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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - November 28, 2015
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brendan schaub
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eddie bravo
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joe rogan
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joe rogan
Two, one, yee-haw!
And we're live, ladies and gentlemen.
This is a Fight Companion podcast.
What that means is, if you've tuned in, hoping to hear enlightening conversation, or facts about the universe, or ancient civilizations...
unidentified
Run.
joe rogan
You come to the wrong place, bitches.
This is a bunch of people that shouldn't be awake, but are awake.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
It's 5 a.m.
I'm with AJ Bra, a.k.a.
Eddie Bravo.
Holla!
brendan schaub
Yo, yo.
joe rogan
Killer B, Ben Saunders, is up in this bitch.
unidentified
What's happening?
joe rogan
And then, of course, Brendan motherfucking Sharp.
A.K.A. Big Brown.
A.K.A. Big Brown Sexy.
And we're here watching the UFC live from North Korea.
And the first fight's about to happen, Sam Cecilia versus Do-Ho Choi.
I think it's Che.
I think they pronounce it Che.
But, uh, so if you've never heard these podcasts before, what we do is we get together and we just watch the fights and we talk shit.
And we do a lot of the MMA world's journalism for them.
Because a lot of them, they rely on us for stories.
brendan schaub
What if those bitches are up?
What if those bitches are up?
joe rogan
They're up right now.
brendan schaub
They're just waiting right now.
joe rogan
Greasy pencils in their hands.
unidentified
So tired.
brendan schaub
Cheeto fingers just fucking...
joe rogan
One day when I'm tired of traveling, this is what we're gonna do.
eddie bravo
This was fucking tough, dude.
joe rogan
That was a hard one.
brendan schaub
So, I have a long-ass day.
I gotta go to San Diego and teach a seminar, and then after that seminar, I got a friend of mine asked me to be in a music video, so I'm doing that too.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
eddie bravo
So it's gonna be a hard one.
brendan schaub
Video vixen.
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Like the chick from Whitesnake.
unidentified
Video vixen.
eddie bravo
Like the chick from Whitesnake.
So last night I decided, you know, the only way I'm gonna be able to pull this off is if I go to sleep like at 8. And I go, how the fuck am I gonna go to sleep at 8?
I had a couple Ambien's, so I took one Ambien, and I took it like around 6.30, and I'm like feeling kind of loopy, and then he calls me and goes, hey dude, do you have another Ambien?
I'm not gonna be able to sleep.
I'm like, fuck, you're gonna have to drive over to my house.
So Ben comes over.
Ben comes over.
By the time he comes over, I'm fucking out.
He's knocking on the door.
joe rogan
He's texting me and says, I'm cold.
brendan schaub
It's cold out here.
unidentified
It's cold out here.
eddie bravo
So I wake up two hours later.
I look at the text.
He's long gone.
brendan schaub
He's like, I'm cold.
eddie bravo
It's freezing out here, bro.
You must be out.
So I call him back.
I'm like, fuck, dude, I'm sorry.
brendan schaub
That ambient just crushed me.
eddie bravo
So then he came back.
Did you actually come back?
I left it in my mailbox.
But from that point on, I couldn't go back to sleep.
I'm just sitting there, and then I got really, really medicated.
brendan schaub
And then that was weird, being all loopy on Ambien and then stoned at the same time.
eddie bravo
Dude, I was breaking down some shit from when I was 15. I was bringing back memories that I never thought.
I'm like, holy...
I was up all goddamn night.
I didn't really get any sleep.
I don't know how I'm going to do this.
I really don't.
joe rogan
Just hang in there, baby.
You'll be fine.
brendan schaub
You'll figure it out.
unidentified
It's cold.
eddie bravo
How long did you wait out there?
joe rogan
Hey, do you know what new vigil is?
Not too long, man.
unidentified
I knew you were out.
joe rogan
Do you know what new vigil is, Eddie?
New Vigil?
You ever heard of New Vigil?
brendan schaub
Nuh-uh.
joe rogan
Some shit that fighter pilots take.
It's something that...
I think the official use for it is for people that have narcolepsy, but it's like a pill that helps you stay awake when you're really tired, but it's not like speed.
It's real weird.
brendan schaub
It's a notch under speed?
Yeah.
joe rogan
But yeah, we'll talk about it.
eddie bravo
Well, I get some of that.
joe rogan
I know a dude.
I know a guy.
eddie bravo
It's going to be a hard fuck.
I got to drive two hours after this.
joe rogan
Homie, you're going to be fine.
Plus, we got plenty of these.
These caveman coffees, one of these little fuckers, has 240 milligrams of caffeine.
brendan schaub
That's basically what I just drank, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, no, that's just coffee.
That's pretty strong.
eddie bravo
This thing came in?
joe rogan
It is, but it's not one of these nitro things.
It's little nitro things.
unidentified
That's like a super espresso shot.
joe rogan
It's like a double espresso or a triple espresso with some fucking nitrogen.
I don't know.
Tate tried to explain to me how to do it.
brendan schaub
It tastes like the Guinness of coffee, right?
eddie bravo
I love it.
brendan schaub
There's like a foam on it.
unidentified
I love that shit, too.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
There's a whole box of it.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
I love them.
I love these nitros, but they're fucking super strong, like they're rocket fuel.
240 is like a venti Starbucks, and it's all in this one little can.
brendan schaub
How much is in a Rockstar, like one of those regular-sized cans?
joe rogan
That's a good question, because they break those bitches up in servings.
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
It says, do not consume all in one day and shit.
Dude, you ever drink one of those red lines?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Dude, I drank one of those red lines, I swear I was gonna have a heart attack.
My heart was like a hummingbird, man.
I'll never do it again.
joe rogan
Here we go, Sam Cecilia.
Sam Cecilia hits hard.
That dude, he's an interesting character.
He's super game, Sam Cecilia.
Oh, he got tagged.
brendan schaub
He said footwork.
Nah.
joe rogan
He got tagged.
brendan schaub
Look at that.
joe rogan
Good butterfly.
brendan schaub
Footwork's for the birds.
Did you think everybody up with this?
joe rogan
No, I haven't.
Thank you, Eddie.
Four minutes and 28 seconds right now of the first round.
I think, like I said, it's spelled Choi, but I think it's Chick.
Oh, shit!
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Sam Cecilia brings the thunder, man.
That dude's fun.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, this is fun.
joe rogan
Oh, snap.
Oh, man.
Uppercuts.
He fights like with his hands way low.
brendan schaub
Way low.
joe rogan
Eddie, you can just pass that joint around.
I'm not mad if you should do that.
Eddie's sitting there like he's smoking.
brendan schaub
Like a cigar.
unidentified
In a cafe.
joe rogan
In a cafe somewhere.
unidentified
I told him The petty that you know is not the petty of today Who's a lot?
Oh?
Oh shit.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you.
joe rogan
Oh snap this way brown you want some of this?
brendan schaub
I'm good, man.
Things could get weird.
I smoked that.
joe rogan
Weird?
brendan schaub
You want headlines.
Let me smoke that and release the hounds.
Let me smoke that and release the hounds.
joe rogan
We haven't talked publicly since the Ronda fight.
brendan schaub
No, we haven't.
unidentified
Sam's out!
He's out!
joe rogan
Oh, damn it.
brendan schaub
Enjoy that fight back to the States.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he got cracked.
brendan schaub
Fuck, that was a crunk fight.
joe rogan
It was wild for the first round.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at that guy's turtleneck in Korea.
joe rogan
Damn.
unidentified
Those people are super psyched.
joe rogan
A Korean guy won.
brendan schaub
The Korean knocked the fuck out of Sicilia.
joe rogan
No, they like it.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
It's not racist.
eddie bravo
It's okay to be racist like at sporting events, right?
joe rogan
No, it's not okay to be racist, but you can be proud to be from a country.
brendan schaub
Exactly.
You can hate the other guy since he's not from your country.
joe rogan
That was when...
I forget who it was, but when...
unidentified
What the fuck is his name?
joe rogan
God damn it.
Mike Pye was fighting.
I'm trying to remember his name.
He fought this cat in Brazil.
And Funch?
I think it was Funch.
And he knocked him out.
And it was just a straight, clean victory.
Everything was good.
No poor sportsmanship.
Everything was great.
Said nice things in the post-fight interview.
But all they're doing is chanting something.
The whole crowd's chanting something.
I can't figure out what they're chanting.
So I asked the translator.
And he says they're basically chanting the Brazilian version of You're a Faggot.
brendan schaub
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
The whole crowd.
The whole crowd.
Like 15,000 people.
brendan schaub
Dude, Brazil doesn't fuck around.
When I fought Nogueira, the whole crowd was chanting one thing.
I was the same thing.
They chanted one thing.
I was like, damn, I'm gonna fucking hit out here, man.
unidentified
I turned around to my coach, who speaks Portuguese.
brendan schaub
I go, what are they saying?
He's like, you really want to know?
I'm like, fuck yeah.
He goes, they're chanting, you're gonna die.
unidentified
I was like, God, dog, that's intense.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's their thing, Vumamoria.
brendan schaub
Yeah, let's relax on that.
Imagine if the American crowds were chanting that.
joe rogan
That guy looks like a StarCraft champion.
He looks like a dude who would, you know, beat your ass at some new video game.
He doesn't look like a guy who would fuck Sam Cecilia by knockout.
brendan schaub
He looks like he's just a beast with the Rubik's Cube or some shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I like when dudes are unassuming like that, but are murderers.
brendan schaub
I agree.
Hi, hello.
Kenny's the type of dude you would fuck with in a bar, right?
He's small, huge head.
joe rogan
Sexy beard, nice watch.
brendan schaub
What the fuck are you with your watch?
Kenny's been through some shit.
joe rogan
Your fucking watch and your nice tie.
brendan schaub
Asshole.
unidentified
Who's this asshole face?
Fuck you up, man.
joe rogan
I know, he's like the most unassuming ass kicker.
brendan schaub
He looks like an accountant, but he will jack your world up, man.
joe rogan
You would just realize, like, really early on what a mistake it was.
brendan schaub
Still in that jab?
In a bar?
eddie bravo
Still in that jab?
You're like, oh shit, this guy does jiu-jitsu.
Fuck!
I had a buddy of mine who worked, he was a bouncer at a strip club, and he was a purple belt under hoist.
This was back in the late 90s.
And he was a dickhead.
And he would go out and start fights, and he would go out with knee pads on, and ties, and he would work with ties that were Velcro.
You could just pull them off, and he's ready to go.
unidentified
He's ready to rock.
brendan schaub
He's a psycho.
Yeah, he is.
He's a psycho, and he fucked people up really easy.
eddie bravo
I've seen him fuck people up at the strip club like, just like in Gracie in action, take the dude down, pass his guard easily, mount him, he gives his back, chokes him out, and he walked up, he did that to some guy right in front of me and said, that's all you got?
And then he stands up and goes, nice fight, asshole.
He was all mad.
brendan schaub
It was too easy.
That's his amateur record, man.
eddie bravo
But he had some road rage and he flipped some dude off and dude flipped him off and he pulled over and he fought some guy and he said it went on for like 20 minutes.
He goes, man, the dude knew jujitsu.
It was fucking hard.
He goes, I think he won.
unidentified
He finally got the guy who did a little jiu-jitsu and lost.
joe rogan
A 20-minute street fight on the side of the road.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
Just a back-and-forth barn burner on the road.
joe rogan
Nobody pulled out a knife.
No mace.
eddie bravo
Never just all clenched up, probably, you know, on the ground, in the dirt, just clenched up.
joe rogan
Probably.
eddie bravo
This guy knows how to fight.
This guy should lose a blue belt.
joe rogan
You start talking to him at that point.
Come on, bitch, where you training?
brendan schaub
I agree, yeah.
unidentified
Exactly!
joe rogan
If you get to a good spot...
You know Renato?
eddie bravo
You know Renato Magno?
unidentified
Everybody knows Renato Magno.
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is his sport?
What is the name of the place?
eddie bravo
Street Sports in Santa Monica.
Renato Magno.
unidentified
Old school.
joe rogan
He's calling out to all his friends in the Starcraft clan.
unidentified
We still meet for a LAN party.
Dude.
eddie bravo
You think he's had eye surgery?
brendan schaub
Why?
joe rogan
Oh, you mean that thing with your eyes that some Asians do?
brendan schaub
Yeah, they try to get Americanized, right?
They try to make it rounder?
eddie bravo
It's so normal there.
joe rogan
Oh, it's super normal.
unidentified
It's weird.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Is that Starcraft Champion you put up, Jamie?
brendan schaub
It's like chicks with fake titties.
It's like having your period.
joe rogan
Look what Jamie put up on the big screen.
On the little screen over the left.
unidentified
That's like the best video game play in the world or some shit?
Starcraft Champion.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the StarCraft champion.
Look at Korean Zombie.
I forgot about him.
brendan schaub
He's out for two years.
joe rogan
Mandatory military service.
They don't fuck around, man.
eddie bravo
It's almost over though, right?
joe rogan
I think so.
You know, that's an interesting thing.
eddie bravo
He's not in the military right there.
joe rogan
Yeah, he is.
He's got his suit on.
Military suit.
eddie bravo
Oh, he does?
joe rogan
Okay.
eddie bravo
He was rolling with Ben Henderson.
joe rogan
No, I'm sure he's still training.
No, I didn't see it.
eddie bravo
It's a viral role.
Ben Henderson and the Korean zombie role.
unidentified
When was this?
joe rogan
How long ago?
eddie bravo
A couple days ago.
It's all over the net.
joe rogan
So is he out here?
eddie bravo
The Korean zombie puts Ben Henderson in a twister, but he escapes.
And then Ben Henderson comes back and meat hooks the shit and rubber guards the shit out of him.
brendan schaub
Sick.
And puts him in an omoplata.
Sick.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
unidentified
How's this guy?
joe rogan
Alberto Mina?
How's this guy?
brendan schaub
11-0, undefeated.
Nasty-ass mustache, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a beautiful mustache.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at it.
joe rogan
Where have I seen him fight before?
Trying to figure out who he fought.
brendan schaub
Do Korean zombies walk out when he comes out to Cranberry?
Oh, here it is.
There it is up on the screen.
Korean zombie.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There it is.
joe rogan
And where were you guys?
eddie bravo
Damn, Jamie's on fire.
Look at their videotaping this role like it's some serious shit.
brendan schaub
There's a bunch of people there.
Right?
eddie bravo
Look at that.
That's like Abu Dhabi.
You're going to put cameras on there?
You can't just roll light.
It's real shit.
unidentified
No, they kind of did because he kind of like gave them a triangle.
eddie bravo
I don't think this isn't the role I saw.
unidentified
Or it's a different angle.
eddie bravo
No, they didn't have gloves.
brendan schaub
This wasn't the role.
They're just messing around here.
Yeah, yeah.
eddie bravo
This ain't the one.
Jamie.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's some bullshit.
unidentified
So they're just sort of slapping at each other.
brendan schaub
Just a nice sweat for Ben before fight week, huh?
Oh, if you were Ronda's head coach, how would you have her train for the rematch?
eddie bravo
What would you do?
brendan schaub
She was going to listen to you.
eddie bravo
It was all in your hands.
What would you tell her?
This is what you got to do.
unidentified
I thought we were talking about Asian people get their eyes white.
joe rogan
You guys are talking about Rhonda.
This bitch out of nowhere comes with the interview question.
The hard interview question.
eddie bravo
I'll tell you how I train her.
joe rogan
Hey, you know, you used to date this girl.
She's, you know, whatever.
The biggest superstar athlete, whatever, whatever.
How would you train her, bro?
unidentified
What would you do, bro?
brendan schaub
What would you do?
I'll tell you what's interesting is people think it's that easy.
We can just go find another striking coach and everything is great.
eddie bravo
No, no, no, no.
brendan schaub
It doesn't work like that.
eddie bravo
No, of course not.
But what would you do?
You have six months.
What would you do?
brendan schaub
Six months?
eddie bravo
What would the strategy be and what would the training be like?
brendan schaub
Well, listen, man, six months, you need to cut out all the drama in your life, probably find a new coach, and just focus on what you do.
Because she's never going to outstrike Holly.
That's never happening in this world, ever.
Even if you gave her two years.
So do what you do.
You don't need to reinvent the wheel, but your best chance of winning is by grappling.
So you're not going to invest your whole time trying to compete with a world-class striker.
eddie bravo
So what would you do?
You'd hook her up with the wrestling coach, right?
All the commercials, you see a Ronda, no more Focus Mint commercials with all that shit.
It should just be wrestling and double-A commercials, right?
That's all she's working on.
brendan schaub
That's where the UFC and her camp fucked up.
Everyone kept calling her Mike Tyson.
She had a strike of Mike Tyson.
I guess, man.
I guess.
So she has this...
joe rogan
You can't say, like, striking Mike Tyson.
She had that Mike Tyson aura because she kept beating girls.
unidentified
I agree.
brendan schaub
I agree.
But everyone was so sold on a strike, including me.
joe rogan
I thought she looked real good against Betch Coheia, but Betch Coheia is more of a brawler style.
And when Ronda comes super aggressive like that, that'll work on a lot of girls.
It'll fold under that pressure.
brendan schaub
All of them.
joe rogan
It's worked on all of them.
eddie bravo
She's the only one who's had real, legit footwork.
And the way the fight started, when Ron is there, they're looking at each other, and Holly just kept skipping to the left, skipping to the right, skipping to the left, skipping to the right.
No one's ever done that to her.
She was doing, look at my footwork.
I'm just going to be dancing.
brendan schaub
Did you watch?
eddie bravo
Did you notice that?
joe rogan
She did that from the moment she entered the octagon.
brendan schaub
She's done that before, though.
Yeah, she's done that before.
If you watch Holly's previous fights, especially her boxing fights or championship fights...
eddie bravo
I'm not saying she didn't do it before, but how fucking crazy did that look?
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, if you do your research on Holly, which, you know, I'm a victim of it, too.
I was like, yeah, I thought Ronda was going to win.
eddie bravo
Didn't I say on this podcast, I go, dude, Ronda didn't...
I don't know what I said word for word, but I did say that...
brendan schaub
No, I didn't predict shit.
No, no one did.
No one fucking did.
joe rogan
Ambient.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, what's hilarious is how many people are talking shit now.
brendan schaub
I know!
joe rogan
They're so mean about it, but like, you didn't see this coming.
brendan schaub
Why are you pretending you saw this coming?
Way to go, Shob.
Good call on that one.
eddie bravo
Oh, my bad!
brendan schaub
I didn't call the fucking huge upset in the UFC. My bad.
Yeah, dude, the amount of fucking memes.
eddie bravo
Oh my god.
She broke the internet.
joe rogan
She asked for it, though.
She's only been doing MMA for four years.
Like, a little more than four years.
brendan schaub
She doesn't have a lot of experience.
joe rogan
Yeah, which is nuts because she's 34. Right, it's true.
eddie bravo
Oh, you were talking about Holly Holm?
joe rogan
You see the amount of fights that she's had, though.
Boxing and kickboxing.
And then you see that footwork and those combos that she landed in that fight.
Man, she had a split decision victory over Raquel Pennington.
unidentified
Yes, man.
joe rogan
It was a real close fight.
And so she goes from that fight to the Marion Renaud fight, which is a really good fight.
She looked good in that fight.
And then this fight, she just looked like a world beater.
brendan schaub
Well, I think just, you know, fights are all about matchups, styles-wise.
And I think if Ronda and Holly fight a hundred times, Holly probably wins at least 95. I just think style-wise, it's a bad matchup.
I don't think so.
eddie bravo
I don't think so.
If she focused, like she did on her striking, keep working the striking.
She's still got, obviously, a lot to work on.
But she's got to really take her wrestling to the highest possible levels.
Her shit's on the ground.
You've got to get the fight to the ground.
You can't make it a kickback.
brendan schaub
Holly's never been taken down.
eddie bravo
Yes, you gotta wrestle, wrestle, and if you can't wrestle, you gotta pull guard.
joe rogan
Holly is strong as fuck, bro.
unidentified
That's one of the things you can see in those 5'8".
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe that's it.
eddie bravo
That's it.
There's only three choices.
You could strike with her.
You could try to take her down.
If those two don't work, because the striking's not going to work, and if the wrestling don't work, all you have left is pulling guard.
brendan schaub
Good luck to get Holly Holm pulling.
eddie bravo
Why?
Is Holly Holm some master at anti-guard pulling?
brendan schaub
She works very hard on grappling.
eddie bravo
No, but what I'm saying is, is she a master at anti-guard pulling?
You said good luck at trying to take down her.
brendan schaub
I said good luck, because is Ronda a master guard puller?
Does Ronda get all her arms from her back?
joe rogan
She would have to figure out how to do it.
brendan schaub
All you gotta, it's super easy.
eddie bravo
You shoot when it's not in your wheelhouse.
joe rogan
It's definitely not.
eddie bravo
Paul Harst does it all the time.
Look at Paul Harst.
It's not that hard.
brendan schaub
That's his thing.
Exactly.
eddie bravo
She's got to make it her thing.
She's got to get the fight to the ground.
If the wrestling ain't going to work, if the judo ain't going to work, what else do you have left?
Stand with her?
That's already not going to work.
unidentified
Smash your end of the cage and win rounds that way.
eddie bravo
There's an art to guard pull it.
When Ryan Hall did it, no one cared.
People expected Ryan Hall to do it.
When Ryan Hall pulled guard and he tapped two dudes out by pulling guard, it happens all the time.
brendan schaub
How's it working for Ryan Hall on the Ultimate Fighter, though?
eddie bravo
He lost his last fight.
brendan schaub
Yes, he did.
eddie bravo
You know what?
What I was really impressed with Ryan Hall is, man, his striking and his footwork.
Pretty damn legit, man.
It's getting better.
If he just keeps going, Ryan Hall could be a serious threat.
His striking's on its way to being pretty damn good.
In my fucking opinion, what do I know?
I did Jeet Kune Do for two and a half years.
joe rogan
But you definitely are right about her needing more options for being able to take guys down.
It's a question of like how long would it take for her to pick up those other options?
Because she's always looking for the same thing.
She's always looking for the clinch.
And up until now, that's all she's had to do.
She clinches with girls and she's just a superior grappler.
She winds up hip tossing them, throwing them on the ground in spectacular fashion, beating their ass and armbarring them.
And that's what she's been doing.
But if you can't do that...
And she didn't have those other options.
eddie bravo
I didn't think she tried enough.
joe rogan
She's not dropping down for doubles.
I mean, does she ever do that stuff?
brendan schaub
No, it's not her thing.
She's got to make it her thing.
Rhonda, she's been doing judo since she was in a diaper.
Her knees aren't great either.
So for her to say, okay, now go freestyle wrestle.
Let me know how that goes.
Go try and fucking freestyle wrestle Holly Holm.
Everyone has all these kind of ideas on what she should do.
It's tough, man.
eddie bravo
Well, what is your idea?
joe rogan
What would you think?
Would you think she has to do what she's always done, but just do it better and more focused?
brendan schaub
Yes, she's got to do what got you to the dance.
I think you take out the negativity in your life.
You get a coach who's going to support you, and you put world-class training around you, and you bring to what got you to the dance.
joe rogan
Like a Farasa hobby type coach, right?
Yes.
Or a Matt Hume, someone along those lines.
brendan schaub
What you do is you come up with someone, obviously not Greg Jackson because that's Holly Hume.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
You know, that's her guy, but you need someone to come up with a game plan where we're going to take your tools that have got you to this point and we're going to try to implement that with Holly Hume.
Absolutely.
eddie bravo
Because right now that's not happening.
brendan schaub
Right now, right now the game plan...
Dash forward and let's try and get her arm.
But you know, fuck, man.
joe rogan
When Dana talked about it, he was like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Like, that's how he was looking at her training.
You know, and I'm like, I get that up until now, but now you look at that fight and you gotta go, okay, well, there's obviously Holly has a way in.
I mean, and Holly has a pretty clear path to victory.
Countering.
If Rhonda keeps going forward like she did in that fight, Holly will keep countering her to the end of time.
brendan schaub
I think what Rhonda needs to do is look around and Anyone, including Dana, that says, no, you're good, just keep doing what you're doing, fuck you, see ya, I need to change this up.
So I'm surrounded by yes men, and everyone thinks everything's all good, everyone that goes, no, she didn't get hurt in the fight, there's no concussion.
The fuck are you talking about?
joe rogan
She got flatlined.
Who said there's no concussion?
eddie bravo
Who said that?
brendan schaub
A lot of people say, no, she's fine.
They go, no injuries.
joe rogan
Oh my god, everyone's so crazy.
brendan schaub
Because I saw her get fucking flatlined.
So anyone who says, no, everything's all good, you don't need to change anything, that should be an indicator for her to go, all right, you're out of the crew.
eddie bravo
I think technically, maybe there's some personal issues and stuff, but technically, she hasn't been striking that long.
