June 6, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Dave Smith, president of the Kanye West fan club is here. | ||
| Comic Dave Smith on Twitter. | ||
| Tweet him pictures of your dick. | ||
| He loves them. | ||
| I love Kanye and dick pics. | ||
| I'm glad we got that out. | ||
| Well, seriously, dude, thanks for doing this because I loved you on Ari's podcast, man. | ||
| You were fucking awesome on it. | ||
| It was really cool. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| It was a welcome surprise. | ||
| You know, not that Ari's podcast is not always awesome. | ||
| It's always awesome. | ||
| But I was like, damn, this dude needs a lot of political shit. | ||
| And you knew about the Hillary Clinton thing with the rape trial that she was involved in. | ||
| Defending the guy... | ||
| Well, explain it, because it's a fucked up story, and I don't want to get it wrong. | ||
| Okay, so Hillary Clinton... | ||
| This is way back when she was a criminal defense attorney. | ||
| She got a child rapist off, and a real bad one. | ||
| It wasn't one of those good child rapists. | ||
| It was a really... | ||
| Like Jared, he's banging 15 year olds. | ||
| Like a nice guy who's making sandwiches. | ||
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Gives you a little extra pickles, you suck his dick. | |
| You heard the way Michael Jackson was accused of raping boys. | ||
| That was like the nicest way you could rape a kid. | ||
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It was like take him to an amusement park. | |
| Show him the llama and the monkey. | ||
| Alright, child rape is bad. | ||
| Let me start with that. | ||
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This is horrible. | |
| The worst thing ever. | ||
| Kanye dick pics good, child rape bad. | ||
| I just want to be clear on where I stand. | ||
| So this guy basically raped a 12-year-old girl, and really brutal, the details of the story, and she defended the guy, and there's tape of her in an interview Talking about this years later. | ||
| Now it's still, it's back in the day, it's when Hillary Clinton's doing like a southern accent. | ||
| There's been like six different Hillary Clintons that have existed. | ||
| This was the southern wife of Bill Clinton, Hillary. | ||
| When he was the mayor or governor of Arkansas back in those days. | ||
| So was that early 80s? | ||
| Yeah, somewhere around that time period. | ||
| I'm not sure precisely where the tape is from. | ||
| She is... | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of videos I could point to online that's, I think, strong evidence that Hillary Clinton is a sociopath. | ||
| I'm personally convinced of that. | ||
| Now, I'm not a professional, and I can't diagnose her. | ||
| But this video is really up there. | ||
| I mean, she's laughing about the details of the rape case and how she got the guy off. | ||
| And she laughs about how funny it is when she basically admits that she knew the guy was guilty because she's going like, oh, we convinced the jury. | ||
| It was a big miscarriage of justice. | ||
| And she says that he took a polygraph and passed it. | ||
| And then she says that forever destroyed my belief in polygraphs. | ||
| So she's basically saying, I know this guy raped this little girl, but we were able to get him off. | ||
| And she laughs about having the bloody underwear as the piece of evidence. | ||
| I mean, it's really, really intense, intense, awful shit. | ||
| And what's really crazy about it is that in this world of, like, you know, rape culture and social justice warrior liberal outrage... | ||
| There is just deafening silence when it comes to the Clintons. | ||
| Do you think it's a lack of information? | ||
| Because most people don't go looking for this stuff. | ||
| For stuff like what you're talking about, most people have to find it on Fox News and go, what? | ||
| Outrageous! | ||
| They don't go looking for it, because there's a lot you'd have to look through. | ||
| I mean, you'd have to go through all the Whitewater stuff, you'd have to go through all that Vince Foster stuff, you'd have to try to find... | ||
| There's a lot of weird stuff about them and their past that you'd have to sort through. | ||
| How much of this is legit, how much isn't. | ||
| Most people aren't going to do that. | ||
| And so it's not being discussed. | ||
| And you have to filter out, like, the just nonsense. | ||
| Because that's the problem with where we're at now, is that the truth is out in the internet, but it's sandwiched in between a whole bunch of nonsense. | ||
| And so you gotta, like, get that out of the way. | ||
| Yeah, and the conspiracy theories would say that nonsense is there on purpose. | ||
| Yes, that's right, because every conspiracy theorist, as it turns out, when I read more conspiracy theorists, it turns out they were just working for the conspiracy, and they're against Alex Jones, they all think now is working for it. | ||
| Trust me, Alex is my friend. | ||
| He's just crazy. | ||
| There's no CIA involved there. | ||
| Well, that's a fun thing when you get into stuff that people think is a conspiracy, and then you're like, oh, no, no, no, it's just a crazy guy. | ||
| Well, I've heard conspiracies that involve me. | ||
| And so when I hear that, I go, oh, I see how you... | ||
| I've read some shit about me being a CIA agent. | ||
| Like, yeah, what a circuitous route I took. | ||
| I went from kickboxing to stand-up comedy, all the while secretly undercover for the CIA. We're going to plant him in news radio, and before you know it, he'll be leading public opinion. | ||
| Dude, here's an even funnier one. | ||
| Eddie Bravo thinks that it's perhaps possible, perhaps, that Laurel Canyon was all about CIA psyops and Jim Morrison and all these musicals. | ||
| Powerful LA pot. | ||
| That they were all a part of some CIA plan to institute the drug movement. | ||
| I don't even understand the plan. | ||
| But the idea is that all these influential people came out of this Laurel Canyon area, and Jim Morrison's dad was in the CIA. And my take is like, Jesus Christ, you know how busy CIA dads are? | ||
| They're never around for their kid. | ||
| Of course their kid grows up to be Jim Morrison. | ||
| It's not that the dad was there influencing him with a fucking hypnosis to one of those watches. | ||
| You are going to be the voice of a generation. | ||
| No one engineers something like that. | ||
| All things being equal, it's best to look at the most simple answer. | ||
| Occam's razor. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| I feel like with a lot of those conspiracy theories, my take on it is you have the government, it's almost like if the government was a person, you could be like, okay, we've got them on murdering these 50 people, and we have it cold hard, they clearly did it. | ||
| And then you're like, yeah, but I heard a rumor that they also murdered another 100 people. | ||
| Can we just focus on what we know they did? | ||
| We're slaughtering people in the Middle East. | ||
| We don't need to make up all this other nonsense. | ||
| Just to make it, like, more sellable. | ||
| Well, it's this idea that we're being controlled. | ||
| That's the one that's the... | ||
| That's the overlying theme, I guess. | ||
| Or the over... | ||
| If you look at, like, all of the conspiracies, whether they're chemtrails or whether... | ||
| It's all about, like, engineering. | ||
| Like, global warming. | ||
| It's like geoengineering. | ||
| There's all this... | ||
| It's all about engineering things. | ||
| It's all about people that are worried about eugenics. | ||
| They want... | ||
| Like Alex Jones says, They want to leave 500 million people worldwide or something like that. | ||
| They have this fucking number. | ||
| Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| Are they going to be immortal? | ||
| Do they know what the fuck they're doing? | ||
| You really think that this is a plan? | ||
| To kill everyone except half a million? | ||
| Look, I do think there's some really shady plans that are up there at the top. | ||
| I think what they get wrong sometimes is they think that everything that's happening was actually controlled from the top. | ||
| I think there's plans that people, like the Bilderberg Group is real, that exists, that's out there. | ||
| And I think they do want to control the world. | ||
| But I think more often than not, they have like 10 things they want to do. | ||
| Some of them work out, some of them don't. | ||
| Then they roll with the punches on that. | ||
| Then they try to change things from there. | ||
| It's not as perfect as, like, everything they did worked out perfectly and was... | ||
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Right. | |
| But, you know, it's a little easier. | ||
| It's more of a fun story if they're just in ultimate control of everything. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Well, then you have that number, the 500 million number. | ||
| Like, why is... | ||
| How do you know that number? | ||
| That's specific. | ||
| This is what I heard. | ||
| 500 million. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| I wonder if I'd make the cut. | ||
| People start thinking about all the billions of people. | ||
| 500 million is not that much if you think about 7 billion. | ||
| They're probably going to kill all the Indians. | ||
| You start to think whether you could make the cut. | ||
| Am I top 500 million? | ||
| I'm up there. | ||
| If they're going to leave 500 million people on the planet, there's room. | ||
| There's some wiggle room there. | ||
| Okay, you're going to need like 60 comedians. | ||
| Did you want to get in, though? | ||
| I mean, what are they going to do with all those bodies? | ||
| What are they going to do with 6.5 billion bodies? | ||
| How bad is the earth going to smell for like a month? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| It's a very good point. | ||
| Have these guys thought this through? | ||
| I don't think they thought... | ||
| Well, not only that, what if you kill the wrong people? | ||
| What if the people that you kill were going to figure out a way to cure cancer or get us to Mars or, you know, you just can't... | ||
| But that's why that whole... | ||
| That's why believing, which is a much more common belief out of the conspiracy thing, but believing that population's a problem is crazy because, like you said, you never know when that... | ||
| You know, they'll, like, environmentalists, they'll be like, well, if we have too many people, then there's too big a carbon footprint. | ||
| But you're like, yeah, except until we have the one person who figures out how to save all of us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then that got, you know. | ||
| You need a bunch of people to get that. | ||
| You don't get that in a village with log cabins. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They don't figure out how to fix the world. | ||
| They just don't. | ||
| They need millions of people. | ||
| They need to live in cities. | ||
| Food needs to be delivered to them. | ||
| They need to be safe. | ||
| And then they can come up with ideas. | ||
| This thing is a game of numbers. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You have mad, mad numbers, man. | ||
| We gotta throw a lot. | ||
| But, oh, I did want to address what you asked before. | ||
| Oh, L.A. Pod is powerful. | ||
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Powerful, right? | |
| One hit, too. | ||
| But what you said before, when you're talking about the stuff with the Clinton tape, and you said why, you know, is it that people are, they need to find the information? | ||
| I think there is some of that, right? | ||
| Because, say, if they made this a story on the news, like, if every day they were playing, it's amazing the power the media has to choose what story we're gonna make The story. | ||
| And what story will maybe get mentioned here and then fade into obscurity. | ||
| So the media could make that a story that everyone has to deal with. | ||
| But I've found there's a lot of denial. | ||
| Like when I talk to liberals or Hillary supporters, and I'll bring that stuff up. | ||
| And there's a lot of like, yeah, well, whatever. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, whatever. | ||
| But the same people who are like, we live in a rape culture and we'll go after, like, Tosh for making a joke in bad taste. | ||
| And then you're like, well, here's this woman laughing about getting a child rapist off. | ||
| Forget some abstract contributing to rape culture. | ||
| Contributing to rape culture. | ||
| Getting a rapist who would have gone to jail back out onto the streets. | ||
| And so it's like, to me, a mix of the media doesn't do their job and then people are also kind of in denial. | ||
| Well, people are intensely tribal. | ||
| Intensely tribal in their support for brands. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Forget about political parties. | ||
| Political parties, oftentimes, are like the most tribal. | ||
| I mean, I follow people that all they do is mock liberals online, and then I follow other people where all they do is mock conservatives. | ||
| And, God, they're so similar. | ||
| They're so similar. | ||
| Oh, they're the same fucking people. | ||
| There's atheism, and then there's these people that are super religious. | ||
| There's all this God, Christian stuff on the right, and then on the left, it's like atheism is their God. | ||
| And I don't mean it in their God as like it's an actual religion. | ||
| I mean, you almost kind of have to be in that group to be on that side. | ||
| It's this weird thing that's going on, where you've got People that are subscribing to atheism nothing wrong with atheism. | ||
| It's not what I'm saying I'm just saying guys It's so universal on the left that it seems to me to be a trait that you attribute with this tribe Like almost so you have to accept this trait right and then I think and I guess that's maybe a criticism I have of like Sam Harris and I know you had him on your show recently But I think a lot of those guys who got themselves like in this camp of we're the atheists We're the ones committed to rational thought and religion is terrible And now, | ||
| they'll look at things like the wars in the Middle East, and it just seems like, to me, it seems like they have a tendency to always try to blame the religiously motivated violence. | ||
| Because I think they've kind of got themselves on, like, team anti-religion. | ||
| We're on team atheist. | ||
| So the Muslims have to be worse than the American military, because they're the religious ones. | ||
| We're, like, sophisticated and advanced, and everything about the U.S. military is built on, like, science and reason and thought, and these are crazy Muslims who are just maniacs. | ||
| So we have to blame them, even though, if you look at the numbers of dead, it's pretty staggeringly one-sided. | ||
| Like, we're murdering them. | ||
| Not only that, we're also in where they live. | ||
| So that has to be taken into account. | ||
| Well, we had to get there. | ||
| We had to go there. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| But let's just look at the actual facts. | ||
| Let's not cast any judgments. | ||
| Look at the facts. | ||
| We are where they live. | ||
| We don't speak their language. | ||
| We come in en masse and we kill a fuckload more people than they do. | ||
| And a good percentage of the people that are in the military are Christian. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Very decent size. | ||
| A very big percentage, and then a very big percentage of the hardcore supporters, the people who are really hardcore, the evangelical base that voted for George W. Bush, a big part of that support is this goofy religious belief that we need to be pro-Israel because the Jews need to be in Israel, and then Jesus can come back for us, and if some Muslims gotta get slaughtered in the process, well, this is how it's supposed to go, so we gotta protect that. | ||
| There's a lot of that weird shit on our side as well. | ||
| A lot of weird old southern money that goes into that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a great Vice piece on those people. | ||
| There's a great Vice piece where they... | ||
| I forget, you know, Vice has so many of those online shows that are awesome. | ||
| It's hard to know which one it was but they went with these people to Israel these crazy evangelicals were going back to the motherland And it's like they were like well, this is where Jesus is gonna camp You know, this is where we're gonna set up his fire here and he'll pull his trailer in right here Like they had it was almost like that in his head like he was setting up I got two Budweiser's, one for me, one for Jesus, when he gets here. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| But if you're on the right, like even Gavin McInnes, who I love. | ||
| I love Gavin. | ||
| Love Gavin. | ||
| Gavin's a bright, bright guy. | ||
| But he's also a Catholic, and he became a Catholic late in life. | ||
| So I'm like, what are you doing? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| It's almost like you have to be a part of something that's religious to get in on the right side. | ||
| Like, Glenn Beck became a Mormon when he was like 50. Like, hey dude, come on, did you even read it? | ||
| Did you read any of the history about Joseph Smith being 14 when he made all this shit up? | ||
| And the magic seer stone that he had to use to read the golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus that only he could read with this rock? | ||
| I'm torn between whether I hate Mormonism for that or I love them for that. | ||
| I'm like, hey, if we're gonna bullshit, let's just go bullshit like, yeah, Jesus, he lived in Kansas. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He was friends with my grandpa. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Well, the American Indians were actually from Israel. | ||
| That was another one of his, that this guy spent a ton of money. | ||
| You know, we were talking with, when Sam was here the other day, we were talking about how 15 years ago it was like billions of dollars to get your genome mapped. | ||
| Now it's like a couple thousand bucks. | ||
| And we were talking about how crazy that is. | ||
| Like, what an insane leap. | ||
| Well, a few years back, before it became that cheap, some dude spent a fuckton of money, it was a Mormon, to try to prove that the Mormon scriptures were in fact correct, and the American Indians did come. | ||
| But we learned from that, actually. | ||
| It actually wound up being good for science, because this guy spent so much money. | ||
| We realized, no, they actually came from Siberia. | ||
| So it reinforces the idea of them crossing the landmass, the Bering Strait, and Interesting. | ||
| So they are Siberian. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| The merge or the movement, migration of people from Asia to North America and down into Mexico, and it's really fucking cool when you find out that it's Not that long ago. | ||
| A few thousand years. | ||
| At the most, 20. Whatever it was. | ||
| During the Ice Age. | ||
| It's not that long ago, man. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| History is a weird thing like that. | ||
| Even when we talk about World War II. World War II was that long ago. | ||
| Your grandfather was there. | ||
| That's just happened. | ||
| Just happened, historically. | ||
| Yeah, Vietnam. | ||
| And how about Vietnam? | ||
| There's one that the conspiracy theories can really grab ahold of. | ||
| The Gulf of Tonkin. | ||
| Well, yeah, but that's my point from before. | ||
| It's like, why are we even wasting our time with anything else? | ||
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Right. | |
| Let's grab that one and hold on to that one. | ||
| That was bullshit. | ||
| We know that was bullshit. | ||
| Tens of thousands of Americans died in that war, let alone how many Vietnamese we just slaughtered. | ||
| It's like mass slaughter that people made billions off of that was bullshit. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| We don't need any more. | ||
| False flag attack. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look it up, folks. | ||
| I mean, if you're listening to this going, what? | ||
| You're sitting on your porch in Georgia with your lemonade and hating black people? | ||
| Just go online. | ||
| And it's fun. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Who doesn't want to sit on their porch with lemonade and hate black people? | ||
| I know I do. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| If you really do read that story, it's horrific. | ||
| And then you realize, oh, well, deception was the rule of the land at that time. | ||
| This was when they had the Operation Northwoods thing that had been passed. | ||
| And if you haven't seen that document, that's crazy. | ||
| This was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and then vetoed by Kennedy, where they were going to attack American civilians. | ||
| They were going to bomb Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| They were going to arm Cuban friendlies, and they were going to give them weapons to attack Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| They were going to blow a drone jetliner out of the sky, blame it on Castro, and wind up killing a ton of people. | ||
| And they were doing it all just to get support of this idea of attacking Cuba. | ||
| So they were going to pretend that all these people died. | ||
| Could they take off in a plane back then? | ||
| I'm not sure where the drone technology was at, but this was the plan. | ||
| It was a plan that I think Kennedy himself had to not sign off on or whatever. | ||
| And they took care of him quickly. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| That's the other conspiracy, right? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone seems to me to be even a dumber conspiracy than there was a bunch of people involved killing that guy. | ||
| I couldn't agree with you more on that one. | ||
| But it's just... | ||
| The Northwood thing is just a fascinating glimpse into the mindset of the people who are on the inside, who really do view the world as pawns on a chessboard. | ||
| And if a lie is what it took to get the geopolitical result that they wanted and some Americans had to die or whatever, that's not a big deal. | ||
| And... | ||
| I think people should be aware of that. | ||
| Like anyone, a lot of times, like you were talking about getting in the team mentality, people kind of have this team mentality and they're like, well, they don't, you know, if someone's willing to just slaughter people in a third world country to make their buddies rich, I'd be careful with them around your kids too. | ||
| You know, like they're probably looking at everybody like they're pawns on a board, not just those guys. | ||
| Yeah, I think people learn really quickly how to disassociate. | ||
| They learn how to not think about that, especially when you're using like drone technology and stuff. | ||
| You're flying a robot and shooting missiles out of a robot and you're watching it all on a screen. | ||
| How easy is it to distance yourself from that if you're the person, not even who's pushing the button, but who gave the order to give the okay? | ||
| You know, and when I talked to Mike Baker on here was a former CIA operator. | ||
| Yeah, I've been on a few Fox News shows with him. | ||
| You told me all that stuff is done by lawyers. | ||
| They all decide, like, can we do this? | ||
| Can we do this? | ||
| And the lawyers sit down, they hash it out, and they give them the green light or the red light. | ||
| I'm like, whoa, that is fucking dark. | ||
| When you're leaving military matters and whether or not you attack with a flying robot to lawyers, arguably the most heartless creatures we've ever created in our capitalist society. | ||
| And by the way, that's who's running government, right? | ||
| That's what Hillary Clinton is. | ||
| That's what Hillary Clinton is, what Obama is, what Michelle Obama is, what Bill Clinton was. | ||
| I mean, that's what they all are. | ||
| They're all lawyers. | ||
| Not to say there's not great lawyers. | ||
| There's awesome people out there that are lawyers. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
| But even if you're an awesome person that's a lawyer, you fucking know some psychos. | ||
| Let me tell you, the awesome person who's a lawyer is the most adamant, like, do not put lawyers in charge. | ||
| Dear God. | ||
| That's like, look, I'm a comedian, but if you were like, should comedians be in charge? | ||
| I would be like, Jesus, no. | ||
| We won't make it through this podcast. | ||
| Yeah, they shouldn't be in charge of anything. | ||
| Even comedy we shouldn't be in charge of. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Can't be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because then you get these alt rooms. | ||
| They get mad at you if you talk loud. | ||
| When people are in charge of anything, they fuck it up. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But you're talking about the Drone Wars. | ||
| There's this guy, this brilliant historian, Tom Woods. | ||
| I don't know if you've heard of him. | ||
| I have heard of him. | ||
| He's got a great podcast. | ||
| He's incredible. | ||
| To me, maybe the smartest libertarian voice out there. | ||
| What's his podcast called? | ||
| It's called The Tom Woods Show. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Yeah, you would love him, I think. | ||
| He would be great on your show. | ||
| I didn't know he had a podcast. | ||
| Yeah, he's got a podcast. | ||
| He's just a brilliant historian. | ||
| He nails all this stuff, but he uses this analogy, and I love it. | ||
| He just goes, so imagine we used the drone campaign. | ||
| Imagine we fought crime that way. | ||
| So imagine someone was like, so we've got two suspected criminals at a wedding in California somewhere. | ||
| So the plan is we're going to bomb the wedding. | ||
| I mean, wouldn't everybody just be like, whoa, that's not okay. | ||
| You can't do that because there's innocent human life there. | ||
| But literally, that's just how we conduct the war in the Middle East. | ||
| Yeah, but they don't, it's sort of disingenuous because they don't know it's a wedding. | ||
| They just see a group of people gathered and then they know the dickhead's in there and they want to blow them up. | ||
| And then it turns out to be a wedding and we're like, oh, shit. | ||
| Okay, so still, put that in the analogy. | ||
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It's fucked up. | |
| It's fucked up. | ||
| Say that's how we fought crime. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Well, we just follow the metadata on your cell phones, and wherever you happen to be, we're going to blow that place up. | ||
| Yeah, that's what's important to point out, too, is that they're shooting at phones. | ||
| They don't even have a visual ID on the person. | ||
| They find where the phone is. | ||
| They do the find my iPhone feature. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| With the eye in the sky. | ||
| And then they launch an aptly named Hellfire missile at it. | ||
| That's dark, too. | ||
| They have cool nicknames for their missiles. | ||
| Hellfire. | ||
| Oh, dude, they do all this shit. | ||
| Although, like, you've seen, like, the Operation names. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| It's always, like, Operation Kick-Ass. | ||
| Desert Storm! | ||
| Desert Shield! | ||
| Jesus Christ, just fucking 18 year olds blasting ACDC rolling through some fucking town. | ||
| It's like, Jesus! | ||
| Well, have you ever seen those pieces that they've done on those kids that were involved in... | ||
| Like, operating those tanks that would listen to metal? | ||
| I mean, that's bizarre, too. | ||
| You're letting these kids get jacked up on metal, and who knows what else you let them have? | ||
| They probably let them have amphetamines. | ||
| They definitely let them have steroids. | ||
| They give steroids to soldiers. | ||
| That's common shit. | ||
| Yeah, and there's a reason they prefer an 18-year-old to a 30-year-old. | ||
| I mean, there's a reason they prefer, you know, someone who's still in just as good fighting shape, you know, essentially. | ||
| But when you're 18, you're in a different place, your levels are at a different place, and your willingness to follow orders, I think, is in a different place. | ||
| Well, we're all essentially like... | ||
