Josh McDermitt reveals how a Walking Dead role—earned after Joe Rogan’s open mic invite at the 2013 Las Vegas Comedy Festival—shifted his career from stand-up to acting, despite Hollywood’s history of altering stories (e.g., UFC’s founding year in Mark Schultz’s biopic) and racial insensitivity (like Ted Danson’s blackface). He critiques rigid education systems, comparing Rogan’s self-taught success in Taekwondo and comedy to his own discouragement from a high school art teacher, while Rogan mocks modern outrage over blackface and defends legalizing sex work. Ultimately, the episode underscores how passion and resilience often outperform institutional conformity, even in flawed systems. [Automatically generated summary]
And then they asked the audience after your show to stick around so that they could do this little...
It was like a contest or some sort of showcase to select someone to go to this festival.
And they put me last...
And the first comic goes up and half of your crowd, like most of your crowd stuck around.
Half the crowd walks after the first comic.
And I was like, oh shit, man.
And I'm sitting in the back next to you and I hadn't met you.
I mean, I'd met you like as I worked at that radio station, but like, you know, we didn't know each other.
You're just eating your meal and you're watching this and I'm looking at you and you're not laughing at anybody because it wasn't funny.
And I was like, oh, this sucks, man.
Like Rogan's just going to be like, man, these guys fucking suck.
Like he's going to talk trash about us or whatever.
More and more people keep leaving as the show's going on to the point that it's like a 500-seat theater and there's like 30 people left by the time I get up.
And I didn't give a shit at that point.
And literally, I heard you laughing the loudest in the back at my set.
And I'm like, well, that's a victory, I guess.
And then I got to go to the festival and that was fun and everything.
But you literally asked me, you're like, hey, you want to open for me the rest of the weekend?
And that just kind of set me on this path.
To come to LA and pursue acting and to continue to do stand-up and all that, dude.
Like, I don't know how much you realize, like, how important you've been to me, man.
I mean, you know, there's this guy, Mark Schultz, and he was the Olympic wrestler that his brother, Dave Schultz, got killed by that guy, John DuPont, that crazy millionaire, billionaire guy in Connecticut.
They fucked that up, man.
I went to see that movie.
Mark Schultz made a bunch of tweets about it, about how pissed off he was.
They fucked with his story.
They fucked with his timeline.
They fucked with how much success he actually had as a wrestler before he went to...
He was already an Olympic gold medalist and a world champion.
And, you know, it's fun to play a different character in this world where like...
Obviously, you've got guys like Daryl or Michonne who are just epic badasses, and obviously those people are probably going to rise to the top in this world.
Just people who are physically fit and can just do whatever they have to do to survive.
This guy is completely opposite, and that's what becomes fun about playing him is that you just wouldn't expect that.
I have a theory that if the apocalypse happened, most people would be more like Eugene than they would like Daryl.
I mean, they'll just create brand new storylines for people.
Again, if you haven't watched this last weekend's episode, there was a major character death, but his death, you know, he dies in the comics, but the death on the show was not how they did it in the comics.
There was another character that that guy's death was this guy from last weekend's death in the comics, and it just gets mixed around.
But with, so I knew that, you know, when I took the job, I knew the big reveals that my character would have.
And this is weird to be talking about it in vague terms.
The guy who runs our show now, Scott Gimple, he...
And I don't really pay attention to who writes episodes.
I'm just like, oh, it's my favorite episode, but I'm not looking up who wrote it.
So I started going back and looking at my favorite episodes, and I found out who wrote it, and it was Scott Gimple.
So my favorite episodes from season three was that episode Clear, where they're in that dude's apartment, and he's got all the writing on the wall, and he's gone absolutely crazy.
The character arc between Rick and his buddy who was banging his wife because they thought Rick was dead.
All that crazy shit.
It was so much nutty tension.
It left you in this weird space while you're watching it where you didn't know what to expect.
And then the zombies were new at that point.
There was so much going on.
It was like, whoa!
Every time it would fade to black at the end of the episode, you'd be like, fuck!
You know, you just have to catch your breath.
And then it got to be like a lazy Hollywood show.
And I was like, what happened?
Did some fuckhead producer weasel his way into a position of power and start manipulating shit and trying to turn it into another episode of Coach or something like that?
I don't know the specifics, but Frank Darabont, you know, Shawshank Redemption is a great Hollywood screenwriter and director.
You develop the show from the comics and then he was in charge of it the first two seasons but then he left after the second season and so it's about the third season that they kind of went over some rocky terrain like you know they did there were some great episodes and my favorite episode is in season three but there they just didn't really hit it was very inconsistent and so then when Scott Gable took over season four it just took right off took right off it's amazing now god damn it's a good show He's,
you know, because I think just as, when I'm watching it as a fan, I would, it would kind of get boring at times where I'd be like, oh, okay, like, they run out of supplies, and they're going to go on a run, and oh, this zombie pops out, kill it, and then, you know, rinse, repeat, whatever.
So, but now they're, like, really developing the characters and, like, bringing them, you know, we're learning so much more about them, it's like, Freaking great.
The great thing about that bite was that it happened like 20 minutes into the episode as opposed to like sometimes they'll wait till the very end and it's like oh no and then the episode ends.
He gets bit and then he has these hallucinogenic dreams and all this about these past characters are coming back and all this stuff.
Robert Kirkman, the guy who created the comics was saying it's going to be a fan favorite episode and it's going to be a fan hated episode because it's a very poetic type of Uh, episode that they wrote.
I guess he went to, like, University of Virginia or something, and they're...
There's some school in Virginia, and they're doing away with SAT scores.
They're only going to focus on the GPA now.
