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May 29, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #654 - Rich Vos
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brian redban
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joe rogan
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rich vos
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joe rogan
We're all in captivity in Ontario.
That's beautiful.
We live?
Hey!
I just got a tweet from Phil Demers, that dude who's on, the trainer, Wallace trainer.
They banned killer whale captivity in Ontario.
Rich Voss doesn't give a fuck about that, though.
Do you, Rich Voss?
rich vos
Are you kidding me?
One of my biggest missions in life is the killer whale.
The killer whale.
There's too much feedback.
I'm trying to get this.
joe rogan
Too much feedback?
What are you, Jimi Hendrix?
rich vos
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
Is there a hum?
rich vos
How do I turn it down?
brian redban
There's knobs, right?
joe rogan
Is there a hum?
rich vos
Not a hum.
I lied because I fucked up, so I wanted to make it look like there was a reason I fucked up.
Where do you turn it down?
What knob?
joe rogan
This one right here?
rich vos
Oh.
Well, you guys are testing one to there.
Oh my god.
That's a little weird.
joe rogan
How about that?
rich vos
No a little in between that.
Okay.
It's like a fucking I'm a good right there.
No, it sucks.
I'm like a prima donna when it comes to sound To tell you the truth, I hate wearing headphones.
joe rogan
Don't do you?
You don't have to wear them.
rich vos
I don't?
joe rogan
No, take them off.
unidentified
Fuck those things.
rich vos
I like the little ones I put in.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
rich vos
Look how perfect it is.
joe rogan
Sounds like we're talking.
rich vos
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Let's do this.
rich vos
I know.
joe rogan
We'll let Jamie handle everything.
Jamie, if shit gets weird, let us know.
Brian, are you going to go crazy and stick with the headphones?
brian redban
I like the headphones.
rich vos
You do?
joe rogan
He's a gangster.
Look at him over there.
Are you periscoping?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's live your life.
brian redban
Okay.
joe rogan
Did you go back to the little phone?
brian redban
Oh, that's the Samsung.
No, I'm using the Samsung Edge.
unidentified
It's really nice.
joe rogan
Oh, very nice.
brian redban
It actually works very well.
I'm very happy with it.
It's great.
joe rogan
I like that phone.
It's a very sweet phone.
Yeah, I got it for the Ting.
I got a GSM card.
brian redban
Yeah, that's what I did.
Unlocked phone.
And it's cool.
The camera is so amazing compared to it.
And if you compare the iPhone 6 with it, it's like night and day difference how much better.
unidentified
The camera?
brian redban
Yeah, the cameras.
joe rogan
I'm a big fan of that Samsung phone.
They make a slick phone.
That new one, the new Galaxy, the S6 and the S6 Edge, the quality is so much better than the 5. But I really wish they didn't have to go with the...
Now it's not waterproof anymore, and you don't have replaceable media storage.
brian redban
You can't take the battery out.
You know what's really good, though, is this one, I was completely dead, and it has such a fast charge on it in my car.
In like 30 minutes, it charged up to 56% of the battery.
In like 30 minutes, it was almost completely...
rich vos
It's great.
joe rogan
I like them, though.
I like them.
Are you anti-technology, Rich Ross?
rich vos
Well, I got this, the iPhone 6 Plus, because I want to make my little hands even look smaller when I hold this thing.
I can't tell you how many times I lay in bed trying to play Scrabble, and it falls out of my fucking hands, and it's just the most aggravating thing on the planet.
But, you know, what do I use it for?
I take some pictures, and maybe I'll record something, internet, Twitter.
What else do I need a fucking phone for?
joe rogan
I hear ya.
rich vos
Recording, that's it.
The videos I take of my kids, and that's it.
joe rogan
The cameras in these new phones are fucking incredible.
The people that make cameras must be so bummed out.
Because they used to think, those little point-and-click cameras that everybody used to have, who the fuck buys those now?
rich vos
A lady the other day took a picture, not only that, how about the people that buy the ones that are disposable?
How white trash are you that you're buying a disposable fucking camera?
unidentified
You've got to bring it somewhere and get it developed.
rich vos
These pictures are great, because then I'll send this to my iPad, to my MacBook, and I'll send them...
I don't even send them.
I put it right next to it, and it downloads to my iPad.
joe rogan
Did you ever see that Robin Williams movie, 24-hour photo?
brian redban
Oh yeah, it's one of my favorite movies.
joe rogan
It's a great movie.
Amazing.
But today you'd be like, why would you go?
It doesn't make any sense.
Why would you get developed?
Don't you have a printer?
brian redban
That wasn't that long ago.
Do you have any film that you haven't developed?
I just found a camera that when I was 20, I met a girl on AOL, and she lived in Chicago.
My mom's like, I'm going to Chicago for work.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, that was 20 years ago?
brian redban
It was like the first girl I ever met on AOL. So 95. AOL 1 or 2. And I met her on Thing, and we used to go back and forth, and my mom's like, I'm going to Chicago for work.
And I'm like, hey, that girl lives in Chicago.
So I met her, and we spent a day together in Chicago.
Don't remember what she looked like, but...
joe rogan
That text you sent me, someone's trolling you, obviously, right?
brian redban
Oh, yeah, yeah, I found out.
joe rogan
Of course.
brian redban
Yeah, he thought it was funny to say that he was my son.
joe rogan
Well, you'd have to be, you would have to have been like 16. 17. 17?
brian redban
But I was looking, and there was one girl that I had sex with that I don't remember who she was, and it could have been her.
rich vos
I'm sure she doesn't either.
joe rogan
What did you tell him?
Send me the pictures of me.
brian redban
Well, he said it was Asian.
I was like, oh, I had my first Asian a couple years ago.
rich vos
The worst is when you met her.
Like, I met this girl once, and she was hot, and I flew to Florida a couple days to have sex.
You know, and then, like, all of a sudden, I'm going out to lunch with her and her mother.
Like, what the fuck?
She's probably a stripper, so she's pure dysfunction.
And we go to a hotel.
All of a sudden, I fucking...
Right when I bust a fucking nut, All I think is, how am I going to get out of this whole situation?
I mean, I'm talking another day and a half of this fucking horribleness.
And she was hot.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
rich vos
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
But it matters enough to get you into the mess.
rich vos
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it's like anything.
Like when you're copping fucking freebase or crack, the whole excitement is going up there and getting through the guns and, you know, dealing, you know, and not fucking, you know what I mean?
And then you get, it's like you get to home and boom, now I got it.
I made it through, you know, the minefields.
I got the fucking crack.
I smoke it.
All right.
But the whole excitement leading up to it, you know, the best thing that ever happened to me with these fucking broads, when I pick them up and take them back to my place, In my city apartment, they can never stay.
I said, listen, you got to leave because my ex-wife drops my kids off in the morning and I can't have my kids seeing, you know, you.
Okay.
I don't want my ex-wife seeing you knowing that I went from her to you.
You know what I'm saying?
That's hilarious.
Getting them out is, you know, when you talk about traveling and getting laid.
joe rogan
It's just amazing the difference.
And I don't know if women...
I don't think they have this experience.
The difference in perspective of before you have sex with them and then after you have sex with them.
It's so radically different.
Like, before you have sex with them, you can't wait.
unidentified
You're like looking at her ass and looking at her waist and her tits.
joe rogan
You're like, oh, this is going to be a mess.
And then when you're done, you're like, oh, God, what am I doing?
That's the difference between being with a girl you really do care about and being with a girl that...
Your body just tricked you, you know?
And that can happen to a guy.
And that's why you know, like, if you have sex with a girl and then afterwards, you're hanging out and talking and cuddling and you love it.
You're like, oh, she's really nice.
I really like her.
I didn't get tricked this time.
It's like, you don't even know until the fog clears.
I go, oh, where are I? Oh, hello.
Hi.
brian redban
It's so weird how instant it is also.
It's immediate.
joe rogan
It's so disgusting.
rich vos
You could be with a girl and everything's great, like you say, and then all of a sudden, the way she throws a piece of garbage in the wastebasket in your room, you go, I hate her.
Just one little thing.
I was with this girl.
I'm telling you, it was right after my first divorce.
I was working South Carolina and I met this girl.
You couldn't have been any better looking.
Smart, great career, newscaster.
So in South Carolina, we're fooling around.
It was great.
I'm like, did I really find love again?
Right?
You know what I mean?
I was like, ah, she's beautiful, fun to be with.
She came to Alabama where I was working.
I guess, whatever.
It wasn't far.
Great weekend.
Then I'm in Florida and she flies down to see me.
And we're laying in bed.
And I'm really sick.
I have a fever.
And she goes to touch me.
She goes, what can I do?
And I go, well, the first thing is get your fucking arm off me.
Not like that.
I said, don't touch me.
And then I knew, like, you have to get out of here.
I can't do this.
And she was perfect.
Because I'm so fucking damaged.
In life that I'm going to destroy everything around.
You know what I mean?
When you have that damaged personality and that, you know, the whole, I'm not good enough, somehow you're going to fuck it up.
You know, that's what's great about Bonnie.
She's as damaged as I am.
Is she really?
Really?
Really?
unidentified
Let me tell you a story, okay?
rich vos
And we told on our radio, she grew up on a fucking farm, okay?
When she, I guess 11 or 10, she had to have a major operation, you know, something removed from down here.
I don't know what it was.
A penis?
No, God, I wish she still had one of those.
So, she had to have it removed.
unidentified
Right.
rich vos
11 years old and she lived in Cold Lake and her parents put her on a bus to go have the operation in like Toronto or wherever, 10 or 11 years old, maybe 9. By herself, because her parents couldn't leave because it was harvest season, and they were farmers.
They put a nine- or ten-year-old girl on the bus to go have part of her body taken out in the hospital, you know, and then come home.
You know what I mean?
I think maybe they visited her at one point, but she grew up, you know, poor in the beginning, sleeping on dirt floors, you know, and then they're You know, farmers and killing chickens and this and that.
And, you know, but she was always creative.
Brilliant fucking...
I read one of her books she made as a kid called Chicken Island.
You know, she wrote a book as a kid.
Just brilliant, brilliant.
And that's how my kid is.
And then if you don't think she's damaged...
She went out with Mark Cohen, who's a guitar act.
How can you not...
Nothing against a guy.
Good songs.
But she's a comic and a female.
joe rogan
What happened to that guy?
rich vos
Huh?
I don't know.
He was married, had kids, and his wife...
Did some cancer stuff or whatever.
I always got along with him.
joe rogan
He was a good guy.
rich vos
He was a nice guy.
He was a great guy.
Everybody liked him.
He was a great guy.
He was funny.
joe rogan
Is he out of business?
rich vos
I don't think so.
He's probably just doing whatever, you know.
joe rogan
Just never hear his name anymore.
Sometimes that happens, you know?
Like, you're around a guy all the time and then, for whatever reason, you don't hear their name anymore.
They just stop, like, exchanging circles, or, you know, your circles stop interacting with each other.
rich vos
Yeah, there was this guy, Anthony, I knew, and you would always hear his name.
joe rogan
Anthony...
rich vos
Kuma.
Kuma?
joe rogan
Kuma, yeah.
rich vos
And you don't hear his name anymore.
joe rogan
He's still preaching to the converted.
Do you know how many podcast subscribers he has?
Because he's subscription only, right?
rich vos
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which I think...
rich vos
22. 22 people?
No, I think he's doing all right.
joe rogan
I think he's doing all right.
He charges like five bucks a month or something, is that what it is?
rich vos
I think he's doing...
I've done this podcast.
It was a lot of fun when I went out there.
If he was in New York, and they are setting up in New York, then it'd be...
joe rogan
He needs to move to ad base, though.
If he moves to ad base, he'll be fucking huge.
He's really good.
He's funny.
He's a funny fucking guy.
rich vos
Not only is he...
He's very smart.
He's politically smart.
unidentified
Yes, very smart.
rich vos
He knows politics.
He knows what's going on.
joe rogan
But people are not going to pay...
They're not paying to subscribe to things.
Especially when, for the same amount, you can get all the channels on Sirius?
All of them?
How many shows do you do a week?
You do like three a week?
Do you do four a week?
rich vos
Yeah, but what's five dollars a month?
I mean, really, if you think about it...
joe rogan
To me?
It's not that much, but if you're broke, and you have to make your decisions, there's a lot of people that are broke.
A lot of people don't like Sirius for that very reason.
Because they have to think, okay, that's another five bucks, and this is another five bucks.
It all adds up.
If you're chipping away, that all adds up.
brian redban
Especially when there's so much free content nowadays.
Even with Periscope, I was just watching Burt Kreischer the other day for like an hour, and that's all free, and that was just like a podcast, but it was live.
joe rogan
Well, Joey does the morning joint.
Joey Diaz, every morning, gets up at 7 o'clock.
He lets everybody know.
He gives you a 10-minute warning on Twitter.
And at 7 o'clock, he lights a joint and starts talking shit.
And he talks shit for like five minutes.
And then he says, all right, go wash your pussy.
Have a good day, you motherfuckers.
unidentified
Go kill it!
rich vos
Go kill it out there!
joe rogan
And he gives you a little motivational speech.
But I think that that kind of shit is the future.
And he's going to get ads for Periscope.
That's what he's going to do.
That's how he's going to handle it.
That's the future.
rich vos
Yeah, I mean, look, Anthony, they're all set financially.
I don't know how long it's going to last.
I don't know how, you know, they did pretty well.
You know, his house.
Have you been to his house?
joe rogan
No, I've seen pictures of it, though.
rich vos
It's beautiful.
It looks like Victoria Gotti used to live there.
It's fucking beautiful.
You know, it's real, you know, fucking statues, pouring, whatever.
It's got money.
It's got fucking money.
unidentified
It's real Italian.
joe rogan
So that was from Syria?
Syria gave him a ton of money?
unidentified
Yeah.
rich vos
Yeah, you know, he was with them forever, those guys.
They were with N.E.W. and Sirius, you know.
joe rogan
So did Sirius want to get rid of him because they were paying so much money?
rich vos
I doubt it.
unidentified
Is that part of it?
rich vos
No, I think...
No, no.
Because they're corporate.
And once you say...
joe rogan
Brian thinks yes.
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
Brian thinks yes.
rich vos
You think it was over money?
brian redban
Oh, I think that there's a lot of money problems over at that place.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
There was an article about them cutting Howard Stern's money.
brian redban
I think they're cutting the fat is pretty much what they're probably thinking about right now.
unidentified
Yeah, but I... They just took a huge loan out.
joe rogan
Seriously?
brian redban
Yeah, like it was a year ago.
Millions and millions of dollars.
And this was like the second huge loan I think that they did just to kind of bail them out and give them some time.
rich vos
But I thought their stock went up.
I thought they were down to like...
brian redban
Yeah, to $1.30.
rich vos
Yeah, but it was at $0.10.
brian redban
Oh, yeah, yeah.
rich vos
So, I mean, you could have became rich all the time.
joe rogan
It was real high at one point in time.
rich vos
Was that $4 or $8, you know?
joe rogan
I don't understand stocks.
rich vos
I really don't.
joe rogan
It just makes no sense that a company could be worth four times as much with the products exactly the same.
Like, what's happening?
It can crash.
The stock can crash.
But what changed?
I think the idea of stocks is fucking completely ridiculous.
brian redban
Do you buy stock at all, Joe?
unidentified
No!
brian redban
You should invest in Twitter right now, though, with this Periscope.
joe rogan
Twitter doesn't make any money at all, man.
I have people that do it.
I mean, I do have stocks.
I have...
I have funds.
I invest in a bunch of different things.
But quite honestly, I think the days of people making fuck-tons of money just on stocks, those days are numbered.
So it's weird times now.
I don't really know what I'm talking about.
I should say that.
I know almost nothing about finances.
rich vos
I invested, and this was years ago, I think maybe $2,000.
And my problem is I have...
A gambling problem like every other problem.
So every day I'm looking at it to see if it went up or down, you know, and then it's, you know, I'm going, this is doing great.
Then all of a sudden it dropped and I just said, fuck it, I got to stop just because...
All I'm doing is thinking about is this thing, and it's only like fucking 2,000 bucks or 3,000, but...
brian redban
What did you invest in?
rich vos
It was a mutual fund.
So it was a bunch of things together, right?
And I ended up saying, I'm done with this.
I made like 400 bucks, but I would have lost it all.
I would have lost.
And it wasn't much, but it just, it consumes your head.
You know, because if you're in Vegas gambling...
You're thinking, oh fuck, I lost this here.
If I get it back here, if I do this, if I just get 300 today, you know what I mean?
Then if I get even, then maybe I can fucking win a little here.
And that's all your head's going on when you're gambling in Vegas.
Numbers and numbers are going through your fucking head nonstop in Vegas or at any casino.
And I can't even imagine what stocks...
joe rogan
It's the same thing.
It's the same exact thing.
rich vos
Yeah, you're sitting there all day.
Say you're investing in 10 different companies.
All day long, you're back and forth.
This fucking company's losing.
I gotta throw money over here from here, you know?
Fuck, it's too much.
Just go, shoot craps, and either win or fucking lose.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It certainly is gambling in that a lot of guys that are attracted to gambling, they get involved in stocks.
And they get the same itch.
The same itch.
It's going up.
And fuck it, Salick!
Look at the floor!
When you see the floor and they're yelling and screaming at each other, which I don't even think they do anymore.
I don't think they do it the same way.
I mean, I think when we were talking about that with people that understand...
Who the fuck was it we were talking with when they were talking about how they've...
That people have bought property closer to Wall Street so they could trade quicker because they're trading with algorithms.
And it's all about, like, nanoseconds.
Like, literally.
The distance in the pipe.
Between the office and the floor, the trading floor, makes the difference between selling and buying at the right time.
brian redban
Wow, it's like a ping.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
So they invested in all this real estate around that area.
Real estate around Wall Street is fucking worth astronomical amounts of money.
All you need is a small office.