| You know older people being wiser if they've had enough experiences, but we're all gathering experiences gathering experiences and then Calculating trying to figure okay. | ||
| Why'd that go wrong? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Oh, here's that fucking thing again. | ||
| Oh, here's this. | ||
| Oh, I see how it goes You know, that's why as people get older they get less and less tolerant of certain things because they see these things over and over and over again And they recognize these patterns and you get more confident in your assertion of that pattern because you're like I've seen this That's bullshit six times now. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And it works that way with politics, too. | ||
| Like, that's the common expression about radicals in college. | ||
| You know, show me a young man who's not a liberal, and I'll show you a man without a heart. | ||
| Show me an old man who's not a conservative, and I'll show you a man without a brain. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because after a while you go, oh, I see. | ||
| You know, and it's not black and white when it comes to that issue, but when you're dealing with something that, you know, a human being that gathers up this data. | ||
| When you're 18, What do you got? | ||
| A couple fucking birthday parties you remember? | ||
| The first time you got your dick sucked was only six months ago? | ||
| Like, what do you remember? | ||
| What do you have to base on? | ||
| What do you know? | ||
| Movies? | ||
| You watch a lot of movies? | ||
| That's probably what they're basing it on. | ||
| They think their life's gonna be some fucking Tom Hanks movie. | ||
| They're gonna come back and cry to their kids when they're younger, when they're older rather, about, you know, I served in the war, served my country, did my country proud. | ||
| Now, you might go home with no legs. | ||
| Like, you're in a crazy situation where you're killing people you don't know because someone you don't know told you you're supposed to kill people you don't know. | ||
| They figure it out. | ||
| It's just they figure it out when they see that real shit that you're talking about. | ||
| Because, you know, there is also, that's another thing that's very, very downplayed, but should have been maybe the biggest story in, at least one of the biggest stories in the last ten years, was that Ron Paul, in the 2008 run and in the 2012 run, both runs, he got more money, more donations from active duty military people than all of the other candidates. | ||
| He got more than all the Republican candidates combined in 2012. And he outraised Barack Obama both times. | ||
| So it's like there's actually a lot of people in the military who see through this bullshit and were very happy to have like the only... | ||
| I mean, Ron Paul to me is like the only... | ||
| Politician on a presidential level in recent memory who has been unapologetically anti-war. | ||
| And not just like this hasn't worked, like this is a bullshit racket. | ||
| And we started it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, when you get that many active military on your side, you really have to really think, well, these are the people that are dealing with this issue. | ||
| It's a part of their life. | ||
| It affects their families, it affects their friends, their loved ones, all the people they serve with. | ||
| The whole thing is... | ||
| It's so hard to believe that they've been able to keep this going for so long. | ||
| And this war, with no end, this war against terrorism, is one of the most devious things. | ||
| Because whether or not terrorism exists, it certainly does. | ||
| Whether or not we have to combat terrorism, we certainly do. | ||
| Whether or not we have to take measures to ensure the safety of the people, we definitely do. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But there's something really suspicious about an unnamed enemy. | ||
| Or an unseen enemy. | ||
| Or an enemy that's just terrorism. | ||
| It's like herpes just floating through all these parts of the world. | ||
| There's not even a country with a leader anymore. | ||
| Now it's just terrorism. | ||
| Well, it works out pretty great if you're a weapons company that's making more money than ever. | ||
| Or if you wanted to keep this military budget... | ||
| You know, liberals were all outraged over George W. Bush's military budgets, and Obama greatly expanded those. | ||
| And so, yeah, if you're making tons of money off it, it works out great to have kind of this vague concept that we're fighting a war against. | ||
| I do think terrorism, obviously, like you said, exists. | ||
| I think terrorism, as Pat Buchanan said, is the price of empire. | ||
| And it kind of always has been. | ||
| And this is what we're going to be dealing with as long as we want to have an empire in the Middle East. | ||
| Right, but now it's not like one particular enemy. | ||
| It's this vague threat of attacks by irrational people, and then you see them scattered throughout the world and other places where they don't have the kind of security that we do. | ||
| So it reinforces our idea that the TSA is important, and you've got to get through that line, and you've got to be nice to these people. | ||
| Even though they failed on like 95%. | ||
| Did you see that test? | ||
| They failed 95% of the fake knives and bombs. | ||
| These are all getting in. | ||
| They're just feeling up old people. | ||
| Yeah, they felt me up the other day. | ||
| Did they? | ||
| Dude, check my dick. | ||
| Yeah, that happened to me. | ||
| With the back of his hand, he had to go up to both sides of my dick. | ||
| Did he give you the nice explanation about how he's going to do it? | ||
| And then, sir, we're going to feel with the back of our hand. | ||
| The guy who did it to me, and like I said earlier, I'm no conspiracy theorist, but when they're like, you've been randomly selected for additional screening, inside I'm like, it was that last podcast, huh? | ||
| I hit something. | ||
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Is that what you think? | |
| No. | ||
| I was just going to think it was some gay stuff. | ||
| You know what he said to me? | ||
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What? | |
| Nice package, bro. | ||
| He goes, no, that would be more uncomfortable. | ||
| But he said before he did it, I don't know if the guy said it to you, but he goes, if you want, we can bring you to a private room for this. | ||
| Yeah, they did say that. | ||
| And I was like, dude, we're going to do this right here, right now. | ||
| I don't want to do this in a private room. | ||
| Ew, what's going to happen then? | ||
| Yeah, you're going to play George Michael music? | ||
| Yeah, it's, I don't know, I mean, but it's so convenient that they need the kind of security that the NSA was trying to get, or the kind of... | ||
| Not security, but the kind of invasion of privacy that the NSA was doing with monitoring your metadata and the ability to check all your emails. | ||
| And the fact that what Snowden exposed was kind of everybody's worst fear about all this stuff. | ||
| Was that one day we're going to get to a point where they're recording everything and you're always going to be scared to speak your mind. | ||
| In private, in public, with your friends. | ||
| Because you think they could always hear. | ||
| And if there's certain key things that you say that upset them, well, they could just target you. | ||
| Because people in the NSA were actively targeting their ex's email accounts and reading their ex's emails. | ||
| Of course it's going to happen. | ||
| It's human beings. | ||
| A friend of mine worked at a bank, and he told me how they had a big problem with people checking on celebrities' accounts, checking on other people, other friends of theirs' accounts. | ||
| It's human nature. | ||
| Personally, I think the biggest thing that Snowden... | ||
| He exposed, more so than any particular program, was that he exposed that that guy Clapper said, you know, Clapper was, I think, just six months, a year before Snowden released those files through Glenn Greenwald at The Guardian. | ||
| He, before a congressional hearing, goes, there is no bulk mass data collection. | ||
| And that's what's amazing about what Snowden showed you. | ||
| Just understand that. | ||
| They will lie through their fucking teeth to you. | ||
| They're liars. | ||
| They're not misguided, or they don't know what's happening. | ||
| They're telling you what they think you need to know so they can get away with their bullshit. | ||
| And that, to me, is a very important thing for people to realize. | ||
| Well, that's the real insidious problem with the us-versus-them idea. | ||
| They're just people, too. | ||
| So you have people that are... | ||
| Operating these mass surveillance programs on other people. | ||
| There's nothing essentially noble about them. | ||
| They haven't passed any tests. | ||
| They haven't shown themselves to be some people that are devoid of jealousy and pettiness and clear thought always. | ||
| And they're just the smartest people we know. | ||
| So we give them this position because they're like the knights of the watch. | ||
| Well, right. | ||
| You just go, oh, the wise overlords are- They will watch us. | ||
| They will protect us. | ||
| You know, I was arguing- I was arguing with, what's his name, who you brought up? | ||
| Baker. | ||
| I was on a panel with him on a Fox News show. | ||
| And we were talking about it was the Apple versus the FBI thing, which I guess is still going on. | ||
| So I was kind of siding with Apple, and he was siding with the FBI. And I remember Baker said to me, he was like, Dave, what are you worried? | ||
| Are you worried they're going to be checking your emails or checking your phone? | ||
| You know, like that kind of attitude. | ||
| I was like, the FBI was spying on civil rights leaders being run by a cross-dressing maniac. | ||
| Like, yeah, I don't trust these people. | ||
| I don't trust those people any more than I trust any group of people. | ||
| Yeah, the fact that they think that that organization has been cleaned up. | ||
| Like, how much? | ||
| J. Edgar Hoover and what they did during the... | ||
| Well, it's coming out now more... | ||
| It's really interesting, the stories that are coming out now about how the war on drugs was a big part of their plan to try to break down the civil rights movement and break down these anti-war protesters because it's one thing they shared in common. | ||
| They were all doing drugs. | ||
| So they said, okay, we'll just have a fucking crazy war on drugs and we'll just go in and get these people. | ||
| They're going to be smoking pot. | ||
| We'll just arrest the shit out of them and just break up everything. | ||
| And they really did. | ||
| And it was... | ||
| It's brilliant in terms of strategy if you're going to go after your enemies. | ||
| It's a great way to do it. | ||
| But we're still suffering the consequences of Nixon's actions from J. Edgar Hoover's guidance. | ||
| That's the whole pile that that was operating under. | ||
| Yeah, and then you get this whole system of mass incarceration and private prisons and this whole nightmare. | ||
| J. Edgar Hoover was awesome, though. | ||
| You gotta love a guy who's wearing a dress, cross-dressing, banging dudes, keeping secrets. | ||
| And it's not like doing that today when it's cool. | ||
| He was doing this at a time when if it came out, people would be just, I mean, you're ruined. | ||
| Well, that was how he kept it all under wraps. | ||
| The reason that guy was so into getting into other people's shit is because he had so much shit to expose. | ||
| He's like, well, I can't let this get out. | ||
| I gotta be proactive. | ||
| I just gotta gather up data on everybody. | ||
| Fuck Elvis. | ||
| Fuck, you know, Jimmy Page. | ||
| He just went after everybody. | ||
| I also think that there's something inherently, like, if you're in the cross-dressing, banging dude scene, you're gonna meet other people with dirt, too. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So, like, you know, the other guy who you're like, hey, look, we both know we're in that scene together, so you keep your mouth shut. | ||
| That's true, too, but I was like, that's one of those things where people always say that if you are with a partner, and that partner all of a sudden starts getting, like, crazy, irrationally jealous. | ||
| It's probably because they're doing something sneaky. | ||
| And what he was doing was sort of that. | ||
| J. Edgar Hoover was a fucking maniac. | ||
| And he was in charge of the FBI. I mean, he was just a bona fide, insane person. | ||
| But, like you said, it's like, who's to say they're cleaned up? | ||
| I think we always have this idea that we get comfortable with the fucked up shit in the past. | ||
| So we're like, oh, this was so fucked up, but now it's not like that or anything. | ||
| You know, we love to look back at slavery or look back at Jim Crow or look back at something like, oh, what were these people thinking? | ||
| But if you look at, I mean, mass incarceration for nonviolent crimes or mass slaughter in the Middle East or any of this stuff that these people, believe me, if all the details of what's going on came out in 20 years, we're going to have the same attitude in 20 years and be like, oh, there's some fucked up shit going on in 2016. Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know what's interesting to me? | ||
| There's even tribalism in the government. | ||
| Like the CIA and the FBI don't get along, which is how, what's his name? | ||
| General, the guy who got busted for cheating on his wife. | ||
| Petraeus. | ||
| Petraeus. | ||
| That's how Petraeus got caught. | ||
| The FBI was going after the CIA. So not only that, but... | ||
| That's craziness. | ||
| So, Dianne Feinstein, who is the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, okay? | ||
| So they're tasked with overseeing the CIA. Okay. | ||
| She came out and said that the CIA is spying on them. | ||
| Like, I don't know exactly how they figured it out, but she came out and said, so the CIA is spying. | ||
| But yeah, this doesn't get a big story on the news. | ||
| So the CIA is spying on the people who oversee the CIA? Yes, supposedly. | ||
| We have no clue. | ||
| Rand Paul came out and said something along the lines of he was like, we don't even know who's running this thing when it comes to government. | ||
| So I think the thing that libertarians... | ||
| Whoa, Rand Paul said that? | ||
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| Yeah, he said this like a year and a half ago when he was still doing well. | ||
| He actually should know. | ||
| That's why that's a scary thing. | ||
| He's probably talking to people. | ||
| But there's also this weird thing where, look, I don't know exactly how it works, but there's this weird thing where they'll tell you stuff, but then you can't talk about it. | ||
| To anyone if it's like classified. | ||
| So there's actually congressmen who don't want the classified information because they want to be able to say whatever they want to be able to say. | ||
| It's a whole clusterfuck. | ||
| But I think this is one of the things that libertarians, at least the type of libertarian that I am, like that school, It really tries to emphasize, just don't look at government as if it's a different entity from humanity. | ||
| We're all people. | ||
| So it's like you were saying before, the CIA and the FBI, they're not one monolith. | ||
| It's different power sources, different groups of people, and yeah, of course they all are incentivized the way people are. | ||
| And they're a corporation like any other business where there's a bunch of people that are backstabbing each other trying to get to the top of the ladder. | ||
| So they're fucking each other over inside the tribe. | ||
| There's a lot of that going on. | ||
| It's a fucking weird world, man. | ||
| When you hear someone like Rand Paul saying, we don't know who's running this thing. | ||
| That's the government! | ||
| The whole government of the United States he's talking about. | ||
| He's talking about the strings behind the strings. | ||
| We don't know who's running it. | ||
| Well, I mean, you see, it's very interesting when you hear Hillary Clinton, it came out in one of her last batch of emails that got released. | ||
| It was like her and her team were bragging about how she had convinced Obama to go ahead with regime change in Libya. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| And then Gates comes out and writes his book, and he's like, look, I was against it. | ||
| Hillary was for it. | ||
| So it's just this fucking, like, you convinced a guy, and now this country is fucked. | ||
| Well, she, and all, yeah, and, well, also, I'm sure you saw the time where she was being interviewed, and she was laughing about Gaddafi dying. | ||
| We came, we saw he die. | ||
| When I said there's video evidence of her being a sociopath, I understand. | ||
| Gaddafi didn't just die right before that. | ||
| It's not just that you're talking about a human being who died, okay? | ||
| Gaddafi died the way that dictators fear. | ||
| You die. | ||
| His people got a hold of him and beat him and sodomized him to death. | ||
| He got like, I mean, it's about as disturbing as it could be. | ||
| What? | ||
| Again, back to her laughing about getting the child rapist off. | ||
| Then, a few days later, she's just cackling it up. | ||
| There's a video of a guy stabbing him in the asshole. | ||
| I mean, it's insane. | ||
| You've seen that, right? | ||
| He takes that knife and he shoves it in his ass while they're talking to him. | ||
| And Qaddafi's so fucked up, he doesn't even know what's happening. | ||
| He's in a state of shock or some shit's going on. | ||
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| There's a knife in his ass. | ||
| All these people have a hold of him. | ||
| They're all yelling, Allah, Wakbar. | ||
| Yeah, that's a bad way to go. | ||
| It's a crazy way to go. | ||
| I wonder if that guy with the knife in his ass, I wonder if that'll be like, you know the Iwo Jima statue? | ||
| Where they plant the flag. | ||
| They'll make a statue of the one guy with a knife up Qaddafi's ass. | ||
| That knife is over his fireplace right now. | ||
| In his neighborhood, that'll be his monument. | ||
| My uncle, he stabbed Qaddafi in the ass. | ||
| There's a video on YouTube. | ||
| Show it, Mama. | ||
| And she puts it on the big screen and everybody watches it. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Meanwhile, they're closing their ears and bombs are going off in the background. | ||
| Because Libya's even more fucked up now than it was then. | ||
| Like, that regime change was terrible for the people who lived there. | ||
| Oh, it's not even... | ||
| You know, I think we lose sight of it sometimes when you'd be like, you know, it's like, oh, well, they're always fucked up, so it's a little bit more fucked up. | ||
| But Libya was, by regional standards, one of the better places to be. | ||
| In the Middle East. | ||
| And it is now, I mean, a failed state. | ||
| It's just run by thugs and terrorist organizations. | ||
| It's a nightmare. | ||
| Yeah, it's a breeding ground for ISIS now. | ||
| Yeah, ISIS is all over the place there now. | ||
| She's weird. | ||
| She's weird because she gets all these free passes because she's a woman. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Because that's a giant part of why people want to support her. | ||
| It's almost like, you know, we got one of ours in. | ||
| You know, we're going to get one of ours in. | ||
| Like, my wife wants to vote for her because she's a woman. | ||
| I go, have you ever paid attention to what a cunt she is? | ||
| Have you really read into... | ||
| Allegedly, I should say. | ||
| Mr. Clinton, I'm intoxicated and I'm not responsible for the things I'm saying. | ||
| I don't mean it. | ||
| I'm saying all this for humor. | ||
| I mean, she's not the woman you want. | ||
| That's not what you're looking for. | ||
| She's not a scholar. | ||
| She's not a wise woman who's got some really kind words to say. | ||
| She's a lifelong career politician. | ||
| And like you said, if you talk to any Hillary supporter, it is only... | ||
| Sometimes it's not the first thing they say, but give me three reasons why you want Hillary Clinton in there. | ||
| One of them has to do with her being a woman. | ||
| I think it'd be great to see a woman do it for a change. | ||
| And by the way, that's what she runs on. | ||
| She runs on women's issues. | ||
| She plays that card all the time. | ||
| I mean, she said when Donald Trump called her on that, she was like, if I'm accused of playing the woman's card, deal me in! | ||
| That's her cadence, by the way. | ||
| Not as annoying. | ||
| You need to be a little more annoying. | ||
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| No, not the pitch. | ||
| I don't have the pitch down. | ||
| She's substitute having no charisma with just volume. | ||
| If I go louder, maybe that's charismatic. | ||
| She doesn't just have no charisma. | ||
| She's oddly transparent in her creepiness. | ||
| When she's doing these debates and Bernie Sanders is calling her out on taking all that money from the banks and how she does these speeches for a quarter million dollars and he'd like to read the transcripts, she's just sitting there while he's doing that. | ||
| Just like this weird, like, seething anger. | ||
| Oh, you know, she's smiling on the outside, but you know deep down she could fucking kill you. | ||
| And she's going over her preparation, because they prepped her for this, so you know it comes out in this weird sort of robotic Aikido move, where she's trying to push it to the side like it's a fucking thug in a Steven Seagal movie. | ||
| It's weird, man, because she doesn't really answer it. | ||
| In a way, it's the only thing that I find a positive about Hillary Clinton is that you can constantly see through her and you can point to that shit in other people and go, but see how she's full of shit. | ||
| But how about for the woman card thing? | ||
| The fact that she's been taking tens of millions of dollars from the Saudi government, something like $100 million from Muslim dictatorships. | ||
| How can you run on the women's issue? | ||
| It's like being a Jew, running on Jewish issues, and you do business with the Nazis. | ||
| So she takes this money and does what with it? | ||
| Well, they take it for the Clinton Foundation, which is like her and Bill and Chelsea's foundation, and they do all these projects, and it's all kind of in the name of charity, in the name of philanthropy, but it's pretty clearly, like, the Saudis aren't giving tens of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation because they all of a sudden decided to be really good people. | ||
| They're doing it because they know that Clintons wield a lot of influence, and this is their way of giving them money. | ||
| And the Clintons can use that as leverage to justify their association with them, because look at all the good it does. | ||
| Yeah, they can point to the good stuff, but in the meantime, they can also do all these projects, and lots of different companies can make money off these projects. | ||
| And then they get in, and we have this creepy business relationship with Saudi Arabia, who is the worst of the worst. | ||
| Like, all the shit that we... | ||
| You know, I love when the war machine... | ||
| Whenever there's a war they want, they get real humanitarian all of a sudden. | ||
| Like when Obama wanted to go back in... | ||
| Back into Iraq or when he wanted to go into Syria. | ||
| It's like, oh, these people are getting gassed. | ||
| Or, you know, there's a few hundred Yazidis up on the top of a mountain and they could die. | ||
| But when Saudi Arabia is slaughtering their own people, when Saddam was gassing people and we liked him, that was fine. | ||
| It's only when you're on the wrong side of whatever business deal we have going on, all of a sudden they're like, but think of the people. | ||
| All of a sudden John McCain cares about Muslim people. | ||
| He stops playing poker. | ||
| He's playing poker on his phone. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| Let me put this down for a moment. | ||
| Talk about the people. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little suspicious. | ||
| Well, it's less suspicious now, I guess, than it was in the 1960s and the 1950s, probably before that was even more fuckery going on. | ||
| But it seems like it's more and more difficult to pull off the really obvious Operation Northwoods type shit. | ||
| The transparency that we're enjoying today, even though there's still a lot of questions like what Jeb Bush or what Rand Paul Like, we really have no idea who's running the whole thing at the very top. | ||
| It seems like that's gonna be exposed to eventually. | ||
| It's all gonna get chipped away because information just travels way quicker now than it ever did before, and it's just too hard to hide shit, you know? | ||
| It's like, that force is on their side, too, though. | ||
| Like, we have that force of, like, information can spread, but they also have the predator drones. | ||
| Like, there was no way a president... | ||
| In the 50s or whatever, could have just had the option to say, bomb Yemen, Syria, Libya, and Pakistan, and all these different countries without sending troops there or having bases nearby. | ||
| So, you know, we have advantages, they have advantages. | ||
| Yeah, but what I was going to get at is that what's interesting is what we're seeing now from the NSA gathering data on everybody, saying we need it to keep everybody safe, it almost mirrors what J. Edgar Hoover was doing. | ||
| Because J. Edgar Hoover had all that dirt on him, and so to hide it, he just went after everybody else, keep everybody quiet, keep everybody scared. | ||
| I mean, you could make that same comparison to this strategy the NSA has employed with. | ||
| We'll just fucking monitor everything. | ||
| And then if I say, oh, this Dave guy's been talking a lot of shit. | ||
| Let's check his emails. | ||
| Oh, it's going to go bad. | ||
| Oh, look at all this. | ||
| I was joking. | ||
| I just want to say already I was joking. | ||
| But you know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's an insidious sort of device that they can use to keep you quiet. | ||
| Well, how about the fact that in 20 years, if there's some leader who's coming up who's a would-be Yeah. | ||
| And everybody's got something that could be an issue you could insert into a campaign to ruin them. | ||
| If you don't, you're boring. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| And then I don't want you president anyway. | ||
| If they can't ruin you by checking your emails, then I don't even want you president. | ||
| That's a great way to put it. | ||
| If you can't be ruined, I don't want you to be my leader. | ||
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Who are you? | |
| You fucking weirdo. | ||
| You pious weirdo from birth. | ||
| Yeah, it's like you've just been clean, like going like, I'll get power someday. | ||
| As long as I don't fuck up at all. | ||
| Oh, she looks pretty, but stay hungry. | ||
| We taught him while he was in his crib. | ||
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| They say that about George Washington because they try to make him out to be such a great brother. | ||
| His father was like, did you cut down that cherry tree? | ||
| And he was like, father, I can't tell a lie. | ||
| You're like, what type of fucking creep was George Washington? | ||
| Or maybe he had a really open relationship with his dad. | ||
| Or just a dad who loved him. | ||
| His dad was really cool and he knew, hey man, somebody chopped the tree down. | ||
| You got blisters in your hand. | ||
| What the fuck's going on, bro? | ||
| Maybe there's just really compelling evidence. | ||
| Or maybe that never fucking happened. | ||
| Or maybe more likely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, all these stories that you get from the 1600s, like, come on, man. | ||
| Those were barely people. | ||
| Those were monkeys with clothes on. | ||
| They barely knew how to write. | ||
| And historians like to tell it as if they know for a fact what happened, rather than just being like, hey, here's a nice guess at what maybe happened. | ||
| They'll be like, he thought about going left, but then he went right. | ||