And then he retweets it and puts at the front, oh, hell yeah, my Alma Marta.
Marta, M-A-R-D-A? You don't know if he's kidding or not, but we were over at the table where they keep all the food one day when we were filming, and he's just going, yeah, yeah.
I go, oh, you see something you like?
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He's like, yeah, I'm going to eat me some beef jersey.
It ends for you, and you sit back, and you're watching it as it's still on television, you watch some of the guys you worked with, you know, and occasionally they bring you back for some dream sequence.
Together, we've done the same amount of episodes, but he's just at this other level in terms of how people remember him and the character and all that.
I wasn't a big fan of that hospital, the chick wearing makeup and all that.
I'm like, come on, get the fuck out of here with all this.
I thought that was a little ridiculous.
She's way too groomed.
She's on her fucking bicycle every day working out.
Everyone's scared of her.
I didn't buy that at all.
I felt like that chick would have lasted about an hour where somebody punched her in the face, took her gun, shot her in the head, fucked her dead body, threw her off the top of the roof.
She's evil.
Get out of here, you fucking crazy lipstick-wearing cunt.
There's a few guys I didn't- the guy with the eye patch.
Get the fuck out of here.
That guy's a dead- he's dead.
He's not gonna live.
You can't even see shit that's coming from the right side, dude.
Yeah, there was a few bad guys and a few moments that I just thought were ridiculous, but it's the overall quality of the show.
It keeps surprising you, and it keeps drawing you in, and it just keeps making you think, like, what would you do if you were stuck in that kind of a scenario?
Would you just climb to the highest building and just close your eyes and fucking jump off?
And there's no way that it would work if it was non-intrusive.
You know, if you see some people that are fucking starving to death and they find a can of Coke and they drink it and they're sharing it back and forth, it's not going to make you want to go out and buy a Coke.
You know that Coke is fucking warm.
It's Georgia.
You know, they're finding it in someone's garage, covered in fucking bodies.
Did y'all ever see, like, the Honest Trailers, that YouTube channel where they do Honest Trailers of movies and TV shows, and they did one for The Walking Dead where they just, like, pick it apart?
It's hilarious.
But one of the things they were talking about was, like, they were driving around, like, a Hyundai Tucson for a while, and it was always, like, this is the apocalypse, so everything's filthy, there's, like, a gross film on things, but the Hyundai Tucson was, like...
Immaculate.
They're just cruising through the woods in this thing.
Me, personally, I never thought about it.
I was never like, oh, I should go buy a Tucson or something.
But not until I saw that trailer, I was like, oh, I guess that was product placement.
There was one episode, I remember, where we were talking about it.
We were like, why are these cars clean?
I mean, even when it rains, it doesn't really clean your car that good, you know?
I mean, you don't have to fucking have a torrential downpour to do a half-assed job of cleaning your car, because bird shit, dirt, it just kind of gets, like, moved around on it.
I think it's more geared towards women, maybe, because it's very drama kind of.
It's not that guy-ish.
Like, I just watched it because my girlfriend wanted to watch it, and that's the only reason I watched it.
And I kind of got addicted to it, kind of like in a Gilmore Girls kind of way, where you're like, oh, I know all the characters, so it's still fun to watch.
I did a couple episodes of that, and it was kind of neat to be in that world and everything, but it was one of those shows where you kind of hated a bunch of the characters at first, and you liked some others, and then by season three, that reversed.
The people you liked, you now hated, and the people you hated, you now liked.
They kind of went through these crazy evolutions, and you know...
I think kind of like any show, I mean, it has its moments where you're like, okay, maybe I'll skip this episode.
It's kind of boring me or whatever.
But, you know, for the most part, it was pretty interesting.
No, but I mean for I think for women like to have breasts that are that large is probably really...
I know it's really difficult on your back.
I dated a girl who had a breast reduction because her boobs are so big.
She was born just like with really large breasts and her back always hurt and then she got her breasts reduced and she was like it's like the world took a weight off her shoulders.
Don't think about it like that.
But if you have, like, double-E tits, I mean, those are fucking probably like 20 pounds or something.
Because they could have easily had him fight the guy that he fought in the UFC in the movie, but instead they made up some guy, made him fight a white guy.
It was really weird.
He fought Gary Goodrich.
It happened in 1996. It's a fucking historical fact.
But in this stupid fucking movie, it was a different guy, and the UFC took place, like when he was watching it on television, was in like 87 or 88. They fucked with everything in that movie.
They fucked with his accomplishments.
When he went to Foxcatcher Farms or whatever the guy called it, he was already a world champion multiple times.
He was one of the best wrestlers on earth.
And they made it look like he was living in his brother's shadow.
He wasn't.
It's just not true.
And they did that just to add drama to the storyline.
This guy needed his brother there in order to rise.
He's the big dumb ape and his brother's really intelligent and a really good wrestler.
His brother was really good, but he was really good too.
But maybe, I mean, I'm not justifying it, but maybe when there's just millions and millions and millions of dollars on the line, people start overthinking it.
There's too many cooks in the kitchen and, ah, we've got to have them fight a white guy.
But, you know, for something to cost that much, I mean, that raises the expectation so much.
But it's probably because everyone's going, we got all this money invested.
We got to fuck with this.
We got to do this and change that and, you know, whatever, whatever.
So...
It's kind of sad that then, you know, you get a small thing.
I don't want to say Game of Thrones is small, but it's like, you know, how is it that that, like you said, is able to be something so perfect, be something...
Being a Hollywood insider, too, do you get people that are coming up to you now because you're on The Walking Dead and go, hey, man, I got this script.
