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June 21, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - June 20, 2015
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brendan schaub
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bryan callen
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joe rogan
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tony hinchcliffe
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joe rogan
Companion Podcast.
If you've never heard one of these podcasts before, don't expect us to even pay attention to the fights.
Sometimes we do and sometimes we go and think, oh great, Joe's going to do commentary.
Nope, Brendan's not doing commentary, Calen's not doing commentary.
bryan callen
I will do commentary because I know nothing about the fights.
joe rogan
He'll pretend that he is giving strategy advice that wouldn't really work.
bryan callen
Exactly.
joe rogan
But what we do is we watch the fights and you can sync it up.
Right now, it's the first fight Who is this?
This is Hine and...
Boy, try saying this name.
bryan callen
Is that Hine?
joe rogan
Nick Hine versus Lukasz Szczewski.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Szczewski.
bryan callen
There he is.
There's Lukasz Szczewski, who's my favorite fighter who ends in a ski.
There he is.
joe rogan
This is the first fight on the main card.
bryan callen
Who's that guy there?
joe rogan
The guy on the left.
Fabulous Viking character with tattooed thumbs.
bryan callen
It's a great look.
He's not tall.
brendan schaub
Tattooed thumb.
joe rogan
He's got tattooed thumbs.
He's built a little like me.
Running out there is Lucas.
So, like I said, we might talk about this fight, or it might be diarrhea talk.
bryan callen
Maybe.
brendan schaub
You never know.
joe rogan
Sex drugs and podcasts.
Is that your new shirt?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Nice.
Fighter and the Kid, killing it.
bryan callen
Thank you to Brendan Schaub, our designer, our chief designer.
joe rogan
Fighterandthekid.com.
bryan callen
I go like this.
He asks me my opinion.
I go, I don't know, maybe.
And he goes, oh, I'm not asking your opinion, just showing them to you.
And I just don't hear back from him.
I'm like, I have an opinion.
brendan schaub
I said you have the fashion sense of Anne Frank.
Literally, I was dead serious in the email.
bryan callen
That's a very interesting Holocaust reference.
I was very surprised.
brendan schaub
Because you can't see what she's wearing.
Very similar to you.
bryan callen
Well, no.
Now you're confusing Anne Frank with Helen Keller.
brendan schaub
That's right.
bryan callen
Unfortunately.
brendan schaub
Damn, I said Helen Keller.
bryan callen
Why did you have to go there?
unidentified
Why do I have to go there?
brendan schaub
We're doing so well.
bryan callen
Ah, shit.
joe rogan
Anne Frank would be great if you were wearing camo in an attic.
bryan callen
Right, and exactly.
And Frank.
unidentified
And that's it.
bryan callen
I knew you were thinking of how it goes.
brendan schaub
You knew what I meant, though.
bryan callen
And I should have just kept my mouth shut, but the problem is Anne Frank, though, it would work with Anne Frank because she probably wore just one dowdy dress because she had to live in an attic for a year.
joe rogan
Damn, Hind is ripped.
bryan callen
No, he's a big kid.
joe rogan
The kid's in good shape.
bryan callen
Yes, he is.
brendan schaub
Roger Werther in his corner.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He's a tiger Muay Thai guy.
bryan callen
He was also a policeman.
joe rogan
Tiger Muay Thai apparently is just a fucking banging gym over in Phuket, Thailand.
They just have an amazing camp there.
There's a couple camps down now.
A.K.A. has a big camp there.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Mike Swick's down there, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, Mike Swick.
brendan schaub
And that's Soul Hulk.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I wonder why Mike Swick decided to move his camp to Thailand.
Oh shit, Tony Hanks could see you.
bryan callen
I didn't know this.
What a surprise.
unidentified
What's up, brother?
tony hinchcliffe
What's up, man?
brendan schaub
What's going on?
joe rogan
Good to see you.
bryan callen
A nice surprise.
joe rogan
Tony, why don't you lock us in, since you're the last one in, so no one comes in here looking for...
brendan schaub
I think for Swick it's a business decision, right?
Like he was gonna open a gym and then...
joe rogan
But why Thailand?
I mean, he has a family.
I don't know why the fuck he decided to go to Thailand.
brendan schaub
I forgot he had a family.
I thought he was like wiling out on the girls and the big gyms.
That sounds fun.
bryan callen
Phuket I hear amazing things about.
That's what I hear.
And when I shot a little movie called Hangover 2, all the stunt guys and most of the just tough guys around were all professional or aspiring professional Muay Thai guys who spoke, I think, a little bit about training in Phuket.
joe rogan
Yeah, that area, like I said, it's got those two gyms, and it's supposed to be a really cool tourist area, too.
It's supposed to be beautiful.
bryan callen
It's spelled P-H-E-T, which would be fuck it.
joe rogan
Tony motherfuckin' Hitchcliff.
Lightin' bitches on fire last night at the Comedy Store, then shows up for the Fight Companion.
bryan callen
Funny man.
joe rogan
Cause he's in love with Joanna Jerk-A-Dick.
How do you say it?
brendan schaub
I'd say Jerk-A-Dick.
I took some meat for that, too.
unidentified
Did you?
Oh, yeah.
Jerk-A-Dick.
From who?
brendan schaub
From the boss?
No, fans.
bryan callen
I thought about correcting it when you did it on the podcast.
joe rogan
You barely have a boss right now, by the way.
Get used to that.
It's a great feeling.
bryan callen
Oh boy.
joe rogan
But if you say jerk a dick in front of Tony, he might get upset.
tony hinchcliffe
I get a little offended.
We've been over this.
I wish we could respect Johanna.
bryan callen
I do.
brendan schaub
She's the best in the world.
joe rogan
Well, maybe you should know how to say her fucking name before you tell people to respect her.
tony hinchcliffe
Yenjecek.
joe rogan
Johanna.
Not Johanna.
bryan callen
Johanna.
And how do you say her last name?
tony hinchcliffe
Yenjecek?
Yenjecek.
bryan callen
Yenjecek.
tony hinchcliffe
I like that.
Yenjecek.
joe rogan
The way she has it, there's like a little bit of an ooh in there.
It's Yenjecek.
unidentified
I just call her J.J. Her friends call her J.J. Have you ever forgotten?
brendan schaub
Do they call her J.J.? No, I made that up.
joe rogan
Oh, you should.
That's good.
brendan schaub
J.J. is good.
Oh, you're talking about J.J., the champ J.J.? He's G.S.P. Marketing.
joe rogan
It's not even tough to say George St. Pierre, and everybody was saying G.S.P. It's too long.
bryan callen
Have you ever, when you are not calling fights, do you ever...
joe rogan
Good God.
bryan callen
Guys, guys.
Seriously, guys.
joe rogan
Okay, first fight is about to start.
If you're going to sync this up, I'll let you know right when they touch gloves.
Now they touch gloves.
So the clock right now, the moment they show the clock, we'll let you guys know so you can sync it up.
bryan callen
We call this feeling the guy out.
4.48.
joe rogan
4.47, 4.46, 4.45.
Okay, so there you go.
Now you're synced up.
Because the internet runs about 10 seconds at least behind, depending on where you are.
The Ustream feed will run about 10 seconds behind.
brendan schaub
Great tan on that guy.
Can you tell he trains in Thailand?
joe rogan
Lucas is going after it.
Yeah, you can't help it.
bryan callen
He's got the kind of skin that smolders.
joe rogan
Isn't it interesting that tan like that is actually good for your body and your endurance and the way you're...
Your body makes muscle.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's anabolic.
You know, vitamin D, and your production of vitamin D, it aids in the anabolic process.
That's why a lot of fighters get tans.
brendan schaub
I do.
joe rogan
Steve Maxwell told me that.
Yeah, but you were just a sexy bitch.
bryan callen
I would get tanned because I'm vain.
unidentified
Thanks, man.
Oh, I'd get tanned because I'm very vain.
joe rogan
And you don't mind wrinkles?
bryan callen
No, me, no.
brendan schaub
On the face.
joe rogan
You like that fucking leathered old look.
bryan callen
Well, I do dye my beard.
My sister looked at me the other day and she goes, Ooh, your face looks like it needs lots of water.
joe rogan
Your sister's mean.
bryan callen
She's hilarious, but mean.
joe rogan
She's very smart.
bryan callen
Yes, she is.
Yes.
You guys get along very well.
joe rogan
We did.
We got along great at your daughter's party.
bryan callen
Yes.
joe rogan
I clung to your sister.
bryan callen
My sister is one of those...
She's pretty amazing that way.
joe rogan
She's very smart.
Got a smart family.
bryan callen
And not sentimental either.
joe rogan
Good.
bryan callen
Yeah.
I said, do you get hormonal when you have your period?
She goes, no.
And that annoys me.
I remember when she was younger.
I was like, whoa.
She doesn't have a lot of girl energy.
joe rogan
I bet your sister got along with Patty great.
I knew it.
bryan callen
Very well.
joe rogan
Call everybody pussies.
unidentified
Yep.
brendan schaub
Jesus, that's too intense, man.
That's too intense.
bryan callen
Kathleen is not...
brendan schaub
I don't like when girls talk like that, man.
joe rogan
Those girls are scary.
bryan callen
Yeah, my sister's not sentimental.
unidentified
Fucking pussy!
Whoa!
Whoa!
bryan callen
She's not romantic or any of that stuff.
brendan schaub
Easy, bitch.
Simmer down, bitch.
joe rogan
Someone's gonna make you swallow your teeth.
bryan callen
My sister used to have an eye for weakness.
Like, if she saw a guy with what she called a weak chin, or if somebody was sleeping with their mouth open, God help you.
She'd be like, we'd be on a plane, and she'd go, look at that guy with his mouth open.
What a weakling.
I was like, come on, man.
He's just sleeping.
His jaw's hanging open.
She's like, that's annoying.
joe rogan
That's your dad's barbarian genes.
bryan callen
Yes.
She's all my...
I call her.
The joke is I look at her and I go, Daddy?
Oh, I mean Kathleen?
They look alike.
brendan schaub
That's not good.
bryan callen
No.
She's got bigger bones.
She was the husky one.
I was the frail kid.
brendan schaub
You wish you had your sister's genes?
bryan callen
Dude, I would get cold really easily.
I had no...
I was so skinny and my sister was like, what are you cold for you, baby?
brendan schaub
She has a full set of hair on her, too.
bryan callen
Yeah, she does.
joe rogan
Well, chicks don't usually go bald too often.
bryan callen
Right, Brendan.
joe rogan
Brendan, I don't know if you know that.
bryan callen
She's not suffering from male pattern baldness.
brendan schaub
Well, we're talking about her like she's a fucking warlock.
I'm just saying she has a nice set of hair on her.
joe rogan
She also has a little dick.
brendan schaub
She does have a tiny dick.
bryan callen
Tiny cock.
brendan schaub
Huge balls.
joe rogan
That was a nice transition there by Hein, recognizing that that knee is coming, kind of telegraphed that knee, now right at the back, but give up the position.
bryan callen
Small, small, small arms, his short arms and legs.
joe rogan
Give up the position.
He's very muscular.
He sets a rare look these days.
brendan schaub
For sure, get your hands off the face.
joe rogan
In the lighter and lighter weight classes, guys are becoming less and less muscular.
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Well, because we got Kawajiri and Seaver on the card tonight.
Two guys that were real thick for their weight class.
It's just super rare.
brendan schaub
Wait till this drug testing kicks in.
Everyone's gonna look like Gumby and shit.
joe rogan
You're not joking.
brendan schaub
Two Kermit the Frogs fighting.
joe rogan
You're not joking.
It's very, very weird what's going on here.
Because the UFC is deciding to do it on their own.
They're deciding to clean up the sport on their own.
But...
It's an inherently dirty sport.
brendan schaub
But they're not part of it, right?
They're handing it off to the UFC. They can't tell them who to test.
They're just saying, all right, you guys do it strict as fuck.
We're just going to stay out of it.
bryan callen
They're telling the commission to do that.
joe rogan
No, it's not a commission.
brendan schaub
It's not a commission.
joe rogan
They're bringing in WADA. They're bringing in the people that busted BALCO. The strictest drug testing in the world.
bryan callen
And they're going to have it year-round, right?
joe rogan
They're going to do it randomly, all year-round.
Five random tests a year.
They show up at your house, 3 o'clock in the morning.
Brian, get up.
bryan callen
God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You ain't?
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, the problem with that is...
brendan schaub
You're not waking me up.
Good luck getting through security, son.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Hashtag rich.
joe rogan
They're getting...
unidentified
They're getting so obnoxious.
I love it.
It's so obnoxious.
I'm rich, bitch.
joe rogan
They're getting guys that are, you know, like in the middle of your sleep cycle, you're fucking up their whole day.
If you could fuck up a couple days of training, they could take a shot and maybe they wouldn't have taken if you'd done that.
You know, I mean, they might be slower in the gym because You're going to get a piss.
brendan schaub
I'm going to piss on your face.
You're waking me up at 3 in the morning.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't want to make it so that you can cycle it.
You can get, apparently, Alex Rodriguez.
By the way, this scientific analysis is brought to you by Joey Diaz who told me about this.
Take it with a grain of salt.
unidentified
Dog, they got these fucking gummy bears.
Alex Rodriguez was taking gummy bears.
He would take them, and they would test.
By the time he knew exactly when to take these fucking things, so that when they were going to test them, it would be out of his system.
brendan schaub
No, he's right.
unidentified
A fucking gummy bear.
brendan schaub
He's right.
He would do it during the game.
By the end of the game, if they test them, it's out of his system.
joe rogan
How is that possible?
brendan schaub
I have no idea.
I wish I had the fucking scientist, but...
joe rogan
Is that still possible?
Could someone get those to Vitor?
unidentified
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
Like yesterday.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was that the weirdest transition of bodies?
Vitor between Luke Rockhold and Vitor fighting Weidman.
It's like, what the fuck happened?
brendan schaub
Or Overeem.
joe rogan
No, but Overeem still looks like a stud.
Like, Overeem is smaller than he used to be, but he still looks like a stud.
Vitor looks deflated.
brendan schaub
I agree.
He looks deflated.
joe rogan
Like someone stole his meat.
brendan schaub
But Overeem, when he fought Brock Lesnar, I was like, holy fuck, you need to beat Brock's ass.
joe rogan
Brian, shut that shit off.
bryan callen
Whoa!
joe rogan
What the hell?
brendan schaub
Guys, I'm sorry.
You beat Brock's ass and then just walk on over to the fucking Orleans Casino and win the Mr. Olympia.
He could do both.
He was fucking jacked.
I watched it and I was like, oh fuck, I need to find a different career.
joe rogan
Or a different doctor.
bryan callen
Or a different doctor.
Can I ask you guys, I watched the Kimbo Slice-Ken Shamrock fight, and Ken had him completely stretched out with a full choke.
joe rogan
I gotta tell you right now, that fight looked fake as fuck.
bryan callen
That's what I was going to think.
Literally, that's what I thought.
joe rogan
There's a couple things I don't like about that fight.
I don't like that clinch.
That long clinch that they had where they were mouth to ear.
They were mouth to each other's ears for a long fucking time.
brendan schaub
And no one was really striking.
Like, if you're Kenny and you're a wrestler, I'm popping those elbows and fucking taking me down.
joe rogan
How about the fact that when Ken did take him down, he never hit him once.
How about that?
He never hit him.
He had him down.
He had him flattened out.
He had his back, and he's not crashing him.
He's not blasting him with punches.
He's got him flattened out, and he's not hitting him.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
unidentified
He also had a full choke.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know, but he's also...
joe rogan
51. That's true.
And a fighter 51. That's true.
You're 100% correct.
brendan schaub
And I watched everyone, right?
I watch all of Bellator.
I watch all UFC. I watch everything.
So the Bellator, when the entrances, I was like, this is so dope.
It was kind of like the pride and all that.
Then I was on board.
You had Big Brown on board.
But then when Ken Shamrock walked out, I was like, what the fuck is going on?
joe rogan
How about the girl who was singing?
What was that about?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
See, I'm down with that, though.
joe rogan
You're down with a girl singing?
brendan schaub
I would love for Brian to sing for me when I walk out.
bryan callen
He's a man.
He's really tall and brown.
I'm not a good singer.
brendan schaub
No, not like that.
unidentified
Tall and brown.
He's got great hair and a part inspired by the great Gatsby.
tony hinchcliffe
That would crush so hard.
unidentified
Big brown.
brendan schaub
See, I'm more with this.
unidentified
Big brown.
Yeah.
bryan callen
He's big brown.
joe rogan
Big brown.
unidentified
He's got a big body.
tony hinchcliffe
You could totally get an opponent's head, by the way, when he's laughing at your entrance.
bryan callen
That'd be sick.
unidentified
He's gonna punch this guy in his big fat face and take him down.
bryan callen
Be careful of his game.
brendan schaub
No, I don't want a West Side Story thing going in.
unidentified
Yeah, Brian's gonna have him.
joe rogan
I'm gonna be taking serious.
bryan callen
His jiu-jitsu is second to none.
He's really handsome.
unidentified
That doesn't even rhyme.
bryan callen
He can turn on a nun.
unidentified
Turn on a nun.
Wow.
bryan callen
Dude, don't ever play with me.
joe rogan
You didn't even try.
unidentified
No.
bryan callen
No, I didn't.
brendan schaub
But Shamrock came out, I think his whole family was behind him.
joe rogan
Yeah, what's up with the girl with the daughter or son?
brendan schaub
And then kids behind him.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had a girl that was with him.
Was his granddaughter or something?
I don't know.
I was on board till that.
tony hinchcliffe
It was very WWF, the entrances.
joe rogan
To me, the whole thing, the entrance looked so suspect because he was shaking everybody's hand.
It didn't look like he was about to go to a fight.
I agree.
He was about to go put on a performance.
brendan schaub
He didn't look nervous.
And if you watch Kimbo fight when he was in the UFC, when he was fighting like Mitrione or Houston Alexander, that motherfucker's taking it serious.
Now when he fought Ken Shamrock, he's talking to him in the ring before the entrance.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
No, no, no.
The baddest motherfuckers on the earth really don't talk like that.
joe rogan
But they might have told them that this is the way to generate interest in this fight.
To hype it up, all the fake bad blood.
Like...
And then the other thing that got me was the way Kimbo stopped Shamrock, that was real as fuck.
I mean, he definitely cracked him.
bryan callen
His eye was fucked up.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
So, maybe they made an agreement and Kimbo said, I'm going to punch this motherfucker anyway.
unidentified
Yeah, he's like, I'm going to blast this dude.
bryan callen
But he did have him completely stretched out with what looked like a full rear naked choke.
Am I wrong about that?
joe rogan
He sort of, but he never went behind the head.
Like, he choked him, but he had it like on top of the head in some sort of a weird way.
brendan schaub
It was weird, man.
Kimbo was able to just keep grabbing that.
It's hard to choke that with one arm unless you're, I mean, you gotta be a real motherfucker.
joe rogan
You gotta be a monster.
brendan schaub
But Kimbo just kept grabbing the one arm, which is the right move to do, but I don't know, man.
bryan callen
Hmm.
joe rogan
It was disturbing to me how easy Kimbo shook Ken off his back.
Like, there was a lot of shit that I didn't like about it.
brendan schaub
Other than that, it was dope.
And did you see their next card?
They're doing a doublet.
joe rogan
They're doing glory and fucking MMA. I love it.
brendan schaub
I'm on board.
Your boy Schilling's fighting daily on that.
joe rogan
I don't know if he's fighting Daly, but they're both fighting on the car.
brendan schaub
Oh, I thought he was fighting Daly.
joe rogan
If he's fighting Daly, Daly's in fucking trouble.
brendan schaub
Super trouble.
joe rogan
He's in trouble.
bryan callen
Yes.
joe rogan
Because Joe Schilling is a tall motherfucker who can crack, and he's been in there with the best kickboxers in the world.
brendan schaub
And Daly...
joe rogan
Yeah, Daly's really good kickboxing for MMA. But then again, Daly's got that fucking ridiculous nuclear left.
unidentified
Left?
brendan schaub
Yeah, but you don't think Joe Schilling's seen better striking?
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, he knocked out Manhood.
brendan schaub
Yeah, come on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
He knocked out Mannhoff.
Mannhoff was so scary to me.
The way he kicks him.
I can't imagine fighting him like that.
brendan schaub
It was MMA though when he KO'd him, yeah.
bryan callen
Watching those kickboxing fights where it's just kickboxing with Mannhoff, he's so devastating for a while there.
brendan schaub
He used to be, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Schilling knocked out fucking Simon Marcus with one punch after they had gone to war for four rounds.
And that was the first guy to ever beat Marcus.
Marcus was undefeated like 39-0.
brendan schaub
Because it went to a draw, right?
And then they...
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
They had to go to the next round.
And the reason why it went to a draw...
unidentified
Think about that.
joe rogan
Simon had dropped him.
Simon had dropped Joe Schilling.
But then Joe Schilling had come back and won some...
Like, it was...
The way they do it at Glory is the old K-1 way, where if they go three rounds, and then if it's a draw, they go to the fourth and final round.
Tiebreaker.
brendan schaub
That's a motherfucker.
That'll fuck your mind up.
joe rogan
Well, how about the fact that he had to fight two more times after that?
brendan schaub
That night?
joe rogan
The same night.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yes, he had to fight fucking Wayne Barrett, who's a bad motherfucker.
Super bad motherfucker.
He had to fight him after that, and then he had to fight Artem Levin in the fucking finals.
bryan callen
This is all just striking.
Yup.
joe rogan
Kickboxing is so dangerous though.
That was a pretty good payday, I'm sure.
tony hinchcliffe
I hope.
joe rogan
But he was just talking about how sore he was.
Like for days, he had to sleep in an easy chair.
Every time he'd get up, he'd be like, his arms wouldn't bend.
Everything was fucked up.
bryan callen
Just from getting hit and blocking.
tony hinchcliffe
Three fights in one day?
bryan callen
That's crazy.
joe rogan
He fought ten rounds.
Ten rounds against three different opponents.
tony hinchcliffe
I did four sets the other night.
I thought that was hard.
bryan callen
Can I be honest with you?
You're looking a little more vascular, and I appreciate it.
tony hinchcliffe
You like that?
unidentified
He's lifting weights.
tony hinchcliffe
See that right there?
joe rogan
I got the kid lifting.
tony hinchcliffe
I'm the strawweight.
Death Squad strawweight.
brendan schaub
You started Death Squad strawweight.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
When we were in Canada, the kid saw us with our shirts off and decided to start lifting.
That's right.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, Brian and Joe switched shirts.
unidentified
Really?
tony hinchcliffe
Actually, it was to rep you.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was your inspiration.
brendan schaub
Oh, nice.
tony hinchcliffe
So, all three of you played a part in it.
brendan schaub
Nice, man.
It started working out.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I had to.
joe rogan
Yeah, you saw the kid with his fucking shoulder.
tony hinchcliffe
I saw that.
bryan callen
You saw that.
tony hinchcliffe
It made me, like, really sad.
brendan schaub
Rogan's pretty jacked.
bryan callen
Rogan's very thick.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
bryan callen
Rogan's a lot thick.
joe rogan
I looked at myself and I was like, oh.
I need shoulder surgery.
I have a torn labrum.
I hope I don't need to.
brendan schaub
That's a bitch, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it clicks and it makes more...
You know, the problem is it's been bugging me for a year.
And for a year I've just been pushing through it.
bryan callen
Because you're an extremist.
I'm so moderate.
I always...
Stop, Joe.
joe rogan
I'm definitely not there.
brendan schaub
No, I called Brian the other night.
I'm like, where you at, man?
He's like, emergency room, bro.
I've got a sore throat right now.
What's the emergency room?
I'm not making this up.
unidentified
I swear to God.
brendan schaub
He's like, I'm in the emergency room, man.
You see a white spot?
That could be cancer.
joe rogan
I'm like, bro.
That's a white spot again?
That same thing?
bryan callen
No, no, no.
On my dingleberry, it was a white spot, and I was like, oh, that's cancer.
joe rogan
The same white spot or a new one?
bryan callen
No, no, it was the same one.
And I go, that's cancer.
And a guy looks at my thing, and he goes, I was so convinced, and he goes, huh.
I go, what?
He goes, He's like, that's wild.
I go, what is it?
He goes, where were you?
I said, I was in Costa Rica.
He goes, oh, I used to work in a clinic down there.
You probably have something from there.
Probably just a self-limiting virus.
By the way, gone the next day.
I think it was food on my tonsil.
brendan schaub
It's embarrassing, man.
joe rogan
He probably ate a chocolate donut with powdered sugar on it or some shit.
bryan callen
I'm a hypochondriac.
joe rogan
Powdered sugar got in a little thing.
brendan schaub
You're that guy.
Oh, eye pokes.
joe rogan
I fucking hate them.
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Meanwhile, your sister has spots all over her fucking tongue and doesn't do shit about it.
joe rogan
The bitch doesn't give a fuck.
bryan callen
She eats grass.
joe rogan
Chews up some grass.
unidentified
She's got green mouth syndrome.
joe rogan
Foamy green bubbles in the corner of her mouth.
bryan callen
Are you chewing that cut again?
unidentified
Shut the fuck up, pussy.
joe rogan
Look at you with your mouth open.
bryan callen
You don't have forced stomachs.
Stop chewing cubs.
brendan schaub
It takes a special type of dude to be with a girl like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not one of those guys.
brendan schaub
I am.
I tried it.
I am not that guy.
joe rogan
I've tried it, too.
I like women who are women.
brendan schaub
Me, too.
joe rogan
Like, women who want to argue with you and they get fucking gangster with you.