You take that small office, you put all your servers and all your stuff in there, you do all your transactions from there, and it's amazing.
rich vos
Well, a lot of the stuff I learned about Wall Street and stock was from Trading Places, so I know a lot about it.
joe rogan
That's a good reference point.
unidentified
They know.
joe rogan
That was a good movie.
rich vos
I see these guys, but during the whole market crash and the banking, and I'm not really...
The smartest when it comes to the subject, when people lost their homes, their fucking life earnings, not one of those cocksuckers went to jail, okay?
But you fucking, you know, do whatever, you know, throw, you know...
You know, Martha Stewart in jail for a couple, but no one from Wall Street was ever indicted for anything.
joe rogan
Yeah, no one other than that Bernie Madoff guy, but that guy was just stealing.
That was a totally different animal.
rich vos
That wasn't Wall Street.
That was to divert your attention from Wall Street.
That was just a Ponzi scheme.
Well, no.
He had nothing to do with Wall Street.
That was a Ponzi scheme.
He wasn't working out on Wall Street.
He was just scamming people for money.
That wasn't the banking, giving mortgages to people that can't afford them.
It started off with the real estate salesman.
Yes, we can get you into this house.
Then to the broker, then to the bank.
And they're giving out these fucking houses to people.
That kept people's minds off of really what was going on down in Wall Street.
Because it happened at the same time.
joe rogan
What amazed me about that Bernie Madoff thing is that people that understood money got robbed.
A lot of people, I guess it was just greed.
He was offering such a large percentage of return on your money that people just said, look, I'm going to take a chance, this fucking guy.
Whatever he's doing, he's doing it right.
unidentified
People make it 25% returns, all those crazy returns.
joe rogan
But he just banked on people not cashing in.
Which is just amazing.
rich vos
But when's enough enough, too?
Like, how much money?
Like, there's people that lost millions.
You know, so when's enough enough for a person?
You know what I mean?
Like, look, take corporations.
When's enough enough where you're going to start treating your fucking employees like human beings?
joe rogan
Corporations are very tricky, because with corporations, it's all about they have to continue to make more money than they made the last year.
It's all about infinite growth.
So, like, if you made a million dollars this year, you have to show them, you know, in the first quarter of the next year, we're up 5%.
And you have to keep doing that.
If you don't keep doing that, then you're losing money because you have stockholders.
And your main obligation is to earn these stockholders' money.
That's what you have to do.
And if you don't do that, they'll get rid of you as a CEO. Well, it's the same as any comedy club.
rich vos
If I go in a comedy club, if they make money and I make money, we're happy.
As long as you don't lose, you know, I fight with comedy clubs.
I go, well, you didn't lose last time I was there.
Well, we didn't make well.
Look, you didn't lose.
There's a profit, okay?
I talked to these employees from Costco after a show a couple weeks ago.
They're fucking paid 30-something an hour, health insurance, you know, kickbacks from whatever they spend there.
I mean, this corporation is great to their employees.
unidentified
Costco is.
rich vos
Yeah, they're fucking great.
I'm talking to these ladies that have been there 20 years, 18 years, that are making, you know, 35 bucks an hour and getting health benefits.
And whenever they buy products there, a percentage of that goes into their...
Whatever fund.
So, I mean, it's a great corporation.
But there's other ones, I don't want to say names because I don't want to get fucking sued, but you know.
When's enough enough?
How much money does a certain family need before they start taking care of their fucking employees?
joe rogan
For a lot of folks, I think what happens is that's the only way that they keep score at things.
You know, the only way you keep score is money.
And if you're not making more money than you were making before, you feel like you're losing.
They never feel like they're accomplishing anything unless they're making money.
They don't have a quantifiable score on anything else.
It's not like, you know, like if you were doing something else that you really enjoyed doing on top of making that money, you know, like something competitive maybe.
I think there's a lot of what goes on in business is competition, you know?
I mean, it's a lot of it...
Is sort of what made human beings human beings in the first place It's like this desire to constantly move ahead constantly, you know Make everything better progress keep pushing forward like that whole desire that led to cities agriculture That's the same sort of instinct that leads people to continually pursue and you get greedy and greedier Yeah, it's drive.
rich vos
Yeah.
The best point is when they don't have anything else to fall back on.
You know, when they...
I don't know.
I mean, look, you look at Trump.
I don't know about his...
I know he knows how to build fucking golf courses.
This fucking guy knows how to build a golf course.
joe rogan
Well, you're a golfer, so you understand that.
rich vos
And I've been to some of his courses.
Does he golf?
Yeah, he golfs.
You know, I've heard stories, but he golfs.
joe rogan
Heard stories about what?
He sucks?
rich vos
No, I heard he's okay.
I heard he's okay.
joe rogan
What stories have you heard?
rich vos
That he plays a lot of golf.
joe rogan
Does he gamble?
rich vos
Oh, I don't think so.
I don't know.
I never...
I don't know.
No, I'm just saying he'll fly it on his helicopter, you know, but he likes to win.
He likes to win in life.
And maybe, like, say, let's even say we'll use a Malcolm X term by any means necessary.
He likes to win.
Okay, so I don't know.
joe rogan
I feel racial tension in the room.
rich vos
No, no, no.
Do you feel it?
brian redban
Awkward boner.
rich vos
But, okay, so he's his...
He's well off in life.
But at least on the side, he's doing something that gives him passion.
He's building these golf courses and he's going to play.
And I'm not pro-Donald Trump or anti.
I'm just saying that this is a guy that...
Besides building big fucking skyscrapers all over New York and everywhere, his thing is building and playing golf.
joe rogan
Remember when he was trying to say that Obama wasn't born in America?
He was chasing that down.
Obama was born in Kenya and his birth certificate was fake.
rich vos
But you know what's gonna be funny?
When that all comes out and Obama says, you know what, you guys?
joe rogan
After it's over, after he did eight years.
rich vos
He's done luck.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
In the interest of total disclosure, I am, in fact, a radical Muslim terrorist.
I've been infiltrating and trying to weaken America from the inside.
All of you white people in Iowa, you are all right.
rich vos
Yeah, the white people in Iowa.
joe rogan
All those fucking crazy Christians, the Take Back America folks.
Have you heard the Rick Santorum song, Take Back America?
We played it yesterday.
rich vos
Who's ever in office, the other side's going to hate him and trash him and do whatever.
I mean, look, it but stunk.
Obama's not the best president on the planet either.
None of them, none of, you know, if you're a fucking Jew that votes for Obama, there's got to be, I mean, he's not really, really pro-Israel.
You know, he's not anti, but he's not the pro-Israel.
joe rogan
So if you're a Jew, you have to be pro-Israel.
Is that the deal?
unidentified
Well, no, because here's the thing.
rich vos
You don't have to be pro-Israel, but anti-Semitism that runs rapid throughout Europe.
joe rogan
Rampant?
rich vos
That's the word.
joe rogan
I guess it's rapid as well.
rich vos
No, I'm rampant.
This isn't fucking Bonnie or Norton correcting me.
I say some wrong words every now and then, but you know what I'm saying.
But you know what I'm talking about.
What did I say?
joe rogan
Rampant.
I'm pretty sure you say rapid.
Did you say rapid?
rich vos
No, rampant or rapid.
I bet you can say ramp.
It runs rampant or rapid.
joe rogan
Rampant or rapid.
rich vos
I said rampant.
Let's look it up.
joe rogan
Rampant is not it.
Rampant.
rich vos
I said rampant.
What did I say?
joe rogan
It's rampant.
Rampant.
rich vos
Okay, what did I say?
Rampant?
joe rogan
You said rapid.
I'm pretty sure.
rich vos
It runs rapid.
joe rogan
It could have been anything.
rich vos
It could have been.
But you knew what I was talking about.
joe rogan
Basically.
rich vos
Okay.
Anti-surgery.
joe rogan
Just in case someone listening is young and impressionable, and they might go use that same word, like when they're going for a job interview or something like that.
Well, you know, I think disinformation runs rapid throughout this world.
rich vos
Okay.
Okay.
We'll talk about a couple things I know that I can't fuck up.
joe rogan
Jews, Obama, what?
rich vos
Okay, so the anti-Semitism throughout Europe, that's out of control.
joe rogan
Have you seen that thing in France?
They had this guy dressed up as a Jew walking through these Muslim neighborhoods in Paris.
Like, whoa!
There's some fucking serious...
That's obviously where Charlie Hebdo happened, where they killed those guys for drawing those cartoons of Mohammed.
There's a lot of anti-Semitism in Europe.
I was talking to Ari about it and Ari and his brother, his brother actually lives in Europe and he said that essentially they were just like really tolerant of all sorts of different religions and a lot of like really radical people moved there because of that because it was a good place for them.
rich vos
Well, it's going to overflow.
Whatever happens, it overflows.
The anti-Semitism in this country.
The people in this country really think Jews run this country.
They really think that, huh?
They don't?
joe rogan
I've been getting these newsletters.
rich vos
I was explaining to a comic, you run this country.
There's 3% of us in this country.
3%.
Now...
joe rogan
They've done really well, though.
rich vos
Yes, yes.
Yes, we're good.
Yeah, but how could you...
If we did, that would say the other 90%.
97% is pretty fucking...
brian redban
We need to get this number down.
unidentified
3%.
rich vos
Now, wait a second.
Now, wait a second.
And I'm saying this is...
You know the wasps run this country, fucking Walmart, Chase Manhattan, it's all fucking waspy old school money.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
But this fucking world and country could not survive without Jews.
Medicine, science, the arts...
We have given back more to this country.
joe rogan
You?
You're a part of that?
rich vos
Yes, I am.
I kill on stage every time.
Listen to me.
If you're in Ventura this weekend at the Ventura Harbor...
joe rogan
Oh, the Harbor Comedy Club?
rich vos
Yeah, I'm there Friday.
joe rogan
I heard it's a great place.
rich vos
Friday through Sunday.
joe rogan
I heard they have top-notch comedians there.
rich vos
I'm there this week.
unidentified
You're there this week!
rich vos
I don't fail.
Okay, a word or two might get messed up, but you'll know what I'm saying, but I'm not going to fucking fail.
So, Jews have given back to society.
We've won more Nobel Prizes percentage for science and medicine than anybody else.
joe rogan
That's true.
European Jews.
They're like number one when it comes to Nobel Prizes for science.
rich vos
These phones right here, where do you think that technology came from?
joe rogan
LSD. Koreans.
rich vos
Jews.
unidentified
Jews.
joe rogan
No, no, they're Chinese people and Steve Jobs.
He did acid.
Steve Wozniak.
He was the genius behind it all.
rich vos
Is he Jewish?
No, no.
They're the ones who throw the technology in them.
joe rogan
Oh.
Jews?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Are you sure?
rich vos
Yes.
joe rogan
Do you know what he's talking about?
rich vos
There's part of the phone right here to hear Jews.
Okay?
Three-fifths of this phone.
joe rogan
That's the part where the notifications pop up.
rich vos
Right here, this area.
We're Asian, okay?
joe rogan
Asian?
rich vos
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
rich vos
This area right here down in the bottom corner?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
rich vos
You know.
joe rogan
Italians.
My people don't contribute shit.
unidentified
Yes, you do.
joe rogan
I'll never buy a Ferrari, ever.
The fucking tires will fly off on the highway.
rich vos
You guys are great.
joe rogan
My people don't pay attention.
rich vos
Construction?
What, are you kidding me?
You run the construction?
joe rogan
Maybe.
Barely.
Artistic stuff, but nothing engineering-wise.
I don't trust them.
rich vos
You know, Italians, I've got to admit, they've had it a lot.
joe rogan
I'm not impressed.
rich vos
Oh, you're not?
joe rogan
I'm not impressed with my own people.
rich vos
I don't know.
You didn't see Boardwalk Empire?
unidentified
I did.
rich vos
I saw a little bit of it.
joe rogan
I think that when it comes to technology, the people that I'm most impressed with are the Japanese and the Germans.
The Japanese and the Germans seem to, especially when it comes to engineering, like cars, automotive engineering, It's hard to fuck with those two people.
The Japanese and the Germans, like, that's it.
You know, Americans are like a third now.
Americans, like, the new American cars are pretty fucking good.
Like, have you seen those new Cadillacs that look like spaceships?
CTSVs?
Fucking beautiful, man.
I mean, they finally nailed it.
Like, I drove one of those Escalades, I rented an Escalade, It's amazing.
The new one is fucking fantastic.
It is a great car.
It handles like a much smaller car.
I mean, it's an enormous SUV, but they have this magnetic control suspension, and it handles like an S-Class Mercedes.
It's incredible.
The entire dashboard is a screen.
The dashboard is like a laptop.
There's no real gauges.
It's a laptop screen.
It's an LCD screen.
unidentified
Very nice.
brian redban
That seems like also a bad idea in some ways, doesn't it?
unidentified
You know what else is great?
No, it's great.
joe rogan
The navigation system is fucking huge.
So you get this huge screen that's all your gauges, your gauge cluster, it's all LCDs, and then to the right, the navigation screen is fucking massive.
brian redban
How much does that start off at?
joe rogan
They're expensive.
brian redban
And if it's really daylight, can you not see?
No, it goes dim.
joe rogan
It has a light sensor in it.
So it turns dark.
It turns black when it's at nighttime, and it turns white when it's at daytime.
That's what it looks like.
rich vos
Look at that.
joe rogan
See that LCD cluster there?
That is all one big screen.
Like all that shit you see where it's two gauges, it's not really two gauges.
That's all one flat screen, and so is the thing to the right, the navigation screen.
I was very impressed.
brian redban
Why is there a face right there?
joe rogan
That's someone's tits.
I don't know.
It's probably someone calling you or something.
I would totally buy one of those.
You know, I have the Lexus, that big Lexus SUV, which I love, but I would definitely buy one of these Cadillacs.
rich vos
You know, it's so funny.
I have two German cars, but I don't have navigation in them.
What?
Well, I have a 2013 Mercedes.
joe rogan
No navigation.
rich vos
But I have...
You know what's funny?
I have a Garmin or whatever, but you can tell it's getting old.
And this isn't a bit.
This is true, but it will be a bit as of this weekend.
When she talks to me, she's breaking up.
It's like she's getting old and dying, the voice in my Garmin.
Like, she'll go, make a turn, exit, and then it'll stop.
And she'll stop talking.
And then it'll pick up again.
And I feel like the whole thing is she's dying.
Whoever the lady is, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
It's so outdated that the fucking, you could feel, I have to put it to rest.
And get a car with navigation in it.
joe rogan
You know what the problem is?
All of them can't fuck with this.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is the best.
When I Google something, I want to know what it is, and then it says directions, and I press directions, and it goes Bluetooth through my stereo.
brian redban
Oh, Waze, man, with the police?
Like, you know when the police are up ahead?
joe rogan
Do you know the police are using Waze, and they're faking police stops?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're calling in fake ones to Waze just to fuck with the whole system?
brian redban
Yeah.
rich vos
Well, I haven't used this yet.
It eats up a lot of data, doesn't it?
joe rogan
I guess so.
rich vos
I don't know.
It doesn't?
joe rogan
What, are you worried about your data?
brian redban
Yeah, switch to T-Mobile.
joe rogan
Cutting on your prices down at the Ventura?
rich vos
Well, let me explain something to you, okay?
I have three fucking kids.
Two of them else are on my phone.
Okay, two older daughters that I have to cut loose.
joe rogan
How old are they?
24 and 22. They're still on your plan?
rich vos
Yes.
I know.
Cut them loose.
joe rogan
Get a fucking job, kid.
rich vos
No, my daughter, 22 years old, just moved to Houston, called me last week, 22. I just got hired starting at $50,000 a year.
That's pretty fucking good for a 22-year-old, isn't it?
In Houston, in New York.
joe rogan
What does she do for a living?
rich vos
Huh?
She's a buyer for clothing.
My other daughter graduated.
joe rogan
For 22, that's a great gig.
rich vos
That's fucking a real good gig.
brian redban
I'll put her on my family plan.
unidentified
Give me her a number.
rich vos
I'd rather give her a number to Farrakhan than give it to you.
brian redban
Seriously, if you're concerned about data, as an example, I just switched over to T-Mobile.
$100 a month, you could have up to five phones and unlimited everything, data, everything.
You could have up to five phones on it.
joe rogan
That's pretty amazing.
rich vos
On what, T-Mobile?
brian redban
T-Mobile, and it's got the best network, at least in Los Angeles, it's the best network.
Way better than Verizon.
joe rogan
Better than Verizon as far as phone calls?
brian redban
I've had both Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint compared to T-Mobile in the last six months.
And Verizon actually was the worst where I lived in Los Angeles.
joe rogan
It might just be where you live.
And that's important.
You've got to find out where you live.
I used to live in a spot where I could only use AT&T. AT&T was the only thing that worked in my house.
brian redban
Comedy store, Verizon, was almost zero bars.
On T-Mobile, it's like 30 upload.
joe rogan
Well, that doesn't make any sense, because I use the Verizon at the Comedy Store all the time, and it works perfect.
brian redban
Yeah, I'll do a speed test with you tonight or tomorrow.
joe rogan
With a download test?
brian redban
Download and upload.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Maybe that, but as far as phone calls, which is all I use it for, other than occasionally I do Periscope from there, which I like doing now.
brian redban
It's fun.
rich vos
Yeah, but this phone, I bought this iPhone 6. I bought it through Verizon, not through Apple.
brian redban
You just take that phone in.
They'll buy it from you.
They'll pay your contract charge.
rich vos
They'll pay me off.
They'll get me...
Because once you're, you know...
I mean, I'm fucking locked in with Verizon...
You know what I mean?
It's just some gangster shit they're doing.
brian redban
They'll pay all the contracts and everything off.
rich vos
Just to get you out of it?
brian redban
They're losing money like crazy, but this new president that T-Mobile has, he's an amazing guy.
Dude, I've made fun of T-Mobile my whole entire life.
