cows get that I know...
It's like one of the main concerns about different wildlife populations mingling, especially buffalo.
Like some buffalo have brucellosis and they can get it to cows.
jamie vernon
It says, 1919 homogenized milk was sold successfully for the first time in Connecticut, and then a couple more years passed by before, let's see, first farm bulk tanks for milk began replacing milk cans in 1938, and then every other day milk delivery started in 42, and then it was added to school lunches in 46. Yeah, but when it was in 42, was that homogenized and pasteurized milk when they started?
Initially as a war conservation measure.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
I wonder.
If they do it every day and you have an icebox in your house, you probably don't have to.
That's kind of crazy, though.
They relied on a guy to come by with the milk.
Like, that's how everybody got their milk.
russell peters
Also, people's lifespans, life expectancies were a lot shorter back then.
joe rogan
It was.
russell peters
So is this a good thing or a bad thing that we did?
joe rogan
Um, they were shorter then?
Is that what you're saying?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's because people didn't understand medicine or vitamins.
russell peters
True.
joe rogan
Talking 1930. Yeah.
They just knocked you over the head when they had to do surgery.
russell peters
Yeah.
My dad had scurvy when he was a kid.
joe rogan
No way.
For real?
russell peters
No, not scurvy.
Rickets.
He had rickets.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
russell peters
He had rickets.
joe rogan
Where does that come from?
russell peters
I don't know.
joe rogan
Nutrition or something?
russell peters
He just had it when he was a baby and then it stunted his growth, so he only became like five at his tallest, maybe 5'3", 5'4".
joe rogan
I think when we get older in our lifetimes, there's going to come a point in time where they laugh at people being sick or people being injured.
I think they're going to be able to repair bodies perfectly.
They're going to be able to regenerate limbs.
Within the next 50, 100 years, there's probably going to be so many crazy advancements to medical science.
We're going to look back on injuries and the treatment of injuries the way we do it today.
russell peters
Well, that's, I think, you know, once they get that stem cell shit, right?
joe rogan
Have you had any of that yet?
russell peters
No.
You know, when I was in India last year on tour, this guy gave me some, like, face stuff to put on.
joe rogan
Give you a facial?
russell peters
Yeah, he was really friendly.
joe rogan
And I just stood there and waited.
russell peters
He gave me some sort of oil to rub on my face that had stem cells in it.
joe rogan
Probably bullshit.
russell peters
Yeah.
And he was like, oh, you're going to see.
It's going to have an immediate effect.
joe rogan
Hey, call me, bro.
I'd love to do business with you.
russell peters
And then I did it for like two months.
And I was like, nope, nothing.
All it did was give me a couple of pimples.
That's all it did.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's probably bullshit.
The real stem cell shit, they got it injecting you.
They have to keep it cold.
russell peters
Yeah, it didn't do anything for me.
joe rogan
We're gonna be, I think, the first group of people to see people live, like, deep into the hundreds.
I think it's gonna be real weird.
Like, what is a 200-year-old healthy person gonna be like?
How strange is it gonna be if they really figure out a way to regenerate tissue And keep someone in a relatively healthy state.
And you get to see, like, the wisdom of someone that's 200, 300 years old.
Because, like, you're 40, what did you say you were?
46. 46. How much smarter are you than when you were 26?
russell peters
A whole lot.
joe rogan
A whole lot, right?
russell peters
A whole lot.
unidentified
A whole lot.
joe rogan
If you lived to be 146, how much smarter would you be than you now?
unidentified
I'd be pretty crazy.
russell peters
As long as you're coherent.
joe rogan
What if you looked exactly the same?
russell peters
That'd be pretty awesome.
joe rogan
That'd be strange.
russell peters
That'd be strange but awesome.
joe rogan
Did you feel guilty if you were getting pussy at 146?
unidentified
Nope.
russell peters
I was getting pussy when I was fighting at 147. Back in the day!
I think if they can get the HGH thing right and make it cancer-free, I think there's a possibility.
joe rogan
There's no correlation between HGH and cancer.
The correlation is between abuse of HGH and some issues and also cancer with a bunch of different factors.
Environmental factors, factors like diet, factors like heredity.
There's a bunch of different shit, but there's a concern about That if you are supplementing with human growth hormone and a cancer grows in your body, that it could grow more.
That is a concern.
But I don't think there's any real evidence to support that concern that I've ever read.
But what's interesting about cancer that I've been reading a lot about is when you get your body to...
If you get your body to a place where it's...
You stew a bunch of different chemicals that are in the environment, whether it's pollutants or whether it's something that you work with, like people that work around really strong chemicals, people that work with automotive stuff, like all the bondos and epoxies and all that.
Those people, their cancer numbers, whenever you work with a lot of chemicals, your cancer numbers get crazy high.
Like that seems to be where the big risk is, is diet and people that work around chemicals.
There's a lot of people that are out there that they just took a job because it's a good job and it pays well, but you're in like a slow death sentence.
russell peters
Absolutely.
joe rogan
That fucking sucks, man.