That's not interesting to me.
bryan callen
That's like when I had a little affair with a girl on the national Canadian water polo team who was so hot, but her back was thicker than mine, and her hands, her knuckles, when we'd hold hands, I was like, well, your hands are a little, just a smidge bigger than mine, and I have a big problem with that.
tony hinchcliffe
See, that's what I love about my girlfriend, Ioana, is that she doesn't start any drama or talk shit, but she could.
brendan schaub
She knows her role.
bryan callen
She'll finish it.
joe rogan
She uses it all up, giving chicks concussions.
brendan schaub
She's exhausted by the time she gets to you.
tony hinchcliffe
She's very feminine.
bryan callen
I want to see you guys stay.
joe rogan
Believe me.
If you guys fucked, you wouldn't have much say in it.
Tony, you lick pussy now.
Lick pussy.
No, come on.
Don't care if you're fucking tired.
unidentified
Come on.
tony hinchcliffe
She wouldn't be able to handle me, man.
joe rogan
You're tired.
Do you want to go to sleep?
bryan callen
I know why they call him the golden pony.
He's surprising.
He has a surprising dick.
joe rogan
It's good.
bryan callen
His dick is skinny.
Skinny like me, but he's surprising.
joe rogan
It's more of the ivory pony.
tony hinchcliffe
I'd give it to her good, guys.
I'm serious.
She'd have to put her hair up in cornrows just to do my thing.
joe rogan
I'd give it to her good, guys.
bryan callen
By the time you're done, her hair is...
unidentified
I was setting up for my cornrows joke.
brendan schaub
I would fucking give it to her, man.
joe rogan
That's how you know a guy's not laying the proper pipe.
tony hinchcliffe
I'm setting up for my cornrows lawn, guys.
brendan schaub
You're doing good, man.
joe rogan
Guys, you know how I do it, guys.
Like, looking for everybody to confirm.
Come on, guys.
unidentified
You know how it is, guys.
brendan schaub
I would fuck her good, fellas.
bryan callen
By the time I was done with her, she'd need a nap.
joe rogan
We haven't talked about this fight once.
bryan callen
Yeah, this guy, Sarge is actually getting the better of him right now.
tony hinchcliffe
There it is.
bryan callen
Hein is smart, man.
joe rogan
Hein is slick.
He's very aware of what's going on.
When the other guy is throwing shots and kicks, he's aware of where the angles are coming from.
He's capitalized a couple times on that.
bryan callen
He's cardio.
He hasn't stopped moving, man.
He is not tired.
joe rogan
Roger Wertz is a good fucking trainer, man.
He's apparently gonna fight again.
brendan schaub
Not in the UFC. No, he's fighting in 1FC. Yeah, he fought in 1FC. He lost.
His last fight, right?
Soccer kicked.
He got fucked up.
joe rogan
He fought 170, too.
And Roger's not even big for 155. Look at that.
bryan callen
Catching angles.
Look at that.
brendan schaub
Dude, you remember Roger when he was in the UFC and he was like the poster boy?
Everyone thinks Ronda was the first one on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
It's actually Roger Wertz, though.
bryan callen
Uh, I'm afraid this is my man over here is walking toward him, just straight toward him.
brendan schaub
And remember, because I think he beat, uh, I forget who he beat in that one.
joe rogan
He beat a lot of guys.
brendan schaub
But he was front kicking the guy and it was the front cover of Sports Illustrated.
But then he got too, like, big-headed.
And he was like, ah, I want to get paid, whatever, some crazy amount.
unidentified
He fucked up.
joe rogan
It's not just that he wanted to get paid, he started complaining about shit publicly.
I started complaining about the media duties and not getting paid for media duties, and it was like, what?
brendan schaub
That motherfucker disappeared.
joe rogan
He made a huge mistake.
brendan schaub
UFC said, do what?
That's cool.
Check this out.
Shelf ya for a nice young two years, and here's the worst matchup possible.
Here's Gray Maynard.
See ya.
Motherfuckin' went to Thailand.
Last time I saw him fighting, he was in a street fight in Texas.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was amazing, though.
brendan schaub
The dude hit a girl in a parking lot.
bryan callen
What?
brendan schaub
Yeah, and Roger worked a big-ass dude, and Roger worked a KO'd this dude in front of a crowd.
joe rogan
Football player.
Big football player.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He sucker punches this girl.
I don't know what happened, but this guy stepped up and sucker punched this girl, and Roger got in his face, and he goes, I'll knock you out too, motherfucker.
Roger takes his shirt off and just tees off on this guy.
It's like a goddamn action movie.
The camera pans to the guy, pans to Roger, moving towards the guy.
Next thing you know, there's like a scramble of people in front of him.
The dude's laid out, and Roger's soccer kicking him in the head.
brendan schaub
Big ass dude.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Big ass dude.
bryan callen
Did he get in trouble for it?
joe rogan
No, he got love from the whole world.
bryan callen
Fantastic.
joe rogan
How could he get in trouble for it?
That guy's a cunt.
brendan schaub
Roger's a good dude, man.
joe rogan
He's a very good dude.
unidentified
I love Roger.
brendan schaub
He's a great guy, really good guy.
joe rogan
He just had the wrong people in his ear.
brendan schaub
He was in Denver for a while, I remember training with us, and he was always just a fucking brawl, man.
joe rogan
His boy won.
Yeah, well, he's taken a lot of punishment in his career, man.
brendan schaub
He tried being an actor for a grip.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that was the thing he was dating, that Laura Preponchik.
brendan schaub
Yeah, from that 70s show?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I think she probably got in his head as well.
brendan schaub
She was like the first celebrity I saw.
I thought Roger was so cool.
bryan callen
Is that Tom Hardy?
joe rogan
I was like, oh, shit.
bryan callen
Is that Hardy?
joe rogan
That's Dan Hardy, not Tom Hardy.
unidentified
Goddammit!
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
brendan schaub
Fuck, man!
bryan callen
No, guys, he looks like Tom Hardy, though, because Tom is also playing a character like this, so...
unidentified
Here's Roger.
joe rogan
Look at that handsome bastard.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a fucking ladies man.
If I've ever seen one.
bryan callen
Kid's a stud.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he tried doing the whole acting thing and fighting.
joe rogan
They get you, man.
They get you.
Look at this Dan Hardy gave that dude the mic.
brendan schaub
Can't do that.
That's frowned upon.
Dan Hardy's gonna be slapped when he's in the back.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is this speech this guy is?
brendan schaub
You can't do this.
tony hinchcliffe
He's about to start a revolution of some kind.
brendan schaub
Shit, I'm on board.
joe rogan
Yeah, it sounds like Hitler and Mein Kampf.
bryan callen
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Jesus!
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
He even did the Hitler thing with his hand.
brendan schaub
This is intense.
This is some fight past shit.
unidentified
What is this guy saying?
brendan schaub
This is some fight past shit, man.
tony hinchcliffe
Grab the mic.
joe rogan
Yeah, take that mic, Dan Hardy.
brendan schaub
Show control.
unidentified
Who owns those?
bryan callen
Dan Hardy's just taller than I thought.
joe rogan
Dan Hardy's just giving them that mic.
bryan callen
Strange.
brendan schaub
I mean, that's a big no-no, right, Joe?
You can't do that.
joe rogan
You can on very rare occasions.
unidentified
I've done it before.
joe rogan
Guys that I trust.
tony hinchcliffe
It's fundamentally really hard to share a mic with anyone ever, when you're in control.
joe rogan
It's a different situation because when I'm doing interviews, I have no personality when I'm doing interviews.
My interviews are all about trying to get the most out of the fighter.
I just try to ask them a question and give them the opportunity to express themselves.
But I don't interject very much.
Most of what I do, I'll give them a little enthusiasm, tell them how exciting it was and how awesome it was.
But my goal, 100% while I'm doing interviews, is to try to get that guy to express himself.
When I've tried to give people advice, I've had a lot of guys ask me, like, what do you do?
How do I give interviews?
That's my scariest part.
A lot of these guys are real nervous about interviews because it's live, you don't know exactly what to say, and you're kind of ad-libbing it in the moment.
I'm like, the most important thing is it's not you.
It's not about you.
It's all about trying to get the most out of that guy.
This is his moment.
bryan callen
What he was thinking, how it feels to be a champion, all that stuff.
joe rogan
Is it surprising?
Give us your thoughts.
I want to know how a guy feels after this.
Because sometimes a guy will say, you know what, man, from the second round, my hand was broken.
And you don't know.
You have to ask, how do you feel?
What happened?
What was it like?
Was anything surprising?
brendan schaub
You can't give him the mic.
Don't give me the mic.
unidentified
I'm like, oh, God.
brendan schaub
TFATK.com.
Podcast, everyone.
bryan callen
Was your, were you surprised that the Cain Velasquez?
joe rogan
No, I was and I wasn't.
I wasn't surprised when I thought about it afterwards.
While it was happening, I was like, whoa, this is crazy.
But you can't just go up to 7,500 feet above sea level and expect to keep your cardio, especially when you haven't fought in two fucking years, man.
You just haven't fought.
brendan schaub
See, I think that's a good point.
You can't do that.
However, you don't become a multi-time world champ and not know that that's an issue.
I think his issues are way beyond that.
I think he realized that.
I think they could have fought in fucking L.A. at sea level and he would have looked like that.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I think Al Toot's a bad example.
You don't get to his level without assuming that.
I think it's a cop-out, I gotta be honest.
joe rogan
Wow, that's interesting.
So what do you think is going on?
Do you think Fabricio Verdum just got that much better?
Or do you think Kane is slipping?
brendan schaub
I think Verdum got that much better, and I think Kane has had damn near two years off, and he's taken a lot of punishment, man.
joe rogan
Good point.
brendan schaub
And with these injuries, it's not like...
You know how it goes, man.
When you have some injury, you can still work on stuff and continue to get better.
Two years off with surgeries and rehab...
Two years in MMA, UFC, the game's changing fast as fuck, man.
unidentified
It is.
brendan schaub
Like even now, I haven't fought since December.
If I fought this next December with a year off, the game's changed, let alone two years.
And then you're fighting a motherfucker in Verdum who's been active as fuck and getting better and better and better.
joe rogan
And he's tall, and he's got a long reach.
brendan schaub
And you don't want to take him down.
Enjoy that.
joe rogan
Exactly.
unidentified
So what do you want to do?
joe rogan
He took him down.
He got strangled.
I mean, that's what it was.
Which is actually better for him.
You know, he was getting fucked up on his feet.
He was about to get knocked out.
He was about to KO. On his feet against Verdum.
He was wobbling all over the place.
bryan callen
I would imagine if you were getting ready for Verdum and you came Velasquez, your coach says, never shoot a double leg.
Only a single leg.
No.
joe rogan
His coach was Javier Mendez, who, first of all, is a fantastic striking coach.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Doesn't have a background in grappling.
He's not a black belt in jiu-jitsu.
He's not some world-class grappler.
I don't think he's ever rolled with a guy like Fabricio Verdum.
If you never roll with a guy who has a fucking nasty guard like Verdum does, you don't know.
You can't take that guy down.
brendan schaub
You can, but you have to bring in a guy like Bouchesha to get you ready for Verdum, shoot a single leg on him, because they're going to do different stuff to get ahold of your neck.
If you shoot a single leg on a high-level guy, a jiu-jitsu guy, he's going to get a hold of your neck.
But you can pass and still take him down.
bryan callen
So better to shoot a single or a double?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Well, he left his head on the outside.
That was the problem.
brendan schaub
It has to be on the inside.
joe rogan
Your head has to be pinned to the chest if you shoot a double on a guy like Fabricio.
But Fabricio's guard is so fucking good.
Unless you bring in a Vinnie Magalese or someone who's got a commensurate guard, good luck being able to defend against that.
He doesn't have anybody like that in camp.
brendan schaub
That double leg was desperation.
You can see him exhausted.
Have you ever seen Kane shoot such a shitty double leg?
joe rogan
No, he was beaten down.
brendan schaub
He was just exhausted, and then, first of all, his technique was shit, right?
You see him over his hips, he leans, he like leans over.
joe rogan
How good is this fucking promo?
Turn this volume up, Jamie.
brendan schaub
Best promo ever.
joe rogan
This is an amazing fucking promo.
I'm so fucking pumped for this fight.
brendan schaub
I think me and Eddie got a grand on this fight.
unidentified
Hold on, hold on.
joe rogan
Do you guys bet a grand?
Who'd you bet on?
brendan schaub
Hold on, hold on.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
I'm rooting for Connor, though.
I love that guy.
joe rogan
Look at how he walks, even.
tony hinchcliffe
He's so cool.
joe rogan
He's such a cocky fuck.
brendan schaub
I love it.
joe rogan
This is such a great commercial.
This commercial, by the way, cost a million dollars.
tony hinchcliffe
Look at those eyes.
joe rogan
What a great fucking commercial.
God damn July 11th.
Hurry up and get here, please.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what wasn't cheap is using that Jay-Z song.
That probably got some $900,000 and then $100,000 to film that shit.
I'll do that shit for $20 right now.
tony hinchcliffe
Brian could have sang the song for that promo.
That would have been great.
bryan callen
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
Machida and Romero.
Are you around for that?
Are you in town?
bryan callen
I'm in San Francisco at the Punchline.
brendan schaub
No, no, no.
That's not next weekend.
bryan callen
June 27th.
joe rogan
Yeah, June 27th.
brendan schaub
This is June 27th?
joe rogan
Yeah, you and I. Next weekend is a 27th.
bryan callen
Me and Big Brown will be in...
joe rogan
You're there, too?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm there, too.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
brendan schaub
Business.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
bryan callen
Business.
joe rogan
What kind of business?
I don't know.
brendan schaub
For the podcast.
Sponsors.
joe rogan
What kind of business?
bryan callen
Some sponsor stuff.
Meeting with sponsors.
joe rogan
Rearrange that.
bryan callen
Hey, bro, I'm doing stand-up.
He wants to go see my work.
unidentified
No, he doesn't.
brendan schaub
I'm all set on that.
joe rogan
He's seen those jokes.
brendan schaub
I could go up and do your set.
joe rogan
Do you have a new set now that you've recorded your special?
bryan callen
I'm writing a bunch of new stuff now.
joe rogan
Let me ask you this about your special, which, by the way, was fucking so much fun to be at.
The only time I've ever opened up for a guy.
This is the only time I've ever warmed up a crowd in, like, I don't know, 15 fucking years.
I haven't gone on first on a show in 15 years.
It was weird.
It's weird to just go up like that.
You do it all the time, Tony.
There's a talent to getting the crowd going, getting into it.
It was fun.
bryan callen
Yeah, you did a great job.
joe rogan
But that room is fucking amazing for a special.
When I was backstage watching on the monitor, I was like, this is perfect.
This is the perfect room.
bryan callen
I loved it, and I love the stage.
I love the feel on the floor.
I feel so grounded.
joe rogan
Did they ask you to do...
Do you have more than one camera?
Like, how many cameras do you use?
bryan callen
Six cameras.
joe rogan
Six cameras?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
See, I was thinking, like, the one camera that they have when you work there, you know how you work there?
They make a film of every show.
And the one camera that they have when you work there is perfect.
It's like that one...
I've been watching specials lately, and one of the things that I've been coming to this conclusion is, like, you need one view of the show.
Like, head-on, like you're in the audience.
bryan callen
The way you watch it, right?
The way you kind of watch a show.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Do you think 20 cameras is overkill, Callan?
bryan callen
Six cameras.
joe rogan
Well, he had a guy with him that does hair who had a holster.
brendan schaub
That guy was dead serious.
joe rogan
Dead serious.
brendan schaub
For sure, relax.
bryan callen
I was just giving him a credit.
You know, he's a good guy.
joe rogan
Whatever.
brendan schaub
Giving him credit for a lot.
joe rogan
All those people were in the way.
They were in the way of thinking.
They were in the way of relaxation.
unidentified
It was too much.
brendan schaub
It was too much.
joe rogan
If it wasn't for Brendan and I, you probably wouldn't have been loose.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because we were back there busting those guys' balls.
That's right.
brendan schaub
That guy had on a Bentley belt.
unidentified
Yes.
bryan callen
A little too much.
joe rogan
He had a Bentley belt and a red Kango, backwards, of course, and a holster.
brendan schaub
And he looked Calum Wright in the eyes and was like, don't fuck this up.
tony hinchcliffe
See, you went out.
How long did you do?
bryan callen
I mean, by the years.
joe rogan
What did I do, like 20, 15, 20 minutes?
bryan callen
No, you did actually.
You did about 28, but it was great.
joe rogan
At least.
bryan callen
They loved it.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah!
bryan callen
It was very appropriate, and it was great.
brendan schaub
The thing we talked about...
bryan callen
They were so ready, too.
tony hinchcliffe
It's such a smart move to have a way overqualified opener for a special.
bryan callen
I mean, it's hilarious.
Joe Rogan opening for me.
tony hinchcliffe
I had Joey Diaz do mine at the Ice House.
brendan schaub
Jesus.
joe rogan
That's how you do it, man.
That's how you do it.
tony hinchcliffe
It was bloody murder.
See, the thing was, I go, Joey, I can only have you do 15, because if you do 21 minutes or longer, there's no way they're going to be able to listen to me for an hour.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and you have to be careful with that.
Like, you don't want to fucking, like, you know.
joe rogan
Burn them out.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
Burn people out.
brendan schaub
Like, are you going to have Kevin Hart open for you, Joe?
joe rogan
I've had three guys open for me before when I was filming a special.
brendan schaub
Fuck.
joe rogan
Is it too much?
Yeah, it was too much.
brendan schaub
And sometimes my face hurts.
joe rogan
Joey, Duncan, oh no, was it Joey, Ari?
Joey, Ari?
I think it was Joey, Ari, and Red Band did a set too.
Shit.
Yeah, it was ridiculous.
bryan callen
Two people.
One person.
joe rogan
Yeah, I didn't go on stage until an hour into the show, plus.
brendan schaub
Too much, huh?
bryan callen
For your special?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
In Atlanta.
bryan callen
But that with you, it's like, you know.
brendan schaub
Brian, you were worried because you were sweating so much.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You wouldn't shut up about your sweating.
bryan callen
The second show, they turned the heat off.
The air off.
joe rogan
Don't worry about it.
Just do a show like you're in a club.
unidentified
Yeah, no one gives a fuck.
joe rogan
If you were in a club, you wouldn't care, right?
If it was a set on the weekend, it wouldn't even cross your mind.
If it would cross your mind, there'd be something wrong with you.
bryan callen
No, I was just thinking about not being able to use the second take because the sweat was different on my shirt.
And by the way, don't wear a shirt like that.
brendan schaub
Don't wear a light blue shirt.
As soon as I walked in, I was like, God damn it.
bryan callen
I know.
I always knew to wear a black shirt.
joe rogan
The best was, in between shows, they're like, Brian, we have to fix the hair on the back of your head.
I'm like, no, you don't.
You don't have to fix his hair.
They're like, the back of his neck.
They're like, the back of his neck is popping up.
I'm like, no one is going to watch this fucking special and go, I thought he was funny until I saw an errant hair.
brendan schaub
His sweating just isn't funny.
unidentified
The back of his neck is just, the hair is unkempt.
bryan callen
He's so wet.
joe rogan
I just didn't like it at all.
bryan callen
I'm going to call it wet.
joe rogan
Get a look at this guy, Steve Kennedy, because that's what every UFC fighter's body is going to look like after drug testing becomes 100% implemented.
They're all going to look like Steve Kennedy.
brendan schaub
Can I just show up?
I look like Roy Nelson now.
God damn!
joe rogan
What happened to Brendan?
brendan schaub
What do you want me to do?
joe rogan
Yo, dude, fighterandthekid.com.
Shut the fuck up.
tony hinchcliffe
Is marijuana considered a...
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
No, you're good.
It's only the week of the fight.
joe rogan
Yes.
bryan callen
Oh, really?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Only the week of the fight.
bryan callen
So you can get caught smoking weed and you...
brendan schaub
They're not going to test you for weed unless it's the week of the fight.
bryan callen
Oh, I gotcha.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
But this is the question I have.
So you know how they say they're going to test you five times throughout the year?
So if I fight three, am I going to test it to eight or does that count as far as the five?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
That's a very good question.
I think they said five randoms throughout the year.
brendan schaub
So does it not count?
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
bryan callen
I doubt they can afford eight.
That's a lot of, you know, I mean...
They can afford it.
joe rogan
A couple things bum me out.
One of the things bums me out is that this is gonna cost a fuckload of money to go after, you know, all these different guys who are using performance enhancing drugs.
brendan schaub
Give the fighters that money.
joe rogan
Exactly!
That's what I was gonna say.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
I was gonna say that.
brendan schaub
Sorry.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It needs to be said, man.
It needs to be said.
tony hinchcliffe
Can you imagine if they started drug testing in stand-up comedy?
What would happen?
joe rogan
They would make sure that you were on weed.
They'd make sure you do on weed.
brendan schaub
You'd get suspended if you weren't using cocaine and marijuana.
Two years of suspension, bro.
joe rogan
They suspended you if you smoked pot because it made you too funny.
It's definitely a performance-enhancing drug when it comes to comedy.
I write all my best shit on weed.
By the way, I got these new vape pens.
Goddamn to the bomb diggity.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
Who makes them?
joe rogan
I'm a big fan of vape pens these days.
I don't know who makes them.
I don't read that shit.
bryan callen
Might have to start smoking some vape.
brendan schaub
I don't read that shit.
You just open them up.
joe rogan
Just open them up.
brendan schaub
Why don't you make your own?
Fuck other people's.
Don't want to get in that business?
joe rogan
That business is sneaky.
You've got to be real careful because it's federally illegal.
And when you make a shit ton of money and they can take it all away, and if you're like me and you like to talk a lot of shit, some things could get ugly.
brendan schaub
I'm getting there, my man.
joe rogan
People can get upset at you.
bryan callen
And they can find the fact that- And they'll make an example of you and all that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's one thing if you like to smoke a little weed personally, no big deal.
That makes sense.
But if you're selling it and making it- And you don't need to.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You don't need to get in that business.
joe rogan
It's also like a level of wealth that I'm not sure you really want to get to.
I'm not sure you want to get to a level of wealth where everyone knows you're worth a billion dollars and you have to drive around with fucking guards everywhere.
bryan callen
Oh Jesus.
joe rogan
Like whenever I look at Lorenzo Fertitta and he has these fucking former seals around him all the time with earpieces in him.
Does he?
unidentified
Fuck yeah, he does.
brendan schaub
You got way back getting kidnapped and fucking taking ransom and being a sex slave.
Wait, what?
joe rogan
The dudes that fucking guard Lorenzo Fertitta are legit as fuck.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, you look in their eyes and like, these are dudes that will kill you with a pencil.
bryan callen
100%.
brendan schaub
You know there's a service whether if you're gonna do like I don't know something like climb Mount Everest or do some crazy fucking kayak trip or go to Brazil you can pay a monthly fee and they will pick you up and rescue wherever you're at in the world.
There's only a certain like they won't go to Syria and they won't go to like Afghanistan but other than that anywhere in the world you're covered.
It's only like $175 a month some shit.
joe rogan
That's worth it?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
bryan callen
It's gotta be way more than that.
brendan schaub
No, no, it's not.
It's only more than that if you're doing some like crazy shit and you tell them ahead of time.
But it's a membership.
joe rogan
So what do you have to do?
Wear RFID chip?
brendan schaub
No, check it.
You have to have one of those satellite phones, like those big ass satellite phones.
Really?
Which is a small price to pay.
joe rogan
They're pretty small now.
We used one when we were in Montana hunting.
They're shrinking.
bryan callen
When are we doing another hunting trip?
joe rogan
Let's schedule it.
What do you want to kill?
brendan schaub
Let me shoot some shit, man.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
You want to get in?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
You know what we should do?
brendan schaub
I want to kill it with my hands, though.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
We should all go to Tohono Ranch and go shoot some pigs.
bryan callen
All right.
joe rogan
Because it's an hour and a half north.
bryan callen
That's great.
brendan schaub
I don't eat swine, but I'm down.
joe rogan
You don't eat swine?
brendan schaub
You don't eat pig?
No.
I'm just kidding.
I'll eat some bacon.
joe rogan
Well, they don't...
It's hard to get bacon because bacon really comes from an animal that's been overfed and fattened up.
The pigs...
Oh, that guy's lit up already.
brendan schaub
I'm not trying to eat a skinny pig.
bryan callen
He's got his...
joe rogan
Peter Sabato is coming after him, man.
bryan callen
Yeah, he doesn't...
His head goes up when he gets thrown.
His chin goes up.
joe rogan
But the pigs that you're going to get are going to be way leaner.
But the hams are fantastic.
brendan schaub
Why are these pigs in such good shape?
I don't like that shit.
joe rogan
They're wild as fuck.
bryan callen
I'm going to make a call right now.
I'm going to make a call right now.
This guy with red shorts is going to knock this guy out.
unidentified
They're black as fuck.
Black as fuck.
I don't want to eat black pig, man.
joe rogan
Every now and then you see a white spotted one or a brown one, but most of them are black.
brendan schaub
So you know what the difference between you and me is?
I want to make them my pets.
Bring it home.
joe rogan
I have pets already.
Thank you very much.
brendan schaub
You do have a shitload of pets.
joe rogan
I've got a few pets.
I've got chickens.
I've got cats.
brendan schaub
I'll shoot some shit.
Or I'll be like the dog.
You guys won't need one of those dogs.