So technically, she's at a great spot with her striking.
She lost because of pride and strategy.
That's it.
brendan schaub
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on, hold on.
joe rogan
Why do you say...
eddie bravo
Because she wanted to get up there and throw down.
When she clearly lost round one, she didn't come out thinking, she had no other option.
joe rogan
She was already lit up.
brendan schaub
You also gotta realize, this isn't like a Buster Douglas Mike Tyson, you know what I'm saying?
She just didn't get clipped.
She got outclassed.
It wasn't even close.
It looked amateur to pro.
eddie bravo
But she was down to strike with her.
She got lit up.
She was like, fuck that.
unidentified
I'm sure the game plan was to come forward.
brendan schaub
After she tried taking her down, then it's like, fuck man, I have to stand with this girl.
eddie bravo
That's your only option.
joe rogan
What did you think about the advice that she was getting in her corner?
eddie bravo
She didn't back up.
She went forward.
brendan schaub
It's tough to say.
You're talking about pride.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
A prideful warrior.
eddie bravo
Not in a bad way.
brendan schaub
Maybe even a 10-8 round.
eddie bravo
She got fucked up.
brendan schaub
And your coach goes, you're doing great exactly where we want her.
What are you talking about, man?
eddie bravo
What the fuck are you talking about?
brendan schaub
Again, that's when you're surrounded by yes men.
Someone needs to look at you like, fuck, man.
Alright, listen.
We need footwork.
Control the distance.
Try to get your underhook and go to work.
But what you're doing right now, don't rush in there with your hands down and your jaw wide open.
You're going to get kicked in your face.
joe rogan
Do you think that she was just so dominant that no one around her thought this could ever happen?
Do you think that's a possibility?
brendan schaub
Yes.
I think everyone, including, you know...
A ton of people in her circle thought, there's no way this could ever happen.
She can get away with whatever she wants.
joe rogan
When the first round ended and she looked tired, do you think that that tired is from the beating that she took in that round?
Or is it a combination?
Or is it being out of shape?
Is it having too many distractions?
brendan schaub
No.
The one thing about Rhonda is, she could be filming...
Eight movies and she's gonna come in shape.
That's one thing she can control herself.
She's a monster.
Her work ethic is like no one else's.
So I don't think it's a matter of her being out of shape.
I think for the first time, she's like, oh shit, man.
I got fucked up.
unidentified
And she got hit over and over again.
joe rogan
That's a different feeling.
brendan schaub
Because your adrenaline's pumping, you're getting fucked up, chasing a girl.
joe rogan
So I just don't think she's ever been They isolated in the truck, they isolated this one elbow that she hit Ronda with.
Where Ronda's moving forward, she just steps in and left elbows are on the chin.
It's like, whoa!
brendan schaub
Dude, I can't believe she didn't break her jaw because we see in that first round her mouth wide open, which I've never seen.
And usually that's a broken jaw, but...
joe rogan
Are you sure it's not broken?
Because that was the big rumor that keeps going around.
brendan schaub
I know.
It's a huge rumor.
joe rogan
It's a huge rumor.
brendan schaub
We see her.
I didn't see it, but I hear when she got off the plane from LAX, this paparazzi, she's covering her face.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
We'd seen her face get busted up.
She probably didn't want to talk to those paparazzi.
brendan schaub
It's embarrassing, man.
I get it.
I don't know, man.
eddie bravo
That's tough.
Such a historic event.
I mean, if she would have went right through Holly, that fight would have been fucking forgotten.
That would have been one of those random fights if she would have just went right through her.
Instead, that's a moment in time that will go on forever.
It's like a Buster Douglas moment.
joe rogan
It's also a martial arts lesson.
It's a lesson in martial arts.
It's a lesson in approach.
You take away the personalities and the stardom and the friendship, all the stuff that you have for those people, and you just look at it as two components, two numbers interacting with each other.
Just look at it completely objective.
What you see is...
One strategy that's really effective with one type of movement, like one really refined movement.
brendan schaub
Yes, world-class movement.
joe rogan
Footwork, and then angles, and understanding the technique like super well.
And another, you see this super determined athlete who's been very dominant, but just...
The numbers aren't adding up and as the round goes up she's further and further in a deficit because she keeps getting cracked and then Holly keeps cutting and then your confidence wanes.
It has to.
There's no doubt, right?
There's the frustration.
There's the numbers of times that she's getting hit.
There's a lot of things like factoring in and it all leads up to that Insane head kick.
We see an exhausted but still aggressive Rhonda and when Holly pushes her and then BOOM! Sets up that left high kick.
You're like, that's a martial arts lesson that this can happen.
brendan schaub
Straight up.
joe rogan
This can happen to anybody.
brendan schaub
To anybody, man.
That's why fighting so different than other sports can happen to anyone.
For me, I hate to see it, man.
I like seeing greatness.
You know what I'm saying?
I love seeing greatness.
joe rogan
Well, we saw it.
We saw it in Holly.
That was greatness.
unidentified
This is an opportunity for Rhonda To show what she's made up.
brendan schaub
Again, it's all about matchups.
Holly has some tough fights besides Ronda.
Misha Tate's a hell of a fight for Holly.
joe rogan
So is Kat Zingano.
brendan schaub
Kat Zingano.
These aren't fights where she's just going to dominate, man.
So I think it's good for the sport.
But also, Holly's also a person that you could tell, if you have young daughters, you want them to be like Holly.
Great person.
Amazing person.
Just a nice person.
We can't get her.
The media cannot get her to talk shit about Ronda.
She's just a great person.
joe rogan
Even when Rhonda was screaming in her face at the weigh-ins, and I asked her, she's like, well, I was just trying to have a drink here.
And after Rhonda went crazy on her, she didn't even respond back.
Like, fuck you, bitch.
You're the fucking fake.
brendan schaub
You fucking fake ass bitch.
joe rogan
She didn't.
None of that.
brendan schaub
She's been in world title fights multiple times.
So to her, it was like, all right, let's do it, man.
joe rogan
You know, there's also, like, she had two other fights in the UFC. The first one, which is, like, the octagon shock fight.
I'm always willing to kind of throw out the first fight.
brendan schaub
UFC jitters.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's, like, so many people, it's just such a big moment, and they go, man, next time, I get it now.
I'll just go in there and fight my fight.
And then the second fight was Marion Reneau.
She looked way better.
She looked much better.
But this fight is, like, she must have put in just mad hours and been more focused and more determined for this and just had an incredible camp.
brendan schaub
And had a gameplay.
She's stuck to the plan, man.
joe rogan
That first round, dude, she never stopped moving, never stopped executing her game plan, even took Ronda down.
When she took Ronda down, I was like, what?
unidentified
The other two fights I didn't get to see, but...
Did her opponents stop coming forward or at least stand still or move backwards so they're not really just getting clipped?
eddie bravo
Ronda kept coming forward.
joe rogan
Well, no one came forward like Ronda did.
No one does.
No one does.
Because Ronda comes forward like a demon.
brendan schaub
She comes forward like Vonda de Silva in fucking pride.
eddie bravo
She comes forward so hard that that moment happened where it looked like a matador.
You know what I mean?
That's how hard she was coming.
brendan schaub
That's what made her look ridiculous.
That's what made her look ridiculous.
She's trying so hard and Polly's like, what?
What are we doing?
joe rogan
Holly's just on a completely different level when it came to her stand-up.
And for her to come in in that great of shape and that focused like she was for that fight, you got to see everything she's capable of.
Which I don't think we've ever seen inside the Octagon.
Winkle John was saying that they laid back and that she didn't show everything in her first two fights on purpose.
Yeah, I did hear that.
That's true.
That's crazy.
If she really took it easy on purpose to set up the fight with Ronda and then uncork all of her talent in that one fight.
Nobody's ever done that before.
brendan schaub
I remember being at Jackson's.
Could that be true?
Sure.
It could be.
It could be true.
Because Holly's striking so much better than everyone's.
It could be true.
I remember being at Jackson's and the room stopping to watch Holly spar dudes, other girls, and just murking bitches up.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Just murking girls up, man.
And like I said, it could not happen to a nicer person.
joe rogan
Isn't that interesting, though?
But you knew all that, and yet you still thought that Ronda was going to beat her ass.
brendan schaub
Still, man.
I'm the guy who got honeydicked.
And I'm balls deep in this UFC game.
I would say I have my black belt in the UFC game.
And I was like, oh, no.
I think I said on this or I said on my show, yeah, I think Ronda's going to win.
But if you look back at Holly's fights, like I've been going back at Holly's fights for...
Yeah, man!
No shit!
No shit!
It was just a perfect storm.
joe rogan
Well, those two UFC fights threw everybody off, especially the first one.
Raquel Pennington, by the way, is tough as fuck.
Super tough fighter.
unidentified
And she's also...
joe rogan
She's sneaky.
She's not going to just charge straight at you like that.
She makes it a little bit more difficult.
Then you factor in the nerves.
And again, the Myron Renaud fight, she looked way better.
She definitely looked...
And she got fight of the night for that, I think.
Or...
I think it was one of the performances of the night.
I don't know if it was fight of the night or what, but...
In the Ronda fight, though, it was 100%.
brendan schaub
110%.
I don't think we've ever seen a fighter, male or female, in their prime, this big of a superstar, get outclassed like that ever.
joe rogan
No, we haven't.
brendan schaub
Because we've seen people get caught where you're like, ah, fuck, they'll be back.
We've never seen where like, oh shit, she got dismantled, son.
unidentified
Yeah, from the beginning.
eddie bravo
She's just got to focus on taking her down.
That's it.
No dancing around.
joe rogan
Here's what she also has to focus on.
Just fighting.
I mean, she made a movie.
She's going to make Roadhouse, like a female Roadhouse.
She's got all sorts of other shit going on.
brendan schaub
Imagine the movie in 20 years, bro.
eddie bravo
Imagine the movie.
unidentified
Someone needs to tell her.
brendan schaub
Can you imagine if...
Name anyone else.
Granted, I realize Ronda's leaps and bounds ahead of a lot of the girls, but she's finally met a girl who she's not.
So Holly's not on this track to make all the music.
All Holly wants to be is a world champion of the UFC. Can you imagine if Verdum or Cain Velasquez or Chris Weidman were making movies then trying to defend their belt?
Huh?
You would get fucked up.
eddie bravo
You know what's crazy?
brendan schaub
Can you imagine if Patrick Cote was doing movies?
He'd be like, I'm gonna fuck this dude up.
I used to love seeing that.
When I see my guy doing something on the side, I'm like, dude, he's about to get fucked up.
Because while he's balls deep in this script, I'm training my ass off.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, Sexy Yama looks fucking great.
Sexist guy in the UFC. I didn't know he was fighting on this card.
I mean, you're talking about a dude who's a pride veteran.
His fucking stand-up looks sharp as shit tonight.
brendan schaub
His body's on point.
And that tan.
joe rogan
It's always on point.
brendan schaub
Do you know he sells out arena singing?
joe rogan
Of course he does.
Look at him, he's beautiful.
brendan schaub
Do you know that?
unidentified
Of course.
brendan schaub
He has the voice of an angel?
joe rogan
No, he's not an angel.
brendan schaub
Body of a god?
joe rogan
That's an angel.
brendan schaub
Voice of an angel, body of a god.
eddie bravo
That's pretty crazy.
He's a huge singing star in Japan.
joe rogan
Is he still a huge?
That's crazy.
Yeah, I think it is Korea.
But is he still a huge star over there?
brendan schaub
Bet you're sweet ass he is.
Maybe he's like with an ice.
Maybe he's like with an ice.
No, he's not.
eddie bravo
You don't want to wonder.
joe rogan
Well, Japan's weird like that where they just abandon stuff.
They were really into MMA for a while.
It was huge.
They used to sell at the Saitama Super Arena.
And they're like, oh, not anymore.
unidentified
We're good.
brendan schaub
They just give up on it.
joe rogan
It's not like football in the U.S. will never die.
brendan schaub
Never.
joe rogan
Something would have to be, even with all the concussion info and this new Will Smith movie, people are like, blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever.
brendan schaub
100%.
unidentified
Go Ohio State!
Whatever.
joe rogan
Nobody gives a fuck.
They give up.
unidentified
They give up.
joe rogan
They don't give a fuck.
brendan schaub
Weren't they super into, like, country westerns?
Like, American country westerns and shit?
joe rogan
Like, walk-a-billy type shit, dressing up like Elvis.
brendan schaub
It's so dope.
joe rogan
And then they abandoned it.
unidentified
It's so dope.
joe rogan
They abandoned it.
brendan schaub
Can't you buy, like, old underwear in the vending machines?
joe rogan
Yes, you can.
brendan schaub
See, I've never been over there.
To me, it's a fucking different world.
eddie bravo
in the early 2000s Japanese were really into having afros like big ones yeah it was like cool it was really cool yeah the models and shit have afros that's hilarious That's real.
joe rogan
When you take a white dude or an Asian dude and give him an afro, what is involved in that process?
How many hours do you have to spend trying to work that afro?
brendan schaub
That's not something you're just like, ah, I need an afro.
You put some work in.
unidentified
It's like braids.
eddie bravo
He was a fighter who had an afro.
He fought Rico Rodriguez in pride.
He ended up dying, but I forget his name.
He was a big ass Japanese dude.
joe rogan
Oh, a Japanese guy.
eddie bravo
A Japanese dude.
brendan schaub
With a straight afro?
eddie bravo
With an afro.
He fought in pride.
He fought Rico Rodriguez.
joe rogan
I remember that, dude.
eddie bravo
Like in 2000. It's called a perm, right?
I forget his name.
unidentified
What did he die from?
That's what I was thinking, right?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
How did he die?
eddie bravo
I don't remember, but he's dead.
brendan schaub
And we laugh, dude.
unidentified
Rest in peace.
joe rogan
Look how good fucking Sexyama looks, man.
Is this a middleweight fight or is this a welterweight fight?
unidentified
It has to be welterweight.
eddie bravo
Is he part of a tie or is that a tan like from a booth?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
brendan schaub
That's a gold tan, son.
eddie bravo
He could easily be from Laos.
joe rogan
Yeah, right.
He's one of them chocolate Asians.
eddie bravo
Like one of those dudes Bruce Lee fought in his first movie.
joe rogan
Who's got a better body than Akiyama?
He's got like the best body of all time.
brendan schaub
There's one guy who I might give it to over him and that's Woodley.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Woodley is bodied up, son.
Chocolate.
eddie bravo
Who has the best ass?
joe rogan
Good question.
brendan schaub
Woodley, that's a bubble butt.
unidentified
I know I sound weird here, but Woodley's packing some heat back there.
Right.
brendan schaub
Silence!
As everyone thinks a guy's ass is...
joe rogan
I'm trying to think about it.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, Carwin had a fuckin' honeydew melon back there, too.
Carwin had a fucking ghetto booty.
joe rogan
He had one of them gorilla booties.
Yeah, the zoo, and you see the silverback?
Waddle it around.
His giant ass cheeks.
brendan schaub
Two fucking watermelons.
You put a thong on Carwin, man, you would not know.
He bent over like, God damn, son.
joe rogan
That's a hairy-ass woman.
unidentified
That's a hairy-ass woman.
brendan schaub
Hairy-ass Nicki Minaj.
joe rogan
Did homeboy Sexy Yamaha get kicked in the jewels?
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
unidentified
Front kick?
joe rogan
Boom!
brendan schaub
Oh, he looked like he kicked him in the nuts.
eddie bravo
Nobody kicked anybody in the nuts.
brendan schaub
Double nut kick!
eddie bravo
Yeah, he grazed the helmet.
joe rogan
That's some Sparta shit.
brendan schaub
Ooh, I bet you he is packing heat, son.
joe rogan
Giant dick.
brendan schaub
Just a big old angry fucking Korean dick.
unidentified
Hey, you think you've seen nothing?
brendan schaub
The last samurai cock.
joe rogan
He probably sings when he pulls his dick out.
unidentified
He sings and he's a UFC fighter in Korea.
eddie bravo
Imagine all the Korean pussies getting.
joe rogan
I believe he's married with a family, Eddie Bravo.
How about he just back off?
Look at the build.
brendan schaub
Or he's just doing work.
He's like fucking Godzilla out there.
Probably.
joe rogan
Genghis Khan in the whole country.
brendan schaub
Dicking him down.
joe rogan
Look at the fucking build on this guy.
He must be just lifting weights all the time.
brendan schaub
All the time.
joe rogan
There's no other way.
It's not normal for a fighter to be built like that.
unidentified
Beautiful body.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
I mean, when you're doing wrestling, jiu-jitsu, kickboxing, it's hard to keep up a physique like that.
brendan schaub
100%.
Look at his haircut, too.
eddie bravo
That's got to be natural, right?
brendan schaub
No way he's on Juice, right?
joe rogan
Well, I don't know, man.
brendan schaub
No comment, bro.
joe rogan
The bottom line about Juice is those guys that fought in Pride, they definitely could have then...
unidentified
What weight class was he then?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
I think he was 185. I think he was in Vanderlei's weight class, right?
Oh shit.
brendan schaub
Dude, for people who are like, oh, steroids aren't that big of a deal.
unidentified
Think of Hunt Bigfoot 2. Oh, they're such a big deal.
brendan schaub
Oh my god, it's a fucking big deal.
joe rogan
Such a big deal also when women take them.
You know, I mean, that's even sometimes more of a big deal.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
I was reading this thing about what happens to women bodybuilders.
Oh!
eddie bravo
He's getting clipped.
unidentified
Yeah, he got them in the back of the headers.
joe rogan
He got tagged, but he keeps moving, man.
brendan schaub
Hey, Minya, good luck getting out there alive when you beat up the fucking national icon.
joe rogan
You're gonna fuck up his singing voice, man.
unidentified
Oh, hell no!
joe rogan
Behind the ear.
brendan schaub
How dare you!
Hey, ref!
joe rogan
Oh, he's done.
He's done.
brendan schaub
He has a singing career, you asshole.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
At the end of the round?
Oh my god, he made it out of the round.
brendan schaub
Yes, praise Akiyama.
unidentified
Was that the third round?
joe rogan
No, I don't think so.
unidentified
We don't know.
brendan schaub
Damn, this dude is on.
joe rogan
We're barely paying attention.
brendan schaub
He is fucked up.
Damn.
His body's distracting.
joe rogan
So, I was reading this thing about female bodybuilders and the permanent effects it has on them when they, like...
Can you imagine that girls take male hormones just to get jacked like a dude in their underwear and pose on stage?
Like, you literally change your physiology.
Essentially, you shift way over to the male side.
brendan schaub
There's no coming back, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, no, there's no coming back.
brendan schaub
Cycle of steroids, getting a dude's jaw and, you know, titties.
joe rogan
Everything.
Changes their frame, changes their bone structure.
brendan schaub
But I think if you take female hormones, it takes seven years to get back to where you were.
joe rogan
So you'd have to take like...
brendan schaub
You could change your body in seven years.
joe rogan
You'd have to take like female hormones.
That makes sense because that's how transsexuals do it.
A transsexual man takes female hormones and then becomes more feminine over time.
Seven years now to see the thing if they're saying that I don't know if it's different 21 years you could go back and forth Yeah, but I don't know if it's different with women I don't know if it's different with women to like if it goes women to men or men to women It's the same if it's the same pace, but they're saying that when a man goes to a woman Dr. Ramona Krutz I think her name is Krutzik They interviewed her for...
Steffi Cricklin interviewed her about Fallon Fox.
And one of the things they were saying is when you take estrogen, it actually preserves bone density.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because that's why women, when they get older, they develop osteoporosis.
So this idea that taking the estrogen is automatically going to give you lower bone density, like a...
A woman, oh shit, Akiyama, they're still throwing down.
That's not necessarily the case.
So if you had a woman that took testosterone, got more manly, right, and then started taking estrogen, this doesn't necessarily mean it would shrink her bone structure back down.
It's very tricky.
It's very tricky because there's a cycle to that shit.
There's a lot going on in your body.
They're all interconnected.
That's why when dudes take steroids, they get bitch tits.
Your body's like, hey, fuckface, what's with all this testosterone?
I'm going to give you titties.
brendan schaub
I'm going to counteract it.
Because all the testosterone, then your body goes, oh, we need estrogen to balance this shit out.
joe rogan
Your body's like, you got way too much test, you fucking crazy dick.
brendan schaub
Enjoy these tits.
Enjoy these tits.
joe rogan
Dude, these guys are going off, meanwhile.
Sexyama has survived.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
I'm such a fan of Sexyama.
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
He's looking good in this round, in consideration of the fact that he almost got stopped just two minutes ago.
brendan schaub
Dude, he has a salty-ass UFC record.
joe rogan
Dude, well, he's been around for a long time.
brendan schaub
Bet your ass.
joe rogan
But remember when Vitor lit him up?
unidentified
Oof.
joe rogan
Like a Christmas tree in Times Square.
Fuck.
brendan schaub
Hey, Vitor Anderson Silva, huh, Brazil?
joe rogan
Oh my goodness, what a fight.
brendan schaub
For sure, just let them both juice to the gills.
He can't walk.
unidentified
Well, they both have the same doctor, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right.
brendan schaub
Probably.
I want, like, Martin McGuire, Sammy Sosa shit.
joe rogan
That left leg is jack-ma-fied.
Akiyama with the fucking Muay Thai.
Bang, bang.
brendan schaub
Damn.
What a crazy fight.
Dude, this card's been fucking good.
joe rogan
So did you see that thing that Victor Conte tweeted?
Dude, I literally was like, is this real life?
That thing that I sent you?
Didn't I send it to you?
I said, is this real life?
The thing about Holly Holm?
brendan schaub
Oh, yes!
Dude, get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Eddie, you know what we're talking about?
unidentified
Nah.
brendan schaub
This is ridiculous.
joe rogan
Dr. Conte tweeted this thing where some bodybuilding expert zoomed in on Holly Holmes crotch zoomed in on her bikinis and was like they zoomed in on her where her vagina is and they're trying to say that she has clitoral hypertrophy based on Her moose knuckle?
Yes, exactly Fucking haters.
brendan schaub
They're just fucking haters, man.
eddie bravo
Dude, they're expecting moose knuckles.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
It's so stupid.
Oh shit, Akiyama got the leg card.
brendan schaub
For Victor Conte to tweak that out takes all credibility away from him.
joe rogan
I couldn't believe it.
brendan schaub
I can't trust the guy.
joe rogan
First of all, you don't know what it looked like before.
Like, you're basing this on what?
Just the way it looks?
Like, women's vagina lips are quite different, sir.
brendan schaub
People are just haters, man.
She's world champion now.
Where were you before, you fuck?
unidentified
This is like a weigh-in photo?
joe rogan
Yes, the weigh-in photo of her, so they just zoom in.
Like, weigh in on the box.
eddie bravo
How did they know she wasn't born with those thick, juicy lips?
brendan schaub
Exactly!
They're just trying to hate on her.
eddie bravo
How dare you?
joe rogan
She's the champ.
Some chicks don't talk like that.
brendan schaub
She's the preacher's daughter, you son of a bitch.
joe rogan
It's like, I was watching this, I was like, is this real life?
Did Victor Conte really tweet this?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
You just sent me the link.
I just thought it was some bullshit link.
joe rogan
I think he sent it in an email, too.
I think I got it in an email blast.
I got it in an email blast from him, and I got it in a tweet.
I was like, whoa, really?
brendan schaub
Dude, I don't even entertain that bullshit.
eddie bravo
This fight's crazy.
joe rogan
It's just so silly.
It's so silly to even say something like that.
You know, it's one thing to have someone...
Who believes that?
But it's another thing for a guy like Victor Conte to tweet it.
brendan schaub
Well, he has some credibility, right?
He's known as a snitch on everyone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
What are you doing?
joe rogan
He was one of the guys at Balco.
But he wasn't like a scientist, right?
He was just like a sort of a marketing guy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, a marketing guy behind it, yeah.
unidentified
This is so crazy.
joe rogan
This guy missed the shot.
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Boom.
eddie bravo
He's like, he didn't give me a chance to get up.
brendan schaub
There's a guy in the NFL's name is Landry.
If you've ever seen this fucking guy, you know what I'm talking about, Jamie?
His arms are, he's fucking jacked.
So he's been caught three times for steroids.
joe rogan
I've seen him.
brendan schaub
And this last time, they're like, bro.
So he served a 10-game suspension.
He gets off the suspension.
He knows he's going to be tested again.
Hot, positive for steroids.
Just can't not take him.
He's fucking jacked, man.
joe rogan
See, I was always under the impression that everyone in the NFL was on steroids.
They're so big.
I was like, when you see a 350-pound person like that.
Yeah, look at the picture.
Eddie, look at that picture.
Look at the screen.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
And he's supposed to be fast and quick.
joe rogan
Oh my God, look at his arms.
brendan schaub
They're ridiculous.
He's a fucking monster.
joe rogan
Those arms are retarded.
