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Feb. 25, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #618 - Artie Lange
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artie lange
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joe rogan
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joe rogan
That was a struggle to put that tweet out, and I think I fucked it up.
As I was releasing it, I was like, bitch, you didn't even spellcheck that.
Artie Lang, ladies and gentlemen.
Artie Lang.
Yeah, I fucked it up.
Whatever.
I didn't do the right thing.
The colon was fucked up.
Damn.
unidentified
Whatever.
joe rogan
People figured out.
Artie Lang, ladies and gentlemen.
Artie Lang can play some fucking pool.
artie lange
Oh, yeah, man.
You got a pool table.
You got a pool table out there?
I didn't get this body running 10 miles a day.
But no, we played a couple games in the pool, but you kicked some ass too.
It was fun.
Did you play in a pool hall as a kid or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I tore my ACL when I was 21, and I couldn't work out until I got it fixed.
My friend John Tobin, who was a stand-up comic from New York, he and I used to meet at this pool hall and just shit away our days, you know, just wear comics.
And I just started playing obsessively.
I got hooked on playing in tournaments.
Yeah.
artie lange
I went through a nutty time where I couldn't stop playing pool.
I had all these delusions of grandeur that I was never going to have to work in.
Like Jackie Gleason in The Hustler with the chubby fingers going, Ace in the corner.
It's so classic, right?
When Paul Newman goes, look at that little chubby guy, walking around like a chubby ballerina.
unidentified
Look at the way he moves, like a dancer.
artie lange
It's like he's playing the violin.
The stick stuck between his chubby little fingers.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is an amazing movie.
Yeah, that's one of my all-time favorite movies.
artie lange
Absolutely.
Jackie Gleason's a hell of an actor, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, and we were saying, Jackie Gleason might have been like the best celebrity pool player ever.
Like, Jackie Gleason could run a hundred balls.
artie lange
It's hard to find somebody...
He almost beat Moscone once, I think, in straight pool.
Didn't, but almost did.
joe rogan
Didn't, but almost did?
I don't know about that.
That sounds like some bullshit that Italians say over the fire.
unidentified
Well...
joe rogan
This one time, Jackie Gleason had him on the fucking ropes.
He had him on the ropes.
Fucking Moscone, he was shitting himself.
Couldn't believe it.
This guy's going to be better than me at everything.
artie lange
Yeah, I also have an uncle who told me he struck out Dominic DiMaggio.
joe rogan
Oh, Dominic DiMaggio.
Joe DiMaggio's retarded brother.
artie lange
No, he wasn't that retarded.
joe rogan
Was it a real Dominic?
artie lange
There was.
It was a Vince, Dominic, and Joe.
joe rogan
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
I was making that up.
artie lange
They all died broke.
joe rogan
Really?
artie lange
Pretty much.
After the 1989 San Francisco earthquake, that's where Joe DiMaggio lived, cops found him walking around the city in a daze with a suitcase full of $600,000 in cash.
So it was all from baseball card signings and shit.
joe rogan
Wow.
How weird.
Was he just getting crazy as he got older?
artie lange
He was starting to lose it.
He was starting to lose it.
joe rogan
Marilyn Monroe pussy was that strong.
artie lange
I bet it was.
Sounds like her and Rita Hayworth had magical fucking twats.
joe rogan
Broke a man!
Like apparently to his growth.
He used to leave flowers on her grave.
artie lange
Yeah.
And Sinatraa and Ava Gardner.
unidentified
Yeah.
Some chicks know how to slang it.
artie lange
Richard Price is a...
I don't know why business is always complaining.
They got half the money and all the pussy.
What the fuck?
Could it be a more truer statement made about life?
joe rogan
Yeah, and there's some women that just have their currency, like their social currency, is worth just so much more than you can ever afford.
artie lange
I know.
joe rogan
She's so happy to just be with them.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And I think Marilyn Monroe was just so powerful.
artie lange
She was.
joe rogan
Trying to hold on to a tornado or something.
Good luck keeping her wife.
artie lange
Well, that's exactly what they were trying to do.
Yeah, because it drives you crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, who's the other guy?
Was it Ginsberg?
Who did she live with as well?
artie lange
Arthur Miller.
joe rogan
Arthur Miller.
artie lange
And Artie Shaw.
joe rogan
Yeah.
artie lange
Three, I guess.
Yeah, I'm a film historian.
joe rogan
Are you really?
artie lange
I'm an historian in a lot of ways, especially in sports.
I'll tell you what, I don't know how I know this, I have no idea how I remember this, but you give me the year between 1949 and the year 2000, so what, 51 years.
I'll give you the two teams who were in the World Series and who won.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
artie lange
I don't know why I know it.
If you want to do a couple, I'll do it and then we'll get out of there.
joe rogan
I wouldn't even know.
artie lange
Does anyone know who won a World Series?
joe rogan
These two guys, they don't fucking pay attention to sports.
artie lange
What am I, on The View?
You don't know any World Series title?
joe rogan
I literally have no idea who won this year.
I don't know who's the World Series champion this year.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I don't know who won last year.
artie lange
Really?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I really don't know.
I know.
It sounds ridiculous.
artie lange
No, it doesn't, I guess, if you don't like baseball.
You like football, right?
joe rogan
I don't even watch football.
artie lange
You just watch that MMA shit.
joe rogan
I watch kickboxing.
artie lange
What is that?
joe rogan
I watch jujitsu.
artie lange
What's the difference?
joe rogan
I watch MMA. I watch those things.
unidentified
It's all the same shit.
joe rogan
And I watch boxing.
And that's all I pay attention to.
artie lange
Boxing, I love.
Mayweather and Pacquiao.
What do you think?
joe rogan
I think Mayweather is a very clever man.
Very clever man.
And setting the fight now is a good time.
It's a very good time.
artie lange
I think so financially, too.
joe rogan
It's a good time financially, but it's also a good time for him as far as success-wise.
Manny Pacquiao was extremely dangerous just a few years ago, maybe even more so than he is now.
artie lange
He lost some steps, though.
joe rogan
There's a thought, and it may not be correct, because his last fight against Brandon Rios, he looked really fucking good, and then Chris Algieri, he looked really fucking good.
I mean, he looks good, dude.
He's a beast.
Manny Pacquiao is a beast.
artie lange
I know, I understand that.
I've seen him try it.
joe rogan
But the thought is, the Marquez knockout, when Manuel Marquez knocked him out, knocked him out dead, cold, one right hand, bam.
And the thought is, when a guy gets turned off like that, like maybe there's a little something that he lost.
Maybe there's a little step.
It's not always correct.
Sometimes guys bounce back from a knockout and they're fine.
It totally varies on the individual.
artie lange
But not a lot of boxers.
Ollie always says after Frazier hit him with that first left in the first fight, he was more apprehensive than he ever was in his life.
He said it cost him the fight against Spinks and Foreman because all he saw was that fucking left hook.
joe rogan
He beat Foreman, yeah.
artie lange
Boom, man.
It affected the rest of his life.
joe rogan
It was a launching left hook, too.
Joe Frazier would throw himself.
artie lange
Feet were off the ground, man.
joe rogan
Did you ever watch the fight between George Foreman and Joe Frazier?
artie lange
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
That's insane.
artie lange
I like Frazier, too, but it's classic Howard Cosell.
joe rogan
Foreman was just something different back then, man.
He was just something different.
He was hitting guys like 20%, 30% harder than anybody ever seen.
artie lange
Fight night back in the 70s was fun, man.
I can remember being a kid really getting like, wow, this is going to be fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember watching those ABC Wide World of Sports.
Alexis Arguello would fight.
artie lange
Arguello Pryor?
Remember the two Arguello Pryor fights?
joe rogan
Yeah, incredible.
artie lange
The one they thought Pryor's fucking manager put schnapps in to get him going.
joe rogan
Well, they thought it was Coke.
artie lange
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
That's what your thought was.
artie lange
But then he said it was liquor, maybe.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense.
More likely it was Coke.
artie lange
If someone gave me a bunch of peppermint schnapps, I would not want to fight, no.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, I don't think you could just drink.
Tell me if I'm wrong.
I don't think you could just drink Coke.
Like, if someone puts cocaine in a glass and mixes it with water.
brian redban
There's the liquid Coke that you shoot in your nose.
joe rogan
Dude, can you just drink it?
brian redban
Yeah, I'm sure you could.
artie lange
Dude, pick up Stevie Ray Vaughan's book.
joe rogan
About drinking coke?
artie lange
Yeah.
For about two years, he woke up every morning and dissolved cocaine into a glass of Jack Daniels and drank it like Rocky drank the eggs.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Yeah, because the nummies, when you're done with doing the line, you always put the nummy on your tongue or on your teeth.
It makes your whole mouth numb, so drinking it must make your whole body numb.
artie lange
And especially in whiskey, so it's an upper and a downer, you know.
joe rogan
Wow.
artie lange
It's basically a living hell.
joe rogan
Well, he was just apparently, I mean, Richard, or Aaron Pryor, rather, later in his career, he had a real problem with drugs and a real problem with cocaine.
And so it's very likely that he might have had that problem even while he was like an elite athlete.
And if you gave him just a little bit in the corner, like, there's no drug test.
artie lange
But those fights, I'll give you another fight as a boxing fan.
I ran Barkley and Duran.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
artie lange
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Roberto Duran showed that even though he was in his 30s at the time, I remember Barkley was bigger, stronger.
I remember Barkley had knocked out Tommy Hearns.
Did he knock out Hearns before that or after that?
artie lange
Before.
Before.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember Barkley was terrifying.
And Roberto Duran boxed his face off.
The same way he did to Davey Moore.
artie lange
Yeah, exactly.
I just wish he would have done it to Leonard.
I guess maybe he couldn't find them, whatever.
Go grab him and just beat him up.
joe rogan
Who knows what happened, man, that second fight.
artie lange
Frank Sinatra got paid.
That's what happened.
joe rogan
It could be that.
A lot of people thought that he was paid to take a dive, that Duran took a dive.
A lot of people thought that Duran just didn't train and just partied like a fucking wild animal after he beat Leonard the first time.
artie lange
Duran, he was one of those guys who won $4 million in a fight, and then two months later, after a bunch of booze and cocaine and new shoes, he needs to fight again.
He gets these big white gold shoes, and he gets heavy, and then he needs to box again.
joe rogan
He's a classic story, man.
He's a classic story.
artie lange
I love Roberto Duran.
joe rogan
He's one of my all-time favorites.
Joey Diaz got me his book many, many years ago, because we would always sit around and talk about Roberto Duran.
artie lange
Right.
joe rogan
Joey's a huge Roberto Duran fan, so he gave me his book.
It's amazing.
The guy had an incredible life.
artie lange
I'm sure he did.
A lot of boxers, if you think about it, probably have.
You know, they're brought up nuts, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard to be at the highest level without being a little nuts.
artie lange
Yeah, you've got to nurture the physicality and then the anger, and then before you know it, you've got a pit bull that attacks your neighbor.
unidentified
Yeah.
artie lange
That's what you want.
joe rogan
I was watching a video of Mike Tyson from 87, training with Kevin Rooney, and they were hitting mitts.
You see young Mike Tyson who was like, I don't think he was like 20 or something at the time.
I don't know how old he was, but he was just fucking these mitts up.
Just move so fast for a heavyweight and all that bomb it and weave and shit that he used to do.
Like he bombed and weaved after every combination.
Every combination he would throw in the pads.
artie lange
He'd go down, he was short and they'd miss him, yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, but even in the pads, like that's how he did it when he was working the pads.
He just was constantly in motion.
artie lange
Something else.
Yeah, mental.
A mental thing happened.
That's what I think.
Emotionally, you gotta stay tough a long time, man.
Even Ali went, but he lasted long enough.
But Tyson, you know, a couple years, and then he went crazy.
And I don't blame him for...
I'm not saying...
I don't blame the guy for going crazy.
I mean, look at the men who live in that Kardashian house.
They all eventually go nuts.
That's atmosphere.
Like, Lamar Odom starts smoking crack, and, you know, of course, Bruce Jenner has a pussy, you know.