It was the best switch I've ever made.
rich vos
Now you're saying it's unlimited data.
brian redban
Unlimited everything.
joe rogan
How long before they have it where it's like in China?
In China, you could be in the middle of the forest and you get five bars.
They say that it's unbelievable.
Like, they have the best cell phone signals everywhere.
Is that 5G? I don't know what they have.
brian redban
5G is about to come out.
joe rogan
Is it really?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
When is that coming out?
brian redban
The next three years, I think is what they're saying.
joe rogan
What is that going to be like?
Instant.
brian redban
Crazy fast.
Like, yeah, super stupid fast.
joe rogan
Instant movies.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
HD, 4K. Like, as you're taking off, you go, oh, I need this movie.
And before it hits the air...
brian redban
Yep.
joe rogan
You have the movie.
brian redban
It's awesome.
rich vos
I love this phone.
joe rogan
It's a great phone.
rich vos
I love this phone.
joe rogan
It's a great phone.
The top-end phones now, like the Samsung, the Galaxy S6, and the iPhone 6, they're amazing.
It's hard to complain.
rich vos
Fucking Skyping with my kids.
Yeah, it's amazing.
It's just amazing, this stuff.
joe rogan
What is that?
unidentified
How fast?
brian redban
10 gigabytes per second, so 10 gigs per second.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's insane!
Oh my god.
Fast enough to deliver a full-length HD movie on your phone in a matter of seconds.
brian redban
10 times faster than Google Fiber and 40 times faster than 4G. That is fucking incredible.
joe rogan
10 times faster than Google Fiber is mind-blowing.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
We're probably going to wind up doing the podcast through that.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Once it's up.
We'll probably wind up doing that.
rich vos
And when you start using that, thank the Jews.
joe rogan
The Jews.
I guarantee it's like a Korean dude who created that.
Let's find out.
Jamie, get on it.
Nokia.
Korea.
No, that's like Sweden, isn't it?
brian redban
Nokia.
joe rogan
Nokia is European.
Might be Jews.
brian redban
The ringtone sounds Jewish.
joe rogan
Might be the Jews.
Might be the Jews if it's Nokia.
I think Nokia is a European company.
brian redban
What is Nokia?
joe rogan
Find out.
I'm pretty sure.
brian redban
What is Nokia?
joe rogan
But Nokia sounds Japanese.
brian redban
It's a Finnish.
joe rogan
Finnish.
Sounds Japanese though, right?
Nokia.
unidentified
Hi!
What, Nokia?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Finnish.
brian redban
Whatever Finnish is.
joe rogan
From Finland.
No Jews in Finland.
unidentified
They hide.
joe rogan
They run from Finland.
rich vos
They're all Vikings up there.
Do you fucking watch the Americans?
The Russians are kidnapped.
joe rogan
You and everything Voss is like, didn't you see Trading Places?
Don't you watch the Americans?
rich vos
Okay.
You learn.
I'm telling you.
joe rogan
You learn from the TV box.
That's how it works.
It's a fucking rapid ascension to grace or whatever it is.
Rapid discrimination.
rich vos
Here's what Joe Rogan started, and he didn't even know he started this.
We're doing our podcast, Bonnie and I. And I don't know if we got a tweet or a message that Rogan...
And we look up, we respect you, we like you, we think you're great, and, you know, we're big fans.
unidentified
But...
rich vos
No, no, no, no, that's the...
No, the but is what you did.
And there's no reason for us to even worry about this, but when we heard Rogan in a tweet saying, "Tom and Christine are the funniest comedy couple on the planet," and Bonnie and I were a little hurt, so we had "Tom and Christine are the funniest comedy couple on the planet," and Bonnie and I'm sorry.
And we said, "That's okay because they could be.
I don't know them from Adam." I've never met them.
I hear his name and her name.
I never heard them.
I never heard their podcast.
But Bonnie and I, we put it out there.
If you listen to our podcast, it's a long thing.
Tom and Christine cease and desist.
Stop.
We were the first, but then we looked into it.
They did their podcast before ours.
But we challenged everybody.
Any comedy couple to tennis.
joe rogan
Okay, that's not comedy, though.
I didn't say they were the best tennis comedy couple.
rich vos
Well, I mean, I don't believe in competing.
joe rogan
How about wrestle them?
rich vos
No, tennis.
joe rogan
How about let's have an oil wrestle match?
rich vos
Tennis, you know, and we said, you know, we will play them in tennis.
joe rogan
Who's better at Monopoly?
brian redban
Roast battle.
Roast battle.
rich vos
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
There we go.
Double team roast battle.
rich vos
I don't even know them, but I'm going to tell you right now, they don't want to get involved in a roast battle with Rich Voss and Bonnie McFarlane.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm telling you, man.
I'll do it in their house.
joe rogan
Look, you are a very funny comic, and so is Bonnie, and so are they.
I haven't seen Bonnie do stand-up in a long time, but Bonnie is fucking hilarious.
rich vos
She's brilliant.
joe rogan
She's a very funny comic.
And your movie that you did, we should plug that movie because it's fucking awesome.
rich vos
Okay.
joe rogan
Women aren't funny.
It's great.
It's fucking great.
It's really great.
And you can get it on iTunes.
It's out there right now and you should get it to support it because Bonnie edited that whole fucking thing herself.
She directed it and edited it.
She's a monster.
She knocked it out of the park.
But I'm just, I'm around Tom and Christina on a regular basis.
If I was around you guys, I'd probably maybe say the same thing about you guys, but I'm around them all the time.
I'm telling you, Christina Pazitzky murdered at the Comedy Store last week so hard.
It was painful to watch.
It wasn't last week, because last week I was in Vegas, so it had to be the weekend before.
She fucking destroyed.
I mean leveled the place.
And she said afterwards, she goes, I'm finally starting to get this room.
She had a late spot.
And it was a long show.
She actually went on after me.
I brought her up.
She fucking murdered, dude.
She's really good.
rich vos
I'm not saying stand-up.
I've heard nothing good about her.
Well, that's all I've said.
What you're saying, but I'm talking podcast.
Has he ever made her cry and walk off the podcast?
joe rogan
No, they have a really good relationship.
It's very different than yours.
rich vos
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Has she ever blown him on their podcast?
brian redban
Probably.
joe rogan
I don't know.
rich vos
Maybe.
joe rogan
Has Bonnie blown you while you guys were doing a podcast?
unidentified
Of course.
Yes.
rich vos
We'll do anything for hits.
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
rich vos
That's what we're about.
joe rogan
Did you get hard or only like three quarters?
rich vos
You know what's the worst?
When you're fucking jerking off and you're not really hard and you cum and you're going, how the fuck did I cum and I'm not even hard?
I'm just getting old.
joe rogan
It's also just disinterested because I did it once when I was 23. Bonnie says...
rich vos
Bonnie says every year she gives me one extra second.
This is so funny.
I could do anything with a girl.
So I'm up to nine seconds.
We've been married nine years, right?
So I have nine seconds where I can do anything I want with a girl for nine seconds.
joe rogan
So you can fuck a girl for nine seconds.
Are you going to hang on for 20?
For the 20 year anniversary?
rich vos
Yeah.
joe rogan
The other day...
rich vos
The other day she blew me and I came so quick and she started, she said, I'm starting to rethink that whole nine second thing.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny that if a girl just puts your dick in her mouth, that's not as bad as if you cum.
If you come, then it's like you've finalized the agreement.
You've signed the mortgage papers.
rich vos
It's great.
It's a human car wash for your dick.
Not only does it feel good, you're getting your dick cleaned as she's blowing you with her fucking mouth.
joe rogan
That's one way to look at it.
But what I was saying is, it's weird that she's concerned not just that a girl's blowing you, because a girl is still blowing you for the nine seconds, but that you came.
Like, that's the issue, that you cum.
Like, if you didn't cum, it wouldn't be as bad.
Like, if a girl blows you for nine seconds, time's up, oh, I was so close.
Like, that's better.
unidentified
But if a girl sucks your dick and you're like, Yahoo!
rich vos
Well, here's what I would do.
If I ever use this nine-second rule, obviously I would jerk off until the point of entry.
Now do it.
Now do it for nine seconds, and then I'd fucking explode.
joe rogan
But you would have a lot of pressure.
I mean, you might not.
rich vos
There's no pressure for me when it comes to coming.
There's none.
I'm going to fucking bust the...
I am the most disappointing person when it comes to sex.
I am fucking the worst.
joe rogan
I bet there's a lot of dudes out there that are up in arms right now.
They'll tell you they're more disappointed than you.
rich vos
No, I just...
Because when you get...
You know, you don't do it for so long when you're married.
You know, two weeks, three weeks, whatever.
You know, we'd rather...
You know, do you want to do it?
Eh, let's get a snack.
Whatever.
You know what I mean.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
And it's just not...
We don't love each other.
Just, yeah, what the fuck?
So then it builds up.
You know the fucking buildup.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
rich vos
You know, and then, you know, I just go, tell me one dumb story of you fucking a professor or anything.
And then I... Boom.
unidentified
Boom.
brian redban
What do you think you're going to use your nine seconds on?
Have you got to pick the girl?
Are you going to go old and black?
Are you going to go young and red?
rich vos
He's got to be uncut.
unidentified
I mean cut.
joe rogan
Ethiopian.
rich vos
A bushman.
joe rogan
Leaves over his dick.
Put the spear down and suck it.
rich vos
The best way for fucking for me, and I don't know how I got this, is from behind.
joe rogan
That's your best way?
rich vos
Yeah, well, you don't come as quick.
You don't have to look at the person.
You know, it's just...
It's kind of like...
It's a good...
joe rogan
More animalistic?
rich vos
Yeah, it's more fucking...
It's more control.
brian redban
You can imagine it's a guy.
unidentified
Huh?
brian redban
You can imagine it's a guy.
rich vos
Nah, let's not get crazy.
I'm not Norton.
So...
Whatever.
So we hear this thing that you say about Tom and Christian.
We don't know them.
joe rogan
So you want to play tennis against them?
rich vos
Well, now I'm starting to think about this roast battle.
I'm kind of liking that other idea of the roast battle.
brian redban
That'd be great.
Double team?
unidentified
It'd be great as long as you can pick the judges.
joe rogan
Roast Battle is very dependent upon judges.
You gotta make sure you get actual comics as judges.
Not some friend of someone that sneaks on or someone that's grandfathered in.
You gotta make sure you get good comics.
That's a big part of Roast Battle.
Make sure you get good judges.
rich vos
I went the other night to the store and Jeff goes, do you want to help?
joe rogan
Jeff's perfect at it.
It's a goddamn great show.
When they do that Roast Battle, when those guys jump up, when someone nails somebody, those guys jump up and do their dances.
Oh my God.
They had a suicide bomb once where the guy had a vest on, pressed a button, some things flew up.
They got confetti that flies through the air.
I mean, they do some wild shit.
It's a great goddamn show.
rich vos
It's a good idea.
It's very funny.
joe rogan
But they've had people write articles about it, negative articles about it, because they'll say anything.
All bets are off.
It is the fucking nastiest show in Hollywood.
But that's what you know going in.
It is fiction.
Part of comedy sometimes is saying really low, fucked up, racist, homophobic, sexist shit.
Including whites to blacks, blacks to whites, women to men.
It's the most hurtful, cutting shit you can say.
And everybody knows what you're doing.
Everybody knows that's the jokes.
That's how Roaster's set up.
rich vos
And they even had the racist guy in the corner.
joe rogan
They have a white table.
What's his name?
Earl.
brian redban
What's Earl's last name?
rich vos
Hilarious comics.
unidentified
This guy is funny.
joe rogan
They're playing characters.
They're playing racist characters.
But people have complained about it and wrote blogs about it.
We should find who those fucking people are and ban them from every comedy club in the country.
Just fuck you.
rich vos
How can you not get it?
How can you not get it?
joe rogan
Well, how can you pretend that what that is is, you know, that these are real statements?
rich vos
Look, the Comedy Central roasts, some of the most vile things are said.
But just because it's Comedy Central, they can get away.
And I'm for it.
joe rogan
Listen, Comedy Central roasts, take that, multiply it by five, and that's roast battle.
Like, literally.
brian redban
The next one's going to be amazing.
It's Kimberly Condon versus PDC. Pete's going down.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Pete's in deep trouble.
brian redban
Kim's 4-0, and I think Pete might be 1-5 or something.
Pete's a monster.
joe rogan
1-5 means he won one time and lost five times.
brian redban
5-1, I mean.
rich vos
Yes.
brian redban
That's a numbers game.
rich vos
It's not a good statistic.
joe rogan
People don't understand sports.
I give it all quotes.
I'm like, wait, what?
rich vos
Put it all on the team.
The two guys the other night, they both were, I think, 4-0.
That's the first time I've ever went to it.
One was Indian and one was some sloth.
joe rogan
Sloth?
rich vos
I mean, just big.
joe rogan
Big fat guy?
rich vos
But he was fun.
They had some great lines.
Were you there?
brian redban
I watched it on Periscope.
rich vos
They had some good fucking lines.
joe rogan
It's a joke writing thing.
I mean, that's really what it is.
It's a great show, though.
It's perfect length.
You go, it's like an hour long.
It's amazing.
rich vos
It was a lot of fun.
joe rogan
The comedy store...
It is on fire right now.
Last night, okay?
Last night there was two shows, two sold-out shows in the fucking belly room.
We do this, um...
We just started doing this.
Nick Youssef and I started doing this new material show.
When you go up there, you have to do all your new shit.
Like, you can't do any established jokes.
If you've done a bit more than, like, I think we came up with a number, like, five to seven times.
It's like, after that amount, like, it's over.
Like, you can't do it anymore.
It's not new.
You know?
And...
We had all these comics go up, did that.
That was sold out.
Then there was a dollar show.
One dollar to get in.
And it was like a doorman, all the doorman put together.
That was sold out too.
D'Elia did that show.
Then I go over to the main room and Bill Burr, Magical, Bert Kreischer, I went up there.
That was sold out too.
rich vos
That was last night?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was packed.
At the same time, the ORs got a show.
At the same fucking time.
And that's packed.
It was madness.
brian redban
That's how that place it should have been for like the last 20 years.
You walked in last night, it was just magical.
joe rogan
They got rid of the shit manager.
They got rid of the shit manager and exploded.
It had just flourished.
rich vos
But how does a manager completely...
joe rogan
Because he was deaf.
He was death.
He was just AIDS. He was Ebola.
He was all the above.
He was a shit sandwich served to you on a fucking dog dick platter.
It was the worst.
Everybody avoided the guy.
Kreischer was there last night for the first time in ten years.
He goes, I'm never there because of that guy.
The guy who used to be the manager.
And now they've got Eric, and they've got Adam from the Tempe Improv, and it's fucking fantastic.
brian redban
Next Wednesday, I got Dane Cook on a show, which is crazy, because Dane grew up with the Laugh Factory and never went to that comedy store.
joe rogan
It's even more crazy that you got him on.
There's a lot of crazy things in this world.
rich vos
Last night, I went out to improv.
That place was packed.
joe rogan
Hopping.
Comedy right now, we were talking about this, that comedy is probably right now in the golden age.
I think this is the golden age of stand-up comedy.
You know, I mean, last night at the fucking store, that show they did in the main room between Magical and Kreischer and Bill Burr was hosting it.
It's a monster fucking show.
And I'm thinking about this.
I'm like, look at how many great comics there are today.
It's amazing.
It's such a great time to watch comedy.
It's an amazing time.
rich vos
It is.
There's so many...
Good, great comics.
joe rogan
And it's New York and L.A. are like the two hubs.
That's like the big epicenters.
rich vos
Yeah, I mean, you go in New York and there'll be a lineup and you're like, whoa, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, like you look at the stand.
I looked at the stand lineup.
It was DePaulo and Ari and a bunch of other fucking killers.
It's like you're getting this, like in these two places especially.
And other states can do it.
You know, like Boston, of course, used to have it.
Doesn't really have it anymore, but it could come back.
rich vos
Well, Boston used to be fucking, when they had all those, Rogerson and Tingle and fucking Gavin and Lenny and, you know, what's his name, Kevin Knox.
I mean, it was just fucking murder.
joe rogan
Steve Sweeney, monsters.
Don Gavin, monsters.
rich vos
I've never seen somebody kill like I've seen Gavin and Sweeney kill back then, or Rogerson.
joe rogan
People don't know.
They weren't there back then.
Those guys, man, they existed in a bubble, and they never left.
They never left town.
And because they never left town, they fucked themselves.
They never developed a draw on the road.
You gotta go to a place, and you gotta go to a place once, and then you gotta come.
Then people go, oh, Rich Voss is back, and then again.
And it takes fucking years to develop a crowd, you know?
rich vos
Also, too, those guys in Boston made so much fucking money, they didn't have to leave, too.
joe rogan
Also, they got paid in Coke.
rich vos
I was doing Coke back when I used to go up there.
joe rogan
That was part of the problem.
rich vos
There was a lot of Coke up there.
There was a lot of fucking Coke back there.
joe rogan
It's hard to get paid in Coke in Oregon.
Like, what am I doing here with this check?
rich vos
I did a fucking...
I did a show at a one-nighter in Scranton.
It was me and Sandler.
He was middling, and it was a one-nighter, and the owner took us in the back, and I guess...
He was getting 70 and maybe I was getting 90 or 68, whatever.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
So the owner pulls out this fucking, I mean, and says, you guys want any, you want Coke and share your money?
And Adam said, no.
I said, fuck yeah.
Right?
I probably got two and a half grand.
I got double the money in Coke, you know, at least.
joe rogan
Did you go sell the Coke or did you just do it?
rich vos
Did I sell it?
I had intentions to sell it.
unidentified
I had intentions to sell it.
rich vos
Yes, like all the other times I had big, big bags of coke.
joe rogan
Did you ever cut coke?