I mean, if you could just get it to those guys that wrote a speck.
Yeah, I mean, it scares me a little bit, but I just was getting so burned out on it about doing stand-up in L.A. And I would go on the road, and I would love being on the road, and you get to do a real show, and you get to work on new material, and you get to have fun.
And then you come back to L.A., and I was just like, I want to kill myself.
I've seen at the comedy store literally a whole table full of people, especially if you watch in the back, that are just sitting there like this with their arms crossed.
It becomes a human nature thing that we want to, like, pick apart other people and their successes, but it's, like, heightened when you're in Los Angeles and you're just constantly bombarded with people doing what you're setting out to do.
And maybe, you know, you're reminded of your failures and that sort of thing.
You definitely get people that, for some reason, resent you for going to the audition, getting on the show, and they're watching you on television, and they've seen you in real life, and they're like, man, that would've been the perfect show for me.
For the most part, though, the fans have been great, but there are those guys, those people, just like, at least centered in Los Angeles, where you're just like, you know, you encounter them and they are completely negative and, oh, I could have done that, you know, whatever, whatever.
But, you know, when I say I didn't miss it, it's not that, you know, it's not like I was just sitting on my couch.
I was doing something really fun, you know, so I was like, it's not like I had this thing tugging me.
I had like an open invitation to go do the clubs in Atlanta.
When I was living there, and I just never was able to make it.
Most of the American snacks that you buy, like Cheetos and Doritos and all that stuff, they're filled with hydrogenated oils and fucking fats that your body has a really hard time digesting and artificial colors.
Your body's like, what the fuck is the diarrhea?
Your body just has no idea what to do with it all.
Kevin James brought a fucking trailer on one of his movies, and the trailer, it was like a regular big moving trailer, and it was filled with exercise equipment.
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Oh, I thought you were going to say it was like food, man.
He was literally at his skinniest he's ever been in any of his movies.
When he was doing that movie, I was talking to the guy who wrote that and was one of the producers...
And he said every day they would go in, you know, break into his hotel room while he's on set and steal all the, like, food that he had taken from the set.
Squirled away?
Yeah.
And, like, he showed up with suitcases full of junk food.
And they're, like, they had to literally take that stuff away from him so that he wouldn't eat it and, like, yo-yo his weight while they were shooting out of sequence or whatever.
It would be well done if they were Chinese people.
It would be well done if they were Polish.
It's just a good show.
I can't wait until...
Racism stops and dies down to the point where it's no longer addressed.
Because it's so fucking annoying watching shows that are so clearly in response to the brownie points you're going to get, the social brownie points you're going to get for showing diversity.
It's not that diversity was important because it needs to be done.
It's almost like it's done just to kind of like score.
You know, it's done to like, look what we've done.
Look, we've got a woman and she's Asian and she runs the show.
There's a black woman president on our show.
The president of the United States is black and it's a woman on our show.
Two of them are Ohio State, and two of them are pictures from back when they, you know...
One of them is a whole website on blackface.
The history of blackface.
That's where the image comes from.
Okay, so that guy, Buck, was not even...
Oh, he was a black man.
Alright.
Blackface is a weird thing.
You can't do blackface today.
Someone was playing a character at a Halloween party and they put blackface on and they got fired from their job because you can't pretend to be a black person.
You cannot have black person makeup on if you are a white person.
No, I mean, I went to parties and no one ever said anything because I was playing almost like a superhero kind of character, you know, but it was a black face.
What I'm saying is that there was a company, and they had a party, and they had a Halloween party, and this guy showed up in blackface, and they fired him.
And it was this issue, like, come on, man.
He's playing like Mr. T. He had gold chains on and everything, and he put black skin-colored makeup on.
You literally cannot do that.
You can pretend to be from Avatar.
You can pretend to be a lot of things, which you can't pretend to be as a black person.
And when you say this, and I've said this before on the podcast, people will fucking freak out, and the ultra-sensitive social justice warrior types will start tweeting you.
Nothing racial about the powder puff team wearing blackface.
Oh really?
How is there nothing racial?
They're pretending to be a different race than they are.
That's very racial.
That's inherently racial.
There's no way of getting around it.
It's racial.
But here's the thing.
It's not bad to be black, okay?
So why would taking makeup and turning your skin black be bad?
I get there's a racist context to it, but when does that dissolve?
I mean, at one point in time, do we culturally just step back and say, like, that's ridiculous.
Somebody wants to be fucking Mr. T. If you're black, and you're hanging around with a bunch of white people, and they're legitimately your friends, and you love them, and one of them decides to be Mr. T for Halloween, and shows up with a bunch of gold chains, he's got a mohawk on, and he's got blackface on.
Are you going to beat your friend up for being racially insensitive?
I mean, are we really living in that fucking retarded a world where that's such a huge issue?
It just seems...
Racism is disgusting.
Racism is evil.
But someone playing another race by putting makeup on their skin, the only way that would be negative at all, the only way, is if there was something wrong with being that race.
There's clearly nothing wrong with being a black person.
So someone who's white, putting black makeup on, it's not like they're...
It's not like they're doing Al Jolson, and they're putting white around their lips, and black, and they're...
Well, it's such a great way to defuse someone and take all the onus off them.
Take all of the possible scrutiny or criticism that might come their way and point it all at you.
It's also a great way to defuse your argument.
Just call you a racist.
You know, like if you have a different opinion about Ferguson or about, you know, Economics or Al Sharpton or anything that involves a black person, instantaneously your argument's diffused if they call you racist.
Well, Josh McDermott, you're a racist.
Well, you're from Phoenix, Arizona, one of the most racist states.