Well, he's getting one.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's...
artie lange
It's really difficult to believe.
joe rogan
Well, to be at the level that a Mike Tyson was at his point in life at a really young age, 20-year-old champion of the world, you know, he's out there doing whatever he wants to do, basically, buying Bentleys, crashing them, giving them to cops.
I mean, he was just off the chain, crazy.
He owned a lion.
I mean, he was as crazy as you can get.
You can't get any crazier, and you can't keep that up.
That's not a sustainable life.
artie lange
No, listen, I don't live a sustainable life, so much less that.
I've decided that something's got to change.
I mean, I'm pushing 50. What's got to change?
unidentified
I don't know.
artie lange
Career on the U.S. pool circuit?
Certainly not the career.
That's the only thing that makes me money.
I'd love to shoot pool, but I'm not that good.
joe rogan
Let's make it happen.
You just train.
That's the show.
That's the reality show.
Marty Lang joins the pro tour.
artie lange
Joe, we've known each other a long time.
I've got to stop.
I've got to stop.
I'll have a party or something.
joe rogan
You're going to have a party and stop what?
artie lange
Working.
joe rogan
Just done.
artie lange
Yeah.
I'm just going to buy a huge chair and eat myself until I fit into it.
I don't know.
I got road coming up.
You like doing the road still?
joe rogan
I like doing the road because I go with my friends.
I bring comics that I like to open for me and we have fun.
artie lange
How many guys you bring?
joe rogan
Depends.
Sometimes two, sometimes one.
I like going on the road with a friend.
artie lange
See, I've tried that.
I've tried bringing friends of mine to open for me and I'm still miserable.
joe rogan
Really?
artie lange
Yeah, I don't know.
Mostly because I don't like them in my room.
joe rogan
Oh.
artie lange
Or the dressing room.
I like a lot of them, but it doesn't get me over the...
Multiple shows in one night where you gotta reboot and then get back up.
joe rogan
The multiple shows are tricky if you freeball your material a lot because you get to that second show and you're like, I'm not exactly sure if I did this this show or last show.
artie lange
I'm almost gonna tape it.
Oh no, that's happened a bunch of times when I repeat a joke.
Holy shit.
I was drunk once in Pittsburgh.
It's like midnight.
There's a 400 pound guy sitting in the corner and I start to tell the same joke I told about 20 minutes before.
The 400 pound guy's got like khaki shorts on.
He's got his hands closed like this.
And as I start the joke, he just goes, did it!
He just said, did it!
With a real, real mad look on his face.
And it stopped me and I said, oh, thank you.
I appreciate you coming to rehearsal.
They get hostile.
All right, man, I'm not trying to fuck with you.
I made a mistake.
joe rogan
Some people just demand perfection.
artie lange
Yeah.
Well, this guy didn't look like one of them.
joe rogan
You get very angry if there's any mistakes going on.
Live performance by an intoxicated man who you love.
Well.
unidentified
You know?
joe rogan
Guy comes all the way to see you.
He's got to fucking treat you like that.
unidentified
How dare he?
artie lange
He lived across the street.
He looked like David Beckham.
joe rogan
Was he beautiful?
artie lange
Do you think it's gay that I feel Chad Ochocinco is David Beckham dipped in fudge?
joe rogan
First of all, I think it's a huge insult to Chad Ochocinco.
artie lange
Really?
joe rogan
You like him?
artie lange
You like him?
Well, he's just way more of an athlete.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, if you looked at both of them naked, you would definitely be able to tell if it was in black and white who's who.
They're both the same color.
Chad Ochocinco is a different kind of athlete.
artie lange
I guess so.
joe rogan
That guy's a fucking freak athlete.
artie lange
Yeah, but he's fucking up.
He's not around.
He's not doing his thing.
joe rogan
It's hard to keep that going.
Like we talked about earlier.
unidentified
It's hard.
joe rogan
We're talking about him so we know who he is.
If we know who he is, a lot of people know who he is.
Which means he probably, at least for a short period of time, he got a fuckload of money.
And before that, probably didn't have any money.
artie lange
See, I don't think you're giving his problems enough merit.
I mean, I agree with everything, but the man did change his name to Ocho Cinco.
It's 85 in Spanish.
If you're normal, you don't do that.
joe rogan
But we are talking about him.
artie lange
Yeah, sure.
I mean, we can talk about Hitler, too.
What's the criteria?
What do you want to talk about?
joe rogan
No, but I think for those guys, is what I'm saying.
To those guys, it's important to get your name out there.
artie lange
For football players, movie stars, whatever, you know.
joe rogan
I think that's a good move, to call yourself Ocho Cinco.
I mean, otherwise, I don't follow sports, so I really wouldn't know.
artie lange
Well, I don't have a jersey number, so I'm going to change my last name to my cholesterol level in Spanish, which is, of course, Arti Cuatro Dos Ocho.
That's going to get on you a lot of pussy.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
artie lange
What else have you been up to?
You just do this on the road?
joe rogan
Basically, in the UFC. Oh, and what's your UFC schedule?
artie lange
You're like so busy.
joe rogan
I'm pretty busy, but it's all stuff I like doing, so it doesn't bother me.
This weekend is at the Staples Center.
artie lange
And you do every match?
joe rogan
No, I don't do every one.
There's a lot that I don't do.
There's a lot that are like...
The Fox Sports Night ones, most of those I don't do.
Some of them I do do, but what we're doing recently is we have a bunch of guys in here and we watch the fights and do a podcast, a live podcast while we're watching the fights.
That's really fun.
artie lange
I did that with the Super Bowl because I had a $30,000 bet on it and it was kind of weird to see what happened.
I won five grand.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, son.
artie lange
I lost on the fucking coin toss, two grand.
joe rogan
Did you really?
artie lange
Immediately.
joe rogan
You had a $2,000 coin toss?
artie lange
I was down two grand before the game started.
unidentified
Terrible.
artie lange
But I ended up up five Gs.
I had the Patriots and had the Patriots and the over.
joe rogan
Dude, you like gambling.
That's one thing I can tell.
As soon as we moved to gambling tonight, it was Brian Regan wanted to hustle us.
We had to play a $20 game and nine ball play.
artie lange
I ended up walking away with a double serve.
Two fives of mine.
joe rogan
And he got out like four or five balls in a row.
Not an easy out.
You got out.
We played one game and already cleaned it up.
artie lange
No, we didn't.
You won the first.
You didn't bet on the first two.
You won.
joe rogan
Well, we were just playing, and then Regan wanted to hustle us.
I thought he was going to pull out the real game.
artie lange
Yeah, Regan looks like maybe he grew up in one of those Irish neighbors.
You want to play, matey?
How's your better pool game, matey?
joe rogan
All of a sudden, he's a fucking pirate.
That's hilarious.
artie lange
I was trying to do Charles Dickens.
unidentified
Oh, I got confused.
joe rogan
I never know what that guy sounded like.
artie lange
Me too.
Now, that was a fun time.
joe rogan
Are you enjoying doing podcasting now?
artie lange
No.
joe rogan
Why don't you like it?
artie lange
Listen, I'm not an ambitious guy.
My point is, like, you know, the Rob Lowe, like the Artie Lang?
I'm more like the stop caring Rob Lowe, you know?
I'm that guy, like, in the contract.
joe rogan
Oh, right, that commercial with the caveman Rob Lowe?
artie lange
Yeah, I'm the other guy.
So, you know, the podcast, I mean, I do it in my kitchen.
I've been late eight times.
joe rogan
But what don't you like about it?
You're so good on the radio.
artie lange
I like being on the radio.
I like talking like this and saying stuff on the radio.
joe rogan
You don't like organizing it and doing anything yourself?
artie lange
No, I just let everybody else do it, but then eventually I need something done properly.
It's a mess, man.
joe rogan
That just seems like a logistics thing.
That seems like that could be handled.
Look, you're a really fucking funny guy.
For you to not have a podcast This would be ridiculous.
You know, you've been in a couple, there's a couple problems that you've had over the last few months about tweets and shit like that.
artie lange
Right.
joe rogan
We read those tweets off and we were fucking howling.
Oh, thank you, man.
We didn't think there was anything wrong with it.
I got on Twitter, I said, look, this is hilarious.
Do you think he really means what he's saying?
artie lange
Of course, that's why they're so stupid.
joe rogan
It's so stupid.
artie lange
These are jokes.
You know, it really is gross.
joe rogan
And either one of those things you said was mean-spirited.
It was funny shit.
It was funny, self-deprecating.
artie lange
And in the one where I'm Thomas Jefferson and the black girl Carrie Champion is the slave, where Carrie Champion is my slave and I'm her master, I point out that I do not ejaculate until she escapes.
joe rogan
You're saying that you would have her beat you and you'd come all over yourself?
What did you say?
artie lange
I'll go one further.
I'm saying when I see an African-American woman get her freedom and break free from the chains, I just blow a load all over the planet.
joe rogan
Oh, so you have to see the freedom happen in order for you to come.
unidentified
So you're a freedom justice warrior.
artie lange
Let jism ring.
joe rogan
Oh, how dare you.
See, I don't think there's anything wrong with you being incredibly excited and sexually aroused at a woman achieving freedom.
I think that we should all be.
artie lange
Nothing wrong with that.
joe rogan
Do you think you're capable of coming equally for a man achieving freedom?
Or maybe a gay man?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Or a transgender man?
artie lange
I don't think I could come for a man.
joe rogan
You've got to come across the board and everybody will be happy.
Just come when people get free.
artie lange
I don't think I could come for a man.
I really don't.
I don't think it's possible.
Man getting free.
joe rogan
Man getting free.
artie lange
Oh, a man getting free.
joe rogan
Yeah, a man getting free, like the same way of a slave male.
artie lange
I'd be more happy about it.
I'd just be clapping.
joe rogan
But it's just, look, yeah, it's a controversy.
Of course, that's what comedy's about, you know, and I, look, I know you're trying to be funny.
It's funny.
It's what it is.
It's not like you're some fucking politician that says some nutty shit that nobody expected out of nowhere off camera, and you catch him like this is his real beliefs.
Like, whoa, we just found out that Artie loves slaves.
Like, no, you're a fucking comic.
artie lange
Yeah, exactly.
I'd get a slave in my house.
joe rogan
It made me angry.
artie lange
And it made me angry.
Very angry.
It was terrible.
joe rogan
It's just so silly.
artie lange
It cost me something.
It cost me an appearance on a talk show, which I didn't care about.
But still, they took something from me.
And that's when they're happy.
We got it from you.
Boom.
Now go fuck off.
We win.
joe rogan
But they don't.
They don't.
unidentified
I hope not.
artie lange
We'll see what happens.
joe rogan
You've got a lot of people on your side with that.
You've got a lot of people who enjoy that kind of comedy.
I always talk about Brian Holtzman.
unidentified
He says ridiculous, cruel shit.
joe rogan
But I think it's hilarious because I know him.
He's a sweetheart of a guy.
But he used to do this joke about Susan Smith.
Remember the chick who drowned her kids?
He goes...
I heard those kids were bad.
I heard they sat that close to the TV. They never put away their blocks.
Those kids will not be missed.
You've got to see him doing it to understand.
You can't take it out of context.
You've got to see his whole act.
It's ridiculous.
He says a bunch of really...
And then he laughs at himself.
He's being funny, and it's an art form.
Just like a violent movies in art form.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You're not really killing people.
artie lange
Well, just to prove your point, I went to Match.com after I broke up.
They gave you a form thing you have to fill out.
And you have to be honest in the questions.
I can never be honest in those questions.
I got a girl who looks like she's an ISIS if I did that.
So I... I got to the part where I said, what's the worst thing you've ever done?
And I actually put that down to see what kind of reaction I got.
One time I had sex with a retarded girl, and to get rid of her, I put her on a bus.
joe rogan
How did that work?
artie lange
Well, I don't know.
I haven't seen her since.
joe rogan
No, I mean, it's for Match.com.
Did you put that on?
artie lange
I didn't get the date.