Did you ever take coke and cut it with like...
rich vos
Yeah, I had...
Oh man, this is...
I'll tell you this story.
This dude came up from Florida, a friend of ours, and he brought three ounces.
I'm talking fucking some of the best coke ever.
joe rogan
How big is an ounce of coke?
rich vos
It's 28 grams.
joe rogan
No, it's 28. No, it's 28. 16 ounces a pound.
How many ounces is 28?
28 grams is an ounce.
Yeah, so I said 28. What's 21 grams of that movie where they say the soul weighs 21 grams?
rich vos
Okay.
I might make a mistake on words.
You don't know grams.
joe rogan
I don't know.
rich vos
I don't know.
joe rogan
Metric system?
Millimeter?
You can tell me.
Centimeter?
What is it?
rich vos
Okay.
joe rogan
So, I mean, what does it look like?
rich vos
I guess maybe this much.
brian redban
It's like two of those, right?
joe rogan
An eight ball's that much Coke?
rich vos
No, I don't know.
It's like a bag.
What are you doing?
joe rogan
In between your fingers?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Oh, that much?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a lot.
That seems like a lot.
brian redban
Yeah, it's like an eight ball, right?
rich vos
What are you talking about?
An eight ball.
An ounce or an eight ball?
brian redban
Eight ball.
joe rogan
What's an eight ball?
rich vos
It's three and a half grams.
brian redban
Oh, wait.
rich vos
Three and a half grams.
joe rogan
What are you showing us, Jamie?
brian redban
Ounce of Coke.
joe rogan
Which one's an ounce?
I need a point of reference.
rich vos
No, that's not.
That's a quarter.
joe rogan
What is that thing on the scale?
What does it say on the scale?
rich vos
That's not an ounce.
joe rogan
The far right?
Far right?
What does that say?
unidentified
Two ounces.
joe rogan
Two ounces.
rich vos
Oh, okay, so anyhow.
joe rogan
Oh, there we go.
rich vos
So you asked if I could go, wow, that's a lot.
brian redban
That's a lot.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
rich vos
Oh, God.
joe rogan
So you had two ounces of Coke.
rich vos
No, my friend came up with three ounces to sell.
unidentified
Three ounces.
rich vos
Three ounces of, two or three ounces.
I mean, fucking as good as you can get.
joe rogan
Okay.
rich vos
And my mother was gone for a weekend.
Somehow we were in my building.
And people are selling coke like it's crazy, right?
And smoking it, you know, just fucking freebasing and cooking.
He fell asleep.
He fell asleep.
I can tell you a couple of stories.
I'll tell you two other ones that are funny.
He fell asleep and I took his fucking coke.
No, I pulled it out from under where he had, and I took, you know, three and a half, an eighth out, and I put an eighth of lactose in, which you can't even tell the difference.
This Coke was so strong.
And, you know, I took like three and a half grams of his.
But...
Here's two funny stories.
One time, my friend said, get me an eighth of Coke, three and a half grams, and stick it under my door, and you could have a half a gram, whatever.
So I left three grams under his door.
Well, I did it.
I went back, smoked my half a gram.
I went back to his place, and I took a hanger, and I pulled it back out.
I made about five trips there.
So now here's another story.
This fucking guy, John, I was on the road doing comedy.
He hasn't seen me.
He goes, look, I haven't seen you in a while.
I'm going to buy an eighth of Coke.
Okay, so that's three and a half grams.
It cost him $250, right?
He goes, we're going to do a gram, which leaves two and a half grams left.
That he'll sell for $100, $150.
But he actually cut it in five half grams.
That'll sell five half grams to get his $250 back.
And we have a gram that we'll smoke together.
He goes, I haven't seen you.
I'll smoke.
So we smoked a gram.
There's two and a half grams left that he's going to sell to get his money back.
He falls asleep.
Okay?
I don't know how I found out where he hid it.
So I would go where he hid it and take a half a gram out.
That I would drive to the store and buy pneumonia.
Ammonia?
I don't know.
What is it?
Ammonia or pneumonia?
I don't want to fuck this up.
Ammonia.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich vos
And it had to be clear.
And I would cook it.
There's a way to cook it.
So, I go there, I buy a bottle, come back, cook a half a gram, smoke it, pour out all the ammonia, right?
I'm not fucking in there.
brian redban
What do you do with the ammonia?
rich vos
You can make crack.
You can make free base with ammonia.
So, I fucking, I took the first half a gram, right?
His first half a gram, I went to the store, bought the ammonia, cooked the half a gram, poured the ammonia out, so I wouldn't steal any more, and fucking smoked it.
I go, oh, I can't stop.
Okay?
Fucking, I'm back up.
I made five trips to the convenience store buying a Mona, right?
And I'm so fucking whacked out and fucked up.
And the guy's going, why does this guy keep coming in every hour?
I go, look, I got a cleaning business, right?
Oh, my God.
So all of a sudden he wakes up and I hear, now no coke left, I'm drinking pure straight vodka to try, and all I hear is a big...
Him yelling upstairs, where's my, he came down, where's my cocaine?
I go, look, don't worry, I sold it for you while you were sleeping on credit to this guy.
I stole, I paid him back, but I just stole it.
I was a scumbag.
I was a drug addict.
brian redban
That's a lot of cocaine.
joe rogan
And you were doing the vodka to calm your body down because you're all whacked out?
rich vos
I was so, I had a, and there was nothing worse than when sun up, sun up, I'm walking home, All fucking coming down, knowing I have no money, nothing.
It was the worst fucking, it was the worst life on the planet.
It was such a bad life, you know, and then the running would, you know, into New York.
joe rogan
What does it feel like that you have to drink vodka?
Like, what is like, you're trying to calm your body down.
rich vos
You're just going to explode.
brian redban
It's like being really high on caffeine and then alcohol kind of takes you down a few notches.
It slows you down.
It counteracts it.
rich vos
Yeah, it's just, I don't know, you never snorted coke?
You never did coke in your life?
joe rogan
No.
rich vos
Get out of here, really?
joe rogan
No, never did it.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
rich vos
Have you done coke?
brian redban
Of course.
joe rogan
I saw way too many people when I was young just lose their shit.
rich vos
Did you ever smoke it?
brian redban
Uh-huh.
rich vos
So you know how fucking the rush, and the problem is, and I'm not glorifying it.
joe rogan
Smoking it gives you more of a rush?
rich vos
Are you kidding me?
brian redban
I did not like smoking it.
That's where you just like...
Heart pounding.
joe rogan
It's a rush that you'll never ever The first one you won't repeat it till maybe a day later So you keep trying to chase that fucking that first hit my friend Johnny This is back when I lived in New York It was the real Times Square like Times Square was a real thing like you go to Times Square There was peep booths.
It was dirty.
It was a dangerous spot.
He would go he would smoke crack and And he'd go to Times Square, and he'd go to those peep booths, and he would beat off in these peep booths, like, forever.
And he goes, you didn't even come.
You just kept playing with yourself.
Like, you just kept watching porn and watching girls, like, finger themselves in front of you.
And I go, what'd they look like?
He goes, oh, they were fucking disgusting.
It didn't matter.
It was just that it was deviant.
You were just doing...
It's like, for whatever reason, the smoking crack made him just want to do dirty shit.
Just do...
Just be a dirty, naughty person, you know?
rich vos
I smoked so much one night.
My dick shriveled up so much.
I couldn't...
And I looked at my pants and I was so fucked up.
I thought it went into my body.
I thought I lost it completely.
Like, it just sucked into my body.
And I'm going...
joe rogan
Your dick shrinks when you do coke?
rich vos
Yeah, when you do coke.
Yeah.
And I go...
Like, I was so fucked up.
I go, is it?
Oh, I'll deal with it later.
I'm going to get high.
unidentified
Right?
rich vos
I thought my fucking dick was...
We used to go to this fucking peep booth.
It was funny.
One night, God, I think we've told the story on ONA, but like in Philly, there was these fucking peep booths on the way home from Philly.
And you'd go in.
And you would pay a girl to watch you jerk off.
joe rogan
Right.
And she would, like, move around for you or something?
rich vos
No.
Couldn't touch you, but she'd watch.
Maybe go, ah, ooh, you know.
But you got to do it in front of somebody.
unidentified
So, it was fucking great.
joe rogan
What a deal.
rich vos
Why would you want that?
unidentified
Don't look at it.
Get him out of here.
Are you kidding me?
rich vos
I'm so excited.
So, one time, I mean, Norton and all of us used to go, but one time it was...
Me, Levi, and Florentine.
So Florentine's in the booth.
joe rogan
Bob Levy, Jim Florentine.
rich vos
Well, Florentine's in the booth first, in one of the booths.
And all of a sudden, I swear to God, you hear over the loudspeaker, a mop to booth four, right?
To fucking clean up his jizz.
And then...
unidentified
You find out your buddy's in booth four, and you hear that?
joe rogan
You're like, oh no.
rich vos
So then fucking Levy.
Now, there's curtains on the door.
You know, there's a shade.
But there's this much space.
So, Levy's in the room and we can see the shadow of a fucking hand flying back and forth, right?
We can see the shadow of his hand jerking himself off on the fucking floor under the chain.
And this hand was moving fucking fast.
I've never seen somebody jerk off that fucking fast.
joe rogan
How many times have you seen guys jerk off?
Do you have like a whole thing?
unidentified
In my database of men jerking off.
joe rogan
It's mostly slow.
Over a lifetime of observing.
rich vos
Well, you know, as a judge.
joe rogan
I'm a studier.
unidentified
And then...
rich vos
One time we went in there, me and Norton, and I got kicked out because I was trying to negotiate with a girl.
I go, look, what the fuck?
Take $15.
What the fuck?
You don't have to do nothing but sit and watch.
joe rogan
What were they supposed to take?
rich vos
Like $25.
And that was a lot of money back then after these one-nighters.
I go, take $15.
And I got kicked out of the people.
joe rogan
For negotiating.
rich vos
Well, sometimes I got him down, but I got kicked out and fucking Norton walks out the car and goes, how could you possibly get kicked out of a peep booth?
How could you get kicked out of a...
How fucked up is your life that you got kicked out of a peep booth?
joe rogan
And this is...
Norton was totally sober back then.
rich vos
We all were.
joe rogan
Well, Norton was...
He only did drugs until he was, like, 18 or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He got sober, like, really young.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy.
Think about it.
Like, you realize at 18, like, I can't do this.
rich vos
I can't do this anymore.
He was fucked up.
Did you ever hear the Central Park story with me and Norton?
joe rogan
No.
rich vos
Oh, this is a classic.
joe rogan
Here we go.
rich vos
Let me tell this story.
joe rogan
Let me crack my fingers.
Okay.
rich vos
We, uh...
We're coming out of somewhere.
Maybe a 12-step meeting or whatever.
And there's a hot, hot black chick.
Walks by and recognizes me.
And I wasn't even maybe from a club.
Maybe I did one TV show or two in my life.
So I said to her, do you want to go out for bagels?
We're going for bagels.
She said, okay.
So we went and had bagels.
Then we said, hey, we're going to go uptown to the peep booths, you know, on like 54th or whatever.
joe rogan
Classy broad.
rich vos
I'm not trying to judge.
joe rogan
Is she a prostitute?
rich vos
I'm not fucking judging people.
We're not here to judge.
joe rogan
But I mean, did you know she was a prostitute?
rich vos
No, she wasn't a prostitute.
joe rogan
But you invited her to a peep booth.
unidentified
Yeah, she already likes us.
rich vos
She already got a fucking free bagel.
joe rogan
Okay, so you're not thinking this is going to be your girlfriend someday.
rich vos
No, no.
But you got it so...
It's hilarious.
So we go, hey, we're going...
We were planning on it.
We're going up there anyhow.
So we go up to, you know, the quarter booth, the people.
And she comes into a booth with me.
But we get kicked out.
The fucking Indian fucking...
Get out.
You know, no couple.
joe rogan
No couples?
rich vos
No couples in the booth.
In those quarter booths.
You can't bring somebody in.
So now, this is no fucking lie.
I'm not lying.
We're standing...
Right across from the Ed Sullivan Theater, right?
And there's like a newspaper kiosk, and we're leaning on a car, and I'm making out with her, and I'm fingering her on Broadway.
So she fucking...
And Norton's just grabbing her ass like a little fucking...
Like it's...
A toy.
He's playing with her, right?
So, I think, and she comes, right?
She has an orgasm, standing on Broadway from everything.
So then we get in the car.
joe rogan
Allegedly has an orgasm.
rich vos
Who does?
unidentified
Allegedly.
rich vos
No, she had an orgasm.
joe rogan
You could tell.
unidentified
You could feel it.
rich vos
Well, she didn't piss on my finger.
But you could tell when a girl has it.
She wasn't faking it.
She wasn't in a rush.
joe rogan
Okay.
rich vos
So it was a, you know, she had an orgasm.
I'm not saying it was the best one.
joe rogan
She might have just been tired of your fingering her.
rich vos
No, my stubby little fingers know what they're doing.
Okay, but you're being Nicky negative.
This is a good...
No, no.
joe rogan
I'm just trying to get a real clear picture of what actually happened.
rich vos
Okay.
Could it be any clearer than what I said?
joe rogan
Norton's playing with her ass, your finger in her...
brian redban
That must have looked like a sight also, by the way.
Just like you with your back and her in the middle and Norton grabbing the butt.
rich vos
No, you can confirm all of it.
joe rogan
Okay.
rich vos
So then we go, let's take a ride up to Central Park.
We're walking through Central Park.
And then she's blowing me, right?
She's blowing me.
And then I look down and I see Norton eating her ass, right?
But it's like a little kid in candy, right?
And I'm trying not to crack up because I'm getting fucking blown.
You don't want to fucking laugh as you're getting blown.
But this has got to feel good for her.
She's getting her ass eaten.
And now I'm getting blown.
So, I shoot a load, we get back in the car, and we're driving, and I go to Norton, you have a good time.
He goes, well, I was a little uncomfortable.
I got my pants dirty.
I go, you'll fucking eat out a strange girl's ass, but you're worried about getting your fucking pants dirty?
What, are you gonna get home?
Your mom's gonna say, look at these grass stains.
Were you eating out ass again, Norton?
Like, he was upset that he got grass stains on his pants as he was eating his fucking strange girl's hair.
That's so hilarious.
joe rogan
That so sounds like Norton, too.
That's so ridiculous.
rich vos
I mean, I was obviously single and young.
I was dating this girl that was so fucking hot.
And we were in the car and she was blowing me and Norton was walking by.
I go, hey, you want to watch?
And he goes, yeah.
He comes in and he's in the back of the car.
He's just fucking, you know, we picked up this fucking...
joe rogan
He starts jerking off while she's blowing you?
rich vos
Yeah, but I come so quick.
He goes, fuck, man, hold off.
One time we pick up this hottie.
I pick up, it's always me picking up.
I picked up this girl up front of the commies.
So we're going back to Norton's house.
And she's blowing me and whatever.
And Norton's jerking off.
And next thing you know, I see a load fly and hit Norton in the fucking head.
She's blowing me.
He jerks off.
He hit himself?
Yeah, he hit himself in the head.
I was so fucking impressed that it flew that high and hit himself.
I was like, it was fucking very impressive.
He's a creep.
joe rogan
What the fuck about you?
rich vos
I'm just getting blown.
I didn't do anything deviant.
I didn't do anything wrong.
joe rogan
He's so honest about his perversions.
It's hilarious.
Has there ever been a guy on the radio that's as honest about his perversions as Norton?
I don't even think there's a close second.
unidentified
No.
No one.
joe rogan
Like a regular radio guy that's as honest about being a pervert and trannies and all the crazy shit that Norton does?
I mean, that's very unique.
rich vos
That's, you know...
Yeah, but I think Opie and Anthony, when they were together, brought...
Really, we're good to get the truth out of all of us, from Colin to fucking Bobby.
I mean, we've spilled our guts in there.
unidentified
Patrice.
rich vos
Patrice.
I mean, really have told stories...
You know, I mean, that are like really fucking deep about our parents and upbringing.
You know, and that's what, you know, people think they know.
That's why I hate fucking some of these guys on Twitter.
They think they're, just because we, you're not my friend.
Don't ever, you know, so you can't say the things Norton and Bobby and, you know, Patrice and whatever Colin could say to me.
That's why they think, but, because they got so, they know so much about our lives.
But Norton brings it to a whole nother level, like you say.
Like, you know what I mean?
You know...
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You get uncomfortable even thinking about it.
rich vos
You know, look at every...
joe rogan
No, there's nobody like Norton.
Norton is a completely unique individual.
And always has been.
You know, always has been.
He's found his voice more as a comic.
You know, now than ever before.
But he's always been this really unique guy.
rich vos
Well, I can tell you what he does.
I don't watch a lot of comics stand-up.
I just don't watch a lot.
Once on a blue moon, I'll see a little of this, a little of that.
But on radio, there is no one quicker at comebacks than Norton.
joe rogan
No.
rich vos
No, hands down.
joe rogan
He's my favorite all-time radio personality.
rich vos
He's in...
I know him as a...
I'm just saying he's quick as fuck on radio.
joe rogan
He's in a class by himself.
rich vos
He really is.
But that also, too, when you're going in there, you know, if Colin's in and Bobby and me and when Patrice was there, you're going walking into the lion's den.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich vos
You've got to be, you know, boom.
There's no fucking...
I mean, we will...
joe rogan
You've got to be ready to go.
rich vos
Just tear...
Fucking Patrice laid into...
He laid into me...
First he attacked my...
I had a Rolex.
Somehow he attacked me having a Rolex.
Okay?
Because it wasn't a Breitling.
It was a Rolex.
Where I bought it from...
joe rogan
A Breitling is better than a Rolex?
rich vos
To him it was.
He's...
You know, black guys don't...
You know, they like those big fucking, you know.
Then he attacked me.
He attacked me.
You know what I'm saying.