| Yeah, I've always wondered if one day they'll be able to create a computer that's so powerful that it will be able to somehow through some unseen technology take account of everything that's in place as it is right now in the world then monitor for a certain amount of time and then go backwards and And try to figure out, well, all these things got into place because of these events and these motions and be able to recreate it digitally. | ||
| It sounds ridiculous right now, but if we can get to a place where they can literally do an account of everything that's happened, every pebble that's on this earth, And go, you know what? | ||
| We can extrapolate. | ||
| We can take all this data, follow it for a short amount of time, and then within a 99% accuracy, go back in time and recreate events. | ||
| That sounds so stupid and ridiculous, but that might be like almost a method of a virtual time travel, like just super calculation. | ||
| Just take into account all the things that we do know, all the pieces that are in place right now, everything that's there, all the people that are there, and then figure out how they got there. | ||
| Account for all factors. | ||
| Yeah, account for everything. | ||
| Massive, super calculations, impossible for the human mind to even conceive of. | ||
| And then, boom, they have a digital recreation of George Washington fucking his sister, lying about the cherry tree. | ||
| He was full of shit the whole time. | ||
| Lighting black people on fire. | ||
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Whoa, George Washington was a piece of shit. | |
| Allegedly. | ||
| I don't mean that, folks. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| Hillary's an alleged cunt. | ||
| George Washington, allegedly piece of shit. | ||
| It'd be incredible. | ||
| I mean, if they could literally get to a position where they could do a calculation that's so complete that they could feed it into some sort of a... | ||
| You know, someday created virtual reality machine that will give you, like, a version of that. | ||
| You can go back and watch the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. | ||
| If humans can manage to not, like, destroy ourselves or we don't have some asteroid reset or something like that, we're gonna do magical shit like that, I'm sure. | ||
| I mean, we're already doing magic compared to what we could do a hundred years ago, so, I mean, we're gonna... | ||
| The thing is, you can never predict what it would be. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You can never stand back in... | ||
| You can't stand back in the year 1850 and be like, it'll be metal machines running on dinosaur juice. | ||
| You just wouldn't know. | ||
| But we'll be doing some magical shit. | ||
| Well, Sam Harris was talking about it, and it was... | ||
| Freaking me out. | ||
| Because he was talking about the power that computers are going to have once artificial intelligence becomes sentient. | ||
| The power that they're going to have to improve upon themselves. | ||
| And how quickly that's going to take place. | ||
| Where thousands of years of progress is going to take place in a week. | ||
| And you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? | ||
| And then it's just from there, each time they improve, it improves exponentially. | ||
| Thousands more years, maybe in an hour. | ||
| Thousands more years in a couple of seconds. | ||
| It's just going to get to some insane place where you're saying, they're reasonably certain that one day we'll have a machine. | ||
| It's like an atom machine that you could shoot out into the universe and given an amount of time extracting all the building materials and needs from the sky, it'll make a planet. | ||
| It'll make a planet and inhabit that planet with intelligent life. | ||
| And then we can go there. | ||
| And it'll be like Miami in the sky. | ||
| We'll go there. | ||
| I mean, literally, you could create anything. | ||
| We might already be living in it. | ||
| This is how we all got here. | ||
| That's one of Elon Musk's more recent talks. | ||
| He talked about that. | ||
| But a lot of people have been saying that for a long time. | ||
| That it's potentially possible that one day we're going to have an artificial reality that's indecipherable. | ||
| You can't tell the difference between what is fake and what is real. | ||
| You will not be able to distinguish it. | ||
| It will be so good that it will be just like life. | ||
| So if that's the case, how do you know that you're not already in it? | ||
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| You don't. | ||
| And it's all mumbo jumbo right now, unless you think that it could have already happened. | ||
| Then it's not mumbo jumbo. | ||
| And if Harris is right, the real problem with that, and this is not... | ||
| Even his ideas, this is all these people that are really at the forefront of all this technology. | ||
| We're not going to be. | ||
| But something is going to be a god. | ||
| I mean, it literally is going to be able to create worlds. | ||
| It's potentially possible that one day they're going to have something that could create a universe. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, I think there's an argument that that's how we're created. | ||
| I mean, we're here. | ||
| Like, we are here. | ||
| We do exist. | ||
| And truthfully, in the reductionist, atheist, scientific way of looking at it, there's no good reason for that. | ||
| But of course there is. | ||
| See, I don't buy that. | ||
| Because the universe is filled with magical shit. | ||
| Like, why wouldn't people be here? | ||
| Look at supernovas. | ||
| Look at black holes absorbing galaxies. | ||
| Look at solar storms. | ||
| Look at flares. | ||
| Look at this fucking ball of fire that's in the sky that's a million times bigger than us. | ||
| Why is it so weird that people exist? | ||
| The whole thing is fucking madness. | ||
| Well, I guess, yeah, I agree with you. | ||
| I'm just saying the whole thing is magical already. | ||
| Why are humans more magic? | ||
| We're not any more magic than everything that's already out there. | ||
| How about the Big Bang? | ||
| The whole thing is based on magic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The whole universe... | ||
| And the idea of something being created from nothing, it makes no sense. | ||
| Well, smaller than the head of a pin, and for whatever reason, instantaneously explodes to create all the mass, both seen and unseen, that's in the galaxy, including dark matter. | ||
| You get to a conversation with this point where we show we almost should just come back to just being religious like let's just follow the fucking book Like Mormonism where it's so dumb that it's kind of comforting that you might be beating everyone Yeah, that all these other people like join in on this dumb shit and y'all agree and you call each other elders and you're only 12 There's something about just belief though like like belief might be beating Skepticism. | ||
| I mean, I know they do these things where they measure how your brain acts when those people are like speaking in tongues and stuff and you go to some weird place and just convincing yourself to be certain of what this existence is. | ||
| Might just put you on a whole different level. | ||
| It's like, oh, it doesn't even matter what you're believing and you're just as long as you're believing, right? | ||
| Well, it exists in a really practical form in fighting and though you're you're a big MMA fan It exists in a really practical form in fighting because you know when I When I was coaching young people back during the taekwondo competing days I coached a lot of young people and I brought a lot of people to tournaments and stuff like that a lot of students and one of the things that I found was that smarter people had a harder time with competing Like a lot of the really smart people that I talked to, | ||
| and then I would try to talk to them about it, and what I realized is they're more aware of the variables. | ||
| They're more aware of what could go wrong, and that would create anxiety, and it was very difficult to get people to just like, okay, you have to stay on the path of what you're trying to do. | ||
| You can't look off to the side of the road, the fact that this cliff goes a thousand feet down to the bottom of the canyon. | ||
| You can't look at that. | ||
| You've got to look on the road, just the road. | ||
| And for a lot of smart people, they're like, fuck, what if I get hit? | ||
| What happens if you get hit? | ||
| Like, oh, well, you're fucked if you get kicked in the face. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't get kicked in the face. | ||
| Keep your hands up. | ||
| You got to move. | ||
| And dumb people were, like, convinced that they were going to be fine. | ||
| And I was always fascinated by that. | ||
| I was like, this is weird. | ||
| Because what's interesting is when the dumb people lost, it was way more difficult for them to rebound. | ||
| Whereas the smart people lost and they go, all right, well, I saw that coming. | ||
| Now I have to decide whether or not I still want to compete. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Is this the risk I still want to take? | ||
| Now I'm aware of the consequences. | ||
| I knew it was coming. | ||
| So what technically went wrong and how am I physically? | ||
| And you would see people that were intelligent rebound and they would figure out a way to overcome the challenge or try to at least. | ||
| Whereas a lot of smart people, or a lot of dumb people rather, were devastated by losses. | ||
| Because it's almost like you took away that simple belief of theirs. | ||
| Now they have to, you know... | ||
| This one guy I remember, he was talking about how he was such a good person. | ||
| I can't believe this. | ||
| You know, I follow the Lord's word. | ||
| I'm a good person. | ||
| Why'd God do this to me? | ||
| I was like, oh, no. | ||
| Now he's questioning his very existence. | ||
| Yeah, that's rough. | ||
| That's a weird thing to see someone have that... | ||
| Because there's an amazing confidence that you have to have. | ||
| Or like a... | ||
| At least you have to get yourself to that place to compete in MMA, like you said, without looking at the side of the road. | ||
| And when you see that broken, I mean, I saw that Ellen interview with Ronda Rousey. | ||
| That was so crazy to me. | ||
| That really made me go, like, maybe she shouldn't fight for a little while. | ||
| Like, I don't know. | ||
| She needs some more time off because she went from being the, like, I'm going to kill everyone. | ||
| No one has a right to beat me. | ||
| Don't be a be nothing bitch. | ||
| And being that chick to being like, I wanted to kill myself. | ||
| I got to just have Travis Brown's babies. | ||
| And I was like, whoa. | ||
| She's gone from being this, like, untouchable. | ||
| I mean, not even like she was, like, the best female fighter. | ||
| It was like, don't even, she's wrecking chicks in a second. | ||
| And then to seeing her kind of broken. | ||
| Well, what's interesting is these themes play themselves out over and over again, and the traps are all there, but everybody keeps going for the candy, and they keep getting caught in the traps. | ||
| The traps of Hollywood are always there for any superstar athlete, especially fighters. | ||
| And, you know, we've seen it all throughout history with Tommy Morrison gets in the Rocky movie. | ||
| And all of a sudden, everybody's looking at him like, Tommy Morrison's going to be the White Hope. | ||
| And then Ray Mercer beats the living fuck out of him. | ||
| And you just saw, like, fear and overwhelming anxiety attack him because he's in this movie and he's on the red carpet. | ||
| And everybody's saying, you're going to be the champ one day, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, fuck! | ||
| And then it becomes this whole thing. | ||
| He's hanging with Sylvester Stallone. | ||
| They're probably doing blow and banging hookers. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| But you know what I mean? | ||
| It's like it becomes this Hollywood trap. | ||
| And Rhonda was a, and still is, a giant superstar, right? | ||
| She's this undefeated women's fighter. | ||
| She's crushing all the competition. | ||
| She looks like a destroyer. | ||
| And then the fucking traps. | ||
| All these movies start coming out. | ||
| All these deals start getting made. | ||
| Books start getting written. | ||
| All these television shows and all this stuff and all the traps. | ||
| And all those traps, they keep your focus. | ||
| They steal little bits of your focus. | ||
| You're like, I'm good enough to get by without all that focus. | ||
| But there's no way. | ||
| Because there's another person like you out there. | ||
| There's a lot of people like you out there. | ||
| And they don't have those traps. | ||
| And if they don't have those traps, they're going to have more attention that's being perpetuated. | ||
| Right away they have an advantage. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because they're full focused on this. | ||
| And there's also something dangerous to someone like Ronda Rousey. | ||
| By the way, obviously it's just incredible. | ||
| I mean, she's the reason why women's MMA is a huge thing. | ||
| But I think there's something dangerous about being such an amazing grappler, getting a couple knockouts... | ||
| And all of a sudden feeling this kind of like, you know, she got the knee to McMahon and stopped her with one knee. | ||
| And then what was the other chick who she hit the overhand who face planted? | ||
| Alexis Davis. | ||
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| And so now it's kind of going in there and even going in there with like a world-class boxer like Holly Holm. | ||
| She kind of goes in there with like, well, I can knock people out too. | ||
| And I think that's a dangerous, you know. | ||
| All of that is a dangerous combination. | ||
| It's like being a blue belt and you choke out a bunch of white belts and you think you're the shit and then all of a sudden you're rolling with Damian Maia and he wraps you up like a Christmas present and beats the fuck out of you and chokes you unconscious. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| You know, I mean, there's levels of everything and to deny those levels because anybody who looked at her fights would see like, okay, you have this Ronda Rousey, this fierce competitor, which is one of the best judo examples of judo we've ever seen in MMA. I I mean, her judo is spectacular. | ||
| The reason why she was a medalist in the Olympics. | ||
| I mean, she's a sensational competitor. | ||
| Her grappling is outstanding. | ||
| Her armbar technique is amongst the best in the world. | ||
| But she's knocking out these girls. | ||
| They're nowhere near world class as far as kickboxing and striking is concerned. | ||
| Holly Holm is 100% world class. | ||
| She is an 18-time world boxing champion. | ||
| I mean, she's a kickboxing champion. | ||
| She was an MMA competitor for a couple of years before she got into the UFC, where she was having these ridiculous head kick KOs. | ||
| She's a beast. | ||
| And for her to think that she's going to treat... | ||
| This woman, this Holly Holm woman, the same way she was able to bully, like, Betch Koheya. | ||
| And I say bully, not in a negative way. | ||
| I mean, just attack her and go after her. | ||
| Betch Koheya, she's slow and awkward and not that athletic. | ||
| Holly Holm bounces around that cage like a fucking kangaroo. | ||
| She does all these back flips and shit. | ||
| She's spectacularly athletic. | ||
| And the idea that you're gonna have the same approach that you used on Betch Gohea with someone like Holly Holm, that's just madness. | ||
| And that's something that happens when people get so absorbed with this idea that they're special. | ||
| So absorbed with this idea that, you know, when you're on top, you think you are the fucking person. | ||
| You're the woman, you're the man, you're the shit. | ||
| No one's gonna fuck with you. | ||
| I'm just running through this bitch. | ||
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| And then you get cracked. | ||
| And then you realize, oh, this game doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| This game doesn't give a fuck about your charisma. | ||
| It doesn't give a fuck about the Vegas odds. | ||
| It doesn't give a fuck about how much money you made or how many times you've been on Entourage or how many movie deals. | ||
| It's an amazing thing about MMA. It's why I have so much respect for everybody who competes, but it's like no one... | ||
| Can escape this game's wrath? | ||
| No, I mean like John Jones still has a lot of his career to go and he does he has one loss in his record But it's not dominant, you know win But you know you see these guys like you see Anderson Silva and he's just like he's a ninja He's untouchable. | ||
| He's the greatest fighter ever and then you see him like crying on the ground with a shattered not shattered But whatever when he broke his uh his shin Well, how about when he cried on the ground after he won against Nick Diaz? | ||
| Yeah He fell to the ground. | ||
| He was my favorite fighter ever, by the way, Nick Diaz. | ||
| He's pretty awesome. | ||
| I mean, the Diaz brothers are just the greatest fighters of all time. | ||
| They certainly are. | ||
| But yeah, from going full circle then, when he comes back and wins in the octagon. | ||
| But I mean, it's an incredible thing. | ||
| It makes you... | ||
| Look, I mean, when watching Chuck Liddell, who I just, you know, at a certain point, you were like, that guy's just unbeatable. | ||
| He's like Superman. | ||
| And to see him get knocked out and kind of his chin, you know... | ||
| Slowly start to go. | ||
| Yeah, it's like this game. | ||
| This game doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| Doesn't give a fuck about your opinions. | ||
| Doesn't give a fuck about what you think. | ||
| When knuckles hit chins, legs go limp. | ||
| And that's just how it goes. | ||
| And we saw that in the Rockhold Bisping fight. | ||
| You know, Rockhold had this look about him that almost like he was bored. | ||
| That he was just like, pssh, I'm gonna go. | ||
| I mean, part of that, I'm sure, is gamesmanship. | ||
| He's trying to get inside Bisping's head. | ||
| That he's so much better than him that he doesn't even have to be serious and be concerned. | ||
| And then... | ||
| Bisping clips him with his left hook over the shoulder where he's barely seeing it. | ||
| You called it. | ||
| It was a great example. | ||
| You said like a few beats before that we were like, Ruckel's keeping his chin right up in the air and he's kind of like a little lackadaisical. | ||
| I remember you in the... | ||
| In the Hennenborough-Dillashaw fight, the first one was like a huge upset. | ||
| No one saw that coming. | ||
| And I remember you saying, as it was, you're like, man, Dillashaw's really light on his feet. | ||
| Dillashaw's really relaxed. | ||
| Like, sometimes you could just see a little thing in the way they're moving. | ||
| They're like, hmm, that's kind of interesting. | ||
| Yeah, I was telling you before we started recording my... | ||
| Hilarious comedian, one of my best friends, Louis J. Gomez. | ||
| He does a radio show with Michael Bisbing. | ||
| And you've had Big J on the show before. | ||
| The three of us do a podcast called Legion of Skanks. | ||
| You've got to have Louis on. | ||
| You'll fucking love him. | ||
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| I love Jay. | ||
| Yeah, Jay's got a special coming out, which is going to be just incredible. | ||
| What's it on? | ||
| Comedy Central Hour. | ||
| Oh, cool. | ||
| Coming out on, I believe... | ||
| I want to say June 17th. | ||
| Yeah, nice. | ||
| It's like one of those days. | ||
| It's called Live at Webster Hall. | ||
| It's going to be a fucking incredible special. | ||
| Look for that. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Jay's like one of the funniest comedians on the planet. | ||
| Very funny too. | ||
| And Louis J. Gomez is just one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life. | ||
| He's a great comedian. | ||
| He's like bigger than a stand-up comedian. | ||
| He's like the Bert Kreischer of the East Coast. | ||
| He's just a hilarious person. | ||
| So he's doing a show with Michael Bisbing. | ||
| They do a show called The Countdown on Sirius Radio. | ||
| And he started doing the show. | ||
| I mean, this is before Bisping has the Anderson Silva fight. | ||
| And it did almost seem kind of like Bisping was a great fighter, a big name, but seemed like he was kind of, you know, going toward the end of his career. | ||
| Like he had a couple injuries, had the eye thing. | ||
| And you're kind of like, oh, he was a contender. | ||
| Well, explain. | ||
| The eye thing, because the eye thing's pretty bad. | ||
| You probably know better than me. | ||
| He has a detached retina and he has oil in his eye. | ||
| They had to inject oil into where his eye sits so that his retina won't tear again. | ||
| So he has one eye that looks almost like cross-eyed and it's kind of black, like he's on ecstasy, like one pupil's dilated. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| And he doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| He's got that one eye fucked up and he doesn't give a shit. | ||
| He's still going in there and slinging. | ||
| That guy's born for this. | ||
| This motherfucker went out and fought Anderson Silva in one of the gutsiest performances I've ever seen. | ||
| The first two rounds that he beat Anderson were just incredible. | ||
| And then the fact that he got almost put out in the third round and came back and won the fourth round. | ||
| And it was a fucked up thing because he was trying to say that his mouthpiece was out. | ||
| And he tried to circle to... | ||
| I don't know who the referee was. | ||
| I think it was Herb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Herb's like, look, it doesn't matter. | ||
| I'm not stopping. | ||
| You can't call when to stop the action. | ||
| Because you could say that the mouthpiece is out. | ||
| Or you could just spit your mouthpiece out whenever someone's landing a big shot and then go, time, time out. | ||
| And people do do that. | ||
| But, you know, Herb was like, look, you can't say to me that your mouthpiece is out. | ||
| I know your mouthpiece is out, but you got to keep fighting. | ||
| And then boom! | ||
| Anderson lands a flying knee on the jaw. | ||
| And then Anderson walks away with his hands up. | ||
| Oh, it's so crazy. | ||
| Like as if he won. | ||
| So crazy. | ||
| But Herb didn't call the fight yet. | ||
| So then the bell rings. | ||
| So then Bisping has to get up and recover in a minute from getting KO'd. | ||
| It was madness. | ||
| He got a little bit of extra time because Anderson Silva celebrated. | ||
| So I think he got like an extra 30 seconds or so. | ||
| And by the way, that's got to fuck Anderson up too. | ||
| Because Anderson's now got this adrenaline dump. | ||
| And then you saw in his face, he's like, what? | ||
| No, we're back to fighting. | ||
| But Biz Bingman, that fourth round, he just bit down on his mouthpiece and walked him down. | ||
| I mean, it was incredible. | ||
| And then after that, being the greatest ever to come... | ||
| And you get on an injury, you get a title shot, what, 10 days notice? | ||
| Yeah, he fights the greatest ever. | ||
| I mean, arguably, Anderson's on the downslide, but definitely. | ||
| Let's not say arguably. | ||
| I mean, losing twice to Weidman, he just didn't look the same when he fought Nick Diaz, suspended for steroids, comes back, and, you know... | ||
| But he's still Anderson Silva. | ||
| So that victory. | ||
| He gets that victory over the greatest of all time. | ||
| And then first round knockout over Luke Rockhold. | ||
| You know what's fucked up? | ||
| I was literally considering saying that Luke Rockhold looks overconfident. | ||
| And when you're overconfident, you can get knocked out. | ||
| And I'm like, I don't want to be a dick. | ||
| And then boom, he gets knocked out. | ||
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| But you did make the comment about him not having his head right there on the center line or something. | ||
| He was super relaxed. | ||
| He was super relaxed with his chin straight up. | ||
| He was pulling out of things with his chin straight up. | ||
| It was almost like there was no danger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that was one of the things that he was saying, that he was in no danger. | ||
| And it was also one of the same things that Uriah Faber was saying. | ||
| The difference between me and Cruz is, I can hurt him, I can take him out. | ||
| And then when you see Uriah got caught, I think it was the second round, he got dropped, and you realize he's in deep trouble. | ||
| You realize, holy shit, I can He can get knocked out, too. | ||
| And all those guys, you know, it's funny when you get it, like Michael Bisping was a guy who the knock on him, I guess, was that he didn't have knockout power or whatever. | ||
| But you're talking about, like, a 200, I mean, fighting at 205, a guy who cuts down probably, I'm sorry, 185. So probably someone who weighs close to 200 pounds. | ||
| It's a 200-pound guy who specializes in striking. | ||
| I mean, he can fucking knock you out. | ||
| Of course he can. | ||
| And he proved it. | ||
| Well, he doesn't fight like a... | ||
| Like he fights like a technician and when you fight like a technician you don't swing wild crazy ass punches with everything on them with your You know van der Lea Silva style, you know, you try to find openings and that's what he did He found the opening with that left hook was really sneaky He had missed it before. | ||
| He was like stepping in and throwing the left hook over the shoulder and kind of like stepping into the punch. | ||
| And boy, when he caught Luke, he caught him at the end of the chin, which really like fucking spins your head, all the torque. | ||
| It was perfectly placed. | ||
| And then he caught him with another brilliant one right afterwards. | ||
| He followed up. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| And you know, he's had like all sorts of fucking crazy injuries. | ||
| Back injuries, neck injuries, his fucking arms... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's just tough, man. | ||
| He just keeps going. | ||
| He just keeps going. | ||
| No question about that. | ||
| That dude's as tough as they come, man. | ||
| I don't know if you ever fixed it. | ||
| Just because he's one of those guys who's been around forever and always kind of been knocking at the door. | ||
| So it's nice to see him get his moment. | ||
| Well, it's crazy to see. | ||
| Well, you see, there's knockout power, right? | ||
| And then there's Dan Henderson kind of knockout power. | ||
| That is just like, Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
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Dan Henderson. | |
| Dan Henderson feels like this table. | ||
| When you put your arm on him, he's not flexing. | ||
| He's like Ryan Parsons, who's a buddy of mine, who was his manager for a long time, said that he would do massage on him and he would be exhausted. | ||
| He's like, he's wood. | ||
| The guy's made out of wood. | ||
| So when you look at him, you look at him, you go, well, it looks like a strong, athletic guy. | ||
| But if you felt him, you realize where all this power comes from. | ||
| He's built different. | ||
| There's something going on with him. | ||
| And he does. | ||
| When you were saying people who don't put everything into one punch, I mean, he puts Everything. | ||
| I mean, it's like coming at you. | ||
| And it's so weird the way he moves too. | ||
| He moves in a weird way because he's very stiff. | ||
| He's not fluid like Jon Jones or like Anderson is very fluid in his movements. | ||
| Dan is like very stiff, but when he uncorks those bombs on you, they just detonate. | ||
| And you're just like, what the fuck hit me? | ||
| Like, Hector Lombard's never been knocked out. | ||
| To see Hector Lombard get knocked out by, well, he got head kicked, he's probably stunned by that head kick, and then he got blasted with that back elbow. | ||
| And he was out cold. | ||
| He was out cold when he hit the ground. | ||
| And then Henderson blasts him again. | ||
| But, like, whoa! | ||
| I saw it, I was like, who the fuck hits like this guy? | ||
| It's like, it's almost like you want him to hit you, just so you can feel it. | ||
| How much harder is that than normal? | ||
| Like, What the fuck are you doing? | ||
| I want to start by standing next to a guy who he hits. | ||