He's probably one of the biggest guy's arms I've ever seen in professional sports.
brendan schaub
No one's now.
He's on team fucking sit at home.
He's on the same team as I am.
joe rogan
So, a dude like that, right?
He's obviously taking them for football, right?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
He wants to get gigantic for football.
Can you get that big without doing juice?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
And that lean?
I don't think so.
unidentified
No, right?
joe rogan
So when you see all those gigantic fucking dudes that are playing for the NFL, some of them have got to be genetics, right?
brendan schaub
100%.
I've seen some guys who are just complete freaks where people chalk it up to steroids, but it's not.
They're just genetically different than we are.
unidentified
But are they, like, ridiculously ripped and big, or are they like the linemen that are just massive?
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
Like, my best friend, Joe Klopfenstein, he's 6'6", 270, like, 6% body fat.
Just woke up like that.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Just woke the fuck up like that.
I was with him last night, and he just balls deep in donuts.
I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
And then I tried and fucking, yeah, I can't do that, man.
Wow, they're getting fucking into it.
unidentified
Look at that.
brendan schaub
Look at that.
unidentified
Wow.
They're going to make a gif of her.
joe rogan
They get crazy.
Yeah.
unidentified
That'll be on the internet.
For sure.
brendan schaub
Come on, Akiyama.
joe rogan
Look at Sexy Yama.
brendan schaub
Look at Bruce Buffer.
eddie bravo
Who won the first round?
joe rogan
Good question.
We were talking.
eddie bravo
For sure, Akiyama won.
There's no way he's going to lose this.
That just doesn't happen in Asia.
joe rogan
Oh, I think they bring in judges.
eddie bravo
No.
joe rogan
Really?
In Asia, you think?
eddie bravo
That's part of the deal.
joe rogan
Oh, see?
brendan schaub
Fuck.
We got to shove the draw.
eddie bravo
That was a Chinese judge.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
How dare you?
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
He must have won the first round.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, the third round, he looked like dog shit.
eddie bravo
Rounds two and three were both 10-8 rounds, in my opinion.
joe rogan
Do you think both?
brendan schaub
Both, dude.
eddie bravo
Are you kidding?
He barely made it out of that second round.
He was getting his ass fucked up.
joe rogan
Yeah, fucked up.
Is that a 10-9 round?
Oh, I see what you're saying.
So three is a 10-8 for Akiyama, though, right?
eddie bravo
Yes, because he was just fucking out of it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So they both 10-8-ed each other.
They need to give those 10-8 rounds more.
They need to give those out more.
brendan schaub
Sometimes when it's a bully beatdown, someone's getting dropped, it has to be 10-8.
joe rogan
You can't just like, when guys are getting hurt and they're stunned, like Calvin Gaslam, Neil Magny.
You had that point.
I agree with you.
eddie bravo
You got knocked down twice in a round, you gotta give him 10-8.
That's not a regular 10-9 round.
That's a different kind of round.
Dude got clipped twice, dropped twice.
joe rogan
Somebody tried to tell me that the first round...
eddie bravo
How was that a 10-9 round?
joe rogan
Somebody tried to tell me that the first round with Gray Maynard versus Frankie Edgar was a 10-9 round.
brendan schaub
I would slap the fuck out of them.
joe rogan
I go, yeah, this is a fucking professional judge.
We're having an argument about it.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
I go, what are you talking about?
I go, well, that is the epitome of a 10-8 round.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
At least 10-8.
brendan schaub
They should never be able to judge MMA again.
joe rogan
And he goes, well, no, because the fight wasn't close to being stopped.
unidentified
Oh, fuck off.
joe rogan
You shut the fuck up.
That was as close as a fight gets to being stopped.
brendan schaub
That's insane.
joe rogan
The guy was actually literally saying that to me.
And he's a judge.
brendan schaub
What world do you live in?
joe rogan
Oh my god, it was the most frustrating conversation I've ever had with somebody.
brendan schaub
Well, that hat's...
joe rogan
Because I knew that this guy's professional...
unidentified
What is that?
joe rogan
That's a Brazilian...
brendan schaub
That makes me sad.
joe rogan
...a llama wrangler.
unidentified
Out there in the jungle, dodging capybaras and caymans.
Look at him, he's like, my llamas, come home with me.
joe rogan
Da-da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da.
That's gotta be hard, man, when you almost finish the guy in the second round, but then you almost get finished in the third, and you walk away with a victory.
brendan schaub
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Those kind of decisions are weird, because I do go by the idea that, like, I like how Pride did it, where they judged the fight as a whole, but I think the end of the round, the end of the fight's worth more.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is the rationale behind it.
You're watching two kids fight in the school, in the schoolyard, and then it's going back and forth and back and forth, but the end of the fight, one dude gets on top of the other dude in full mount and punches him in the face a bunch of times, and then the teachers pull him off.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Well, damn, Jimmy won.
joe rogan
That dude is on top, dropping bombs on you.
He definitely won.
I don't care if you hit him 30 times before he took you down, and he only landed three punches while you were down.
If he was on top and he was punching you in the face when the teachers came, you won.
brendan schaub
Legit point.
joe rogan
Right?
eddie bravo
Totally.
brendan schaub
Legit point at Virginia Court Elementary.
eddie bravo
If you're going back on what you did in the first or second round, obviously it didn't mean anything because you're getting your ass beat at the end.
He goes, what about that knockdown in the first round?
That didn't mean shit.
Look what's going on right now.
You're getting your ass kicked.
joe rogan
It's going to be hard to judge like that because then people will do like what they do in Thailand where they wait for the betting so they lay back in the first couple of rounds.
You know, you don't want to see people do that.
brendan schaub
But also, like, let's take the Neil Magny vs.
Kelvin fight.
When Neil had his back and was riding him for a long time, had his back for a long-ass time.
You know, how's that?
Because that's a dominant position.
unidentified
It is.
brendan schaub
Now it's a dominant position.
eddie bravo
He wasn't doing any damage.
That's different.
brendan schaub
He was threatening the choke.
eddie bravo
He definitely won the first two rounds.
brendan schaub
I'm not arguing that.
joe rogan
But why isn't it though?
Kinda isn't it?
If a guy is on your back for the whole round and he's trying to get that choke and he gets real close a couple of times, Isn't that kind of like a 10-8?
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
eddie bravo
If he has a choke in and it's close, you're like, oh shit, and it's close, the crowd's going up, and then he escapes?
That was close.
But if he just has someone's back, I'm going to just do that.
brendan schaub
For the entire round?
What is this fucking commercial?
So striking is only 10-8.
joe rogan
Look at this commercial.
Sexy Yama is staring in the mirror.
Look at this commercial.
What the fuck is going on?
brendan schaub
Position is dominated.
joe rogan
What is going on in this commercial?
unidentified
He's a superstar.
eddie bravo
Not if you can't hit him.
joe rogan
But he's like on a massage chair, closing his eyes like he's getting blown.
brendan schaub
Well, that's fucking Asia, my man.
joe rogan
Did you see that?
Look, look, look.
It's him versus him.
brendan schaub
Dude, he is a superstar.
joe rogan
Wait, what is- what are we looking at here?
I'm so confused.
unidentified
And this is Fight Pass, right?
So this is...
joe rogan
a legit commercial?
brendan schaub
Dude, he's a superstar out there.
I'm not mad at that Dory of the Explorer haircut.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's a fucking- an ad for a massage.
It's an ad for a massage chair.
brendan schaub
I'll take it.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen that before, though?
brendan schaub
Never.
joe rogan
That confused the shit out of me.
eddie bravo
So what do you think right now with Aldo and McGregor?
brendan schaub
That's a tough fucking call, man.
I want Conor to win, but...
joe rogan
Do you?
brendan schaub
I do.
I want Conor to win.
I really like Conor.
And I think it's better for the sport for him to win.
I think moving forward, if you're the UFC man, you want Conor to win.
But Jose Aldo, again, I take heat for this, with the new testing, I don't know how it's going to go down, man.
joe rogan
Oh my god, how dare you.
You're just saying it.
Why are you saying that?
Because he's Brazilian?
unidentified
Mmmmm.
joe rogan
I don't know man.
I'm saying there's a lot of people.
brendan schaub
There's a lot of guys that we've seen fighting now with the new testing.
It's a different story.
I'm not saying he is on things.
I'm saying that's the X factor.
I'm not accusing him of shit.
I'm just saying it could be a factor.
joe rogan
Right.
Okay.
That's all speculative.
Whatever, whatever.
brendan schaub
Nothing wrong with that.
joe rogan
Nothing wrong with that.
But when you look at it as far as past performances, you look at it as far as what their ability...
What they can do inside the octagon, it should be an insane fight.
Because you look at Aldo hasn't lost in 10 years, right?
brendan schaub
I agree, man.
joe rogan
He's been beating everybody's ass.
You watch the most spectacular victories that he's had, like the Cub Swanson fight.
brendan schaub
Dude, Jose Aldo could be pound for pound number one.
A lot of people list he is.
Yeah, he's a fucking nightmare.
unidentified
He's a beast.
brendan schaub
Super beast.
joe rogan
Nasty jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
World-class jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
Some of the fastest leg kicks in the fucking sport.
brendan schaub
If you're gonna bet on it, I mean, it's not bad money because Jose's an underdog in Vegas.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
That drives me.
I just don't understand how someone could call him an underdog.
brendan schaub
You know the odds, Jamie?
Yeah, he's an underdog in Vegas, though.
joe rogan
What do you think the logic is?
That is just hype and betting?
unidentified
It's hype.
brendan schaub
It's hype.
Well, think about Rhonda Hawley.
Again, we're all victim of it.
Twelve to one.
joe rogan
Twelve to one.
brendan schaub
It's all hype.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I think a lot of people who make those odds, they don't know the game inside and out.
But you see Conor on every fucking poster.
joe rogan
But Conor does smash people, man.
I mean, he really does.
You watch that Dustin Poirier fight.
You watch that fight with Dennis Seaver.
Jesus fucking Christ.
He smashes people, man.
brendan schaub
It's a different animal.
Far cry from those two.
joe rogan
Different animal.
unidentified
They both got chins.
They both smashed.
brendan schaub
So he's plus 125. That's basically even in MMA. So they're even right now, right?
Damn, look at that motherfucking fight card.
That is a ridiculous card.
joe rogan
It's the greatest fight card of all time, dude.
brendan schaub
That's aggressive, Mr. Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
You're not seeing the full card?
You're seeing just betting?
brendan schaub
No, no.
I see the card up there.
joe rogan
Here's Yoel Romero vs.
Jacare.
Jeremy Stephens vs.
Max Holloway.
Luke Rockhold vs.
Chris Weidman.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Conor McGregor vs.
Jose Aldo.
brendan schaub
That's amazing.
What's the top five?
You're saying better than UFC 100?
joe rogan
I don't know.
UFC 100 was Brock versus Frank Mir.
It was George St. Pierre versus...
brendan schaub
Alves.
joe rogan
Alves.
brendan schaub
Michael Bisping.
Dan Henderson.
Dan Henderson.
And there's another barn burner on there, too.
joe rogan
I'll say this is the best card.
unidentified
Waller or C.B. Dalloway.
joe rogan
The best card since then.
How about that?
brendan schaub
Akiyama was on that bitch.
unidentified
Was he?
brendan schaub
Yes.
And then you had Jon Jones on the undercard.
joe rogan
Akiyama versus Alan Belcher.
Belcher should have won.
brendan schaub
Dude, you had Mark Coleman versus Bonner.
joe rogan
Alright, here's...
brendan schaub
Ooh, that's tough.
You know, don't get me wrong, I'm saying it's a great card.
It's definitely top three of all time.
joe rogan
There's one other big fight.
Oh, Damien Maia vs.
fucking Gunnar Nelson.
That's another one.
brendan schaub
That's on the main card?
joe rogan
That's on the main card.
So here's the main card.
The main card is Max Holloway vs.
Jeremy Stephens, Damien Maia vs.
Gunnar Nelson, Jose Aldo vs.
Conor McGregor, Chris Weidman vs.
Luke Rockhold, and Jacare vs.
Yoel Romero.
brendan schaub
It's a good argument.
I'm not mad at that.
joe rogan
It's hard to say that's not the best card in a long fucking time.
brendan schaub
In a very long time.
joe rogan
It might be the best card since 100. I agree.
It's debatable.
brendan schaub
We haven't had a card that stacked in forever.
joe rogan
I forgot about Damien May and Gunnar Nelson.
I forgot about that.
brendan schaub
That's a fucking fight.
joe rogan
That's how good this card is.
eddie bravo
You guys watching The Ultimate Fighter with Connor?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I've seen it.
unidentified
It's good, right?
joe rogan
I forgot that Uriah Faber is on the undercard.
You know, they have stacked it to make sure that if Aldo pulls out, they've got strategies.
They've got Uriah sitting on the undercard.
They've got Frankie Edgar and Chad Mendes fighting the day before.
I mean, the whole thing's covered.
They've got three top featherweights.
brendan schaub
Even though they're doing that, if Jose Aldo were to pull out, we're fucked.
Yeah.
I know.
Jose Conner is the only fight.
I love every fight.
It's great.
That's all fine and dandy.
joe rogan
I'll tell you what.
Frankie could go in there and make a nightmare out of that.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Frankie could make a nightmare out of that.
That's a bad idea for the UFC brass.
He's a bad idea for almost everybody.
When you watch his fight with Cub Swanson, that motherfucker swarms.
He's relentless.
He doesn't get tired.
He just has this most retarded pace.
His pace is so fast.
brendan schaub
His footwork, man.
joe rogan
And he's better now than ever.
Frankie's never backed off.
Better now than ever.
I think those years out of the championship spotlight, too, have just made his resolve even stronger.
unidentified
That's going to be a good fight that people are totally sleeping on.
joe rogan
That Chad Mendes-Frankie Edgar fight.
brendan schaub
I totally forgot about it.
Well, in December, there's a week.
unidentified
Three days in a row!
brendan schaub
Are you working all three?
joe rogan
No!
brendan schaub
Just one?
unidentified
Yes!
brendan schaub
Just for the big dog.
unidentified
I can't do three in a row.
joe rogan
I won't have a voice left.
unidentified
That's what I was thinking.
joe rogan
You're screaming, oh!
The third night I'd be like, oh!
brendan schaub
Oh, and then the other main event is Paige versus Rose?
joe rogan
Yeah, did you see what happened with Paige and the haircut thing?
brendan schaub
What happened?
joe rogan
Paige was supposed to, like, they were going to donate money.
If they get to a certain amount, she's going to cut her hair off.
brendan schaub
She's too fine to be doing that.
She's way too fine to be doing that.
joe rogan
She's going to cut her hair off.
So instead, she got a haircut.
Like her management team told her not to shave her head.
unidentified
Was it enough?
joe rogan
No, she's got long hair still.
brendan schaub
She's got a trim.
joe rogan
It's like normal shit that girls do.
unidentified
My bad!
joe rogan
That they don't talk about it.
It's like, I'm going to wash myself for charity.
Don't you wash yourself every day?
She's like, can't.
brendan schaub
I'm brushing my teeth for charity.
Man, I'm not mad at it though.
Don't shave your head.
She's way too fun.
joe rogan
She didn't.
She didn't.
brendan schaub
That's a tough fight, man.
Someone's star is going to fall.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's a good fight.
Rose is dangerous as fuck.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
She is.
brendan schaub
Super finisher.
joe rogan
She's tough.
She's wild.
She throws up a lot of wild shit.
brendan schaub
She's not scared to be off her back.
joe rogan
No.
Interesting fight, right?
Paige is very scrappy, too.
brendan schaub
Super scrappy.
That's a great fight.
joe rogan
Dominic Waters and Dong Young Kim.
This should be a good fight, man.
This is a good fight.
Two big, tall, 170s, like, my man, Killer B, I'm in this bitch!
unidentified
Yes, sir.
I don't know Dominic Waters.
Where does he train?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Young Jamie, please pull up the information on Mr. Waters.
unidentified
Uh, Rufus, maybe?
joe rogan
Do you see Duke behind him?
No, Albuquerque.
unidentified
Fighting out of Albuquerque, so maybe he's...
joe rogan
Oh, is that Greg Jackson's guys?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's Isaac, Valley Fly.
unidentified
So they're going to have a game plan for him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
9-3...
Three KOs, two submissions.
joe rogan
Hey, man, did you notice that Spike TV got rid of Bellator?
Or got rid of...
Not Bellator.
Got rid of Glory?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
See what happened?
Yeah.
Yeah, they got rid of it, and ESPN picked it up.
unidentified
No way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Is that better?
joe rogan
No, not necessarily, because I think it's like ESPN 2. I watched the Glory fights when they were on ESPN. It was pretty cool, but, you know, there's so much shit on ESPN, and I don't know how much they're going to, like...
unidentified
Is Viacom and ESPN intertwined at all?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think Viacom is releasing it.
I think Glory, like they had a licensing deal or something like that, or a broadcast deal.
I think they're owned by different people.
I just think there's some fans out there of kickboxing.
Just need to figure out a way to market it and put some money into it and get people excited about it.
unidentified
Yeah, I fucking love it, man.
I know they were trying to do Bellator and Glory and kind of intertwine some of the stars in there.
I guess it didn't work out as well as they wanted.
joe rogan
Yeah, they had that one event where they had the ring right next to the cage, which was pretty cool.
They tried to do it Japanese style, you know?
unidentified
That would have been cool to go to live, for sure.
joe rogan
On Dong Young Kim's back.
Dong Young Kim's a nasty grappler.
unidentified
Yeah, he's doing what Kim does.
joe rogan
But he's interesting, too, because a lot of judo and his style as well.
unidentified
Yeah, I was Don Yong Kim for Tyrone Woodley when he fought him in China.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
We both fought on the same day.
Were you in China for that?
joe rogan
No, I didn't go to China for that.
That was the one where he came charging at him, right?
unidentified
Yeah, he tried to do a spinning back fist or elbow and got kind of clipped, yeah.
brendan schaub
Mert.
unidentified
Just right hand.
joe rogan
Tyron Woodley, you can't rush at that, dude.
brendan schaub
Hell no, way too explicit.
joe rogan
Especially not that first round.
That first round is fraught with peril.
brendan schaub
And now he's working with Duke Rufus.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Enjoy that.
joe rogan
Well, that was what I said.
Oh, shit, look at that takedown right in the side control.
What I said about...
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Tied that arm up with the quickness, too.
Mounted crucifix just like that, son.
unidentified
Cage walk in!
Cage walk in!
Oh!
Almost.
brendan schaub
Don't think so.
unidentified
He's still near it, though.
joe rogan
You gotta push off that fucker.
Look, you're trying to...
unidentified
Better explode.
joe rogan
Knock down a tree.
brendan schaub
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Oh, he's going...
Keep going for the elbows, son.
Mm.
joe rogan
What were we just talking about?
unidentified
Right arm out.
brendan schaub
Killer B, your card is stacked.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
brendan schaub
That Boston card's stacked.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
That card's great.
joe rogan
I'm going to be there for that.
unidentified
Fuck yeah, dude.
joe rogan
I'm going to Boston.
brendan schaub
You're doing stand-up out there, too, I would assume.
joe rogan
No, no.
Not in Boston?
No, I already had two things booked.
I already had Atlanta booked.
And I'm in Atlanta and Tampa that weekend.
So I have two theaters that I had already sold tickets for.
So then I'm going to fly into Boston on Sunday.
brendan schaub
Busy dude.
My mom goes, your friend Joe Rogan's in Rolling Stone.
I went, yes, mom, he's very famous.
Very famous, mama.
He's been in a bunch of shit.
This is just the start.
joe rogan
Look at this fucking control.
brendan schaub
Can you stop it here?
Because it's not really, you know what I'm saying?
He's not, like, fucking him up.
joe rogan
Man, he can't get his arm out.
It's weird how he can't get his arm out.
brendan schaub
I know.
Great control.
The guy's obviously never spent a lot of time getting out of this.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it seems like his strategy of getting out is not so good.
Who is owning people with this?
brendan schaub
Ten years ago, some guy was owning people with this in the UFC, like ten years ago.
joe rogan
Like, how do you stop it?
Mounted Crucifix?
brendan schaub
Roy Nelson.
eddie bravo
Who was that?
unidentified
Roy Nelson.
eddie bravo
Before that?
brendan schaub
Roy was big.
joe rogan
This is like one of those things you have to stop the fight because he just can't defend himself.
brendan schaub
You think?
joe rogan
Well, that's what Roy counted on.
brendan schaub
Well, Roy's a heavyweight though with that giant belly.
They're just like, ah, yeah, you're not getting out of here.
joe rogan
But this is like very similar to what Roy did.
unidentified
Stop the fight.
joe rogan
Stopped the fight.
Couldn't get out of that Mounted Crucifix.
brendan schaub
Great control, man.
eddie bravo
A lot of levels to that position.
joe rogan
Nasty.
eddie bravo
A lot of levels.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And his level's super high.
You could tell right away it was so tight.
So tight.
Good balance.
But it seemed like Waters had some space where his arm was.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Like, if it's first round two, you're probably gonna be trying to squirm like a motherfucker to get that shit.
brendan schaub
He was all hips and trying to explode.
People forget to work on that one.
joe rogan
Yes, he didn't know how to use his shoulders, right?
To pop his shoulders up?
brendan schaub
Yeah, exactly.
Does Roy have a fight?
Is there any announcement on what's next for Roy?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Didn't they announce Barnett Rothwell?
joe rogan
Somebody photoshopped a picture.
Yeah, they did.
Barnett Rothwell's a good fight.
brendan schaub
I like that.
joe rogan
Somebody photoshopped a picture of Roy Nelson with Akiyama's body, like that kind of body that is just shredded.
I don't know whose body they used to photoshop it, but it was another fighter.
But with him with a six-pack, yoked, I was like, oh my god, that's what Roy would look like if he fought 185. That is what he would look like.
I mean, when you look at Roy, how much weight do you think he could lose?
40 pounds?
unidentified
5'10?
5'9?
joe rogan
Yeah, about 5'11?
5'10?
brendan schaub
Yeah, 40-50 pounds.
Is that in the cards form at that age, though?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, let's forget about all that.
I mean, old people lose weight all the time.
unidentified
There's no age limit on there.
joe rogan
There's the picture.
That's the picture.
Oh, it's Chell Sonnen's body.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's Chell.
joe rogan
Look up there.
Look at that picture up there.
Imagine if that shit was real.
brendan schaub
No, I can't, Joe.
unidentified
Is the guy in the back right legit?
Or is that Photoshop 2?
joe rogan
He's got his dick in his hand if you get lower on the picture of the guy in the back.
brendan schaub
Chael was jacked.
eddie bravo
It looks like Joe, you're on the phone, right?
Dude, Roy Nelson lost 100 pounds.
joe rogan
You gotta see this.
brendan schaub
Watch TV right now.
It's fucking good, though.
joe rogan
That's Chael when he was about to fight Anderson.
He's shredded.
brendan schaub
Dude, if Roy looked like that and was still knocking bitches out like he does, he would...
Okay, that's tough.
He would be...
That's fucking tough.
joe rogan
Boy, that's a big difference.
brendan schaub
He'd be a huge star.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I wonder what kind of effect that would have on his performance.
His whole career, he's been carrying around all that extra weight.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, that's not outside the realm of possibility that he could actually make that weight.
brendan schaub
Oh.
joe rogan
I mean, it is personality-wise and his choices-wise, but as a physical specimen, it's not.
brendan schaub
You think he could get down that without taking performance-enhancing drugs and be that shredded?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Nah, I'll go ahead and say no.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, what is body fat, right?
I mean, you can lose body fat.
brendan schaub
You also lose muscle, though, too.
joe rogan
Right.
But if he looked like that, you're right.
Well, you're going to lose shit.
eddie bravo
I mean, you're going to lose a little muscle, a lot of fat, and you get in great shape.
It's not like you just eat better.
joe rogan
If he dedicated himself to strength and conditioning and started running every day and doing a bunch of shit and eating.
brendan schaub
Diet's the biggest thing by far.
joe rogan
Have you ever fucked with a ketogenic diet?
Have you ever fucked with that?
brendan schaub
I haven't, man.
I did this thing with my DNA. It's called Simplified Genetics where you put your DNA in a swab and you send it to them and it gives a breakdown.
It's called Simply Fit where they do what kind of What weights and cardio you should be doing for your body?
What kind of diet you should be doing that best reacts with your DNA? And they also have one for concussions, which was scary.
Where they can tell from your DNA how prone to, when you do get a concussion, how bad it's going to be on a scale of 1 to 5. Big Brown was a 4. I was scared.
I wish they didn't send me that one.
I literally just got the results two days ago.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
And I was like, goddammit, I don't need to know that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That was a four.
joe rogan
That ain't good, son.
brendan schaub
Yeah, now I'm fucked in about...