From asses to watches.
So, then he attacked me.
I had...
I was driving at the time a Porsche Boxster.
Right?
And he had, I think, an Escalade or whatever.
And he was calling me selfish.
I'm driving this little car.
And he's killing me.
And I'm driving home from ONA and I can't let...
I'm going, wait, you fucking fat fuck.
You're driving an Escalade that's fucking...
You know, using all this gas, all this, you know...
You're the selfish one because you could not stop eating fucking fruitcakes.
And now, so...
And then he's saying how crappy my car is.
Two days later, I'm online looking at the price of a Boxster new against his car new and all the stats, and I fucking email it to him.
He calls me cracking up.
He goes, you're still thinking about this?
unidentified
You're still thinking about this?
rich vos
I walked out of the studio and forgot.
It was radio.
He fucking ripped me down so hard.
Patrice was an overpowering guy.
Even if you were right, he just so...
Verbally overpowering.
joe rogan
You know how big he would be today?
As a comic?
rich vos
He hands down would be...
joe rogan
He'd be right up there with anybody.
Any of the biggest comics in the world today.
rich vos
As talent-wise.
He did sabotage a lot because...
No, I'm wrong.
He knew what he wanted.
He turned down a lot.
He didn't sabotage it.
joe rogan
What kind of stuff did he turn down?
rich vos
Spike Lee liked him, but I guess the money wasn't right, what he was offered.
joe rogan
For what?
For a movie?
rich vos
Whatever.
To do whatever with Spike.
When Puffy had that show on...
HBO, whatever.
It wasn't Dev Jam.
It was another black comic thing.
They asked him to host it.
He didn't like the deal.
He turned it down.
When he had VH1, I think he wanted his own billboard in Times Square.
You know, whatever.
Well, he deserved it, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich vos
He deserved it.
joe rogan
And they said no, so...
rich vos
Eh, fuck you.
But whatever.
He was offered...
But he knew what he wanted.
He was offered many roasts before he did that Charlie Sheen one.
And he was right.
He's going, why am I going to do a fucking roast...
With these comics that aren't in my league and are not my friends.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he mocked them while he was up there.
He was the best at that roast.
rich vos
Yeah, he's like, who are they going to...
joe rogan
Was it Charlie Sheen?
Was that the roast he was on?
rich vos
Yeah, and Jess O'Neck and Schumer were on it.
joe rogan
Damn, he murdered it on that roast.
rich vos
Let me tell you, he went last, and a lot of that was just...
Off the top of his head.
Because I went over a lot of his stuff before we talked, you know what I mean?
So I go, and stuff was, and then he started getting mad because they're talking about his diabetes, and he's like, who the fuck are they to talk about me like this?
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
You know, and that was his whole mindset before even going into the roast.
So they multiplied it by saying shit about him.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
rich vos
Because he goes, they're not my fucking friends, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
He clearly stole that roast.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich vos
Clearly hands down.
From there, there would have been no stopping Patrice.
None.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So sad.
You know, it's so fucked up that some of the funniest guys have all these self-sabotaging traits like bad diet and drugs.
rich vos
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not taking care of themselves.
So fucking sad.
rich vos
Yeah.
But he wasn't a drug addict.
He didn't drink.
He didn't do drugs.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he didn't take care of his body.
Didn't take care of his diet.
I mean, he had fucking diabetes.
He didn't take care of it.
He died from something that other people haven't died from.
I mean, if he just lost weight and ate healthy and started eating vegetables, he could have lowered his blood sugar.
He could have dealt with it in a healthy way.
But what makes a guy that fucking funny is kind of the same shit that I don't give a fuck attitude.
You can't have that I don't give a fuck attitude and be, you know, drinking green tea instead of eating cheeseburgers, you know?
Yeah.
It comes with the thing.
rich vos
It's a lifestyle.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich vos
See, there's comics that do comedy from their head.
And there's funny guys.
He came from...
To me, the best comics on the planet are comics that talk from their heart.
That talk from within them.
You know what I mean?
They're not...
They didn't figure it out.
They lived it or they experienced it.
You know what I'm saying?
You feel...
So, Patrice wasn't...
He was brilliant.
He had to think of it.
But it really came from here.
This was how he was in real life.
You know, he didn't go on stage and, hey, let me do my fucking act.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
You know, in a good comic, you know, you take, like, Louie and Stanhope and Voss.
You take guys like that.
Rich Voss?
Yeah, but he's at Ventura Comedy Club Friday to Sunday.
joe rogan
This weekend?
rich vos
Friday through Sunday.
joe rogan
California, Ventura, California.
rich vos
Yeah, Ventura Harbor.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
rich vos
But you see what I'm saying?
You take these guys, like Stanhope, I think is fucking a genius.
joe rogan
Yeah, me too.
rich vos
I think he's just at a whole nother level.
I read some of his blogs and just the guy...
unidentified
He's awesome.
rich vos
His fucking mind...
He's at a whole nother level.
joe rogan
Well, he's really living it.
You know what I mean?
Stan Hope lives in Bisbee, Arizona, in the middle of fucking nowhere, in a multicolored, bright orange house, or bright yellow house.
He has Super Bowl parties.
He invites the world.
Literally gives out his address on my podcast and says, come to my Super Bowl party.
So he has hundreds of people, he has no idea who they are, fly in to Tucson, then drive to Bisbee and show up at his fucking house and he lets them inside where he sleeps and eats and...
They're all wandering around his house, drinking and smoking, and he doesn't give a fuck.
Like, there's a lot of guys pretending to not give a fuck.
Stanhope is that guy, you know, wearing those ironic suits.
And he's like, I kind of have to stop wearing these because other people think I'm serious.
And now wearing ironic suits has become a thing.
It's almost like a hipster thing.
rich vos
I watched him on a show I think he was doing with Norton and Artie Lang in Atlantic City.
We went down to hang out.
It could have been a bright yellow fucking blazer.
You would think he was going to introduce acrobats.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a burlesque MC. We did the End of the World show, the December 21st, 2012 show at the Woltern.
It was Honey Honey, Joe Diaz, Stan Hope, and me.
And Stan Hope wore this ridiculous suit.
It was just ridiculous.
It was half of what made it awesome was him and his fucking stupid suit.
rich vos
Look at his house.
joe rogan
You got a photo of his house?
Look at his house.
I mean, if anybody wants to visit Doug Stanhope, you can't miss it.
Just drive through Bisbee.
You'll find it in five seconds.
You go, oh, there he is.
rich vos
But also what I love about him, he calls his own shots in this business.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
rich vos
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
He was one of the first guys to do these promotions where he was like, you know, I'm tired of working at these comedy clubs and they're giving me shit money and I know how much I'm bringing in.
That's his house.
rich vos
That's fucking...
joe rogan
That's his house.
rich vos
That's what you would see on the internet that somebody made from an ex-cargo...
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's got pebbles instead of a lawn.
This is just a bunch of people probably...
That's probably a party that he had on purpose.
rich vos
That's a fucking great house, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's cool.
unidentified
Probably a Super Bowl party.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, he has these Super Bowl parties, and I don't know if all of them are photos.
There's other photos where there's even more pictures.
rich vos
That looks like a next storage bin, like one of those things you would see.
joe rogan
Is that his podcast down there?
What is that?
Scroll down a little.
Because he has a podcast now.
Is that the studio?
Click on it.
Let me see that.
unidentified
Which one?
joe rogan
The one with the podcast.
unidentified
Oh, this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, look at that.
brian redban
Bingo!
joe rogan
Who's that with him?
rich vos
That's his girl.
joe rogan
No, the other guy.
Quinn from Impractical Jokers.
So that's his...
He's got his own podcast studio now.
Good for him.
And that's all in his wacky house.
He's a maniac.
rich vos
I fucking love the fact that he's just like...
He goes into rock, does what he wants to do.
I love fucking comedy.
joe rogan
Well, he'll do comedy clubs now because he's undeniable.
Now they have to give him the door or whatever the fuck the deal is.
rich vos
But he doesn't usually do weekends.
He'll do a Tuesday, Wednesday in a comedy club.
joe rogan
But if he wants to do a weekend, he'll do a weekend.
But it's one of those things where they were trying to tell him what he was worth.
And he was like, why am I giving you guys anything?
And I can just sell out a rock club.
The problem with those rock clubs is we saw him once in LA. We went to see him in LA. You have to stand up.
It was a concrete floor.
You're standing.
And after like a half hour, I was like, this is the last...
I'm never going to do a standing...
Because I had done a few standing shows.
I'm like, I'm never doing one of these ever again.
rich vos
Well, we saw him in Philly.
We went down to watch him in Philly do one of those things.
And it's kind of uncomfortable standing.
joe rogan
Standing is bullshit.
Standing is bullshit.
rich vos
I mean, his stuff...
joe rogan
You got to talk into the microphone.
That's why you should wear headphones.
rich vos
Okay, I missed the microphone for one second.
You know, look it, everybody's not perfect.
But I do know how many grams in a fucking ounce.
unidentified
Is it 20 or something?
joe rogan
What is it, 32?
rich vos
You know, the fucking smartest guy.
joe rogan
Ventura?
Where is it?
rich vos
Ventura.
But his act, what I've seen of him...
He doesn't have to...
Like, some comics really have to connect with...
He's so smart and brilliant.
He could do his act laying down on a couch with his head.
Do you get what I'm saying?
You think so?
I think he's so smart...
As a person that you can listen to him and you don't have to see him to get what he's saying.
joe rogan
You mean like a comedy album?
rich vos
Yeah.
No, no, but in a...
I'm saying...
You're saying a comedy club where people are sitting down so focused.
You know, when I do stand-up, a lot of times I'll sit and I'll need their attention.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
On the, you know, focused.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
But someone...
I mean, I can't...
He is just so smart that you could close your eyes and listen to what he's saying, going, this is some brilliant shit.
That doesn't make sense.
joe rogan
I mean, I think he's brilliant.
I don't know what you're saying, though.
You're not really doing a good job of talking.
rich vos
Well, because you're saying the standing up, he would do better sitting down?
joe rogan
No, that's not what I said at all.
I meant when you're in the audience...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's uncomfortable to stand for a long period of time.
And I'll never do a standing show where the audience has to stand.
Because they're not comfortable.
They don't enjoy it the way you enjoy it if you can sit down and relax.
rich vos
But you're saying if it's not comfortable, then you're not taking in everything that's being said because you're not comfortable.
joe rogan
It's not as good as an experience because discomfort is a part of the experience.
If you're sitting down watching a show, you can just concentrate on the show.
But 45, an hour and a half into a show, and you're standing for that whole time, your feet start to hurt.
rich vos
Don't do that for a rock band.
brian redban
I bet you're dancing around and stuff.
Like, my legs were locking to the point where I felt like I was almost about to fall over.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
rich vos
Because we could not move.
Okay, my point was, the fucking guy is brilliant.
joe rogan
Oh, he's definitely brilliant.
I don't even think he does standing shows anymore.
I don't think he does.
He might, but most people have abandoned him.
All it takes is being an audience member once.
And you go, oh, well, fuck this.
You know, that's why I stopped doing the House of Blues in Vegas.
They used to have that fucking standing part on the side.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
It's the worst.
They have the seated part, which is awesome.
And then they have the top seating, awesome.
Then they'd have the bar area was filled with people just standing and it was fucking terrible.
It was terrible.
It's like, they would talk, like, you would literally, you would have, like, I would, like, be trying to do stand-up at a nightclub.
Like, when there's a full-on, like, bar scene happening.
And, you know, attention to everyone, just like you're, you know, like, interrupting conversations.
Instead of, if you go to a comedy club, everybody's seated, the show starts, and they're there to see a comedy club.
There's too much room for variables.
rich vos
Some comedy clubs, though, like, I've done some rooms, like, in...
Casinos, whatever, where the seats are too comfortable, and now they're too fucking relaxed.
And, you know, those cushion seats, and they're laying back, and they're not real.
joe rogan
Yeah, couches are not good for comedy.
rich vos
You can't be too comfortable.
joe rogan
The Ha Ha has couches in the front, and it's like, this is a little too goddamn casual.
rich vos
What the fuck is that in LA here?
joe rogan
It's a North Hollywood, smaller club.
rich vos
So, you can't be too comfortable.
You can't be too uncomfortable.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, I went to Sturgill Simpson, did Conan the other day, and I went to watch, and it's fucking cold as shit in there.
They've got that thing going on like Letterman likes to do.
Like, we used to crank down the temperature, like, way down, like in the 60s.
brian redban
Isn't that for the lighting?
joe rogan
A little bit, but I think the idea behind Letterman was that when you are cold, you have a little bit more energy.
You're more likely to laugh than if it's really hot.
If it's really hot in the room, people don't laugh as much.
Kind of makes sense.
rich vos
Oh, fuck.
I'm going to pass out dry ice this weekend.
joe rogan
At the Ventura Harbor Comedy Club in Ventura, California?
rich vos
Friday through Sunday.
joe rogan
Are you there on Sunday, too?
rich vos
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
You say that like you're not happy about that.
rich vos
Well, I am happy, but here's the problem.
Sunday day, I was invited to play golf at Bel Air Country Club.
So I'm going to drive from Ventura to Bel Air.
joe rogan
That's like two hours.
rich vos
No, how come some people tell me 40 minutes, some team 45?
joe rogan
That's not 40 minutes.
They're lying to you.
rich vos
An hour?
It can't be two hours from Ventura to...
What?
joe rogan
You sure can.
rich vos
I bet if you look it up on MapQuest.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
With traffic?
rich vos
There's no traffic on Sunday morning at 7 a.m.?
joe rogan
You're adorable.
You're adorable.
You don't know Los Angeles, do you?
rich vos
7 a.m.
there's traffic on Sunday morning.
joe rogan
Easily.
If you go to Orange County, you might be stopped dead.
You might be stopped dead on the highway at 7 a.m.
On the 5?
Take the 5 Sunday morning.
Might be stopped dead.
rich vos
Okay.
joe rogan
I'm not lying.
This is an overpopulated place.
rich vos
No, I get that.
joe rogan
Go outside.
Look how beautiful it is.
It's like that in February.
rich vos
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's perfect.
Perfect weather.
rich vos
But look at the distance.
joe rogan
A lot of people find out about it.
They move here.
They have cars.
They drive.
They go, you know what?
I'm just going to get up 7 o'clock in the morning.
Who's going to be up on Sunday morning?
Oh, there's only 90 fucking million people live here.
rich vos
Jesus Christ, you really know how to depress a person.
unidentified
I was looking forward to my day at Bel Air.
joe rogan
Well, you can do it.
You just gotta leave early.
rich vos
Well, I gotta be there by like 9, so I'll leave at 7. Yeah, you'll be fine.
brian redban
Yeah, right now it's an hour and 40 minutes.
joe rogan
An hour and a half now?
rich vos
An hour and 40 minutes?
brian redban
From Bel Air to Ventura, California.
joe rogan
It's an hour and two minutes without traffic.
Which is adorable.
Why don't they just say, if you fly.
rich vos
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
So how is that Ventura Harbor?
Have you done that before?
rich vos
I've never done it.
joe rogan
I heard good things.
Yeah, I heard it's a good coming.
But I've never been there.
Have you ever been there?
brian redban
No, but some guy contacted me from there, I think.
rich vos
But I mean, how come, like, guy, like, especially you, where you're doing, like, weekend rooms, going to San Diego, this and that place.
brian redban
No, I do the Stanhope Tuesday, Wednesday stuff.
rich vos
You do what?
joe rogan
Well, you do weekends, too.
brian redban
Yeah, but some weekends, but yeah, mostly Tuesday and Wednesdays.
rich vos
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
I love Santa Barbara.
Oh, I love it up there.
Just a little bit further north.
That's one of my favorite spots.
rich vos
That's where I got my way pregnant.
joe rogan
When I become like Dennis Miller, become some old conservative man with a radio show.
rich vos
Is that where he's out of Santa Barbara?
joe rogan
Yeah, he lives up there with all the white people.
It's all white people.
They just rally on against Mexicans.
We get angry about black people up there.
rich vos
Wow, you could do that anywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you can't do it exclusively.
You're preaching to the choir, everyone around you.
This is like zero diversity.
brian redban
Do you know San Jose is the number one less amount of black people in the United States of America?
joe rogan
San Jose?
brian redban
And number two is San Francisco.
joe rogan
San Francisco is the least amount of black people in the United States?
That doesn't make sense.
Well, what is Oakland, number one?
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's all black people.
They all moved to Oakland and they can't afford San Francisco.
brian redban
Actually, I heard Oakland is now, like, it's totally different now.
joe rogan
See, I've always thought San Francisco was really diversified.
brian redban
Yeah, with Asians.
rich vos
Well, their mindset is diverse.
joe rogan
Well, San Francisco, the real estate is so fucking ridiculous now.
The tech boom has fucked that place up so bad.
The prices are just...
They don't make any sense.
Like, you'd be an asshole to buy a house in San Francisco now.
Unless you've got, like...
Elon Musk money, and you don't give a fuck.
I saw a house for $3 million, my jaw dropped.
I was like, this doesn't make any sense.
This is a $400,000 house.
How is this $3 million?
rich vos
It's a little shithole, right?
joe rogan
It was a house.
It was a nice house, but it wasn't $3 million.
I mean, it didn't make any sense.
rich vos
Well, I look at these people in New York that fucking get these apartments.
joe rogan
Oh, they're crazy.
rich vos
That are as big as this table.
joe rogan
They're fucking crazy.
rich vos
I go, all you have to do is move 20 minutes into Jersey, and you could buy a fucking house.
joe rogan
I looked at house apartments in New York for a bit.
There was a time where I was thinking about moving to New York, just to mix things up.
But it just didn't make any sense.
And you know the one thing that gets me about New York?
The sets that you do around town, they're real short.
Everyone's doing like 15 minutes, 10 minutes.
I'm like, that is not enough.