So, you know, I'm not even going to get into that either.
joe rogan
That's shocking.
I bet you people didn't think it was really you.
I bet they didn't want to get catfished.
artie lange
Who would they think it is?
joe rogan
Someone pretending to be you, just writing retarded shit.
They probably didn't think it was you.
That's the only reason why it didn't work.
Now that people know it's you, check that page later.
artie lange
I don't have time.
joe rogan
So, you like doing this?
You just don't like the hassle that comes with, like, organizing it?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
artie lange
I'm not an organizer.
I'm not a preparer.
I'm not a preparer.
joe rogan
So you just want to show up and be Artie Lang?
artie lange
Yeah, they're letting me do that, pretty much, but, you know, who cares about that?
People gotta start listening, otherwise they'll just do something else.
Thank God I got my stand-up, and, you know...
joe rogan
Well, you don't think people listen to your podcast?
Like, what do you mean?
artie lange
Well, I mean, there's not a ton of people listening to it, no.
joe rogan
Well...
You're doing this subscription-based thing, right?
artie lange
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
artie lange
But I can't get sponsors.
I called people.
joe rogan
What do you mean you can't get sponsors?
artie lange
Oh, because I said a couple of things.
joe rogan
Listen.
Just say you're sorry.
Say you're sorry, Uncle Hardy.
artie lange
I refuse!
joe rogan
Whoa, Jesus.
I think you can get sponsors.
I don't think there's a fucking question in the world that you could get sponsors.
artie lange
The only offer I had was sphincterine, the ass mental.
joe rogan
It's an ass mint?
artie lange
Yeah, you put it in your ass before someone eats it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, that might kill people.
You gotta be careful about that.
That stuff, that's like give you toxic shock of the asshole or something.
artie lange
Would you like them?
I don't know.
Listen, I appreciate it, buddy.
You're a good man.
You're a good friend.
I've just given up.
joe rogan
Don't give up.
artie lange
I mean, I'm not giving up.
I just don't care.
Look at me.
This is what I look like.
I don't care.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you do care enough.
You care enough to be funny.
You care enough to make those funny tweets.
artie lange
No, I gotta keep...
joe rogan
Don't make me, you son of a bitch.
artie lange
No, I gotta make money for my mother!
joe rogan
Is that what you're doing?
artie lange
Yeah!
My mother, she'll be on welfare if it wasn't for me.
This is crazy.
I gotta get out of this.
joe rogan
Wow.
artie lange
Not this.
I'll stay here.
joe rogan
You mean comedy.
artie lange
Something, man.
joe rogan
You mean doing comedy or podcasting?
artie lange
I could do podcasting.
You know, I don't know.
joe rogan
You could do podcasting.
I do it.
But you keep going.
artie lange
Yeah.
joe rogan
If someone sets it up for you and makes it nice.
unidentified
I don't know.
artie lange
I have it set up, but it's not in a studio.
joe rogan
I think what a lot of people are doing wrong is they're trying to get paid from podcasting right off the bat.
I think it's kind of hard to do that.
I know Anthony's been pretty successful, Anthony Cumia.
He's got a very, very devoted following already on his...
He had that video podcast set up.
artie lange
Right.
joe rogan
Before we ever did it, that's one of the reasons why I wanted to do this.
Anthony has a fucking full studio in his basement with a green screen.
artie lange
Wow!
joe rogan
He's had that since, like, 2006 or something fucking crazy like that.
He's always experimented online.
I mean, he's just kind of a tech genius.
artie lange
Right, right, right.
See, I'm not, though.
joe rogan
So he built up this following, and then he started having people do subscriptions when he left Opie and Anthony.
But I think that if you start off, look, I've listened to some of your podcasts.
They're hilarious.
You're a funny fucking dude, man, always.
artie lange
Thank you.
joe rogan
You're always funny.
I even enjoyed you on that Nick DiPaolo show where you couldn't swear.
artie lange
No, that was fun.
It was fun working with Nick.
You know, we'll see what happens.
I'm tired.
I've been through a lot of shit.
joe rogan
We need to pump you up.
We need to get you in shape, my friend.
Orange juice, fresh squeezed, celery, kale.
brian redban
Are you ticklish?
artie lange
I tried a Nutribullet.
I put all that kale and onion rings and stuff in it.
Every time I took a dump, it sounded like James Caan getting shot in the Godfather.
And that includes the kick at the end.
Oh, that's hilarious.
I'll figure it out, man.
I'll let you know.
joe rogan
You'll be fine.
What do you want to do, Tom?
artie lange
What are we going to do?
Go bike riding a mark?
joe rogan
No, you don't have to do that.
You don't have to go bike riding.
artie lange
Well, what do you want to do?
joe rogan
It's just you need to take it slow.
artie lange
I like talking to you and hanging, but I don't want to do like an elliptical machine with you.
joe rogan
Well, you know what you need to do?
You just need to get motivated.
If you're not in a relationship, that's what you need is a super hot personal trainer to motivate you.
artie lange
You got some of those numbers?
joe rogan
Oh, they're all over Los Angeles.
artie lange
Well, then give me a couple!
joe rogan
I don't know any.
I'll find some for you online.
We'll find some.
We're going to use the power of the internet to find Artie Lang, a beautiful fitness trainer, who's going to motivate him.
To get in shape, you're just going to see her just glistening in the sun telling you, come on, Artie, up the hill.
artie lange
Can I pick what color?
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
You want a black check or a white check?
Chinese?
artie lange
I'd like a nice...
joe rogan
Taiwan.
artie lange
I'd like a nice mocha mulatto type.
joe rogan
I don't think you're allowed to say mulatto anymore.
I think they took that from us.
artie lange
Well, I'm going to win the mulatto right now.
joe rogan
See, this is why you should do a podcast.
unidentified
How could you not?
joe rogan
How could you not do a podcast?
artie lange
It's a blast.
You know what?
I'm going to text you about this.
I need some advice.
In a couple minutes of your time, I need some advice.
joe rogan
I think we could get you a 10-time increase in how many people are listening to it right now.
artie lange
Well, no, it's not even about that.
It's not about my health.
joe rogan
Oh, your health, too.
artie lange
There are a lot of people listening.
Thank God I need more, but my health is what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
Well, it's, you know, it's real simple.
I mean, It's not simple psychologically, and it's not simple emotionally.
That's the hard part.
But it's real simple.
Eat really healthy foods, your body will get leaner, you'll lose weight.
It's really that simple.
That should be all you need.
artie lange
So how the fuck am I gonna do that?
joe rogan
It's hard to do.
unidentified
It's hard to do.
artie lange
It's hard to avoid.
joe rogan
You came in with a cheeseburger.
artie lange
I do.
Did I? Yeah.
joe rogan
You came in with a cheeseburger.
You were joking about it being gluten-free.
There's something wrong with that.
I eat them all the time, man.
I eat cheeseburgers all the time.
I eat two of them the other day.
I was at a fucking food truck in Portland, and it was so good.
I had a Thai bacon cheeseburger.
God damn, it was good.
artie lange
That sounds unbelievable.
joe rogan
Oh, it was insane.
It had grilled jalapenos in it, and that peanut Thai sauce, like satay sauce, whatever it is.
artie lange
That sounds fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Shit it was so good.
I had to go back and have another one is a place called the brunch box in Portland was a little food trucks Get it and they give it to us for free.
We wouldn't even take our money.
artie lange
So Good for you my man.
There's nothing like good street food God damn.
It was good.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with a little bit of that every now and then But what you need to do is just figure out a way to discipline yourself, but I don't see that happening Of course, it's a long shot, but I'd like your support.
artie lange
It's a long shot, and I'll just accept you as putting one down, like, yeah, I think Artie's gonna do it.
joe rogan
You could definitely do it.
artie lange
Well, before you were being sarcastic.
joe rogan
No, you could do it, but you keep saying, like, ah, what am I gonna do?
How's that gonna happen?
Like, you gotta, like, decide that you're gonna make some sort of a gigantic change, but that's fucking very difficult to do.
You know they say one day at a time?
That's really bullshit.
Because it's every 10 seconds at a time.
artie lange
Well, you're right.
joe rogan
That's the reality.
artie lange
The timing, too, of what I've had to stop in the last six months is literally, it's not a short list.
It's booze, it's heroin, it's coke, it's pills, it's sugar, it's gluten, it's shakes, don't have a cherry.
If you have an orange, peel it this way.
And if you drink water, only drink it cold.
All right.
How the fuck am I going to live?
Everything I know to do, I can't do anymore.
joe rogan
How much of the life pleasure that you get out of life revolves around food?
artie lange
It's just below the heroin pleasure.
unidentified
Wow!
artie lange
Now food is a sensuous thing, man.
It's a sensuous thing.
joe rogan
It is.
artie lange
And it's very difficult.
Very difficult to get off of that.
joe rogan
Especially really good food.
artie lange
I love a nice meal.
joe rogan
Oh, who doesn't?
Who doesn't?
But what you can do, if you really want to restructure the way the whole thing works, is just earn those meals.
And it means even more when you get them.
artie lange
I do.
I go to work, I make money, and I pay for them.
unidentified
Yeah, of course you do.
joe rogan
But I mean, earn them psychologically by trying to take care of your body, those other meals.
artie lange
Reward myself.
joe rogan
Yeah, like give yourself like five, six days of eating good.
One day you're allowed to go off like a rocket.
One day where it's just fucking linguine with white sauce and fucking lasagna and steaks and milkshakes and whatever the fuck you want.
One day.
But all the other days, really healthy, like real foods.
artie lange
There's six days healthy, one not.
joe rogan
Yeah, six days, one healthy, one not.
If you just did that, you'd have a radical change.
And cut out soda.
If you're going to have to drink soda, if you really have to, it sounds gross because diet soda has aspartame, which probably gives you brain cancer.
But it will definitely be better.
artie lange
This story gets better and better.
joe rogan
It will definitely be better and allegedly gives you brain cancer.
artie lange
Well, I appreciate that joke.
I'm going to try.
Believe me, you think I'm bullshit.
I'm going to try to live like that.
I have to.
I have to, otherwise I'm not going to be around.
joe rogan
Yeah, listen, you're too talented to let slip away.
What we need is just someone to come along, some professional to come along and deal with that aspect of your life.
You know who did it?
Kevin James.
Kevin James hired a professional chef and some sort of Whole Foods.
This woman, she specialized in green vegetable shakes and this crazy diet.
I forget what the diet was.
But she was like, Kevin hired her.
And this woman would cook for him every day.
She would cook all these really lean, vegetable-based diets.
This fucking dude lost 70 pounds.
He's where I got the kale shakes idea from.
artie lange
When he hired her, he was what, year six of King of Queens?
joe rogan
I think he had retired.
artie lange
So someone loaning me this money to hire the queen of vegetables?
joe rogan
He's just rolling in cash like this year.
He's just got his arms open and just rolls around his bed.
artie lange
That's right, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, he has like a shoot he pulls on the top of his bed and money comes out of the ceiling.
And he bathes in it.
Like that scene, Indecent Proposal with Demi Moore and the cash on the bed.
artie lange
That's me.
brian redban
My friend Chef Elise Lane from Kill Tony, Russell Peters just hired her because he gained a bunch of weight, and all she does is cook him healthy meals so he has it in his house.
So when he gets hungry, he's like, I'm going to go to McDonald's.
He goes, oh wait, here's a healthy meal that's already made.
artie lange
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you could get someone to do that in Hoboken, I bet you would be able to get someone to do that just based on your podcast and based on the results they think they can get you, how much good that would do them in advertising.
artie lange
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, could you imagine?
artie lange
Well, we can't do anything.
joe rogan
I mean, if you just paid for the food and, you know, their services, like they donate their services so that you can promote them.
unidentified
Yeah.
artie lange
Well, Hoboken's closed this year because it's Sinatra's 100th birthday.
You can't do anything in town.
joe rogan
Really?
artie lange
Yes, I got to go somewhere else.
unidentified
Wow.
artie lange
The whole place closed down.
unidentified
That's incredible.
artie lange
They just play Sinatra songs.
unidentified
Really?
artie lange
From how long?
unidentified
Up until December, 2050. So the whole year they play Sinatra songs?
artie lange
Pretty much every other night, but then the week he dies, it's going to be insane.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
artie lange
I can't believe it's real.