I'll just point them out.
bryan callen
I remember when I was doing Kirstie Alley's TV show, I went to her house, and she had two blind lemurs, she had a shitload of chinchillas, a thousand dogs, cats, and she had a huge desert hair in the middle of her bedroom.
It was fenced in, and it couldn't use its back legs, so it had to drag itself around.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you, show how rich you are to people.
How many pets you have?
How much random-ass pets you have?
joe rogan
That's me carrying a bear out of the woods on my back for a shot with a bow in her hand.
unidentified
God!
brendan schaub
Damn, that is all man.
That is so manly.
bryan callen
That's all man.
joe rogan
In Alberta.
I ate that bear that night.
brendan schaub
Brennan has a burner.
You need to frame this.
bryan callen
Let me see that.
joe rogan
That's a 250 pound bear.
brendan schaub
See, if I was there, I'd be in the back, and here's Brennan in tears, just crying.
joe rogan
Just terrified.
I walked 200 yards through the woods over dead falls with that bear on my back.
bryan callen
That's crazy, bro.
brendan schaub
You know, one of you blew your goddamn shoulder up.
joe rogan
No, my shoulder didn't get hurt from that.
brendan schaub
How much did that thing weigh?
joe rogan
250. My shoulder was hurt from, more from, um, it's about, that bear's your size, motherfucker.
For real.
My shoulder was hurt from benching.
I think benching is really what I did it.
brendan schaub
Flat bench.
Very tough on your shoulders.
People don't realize that.
Is that right?
Incline bench, man.
Or dumbbells.
joe rogan
Oh, Sabata's got the rear naked and one arm trapped.
Wow, good move.
brendan schaub
Oh, this is over.
joe rogan
He's actually turning away from the choke, which is, you know, as long as you can really pin your neck down, It's a real crank right now though, that shit.
brendan schaub
No, he's free, man.
unidentified
Yeah, he's free.
joe rogan
Oh, now he's more wrapped up.
Now he's more wrapped up.
brendan schaub
Good position off the cage.
joe rogan
I love that body triangle, man.
That body triangle is so good.
brendan schaub
See, not in MMA. Really?
What are you going to transition to?
A blue belt can defend the rear naked choke with those giant gloves on.
So if you have a body triangle, you can't transition to anything.
joe rogan
But you can really sap a guy's will.
brendan schaub
I agree.
You can control his breathing.
joe rogan
Especially if you go belly down.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you could turn that guy and get him belly down with that body triangle, God, that's so nasty.
brendan schaub
Who he gots it?
joe rogan
Like Ken Shamrock had?
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Peter Sabato.
Bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Dean Lister in his corner.
That guy in the corner, you know that motherfucker.
joe rogan
Can't go wrong.
Dean Lister, been looking for his neck for the past six years.
brendan schaub
Just fucking monster.
unidentified
Can't find it.
joe rogan
It's just head, shoulders.
brendan schaub
Born for jiu-jitsu.
bryan callen
Man, I met him at Metamores.
I couldn't believe how thick he was.
That giant blockhead.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, Josh Barnett tapped him.
How about Josh Barnett?
Tapped him!
brendan schaub
Barnett is a motherfucker.
joe rogan
He's the best catch wrestler of all time.
brendan schaub
All time, hands down.
bryan callen
Really?
brendan schaub
So impressed with that.
joe rogan
Who's better?
He tapped Dean Lister, and he tapped Heron Gracie.
brendan schaub
First of all, people say Dean Lister's never been tapped out in training.
joe rogan
In 16 years.
brendan schaub
He's never been tapped out in training.
He's never been tapped out in competition.
Fucking, and he got tapped with like a nasty neck crank.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He got him in that judo headlock.
Fuck.
brendan schaub
Barnett's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
You see his next fight?
joe rogan
Who's he fighting?
brendan schaub
Roy Nelson.
Japan, son.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
I like it.
Not UFC or UFC? I like it.
brendan schaub
What'd you just say?
Not UFC or UFC? Of course it's UFC. Once you grab some bench, take a break.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
Do you understand what this sport is about?
brendan schaub
The fuck?
bryan callen
Of course it's the UFC! Hey guys, I don't know.
Look at Dean Lister.
I can't believe he's never been tapped in practice even.
That's ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Well, Josh Barnett said, oh, that's cool.
Check this out.
joe rogan
That was a slick move.
You see the way he set that rear naked up?
He made him defend one arm to set him up for the second one.
He turned away from the one arm into the second arm.
Sabata knows what the fuck he's doing, man.
It's almost like he fed him the one arm so that he would turn away from it and then slip the second one under the chin.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at that shirt either.
joe rogan
Very nice.
brendan schaub
Here's a little tip.
See, I saw Giggle.
I don't want to take heat for this, but bear with me here.
When Daniel Cormier, I saw him, he's the new light heavyweight champion, right?
And UFC's selling his shirts, and then as soon as July 1st kicks in, Reebok's gonna design his shirts.
If I'm Daniel Cormier, or I'm Conor McGregor, or Ronda Rousey, one of these megastars, why wouldn't you have your own website and create your own shirts and sell the fuck out of them and reap all your own benefits?
bryan callen
I don't know, you're speaking like a businessman.
joe rogan
You're a smart dude and you have the ambition to do that kind of stuff, but a lot of guys don't.
brendan schaub
Hire someone to do it.
joe rogan
You're right.
You're right.
How about you?
Why don't you do it?
Maybe that's a good side business for you.
bryan callen
Hello.
brendan schaub
I mean, I already got my own shit going on.
joe rogan
You fucking savage.
You got a little too much going on selling about 8,000 t-shirts in 20 minutes.
brendan schaub
I always text you right away.
Like, Joe, check it out, man.
joe rogan
They'll put up these shirts for sale and sell thousands in minutes.
And I'm thinking about the numbers.
Plus expenses.
Holy shit.
That's real, legit money.
brendan schaub
Nothing gets me more excited.
joe rogan
Oh, it's amazing.
brendan schaub
When they sell, I'm literally jumping around, sweating.
joe rogan
Well, when I was at Brian's taping, the fucking audience was filled with your t-shirts.
Everything was Fighter and the Kid.
I think you'd be surprised.
brendan schaub
I love it, man.
joe rogan
There's so many different shirts that wear in the audience.
It's amazing.
It's really cool.
brendan schaub
These July 4th ones dropping are so dope.
bryan callen
I love what you're wearing there.
joe rogan
Some American flag type shit.
brendan schaub
Red, white, and blue taints.
We got the Master Kim shirt, but in red, white, and blue.
It's so dope.
Awesome.
Anyways, good quality.
joe rogan
I like it.
tony hinchcliffe
Ooh, he handed in the mic again.
brendan schaub
I was telling you, Joe, I need some fucking primate Joe Rogan shirts.
I'm always rocking my own shirt.
I gotta be honest, I feel like a tool rocking my own shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know what you mean.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
You've never seen me wear my shirts, nor do I even talk about them.
That's a real problem.
I have a goddamn t-shirt company.
brendan schaub
I didn't even know.
joe rogan
I've only advertised it like three times.
bryan callen
But you do well with it.
joe rogan
Makes great money.
bryan callen
I see those all the time.
brendan schaub
I didn't even know you sold shirts.
I was like, hey, listen, this is what you gotta do, bro.
You gotta do this.
You're like, motherfucker, I've been selling shirts forever.
I'm like, oh, really?
tony hinchcliffe
I have no idea.
bryan callen
Regina Hamlet is a pretty boxer.
She whiz.
brendan schaub
She can box these nuts in her mouth.
joe rogan
That pussy's got teeth.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
She unboxes fat dicks.
bryan callen
Sir, she's a legit athlete.
brendan schaub
I don't care.
I love athletes.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, I sure would show her a good time.
joe rogan
Right, guys?
bryan callen
I sure would.
unidentified
Right, guys?
joe rogan
She pulls her pussy lips apart and brushes her teeth.
She gets a fucking one of those little water picks down there.
brendan schaub
Ah, man, I'll tell you what.
Struggle is real with girls.
bryan callen
What is her name, Regina?
joe rogan
It is.
brendan schaub
Struggle is so real.
I love girls, man.
It's a fucking curse.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they're better than dudes.
When it comes to having sex with them.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
There's a reason.
Opposites attract, alright?
brendan schaub
I know, but at what point are you just attracted to one?
You know what I'm saying?
It's a fucking curse.
Tony, you feel me.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a problem too.
Being attracted to one is very difficult.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I love all different kinds of women.
joe rogan
But then there's also...
Then there's also the problem of just getting along.
You know?
Everybody has a fucking different sensibility, man.
Men and women see things so goddamn differently.
brendan schaub
God, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Different goals.
Truly.
Different needs.
Different things that piss them off.
brendan schaub
You know what hurts my feelings is girls that I've dated before, and we've dated for years, even lived together, and now just because, whatever, we're not...
You know still intimate relationship.
We're not friends anymore, but you get us think about the time you not wasted But you spent all those years together.
Yeah to me.
joe rogan
I'm like no let's still be friends, but they can't do it man Some of them can't be but you can't be either Yeah, because you used to send it in there and shoot loads inside their body and they loved it Around you and they hug you and they feel your back wall of a pack They hug that back, and they feel that crease where the spine is, and the muscles wrap around the spine.
unidentified
It's a valley.
bryan callen
It's a muscle valley.
joe rogan
And Schaub does that thing where he lies on his back, and he puts the weight bar here, and he does those fuck exercises.
brendan schaub
I love that big job, too.
joe rogan
He puts them up on Instagram.
He's 405 pounds.
Fuck you.
Fucking sending it home.
Fucking...
bryan callen
One more set.
One more rep.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, Rampage's Trainer.
I follow Rampage's Trainer on Instagram.
It's a woman with an ass created by God himself.
bryan callen
What's her name, please?
joe rogan
Juliet something or another.
unidentified
I don't know her name.
brendan schaub
White girl?
joe rogan
Oh, good.
I mean, I guess.
brendan schaub
Sort of.
Her ass is retarded, dude.
joe rogan
It's retarded.
And she does 400 pounds with that exercise.
That same exercise as you.
Videos of it.
Videos of it.
Undeniable.
brendan schaub
How's the face, though?
joe rogan
She's pretty.
She's not ugly at all.
She's pretty.
But you don't even care.
brendan schaub
I'm going to slip on into them DMs.
joe rogan
Well, I think she's married and she has children.
brendan schaub
I've been there.
joe rogan
Her ass is ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
But she does that same thing.
She has like a yoga mat that she has rolled up next to the bench so she could pull it up here and she puts her elbows on the bench because she can't get under it.
She's not as strong as you to get under it.
But once she gets under it.
brendan schaub
It's on.
joe rogan
Let me find it.
I'll find it for you.
bryan callen
Yeah, let's find that.
I get dead serious.
I'm like, let's find it right now.
brendan schaub
Dude, sometimes you'll be on Instagram and you'll see a girl's ass, and I'll be like, God damn!
I don't care where I'm at.
It's so frustrating.
It's like seeing a dope-ass car.
joe rogan
Exactly.
And then I'll go to their fucking webpage, or I'll go to their Instagram page, and you find out that they have 7 million followers, and all it is is pictures of their ass.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Girls get way more followers on Instagram than dudes.
unidentified
That's so nuts.
brendan schaub
Oh, there she is.
Look up there.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's her.
Find the one where she's doing...
Find the one where she's doing that, uh...
bryan callen
That's a strong gal.
brendan schaub
That critter gots a shitter on her, for sure.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, but you gotta wait.
Jamie, find the one where she's, uh, in there doing the, um, the fucking...
Oh, that's rampages.
Well, she's got a page.
What does it say?
Juliet, what?
Yeah, but I'm telling you that she has a page.
So what does that say?
brendan schaub
That's it, yeah, that's at JulietLynn82.
joe rogan
Alright, I'll find it.
unidentified
Hold on.
brendan schaub
So she's not that old.
bryan callen
This is going to be interesting.
unidentified
There's nothing better than a nice ass.
Is this Seaver and Kawajiri already?
joe rogan
That's the co-main.
How the fuck is that happening already?
bryan callen
This is a short night.
unidentified
It's a great deal of...
How about that four-man Bellator tournament coming up in September?
brendan schaub
I know, right?
bryan callen
What is that?
brendan schaub
It's...
Who is it?
It's...
joe rogan
It's King Moe and Phil Davis.
brendan schaub
Emmanuel Newton, King Moe, Phil Davis, and who's the last guy?
unidentified
I'm not sure, the fourth guy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the bald-headed dude.
joe rogan
All one night.
brendan schaub
Great.
One night, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Wait, they're all fighting one night?
unidentified
Yeah.
What?
It's a four-man tournament in one night.
brendan schaub
God damn you, Scott Coker.
You genius.
tony hinchcliffe
Bellator is trying some experiments, huh?
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at it to mix it up, because you've got to do something, because you're not going to compete with the UFC talent for talent.
tony hinchcliffe
I'll tell you this, the front patio of the comedy store last night, everybody was waiting for that Shamrock Kimbo.
brendan schaub
Everyone loves Kimbo, man.
tony hinchcliffe
And it garnered attention, and, you know...
I don't see the UFC up on that TV that often, but that gets a different crowd watching.
You know what I mean?
brendan schaub
I agree.
I think they're doing it smart, man.
tony hinchcliffe
I've never really seen Bellator in the past year until last night.
I was really surprised about those WWF entrances.
brendan schaub
It's fun though, huh?
It's different.
tony hinchcliffe
They're not quite doing it right.
brendan schaub
It's a little too gimmicky.
tony hinchcliffe
It is, and I don't think they see what works about the WWF's entrances that they're not doing.
Like, it's cool, the production value, but...
brendan schaub
It's a little too much, right?
joe rogan
It's corny as fuck.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have the guys walk in and fight.
It's nonsense.
The UFC used to do it, and then they came to that own...
Nah, it's not, though.
brendan schaub
For Bellator, it is.
joe rogan
I think the UFC came to the right conclusion.
They thought about it, and they said, you know what?
We can get more seats.
We can sit more people in here without this.
They're really great seats.
They're important to get rid of this ramp.
And plus, we're spending all this money on pyrotechnics and shit.
For what?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then they decided to be on it.
I don't think it's awesome, man.
I don't.
brendan schaub
Well, I think the UFC's more, it's looked more as a legit sport.
Bellator's more of a spectacle.
Okay, what do you do?
You can go talent for talent with UFC? No, this is what you do.
joe rogan
You poach.
What Bellator needs to do is use some of that goddamn Viacom money and take advantage of this Reebok thing.
This Reebok thing has a lot of fighters that are going to lose a shitload of money.
Here she is.
Look at this.
Come on, son!
The fuck did I say?
tony hinchcliffe
Wow.
joe rogan
Girl's no joke.
There's a bunch of videos of her doing that.
She's letting you know.
tony hinchcliffe
She's DTF. Oh, I would do serious things to her vagina.
joe rogan
No, you wouldn't.
She would break your dick off and she would open up a window and shoot it into the sky with her pussy.
She would pull her dick off, pull your dick off with her vagina.
bryan callen
And shoot it into the sky?
joe rogan
Open up the window and stick her pussy up.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
She'd kill a bird with it.
bryan callen
She's in shape.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
I gotta start doing that.
What is exercise?
I gotta start doing that.
joe rogan
What's the benefit of that exercise?
tony hinchcliffe
Work your ass.
brendan schaub
Hips and glutes.
tony hinchcliffe
It gets you ready to fuck fat chicks.
b-real
Probably good for your sprawl, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, great for your sprawl, good for hip mobility.
joe rogan
Look at that booty.
Look at that booty.
bryan callen
Yeah, it's a ridiculous booty.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Go down.
Scroll down.
Look at that.
What?
Jesus Christ.
That's good, but it's black.
It's hard to see because of the blackness.
Scroll down a little.
There's one.
A little further.
A little further.
Look at that.
brendan schaub
She got some tiggle bitties on her, too.
unidentified
Bam!
joe rogan
What's that?
Oh, my God.
That is a fucking bona fide booty.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm not mad at that.
joe rogan
Good for her.
Congratulations on your wonderful body.
Congrats.
Yeah, she trains hard.
Well, she's Rampage's strength and conditioning trainer.
I guess Rampage has a gym.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he does, right?
In Orange County.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is it?
It's called like Rampage's Fitness or something like that.
brendan schaub
I think so, yeah.
Rampage Fitness.
unidentified
Good for him.
joe rogan
Good for him.
I'm glad he's invested his money.
brendan schaub
He's still dealing that litigation bullshit, right?
With Bellator?
joe rogan
Yep.
bryan callen
What is that about?
joe rogan
Bellator signed him, and then they violated their contract.
So the judge released him.
They put an injunction.
The judge lifted the injunction.
He fought for the UFC. Everybody loved him.
Fought Fabio Maldonado.
Great fight.
And then they got a new injunction.
So there's a new legal issue going on.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, though.
They had to release his contract for Bellator?
That thing was beastly.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's making a lot of money.
bryan callen
Are you allowed to hang a banner?
If you're under the Reebok deal, can you hang a banner?
You can't even do that.
joe rogan
No, it's over.
Not only that, you have to wear Reebok clothes the entire week of fight camp.
brendan schaub
And he has to show up in Reebok pumps.
bryan callen
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You know what, man?
brendan schaub
It's like forcing me to get a tribal tattoo.
joe rogan
It's an opening.
bryan callen
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
Barbed wire around your bicep.
brendan schaub
Fucking tramp stamp.
I'd rather just get a Reebok trance stamp than wear Reebok trance.
bryan callen
You mean 90s tattoos?
joe rogan
Fucking A. The thing about it is that it's opening up the door for Bellator in a big way.
If they can show that they can come up with a lot of money for you in a contract and let you get your own sponsors like the way it used to be, that'll change the fucking game.
Because all you need is a few of those guys to jump over.
brendan schaub
Well, Phil Davis was the first, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but Phil...
brendan schaub
He was a free agent.
joe rogan
With all due respect, Phil was a free agent.
With all due respect, Phil was not really a threat for the title.
He's just not.
You know, you watch how Anthony Rumble Johnson beat him up.
It's hard.
unidentified
Hold.
brendan schaub
Now that Jon Jones is gone.
joe rogan
And then you see Ryan Bader beat him.
It's like, I don't know.
I mean, he could...
brendan schaub
He beat Machida and he beat Gustafsson.
joe rogan
He did.
He did.
But he beat Gustafsson very early in his career.
brendan schaub
Still beat him, though.
unidentified
It's true.
bryan callen
And that win against Machida was very questionable.
brendan schaub
He beat Glover Teixeira.
unidentified
He did.
brendan schaub
He beat Iota Machida and Gustafsson.
joe rogan
Glover trained for that shit in Connecticut in his backyard.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, man.
unidentified
He literally did.
brendan schaub
I know he did.
But he beat some top, top guys.
joe rogan
No, look, Phil Davis is a tough guy, but no one thinks of him the way they think about Rumble or they think about Daniel.
That he might be a real shot at the title.
So him going over to Bellator is not the biggest loss.
brendan schaub
You're saying we need like a Jose Aldo to go to Bellator.
joe rogan
Exactly, exactly.
brendan schaub
Word, word.
joe rogan
If Aldo went over to Bellator, how about this?
Aldo and Burrell, if Hen and Burrell...
How about if Hen and Burrell beats TJ Dillashaw and then goes over to Bellator?
I mean, that's craziness.
If they get a few guys like that...
And by the way, they have that fucking Patricchio Pitbull.
Did you see that fight last night?
unidentified
Jesus Christ!
brendan schaub
He was getting his ass wet and then came back.
joe rogan
Came back and KO'd him.
That was a wild-ass fucking fight.
brendan schaub
Pitbull's a beast.
I saw some good sponsors of Bellator, but I didn't see any powerhouse sponsors.
I'm surprised everyone's not jumping the train yet.
joe rogan
They need more numbers.
I bet last night's was good.
Yeah, I'm sure it was.
They need to bail on that fucking name.
Bellator's a stupid name.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm not a fan of it.
bryan callen
What does Bellator mean?
joe rogan
It's like warrior in Latin.
They're using a dead language.
bryan callen
Bellator.
joe rogan
Let's find out, because I'm talking shit.
I don't really know what the actual name is.
brendan schaub
For sure, switch it up, though.
Be a little more professional.
unidentified
It should be Spike MMA. I agree.
joe rogan
Just like, you know, Showtime has Showtime Boxing.
HBO has HBO Boxing.
brendan schaub
It's Spike MMA. It's what it is.
Viacom Fighting?
What?
Make it more professional, man.
joe rogan
What is the name?
bryan callen
That's an interesting single, right?
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
You're right.
joe rogan
That was right?
bryan callen
Brandon, what do we do here?
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
It's Warrior in Latin.
Dennis Seaver.
It's hard for Seaver to fucking get motivated after Conor McGregor stole his soul.
You see that fight in Boston?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
He looked so slow.
He made Seaver look so slow.
joe rogan
So crazy.
McGregor walked him down and beat the fuck out of him.
brendan schaub
I know you can't pick Joe, but Tony, Brian, how do you see Conor Jose?
bryan callen
I can pick.
Conor Jose, I... He doesn't know.
joe rogan
He has no idea.
bryan callen
I mean, if I had to really put money on it, I would put money on Connor because I feel like there's so much momentum and he has so much belief and I feel in some ways maybe he's inside Jose's head.
brendan schaub
Can I help you out here?
So you think he has more belief than Jose, a guy who hasn't lost in nine years and is pound for pound best in the world?
joe rogan
Ten years.
brendan schaub
Ten now, yes.
bryan callen
Yeah, a little bit.
brendan schaub
More belief than Jose Aldo.
joe rogan
Look, Aldo has massive belief in himself.
Don't question that.
brendan schaub
Better camp?
joe rogan
Aldo's beating everybody they put in front of him.
He has the best leg kicks maybe in the world.
brendan schaub
And now he's motivated.
joe rogan
In MMA. His leg kicks are so goddamn fast and nasty.
Professional level soccer player.
And he has that ridiculous fucking hip snap because of that.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, and some of the best takedown defense ever.
joe rogan
Spectacular.
The only thing about Aldo is he's had a lot of fights, and he's had a lot of wars in the gym, a lot of tough rounds in fighting.
You know, that last Chad Mendes fight was probably the toughest fight he's ever had inside the octagon.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
Mendes cracked him.
brendan schaub
He took some punishment, for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, Mendes hit him some bombs.
And Mendes can hit fucking hard, man.
You see that Ricardo Lamas fight.
brendan schaub
He's the hardest hitter in that division, by far.
And Jose Aldo took.
He hooked that and still whooped his head.
joe rogan
He did.
bryan callen
Twice.
joe rogan
And Aldo dropped him in that first round.
Sort of illegal.
It's kind of like after the buzzer.
brendan schaub
It was tough.
The crowd's so loud.
bryan callen
Conor's taller, and I feel like his hands are probably better.
joe rogan
Well, he's never fought anybody remotely as good as Aldo, so it's hard to tell.
brendan schaub
Not even close.
Now, if I'm putting money on it in Vegas, I'm going Jose Aldo all day.
But personally, for the UFC, since I'm Team UFC, I want Conor to win.
If Conor wins, he's the biggest star of the UFC he's had in a long time.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if Aldo wins, it shows everybody what a fucking monster they've been sleeping on.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but then what do you do with Conor?
Now it's a gimmick.
bryan callen
Now you're like, fuck, man.
joe rogan
No, he rebuilds.
Depends on how he loses.
Here's my thing.
I think it's brilliant that they have Conor fighting Aldo right away like this, because the reality is we have not seen Conor fight a wrestler.
And if you see Conor in there with a Frankie Edgar, or Conor in there with a Chad Mendes, you fucking never know, man.
brendan schaub
Some wrestler's gonna be a bitch, man.
joe rogan
You never know what they could do to him.
You never know if they could take him down and smother him.
Look at the way Frankie Edgar stole Cub Swanson's fucking mill.
Just stole it.
Stole it out of his body.
brendan schaub
They don't want that, though.
They don't want that, because look at Clay Guida and Anthony Pettis.
Remember that?
You don't want that, man.
joe rogan
And that's what Dos Anjos did to him, too.
brendan schaub
Yes, exactly.
joe rogan
But Dos Anjos with better stand-up.
brendan schaub
Yes.
But the thing is, it's going to be rough for Conor.
As long as he makes it a fight, we're good.
If he goes in there and gets fucking dismantled, then it's like, oh my god, this shit-talking is embarrassing, man.
joe rogan
He's so big and so strong, I don't think he's going to get dismantled, but I think it's a fight, man.
It's a fucking hell of a fight.
tony hinchcliffe
I think Conor's gotten a little too confident.
He's wearing sunglasses indoors and shit now.
bryan callen
That's part of his thing, yeah.
joe rogan
It's part of the show, wrestling fan.
tony hinchcliffe
I know.
You know this.
But most of those guys coming in sunglasses win after they have the belt.
He's wearing the sunglasses indoors before the belt.
You gotta wait.
You gotta pay your dues.
He's almost there.
joe rogan
You've got a wrestling mentality that's gonna ruin this whole fight podcast.
brendan schaub
How dare you.
How dare you bring that bullshit in here.
joe rogan
Kawajiri on top with Dennis Seaver.
Look at this.
tony hinchcliffe
But it's not pro wrestling.
It's high school wrestling that I'm talking about here.
I think Aldo's going to do to McGregor what Cormier did to Johnson.
bryan callen
Well, Aldo's not a wrestler on that level, though.
Aldo's a jiu-jitsu guy.
There's a big difference between wrestling and jiu-jitsu guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's going to try to knock him out.
brendan schaub
You're batshit crazy, though.