That's not enough time to really get busy.
rich vos
Yeah, but you'd be able to do more time in places.
You know, when Rock walks in, he's doing what he wants to do.
When certain comics walk in, you know...
Louie or whatever.
I'm sure you could do a half an hour.
They wouldn't have a problem.
joe rogan
I don't like to walk in and do that.
I want to schedule that.
You know what I mean?
It's one of the reasons why I like doing the belly room.
We do those weekends in the belly room.
I could do 45 minutes in town on a Friday, Saturday night.
You know, like that.
If you're going to...
Really hone your act.
Yeah, I'm not working on one bit You know, I'm working on six seven bits and trying to put together You know like a real hour for my next special and if I'm doing a 10 or a 15-minute set There's not enough time for that, and I don't want to do that whole trek around doing seven, eight sets a night.
I just think that's foolishness.
rich vos
No, I wouldn't do that ever.
I'd do maybe two.
unidentified
I never did it.
rich vos
One or two.
I mean, I did it years ago in New York, but I work out my material on the road, you know, because that's where I work it out, in the comedy clubs.
Because I'm going to have enough good stuff around it.
If a bit doesn't work, then the next one's gonna.
joe rogan
Well, when I lived in New York, when we were doing stand-up together, I hardly ever did the city.
Because I could do Connecticut, or I could do Long Island, or I could do Jersey, and I'd make $150.
I could make real money and get paid, versus if I was in town.
You get $25 here, $10 there.
It's like, what?
I'm not doing 10 sets a night to make $100.
It just seems so stupid.
rich vos
Comics that can't get road work are in the city bouncing from club to club.
You know, there's guys that do seven sets a night.
You know what?
Getting a job on fucking Wall Street because there's no way this old cocksucker is running around town.
But luckily, I can work on the road.
And like you said, you can work in D.C., Baltimore.
These are all driving distance where you could drive home Saturday night.
I drive home.
Philadelphia, even Boston is three and a half, four hours, whatever.
So you could do, you could make a great living.
There's so much around there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich vos
You know, that's when I asked him, like, if, you know, you talked about San Diego.
Well, how are you not working at this other place if it's only an hour and a half away on a weekend?
There was one place I used to work, Rooster Teeth Feathers or something.
joe rogan
Where's that?
I heard about that.
rich vos
Where the fuck is it?
Do you know?
joe rogan
Is that still around?
rich vos
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
But Silicon Valley, where's Silicon Valley?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the San Francisco area, yeah.
rich vos
Is it up?
Yeah, it's up in the area.
It's way up there.
Oh, that's not driving distance from here, then.
joe rogan
You could drive, but it's going to be six plus hours.
rich vos
Okay, that's too far.
joe rogan
Depending on traffic.
rich vos
There's...
Unlike LA, New York, or Jersey where I live, you could work fucking almost all year round and make a good living in weekend comedy, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Are you doing weekday gigs anywhere?
rich vos
No, we do...
Once in a while I'll get a private or a fundraiser.
You know, like Tuesday night we'll do our radio show on Sirius, and then we'll do a spot in the city here and there.
joe rogan
Because you do on Tuesday, Sirius is in the city?
rich vos
Yeah, in the city.
In Opie, we do Opie Studio.
Me and Bonnie do our radio show from 7 to 9. My wife hates me, the radio show.
And so then I'll do a spot after it, maybe at the cellar to hang out or whatever.
And then Wednesday I probably will stay home because I'm going to leave Thursday, Friday, whatever.
So I try to be home Wednesday.
Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, as much as I can.
You know what I mean?
To be with my kid.
And then I'll leave Sunday.
You know, once in a blue moon on Wednesday night, we'll go over to the Stress Factory on open mic night.
And do some time, because it's 20 minutes from our house.
So we go, well, we want to work out something.
Why go into the city?
We just go to the open mic night at the Stress Factory.
joe rogan
How's the crowd at the Stress Factory on those nights?
rich vos
Some nights it's crowded, you know, some nights it's tons of comics.
But, you know, it's okay.
It's 20, we go there, we take our kid on a Wednesday.
unidentified
Not a lot of clubs in New Jersey, huh?
joe rogan
Other than a stress factory, that's all you really hear about.
rich vos
Bananas.
joe rogan
Bananas.
rich vos
Bananas in whatever.
What is that?
joe rogan
Point Pleasant or something?
unidentified
No.
rich vos
Bananas is in Saddlebrook or something.
joe rogan
There's a Bananas in Poughkeepsie, right?
unidentified
Isn't there?
rich vos
Yeah.
But that's closed.
joe rogan
That's closed.
It's closed?
rich vos
Yeah.
brian redban
Where was that sushi place we did?
Was that Jersey?
Remember, it was like an old Chinese restaurant for some reason, and it had a weird stage, like the stage looked like a town or something.
And it was like a restaurant, but they did comedy.
rich vos
Well, Uncle Vinny's does comedy.
joe rogan
When was this?
brian redban
Five years ago.
It was me, you, Joey Diaz, I think.
rich vos
What was it?
They had sushi there?
brian redban
It was like a sushi restaurant.
joe rogan
And it was in New Jersey?
brian redban
It was either New Jersey or upstate New York.
unidentified
Were you dreaming?
brian redban
No, no.
You don't remember?
It was a restaurant and the stage looked like a fake town.
Like it was a fake house.
And you came out and it looked like you were on the front porch of a house or something.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no.
You're wrong.
That was Western Massachusetts.
That's a Chinese restaurant.
That's the Kahuki Lau.
That's for the Comedy Connection.
Yeah, yeah, you do you would do Friday night in the city and then you do your Friday night in Boston you do Saturday night out the hooky lao or Sunday at the hooky lao those death I do a new well Jersey has there's a place uncle Vinny's chickopee that's what it was uncle Vinny's but there's no liquor license it's bring your own beer whatever you know they can't afford a liquor license but he gets big acts there but you can bring your own booze I guess they show up with a bottle of wine Yeah, whatever.
rich vos
Wine.
brian redban
Jack.
rich vos
And he does always...
I mean, the Stretch Factory obviously is the big club in Jersey.
Bananas brings in big acts.
You know, they'll open the door.
I'm doing one in Boston.
It's a great new club in Boston.
joe rogan
Laugh Boston.
rich vos
Laugh Boston.
joe rogan
I've done that.
rich vos
I fucking love it.
unidentified
It's great.
rich vos
The fucking hotel is beautiful.
You stay right there.
joe rogan
Right there.
Just come on down.
rich vos
Come down.
joe rogan
Boom.
rich vos
The people that own it are great.
joe rogan
They're great.
I did it recently.
rich vos
It's a great gig, yeah.
What a fucking great gig.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I usually do the Wilbur, but somebody already had it.
It was a last-minute thing, because there was a UFC in Boston, and I wasn't supposed to work it, because it was a Fox Sports 1 gig.
I usually do either pay-per-views or the big Fox gigs, but for whatever reason I wanted to do it, or they wanted me to do it, I forget how it worked.
rich vos
Boston used to have so many good clubs.
joe rogan
It's so sad to go back.
But there's a little bit of a scene there now.
A little bit of young comics coming up that are trying real hard, that are trying to put together a scene.
But it takes decades to put together a scene like they used to have there.
It's amazing that it deteriorated the way it did.
And a big part of the reason why it deteriorated is guys stop writing.
They stop writing.
Those guys are doing the same act for fucking decades.
rich vos
Well, no, I bet...
It was the clubs that didn't last.
I mean, Knicks...
joe rogan
Why do you think they didn't last?
I mean, there's a part of that was that guys stopped writing.
rich vos
I guess, yeah, because they were using the same guys.
joe rogan
Same guys, same act.
unidentified
Same act.
joe rogan
It's still fun to watch, but if you knew, if you would go back to see Steve Sweeney every year, you knew he was going to have a new act that's like the one that you saw before.
Like I say, if you went out And you could guarantee that you're going to see a half hour new material from Sweeney and then a half hour of that old killer stuff that he had.
You would love it.
rich vos
That's a good point.
Yeah, I do blame a lot.
You're right.
joe rogan
It was the culture back then because they didn't know.
I mean, with the internet, you can't do that.
You can't do that anymore.
So now everybody's doing the George Carlin method.
We try to do a whole new special between a year and a year and a half, two years, depending on...
You know, how you feel.
Like, some guys think that a year's too soon, the material's not good enough, and some guys think, you know, that you waste Waste time developing.
You should just move on to the next act.
rich vos
In five minutes, Kathy Griffin will have another hour.
joe rogan
Five minutes?
rich vos
She puts out an hour every two hours.
An hour every two hours?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
She puts out a lot of hours.
rich vos
She puts out a lot of hours.
But she's not doing punchline jokes.
A lot of them are stories.
joe rogan
Stories about her hanging out with Cher.
rich vos
Yeah, and stuff like that.
joe rogan
Cher stopped returning her call.
She'd lose half her act.
unidentified
That's funny.
GMC's, tramps, and thieves.
That's what the people of the town they call us.
rich vos
I try to do a new CD every two years.
joe rogan
Every two years I try to do a new CD. Yeah, two years is a good time because that means you work on it for a solid year and a half and then the last six months you're just fucking sharpening that sword.
And then by the time it comes around, you're filming, you're sick of it.
You don't want to do it anymore.
rich vos
But see, I add and take out, add and take out.
I think Chris, I've seen Chris, I think maybe even Louis does it.
I'll see Chris go on a stage with a whole...
No, you know, he's trying to do a whole new half or 45 at once, get it all together.
You know, I throw in a new bit, drop a bit, throw in a new bit, drop a bit.
But some of these fucking guys like Louie and Chris, they're fucking, they could just write an hour like that.
joe rogan
You wrote for Chris.
You helped him write when he was doing, like, some of his specials, right?
rich vos
No, I wrote, I was...
When he did it on the Oscars, I wrote his last movie, Top 5, I wrote on that.
You know, I helped you punch up.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
You know, and Chris is smart.
He had a couple of...
joe rogan
DiPaolo, right?
rich vos
DiPaolo wasn't on the movie.
He was on the Oscars.
joe rogan
The Oscars.
And he used to use Rich Jenny a lot as well.
rich vos
When we did the Oscars, fucking Jenny.
You know, the problem with a lot of big comics, and I'm not...
You're going...
Is that...
They could be...
A lot of people aren't honest with them.
Everybody, when you get to a certain level, has a lot of, yeah, that's great, that's great, that's yes.
And it's really not to their standard.
And when we wrote on the Oscars...
Jenny had no problem saying to Chris, that stinks.
Don't do it.
It's not right.
And obviously, Jenny knew what he was talking about because he was one of the best fucking comics in history.
joe rogan
I talk about him all the time on this show, that he was like the one guy, when people talk about some of the all-time greats, he's the one guy that they leave out.
I'm like, you didn't see him in the 80s.
You missed it.
If you saw Jenny in the 80s, early 90s, he's one of the best of all time.
rich vos
How could you not think this guy...
joe rogan
You had to see him, though, the way we saw him.
rich vos
He would take a premise and bring it to a whole other level.
joe rogan
He was the guy, when people say, your jokes, you take a premise and you squeeze all the juice out of it.
Right when you think you can't get any more out of it, you take it to another place.
I learned that watching Jenny.
I really did.
Because I remember thinking that...
I was just scratching the surface of these subjects.
Whereas he understood how to explore all of them.
rich vos
I'll tell you another one I watched.
When I watched Dom Irera, I'm going, this is one of the funniest guys alive.
joe rogan
Yeah, no doubt.
rich vos
He just...
A powerhouse.
joe rogan
He's a murderer.
rich vos
A fucking powerhouse.
joe rogan
He's the best at talking shit.
Like, he's one of the best guys ever on Kill Tony.
Like, Kill Tony is this podcast that we do, and they'll have, like, new comics.
Like, Open Micros will go up and do one minute.
And then it'll be, like, Dom Herrera, Tony Hinchcliffe, Brian, maybe me, and different comics.
You know, like, Russell Peters.
All these different comics will sit in and do a guest spot.
And Dom Herrera murders these fucking guys.
I mean, murders them.
He breaks it down.
I mean, and it's effortless for him.
You're crying and laughing.
I mean, that's...
If you guys ever wind up doing that as a television show, you really should have Dom on, like, permanently.
Like, he's the guy.
brian redban
He should be the Patriot.
joe rogan
The Patriot is unnecessary, as is the singer guy.
rich vos
I think we did that in New York.
Sherrod had a show at the comic strip where new comics would go on, like five of them, and then we'd sit there and judge.
But they did like five minutes.
brian redban
Right.
rich vos
And you don't want to...
Destroy their dreams, but you have to be honest with them, right?
You know cuz they're just gonna have false hope right and a lot of comics do have false hope because No one will tell them exactly.
No one will tell me you know This is how you do when I first started.
I mean I stunk last year, but I really stunk when I started You don't find your voice to who knows when.
joe rogan
There's a lot of work, and there's a lot of being honest, and there's a lot of listening to yourself, and there's a lot of correction, and everybody doesn't start from the same spot.
Some guys start out funnier than you, and you just got to accept that, and you can't judge yourself by that.
You just got to keep going.
Just keep going and keep trying to improve on what you do.
This is what I want to ask.
When you would write for Chris, what was it like?
Did you guys meet in an office?
How did it work?
rich vos
For the Oscars?
joe rogan
For any of the things you did.
rich vos
Well, the movie, we'd sit on the set.
And if you saw him do one thing...
And it didn't always have to be funny.
You can go, maybe say it that way.
Or walk in from here.
Or take your shirt off.
You know what I mean?
He just had different eyes on him.
Because he was directing besides starring.
unidentified
Acting and writing.
rich vos
You know, starring and writing.
So, you know, when he has different eyes, you know, he had, you know, another comic...
His name slipped my mind, and another director, Nelson George.
And his acting coach was on the set, too.
This was all for top five.
And not every day.
And you'd see something, or you'd say a line, you know.
And when Chris liked it, you could tell he liked it.
And if he didn't like it, you'd go, hmm.
You know.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
And for the Oscars, he pretty much had his own stuff.
He kind of knew what he wanted to do for the Oscars.
But he would say to the comics, and he had like 13 writers.
He had, you know, Chef wrote, Apollo, Lance, and his crew.
And Stillson was the head, you know, I guess the head writer, Jeff Stillson.
You know, me.
And, you know, he'd go out to the comedy club.
And he goes, well, I'm going to Laugh Factory tonight.
Who wants to come?
Whoever wants to come, I'll be at...
And some of them didn't go.
But I went every night to sit and watch.
And, you know, this is the set he's going to do at the Oscars.
joe rogan
And then you give notes.
rich vos
But with the Oscars, I didn't give notes right there.
I sent mine in.
And I think they went through Stilson...
Then to him.
You know?
So, I mean, I'm not going to say...
I got one or two things on, which was great.
You know?
I just wrote for the Commie Central roast for Bieber.
And I'm not a writer like that.
Bonnie's the writer.
Bonnie can write.
You want something fucking written?
You ask Bonnie.
She'll fucking write a book.
I mean, this bitch knows how to write.
I'm not fucking...
She knows how to write.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
So...
But Ro's stuff, I can come up with some stuff, you know, and punching up, I'm good at, because I could see from my, you know, just from being a stand-up for 30 years and watching, you know, that there were certain things that Chris goes, yeah, that's right.
You know, and the other comic, yeah, he's smart.
Chris is smart.
He keeps funny people around him to tell him, you know, You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, that's one of the reasons why his career's lasted so long, is that he's open-minded like that.
rich vos
Yes.
joe rogan
You know, because there's a big drop-off in a lot of people's acts.
You know, you'll see, like, early sets are really, really good, and then, you know, as they get older and older, they become almost like a caricature of themselves.
Kinnison is always my best example of that.
Kenison, I think in 86, if he wasn't the greatest of all time, it's him in prior.
I feel like from 86 to 88, he was the greatest of all time.
I mean, he was a monster.
And people who are alive today, you have to look at him in perspective.
You have to look at him in perspective of what was around back then.
There was nothing like that then.
He came out of nowhere.
And he just didn't last.
The stuff that he put out before his death was dogshit.
It was like an open-miker doing an impression of Kinnison.
It was terrible.
rich vos
Yeah, you know what?
I did.
I heard one of those albums, and I'm going, But he was way ahead of his time, you know, when it came to such edgy fucking material.
joe rogan
Well, he just was doing coke and partying and hanging out, and there just wasn't a lot of writing going on.
And I'm sure there was a lot of yes-men in his fucking corner.
rich vos
Oh, yeah.
All those guys were...
joe rogan
Like when Jenny...
Jenny worked with him on his specials, too, right?
Didn't he work with him on some of his material?
rich vos
I don't know who worked with him on his specials.
joe rogan
I was always fascinated, like, how they did that.
If they sat in a room and went over material, if they...
rich vos
I've seen Chris prepare.
I've seen him come down.
I was at Bananas one night on a weekend, the one in Jersey, and I saw him at the...
He goes, so you're at Bananas this weekend.
I go, if you want to stop, stop in.
He stopped in on Saturday.
This was two years ago.
And did 45 minutes.
But he was working out stuff.
It was all new stuff.
joe rogan
So when is he stopping in?
Is he doing it after your set or something like that?
rich vos
No, he went on before me.
joe rogan
You were the headliner?
rich vos
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So you wait an extra 45 minutes before you go out?
rich vos
No big deal.
The middle, we took off the show.
We took the middle off.
minutes, whatever.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
rich vos
And then Chris came in and did, you know, because he doesn't want to hang out and wait for me to get done.
He wants to get in and get out.
So he went on and it was pretty much new stuff.
And some killed something.
You know, when you're Chris Rock and you're Seinfeld or Louie, you have, I guess, a three-minute pass to walk on stage and the audience is like, whoa!
But you have to be funny.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
After you get that...
joe rogan
Right, don't periscope the fucking show.
unidentified
Just stop.
joe rogan
Just stop.