I got ten years left, guys, if you want to do this.
joe rogan
They're gonna shoot some stem cells right into your brain.
Just let them do it.
brendan schaub
I'll be the guinea pig right now.
joe rogan
Open up the brain cavity.
brendan schaub
Dude, let's do it.
joe rogan
Just put a little thin hole there, it'll fill up.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at that.
joe rogan
Get that syringe in there, pump it right in the middle of your brain.
Boom!
brendan schaub
Hopefully, man.
unidentified
You gotta go to Germany for the legit shit.
joe rogan
Or is that legit?
brendan schaub
No, they have it here.
unidentified
As far as the stem cells?
joe rogan
No, stem cells they have here, bro.
In LA. Dude, I had some shot into my shoulder in Vegas where they use women's placenta.
Women that have cesarean sections, they get stem cells out of their placenta and they shoot it right into your shoulder or whatever.
brendan schaub
That's another level, son.
joe rogan
Dude, my shoulder was fucking with me for like a year.
I was real close to getting surgery.
I was like, this is probably pretty bad.
I'm like, it hurts after every workout.
I have to put ice on it.
One stem cell shot.
Boom.
Done.
Now it's been four months.
It's getting better.
brendan schaub
Goddamn.
joe rogan
It's not like it worked for a little while and then it backed off.
It's doing something different than all this platelet-rich plasma and Regenicene, things along those lines, which reduce inflammation, promote healing, and they're very beneficial.
But this is total next level.
brendan schaub
I mean, women's placenta, what did that set you back?
Two?
Six million?
What are we talking?
You know, I mean, that's some shit.
Yeah, I don't know where the research...
You're hard to get a hold of.
joe rogan
Well, I think a lot of women have cesareans.
I think it's pretty normal when they want to save the vag.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't want to save the hooter.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at that.
joe rogan
Keep that cooter tight, baby.
unidentified
A little cut on your belly ain't no big thing.
joe rogan
They stitch those things up.
unidentified
Good, girl.
joe rogan
I think it happens all the time.
I don't think it's hard to get those tissues.
And so they do it.
Oh, by the way, I got some of these badass pickles right here, son.
I know you love those pickles.
brendan schaub
Those Grillo's pickles, son.
They are nice.
It's never too early for a pickle.
joe rogan
I ate four of them before you guys got here.
brendan schaub
Oh, damn.
That's what you had for breakfast?
joe rogan
No, I haven't had breakfast.
brendan schaub
Yeah, me neither.
joe rogan
It's too early.
I'm not even going to pretend.
brendan schaub
Dude, when you make those posts that night of your fucking elk meat and moose, and I have fucking Chipotle or something, it makes me feel bad about myself.
joe rogan
I like to cook it when everyone's asleep.
brendan schaub
I know, it looks so nice.
And when you have eggs and shit, it makes me so hungry.
Yeah.
Didn't you do cranberry sauce the other day?
joe rogan
Today, I made my own homemade cranberry sauce.
brendan schaub
I was fucking...
joe rogan
It's so easy to do.
brendan schaub
Really?
Yeah, it's super easy.
I was eating canned cranberry sauce.
joe rogan
It's like two to one water and sugar.
I think I had...
Yeah, I think it was like two cups of cranberries, one cup of sugar, and one cup of water.
It's all sugar.
brendan schaub
Look at that.
joe rogan
Look at that sexy bitch.
brendan schaub
What the hell is going on right now?
joe rogan
How do you air in here?
This is crazy.
brendan schaub
So weird, man.
joe rogan
Bro, this is madness.
brendan schaub
What's madness?
joe rogan
He was on TV and he was right here.
brendan schaub
There's Rogan's fucking cranberry.
joe rogan
There's my cranberry sauce, son.
Look at that.
I made that shit.
brendan schaub
Dude, I might have to stop following you.
At night, I'm like, fuck it.
I just send the Postmates to go pick me up some food.
joe rogan
Dude, if we were neighbors, I would have you come over and eat some elk.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'd be over all the time.
joe rogan
Oh, you would love it, too.
By the way, I got two commercial freezers here because I shot so much elk this year.
I got some elk for you.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at you.
joe rogan
I have some right here.
brendan schaub
Oh, that'd be dope, man.
joe rogan
I got something for you too, Eddie, but I don't know if you're going to eat it.
He won't eat it.
brendan schaub
Why not?
joe rogan
He only eats Chipotle.
brendan schaub
I'm a big pussy.
Do you know Chipotle and the equalize shit going on?
Right now, if you like Chipotle, fucking go.
It's like dead.
No one's there because of the equalize stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, because they had an E. Coli scare.
unidentified
It's still packed.
brendan schaub
That was there yesterday.
It's like all over.
They're shutting them down and shit.
Really?
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
There's that many of them that are having problems?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Trouble.
joe rogan
Jamie's nodding.
Whoa, that's not good.
brendan schaub
I mean, there used to be a line out the door.
I went the other day.
There's no one.
joe rogan
Do you know what it is, Jamie?
Do you know what the story is?
unidentified
E. Coli scare and they don't know what it is.
joe rogan
They don't know what started it?
jamie vernon
The first couple stores they found it in, they stripped them clean, cleaned them all, and they couldn't find the trace.
joe rogan
Oh no.
brendan schaub
Now it's trickling all over, right?
jamie vernon
It's been in Ohio, it's been in like seven or eight states, yeah.
eddie bravo
Yeah, I get E. Coli every time I eat there.
Every time, man.
Instant E. Coli.
unidentified
Do you love anything about it?
joe rogan
Look at that fucking card, son.
brendan schaub
Dude, Sousa Romero.
I love that fight.
I love that fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just wish that Yoel was younger.
You know, I feel like we're getting this super athlete, like one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, and we're getting him deep into his career.
That guy beat Kale Sanderson twice.
You know, I mean, Yoel Romero is a monster athlete.
unidentified
Super monster.
joe rogan
But we're getting him at like 36 when they have the most stringent testing.
unidentified
Ain't that a bitch?
joe rogan
It's so unfortunate.
brendan schaub
It's like giving us Sammy Sosa now.
Ah, I'm good.
joe rogan
You know, it's like I did this interview.
unidentified
But he is a genetic beast.
joe rogan
Yeah, oh, he is for sure.
God damn, look at that combination of those front kicks to the body and that left hand.
Conor McGregor's a motherfucker, dude.
brendan schaub
Motherfucker.
joe rogan
He's a motherfucker.
unidentified
His heart is fucked at 145. He's a beast, dude.
joe rogan
He's a beast.
brendan schaub
Dude, Weidman raw corn?
joe rogan
Do you guys know that Weidman stopped drinking, and now he weighs 190 pounds.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
He's waking up in the morning at 193, he said.
He said he's essentially a welterweight.
unidentified
Stopped drinking, what, alcohol?
Booze.
joe rogan
Stopped drinking booze, started eating really healthy, and he's coming into this fight really lean.
I think he maybe anticipates like a serious pace.
Or maybe it's a weight cut thing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, with the IV. I think this is the hardest fight to call for me.
I think it's the greatest fight in middleweight history.
joe rogan
It's a great fight.
You know, the only thing that it would be the greatest all-time fight if Rockhold didn't have that fight with Vitor.
unidentified
Ah, come on.
brendan schaub
That's an asterisk.
joe rogan
It is.
It is.
But when Vitor wheel kicked him in the head and stopped him in the first round like that, it did sort of change the perception of Rockhold.
brendan schaub
I see what you're saying.
I just like that they're both in their prime.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, they're both fuck, man.
unidentified
Oh, no doubt.
brendan schaub
Neither one of them are ever going to be this good again, I don't think.
joe rogan
I mean, the Vitor asterisk is so strong.
The TRT years of Vitor are so...
It's such a...
I'm so torn more than on any other fighter because I think TRT Vitor is probably one of my all-time favorite fighters.
brendan schaub
Yeah, might be my favorite fighter.
Just real kicking guys' eyes off.
Straight up.
joe rogan
He's like one of my all-time favorites.
brendan schaub
Now think about this.
Jon Jones beat him sauce out of his mind.
joe rogan
That's fucked up.
eddie bravo
I like Anadrol Vitor when he was 19 when he had the traps that were just fucking like this.
brendan schaub
And no technique.
joe rogan
He was like a lion who He was built like a lion.
His muscles started at the top of his head and went straight down like ski ramps.
brendan schaub
Did you see that Jon Jones interview?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I think Jon Jones has a really good point.
That someone in the Athletic Commission, whoever is responsible, didn't tell him that Vitor had tested positive or that he had tested with elevated test levels.
They didn't tell him and they let him fight.
If that's true, he's got a legit point.
unidentified
It's true.
brendan schaub
And he goes, oh no, I have three years to press charges.
He goes, don't worry, I'm not forgetting.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he shouldn't.
Whoever did that, whether it's the Athletic Commission, whatever, who's responsible at that point in time?
Who's responsible?
brendan schaub
I think it's a combo of things.
joe rogan
Is it the UFC and the Athletic Commission?
brendan schaub
Yes, I think so.
You'd have to be ridiculous if you don't think some of the UFC brass knew what Vitor was doing.
joe rogan
Wasn't this a time where Vitor took the fight on short notice because Chael Sonnen, was that the same fight?
No, it was a different fight.
brendan schaub
No, it's a different fight.
joe rogan
Different fight.
I'm confused.
Because that fight actually didn't happen.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
And people gave John a lot of shit.
Which, by the way, in any other sport, in any other sport, yeah, it was Dan Henderson, in any other sport, that would be a ridiculous thing to ask.
brendan schaub
Ridiculous.
joe rogan
It would be ridiculous to ask Miguel Cotto last minute to not fight Canelo Alvarez, but to fight Floyd Mayweather.
Everybody would be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
brendan schaub
I love John's explanation.
He's like, no, man.
I took so many years of training to get to the world championship level.
And you want me to do this?
And then you're making me look like an asshole?
That's not cool, man.
joe rogan
Boy, he gave Chael a fucking beating after that.
Because all the shit that Chael was talking.
Oh, my God.
He gave him such a beating that he broke his own toe, pushing off the mat while he's beating the fuck out of him.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about in that interview?
He's like, yeah, you know, now I'm just going to start taking this serious and start training.
joe rogan
Oh, good Lord.
brendan schaub
Oh, fuck no.
Good luck.
joe rogan
Are you watching all this powerlifting going, ooh, don't get hurt?
brendan schaub
Not really.
I'm like, oh shit, he's training like a professional athlete now.
joe rogan
True.
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
Deadlifting 400, squatting 500?
I think he's deadlifting 600. Is he?
joe rogan
I think he's going for his max on Monday.
unidentified
How much does he weigh in now?
joe rogan
I'm like how fanboy I am.
I'm a fanboy.
unidentified
It's scheduled for Monday.
joe rogan
The big 600-pound deadlift is scheduled for Monday.
unidentified
But he's got to watch his weight if he's staying 205 with the IVs.
brendan schaub
He's 228. Shredded.
joe rogan
So he's lost body fat.
brendan schaub
Yes.
Shredded.
joe rogan
Will that factor in that extra muscle in his endurance?
I mean, it's more of a requirement, right?
brendan schaub
I think it's gonna help him, because he's gonna be stronger.
He's never been a knockout guy.
I bet we see maybe a little more knockouts.
And he's also not been a guy who's trained outside camp.
Now he's training, so I think his body's gonna adapt to it.
I think he's built for it, man.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
And he talked about going to heavyweight, too, after this.
unidentified
I was going to say, or he does.
brendan schaub
No, he said it's just a matter of time.
unidentified
The weight cut, especially with the IVs and whatnot, because I know he was talking about it for a while, going to heavyweight, and he probably cuts a lot, and that's probably a pretty hard cut.
joe rogan
But the big, big fight, right?
If Weidman can beat Rockhold, which is obviously a big if, that's a big fight.
But if Weidman beats Rockhold, and Jon Jones and Weidman hook up in Madison Square Garden, good fucking googly moogly.
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
Look at him.
joe rogan
Look at the difference.
There's a Jon Jones before and after picture we're looking at.
It's all over the internet of him.
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
Where he's like out of shape in between camps for one fight.
I think that was 2013. Yes.
And then 2015, he's on the right and just looks like the Hulk.
brendan schaub
Dude, he said when he was fighting Alexander, he was like, yeah, it's the first time I was tired in a fight because I really didn't train.
unidentified
What the fuck?
brendan schaub
And this dude still goes into the octagon confident.
It's insane how talented that dude is.
joe rogan
He's super talented, that's for sure.
brendan schaub
I'm rooting for him, man.
joe rogan
I'm interested to see what's going to happen with this Vitor thing, if they really did know that he had elevated test level.
brendan schaub
I'm sure nothing will come out until after he's done fighting.
joe rogan
Because when you look at the fight, John got caught in a deep armbar in that.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
And what if his arm broke?
brendan schaub
Because it did hyperextend it.
joe rogan
But what if it broke?
And what if that fucked up his career?
And then we found out that Vitor had elevated test levels.
brendan schaub
You have a lol suit on your motherfucking hands.
joe rogan
It's all very crazy, man.
It's a very strange time because I feel like, you know, they're saving the blood and they're saving the urine for years.
I think like eight years.
And how many people are getting by on the sneak tip with some shit that they haven't figured out yet?
brendan schaub
What are you going to do with that saved blood and urine like eight years from now to shit on legends?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
That's fucked up, man.
joe rogan
That's what they do.
brendan schaub
It's kind of fucked up.
It's kind of fucked up.
Oh, you're out of the sport?
You're a commentator now?
You got a wife and kids?
Check this out.
We're just going to shit on everything you've ever done.
unidentified
I mean, there's probably going to be a lot of extra blood that's unnecessary then, right?
Because how many fighters are probably going to get that in seven years from now?
joe rogan
Well, what's going to happen is when sophisticated testing...
When it improves, when it gets better and better, then they're going to go, oh, well, now, like, they didn't used to be able to test for EPO. They didn't used to be able to test for HGH. HGH is a real recent one, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And now, apparently, there's a new version of artificial testosterone that they're getting from animals.
They're not getting it from yams anymore.
They were getting it somehow or another from wild yams.
I'm too fucking stupid for this.
But now, apparently, they're figuring out how to extract it from animals.
And when they give it to people, it doesn't show up.
It's like the carbon isotope test doesn't show up.
brendan schaub
But wouldn't your levels would still be elevated, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd have high levels.
But they would be, even though they were high, they would still be human levels.
brendan schaub
Oh, gotcha.
joe rogan
Like, when they do that carbon isotope test, apparently, they test it and they can tell.
They're like, oh, motherfucker, you got yams running through your veins.
brendan schaub
Well, my thing is, all right, so you're going to store all this blood and shit like that for eight years.
You tell me a guy tests positive eight years from now, I'm like, dude, who's been watching this shit?
Who's been dealing with it?
unidentified
Has it been under the care of these exact guys?
joe rogan
They have a facility where they have a chain of custody.
They have 24-hour security cameras and all that good shit, dude.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
I don't trust it, man.
joe rogan
I don't trust it.
unidentified
I don't know what they do.
Is this like Olympic qualities?
The same people they do the Olympics?
joe rogan
Well, that's what WADA is.
That's what the USADA is.
brendan schaub
Dude, we have the strictest testing out of any sport now.
joe rogan
Any sport, by far.
brendan schaub
Too intense.
unidentified
Maybe focus on the fight kids instead of testing, huh?
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
The fight kids?
unidentified
I said, well, the UFC at least.
joe rogan
You're talking about Reebok, bro?
unidentified
Not just the sport, really.
Yeah, bro.
How dare you.
brendan schaub
Well, let's put a little money into that, huh?
Fuck the testing.
joe rogan
Well, they spelled most of the people's names right.
Give them some breaks.
brendan schaub
You're right, man.
They put for Conor's shirt and they put the U.S. flag on it.
joe rogan
With Conor McGregor?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, they didn't.
brendan schaub
Yes, they did.
joe rogan
No, they didn't.
brendan schaub
Some fan took a picture.
I think he's from Ireland, bought the Conor McGregor jersey in this US flag and goes, this can't be right, is it?
eddie bravo
Isn't it weird that all the shit that Reebok's taken on their designs and they still haven't changed anything?
You would think by now they would have changed the goddamn design.
brendan schaub
That's their problem.
That's a huge problem.
joe rogan
But if you change the design, you have to admit that it sucked.
brendan schaub
What's wrong with that?
Oh, our bat.
We didn't realize it was going to suck balls so bad.
unidentified
No, no, no.
We're switching it up.
joe rogan
You just got to get used to this.
brendan schaub
No, you can't do that.
joe rogan
You got to get used to dudes fighting with white shorts on so that as soon as there's any blood or their junk gets outlined, their ass looks like they shit themselves because they're just running around on the ground.
brendan schaub
Dude, why not just be like, ah, my bad, my bad, we fucked up.
Here's a new one, though, we've been working on.
We spent way more time on this.
unidentified
I think they said it's like a two-year process.
Like, every two years, they're going to change the style or evolve the uniform.
joe rogan
You know what I think they should eliminate?
They should eliminate shorts and make everybody fight with tights on.
I get annoyed when dudes grab shorts.
I'm like, why do they have something to grab?
Like, you know, don't grab a short, don't grab a short.
It's like, why is that an option?
Why is there an option to grab something like...
brendan schaub
Some guys aren't comfortable wearing the tights, though.
joe rogan
Because they don't like the way they look?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't want everybody to see their jump?
brendan schaub
You're talking to a guy who wears tights.
I like to let my shit out.
joe rogan
Hey, ladies!
brendan schaub
Hey, everyone!
Don't act like you're not impressed.
joe rogan
Benson Henderson.
brendan schaub
Love this dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I like him at 172, man.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what's interesting.
A lot of people don't know this.
This is his last fight on the UFC contract.
joe rogan
This is his last fight?
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
His last fight.
joe rogan
You know, if someone like him went over to Bellator, that would make a big noise, you know?
They got Phil Davis, which I think made some good noise, you know?
But if they can get, like, former champ...
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine?
What about 1FC? If, like, John Jones' contract goes up, and John Jones bails and goes over to Bellator.
Something along those lines.
brendan schaub
I can't imagine that, no.
What if Rhonda's dead?
joe rogan
Good lord.
Oh, good lord.
brendan schaub
What if Rhonda did?
joe rogan
Oh, good lord.
brendan schaub
What if that was the game plan?
joe rogan
Dana White's head would explode.
It would be like that movie Scanners.
brendan schaub
He might kill a bitch.
joe rogan
They could make your brain explode.
They're staring at you.
Dana would be at a press conference.
Boom.
And then Conor McGregor leaves the next day.
His brain pulls back together and then explodes again.
Well, if Viacom really wanted, like, they have so much money, if they really wanted to sink in and just blow, like, a couple hundred million bucks and go, look, we'll just fucking take over this bitch.
Let's make it Spike TV MMA. How many people do you think they could do that to?
How many people would take the chance?
You'd have to give them so much money that they don't ever have to fight again.
brendan schaub
I agree.
unidentified
They don't care.
joe rogan
You'd have to give each guy, like Benson Henderson, you'd have to give them like three million bucks.
brendan schaub
Because it's just not the same.
Even if you have all that money, you're just never going to be the same superstar over there.
It doesn't work that way.
joe rogan
Everybody jumps ship.
It would have to be almost like a mass exodus.
brendan schaub
Well, then Bellator needs to do a lot of things different.
joe rogan
They have to stop calling it Bellator.
brendan schaub
For reals.
Come on, man.
And that shitty logo.
We gotta figure this out.
unidentified
That was up in the air.
Like, when it got taken over by Scott Coker, they weren't sure if they were gonna keep Bellator MMA. They should've asked Big Brown.
brendan schaub
Me and that bitch off.
joe rogan
Straight advice.
brendan schaub
It doesn't matter what you call it.
It does not, man.
It kind of does, marketing-wise.
No, it doesn't.
joe rogan
It does marketing-wise.
brendan schaub
To the masses, it does.
It's like bands.
You can call your name.
joe rogan
Don't call this UFC anymore.
Call it Kissy Kissy Pow Pow.
brendan schaub
Yeah, let me know how that goes.
Yeah.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Time for the Kissy Kissy Pow Pow World Championships.
brendan schaub
Branding's everything, my man.
joe rogan
Bellator's a dumb name.
unidentified
Ask Reebok.
joe rogan
Who'd even heard of a Bellator before?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's a great...
eddie bravo
What about Hootie and the Blowfish?
brendan schaub
You know what I mean?
eddie bravo
It doesn't matter.
brendan schaub
Smashing pumpkins.
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Where are they now?
brendan schaub
Where's Hootie now?
joe rogan
Where's Hootie now?
brendan schaub
Hootie's a fucking country singer because the shit didn't work out and he changed his name.
His name's Daryl now.
His name's Daryl.
unidentified
For real?
He likes country music.
brendan schaub
He's a huge country star.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
His name's Daryl.
Wow.
unidentified
He only had a one hit, right?
That one album, I think, right?
brendan schaub
Pretty much.
joe rogan
He's killing it country-wise.
eddie bravo
His name was never Hootie.
joe rogan
They were gigantic with slightly overweight white girls.
brendan schaub
That's true.
joe rogan
That was where they did their best damage.
brendan schaub
Killing it.
joe rogan
They had good songs, man.
Hootie and the Blowfish were good.
And I'll tell you what, man.
That guy, Darius Rucker, right?
brendan schaub
Darius.
That's right.
joe rogan
He's got a great fucking voice, man.
And the country music people, they needed a guy like him.
Like, see?
We're diverse.
Shit.
brendan schaub
You mean a black guy, Joe?
joe rogan
You said that.
brendan schaub
They needed a guy like that.
joe rogan
I mean a pop singer.
unidentified
Yeah, for sure.
God, you dick.
brendan schaub
Racist man.
unidentified
He's fucking racist.
eddie bravo
He's the Jimi Hendrix of country.
joe rogan
Yo, look how yoked Benson looks.
He looks yoked.
He looks good, man, at 170, you know?
Not having to destroy his body anymore.
brendan schaub
5'9", is that short for 170?
joe rogan
Johnny Hendricks, I think, is 5'8".
brendan schaub
How about Johnny changing camps?
He's leaving Team Takedown.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is that all about?
brendan schaub
I don't know, because Team Takedown invested all this money in him, right?
Like, built him up.
joe rogan
I don't know how that works, because I heard a bunch of different versions of how that works.
unidentified
It was like a 50-50 deal, I'm pretty sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, like they gave him a salary, and then they would get 50% of his winnings.
unidentified
I think he got a salary, they took care of a house to live in.
brendan schaub
When he was younger, right?
unidentified
Well, who knows?
At this point, you become a champion, he might have had the money to...
brendan schaub
50-50, fuck that noise.
unidentified
He might have bought a house.
joe rogan
This is a good fight, man.
brendan schaub
Great fight.
This is a really good fight.
Resvedal is one of my favorite fighters to watch.
joe rogan
He's very crafty, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, he was one of those old school brawlers.
joe rogan
With Kimbo, yeah.
brendan schaub
Backyard brawlers with Kimbo in Miami, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen him.
I like watching him fight, man.
He's very smart.
brendan schaub
Phenomenal striker.
unidentified
Phenomenal striker.
joe rogan
And I think at 170, again, he's a guy who doesn't have to hurt his body to fucking make that weight.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
We're going to see that more and more.
Like Robert Whittaker when he fought Uriah Hall.
That's three in a row at 85. A lot of people were saying he's too small for 85. Three in a row at 85 looks awesome.
brendan schaub
Yeah, really good power striking.
joe rogan
Masvidal is slick, dude.
brendan schaub
Super slick, man.
joe rogan
And good transitions between striking and grappling, but Benson is such a good grappler.
I'm interested to see where this takes place.
brendan schaub
You know Benson outside camp spends all his time in a gi?
joe rogan
Does he?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Interesting.
John Crouch from that old-school Gracie lineage.
brendan schaub
Dude, John Crouch is my first jiu-jitsu coach.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
I held the door open for Ben.
He was just getting ready to fight, pursuing it, and we walked in, we trained together.
This is no light.
Next time I saw him, we were both in UFC signing posters.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
Just a good dude, man.
Great guy.
Set of legs on him.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's like keeping it in kicking distance.
Ooh, nice right hand.
Benson's keeping it in his distance, and Masvidal's trying to close it up.
Ooh, nice shot by Masvidal right to the body and the right hand.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'd give the striking edge to Masvidal, but it doesn't look like it so far.
joe rogan
Well, so far, Benson was keeping him on the outside, but that combination, that right kick to the body and right hand, that had some fucking steam on it.
Masvidal's throwing heat, man.
He's throwing hard shots.
brendan schaub
So Ben's trying to knock his ass out too, though.
joe rogan
I like that switch kick too.
Masvidal's had some knee problems.
So many guys have knee problems, man.
So common.
brendan schaub
Dude, and knees are nothing to fuck with either.