Zapplers, you know, pepperoni, schooncheel, supersad, gabagool, fresh mozzarella, wet mozzarella, roasted peppers.
joe rogan
Fuck the singing.
You go right into the food.
Look at you.
artie lange
I'll go to the gym first.
joe rogan
I love Frank Sinatra.
I had a dog named Frank Sinatra.
artie lange
Did you really?
You gotta like Francis.
You gotta like the chairman of the board.
joe rogan
Yeah, I loved his songs, especially when I was younger.
But I didn't know that they had that much of a following for him.
artie lange
You didn't know Sinatra had a following?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I mean, like, where they would have, like, a whole year of nothing but Frank Sinatra in the town.
artie lange
Oh, no, especially in Hobo.
I mean, it's crazy.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
I mean, it makes sense.
That's where he came from.
artie lange
You know, you'll appreciate this, Joe.
Somebody on 60 Minutes or some of the talk show was talking to him in the mid-70s, right?
And the interviewer said to Sinatra, Frank, how do you feel when you hear that criminals like Charles Manson say, if they ever break out of prison, they're going to kill people like you, Shirley MacLaine, Dean Martin.
What do you say to that?
And without missing a beat, Sinatra looked at the guy and said, let him out.
He just said, let him out and said nothing.
And the guy got scared.
He went, all right, let him out.
Basically, let him out.
joe rogan
I'll kill him.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He wasn't bullshitting either.
artie lange
I don't think so.
I mean, I wouldn't find that out.
joe rogan
You know how many people Sinatra must have known?
I mean, he was the god of the Italian world.
artie lange
I live around a block from where he grew up.
joe rogan
Really?
artie lange
It's nuts.
joe rogan
Who's got his house?
artie lange
Who owns his house?
Well, it's an empty lot.
joe rogan
Of course, out of respect.
artie lange
It's a social club right next to it that they play poker at.
unidentified
Wow.
artie lange
I lost $38,000 every one night.
joe rogan
Are you not allowed to talk about this on the air, like where they play?
artie lange
That was years ago.
joe rogan
Oh, they're not there anymore?
artie lange
No.
And there's no cop that's going to tell them to stop.
joe rogan
That's just that spot.
artie lange
Not that spot, yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
You like Hoboken?
artie lange
Love it.
joe rogan
You got a beautiful view, right?
artie lange
I got a view.
I look at the whole city, yeah.
joe rogan
The view of the city from outside the city is actually better than the view inside the city.
unidentified
I agree.
artie lange
I agree.
It's good to look at the city but not be in it.
joe rogan
I have a friend who lives in Brooklyn, and he's got a high floor, like he's on the 10th or 11th floor, and it's above the river, just looking out across, and you see the bridge to the right.
It looks framed.
It doesn't even look real.
artie lange
Really?
joe rogan
You look out his window, you're like, dude, your view isn't even real.
artie lange
That's the kind of view I have.
I got lucky.
I have the single best view of Manhattan from the Hudson River side.
It's like a painting.
joe rogan
To me, there's like three great views in the world.
There's a lot.
But there's three archetypes.
One of them is the nature view.
Like mountains to me are number one with that.
Like mountains and a lake.
You see those two of them together.
That to me is like the most spectacular thing to look at.
But the other two are two different types of city views.
There's the New York one from across the river.
When you're looking at it and you realize, like, wow, this is an amazing place.
Like, look at the size of this hub of life and humanity.
But the weirdest one is above Doheny.
A lot of people don't even know about this one.
You go into Hollywood, you go into the hills above Doheny, and you're looking down over the city.
And when you're looking down over the city, it looks like Blade Runner.
artie lange
I know what you're talking about, yeah.
joe rogan
It doesn't look real.
artie lange
I do, though, the Doheny one.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
artie lange
It's nuts.
joe rogan
My friend Larry used to have a house up there, and it didn't look real.
Like, you would look out of his yard, you'd go, oh, Larry.
You're such a baller.
artie lange
Yeah, and it's scary.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Scary and, like, alien.
Like, you're looking down at a spaceship.
Like, it doesn't look like any other view I've ever seen.
I've taken photos of it when you're flying in.
You kind of sort of get it.
But you don't get it like you get it when you're looking out at someone's back porch.
Because he had, like, one of those infinity pools.
And, like, you would sit, like, by the pool and you'd look out off the balcony.
You're like, oh, my God.
Look at this fucking view.
This is insane.
He's, like, living in a science fiction movie.
artie lange
Yeah, but that helps you get up in the morning.
It's like, wow, just go into nature.
You can't be in a bad mood.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like art, right?
It's like you're looking at natural art.
artie lange
Yeah, like me, I look outside, I have Route 3 and Sea Caucus, which is...
There's usually snow trouble.
Snow trouble.
You look at that atmosphere, forget it.
You can't be in a bad mood.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you can, but you're silly.
artie lange
Yeah.
I avoid it.
And that's saying a lot.
joe rogan
You avoid nature?
artie lange
No bad moods.
joe rogan
Oh.
Do you see yourself becoming a man in the woods someday?
artie lange
No.
joe rogan
Just packing up?
artie lange
I would just lay down.
joe rogan
Just lay down.
artie lange
I would lay down.
I would go, listen, I'm just going to wait to erode.
joe rogan
I see a theme here.
artie lange
There's nothing I offer.
joe rogan
You need to be motivated because you're obviously very, very funny.
artie lange
I'm motivated.
I get up.
I go through comedy.
I travel.
I get up.
I get a check.
I come back.
I mean, what the fuck?
I'm not a bump on a log here.
joe rogan
No, you're in action.
artie lange
Thank you.
joe rogan
You look like you're maybe not enjoying some of the action.
But you should be.
artie lange
It's called withdrawals.
Is that what it is?
Maybe a little.
joe rogan
How long does that last for?
artie lange
About 22 days.
joe rogan
Now when you go to a doctor, do you get like your blood work done?
They check out where your vitamin levels are and all that kind of stuff?
artie lange
Sure, sure, sure.
Everything.
Because I'm diabetic too.
joe rogan
So what do you have to do for that?
artie lange
You got to take a pen, boom.
joe rogan
How often do you do that?
artie lange
Takes two seconds.
Once a day.
joe rogan
Is that a recent thing?
artie lange
25 units.
Two years.
joe rogan
Last two years?
artie lange
Last two years, I've had to take the insulin.
Before that, I just had to take the pills.
joe rogan
And is that related to, like, diet?
Is there a way to turn it around?
artie lange
Very much so.
It's very much related.
It's almost hereditary and diet are the two things, yeah.
joe rogan
Damn, dude.
Well, I can see how that would weigh you down.
I can see how that would weigh you down.
That would fuck with you and make you feel like, you know...
artie lange
The pen thing isn't bad.
joe rogan
But, I mean, just the fact that you've got diabetes.
I mean, that's a mindfuck.
artie lange
I'd forgotten about it for a couple of days, but yeah, you're right.
Nah, I'll be alright, man.
joe rogan
I hope you'll be alright.
artie lange
I'll be good.
I'm not going nowhere.
joe rogan
I don't want you to.
artie lange
I know you don't.
joe rogan
I want you to like podcasting, too, because I got excited when you were doing it.
artie lange
I like it a lot.
I like it about as much as I like anything else.
joe rogan
So everything's kind of...
artie lange
Well, where is that coming from?
I didn't say that.
joe rogan
Well, you said you like it as much as anything else, but you said before that you didn't like it.
artie lange
Maybe there's some things that go, hey!
joe rogan
You're just too good at it, man.
You're too funny.
artie lange
You cannot do it.
Do you think it's like a defense mechanism?
joe rogan
I don't know, probably.
I'm pretty good at that.
I'm pretty good at spot-nosed.
artie lange
Listen, if I've noticed nothing else in life, it's that.
unidentified
Yeah.
artie lange
That Joe Rogan is very perceptive when it comes to...
Getting a laser and getting right to the heart of a comedian.
joe rogan
And getting to your ability to play pool.
As soon as you start stroking the ball, I said, look at this motherfucker.
artie lange
You too!
You're a great shooter too!
joe rogan
Yeah, but I have a table here.
artie lange
I'll tell you one thing that is a little impressive about that.
I have not shot pool in eight months.
Easy.
I haven't picked up stick.
joe rogan
Well, it makes sense because it took you a couple shots to get loose.
artie lange
Well, here comes the negativity.
joe rogan
No, it's not negative at all.
artie lange
Well, you said it was great shooting and all of a sudden...
joe rogan
Listen, I suck at first, too.
When Regan and I first played...
artie lange
You didn't, though.
You just kept playing.
joe rogan
You walked in after I'd already won it out.
artie lange
Oh, okay.
Well, that's nice of you to admit.
joe rogan
No, I was knocking ball in the rail.
artie lange
I'm sure.
joe rogan
I couldn't get online.
It takes a while to loosen the arm up, you know?
artie lange
I'm sure.
joe rogan
Especially if you haven't played in eight months.
I haven't played in two days.
artie lange
Yeah.
joe rogan
So there you go.
artie lange
In one week I won 22 G's hustling nine ball.
unidentified
Jesus.
artie lange
Greatest week of my life.
Where was this?
It was a place.
A place.
But I was 19. Oh my God.
Me and my buddy Mike set this other kid up.
Beat him every time.
joe rogan
Oh, so you had a mark.
artie lange
Here's what would happen.
Me and Deidre would pretend we didn't know each other.
We'd get in a game with a third guy.
Okay?
We don't know each other.
We're not friends.
Let's play three-way, whatever.
joe rogan
It's like a movie.
artie lange
20 bucks on a 5, $50 on a 9, okay?
I made sure I went before Deej.
No, Deej made sure he went before me.
So every time Deej would go, he'd miss on purpose, but set me up for a perfect shot.
First on a 5, then on a 9. That's hilarious.
joe rogan
So you guys just kept robbing this one dude.
artie lange
Yeah, we won about 11 games in a row.
joe rogan
Wow.
Poor bastard.
artie lange
I'm not proud of it.
unidentified
Man!
artie lange
Now, the guy seemed like a bit of an asshole, but we thought, my God, we got the greatest fucking system of all time!
And then there was a couple times he would set me up and I'd miss, and he'd look at me like, what the fuck are you doing?
Then one guy, Tommy, I'll never forget this, we call him Red Hair Tommy, because he had, you know, red hair.
And he had like a big, big, curly red hair, and Red Hair Tommy found out what we were doing.
He's supposed to make a guy like, you know what, you motherfuckers know each other?
He got his brother.
His brother came back with a snowblower.
He tried to run us over with a fucking snowblower and pool cues.
He threw me over the table.
But my one buddy's friend was a cop.
And he just flashed the guy's best.
The guy got really scared.
Ah, those days were fun.
joe rogan
When I first started making money, I got a development deal with Disney, and part of the money I used to back my friend Johnny B. My friend Johnny B was like a professional level pool player.
Like a hair off of the pro speed.
artie lange
No kidding.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he could win tournaments.
He would win tournaments.
He could beat a lot of guys.
Like the average person that would play him, he'd beat the average guy.
He couldn't beat like, it's very rare that he'd ever beat like a real top pro, but he'd beat some like lower level pros.
He was a really good pool player, but he was a slick motherfucker.
artie lange
Right.
joe rogan
And I would take them on the road.
We would go all around, like, we would go to Jersey, we would go to West End Billiards, we were talking about that place.
artie lange
I know West End, yeah.
joe rogan
I'd put them in the tournament, we'd see if we could get a game, and then we'd play at Executive Billiards in Chelsea.
Chelsea, which was downtown, which was 24 hours.
artie lange
I know exactly what you're talking about.
joe rogan
You know, Chelsea Billiards?
artie lange
Yeah, sure.
I do, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, so that was my addiction phase.
Like, I was badly, badly addicted.