Just pay attention.
Just talk.
Jesus Christ.
rich vos
So, you know what I mean?
You get a free few-minute pass.
But even with his new stuff...
It was almost honed, so he had it, you know.
And you would see Chris walk up to the cellar, come in, when he's working on a new, walk in with his notebook, put it down, you know.
And he would throw old stuff in to, you know, to keep the crowd going, you know.
But you watch him.
And it's brilliant, but the thing I love about, love about, he loves comedy.
He knows comedy.
Like, we'll sit and talk and, like, we'll say Rita Rudner.
He'll go, one of the best joke writers ever.
And she is a great joke writer.
Rita Rudner knows how to write a joke.
You know, and Chris knows fucking comedy.
He could talk.
He said to my wife, he goes, look, if you have a fucking hour of good material and you're a female and you're not famous, something's fucking wrong.
joe rogan
Right?
rich vos
You know?
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, a good hour, you know, for a female, a good hour, you know, he knows comedy.
He fucking loves comedy.
And that's why I love being with Bonnie.
She loves comedy.
She knows comedy.
She could break down and see, you know...
joe rogan
What's good and what's bad.
rich vos
What's bad and what's hacked.
She'll tell me, you can't do that.
joe rogan
Do you write, like, in front of a computer, on a piece of paper, or do you just write on stage?
rich vos
It just got to come to me on stage.
unidentified
Like, I... I have this...
rich vos
The best bit I read recently came to me from being on stage and it just kills.
It just fucking kills.
joe rogan
I'm opening my hour with it.
You don't ever try to like sit down in front of a computer?
unidentified
Never.
rich vos
Never in a million.
If I was writing for like Tough Crowd or on Red Eye or, you know, when I was on one of those roundtables, yeah, you gotta write fucking dumb jokes.
And even for Red Eye, I barely, I write a line and hopefully I can ad-lib my way through the show because, you know, it's fucking the day.
I'm not getting paid anyhow.
So what the fuck?
How much?
But with Tough Crowd, I wrote stuff.
joe rogan
What is that Fox News show?
rich vos
Yeah, Fox late at night.
It's a roundtable.
joe rogan
Do you film it late at night?
rich vos
No, they film at 8 a.m.
And it comes on at night.
It's a good show for what it is.
Bonnie's guest hosting it tonight.
She's guest hosting.
She'll be on tonight.
joe rogan
I've never watched it.
I've seen a couple clips of comics on it or people saying controversial things on it, but I've never understood what it is.
rich vos
It's like any of the other roundtable shows.
joe rogan
It's on Fox News?
rich vos
Yeah, I used to do Joey Behar when she was on CNN, and that was Roundtable.
joe rogan
She's a bright woman.
rich vos
She's fucking smart.
joe rogan
Very bright.
rich vos
But she's so left.
Look, when you're so left and so right, to me, a lot of it...
You become delusional.
joe rogan
Well, it gets ideological, like you're locked into a certain rigid way of thinking.
rich vos
You've got to have a bending point.
It can't be all white and black.
It just can't be.
joe rogan
What is her big issues?
rich vos
Well, I mean, she's just so left.
She hates the right.
Bush, everything he did was completely wrong.
Everything Obama does is completely right.
joe rogan
So she's an Obama supporter even after all these years?
rich vos
Well, I haven't done her show in so long, but she's very left-wing.
joe rogan
Is she still on that show?
rich vos
No, no, it's gone.
But she was so pro-comic and so, you know, I mean, her show, she had comics on all the time.
I did her show 23 times, you know, two emails.
joe rogan
She sent you two emails?
rich vos
No, from fans.
joe rogan
That's all you got?
rich vos
No.
Her fan base was a little older.
joe rogan
They don't get online?
rich vos
No, they don't go.
They don't fucking write you emails.
unidentified
You get emails from NIST. Old Democrats that live in the city.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
rich vos
Yeah.
They're going to email me.
You were funny.
That the fuck?
But she's pro-comic.
She was great in our movie.
She did our movie.
You know, so her Red Eye is basically that type of show.
To me, you know, People say Bill Maher's show was the first, but Tough Crowd was the first of comics pretty much saying what they wanted to say, and saying what you couldn't say on other shows, and not only disagreeing with somebody, smacking them around a little for being stupid.
Okay, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a great show.
unidentified
Why don't they bring that back?
joe rogan
Tough Crowd, bring it back.
I mean, Colin Quinn's still alive.
What the fuck?
brian redban
Is he doing a podcast?
Because it's not even going to be a good podcast, Tough Crowd podcast.
rich vos
Comicery.
joe rogan
It might be better that way, actually.
rich vos
Colin puts out one-man shows.
He's working on his next one.
He did Unconstitutional.
He did the one before it.
joe rogan
Does he like doing that better than stand-up?
rich vos
Well, I guess he's so fucking brilliant, man.
I guess stand-up is too easy for him, or he's not saying anything he wants to say like he's doing in these one-man shows, you know?
joe rogan
Maybe it feels confined by the desire to get, you know, you have to get laughs every X amount of seconds.
rich vos
He can go into theaters and do these shows.
You can't do these shows in comedy clubs, really.
joe rogan
Right.
rich vos
It's a different kind of show.
Yes, it's a whole different thing.
I just talked to him when I was driving here.
I go, you done with your thing?
He goes, yeah, a book deal.
He's done with his book.
But the guy's always fucking creating.
He's always creating.
joe rogan
Is he a happy guy?
rich vos
I think he's really centered.
You know, I think he's really centered.
Because I called him about something one day that I was really fucking torn apart about.
He goes, did you go to a meeting?
Or whatever.
He goes...
It's all bullshit.
Go fucking get in touch with what's really bothering you.
You know what I mean?
So he's pretty centered as a person.
And I think he's comfortable in his own skin.
You know what I mean?
So many people are not comfortable in their hiding.
joe rogan
Well, that's why he's really good at playing that silly part on Twitter.
If you go to Colin Quinn's Twitter, if you don't understand his sense of humor, people are like, where's the funny?
I'm not seeing how you're funny.
You're missing what he's doing.
And he doesn't try to convert those people, ever.
You don't see him arguing with them.
rich vos
He doesn't block him like I will.
He's fucking...
It's so...
They don't get the fact that he's making fun of everything and he's playing a character on there.
It's so fucking...
They had a big article in New York Times about him on Twitter.
How good he is on Twitter.
He's like the number one.
I heard Norm McDonald's really funny.
unidentified
He does golf, play-by-play golf.
rich vos
I heard it's fucking brilliant.
joe rogan
Norm's just funny.
rich vos
Period.
So yeah, Colin.
Probably the reason the show never came back.
Well, one...
It leaned a little to the right.
You know, I mean Nick leaned to the right.
Colin leaned to the right.
I guess Geraldo was neutral.
joe rogan
He was a little more left.
rich vos
Yeah, he was who Geraldo?
Yeah, he was left.
He was left.
joe rogan
Norton's a little right.
rich vos
Was at the time a little to right.
Norton's more neutral now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich vos
I was...
More to the right then, but I'm neutral now.
joe rogan
Well, I think what Norton was, he was, and still is, I think, he's anti the hypocrisy of the left.
rich vos
That's what I, that's completely the hypocrite.
joe rogan
Yeah, because it's like all the idea, if you put it on paper and you had a checklist of what do you actually support, gay marriage, check, you know, racial equality, check, like all the things that the left pushes for, I'm in their corner on almost all of it.
But then it gets to certain things that That you just go, well, you guys are just silly.
There's certain aspects of any all-left or all-right ideology.
The worst thing to me is when I'm talking to someone and they talk about the Democrats, like, look, we got a win in 2016. What is this we?
Are you...
Are you running for president?
We gotta win?
Is this a team for you?
And then you realize, well, it kind of is a team for them.
It becomes this, you know, Patriots versus the fucking Steelers or something.
It just gets to one of those things.
rich vos
People voted for Obama.
See, a lot of young...
If you're under 25, you're not supposed...
You shouldn't have a point of view.
Shut your fucking mouth.
You haven't lived long enough to know.
joe rogan
Yeah, you probably shouldn't be able to vote unless you could write a paper explaining why you want Obama or this guy.
And then you could have it read by people who, you know, have a brain, have life experience.
But that doesn't make sense either because...
rich vos
Well, people, when he won, people wanted something different.
But people voted the first election out of emotions, not out of intellect.
joe rogan
Well, I thought he was good out of intellect.
I thought he was good.
First of all, he was so much more articulate than Bush.
rich vos
But he wasn't running against Bush.
joe rogan
But it doesn't matter.
It's like, coming back from that, it's like, okay, now we have someone who actually can talk, who's obviously brilliant.
He's a very smart person.
And his ideas, like the ideas about closing Guantanamo Bay, getting out of his fucking wars.
unidentified
Did it happen?
joe rogan
No, it didn't.
But that's what you learn.
You learn from a guy like Obama that it doesn't matter.
That this...
What politics is really all about is about stroking the back of the people that got you there.
rich vos
It's a business.
What you got to do to keep your business running.
Farrakhan is a fucking brilliant speaker.
Have you ever heard him speak?
He's a great speaker.
He fucking captivates.
He keeps you...
But what are they saying?
What is any politician saying that hasn't been fucking said before?
joe rogan
Not much.
rich vos
Okay?
They're saying the same thing in a different change.
Yeah, well, of course everybody wants fucking change.
Nobody's fucking happy that, you know...
Mortgages are sky high.
Interest rates are fucking less than half a percent.
Nobody wants to, you know, at times the gas prices were $4 a gallon.
Yeah, of course you want change.
But all that other stuff is bullshit.
It's all bullshit.
It's just them trying to keep their business fucking running.
joe rogan
That's my opinion.
And their business involves having people donate money to them to get them into office.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then keeping those people happy once they get in office.
I mean, that's what we found out about Obama.
Obama just, if you look at him on paper, first of all, the stuff that he's done against whistleblowers, that was a whole part of his campaign, that if someone comes forward exposing illegal activity, we will protect them.
I mean, that was a part of The We Are Change website.
They redacted that from the website in light of the Edward Snowden and Chelsea Handler shit.
Chelsea Handler.
Chelsea Manning.
unidentified
What if she take off her shirt again?
joe rogan
No, that's how strong Chelsea Handler is as a personality.
You say the word Chelsea, you have to say Handler after it.
Not even Clinton.
Not even Chelsea Clinton.
You know, all that shit that happened with WikiLeaks, you know, the idea that they're protecting whistleblowers has been debunked.
I mean, there's none of that.
I mean, that was part of the promise that they were saying in office, like, if people come forth and expose illegal activity, we're going to protect them.
Well, they did, and you didn't.
And that was a core component of what people were looking forward from him, that he was going to be different than these fucking criminals that were in charge before he was in there.
rich vos
Fucking the FBI, even your local detective, is not going to fucking burn their informants.
Because their informants are what are giving them numbers.
joe rogan
But the problem is, what these guys, what Edward Snowden did, what Chelsea Manning did, was expose them.
And, you know, that's the government.
That's the very people that he works for.
So the idea of whistleblowers wasn't nearly as attractive when they were blowing the whistle on the actual government themselves.
rich vos
The guys in your fucking building.
joe rogan
They weren't like whistleblowing on corporations or whistleblowing on, you know, the people that fucking spilled the oil out in the middle of the Gulf Coast.
It was the actual government itself, the NSA, the CIA. Do you think since he's been in office, and this is...
rich vos
I mean, racial divide has grown, I think, immensely since he's been in office.
joe rogan
In some ways.
In some ways it's actually come around.
I think people are united in a sense in a lot of ways because they realize how much racism there really is.
How much racism black people have to deal with when it comes to the police.
When you watch all these videos of black people being harassed by the cops or beaten up by the cops or that Eric Gardner guy getting choked to death in New York.
rich vos
Ridiculous.
It should never happen.
Should have never happened.
joe rogan
It probably wouldn't happen if there was a white guy in a suit, and we all know that.
rich vos
But you know, as much as the media exploits, every now and every fucking time you see now there's a cop doing something wrong or doing this wrong or doing...
You're not seeing, you know, four fucking criminals walking down the street.
You don't know if they're fucking packing a weapon.
You don't see them harassed.
It's all, right now, what's selling fucking papers now.
And we're saying papers loosely, is what are the cops doing to black people?
That's what's selling right now.
That's what's headlines are.
And look, as many bad cops, and you know it's maybe one out of 20. One out of, you know, the percentages, you know, like this.
This lady, I didn't see the documentary, made a documentary about AA. All the predators in AA, all the criminals and this and that, and people taking advantage.
Well, guess what?
You got fucking people in rooms that were fucking ex-heroin addicts, in and out of jail, some killers, some this.
Yeah, there's going to be some fucked up people.
joe rogan
What's the numbers that you're dealing with?
You're dealing with millions and millions of people.
Look at it this way.
How many people do you think get arrested by the cops or have interaction with the cops every fucking day of the week across the entire country?
It's got to be in the hundreds of thousands of interactions every day.
So these glaring instances like the guy in South Carolina that shot that guy, fucked up.
Unbelievably fucked up.
What happened in Baltimore?
Fucked up.
What happened in Ferguson?
Fucked up.
Those fucked up instances, those become like something that they can focus on.
Because those are these blips.
And in the overall scheme of things, in comparison to how many interactions people actually have with the cops...
The amount of times people get shot in those situations are fairly small.
But we're dealing with hundreds of millions of people and the interactions of hundreds of millions of people on a daily basis.
And you're going to find things to focus on.
Does it mean there's no problem?
No, there's definitely a fucking problem.
If one of those things happen, that's a problem.
That one instance is a problem.
rich vos
That thing in Staten Island was unwatchable.
joe rogan
Which one?
Oh, the choke?
rich vos
Yeah, it was unwatchable.
Do you think the cops went in there with the mindset, I want to kill this guy?
joe rogan
Well, they fucked up because they were getting, well, first of all, they use cops to collect revenue.
That's a problem.
That's part of the problem.
It's like they use cops to write tickets, they use cops to make arrests, they have quotas.
That's fucked up.
They're doing that because they want to make money and they want these cops to be profitable for them.
If no one did any crime, what the fuck would cops do if they have quotas?
If there was no crime, if the whole country agreed to have a moratorium on crime for like three weeks, What the fuck would everybody do?
They would have to start planning crime.
They'd have to start faking crime and arresting people for shit that didn't happen.
rich vos
Yeah, but that's the same as saying if there was no fires, firemen wouldn't have to...
joe rogan
No, it's not.
Because there's oftentimes no fires for years, and no one ever talks about, like, hey, we don't need the fire department anymore.
Everybody knows that fires are always possible.
So you want to keep a fire department.
If anybody ever ran for mayor and said, look, we don't need a fire department.
Everybody just stop playing with matches.
All right, we're good.
We just cut money off the budget.
They would go, well, what the fuck are you talking about?
But the idea of having no cops because there's no crime, people would welcome that.
They would welcome that.
Like, oh, we don't need cops.
There's no crime anymore.
rich vos
Like, you can't...
joe rogan
You can't, like, force these people to make arrests.
And the idea of putting quotas on cops, if you have lazy cops that don't go out and enforce the law, well, then you need to get better cops.
But what you can't do is you can't make people arrest people.
Because if you make people arrest people, you're assuming someone's gonna do something bad.
If no one did anything bad, isn't that the whole point of having a police presence?
Like, the whole point of having a police presence is people realize, oh, there's cops, I don't want to do anything bad.
But if that happened, those cops would be fucked, because they have quotas.
You know, and people try to say there's no quotas.
unidentified
Bullshit!
rich vos
Of course there's quotas.
Traffic quotas.
joe rogan
Bullfucking shit.
I know, cops.
They tell me.
Even if there's unwritten quotas, there's quotas.
There's pressure on them to arrest people.
And it's been proven time and time again that there's quotas.
And it varies by department.
It varies by city and state.
But without a doubt, there's a lot of pressure on people to arrest people.
rich vos
So they can get funding.
Yes, yes, of course.
joe rogan
I mean, that's how they make money in these fucking asset forfeiture situations where people are getting their money taken from them.
This fucking kid, there was one on Amtrak.
The DEA is catching people on Amtrak because some kid had money saved up.
He had $16,000 on him.
Clean criminal record.
No fucking history of drug sales.
No history of drug use.
They took his fucking money.
rich vos
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Amtrak.
Civil forfeiture.
The DEA is involved in these civil forfeiture cases.
It's fucking disgusting, man.
Here's one of them.
Richland.
$4.1 million police station funded by civil forfeiture.
You fucking criminals.
Criminals!
You're stealing money from the people that you're supposed to be fucking protecting.
They steal, and then you have to take them to court, and you have to try to get that money back.
Even if somebody made money from selling drugs, even if they made money from selling drugs, that's not the fucking police department's money.
They can't take that money and buy margarita machines and all this shit they've been accused of doing.
Because that's what they have been- they've been convicted of doing that.
It's awful.
rich vos
Well, it's a whole corrupt society, you know, I mean...
joe rogan
Well, it's corrupt because they've been allowed to be corrupt, because they've got incompetent shitheads that are running these police departments, and good cops are forced into bad situations.
If you have it on the books that they're allowed to take money from people, then it's up to their discretion, and then you have these fucking idiots that, you know, just decide to pull the trigger, and you're gonna have...
A certain amount of idiots in any group of people.
If you have 500 people, you've got five idiots no matter what you do.
No matter what you do, you poll any 500 people.
Five of them you're going to want to kill with a fucking hammer.
They're assholes.
No matter what you do, there's a certain amount of people that are just dumb as shit.
rich vos
There's four in this room, and I know one of these is an idiot right here, me.
You're not an idiot, bitch.
joe rogan
You just occasionally sound like one.
unidentified
Here's...
rich vos
Look, if they want to take your property and build a highway through your fucking property, they'll do it.
joe rogan
No, they're not.
They're not going to do it.