Well, I mean, it was offensive at one point in time, especially because at one point in time, that was the only way you saw black people represented on TV. It was a white person playing a black person, or in movies.
Or they were slaves, you know?
I mean, you had, like, go back, like, other races, like, go back and watch John Wayne play Genghis Khan.
Jamie, pull it up and put it on this screen so only we see it, so we don't get pulled from YouTube.
If you have videos that people have copyright on them and you play them and then you upload it, even from a podcast where you're talking about it, you play it on YouTube, they pull it.
That sucks.
Yeah, but we'll put it up on here just for the he-he's and the ha-ha's because you've got to see how fucking bad it is.
Because that bitch is probably running stairs every day, doing yoga, getting her face sandblasted, you know, getting stem cells from aborted fetuses sprayed all over her, cheekbones.
I mean, I don't know what she's doing, but whatever she's doing, she needs to write a book.
We had two seasons with George Segal, who was on that show, Just Shoot Me, and then I can't think of the woman's name, Jessica Walter, who was from Archer and Arrested Development.
But if you were like a girl, and like some Mel Gibson type guy, some big Hollywood celebrity guy had parties and had a pool filled with 16-year-old girls and he was banging...
Well, the UFC is in the middle of, I think, three or four class action lawsuits now.
Some of them which...
I just don't understand what they're doing.
Guys that had no chance of ever winning a belt, ever.
They were not that good.
They were marginal fighters at best.
And I don't know what they're suing over.
I don't understand it.
They're suing over...
I think the idea is that somehow or another the UFC stifled competition, but...
According to the people, and obviously I'm only hearing one side of it, but it's going to cost them $25 million to fight it, and they get approached by these lawyers, and while they're going through the whole legal issue of what could be considered...
Anti-competition, what couldn't be.
They start accumulating legal bills, and then once the bills start getting high, then they pull them together, they have a meeting, and they say, look, here's the deal.
And then they make a few million, and then they fucking high-five each other.
They go get some hookers, they drink some wine, and they go, we got another one.
I mean, there's some legit class-action lawsuits.
Most certainly when products fail and people die.
There was one recently with Chevrolet where it turned out that they hid the fact that their ignition switches were fucking up, and a bunch of people had died because of this.
And so there's some legit class-action lawsuits when it comes to certain companies.
When you see like a Bryan Singer type thing, and like, okay, wait a minute, you're gay, right?
You're gay, he's gay.
Okay, you showed up at his house, and there was a bunch of gay dudes, and you're all doing gay stuff?
Okay.
And you want some money?
Like, look, you get dick, that's what you get.
You went to the party, you wanted to get some dick, you got some dick, you probably got some ecstasy too.
Bonus!
Okay, he probably gave you some food, you probably had some snacks.
You can't get away with that kind of shit anymore.
But back in the day, could you imagine if you could go back to the 1950s, the Humphrey Bogart days, what kind of fucking chaos those parties must have been like?
There was no accountability.
The studios totally protected people.
You'd have to have a dead body before shit got weird.
Mine's symptoms was I was on my second, or I just had my second drink, and I ordered a new drink, Took, like, one sip of my third drink, and then everything started getting spinning.
Like, my vision was almost, like, trippy.
Like, I couldn't, like, I was like, why is the room spinning right now?
A bouncer told me what they do is they take a Visine bottle, they fill it with whatever the crap they're using, and they'll just like literally keep it in their hand, walk through, and just drop, like while they walk by somebody's drink, just drop it in there.
And he said that roofing guys, roofing guys is actually, he's seen it before, where like there's a guy talking to a girl they want to talk to, so they'll roofie the guy to get him out of the way.
Like he'll start getting sick or whatever and go to the bathroom and pass out.
I mean, David Arquette was there, so I said hi to David, but there was also some people that I knew there, and I talked to them for a bit, but then I've been replaying it over my head over and over again, and I can't think of...
I can almost think that maybe, what if I just grabbed the wrong drink?
Like, I grabbed a stripper's drink by mistake or something, or...
When people don't use honey, like when I mock vegans, one of the things that I mock, my old special was about how true vegans don't use honey because they don't think it's cool to make those bees work for people.
If you knew that the only way to keep this running, the only way was if you ate healthy by some strange, you know, metaphysical miracle fucking magic thing.
Whereas, like, if you ate healthy food, your luck would continue to be fucking amazing.
But if you got lazy, it has nothing to do with your appearance or your talent.
Or your mind.
But if you got lazy and deviated from the path, your luck would change.
I've seen also there's a lot going around where they boil it in water with those plastic bags.
They boil it at like, not even boil it, it's like hot water, like 125 degree water, which is below boiling.
But they keep it in there for several hours, and then you take it out and sear it.
And a lot of times people, they cook the outside actually with a flame.
They take a propane torch, and they'll char the outside to get that crispy outer edge.
I've tried every single method to cook a regular beef steak.
My favorite by far is lump charcoal on a regular grill.
You get that smoky, real wood taste to the steak.
And you just got to know how hot it is.
It's like a trial and error thing.
You got to know...
For me, I take...
Like a two-inch steak, you need three minutes on each side, and then I put it on the upper level of the grill, I close the lid, and I cook it for another five minutes.
I'm trying to get back into it and then this new computer is finally getting to the point where it's so much the rendering thing was the thing that I hated and the reason that made me stop.
Well, it's funny because you'd think that would be the best computer because I just bought a new computer.
And researching those, you realize that they're using a different processor that isn't really that...
Good for video editing as compared to the i7 processor that the iMacs use.
So if you look at rendering times on one of those machines versus a iMac, the iMac even comes across being faster in a lot of the tests because those use Xeon processors, which aren't really...