You know, a lot of times it ruins NFL guys' careers.
joe rogan
Cormier got his knee shot up with the stem cells.
Boom.
brendan schaub
He says he's all good, right?
Yeah.
joe rogan
No surgery.
He was ready to get surgery.
He was thinking about it.
That's Dem Cells.
It's a motherfucker, dude.
And this is just the beginning of that.
brendan schaub
Oh, fuck!
joe rogan
Nice counter right hand.
brendan schaub
Great check hook, yeah.
Dude, how about...
What if they did DC, Jon Jones, and Matt Square Garden?
joe rogan
Good fucking Lord, that's a great fight.
brendan schaub
Is it a great fight?
joe rogan
I love that fight.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because I think that DC gets a second chance.
DC, more experienced.
Confident.
Not going to fall for the emotional rollercoaster ride that he got in with Jon.
It's probably gonna stay calm and also doesn't, you know, his knees not as fucked up, but then he's dealing with a focused John who's like not doing coke three weeks out.
brendan schaub
And already beat him too, you know?
joe rogan
Already beat him.
brendan schaub
That fight has to happen.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's happening.
It's happening for sure.
That's the next fight for DC and John.
It's guaranteed to happen.
I'm just saying at Madison Square Garden will it happen.
You think they'll give it to Jon Jones right away?
joe rogan
That Madison Square Garden thing, though, it's not definite yet.
brendan schaub
No, it's definitely not definite.
joe rogan
I think they have to jump through a lot of hoops before April.
brendan schaub
They're making it difficult.
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
He caught him with the right hand, and that was right when Masvidal was going with that right kick to the body again, too.
Madison Square Garden UFC would be fucking insane.
brendan schaub
Insane.
You've got to stack that card like this December card.
You've got to just bring the noise.
Did they get it past him?
No.
joe rogan
It's crazy that it's not...
Oh, nice left of the body.
You heard him with that left hand of the body.
Masvidal's sneaky.
brendan schaub
I always think that's how you can tell an elite striker when you see guys go to the body.
joe rogan
That was perfect placement, too.
brendan schaub
Phenomenal.
joe rogan
Masvidal.
Oh, axe kick.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Crazy.
He keeps landing that right kick to the body.
brendan schaub
He'll mix it up, and his jiu-jitsu is sneaky on the ground, man.
joe rogan
Ooh, leg kick.
That leg's there for him.
Goddamn, he's opening up.
unidentified
Yeah, that was like five in a row.
brendan schaub
Ben's hair always gets in his fucking face.
He's always touching it.
Who was he fighting?
Remember when he was fighting?
Was it Frankie when he'd pull his hair back?
Frankie would jump on it.
Remember that?
He'd pounce and they were timing it after their first fight.
unidentified
That was a nice leg kick.
brendan schaub
Notice how much he touches his hair.
joe rogan
He really should cut it off.
brendan schaub
He needs to cornrow it.
joe rogan
Well, something.
It just gets so in the way.
brendan schaub
Why is he so into it?
Stop doing what you're doing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's one more thing that he doesn't have to think about.
brendan schaub
I agree.
That's what Rose cut her hair, right?
She had eyes in the way.
Fuck this noise.
joe rogan
Yeah, she cut all her hair off.
I mean, it's crazy that Paige wouldn't do it.
Rose is equally pretty.
She's beautiful.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Rose is super.
She actually pulls the shaved head off.
Oh!
joe rogan
He nailed him in that knee.
brendan schaub
Going down now, son.
joe rogan
Look at that.
brendan schaub
Maybe an ish don't think so.
joe rogan
Damn, takedown defense.
Look at him.
brendan schaub
Super confident.
joe rogan
He's laughing.
brendan schaub
Dude.
Dude, Ben wins this one.
His second big win at 170. I mean, he's right up there, man.
You gotta give a guy like that.
joe rogan
This is five rounds, too, man.
We just watched round one, and who do you think won that round?
If you had a judge.
brendan schaub
Masvidal.
joe rogan
Masvidal, right?
brendan schaub
10-9.
joe rogan
If that's a 10-9 round, how is Frankie Edgar versus Gray Maynard?
brendan schaub
That guy should be put down.
That guy should be put down like a shitty dog.
joe rogan
Like a horse with three broken legs.
What happened in that fight?
Frankie Edgar got cracked in the first round where he was down multiple times, completely wobbled, looked like he was out.
brendan schaub
Dude, that's a 10-8 round of five hours.
I'd be surprised.
If you told me 10-6, oh yeah, I'm cool with that.
10-9, I'm like, fuck you.
joe rogan
He tried to tell me it was 10-9 because at the end of the round, Frankie had recovered.
I'm like, you just need to shut your mouth.
brendan schaub
Dude, if we were in a restaurant and he told me that, I'd piss in his mouth.
I would have stood on the table and pissed right on his mouth.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
You're aggressive, bro.
joe rogan
You're very aggressive with your urine.
unidentified
You're aggressive with your urine.
brendan schaub
Like a lion.
joe rogan
Round dose.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about Ben Henderson had big fucking Joe Riggs in his corner?
unidentified
Did he?
brendan schaub
Old school.
joe rogan
Well, Diesel's been training with them, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, he was in Riggs' corner against me.
brendan schaub
Is Riggs in the UFC? Um, he was.
unidentified
Is he still in the UFC? His last fight was Cote?
joe rogan
No, he lost to Cote, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was that the last fight?
unidentified
I think so.
joe rogan
He'd won one before that, right?
Who did he fight?
Ron Stallings?
brendan schaub
Ben, you know Patrick Ote's first team all cutie.
I mean, people dig that dude.
You know this.
unidentified
Yes, Quebec.
brendan schaub
You're not worried about that.
joe rogan
Masvidal's landing that right kick to the body a lot.
That's a good kick for him, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, his striking is, I mean, top-notch, man.
joe rogan
It looks very crisp.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at his fate either on this here.
joe rogan
I'm also not mad at his takedown defense.
That was really impressive.
brendan schaub
Ridiculous, yeah.
joe rogan
That was impressive.
brendan schaub
Ben can get you down.
unidentified
He's like roommates with Colby Covington.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Covington, and fuck, dude.
You have that guy as your favorite training partner, and you're going to get good at wrestling, man.
brendan schaub
Well, they have monsters at ATT, right?
Wrestlers?
I mean, it's just full of them.
joe rogan
That's a great gem, man.
unidentified
He brought his game up.
brendan schaub
Phenomenal gem.
joe rogan
Ooh, the kick to the bottom.
Have you seen the new one?
Dan Lambert just opened up a new giant ATT. Have you been there, Dan?
brendan schaub
In Coconut Creek?
unidentified
Haven't been to the new one.
I saw the buildup.
joe rogan
Is he hurt?
brendan schaub
Dude, he's hurt.
Leg?
Is someone bleeding?
Something happened.
Is that from old?
Is that Akiyama's butt?
unidentified
Damn.
brendan schaub
Oh, his Darces are nasty, bro.
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
Masvidal's Darces are fucking nasty.
Mary got Chiza with a Darce.
joe rogan
We were talking, we missed the...
brendan schaub
I know.
He got Chiza with a Darce.
joe rogan
Chiesa.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness.
brendan schaub
Man, they're throwing down.
joe rogan
Damn, Masvidal.
brendan schaub
I love his movement, man.
His head movement.
He's always moving.
joe rogan
He's sharp, dude.
Very sharp.
Very sharp.
brendan schaub
I never root against Bendo, though.
joe rogan
I wonder if there's any benefit of having all that hair.
brendan schaub
For sure not.
unidentified
I was thinking the comfort effect that you guys were saying, oh, he needs to shave it.
But if you're in the fight and he keeps a toothpick, and if you get used to just moving your hair back, maybe that's kind of like your reset in your head.
You're just like, okay, I'm just chilling out, getting my breath back, and then you're coming with the combos.
Who knows, man?
On a psychological level, it could be there.
brendan schaub
True.
unidentified
If he's so used to it.
brendan schaub
It could be like a comfort zone thing.
Guys are timing it.
Like, Frank Jaeger timed it.
When he would touch his hair, Frankie would fucking come at him, man.
joe rogan
The toothpick thing is so insane.
The fact that he's fought world championship fights with a toothpick stuck inside of his mouth.
brendan schaub
That is weird.
It's just like a comfort thing.
Some people use their breathing as a comfort thing to relax their breathing and be like, alright, I'm good, I'm safe.
I go back to my breathing.
He does a toothpick.
eddie bravo
Some people think that chewing...
I had an old Japanese surfer, stoner, student named Yoshi, and he used to roll and do jiu-jitsu and chew gum.
brendan schaub
He said that when you're chewing, it keeps you sharper.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of people believe that.
A lot of people play pool, they chew gum.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, another thing I've heard is that when you chew gum before something, it's good because your body relaxes, because it says, well, we can't be in danger, this motherfucker wouldn't be eaten.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That might be some bro science.
brendan schaub
Bro science to the fullest.
Bro science to the fullest.
eddie bravo
Or maybe...
brendan schaub
To the fullest.
Here's some more bro science.
This Yoshi guy's full of shit.
How about you're sharper because your body's going, this motherfucker's eating, he's vulnerable.
eddie bravo
You better keep those senses on point because right now I can get attacked by some Wolverine or something.
brendan schaub
That makes sense.
For sure bro science, but it makes sense.
joe rogan
That's even bro-ier.
You took bro science to a new place.
brendan schaub
Come on now.
eddie bravo
I'm gonna go with that.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
This is a good fight, man.
Ooh, nice jab.
unidentified
Ooh.
brendan schaub
I'd love to see what kind of contract Bellator offers Ben after this.
unidentified
Do you think they're gonna offer him one?
brendan schaub
110%.
joe rogan
What if he loses though?
Oh, shit.
Guillotine, guillotine, guillotine.
Oh, no, anymore.
unidentified
Interesting.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder why he abandoned that.
brendan schaub
But he's going back to it.
joe rogan
Maybe he likes it on the right side better.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Maybe he likes it on the right side better.
No, he lost it.
brendan schaub
Ben's jiu-jitsu transitions are nasty.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
brendan schaub
That was a bad idea.
joe rogan
I hate this.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I hate this.
brendan schaub
He's lifting him up.
unidentified
That is sick.
joe rogan
That's nice.
He's lifting him up and knee him in the face.
brendan schaub
Talk about a veteran.
Talk about a veteran fucking move.
joe rogan
That's a great move.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good move because that position's terrible.
Touching the ground.
brendan schaub
You can't do much, man.
joe rogan
People touch the ground.
You can't knee him in the head if you don't know what we're talking about.
Oh, shit.
He fucked his face up, man.
Damn, son!
Masvidal's face is a mess now from those knees.
That was some slick shit.
That was pretty slick.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
That was dope.
joe rogan
I just think that relying on that is crazy.
brendan schaub
It is crazy.
And that gray area where it's the transition of touching, you hit a guy in the face and they stop it.
joe rogan
Stupid.
Stupid.
I like what Herb Dean does.
Herb Dean, someone is doing that and they get nailed.
He goes, you're playing the game.
unidentified
Yeah, don't play the game.
joe rogan
Herb's the best man.
Look at this combo, man.
Goddamn, what a fucking round.
brendan schaub
Yeah, great main event.
unidentified
Dude.
brendan schaub
Dude, why am I the only one pissing?
Is no one drinking as much coffee as me?
joe rogan
Son, I'm conditioned for this shit.
For real, my body's gotten so used to it.
I go three rounds, I'll be drinking coffee, three hours.
unidentified
And nothing.
brendan schaub
Do you just gorilla piss it when you get out of here?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
unidentified
I'm like, where's all that piss coming from?
joe rogan
Like a raging river after a storm.
unidentified
Ahhhh!
joe rogan
How come they don't have the round up there?
Oh, they do.
Look at how they do that.
It's weird.
The dashes on the bottom.
brendan schaub
That's terrible, and they're white, and it blends in with the ring.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a little odd, isn't it?
How about the number three, you fucks?
How about round three?
unidentified
How about the sponsors in Korea?
brendan schaub
How about the main sponsor is that massage chair?
joe rogan
In the middle.
Okay is one of the other ones.
Whatever okay is.
See?
brendan schaub
Out there, that's the shit.
joe rogan
It's like water.
Sakuraba water shirt.
Interesting.
This is an interesting fight, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, really good fight, man.
Back and forth.
Hard to judge.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I like a fight like this being five rounds, too.
brendan schaub
Fuck yes, because it's going to get more clear as these rounds go on.
The judges are from where?
Did they fly them in, or are we talking about some Korean judges?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Since Sexyama lost, I've got to assume they're not Korean, because Korea is notoriously bad for...
Or known for bad decisions.
Because of the Roy Jones Jr. fight.
Remember when Roy Jones Jr. fought in Seoul, South Korea, in the finals of the Olympics, lit that dude up like a fucking Christmas tree in Times Square, and they gave it to the Korean.
brendan schaub
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Remember that?
brendan schaub
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
And then the Olympic Committee, they got in trouble, and there was all this, like, allegations of bribery.
Oh, it was so obviously dirty.
It was so obviously dirty.
You go and watch that fight, Roy Jones Jr. and Roy Jones Jr. that dude, man.
And he still lost the decision.
It was awful.
It was awful.
I've seen it in Taekwondo tournaments, too.
Heavy favoritism.
At least they used to have it.
brendan schaub
In boxing, it's the worst.
In boxing, you never know what the fuck it is.
In the Bradley Pacquiao fight, we just saw it.
joe rogan
Tonight is Vladimir Klitschko and Tyson Fury.
brendan schaub
That's a fucking fight.
I'm more excited for that than anything.
I'm so excited for that.
Hell yeah.
Fury's undefeated, and not to mention, this is the first fighter that Klitschko's face that's bigger than him.
joe rogan
Yeah, taller than him.
unidentified
See those elbows?
brendan schaub
6'8", son.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Knocking dudes out.
joe rogan
Yeah, and has a really high work rate.
brendan schaub
Yes.
Dude, so I think Klitschko's gonna beat Fury.
The fucking fight is this monster, this dying piece of a man in England named Joshua.
He won gold in the Olympics.
You gotta see this dude.
joe rogan
Who is he?
brendan schaub
I think he's 6'7", light on his feet, athletic, knocking dudes out, undefeated.
I'm telling you, this is the next motherfucker.
joe rogan
What's his name?
Joshua what?
brendan schaub
Dude, bring him up.
Joshua.
I forget his first name.
He's a heavyweight from England.
joe rogan
Oh, his last name?
What is it, Jamie?
unidentified
His last name's Joshua.
Anthony Joshua.
joe rogan
Anthony Joshua?
And where's he from?
England?
brendan schaub
Wait till you see this dude.
He has charisma.
He's marketable.
He's knocking dudes out.
He's athletic as fuck.
joe rogan
Brendan Shaw moving into sports management.
brendan schaub
Dude, tell you what.
Wait till you see this dude, though.
joe rogan
Pull him up, Jamie.
I want to see...
Oh my god!
That's a real dude?
brendan schaub
That's a real dude.
One gold.
That's super heavyweight.
joe rogan
Jamie, pull up a video of him boxing.
Let's show a video of him boxing.
brendan schaub
He's athletic, man.
What's his name?
Anthony Joshua.
joe rogan
Anthony Joshua.
How many fights does he have so far?
Wins a super heavyweight boxing.
Let's not...
Oh shit, look at him in the Olympics.
brendan schaub
Give us a highlight reel, son.
Let's get this hype train started.
Look at those guns, though.
joe rogan
It's a serious jab.
Ooh, good fundamentals.
See if you can find, like, a professional ball.
brendan schaub
There you go, highlights, son.
joe rogan
Oh, well, Masvidalga kicked in the balls.
brendan schaub
Perfect timing.
joe rogan
This is a ball-kicking festival.
That looks like Olympic boxing, bro.
See if you can find one that's a professional fight.
brendan schaub
He's doing MMA now?
No, no, no.
He's boxing.
I think he's the next guy to compete with.
joe rogan
Oh, here it is.
Okay, here's him boxing.
Oh, Jesus.
brendan schaub
For how big he is, man?
joe rogan
Look at all those people going crazy.
brendan schaub
That crowd is crunk as fuck.
unidentified
That's such a great statement.
joe rogan
That crowd is crunk as fuck.
brendan schaub
Dude, look at that dude's body!
joe rogan
Interesting.
Wow, that's what they've been waiting for, right?
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Oh my god, look at him.
Works out like a pro athlete too.
brendan schaub
For sure don't show him on the quad machine.
Boy, highlight reel?
unidentified
Nah.
joe rogan
So who's winning this fight?
We didn't even pay attention to the last round.
unidentified
I think it's 1-1 in this round, I'm not sure.
joe rogan
So right now you believe 1-1?
unidentified
Yeah.
Though he did drop him in the first round, I would imagine he finished strong, Masvidal, in the first round, so they would give it to him.
joe rogan
So maybe one, two rounds to Masvidal then.
brendan schaub
That's what I'd say.
unidentified
Well, the second round was Henderson, wasn't it?
brendan schaub
Yes, that's why it'd be 2-1.
So I'd give probably the first round a Masvidal, third round a...
eddie bravo
Even though he got knocked down?
He didn't finish that strong.
I mean, he beat him.
unidentified
Right, that's why I don't know, but it would be 9-9 realistically if you're going with that.
joe rogan
We shouldn't score when we're not even paying any attention.
brendan schaub
No, this is bro scoring.
unidentified
This is the first round.
joe rogan
This is bro scoring.
Bro scoring.
brendan schaub
Yeah, this is bro scoring at its finest.
joe rogan
I haven't watched five minutes of this fight in its entirety once.
brendan schaub
I've seen about a minute 20 of this.
joe rogan
I do like the way Masvidal moves, man.
Ooh, that kick to the body.
His control and distance are really good, too.
Knowing when to hit that switch kick, when to throw the body.
Oh, man.
It's a festival.
It's a dick kicking festival.
eddie bravo
Ooh, that looks bad.
brendan schaub
Good time for a piss break, though.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Benson's still sitting on the bottom.
unidentified
I was going to say that was pretty interesting.
They gave him a stool to sit in while they waited for his balls.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's the end of the fight.
unidentified
Oh, the round?
joe rogan
But look at this.
Oh, that was totally accidental.
They clashed knees and it went right into the jig.
Oh, time in.
Okay.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
That was it.
Yeah, time in, but it was one second.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
So then they bring the corners in.
So it was at the end of the fight, or end of the round.
Makes sense.
It's just...
It's interesting that more people don't wear those compression shorts like diamond MMA cups.
unidentified
Which is amazing.
joe rogan
They're amazing.
unidentified
Amazing.
joe rogan
But it's very rare.
Like fighters, a lot of them don't even know about them.
A lot of guys like the Thai steel cup.
Do you like the Thai steel cup?
unidentified
Uh, no.
joe rogan
No?
unidentified
It was also 50-50.
Another thing you always gotta worry about when you're dealing with those is if by any way it does pinch or nick it, you're still getting, now you're getting that smashed by the cup itself.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
But the diamond cup was good, man.
eddie bravo
Like an edge of your balls?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, it can, the edge of your balls can get caught with a cup on a kick.
eddie bravo
That's so awful.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
So awful.
eddie bravo
So what kind of cup prevents that?
unidentified
No, the diamond cup, honestly, he hooked me up when I went to Chicago.
He gave me one, and that was the first time I ever used it.
eddie bravo
Do your balls ever get pinched?
unidentified
No, I love it.
I love it.
It feels phenomenal.
DiamondcupMMA.com.
eddie bravo
So what do they do differently that prevents the balls being pinched?
joe rogan
They have a crazy setup with the compression shorts and all these straps and everything.
And then the cup itself is like soft on the outside on the edges where it like connects to your leg, but then hard everywhere else.
eddie bravo
That's like regular cups.
joe rogan
It's a real good design.
eddie bravo
That's like the cup I had in a junior All-American football.
joe rogan
I think it's different.
You ever use one of those diamond ones?
eddie bravo
Never.
joe rogan
I got one for you.
brendan schaub
I never use cups.
joe rogan
Do you want one?
Oh, you don't want your workout?
brendan schaub
I don't want cups.
I don't either, son.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
I like my balls hanging.
joe rogan
Dick swingers.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
You goddamn dick swingers.
brendan schaub
I like to rough my shit up like a cow's tail.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, man, these diamond ones, you won't even notice it, and it will protect your dick.
eddie bravo
My knees are always protected.
unidentified
When you're drilling arm bars?
joe rogan
Your dick.
unidentified
Hey.
You'll enjoy.
joe rogan
Well, the other thing about the Thai cups were that people would use them for leverage.
Like, they would say that it's like a leverage point for an armbar or something like that.
It's like you have a rock there.
You could break a stick over, you know?
unidentified
Or back mount with a body triangle.
It's just like hitting the spine.
joe rogan
Or mount.
Like, sometimes people mount you and they'll grapevine or they'll get that dick right in your sternum.
brendan schaub
I call it the dick grinder.
joe rogan
If they could press the hard steel cup right into your solar plexus, that sucks, dude.
unidentified
He keeps doing that from a single.
joe rogan
I know.
It's worse than what, Eddie?
eddie bravo
Forget that.
brendan schaub
Eddie, you need to get on one of these nitro things.
It will wake your ass right up.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're fucking around with that.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you, I took one.
I am wide fuck awake.
eddie bravo
But I already drank a cup of coffee.
brendan schaub
And?
unidentified
I was like, how does that compare to that?
joe rogan
Dude, I did a podcast with Tate.
brendan schaub
They're both fresh as fuck.
joe rogan
I did a podcast with Tate two weeks ago.
I am not exaggerating.
I think he drank four of these during the podcast.
He was so, and he had coffee, regular coffee too.
brendan schaub
Was he just talking?
joe rogan
He just wouldn't shut the fuck up.
He couldn't.
He was like he's on coke.
brendan schaub
He can't even blame a guy.
joe rogan
His fucking crazy beard.
He's an animal.
He's all excited about everything.
brendan schaub
Super enthusiastic.
joe rogan
He's just super enthusiastic about everything.
He's just on crank.
He's on natural coffee beans.
brendan schaub
Super excited about everything?
Fuck yeah, man!
Those pickles!
joe rogan
I love Dave.
brendan schaub
He's the best, man.
joe rogan
He's the best.
He's such a fun guy.
He's such a, like, vibrant guy.
Like, so happy and fucking...
brendan schaub
And he'll get deep.
He will get deep.
We got a slice of pizza the other day, and this fool fucking sat me down and got deep.
I was like, damn, man.
I'm just trying to eat my pizza.
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Benson with the takedown.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit!
unidentified
Lost it.
joe rogan
Went for the back.
unidentified
Lost it.
joe rogan
Masvidal on top.
Looking for that Darce again.
brendan schaub
He's nasty with it, man.
joe rogan
He likes that front choke, too, man.
brendan schaub
For sure.
Hand fight, Ben.
There you go.
joe rogan
Back to defeat.
Nice.
Oh, right hand.
brendan schaub
Great elbows.
joe rogan
He's a little more polished, right?
With his combinations.
Especially more fluidity to Masvidal's punching.
brendan schaub
Dude, Ben's hair is out of control now.
Take down, son!
eddie bravo
That was perfect timing.
joe rogan
Nice timing.
Masvidal right back up to his feet.
brendan schaub
That's all greasy.
joe rogan
Dude, Masvidal is nasty.
brendan schaub
He's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Nasty!
brendan schaub
Dude, you know what I wouldn't mind seeing?
Although Ben did beat him, but Masvidal versus Brandon Thatch.
Got yourself a motherfucking fight, son!
joe rogan
How is Thatch doing with the weight cutting now that he can't use an IV anymore?
Does that have an effect on him at all?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a big-ass Wonserian, and he's also not that disciplined, so we'll see.
joe rogan
Uh-oh.
brendan schaub
Hopefully he's doing, yeah.
joe rogan
Benson looking for the Kimura.
brendan schaub
Here just in his face That drive me fucking nuts Well, he's gonna have no room now I lost him Look at this, look at this, look at this, look at this, look at this shit Mission a cornhole, that's what we saw in the video He's just gonna pass.
He's just gonna push leg down and pass.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Not if Benson's good at this, he's not.
Benson can keep that left leg in play.
It's all about the left leg.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
He's going to pass.
He's passing over it now.
He had to let go.
brendan schaub
It was all in that left leg, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, but he got lazy with it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did.
He forgot about it.
eddie bravo
And never got hit once, though.
brendan schaub
He's also fatigued.
joe rogan
It's true.
Good point.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did control his posture the entire time.
That's where it's at.
unidentified
Oh, oh.
joe rogan
This would be a good time to plug EBI. Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
Sunday, December 13th, EBI 5. I just released the Countdown Show.
brendan schaub
Just go to YouTube, EBI 5 Countdown Show.
It's dope, too.
eddie bravo
Did you watch it?
brendan schaub
Yeah, when you sent me the link, I watched it.