If you think he gets in a grappling match, Conor's not going to get taken down or out jiu-jitsu.
bryan callen
Yeah, I believe that.
joe rogan
Aldo's jujitsu is so fucking underrated.
bryan callen
Is that good?
Is that good?
brendan schaub
He's a fucking black belt.
World class.
joe rogan
He's competed at world class.
He beat Cobrino.
bryan callen
I don't know who Cobrino is.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up, please.
bryan callen
Sorry, guys.
joe rogan
Guys.
bryan callen
Guys, I'm sorry.
joe rogan
He's beaten world class black belts.
Let's just say that.
In straight jujitsu competition.
bryan callen
In straight jujitsu.
joe rogan
Yes, he's elite.
I mean, when you watch him move, you watch his Mike Brown fight, when you fought Mike Brown for the WEC title, he takes his back like a ghost, gets those hooks in and just, you're going nowhere.
brendan schaub
When you were a kid sucking on your mama's titty, he was in a gi.
That's how long he's been doing jiu-jitsu.
Big difference.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's accurate, but...
brendan schaub
He's been doing it a while, my man.
bryan callen
His explosion, his speed with those kicks and punches, man.
joe rogan
He's older than me.
bryan callen
Aldo.
Aldo is 63 years old.
joe rogan
Oh, you are, motherfucker.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at Seavers busted up.
bryan callen
Kawajiri.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's a great fight, though.
joe rogan
See, Dennis Seaver's a guy where...
I was talking, I was doing this interview with Crooklyn Steffi from...
I guess she's with Bloody Elbow.
unidentified
Is that what...
brendan schaub
Do you do, like, regular interviews?
joe rogan
With her.
She's my friend.
But we were talking about Ken Shamrock and Kimbo.
They were on this pro-PED rant and they got cut off because both of them were basically like, who gives a fuck?
You want to use steroids?
Use steroids.
I'm thinking, why can't guys make an agreement?
Say, if you got Vitor Belfort and whoever, and they made an agreement to be able to use whatever the fuck they wanted.
You know, you're both saying, like Ken and Kimbo is a perfect example.
41 and 51. Super suspect.
brendan schaub
And they fought in Missouri.
joe rogan
So did Bobby Lashley.
And Bobby Lashley always fights in these strange places with fucking legitimate propped up athletic commissions.
Yeah, I mean, I just think that there's nothing wrong with making an agreement like that.
brendan schaub
Well, you know what's weird to me is, like, you look at other sports, like, in baseball, if you get tested positive for steroids, you're so fucked, no Hall of Fame, you get booed everywhere we go.
Look at Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez right now setting all these records.
If you get caught in the UFC, you're kind of fucked.
You look at a guy like Rothwell who got caught, or Alistair Overeem, then they fight, everyone kind of forgets, it's whatever.
You get caught in football, it's not a big deal.
It's weird to me, man.
It's weird how we...
joe rogan
Baseball's America!
brendan schaub
It's weird, though.
joe rogan
America's not cheaters, goddammit.
You don't even understand.
You're over there running your mouth big brown.
bryan callen
They get tested once a year.
joe rogan
Looking all fucking Eurasian.
Looking all brown.
bryan callen
What are your origins?
brendan schaub
I just think society needs to be consistent.
It shouldn't matter, right?
joe rogan
Baseball is a weird one, man.
It's not even physical!
brendan schaub
Who gives a fuck?
bryan callen
No, your bat speed.
brendan schaub
Crush the ball.
bryan callen
No, no, your bat speed.
You can keep playing all up into your 30s.
brendan schaub
Brian, no shit.
I want to see home runs.
unidentified
Me too.
brendan schaub
I want them jacked on steroids to the gills and crushing balls.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
brendan schaub
Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire.
How dope was that?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was the only time people were excited.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
They both deflated.
They look weird.
unidentified
Old as balls.
joe rogan
Well, how about Sammy Sosa turning into a white guy?
What the fuck happened there?
brendan schaub
Michael Jackson is weird.
He just went super crazy.
bryan callen
I think he bleached his skin or something.
joe rogan
But it's like a gray color.
It's weird.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he looks dead.
joe rogan
Yeah, he looks like a corpse.
brendan schaub
It's just so weird how society judges certain sports.
bryan callen
But wait, bring up Sammy Sosa when he first went into the league and when he was 240. The difference is ridiculous.
joe rogan
No, Mark McGuire is the difference.
brendan schaub
Mark McGuire, the Bash Brothers' son.
joe rogan
He was giant.
He had fucking forearms like my thighs.
brendan schaub
His forearms were so jacked.
joe rogan
They were like my thighs.
With a hand at the end of it.
brendan schaub
That's what I want!
Like, Tony, you love fucking bullshit wrestling, pro wrestling, right?
You love that fake wrestling.
bryan callen
He likes the drama.
brendan schaub
Now think if the drug test was like the UFC and they're all skinny.
Is it as cool?
No.
You watch pro wrestling because there are these characters.
They look like superheroes.
Take away drug tests and see what happens.
joe rogan
Here's a bad example.
CM Punk is one of the biggest wrestlers in the world and he's 100% clean.
brendan schaub
He's the exception.
joe rogan
But there's a good example.
tony hinchcliffe
The WWF went through what UFC is going through now back in that Hulk Hogan thing in the mid-early 90s.
It was huge.
So they had to eliminate it.
They have to do it themselves.
They have a super strict policy.
brendan schaub
Bro.
tony hinchcliffe
I'm serious.
brendan schaub
Super strict?
You're telling me Batista and The Rock are clean?
bryan callen
No.
brendan schaub
Watch your words, sir.
tony hinchcliffe
Come on, The Rock?
You think The Rock's on steroids?
unidentified
Tony, will you shut your fucking mouth?
joe rogan
Tony, you weigh six pounds and you're talking about a guy who is an immense super athlete, probably about 260. Is Brock Lesnar on steroids?
Of course, they've all done something.
They've all done it.
Brock Lesnar, first of all, has superior genetics.
The bone structure that that guy has.
You can go back to when Brock Lesnar was in high school.
He was a fucking monster.
bryan callen
Didn't you tell me he benched 225 49 times?
joe rogan
Yes.
bryan callen
49 times.
joe rogan
Well, you've got to see his combine times.
His combine numbers are stupid.
His combine numbers are through the roof.
His vertical is insane.
Pull up Brock Lesnar's combine numbers, Jamie.
brendan schaub
All that said, he got shitted on when he got to the NFL. They made fun of him.
bryan callen
Well, it's a sport.
unidentified
They made fun of him.
joe rogan
Well, he wasn't ready for it.
bryan callen
No, he never played football.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's been doing wrestling.
That said, Brock Lesnar's a freak.
brendan schaub
Brock Lesnar's a super freak.
But, back to bullshit wrestling, you don't think these guys...
Think of their schedules, too.
Their schedule's fucking insane.
tony hinchcliffe
Every night.
brendan schaub
You're not eating protein shakes and staying on that schedule, my man.
I hate to piss on your sport.
Or your entertainment.
tony hinchcliffe
I mean...
joe rogan
Well, those guys are constantly not getting enough sleep.
brendan schaub
Never, man.
joe rogan
They're flying in.
It's a brutal, brutal schedule.
brendan schaub
You talk to someone who's in that business, it's brutal, man.
And a lot of times they have to pay for themselves.
They have to own rental cars and then bill the company.
It's a brutal circus.
Shit.
tony hinchcliffe
Totally.
brendan schaub
You think Triple H is fucking clean?
joe rogan
You don't get a neck like my waist.
tony hinchcliffe
I don't know what Triple H is doing.
That's an interesting one.
I mean, he's a fucking monster.
He's shaped weird.
joe rogan
What about Batista, dude?
tony hinchcliffe
Look, Batista's the worst.
unidentified
What about The Rock?
tony hinchcliffe
I don't even acknowledge that Batista was ever even in pro.
He's so terrible.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
He was great in Guardians of the Galaxy.
brendan schaub
Phenomenal.
joe rogan
You're a mess.
tony hinchcliffe
No.
joe rogan
How dare you?
tony hinchcliffe
No.
Guardians of the Galaxy.
brendan schaub
Disappointing me, bro.
tony hinchcliffe
You're watching Talking Trees and shit.
joe rogan
That movie was great!
unidentified
Talking Trees and shit.
joe rogan
Oh, you're out of your mind.
brendan schaub
Jurassic Park's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
What's a good movie to you?
tony hinchcliffe
Mad Max was great.
joe rogan
I didn't see it.
I heard it was awesome.
tony hinchcliffe
You're gonna fucking love it.
brendan schaub
Too much action for me.
joe rogan
You know what's dope, dude, that I didn't see until this weekend when I was flying back from Mexico?
John Wick.
That Keanu Reeves movie, the action movie, he plays an assassin.
They kill his dog and he goes and kills everybody.
brendan schaub
Really?
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
Oh, and they kill his dog so he goes nuts?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I'm not...
I'm not doing it justice.
brendan schaub
He gets revenge, they kill something.
joe rogan
Here's his combine numbers.
It's a fucking phenomenal move.
They're doing John Wick 2. Look at his 40. 4'7", 40. By the way, 283 pounds.
4'7", 40. 35 inch vertical jump.
Long jump.
10 feet.
Standing long jump.
10 feet.
Bench press.
225 for 30 reps.
Jesus fucking Christ.
A running back living in the body of a defensive end.
bryan callen
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
He's a freak.
brendan schaub
I gotta be honest, especially when he did do that a number of years ago, now, that's not that freakish.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Really?
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
But you gotta think about it.
brendan schaub
There's some fucking freaks now.
joe rogan
This isn't something he was training for.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
This isn't a guy that was moving towards being a pro football player.
unidentified
And just decided to do it.
brendan schaub
Brock Lesnar's the biggest freak the UFC's ever seen.
joe rogan
Ever.
brendan schaub
Ever.
Hands down.
unidentified
If Brock Lesnar...
brendan schaub
He would rip our dicks off right now.
joe rogan
If Brock Lesnar had the right coach, like if he went to a...
Not saying there's anything wrong with his coaches.
What I'm saying is, if he had the right coach in the right amount of time, like if he went to a Matt Hume or a Ferasa hobby and they engineered his career from the beginning to the time he's being introduced to the UFC to the time he's introduced to high-level competition, he could have been an all-time great.
brendan schaub
He's the best heavyweight ever.
unidentified
He has the capabilities.
joe rogan
He fought a former heavyweight champion in his second professional fight.
He fought Frank Mir in his second professional fight.
He had no idea how to defend against a leg lock.
He got leg locked.
brendan schaub
That's my favorite fight of all time.
joe rogan
Great fight.
Frank Mir's a bad motherfucker.
But then, in his third fight after that, he fights Heath Haring.
Beats the shit out of Heath Haring.
Then he fights Randy fucking Couture.
Stops Randy Couture in his fourth professional fucking fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but Randy Couture was like...
Fucking in a wheelchair to the octagon and then there's fucking Brock Lesnar.
joe rogan
Still, it doesn't matter.
I agree.
For the fourth professional fight.
Insanely impressive.
What he's done in his career, man.
brendan schaub
He beat Shane in his prime.
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
brendan schaub
Shane was in his prime and he got fucked up.
joe rogan
After Shane rocked him.
brendan schaub
Oh, after Shane beat the shit out of him.
Where they could have stopped it, let's be honest.
joe rogan
Easily could have stopped it.
brendan schaub
Easily could have stopped it.
Good thing they didn't because he came back and won.
joe rogan
Came back and strangled him.
Look, Brock Lesnar, I mean, he had no business fighting Alistair after he came back from that surgery.
He had no business fighting Kane.
He just was not on that level.
But if he learned to get on that level...
brendan schaub
He beats all those guys.
joe rogan
He beats all those guys.
brendan schaub
He has more talent than all those guys.
All those guys.
joe rogan
But he doesn't like to get hit.
brendan schaub
Dude, ask Pat Berry when he was in his training camp.
They brought Pat Berry in before he fought someone, I forget.
And Pat moved out there and was in Minnesota.
And he said he'd only train like two or three times a week.
And they were sparring.
And Pat goes hard.
Pat was a trained partner of mine for years.
Pat goes really hard.
He's a motherfucker, man.
He's a beast stand-up.
Terrible ground.
Anyways, so he fucking hits Brock, and I guess Brock freaks the fuck out.
And his coaches were like, what the fuck are you doing?
And Pat's like, what do you mean?
Like, don't fucking hit Brock in the face.
Pat was like, what the fuck am I doing here then?
And they're like, you just paw, man.
Just feel it out.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
Yeah, and Pat was like, this is some bullshit.
What?
joe rogan
They weren't hitting him.
brendan schaub
Ask Pat about it next time you see him.
Great story.
joe rogan
Well, that's weird.
brendan schaub
About him training with Brock.
joe rogan
I had heard conflicting stories.
I had heard that that's not true.
So I'm going to have to do a fight night without you guys.
I'm very sad.
brendan schaub
No way!
joe rogan
Next weekend.
brendan schaub
No, man.
joe rogan
Saturday night.
unidentified
Fuck.
brendan schaub
Fuckin' bullshit.
And my boy Liotto's fighting too.
joe rogan
Listen, you don't have to be there with him.
You come with me.
bryan callen
He does.
He needs to.
joe rogan
Why?
What's it for?
bryan callen
Because when he's without me, he gets lost.
joe rogan
I think he does well without you.
brendan schaub
No, no, no.
No, he doesn't without you.
joe rogan
I think he flourishes.
Maybe he does better.
bryan callen
No, no, no, that's not true.
He's like, where's Brian?
I'm depressed.
His head hangs low.
brendan schaub
My boy Liotta's fighting.
I was just with him last week training, man.
He looks great.
bryan callen
Does he?
brendan schaub
Looks great.
joe rogan
Does he?
brendan schaub
Great.
joe rogan
What was going on with him entering into that Rockhold fight?
This is a second.
Ooh, that's a tight guillotine.
bryan callen
Yeah, it is.
He just passed.
joe rogan
He needs to get that right knee.
The right knee was more important than even the choke.
unidentified
By far.
brendan schaub
Would you agree?
100%.
joe rogan
Yeah, getting that right knee up and over was more important.
Position over submission.
brendan schaub
Yes, sir.
joe rogan
That's fucking Hicks and Gracie 101. Position over submission.
First of all, defense.
I am always safe.
brendan schaub
Liotto said in that Rockhold fight, he got in an exchange, got hit in the back of the head.
And he was out of it since then.
joe rogan
Sort of.
He said it was an illegal shot.
I completely disagree.
I watched the elbow land.
It landed to the side of the head.
It was a ruthless fucking elbow that Rockhold hit him with.
But Rockhold had already had his back, was already beating him up.
Rockhold had him on the ground.
And Machida didn't look good physically.
He looked different physically.
He looked soft.
brendan schaub
I agree 100%.
bryan callen
Rockhold is going to fight wide next, right?
joe rogan
Rockhold's going to fight Weidman, and that's a fucking motherfucker of a fight.
brendan schaub
Real quick, best fight in middleweight history.
Name a better one.
joe rogan
Could be.
Maybe him, Anderson versus Weidman, might be the only other fight.
brendan schaub
Nah, that's old school Anderson.
joe rogan
But Anderson, the first fight.
brendan schaub
You're not talking about Anderson in his prime.
joe rogan
Anderson, the first fight versus Weidman.
We didn't know that it was over.
brendan schaub
I know, but we found out really quick it was.
joe rogan
Well, we only found out because he fucked up.
If Anderson didn't fuck up, Anderson escaped from the knee bar, right?
He escaped from the leg lock attempt by Weidman and was beating Weidman standing up before he's clowning around and trying to goad Weidman into an exchange so he could, you know, he could counter-tax him.
brendan schaub
It's hard to say he's beating him standing up because he's making such a joke of everything.
bryan callen
He was kicking the shit out of those legs and punching him in the face at will.
brendan schaub
He was not punching in the face at all.
joe rogan
No, he wasn't punching in the face at all.
He barely hit him in the face.
brendan schaub
Barely touched him.
Those leg kicks.
joe rogan
He threw a lot of leg kicks, and it was the first thing that John Donaher said to me when I went into the corner.
John Donaher said, I said, congratulations after Wyman beat him.
Donaher's such a fucking wizard.
The first thing out of his mind was, I don't like how many times he was getting hit with those leg kicks.
It was the first thing out of his mouth.
It's like, your guy just won the middleweight championship of the world.
Knocked down Anderson Silva.
That's why he's a great coach.
brendan schaub
Exactly.
I just think you have two fighters in their very, very prime, right?
Like, yeah, Rockhold had the slip-up where he got his fucking eye kicked out by a juiced-up Vitor in Brazil.
Other than that, he's a motherfucker.
You have Weidman in his prime, you have Rockhold in his prime.
It's rare we see this, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's true.
brendan schaub
To me, it's the best fight in middleweight history, if not one of the best fights in UFC history.
joe rogan
I would agree.
I would agree with that.
brendan schaub
I think Brock, Shane's better.
I think that's a bigger fight.
But other than that, I think...
joe rogan
What's a bigger fight?
Because it's the heavyweights.
The heavyweight title is the most important title.
unidentified
True.
brendan schaub
And those are also two true heavyweights who brought some shit to the octagon.
joe rogan
Right, right.
brendan schaub
Like, Kane's a tough sell, man, because he doesn't look imposing, right?
He doesn't really talk.
He just wants to wrestle and fucking chill, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think if Kane was more active and he hadn't been injured and he was just running through the division like he was when he was in his prime before this two-year layoff, if you look at the Kane that beat up Junior Dos Santos in the second and third fights, if you look at the Kane that stormed through Ben Rothwell...
brendan schaub
That's old school Kane.
joe rogan
But that Kane, if he was more active, he'd be like Canelo Alvarez.
He'd be fucking huge.
It's just tough to sell him when he's on the shelf for two months.
Or two years, rather.
brendan schaub
I agree, but think about when Brock...
Fucking Lesnar with the WWE crowd, and then he had the UFC crowd sold, and he was beating bitches up.
Former champs, Frank Mir, Randy Couture.
You know what I'm saying?
It's insane.
joe rogan
When he beat up Mir and stopped him.
brendan schaub
Destroyed his face.
joe rogan
Smashed his face.
brendan schaub
He's the biggest star the UFC's ever had.
And then you have Shane Carwin.
Remember Shane?
Just got done beating the brakes off Mir.
Knocked out Gonzaga.
joe rogan
All knockouts.
brendan schaub
MGM Grand.
Biggest heavyweight of all time in the UFC. That's the biggest fight in UFC history.
joe rogan
I just think...
brendan schaub
Brock Holden-Weidman is a dope, dope fight, man.
joe rogan
What was also the biggest pay-per-view card ever is also UFC 100, of course, so it was a big event, and there was a lot of hype behind it.
brendan schaub
No, Shane wasn't UFC 100. Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm thinking of Mirror.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're thinking of Mirror Brock.
Shane was UFC 116 at MGM Grand.
joe rogan
116?
brendan schaub
Was it really that far off?
Because I fought Chris Tuscher on that.
joe rogan
There's your boy, Pat.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there he is.
We've got to have him tell us the story training with Brock Lesnar.
MMA record, 3-2, that stuff.
Yeah, interesting.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, Brock does crazy stuff in the WWF that seems inhuman that other wrestlers have never been able to do.
bryan callen
What about the story that Skylar Ashton told us?
brendan schaub
Excuse me, sir.
Don't bring in WWF. Look at Vince.
tony hinchcliffe
You guys keep bringing it up.
joe rogan
This is the guy that had 69. He's 70. That's natural.
Totally natural.
brendan schaub
No one has ever looked like that at 69. Brian, if you quit bullshit and get on TRT, that could be you.
joe rogan
That guy's 21 years older than me.
22 years older.
brendan schaub
I'm proud of him.
joe rogan
It's insane.
bryan callen
Rich as shit.
joe rogan
Rich as shit.
bryan callen
Muscular shit.
brendan schaub
Great marketer.
joe rogan
Love it.
bryan callen
Incredible.
joe rogan
Crazy.
bryan callen
Ooh, look at this.
joe rogan
His dick's probably hard all day long.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I bet he destroys bitches.
bryan callen
Conor McGregor.
Conor McGregor.
I come from the McGregor farm.
I spoke my country's name in my native tongue.
I said, era.
Era.
tony hinchcliffe
I'll tell you what I'm excited about.
I can't wait to hear those Irish and Brazilian chants going back and forth.
joe rogan
What you can't wait to hear is the sound of head kicks from the crowd as fucking giant brawls break out.
bryan callen
I wanted to shoot myself like a lightning bolt through his chest.
joe rogan
You sounded Scottish.
bryan callen
Well, he said, McGregor is actually from Scotland.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're ruining the accent.
brendan schaub
Dude, did you see Connor's new tattoo, the tiger on his stomach?
You fucked up, son.
You got a nice set of abs like that, and you cover it with that bullshit.
And it's such good work, it looks like a 3D image.
bryan callen
Oh, look at him.
joe rogan
Aldo's a bad motherfucker.
unidentified
He's a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
People gotta educate themselves on Aldo, man.
I mean, he's a fucking motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's no joke.
brendan schaub
And he has motivation.
Not that he doesn't anyways, but now he's talking all this shit.
Like I said, I'm a Conor fan, though.
How can you not be, man?
What he's done for the sport is crazy.
joe rogan
Did you see how Aldo's brought in the jungle fight guy, Biljarino?
unidentified
How do you say his name?
brendan schaub
Is that the bald guy?
joe rogan
Biljarino?
No.
Pull up a video.
Jose Aldo brings in Jonas Biljarino.
I don't know how to say the dude's name, but the point is the dude who he brought in can emulate Conor perfectly.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
He's built like Conor and he's a beast.
brendan schaub
Does he move like Conor?
That's the difference.
joe rogan
Oh, he's good, dude.
He's good.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta see this guy.
First of all, pull up a highlight reel.
Pull up a highlight reel for Jonas, Jungle Fight champ, Jonas, B-I-L-H-A-R-I-N-H-O. I've seen this dude fight before.
He's a bad motherfucker.
And he fights 145 and he fights the same style that Conor does.
brendan schaub
Why the fuck isn't he in the UFC? He will be eventually.
I'm sure.
joe rogan
He's a beast.
I mean, I'm sure he's got a contract with Jungle Fight.
He's their champ.
You know, it's a big Brazilian organization.
brendan schaub
That's trouble for Conor, though, if he found someone to mimic that style, because that's the issue with Conor.
joe rogan
Watch this cat.
This cat's good, dude.
Look at Bill Irino.
This is him.
They call him Speed.
But watch how this guy moves around.
He moves around exactly like Conor.
And he fights Southpaw.
Watch how this motherfucker fights.
Look at this.
brendan schaub
He looks just like him.
joe rogan
Oh, he's wicked.
He's wicked, dude.
He's wicked, too.
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
He's got nasty kicks.
He's a real good striker.
And he's got a vicious...
Look at that.
Look at that fucking switch kick to the head.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's built just like Conor.
He looks exactly like him.
joe rogan
He moves like Conor, too.
Look at this motherfucker.
He's good.
His kicks are better than Conor's.
How about that?
Yeah, they are.
He hurts dudes, too, man.
He's good.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Bill Irino's no joke, man.
unidentified
See?
joe rogan
Look at him.
bryan callen
Strictly stand-up, huh?
joe rogan
No!
He's an MMA champ.
bryan callen
Jesus.
joe rogan
He's nasty, dude.
bryan callen
Dude.
joe rogan
But look at him.
He's no joke.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
Look at how he moves, man.
Exactly.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
This is the guy that Conor's bringing in.
And a lot of people think Bill Irino is better than Conor.
A lot of people think that he could beat Conor in an MMA fight.
bryan callen
Fuck.
joe rogan
Look at this movement, man.
Look at this fucking movement.
He's no joke.
Look at that straight left.
brendan schaub
Does he have any losses?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I don't know what his record is.
brendan schaub
I mean, obviously it's a highlight, so yeah, he's a bad motherfucker, but...
joe rogan
Well, you know, look, he's...
brendan schaub
He moves just like him, and he looks exactly like him.
There couldn't be a better training partner.
joe rogan
He's nasty.
brendan schaub
I wonder how he's lost, though.
joe rogan
He's even wearing his hair like Conor in preparation for this fight.
brendan schaub
Damn, all in.
joe rogan
Yeah, watch this.
Okay, now pull up a video of Aldo training with him.
Watch this.
brendan schaub
Also, he's painting his face all white.
unidentified
Look at it.
joe rogan
Look how he's doing his hair.
He's got his fucking hair up like Conor.
brendan schaub
Holy shit, son.
unidentified
He's just like him.
joe rogan
Exactly.
He's doing all the shit that Conor does.
He brought him in to mimic Conor.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm putting my entire life savings on Joe Zellino now.
unidentified
See how he's doing?
bryan callen
Are you?
brendan schaub
Yes, this is a game-changer.
bryan callen
This kid is a...
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Holy fuck, man!
He's just like him!
joe rogan
Exactly!
And he's, you know, he's got that style of movement in the first place.
All the 360 wheel kicks and roundhouse kicks and all that shit.
brendan schaub
Dude, that's trouble!
joe rogan
It's interesting.
It's very interesting.
brendan schaub
That's fucking mind-blowing.
joe rogan
It's very interesting.
bryan callen
What is that guy's name again?
joe rogan
Bilirino.
bryan callen
Bilirino.
Where is he from?
joe rogan
He's from Brazil.
B-I-L-H-A-R-I-N-H-O. Damn.
bryan callen
I might have a new boyfriend, guys.
joe rogan
He's no joke.
bryan callen
I like Conor!
joe rogan
He's a better kicker than Conor.
bryan callen
Damn, he looks like it.
joe rogan
See, Conor's kicks are almost disdainful.