No, I mean, it's great, but it is something that also you have to think about, like the sex slave industry thing.
You'll run into places where you're just like, this person does not want to be here.
Like right now where I live, this is one of the craziest things.
I found there's this apartment or this old house next to me and they have like a garage a separate garage out back and just this little small garage and I saw Somebody come out of it the other day and I'm like what the fuck there's why is there some Asian girl in there?
and then like a couple days later Somebody opened up the door and there's like four people living in this little garage about the size of my car and Like, I mean, it's just, it's ridiculous.
We have these weird attachments that are completely socially constructed.
We've decided that these things are bad.
The real issue is that stuff.
Sex slavery.
You're not talking about a woman who's like...
Just a grown woman, a mature woman who decides on her own, you know, it's just sex.
Who gives a shit?
It's a fine way to pay my bills and I can go travel and I'll do whatever the fuck I want with my life and I'll be independent.
It's not, those are not the victims.
The real issue is When you have things illegal, then everything has to be seedy and hidden and, you know, in the darkness and underground, and then you get things like sex slavery.
It's very analogous to the drug war.
One of the real reasons why the drug war exists is because drugs are illegal.
One of the real reasons why there's so much crime in Mexico that's related to the drug trade is directly because drugs aren't legal.
If drugs were legal, you wouldn't have criminals that are selling drugs.
And if criminals weren't selling drugs, you'd be able to buy drugs the same way you go to fucking CVS and buy liquor.
There's no fucking gang wars over whiskey.
It's not happening.
Whiskey's sold, and it's taxed, and everybody seems to be fine.
Other than the fact that people drink it and do stupid shit while they're on it, there's no violence, and no murder, and no crime attached to the production of fine whiskey.
And that's how it should be with sex.
And that's how it should be with everything.
We are adult human beings.
If you want to pay someone to rub your feet, you should be able to do it.
Could you imagine if, like, back massages were somehow or another deemed morally outrageous, and you couldn't go and get a massage?
Like, you know those places at the airport where you sit down, you put your face in that chair, and they come over and rub your back?
What if they sucked your dick?
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I've tried I put a blanket over us Nobody needs to know.
But I mean, if you went to a place like that and they gave you handjobs, it would be the most glorious thing ever.
If you went to that place and there was a beautiful Russian lady and she took you into this quiet room and she just cupped your balls with one hand and jerked you off with the other, while you had an iPad, you're watching porn, it would be the greatest thing ever.
I want to know what's the difference between, like if you go on Backpage and you see they have escorts, then they have legit massages where they bring a table over to your house and they massage you.
Then they have body sliders where it's like they bring a big inflatable raft that you have in a swimming pool and then you get naked and then they put oil over you and they just slide their naked body on you.
And that you're not fucking.
But it's like, is that illegal?
Or like, what makes it, you have to have insertion?
I mean, it just doesn't seem like escorting can be, you can be caught for it.
Because like, if you really, I don't know, it just seems like what's the law with that?
I always find it weird though, like if you have a goober in your mouth and you can feel it, it's one of those thick ones, and then you spit it on a piece of paper, the idea of you now licking that back up is the most grossest thing in the world, but just a second ago you were in your mouth just tasting it and swishing it around.
Well, it's like if you had to take a shit, you know, that's one thing.
You're like, oh, I can't wait to take a shit.
And you get on that toilet, and it comes up.
But if you had to stuff that shit back in your asshole, if you had to reach in there with rubber gloves on and just pack your own ass, repack it, that might be one of the worst things you could ever do.
Well, there's nothing worse than when you have to shit really bad and the only option is a porta potty.
And you're at a concert, and there's 20 people behind you, and there's a long-ass line, and you go in there, and you plop down, and you're shitting on other people's shit that is on top of other people's shit, which is on other people's shit, which is all in Smurf juice.
And you're just dropping logs on top of pre-existing logs, and just gagging.
The whole point of them is you're supposed to close the lid, and then that will take the scent out up through this funnel, like this tube, and release the scent up there.
But the reason porta-potties smell so bad is because everyone just leaves the lid up.
If you can, I mean, well, because a lot of times, because we shoot on location, so everything, it takes a while to get back to, like, your trailer where, like, I have a couch or something I could sleep on, and so it's rare that they would make you sit for that long.
I kept one here and I'm going to have that as long as I'm on the show because I don't know when I'll get killed off and I'm not going to want to go find a new place.
But then there was another guy who literally got it out of Lawrence Gilliard, who plays Bob, the guy who got his leg chopped off and eaten by the cannibals.
He didn't want to sign the lease because he had a feeling he was about to go.
And so he actually got the producers to tell him.
He sat in the meeting with them.
He wouldn't leave until they told him.
Like, yeah, you're going to die in episode three or whatever.
It costs like five bucks to put in a muzzle flash in post-production.
So just keep jerking the gun like you're firing away.
And so I did that.
But then what they do is they had these guys, because we were right next to a cornfield and they had our special effects guys perched on some ladders with these paintball guns with these exploding I don't know, the pellets that kind of spark off.
So when I go and I shoot up the truck, they're actually the ones firing the truck and it just hits on the truck.
So that was really cool because they used to have to run this line of charges or whatever and have those explode at one time.
With that, they had these tubes that were just tied around their neck.
And even everyone on set was going like, oh, this looks totally fake.
And they're like, no, no, no, we'll color that out later.
And the tubes were actually, like, gushing out the blood.
And so when they cut, you know, so they do the motion to cut, and I think they either had, like, a rubber knife, or a lot of times they have a knife that's just the handle with some, like, green tape on the end in it, so it's not a full knife or machete sort of thing.