| Hit him real close to me. | ||
| I want to feel it. | ||
| His KO of Bisping at UFC 100 was one of the most brutal one-punch shots in the history of combat sports. | ||
| It was just BOOM! Bisping's dead stiff and then Henderson's airborne long before the referee can get to him and just slams him in the face on the way down and then from there out One of his logos was the silhouette of him flying through the air, knocking out Bisping. | ||
| So imagine being Bisping. | ||
| Not only do you have to deal with the fact this guy fucking knocked you out in spectacular fashion, but his logo is him flying through the air, hitting you after you're already unconscious. | ||
| I would just say, hang on, in a few years you'll be champ. | ||
| And you'll have a show with Luis J Gomez, and everything will be good. | ||
| What year was UFC 200? | ||
| It's a while, man. | ||
| That was Brock Lesnar. | ||
| Or 100, you're saying? | ||
| Yeah, 100 was like... | ||
| Was it 2012? | ||
| No. | ||
| Earlier than that, probably. | ||
| What year was that, Jamie? | ||
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| It wasn't... | ||
| UFC 114 popped up. | ||
| It definitely wasn't that, right? | ||
| It was UFC 100. Let me see. | ||
| It was the biggest pay-per-view of all time. | ||
| It was Brock Lesnar's rematch with Frank Mir. | ||
| And GSP fought a Tiago Alves. | ||
| July 11th, 2009. 2009! | ||
| Wow! | ||
| It was that long ago. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| Yeah, that is fucking weird. | ||
| It's been a long, fucking longer than I would have thought. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| I guess it is like 100 UFCs later. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So seven years later, he wins the title. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah, look, there's gonna be some ups and downs. | ||
| The same card? | ||
| On the same card. | ||
| Look, there's gonna be some ups and downs, your retina's gonna get all types of fucked up. | ||
| But you will be champion one day. | ||
| And no one takes that away from him, ever. | ||
| Could you imagine if him and Henderson had a rematch? | ||
| For the title? | ||
| Good lord. | ||
| Can that be made? | ||
| I wonder if that could be made ethically. | ||
| Because if you look at all the other contenders, all the people waiting in line, Chris Weidman, Mick Rockhold, Jacare, Vitor. | ||
| Yeah, there's just too many. | ||
| Yeah, there's too many. | ||
| But, ooh, boy. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's a hard sell. | ||
| Because Vitor just knocked out Henderson in the first round. | ||
| You know, it's, yeah, it's just, man, Vitor knocked out Bisping in Brazil. | ||
| And he knocked out Rockhold. | ||
| But he just got destroyed. | ||
| But he just got smashed by Jacare. | ||
| Everything, the middleweight division is just completely up in the air now. | ||
| It's all turned upside down. | ||
| It's so weird in MMA, it happened, like, you're kind of like, oh, okay, I think I know where everything stands. | ||
| And then one thing changes and you're like, well, I don't know anything, I guess. | ||
| You never know anything because you're only looking at the guys that are in the UFC right now. | ||
| And there's a whole fucking series of murderers that are out there that are just getting ready to enter. | ||
| And there's young kids that are like 20 that are just coming into their own. | ||
| And in four years, they might be the best fighter in the world. | ||
| There's so many of those. | ||
| There's like the Cody Garbrandts that are emerging. | ||
| You know, they emerge then with one fight against Almeida. | ||
| You go, oh, Jesus, this kid is amazing. | ||
| Fucking killer in the 135 pound division and one of the top contenders now instantly yeah with one standout performance You know and there's just gonna be more divisions like you were kind of talking about that when we were at the store the other night like you want to see more divisions Yeah, and I mean there'll be more divisions more fighters. | ||
| I think right I hope so I hope so, but there hasn't been enough progress in that. | ||
| I really think that there should be a weight class every 10 pounds. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I think there's a lot of opportunities for not just more champions, which I think is better for the sport, but guys to be able to fight in their actual weight class and be competitive. | ||
| There's some gaps like 85 to 205. Man, that's a big gap. | ||
| That is a giant gap, a 20-pound gap. | ||
| And most guys, they're probably going to be in the middle. | ||
| So if you had an 85, a 95, and a 205, that's where it should be. | ||
| I think that's how boxing does. | ||
| And also, I think it gives you much more opportunity for guys to fight champion versus champion and to move up or move down fairly easily. | ||
| I think an 85 could move down to 75 way easier than an 85 could go up to 20. Sure. | ||
| And they could go back and forth and you could have some like really awesome title unification bouts or, you know, champion versus champion bouts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, no, I agree with that. | ||
| I like, I mean, I like seeing the people, I like seeing the weight class. | ||
| I love Connor moving up to fight Nate. | ||
| I mean, although I guess you don't need more weight classes. | ||
| You went up to 170. Yeah, that wasn't even a move up. | ||
| That was just like, let's not cut. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, it was a move up for him, though. | ||
| And tell me, am I crazy about this, but why... | ||
| I've wondered this a lot, and I've never really gotten a good answer on it, but why do we have the weight cuts? | ||
| Like, why don't we just weigh in an hour before the event? | ||
| You want to dehydrate yourself before that? | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Because it's dangerous. | ||
| Guys are still going to cut weight. | ||
| That's how guys die. | ||
| Guys die from being dehydrated and getting hit in the head. | ||
| I mean, you can definitely die from just getting hit in the head. | ||
| But isn't it, wouldn't it, and maybe this is just stupid, but wouldn't it regulate itself? | ||
| Because it's like, if the weigh-in's an hour before the fights, and you're gonna dehydrate yourself, you're gonna get fucked up in the fight. | ||
| Like, you're not gonna have time to replenish yourself. | ||
| But why do this whole thing where we're weighing in 24 hours before, guys are dehydrating themselves, then refuel it? | ||
| Why not just fight the way Conor Nate fought and be hydrated? | ||
| It's a very good point. | ||
| Another point could be to outlaw weight cutting entirely. | ||
| And to check people all throughout camp and to make matchups based on size. | ||
| Look at two guys. | ||
| You say, what do you walk around at? | ||
| What do you walk around at? | ||
| You guys will be fighting at that weight or whatever the weight is when you're in best shape. | ||
| If you get down to 175 when you're in your best shape. | ||
| Tell us what that number is. | ||
| Tell us what that number is. | ||
| We'll match you up accordingly. | ||
| And we're going to test people's hydration levels all throughout camp. | ||
| We're going to show up just like USADA does and test you for drugs. | ||
| We're going to make you get on a scale. | ||
| I'm going to test your hydration levels. | ||
| And when you're at a reasonably hydrated level where it's healthy, that's your weight. | ||
| That's what you weigh now. | ||
| So if you want to lose weight, you better lose weight by, you better do some extra running and you better drop some body fat, but you're not going to be dehydrated. | ||
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| Yeah, I mean, seeing as how we can figure all that stuff out, it just seems like there'd be an easier answer. | ||
| Now, of course, obviously, there's the commissions in the way which I don't believe in any government regulation, so I don't think they should be there. | ||
| Well, the California Commission's done a fantastic job. | ||
| California Commission's, no joke. | ||
| This guy, Andy Foster, who runs it, I think he runs a great organization, and what he did was the opposite approach. | ||
| He let them weigh in from 10 a.m. | ||
| to 2 p.m. | ||
| He gave them an open window. | ||
| He said, look, we're going to be open. | ||
| Just come down and wait. | ||
| This is what he didn't want. | ||
| He doesn't want guys dehydrated, standing around, weakening themselves for that one moment where they have to stand on a scale in front of a camera. | ||
| He's like, this is all an artificially orchestrated event. | ||
| He's like, how about this? | ||
| We'll have them. | ||
| They'll come in. | ||
| We'll have... | ||
| Athletic Commission officers ready on standby all morning for these guys to weigh in. | ||
| They come in, they weigh in, then once we record it, make sure they're cool, they can rehydrate. | ||
| And they have many, many more hours to rehydrate. | ||
| So guys were rehydrating six hours earlier. | ||
| Most guys showed up at 10 a.m. | ||
| They made weight, and then they had way more time. | ||
| So when you saw people stand on the scale, I was saying official weight when I was announcing it. | ||
| They had weighed in at 10 o'clock in the morning. | ||
| So it was already 4 in the afternoon. | ||
| These guys were hydrated and thick. | ||
| No one looked sick. | ||
| So at least visually, no one looked like Conor McGregor looked when he fought Chad Mendes. | ||
| When they weighed in, he looked like a dead man. | ||
| He looked like a dead man. | ||
| Cheeks were all sucked in. | ||
| It looks horrible. | ||
| I mean, look, he did good in the fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he really did. | ||
| He cuts a lot to get to 145. He's a big boy. | ||
| Yeah, he's a big boy. | ||
| He's way bigger than, like, Jose Aldo. | ||
| And Jose Aldo was cutting a lot at one point in his career. | ||
| By the way, I've never, and I'm a hardcore fan, I've never enjoyed a fight more than I enjoyed Nate Diaz. | ||
| Conor McGregor. | ||
| I've never lost my mind so much at the end of the fight. | ||
| I mean, I'm a huge Diaz fan. | ||
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| And that was just incredible. | ||
| I mean, on ten days notice. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Well, that whole two-fight event, the two fights, the final fights, the Holly home Misha Tate was one of the most exciting endings to any fight ever. | ||
| When Misha took Holly down in the fifth round, a fight she was losing, took her back and choked her. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah, I read an article today where someone was saying that Misha had lost virtually every second. | ||
| It was from a guy I respect, a writer. | ||
| No, she won the second round. | ||
| I was like, what are you talking about? | ||
| The second round, she took her down and pounded her. | ||
| Didn't they give her a 10-8? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And they should. | ||
| She dominated. | ||
| So I read this article, this ESPN writer wrote it, and I was like, wait a minute, man. | ||
| Come on, you can't say that. | ||
| Why are you saying that? | ||
| That's silly hyperbole. | ||
| It doesn't even make any sense. | ||
| And Misha was threatening. | ||
| In the third and fourth after that, Holly was on her bike. | ||
| She was like, fuck this! | ||
| She was fighting perfect and super cautious with no chances and barely winning those rounds. | ||
| You know, just winning them but barely winning. | ||
| Nothing big happened and definitely no threat. | ||
| So that victory, when Misha Tate choked out Holly and Holly's punching in the air, how fucking dramatic is that? | ||
| Going out cold, punching in the air while she's going out, and then Nate beating up Connor in that second round after he gets fucked up in the first round, beating him up in the second round, and then choking him. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Probably two of the most exciting finishes to any fight ever. | ||
| And the Connor thing was just insane because he was on a tear that was like, you know, one of the biggest tears in MMA history. | ||
| And to watch it go down like that, especially like you said, like he was winning the fight and then Nate turns it around. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was almost like on a drop of a dime, like Nate came to life in that second round and starts talking shit. | ||
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| And starts really finding a home for the jab. | ||
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| And then he hit him with that big one-two. | ||
| And it was like, oop. | ||
| Nate has a snake-like one too, too. | ||
| He like whap whap and then he like slithers around. | ||
| You can't find him with a counter. | ||
| He's really good. | ||
| And there's no one worse than Nate or Nick Diaz to get hurt by in a fight because once they hurt you they just like they push a pace and then when you get hurt they like pick it up and pick it up and then all of a sudden I mean before you know it Connor's hit like 25 fucking times on the feet and he's shooting for a takedown. | ||
| Those guys are always doing triathlons. | ||
| So even though Nate is taking that fight at 11 days notice and he wasn't in shape, he's still in way better shape than most people. | ||
| So him going five rounds is not unfeasible. | ||
| It's not outside of the realm of imagination. | ||
| He's in shape. | ||
| He's just not in the kind of shape that he's going to be when they have a rematch. | ||
| And that becomes a real fucking problem. | ||
| Dude, I think he's gonna beat him up again. | ||
| Well, what Nate said, he goes, if I had a camp, he wouldn't have fucking touched me. | ||
| He goes, my plan was to go out slow in the first round, and he came out fast in the first round. | ||
| So I got tagged a couple times, but that's so cool, that's cool, stick to the plan, stick to the plan. | ||
| And then the second round, he starts loosening up and opening up, and Conor was just dead. | ||
| Yeah, well, I heard... | ||
| I mean, people were talking to Nate about... | ||
| Because, you know, going into that fight, like, Conor's power was what a lot of people were talking about. | ||
| Like, you know, he put one punch on Jose Aldo's chin and he's out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, he's talking. | ||
| He's like, they can't handle my power. | ||
| I don't do force as well. | ||
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| And Nate was saying in one of the post-fight interviews where he was like, look, I'm... | ||
| Sparring with Andre Ward and Joe Schilling and like heavyweight boxers. | ||
| I'm doing rounds with heavyweight boxers. | ||
| There's nothing you're going to hit him with that he hasn't seen or kind of dealt with. | ||
| I mean, you're not talking like Andre Ward and Joe Schilling like decent strikers. | ||
| You're saying literally the best in boxing and the best in kickboxing. | ||
| Well, Joe Schilling cuts weight to kickbox at 185 pounds and knocks dudes dead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dead with one punch. | ||
| So that guy is sparring with Nate on a regular basis. | ||
| Andre Ward, who is one of the best fucking boxers on the planet Earth, one of the slickest, said that Nate gives as good as he gets when they spar. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And I think Joe Schilling said he's never hurt either one of them in a sparring session. | ||
| I think he said that on Fighter and the Kid. | ||
| Yeah, I believe it, man. | ||
| Tough fucking dudes, man. | ||
| Tough fucking dudes. | ||
| But what's fascinating to me is that he wanted to jump right back in there and do it again. | ||
| And that Nate wanted to, or that Connor wanted to just run it back. | ||
| And I was like, wow, that's interesting. | ||
| It seems weird that he gets to do that. | ||
| Not so much that he wants to, but it just seems weird that they were like, even when Dana White was talking about it, and he was like, look, man, we tried to convince him to go down to 145, and he was like, Nate's the only, I was like, wait, he's the matchmaker now? | ||
| He just gets to go. | ||
| But wouldn't you let him, if you want to make a ton of money, right? | ||
| Look, man, I believe in the market. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that guy's what people want to see. | ||
| He can do whatever he wants to do. | ||
| And Nate's going to get a big payday off it. | ||
| But it's not just that. | ||
| The Emperor's been stripped down, okay? | ||
| So now he's exposed. | ||
| So now someone's beaten him. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| What do you do now? | ||
| You want to make money? | ||
| Okay, because if you want to make money, you make the biggest fight you can right now while he's been exposed. | ||
| And the biggest fight for sure is, and when I say exposed, I don't mean he's not talented. | ||
| I mean exposed meaning he's a human and he can lose. | ||
| And that happens with every fighter. | ||
| They lose. | ||
| And once they lose, people go, oh, you can be beat. | ||
| You know, we saw it with Anderson Silva. | ||
| You saw it with Mike Tyson. | ||
| After Mike Tyson fought Buster Douglas, it was a different world. | ||
| Everybody was like, oh, he's human. | ||
| So I say exposed, not in a disrespectful way. | ||
| He got exposed. | ||
| He lost. | ||
| He got choked out. | ||
| He got beaten up on the ground. | ||
| And then he got choked out. | ||
| Quick. | ||
| So, this is not an invulnerable, perfect fighter who's unbelievably durable, who can take punishment like no man. | ||
| There's a lot of those guys in the UFC. There's champions like that in the UFC. Like Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Unbelievably durable. | ||
| You can't put him away. | ||
| It's fucking hard to put that guy away. | ||
| We're not talking about that. | ||
| We're talking about a guy who got dinged up, shot for a shitty, wide-open takedown, got taken down, got demolished on the ground, and got choked unconscious. | ||
| Quickly afterwards. | ||
| So, alright, what do you do? | ||
| Could that happen with Dos Anjos? | ||
| Fuck yeah, it could. | ||
| Dos Anjos could do that too. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I mean, Conor might knock him out. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| Conor does have that punch. | ||
| But, you gotta put him in against Nate again, because that's the big money rematch. | ||
| And if this guy turns out to be a guy who's gonna win some, and lose some, and the beginning of his career, this unbeatable, wild, Celtic warrior character, that's all gone. | ||
| But he's a champ. | ||
| He's still got a belt at 145. Yeah, for now. | ||
| So it's almost kind of a weird position. | ||
| For now, but I mean, here's my question. | ||
| When I say for now, can he really keep making that weight? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Well, I've wondered about that, too. | ||
| Some people have argued with me saying, like, no, he can make the weight, because he was, what was he, 169 against Nate, so they're saying he basically, that's what he starts at, and he can just cut down from there. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| But look what he looked like at the weigh-in, so maybe he can. | ||
| I mean, he definitely can do it. | ||
| It's physically possible. | ||
| I was so looking forward to the press conference, though. | ||
| Just because I can't... | ||
| You know, you've got this guy in Conor who's like the ultimate shit-talker. | ||
| And then you've got Nate, who... | ||
| I mean, the dynamic at the first press conference was amazing. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| At that moment, when he was just kind of talking circles around Nate, and Nate just broke, and he goes, How about this? | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck your belt! | ||
| Fuck this press conference! | ||
| Nate just went gangster on him. | ||
| But now... | ||
| I was so interested, how can he show up and talk shit like that when Nate's got the perfect rebuttal to anything he has to say? | ||
| I beat you on ten days. | ||
| Conor's been saying all kinds of crazy stuff, like the first eight minutes were easy. | ||
| Yeah, but here's the difference between the first eight minutes and the last three minutes. | ||
| The last three were a lot worse. | ||
| Yeah, they were awful. | ||
| Like you got fucked up, man. | ||
| You gotta just accept that. | ||
| But that's part of his thing is that he has to like look at things in the most positive light possible and man, I don't know. | ||
| I think stylistically it's a troublesome fight for him because Nate is a very clever boxer and his ground game is a world away from where Connor is right now. | ||
| And I've seen Nate roll with guys. | ||
| He's a fucking legit, very high-level Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt under a very respected camp. | ||
| His cardio is outstanding. | ||
| His boxing's nasty. | ||
| So where's Conor shining? | ||
| The only way, I think, I mean, I guess there's, you know, it's really hard to, like, fight a Diaz brother and beat them. | ||
| Usually when people beat them, it's kind of like they really stick to a strategy. | ||
| You got to kind of take them down and avoid submissions or like leg kick and circle. | ||
| Like Dos Anjos beat him up in that way. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| There's also different... | ||
| He didn't show up. | ||
| Well, there's also, you know, different camps. | ||
| You know, you're coming in, who knows what kind of fucking injuries you're dealing with. | ||
| You know, you see a guy like Nate come in and look really kind of lackadaisical against... | ||
| Rafael Dos Anjos, then you see him come back and look shredded against Michael Johnson and look sensational. | ||
| So you go, okay, that's what he's capable of when he's on and focused. | ||
| You got to be ready for that guy. | ||
| And I think that, yeah, that's the best he's ever looked was that Michael Johnson fight. | ||
| Yeah, you can't think that the guy who lost Dos Anjos is showing up. | ||
| You got to think that the guy that came out and swarmed cowboy in the first round is coming. | ||
| Like, that guy's a clever fucking boxer. | ||
| So where does Conor shine? | ||
| Knockout power. | ||
| That's where he shines. | ||
| Like, Conor can dead dudes. | ||
| He can, but he couldn't do it. | ||
| They're tough to hit. | ||
| They have great head movement and great chins, and they roll with punches. | ||
| Well, the only guy to ever stop Nate was Josh Thompson, and Josh did it with a brutal head kick. | ||
| And Josh Thompson, to this day, I say, is one of the most underrated guys. | ||
| He just... | ||
| The stars did not align for him, but he could have easily been a UFC champion. | ||
| He was champion... | ||
| Strikeforce, yeah. | ||
| And with Gilbert, and him and Gilbert went back and forth. | ||
| You know, Josh Thompson's a world-class fighter, so when Josh Thompson head-kicked him, you know, it's like, Josh could do that to anybody in that division. | ||
| If he catches you, you know, you're fucked. | ||
| He's older now, and he's just... | ||
| I think he's a guy that, like I said, the stars didn't perfectly align for him. | ||
| But skill-wise and technique-wise, he's a fucking world-class fighter. | ||
| So when he knocked out Nate Diaz, it's not necessarily an indication that Nate Diaz is done. | ||
| That's how good Josh Thompson is. | ||
| And at the time, and then so Nate rebounds from that, and I think people, you look at like the losses, like the Dos Anjos fight, and you look at that, the Josh Thompson fight, and you go, hmm, how good is he? | ||
| You know, I could beat that guy. | ||
| But then you look at the Michael Johnson fight, and you go, ooh, that guy's fucking dangerous. | ||
| Jim Miller, Cerrone, and a lot of these fights where he was just unbelievable. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| It's one of those things where styles make fights and you know kind of really got in people's heads by talking shit and I felt like going in I was like I don't think you're gonna get in Nate's head by talking shit He's not that guy. | ||
| Yeah, how about this? | ||
| My crew will fuck up your whole crew That's the most gangster thing you could say by the way That's the most gangster thing because he's literally just going we'll fucking jump you dude We're not like we're not playing around here Yeah, and all those guys even the guys who seem like kind of nice guys in his team like Jake Shields You feel like he'll fucking jump you like those guys are vegetarian and he'll kick your ass What? | ||
| Got some breaking news that's hit since we've been going live. | ||
| The first one is this. | ||
| UFC lifts ban on reporter Ariel Helwani. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| The second one is a little less exciting. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Go back to that. | ||
| It says, reported that wrestler Brock Lesnar talks to return to UFC 200, preempting a UFC announcement. | ||
| Officials issued a life ban against him. | ||
| The organization reversed the decision Monday. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| That's kind of cool, because that means that public support made them lift that, but it also must mean that they worked out whatever the fuck it was. | ||
| See, this is what they were saying. | ||
| This is what I'm hearing, okay? | ||
| I haven't talked to Ariel, but let me just give you the UFC perspective. | ||
| The UFC perspective was that there was a mole. | ||
| They believe that someone was giving Ariel information, and that information he was using to scoop the UFC's official promotions. | ||
| So the UFC, which is a private company, you know, they don't have to let people in to your business, your private company, to come and report. | ||
| And so they felt like he was somehow or another getting a hold of this inside information, releasing it, and making them look bad. | ||
| I get the UFC's perspective that they would want to know who the fuck is leaking this secret information and that they don't want this guy taking that information and then putting it live. | ||
| Now, from what I understand, the conversation with him was... | ||
| Don't do this, because if you do this, there's only a handful of people that know this information. | ||
| So, we're gonna fire everybody, or we're gonna fire a bunch of people, and you're gonna ruin people's lives. | ||
| This is what I was told was a conversation they had with him. | ||
| After that conversation, he leaked the Brock Lesnar stuff. | ||
| So I don't know if that's true. | ||
| I would have to talk to Ariel. | ||
| You'd have to get his opinion. | ||
| You'd have to get the UFC's opinion. | ||
| You'd have to get the two of them together to debate whether or not which story was true. | ||
| But this is the side that you're not hearing. | ||
| So all you're hearing is the UFC banned him for life and everybody was upset. | ||
| So I like Ariel. | ||
| I think Ariel's a very good reporter. | ||
| I think he's a very bright guy. | ||
| I'm good friends with his uncle. | ||
| Gadsad, who's an awesome, just a brilliant, brilliant professor in Montreal. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| So, I like Ariel. | ||
| And the whole thing was bumming me out. | ||
| I was looking at my Twitter feed. | ||
| I was like, ah, fucking. | ||
| But there's certain things like this, you gotta kind of let the dust settle. | ||
| So the dust settled, they lifted the ban. | ||
| I'm very happy with that. | ||
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But... | |
| You've got to be careful when it comes to... | ||
| See, here's the thing about this leaking information. | ||
| People say, he was just doing his job reporting. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| But you have to realize, this isn't like news that is not going to get out, that's going to affect people's health and safety. | ||
| It's like we're trying to make an announcement in an hour. | ||
| This is a private company that is spending millions of dollars to promote these events. | ||
| So, all you're doing is just like getting it on you. | ||
| Can I run a bathroom real quick? | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| It's right out that door and to the right-hand side. | ||
| All you're doing, if you're scooping it, is you're shining the attention on yourself. | ||
| What I like Ariel for is not him shining the attention on himself. | ||