Oh, cool, cool, man.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Good, googly movie.
brendan schaub
Have you watched it, Joe?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's awesome.
It's great.
eddie bravo
Yeah, man, I'm pumped.
joe rogan
It's a half hour.
brendan schaub
The whole Javi story, how...
joe rogan
I know.
How he took it in the last minute.
eddie bravo
Yeah, and now he's at 55. Different story.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Different story.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
eddie bravo
Eddie Cummings is the 145 champion.
Now he's going up to 55, but no one gives a shit because he actually did 170 and tapped out Enrico Coco and he tapped out one of my guys.
joe rogan
How can he move so well up and down and weight like that?
eddie bravo
He's so good with heel hooks, man, that he could do major damage at 170, 155, 145. It must be hard for him to make 145, though.
joe rogan
He doesn't look like a 145-pound guy.
eddie bravo
Cummings probably walks around at 165. That's what it seems like.
Dude, he did Same Day Way and 145 EBI 4. That's impressive.
And that's on YouTube, too.
All 1, 2, 3, and 4, all free on YouTube.
joe rogan
EBI 5 is going to be on pay-per-view at budovideos.com slash EBI 5. Powerful, EBI, greatest, without a doubt, the greatest format ever for grappling competition.
brendan schaub
Agreed.
joe rogan
Not even comparable.
You nailed it.
unidentified
It's amazing.
joe rogan
You got it down.
It's so perfect because it's very exciting up until the final part because everybody's worried about the final part, but you solved the stalemate part and put them in bad positions and have them alternate between having the back mount with an over-under and having spiderweb.
It's beautiful.
It's the best.
eddie bravo
They actually get a choice.
joe rogan
It's so exciting.
brendan schaub
We get the choice.
Dude, I might have a heart attack if I drink another one, but I'm going to do it.
joe rogan
You're going to be fine.
eddie bravo
And then we got Denny coming back to defend his title.
brendan schaub
Denny Prokopos.
eddie bravo
And then Nathan Orchard at 155. That's a different animal because it's hard for him to make 55. He's going to be the tallest, longest man with his dead orchards and his leg locks.
joe rogan
Even more effective.
eddie bravo
Hany Ya Ya's in there?
joe rogan
Yeah, Hany Ya Ya.
eddie bravo
ADCC gold medalist, Hany Ya Ya's coming in.
joe rogan
Hany Ya Ya's going to be serious.
I want to get a fucking shirt from him because he's got Team Constrictor.
I always thought that was the dopest shit.
I always wanted to ask him when they were going into the Octagon.
But he was fought on the undercard, so I never got a chance to get back there.
brendan schaub
Dude, I wish he was one of them Team Constrictor shirts.
I wish he was Team Honey Constrictor.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
That's your new shirt, Team Honey Dick.
brendan schaub
Team Honey Dick.
joe rogan
Who says Honey Dick more than you?
You'd need a Team Honey Dick shirt, man.
For sure.
brendan schaub
Dude, I get so many tweets during UFC. Oh, this is UFC Honey Dick.
That's all I get.
joe rogan
I'm like, no, I didn't say that, man.
eddie bravo
Hashtag Honey Dick.
brendan schaub
That's right.
joe rogan
This is the last round.
The final round.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Masvidal's got some serious grappling.
Serious grappling.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
The Darren Crookshank fight.
As soon as he started grappling with Crookshank, just shut all that down.
brendan schaub
Shut him down.
Crookshank, he's fighting soon, right?
The Detroit superstar?
I heard he did some porn for pay.
joe rogan
Did he?
brendan schaub
You might have to look that up, Jamie.
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Look at this.
eddie bravo
I'm almost part of the male.
joe rogan
Look at this.
eddie bravo
Oh, he's trapped.
joe rogan
He's caught with that hair.
eddie bravo
Oh, he's caught.
brendan schaub
Quick going for the goddamn takedown.
joe rogan
He keeps spinning.
eddie bravo
He's caught.
He's caught.
joe rogan
He spins out.
eddie bravo
He's outside.
brendan schaub
He's out.
joe rogan
He got it.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Very good defense.
brendan schaub
Wow, man.
joe rogan
That is not good.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
He's going back to it.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
He keeps going to it.
brendan schaub
Ben's confident.
joe rogan
Okay, so that's a really close situation, right?
That has to score for something.
That has to be significant.
brendan schaub
That has to score like a knockdown.
To me, grappling, he's in serious danger.
joe rogan
Right, that's like a knockdown.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
I mean, just because he doesn't get stunned and he doesn't get brain damage from that, that shouldn't factor in.
brendan schaub
That's as close as ending the fight is getting knocked down.
eddie bravo
Maybe it wasn't that close.
brendan schaub
But it's a little different.
unidentified
Like if you do an arm bar and they get out of the arm bar, but they did hyperextend or break it or pop it, then you're still damaged and fucked.
If you get out of it, that's different.
If you choke, you're still good after...
eddie bravo
If you got his back, if you took him down past his guard, dominated grappling, and then almost choked him, yes, 10-8.
But from this kind of position, and then he throws a guillotine, but then they're still grappling against the fence.
brendan schaub
Dude, Bam was in trouble, man.
Ben was in trouble.
He's not going to go through all that if it's not tight.
unidentified
But he kept going.
eddie bravo
It's got to count for something.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Big kick to the body.
brendan schaub
Get taken down, son.
Holy shit, his takedown defense.
joe rogan
Goddamn, his takedown defense is on point.
brendan schaub
My word.
unidentified
Yeah, he's wrestling.
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
Really good.
brendan schaub
Hey, Ben's first team all ass, too.
He has some cheeks on him.
joe rogan
He has some thick-ass thighs.
brendan schaub
He's like an NFL running back.
unidentified
Dude, he had some of the best ground and pound where he would stand in the guard and just drop bombs and stay almost in a...
eddie bravo
Horse stance.
unidentified
Horse stance.
I remember WEC all the time.
joe rogan
Boston though, lost the position.
brendan schaub
Dude, how can you score this fucking fight?
eddie bravo
Oh, he should have kept that.
joe rogan
He's getting tired.
brendan schaub
Dang, he's getting tired and Ben's thriving.
eddie bravo
They're so slippery.
unidentified
Look at all that grease.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
eddie bravo
Look at all that grease.
brendan schaub
Ben's grappling the fuck out of them right now.
joe rogan
Are you talking?
What?
unidentified
Google that Crux Shake stuff at your own risk.
joe rogan
Why?
brendan schaub
I'm right, right?
unidentified
I think so.
It's an unconfirmed rumor in 2008. They don't call them Detroit Superstar for nothing.
brendan schaub
There's some shit, that's what I heard.
joe rogan
Is it the regular kind?
jamie vernon
It said something about Solo and some other name.
joe rogan
Solo, like jacking?
Solo jacking?
brendan schaub
Nah, there's nothing wrong with that.
joe rogan
You know what, man?
In the future, there's gonna be Photoshop so realistic and CGI so realistic on everybody's computer.
We're all doing gay porn.
Whether you like it or not, there's gonna be videos you getting stuffed.
unidentified
Well, there's been memes that made me just sucking dick left and right.
joe rogan
Right, but that's just pictures.
They're gonna be able to do that shit with video in no time.
You know, like any video you watch today, highly suspect.
Oh, I agree.
Of a news event, a monster attack, Bigfoot in the woods.
They can make anything happen now.
brendan schaub
Don't get it started.
joe rogan
They can make anything happen now.
And in the future, like...
You're gonna be able to watch every celebrity you've ever wanted to watch.
unidentified
Fuck, fuck.
brendan schaub
I'm looking forward to that.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jennifer Lawrence.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm fucking in.
joe rogan
Marilyn Monroe.
unidentified
I'm sold.
brendan schaub
I'm sold.
joe rogan
Tracy Lourdes and all of them together in a room.
brendan schaub
I'm in.
joe rogan
Going after it.
brendan schaub
Chris Farley gonna blow that?
unidentified
Yeah, he's getting in there.
I'm fucking in.
joe rogan
David Spade sucking Chris Farley's dick.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
All that's gonna happen.
All that's real.
All that's real.
That's it.
unidentified
Then you can get the holograms, right?
Where it's like a 3D right in front of you.
joe rogan
You gotta watch it right in front of you.
And it'll be like, it'll be so good.
The holograms will be so good, you won't be able to see through them.
They'll look like real three-dimensional objects in front of you.
brendan schaub
I can't wait for this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You're just gonna be shooting loads, and the loads will go through them.
They'll disappear.
brendan schaub
You better set your shit up, though.
No, the loads are gonna be there.
You just have shit set up.
joe rogan
Your own loads.
Your own loads.
brendan schaub
Digital loads?
joe rogan
Like, if you were jerking off...
unidentified
It's like a litter box.
A cat litter box.
You just jerk into it.
joe rogan
It's going to be crazy.
What we're going to see in the next 20 years as far as the ability to artificially manipulate images and make things like that magic leap.
You ever seen that magic leap technology they're working on?
They don't know how they're doing it because they haven't revealed it yet.
But they show, like, this elephant dancing in this person's hand.
They show this little girl, like, sitting on a bed, and a four-inch ballerina is dancing in front of her on the bed, and it looks real.
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's insane.
unidentified
Is she holding something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know how it works.
unidentified
Is it projector?
joe rogan
See, the thing is, in the images that they show, they haven't fully revealed it yet, but in the images they show people doing it, the people don't have any goggles on.
There's, like, it's not, like, there's some technology they have where you see it through, like, ski goggles.
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Look at this.
This is like under a DEX, shot directly through Magic Leap technology.
So they have these holograms that they can project in the air like that.
Like, look at that.
unidentified
I want that one.
brendan schaub
That's some Avatar shit right there.
joe rogan
I know, like you're sitting there eating, and above you is the solar system spinning around.
The ones that they showed, they had one of them where it was a whale on the beach.
brendan schaub
It was crazy.
Did you see in Robin Williams' will, he has a contract where they can't use any of his name or likeness for future holograms or any technology like this?
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
How smart is that?
He's like, I don't want to be recreated when technology can do that kind of stuff.
joe rogan
He doesn't want to be like Tupac at Coachella.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he doesn't want any of that.
Pretty smart to think of that shit.
eddie bravo
They should have like a real-time system.
joe rogan
Pretty smart.
eddie bravo
Where the Earth is in relation to the other planets, like real-time.
joe rogan
Pretty smart that they pretend that you're looking at the planets, because they put it right over that girl's titties.
I didn't see the planets.
I'm looking at the solar system, meanwhile.
unidentified
Is there some kind of ferocious mounds?
brendan schaub
Ferocious tits.
joe rogan
Oh, so lovely.
brendan schaub
Is there some, like, TED-type show with the latest technology and jerking off?
eddie bravo
Wouldn't you want to watch other things?
unidentified
Nah, that didn't make TED. Who's winning?
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
It could have gone either way.
brendan schaub
I can't, yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
I didn't watch it close enough, but Split Decision sounds right.
Yeah.
Oh, there's his wife and new baby.
Man, their cardio.
He doesn't get tired at all.
joe rogan
What happened?
They went right to...
Why'd they go right to Masvidal?
brendan schaub
Why would they do that?
joe rogan
Unless it's a terrible...
Hold on.
unidentified
I'm not happy, I mean.
I just want to give thanks to God, win or lose.
I got to compete in the biggest stage in the world.
I wish I had a little more time to beat five rounds, but it's the nature of the beast, you know, next time.
If there was something that could have changed here now that he fought.
joe rogan
He seems like he's accepting a defeat.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It's weird they went right to him though.
brendan schaub
Never seen it before.
First time ever.
Someone fucked up.
You think so?
100%.
You can't go to him first.
Talk to the winner.
joe rogan
It does seem weird.
unidentified
Maybe they want to get...
joe rogan
Unless Kenny Florin, and we didn't listen to the commentary, unless he was saying in the commentary that he thought that Masvidal won.
unidentified
It still makes sense.
brendan schaub
What do you think was the difference here in this fight against Ma Zin-Dang?
unidentified
- - Damn, he's straight up.
joe rogan
Damn, they're talking to Benson in Korean like he doesn't understand English.
brendan schaub
Ben's mom's Korean.
joe rogan
I know.
unidentified
Can I get an amen?
brendan schaub
Can I get an amen, amen?
unidentified
I'm thankful that I got my hand raised.
We all know Do his arms look tremendous?
joe rogan
Huge.
170 looks great.
unidentified
How's the interpreter going to actually interpret this?
joe rogan
Let's keep this bus rolling.
Uh, bus.
unidentified
Whoa.
brendan schaub
Bus and roll.
unidentified
Amen, amen, amen.
brendan schaub
All bounce.
unidentified
You know, for me, this was your best performance, especially in regards to your striking, man.
brendan schaub
This was the sharpest I've ever seen you...
Ooh, I disagree.
joe rogan
Well, we weren't really paying attention that much.
Kenny was on the shtick, fondling his luscious beard.
unidentified
hmm let me pontificate a bad buck son of a gun Is that what he said?
brendan schaub
He was trying so hard not to cuss there.
unidentified
I think he said butt, right?
Because he was trying not to say ass.
joe rogan
Son of a gun.
A bad butt son of a gun.
brendan schaub
Bad bottom son of a gun.
joe rogan
A bad booty bandit?
brendan schaub
Bad booty bandit.
People might boo him.
joe rogan
Big dick bandits.
I get this texted to me or tweeted to me more often than not when I connect myself to you guys in some way.
brendan schaub
Big dick bandits.
joe rogan
Big dick bandits.
What does that mean?
unidentified
It's just a song that we sing on the show.
joe rogan
Sing it for me.
How's it go?
unidentified
It goes, big dick bandits, big dick bandits.
joe rogan
Why bandits?
Are you robbing banks with your dick?
I don't understand.
brendan schaub
Robbing dudes' bitches.
unidentified
That's it.
brendan schaub
Dude, at these live shows, they asked us to sing it.
Me and Brian are starting this chant of Big Dick Bandits.
joe rogan
Those live shows must be so silly.
brendan schaub
So fun.
So fun.
joe rogan
You're doing a lot of them.
Didn't you do one Wednesday night?
Like the night before Thanksgiving?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Wednesday night.
They're all sold out, man.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
brendan schaub
Then the West Coast Tour.
They're all selling great.
Like I was talking before, I'm just worried about the Seattle and Portland because they're huge theaters for us.
You know, 800, 900 seats.
joe rogan
That's big.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
b-real
What about Denver?
joe rogan
Have you done Denver?
brendan schaub
No, we're doing a Midwest run and an East Coast run later in 2016. What are you going to do?
joe rogan
East Coast?
brendan schaub
East Coast, we're going New York, Boston.
I mean, all over.
joe rogan
What are you guys doing for Boston?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
We should do the Wilbur.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, fucking get crazy.
Go 1,200 seats.
brendan schaub
For sure, come with us.
See what the fuck happens.
For sure, come with us.
joe rogan
I'm already there.
brendan schaub
I'm already there.
joe rogan
April's 1st and 2nd.
unidentified
I'm there.
brendan schaub
I'm already there.
joe rogan
I'm already booked.
I just sold tickets.
I'm doing shit way in advance now.
With the UFC, the problem is UFC doesn't announce their schedule as far in advance as you usually do book theaters and stuff like that.
So a lot of times, I'll come into a place, they'll announce it a couple months out, and I'll go, let me see if I can find a place where I can work.
It's too late.
If I'm lucky, I can get the comedy club on a Friday night, but a lot of times I can't even do that.
I have to take a late show.
brendan schaub
You need theater, son!
Fuck this noise.
joe rogan
I like comedy clubs, though.
brendan schaub
I bet.
I'm just saying, especially if UFC's in town, everyone wants to see your shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is what I want to see.
This fucking fight.
brendan schaub
Me too, man.
joe rogan
Goddamn, I hope this actually happens.
brendan schaub
Dude, it's happening.
joe rogan
God, it's gotta happen.
brendan schaub
I just jinxed us.
joe rogan
Aldo and motherfucking McGregor.
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
We gotta have the fight before McGregor puts more tattoos on, too.
brendan schaub
That tiger one.
Alright, man.
joe rogan
Someone's gotta tell him.
brendan schaub
Slow down.
Just take it easy.
joe rogan
Why would you cover your abs up, bro?
unidentified
I don't know.
brendan schaub
He has nice abs.
But why would you do it?
The tattoo's so good it looks 3D. It doesn't look like a tattoo.
joe rogan
Tiger in my belly.
brendan schaub
It's too much.
unidentified
It's too much.
joe rogan
Why a tiger on the stomach?
He just loves tigers.
brendan schaub
He just loves tigers.
joe rogan
He's really into it.
brendan schaub
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
Maybe it's like some spirit animal thing.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
How come they're not showing the short-haired rose pick?
They didn't update their pick.
joe rogan
They don't want to.
unidentified
And the trimmed-haired Van Zandt?
joe rogan
It is trimmed there.
It's perfect.
That's exactly how much she cut off.
I'm not kidding.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at it.
Good for her.
You go, girl.
joe rogan
She would look hot with a shaved head.
Please.
That girl would look hot with a crew cut.
She's hot as fuck.
brendan schaub
They're both hot as fuck.
She can have one leg and I'm on board, yeah.
joe rogan
I dated a girl who was completely shaved and bald when I first moved out to California.
brendan schaub
Really?
By choice?
joe rogan
Yeah, she was hot.
She would wear weird wigs and shit.
brendan schaub
That's kind of cool.
joe rogan
She was hot.
brendan schaub
She must have been on heroin or something.
joe rogan
She was just crazy.
She was from Norway.
brendan schaub
Oh, she was a wild cat.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus, Louisa.
brendan schaub
You don't shave your head just for the fucks of it.
eddie bravo
That's like some cleansing heroin recovery shit.
joe rogan
She was smart as fuck, too.
Very interesting person.
unidentified
I bet she was a freak in the sheets.
joe rogan
Listen, I'm not a kiss-and-tell type of guy.
But what was weird was doggy style.
The back of the head, like, shaved.
It was like, it was odd.
Like, at least when we were looking at each other, I could see, like, you're pretty.
You're a girl.
Even though you don't have any hair.
brendan schaub
Dude, I've been there.
I've been with muscular chicks, and my dick goes, doggy style, and my dick goes.
joe rogan
Not only that, I was in my 20s.
I was too young to handle weirdness.
brendan schaub
I agree, man.
joe rogan
You know, I was 26. You can't handle weirdness at 26. Hell no.
brendan schaub
That'll fuck your whole game up, man.
joe rogan
You're just too weak.
The whole vibe.
brendan schaub
You're not ready for it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not ready.
Any one thing can kill your boner.
brendan schaub
You need experience, man.
joe rogan
Put you in a fucking spiral of panic.
It's a good-ass fight, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was a really good fight.
Good card, man, overall.
joe rogan
Fuck, yeah.
For whatever we paid attention to.
brendan schaub
Shit, man, forbidden, though.
joe rogan
We should just get together at 5 o'clock in the morning some days and just have a podcast.
Just watch TV. It doesn't matter.
brendan schaub
Have Flintstones on or some shit.
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Watch Fox News and talk about the girls delivering the news.
Bunch of chicks with skirts on.
Let's talk about them.
brendan schaub
CNN brings the heat, though, with chicks.
unidentified
Do they?
It's new?
brendan schaub
Is that a new thing?
I don't think so.
It's just the way they operate.
joe rogan
Well, they had to probably compete with Fox.
Because Fox is bringing in them she-devils.
Those blonde, white she-devils.
brendan schaub
And Telemundo.
Have you watched news on Telemundo?
joe rogan
I can't handle that.
I can't handle that.
It's too hot.
I can't pay attention to the news.
All them senioritas giving out the news.
The ruby red lipstick.
unidentified
They don't even fight around with natural skin colors.
brendan schaub
I wish I got that channel as a teenager.
I would have jacked my shit raw.
eddie bravo
Do they have that on YouTube, them Spanish ladies doing the weather?
Do they have them on YouTube videos?
brendan schaub
Have you seen that Spanish girl on Telemundo doing the weather?
Oh, fuck.
Her body is ridiculous.
She's an angel.
unidentified
I was dead serious!
joe rogan
More of an angel than Sexyama?
brendan schaub
No, let's not get crazy.
joe rogan
You used that twice.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I did use that twice.
joe rogan
You gotta be careful.
brendan schaub
She's a legit Latin angel, man.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Damn.
brendan schaub
She like crossed over because she was like on TMZ and shit.
She's so fine.
Really?
There she is!
Look at that ass, son.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
Is that real?
brendan schaub
Uh, yeah.
eddie bravo
That's a weird ass.
joe rogan
Major smoking hot storm front in from Mexico.
It's a weird ass.
Weird in that it makes my dick dance.
brendan schaub
Yeah, weird that my dick's filling up with blood.
If that's what you mean by weird.
unidentified
Look at her ass in the right hand, the last frame.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's like...
It's insane.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
joe rogan
First of all, it's really rude that she sticks it out like that.
eddie bravo
It's her left cheek that's kind of weird.
brendan schaub
The right cheek is perfect.
joe rogan
Isn't that funny that a girl's totally allowed to stick her ass cheeks out like that?
Like, if a guy walks around like this, puffs his chest out, and throws his arms back, the guy's a loser.
If she stands like that for long, she's going to blow a disc.
brendan schaub
100%.
That's not safe.
joe rogan
That's so dangerous.
brendan schaub
It's so dangerous.
joe rogan
You can't carry anything with your ass like that.
brendan schaub
It's so dangerous.
joe rogan
If she tried to carry a lunchbox, she might fucking have a herniated disc.
brendan schaub
Dude, she's my girl.
She's walking around like that all the time.
unidentified
I'll carry her wherever the fuck she wants.
Click that shit.
joe rogan
That's so fun.
The ass on the right-hand side is off the charts insane.
brendan schaub
Yannick Garcia?
unidentified
Is that how you say it?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Yeah, you know, there's that that Latin body that voluptuous like what's that girl?
Oh My god, look at that video.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you bro.
What?
joe rogan
Okay, so she doesn't even have to like arch your back.
Who's that guy?
Is that a guy talking about her?
brendan schaub
He's breaking down her booty.
Y'all were ready for that.
joe rogan
Shows off booty live on TV. Good Lord.
brendan schaub
It makes our weather girls look like fucking shit.
joe rogan
It's a little fucking pro tip to the guy doing the video.
We don't need to see you.
We can hear you.
brendan schaub
Yeah, just voice over, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, we don't need this.
This is not necessary, sir.
This is interrupting with the girl's booty.
brendan schaub
Yeah, we don't want to see your lame ass.
joe rogan
Stop.
Stop.
Jamie, please.
Get away from him.
Quickly.
Find another video.
There must be other videos.
This is outrageous.
What is that?
Dead fish or some shit?
unidentified
Yeah, that booty's off the charts.
joe rogan
Oh my god, there's a compilation of her.
What other girl has a weather...
brendan schaub
Who has a body like that on planet Earth doing the weather?
joe rogan
A good girl like her.
So important.
brendan schaub
It is very important.
I bet their rating was through the roof.
unidentified
Jesus.
brendan schaub
Meanwhile, in America, we get that fucking guy, the black guy lost all the weight.
unidentified
What's his name?
You know what I'm talking about?
joe rogan
Al Roker!
brendan schaub
Al Roker!
unidentified
Oh my god!
brendan schaub
Fuck you, Al Roker!
unidentified
Fuck!
Fuck!
We get that black guy lost all the way!
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's so stupid!
brendan schaub
It's so stupid!
joe rogan
Look at her, oh my goodness.
unidentified
Oh my god!
brendan schaub
It looks like she's topless right there.
joe rogan
No, no, no, it's just red.
That's crazy.
brendan schaub
You find a hotter weather girl, come talk to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think...
Well, girls don't get hotter.
There's like a level of hot, they just get different.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
You know?
They don't get hotter.
brendan schaub
It's like a nice...
joe rogan
Yeah.
It gets to a certain point where you're like, okay, this is just hot.
She's just hot.
I agree.
I mean, undeniable.
She's a 10. Yeah, no guy looks at that and goes...
But that's one of the most hilarious things about guys online.
brendan schaub
Elbows are way too pointy, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the standard one that people always mock.
unidentified
Oh, fuck off.
joe rogan
But there's so many guys that talk shit about unbelievably smoking hot chicks.
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
They talk mad shit online.
She ain't nothing to me, bro.
brendan schaub
Maybe a six, bro.
Maybe a six, bro.
joe rogan
Bro, I have real tits.
Shut up.
brendan schaub
Dude, the internet and social media is fucking vicious.
joe rogan
They're the most vicious.
brendan schaub
Like Rhonda came, go on social media right now.
She needs to stay off for a...
She needs to post and never look at it.
What if she laughs at the memes?
What if she's having fun with it?
Hey, Eddie, look at me.
She's not.