And then they paint that in later.
Oh, the knife is CGI. Yeah, so, like, if I got this water bottle and there's no blade on the end of it, I just use that, and then they can just paint that in and make it look like a knife as I cut my throat.
So cool.
And then they just painted out the tube so that all that was left was just blood gushing out into the trough.
It was almost too over the top because it was like, God, I can't see anybody that I know getting to that point where they club someone and turn them into a steak.
That's one of the things that I didn't understand about the prison when everybody was like, you know, all these zombies are pushing up against that wall.
Yeah, you're already infected, which is weird, because when the guy got bit last night, that episode, he got bit, but if he just cauterizes that wound, does he become a zombie?
Well, they've been fucking with the rules since the beginning, even in the pilot.
Because zombies aren't supposed to have any sort of recollection of them being normal humans.
Yeah.
There was like a little girl at that gas station who walks by and just bends down and picks up her little teddy bear that was hers and tucks it up and walks away.
So he hosts it, and they just talk all about sharks and all this stuff.
And this guy comes on, and he had this chainmail suit that is supposedly bite-proof.
And they were stabbing...
Josh was wearing it.
They were stabbing him with a knife, and the knife was bending...
And they were trying to stab him in the chest, but the guy was showing us how, you know, you can just take a knife and he had the glove on and he was slicing like the webbing in between his fingers.
And everyone's like, oh my god, oh whatever.
And then they gave me an ice pick and he put his hand out and kind of like that movie Alien, I had to go in between his fingers.
And do that.
And they told me beforehand, they go, go ahead and like, you know, pop him in the hand a few times because he's not going to, it's not going to hurt him or anything.
And so I did that.
And then I just started just jamming the ice pick into his hand.
What do you think, though, with, like, you know, Silva was injured and they were saying that maybe the doctor that he was working with has had a past of, you know, over-prescribing, you know, amounts of steroids or legal steroids.
I guess in the past, this other fighter was like, yeah, he was approved to use this kind of steroid or something like that for an injury, and he gave me too much, which caused me to be like seven months of being penalized out of the UFC. I forget this fighter's name, but he says that's what's happened to Silva.
Silva, he's been fighting since 17. He's never touched steroids.
He's been working this injury, and it might just be that, right?
But another issue is there was a TV show they did a long time ago back from Anderson's house.
And one of the things they saw in the background was pen tips for Nordotropin.
It was on the shelf, a very specific box that has pen tips.
Nordotropin is a type of human growth hormone pen, and you take this human growth hormone and you inject it in someone's body.
And so, that might not have been his, so who knows?
UFC fighter claims some doctor who screwed up his TRT has now victimized Anderson Silva.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Listen, you can't listen to these guys, though, because there's a lot of...
Yeah, see, Bigfoot, you know, he...
He's blaming a doctor for him taking an abnormally high dose of testosterone.
May be true, may not be true, but it's within his best interest to say that the doctor is at fault and it's not his fault.
The doctor said he was going to sue him because the doctor's like, you know, you're lying, I didn't do anything unethical or outrageous to you, and everything you wanted me to do I did for you.
But Anderson was coming back from a broken leg, and he tested positive for, the way I understand it, metabolites, which means it was leaving his system.
It was a very trace amount.
If that is the case, it could very well be that he got on some steroids so that he could heal up quicker.
Because what steroids do is they allow you to recover quicker.
So if he's 39 years old and he broke his fucking leg, you're talking about a long-ass period of recovery.
Or you take steroids and you recover in 9 months instead of 15 months or fill in the blank with whatever the real number is.
So that could be what was going on, but the reality is it's illegal.
You can't do it.
If it takes you 15 months, the excuse cannot be, oh, I'm going to give you some illegal drugs so that you heal quicker.
This is the only reason why you take these drugs.
Don't worry about it.
You'll be fine.
No, you're never allowed to take steroids.
Because one of the things that happens when you take steroids is it creates permanent changes in your muscles.
Depending upon the steroid permanent changes permanent like your your muscle density and your tendon strength and various attributes of your muscles It's been proven that some of the benefits of steroids continue permanently So it's not just when you're on them you're fucking the Hulk because a lot of these guys Especially back in the day when they were fighting in pride like they I had Ensign Inouye, who was on the podcast, who was a fighter from Pride, who was totally clean, who said it was on his fucking contract.
They said on the contract, we will not test you for steroids.
They said on the contract, encouraged guys to take steroids.
Let's imagine, you know, they're doing all these weird things now with genetics where they're taking like a fucking mouse and they're growing a human ear on its back and then, you know, taking that human ear and inserting it in a person.
We're doing all this weird shit with people.
If they take Josh McDermott and they add one-tenth of one percent rhino genes and all of a sudden you're fucking running through brick walls and...
Are you even a person anymore?
If you get off that drug but you retain a fraction of that ability, whatever the fraction is, it's arguable that a person who takes steroids, especially prolonged steroid use over a long career of fighting, you know, you've fought for 15 years, been taking steroids for 15 years, You're not really technically the same as you would ever be without those steroids.
You're another category.
Coca-Cola has a certain amount of ingredients.
This is a bad analogy, I know.
But if you look at the ingredients of Coca-Cola and you add tequila, that is not fucking Coca-Cola anymore.
Should you be able to serve that Coca-Cola tequila out of a Coke machine?
No, you should not, because people are looking for Coke.
Now, human beings vary widely biologically, so it's not the best analogy, but the reality is, especially as this whole steroid epidemic is one thing we have to recognize.
The use of steroids is less than 100 years old.
Less than 100 years old in steroids and athletics.