That's got to be the weirdest way to make a living, to be trapped in a gig where your very job itself is slowly chewing away your body.
russell peters
Well, you were doing comedy in the 90s as well.
I remember going to clubs for the whole weekend and be full of fucking smoke.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
russell peters
I remember just leaving gigs.
You'd fucking reek.
You couldn't wear the same clothes twice.
You had to shower as soon as you got back home.
joe rogan
Oftentimes you didn't realize it until you open up your bag, right?
Yeah, you open up your clothes, take your clothes out when you got home.
You're like, what the fuck?
They just stunk like cigarettes.
But cigarettes, if you're a waitress, it's the worst.
russell peters
Because you're directly in the line of fire with them then.
joe rogan
And you're there all the time.
Like in the days when they used to be able to smoke in bars, I bet a lot of chicks got, a lot of waitresses got cancer from secondhand smoke.
russell peters
Yeah, I just remember, and the worse the gig, the more the smoke for some reason.
joe rogan
It's just crazy that wasn't that long ago.
russell peters
It really wasn't.
joe rogan
It wasn't.
russell peters
I remember when they banned smoke.
It must have been around 2000 maybe?
99 maybe at the latest.
joe rogan
Yeah, the weird improvements like that that happened that are pretty goddamn significant at the time.
People are protesting like, we want to smoke in bars.
unidentified
We know what we want.
joe rogan
I remember people complaining, saying that pool halls were going to go out of business because they wouldn't allow people to smoke in them anymore.
People had to stand outside to smoke.
In the old days, everybody smoked indoors.
It's a fucking weird, gross habit.
russell peters
I remember smoking on planes.
Remember that?
joe rogan
You know Fitzsimmons, right?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fitzsimmons' parents were chain smokers when he was a kid.
And they lived in Boston, so it's the winter.
And the windows are closed, locked down, and they are smoking in the house, chain smoking with the kids.
Greg gets asthma.
He's got asthma from this.
They'd be in the car going on a road trip, smoking in the car, windows...
russell peters
My friend's father smoked.
He would do that shit in the car.
Wintertime wouldn't roll down the window.
Fuck it, it's too cold.
joe rogan
Make everybody breathe your smoke.
Is there any habit like that where you force the consequences of your habit on other people?
russell peters
Maybe alcoholism.
joe rogan
Imagine if you dated someone and they farted on you so much, your clothes smelled like farts.
He'd be like, God, she just keeps farting.
She's always farting on me.
russell peters
I like that we blamed it on her.
joe rogan
Well, I'm saying if you dated someone...
I'm saying if you dated someone, I mean, I'm assuming you're not dating any dudes.
russell peters
No, not anymore.
joe rogan
But if you were dating a dude, and that dude just farted all over you, you'd come home, you're like, Mike, we can't fuck anymore.
Every time I take my clothes out of the bag, I smell farts.
I bring it home, people go, was somebody farting on you?
Yeah, Mike was farting all over me.
russell peters
I'm surprised my lady doesn't smell like farts.
I rip on her all night while we're sleeping.
joe rogan
He's addicted to farts.
russell peters
And on her leg, too.
She doesn't even flinch.
unidentified
She doesn't flinch when you fart on her?
russell peters
She's like, you're alive, huh?
joe rogan
Wow, you just fart on her?
russell peters
Well, it's not like I'm trying to.
Do you guys talk about it?
joe rogan
Does it come up?
russell peters
She kind of giggles about it.
joe rogan
Wow.
She's a trooper.
russell peters
She is a trooper.
Thug life.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's not good.
Farting on people.
But it's essentially what people are doing with cigarette smokes, right?
It was just getting in your clothes and you were smelling like cigarette smoke.
You were making people smell like what you were into.
russell peters
Yeah.
And whatever disease you were susceptible to, so are you now.
joe rogan
It doesn't smell as bad as a fart.
But it's just...
russell peters
It's as obnoxious.
joe rogan
It's in the neighborhood, right?
It's like a hard left from a fart, but it's still gross.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it doesn't smell like shit, right?
russell peters
No, a fart is, as George Carlin said, shit without the mess.
joe rogan
Is that what he said?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's end it on that.
That's the perfect way to end this thing.
Powerful George Carlin from beyond the grave gets the best line of the show.
russell peters
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Powerful, powerful Russell Peters.
Thank you very much for coming in here, dude.
It was fun.
russell peters
Thanks, Joe.
joe rogan
Appreciate it.
And Indian food.
We're going to make it happen, right?
russell peters
Yeah, definitely.
joe rogan
The real deal?
russell peters
Real deal.
joe rogan
Okay.
Non-bread?
Garlic non-bread?
Is that the real deal or is that American bullshit?
russell peters
No, that's North Indian.
You need to make that right.
Otherwise, you're getting the North American one.
joe rogan
Okay.
russell peters
You need a special oven for that.
joe rogan
This podcast is over.
See you next week, fuckers.
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