If you watch the way Conor throws his kicks, he throws his kicks a lot the way he is.
Like, bitch, I'll just throw these kicks out there.
brendan schaub
So he's 6-0.
He hasn't lost.
Every win's been by...
joe rogan
TKO or KO. He's got one submission.
One submission.
Rear naked choke.
He's a bad motherfucker, dude.
brendan schaub
Holy fuck, man.
bryan callen
Where does he fight?
joe rogan
He fights, he's the jungle fight champion.
He's no joke.
He's only 25. 5'11.
Dude, he's exactly like fucking Conor.
bryan callen
Conor's not 5'11.
Conor's about 5'9.
joe rogan
No, he's 5'11.
bryan callen
Conor's not 5'11.
brendan schaub
Yes, he is.
bryan callen
I'm 5'11.
Conor's not close to 5'11.
joe rogan
Brian, you know when we find out that you're wrong, it's going to be ugly.
bryan callen
Okay, go ahead.
Take a look at the Instagram picture with us.
brendan schaub
How much taller am I? You can't go Instagram.
unidentified
What do you mean?
brendan schaub
He's slouching.
bryan callen
We're standing.
I stood next to him and I looked very carefully.
You know I look at body types.
brendan schaub
You have boots on.
bryan callen
I'm obsessed with him.
joe rogan
You have boots on.
unidentified
You're right.
joe rogan
You're right.
bryan callen
Thank you.
joe rogan
He's 5'9".
bryan callen
Everybody be quiet.
brendan schaub
Is he?
joe rogan
Yes.
bryan callen
Everybody stop talking.
brendan schaub
Give it up, Callan.
Come on, man.
I'm trying to give you depth.
unidentified
Oh, sorry.
Sorry.
brendan schaub
Jesus, man.
joe rogan
5'9".
brendan schaub
Connor's 5'8".
joe rogan
It says there 5'8".
Well, I'm 5'8", and honestly, I think he's an inch taller than me.
I think that's not correct.
bryan callen
Man.
joe rogan
It's tough to say.
unidentified
Fuck, man.
brendan schaub
That's insane.
I don't know why I'm more surprised that he brought in that guy or Callan's right.
joe rogan
Billerino.
Billerino is a fucking real game changer.
brendan schaub
Jesus!
That's a game changer!
joe rogan
Yeah, big game changer because he's going to learn how to deal with that style.
And Billerino is explaining to him all the different setups that he does.
Because Billerino fights exactly like Conor fights.
He sets up kicks and punches in a very, very similar way.
brendan schaub
And that's huge, man.
Because when you fight someone like Conor, there's very few fighters.
There's Conor, Lyoto Machida, Ronda Rousey...
Stefan Struve, because he's fucking nine foot tall.
There's certain guys where you get one shot at.
You can't duplicate it, right?
joe rogan
Right, right.
brendan schaub
So now you find a guy just like Conor.
Or maybe better.
You're going to see that?
Dude, that's a fucking game changer.
joe rogan
Exactly.
unidentified
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Goddammit, I'm putting a lot of money on Joseph now.
unidentified
Are you?
brendan schaub
I'm rooting for Conor, though.
My heart wants Conor, but my brain's like, don't be foolish.
joe rogan
I love Jose.
I love Conor, too.
I have no dog in this fight.
I really do.
brendan schaub
I just want a great fight.
I want to live up to the hype.
Dana said he thinks it's going to be the biggest pay-per-view ever.
joe rogan
It could be.
brendan schaub
It's not going to be bigger than UFC 100, son.
Let's get real.
joe rogan
It could be.
brendan schaub
Neither one of these guys are bigger stars than Brock.
joe rogan
Internationally, they certainly are.
Conor McGregor is the biggest star in combat sports history to come out of Ireland.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
What's that saying?
joe rogan
There's a lot, man.
Ireland has a lot of soccer.
We're talking about boxers.
Yeah, but Wayne McCullough, your boy Wayne McCullough comes in.
brendan schaub
Wayne McCullough.
joe rogan
They have a lot of great boxers that have come from Ireland.
Look at this.
brendan schaub
Not like superstars.
joe rogan
Track for over one million pay-per-views.
brendan schaub
Okay, so not the biggest ever.
He just says on track for one million.
I misquoted Dana.
Don't fucking rip my head.
joe rogan
Connor thinks it's going to be the biggest ever, not Dana.
Okay, my bad.
Dana thinks over a million.
Look at that.
bryan callen
Look at Joe Rogan.
brendan schaub
It does over a million, for sure.
It does over a million, 100%.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it does over a million.
bryan callen
I'm watching that for sure.
joe rogan
I think internationally, in Europe especially, I think we really have no idea how big he is.
bryan callen
What is the date?
joe rogan
It said July 11th.
brendan schaub
Fire and the Kid won't be at the UFC Expo.
We got some other shit going on.
joe rogan
What is that about?
How come you guys won't be at the UFC Expo?
brendan schaub
You can't talk shit about Reebok and show up at the Expo.
joe rogan
Is that what's going on?
brendan schaub
No, I'm just saying.
I'm assuming it has a little bit to go on.
Honestly, we got another shit going on.
We got another shit going on.
joe rogan
Listen, if we ever want to do it, what we could do is next time there's a UFC where you guys want to do something, we could just get a studio somewhere at a casino and do a live event and have a podcast with the three of us.
We just go on stage live somewhere.
bryan callen
Done.
joe rogan
We'll do the weigh-in, and then after the weigh-in, we'll do like a 6 p.m.
podcast somewhere, and then you and I do an 8 p.m.
show somewhere, a 9 p.m.
unidentified
show.
bryan callen
Yes.
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
Tony Hinchcliffe.
brendan schaub
Brilliant.
joe rogan
Tony Hinchcliffe, Tom Segura, and I will be at the Ka Theater at MGM where they do Cirque du Soleil.
bryan callen
That's a great show.
joe rogan
Slaying jokes.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, yeah.
Tom Segura.
I just remembered, you reminded me, I have to figure out, maybe I should email someone who knows more, but they told us last time at that Ca Theater, because it's a Cirque du Soleil theater, that we can do crazy stuff.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
tony hinchcliffe
Come in on a zip line?
joe rogan
You're not coming in on a zip line.
brendan schaub
Too much.
joe rogan
Just do your fucking show.
brendan schaub
You're trying to be Bellator of comedy now.
You're trying to be Bellator.
joe rogan
They told me that I can do something.
No, you can't do that.
You just go out there and you do a show.
bryan callen
That'd be sick.
brendan schaub
But he has a gold suit on, like the Golden Pony.
unidentified
That'd be sick.
tony hinchcliffe
When else do I get to do something like that?
It's at a Cirque du Soleil theater, Joe.
joe rogan
At your own show.
He's censoring you.
tony hinchcliffe
Don't you want to come in from the bottom and rise up?
joe rogan
You could die.
You know a guy died at that Cirque du Soleil theater?
tony hinchcliffe
Really?
bryan callen
Yes.
Dying is a comedy damper.
brendan schaub
You know wrestling?
bryan callen
A comedy damper.
brendan schaub
A guy fell and died.
Who's the guy who fell?
tony hinchcliffe
Owen Hart.
brendan schaub
Fucking Bret the Hitman Hart's brother.
Do you want to be Bret the Hitman Hart's brother?
joe rogan
No.
Here's a girl, Jessica Benet.
I've got to take a leap before this kid's going.
unidentified
She's walking out.
joe rogan
I'm excited about this, though.
She looks calm, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, for sure don't duck lip it, though, to the octagon.
joe rogan
She's sexy, bro.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't hate on sexy.
brendan schaub
I'm not hating on sexy.
bryan callen
You're sexy yourself.
joe rogan
Don't hate on sexy.
brendan schaub
Dude, I just said the winner of this gets a nose job.
Free nose job.
bryan callen
Damn it, Brennan!
brendan schaub
What's wrong with that?
tony hinchcliffe
Let me tell you something about Ioana.
brendan schaub
Me and Tony got a couple beaks ourselves.
tony hinchcliffe
Wait a second, don't throw me under this beak bus.
I have a weird nose.
brendan schaub
Bro, you have the same noses.
bryan callen
Don't throw me under this beak bus.
tony hinchcliffe
I do not.
unidentified
Beak bus.
joe rogan
This beak bus.
brendan schaub
Bro, we're part of the beak clan.
bryan callen
Guys, my nose is probably smaller than...
Well, my nose is right there with you guys, huh?
tony hinchcliffe
Johanna is the only one that doesn't have the weird nose out of all the ladies.
I'm waiting for it to get messed up.
brendan schaub
Tony, I'm with you on Johanna.
bryan callen
I'm with you on Johanna, and I like these.
Both these girls are attractive to me.
I don't care what anybody says.
brendan schaub
You're such a pussy.
You're so worried about people lashing out on Twitter and shit.
bryan callen
Dude, my Airbnb said they're unable to accommodate my requests.
brendan schaub
Let's do this offline, Callan.
bryan callen
Sorry, but that just hurts me.
brendan schaub
100%.
Don't text during the show.
bryan callen
It kind of hurts me.
tony hinchcliffe
I mean, she's got a wrestler.
That's her only chance.
brendan schaub
She has to jump to guard.
tony hinchcliffe
Do you follow Ioana on Instagram?
brendan schaub
Oh, I don't.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, my God.
You should look up this thing of her striking the other day.
brendan schaub
We watched it.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
Ridiculous.
She's a fucking animal.
tony hinchcliffe
An animal.
The one where she's hitting the mitts and then sprawls.
unidentified
Wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop.
brendan schaub
Sprawling.
She's a fucking monster.
She's the best woman striker to ever face the UFC. Is she going to win this fight in your mind?
Oh, you're talking about the fucking minus 700 favorite?
Yes, Brian.
I think so.
Well, Jessica, Penne, I mean, it's gonna be a tough go for her.
Because she fought Carlos Esparza, fuckin' Joanna did, and just dismantled Esparza.
So Penne, her only chance, not striking, she's gonna have to get her to the ground.
It's not wrestling, it's jiu-jitsu.
tony hinchcliffe
And a couple of Johanna's fights ago, because I've been to quite a few of them, just luckily, you know, matched up with the gigs that I do with Joe, and she just happens to be on the card.
brendan schaub
Yeah, whatever.
tony hinchcliffe
And two fights ago, she went all jujitsu against a jujitsu girl and rolled with her man and her specialty striking and she just out jujitsu the jujitsu girl.
brendan schaub
I think Carla Esparza tried taking her down something like 16 times.
It was a success for like once or twice, if that.
And Esparza, I would assume, is a better wrestler than Penny.
So she has her hands full.
If I'm predicting this, I think JJ knocks her out in the third round.
TKOs are, not knockout, TKOs in the third round.
bryan callen
I don't like seeing a girl who's this good at striking just beat up some other girl on the face.
brendan schaub
Like cyborg Gina Carano?
You ever seen that fight?
It looked like Bully Beatdown.
I was like, oh my god.
And Gina Carano is a sexy beast.
bryan callen
She's beautiful.
brendan schaub
Sign me the fuck up.
joe rogan
Is she in the audience?
bryan callen
I'm too late to ask for her, but I'll make her go at it.
brendan schaub
You're just not her style.
bryan callen
Doesn't matter, bro.
brendan schaub
She was dating Superman.
bryan callen
Who's Superman?
joe rogan
Can Superman fight, though?
brendan schaub
No, he's just a sexy bitch.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's not good enough.
If you can't fight, you can't fuck that girl for a long term.
unidentified
Might be good enough for her.
joe rogan
Maybe, but I just don't see it.
bryan callen
You think she needs to fight around?
joe rogan
She's a Weidman or some fucking Luke Rockhold, Brendan Schaub type character to send a dick home.
bryan callen
Dad was a pro football player, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Dallas Cowboys quarterback.
joe rogan
She's too hot and she's a badass fighter.
She's not going to be able to deal with some guy who can't fight and just looks good.
bryan callen
What does she walk around at?
How much does she weigh about?
joe rogan
She's not a little girl.
brendan schaub
Gina's, I'd say, well, when I saw her, she was...
joe rogan
Easily.
brendan schaub
She fought at 145. She was 160 when I saw her.
bryan callen
But she's hot.
Yeah, she's hot.
joe rogan
You know, guys who think that girls need to be skinny, you're crazy.
I don't understand it.
brendan schaub
Lose my fucking number.
I agree.
I need curves, son.
bryan callen
I agree, guys.
joe rogan
Dude, she's just all woman.
brendan schaub
Gina Carano, to me, is the sexiest female fighter ever.
unidentified
Big, big.
joe rogan
You want to make some gladiator babies?
That's your fucking girl.
brendan schaub
100%.
unidentified
Woo!
bryan callen
No doubt.
joe rogan
I mean for real man, when she fought Cyborg, Cyborg was at her juiciest juice.
brendan schaub
That hurt my feelings.
joe rogan
That was a hurt feelings fight.
brendan schaub
I feel like guys should have jumped in there and defended her.
joe rogan
Well, it would be a guy fighting.
brendan schaub
I feel like Roger Werther should have jumped in then and defended a girl.
It's fucked up, man.
joe rogan
That was fucked up.
brendan schaub
It was such a fucking beatdown.
joe rogan
They almost are responsible for the lack of drug testing they did for her.
brendan schaub
They just didn't give a fuck.
How come someone was that like, man, I think Cyborg might be juicing.
joe rogan
She's got nice eyes, Tony.
unidentified
You got this.
bryan callen
Tony, her eyes are intense.
Look at her eyes.
tony hinchcliffe
Look at her nose.
See?
See what I'm talking about?
bryan callen
She's pretty.
I think she's pretty.
You know what?
brendan schaub
I agree.
I take that back.
tony hinchcliffe
That nose ain't bad.
Only her and Rhonda are the only two that have another nose.
brendan schaub
Rhonda has a good nose.
tony hinchcliffe
Flattened.
brendan schaub
You know what?
JJ, though, looks better without makeup, I think.
unidentified
Yep.
brendan schaub
It's when she puts makeup on, where's that goddamn polo top is where it gets trouble.
joe rogan
In her country, in Poland, polo tops are hot.
It's like Rubenesque fat people in the Renaissance days.
You know, like back then, it was good to be Rubenesque.
It was sexy.
bryan callen
It kept you protected from disease.
joe rogan
Nobody had any food.
brendan schaub
Polo tops in Berlin are like yoga pants in LA. That's right.
joe rogan
First Polish UFC champion, first female European UFC champion.
She is, this is what she'd say under her title, badass bitch.
brendan schaub
Six-time world Muay Thai champion, right?
joe rogan
100% legit.
You watch her Muay Thai, it's so crisp.
First of all, her fucking jab is a laser beam.
And it's so fast and so technical.
brendan schaub
And she has confidence.
unidentified
Trouble.
bryan callen
This is cool.
joe rogan
She's so gangster.
bryan callen
What's she doing here?
joe rogan
That video of her lighting up the pads, Jesus Christ, that's impressive.
bryan callen
I haven't seen it.
joe rogan
You haven't seen it?
Jamie, pull that video up.
The video of her from the UFC Instagram page.
Just to get a feel for the fucking hand speed this chick possesses.
brendan schaub
For the UFC, they need her to be a dominant champion to make this...
Was it strawweight?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
To make the strawweight division...
We need her to just dominate bitches like Ronda is.
Because if you have the belt constantly switching, it's hard for people to jump on board.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I agree.
I agree.
tony hinchcliffe
I think people will catch on.
Her fists are like Ronda's arm bar.
She sort of has this trademark fun thing to watch.
joe rogan
What's all of her striking?
It's not just her fists.
Her fucking elbows are nasty.
brendan schaub
Knees, elbows, that bitch is bad.
Watch this.
joe rogan
Look up at that screen.
Watch this.
brendan schaub
Cal, here's your worst nightmares.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Look at her fucking hand speed, dude.
And then watch her sprawl.
Light it up, light it up, light it up.
Spray!
Light it up, light it up, light it up, sprawl!
Light it up, light it up, light it up, sprawl!
Come on, son.
brendan schaub
Tony, it might be too much, my man.
It's too much for me.
Look at how confident she is.
joe rogan
Jesus, her hand speed is insane.
bryan callen
What in the world?
tony hinchcliffe
I need a girl like that to defend me if I ever make fun of somebody too bad and they get in my face.
bryan callen
That looks like it's speeded up.
That camera's speeded up.
joe rogan
No, it isn't.
Look at the guy.
The guy's movement's totally normal.
That's sick.
Look at the guy's movement.
That doesn't speed it up at all.
brendan schaub
No, that's not speed it up.
joe rogan
Dude, she's 115 pounds of fury.
bryan callen
I'm boxing today, too, man.
Watch my hipnets today.
joe rogan
No, you're going to throw your hands in the air.
You don't know.
And you're going to hit things with your hands.
You're definitely not boxing.
bryan callen
Yeah, I am.
Wayne McCulloch makes me wear headgear.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Goddammit.
bryan callen
He hates when I do it.
He hates that I fight.
He hates it.
brendan schaub
No, I hate that you think you're fighting.
joe rogan
That's what he hates.
unidentified
You don't know.
bryan callen
You guys have a video on me.
brendan schaub
No, I've seen you and Wayne.
I've seen you sit down during the middle of the round from exhaustion.
bryan callen
Well, that's true.
I am 48. I just don't care enough.
tony hinchcliffe
Then why do it?
bryan callen
Shut up, shut up.
tony hinchcliffe
Last time I hit mitts, I puked.
joe rogan
Did you?
bryan callen
It's so hard.
tony hinchcliffe
It's exhausting.
joe rogan
Do it three times a week.
brendan schaub
You know what it is?
I'll help both of you out.
Get in shape.
unidentified
Hey, bro.
joe rogan
What's wrong with you?
bryan callen
Hey, bro, I'm in shape.
joe rogan
How dare you?
brendan schaub
Not if you gotta sit between rounds.
bryan callen
I don't have to sit anymore between rounds.
Now I know how to conserve my energy.
brendan schaub
You know, every time you sit, I get a text from someone in the gym.
bryan callen
He's not there!
tony hinchcliffe
Brian's the only guy.
brendan schaub
I got multiple eyes.
bryan callen
Tony hasn't seen me sparred in a long time.
brendan schaub
But he got multiple eyes on you.
tony hinchcliffe
Brian's the only guy who went between rounds.
bryan callen
You got people watching me?
brendan schaub
I text everyone and say, let me know how he does.
tony hinchcliffe
Brian, is it true that in between rounds when you sit down, a guy comes and fixes your hair?
bryan callen
Yes.
And wets me down with a towel.
brendan schaub
And has a Bentley belt.
tony hinchcliffe
Is it true that when you're sparring, you get afraid that you're sweating too much?
bryan callen
Yeah.
He comes over and whispers motivational things in my ear.
tony hinchcliffe
Does it upset you that you're wetter in round two than in round one?
bryan callen
Sometimes.
I look good when I'm wet.
brendan schaub
She's confident, too, man.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, she's so cool.
bryan callen
Dude, she's a badass.
unidentified
Look at her.
tony hinchcliffe
I would eat her ass.
unidentified
Would you?
Whoa.
brendan schaub
You get nose deep in that ass?
joe rogan
You probably have to.
brendan schaub
She's gonna make you, son.
You're eating elbows.
joe rogan
Just to save your life.
bryan callen
Oh, she's nervous.
brendan schaub
You're gonna eat that ass or you're not eating dinner that night.
bryan callen
This has gotta be nerve-racking.
unidentified
Ooh!
tony hinchcliffe
Kiss, kiss, kiss.
brendan schaub
Nose to nose, nose to nose, beak to beak.
joe rogan
Whoa.
tony hinchcliffe
Beak to beak.
brendan schaub
Beak to beak, dawg.
bryan callen
Dude, let me explain something to you, all you fucking guys right now.
You gotta get your jab in her face, and you gotta just follow up with a fucking serious kick.
unidentified
Shh!
joe rogan
Okay, predictions?
brendan schaub
Third round TKO by uppercut.
tony hinchcliffe
Yoana, round two.
bryan callen
Roger Huerta jumps in.
joe rogan
There we go.
This is the fight we're watching.
This is the first of all these fights.
unidentified
Does anybody know who won the Kawajiri fight?
joe rogan
Kawajiri won by decision.
bryan callen
JJ, bring those shorts up.
joe rogan
Well, Pena, I like the way she's moving.
Light on the feet.
Throwing up a nice, crisp jab.
tony hinchcliffe
I just changed my mind.
Yoana, TKO, round one.
brendan schaub
I would jump to guard.
joe rogan
Look at that jab.
I like that jab.
brendan schaub
Fuck, she's a motherfucker.
bryan callen
Don't kid yourself, guys.
Panna's been training hard.
joe rogan
Dude, that jab that Ioana has is one of my favorite jabs in all of MMA. I agree.
She mixes it up to the body, too.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
She goes low.
bryan callen
Guess you're standing in the pocket, though.
joe rogan
Left hook.
bryan callen
Penna's standing right there in the pocket, guys.
brendan schaub
That's a bad idea, Callan.
joe rogan
Yeah, but do you understand what standing in the pocket means?
You have to exchange.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, these aren't exchanges.
She's getting tagged.
brendan schaub
Yes, that's what you gotta do, son.
Put pressure on her.
Jump to half guard.
Jump to half guard.
bryan callen
Guys, can I tell you something?
Penna's the real deal.
joe rogan
Well, Penna has very good takedowns, I'll tell you that.
You saw that on The Ultimate Fighter.
She's really good at hip tosses.
brendan schaub
Good luck taking fucking JJ down.
bryan callen
She's gonna take her down, bro.
joe rogan
Yoana's taking her back.
Yoana's behind her.
tony hinchcliffe
Nah.
brendan schaub
Brian, you realize this isn't a takedown.
joe rogan
Well, she's got a headlock, man.
bryan callen
She's got a judo headlock.
Throw your hips in.
joe rogan
Ronda loves this fucking position.
brendan schaub
Big difference between Olympic judo and fucking penne.
joe rogan
Look at this.
She escapes.
bryan callen
Ronda's a judoka.
joe rogan
But penne is fucking...
She's taking some shots, man.
bryan callen
Covering up and keeping her eyes open.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, I don't like JJ's long board shorts.
bryan callen
Me neither.
She's around her shoulders, protecting her chin.
joe rogan
She's throwing a Chuck Liddell style overhand right.
brendan schaub
Don't let that fucking Roy Nelson right hand hit fucking Penne.
Oh, great timing by Penne.
Look at this!
joe rogan
Right back up.
Right back up.
brendan schaub
I'm not gonna lie to you guys, I'm going for Penne.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Kind of.
joe rogan
How come?
brendan schaub
I don't know, man, because she's such an underdog.
bryan callen
I agree.
unidentified
Wow.
bryan callen
Brandon, I'm with you.
joe rogan
I am really liking Ioana's takedown defense, man.
brendan schaub
The UFC needs JJ to win, but...
tony hinchcliffe
It's fitting that her name's Penny because Ioana's going to beat her like a wet noodle.
See what I did there?
bryan callen
See what I did there?
By the way, that's good takedown defense.
Look at this balance.
Look at this takedown defense.
tony hinchcliffe
Joe hates it when I do jokes.
brendan schaub
He's disappointed.
unidentified
He's disappointed.
joe rogan
I hate it when I see them coming down the fucking train track.
tony hinchcliffe
Well, not everybody sees them coming.
bryan callen
I didn't see them.
joe rogan
Fucking flashing lights.
unidentified
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
joe rogan
It's a macaroni joke coming your way.
unidentified
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Oh my god.
bryan callen
Don't let them suppress you.
You keep with the jokes.
joe rogan
Whoa, nice knee to the body.
brendan schaub
That's what Penne has to do, man.
joe rogan
Hey, guess what?
bryan callen
Penne's going to tire her out.
You guys, I told you this.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh!
joe rogan
Nasty elbow on the clinch.
brendan schaub
Nasty elbow.
tony hinchcliffe
She can hold on for life, but it's not going to save her.
brendan schaub
I see a fucking foot go in her face pretty soon.
joe rogan
This is a five-round fight, kids.
brendan schaub
Yes, sir.
Oh, don't do that.
joe rogan
Good left hook.
Penne can take it, I'll tell you that, man.
bryan callen
Yeah, she can.
joe rogan
She's taking some good shots.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I mean, they're 115 pounds.
joe rogan
Who's Jessica training with?
brendan schaub
Penne, she trains...
Oh, look at that.
joe rogan
Nice timing.
brendan schaub
She trains at Bouchesha's gym for jiu-jitsu.
I know she goes there all the time.
She was at Rain for a long time.
And then she also trains at Ruka.
bryan callen
I'll be honest with you, man.
brendan schaub
She trains at Ruka with Bisping's boxing coach.
unidentified
I'll be honest with you.
bryan callen
I'm excited about...
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
There you go.
tony hinchcliffe
There's your champ.
bryan callen
Stand up.
Come on.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, she's going to catch her any second.
brendan schaub
Do you hope?
tony hinchcliffe
I know.
brendan schaub
How sad are you going to be if she gets submitted, Tony?
tony hinchcliffe
It's impossible.
She doesn't get tired.
brendan schaub
Oh, she fucked her up.
joe rogan
Jessica got hurt.
She got hurt.
She got hurt.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she's hurt bad.
joe rogan
Oh, elbow.
She's tucking her head in good.
She is, man.
Look how good fucking hips by Ioana.
brendan schaub
You can't elbow the back of the head.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know, right?