You don't think so?
100%.
joe rogan
That had to be devastating, man.
brendan schaub
That's horrible shit, man.
joe rogan
You know, that's a kind of KO, too, that you've got to go, man, hopefully she recovers 100%, and she's back, and everything's great.
But you don't have to recover 100% from a KO like that.
Like, head kick like that?
Yeah, man.
That's a bad knockout.
brendan schaub
Well, what about your confidence, too?
What about, you know, obviously health issues, what about your confidence?
joe rogan
Confidence is a factor.
brendan schaub
You think you're invincible, you think you're the baddest motherfucker on the planet, then all of a sudden, it's like, nah, you're just like the rest of us.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that certainly can be a factor.
But confidence, I feel like maybe you could get that back through meditation, or through hypnosis, or through something, or through just hard work and determination, maybe, but...
The physical stuff, like if it's bad, it's bad.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Like, look at T.J. Grant's a good example.
T.J. Grant got one concussion.
He was in line to fight for the title.
He has never fought since, and now we went back to work.
brendan schaub
Is he done done?
joe rogan
And I got a job, yeah.
brendan schaub
Damn, where's he working at?
joe rogan
Like a mine in Canada.
unidentified
God!
brendan schaub
God!
joe rogan
Who?
T.J. Grant.
Remember T.J. Grant?
unidentified
Oh, shit, yeah.
joe rogan
Lit up Gray Maynard.
Looked fucking fantastic.
unidentified
Elbows.
brendan schaub
Real, his elbows?
joe rogan
Oh, he's devastating.
brendan schaub
Ridiculous, man.
joe rogan
Nasty technique.
Nasty technique.
Tough fucking guy, too.
brendan schaub
He was working at a fucking...
Horton's or some shit?
joe rogan
That's a bummer, man.
Those mining jobs, like in Alberta, they make good money.
brendan schaub
He had a good chance to be a world champ.
joe rogan
Could have been a world champ.
I mean, he might not have won the first time at the title, but he had real legit world-class skills.
brendan schaub
100%.
He could have made a good run.
joe rogan
How about Chris Holdsworth?
Same thing.
Concussion.
He's got a problem.
He hasn't fought since.
unidentified
Didn't he have an ACL too or something like that?
Perhaps.
Some kind of surgery.
joe rogan
Maybe.
unidentified
I remember.
joe rogan
Joseph Valtellini, glory champion.
How to relinquish his title.
Concussions.
brendan schaub
If Conor has a bad loss, if he gets like KO'd and gets caught real bad, head kick or something, I mean, damn.
joe rogan
You know what, man?
I think, like, look at...
First of all, Holly Holm's all over the place now.
She's on every fucking news show.
She's all over ESPN and all these different sports shows.
She easily could have a gigantic pay-per-view in her next card.
Like, people are excited about her.
brendan schaub
Only if it's Ronda.
joe rogan
Maybe.
But if it's not Ronda, she might have half a million.
It's possible.
If she has a good fight...
brendan schaub
It's tough.
joe rogan
But the amount of...
Positive publicity she got out of that.
brendan schaub
Everyone's a fan.
joe rogan
People are going to want to see her fight again.
And if they see her fight someone like Cyborg maybe.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Or 140. If she says, I'll step up to 140. And she fights Cyborg at 140. Or even, I think she fought as high as 150 when she was kickboxing.
brendan schaub
I don't think she'll, you know, I love Holly.
I think she's great.
I don't think she'll ever be as big of a star as Ronda, no matter how many fights she makes.
joe rogan
She might not be.
brendan schaub
Ronda's had this perfect storm of personality and hatred and destroying girls in 16 seconds where it was like this perfect storm.
unidentified
What if she becomes the next Cynthia Rothrock, man?
She's going to be like the greatest B-movie.
Cynthia Rothrock.
joe rogan
That's hilarious, boy.
unidentified
She pulled that shit out of your ass.
brendan schaub
Dude, I was just saying, I mean...
joe rogan
She was like a forms champion, Cynthia Rothrock.
Do you remember?
unidentified
Yeah.
Her and, well, Kathy Long actually.
joe rogan
She was a kickboxer.
unidentified
Kickboxer.
eddie bravo
Gina Carano, Holly Holm.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
unidentified
I'm just fucked up.
joe rogan
That would be a crazy fight if Gina Carano came back.
brendan schaub
That makes sense.
Let's just play devil's advocate.
Let's say, and there's a good chance, I'm not even hating, but let's say Conor were to lose.
Who's the UFC superstar?
Who's the...
joe rogan
Jose Aldo, if he beats him.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
No, not in America.
joe rogan
Jon Jones.
brendan schaub
Jon Jones would be the next megastar.
joe rogan
But how come Aldo can't be a megastar, but Anderson was?
brendan schaub
I don't know, man.
Because he's smaller?
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
brendan schaub
I think so.
That's the way America works.
His English is terrible.
eddie bravo
He'll be on another level.
unidentified
It could also be the middleweight division's been for how long?
Middleweight's been forever, and then Aldo's kind of still the only and the new division.
joe rogan
But if Aldo crushes McGregor, people will just make comparisons to Ronda.
Like, uh, you guys overrated him.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
That's definitely what will happen.
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
They're like, oh, UFC, just the hype train, blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan
See, but the thing is, the hype is real.
Like, you look at his fights, there's no hype.
brendan schaub
He's got lost in 10 years, you fucks.
joe rogan
It's real.
But both, Conor and Aldo, both of them, that's real.
I mean, you look at Conor destroying Mendez, beating the fuck out of Seaver, blasting Poirier out in the first round...
brendan schaub
I mean, it doesn't compare to what Jose Alves done at all.
joe rogan
No, but the Brandao KO, but he's legitimately skilled, 100%.
That's an exciting fight.
The what the fuck is going to happen factor is very high, right?
unidentified
Super high.
joe rogan
You look at that fight, it's like, what the fuck is going to happen?
brendan schaub
Huge risk.
joe rogan
You could speculate all day, but the best is what's going to happen after whoever wins, you'll be able to go online and there'll be the I told you so dudes.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
Lined up.
Lined up.
brendan schaub
It's so weird, man.
It's hilarious.
What kind of dude gets on social media?
Way to fucking go, Joe Rogan, Eddie Bravo, and Ben.
Way to go.
joe rogan
I don't mind that.
That doesn't bother me.
What is kind of crazy is the ferocious beating they're giving Ronda.
brendan schaub
I feel like she asked for it, though.
Like when you post that night before the fight, like, you fucking fake ass bitch, blah, blah.
Hey, man, relax.
So when you act like that and you don't shake hands and you're an actual, you know, when you go after these girls and you don't have a reason to, then people are like, you know what, now you're being a bully.
And so when you lose at that level.
joe rogan
You're being a goon, man.
unidentified
He was a goon.
Goon's a good word.
brendan schaub
Goon's a legit word, Ben.
joe rogan
That's a good word.
You know when I started using that word again?
Eddie Bravo, it was back before we knew that North-South Choke was legit, and Monson got someone in North-South Choke, and you said, he gooned him.
unidentified
That's a great word.
joe rogan
I started using that word, it was a long time ago, because think about how long north-south chokes have been legit.
But there was a while where we didn't know that a north-south choke was legit.
brendan schaub
Munson made that shit fancy.
joe rogan
And Munson is such a tank, he just assumed that he gooned him.
brendan schaub
Like, who bought that choke?
Like, come on, man, you're just squeezing on his head.
joe rogan
That's what we thought!
brendan schaub
Goon squad, son.
eddie bravo
Meanwhile, you're really good at that.
joe rogan
That's my shit.
I love North South chokes.
brendan schaub
I'm like a purple belt with that thing.
eddie bravo
Every now and then I'll put them on.
brendan schaub
Carwin was a beast.
joe rogan
North South choke is like all the elements of the head and arm choke, which is always my favorite, but you don't put pressure on your own neck.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like you don't have as much pressure on your own neck.
eddie bravo
Marcello's really good at him.
unidentified
It's easy to save it.
joe rogan
My man is all fucked up from head and arm chokes, man.
eddie bravo
I think Jaime Yaya actually got one in the UFC. Yes, he did.
Maybe one or two.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think he did too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you don't call people a goon anymore when they do it.
joe rogan
No, it's a nasty technique.
brendan schaub
Super nasty.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Who else fucking did that?
Someone did that.
It was Juan Canero.
Did he nail one?
Did he land one recently?
I feel like...
brendan schaub
I haven't seen one in it.
unidentified
Because he did that three fights in one night.
joe rogan
Somebody got that north-south choke recently.
I don't remember.
But that's a super, whatever.
It's a super effective technique, but when you said it, you were like, he gooned him.
eddie bravo
I don't think I made that up.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't think you did either, but you said it to me.
It's a great term.
brendan schaub
Ben just brought it back.
unidentified
She's like, she's being a goon!
joe rogan
I think you're totally right that she brought it on herself in a lot of ways.
And what makes someone excited about a guy like Floyd Mayweather pulling it off and laying those stacks of paper, if he did get KO'd, can you imagine if Manny Pacquiao landed a bombing right hook?
unidentified
Same shit.
brendan schaub
He would get so much hate.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
But meanwhile, when Manny got knocked out by Manuel Marquez, I mean, there was almost none of that.
There was like, whoa.
brendan schaub
There was like meme hair.
You felt bad for him because he's a good person.
He's not mean or he doesn't have bad intentions.
unidentified
He's like, well, I hope the fight goes good.
joe rogan
Floyd is a very good boxer.
brendan schaub
I love everybody.
Alright, cool, man.
I don't want to see that guy lose.
joe rogan
Thank you, Jesus.
brendan schaub
That was weird, man.
unidentified
For as much as she is getting kind of memed on and people messing with her and whatnot, would you say that's probably the most expensive head kick knockout anybody's ever been paid?
joe rogan
Um, yeah, probably, right?
No one ever probably made as much money as she did.
Like, when you think about, like, she has a percentage of pay-per-view buys.
That was over a million pay-per-view buys.
brendan schaub
No way.
joe rogan
Yes, it is.
brendan schaub
A million pay-per-view buys?
Over.
eddie bravo
That was the biggest UFC ever, then.
joe rogan
No.
No.
brendan schaub
Brock was?
joe rogan
Some of the GSP fights.
brendan schaub
GSP's, Brock's, yeah.
eddie bravo
They cracked a million?
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Brock did.
unidentified
Brock is probably the biggest UFC star.
eddie bravo
The rematch with Holly Holm will probably break records.
brendan schaub
Well, that's why Holly's not going to fight anyone else.
Because that's the UFC's fight.
joe rogan
But wouldn't you say that from just the injury alone, just the head kick alone, when Freddie Roach was willing to work with Pacquiao again after the Juan Manuel Marquez fight, he said, I want you to take a year off.
brendan schaub
I agree with Ronda.
Go do all the movies you want.
joe rogan
A year.
You think so?
unidentified
A year?
joe rogan
But Holly's not going to wait a year.
brendan schaub
Holly's going to have to fight somewhere else.
The other thing is the pressure from the UFC and Dana and Rhonda being so close.
It's going to be tough for her to be like, no, I want to take a year off.
joe rogan
Right, but she needs a significant amount of time.
Even if it's not a year, it should be several months with no contact at all.
Nothing.
brendan schaub
Nothing.
Now, are the people surrounding her, if they're looking out for her best interests, are they going to allow her to do that?
Let's see who's really in her corner.
Someone in her corner should say, take a year off, let's just clear everything, take a year off and do your thing.
joe rogan
And she, with her strong will, she might think she can come back sooner than she can, right?
brendan schaub
And that's where your fucking people around, you should be like, no, we know you want to, this is the game plan.
Her manager should be like, here's the game plan.
She needs to take a year off, but of everything except wrestling, she should move to Iowa, buy a ranch, Just, you know what I mean?
You can't fly him here?
joe rogan
Buy a wrench, then you gotta sell that wrench after you move.
brendan schaub
Maybe rent a wrench.
eddie bravo
Bring all the girlfriends out there, you know what I mean?
unidentified
And wrestle, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle.
joe rogan
Good luck selling some shit from Iowa.
eddie bravo
Go to Oklahoma for a couple months, Iowa for another couple months, Illinois, just hang out with all them wrestlers.
brendan schaub
Or just make a shitload of movies for a year and then just do your thing.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, I mean, there's some good wrestling in California.
Fuck yes.
You're gonna get plenty.
eddie bravo
She needs to get away from all this shit.
unidentified
She needs to go find a cornfield.
eddie bravo
Yeah, cornfield and run it during the day.
joe rogan
Like that Kevin Costner movie?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Field of Dreams?
eddie bravo
How long before the HBO Ronda movie comes out?
unidentified
Just Ronda.
brendan schaub
That stuff's tough to sell now.
It's tough to sell now.
Rowdy.
joe rogan
It isn't if she comes back.
Tough to sell?
eddie bravo
Are you kidding?
This is the best.
It's better than ever now.
unidentified
Are you kidding?
brendan schaub
Only if she wins a comeback, my man.
eddie bravo
Remember when Rocky lost against Mr. T the first time they fought twice in Rocky III, and he got his ass kicked in the first one?
joe rogan
Do you know that?
Remember that?
This is not real.
eddie bravo
That set up that main event.
unidentified
This is not real.
brendan schaub
That's fake, my man.
eddie bravo
No, but what I'm talking about, if it's in the movie, that's how you get people excited.
joe rogan
Eddie Rao was high.
brendan schaub
You know what?
eddie bravo
He got beat.
He got beat at like...
brendan schaub
You got an ambient.
eddie bravo
Hey, Rocky got beat like at the one hour...
He got knocked out at the 1 hour 20 minute mark.
unidentified
I thought, how could this be?
How could he lose?
Is the movie over?
brendan schaub
But the movie wasn't over.
eddie bravo
It wasn't over.
It wasn't over.
Right now, there's still 45 minutes left in the Ronda movie.
This is where she comes back.
brendan schaub
Only watch if there's a comeback.
eddie bravo
This is where she moves to Iowa.
Instead of Rocky going to the fucking mountains, she's going to go to Iowa.
By herself.
unidentified
No girlfriends or nothing.
Do they just write that part or do they actually show it?
eddie bravo
Hey, you know what?
She's working on her autobiography.
unidentified
Is she working on the wrong story?
eddie bravo
Well, now she's got the best part ever.
brendan schaub
Well, she had the book already, right?
She's got that?
joe rogan
The book's already come out.
brendan schaub
There's no end chapter in that book.
eddie bravo
This is the best part.
brendan schaub
They need to fucking fill an extra chapter and download online.
eddie bravo
This is her chance to go Rocky III on everybody.
joe rogan
You know what's really crazy?
Is that she's the favorite in the rematch.
Yeah, that's pretty nuts.
brendan schaub
That's fucking insane.
joe rogan
What are you basing that?
Who's making the odds?
That seems...
eddie bravo
Someone already makes odds for a fight that's not gonna happen.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they do that all the time.
Like, there's odds for John DC already.
joe rogan
But you can't...
Can you bet?
Can you throw money down?
brendan schaub
I don't think you can bet yet, no.
joe rogan
No.
So there's odds, they've established odds just to what?
Just to jerk off?
brendan schaub
Probably.
Here's a look, yeah.
joe rogan
You have a look.
brendan schaub
Jerk off online.
joe rogan
Yeah, it seems to me that you can't make Holly anything but the favorite.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
I couldn't imagine.
We saw them fight.
We saw how it played out.
We saw how strong Holly looked.
We saw Holly take Ronda down.
We saw Holly completely light her up, standing.
I knew, like, early in the first round, Ronda was in trouble.
brendan schaub
Trouble, yes, right away.
You see that look on her face.
joe rogan
Well, it's also Holly's movement.
She was so light on her feet, and she was countering so well.
I was like, unless Ronda lands a bump, she did land one good left hook, but it was right before Holly took her down.
Like, she landed one good left hook that made her sit down.
brendan schaub
Dude, watch Holly's old boxing fights, and she eats some fucking shots from world-class boxing opponents and just keeps on keeping on.
joe rogan
Did you see the one fight where she got KO'd?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
That's hard to watch.
brendan schaub
The fight's great, though.
It's back and forth like a motherfucker.
But it's a brutal KO. It's a brutal KO through the ropes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, I had a guy in Starbucks ask me, I wanted to slap the fuck out and throw this scolding hot coffee on him.
He goes, hey, man, heard the fight was fixed.
I get that a ton.
People ask me, hey, I heard that fight was fixed.
You fucking moron.
Yeah, Rondo's like, let's fix this fight.
And in this fight, you're going to outclass me on the feet, and then the second round, fucking kick my head off.
Because that's how we want this to go.
joe rogan
People are so dumb they shouldn't be able to talk.
There's some people that are walking amongst us that might as well be like shrews out in the forest.
brendan schaub
Straight up.
joe rogan
Foraging for roots and berries.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
They might as well be, but they live in a society where they can get a job doing some stupid...
Move this box over there.
Okay.
God, I hate my job.
brendan schaub
It's a weird world, man.
joe rogan
And they go and do that, and then they get health insurance, and then they survive.
And then they fucking go to the hospital, and someone way smarter than them fixes whatever thing's wrong with them.
brendan schaub
For reals, man.
joe rogan
And they pretend like they're people, but they're not.
They're like talking shrews.
brendan schaub
Dude, this guy was like mad at me because I looked at him and go, are you serious?
And he goes, dude, it's not crazy to think that.
I'm like, no, it's fucking insane to think that.
unidentified
It's not crazy.
joe rogan
It's just stupid as fuck.
brendan schaub
It's stupid as fuck.
joe rogan
That's like, you shouldn't be able to comment on fighting if you think that that looks like a fake fight.
Like, that's like me looking at an airplane going, how's that flying, bro?
It's metal.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Bro, it's metal.
How's something metal fly?
brendan schaub
It's crazy, man.
joe rogan
Just shut the fuck up.
Like, it's really that stupid.
To think that fight is fake.
brendan schaub
There's some weird conspiracy theory where they're like, ah, let's have Ronda lose.
No, that's the worst thing that could happen for them.
unidentified
Let's not do that.
brendan schaub
Speaking of conspiracies...
joe rogan
What do you got, Eddie?
eddie bravo
No, I'm just kidding.
That was a perfect segue into Tower 7. You think Rocky's real, huh?
joe rogan
Kim Charles.
Rocky.
brendan schaub
Are we going to war?
eddie bravo
I'm not saying it was real.
unidentified
Are we going to war?
eddie bravo
That's how movies are made.
That's what movies are made of.
She's in the middle of a real movie.
brendan schaub
No, I get it.
joe rogan
No, she's in the middle of some real shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, some real shit.
This ain't a movie.
This story might not end like Rocky.
joe rogan
Oh, we totally understand what you're talking about.
brendan schaub
I got it.
joe rogan
Rocky III. You look at what a long time ago.
eddie bravo
We got it.
joe rogan
If you look at the difference between her life just a couple of months ago and her life now, boy, after Brazil, she's on top of the fucking world, right?
She's cheered in Brazil, beats Bechco Heia by KO. The whole thing is just spectacular.
The whole world falls at her feet.
What is it, ESPN or Sports Illustrated called her the greatest female athlete ever?
eddie bravo
She's on the cover of Ring!
joe rogan
Who was it?
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
Cover of Ring magazine.
It was either ESPN or Sports Illustrated.
One of them.
But whatever it is.
brendan schaub
She won an ESPY for Fighter of the Year, beat up Floyd Mayweather.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's crazy.
brendan schaub
And then Holly Holm said, that's cool.
Check this out.
unidentified
Shadoosh!
brendan schaub
And then fucking...
unidentified
Shadoosh!
eddie bravo
Shadoosh!
brendan schaub
Kick that bitch into fucking 1997, and now here we are.
joe rogan
That head kick, too, man.
The way she did it, LaRonda was like stumbling back, and she didn't even see it coming.
eddie bravo
It's like Eve Edwards.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
Dude, every person tells me in her camp, every person goes, yeah, bro, no injuries.
Well, no, I get that, but her brain's probably pretty fucked up.
No, man, no injuries.
joe rogan
Look at me in the fucking eyes.
How can you say that?
How can anybody say that?
It's dangerous for the sport to pretend that that wasn't a devastating KO. Devastating KO. It's dangerous.
brendan schaub
That's the worst head kick KO in the history of combat sports.
joe rogan
For women, not for men.
Cro Cop and Gonzaga, Gonzaga Cro Cop, all Cro Cop's fights in pride.
brendan schaub
The reason why it's so big, the reason it's so big, we've never seen someone of that Haliburg knocked the fuck out like that.
We've never seen someone have that inner prime star get knocked the fuck out by head.
joe rogan
In that way, you're right.
In that way, you're right.
Yeah, that would be like if Vitor did that to Jon Jones when they fought for the title.
brendan schaub
Yes, exactly.
joe rogan
If Vitor rock-holded him with a wheel kick.
brendan schaub
Then you're like, what the fuck?
But when Krokop and Gonzaga fight, it was big, but Krokop was on TMZ every day.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Right, yeah.
Star-wise, yeah, it's the biggest one ever.
And it was pretty goddamn devastating.
And then when you consider the fact that she got lit up for all those hard shots in the first round.
brendan schaub
Taken down?
joe rogan
Yeah, taken down.
But really, the shots that she ate to her face, and then the big head kick comes in the second round.
Like, boom.
After missing that crazy wild left hook, Holly ducks under, looks like a ghost.
brendan schaub
But you see interviews where everyone's like, no, her lip's fine.
joe rogan
Doesn't matter.
brendan schaub
No, it's not, man!
No, her lip got fucking split.
She has stitches.
joe rogan
Okay, but she got fucked up.
brendan schaub
She had her on the ground for a bit.
She had her in the car for a bit.
joe rogan
She didn't really have the arm hooked.
She didn't have the arm hooked.
It wasn't really that close.
But the thing about the KO is, it's not about what you're seeing on the outside.
Obviously, her nose was bleeding.
She had blood in her mouth.
Whatever stitches she had to have on her lip, that's all going to heal up.
That's fine.
But inside the dome...
That's a head kick.
brendan schaub
Brain's a brain, son.
unidentified
Honestly, the faceplant, too.
The faceplant was a hammer fist, and then the hammer fist.
Those didn't help.
brendan schaub
When's the last time you saw females get fucked up like that?
joe rogan
Yo, and Holly's got some thighs on her, dude.
I bet there's a lot of pop to those kicks.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Because the way she bounces around the octagon, that's some serious force behind those legs.
brendan schaub
Did you see Rhonda called it before on Jimmy Kimmel?
She's like, she thinks she's going to kick me in the head, but I don't think so.
unidentified
They have to She's gonna get me frustrated.
She called it all.
joe rogan
Yeah, she really did.
You know, I think you have to live a stoic, singular existence to be a fighter at the highest level when you're fighting someone as dangerous as like a Holly Holm.
And that's what Holly did.
She lived a stoic, singular existence.
She lived for a purpose.
She did her media obligations, but she trained like a fucking wild beast.
She didn't have any movie distractions.
She didn't have all this other stuff.
brendan schaub
Since she was 15 with the same staff.
joe rogan
And she's got nasty skills, man.
brendan schaub
And she's been in world championship fights multiple times.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, why didn't we see this coming?
brendan schaub
I agree.
eddie bravo
If you go back to that fight podcast, the last of the fighting rebellion...
brendan schaub
No, we all said it was ridiculous.
unidentified
Not me.
joe rogan
I thought that Amanda Nunes would be a more dangerous fight because she had just finished Sarah McMahon.
She's got KO power.
She fucked Kat Zingano up in that first round pretty bad.
I was like, she's a dangerous fight.
Amanda Nunes is dangerous.
brendan schaub
If you look at it, we're all wrong, but if you go back and- The Raquel Pennington fight is what really threw me off.
unidentified
Split decision.
brendan schaub
I agree.
Her previous Austin experiences and her previous fights, I was like, ah, I don't really see it.
unidentified
She looked good.
brendan schaub
But if you go back and look at Holly's resume, you're like, oh, fuck yeah, man.
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
When she was bouncing around in the octagon, too, you're like, she's got some serious movement.
There was no one that Rod had ever fought the move like that.
Compare her to Alexis Davis.
I mean, there's just no comparison in the movement.
brendan schaub
No, she made Sarah McMahon look like a tortoise.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Sarah McMahon's like a tank.
unidentified
Yes.
She didn't even try to hide it.
She came right in the ring.
She showed exactly what she was going to do the entire time.
brendan schaub
She always does that.
unidentified
As she's coming in, while they're doing the name call-out, she's like, I'm going to be going left and right.
brendan schaub
When Rhonda went to throw that left hook and she just, and Rhonda ran into the cage, she turns around like, What the fuck?
joe rogan
She was already stunned and dazed.
brendan schaub
Like the fucking Matrix.
joe rogan
She was already in trouble.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she had like eyes were here.
Like fucking, oh god.