| What I like Ariel for is I think he's a very bright guy, and I think he's very insightful when it comes to fights and strategies and things along those lines. | ||
| I don't think it's important that he break the news before the UFC does. | ||
| And I think if the UFC doesn't want him to do that because this is private information and a private company and they're trying to control the press release, I don't buy that that's necessarily under the guise of journalism. | ||
| I think it's like there's some... | ||
| There's some fuckery with that. | ||
| Because we're not talking about like, oh, he found out about some horrible thing that happened that someone's covering up, or he found out about corruption in government, or he found out about a person who got shot by the police. | ||
| This is not like that kind of news. | ||
| They're going to release it. | ||
| You're just trying to do it before they do it. | ||
| And you're finding it, if it's true, that there's a mole, you're finding it out through some sort of a sneaky method that these people all sign non-disclosure agreements and they're all not supposed to release that information because the UFC wanted to make that big, cool announcement. | ||
| Now when that big cool announcement happened at UFC 199, I was working all day, I was doing commentary all day, so I didn't go online, and I wasn't reading any of the MMA sites, so I didn't know that Ariel had already scooped it. | ||
| So when I saw that promo, and I saw Brock Lesnar, CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?! I was like, what does that mean? | ||
| Was this real? | ||
| Like, that was a real reaction by me. | ||
| I had no fucking idea whatsoever that Brock Lesnar was gonna be at UFC 200. No, I didn't either. | ||
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No one around me knew what was happening. | |
| We didn't see the promo. | ||
| Right, and that's what the UFC wanted. | ||
| They wanted that, and they felt like him releasing that early ruined that for the people that read his article. | ||
| And I see their point of view. | ||
| I see their perspective, and I also see their perspective as a private company. | ||
| Now, people are saying that he's just doing his job and it's just journalism. | ||
| Folks, this is not hidden information. | ||
| This is not stuff that wasn't going to come out For sure, in a couple hours. | ||
| He knew it was. | ||
| Everybody knew it was. | ||
| So this is a very tricky thing. | ||
| And it's also, he had apparently scooped Nate Diaz versus Conor McGregor. | ||
| He had done that, and that was when, this is again, what I'm hearing, when they had a talk with him. | ||
| They're like, look, if you fucking do this, you're gonna ruin people's lives, because you're gonna get people fired. | ||
| Because we're gonna find out who the fuck did this. | ||
| There's only a small handful of people. | ||
| It's not coming from Brock's side, it's coming somehow or another from inside the organization. | ||
| So, Yeah, I got no problem with the UFC doing it. | ||
| Because, I mean, if everything we're saying... | ||
| Because, obviously, I don't know all the information. | ||
| But, look, it's your company. | ||
| It's your information. | ||
| You have a right to tell your employees, don't give this out. | ||
| And if there's evidence that one of them is, I'm going to fire that guy. | ||
| Yeah, and this is the most important part of it, folks. | ||
| This is not a free speech thing. | ||
| It's not a freedom of the press thing. | ||
| Because we're not saying... | ||
| That he, somehow or another, scooped some inside information that we'd have never gotten out. | ||
| This is not some secret stuff. | ||
| Well, he has the right to say it. | ||
| He shouldn't be thrown in jail. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I don't advocate for anyone being thrown in jail. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying, though. | ||
| What I'm saying is, it's not like he uncovered some inside shit like Watergate. | ||
| This is something that they were gonna release. | ||
| They had a plan, and he got word of that and jumped the gun and put it out there. | ||
| And he said he had multiple sources and all this different jazz, but look, it doesn't help anybody to release it early except Ariel. | ||
| So you're saying it's not like he found out about some scandal going on that he was showing to the public. | ||
| It's literally like, we want to drop this in an hour. | ||
| And by the way, I didn't read his thing, and I loved finding that news out live at the event. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| Well, and look, I don't give a fuck, okay? | ||
| I mean, I think it's kind of cool that they had that, but... | ||
| It doesn't bother me at all that the information got out a few hours earlier. | ||
| Would I have had the same reaction? | ||
| No. | ||
| But if I saw it in written word, I would still have a very similar reaction. | ||
| Like, what the fuck? | ||
| I wouldn't have had the same reaction when I saw the promo, but come on, man. | ||
| I'm not into cheesy promos anyway. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| I want to see matchups. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Give everybody the information the moment it happens. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| I don't like announcements. | ||
| All of that, I don't... | ||
| But, that said, I completely understand the UFC's opinion, or the UFC's position, where they have this company, and, you know, people go, oh, you're a company man, you're fucking sticking up for the company. | ||
| No, just think of this for a second. | ||
| You have a promotional... | ||
| Campaign that you've created you spent more than a million dollars promoting this UFC 200 commercial They have this whole thing and then they tag brog lester in the end and they think oh my god This is the fucking cherry on top of the sundae This is gonna be it and then someone jumps the gun and you find out that it's someone inside your company Allegedly that's leaking information this reporter and he's getting this information out and all he's doing is essentially Scooping it and putting the onus and putting the light on himself No, | ||
| I think you have every right to want to fire that person. | ||
| And also every right to ban Ariel. | ||
| And I love Ariel. | ||
| I think he's a great reporter. | ||
| I like watching his stuff. | ||
| I like the MMA Hour a lot. | ||
| Well, again, maybe that information that I got from the UFC is also incorrect, and maybe that's why his ban has been lifted. | ||
| But look... | ||
| No one wants a guy like Ariel Helwani to not have a gig, and I think him getting banned, honestly, if you're an Ariel Helwani fan, you should be jumping up and down for two reasons. | ||
| One, you should be happy that he got banned, because then it makes him like a martyr, and then happy that he got reinstated, because now he's a hero. | ||
| So I'm an Ariel Helwani fan, so I'm happy. | ||
| I'm obviously a UFC fan, so I'm happy. | ||
| I'm glad they worked it out and everybody talked, and it's groovy. | ||
| We get to watch Brock Lesnar. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Everybody that's freaking out that he's only doing his job, that's not necessarily true, folks. | ||
| It's a little bit more complicated than that, because it's not like that information wasn't already coming out. | ||
| And if you have information that you know is going to come out, write a fucking story about what that information means. | ||
| Because that's what I want out of Ariel Helwani. | ||
| I think Ariel Helwani is a really smart guy, and he's really insightful, and he's a true MMA fan. | ||
| And he's a guy that is going to give you some really good insight and some very... | ||
| Well-articulated thoughts that I enjoy so I'm happy. | ||
| I'm happy. | ||
| He's back. | ||
| I'm happy But that is the perspective that when I found out about it I had to ask I called and I had this conversation with people that I deeply trust and this was the version that I was handed so now everybody knows and it's all groovy so the Conspiracy theories can say he's working with the UFC. Yeah, I'm a puppet But I mean look Obviously, I love the UFC and obviously Dana White is a very good friend of mine So you're not gonna hear me criticize them. | ||
| I mean even if I disagree with them You're like he's my friend, so it makes sense. | ||
| That's how human interactions work He's like a friend and by the way, and he's created an amazing company He's the reason why this sport is out there and you guys have worked together for so even if you had a falling out and you were like I don't want to work there anymore Why would you go publicly you would never hear that from me? | ||
| And I would never work for anybody else either. | ||
| People have said, like, if you leave the UFC, you're like, what are you gonna do? | ||
| You work for Bellator? | ||
| I'm like, I'm not working for anybody. | ||
| If I don't work for the UFC, I am never doing this again. | ||
| Yeah, I couldn't see you commentating for another MMA organization. | ||
| No fucking chance. | ||
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That'd be too much. | |
| No chance. | ||
| Just no chance. | ||
| It's not even on the table. | ||
| It's not gonna happen. | ||
| I just won't do it anymore. | ||
| I would be happy to just go back to doing stand-up. | ||
| I like being a fan. | ||
| And honestly, my favorite thing to do... | ||
| I love calling fights. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| It's an amazing job. | ||
| I've had it for a long time. | ||
| But fight companions are even more fun. | ||
| Fight Companion Podcast, where it's Eddie Bravo and Schaub and Callan. | ||
| And you just hang out and watch. | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| And we drink and eat food and talk shit. | ||
| And if a fight's boring, someone tells a story about getting laid or shit in their pants in traffic. | ||
| I mean, it's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, it sounds like a great way to watch. | ||
| It's the best! | ||
| It's the most fun. | ||
| Because we get... | ||
| Look, the best seat in the house is kind of there live where I sit, so I do kind of have the best seat in the house. | ||
| But honestly, watching it on TV might be the best seat in the house. | ||
| Because you don't get the obstruction of the cage. | ||
| I've been... | ||
| Well, look, I don't... | ||
| Like, the UFCs I've been to, I don't have, like, the great fucking seats either. | ||
| I've sat and just... | ||
| And I've caught myself sitting there where you're watching the big screen. | ||
| Well, you do now, buddy. | ||
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Ooh! | |
| Ooh! | ||
| Life is changing. | ||
| I'm catching myself just watching the screen. | ||
| The big screen a lot. | ||
| You are aware of that. | ||
| You're just like, I'm really not even watching this live half the time. | ||
| You know, they start fighting over here and you're like, ah, now the octagon's blocking me. | ||
| And you don't get We're good to go. | ||
| But speaking of that, you do get to see the Bruce Buffer 360 every time. | ||
| Well, he doesn't do a 360. He does a 180. He's only done one 360 and that's a UFC 200. Which, ladies and gentlemen, begs the question, should we convince Bruce Buffer to do something else? | ||
| A 720? | ||
| Did we convince him to do a 720? | ||
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It's insane. | |
| You heard it right here. | ||
| But he's getting up there in age. | ||
| I don't want him to blow out an ACL. He blew his ACL out doing the jump. | ||
| You know he does that thing? | ||
| It's time! | ||
| He blew his ACL out doing that? | ||
| He blew his ACL out doing that. | ||
| Which fight? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| He'd probably tell me if I asked him. | ||
| I'm sure he remembers, but here we could watch the 360. By the way, this 360 is 100% my idea. | ||
| I talked him into it. | ||
| There's even a video of me talking him into the 360. And I'm like, because he always did the 180. And he did the 180 because he accidentally was pointing towards the wrong side once, and he realized that. | ||
| There's another one, dude. | ||
| I think I might have seen it. | ||
| Bring this to the beginning. | ||
| Bring it to the beginning and then crank it up real loud so we can hear it. | ||
| Bring it from the beginning. | ||
| Put it in the beginning. | ||
| Bring it in the beginning. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| My main goal this weekend, besides having fun and getting to see some awesome fights, is talking Bruce Buffer into the Buffer 360. The Buffer 360 will be happening! | ||
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It's very well possibly good. | |
| Now we planted the seed in his head. | ||
| Shit, it was about a year ago we talked to him about possibly going from a 180 to a 360. Could he do it? | ||
| Well, that crazy motherfucker went home and actually practiced it. | ||
| We're going to work on him at the weigh-ins. | ||
| We're going to make him feel it. | ||
| We're going to massage him until he feels it. | ||
| We're going to do whatever we can do. | ||
| The Buffer 360 must take place. | ||
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Buffer 360 brought to you by the power of marijuana. | |
| So this is the UFC. I'm here with Bruce Buffer. | ||
| It is UFC 100. Today is the day. | ||
| Will we see the Buffer 360? | ||
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It still stands that I will know at that exact millisecond of the moment I decide to do it. | |
| Do I want to do it? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| But let's see how the energy feels, and let's see how I feel, and let's see how the show goes. | ||
| And if I can do it, I'll pull it off. | ||
| Suspense! | ||
| I can't fucking take it! | ||
| Joey Diaz was sitting there right behind me while it happened. | ||
| I forgot that. | ||
| Joey was right there. | ||
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So this is the biggest ever UFC pay-per-view. | |
| And that's me with a video camera on Mike Goldberg, hoping that he's going to do the 180 or the 360. | ||
| look how lean Frank Mir looked at the time. | ||
| We look great. | ||
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Now, now here. | |
| Get ready for this. | ||
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Joseph was like, he's going to do it. | |
| He's gonna do it! | ||
| I was like, he's not gonna do it! | ||
| Here he goes. | ||
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Ladies and gentlemen, presenting, defending, defending, USC heavyweight champion of the world, Bruce Bruce! | |
| Bruce! | ||
| Look at this! | ||
| Look at Joey Diaz! | ||
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That's Joey Scrooge. | |
| I was so happy. | ||
| So, there's Red Band, Diaz, and Ari Shafir. | ||
| Wow, everybody looks so young. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| That was seven years ago. | ||
| That doesn't seem like seven years ago. | ||
| Somehow Ari had an older haircut at the time. | ||
| Well, he was going for the mustache look at the time and he had a lot of craziness going on. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's a long ass time ago. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That only is 73,000? | ||
| Who has that up? | ||
| Is that Red Band's page? | ||
| Wow, I should put it on my channel. | ||
| So we have to figure out a way to make a 720 plausible. | ||
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He needs a hoverboard or something. | |
| So the other breaking news you just handed me is that Kimbo Slice died. | ||
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How did he die? | |
| Kimbo Slice died. | ||
| I think he was admitted to the hospital with a heart condition today or maybe Thursday the other day and news is breaking just as we were coming on. | ||
| People were trying to get confirmation on if he actually passed and the American Top Team tweeted it. | ||
| Oh, the American Top Team tweeted that he died. | ||
| He must have really died. | ||
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Wow. | |
| He was a good guy, man. | ||
| I met that dude a couple times. | ||
| Very nice guy. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| Crazy story he had, man. | ||
| Just fuck internet street fights into the UFC. Or first into the CBS thing. | ||
| He was a good boxer. | ||
| You know, he was a good boxer in the early days of MMA. You know, if you go back and watch his, like, Kimbo Slice KO and Elite XC. Just Elite XC fucked up and trying to put all their eggs in one basket and have this guy who was this internet sensation be their figurehead. | ||
| I mean, it made sense, like, financially, but people in the know... | ||
| Like me, I was like, listen, if he fights someone good, he's going to get fucked up. | ||
| Like, I see all these holes in what he does. | ||
| And it was frustrating as a hardcore fan because it was still at a point, like, the UFC is much, much bigger now. | ||
| I remember when they got that fight on CBS, like, MMA had never been on a big network like that before. | ||
| So it was very frustrating that the biggest network was putting it out as if this guy was the best guy in MMA. And, you know, us, like, hardcore fans, like, me and my friends would be around bitching, like, Randy Couture, We'd take him down in a second. | ||
| But he was fun to watch. | ||
| Well, people forget that Elite XC sort of had the scoop on the UFC. They had the scoop on getting on broadcast television and they had millions of people watching those fights. | ||
| Didn't UFC, like, weren't they in talks with HBO and then it like fell apart and then Elite XC ended up getting the deal with Showtime or something? | ||
| Well, here was one of the problems. | ||
| HBO wanted to replace me and Goldberg and put in their own commentators. | ||
| They wanted to do their own version of the broadcast because they probably felt like us as UFC employees would be biased. | ||
| And the UFC was like, that's not going to happen. | ||
| Like, first of all, who are you going to get? | ||
| Like, how many people are out there, especially at the time, that even do commentary? | ||
| There's a small handful of people in the world that are qualified to do MMA commentary at a top level. | ||
| It was a big problem back then. | ||
| A big problem with other organizations, it made them almost unwatchable because the announcing would just be so terrible. | ||
| I mean like nowadays I feel like there was a while where I thought you and Goldberg were like the only team who can do MMA without me just wanting to mute it. | ||
| But I actually like now they've got the alternate teams have gotten fairly strong like Bryan Stan's really good. | ||
| Bryan Stan's excellent. | ||
| Dan Hardy's excellent. | ||
| Dan Hardy's really good, yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of people that can do my job now. | ||
| But back then, there was a small handful. | ||
| And by the way, there are a lot of people that can do my job. | ||
| Other than Jimmy Smith, who's really good, who works for Bellator, Jimmy Smith's excellent. | ||
| He's as good as me, easy. | ||
| He's as good as anybody. | ||
| He's fantastic. | ||
| He knows his shit. | ||
| He's a real fan. | ||
| He's a smart guy. | ||
| He's easy to listen to. | ||
| He calls things right. | ||
| I'm a big Jimmy Smith fan. | ||
| But other than him, outside of the UFC, who do you got? | ||
| Outside the UFC there's not not really much unless there's some unknown guys I don't know of which is definitely possible, but there's in the UFC There's several guys now, you know, you got Kenny Florian you got Brian stand you got Dan Hardy There's plenty of people can do it now, but they work for the UFC So someone like HBO wanted to have their own team. | ||
| Yeah, you can't just get sports guys You just can't do that because they're not gonna understand what the fuck's going on when the fight goes to the ground and they're gonna miss things and it's gonna be sloppy and You can't have that. | ||
| You have to have someone who understands, and you have to have someone who can talk. | ||
| It's like when you watch old school MMA, it's one of the craziest things about it, that it's being announced by people who don't understand the sport. | ||
| So you literally hear them saying things like, why is he tapping? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you definitely get a lot of that. | ||
| Well, you used to get a lot of that from judges, which is really crazy. | ||
| That's bananas. | ||
| I have a friend of mine who's a judge, and in the middle of a fight, this woman, who was also a judge, looked over and she goes, what is he doing? | ||
| Someone had someone in a Kimura. | ||
| She's like, what is he doing? | ||
| What's going on over there? | ||
| Like, she's a professional judge at the highest level in the UFC. And she had no... | ||
| And this was four years ago? | ||
| Five years ago? | ||
| Yeah, but this is why I'm against all those commissions being involved. | ||
| Well, yes and no. | ||
| You definitely need commissions. | ||
| Because if you don't have commissions and you don't have medical staff on team, you don't have, like, strict standards as far... | ||
| You have to have some government. | ||
| Especially with something like combat sports. | ||
| Because there's too many fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants organizations that don't do medical screenings. | ||
| People could die. | ||
| Well, I think you have to have, like, certainly the companies would have to be held responsible for that stuff. | ||
| Yeah, but you can't just leave it up to the companies. | ||
| You can the athletes that suffer. | ||
| If there's no medical coverage right there, you can't have an event, like an MMA event, where you're putting literally your health and your life in the hands of these people that are supposed to have all their ducks in a row so they can run this event. | ||
| And whether or not you even get paid is in question. | ||
| See, because these guys don't have any power, the fighters. | ||
| They don't have enough influence, especially on a small, local level, small shows. | ||
| So I'm a big fan of how California does it. | ||
| Like I said, I'm a big fan of that Andy Foster guy. | ||
| I think he's as good as it gets when it comes to heads of athletic commissions. | ||
| But I think that you have to have a bond where you have the money to pay the fighters before you can put on an event. | ||
| That should be mandatory. | ||
| Have you ever done shows where you haven't gotten paid? | ||
| Yeah, I have. | ||
| It's fucking horrible, man. | ||
| It's frustrating. | ||
| Especially when you know that there was an audience there, and they laughed, so there's money exchanged, but where's my money? | ||
| Because you don't even have a show if you don't have the show part of the show. | ||
| Oh, I had one where I had to fly myself out to it. | ||
| I didn't get paid. | ||
| And there were people there, the club was, oh, it was brutal. | ||
| It was brutal. | ||
| Did you ever get paid? | ||
| No, never. | ||
| Never to this day. | ||
| There's a gig of me and Big J. No! | ||
| We're both on the gig together. | ||
| Both of us didn't get paid. | ||
| I was opening for him years ago. | ||
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Fuckers. | |
| I was opening for him, but believe me, it probably hurt me more, the money. | ||
| I mean, we both needed our money, but at the moment I was like, fucking broke. | ||
| But I will say, then you also deal with a lot of other shit when you get these government regulatory bodies, like with the Vegas, was it the Vegas Commission that handed Nick Diaz? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Which, I mean, has there ever, if you, the guy moved up A weight class and fought the greatest of all time at that weight class who tested positive for steroids. | ||
| And they found out he had trace amounts of THC in his system. | ||
| And he passed a couple tests, right? | ||
| He passed the most stringent tests available. | ||
| He passed two WADA tests, two World Anti-Doping Agency tests. | ||
| There were blood tests. | ||
| They're much more particular. | ||
| And then he failed a urine test that the Nevada State Athletic Commission... | ||
| He says it's bullshit. | ||
| And the WADA people say it's bullshit. | ||
| The WADA people are like, look, there's no... | ||
| And then they wouldn't test sample B. There was some issues with testing of sample B or allowing the tests of sample B. And they tried to ban them for five years. | ||
| I gave out the Nevada State Athletic Commission's phone number. | ||
| I put it out on Twitter and everybody called them. | ||
| They were fucking pissed. | ||
| They're pissed, but I was like, fuck you. | ||
| Well, there were like petitions online and stuff like that. | ||
| They should be fired and then they should be locked in jail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The amount of incompetence that you have to have to think that you're going to take away a guy's athletic career for trace amounts of marijuana in his system and not examine the two water tests that showed that he was clean. | ||
| Oh, it's just so disgusting. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| And this guy, this guy who, you know, Nick Diaz was like came from nothing and like made a career of himself, like doing something positive with his life. | ||
| It's just trying to ruin him. | ||
| It's just pot! | ||
| And he fought a guy on steroids! | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| And it's just pot! | ||
| He fought the greatest ever on roids! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You should say, I'm so sorry that we let a guy on steroids fight against you. | ||
| Here's some more pot. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| And please don't sue us. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I mean, the idea that you can just go in there and run an organization like that and tell those people that are fighting that their future is fucked. | ||
| Like, what they did to Vandele Silva is arguably even more disgusting. | ||
| Vandele Silva ran away from a drug test. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Definitely shouldn't do that. | ||
| But they banned him for life. | ||
| He's never tested positive. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| They banned him for life. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That's beyond fuck. | ||
| That's tyranny. | ||
| Well, so this guy, the guy the cops killed in Baltimore, that guy Freddie Gray, essentially what he did was he ran. | ||
| They didn't have anything on him. | ||
| They weren't there to arrest him. | ||
| He saw cops and ran. | ||
| And it's like a weird dynamic where you're like, running... | ||
| It may be a little suspicious, but it's not itself a crime, right? | ||
| Like, how can there be such a hard punishment for running? | ||
| You just... | ||
| Well, I mean, it just seems strange. | ||
| Which was the one when the guy ran away and they shot him and then threw a taser on the ground? | ||
| That was a different one. | ||
| That was in North Carolina. | ||
| And I think there was a little bit more. | ||
| Maybe you're right. | ||
| Maybe it was one of those. | ||
| I was going to go to South Carolina because I'm from the North. | ||
| I'm going to say, oh, it's those South Carolina ones that are all fucked up. | ||
| The North Carolina people. | ||
| North Carolina would never. | ||
| Never. | ||
| But didn't it... | ||
| It did turn out that he was, like... | ||
| He had the cop's taser or something like that, right? | ||
| In that one? | ||
| No, the cop threw the taser on the ground. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| I don't remember this story exactly. | ||
| There's a video of the cop chucking the taser on the ground after he shot him. | ||
| Like, Ziff said, oh, caught him. | ||
| He had a weapon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, like, what? | ||
| A lot of shady shit. | ||
| There's something about that balance, too, of where, like, if you... | ||
| If a cop is... | ||
| If a cop grabs your arm and you yank it away, you're assault, resisting arrest, you're fucked now. | ||
| But the cops can beat a dude with a nightstick half to death, and then they're like, well, we thought he might have been going for someone's gun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's dark, man. | ||
| And also, cops, just like everything else we're talking about in government, they're people, and they vary. | ||
| And there's going to be people that are awesome cops. | ||