I was playing eight hours a day for, like, a bunch of years.
artie lange
I went through a good, long phase with Poole, too.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
It's so fun.
It's so fun.
artie lange
It's a blast.
It's a real sort of hand-eye coordination, yet slow.
Like, the best thing about the Hustler is they can play for 18 hours, and Gleason misses a shot, and he just looks over at the shade and says, Would you cut out that light?!
It's kind of depressing, but you're like a dark, easy pang, and then you leave, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, there are guys who do play those kind of long 24, 38-hour gambling sessions, and that shit does happen.
artie lange
I don't know that I have that in me.
unidentified
No.
artie lange
I like a few hours of pool.
joe rogan
Those are brutal.
That's a young man's game, and it's fucking super unhealthy, like to stay up that late, trying to concentrate and drinking coffee.
artie lange
Well, that depends.
See, the great thing about The Hustler is the whole premise was Gleason could shoot no matter how much booze he had.
He handled his booze.
That was his skill.
Where's Paul Newman?
That's George C. Scott.
joe rogan
I don't handle his booze.
artie lange
Picture those three guys in a movie.
How could that be bad?
Could that be bad?
joe rogan
And Piper Laurie, too.
artie lange
Yeah, she was cute back then.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
artie lange
George C. Scott.
You owe me money, Terry!
joe rogan
That's a great fucking movie.
Those places just were so interesting.
That was what I got addicted to.
It's where all the people that didn't follow the rules went.
artie lange
Well, that was Ames Billiards, you know.
That was a legendary place on 14th Street.
That shot closed in the mid-70s.
But Ames was where, you know, Namath played there.
Gleason.
I'd love to have seen that if it stuck around, but they knocked it down.
But Ames was where they shot it.
joe rogan
Do you know at the turn of the century in the 1900s, there was something like a thousand pool halls in New York City?
artie lange
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah, it was a thing to do, man.
Before video and all that shit, you shot a game in the pool.
joe rogan
That's what they did.
I mean, people, it's lost favor.
People don't understand when video games came along and other games of leisure.
artie lange
It's not the same thing, because it's really not, on a lot of levels, human contact.
It's not even indirectly.
At least pool is indirectly.
It's not even close to human contact.
As a matter of fact, it's light years away from it.
joe rogan
You know what the pool players blame it on a lot?
They blame it on casinos, like card casinos opening up.
Because then people who loved to gamble on things, they didn't have to execute.
They're like, if you're playing cards, you have to pick the right cards, you have to make the right choices, but you don't have to physically execute, like stroking the ball and missing a shot.
All that pressure and nerves fucks with some people, so they don't like it.
And they're like, that's what killed the pool game.
artie lange
The pressure and nerves?
joe rogan
Pressure and nerves that people didn't want to face up to.
artie lange
There are a lot of them, though.
There are a lot of them.
joe rogan
Yeah, so, like, attendance in pool halls dropped down, and attendance in these card places, these guys, they didn't have to gamble on pool anymore.
Now they can go play legal cards.
artie lange
And then, of course, that cuts into the pool business.
unidentified
Yeah.
artie lange
It's something about watching a guy shoot a game at a pool.
Like, just dancing around a table, keeping the stick on there, looking around, looking at the angle, bam, bam, bam, you know.
joe rogan
One of my good friends is this guy, Max Eberle.
Max Eberle is one of the best players in the world.
And I play with him all the time.
It's always frustrating.
But just watching him, I can just pick up little slight things that he does.
Just watching him move.
Like, he always hits the ball at the right speed.
He's always dead on the next ball with the perfect angle.
It's artwork.
artie lange
And what angles you put on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's artwork.
You watch a guy who's just so good at that game, then you appreciate it.
But I think it's one of those art forms that's only appreciated by people who practice it.
artie lange
Right.
Well, it's like rap.
I didn't think rap music was a talent until I heard someone who couldn't rap.
I said, okay, the snoot must be good.
But it's not on the level of pool.
I mean, pool is a true sort of, you know, a less sophisticated version of chess.
You know, it's American chess in a lot of ways.
And it's perfect for a bar.
It's perfect for young guys to get together and bond on.
It's a setup perfectly game, and you get to use your hand-eye coordination.
It's my favorite in the world.
I love it.
joe rogan
I love it too.
I wish it would...
We need to make a comeback, Artie.
artie lange
Come back and shoot.
And the next time we'll shoot some pool on TV or something.
joe rogan
I'm saying we need to...
Yeah, we need to make it and have a comeback.
artie lange
Why don't we have a tournament?
joe rogan
Let's do it.
artie lange
Joe, don't even fuck with me.
I'm not fucking with you.
I love it.
I know you will.
joe rogan
I would love it.
artie lange
It'd be fun.
Look who I'm talking to.
Yeah, all right, well, I'm in!
You absolutely let me know when I will play in the pool.
Joe, you want to call it Rogan's pool tournament?
joe rogan
No, let's come and we'll figure out how to do it.
We'll figure out how to do it, and we can get some other comics to play, like Fitzsimmons plays, Dom Arreira plays.
artie lange
Yeah, I know the pilot shoot's a pretty good game of pool.
unidentified
Does he?
artie lange
Yeah, sure, yeah.
joe rogan
I didn't know.
He didn't tell me.
He held it back when he was here.
He didn't talk about it.
artie lange
Janine Garofalo is great.
joe rogan
I heard.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
But I heard she...
Is it true how she gets rid of the ball?
unidentified
What is she...
joe rogan
What the f- She shoots it like one of those Thai ladies.
Those things that Doug Stanhope talks about.
brian redban
A Kong ball trick.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if that was the handicap?
You know, people are always making crazy bets.
Like, you know, you have to shoot every shot with the plastic bridge.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, what if it was like, you can play, but you have to shoot it with your pussy.
Stuff that ball out there and launch it.
artie lange
That's called America.
joe rogan
There's a woman out there somewhere in the world that can knock, pull balls in with her pussy.
For sure.
Right?
artie lange
Her name is Mrs. Lang.
I'd like that.
joe rogan
There must be.
Right?
Don't you think?
I mean, someone's figured that out.
This has to be a genre of porn.
artie lange
I guess.
joe rogan
There's probably a thousand videos dedicated to, like, billiards coming out of a girl's vagina.
artie lange
I hope so.
We can only hope that happens.
joe rogan
But by the time you think of something like that, for sure that's already been done.
I mean, they think of the most depraved shit in porn these days.
I would imagine they'd be playing pool with pool balls coming out of a girl's vagina.
artie lange
I don't know.
That's kind of rough.
joe rogan
Maybe they're smaller balls, like maybe snooker.
Snooker, as my English friends would say.
artie lange
That's an interesting one.
That might not be done yet.
joe rogan
Yeah, have you ever watched a game of snooker?
artie lange
Yeah, sure, I've been in them.
joe rogan
You've played snooker?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Note how I'm saying it correctly.
artie lange
Very difficult.
Very difficult.
joe rogan
Well, those guys become pool players, and they always do really well, almost right away.
But no pool players go over to snooker and start winning big-time tournaments.
They've had some snooker players from Europe come over and clean up, win the World Ten Ball Championships, Tony Drago.
Killer snooker player.
unidentified
Yeah.
artie lange
I'd like to watch a whole game, but it gets a little boring without the pockets.
I really am excited about Pacquiao and Mayweather, though.
It's the first big boxing match.
I just like boxing so much.
joe rogan
It's a fascinating fight.
artie lange
Yeah, I can't wait.
joe rogan
I would wonder, you know, it's really interesting to see what strategy Pacquiao employs, like whether he just goes at Mayweather the way he goes at everybody else.
Just fast, a lot of movement, a lot of rapid combinations, a lot of angles.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
You know him and Freddie Roach have been prepared.
I've been preparing for this guy forever.
artie lange
They're both going to be prepared.
I like Mayweather's a little bigger, and I think he wants it more, and I think he's quicker.
I think Mayweather's quicker than Pacquiao.
joe rogan
Well, he's very clever.
It's very, very hard to get to.
artie lange
Yeah, you know how to play head games, especially in this country.
joe rogan
What do you show me?
brian redban
I found this woman shoots a pool ball out of her vagina and hits the eight ball into the corner pocket, so we can't show the people home.
artie lange
Oh, that's a chip from my movie.
joe rogan
Don't play it.
brian redban
Okay.
It's real quick.
It's real quick.
joe rogan
You stream will get upset at us.
I knew it was gonna happen.
brian redban
Yeah, here we go.
And it's coming out.
joe rogan
Oh, good lord.
Well, see?
There you go.
artie lange
That's the pitching machine from my movie.
joe rogan
I love the fact that that's real.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, we were right.
artie lange
Absolutely.
joe rogan
It's easy to figure out.
You alright?
artie lange
I'm stretching.
brian redban
You want this chair instead, by the way?
This chair's way more comfortable.
joe rogan
You don't like that chair?
Is that what it is?
unidentified
I'm fine.
joe rogan
It's ergonomic.
artie lange
I'm stretching.
Oh, that feels good.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
How do people sign up for your podcast?
artie lange
Artiequitter.com.
One word.
A-R-T-I-E. Quitter.
joe rogan
And how many times...
This is you guys right here.
How many times do you guys do it a week?
artie lange
Four.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
artie lange
Monday through Thursday, yeah.
And there's a special code.
If you punch in the code, you get a month of the podcast for free.
Unless, of course, you know an eight-year-old who would get on YouTube and you can get it for nothing all the time.
joe rogan
Nothing all the time?
artie lange
What is this?
brian redban
Here's the code to get the free month.
unidentified
It's...
joe rogan
Atlantic 14?
Is that it?
Atlantic 14?
Atlantic 14. Okay, for a free month of Artie's podcast, go to Atlantic 14. And how much does it cost a month?
artie lange
$6.99.
$6.95.
joe rogan
Well, I guarantee you're going to get people to subscribe, but I guarantee you would also get a shitload of people to listen to you online, just if it was free, and then you just get an ad for it.
You just need to be connected with the right people.
artie lange
Alright.
brian redban
Why $6.95 and not $7?
joe rogan
Why not?
It sounds better.
I don't know.
It's like movies.
artie lange
I didn't come up with any of this shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I know.
That is a weird thing.
These uneven numbers for trickery to make you think it's not seven bucks.
artie lange
Because it doesn't sound like seven.
You fool people.
Like, oh, well, it's not seven.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Who's in charge of picking your number?
Who picked that number?
artie lange
I don't know.
Some guy.
I hired a couple of guys.
joe rogan
And he's like, I'm going to fool them all.
They never said this trick before.
artie lange
He said to me, you want a $6.95?
I'm like, yeah, that's fine.
Whatever.
joe rogan
Oh, it's one of those situations.
artie lange
Yeah.
brian redban
I'd like to see some test studies where they actually got like 200 people and say, hey, it's either $7 or $6.95 and see how many people actually, that was like the deciding factor.
Like, you know what?
That sounds too high.
artie lange
It is.
unidentified
All right.
artie lange
I'm telling you, people have said that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure like psychologically.
I mean, it's not a coincidence that they do it all the time.
artie lange
We can either feed our hamster or sign up for me.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of being broke, especially when you're worried about how much this costs or that costs and really mining your pennies, a lot of it is psychological.
You're like, man, I want to get that fucking thing, but shit.
Can I afford it?
Fuck it, I'm just going to go for it.
It's only $6.95, you know?
brian redban
That's why you should just do like $4.95 plus two, maybe.
Because at first you'd be like, four?
That sounds way better.
joe rogan
Plus two?
Confuse the fuck out of me.
brian redban
Yeah, two small numbers equal the same number.
joe rogan
$4.95 plus two dollars.
Only at ArtieLang.com.
Many people do math.
artie lange
I'm trying to find the thing.
joe rogan
What are you looking for?
Oh, did you get unplugged?
He's getting crazy here, ladies and gentlemen.
Artie Lang is just moving about like a wild man, knocking cords out, thinking about going on the road with his nine ball game.
There we go.
Beautiful.
We got it.
We're back?
artie lange
Alright.
We're back.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm thinking you, me, Fitzsimmons, and Dom Herrera.