It's not Snowflake.
joe rogan
It's weird for the world to see that, but I think, like we were saying, like ultimately I think for martial arts it's good.
You have to know that you've got to have all your ducks in order, and you have to know that you've got to be able to do everything.
brendan schaub
And stay humble, my friends.
And stay humble.
joe rogan
Stay thirsty, my friends.
brendan schaub
Stay thirsty, my friends.
Stay humble, motherfuckers.
Otherwise, you're going to get kicked into humbleness.
joe rogan
But there's a lot of money in not being humble.
unidentified
I was going to say.
I was about to say.
joe rogan
Conor McGregor.
brendan schaub
There's a different, though.
Conor McGregor, he talks some shit, but after the fight, he gives respect, and he's humble.
Hugging guys.
Like, he's a great champion.
You know, this guy has great skills.
Ronda's not like that, man.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
That's why everyone, these memes and all this shit's coming out.
Even Floyd Mayweather's humble.
After he's like, dude, he's a great fighter, man.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
That's the difference.
I see what you're saying.
What is that?
What is that from?
brendan schaub
I think it's this anger that she has to fight with.
It's this hole that she's had since losing her dad.
It's just this dark darkness.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Ooh.
brendan schaub
It's tough, man.
joe rogan
Dude, you just killed my day.
unidentified
He just went there.
joe rogan
He just went there.
Yeah, that's dark.
Yeah, she gets real.
For martial artists, though, when you watch that fight, it's such an important lesson that regardless of hype, regardless of past accomplishments, regardless of past performances that have looked spectacular, you've got to analyze all the movements.
brendan schaub
Especially in the UFC. Everything.
Especially in the UFC. Like, boxing, you can start off a round of You might see a box go down four rounds, whatever, and they come back.
In the UFC, there is no, all right, I'm going to figure it out.
No, man, especially at a world-class level.
They're going to murk you out.
There's so many ways to lose.
Yeah, that's a big thing.
You don't have room for error at that level.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's pretty crazy.
Pretty crazy to watch such a shift, like a changing, not just a changing of the guards, but like a...
Just a shifting of reality.
eddie bravo
Is there a Dwayne Ludwig of wrestling?
A guy who's taken dudes that weren't that good at wrestling and now they're just taking everybody down.
unidentified
Lister Bowling.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Lister Bowling.
Muscle Farm Gym.
joe rogan
Lister's great.
brendan schaub
They have T.J. Dillashaw there now, Neil Magny.
eddie bravo
She's got to get on the wrestling.
That year off should be wrestling every day.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of guys.
Kenny Johnson.
brendan schaub
There's a ton of good guys, yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of people could help her with wrestling.
unidentified
That's all she should be doing.
joe rogan
Brennan had a good point about her knees, though.
unidentified
I was going to say that, too.
Adaptation, man.
I mean, everyone's different.
If you've got bad knees, you've got to pull guard down.
brendan schaub
Like, Rhonda can't do road work.
She can't do road work because of her knees.
joe rogan
She doesn't do road work?
No?
brendan schaub
Like you see her jog on the sand, but she can't jump on the road and do work because it'd fuck her knees up.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Do you think she's been doing judo since she was in diapers?
That's some shit, man.
All their tossing, all the knee movement.
unidentified
Yeah, I had a buddy that I shredded knee from judo.
brendan schaub
Judo's gnarly, man, in a gi.
Especially doing it at her level.
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I wonder if they could get that stem cell shit and shoot it in there.
brendan schaub
I'm sure.
joe rogan
Pump it back up.
It's gonna be very interesting times because Holly's also 34, so you gotta think like how much longer can she compete at this level?
Like without any performance-enhancing drugs, let's just be honest, right?
When you start hitting the 30s, like it starts to wane.
The body stops.
brendan schaub
Especially with her experience.
joe rogan
Yeah, like when we were kids, boxers, when they would hit like 34, 35, it was over.
brendan schaub
You know, NFL running backs, as soon as they hit 30, game over.
If you're 28, they're a little sketchy.
Really?
30, you're taking the back of the shed.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
Is that because of the damage that you take?
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
All the wear and tear.
After 30, it never works out.
eddie bravo
After a couple knee surgeries and you're running back, that's why there's been so many scrambling quarterbacks that they come into the NFL and this one's going to scramble his way to the Super Bowl.
And their scramblers are hard like Michael Vick.
But then they get hurt once, they get hurt twice, and now they can't scramble.
Now they're forced to throw in the pocket.
Then their careers fall apart.
brendan schaub
What's going to be interesting to see in the UFC after...
Let's say Ronda were just like, you know what?
Fuck this noise.
I'm out.
I got so much money.
I'm Scrooge McDuck of girls.
So he...
She peaces out.
You know what I'm saying?
What happens to women's MMA? Because you can paint it how you want, but there's no...
Rhonda made women's MMA. She's a superstar.
There's no other headliner like her.
unidentified
It would be Gina.
It would be the same thing.
brendan schaub
Nope, nope.
You can't have Paige as a main event on a pay-per-view.
It would never happen.
unidentified
Yes, you can't.
brendan schaub
No, you can't.
eddie bravo
Against Johanna?
unidentified
Are you kidding?
brendan schaub
No, that's not a main event.
That's not going to sell pay-per-views.
eddie bravo
That's what they said about Rhonda.
brendan schaub
No, they didn't.
She was a superstar since day one.
joe rogan
Paige doesn't have the kind of skills that Ronda has yet.
brendan schaub
She doesn't have the finish rate.
She doesn't have the max factor.
joe rogan
She might be able to develop those because she's really young and she's only been fighting for a short amount of time.
Paige, she's very scrappy.
She's very aggressive.
She trains hard.
She fights hard.
brendan schaub
She's not Ronda Rousey.
joe rogan
Not yet, but she could be.
brendan schaub
Not yet, she could be.
I'm just saying, right now, if Ronda dips out, Holly Holm vs.
Misha Tate is a co-main event.
unidentified
I would love it.
brendan schaub
It's a co-main event.
There's a dude as a main event.
There's no other girl right now who could carry a pay-per-view card.
eddie bravo
You're batshit crazy.
I think Holly can.
brendan schaub
You're crazy.
joe rogan
I think Holly can carry a card right now if she can.
eddie bravo
I think Joanna vs.
Paige Van Zandt could headline a show.
brendan schaub
That's a fight night.
joe rogan
You don't think Misha Tate vs.
Holly Holm could headline a pay-per-view?
brendan schaub
Not at all.
eddie bravo
What about Cyborg Holly Holm?
brendan schaub
I think that's a co-main event.
eddie bravo
What about Cyborg Holly Holm?
Hell yeah, that's a main event.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's a main event, but does the general public know who Cyborg is?
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
eddie bravo
They could change that real quick.
No, they can't.
They just roll out the marketing machine, boom, they got so much power.
They could blow Cyborg the fuck out of the wall.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
joe rogan
If you want to go deep with the marketing, do you mention the fact that Cyborg's tested positive for Cyborg?
eddie bravo
No, you don't say shit.
You don't even bring that up.
brendan schaub
The media's gonna find out and just...
I mean, because if you have Cyborg...
Listen, Cyborg has skills...
joe rogan
But doesn't that make it, like, more enticing?
brendan schaub
But with her looks, with her looks, and it's like, what the fuck?
Who's gonna buy that?
They're gonna be like, what the fuck are we doing?
joe rogan
Well, everybody, me, you...
brendan schaub
We're some meatheads.
joe rogan
We're some bros.
brendan schaub
We're some bros.
You hate women, don't you?
No, I love women.
unidentified
I hate them.
You hate women?
eddie bravo
Bro, come on.
unidentified
Bro.
brendan schaub
I mean, would I pay for that weather girl to get in the outgun?
Yeah, I would!
unidentified
Is she a headliner?
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, what Rhonda did for the sport, there's no one even close.
joe rogan
No, not right now.
brendan schaub
Right now, every other girl would come right now.
joe rogan
Right.
When you go to like Cyborg footage, what was amazing about Cyborg when she beat Gina was how terrifying she was.
It was a different kind of force.
brendan schaub
I agree.
unidentified
Eight years ago.
joe rogan
And swole and she was chasing down Gina.
It's just, it was a different thing.
brendan schaub
It was scary to see.
joe rogan
It was a very aggressive, powerful energy.
Now, if you add that to, like, accusations and you show the positive test results.
brendan schaub
And then she's your champ.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Okay, then she's your champ.
Then what happens to women's MMA? It goes...
joe rogan
Serena Williams with six months of sprawl training.
unidentified
Serena Williams with six months of sprawl training.
joe rogan
She comes out flying knee to you in the head.
Can you imagine how fast that girl could explode?
Think about how she explodes off the line to tennis.
They have to explode left and explode right.
brendan schaub
Hand-eye coordination?
joe rogan
Teach her a flying knee.
Shaboom!
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Just launches through the air.
unidentified
Boom!
Not Ash, just ten minutes behind.
Fucking sick.
brendan schaub
I wish, man.
I'm just saying, women's MMA, if Ronda pieces out, has a long ways to go.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
And Cyborg isn't your answer.
No, it's true.
If Cyborg's your champ, it kills women's MMA for a little bit.
How dare you?
And Holly doesn't have the personality to carry the torch like Ronda does.
eddie bravo
I think she has that Ronda Couture personality.
I think she does.
I agree with Eddie.
unidentified
There's room for that.
eddie bravo
There's room for that great American good girl that everyone's going to be behind, who's the best striker in women's MMA. Chris Wyman's that guy.
joe rogan
Then why is Yeah, but Chris Weidman didn't knock out Ronda Rousey.
You know, it's not the same thing.
If there was some male version of Ronda Rousey that was like, fuck the world, you know, some like Junie Browning type character that became a world champion.
I haven't heard that name in forever!
brendan schaub
You brought out Junie Browning, son!
joe rogan
I'm just saying a male version of that.
Like War Machine.
Brash, like aggressive, but they would have to be really good too.
They have to have the skills to back it up.
They would have to be undefeated, smashing.
It would have to be like a new entity.
A male Ronda Rousey.
eddie bravo
Like if he knocked out and just flattened Jon Jones, Chris Weidman would be fucking king of the world.
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
He wants to fight Jon Jones.
You know that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But you know what?
What's interesting is, like I said, he's like 190 something now.
Like 193. That's tough.
brendan schaub
Eating right.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's interesting.
I wonder what he's doing.
eddie bravo
He should be 170 then.
brendan schaub
Well, that fight might not happen because John's getting bigger and Chris is getting smaller.
joe rogan
What if Chris goes to Welderweight?
brendan schaub
Good luck.
joe rogan
Good luck, everybody.
unidentified
I want to see those pictures of him at 190, man.
joe rogan
I know.
unidentified
He's got to be really skinny for 190. Yeah, I would imagine.
Because he was walking too...
brendan schaub
He's a big boy.
Weidman is such a freak.
Such a beast.
He's a beast.
joe rogan
And like Jon Jones, grew up with his brother beating the fuck out of him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
That's a big factor with a lot of fighters.
brendan schaub
It really is, man.
joe rogan
You're in competition in the house all the time.
brendan schaub
I was, my record against my brother, I was one out of 3,000.
Just a shitty, shitty record.
Just beat the brakes off me all the time.
We had to go to anger management, it got so bad.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
Oh yeah, it got so bad.
joe rogan
That's funny, because you're so tight now, it's funny.
brendan schaub
Yeah, we're super tight.
joe rogan
That's weird how that works like that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a serial killer.
joe rogan
Brothers have issues like that.
It's like Matt Hughes and his brother used to look the same, they looked exactly like each other, and they would beat the fuck out of each other.
brendan schaub
Look at John Jones.
His two brothers are straight freaks.
One's one of the best players in the NFL. Just the three of them beating each other up.
eddie bravo
My brother would fuck me up.
brendan schaub
I would have to be a slave.
eddie bravo
He was four years older than me.
brendan schaub
When he was 12, I was eight.
eddie bravo
In a summer vacation, I was the remote control.
brendan schaub
I turned off the lights.
Are you guys close now?
eddie bravo
Yeah, we're cool.
We're cool.
brendan schaub
Sounds really good.
unidentified
No, we're cordial.
eddie bravo
No, no, we're great.
joe rogan
It's going to suck if you beat your brother up and your brother becomes a martial arts champion.
brendan schaub
You're like, shit.
unidentified
He's a blue belt.
joe rogan
He's a blue belt.
unidentified
Whatever.
eddie bravo
Like I said.
He's a blue belt, man.
brendan schaub
Far cry from Eddie Bravo.
joe rogan
A little bit of a step.
eddie bravo
He used to sock me ten times in the shoulder for every time I'd fart.
He could fart any time he wanted, but if I farted, I'd have to take socks to the shoulder.
joe rogan
Wow, how rude.
brendan schaub
Jesus, man.
Sounds like he was a bully.
joe rogan
Weird fart games.
Eddie liked the punishment, so he's farting on purpose.
Hit me.
brendan schaub
Hit me.
eddie bravo
Here we go.
joe rogan
Fart battles.
Brother and sister fart battles.
brendan schaub
Any brothers or sisters, Ben?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, I got three brothers.
I actually got a twin.
Fraternal twin and a sister.
brendan schaub
I didn't know that.
unidentified
Yeah, he doesn't do martial arts.
He's actually extremely passive on a physical level, but he was into politics and whatnot.
He was...
Man, I forget what it is.
House of Representatives.
brendan schaub
Damn!
unidentified
Out in Florida.
So on a political and verbal level, he was always the guy that would sit there and run his mouth and I would get angry and emotional and punch him.
brendan schaub
Is he physically similar to you?
unidentified
What's that?
Physically?
I mean, he's tall too.
I'm more built.
But I definitely had my older brother do karate and then try damn spinning back kicks on me and fucking random shit.
Hey, just stand right there.
joe rogan
No way.
Fuck you?
What a dick.
unidentified
What an asshole.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why you can't leave boys alone.
brendan schaub
Weird shit happens, man.
joe rogan
Then they cover up the crime.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
How did he get buried?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
He fucking died and shit.
But it's amazing.
Like, John Jones, right, grows up with two super-athlete brothers.
All three of them beat the fuck out of each other.
brendan schaub
Rhonda, three sisters, picked on her.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Isn't that interesting how that works like that?
unidentified
It's weird, right?
joe rogan
It's interesting.
It's interesting, like, Weidman...
I don't think Weidman...
I shouldn't talk on this, because I don't know, but I know he had...
Fights with his brother.
I don't think they talk too much anymore.
brendan schaub
I bet the Noguera twins are totally tight.
They seem like they're like...
joe rogan
Yeah, they seem different, right?
brendan schaub
They grew up competing.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They seem different.
They don't seem like...
But what do we know?
unidentified
They seem like they bang chicks together growing up.
For sure.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you wish, Playboy.
joe rogan
I can see them now kicking off their...
Who's a metaphor?
Pulling up to the cabana.
brendan schaub
In their geese.
joe rogan
Fucking chimp.
That's my guac.
eddie bravo
Are you Big Nog or Little Nog?
brendan schaub
You tell me, girl.
joe rogan
You're the same Nog.
eddie bravo
It's one of them Nogs.
I don't know who it was.
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
So, Ben, you're on the Boston card.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good card.
unidentified
Yeah, really good, man.
joe rogan
That's a T.J. Dillashaw fight with Hennem, not Hennem Burrell.
brendan schaub
Cruz.
joe rogan
Dominic Cruz.
Damn!
Big, big, big fight.
Big fight.
unidentified
Huge.
joe rogan
Big fight.
Just for Dominic and his fucking injuries.
unidentified
I know, man.
brendan schaub
I'm curious to see how, I'd show up Dominic makes it to the fight.
I'm curious to see how that fight goes.
joe rogan
It's still January.
That's a whole month of training.
It's a long time.
eddie bravo
That's a fucking crazy fight.
brendan schaub
Holy shit.
unidentified
Great fight.
eddie bravo
Both guys just fuck people up.
brendan schaub
TJ needs a fight like that.
It's going to boost.
Because, you know, beating Hennem Burrell, the U.S. really didn't know who he was.
So, like, all right, cool.
We know he's a big underdog.
But Dominic Cruz, granted, he's been out of the limelight.
He's a motherfucker, man.
joe rogan
He is.
And goddamn, how good did Dominic Cruz look in that Mitsugaki fight?
I wish I hadn't seen him fight him forever after that.
He came out like a demon.
brendan schaub
He beat the shit out of that guy.
joe rogan
And TJ looks sensational in the Borowry match.
brendan schaub
Look at that card, son.
Oh, you got Anthony Pettis, Eddie Alvarez.
Oh, shit!
Brown Mitrione's a beast of a fight.
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
brendan schaub
Boch Herman.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
First fight on the main card so far?
joe rogan
Crookshank Felder.
brendan schaub
Possibly.
Detroit Superstar.
I love watching Detroit Superstar.
joe rogan
And Dan Crookshank.
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
Trinaldo Pearson.
Look at that sexy bitch that Patrick Cote is fighting.
unidentified
Bro.
brendan schaub
Bro, that...
joe rogan
That's Ben Saunders.
brendan schaub
That Rosa-Heddy's fight is ridiculous.
That's a good fight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Everyone keeps saying it could be a pay-per-view, man.
joe rogan
Trinaldo and Ross Pearson.
brendan schaub
Bro, this is a fight night?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
God damn.
This is a fight night, bro.
Fox Sports 1. Holy shit.
brendan schaub
Dude, Darius is on the undercard?
joe rogan
Yep.
First fight, man.
brendan schaub
And now is he fighting a caveman?
joe rogan
Against Tysimov.
Tysimov is a bad motherfucker, dude.
eddie bravo
Dude, this should be a pay-per-view card.
joe rogan
That's a great card.
brendan schaub
This is a stacked card.
joe rogan
You're doing this one?
Yeah, I'm doing this one.
eddie bravo
Is this channel?
brendan schaub
Is this Fox or Fox Sports 1?
joe rogan
I think this is Fox Sports 1. Is it?
That's incredible.
eddie bravo
How is that even possible?
joe rogan
It's because they made it a world title fight, so they decided to have a really strong undercard to back it.
brendan schaub
That Fielder Cronshaw is a motherfucker.
joe rogan
I wasn't supposed to do this fight.
This was like last minute.
Not last minute, obviously, because it's not until January.
But fairly last minute, they asked me to do it.
I wasn't scheduled to do it.
So that means that's why I can't.
I'm not even going to be there for the weigh-ins.
I won't get there until Saturday morning or Sunday morning.
brendan schaub
They're bringing the heavy hitters.
joe rogan
It's on Sunday, too.
It might be like after a football game or some shit.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about Dominic Cruz?
20-1, son.
20-1.
joe rogan
Who'd he lose to?
brendan schaub
Dominic Cruz lost to...
joe rogan
Uriah.
brendan schaub
Uriah, that's right.
Knowledge.
Good call, son.
WEC. Yep, WEC days.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then he beat him in the rematch.
unidentified
Who called it?
You?
brendan schaub
Rogan did.
Oh, Rogan.
Damn.
WEC, son.
joe rogan
That's a good fight.
It's a great fight.
It's going to be interesting to see who's got better footwork and movement.
brendan schaub
I would assume TJ's the favorite, Jamie?
Yes.
joe rogan
Well, it's because he's been active, right?
brendan schaub
Yes, that's a huge factor.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
That's gonna be a great fight.
brendan schaub
Damn, Donald Raccoon has long titties.
joe rogan
I can't wait for Pettis and Alvarez.
brendan schaub
I know, right?
You guys coming to the show?
eddie bravo
Are you going to Vegas for McGregor?
Conor McGregor?
brendan schaub
No.
You're not?
No.
eddie bravo
So you're coming to the show?
brendan schaub
EBI's here?
eddie bravo
It's on Sunday, yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'll come for sure.
You're gonna be able to make it?
unidentified
You're gonna come back and boom, you're not gonna get in trouble with the wife or anything?
joe rogan
I'll figure out a way to mark it.
eddie bravo
It's gonna be nuts.
brendan schaub
That'd be fun, man.
eddie bravo
Denny, Javi, Cummings.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you could also, if you're not going to be there, you could watch it on pay-per-view.
eddie bravo
Yeah, budovideos.com slash EBI5, Sunday, December 13th.
joe rogan
If you can, make it live, though.
unidentified
Go live.
joe rogan
It's so fun to see live.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan
It's such an exciting format.
It really changes grappling by adding that element of putting them in bad positions after it's over.
It's so awesome.
eddie bravo
So far, people are digging it, man.
brendan schaub
So far, the first four shows have just gotten tremendous reviews.
unidentified
Yeah, everyone loves it.
brendan schaub
Everyone loves it.
eddie bravo
You know, it's kind of hard to have a bad show.
I mean, it could happen, but when you have 16 black belts, and it's a tournament, and you see, it's like UFC 2. Yeah, yeah.
It's kind of hard to fuck that up.
brendan schaub
Man, it's hard.
eddie bravo
With Cummings in there?
Everyone's fucking worried about his leg locks and he's right there gonna fucking chainsaw his way to the finals?
Probably, you know, but he's got to get through Javi, Hani, and then, you know, there's Rafael Domingos.
He's a Damien Maia prodigy.
Ruben Alvarez, another leg lock.
He's an East Coast leg lock.
He's from Florida.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
eddie bravo
Yeah, he fucks people up.
Man, and then Kim Terra, Kyle Terra's brother's in it.
Nathan Orchard.
Fuck, man.
It's going to be crazy.
joe rogan
Sunday.
December 13th.
BudoVideos.com.
eddie bravo
BudoVideos.com slash EBI5. And the first four are available at YouTube.
The live show's obviously a pay-per-view.
We're giving out last show.
Eddie Cummings won it.
And he got $20,000.
And that was a 145-pound division.
brendan schaub
That usually doesn't happen at 145. All the money goes to the winner.
eddie bravo
It's winner take all.
So we have to do pay-per-view.
And about a month later, a month and a half, two months later, I put it on YouTube and let everyone watch it.
joe rogan
So VIP Front Row is available, reserved in general admission.
Like I said, If you're in town, and you're free that day, you really should go and see it live.
Especially if you're a fan of jiu-jitsu at all, you'll see the most exciting format of jiu-jitsu.
Wild ass fucking fights.
And when these fights go to a draw, and then they put them in bad positions at the end, it gets fucking nuts.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's nuts.
joe rogan
So fun.
It's such a great idea.
Such a smart, smart way.
eddie bravo
Just trying to make it fun.
brendan schaub
Good for you.
unidentified
Very smart.
eddie bravo
Just trying to make it fun, you know?
unidentified
Entertaining.
eddie bravo
You know?
We got big things planned.
EBI 6 is going to be in Mexico City.
That's going to be a $50,000 grand prize.
Absolute division.
brendan schaub
Damn, son.
eddie bravo
Mexico City.
brendan schaub
Boom.
unidentified
Mexico?
eddie bravo
My bad's going international?
We're going to have a Rio Trials.
Rio de Janeiro Trials for that in February and then Sao Paulo.
We're going to go to Rio, have trials.
brendan schaub
Sao Paulo, have trials.
International, son.
eddie bravo
Yeah, this is going to be...
God damn.
It's going to be nice.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
eddie bravo
One of the guys that's co-producing this from Tel Avisa, which is a huge network in Latin America.
joe rogan
I like how you said that.
eddie bravo
Me too.
joe rogan
Tel Avisa.
Ay, ay, ay.
unidentified
Tamas tus huevos.
Yeah.
I got that Spanish accent down.
brendan schaub
Hijo de la Fregada.
joe rogan
So that's it folks.
This fucking thing's over.
Good fights.
Real good fights.
Next time we talk it'll be post post Aldo and McGregor and Weidman and Rockhold and Yoel Romero and Jacare and Max Holloway and Jeremy Stephens and Damian Maia and Gunnar Nelson.
Good shit!
Fucking googly-boogly!
brendan schaub
Insane.
joe rogan
Alright, Ben Saunders MMA. Ben will be fighting on the January card on Fox Sports 1 against the lovely and talented Pat Cote.
Brendan Schaub, you might know him as the fighter from the Fighter and the Kid podcast, storming through the ranks of iTunes, kicking ass all over the world for their live shows.
Be there, he'll sing Big Dick Bandits while looking deep into your eyes.
brendan schaub
Get your West Coast tour tickets now!
DFATK.com, son.
joe rogan
Plenty of gear, including mugs.
He's an official fighter in the kid.
Mugs and t-shirts.
Lots of different t-shirts that Chael Sonny keeps jacking.
brendan schaub
Keeps jacking your shirts.
joe rogan
He's devious.
brendan schaub
That's how you know you're doing something right.
joe rogan
He's smart.
eddie bravo
On YouTube, EBI5 Countdown Show.
Watch that right now.
joe rogan
Boom.
That's it, folks.
See you soon.
Much love.
Bye-bye.
unidentified
Peace.
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