| I personally think that it's one of the most difficult jobs a person can do. | ||
| And psychologically, the idea of going to work every day where all the people you deal with are going to be lying to you and up to something and hate you. | ||
| Well, did you... | ||
| Did you follow at all what happened, I guess, a year and a half ago now in New York, where the NYPD had essentially a quasi-shutdown? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I think what you're saying is absolutely true. | ||
| I think it's an incredibly difficult job, and a lot of that is because of the rules we have, which are kind of crazy. | ||
| I mean, the idea of having to police Drug use is a very difficult position to put someone in because, I mean, obviously, first and foremost, it's a horrible thing to do to throw someone in a cage for putting something into their body. | ||
| But it's a very weird thing when there's no complainant. | ||
| It's two people who are making a voluntary transaction, and now you've got to go and SWAT raid and find them. | ||
| This guy's giving a bag of something to another person. | ||
| Go get them. | ||
| So for people who don't know, after that Eric Gardner guy got choked out, And choked to death. | ||
| I don't know how to put it, but he died. | ||
| He didn't get choked to death. | ||
| I'm sorry, I shouldn't say that. | ||
| He had a heart attack. | ||
| Yeah, he had a heart attack while getting tackled down for allegedly selling Lucy's. | ||
| Yeah, loose cigarettes. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| So there were a bunch of protests, and then two cops got shot in Brooklyn by some maniac. | ||
| I think he was from Baltimore. | ||
| And he drove up. | ||
| He tweeted he was going to do it. | ||
| And then drove up and shot two cops who never saw it coming. | ||
| Poor guys got killed on the job. | ||
| And then, as a result of that, they had an official, unofficial, what they called an NYPD slowdown. | ||
| It was a spokesman for the police union. | ||
| He said, and I believe it was the New York Post, he said, as a result of this shooting, the cops will only be making arrests when absolutely necessary. | ||
| Well, that's what he said, which was a weird like shouldn't they always be doing that? | ||
| But anyway, so they but arrests went down like 80% Or at least it was maybe like 60% and then it was like nonviolent tickets and bullshit arrests were down like 90% like they were just basically not doing that anymore and there was this beautiful like month and a half long period of Where the NYPD just wasn't doing what they do. | ||
| They weren't over-policing everybody. | ||
| And then they started cracking the whip to get them to go back to do it. | ||
| Because evidently a lot of money is raised by these, you know... | ||
| Yeah, well that's the issue. | ||
| Glorified revenue collectors. | ||
| There's a lot of revenue that gets gathered up in kind of fucking devious ways. | ||
| Like, I've always been disgusted by parking tickets. | ||
| Like, why... | ||
| The city owns this fucking spot where you can leave a car, and you have to give them money to leave a car, and that's how they gather up millions of dollars, and they become addicted to that gathering of the millions of dollars? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| You can't do that, man. | ||
| You can't... | ||
| Oh, it's a horrible way to fund assistance. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| By the way, just being that guy. | ||
| Imagine being the guy who's going out just giving tickets. | ||
| Like, you just go around ruining people's day, like, all day long. | ||
| That was a friend of mine. | ||
| My friend Brian used to do that. | ||
| That must be a fucking weird joke. | ||
| It's bad for your brain. | ||
| Oh, I'd imagine it has to be. | ||
| I mean, imagine some of these people, man, who are, like, literally, you know, working, like, you know... | ||
| Lower-class jobs and have families to pay for and you're just gonna go hand them a fucking $100 ticket because your meter expired by two minutes He didn't give us enough money and it's like changing his laundry or something and you know let it go for a few minutes Yeah, I mean, I get the idea that you shouldn't have cars that are blocking the street. | ||
| You should definitely give people tickets if they're doing something that obstructs it or tow them. | ||
| But to just leave a car on the street, you have to pay money? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, I have a problem with the way government raises almost all revenue. | ||
| I mean, I just... | ||
| I reject the whole system of, like... | ||
| taxation at the threat of violence. | ||
| I think it's like primitive and barbaric. | ||
| And when human beings look back on that, it's going to be the way we look back at like slavery or arranged marriage or whatever it is that the idea that the way we fund our organization, you know, like, like, let's say there are these services that are necessary. | ||
| So the way we fund that is we go, you have to pay a portion of your income or we'll fucking throw you in jail. | ||
| Yeah, we'll put you in a cage. | ||
| Lock you in a cage. | ||
| Like an animal. | ||
| That's the biggest thing when I'm arguing now with people about libertarianism versus other ways that we should organize society. | ||
| That's my biggest thing that I harp on. | ||
| Who should we throw in a cage? | ||
| Who is it morally acceptable to throw into a cage forcefully? | ||
| Like, send men with guns to get them and throw them into a cage. | ||
| Like, I'll grant you a murderer, a rapist, someone who assaults somebody. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe we go into, like, theft. | ||
| Yeah, theft. | ||
| Things like that. | ||
| Because that is a violation of, you know, you own yourself and then you own your possession. | ||
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| So that's a violation. | ||
| But are you really okay if someone's like, oh, I don't want to fund that program? | ||
| I won't send my money in to fund the war. | ||
| Because I don't believe in the war. | ||
| So now we can throw that guy in a cage? | ||
| Or I don't want to fund a... | ||
| Look, even if you have a really noble charity... | ||
| Why should you be able to threaten violence against someone to get them to fund it? | ||
| Well, that's where I like Gary Johnson. | ||
| Gary Johnson steps in and says, we don't need the IRS. It's like, listen, we don't need... | ||
| That's not how we have to make money. | ||
| We just put taxes on consumption. | ||
| I like Gary Johnson. | ||
| I wish he would be a little more Ron Paul. | ||
| In what way? | ||
| I just feel like Gary Johnson has this way of selling libertarianism as this kind of like... | ||
| Well, you know, it's more practical if we do it the libertarian way. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Whereas I like, you know, when he's asked about the wars, he'll say things like, he goes, I think if you look on average, these military interventions have hurt more than they have helped. | ||
| That is exactly how he sounds. | ||
| That's a really good impression. | ||
| Yeah, I've watched a lot of them. | ||
| By the way, that's not necessarily incorrect. | ||
| It's just like, who would talk about mass murder that way? | ||
| It's like talking about slavery, and you're like, well, I just think overall this is an inefficient way to get cotton. | ||
| Jesus, dude! | ||
| And you're head abolitionist? | ||
| Really? | ||
| You're supposed to represent the abolitionist movement with that attitude? | ||
| So he's like a moderate radical. | ||
| Yeah, he's just a pragmatist, man. | ||
| He's just like, this makes more sense, which is fine, but I don't really want to sell libertarianism as like, I think we're fiscally conservative and socially liberal. | ||
| He's a bridge, because he was a lifelong Republican. | ||
| He's a good bridge to getting people to consider an alternative party. | ||
| Maybe one of the only ones that's currently available. | ||
| See, I believe in a little bit more like a case for radicalism. | ||
| I think that, um, so... | ||
| Ron Paul, when he was in the 2007-2008 debates, he got a whole lot of people interested in libertarianism. | ||
| And he didn't do it by being like a bridge to like, before I tell you, you know, slavery is horribly immoral, let me first convince you it's inefficient and ineffective. | ||
| And then he went right to like, this is wrong. | ||
| This is wrong. | ||
| We're killing people in countries around the world. | ||
| Like, this is morally horrible. | ||
| And he got a movement going when he was in those debates. | ||
| You know, Gary Johnson was in one of the major debates in 2012. Do you remember anything from his performance? | ||
| No. | ||
| Because nobody ever does. | ||
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| Nobody ever does. | ||
| Because he'll go in there and say things like, in New Mexico, I was able to balance the budget with cutting 7%. | ||
| You have the greatest political philosophy ever devised by man behind you. | ||
| Libertarian. | ||
| You have the answer to all this shit. | ||
| You're the abolitionist in slavery times. | ||
| So you really feel libertarianism is the answer to everything? | ||
| Well, no, no, no. | ||
| It's not in the same way that abolition isn't the answer to everything during slavery. | ||
| It's the first moral step to then we can live in a... | ||
| What about libertarianism is so attractive to you? | ||
| I mean, I think it's philosophically sound, and it's basically just... | ||
| To me, it's a humble understanding of what existence is, that we don't really know what this is. | ||
| Man's kind of born into the world naked, and we're here with nature, and we're all trying to figure it out, and that, morally speaking, we should all own our own lives, and therefore own your own body, and basically it all centers around property rights and the non-aggression principle, which is just the idea that you should never initiate violence against a non-violent person. | ||
| And then you just draw conclusions from that. | ||
| Well, those are all really standard points in libertarianism that get brought up all the time. | ||
| But why is it that libertarianism, even though it's so attractive to young, intelligent guys like you, why is it that that has never caught hold in a mainstream way as an alternative third party? | ||
| Because it really... | ||
| You've had people like... | ||
| That run as independents, that get a little bit of momentum, but it's always, people always look at it like, well, that's never going to work out. | ||
| He's not really going to get there. | ||
| You know, vote for Hillary. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because she has a chance. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You get those... | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, I think there's a game, and there's, you know, it's... | ||
| The government is a power center, and it's in their interest to continue having power. | ||
| And I think usually most people are much more, if they get close to that power, they're much more incentivized to try to expand it and try to keep it than to at any point say, guys, you know, it'd be a lot more moral if we didn't have this. | ||
| And, you know, I mean, it's like, why did slavery persist for so long? | ||
| Because, you know, it's a good way to get cotton without having to work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, people are getting rich off this thing. | ||
| They certainly are. | ||
| But I wonder how much time it has left. | ||
| It seems like it's a reoccurring theme that comes up over and over again when people talk about the problems that we have with running society the way we're currently doing it, is that this two-party system is just so preposterous. | ||
| It's so ridiculous to say that you have these two groups, and they're both funded by the same people, competing against each other allegedly, but yet nothing changes. | ||
| And that this is the system, and this is the only way to do it. | ||
| Like, well, how come you can't have, like, a hundred different systems and ideas? | ||
| What is this grand old party? | ||
| Oh, what's the idea of there being a leader for 320 million people? | ||
| I mean, none of it makes any sense. | ||
| A donkey? | ||
| It's so weird how there's this big show about how much they hate each other, but then they just come together over the most important issues. | ||
| I always feel betrayed when I see Clinton laughing it up with Bush. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck are you guys laughing about? | ||
| How many people died when you were in office? | ||
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| And how the media's angle on it. | ||
| MSNBC or Fox News who supposedly hate each other, but when you see all the presidents together, they're all kind of celebrating it. | ||
| They're like, it's nice that we could all come together and have this toast. | ||
| What? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought, wait, so you're all full of shit. | ||
| And how is it that, you know, you have these things where, so the Republicans hate Obama, Obama hates the Republicans, they both think the other one's the reason why the country's falling apart. | ||
| But then when, like, you know, something like the NDAA bill, where he says he can arrest American citizens with no charges and hold them indefinitely, we all just get together and sign that. | ||
| Oh, that's fine. | ||
| And the media, that's not even like that big of a deal. | ||
| They just passed a law that said they can arrest you. | ||
| The whole idea that you have rights, we just overthrew that in one bill. | ||
| But that'll get a mention here or there. | ||
| But you have to understand that that won't be used. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| That's all for terrorists. | ||
| That's my favorite. | ||
| Obama actually, he put in a signing statement when he signed it into law. | ||
| He said, and I guess this was to appease the liberal activists who maybe would be a little upset with him, but he said, my administration has no plans. | ||
| Of detaining American citizens. | ||
| But we want to let you know that we read your emails. | ||
| If you fuck with us, we're coming hard. | ||
| Who's okay with that? | ||
| It's just frustrating for, I think, everybody that nothing changes and that this two-party system was in place when we were kids, it's in place now, and it's quite possibly it'll be in place 50 years from now when we're dead. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I do think something is changing in this election cycle, and I don't know that it's purely a positive force, but there's definitely something going on. | ||
| I mean, if you look at what's going on with Trump, and I'm no fan, but it is a moment. | ||
| Trump is having a real moment, and he is kind of tearing down this matrix. | ||
| And Bernie also had an interesting moment. | ||
| It's very interesting that they always, the powers that be kind of decide who these people are going to be, and it does seem like this year people are really rejecting that on a very grassroots level, like, no, we don't buy this bullshit. | ||
| I wonder how much longer they can keep it up. | ||
| Well, there's no real candidates. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| You're dealing with scrubs. | ||
| It's like this minor league ball team that wants to play in the Super Bowl because there's some sort of a strike amongst really good players. | ||
| It really seems like that. | ||
| I mean, come on, man. | ||
| You're telling me that Donald Trump is the best we can do? | ||
| Or Hillary Clinton, what you were talking about before. | ||
| I mean, just as comedians, how many charismatic, just interesting people do you know? | ||
| This show you do, there's so many different really smart, interesting people. | ||
| You're telling me we can't find one? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think, like you said before, the real problem is that a good person... | ||
| Or any type of honest person would right away go, no, I can't rule 320 million people. | ||
| Not only that, you would never get to that position. | ||
| Because you would be compromised every step of the way. | ||
| And then you would become what they are. | ||
| I mean, it's a really rigged game. | ||
| And it's rigged through lobbyists and special interest groups and money and campaign funds. | ||
| By the time you get to that position, unless you're Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump, and that's what makes it interesting, is they're the only two people that represents two completely new paradigms. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You have Bernie, who is this weird socialist type character, democratic socialist character, and then you have Trump, who's like the ultimate capitalist. | ||
| And both people represent entirely new groups because Donald Trump is essentially at least partially self-funded. | ||
| And, you know, now he's trying to get money, and there's... | ||
| Well, he's already the nominee, though. | ||
| I mean, he's cemented. | ||
| So it's an interesting position where he's gonna get some support. | ||
| Yes, but so far, basically, Trump and Sanders both found a way to do it without taking corporate money. | ||
| Trump found a way to speak over the media and get the media to keep him in their 24-hour news cycle. | ||
| Yeah, he manipulated the shit out of everybody. | ||
| But they're both... | ||
| I mean, I gotta say, they're not... | ||
| I don't look at, while their personalities are very different, I don't know if anything about their policies are actually diametrically opposed. | ||
| I think they're both kind of populists in a lot of ways. | ||
| Bernie Sanders has more of an ideology, like this is my philosophy on what government should do, and Trump's just kind of like, well, let's let it rip. | ||
| But they're both kind of like, let me tell you what you want to hear to the crowd. | ||
| Well, Trump is a carnival barker. | ||
| And, you know, he talks about that in The Art of the Deal. | ||
| I mean, his whole style of campaigning is all mapped out in his books, where he talks about this larger-than-life persona that he's created in order to make himself a public figure, in order to make himself more wealthy, more popular, and more able to get things done. | ||
| I mean, this is like a strategy. | ||
| This whole thing that he's doing, like, and I called him, we're gonna make that wall 10 feet higher! | ||
| Like, that's all, like, carnival barker shit. | ||
| But it's amazing that he... | ||
| He's stepped into the game of politics and almost ripped it open from the inside where he's like, I'm just talking like a dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not even doing... | ||
| And I don't know how Hillary Clinton's going to handle this guy. | ||
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| Well, to be fair, he just said there's no problem. | ||
| No, look, it's amazing. | ||
| Someone was insinuating that he had small hands, so he had small penis. | ||
| And I just said, I want to let you know there's no problems there. | ||
| He made a, I have a big dick reference. | ||
| So here's what happened, right? | ||
| This guy, this was like, I think a couple decades ago, okay? | ||
| There was this guy who worked for Vanity Fair, and he wrote something about Trump having small hands. | ||
| And Trump sent him a picture, like headshots, of his hands. | ||
| And a note being like, I don't have small hands. | ||
| Like, he actually responded to him. | ||
| And this was out there. | ||
| Like, I heard some people talk about this. | ||
| So Marco Rubio knew if he went at his hands, this would, like, get to him. | ||
| Yeah, but it doesn't make sense, because his hands aren't small. | ||
| No. | ||
| But for whatever reason, he said something. | ||
| He goes, Marco Rubio said he's got small hands and you know what they say about guys with small hands. | ||
| And this is the maniac that is Donald Trump. | ||
| He couldn't not bring that up. | ||
| So the next debate, he goes, and by the way, he said I have small hands. | ||
| And look at these hands. | ||
| They're pretty good. | ||
| Am I right? | ||
| And just so you know, he couldn't stop there. | ||
| And just so you know, he implied that because of these small hands, that means something else is small. | ||
| And I promise you, there's no problem there. | ||
| Yeah, it was very bizarre. | ||
| Strange. | ||
| I mean, I guess his fingers are relatively short. | ||
| They're not great. | ||
| But there's nothing weird, like, where you'd have to comment about it. | ||
| They're not presidential hands. | ||
| I'll say that. | ||
| Abe Lincoln probably has some long-ass crazy hands. | ||
| I mean, it's a weird thing to criticize, though, because you're talking about something that someone can't change. | ||
| It's like making fun of someone's ears when they're running for president. | ||
| It's all bizarre. | ||
| But it's very strange. | ||
| But it is a tell to Donald Trump that he can't not address it. | ||
| Like, if you put that out there, he's gotta come back. | ||
| Yeah, but it worked. | ||
| The problem is his comeback was effective. | ||
| So then he wins. | ||
| So Marco Rubio, who's just this weird mama's boy looking putz, he just doesn't have any charisma. | ||
| When he would be jabbing back and forth with Trump, like, dude, you're an amateur. | ||
| He's going to chew you up. | ||
| He's used to being criticized. | ||
| He's used to being arrogant. | ||
| He's used to shutting people down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's just gonna bark over you. | ||
| That's another one of my issues with Gary Johnson, is that I just feel like, man, if the LP wants to do something, if the Libertarian, you know, if they want to have a moment here, and you're telling me the hope is if we can get to 15% in the polls, then we get into a debate. | ||
| And I have to overlook the fact that this guy was already in a debate that nobody remembers because he didn't do anything. | ||
| And now he's got to go debate Trump? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Trump! | ||
| You gotta send someone who's got some type of... | ||
| Well, he's gonna be in the debates, though, right? | ||
| Gary Johnson? | ||
| No, he's gotta get 15%. | ||
| He's gotta poll that. | ||
| And he's gotta get into the polls, then he's gotta get 15% in the polls. | ||
| It's a whole fucking thing. | ||
| Right, and they also have to choose which polls. | ||
| But I don't think they find him threatening. | ||
| It might actually be smart for them to allow him in, to expose... | ||
| I mean, I think both sides would probably think that he would expose something that the other side has, and both sides would probably be under the impression there's an opportunity to capitalize on it. | ||
| Well, I think the left... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| A third party really made any noise was Ross Perot, and they changed all the rules after that guy got out of there. | ||
| Commission for presidential debates. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It used to be like the League of Women Voters or whatever used to run it, and now just the Democrats and Republicans, they were like, let's never let that happen again. | ||
| Yeah, they fucked up. | ||
| They let that crazy old billionaire buy time on TV. Remember that? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You're being hoodwinked, and I'll show you how. | ||
| Yeah, you don't want some crazy old Texas billionaire on television in the 1980s or whatever the fuck it was. | ||
| It's one of those things to me where I don't see how it's going to change. | ||
| I look at it and I go, boy, they can just keep running this fucking game for another four years and another four years and it'll keep going and then we'll be like 70 going, what the fuck, man? | ||
| See, I don't think so. | ||
| I think we're on the verge of the collapse. | ||
| And I don't know exactly where verge is. | ||
| I don't know how much longer. | ||
| President Trump might do it. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But I think if you look at a few kind of like fundamentals... | ||
| We're in the process of an empire falling. | ||
| Like the far, far too expanded militarily, drowning in debt. | ||
| And if you really look at the debt, I mean, it's not just the 19 trillion. | ||
| There's like over 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities. | ||
| Like all these Medicare and Social Security and all these programs, they're all going to blow up. | ||
| We've also got just trillions and trillions of dollars that are extended being held at these big banks that... | ||
| There's all these factors and also look at the moral kind of like the cultural decay kind of going on that Trump I think kind of embodies. | ||
| I think there's a lot of Indicators that we're in the crash process. | ||
| Well, he embodies the cultural decay in that one sense. | ||
| And on the other sense, you've got the cultural decay by social justice warriors and people super oversensitive, who Ralph Nader is rallying against now. | ||
| I pulled this up on Twitter today. | ||
| Ralph Nader was saying that men today are oversensitive because they never had to deal with the draft. | ||
| He's like, you guys are complaining about nothing. | ||
| Like, this is nonsense. | ||
| Good for Ralph Nader, man. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Ralph Nader on trigger warnings. | ||
| Young men are far too sensitive because they've never been in a draft. | ||
| Isn't that fucking hilarious? | ||
| They're talking about trigger warnings. | ||
| Trigger warnings make me want to fucking hit somebody. | ||
| It really does. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It makes me so, it's so fucking stupid that you're supposed to protect people from, first of all, that's not even how trigger works. | ||
| Triggers work by like being in a place where something bad happened to you or hearing a sound or seeing a thing. | ||
| It's not bringing up the act of, like if someone says, you know, murder or Oh, my dad was murdered. | ||
| It's a trigger warning. | ||
| Why didn't you warn me? | ||
| The trigger hit me. | ||
| But that's the whole world's going to trigger you then. | ||
| Then every fucking piece of media, every movie, every television show has a potential for being a trigger warning. | ||
| And it's not as if I just hate people and I don't care if you're triggered and deal with your past. | ||
| I think we have a big epidemic of soldiers coming back suffering from PTSD. I'd like to not send them to wars so we don't have to deal with this. | ||
| But the idea that we should... | ||
| We should change, we should like nerf foam the world in case you're triggered. | ||
| So a college now can't explore anything they want to because what if someone had something violent in their past happen? | ||
| And then it seems to be a very convenient thing where you know like the feminists or the social justice warriors are like policing rape jokes in the comedy community but they don't ever seem to be policing like a war joke or you know it's like they don't seem to care about men being triggered and Like you were saying, it's mostly just infantile bullshit. | ||
| It's just these privileged kids on college campuses who want to shut down a conservative speaker from talking. | ||
| It's really insanity. | ||
| Yeah, and it's so fucking... | ||
| The way they're doing is rabid. | ||
| It's like they're so frothy at the mouth and so taken away with the idea that they're doing some incredible right and this has to be done and this justice must prevail and transgender people should be able to use the women's room without... | ||
| You know, any questioning whatsoever about where they stand. | ||
| There's some weirdness going on today that is like what we were talking about when people are young, when you can send them to war, and when you send these young people to war that they don't really have enough data yet. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of that going on where there's a social war, and these people don't have a lot of data either, and they're just furious and foaming at the mouth, and when it all is said and done, the dust settles. | ||
| When they're older, they're probably not even going to be on that team anymore. | ||
| You know, you're probably gonna wise up and realize how fucking goofy those people you're hanging around with are who are getting mad at white people for wearing dreadlocks. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Social appropriation, cultural appropriation. | ||