We do a goddamn pool tournament.
We do it live on the internet.
We get a sponsor.
We have some fun.
We talk some shit.
artie lange
It's safe to say I would, without question, say yes to that.
joe rogan
That would be a lot of fun.
artie lange
There's no doubt about it.
joe rogan
That's totally a good thing to do.
Now that I know you play really good, and Adam Ferrara, like I said, he plays really good, too.
Fitzsimmons plays really good, and Dom can play.
artie lange
Bring him on!
joe rogan
Bring him on, says Ady Meng!
artie lange
Come on, I'm ready.
joe rogan
Alright, we're gonna do that.
We'll do a comedy slash, you know, pool podcast with the four of us.
You can do it right out here.
brian redban
You can even do shows at pool halls.
Like, I've been to pool halls where there's stages.
joe rogan
It's too loud.
What do you mean, like comedy shows?
brian redban
Yeah, like do a comedy show and then play pool.
joe rogan
No.
Because then you're doing a comedy show to a pool hall.
Like, don't you want to do a comedy show at a comedy club?
Like, that's why you want to do comedy.
You don't want to do comedy at a pool hall with a bunch of people watching various games at the bar and talking shit, mad that they missed the eight.
Like, fucking cunt!
In the middle of your set.
You don't have to deal with that.
artie lange
I like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think this place, where it's nice and quiet and private, that's where you want to do it.
You don't want to do it at a pool.
artie lange
Well, I'm in.
You let me know.
Yeah!
I can play better than you think.
joe rogan
So, you played good.
I could tell.
I could tell when...
artie lange
Ping-pong.
joe rogan
Oh, ping-pong.
I don't know how to play that.
artie lange
It's the same thing as pool.
It's just hand-eye coordination.
unidentified
You'll be fine.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you have to practice it.
Oh, you'll be fine.
artie lange
Yeah, you'll practice everything.
joe rogan
I can see how much you love gambling when we started playing for money.
I can tell the little fire inside your eyes.
artie lange
No, no, that's when I bring it on.
That's life's instant excitement.
Double your net worth on a Virginia Tech game on a Tuesday, and you watch the fireworks fly.
joe rogan
Have you done that?
artie lange
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What's the biggest bet you've ever placed?
artie lange
One time...
I won $140,000 on the Super Bowl 2007. Wow.
But after everything, the hooker, the commission, I got back on the plane, I did the math, I was down five grand.
brian redban
What kind of hooker was that?
joe rogan
I knew that kind of hooker.
unidentified
Uh...
Uh...
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
unidentified
Motherfucker!
joe rogan
You pop it out again?
That must have been one fucking while.
How many days did that take?
artie lange
Three.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
So you were burning through?
artie lange
Going nuts.
Forget it.
Just whatever.
joe rogan
Just burning through?
artie lange
Whatever badness came about.
unidentified
Wow.
artie lange
I love that.
joe rogan
You should write a book about just that weekend.
artie lange
I wrote two of them.
They're both bestsellers.
joe rogan
What do I mean about that?
That one particular weekend.
artie lange
Oh, that'll call you.
joe rogan
That should be a whole book by itself.
artie lange
I should do a third one.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
artie lange
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is fucking hilarious.
Goddamn, dude.
So that's the most you've ever won.
artie lange
That's the most I ever lost.
joe rogan
That's the most you've ever lost, too.
Around the same area?
artie lange
Right, exactly.
Because the night I ended up down...
joe rogan
Well, if you're betting that high, man, if you go bad, if you have a weird week, shit can get real ugly.
artie lange
Yeah.
The worst part is to win a couple of times, man.
It hooks you.
joe rogan
You get fired up again.
artie lange
Yeah, it hooks you, and then boom, before you know it.
joe rogan
So what is it?
Is it just playing that chemical rush game of, like, knowing you could lose 100 grand?
artie lange
Without question.
It's a physical rush, without question.
joe rogan
Does it pull you?
Do you feel like if you haven't bet in a while, do you feel like you need to place a bet?
Does it start pulling at you?
artie lange
No, not for me.
I'm not like that.
But when I go somewhere and something reminds me of it, I can put one down, and then that could start a binge going.
I never sit at home craving I've got to bet on something.
joe rogan
To me, what I'm getting out of Artie Lang, because I love you, is that you're a talented guy that loves pleasure.
That's what it is.
artie lange
Pleasure and excitement.
I like feeling something.
It doesn't have to be pleasure.
joe rogan
And this gambling thing, that's like cutting.
That goes deep down to the nerves.
artie lange
It's the best thing in the world.
It's just like...
Me and Norm MacDonald used to do this thing called lightning bet, which is literally heroin for gamblers.
You know what the under-over is?
joe rogan
No.
artie lange
You ever hear that?
joe rogan
What is lightning?
Yeah, I know what the under-over is.
artie lange
Anybody here know what the under-over is?
joe rogan
Yeah.
artie lange
Like I say, you're betting a basketball game, okay?
And the under-over for the basketball game is 180 points, which that means is...
The total amount of points that each team scores has to come total over 180. Then you win.
If the total number that they score is below 180, you lose.
Hence, over-under.
So, a lightning bet is you assign a number...
An amount of money to each point that the bet goes over or under.
Which means if you lightning bet $1,000 on an over at $180, once you hit the over, I get the chills saying this.
Once you hit the over, every single basket that gets hit in the game, you win $1,000.
joe rogan
Every?
From both teams?
artie lange
Both teams.
A basket from the field is $2,000.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
artie lange
A three-pointers, three grand.
Every single basket.
unidentified
Three grand for everything.
artie lange
It's a thousand grand.
Oh, my God.
So, like, the shakes you start to get while you're watching are literally, like, they're visible.
It's almost like, you know, you're having a conniption.
And you have drinks, maybe Coke, something that will calm you down.
And every time a shot goes up, it's like, $1,000!
$2,000!
$2,000!
And to me, it's the purest form of degenerate gambling I've ever seen.
I've ever seen.
joe rogan
I wasn't even aware that existed.
artie lange
Norm and I was on the road once for six months.
I was opening for him.
It was during the basketball playoffs.
We had about 40 Gs on every game.
unidentified
God!
brian redban
Wasn't Norm the one we just talked about that had that famous story where he threw the money in the ocean because he knew he was going to lose it?
Was that Norm?
artie lange
Yeah, he decided to throw it out because he thought it would just make him lose more.
joe rogan
But that might have very well been urban legend.
unidentified
Do you know is that true?
artie lange
A lot of this could be urban legend.
joe rogan
No, not from you.
I'm saying from...
I didn't hear it from Norm.
artie lange
I agree that that could be...
Did you?
No.
And I agree that could be urban legend.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Well, everyone knows he's just a wild maniac.
artie lange
He's one of the funniest, smartest human beings I've ever met, but he's got a true edge and a true danger, and that's what happens.
I love him, though.
He's a rock star, man.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker.
artie lange
He's a rock star.
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
He's hilarious, and he's also like, that's really him.
Stop putting on an act.
artie lange
You know, when he hosted the ESPYs in 2001, O.J. Simpson was just forced to give his Heisman Trophy back to Fred Goldman because O.J. lost the civil suit.
So he had to give money reparations back to Fred Goldman and Nicole.
So he didn't have any money.
So he said, take my Heisman Trophy, whatever that's worth.
So Fred Goldman takes it.
And now he owns it.
So, the next week, Norm hosts the ESPYs.
Charles Woodson, the guy who won the Heisman Trophy, the first defensive guy ever sitting in the front row.
First joke Norm tells, he looks in the front row and he says, Hey, Charles Woodson, man, you won the Heisman Trophy.
No one can ever take that away from you.
First defensive guy to win the Heisman Trophy.
No one can ever take that away from you.
And everybody applauds.
It's like a real nice thing.
And it settles down and goes, no one can ever take that Heisman Trophy away.
And then he pauses and said, unless, of course, you kill your wife and a waiter.
joe rogan
How's that galore?
artie lange
It bombed.
joe rogan
Did it really?
artie lange
Well, it was, yeah, it was a radio studio.
It was like Ken Griffey Jr. was on the phone.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
What did they expect?
That's Norm fucking McDonald.
artie lange
Well, maybe not that, but it makes me love him even more.
joe rogan
Norm and I talked.
We sat next to each other randomly on an airplane.
Talked the whole way back.
Just shot the shit.
Talked about all kinds of stuff.
I was like, yeah, I quit smoking a while ago.
Just done with it.
And for whatever reason, the plane lands and he goes, man, I just want a cigarette.
He just walks in this door.
He hadn't smoked in like X amount of months, but just decided from talking about it on the airplane, how he quit smoking, that he just wanted another cigarette.
Grabbed it, went outside, and he's just smoking.
I go, what happened?
I go, I thought you quit smoking.
He goes, I did.
I did until just now.
I just wanted a cigarette.
artie lange
The movie, me and him, I did a buddy comedy with him, and it got bad reviews, right?
So the reviewer in my hometown paper said, Artie Lang has all the charm of a date rapist.
True line.
So Norm looks at it, and he calls me up, and he goes, hey, man, that's fucking great.
A date rapist has to have way more charm than a regular rapist.
unidentified
That made me feel better.
artie lange
Norm is the coolest motherfucker on the planet.
I love him, and he's funny, and I hope he doesn't die broke.
joe rogan
No, he's just a real special dude.
He's a very unusual guy.
I've got to get him on this podcast.
I just never see him.
artie lange
You'd have a blast, of course.
joe rogan
When I was on the plane with him, he didn't even have a cell phone back then.
I got an answering machine.
They can get me there.
Call them back when I want to.
artie lange
That's so true.
They can call me back if they want.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it is how it should be, I guess.
Unless someone needs to get a hold of you right now.
artie lange
Well, for doctors, lawyers, kids, I guess it's good.
Everything else, who cares?
joe rogan
What about Gamblinati?
The line is hot!
artie lange
I know.
I'd rather not know for a while.
joe rogan
You had genuine disdain for me in your eyes when I told you that I didn't watch sports.
I really saw it in your eyes.
artie lange
Well, no, because I thought you did watch sports.
joe rogan
I know, you were disappointed.
artie lange
But you play sports, though.
joe rogan
I don't, just martial arts.
artie lange
Okay, that's a sport, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess so.
artie lange
I mean, are you a box?
joe rogan
I played sport, yeah.
artie lange
When me and you first met at MADtv a long time ago, I thought you told me that you played second baser, you played baseball.
joe rogan
Oh, I did before I started martial arts, but that was when I was like...
You and I had a conversation about boxing because you played my boxing manager on Mad TV. It's actually a very good sketch.
artie lange
It was shot in black and white.
joe rogan
But we talked a lot of boxing.
artie lange
No, because we bonded on it, sure.
I love boxing.
joe rogan
I became friends with you and Callan from that show.
Callan's one of my best friends this day.
artie lange
Brian's a good man, man.
joe rogan
He's a great guy, and he loves you, too.
artie lange
Brian and I have a very special friendship.
I love that motherfucker.
He's a good guy, and I hope he's doing well.
Tell him I said hello, you know.
joe rogan
I will, for sure.
But it was one of those things, it was like, you two guys were like, you were like, when I got on that show, it was like, I saw a lot of competition, a lot of competitive angst, but there was you two guys, they were like regular guys that were cool to hang with, and it was like real normal and comfortable, no Hollywood bullshit.
artie lange
No, thanks.
Well, it's a fun place to work, and it was good to have somebody like you come on so we could just really fuck around.
But that show lasted 14 years, God bless it.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
artie lange
I still get checks.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
artie lange
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you know, that Mad Magazine, I mean, that's about as iconic.
artie lange
It's a juggernaut.
Yeah, it's a juggernaut, absolutely.
joe rogan
That shit was around in like the 60s or the 70s or something, right?
artie lange
50s probably.
unidentified
50s?
artie lange
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it was Billy Corbin was saying that he used to have all the Mad magazines.
He went away to college, his mom threw them out.
He had like every episode.
I'm cleaning all the clutter!
Just tossed out these fucking icons of American history.