I mean, I don't know what the fuck they were taking in the 1940s if they had anything.
Amphetamines have always been an issue with baseball.
Amphetamines and stimulants and things that increase your ability to concentrate and your ability to stay awake.
There's always been substances that people have taken, but the actual use of anabolic steroids in human beings is relatively recent in human history.
And I think that as time goes on, they're going to create more and more powerful and crazier shit, and it's going to get to the point where you're going to test negative because you're not on it anymore, but your body will forever be changed.
Like, girls will be in denial about having a fake butt.
Oh my god, it's totally my butt.
Because they can take the fat, suck it out of your thighs, pack it in your ass, and it stays in your ass now.
It stays forever.
When you gain weight, your ass gains weight.
When you lose weight, your ass loses weight.
But your ass will always have more fat than it ever did before because you literally pack fat in there, and people can lie about it.
I got that scar.
I fell on a swing when I was little.
You're going to have men that are like that.
You're going to take a guy, and you're going to give him a shot, and he's going to turn into the fucking Hulk, and then that shot's going to wear off, and his body's going to stay the same.
And it's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
They're on their way.
There's all sorts of...
Like this thing that Hector Lombard got popped for today, I've never even heard of this shit before.
They're calling it DMT, which is obviously not dimethyltryptamine, but it's...
LAUGHTER Tribulus is just a root, and it very mildly enhances your body's production of testosterone.
There's another one called Tongat Ali that has a similar effect that's also like a plant-based substance that mildly enhances your body's ability to...
But it doesn't fuck with the production of it.
The thing about steroids is, what happens is, like, you take something and it just jacks your body's levels of testosterone.
So then your body's natural production of testosterone shuts down.
And that's why, like, when I took that Mag10 stuff, like, after I got off of it, my body was like, yeah, dude, I'm not really feeling, like, fucking, we're just gonna, we'll just take a little break here.
You should just buy them at stores because they were like these loopholes.
Like, you know how bath salts exist?
Do you know the whole story behind it?
It exists, for folks who don't know, because you would take something like crystal meth, which is an absolutely illegal drug, but if you change just one compound, one molecule of that compound, just alter it slightly, and then sell it, no one can say it's illegal because it's not illegal.
It's not the same thing anymore.
If meth is illegal and then you just tweak it a little bit, like dimethyltryptamine was turned, this is the psychedelic drug, was made illegal in 1970 by the sweeping psychedelic act of 1970. But they missed 5-methoxy dimethyltryptamine, which is actually stronger.
This is NN dimethyltryptamine and then 5-methoxy dimethyltryptamine.
5-methoxy dimethyltryptamine is like Dimethyltryptamine, like an oxygen molecule attached to it or something like that.
So it's just slightly different, but legal.
But if you'd smoked it, you would go to the center of the fucking universe and converge with God in the most epic journey of your life.
I mean, it's like way stronger than mushrooms.
I mean, if you took a good breakthrough dose of 5-MeO-DMT, it'll change you for the rest of your fucking life.
And that was legal.
And it was only legal because it wasn't technically dimethyltryptamine, which was illegal.
So that's what this bath salts thing is.
They alter the compound slightly, and then they sell it not for human consumption.
They say bath salts, and then they sell it at grocery stores or, I mean, you know, 7-Elevens or wherever they want to sell it.
Gas stations, mostly, I think.
And they can get away with doing that because it's not technically the same drug.
And they just keep altering it.
Keep tweaking it a little bit here and tweaking it a little bit there with varying results too, which gets really weird.
The difference between DMT and 5-MeO DMT is profound in the effects.
5-MeO is stronger, but there's no visual experience.
The visual is just pure white, and it's like white molecules, like fractal white around you.
It doesn't have the visual effect of NN-dimethyltryptamine.
NN-dimethyltryptamine, which is what...
What ayahuasca is based on.
It's very hallucinogenic.
The things you see, the visuals are spectacular.
The colors are amazing.
All those things are missing from 5-MeO, which is like kissing cousins to the same drug.
I think one of the things that's wrong with basalts is that Some of them, you know, you tweak it one way or another, and especially on different individuals, they have biodiversity in the way they respond to different drugs.
You have varying effects, like that fucking dude who ate that dude's face off.
I was talking to someone the other day, I don't remember who, but I was just like, yeah, he'll start saying something and just like 10 minutes later you're just like, I don't even remember what you said.
There was so much information you just threw at me.
And it's not like you're like, because for me, I'm always like, yeah, so then there's this one drug and it's like five and something.
But anyway, no, you like, I don't know when you learned about all this, but I guarantee it was a while ago and you still can recall it like that.
I remember things that I learned that I thought was fascinating.
But if I didn't care, my brain only works for shit I care about.
I'm completely reckless in that regard.
I didn't plan for the future at all.
Never graduated college.
Never thought about it.
Never like, man, I need to figure out a way to get a real job.
Nope.
Nope, not going to do it.
From the jump, I went to college for three years completely just so that people didn't think I was a loser.
That's the only reason why I went.
Barely paid attention.
I went to UMass Boston and just fucking half-assed it.
I didn't even take my SATs because I went out of college.
I took a year off and I was like, well, eventually I'll take my SATs.
I'll go to school.
I'll get a degree.
I was a bullshit myself.
And then a year later, I was like, I've got to do something.
I can't keep telling people that I'm eventually going to go back to college.
So I started going, UMass Boston had this continuing education program where you didn't even have to have SAT scores.
You just had to have not failed high school, I guess.
I don't remember how it exactly went.
But I was wasting my time.
I was just going and half-assing it.
And then three years in, I think they told me I couldn't come back because my grades are really bad.