They're not doing it anymore.
They're not doing it anymore because of stories like that, because people find out about asset forfeiture.
They've started to rescind those laws.
They've started to pull those laws back.
They shouldn't just pull those balls back.
They should put everyone who fucking was a part of that in jail.
Everyone who let people take some kid's $16,000 and you make them go to court for it.
You know how much money it costs to fight against, and then you have to pull receipts for how you made that $16,000?
This is supposed to be America, okay?
You're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.
$16,000 isn't that much fucking money.
It's not like the guy had $2 billion in gold bullion.
Like, where'd you get it?
unidentified
Fuck you!
joe rogan
Like, hey, settle down, buddy.
You might have done something illegal to get $2 billion.
You're only 12. No, this is a kid who earned money, and they stole it from him because they decided it was reasonably suspicious.
rich vos
But you're going from a whole different...
The police officer on the street doing what they got to do to stop crime and stay alive to the bureaucrats that are passing these fucking laws.
And they're just pawns.
The cops are just pawns in the chess game.
joe rogan
Well, they may start out as pawns, but somewhere along the line, a lot of times they wind up being fucking...
Legal criminals.
They wind up doing what should be illegal shit, but it is legal.
rich vos
So does half the club owners we work for.
So does half the corporations.
One just got caught dumping...
They're all fucking...
The banks are the biggest...
Less than half a percent interest, but when a loan, you take out a loan, you're paying, what, 4%, 5% interest, 6% on a loan?
joe rogan
But you agree to do that.
I mean, that's something you say, well, okay, I'll agree to this.
rich vos
I need that money.
You have no choice.
joe rogan
You have no choice.
The choice is to not get that loan.
There's a big difference between that and someone stealing your money when they pull you over because they decide you shouldn't have $10,000 on you.
They've been doing that for a long time.
They've been pulling people over for a long time just taking their money.
Because if you have money on you, you have to prove that you got that money through legal means.
That is bullshit.
And, you know, it's situations like that that engender or create this lack of trust in law enforcement.
You created an enemy.
You created an enemy in that kid.
That kid is going to distrust the DEA and the FBI and the CIA. And anybody that pulls him over, he's going to distrust them forever because you ruined his life for a long period of time.
The time he's got to go to court, the sleepless nights he spent thinking of this smirking cunt That stole his fucking money with a badge on.
That criminal with a fucking badge on.
rich vos
But you know what?
unidentified
Look.
rich vos
I'm a little upset.
joe rogan
You didn't even take money from me, Rich.
rich vos
What am I pitching on?
Black people.
You can't even imagine a struggle because you're not black.
White liberals go, oh, I know your struggle.
You don't know the struggle.
joe rogan
No, they don't know.
rich vos
You don't know the struggles.
You don't leave the house every day in fear.
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
How about that stop-and-frisk shit they were doing in New York?
rich vos
That's all being exploited.
And I agree.
I grew up in a black nation.
I've seen it.
I never felt it or lived it, but I've seen it.
Okay?
Because that's where I grew up.
So I had the feeling of anti-Semitism that I could feel because that's what I see and feel.
But you will never see the story of the cops that went in and stopped a gang war or broke up, you know, a husband from killing his fucking wife on a domestic call that saved his wife and that family's life.
joe rogan
And risked their lives.
rich vos
And risked their lives.
And saved two kids because the fucking father or even the mother...
Fucking lost it.
joe rogan
Some dummy, some bureaucrat, some dummy, some administrator, whoever the fuck, passed those regulations that allowed cops to steal money from people.
They're the problem.
You gave them legal power.
You gave them a green light, and you made it where it's not even against the law.
And so they feel like they're justified in doing that.
You've got to be very careful of the power that you give people, because it's very difficult to take that power back.
And it's also very difficult to take that righteous attitude.
They have this attitude like what they're doing is just because it's legal.
Because they can't look at it objectively.
It's hard.
rich vos
But don't you think...
In the morning...
Five cops.
You take five cops.
Roll call.
They listen.
Don't you think...
I don't know what percentage, but let's even say seven out of ten...
joe rogan
Five, and then there's seven out of ten.
rich vos
No, no, I was just going to use five cops.
I don't even know how many grams were announced.
But say whatever the percentage is.
joe rogan
Okay.
rich vos
That most of those cops aren't going to work going, I'm going to find somebody and take money.
I would bet that most of those cops are going, I'm going to try to do something good today.
I'm going to try to stop.
I'm sure a lot of them do.
I'm sure more are there to protect and serve than there are to fuck you over.
You know what I mean?
So the ones that are there risking their lives, because they're going to a job where they might not come home.
They might not fucking come home.
joe rogan
Like I said, it's not them.
It's the fucking people that give them laws, that pass laws that allow them to do these things.
They make it legal.
rich vos
But the law you're talking about is where they can take that money.
joe rogan
That's just one of them.
How about stop and frisk?
Imagine if you're a black guy and you're walking down New York and you've done nothing wrong, you're going to school, and some asshole with a fucking chip on his shoulder thinks it's okay for him to touch your body and start rifling through your fucking pockets for no reason.
Maybe he calls you a racial slur in the process if you resist him.
And there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.
rich vos
But do you don't think that Happens in in white areas.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter if it happens in white areas I'm just saying like it's not just happening at all because you gave them the possibility you let them on paper You made it legal for them to do that as soon as you make it legal for them to do things that are inappropriate that don't make any sense like if there's no there's no real reasonable Like, reason to search someone.
They're not in the middle of something criminal.
They're not doing anything suspicious.
They're just walking down the street.
That's discrimination.
And you're giving them a legal precedent.
You're giving them a legal, on paper, reason to pull someone over and be a cunt.
rich vos
Okay.
And you're right.
But how many serial killers, how many rapists, how many kidnappers have been caught due to profiling?
The FBI, I mean...
joe rogan
That's not profiling.
Stop and Frisk is not profiling.
rich vos
Yes, it is profiling because they're looking at people...
Black people?
joe rogan
How many people were white that got pulled over for Stop and Frisk?
rich vos
How do you know in Ohio that you're just looking at...
joe rogan
That's a New York City law.
That stop and frisk shit?
rich vos
It was only in New York.
joe rogan
That was where it was widely criticized.
I'm sure cops do similar things in other places.
rich vos
Well, yes, they stop you.
If you're going through fucking Toledo, Ohio, and you see four white kids that look like trouble, that fit a profile, cops will fuck with them.
joe rogan
Well, they'll ask me questions, but they're not legally allowed to start searching through their pockets like they were in New York.
What they were doing in New York that's stop and frisk shit is bullshit.
That's fucked up.
rich vos
Okay, I don't know enough about it.
I don't know the crime statistics.
I do, do believe...
In certain types of profiling.
But we wouldn't catch half the...
You know, all the terrorism that has been stopped in this country, which we don't even know about.
And there's been a lot.
Okay, since 9-11, they have caught a lot of fucking people.
joe rogan
They've also entrapped a lot of people and forced them into doing terrorist shit.
Like that guy in Dallas.
They took some guy who was mentally challenged.
They forced him into this situation where they gave him a fake bomb and gave him a cellular phone to detonate it.
And then as soon as he tried to detonate it, they arrested him.
unidentified
Serious?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a famous case.
They tricked this dummy and they talked to him.
The guy probably would have never found the means or the resources to have this bomb in the first place.
Now he's in jail for the rest of his life.
rich vos
But wait, was he...
joe rogan
He was willing to make that call and blow that bomb up.
rich vos
Okay, well guess what?
joe rogan
You can convince people to join Scientology.
You can convince people.
Once they join Scientology, should you arrest them for being retarded?
rich vos
Okay, here's the thing.
I don't know the story, but if a cop can convince them, so can a fucking...
Yes.
So can...
joe rogan
So true.
So true.
But there's a lot of idiots out there.
rich vos
And guess what?
Profiling helps stopping those fucking idiots from committing these fucking atrocious attacks.
joe rogan
You can make that argument.
You could also make the argument that what they're doing is they're taking advantage of someone who's stupid.
And they're being very persuasive.
And they're getting some dummy to do something he probably would have never done in the first place.
And may have never even made contact with those kind of people in the first place.
Or people that have the resources to do those things.
rich vos
Why would they pick somebody like that unless there was a reason?
joe rogan
Because they want to make arrests.
It's a scorekeeping thing.
I mean, they want to make arrests.
A lot of them, yes.
A lot of them are trying to prevent crime.
They're trying to do good.
The vast majority.
But the problem is, there's enough wiggle room there for assholes.
And assholes get involved in police and law enforcement, and they fuck it up for everybody else.
Because all the good cops, they have to think about that guy in South Carolina that shot that guy Fucking ridiculous.
Exactly.
That becomes a part...
rich vos
But how come you don't hear about...
joe rogan
The good cops.
rich vos
No, not even that.
How come you don't hear...
joe rogan
Look at that.
What is this?
In 2012, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 532,911 times in one year.
473,644 were totally innocent.
89%.
That's criminal.
rich vos
Okay, guess what?
55% were black.
32%...
Latin.
joe rogan
Yeah, 10% white every time.
And the white people play with no teeth.
rich vos
You know what happens out of this?
joe rogan
Crackhead looking motherfuckers.
rich vos
You know what makes me happy about this?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
No Jews?
rich vos
No Jews.
joe rogan
Jews are white.
They have Jews in the white category.
rich vos
No, it would be Jews.
joe rogan
Where do you fall into?
I fall into Jews.
If I look to you, I'd say maybe Latin.
If you started talking Spanish, if I ran into you, see, papi, you know, you started...
rich vos
When someone, people, trash white people, I don't give a fuck.
If they trash Jews, I get upset.
joe rogan
But white people are Jews.
Jews are white people.
rich vos
Yeah, but not, not WASP or white people.
brian redban
That was right after, you know, it's weird, because look at 2012, how big it is, and then look how, in 2014, the big drop.
What was it like?
unidentified
They stopped doing it.
joe rogan
They stopped it.
They got in trouble.
brian redban
What was 2011?
joe rogan
They sued the fuck out of people.
rich vos
But wait a second, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
A lot of lawful...
rich vos
Does it say...
joe rogan
Look at 88% in 2011. But guess what?
rich vos
Guess what they're not saying?
joe rogan
Almost all of it is 80 plus percent innocent.
rich vos
But guess what?
In these statistics, they're not saying whether crime has risen or dropped.
joe rogan
Who gives a fuck?
It doesn't matter.
You can't just ruin people's lives.
You can't just arrest people, frisk them, fuck with them, give them all this crazy stress if they're totally innocent.
In 2006, it was 90% innocent.
It's ridiculous.
It's a stupid policy.
brian redban
Did this start right after 9-11?
joe rogan
No!
Well, it started after 9-11, but they're deep into 2012 when they were doing it.
brian redban
That's when it first started.
joe rogan
Yeah, 2002, 86% were totally innocent.
rich vos
Who was mayor at the time when this started?
joe rogan
82% in 2002. Who was mayor?
rich vos
Was it Giuliani?
brian redban
Giuliani, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
rich vos
Well, he was a head district attorney.
This guy was, you know, he was...
joe rogan
Cocksucker.
unidentified
Nine out of ten.
joe rogan
Nine out of ten.
Stop and frisk New Yorkers have been completely innocent.
That's not good.
brian redban
And it makes you wonder, like, what is that one, oh, they had some weed on them, or, you know, they had, like, an expired driver's license.
rich vos
Okay, yeah, injustice.
There's fucking injustice throughout this world.
There's injustice amongst blacks, whites, Jews.
joe rogan
But obviously more blacks than whites, and if you know the numbers, there's way more white people than black people in New York.
rich vos
That's racial profiling.
joe rogan
That's an illegal policy.
It might be legal, but it's an immoral, unjust, unethical, racist policy.
rich vos
Should there be racial profiling towards Middle Easterns?
joe rogan
No!
rich vos
You don't think so?
unidentified
No!
rich vos
At all?
joe rogan
No!
rich vos
No racial profiling at all?
joe rogan
No, look, if you know something about someone's past, do you know how many fucking people are in the Middle East?
You know how many people that are in the Middle East that aren't terrorists?
The vast majority!
unidentified
Yes, you're right.
joe rogan
So you're saying, like, because a small percentage are terrorists, you should racially profile the vast majority of innocent people and subject them to all sorts of scrutiny that you wouldn't white people only at the airport.
Why is it the airport?
I know.
When are they going to pick fucking the NASCAR races and shit?
It seems like there's a lot more people to be killed at larger areas.
There's something about airplanes.
They're terrifying already, so terror in airplanes just ramps it up even further.
rich vos
We have the smartest people in the world that are supposedly running these countries, these airlines.
Do you know history...
How different history would be with a fucking...
If there was a $5 deadbolt on that fucking cockpit door.
Okay?
Just a deadbolt.
Okay?
How...
After all the hijackings...
joe rogan
How about if there were sky marshals on planes?
If there were sky marshals on planes before 9-11, 9-11 would have never happened.
They would have just taken those fucking guys out, that would have been a wrap, that would have been the end of it.
You have highly trained cops, you know, mercenaries, you get some black water guys, whatever the fuck you gotta do, guys have been to war, know how to kill people, and you put them on these planes to guard them from assholes with box cutters, and you're done.
I mean, you cost a little money, and The idea that they were unprotected from something like that, and the idea that you could use a plane as a weapon, and that had been considered long before September 11th.
I mean, they had talked about that many, many times, about what would happen if terrorists took over.
I mean, that was not like an unthought-of scenario.
rich vos
So how come none of these fucking CEOs or heads of these airlines said, We fucking locked the pilots in.
They don't open the door under any circumstances.
joe rogan
How about that fucking guy in Germany?
The pilot went to take a shit.
The co-pilot, who's depressed, decides to fly the plane into a mountain and they can't even get inside.
I mean, that's insane.
They're pounding on the door and this asshole just drops the plane right down into a mountain.
I mean, how the fuck is that possible?
How is there no fail-safe method to get inside that plane?
Or how do they not have a phone where they can override, where they can call someone who could override the controls?
It seems to me like there should be another way into that.
And I wonder how hard it is to break that fucking door down.
brian redban
Yeah.
rich vos
Well, now it's probably like a vault.
unidentified
I don't know.
brian redban
It's probably one of those big, heavy metal doors.
joe rogan
It seems pretty big, but I wonder.
I wonder how hard it is.
I wonder how hard it is to break down.
unidentified
Was that proven that your co-pilot just flew into the mountain?
joe rogan
Yeah, totally intentional.
He was depressed.
He was on antidepressants.
He was suicidal.
He was all fucked up.
rich vos
I mean, suicide is selfish to begin with.
I mean, I can't deal with it.
I don't know.
I don't know anybody.
But to take a whole fucking plane down, you know, what a fucking motherfucking piece of...
joe rogan
And again, you know, we focus on that.
Meanwhile, how many thousands of planes fly successfully every day?
And we don't even think about that.
brian redban
Why is there not one parachute on the plane, though?
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
You would die anyway, man.
You're going 30,000 feet.
You wouldn't have any air when you jumped out.
You probably would die of having no air.
And on top of that, it'd be freezing fucking cold.
The idea that you would be fine and you'd make it, like when you parachute, you don't really parachute from that high.
rich vos
It's very rare.
joe rogan
And when they do, they have all sorts of special equipment, oxygen tanks and shit.
rich vos
It was on, I don't know, 60 Minutes or something.
I didn't see it, Bonnie told me.
And it makes sense.
If you went on a plane wearing a helmet or brought a helmet on, your chances of survival are a lot better because most people...
When a plane crashes, hit their head on the fucking seat or whatever.
They get knocked out unconscious and they burn to death.
So if you got a fucking helmet, boom, you hit your head after crash.
joe rogan
You're probably going out anyway.
I got news for you.
You get hit going 500 miles an hour and your fucking head is jello.
When they catch guys who die in motorcycle accidents, they call them squids.
Because they have helmets on, but their neck gets snapped anyway.
And so they're like a squid.
Everything below the hard stuff is just mush.
rich vos
Or how come?
I'm waiting for the airplane.
Oh man, that really fucking defeated my fucking theory.
Because every time I go on a plane now, I try to get a blanket in case it's going to crash.
I wrap my head up like a turban.
joe rogan
We've got to wrap this up.
I've got to get out of here, unfortunately.
rich vos
How come they don't make...
Goddamn, when I'm on, it just flows.
How come...
I don't know.
I bring it to another level.
I don't know if Tom and Christine does what Bonnie and I do.
joe rogan
Well, there's only one way to find out.
rich vos
The roast battle.
joe rogan
Roast battle.
Will you guys be willing to fly in for this?
rich vos
Yeah, probably.
We can book something around it.
We want to do a week vacation in here anyhow.
joe rogan
Okay.
Well, tell me when you're doing it.
I'll have you guys both in studio together, and we'll promote it.
rich vos
Yeah, but we got to do it in a club, you mean, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
No, I'm saying you and Bonnie have you guys in studio to promote it, and maybe I'll have Tom and Christina in studio as well.
rich vos
That sounds fun.
joe rogan
On a different day, or maybe even the same day.
unidentified
Same day.
joe rogan
Chaos.
rich vos
Yeah, that sounds fucking fun.
joe rogan
Total chaos.
Yeah, we'll do it.
Alright, we gotta end this, though.
rich vos
Thanks for having me this weekend.
joe rogan
You're the best.
Love you, buddy.
rich vos
Friday through Sunday, Ventura Comedy Club.
Thank you for having me again.
unidentified
You're fucking hilarious.
joe rogan
I fucking love doing this.
And go see him this weekend.
I guarantee you're gonna have a good time.
If you don't have a good time, you're a shithead, and you have a terrible sense of humor.
Rich Voss would be at the Ventura Comedy Club Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Ventura Harbor Comedy Club.
Google it.
You can find it.
Rich Voss on Twitter.
Love you, buddy.
rich vos
Thanks for having me.
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