I mean, Mad magazine is like, I used to read that shit.
My parents used to buy that when I was a little kid.
artie lange
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's been around forever.
artie lange
I was big with puns, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
artie lange
We'd always have to pitch puns, and I would pitch them as a joke, thinking they'd never do it.
And sometimes they would do it, and I'm like, oh my, wait, I was kidding.
Like, I would pitch stuff like Andre Dawson's Creek.
He was a baseball player.
Rush Limbaugh sings Rush songs.
They wouldn't do that.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
artie lange
Tori Amos and Ami.
They wouldn't do that.
I mean, just make it easier.
joe rogan
Do you ever see yourself doing a sketch show again, or is it just too much work?
artie lange
It's a young man's game.
It is.
I look back at those sketches at Man TV, and I'm like, oh my god, how did I do that?
joe rogan
Did you like doing that sports show?
It's like the show with you and Nick was mostly sports, but a lot of comedy as well.
unidentified
Yeah, I loved it.
artie lange
Nick and I had a lot of fun.
We got to talk about sports, be funny and everything, and of course the corporate people tried to make it something that wasn't.
They wanted a more conservative show.
And I can't blame them, but, you know, you didn't hire me to do SportsCenter, did you?
joe rogan
Why'd they hire you to do a conservative show?
That's ridiculous.
artie lange
Because it was probably one in the long line of bad business decisions that they made.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you guys weren't that outrageous?
It wasn't so off the charts crazy?
artie lange
No, we weren't.
I think they just, the certain little things we said, you know, Might not be considered proper English they got mad at.
joe rogan
See, that's the beauty.
That's where the beauty of podcasting comes in.
Like you said when you sat down.
artie lange
This is fantastic.
And I love...
Look, everybody who signed up for me already is...
God bless you.
I appreciate it.
I hope people will more.
But this is the first time I am uncensored.
Completely and utter uncensored.
I got nobody telling me what to do.
Nobody.
So it'll be foam.
joe rogan
100%.
And you, like, because of your tweets...
You know, because of the funny shit that you've been saying, like, you're in a good place comedically right now.
You're hitting high notes.
artie lange
I just did a special.
I did a...
Yeah, everything I've done in the last year I've liked.
So, you know.
joe rogan
So is that what's, like, bringing you the most joy, like, at this stage?
Like, the stand-up?
artie lange
I guess, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It seems like it's, like, the most pure, right?
You get that burst of one hour, you know, you get it out.
artie lange
Yeah, there's nothing like stand-up, man.
There's nothing like grabbing a mic and saying something in the mic and you get the immediate reaction.
You get a check and you get the hell out of there.
Everything else takes forever.
joe rogan
Have you ever thought about doing like a Vegas residency?
artie lange
Not for a long time, no.
I've been there for two weeks.
Not longer than two weeks.
joe rogan
You wouldn't do it?
artie lange
It depends on the cash, man.
joe rogan
I've seen you and your gambling in Vegas and someone putting you up in a casino.
Dude, I'm telling you.
artie lange
Give me a price.
joe rogan
Wild fucking ride.
artie lange
Give me a price, baby.
joe rogan
If you really want to go out like one of those July...
Those fireworks shows at Disney in July when they really go off right around the 4th?
artie lange
Just give me a number.
joe rogan
Brian Regan, who was in here earlier, he lives in Vegas, but he doesn't work in Vegas.
He works on the road.
artie lange
Oh, yeah.
He lives, but does technically live in Vegas?
joe rogan
Technically lives just outside of Vegas, in one of those suburban towns, but he doesn't perform in Vegas at all.
unidentified
Wow!
artie lange
Wait, really?
joe rogan
What?
artie lange
That's nuts!
joe rogan
Well, his kids live there, so he doesn't want to perform near where his kids live.
artie lange
Yeah, Brian Regan, one of the best comedians ever, was just in there.
It was a pleasure to meet Brian.
Thank you.
joe rogan
I couldn't believe you'd never met him before.
unidentified
That's crazy.
artie lange
Never met Brian.
He is one of my absolute fucking heroes.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a great guy.
artie lange
Unreal.
Clean and good and original, unreal.
joe rogan
Yeah, he reminds me of Gaffigan in that sense, where they're completely squeaky clean, but undeniably two of the best comics in the world.
Like, Gaffigan doesn't lose anything for being squeaky clean.
His comedy is just...
He just smashes it every time.
Like, he doesn't have to be dirty.
artie lange
Yeah, they're the same types of guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what they do.
You know, that's why the beauty of comedy...
With a lot of these guys, you have to find out who the fuck they are.
Mitch Hedberg, perfect example.
That's not a model.
You can't say, oh, a Hedberg type before he existed.
You couldn't nail that down.
The closest you would get is maybe Stephen Wright, kind of.
But not really.
Hedberg had his own thing.
artie lange
I know.
I didn't want to stick around and see what happened.
Yeah, you know, I don't think he was, it was that much of an accident with him, unfortunately.
joe rogan
No, unfortunately.
Well, after he, you know, he'd had one health scare from the heroin, and then, like, he was getting gangrene or something crazy from shooting at the same spot.
artie lange
That's what happens.
You can smell it, too.
You know, getting on a plane.
brian redban
What's it smell like?
artie lange
Oh, I'm not sure.
I've never smelled it.
joe rogan
I would imagine not good, like any sort of...
Well, you're dealing with rotting tissue.
brian redban
Yeah, it's gotta be like a dead mouse under the couch or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, something like that, probably along those lines.
Dead tissue.
Yeah, too bad, man.
What a funny fucking guy he was.
Jesus Christ.
Uniquely funny.
artie lange
A lot of funny people, yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, that one guy that just overdosed last week.
joe rogan
I didn't know that kid.
Did you know that kid?
artie lange
No, I never know.
brian redban
I met him through Taylor Vixen back in the day.
He followed me, I followed him type thing.
We talked a few times.
Then I saw him at the clubs a few times.
What was his name again?
Little...
unidentified
What was that?
artie lange
Harris Whittles.
brian redban
Harris Whittles.
joe rogan
Harris Wills.
Poor bastard.
brian redban
He was a nice guy.
He seemed like a really nice guy.
I was actually going to have him on the podcast, but then he became an executive producer of that Parks and Rec show, and I was like, oh, this guy's never...
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard he was a really good comic, too.
I heard he was a very funny writer.
I heard that from everybody.
That's fucking...
Those goddamn pills, man.
artie lange
Was it Pills?
joe rogan
Yeah.
artie lange
How old was he?
brian redban
I heard...
Was it Pills?
Because I was told that he was into heroin.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
artie lange
Yeah, but it's the same thing.
One leads to the other.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, you might be right, but I had heard it was pills.
Well, it's, you know, that's what you're getting when you're taking opiates.
You're basically getting the same stuff.
I mean, it's hillbilly heroin.
That's why they call it that.
artie lange
Yeah, the scary part of it is the ingredient they put in that fucks with your liver.
Not everything does that.
Tylenol has it.
Percocet has it.
But...
Stuff like Xanax and stuff don't happen for some reason.
I have no idea why.
But your liver goes way quicker if you take Percocet or something else.
joe rogan
When did you have your first experience with opiates?
artie lange
Oh, man.
I was probably 14. Whoa.
Whoa.
joe rogan
What was that feeling like?
artie lange
It was all right.
It felt good.
It threw up a little bit, you know.
joe rogan
Wow.
artie lange
And then I was at an ACDC concert.
1981, back in black.
I took a little.
And it was great.
joe rogan
Sniff?
artie lange
Concha never felt that good in my life.
No sniffing.
I wasn't sniffing anything.
joe rogan
How'd you take it?
artie lange
I was like this.
I just took it on my tongue.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's all you would do?
Just put it on your tongue?
artie lange
When I was 14. Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
It dissolved and was like, whoa.
joe rogan
That's what did it, my friend Johnny.
He started out with a lot of it was uppers, a lot of coke.
Started out with a lot of coke and crack and things along those lines.
And then somewhere along the line it shifted to heroin.
unidentified
Yeah.
artie lange
Well, that's what happens because heroin's cheaper and it's better for your liver.
You know, the natural thing and then bam, that fucks you too.
joe rogan
It's better for your liver than coke?
artie lange
Yes.
No.
No.
Pills are worse for your liver than any powder.
Powder doesn't have to go through your liver.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
14, man.
That's insane.
When did it become like a regular thing?
How old did you become when it was a regular thing?
artie lange
18. Wow.
Something like that.
joe rogan
That's 17, 17, 17. So you have like periods where you stopped and then periods got back on.
artie lange
But yeah, I could never have done in my career what I did early on if I was on heroin.
No way.
joe rogan
Didn't make sense.
artie lange
You can't function.
joe rogan
Yeah.
artie lange
You can't function.
joe rogan
Wow.
So when you see like this, how many people get prescribed it today, and you know how much of a pull it has on people.
When you see, I mean, they're prescribing it to people all the time.
People have injuries.
Right.
artie lange
Well, it depends on the injury.
If you really broke your back, you know, and your loved ones there, they don't want you sitting there with a broken back.
If they really need it, they really need it.
The problem is you've got to go to a great doctor who knows how to wean you off it right.
Because if they don't do it, you'll be in withdrawals when you get out.
And then you're physically addicted to it.
That's the problem.
You're physically addicted.
Charlie Parker, the old saxophonist, said something.
He said, they can get it out of your blood, but they can't get it out of your brain.
You know, you keep remembering what it felt like.
I mean, that's the problem.
joe rogan
My friend Brendan Schaub is a guy who fights for the UFC.
He was on the podcast recently talking about how he got his nose reconstructed.
He broke his nose in a fight.
He couldn't fight for a while and got hooked on pain pills.
It's like they prescribed him to him.
He started taking them.
Before he knew it, he was taking six a day and he was taking them every day.
And after the reconstruction is done, he just can't stop taking them.
It was for months.
artie lange
Yeah, it's a shame.
joe rogan
And he's not that, you know, he's not that guy.
artie lange
And that destroys your liver.
You might as well get a fungo bat out and just hit your liver with it.
Really?
That many pills, bam, bam, bam.
And especially if you have some booze with them, fuck it.
Fuck it, fuck it.
joe rogan
Is that the only way to party, though?
unidentified
The booze?
joe rogan
You gotta mix it?
artie lange
With the pills.
joe rogan
Why is that more dangerous?
Why is it more dangerous to mix booze with them?
artie lange
Because it's a combination.
It's like bam, bam.
It's like a one-two punch.
joe rogan
It's like an overdose type of thing.
artie lange
It's a one-two punch, man.
A little water, a little, a little wine.
You marinate your liver.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
artie lange
Done it plenty of times.
joe rogan
Did you ever do it, make bets that you forgot about, and then wake up in the morning with a stub in your pocket going, what the fuck did I bet on?
artie lange
I used to do that with Monday Night Football.
I would bet at 5 o'clock, and then I'd go drinking, and I would be drunk, and I would call the bookie again at 7.30, so drunk, and all I would do is bet on the other team.
So all I could do was lose the VIG, the tax for losing.
So I lose the VIG the next day.
I call the book up and I go, dude, what the fuck did you let me do that for?
And he actually said this to me.
He said, you gotta learn a life lesson.
I said, thanks, Mr. Book.
joe rogan
Your bookie's giving you life lessons.
artie lange
Thanks, Mr. Gambino.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That's fucking hilarious.
artie lange
Unbelievable.
unidentified
I'm already lying.
joe rogan
You've had a goddamn colorful life.
artie lange
I don't know.
joe rogan
They don't make a dude like you the easy way.
artie lange
Nah, I haven't been easy.
joe rogan
That's why you're you, man, you know?
That's the beautiful thing about life.
What I was saying earlier about hanging out in pool halls, like you meet so many crazy, interesting characters.
artie lange
You do, you do.
And it's fun!
joe rogan
That's why it makes sense that you could play pool.
artie lange
Well, look, prom is you need a balance.
joe rogan
Yeah.
artie lange
And I could win a lot of money off those other people, too.