| It's like, listen, we all hate white people in dreadlocks, but you've actually made me someone I hate more than white people in dreadlocks. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| That's how much you've fucked up. | ||
| Not only that, you don't even know where dreadlocks came from. | ||
| First of all, white people have had dreadlocks throughout history. | ||
| Well, when you were comparing the kind of cultural decay from the Trump supporters and the social justice warriors, I do see a lot of it just rooted in, like, anti-intellectualism. | ||
| I mean, there's just, like, no... | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| You don't need to know anything. | ||
| I mean, they will shut down a Christina Hoff Summers speech. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I think she's amazing. | ||
| I saw you did a great podcast with her. | ||
| But, I mean, she is... | ||
| She's a feminist! | ||
| She's a liberal! | ||
| She's a liberal feminist who's just going, oh, by the way, your data is a little off. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And they're like, oh, rape apologist! | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| She just talks about the facts, and she calls herself a factual feminist. | ||
| That's her statement. | ||
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| And there's something wrong with telling people they have things wrong to them. | ||
| I mean, this is how crazy the left has gotten. | ||
| Because you're 20, and you've figured everything out, evidently. | ||
| Well, it's just noise. | ||
| There's a lot of noise. | ||
| And sometimes in those noise, there's some important points on both sides. | ||
| But, boy, there's a whole lot of noise, too. | ||
| And it's a lot of arguing, a lot of yelling gets done, and not a lot of progress gets made. | ||
| Just people dig in their heels, and they take a side, and they draw a line in the sand, and you've got the people on the right and the people on the left. | ||
| Yeah, like you said at the beginning, it becomes a big team identity thing, and then it's just justifying the position you're already in. | ||
| So you're just looking for confirmation bias, like, my team's right, or my team's right. | ||
| Yeah, and why is everybody so goddamn sensitive? | ||
| Like, the gender pronoun thing is so fucking bananas. | ||
| Like, you should know that if you're a dude and you look like a woman, okay, that people are gonna get that wrong on occasion. | ||
| Like, okay, what do you look like, okay? | ||
| Do you look like Catherine Zeta-Jones in a bikini? | ||
| Well, if you do, people are gonna say her. | ||
| And if they say her, that's not a bad thing. | ||
| Oh, you're assuming my gender? | ||
| You know, there's people out there that they think that you should name your dog gender-neutral names, because your dog can't decide. | ||
| Like, this is a real debate amongst feminists and social justice warriors who have animals, whether or not they should impose their stereotypes that they have on human beings on their dogs and cats. | ||
| Look, and it's just insanity, but I feel like there's something, like on these college campuses, that's almost like, that's housing that. | ||
| Like, they're letting them develop these ridiculous ideas, and I'll tell you, I think part of it, I really blame the college professors for a lot of this, because I think these are also people who have, a lot of them have lived in college their entire lives. | ||
| They're people who go to college and then just stay in college. | ||
| And they get post-graduate degrees and then they teach. | ||
| And they're kind of letting this happen. | ||
| And no one's going like, okay, shut up. | ||
| That's not a real issue. | ||
| Look, I'm all for, like, I'm a complete libertarian. | ||
| You should be able to, if you have a doctor who's willing to perform a surgery on you and you want to identify as her instead of him, I'll call you her because who cares? | ||
| I'm not going to call you Z. No, that's fucking ridiculous. | ||
| But you also can't, even if I'm willing to call you something, you can't make it a huge issue if not everybody is willing to call you that. | ||
| We're fighting wars here. | ||
| Have you seen HERE? H-I-R? Yeah. | ||
| There's like 18 of those now. | ||
| Yeah, like LGBTQ is not even close to all the letters that are on that thing anymore. | ||
| Well, how about in New York, they're gonna fine businesses if they intentionally misgender you. | ||
| Like, you can get sued and fined for like a quarter million dollars if you don't call someone Z. See, and this is where it becomes like a real fucking problem, is it's like, okay, you know what, you guys can have your little fun and games and your safe space on college campus all you want to, but now you start bringing in the forceful arm of government to actually go fuck over a business owner who's trying to provide jobs and, you know, feed his kids. | ||
| But it becomes a problem even in colleges. | ||
| Because what if you don't subscribe to those ideologies? | ||
| And you've got to go to school with these monkeys. | ||
| And they're all running around insisting their pronoun is Z-H-E-E. And if you don't say it, you're a shitlord. | ||
| Like, whoa. | ||
| Yeah, well, it's also real scary. | ||
| The fact that if you've ever had a drunken hookup, you're a rapist. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But by the way, only the man. | ||
| Only the man. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| And that's what happened at Occidental here. | ||
| And when we talked about it on the podcast with... | ||
| Professor, renegade history... | ||
| Thaddeus Russell. | ||
| Thaddeus Russell, who's brilliant, brilliant guy. | ||
| And we were talking about how incredible it is that they find a way to justify two people hooking up with text messages, with a girl saying, come on over, bring condoms. | ||
| They have sex, and the guy is the one who's a rapist because they were both drunk. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| The guy got kicked out of school, and he's still in the middle of lawsuits. | ||
| Oh, it's insane, but it's also like a fascinating glimpse into how you see things, because it's weird how you... | ||
| It's almost like these guys come back to be the caricature of what the 1950s chauvinist was supposed to be, assuming that women are these fragile, delicate creatures who can't handle the same thing a man can. | ||
| It's like, you're really being the sexist here. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I always say, like, all those guys who would... | ||
| Like, I remember there was a big thing on your show when Jamie Kilstein was on about the Tosh rape joke, but I always wonder when... | ||
| And I've argued with a few people like that who I do... | ||
| Now, by the way, I'm not throwing this out in the stupid way that it's thrown out when they go, more men are raped than women are raped. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| But why is it, seeing as that that is a fact, prison included, and stuff like that, why is it that every time you think of this scenario where someone's triggered from a rape joke, it's always a woman? | ||
| You're always like, what if there's a woman in the crowd who's been triggered? | ||
| It's never a concern that it could be a man who could be triggered. | ||
| It's because we're tribal. | ||
| And we break off into male versus female teams. | ||
| And if the males are the rapists on both accounts, men are raping the women and they're raping the men. | ||
| See, I told you men are shit. | ||
| They're raping each other. | ||
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| But no one seems to feel for that rape victim of a man. | ||
| No, because they're men. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Because they're on the wrong team. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| You're on a shitlord team. | ||
| Kurt made this point. | ||
| Did you ever see the Law& Order episode? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I'll tell you now. | ||
| No. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| I've never seen any Law& Order. | ||
| I've never watched that show. | ||
| Here, they did the one on stand-up comics and rape jokes. | ||
| No. | ||
| Dude, it's... | ||
| No, they didn't. | ||
| It's the worst thing that's ever been made. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Dude, it's not even like you can't even believe how bad it is. | ||
| Until you see it. | ||
| It's like this guy makes a rape joke at a comedy club. | ||
| And of course it kills. | ||
| Because that's what happens when you tell a woman in the crowd you hope she gets raped. | ||
| Everyone just laughs at the top of the... | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| And then by the end, then she gets raped after that because he made the rape joke. | ||
| It leads to rape. | ||
| And then, I'll do you one better. | ||
| At the end, he's actually the rapist. | ||
| The guy telling the rape joke turns out to be the rape. | ||
| It was like the most ridiculous, irresponsible thing ever. | ||
| And Kurt Metzger made this point. | ||
| I just think it's so fucking funny. | ||
| But he goes, don't they threaten men with rape on every episode of that show? | ||
| Like every episode, they're like, you better start talking. | ||
| Men like you don't do very good in prison. | ||
| And you're like, well, really, you're not going to just go clean that up. | ||
| You're going to threaten me with it. | ||
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| That's so fun. | ||
| What's such a shitty show? | ||
| Those shows are all shit. | ||
| Every one of those crime shows. | ||
| What the fuck is it about America where we want to watch hospital shows and police shows? | ||
| That's all we want to watch. | ||
| We want to watch people that are in trouble, someone's trying to hide from the law, or someone that's worried that mom's not going to make it. | ||
| And they're holding her hand, and the doctor's working furiously, and a young, handsome doctor, he leaves after 16 hours, and he's sweaty, takes his hand, and then another guy comes in with a gunshot wound, and back to work. | ||
| Wow, so noble. | ||
| Cut to, you know, commercials for fucking Tide deodorant, and whatever. | ||
| Shampoo, and fucking Toyota trucks, and everybody goes to sleep. | ||
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| Wake up in the morning. | ||
| Time to consume. | ||
| We are a weird fucking people. | ||
| We're the weirdest thing. | ||
| We're the weirdest thing. | ||
| Collectively, you have to look at us as what we are as a giant superorganism. | ||
| We look at ourselves inside of our culture and our belief systems and our actions and what gets done and the pollution of the environment. | ||
| Overall, what is the species doing when you're looking at it as an outsider? | ||
| If you were completely removed from culture, completely removed from tradition and communication, and you just looked at us as some weird organism, what is it trying to do? | ||
| Well, it's just making better stuff all the time. | ||
| That's all it's doing. | ||
| And all this other stuff that it does is just to distract it while it's making better stuff. | ||
| All these little chicken dances and peacock feathers and all the fucking weird noises it makes. | ||
| What are you signaling? | ||
| I have a mattress and I'm carrying it around until my rapist is brought to justice. | ||
| All that madness and all the arguing and all the craziness that's going on is just a distraction while it's making better and faster computers. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| It's creating an artificial life form and it's going to do it under this guise of Christianity and Islam and all these different things. | ||
| It's like, oh no, Islam's the way. | ||
| Oh no, Christians are the way. | ||
| Meanwhile, there's a robot. | ||
| A robot overlord that the Switch is about to get turned on. | ||
| And you're fucked. | ||
| You're all fucked. | ||
| It's gonna wipe you out. | ||
| It's the evolutionary game of numbers, we were saying before. | ||
| So you need to throw all these people out to get a tiny percentage that will be geniuses that will keep this thing moving. | ||
| And then you need... | ||
| The rest of us are basically just waste. | ||
| It's like, hey, you're just jerking off and watching some dumb reality show. | ||
| But if you keep fucking and keep fucking, eventually a genius will pop out who will move this thing forward a little bit and a little bit. | ||
| We're essentially like a giant hive of worker ants with potential options Like you really can write Harry Potter and break away from the rest of the worker ants You really can have a kid that's a fucking math genius because you dropped him on his head when he was a baby You don't want to tell anybody why this kid's so fucking good at math There's a lot of that going on, man. | ||
| And those little fuckers grow up to be like some Elon Musk character that starts making electric cars and a hyperloop that gets you to San Francisco in three minutes. | ||
| There's some weird shit happening, and it's all happening, like, exponentially all around us all the time, adding up while we're worried about trigger warnings and whether or not trannies can use the fucking men's room or the women's room and, like... | ||
| That whole culture on the left of whatever you want to call it, like the social justice warrior, people call it the regressive left. | ||
| I like that term a lot. | ||
| I like that term. | ||
| But it really is just insanity. | ||
| I was watching recently, did you ever see the 30 for 30 on the Duke Lacrosse show? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Scandal. | ||
| I mean, it's amazing. | ||
| First off, that accusation, it's not like it was a gray area, or like they had sex and she was a little drunk. | ||
| Like, nothing happened. | ||
| They didn't have sex. | ||
| This crazy person, who's in jail for murder now, made something up. | ||
| And it's interesting to watch it, and looking back, you know what happened. | ||
| You know she made it up. | ||
| And seeing the social justice warriors protest these guys, and the white knights, the dudes who are hanging out right next to the feminist chick going, These lacrosse guys are out of control and they should go to jail. | ||
| And you're like, dude, nothing fucking happened. | ||
| How about Nancy Grace? | ||
| Nancy Grace never even took any heat for that. | ||
| She was on TV calling for their arrest. | ||
| On TV accusing them of this in front of millions and millions of people. | ||
| And somehow or another, she didn't get sued. | ||
| Somehow or another, she didn't get brought to jail. | ||
| They should have pulled her fucking show off the air. | ||
| I mean, what does it take to get fired? | ||
| It takes being a man. | ||
| If she was a man doing the exact same thing about a woman doing something horrible, Oh, I bet you're right. | ||
| If there was a team of women that were alleged to have done something terrible and he was ranting and raving about these women being brought to justice and brought to jail and it turns out there was no crime being committed at all, you'd have to apologize. | ||
| She didn't even have to apologize. | ||
| She didn't do shit. | ||
| I can't remember who the other reporter... | ||
| Do you remember at the end of the documentary, this is the one who apologizes? | ||
| But she actually, she goes like, she's like, look, she apologized and she wrote a thing, like an apology to them. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Then they cut back to the articles that she was writing at the time, and it's like this insane... | ||
| She's like, these boys all know what happened, and they know they're guilty, and they need to be punished for this, blah, blah. | ||
| And then she's, even in acknowledging it, she goes, well, you know, I do think the fact that I was sexually assaulted in college probably did come into play. | ||
| Of course, you poor little... | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| Now you can't be a journalist anymore. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| What really happened in college? | ||
| Do we know? | ||
| Or are you calling sexual assault getting drunk and getting fucked? | ||
| Because that might have happened too, because that's really acceptable to say today. | ||
| And that's disturbing as fuck. | ||
| And look, even if you were, even if she was completely, you know, in, like, legitimately sexually assaulted, not in any of these bullshit gray areas, like it was an actual sexual assault, the idea that you would, you, like, you're covering a sexual assault case, okay? | ||
| And you were sexually assaulted before. | ||
| So right away, what an honest journalist would do would be recuse yourself. | ||
| You would go, I can't really do this because I'm too emotionally invested in something that happened in my life. | ||
| But now, to not do that, you're covering this, something that happened to you that you would have to be aware of. | ||
| I gotta make sure I don't let that creep into my professionalism. | ||
| But you're using that to try to, you know, to go after these guys. | ||
| And justifying it after it's been proven that it was incorrect. | ||
| Well, to her credit, she did apologize once it was proven to be incorrect. | ||
| But still, like you said, that's not enough. | ||
| But didn't you say that in the apology, she was saying how she'd been sexually assaulted? | ||
| She was kind of using that as an excuse. | ||
| Yeah, you can't do that. | ||
| It doesn't mean anything to these guys. | ||
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| Because they didn't do anything. | ||
| So they're totally innocent. | ||
| Those are someone's babies. | ||
| Someone's babies, young boys who grew up to be young men, and they didn't do shit. | ||
| And you are writing stories saying that they know what they did. | ||
| It's like if you were a therapist and you were seeing some 16-year-old kid and you told them to cut off all ties with their parents. | ||
| And then it turned out their parents were really wonderful people. | ||
| And you were like, you know, part of it might have been that my parents were really bad. | ||
| That's exactly what it's like. | ||
| And you're like, well, then you can't be a shrink anymore. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you, but you're bad at your job. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's cult tactics, right? | ||
| That's one of the big things they do is tell you to get away from your parents, get away from your family. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| Which, to be fair, a lot of people's families probably suck, so it's really easy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's easy. | ||
| If you saw most of the people who end up in cults, I bet their families did really suck, too. | ||
| They're lucky, a lot of those people. | ||
| That are in cults. | ||
| They're lucky they're not sucking dick for cheeseburgers somewhere. | ||
| A lot of them are just morons. | ||
| Look, there's a frequency that some people operate on that's really easy to fucking hijack. | ||
| There's a lot of people out there that are just dumb. | ||
| And you're not going to fix that. | ||
| They're dull. | ||
| They're dull-minded folk that really could be easily influenced. | ||
| And that's why democracy is such a fucked system to begin with. | ||
| Because it's everyone who's playing to that, who can whip those people up and get on their frequency. | ||
| And then there's smart people that can be manipulated. | ||
| They can be manipulated once they attach themselves to an ideology. | ||
| We were talking about people on the left that are avoiding all the craziness about Hillary. | ||
| You had a quote that I really like that's on your Twitter. | ||
| That if Hillary was a man that had done all the same things that she... | ||
| What is the quote? | ||
| I said, if Hillary was a male Republican with the exact same voting record, all of her supporters would hate her with a passion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And it's 100% true. | ||
| 100% true. | ||
| I mean, this is not controversial in any way or shape or form. | ||
| Hillary is, you know, I mean, in the stuff I was saying before, but she's like courting the left. | ||
| She's courting people who are supposed to be liberals. | ||
| And you'll go, she's supported every single war of my lifetime. | ||
| Every single war. | ||
| And they can get past that. | ||
| She didn't support gay marriage up until 2013. Even their pet issues. | ||
| Yeah, she's a weird one, man. | ||
| She's a really, really weird one. | ||
| That fucking Libya thing. | ||
| We came, we saw, he died! | ||
| Like, that's okay? | ||
| Like, are you kidding me? | ||
| You remember when the fucking Vermont guy screamed, and then we're gonna go all the way to the West! | ||
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| Howard Dean. | ||
| And that one yell did him in. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| They saw that and they're like, fuck this guy. | ||
| We came, we saw, he died! | ||
| You don't think that lady's fucking crazy? | ||
| You don't think that lady's fucking crazy? | ||
| You're down for her? | ||
| That is completely an ideology thing. | ||
| She's on your team. | ||
| You're gonna go along with it, just like it's a religion, just like you're subscribing to some predetermined thing. | ||
| It's weird for me to see. | ||
| First of all, it's weird that she wants to be president. | ||
| Like, aren't you old? | ||
| Like, you're an old lady. | ||
| How much energy do you have? | ||
| You got a ton of money. | ||
| You just had your first grandkid. | ||
| Where's your perspective? | ||
| Like, what are you trying to do? | ||
| Are you trying to make history as a woman? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| I mean, do you want to just, like, get back at your husband for getting his dick sucked in 1991 or whatever the fuck it was? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't even think it's that. | ||
| I think it's... | ||
| I mean, who knows? | ||
| You know, I'm not in their head, but I think these people are, like, power brokers that just want more and more of it. | ||
| And it's a real... | ||
| It is probably... | ||
| A thrill unlike anything we could imagine to have that much power. | ||
| And they've tasted a little bit of that, you know? | ||
| Yeah, it just seems to me that she's like so old that she would just want to chill. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It just doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
| She's an old lady. | ||
| Like, she doesn't have good health. | ||
| That was the other thing they're concerned with. | ||
| She had some health issues, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Didn't she have like concussions or something? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How did she get hit in the head? | ||
| I forget what it was, but it was when... | ||
| Bill probably beat the fuck out of her. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| Turns out that Bill just wailed on her and she wants to keep it quiet. | ||
| Bill fucking KO'd her. | ||
| He head kicked her. | ||
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| He's been accused of violence. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| She has suffered from feigning spells since at least 2005. In that year, she passed out, presumably sober, while giving a speech. | ||
| In 2012, she passed out yet again and suffered a concussion. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| Presumably sober is something that if they ever have to say it, it's just not good. | ||
| Yeah, you got issues. | ||
| We're always presumably sober. | ||
| I'm not usually presumably sober. | ||
| But this idea that she fell asleep and hit her fucking head. | ||
| Like when people fall and hit their head, it's one of the worst things about getting knocked out. | ||
| It's not getting punched in the head. | ||
| It's you falling down and getting hit in the head with the earth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like their heads bounce off the ground. | ||
| That's like a big issue in street fights and stuff when you watch someone get sucker punched. | ||
| They fall down and their head gets bounced off the curb. | ||
| And I think people who have like epilepsy and things like that, like that's the big fear that what happens is that you end up cracking your head on the ground. | ||
| It's not just the... | ||
| Seizures. | ||
| Seizures. | ||
| Yeah, there's... | ||
| There's something... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know, Hillary Clinton said recently, and this would probably be one of the tactics she tries to use against Trump, but she said something along the way. | ||
| She goes, you know, I just... | ||
| I don't know if he's the type of guy we would want having control of the nuclear codes. | ||
| And it's just like an interesting thing to look at where you're like, how crazy is it that any one person has control of those nuclear codes? | ||
| Like, we're just counting on one person to not snap? | ||
| To not kill the whole world. | ||
| To just... | ||
| Yeah, hopefully you don't ever just like, I've had enough, I'm fucking... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, we know that people kill themselves. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That alone should just disqualify human beings from having that kind of power. | ||
| Are human beings capable of killing people? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| For no reason? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Randomly? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| What about killing themselves? | ||
| All the time. | ||
| How often? | ||
| Every day. | ||
| How many people? | ||
| A lot. | ||
| Oh, we can't have people run it. | ||
| So let's have a person who's a politician who's in the highest stress job imaginable. | ||
| Let's have them just have control of those codes. | ||
| Unfortunately, that is the green light for the robot overlords to take over because we can't trust people. | ||
| Well, the robots are just going to be way more sober about this. | ||
| They're going to make rational decisions Based on logic and mathematics and possibilities and probabilities and the understanding of human race that we really can't comprehend because we're just monkeys. | ||
| Is this when you bring me into your giver society? | ||
| No, I'm going to bring you to one of those landmark meetings. | ||
| Those landmark forum meetings. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's entirely possible that AI is going to be how we dictate government in the future. | ||
| Yeah, Allen Iverson's going to rule. | ||
| No, I'm kidding. | ||
| Basketball player? | ||
| Yeah, basketball player. | ||
| They used to call him AI. That's a dumb joke. | ||
| But yeah, it does seem like that would be an interesting tipping point. | ||
| I do feel like I'm more on the side of technology than on the side of being afraid of it. | ||
| Oh yeah, me too. | ||
| I just feel like it's going to be more of a... | ||
| Humans will be guiding it, at least to a certain point. | ||
| And I think it's gonna make life a lot better. | ||
| I think we are some weird sea anemone type character. | ||
| Some weird fucking primitive life form that is really kind of outdated and it's not gonna- we're not gonna make it. | ||
| You think we're going to have to combine? | ||
| Yeah, we're going to symbiotic. | ||
| We're going to become symbiotes. | ||
| We're going to definitely have computer chips in our brain. | ||
| It'll start off with you'll be able to store your memories and share them with your grandchildren. | ||
| All we have to do is install this chip. | ||
| And the next thing you know, we can increase your vision with this retina implant and we can double your IQ in three weeks. | ||
| Oh, fucking sign me up. | ||
| That's hard to say no to. | ||
| Well, I know that your joints are bothering you, Mr. Wilson. | ||
| Let's replace your hips with artificial hips. | ||
| Okay, let's do it. | ||
| Okay, now you got artificial hips. | ||
| And you're like, you know what? | ||
| We found a new way to replicate the spine without any of the pain and issues. | ||
| And we're just going to replace it all with titanium. | ||
| And okay, well, I'm in. | ||
| And the next thing you know, your bones are getting brittle, sir. | ||
| You're getting old. | ||
| Well, fortunately, we figured out a brain transplant with a bio-identical body. | ||
| We're going to take your brain. | ||
| It'll only be outside of your current body for three minutes. | ||