That was a little slightly illegal.
A minute to go.
brendan schaub
You get a warning, but fuck someone up.
joe rogan
She's got to survive here.
brendan schaub
Go to your butt and recover.
There you go.
Just sit there.
Chill.
Fuck your legs.
Let her kick the legs.
Cool.
Chill and recover.
joe rogan
Yeah, but she needs those legs.
brendan schaub
Well, she needs her fucking cobwebs.
joe rogan
But those are girl legs.
Girl legs are all soft.
They can't take brutal punishment.
brendan schaub
Not JJ's.
Hers are fucking bats.
joe rogan
Little sinewy.
tony hinchcliffe
Look at those little snaps.
joe rogan
That sounded so weird.
brendan schaub
Snaps.
See, she's recovering.
This is smart, man.
joe rogan
It is smart.
brendan schaub
Super smart.
You get dropped to the body, it's the exact same thing you do.
joe rogan
Letting her cobwebs clear up a little bit here.
Look at this.
Butt scooting.
Stand him up.
That's a good way to get back up to your feet clean, too.
Do the butt scoot.
They back up.
They don't want to butt scoot.
Okay, Jessica Panay, man.
She's game as fuck.
bryan callen
Game as fuck, dude.
Don't kid yourself.
Come on, Jessica.
joe rogan
And you know what?
Oh!
bryan callen
Take it down!
That's a legit takedown!
joe rogan
What the fuck?
Oh, it's the round.
Was that a takedown?
bryan callen
Was that a takedown?
joe rogan
Yes, it was.
It was 100% legit.
brendan schaub
She still lost the round.
bryan callen
Legit takedown.
joe rogan
But she's showing that she's game as fuck, but she's still hanging in there.
bryan callen
Come on, Jessica.
Don't worry.
joe rogan
And by the way, you know, you gotta think that this is fucking wearing on making her fight that kind of grueling grappling exchanges is gonna wear on Ioana.
bryan callen
Yep.
joe rogan
And she's gonna slow down.
unidentified
Yep.
Ooh!
joe rogan
Look at this!
Jessica with a right hand.
Look at this.
Very nice.
bryan callen
Look at this!
brendan schaub
Great timing.
Great timing on that shot.
bryan callen
Dude, she's the real deal, man.
joe rogan
But she's forcing her to wrestle.
And when she forces her to wrestle, look at this.
Joanna.
Nice, nasty elbow on the clinch.
tony hinchcliffe
That's the one that popped the nose.
brendan schaub
She just has to get inside, man.
joe rogan
She can't stay on the outside.
bryan callen
She is mean, Joanna.
Man, she's mean.
joe rogan
Well, you know how hard life is in Poland if you look like that?
bryan callen
Yep.
And if you're a fighter.
unidentified
Skinny little wiry chick.
joe rogan
Hard life, man.
brendan schaub
Hard life.
The boys aren't knocking at the door to take you on dates.
bryan callen
Tony is.
She's got one of the funniest guys on the planet after her.
joe rogan
When they stick it in, they're not nice.
tony hinchcliffe
She's funny, too.
She's got a good sense of...
She always, like, makes, cracks jokes at the way in.
bryan callen
All she needs to see you is at a show and she'll fall in love.
tony hinchcliffe
That's right.
brendan schaub
Well, Tony, should we set this up?
tony hinchcliffe
Joe, can I open for you in Poland?
joe rogan
Let's see if Jessica Binet does anything different.
brendan schaub
Damn, JJ's sitting on her shots now.
joe rogan
She's throwing these one punches, one and one-two, and you just can't do that with Joanna.
She's just so ready to be there right when that second punch gets pulled back.
brendan schaub
Well, especially if you're looking for a takedown.
You've got to throw more in one shot than shoot.
joe rogan
Especially if she doesn't anticipate a third or fourth punch coming, like no change of angles, no uppercuts.
So she's looking for the one.
If she throws the one, the two's coming behind it, and that's about it.
And she knows she's going to be right there pulling back and then countering instantly when that punch pulls back.
brendan schaub
Yeah, JJ's too high level to get caught with that bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah, look at this.
brendan schaub
And that running is tough.
There you go.
Just close the gap, though.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Johanna with the clinch here, man.
Joanna gets Panay, but she's got to be careful of that head.
The way she leaves that head there, Panay, when you watch The Ultimate Fighter, she took a lot of girls down from that headlock position.
And look at this, the judo toss from the headlock position.
brendan schaub
I'd like more head kicks out of JJ, to be honest.
Fucking let's go, girl.
joe rogan
Well, she doesn't do it because she worries about people taking her down.
bryan callen
Tell you what, Panay is standing right there, man.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, she is.
She's tough, dude.
bryan callen
Yep, on her toes.
She's good.
Really good job.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
In the face!
tony hinchcliffe
Straight left.
joe rogan
A jab to the body's nasty, too.
Look at this combination.
brendan schaub
Penne's reaching.
joe rogan
Yeah, that combination is nasty.
brendan schaub
This fight's close to being over, gentlemen.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's getting rough.
It's getting rough.
Penne, she's taking a beating here.
bryan callen
Watch this kick.
brendan schaub
Come on, Penny.
Last of the third round.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love the movement of Ioana.
The way she slides away from things and then comes right back in and attacks.
brendan schaub
There's those head kicks.
She's loosening up now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I like it, man.
brendan schaub
I like it.
joe rogan
Goddamn.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Nice elbow.
Oh, she wins.
Oh, nasty blood.
unidentified
Damn, son.
joe rogan
Her nose just opened up.
tony hinchcliffe
Her nose is wide open.
brendan schaub
Oh!
unidentified
This fight's over.
joe rogan
This fight's over.
Look at this combination.
Goddamn, that hand speed is ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Holy shit.
bryan callen
Meanwhile, look at that.
unidentified
Oh, look at that!
joe rogan
In the clinch, she lands an elbow right to that same spot on the nose.
brendan schaub
This is smart of Penny.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
Penne is a bad bitch!
joe rogan
She needs to bleed inside of Joanna's ear.
Just get her nose in her ear and bleed in there.
bryan callen
She can take serious punishment, man.
joe rogan
Well, she has to.
brendan schaub
Well, what the fuck else are you going to do, bro?
joe rogan
Look at that splatter.
brendan schaub
That elbow was nasty.
unidentified
Her nose is splattering all the time.
brendan schaub
Ooh, JJ's comfortable, hands down.
joe rogan
Is this some...
Oh, tags that nose.
tony hinchcliffe
Look at this.
joe rogan
Look at her face!
brendan schaub
Penna, jump to guard, son!
joe rogan
Head kick just barely missed.
brendan schaub
Penna, get on the hook, jump to half guard.
joe rogan
Ioana's setting up the left high kick.
brendan schaub
It's coming, son.
joe rogan
When she goes southpaw, yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Look at her, just covered in her opponent's blood.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that combo.
tony hinchcliffe
Knee, knee, knee.
joe rogan
Oh, another elbow, son.
Elbow in the clinch!
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, I've never seen a female fighter fuck another girl up with this much damage, ever.
joe rogan
Look at her face, man.
This is insane.
She looks like a monster movie.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, she does.
joe rogan
She has a giant gash on her nose, man.
brendan schaub
Real quick, Tony, you're still into this, or...?
tony hinchcliffe
I love this.
Look at my girl.
She's covered in her opponent's blood like a fucking warrior.
brendan schaub
And you're still attracted.
tony hinchcliffe
More attracted!
brendan schaub
Okay.
bryan callen
Good job, Tony.
tony hinchcliffe
I like winners.
bryan callen
Good job, Tony.
joe rogan
That's all the gay in Tony coming to the surface, manifesting itself in the form of a dominant woman.
unidentified
Tony's not afraid.
bryan callen
Tony's not afraid of a real woman, you fucking chauvinist.
joe rogan
He's appearing.
He's imagining her with a strap on right now.
bryan callen
Tony, come on.
brendan schaub
What about Caitlyn Jenner?
joe rogan
Oh, her left eye is closed.
Her right eye is all fucked up, too, man.
unidentified
Dude, I've got this.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
Look at this combo.
How tough is Jessica?
brendan schaub
Remember, JJ's 115 pounds fucking girls up like this.
You don't see damage like this in the female division.
joe rogan
Look at that kick to the body.
Jesus.
How about Jessica Panay?
bryan callen
Jessica Panay is a bad, bad, bad motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yes, she is.
tony hinchcliffe
It's fitting that her name's Panay, because it looks like she has tomato sauce all over her face.
joe rogan
It was a better one!
That's a good one!
bryan callen
That's a good one!
unidentified
It was a better one!
You doubled up on the name of Panay.
You gotta know the problem.
tony hinchcliffe
But I saved the better one for a second.
bryan callen
It's so hard to fight somebody this good.
joe rogan
Look at all the blood.
tony hinchcliffe
It was a tomato sauce joke.
brendan schaub
Come on, wait until the third round so Big Brown's prediction's right.
No, no.
unidentified
Ouch, fudge sakes.
joe rogan
Oh, head kick.
bryan callen
Oh, Jesus Christ.
What do you do against somebody like this?
brendan schaub
I got a new favorite female fighter.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's a beast, bro.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Penny's tough.
No, I'm just kidding.
JJ's my favorite.
unidentified
No!
No!
joe rogan
15 seconds!
unidentified
Speed!
I said third round TKO, baby!
joe rogan
Dude, this is so impressive.
And look at this.
Panay is still working for the- Take that!
brendan schaub
She's super flexible, son.
unidentified
Yes, going to the third!
brendan schaub
This thing's TKO in the third, baby!
joe rogan
I want to see forward to her corner.
unidentified
I am so impressed with her.
It's like I'm a fucking oracle.
bryan callen
I am so fucking impressed with her.
tony hinchcliffe
My god.
bryan callen
I love her.
Look at her, fuck you.
joe rogan
Look at the gash on her nose, man.
tony hinchcliffe
They're gonna stop that.
joe rogan
Oh my god, look at the cut on her nose.
I've never seen a cut on her nose like that before on a women's fight.
brendan schaub
Now bear with me here.
Because it's a female, will they stop it earlier than if it was a male?
Wait for it.
unidentified
It depends.
brendan schaub
There's not a lot of experience with female fighting.
joe rogan
We're in Germany, right?
Oh my god, that's a huge gash on her nose, man.
bryan callen
What do you do about that?
joe rogan
Well, they put adrenaline on it, and they could try to close it up.
They close it up with Vaseline.
bryan callen
Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
I think it was an elbow that lit her up.
brendan schaub
It was an elbow.
unidentified
Oh!
Right there.
joe rogan
That was it.
Right there.
Immediately the blood flows.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
JJ's my favorite fighter now.
Hey, Tony, I'm on board.
I don't want to fuck her, but she's my favorite fighter.
tony hinchcliffe
I'm telling you, she's my favorite fighter fighter.
unidentified
I'm fucking in, man.
brendan schaub
This bitch is bad!
Hey, real quick, I've never watched her fight, I gotta be honest.
I don't watch a lot of girl fights.
bryan callen
To see Ronda fight somebody in that weight class with this kind of striking would be very interesting.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
brendan schaub
Not really.
Ronda would grab a hold of her and fucking toss her 20 feet in there.
joe rogan
Wow, look at her nose, man.
Her nose is just totally smashed.
bryan callen
What a badass.
You've got to give it up, man.
joe rogan
Oh, Jessica Benet is no joke, dude.
bryan callen
Jessica Benet is...
brendan schaub
No, you don't get to this level without fucking being tough.
bryan callen
Come on, man.
This is different.
This is more than tough.
This is transcendent.
brendan schaub
Well, for sure relax, Ryan.
bryan callen
This is fucking...
brendan schaub
Well, no, easy.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
bryan callen
I won't easy.
brendan schaub
No, for sure take it easy.
unidentified
Good God.
bryan callen
Come on, Jessica.
joe rogan
Wow.
bryan callen
Come on, girl.
unidentified
Throw down DKO, baby.
joe rogan
Here we go.
Jessica Panet's toughness, man.
bryan callen
So impressed.
Ouch, ouch.
Keep your hands up.
Please keep your hands up.
brendan schaub
Dude, I've never seen a little 115-pound female fighter fuck a girl up like this in my entire life.
bryan callen
She's so good.
brendan schaub
Cyborg doesn't do this to girls.
unidentified
She throws those fucking sledgehammers of hands out.
joe rogan
But she doesn't have this kind of technique.
bryan callen
No.
Ouch, keep your hands up.
joe rogan
Please keep your hands up.
brendan schaub
Dude, I've never seen a little 115 pound female fighter fuck a girl up like this in my entire life.
bryan callen
She's so good.
brendan schaub
Cyborg doesn't do this to girls.
unidentified
She throws those fucking sledgehammers of hands out.
joe rogan
But she doesn't have this kind of technique.
unidentified
No.
What?
brendan schaub
Everything's calculated.
tony hinchcliffe
Look at the welts above and below her eye.
bryan callen
Don't let her get...
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Who's next for J.J.? No bitch wants to sign up for this.
joe rogan
Klaja Gadea and her had a really close fight.
She won a split decision.
unidentified
Yeah, you're talking about the 2.0 JJ. Yeah, well, she's a different JJ. No, she's a champ.
joe rogan
She's definitely different.
brendan schaub
She's got the another elbow.
For sure, finish this round some right, though, JJ. What are you talking about?
joe rogan
What?
It froze?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, reboot it, man.
Reboot it.
Just reboot it.
Reboot it.
unidentified
Bullshit.
brendan schaub
Can they hear you?
joe rogan
The recording is still live, right?
Recording?
Yeah.
bryan callen
Jessica Penny is not tired.
joe rogan
Contact that dude.
bryan callen
Her wind is amazing.
brendan schaub
She's tired.
But look at her wind.
bryan callen
She keeps moving, man.
unidentified
Penny's tough as fuck, dude.
joe rogan
She is definitely tough as fuck.
bryan callen
Ouch, ouch, ouch.
brendan schaub
She's so tough, man.
joe rogan
She just doesn't have an answer to this.
brendan schaub
Who does?
joe rogan
Look at the swelling all over her face.
bryan callen
Still moving her head.
Still...
joe rogan
Penae is definitely game.
bryan callen
God, is she at her.
unidentified
Oh!
bryan callen
Hands up.
joe rogan
Damn.
bryan callen
Hands up.
brendan schaub
God, I'm stressed out right now.
joe rogan
Little left hook.
unidentified
Come on, Penny.
She's so tough.
bryan callen
She's so fucking tough.
joe rogan
Why are you stressed out?
brendan schaub
I don't like to see girls get fucked up, man.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
I don't.
I'm exhausted.
bryan callen
I don't either, Brendan.
I don't either.
unidentified
I hate it.
joe rogan
You're exhausted?
brendan schaub
I'm exhausted.
unidentified
I hate it.
bryan callen
I'm exhausted.
unidentified
I don't feel...
brendan schaub
I feel sick.
bryan callen
I know.
My hands feel numb.
brendan schaub
JJ is a fucking nightmare machine.
She hasn't been touched.
unidentified
She's no good.
joe rogan
She's no joke.
That's for sure, man.
Her technique is so beautiful to watch.
brendan schaub
I want to see her go to the body.
I want to see her go to the body.
joe rogan
I like how she switches up too.
Southpaw or orthodox.
Either one equally effective.
bryan callen
That jab is ridiculous.
joe rogan
God damn.
unidentified
Ouch.
joe rogan
Jessica Panay with the clinch.
You want to get a little careless there.
Jessica trying to drag her to the ground.
Jessica dragging her to the ground.
Look at this.
bryan callen
Hard to get her down, man.
tony hinchcliffe
She's gonna knock her nose off of her face.
joe rogan
Look at all the blood just squirting on the knee of Ioana.
It's squirting out of that girl's face.
bryan callen
It's a hell of a fight.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah it is, man.
bryan callen
I think it's interesting that the UFC, as male-centric as it has been for so long, is a leader in feminist activity.
A leader in women's fighting, and it's as exciting as men's right now.
joe rogan
Well, there's no women's boxing of any prominence right now.
You don't know of any women's champions.
Nobody talks about it.
brendan schaub
In the other leagues, there's just not...
Well, there's Invicta, right?
They're all female, but to this level...
joe rogan
Yeah, in kickboxing, I mean, there's only Lion Fight that has women's Muay Thai fights.
brendan schaub
Tiffany Timebomb, she's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
She's a badass bitch.
brendan schaub
Dude, I just watched the other day.
I was so impressed, I had to tweet it out.
I was like, goddamn, Tiffany Timebomb's a beast.
joe rogan
She's a beast.
Get a girl like that to learn some fucking...
brendan schaub
Attractive, too, son.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Get a girl like that to learn how to sprawl.
brendan schaub
Right?
Enjoy that.
Well, you got JJ on your hands.
unidentified
Exactly.
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
Well, she's at that same level, if not higher.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she's a multi-temporary champ.
Just measuring shots.
And Tiffany could go do some modeling if she wanted to, too.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yep.
brendan schaub
That's when you get a superstar.
Not that JJ can't be a superstar.
joe rogan
Elbows, man.
Those elbows in tight.
brendan schaub
JJ, go ahead and finish her for me, girl.
bryan callen
Hey, Brennan, when your nose is that way, what does the doctor do?
They stuff it?
brendan schaub
They put things in it, like up it, but then in the back, they set your nose.
I've had my nose set twice.
bryan callen
They set it.
brendan schaub
But your adrenaline has to stay up.
bryan callen
That's terrible.
joe rogan
That's a fucking right hand.
unidentified
That's it.
bryan callen
That's it.
brendan schaub
Big Brown called it.
joe rogan
Third round TKO, son.
bryan callen
That was crazy.
joe rogan
She's a beast.
She is a fucking beast.
brendan schaub
Look at her.
tony hinchcliffe
Look at that blood on this side of her face.
brendan schaub
No one wants a piece of that, son.
Who's next?
joe rogan
Is that what she said?
Who's next?
unidentified
Yeah.
What if she looked at the camera and said, Tony, you're getting fucked tonight!
tony hinchcliffe
I love it.
joe rogan
Who's next?
bryan callen
What a fucking badass.
tony hinchcliffe
She's so cool.
joe rogan
God, she's a beast, man.
Mad respect for Jessica Panay.
bryan callen
No doubt.
brendan schaub
Penny's a fan favorite now.
You cannot be a fan of Penny.
joe rogan
She's so tough.
Oh, look at her fucking nose, dude.
Look at her nose.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
She might need that nose job.
tony hinchcliffe
Now, when you get a gash like that, that opens up easier the next time, right?
brendan schaub
Scar tissue.
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
brendan schaub
On the nose, it's not too bad.
It's on the eyes where you're in trouble.
tony hinchcliffe
I mean, look at that.
joe rogan
They're going to repair it.
They'll do a great job.
Did you see...
Who the fuck showed a...
Raquel Pennington.
Raquel Pennington had a big gash on her forehead, and then she made pictures of it before and after.
The job that they did repairing it, they did an amazing job.
You can't even see the scar.
I don't know how the fuck they did it.
I mean, they have, like, really good plastic surgeons these days.
brendan schaub
Scar tissue's a motherfucker, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And people scar differently.
Like, black people, they tend to get more keloid scars.
For some reason, their scars, like, they have, like, thicker welt-type scars.
They stick up higher.
It depends on the person.
A lot of it's genetic.
brendan schaub
I had a nose job after I fought Cro Cop.
He shattered my nose with an elbow.
And I was worried.
I was like, God, it might be fucked from now on.
The doctor's like, no, your nose probably won't ever break again.
Because the way they structure it, they're so advanced now, it's stronger.
bryan callen
Wow.
joe rogan
Stronger after you break it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How do they do it?
What are they doing?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure because he threw an elbow and like shattered my nose into pieces.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
So they put like a mesh net in it almost.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So that mesh net.
bryan callen
Her face isn't touched.
joe rogan
Look at her fucking face.
Look at Jessica's face.
brendan schaub
I kind of feel bad for her.
joe rogan
Dude, how about what's she going to look like in six hours?
bryan callen
That's awful, man.
brendan schaub
Look at this fucking monster.
Not touched.
bryan callen
Not touched.
joe rogan
Oh.
She's badass, man.
bryan callen
You get somebody that far ahead of you in striking, what are you going to do?
joe rogan
She's so badass.
brendan schaub
You try and take them down, because she's far ahead of her in grappling, but just didn't pay off.
joe rogan
Yeah, not just far ahead in striking, but takedown defense as well.
bryan callen
Unbelievable takedown defense.
joe rogan
Yeah, her takedown defense is nasty.
bryan callen
Incredible balance.
joe rogan
Dan Hardy rocking the fucking Converse All-Stars.
tony hinchcliffe
She's totally about to take his mic from him.
If he let the other ones have it, she's going to run.
unidentified
Crank this up so we can hear this Not really It's more of a beat.
joe rogan
Well, it's a kind of war like when the UFC has a war like this.
It's sort of like when the United States invades Afghanistan.
It's kind of a war.
brendan schaub
I guess.
Or we're just bullies.
joe rogan
It's not like we got touched.
unidentified
God!
tony hinchcliffe
Come on, give me a shout-out.
joe rogan
Could you imagine?
My number one fan, Tony Hinchcliffe, Golden Pony.
brendan schaub
Golden Pony, I'm coming!
joe rogan
I ride you to success and victory.
unidentified
It's our belt!
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, I think she said it.
It's our belt.
unidentified
Look at this.
Boom!
joe rogan
Kick to the face, kid.
bryan callen
That's no fun.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Look at this elbow.
unidentified
Boom!
Nothing.
I was ready for her.
I was training so hard.
brendan schaub
J.J.'s my favorite fighter.
tony hinchcliffe
Her angles are amazing.
brendan schaub
Damn it.
joe rogan
Mark, I've seen enough.
God damn, she's good.
I agree with you, Big Brown.
This is so important for this division to have a dominant champion like that to really make everybody excited about it.
brendan schaub
Think if there's no Ronda at 135. What do we do?
joe rogan
Not much.
brendan schaub
What do you do?
It changes nonstop.
It's going to change nonstop.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's nothing...
There's no...
That's the problem with Ronda at that weight class, though.
Unless Cyborg can get down to 135, who do you anticipate it's even a challenge?
brendan schaub
Well, Ronda's a different story because she's such a dominant champ and she's just destroying it.
Now it's like, alright, this isn't cool.
Like, she's...
She's moved past that point.
For 115, we need it.
But Ronda's already gone past that point.
Where we have to have some sort of competition.
Because I bet when she fights in Brazil, I bet the numbers aren't great.
Because she's destroying bitches.
So you get the Mike Tyson effect where you're too good.
Where it's like, hold up, I'm not going to spend $70 to see her murk some girl in 15 seconds.
Because then...
Not that she's not fighting good fighters, but people assume that they're not good, and Ronda's just being, you know, spoon-fed, which is not true.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that fucking elbow.
Do you think Betch Cohea has a chance?
brendan schaub
Absolutely not.
joe rogan
She has nothing?
brendan schaub
Oh, really, Betch?
And you're going to talk shit about Ronda's dad committing suicide?
You fucked up, son.
joe rogan
She did?
Yeah, well, she said that she hoped that Ronda doesn't commit suicide after the fight.
She apparently said she didn't know that her dad committed suicide.
You don't believe her?
brendan schaub
No, I don't believe her.
I think she got too much heat, and then she was like, ah, fuck.
unidentified
That's gross.
brendan schaub
But you give Ronda a reason to break your motherfucking arm?
Because her dad?
What?
Dude, she's in trouble.
But the UFC's doing everything they can to be like, alright, this one's going to be close.
We're center to Brazil to fight in the home country of Betch.
No, come on.
It's too much, man.
It's not Rhonda's fault, but the public views it as, oh, they're just tossing anyone to Rhonda, but that's what's best available.
It's not Rhonda's fault.
joe rogan
There's your girl, Tony.
Look at her.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I'm keeping my eye on these coaches of hers.
They're getting a little touchy.
unidentified
Keep your fucking hands off my girl.
joe rogan
She's so good.
brendan schaub
Does she have a nickname?
joe rogan
No, they need to make one for her.
unidentified
I just refer to her as JJ. JJ's a good name for her, man.
brendan schaub
I like JJ. You can market that, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, I like JJ. I think you nailed it.
The other one, the Jerk-A-Dick, I don't think we should use that one.
brendan schaub
I just didn't know what to say.
unidentified
Jerk-A-Dick.
brendan schaub
I took some heat for that.
joe rogan
I'm so impressed with her, man.
brendan schaub
Me too, man.
joe rogan
Her fucking technique is so spectacular.
brendan schaub
Scary little thing.
joe rogan
She's so good.
brendan schaub
Dude, I've never seen a female fighter just destroy a girl and break her down and do that damage.
joe rogan
Better than Cyborg.
brendan schaub
Way better than Cyborg.
joe rogan
Way better.
Way more skillful and not just overwhelmingly physically dominant.
It's all technique.
brendan schaub
Yes.
Because she's destroying girls with submissions, but she's not like cutting them, breaking them down, destroying them.
joe rogan
This girl, Claudia Gedalia and her had a very close fight.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
This is the next one in line, because Claudia Gedalia, they went to a fucking split decision.
They went to war, man, and Gedalia took her down.
Like, Gedalia's no joke.
brendan schaub
Damn, this Gedalia's pretty...
joe rogan
And by the way, I thought Gedalia won the fight.
brendan schaub
Wow.
joe rogan
I thought Gedalia won the decision.
I thought it was very close, but I thought Gedalia won it.
bryan callen
Brazilian?
joe rogan
Yeah, 12 and 1, and that 1 is to Ioana.
brendan schaub
Damn, man.
joe rogan
The 1 is to Ioana, and the 1 was a very fucking close fight.