Although I'm still a dirtbag.
joe rogan
Well, that hustle that you guys had is pretty strong.
artie lange
That never failed, except the one time I kept missing.
Never failed.
Think about it.
Your buddy sets it up, it's like, boom!
Ba-boom!
joe rogan
He just bobbles it, just hits the point of the pocket and leaves it there.
artie lange
He's like Pete Carroll on the fuckin' Seahawks.
joe rogan
Man, that's hilarious that you were doing that for so long.
How many times do you guys think you played that?
artie lange
Played what?
joe rogan
Did that hustle.
artie lange
In seven years, probably 3,000 times.
unidentified
You're just robbing people.
artie lange
Oh, we're just gambling.
That's not gambling.
joe rogan
You're tricking them.
artie lange
I used it for the right thing.
joe rogan
It's smart, though.
Look, it's a clever move.
artie lange
It's America.
It's America!
Free enterprise.
Come on, sweetie.
Give me a break.
joe rogan
Have you ever gotten in trouble for gambling?
Is there a way, like, did they ever try to get you to tell who your bookie is?
artie lange
Yes, I got arrested for gambling once, and my buddy did too, and we both kind of dummied up and they let us go.
joe rogan
You dummied up?
You mean you didn't know?
I don't know.
I don't know what to say.
They eventually have to let you go?
artie lange
Monkey no see, monkey no do.
joe rogan
How long do they keep you for?
artie lange
Three hours.
I mean, three days.
joe rogan
Three days for gambling?
artie lange
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
artie lange
Why'd you get caught?
Suspection of gambling.
joe rogan
Suspicion of gambling!
Three days!
What a country!
Like Yakov Smirnoff says.
artie lange
They want to get somebody bigger.
And I'll be honest with you, I was much more afraid of the other person than the cops.
I just was.
So I said, they have nothing on me, the lawyer said.
They have nothing.
You might get three days.
Just sit here and shut up.
So every time somebody asks me, you go, you know, what's going on?
You're gambling with this guy?
I'm like, nah, I'm gambling.
I don't think you're gambling.
I mean, others are like, me can't.
I don't know.
joe rogan
So how did you get caught?
Like, what was the circumstance?
artie lange
The place got raided.
The pool.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So you guys were playing cards?
artie lange
No, pool.
unidentified
Pool?
artie lange
We were all shooting pool.
joe rogan
Suspicion of gambling pool?
artie lange
All shooting pool.
joe rogan
Wow.
Three days?
artie lange
It was a major ring.
joe rogan
This happened in the 40s?
artie lange
And there was card tables on the back.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So it was a sweep.
They were trying to get all the connected folk in the neighborhood.
You can smoke that if you want.
artie lange
Let's face it, Joe, it was a setup.
joe rogan
You think so?
Someone inside?
artie lange
I still don't trust a couple of people.
Ooh, not me.
joe rogan
Tell me more.
artie lange
Motherfucker.
joe rogan
Those motherfuckers.
artie lange
Giants used to have a guy who announced all the games on the radio.
His name was Jim Gordon.
And so you'd have a bet on the game.
And if you made a mistake, if you had a ton of bet on the game and he was on the radio, if he made mistakes, you didn't know what the fuck was going on.
And, you know, it would get nerve-wracking.
So, you know, you'd have all this money on the game, and here's what Jim Gordon would say.
Sims drops back looking for a receiver.
He's going way deep, long, long, way down for Baker, baby!
Touchdown, Giants!
No, he dropped it!
And then you get, like, physical pain.
And then you get Mega takes the ball to zone 32. He crossed midfield 45-40, 35-30.
He's got one man to beat the kicker.
He's by the kicker.
He'll score!
No, he stepped out of the five!
One time, I had $500 to my name.
I put $1,000 on a giant game.
And here's what this cocksucker said on the fucking fuck radio.
Giants have the ball, fourth and goal from the one.
Till in the lone setback.
Hand of time!
unidentified
Maybe!
artie lange
He!
He's in!
Wait!
No!
I can't see it!
Now word from Toyota.
unidentified
That's what that motherfucker did.
joe rogan
Oh.
Listening to sports on the radio while you're gambling has got to be one of the craziest fucking things ever.
artie lange
Very difficult to do that.
joe rogan
Well, that's how people did it.
Back in the old days, they had the Joe Frazier fights on the radio.
Frazier with the right hand!
artie lange
Down goes Frazier!
joe rogan
Yeah, that was on the radio.
artie lange
Down goes Frazier!
unidentified
Joe Lewis and Max Schmeling at the garden.
artie lange
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, they used to have those events where people would huddle over the radio and listen to sporting events.
Your grandfather used to do that with baseball.
artie lange
They used to hover over the right field fence with their legs waiting to charge the field before the last hour was made.
Their leg was in play.
joe rogan
Sure.
artie lange
That's certainly not allowed.
joe rogan
Yeah, certainly not allowed.
My grandfather used to do that, especially games that weren't on television.
He would listen to them on the radio, sit in front of his fucking couch, listen to the radio on a Yankee game.
artie lange
Wow.
joe rogan
Be very connected to what happened there.
Very excited about it.
artie lange
The Yankee fan?
joe rogan
Yeah.
There was some gambling in my family.
My grandmother was involved in running the numbers, and she got arrested, and she wouldn't rat them out, so they put her in jail for six months.
artie lange
No kidding!
joe rogan
Yeah, she would make sweaters for the guards and shit.
artie lange
Damn it!
That's a woman!
joe rogan
She was fresh off the boat.
unidentified
You know, she came here when she was a young girl.
artie lange
God bless her.
joe rogan
When you come here when you're a young girl and you grow up with that first-generation immigrant family, that's a different kind of animal.
artie lange
God bless her.
joe rogan
You don't rat people out back then.
artie lange
Of course you don't!
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
artie lange
I'm not talking to you.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
I think you have another show that you have to get to.
I don't want you to leave, though.
artie lange
Everything's a big fucking arrangement.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
You got a bunch of people telling you what to do.
You can smoke that.
Just smoke it.
You don't have to stuff it in there.
artie lange
I'm not even smoking.
I got no fucking...
joe rogan
There's a lighter.
I threw you a lighter.
artie lange
Joe, not now!
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Here, here's one right there.
There's one beside you.
unidentified
There's a little...
artie lange
Thank you very much.
joe rogan
Do we have an air cleaner on right now?
Probably not that good.
I'm going to watch the smoke drift.
See if it goes towards the air cleaner at all.
brian redban
Blow it towards me.
I'm good.
artie lange
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Where are you supposed to go after this?
artie lange
Well, this has been something else.
I actually have a dinner with somebody.
Let's just say it's a very special person.
Let's just say I'm having dinner with someone who's named...
Well, his name rhymes with Shmiumneson.
I'm playing a vigilante.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Are you the mastermind of the organization that leads him to his daughter that's been kidnapped?
artie lange
No, I play a cabbie he kills in the first three seconds.
He snaps my neck.
joe rogan
He's kicking people's asses at 80. A lot.
artie lange
I mean, it's like he's really cashing them.
He's cashing them.
joe rogan
But what an unlikely scenario.
The guy becomes an action star deep into his 50s, I think, or his 60s.
artie lange
Yeah, after his wife dies.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How weird.
All of a sudden, he's kicking everybody's ass.
Like all these Taken movies.
I have a very special set of skills.
Where was all that before?
Before he was like a reasonable man in movies.
artie lange
Talk about obnoxious people.
Rob Schneider was going to do a movie with Steven Seagal.
He told this story on Stern.
And he goes into Seagal's dressing room.
Seagal comes out of the back and he says to Rob Schneider, I just read the greatest script ever written.
And Rob Schneider said, my God, that's great.
Who wrote it?
And he said, I did.
You never know who you're going to run into.
joe rogan
Those guys exist.
artie lange
Yeah, they do.
joe rogan
And they exist out here in abundance.
artie lange
More than anywhere.
joe rogan
More than anywhere.
artie lange
Because 50% of this town works, the other 50% fucks the 50% town that works wives.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Strong words.
artie lange
Thank you so much.
joe rogan
I think there's definitely a lot of people out here that are like that, though.
artie lange
There's a lot of boars in the world.
joe rogan
They are.
How do you stop that?
How do we prevent that, Artie?
artie lange
You try to hang out with the right click of people.
joe rogan
Right.
artie lange
And if someone gives you shit, you repeat the mantra my therapist told me in the late 70s.
Which is, of course, your verbal bullets are nothing against my armor of self-confidence.
joe rogan
Strong words.
artie lange
Remember that one.
joe rogan
That should be like on Instagram.
artie lange
Next time you're feeling down, just remember that one.
joe rogan
There will be a photo of you, I predict, someone will put up on Instagram with those words, and you smiling, holding a cigarette.
artie lange
I told my mother, if she ever died, I'm going to put three words on her tombstone.
And she said, well, I said, bitch could cook.
unidentified
That's all you need.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Your Instagram had a photo of her with some of the food she cooked for your Super Bowl party.
It was a big aluminum tray.
artie lange
Oh, no joke.
joe rogan
What was that?
artie lange
If you're ever anywhere near my house, you have to come to the Super Bowl.
Sausage and peppers, meatballs with fried green peppers, galamad, and rigatoni with meat sauce, a little salad.
joe rogan
Dude, I'll fly in.
artie lange
And, of course, some bread.
A little on salad.
joe rogan
I'm getting excited.
artie lange
I got a quick fucking shoot.
I help you out with a lot of things, Hendry.
Come on.
unidentified
No.
artie lange
Come on, Henry!
I'm worried about you!
You may fold on the questioning!
joe rogan
Dude, I'll fly in for that.
artie lange
What do you want?
The leg or the wing?
I'll tell you what.
You fly in for that, I'll fly in for the...
joe rogan
The pool tournament?
Okay.
artie lange
The pool tournament.
joe rogan
It's a deal.
artie lange
The pool tournament I'm so in, you have no idea.
joe rogan
I know you're in.
artie lange
No idea.
joe rogan
I can see you.
I'm watching you play today.
You play good.
artie lange
And you too.
Me and you will be in a flash.
We'll shoot some pool.
joe rogan
I'll say that to Dom.
And they might fucking...
artie lange
Are they good?
joe rogan
They might back out.
artie lange
Are they good?
Are you guys good?
joe rogan
They might back out.
No.
Dom is good, though.
Not these guys.
But Dom's good, and Adam Farrar is pretty good, and Greg Fitzsimmons is good.
But these guys, not so good.
artie lange
I'm in.
joe rogan
But you're the front-runner.
And Farrar can get out pretty good, too.
But Greg can get out, too.
Greg can get out.
All right.
brian redban
Pocket pool, I'm good.
artie lange
I'm in, man.
You are.
joe rogan
You're like a world champion, right?
He's a pocket pool ace.
Ace in the hole.
artie lange
In all honesty, I'm in and pleased.
I'd love to see you back east, but Joe, thanks for supporting me too, man.
I appreciate it, man.
joe rogan
Listen, you are a real comic, and I love you.
I love your personality.
I love you.
Let it all hang out.
artie lange
We go back a long time, man.
Sketch at 95, right?
joe rogan
It was a long time, but you've always been cool.
I've always enjoyed your company.
artie lange
Thanks, Joe.
unidentified
Thanks, man.
joe rogan
I appreciate it.
What is Artie Quitter?
What is that?
artie lange
It's just Artie Lang was taken and I noticed that this poet Charles Bukowski had on his epitaph, don't try.
His thing was...
And that's all it said.
It goes, the art of quitting is underrated.
And I said, for peace, I'll quit something before I die.
So that's what that means.
unidentified
Beautiful.
artie lange
Artie Quitter.
joe rogan
Artie Quitter.
artie lange
Yeah.
joe rogan
Artie Quitter, ladies and gentlemen.
And Artie, your podcast website, one more time?
artie lange
ArtieQuitter.com is the same place.
Artie Quitter Twitter.
Artie Quitter, all one word,.com.
Artie Lang on the center.
Thanks.
joe rogan
Thank you, brother.
artie lange
Crew, thanks, Joe.
That was fun, man.
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