| Whoa, hold on. | ||
| Okay, what am I now? | ||
| Because now I'm a brain inside a new body? | ||
| I don't want to do that surgery the first year they come out with it. | ||
| I want to wait like a few years, let them work the kinks out. | ||
| The problem with that is those people that got it first will take over. | ||
| They'll be reading each other's minds, and flying, and breathing underwater, and you just want to have a chance to compete. | ||
| They're going to gather up all the money and the resources, they're going to have all the hookers, and then they don't even need hookers, because they can orgasm just by pressing their tempo. | ||
| They're just going to jizz in their pants. | ||
| That'll be a big turning point, man. | ||
| If they can ever create a thing where, like, our sexual desires are taken care of... | ||
| Oh yeah, that's gonna happen. | ||
| I mean, yeah, that'll be an interesting, uh, just fundamental change in humanity. | ||
| Well, people get addicted to that. | ||
| That's gonna be a virtual reality thing. | ||
| But then it'll be hollow, because they're gonna get addicted to it, and there's not gonna be any consequences. | ||
| Like, one of the things about sexual conquest... | ||
| I think it's one of the same things with all sorts of uncertainty. | ||
| You never know how it's going to turn out. | ||
| And so there's risk involved, and it's scary. | ||
| And people get addicted to this risk. | ||
| And even the risk of rejection, I mean, it's not like really scary, like anything can go wrong, but there's a game going on. | ||
| Like, can I get these people to love me? | ||
| Like, how do I get these people to love me? | ||
| Oh, I gotta have the right chains on and the right car and show up at the right place and, you know, get the right spot where there's table service and, you know, I have to have a bunch of people that are famous around me so that I look like a pimp. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, so there's the whole identity thing and then it validates your identity to get that chick. | ||
| It doesn't always work. | ||
| Some girls come up and like... | ||
| This motherfucker think he's something. | ||
| And she walks off like, that bitch! | ||
| She doesn't even know who I am! | ||
| You know, and they're trying to, like, figure out a way to become special. | ||
| Well, if everybody just has to, you know, just download the fuck program, and all of a sudden you're in an orgy with a hundred thousand tens all lining up to blow you, like, where's the fun in that? | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| But that's why the human the human experience works in strange ways So maybe then that's what we'll be attracted to like, you know People will want to go back toward kind of the thrill of the hunt like oh, that's easy I think it'll be more like a video game where video games are no fun if you get to play on god mode You know you play a video game on god mode. | ||
| You can't get shot. | ||
| You run around blowing everything away. | ||
| You win. | ||
| It's there's no thrill there. | ||
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It's too easy. | |
| There's no consequences. | ||
| Well, that's the Alan What's his name? | ||
| Alan Watts You ever hear that guy? | ||
| He's like a hippie kind of philosopher guy. | ||
| But he was saying like the idea of like that's why basically this dream that is life, that's why it's like this. | ||
| Because we're like all powerful. | ||
| But then we got to a point where that's no fun anymore. | ||
| So you want to like have life. | ||
| Yeah, what was his quote? | ||
| He was talking about a game. | ||
| He was saying if you were going to construct a game about human civilization, that's exactly what you would construct. | ||
| You would construct a game that's like what we're doing right now. | ||
| And this is exactly how a divine being would play. | ||
| Well, the one I heard him, he was, like, saying, like, almost like, imagine, like, you've already lived through all those God Mode games. | ||
| You got bored of that, and that's why you're here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you're like, yeah, God Mode's not that fun anymore. | ||
| Let's, you know, try something that's a little bit of a challenge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this is, you know, the level of challenge that you wanted. | ||
| Well, it's an interesting philosophy, and it's an interesting perspective. | ||
| But lots of this shit, you know, like, obviously, we don't know exactly where this is going to go, and you're talking, like, a little bit out there. | ||
| Not that this is even that far away. | ||
| I mean, if you look at, like, where a Nokia phone was compared to where, you know, these things are, I mean, it's a big difference. | ||
| It's not that far off into the future, but even just little things, like, personally, I get really fascinated by, like, the implications toward government and how we organize society. | ||
| So when something, I mean... | ||
| We can just 3D print guns, and everybody can 3D print a gun. | ||
| I mean, we don't really need to fight about the Second Amendment anymore, because you've got it. | ||
| Everyone's going to have a gun if they want to have a gun. | ||
| And I feel like there will be a lot of these type of things that just kind of nullify government, whether or not it's like, it doesn't matter, because people can just go over here and do it. | ||
| So we don't even need to have this debate, which to me should be the way lots of things are settled. | ||
| I mean, who cares about debating over gay marriage or something like that? | ||
| Let people associate however they want to associate. | ||
| Don't you think that's one of those non-issues that's an issue to people that actually are gay that want to get married? | ||
| But the reason why it gets bounced around, I feel like it's like a beach ball at a concert. | ||
| They just chuck it out there whenever there's something really serious that people want to talk about. | ||
| They throw that around as if it's like, oh, this needs to be addressed as well. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And then it becomes a distraction. | ||
| I think you're 100% right. | ||
| I think it gets used as a distraction. | ||
| I think it's also something where government, it searches itself somewhere, and then there's going to be a debate over it. | ||
| Whereas if government wasn't there, we just wouldn't need to have any of this. | ||
| Well, I feel the same way about the women's bathroom thing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, it just seems like, come on, man. | ||
| How many transgender people are really using these bathrooms? | ||
| Is this a giant issue? | ||
| And how has this issue been handled up until now? | ||
| And how is this issue being treated with more importance than so many real issues? | ||
| Well, one of the ones that I heard that was brought up, which is so bizarre, is a man who is born a man. | ||
| He has a beard. | ||
| He does not take hormones, but he identifies as a woman. | ||
| He wants to use the woman's room. | ||
| He wants you to call him her, and he has a beard. | ||
| Yeah, I met a guy like that. | ||
| It's just like, am I not allowed to just laugh off this ridiculousness? | ||
| Exactly, you're not allowed to, because when it comes to gender, you can't be preposterous. | ||
| If you think you're a fox, and you want to wear a fox hat, I'm allowed to mock you. | ||
| But if you're a 50-year-old dude with a beard and you have lipstick on, you want to be called Z, I'm not allowed to say anything. | ||
| Now we're talking about gender. | ||
| Completely healthy, normal guy. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| And fuck everybody who thinks like that. | ||
| You guys are a bunch of little nonsense babies. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And you're ruining the way people communicate. | ||
| And what do we have left as comedians if a guy in a dress isn't funny? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's a really important point. | ||
| Well, my point is that, you know, I was furious when this Caitlyn Jenner thing was going on when you were supposed to say that she looks good. | ||
| Like, no one was allowed to go, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| Surgery's good now? | ||
| Like, it's good to get your jaw shaved down? | ||
| Everybody should celebrate that and say you look really good? | ||
| Like, no, she doesn't look good. | ||
| 60-year-old dudes in dresses almost never look really good. | ||
| Yeah, like... | ||
| Even if it was a chick at that age, I probably wouldn't be talking about how good she looks. | ||
| But you're telling me a dude in a dress... | ||
| Still has a dick, but had some stuff done to his face, and I have to pretend that's a hot chick now. | ||
| Frozen face, weird chin thing going on where they shaved his chin down, or her chin down, and then gets a boob job. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| If you're a 60-year-old woman and you get a boob job, someone needs to fucking hug you. | ||
| Okay? | ||
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| Relax. | ||
| What if Hillary Clinton got a boob job? | ||
| And she was like, I want to show Donald Trump these babies are here to run the country! | ||
| You're like, whoa! | ||
| I mean, this is literally what we're talking about. | ||
| I would like her more. | ||
| Hillary Clinton, she's at a commensurate age, right? | ||
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Yes. | |
| How old is she? | ||
| 64. 70, I think. | ||
| She's 70? | ||
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She's close to 70, I think. | |
| Maybe 68, I want to say. | ||
| Well, how old is Bruce Jenner? | ||
| He's like 63 or something? | ||
| 64? | ||
| They're in the fucking ballpark. | ||
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Yep. | |
| They're in the ballpark. | ||
| So if Hillary all of a sudden got a boob job, everybody would be like, what the fuck is wrong with her? | ||
| But he gets a boob job, and because it's about gender, we're all supposed to just ignore the fact that he's got a frozen face, that the chin's been cut with a fucking grinder to resemble a female face. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| All things are... | ||
| What? | ||
| 66, she's 68. They're the same. | ||
| They're the same. | ||
| They could dyke out. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| They're exactly the same. | ||
| They could dyke out. | ||
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How dare you? | |
| He's got a dick. | ||
| He'll scare the shit out of her. | ||
| That's a dyke session you don't want him to show up at. | ||
| You know, you shitlord. | ||
| He's a shitlord. | ||
| Well, but look, there is something also like that. | ||
| I'm not like a psychoanalyst. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| But are we just going to just because of like this political pressure, throw out the possibility that it it seems to say that maybe you have some issues that you want to self mutilate yourself like this? | ||
| I mean, like that. | ||
| This is healthy behavior? | ||
| Whatever happened to loving yourself? | ||
| Whatever happened to loving yourself as who you are? | ||
| Why did that get distorted? | ||
| How come surgery now is the viable alternative? | ||
| How come injecting non-endogenous hormones, exogenous hormones, female hormones into a male body? | ||
| How come you have to say that that's a girl? | ||
| Why is gender such an important point to you? | ||
| What is it about this that's so important to you? | ||
| Yeah, and to deny that gender and sex are like biologically relevant, you know, categories. | ||
| That it's not just something randomly assigned at birth. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, okay, for one out of a hundred thousand babies, maybe it's something that's assigned at birth. | ||
| I know people always bring up that example where some babies are born. | ||
| Well, I don't know what the number is, but there's got to be a lot of people where they feel like they're trapped in the body that they don't want to be in, and that's cool. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm cool with sex changes. | ||
| I'm cool with everything. | ||
| I'm not trying to restrict people's behavior. | ||
| But there's something really weird. | ||
| I guess it's like an overreaction to people. | ||
| I think, in a way, it's probably a good thing. | ||
| It's people trying to be more sensitive, trying to be more open-minded, trying to be more accepting. | ||
| And that'll probably balance out. | ||
| Like, we go way out to the left, and then we'll come back more into the middle, and everything will kind of balance it out. | ||
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Right. | |
| And you'll see the difference between people that... | ||
| Are people that are just like happier being a woman and then people that are out of their fucking mind. | ||
| Like there was a Radiolab show about a guy who goes back and forth. | ||
| Like he's a woman and then he's a man. | ||
| He's a woman and he's a man. | ||
| I just switched. | ||
| He's like, I just switched over. | ||
| Now I'm Gail. | ||
| Like he becomes a woman. | ||
| Like, wait, you're just a woman now? | ||
| Like you were just a man. | ||
| Now who am I talking to now? | ||
| Now Mike. | ||
| Mike's back. | ||
| Something's got it. | ||
| You're fucking crazy! | ||
| You're a fucking crazy person! | ||
| Like, if that's not weird, is anything weird? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| But then people go, well, what is crazy? | ||
| What's crazy? | ||
| I agree with what you're saying, that there is almost, I feel like, the general... | ||
| Like, there's a large group of people who are just trying to kind of not be dicks. | ||
| Like, you're saying, like, oh, we're just trying to not be dicks to people, so they'll be... | ||
| But I feel like the people leading the charge are, like, trying to kind of wag their finger at someone. | ||
| Like, they're trying to go, like, no, see, you're not tolerant. | ||
| I'm tolerant, but you're not. | ||
| It's virtue signaling. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's what Michael Shermer calls it. | ||
| He's like, you're trying to show yourself as to be more virtuous than the other people, so you attack them for having a lack of a strong stance in these things that you have a strong stance in. | ||
| And even when this strong stance is really debatable, like this whole subject. | ||
| And I love the fact that these guys kept getting busted after they passed these laws, allowing transgender women to use the women's room. | ||
| These creepy men were calling themselves transgender and going into the women's room. | ||
| That's exactly what you knew was gonna happen. | ||
| You knew it was gonna happen, right? | ||
| Like, look, if you really want people to use a third bathroom, here's what you do. | ||
| Get the people that support that to fund it. | ||
| Get them to fund it across the board. | ||
| Everybody else, fuck off. | ||
| Like, how many people are we talking about here, man? | ||
| That we need a third bathroom? | ||
| But that's why I hate the whole system of taxation and government and all this shit, because right there, that can be applied to so many different things. | ||
| Like, even if it's something like Planned Parenthood or something like that, like, I'm... | ||
| I think it's a very complicated issue, but I'd probably lean on the pro-choice side. | ||
| But it's like, you're going to force someone who believes abortion is murder to fund a place that commits... | ||
| What they see as murder? | ||
| Why don't you liberals just get together and fund it yourself? | ||
| Like, why do you have to force all these other people to fund something that you deem to be a value that they don't? | ||
| Right. | ||
| For sure, that's debatable whether or not taxes should fund something like that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't even... | ||
| Truthfully, I mean, I don't think it's debatable. | ||
| I think it shouldn't. | ||
| I think they shouldn't. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But I also think that if you believe in it, like you said, you should fund it. | ||
| And it should be something that the community funds. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, look, as far as... | ||
| Planet Parenthood doesn't just provide abortions. | ||
| They also provide gynecological care. | ||
| They provide birth control. | ||
| There's, like, some really important parts of that. | ||
| It just gets lumped. | ||
| They should have, like, abortions are us. | ||
| And then just, like, straight away, there's no birth control here. | ||
| Our birth control is a vacuum. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's all we have. | ||
| I mean, that's probably that would clear up this. | ||
| And then you'd say, well, maybe Planned Parenthood would be a different entity. | ||
| It'd be birth control, things along those lines. | ||
| Well, that, as a responsible society, it might be a good idea to invest a certain amount of money in reproductive health care. | ||
| That sounds smart. | ||
| And this is another thing that technology might solve real quick. | ||
| I mean, once we can kind of create womb-like conditions outside the womb, it might greatly cut down on the number of abortions that are needed. | ||
| Yeah, that's going to be real weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's going to be real weird when they decide that the body... | ||
| Like, women can be far more productive if their baby is born outside of the body. | ||
| Yeah, but there'll always be, like, a natural movement, right? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| There'll always be, like, people who are like, well, no, no, no, I don't want to do it that way. | ||
| Because even now, there's people who have natural childbirths and stuff, you know, at least. | ||
| People like raw wood, like this table, and they like handcrafted drinks. | ||
| They like that word. | ||
| My drinks are handcrafted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to have a handcrafted hot dog. | ||
| And even just enjoying nature. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like the fact that we like to go out into nature, like we're so far removed with all this technology, but we still want to like, well, I want to like, I want to sit in the place where I would have died from an infection at 12. I don't want to like live there, but I want to like sit there for a little and then go inside. | ||
| I want to lay motionless where the predators used to roam. | ||
| It is fucking really weird that we call it the outdoors. | ||
| Like, I like the outdoors. | ||
| No, you mean the earth. | ||
| You like the actual earth. | ||
| We're just hiding indoors. | ||
| We're so fucking into being in these structures that that's our standard place to be. | ||
| The outdoors is rare. | ||
| I like the great outdoors. | ||
| Like, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| How can you... | ||
| Like, we're defining ourselves by the inside of the structure, primarily. | ||
| It's all outdoors, man. | ||
| We're all on this fucking... | ||
| I love that bit you were doing the other night. | ||
| I don't want to give out if it's new stuff you're working on, but that thing about paranoia of pot being good for you. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, yeah, we should all be paranoid. | ||
| I mean, look around. | ||
| Yeah, there's some reality to our life on a spinning ball that is regularly ignored. | ||
| But really fucking crazy when you stop and think about this, the reality that we're in a convertible spaceship. | ||
| And, you know, we don't talk about that, but we talk about all sorts of goofy shit. | ||
| We're literally spinning a thousand miles an hour in a circle, hurling through infinity. | ||
| And the more we find out, the weirder it gets. | ||
| The weirder it gets. | ||
| Like the more, you know, we think we know something, and we're like, okay, this is what a black hole is, and then we figure something out, and we go, okay, it's nothing like that. | ||
| It's, uh... | ||
| No. | ||
| And people get mad at Neil deGrasse Tyson because he won't say he's an atheist. | ||
| I think that's another hilarious aspect of atheism, is how tribal atheism is. | ||
| I've been watching this forum where these people are fucking hurling the most disgusting and evil insults at Neil deGrasse Tyson simply because he won't say he's an atheist. | ||
| He's open-minded. | ||
| And Neil's like a scientist. | ||
| He's like, look, I'm not a religious person, but I'm not going to say there's no God. | ||
| Well, why not? | ||
| Why wouldn't he not? | ||
| There's no fucking evidence that there's no God. | ||
| There's no evidence that there is a God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what an agnostic is. | ||
| That's why I like identifying as agnostic. | ||
| Because there's like this atheist has almost like built up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're almost, it's like so dogmatic and religious in their beliefs. | ||
| Like you have to believe in this. | ||
| There is nothing. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Nothing happens after death. | ||
| You don't want to admit that there's nothing, Dave. | ||
| You have a problem admitting that there's nothing. | ||
| It's like maybe, I don't know. | ||
| There's not nothing. | ||
| Do mushrooms and tell me there's nothing. | ||
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| Honestly. | ||
| And that same person will completely agree with you when they're on mushrooms. | ||
| Then maybe when they wear off, they'll go like, eh, it was just the mushrooms. | ||
| The ego will come back. | ||
| It's a hallucination. | ||
| The visual cortex is being affected by 5-4-4-oxy-N-N-dimethyltryptamine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I remember arguing with a hardcore atheist about this. | ||
| And they were like, dude, that shit that goes on when you're on mushrooms, it's just a chemical reaction. | ||
| You're like, yes, it is. | ||
| So is every experience you've ever had in your life. | ||
| It's just a chemical reaction. | ||
| The whole life is a chemical reaction. | ||
| Without the proper chemicals, your brain goes crazy, you get hallucinations. | ||
| It's like, yeah, you get depressed, you get suicidal, or you get euphoric. | ||
| What do you think MDMA is? | ||
| It's a chemical reaction, but it's one that your brain already has. | ||
| It's already in there. | ||
| That's why it works. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And you're finding a way to kind of trigger, to use their word, to trigger that reaction that just gets you into, it's weird, it gets you into something that you already knew. | ||
| It's not even like new information. | ||
| It's just like, it's something you already knew that you work very hard to forget. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're so weird. | ||
| People are so weird. | ||
| But it's cool. | ||
| It's cool that it's weird, because like Alan Watts is saying, it makes it all fun. | ||
| It makes this game entirely exciting. | ||
| I'm fucking super pumped that this relation's full of bullshit. | ||
| That this election and this way we're interacting with each other is all chaos. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I enjoy it. | ||
| I would find it... | ||
| If you look at Trump and Bernie Sanders, I don't love either of them. | ||
| I have problems with everybody. | ||
| I think Hillary's the worst of the worst, but I have problems with all of them. | ||
| But... | ||
| It would be so much more depressing to me if just, like, Hillary and Jeb Bush had just waltzed to the nominations. | ||
| Like, if the general sentiment of the public was like, we're happy, we're cool with the establishment. | ||
| I love that people have had it. | ||
| I think it's a sign of the times. | ||
| And I think the internet is also a big part of that. | ||
| I think people are just so much better informed than at any other time in the past. | ||
| Oh, well, for us, I mean, for the libertarian movement... | ||
| We wouldn't exist without the internet. | ||
| So you clearly identify with a movement, like libertarians. | ||
| Is there anything about being a libertarian that you don't like, where libertarians are into? | ||
| Other libertarians? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, there's personal things about different groups, and then there's some groups of libertarians that I... Genuinely don't identify with at all. | ||
| Like, there's some kind of, like, Republicans who will just kind of call themselves Libertarians but are okay with, like, fighting wars and stuff like that, so I don't like that. | ||
| Libertarians can be kind of a weird group if you get together. | ||
| But isn't it just weird to be in a group? | ||
| I mean, aren't groups weird? | ||
| But that's why I don't, you know, I wouldn't be comfortable almost identifying with any other group. | ||
| To me, libertarianism or voluntarism is really just, it's like accepting of a principle that is, like I said before, like you shouldn't initiate violence against peaceful people. | ||
| So I just, I'm okay with accepting that as like a fundamental truth. | ||
| To me, it's more on line with being like an abolitionist during slavery times. | ||
| It's just like, we shouldn't have slavery. | ||
| What you do with yourself, I don't know. | ||
| I'm not going to jump into a team of what job you should have. | ||
| But you shouldn't be forced to pick cotton. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| I mean, all the political ideologies, all the political distinctions, that's the one that makes the most sense to me. | ||
| I don't call myself a libertarian. | ||
| I feel like the whole... | ||
| The whole idea of representative government is so fucking goofy. | ||
| I just think that any political party that doesn't address that, it's like we're spinning our wheels if we're really allowing this whole stupid thing to go on the way it's gone on for so long. | ||
| It was created back when it was really impossible to communicate with people. | ||
| So you had to have a representative. | ||
| Like, now it's really easy to communicate with people, but we have the same system of government that we had back when people used to write with feathers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's fucking stupid. | ||
| The idea of having a ruler. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| And our robot overlords, they're gonna fix it. | ||
| They will liberate us. | ||
| They will rise. | ||
| They will fix it. | ||
| I'm really hoping they're libertarian robot overlords. | ||
| Jamie, before we wrap this up, you were trying to show me something else. | ||
| Is there something else that was going on? | ||
| There's no other story? | ||
| Just the Kimball Slice thing didn't... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Dave, this was fun. | ||
| I really enjoyed this. | ||
| We gotta do this more often. | ||
| When are you back in town? | ||
| And when can people come see your stand-up? | ||
| And where can they find out about you? | ||
| Well, you can follow me on Twitter at Comic Dave Smith. | ||
| And I do a podcast called Part of the Problem, which is all about this political stuff and libertarianism. | ||
| And then I do another podcast called Legion of Skanks, which is a comedy podcast with myself, Louis J. Gomez, and Big J. Oakerson. | ||
| We're actually having a festival. | ||
| We're having Skank Fest. | ||
| It's in New York City. | ||
| It's on June 18th and 19th. | ||
| We got some really fun guests for this one, dude. | ||
| I like the name. | ||
| Skank Fest is awesome. | ||
| Well, dude, it's going to be a yearly thing. | ||
| Let me tell you who we got coming for this. | ||
| We got Stanhope. | ||
| Doug Stanhope will be there. | ||
| Ari will be on it. | ||
| Bobby Kelly. | ||
| Brian Redband is doing like a Death Squad show of... | ||
| Me, Lewis, and Big J. And I think some other really good ones too that I'm blanking out on. | ||
| Michael Che is going to be there. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Very fun. | ||
| Follow me on Twitter at ComicDaveSmith. | ||
| Alright, you fucks. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Thank you, Dave. | ||
| That was awesome. | ||
| Really enjoyed it. | ||
| Do this much more often. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Whenever you're in town. | ||
| Alright, goodnight everybody. | ||
| See you tomorrow. |
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