Very close fight.
brendan schaub
When did they get rid of JJ next?
bryan callen
How long ago did they fight?
joe rogan
I want to say a year and a half ago.
brendan schaub
You're dealing with a confident JJ right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was before her title fight.
It was to set up the title fight with Esparza.
brendan schaub
Michelle Watterson's in their division now, though.
joe rogan
She's a beast.
She's not in the UFC now.
brendan schaub
No, she's in the UFC now.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
unidentified
They brought her over?
brendan schaub
Yeah, she signed with the UFC, yeah.
bryan callen
She looks heavily muscled.
I wonder if some of that is a help.
joe rogan
Yeah, she might test positive.
brendan schaub
Michelle Watterson, though, submitted Jessica Penne.
Michelle Watterson's a beast.
joe rogan
Yeah, she is a beast.
brendan schaub
She's very good.
In Jacksons, yeah.
You want to talk about someone who's super marketable, Michelle Watterson, because she's really pretty, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's true.
Well, they need that, man, and they need to make sure that she's ready, because she won't be pretty after she...
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
This girl tends to unpretty-ify you.
brendan schaub
I agree.
bryan callen
Yes, she does.
joe rogan
Look at her.
Who's next?
Who's next?
brendan schaub
Next, next, next.
Jeez, relax.
What's next?
joe rogan
She's only 27, too, man.
brendan schaub
She's what they need.
bryan callen
Now, what does she study?
Just strict Muay Thai?
Because that looks like boxing.
brendan schaub
She's a six-time world champion.
joe rogan
She's definitely got great hands as well.
bryan callen
Is she Holland?
Dutch kickboxing?
joe rogan
Muay Thai is boxing as well.
There's a lot of Muay Thai fighters.
Yatsin Klai is a fucking badass boxer.
Muay Thai does not mean that they don't have good hands.
Especially today, in this day and age.
Before guys like Ramon Decker came over to Holland, a lot of those guys didn't concentrate on their hands as much.
But once the European guys and once some of the American guys started going over to Thailand and fighting, you started to see a lot more hand techniques from the Thais.
brendan schaub
The elbows are the motherfucker because people are really good with elbows, man.
bryan callen
They do so much damage.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're doing so much damage.
joe rogan
Like her.
Like what she did.
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
Or look at Crow Cop.
joe rogan
Conor McGregor, 2008. Whoa, crank that up.
brendan schaub
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Wow, look at him.
brendan schaub
He had all those zits all over his face in 2008. Yeah, he's not looking sharp.
unidentified
He really stepped his game up.
He's got a big head, huh?
bryan callen
Yes, he does.
brendan schaub
Good size noggin.
joe rogan
I'm the future.
That's when he was like 16. Damn, man.
You know, he was about to retire two years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
About to retire.
He had a friend.
Apparently his friend got so battered up in a fight that they told him never fight again.
Yeah.
He was really worried, like, thinking about his life, going, fuck, what am I doing?
brendan schaub
Was out of the gym, and his coach called him because the UFC offered him a fight.
unidentified
How crazy is that?
bryan callen
He didn't answer the phone.
He told the story on the podcast.
He didn't answer the phone.
Over and over again.
Finally he was like, ah fuck it, I'll pick it up.
brendan schaub
How crazy is Anderson Silva?
Same thing.
Basically was gonna walk away and Nogueira was like, no man, let's see what happens.
Keep going.
He gets signed by the UFC and does fucking work on Chris Lieben.
He was retired.
And Nogueira, that's why he says that.
He goes, I owe everything to Nogueira because Big Nog was like, no man, just keep going for a little bit.
Let's see what happens.
And he talked him into it.
joe rogan
What does Anderson do now?
I mean, he's in this weird predicament too with the drug testing.
Where they apparently they found like he had two two samples and One of them tested positive and the other one from a different lab did not test positive So this is dispute as to which one was correct That's weird the thing that bothers me is he just denies it like he should just come out back Listen, my leg was fucked up.
brendan schaub
I used some stuff to get my leg better.
I think he said that I don't think he did.
From what I've heard, he's denied every bit of it.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah, because he went on the Ultimate Fighter, and he was like, I've never taken steroids.
unidentified
This is bullshit.
brendan schaub
It's all a scam.
joe rogan
I thought they said Anderson admitted to taking something to heal his leg, but it was out of competition, and then once he...
Because he tested positive more than once, you know.
Tested positive before the fight, in camp, and then he tested positive again after the fight.
But he tested negative...
After the first positive.
bryan callen
I'm always fascinated with those moments in your life where one person says one thing to you and it changes the course of your life.
brendan schaub
What do you mean?
bryan callen
You know what I mean?
Like when somebody goes, hey, don't quit.
Keep going.
Maybe one more.
And you think of those times that were seminal in your life.
That one person, one teacher, one guy who says one productive thing.
Or one negative thing.
joe rogan
I stopped competing, I stopped fighting, and I focused 100% on comedy because this one kid at an open mic night said to me that I was really good when I first started, but I've drifted off.
unidentified
Ooh!
joe rogan
And I was like, fuck, he's right.
I didn't even get upset.
I was like, he's right.
It was like six months in.
It stung.
It fucking stung.
It stung.
bryan callen
So important, though.
So important to hear that and sit with it.
brendan schaub
Huge.
I was telling Brian the talk we had, right, about not fighting anymore and how I need to move on.
But we were talking, I was talking to Nate Murkart's head coach.
Mm-hmm.
And I sent him what Nate tweeted out, how he made all the excuses.
And they tweeted back to me, yeah, he wasn't feeling good.
He was sick.
I'm like, no, no, no, no.
I get that.
I get that.
It's time to move on, man.
You have got to tell him.
It's your guys' duties to move on.
And then it hit me.
I'm like, this is why fucking Joe was so honest with me.
Because if you kind of skimp around it and you leave an open door.
If you're worried about their feelings, I can come up with a million excuses why I can be world champ.
You know what I'm saying?
But you have to...
It's going to hurt like a motherfucker.
It might ruin your career.
But you just fucking hit him right straight, man.
You've got to be dead honest.
Because even his coaches are like, no, he can figure this out.
I'm like, no, no, no, motherfucker.
It's...
Over!
You have got to tell him it's time to move on.
Like, yeah, but he might do this.
For what?
So the UFC gives him these young lines and they make a name off of him?
For what, man?
There's things we're seeing where it's not good.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a certain point in time where your time is past you, and you've got to understand when that time is.
And the only way to understand when that time is, is you have to be objective with yourself, you have to be honest with yourself, and you need someone to tell you.
brendan schaub
You can't be objective and honest with yourself, because you don't get to an elite level of fighting being a Because, you know, do I still believe I can be a champion?
Yeah, I do.
joe rogan
Especially now, what if Orlovsky beats Verdum, and then you look at Orlovsky in your fight, which is, you could have easily won that fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I definitely beat him.
joe rogan
And you look at that, and you go, well, I can be champ.
brendan schaub
Yeah, which is great, but to me, it's like, it never hit me until I was talking to Nate, and I was like, oh my god, this is what Joe did with me.
You have to be so fucking honest and you can't tiptoe around their feelings because they're not going to get it.
bryan callen
It's really weird, like sometimes you'll see...
brendan schaub
That was the first time, like I appreciate it, but that literally last week was the first time I ever was like, oh my god, I get it.
Because fighters, you don't get to that level without this crazy confidence, man.
And people tell you stuff and sometimes it's not good, you have to block that out and just keep going.
joe rogan
It's also different than anything else.
Like, if you were a musician, no one would ever talk to you like that.
But the difference between being a musician making bad songs and being a fighter and getting punched in the face is that you're gonna suffer for the rest of your life with any unnecessary damage that you take.
And the more you can stop that, the more you can have a great rest of your life.
brendan schaub
You know what a friend told me, though, when we were arguing about Nate?
I'm like, bro, I'll fucking talk to him, right?
Because me and Nate are very close.
And I was like, I'll talk to him, but he goes, all right.
He goes, the difference between Joe talking to you and you talking to Nate is you have other options.
I don't have to ever fight again.
I'm fucking fine, man.
My life's actually better now that I'm not fighting so much.
Way better.
What's Nate going to do?
joe rogan
True.
bryan callen
Or any fighter.
brendan schaub
Well, I'm just saying, other fighters I don't know.
joe rogan
Start a gym, coach, yeah.
It's hard.
unidentified
Dude, what?
joe rogan
It's hard.
Well, most guys don't prepare for it.
brendan schaub
Four kids?
joe rogan
They also don't have that kind of personality that you have that translates really easily into podcasting and fucking around and being entertaining.
unidentified
Fucking around.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
You guys are having fun.
brendan schaub
I know, I'm getting paid for fucking around.
bryan callen
You're fucking around now.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're fucking around and cracking jokes.
That's entertaining.
And he's not that guy.
He's not entertaining.
brendan schaub
But the guy I was talking to, I'm not going to say his name, but he just goes, that's easy for you to say because you can walk away and you're going to make more money not fighting.
So you're like, yeah, see ya.
Everything's great and dandy.
These other fighters, they don't have that man to fall back.
There's no 401k.
There's no retirement plan.
Nate has four kids, a wife, a mortgage, bills.
Fighting's his number one source of income.
joe rogan
You see him, and then at least he's not getting, like, stunned with every shot that lands, like Gray Maynard.
Gray Maynard bugs me.
You know, I really like that guy.
brendan schaub
Love Gray Maynard.
joe rogan
He's a good dude and a great fighter, and he came that close to winning the world title.
And now you see him, and he gets lit up, and you see, like, his body just starts short-circuiting.
brendan schaub
It's heartbreaking, man.
joe rogan
It's hard.
brendan schaub
What if Reebok did this to help fighters out?
This is a little off...
What if Reebok said, alright, to help fighters out, because you're only getting paid when you fight, right?
So guys are hustling, trying to figure things out.
What if, and obviously Reebok has the money, and obviously UFC has the money because they're drug testing every fucking fighter a million times, which is expensive.
What if Reebok did a monthly payment system where you're not forced to take fights, where you're not getting injured and showing up for fights?
What if he did a monthly plan?
joe rogan
They don't have enough money.
There's not enough money invested in this.
You think about the $70 million that Reebok put in over six years.
brendan schaub
Which is nothing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not much.
bryan callen
You got 600 fighters or something on the roster?
unidentified
What the fuck?
brendan schaub
70 million to Reebok is nothing.
joe rogan
But to give people enough money to live comfortably.
brendan schaub
I didn't say comfortably.
I'm just saying it helps out because the fighters are losing tons of monthlies, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So you make that up and they're not, you know...
joe rogan
Risking fighting injured stuff like that brain trauma you they get they're getting monthly so that make sense maybe but you know what the real problem is securing a future outside of fighting and What a guy like you you have more potential outside of fighting now than anybody and more than you've ever had before and as your podcast Your podcast is fucking giant right now and it's growing at this crazy rate where you guys are millions and millions of downloads every month It's gonna keep going and going and going and going and going and just get stratospheric They
don't have that.
You have something to work for.
You see progress and excitement.
You're making a smooth transition.
These guys, they don't have that, and when they don't have that, there's literally nothing.
Talk to your boy Shane.
You know, what is Carlin doing?
He's working as an engineer.
That is just not the same as being the fucking heavyweight champ of the UFC. It's not the same of the glory when he smashed Frank Mir.
You know, when he smashed Frank Mir and got ahold of him, tied him up in that clinch and just ripping those fucking uppercuts.
I mean, that is glory.
Just glory on the highest level.
Excitement on the highest level.
And when that ends, and all of a sudden you're getting a paycheck and the government gets a big piece of that paycheck.
That paycheck is not much anyway.
No.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's depressing to talk about it.
It's just true.
For fighters, my reference is all dogs don't go to heaven.
Fighting is not like the movies, man.
This ain't a Mark Wahlberg movie where the credits roll and he's walking off in the sunset with a bag full of money.
It's usually not like that, man.
joe rogan
And we all know, guys, that when we talk to them, we see the diminishing things.
We see their eyes not focusing right.
We see their gait.
One of the things that bothered me about watching Nate fight was how close his stance was.
There's something that happens when fighters get hit a lot, where their legs, they start moving their stance closer and closer together.
And it's just like, they don't have that wide, like, you know, see how Connor fights, he's got this wide stance.
Athletic stance.
When guys get hit a lot, they start moving their legs closer and closer together.
And it's almost like their balance is fucked.
Their motor skills are affected.
You know, it's one of the things that I talked to.
Guy Metzger is working with this company in Dallas that rehabilitates people from traumatic brain injuries.
And it's one of the things that they talked about is the gait.
Like, you could see the differences in the way people stand and the way they move and the way they move inside the ring.
There's a...
bryan callen
Well, Brennan and I were talking about...
Whether or not, and it's a very tricky thing to pull off, whether there should be some kind of an expert body, a governing body of experts, who can look at somebody in their fight and say, you just can't fight anymore, you lose your license.
joe rogan
Okay, but you say that, but how do you stop Orlovsky from fighting?
Look at Orlovsky, because Orlovsky was on the way out.
Orlovsky gets starched by Fedor.
Starched, flatlined.
He gets starched by Sergei Karotanov.
unidentified
Karotanov, strike force.
brendan schaub
He gets lost to Bigfoot.
joe rogan
He gets beat the fuck out of him by Rumble.
Rumble smashes him in the first round, breaks his jaw.
And you look at him and you're like, this guy's got to stop.
Now, he comes back to the UFC... Wins a couple fights, knocks out Travis Brown, and he's next in line for a fucking world title shot.
bryan callen
I would say the answer to that is that's a hard case.
brendan schaub
You're saying that's an exception?
bryan callen
Hard cases don't make good laws.
And I hear you.
joe rogan
It's an outlier.
bryan callen
It's an outlier, and I think you'd have to weigh the overall sort of benefit to Khan to that.
So I do think that...
I do think that most of those comeback decisions could be avoided where you'd make most of the decisions very good if you had a group of people who really knew their shit and they took in all the factors.
Most people would go, that person is 36 years old, whatever he is, 37, 38. He's been starched many times.
He's not the same.
He's not moving the same.
joe rogan
Right.
bryan callen
He's got to stop.
brendan schaub
Okay, how's he supposed to make money, though?
joe rogan
More importantly, how do you tell him to stop when you tell people it's okay to skydive?
When you tell people it's okay to base jump?
When you can put on a wingsuit and jump off a cliff?
brendan schaub
But is it also worth it?
Like, if I'm a professional fucking swimmer, that's like me having this great career and be like, this is fucking crazy, man.
I got wet.
Yeah, you jump in water, you can get wet, you fight, you can get punched in the face, you can get head trauma.
Same shit.
So we know what we're signing up for.
bryan callen
It's not the same shit, though, and the reason it's not the same shit is that head trauma and the damage these guys are taking, they're going to pay for for the rest of their life, and it's life-shortening.
I don't think you can say the same thing about things like swimming and things.
Why?
brendan schaub
You don't think we know that?
That's like, and I hate compared to war and soldiers.
bryan callen
I understand you know that.
brendan schaub
That's like a soldier signed up for the Marines, going out on a fucking tour, getting shot, and you're like, what the fuck?
This is bullshit, man.
bryan callen
I'm just addressing the fact that you don't get to be a fighter and a great fighter, like a lot of the guys, without Being objective is probably not your friend in the ring when you're a young man.
brendan schaub
That's in all sports, though.
bryan callen
Football, everything.
brendan schaub
You don't think Joe Montana, if it was up to him, he'd still be slinging footballs to the 49ers at 60 years old?
Every athlete's going to keep going until, well, the NFL and the NBA, it's very simple.
Nope, there's a young guy, we're not paying you anymore.
joe rogan
That's why it really bums me out that they go after a guy like Roger Clemens for using growth hormone to throw a ball faster.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's fucking silly.
joe rogan
It's like, why?
Like, yeah, he's using some stuff, but by the way, that stuff's not illegal.
It's not like he's using meth, okay?
He's using stuff that's legal.
You can buy it.
bryan callen
That your body produces anyway.
joe rogan
Your body produces it anyway.
Scientists developed it.
It makes your body work better.
And all he's doing is prolonging his career throwing a baseball.
brendan schaub
He's investing in himself.
joe rogan
No one's getting hurt from Roger Clemens taking growth hormone and still throwing a ball.
brendan schaub
Oh, and guess what?
Every guy that he's pitching to is on the same shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So what's the point?
joe rogan
And he's not hurting these guys.
It's not like he's kickboxing and because of this he's showing up with hyperhuman hormone levels that allow him to absorb punches like tic-tacs and just beat guys down and run!
Like Vanderlei in his prime, that kind of shit.
bryan callen
But that also comes back down to the old idea of competition sport on a fair playing field.
That would be the argument that the commission would make in baseball, right?
They'd say, well, you have an advantage then over the other 32-year-olds.
joe rogan
But he doesn't have an advantage because he's still just a pitcher.
And it's not only he's throwing some ball 190 miles an hour when no one's ever seen that before.
He's throwing pitches at a normal speed.
I mean, he's not doing anything unusual.
You know what I'm saying?
I do.
I think baseball is one of the worst arguments when it comes to steroids.
bryan callen
Because it's a skills game.
And the amount of crap that Barry Bonds took, like just being booed.
brendan schaub
Bro, look at how Alex Rodriguez is right now.
Bro, he just broke 3,000th home run.
It's insane.
He just passed Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, all that shit.
ESPN won't cover it.
There's a little ticker at the bottom, but there's not a lot.
The Yankees, he spoke to all these bonuses.
The Yankees are saying, nope, we can't market this because you're known as a steroid user.
He's like, what the fuck?
It's in my contract.
You owe me $6 million if I hit this milestone that's never been done.
And the Yankees are saying, nope.
I hope we can't do it.
Because we can't market you.
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
brendan schaub
You voided the contract by being tested positive for steroids.
joe rogan
Is that true?
brendan schaub
100% true.
joe rogan
So did he void his contract?
Legally, is it void?
brendan schaub
I don't know the contract, but they're not paying him.
And he's not putting up a fight either.
unidentified
Wow.
bryan callen
Look at Barry Bonds.
How many golden gloves did Barry Bonds want?
Nine?
Seven?
brendan schaub
A shitload.
bryan callen
And steroids are not going to help you necessarily field balls to that level and that skill.
joe rogan
Well, that's not true.
It's going to help you run faster.
You're going to get to the ball quicker.
bryan callen
But I'm saying, like you said, to your point...
A great deal of baseball is skill.
And I would say steroids for baseball allow you to play longer.
joe rogan
Well, no, it definitely allows you to hit a ball harder.
bryan callen
100% bat speed.
joe rogan
Move the bat faster.
Bat weighs less to you.
bryan callen
But you also play longer.
You can also just play in your late 30s where you probably couldn't because your bat speed slows down.
brendan schaub
Now, do you think, and this comes with bullying and all this shit, do you think with society becoming a little bit sissified, now it's like head trauma's a bigger deal?
Because head trauma's always been there, right?
bryan callen
I think it's about, we know more about it, though.
brendan schaub
We know more about it, but at the same time, it's like, oh, we should stop this.
Football, they shouldn't play with helmets.
Well, when I signed up for football, I'm like, all right, I'm clashing my helmet against that dude.
It's probably not safe.
bryan callen
Yeah, but you thought your bell was rung.
Now as we learn more and more about not only what it does but the long-term effects, it's harder to condone it when you know that the people that are doing it right now are going to pay a very steep price or could be.
brendan schaub
It's harder for society, I think, to deal with.
A lot of athletes, they're very...
I think if you ask most athletes, like, hey man, your brain's gonna get fucked up.
It's gonna take 10 years off your life.
You're still gonna do it.
Most of them are gonna say yes.
joe rogan
Well, because it's better than doing that engineering job.
brendan schaub
Yes, they have no other options.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think those stories existed before of the guy who got a concussion and the coach put him back in there and then he got paralyzed moments later.
But they never get broadcasted because it wasn't the internet.
So those stories were trapped in Toledo, Ohio and some parents would tell their friends and it would be a tragedy, but it would never make it across the globe.
Now those stories become huge international stories.
bryan callen
You also see your childhood heroes talking about how they don't remember it.
Tony Dorsett did that interview and talked about how he just forgets where he is, what he's doing.
brendan schaub
Mike Ditka, Hall of Fame coach, Hall of Fame player, was like, if I knew the repercussions it was going to have on my players and myself, I would never play football.
I would never coach any of it.
And they go, would you let your sons or your grandkids play football?
He goes, nope.
That's crazy.
That's Mike motherfucking Mr. Football Ditka.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
bryan callen
Matt Matreon talked about the fact that his son wants to play football, and he said, well, that's not going to happen until you can, basically, you're in, what, sophomore or junior in high school, until your head starts to develop, or maybe college.
brendan schaub
Well, then you're not playing.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
It's stupid.
bryan callen
But that's what makes sense.
But that Mitriona played, what, for seven years was like, I don't want my son playing football right now.
joe rogan
Isn't that amazing?
Like, he's fighting in MMA, in the UFC, and he's like, nah, that's not as dangerous.
That football thing is what you really should be worried about.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
I mean, I played in both.
Yeah, I think...
bryan callen
They're both bad, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, neither one's good for your health.
bryan callen
What's worse, do you think?
brendan schaub
Well, okay, so let's just say, for example, so what, this 2016 would be my eighth year in the UFC, right?
Eight years in the NFL, I'm set for life.
I get a stipend every month, I have a retirement plan, I have a 401k, I'm good, man.
I don't have to go fucking figure something else out to do.
I can live off that.
I'm gonna be alright.
I have full benefits.
UFC, I take some head trauma, which I'm gonna get if I'm in for eight years, and I retire January 2nd after eight years.
There's no stipend.
There's no 401k.
I have no options.
I better figure some shit out.
At least in the NFL, I'm still gonna get head trauma, but at least I'm gonna get compensated for it down the road.
And it's not the UFC's fault, because UFC, right now, you know, we're getting there, but we're in leather helmets if it's the NFL. The NFL's been around a long time.
It's a smooth operating machine.
There's a players' union, so I get that.
But if I had to pick, at least if I'm going to suffer head trauma, at least I don't have to, when I retire, I at least get something back.
Does that make sense?
bryan callen
Yeah, what do you think, from the actual doing of the sport, and I know it probably depends on the position, but say a free safety or someone...
Does free safety take more head trauma than somebody who is an active fighter in the UFC? I don't think so.
No.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
bryan callen
Jesus.
brendan schaub
Because they have protection of a helmet on.
And then if you're talking, if you're a heavyweight, you're sparring with other 260 plus pound professional athletes.
And when you're sparring, now we have more knowledge and guys aren't sparring that much, taking as much hits.
bryan callen
Back in the day.
brendan schaub
I mean, you get hit with a jab from a UFC heavyweight, it's going to fuck your brain up, man.
And you're going to get hit.
It's what you signed up for.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's really no way around it.
brendan schaub
No, it's part of the game.
bryan callen
Talking to Tony Jeffries, he was calculating how many hits he took to the head.
It was something like 55,000.
brendan schaub
He said if he got hit six times a round in the head, which is low, if he got hit six times how many rounds he did in amateur fights and pro fights, it came out to what?
bryan callen
55,000.
brendan schaub
55,000 hits to the head.
bryan callen
Yeah, and I kind of did it on my calculator, and he was right.
I was like, God damn.
joe rogan
Think about Georges St-Pierre.
We know he got hit 800 plus times inside the octagon by world-class fighters.
How many times did he get hit in the gym?
How many different rounds did he spar?
brendan schaub
And he goes hard, man.
bryan callen
He can't be good.
joe rogan
He has to.
brendan schaub
He goes hard.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
He does, huh?
brendan schaub
And against the very best in the world.
joe rogan
Once they come up, if they come up with a way to regenerate brain cells, if they come up with a way to fix, like if they come up with some sort of stem cell injection when they can regenerate your tissue.
brendan schaub
Oh, then we're good.
joe rogan
Then we're good.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
Then it's the best sport in the world.
joe rogan
Yeah, then it's like, man, why worry about it?
Yeah.
You know, maybe they give you some shit.
It makes you way smarter than everybody else once you get brain damage.
brendan schaub
That'd be dope.
Like that movie.
What's that movie?
bryan callen
They're trying to reverse engineer the brain.
That's a brain project in both China and the United States.
brendan schaub
They say they're not even close.
The brain's so complicated.
Everything else, they're good.
The brain, they can't figure it out.
bryan callen
Very difficult.
It's a 10-year project.
unidentified
Isn't that nuts?
bryan callen
Yeah.
They just, I think they're coming really close to reverse engineering the red blood cell of a dog, which means that then they'll be able to do it with a human, which really means they'll be able to replicate it with a tiny machine.
joe rogan
Well, that's what Kurzweil was saying.
Kurzweil was saying they're going to come up with artificial blood cells that are so efficient, you'll be able to take one deep breath and go to the bottom of a pool for an hour.
bryan callen
Yep.
Yep.
How about that?
joe rogan
How about that?
bryan callen
And sprint.
You'll be able to sprint on a breath.
Like, you can just run...
brendan schaub
Dude, sports will never be the same.
joe rogan
It won't be as fun.
brendan schaub
It won't be fun, man.
joe rogan
A thousand years from now?
brendan schaub
Mental strength won't be good.
joe rogan
No, it's going to be so different.
bryan callen
It'll be the technology in your body.
What can you afford?
brendan schaub
You know what's cool?
Well, not cool.
People are going to be like, you know what?
I want my kid to play like LeBron James and look like Brad Pitt.
That's not good.
bryan callen
That's not good.
brendan schaub
Because then it puts everyone on the playing level field.
You want people to be different, man.
bryan callen
Say you could do that.
Say you could engineer the perfect person.
Then it would raise really weird questions about what a human being is.
Because so much of what we define a human being...
It's based on their will and their ability.
joe rogan
They'll never be able to figure out how to make someone smart or make someone have a good personality or make someone have a funny sense of humor.
The sense of humor especially.
You can't really engineer that with a computer.
bryan callen
How you put it all together and stuff.
joe rogan
Maybe you can have a guy look like Brad Pitt all you want.
If somebody like you comes along and goofs on him, then he falls apart.
Thank God.
Because emotionally he's not used to it.
bryan callen
That's huge.
joe rogan
You're like, look at you.
You're not genetically engineered, are you?
What would you have done without that?
Probably starve.
You know?
Look at you, you fucking science project.
brendan schaub
That means you're going to walk away with a girl.
bryan callen
We were talking about that with an athlete.
In the human element, there's the immeasurable.
There's something called sense of humor, personality.
We were talking about athletes.
You can measure the best athlete.
A guy can run the fastest, jump the highest, all that stuff.
Yet, somehow they don't win games the way somebody who does all that stuff in an average way does, or not as well.
So Wayne Gretzky didn't have the fastest slap shot, not even close, wasn't the fastest skater.
Somehow he could put it all together.
And the question becomes, how much of a factor does that measure in when you talk about how good an athlete somebody is?
joe rogan
Well, that's Larry Bird.
You know, Larry Bird was never a great athlete, but his fucking accuracy and those three-pointers.
bryan callen
His competitive edge.
joe rogan
Competitive edge, demeanor.
unidentified
Work ethic.
joe rogan
Confidence.
bryan callen
And his ability to get into the other player's head.
unidentified
Yeah.
bryan callen
The biggest trash talker.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, you know, you're looking at a guy that's like a pasty white dude.
It didn't look anything like LeBron James.
brendan schaub
So awesome.
So dope.
bryan callen
But that is that weird human x-factor that, thank God, exists.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Because technology may be moving forward, but it doesn't.
brendan schaub
Tony, you're a football fan.
When you watch it, do you care that there's brain trauma going on?
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, of course.
Yeah, it's fucking crazy.
brendan schaub
But you still watch it every Sunday.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
And fighting, like you just watch.
So you realize Jessica Penny got brain damage, correct?
tony hinchcliffe
Absolutely.
brendan schaub
Don't give a fuck, right?
tony hinchcliffe
No, I got a couple bad concussions back in high school wrestling days.
I got stuck in a head scissors and a guy slammed my head, you know, he pops back and I was out.
I woke up with puke all over me on the mat.
joe rogan
That helmet that you were wearing, that cryo helmet, those guys contacted me.
You like that?
bryan callen
I like the idea, I like what they're doing for, you know, Just Cool Me is a really cool non-profit organization that basically tries to get the word out there that when you have head trauma, he was a veteran, I think Daniel, damn, Daniel Ortega, Daniel Ortiz, I'm sorry, Daniel Gonzalez, I think his name is, and he runs it, and he was a, he was a Mexican name.
unidentified
- The Mexican news. - He was at Isis Ortega Gonzalez.
brendan schaub
- Yeah, Daniel Gonzalez, the last question.
unidentified
- Shit.
bryan callen
- Sorry Daniel for not getting your name right. - Burrito. - But Daniel was in the military, and I believe he's a medic, and one of the things that they found is that when you have head trauma and you cool somebody immediately, you cool their head right away, it can be very, very beneficial to stopping long-term trauma. very beneficial to stopping long-term trauma.
And this guy, the cryo helmet guy, Douglas, his brother's a boxer.
He was a boxer, and his brother actually has a gym.
And so he created basically this cryo helmet where you just put it in the freezer and you just put it on your head after your contacts are in.
brendan schaub
Real quick, he sent it to you because you're worried about head trauma?
bryan callen
No, because he listens to the podcast.
He goes, stop boxing.
He goes, what are you doing?
He goes, stop boxing and don't box.
There's no reason to.
And if you insist on it, fucking cool your head.
joe rogan
Are you getting your bell rung when you're boxing?
bryan callen
No, no.
With Wayne, he'll catch me, but it's not.
I'm fine.
tony hinchcliffe
But then you go home and you put on the cryo helmet?
bryan callen
No, I don't do it.
I just got it.
I will now.
brendan schaub
Well, the guy was smart sent to you and Joe Rogan.
bryan callen
I'm not a pro.
brendan schaub
I mean, I'm sure he's a great guy, but he's very smart.
bryan callen
I'm not a pro fighter.
No, but I'm doing it because I think Just Cool Me is a non-profit.
joe rogan
So you're sparring with Wayne McCullough?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Wayne McCullough is just like popping you in the head lightly.
bryan callen
I'm not sparring with Wayne McCullough.
Wayne McCullough moves around with me.
I try to hit him.
brendan schaub
He spars with other guys, though.
I've seen him spar with other guys.
I'm like, what are you doing?
bryan callen
But they're not...
joe rogan
What does it look like when he spars with other guys?
bryan callen
You haven't seen me in a long time?
unidentified
Well, no, no.
brendan schaub
I was gonna help you out.
Brian's footwork's better than all of them.
His footwork's better than all these guys.
I mean, he's not like this fucking guy.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh my god.
So when you take off your cryo helmet, is there a guy with a blow dryer and a holster there to fix your hair afterwards?
bryan callen
Yes, there is.
brendan schaub
But Brian is getting hit in the head.
joe rogan
When he's sparring.
bryan callen
Not hard.
brendan schaub
Still hits to the head.
He'll still travel to the head.
bryan callen
I know.
I like doing it, though.
I like boxing.
brendan schaub
I don't get it.
joe rogan
Why don't you just do jujitsu?
brendan schaub
That's what I fucking tell him.
bryan callen
I need to start doing jujitsu.
joe rogan
Why don't you do it?
bryan callen
I'm going to.
joe rogan
Well, why don't you?
bryan callen
I don't have time.
I'm trying to box.
I have time.
I'll do it.
I play tennis.
joe rogan
But you were a good grappler.
But you were a good grappler.
bryan callen
Yeah.
I miss the shit out of it.
joe rogan
But I remember when we first started training, when I first brought you into Carlson Gracie's, you would go hard, man.
You would go after those guys.
brendan schaub
You're going to roll this Saturday with Tarek and Jake Shields.
bryan callen
I can't wait.
How will I do against Jake?
unidentified
Be honest.
joe rogan
You're gonna get mauled.
bryan callen
Come on, dude.
brendan schaub
Me, Tariq, and Jake Shields, you're gonna do great, Brian.
bryan callen
Thank you.
brendan schaub
When's the last time you rolled?
bryan callen
It doesn't matter, bro, because what happens is I square up.
What are you gonna do?
Take me down?
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
Are you guys in San Francisco?
Is that what's going on?
You're gonna train up there?
What the fuck are you doing up there?
What are you guys doing up there?
bryan callen
I'm doing the punchline, and then he's coming up, and we're gonna...
brendan schaub
I have two meetings with sponsors.
One for personal and one for the podcast.
bryan callen
And then we're gonna have fun, like roll with Jake Shields.
I can't wait.
joe rogan
Yeah, that'll be fun for about three seconds.
bryan callen
Yeah, I mean, I have no business.
brendan schaub
I train with Jake first week of May, because he's getting ready to fight Paul Harris.
So all he's working on is leg locks.
God, he's a fucking monster.
Jake's a beast.
joe rogan
He's very good, man.
tony hinchcliffe
Brian, how much do you weigh?
bryan callen
Uh, 220. Really?
No.
170. Really?
joe rogan
Exactly 170. You understand, like, mass and size.
bryan callen
My weight's all on my feet.
joe rogan
He's made out of lead.
tony hinchcliffe
If you cut down to 140, I'll, uh, wrestle you.
unidentified
Alright, cut down to 140. I couldn't suck that kind of weight.
joe rogan
Lose 30 pounds.
bryan callen
That's hard.
tony hinchcliffe
I think you could do it.
brendan schaub
Dude, I have to do it.
I think you could do it, man.
bryan callen
What are you, scared?
145?
Could I suck on a 45?
brendan schaub
Dude, I had to do a cooking show yesterday talking about my diet and how I'm like straight at 205. Is this just me bullshitting the whole time?
They're gonna hear this, I don't give a fuck.
They're like, so like right now, where you at?
I'm like, like right now, now, now?
They're like, yeah, do you have a scalar?
unidentified
I'm like, I don't.
brendan schaub
So I wore this tight black shirt.
I looked like fucking Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Like black shirt jeans.
bryan callen
He's so enormous.
He hadn't eaten and we would have done a podcast and he's like, I'm starving.
I'm starving.
And I could see the frenzy look in his eyes.
He's got a food issue.
unidentified
Horrible food issue.
bryan callen
We go to Jelena Takeaway, one of our favorite places.
joe rogan
What's the issue?
bryan callen
He orders a sandwich.
brendan schaub
That's the cooking show me bullshit my way through this diet.
joe rogan
Where is this at?
brendan schaub
That's my house.
joe rogan
Nice.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so what is this show?
What is this cooking show?
brendan schaub
Just basically the big ground slim down.
Because I- Rachel Ray was there?
No, I said watch out, Rachel Ray.
I wish Rachel Ray was there.
bryan callen
She's hot.
brendan schaub
Yeah, hell yeah.
She loves pit bulls and shit.
bryan callen
You look like a burly cook.
There you are.
joe rogan
Burly cook.
Have you had a cooking show, dude?
Do you know what I'm called?
A post that would go your way.
bryan callen
Called the Burly Cook.
With your shirt off?
brendan schaub
You know what, though?
joe rogan
Launch it your way.
brendan schaub
When I was so hungry, we went to Jelena's takeaway.
bryan callen
He ate so much, and he goes like this, he finally goes...
I was disappointed in myself.
He looks at me after we ate, and he goes...
And I go, what's up?
He goes, I'm getting another piece of pizza.
And I go, I am, Brian.
I'm going to do it.
And I go, alright.
unidentified
Brian goes, great, man.
bryan callen
I'm not going to jump off the 50-foot cliff.
He goes, I'm doing it.
And he goes, I'd like another piece, please.
brendan schaub
No, then I got two cookies.
And you were talking to a girl.
And I see her.
Look at me.
I go, Brian.
I'm dead serious.
I go, I got you cookies and pizza, man.
joe rogan
I'll tell you what you've never seen before.
unidentified
I have a food complex.
joe rogan
You want to see something nuts?
You need to see Ari Shafir eat at Fogo de Chao.
I eat a lot of food, dude.
But I can't fuck with Ari when he has that all-you-can-eat buffet at Fogo to Chow.
You know, Fogo, they have the chip, they flip it over.
I don't know how he does it.
He out-eats all of us.
tony hinchcliffe
It's because of his Jewishness.
He sees the opportunity to fill up on his food.
He's like a bear.
He just hibernates after that.
joe rogan
Because it's all-you-can-eat?
I don't know how he does it, but he keeps coming.
Do you eat healthy, though?
brendan schaub
I mean, you're a lean dude.
But I see your post that night where it's like moose, fucking meat, so you're not eating a lot of carbs that night.
joe rogan
Well, I don't eat much carbs.
I limit my pasta to only a couple portions a week, and I limit my bread.
Yeah, I don't believe in it.
I think pasta's mostly just dough, and it's fucking gum.
It's like when you eat it, it's just doughy, massive, fucking, it's just glue.
brendan schaub
Do you just have great genetics?
joe rogan
Well, I have really good genetics for sure, but I definitely eat a lot of good food.
I eat a lot of vegetables.
brendan schaub
Like what was your breakfast?
joe rogan
I haven't eaten yet.
brendan schaub
You haven't eaten at all?
joe rogan
No, I ate this bar.
brendan schaub
So do you do that on purpose, like intermittent fasting?
joe rogan
Well, I ate late at night.
Late at night I had five eggs and I had some steak and then I went to sleep.
bryan callen
I can't eat protein at night.
I literally can never sleep.
If I did that, if I ate eggs and steak, I would wake up two hours later in a hot sweat and I'd have to throw the covers off and I would be awake for another three hours.
unidentified
What?
bryan callen
Can't do it.
Guess what I can sleep on?
brendan schaub
Carbs.
bryan callen
Big bowl of carbs, no problem.
joe rogan
Why is that?
bryan callen
It depends on your metabolic type, apparently, from what I've read.
And I'll give you a questionnaire.
Can you eat carbs at night and do you sleep well?
Right through the night.
If you eat protein, if I eat any protein, I'm fucked.
joe rogan
See, if I eat carbs, I feel like weighed down.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
Like if I eat a bowl of pasta, I love spaghetti, man.
Like spaghetti and meatballs, I'm in heaven.
I love it.
tony hinchcliffe
How about penne?
joe rogan
But right after it's over, it's just...
Right after it's over, I'm just like...
I just hate glue.
brendan schaub
You know what the problem I'm having sticking to a strict diet is when you have a goal, like when you know you have a motherfucker like Andrey Arlowski, you're gonna fight a Crow Cop, it's easy to be strict as fuck.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Right now...
bryan callen
Because you're afraid, basically.
brendan schaub
Well, no.
joe rogan
You have a goal.
brendan schaub
You have a goal in mind.
Like right now, there's no...
Like I said, I'm only taking a fight if it's a super fight.
I told them that.
But there's nothing set, right?
So right now, it's like, tonight, I'm going out to this dinner.
It's like, alright, well, usually I'd go out and I'd eat super strict, but in my head, like, when I get to the menu, I'm like, for what?
Why would I eat super strict?
joe rogan
Yeah, just enjoy food, man.
brendan schaub
But then I'm worried about getting fat, because I have body dysmorphia.
unidentified
Yeah.
bryan callen
You have the best body.
unidentified
It's true.
bryan callen
Like, girls look at your body and basically hump you with their eyes.
brendan schaub
What about when we saw Mika Kelly?
How embarrassed was I? It was the greatest thing in the world.
And I, like, hit it.
bryan callen
Mika Kelly is an actress, and I think she was on The Hills or something.
brendan schaub
She dated Derek Jeter.
I've worked out the same place.
joe rogan
You hide your pizza from her?
bryan callen
They're looking at him.
The three girls are looking at Brennan.
And Brennan goes like this.
Brennan goes...
We're eating.
And we're just down the way.
And he goes, I'll take a box, please.
I'm going to take this to go.
And I go, uh-huh.
And he puts it in a box.
I was like, that's weird.
And I'm eating away.
As soon as they leave, he goes, I'll be honest with you.
I didn't want to think I was a fat ass.
And he opens it up and starts wolfing it down.
joe rogan
You're remotely fat.
Why would you think that?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
You know what?
I'd just tell him, Brian's tummy.
He goes, why are you like that?
Because I don't look like Alistair Overeem.
And when I was in high school, a girlfriend said something to me before a huge competition.
She's like, God, it'd be nicer if you had a little flatter stomach.
And since then...
joe rogan
Girl, in high school?
unidentified
You were dating?
bryan callen
By the way, time to get over that, huh?
brendan schaub
It's like people who get bullied.
It's like people who get bullied.
bryan callen
You're 32, so time to get over that.
Get over that right now.
joe rogan
It was only 20 years ago.
Give him some time.
brendan schaub
Give him some time, man.
joe rogan
Did you hear what Vinny Shorman said, the hypnotist that I had on the podcast?
He was talking about this guy who 60 years old who was standing on the top of a hill, and he was looking down.
He was like, well, why don't you go down?
He goes, no, those guys are down there.
They used to bully me in high school.
He's 60, and the guys used to bully him in high school.
He was waiting for them to leave before he went down.
brendan schaub
That's sad.
unidentified
Whoa.
bryan callen
You know what happened to me?
I got bullied for a full year, and it turned me into a fucking...
If somebody tried to bully me, I'll show up at your fucking house and kill you.
That's what happens.
I get so angry.
joe rogan
I'm not buying that even remotely.
brendan schaub
I hate when he talks like that.
unidentified
That's not true.
bryan callen
You fucking bully me.
You try bullying me right now, motherfucker.
joe rogan
You know what your problem is?
bryan callen
Hold on, let me handle this.
joe rogan
Here's your problem.
You've talked to too many guys that let you say shit like that, and then it becomes like vernacular.
brendan schaub
It becomes like a part of the way you talk.
This is what I do.
This is what I do.
bryan callen
Brian, look at me.
joe rogan
All those people that I know, all those people that when I first met you, all those people you used to hang around with, those are all toxic, and they've ruined the way you're allowed to communicate with people.
brendan schaub
That's true.
joe rogan
Because they said stupid shit, and then you said stupid shit, and it was okay.
bryan callen
If somebody fucks with me, bro, look at how my...
What do you have to say to me?
brendan schaub
Bro, I watched a scary movie with him and it was the most annoying thing ever.
unidentified
He goes, I fucking wish a demon would grab me, man.
brendan schaub
You know what I would do?
And I'm like, why are you talking to me like this?
joe rogan
It's not that you get mad.
It's that you hang around with people for a long time.
You hung around with people that allowed you to talk like that.
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
Without mocking you.
unidentified
Who aren't tough.
brendan schaub
Who aren't tough.
bryan callen
Bros.
Bros, listen up.
I will fuck some...
You bully me, bro.
I don't give a shit about your UFC bullshit.
I will fucking come right at you.
brendan schaub
I could pin you on the ground right now and put my dick in your mouth.
bryan callen
You could try.
brendan schaub
For no reason.
bryan callen
You could try, and guess what?
brendan schaub
Just because it's the nice Saturday.
unidentified
Guess what?
bryan callen
I would fucking come right to your house.
unidentified
Bang, bang, bang.
brendan schaub
You'd be dead, Joe.
joe rogan
Would I? Yep.
brendan schaub
He needs friends like us, because he gets a...
joe rogan
He hangs around with a lot of idiots.
There's a lot of people that he hangs around with that are full of shit.
They're dumb.
brendan schaub
They're indulgent.
I feel sick.
You do.
joe rogan
You hang out with a lot of people that are such bullshit artists.
bryan callen
No, I don't.
joe rogan
My good friends?
You know who I'm talking about.
You have friends that are bullshit artists, and you don't even realize they're bullshit artists.
bryan callen
You know who I'm talking about.
brendan schaub
You know who.
You know why.
joe rogan
You know you do, and you've had them from the moment I met you in 94. But they lie to each other.
I met Brian in 94. He was surrounded by idiots.
I was like, what's going on here?
Who are these fucking people?
I try to drag you away slowly but surely.
I push those people off cliffs.
Slowly but surely, I separated him from most of them.
bryan callen
They were like, hey, your friend doesn't like me.
I was like, well, Joe's a little hard.
joe rogan
He came close to marrying one of them at a certain point in time.
I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Everybody else was like, good luck, brother.
Good luck, brother.
You know, it's going to work out.
I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Are you out of your mind?
Are you out of your mind?
It's just me and Patty.
We're the only ones who are telling him, get the fuck out of here.
You're not marrying her.
bryan callen
Joe did save me.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'll meet people, or I'll meet certain people, celebrities or not, and for some reason I'll be like, God, Rogue would fucking hate this person.
That's what I think of things now.
I'm like, God, they would butt heads.
bryan callen
The thing is that Joe will actually kind of let it be known, or at least just be kind of...
brendan schaub
Right away.
bryan callen
Just ignore them really hard, and I never do that.
joe rogan
Well, you can't ruin my life.
unidentified
I'm not going to let you ruin my life.
bryan callen
They're getting your life.
They'll ruin you.
It's almost like those people have energy.
He's afraid he's going to stick to them.
joe rogan
They do stick to you.
They become a part of your life, and then you have to deal with their bullshit.
You have to pretend that what they're saying is not retarded, and when you do that, you compromise the way you think and behave and communicate with people.
brendan schaub
But you nip it in the butt, right?
Even on your show, you nip it on the butt.
But even before we were going to do a show in here, this guy had this bullshit machine, and you're like, bro, this is fucking terrible.
Oh, that arm I don't have that bone in my body.
I try to help people's feelings.
But since meeting you, I'm getting better at it.
joe rogan
You can't do that because it's not bad for them.
I'm not saying you're a loser or you're a bad person.
I'm saying one plus one doesn't equal six.
You're saying it equals six.
I'm like, this is crazy.
bryan callen
There are two people I've known in my life who had really bad breath.
One was a girl and one was a guy.
Like, they have the worst breath.
And nobody wanted to tell them.
brendan schaub
The same guy we know?
bryan callen
No, that's another guy.
That's another guy.
brendan schaub
You have three.
joe rogan
You can live your whole life and have bad breath.
No one says a word.
bryan callen
And nobody wanted to say anything.
I kept saying, how do I tell this person?
And I never could, because I felt like I wasn't quite close enough, but it was always...
And so they've been walking around with bad breath their whole life.
brendan schaub
Bro, we have a mutual friend, and I left it up to Cal, and I go, bro, tell him his breath smells like pure shit.
unidentified
It was...
Bro, it would ricochet off the car window, and I'd be like, who farted in my car?
brendan schaub
Who farted in my car?
bryan callen
It was his breath.
unidentified
So I told Brian, I'm like, bro, please tell him for me.
brendan schaub
Brian's like, no, I'm not telling him.
bryan callen
Why do I have to tell him?
unidentified
I didn't know him that well.
So we just chilled for a nice three-hour car ride in this pure shit.
bryan callen
Just complete shit.
brendan schaub
I just saw him the other day, too.
bryan callen
The problem is, I don't know how, what do you tell, like, oh, you have bad breath, and what do you say to them?
Go to a doctor.
What's a doctor going to tell you?
brendan schaub
You think his wife would tell him.
bryan callen
I know.
joe rogan
Maybe her nose is broken.
Maybe she had a head injury.
When you have head injuries, your nose doesn't work that good anymore.
Marcus Davis lost a sense of smell for a long fucking time.
unidentified
Goddamn.
joe rogan
Head trauma.
That's one of the things that Rhonda Patrick talked about when we had her on the podcast.
She was talking about the mechanism that goes off in your brain to protect you.
When you start getting really serious head trauma, certain switches start shutting off.
unidentified
Jesus Christ, man.
joe rogan
Circuit breakers.
Sense of smell is a big one.
brendan schaub
Taste, right?
I know some guys have taste problems.
joe rogan
That's terrible.
bryan callen
Losing your taste and smell.
joe rogan
When you lose your sense of smell, a lot of times you lose your taste as well.
Yeah.
They're connected.
bryan callen
Yeah, they're connected.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, you're fine.
You're fine right now.
It's the, you know.
The guys who just continue to get that fuckin' head trauma over and, over and over and, over and, over and... - It's trouble.
And then the gate, what we're talking about, Nate.
brendan schaub
Dude, honestly, I'm in a good spot, man.
Like, I was telling Brian this the other day.
Like, before companions, like, dude, I can't, or before fight companions, before the podcast, sometimes I can't sleep at night.
I'm so excited to do it.
When our shirts get released, it's the same to me as when I fight.
I'm that excited for them to fucking drop and sell.
joe rogan
That's awesome, man.
brendan schaub
It's awesome.
joe rogan
As long as you're doing something you really enjoy, that is really the key to life.
brendan schaub
A purpose.
You want to wake up with a purpose.
joe rogan
Like these shows that we've been doing lately, you're working on new material and just like trying to get it together like it's exciting before while you're doing it and you're killing it's exciting and afterwards you're listening to the recordings trying to figure out how to tweak the joke and add this to it.
As long as you're doing something.
bryan callen
You're building something.
It's about building something.
joe rogan
So I think one of the big problems that we were talking about, like fighters have, is that once the career is over, there's no more progress.
bryan callen
Where do you place your energy?
joe rogan
Yeah, what's happening?
Where's your excitement?
brendan schaub
There's only so many gyms you can open.
And that's not going to fulfill the constant pulse you're always used to feeling.
I don't know what you do, man.
If I had an answer, believe me, I'd fucking tell everybody.
joe rogan
And that's why a lot of guys, like, they wind up going to drugs.
They wind up going to something to try to...
brendan schaub
I get it, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, recharge that excitement.
bryan callen
Yeah.
Get that juice.
I don't need it.
joe rogan
Get your shit together, bitches.
We're going to wrap this up nice and tight with a big fat beau.
Fighterandthekid.com.
Tony motherfucking Hinchcliffe in the house.
Tony, you got some dates coming up besides the ones with me?
What do you got?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I'm going to be in Toronto at Just for Laughs at the end of summer.
Whenever Toronto Just for Laughs is, so Google that shit.
joe rogan
That's in the summer, right?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't it?
TonyHinchcoff.com?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, TonyHinchcoff.com.
brendan schaub
And ours is actually T-F-A-T-K.com.
joe rogan
Oh, it's on Fire and the Kid?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Do you have that?
brendan schaub
We have thefireandthekidshop.com.
joe rogan
Okay.
But it's T-F-A-T-K. T-F-A-T-K. Thefighterandthekid.com.
This is the first letter of each of those things.
bryan callen
Come see me in San Francisco.
joe rogan
Brian Cowan with a Y on Twitter.
unidentified
Brendan Schaub in the motherfucking house.
joe rogan
A.K.A. Big Brown.
JoeRogan.net.
Tours.
Tour dates.
I've got a bunch of shit coming up.
I'm going to be with Tony July 10th.
We're going to be at the Ka Theater with Tom Segura.
A lot of shit coming up.
A lot of shit.
A lot of podcasts next week.
Until then, much love.
Big kiss.
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