So I remember I bullshitted and wrote this really eloquent response.
And I wrote it all out and I was going to send it in.
And then I read it and I was like, if I put half as much effort into school as I did to bullshitting them with this really eloquent letter that I'm writing about, I don't If you want to go to school, then I feel like, I gotta stop.
Just stop.
I am not gonna get a fucking normal job.
My parents are completely disappointed in me, but it's okay.
I'm already out of the house, so let's just run with this.
They didn't want me doing anything that I ever did, so let me just keep going.
So the things that I'm interested in, like back then, if you asked me questions about Taekwondo, which is what I was obsessed with back then.
I would be able to tell you everything, where it started, who created it, who invented this technique, who was first successful with this technique, when they changed the variability of how you use your hips.
There's one style that does it this way, another style does it that way.
This is the benefits of this, this is the benefits of that.
I would be able to rattle off anything about things that I was interested in.
I have an OCD, obsessive, weird brain, but it's not a good brain for It's not a good brain for remembering to pay your bills.
It's not a good brain for, like, if I had a job and, you know, you've got to show effort to be a part of this company.
I would stay up and watch Tonight Show, Johnny Carson, and I'd watch Letterman, and then I would watch whatever was after that, and then go to bed like four in the morning, wake up at six, Go to school, sleep in every single class.
I have several teachers in my family, and it's very frustrating to see the struggles that they go through and not having enough money in the budget to buy the frickin' materials they need to teach the kids the curriculum.
One of the things that drives me fucking bananas is this idea that kids that are bored in class have a disease.
He's got ADHD, OCD. He's got something.
He's not sitting.
You're not supposed to sit!
Okay, little kids are supposed to be playing, and they have energy.
Dude, I have little kids, and my six-year-old, she's a fucking bundle of energy.
They literally will run around the house screaming.
The six and the four.
They get together and they go, Ah!
And they just run.
It's like they have a flame inside them they need to burn off.
And you make a little kid sit in a class and pay attention.
Pay attention, Joshua.
Joshua, up here on the board.
I want your eyes up here.
And you're like, oh my god, I've got to get out of here.
Your body's freaking out.
Your body is literally freaking out.
You just want to get the Get the fuck out of here!
And meanwhile, you got a video game in your pocket you want to play, or you got a fucking comic book you want to read that's way more stimulating and interesting than this horse shit.
This fucking lady's talking to you in Spanish.
We're in America, bitch!
Okay?
No, no, no, no!
I don't want to hear it!
I don't want to hear it!
I gotta get out of here!
And that's most kids through high school.
You're fucking, whether it's math or English or fucking history, you don't want to be doing that right then.
And, you know, the idea is that they're going to teach you discipline.
You're going to sit there.
No, they're going to turn you into a goddamn zombie.
That's what they're going to do.
They're going to turn you into a cubicle zombie.
And if you let them, they will do it.
Or if you resist, you can find your way out of the system.
But the idea that you're not intelligent unless you follow this ridiculous curriculum that turns you into a worker bee is fucking stupid.
It's a stupid, shitty plan that they've been following for a long fucking time.
And it doesn't work on everybody.
You're different than me.
I'm different than you.
We're fucking different.
And every kid needs a different approach to absorbing information.
And you're going to have interests that I don't have.
You know, like we're talking about video editing.
If I had to go to fucking school or I had to become a video editor, I'm not interested in it.
It's not...
I have no fascination.
Like if you had to become a professional pool player, you have no fascination with it.
It's like you...
We all vary in our personality, in our...
Life experiences and in what we're attracted to.
And some people are going to be attracted to different things.
I believe that children should absolutely learn the basic building blocks.
Every kid should learn how to write.
You should learn how to read.
You should learn how to count.
You should learn about the important facets of history.
Agreed!
Everyone.
But the idea that every fucking kid should follow the same curriculum in the same way.
And how come nobody ever takes kids that are fucking antsy or that crack jokes all the time Nobody ever pulls him aside and goes, hey man, you should be a fucking comic.
I don't do it because I hope someone's going to make a video out of it.
I do it because I'm frustrated.
I'm frustrated by people that I know that are just living in hell.
I know too many people that just, they've been lied to.
And they don't have anybody around them that tells them any different.
They don't have anybody around them that tells them, man, there's a lot of paths in this life.
There's a lot of people that start their own businesses.
There's a lot of people that sell art or become landscapers or do things that they enjoy or become hunting guides or become someone who takes people on hiking tours.
There's a lot There's a lot of fucking different things to do in this life.
And everyone gets lumped into these same paths and they're just shoving us in like fucking cattle into these packed in paths where everybody wants to put that stupid hat on with the tassels.
I got my paper that says I'm not retarded.
It's fucking crazy, man.
And you die just like everybody else dies.
You live and you die.
All you're supposed to be trying to do is make enough money to get by and be happy with what you're doing.
The woman told me I was too stupid to go to college and then I shouldn't think about going into the military, which pissed me off because, you know, that's stupid.
You know, and it's like, I... I thankfully kind of figured it out on my own, but how many people don't really figure it out that they just take that advice and go, oh shit, well I guess I should go learn to be a mechanic.
Look, the world needs mechanics.
I get that.
But you can't just tell someone that's their lot in life because they're too stupid or something.
I mean, there's some mechanics that are very brilliant.
This is the idea that this woman can do that to you.
It's so disappointing that that person, if that was my fucking kid, I would scream at that lady.
If you came home and, you know, you told me that some lady told you you were too stupid to go to college and you had to be a mechanic or a fucking soldier, I would scream at that lady.
I would want her fired.
I'm like, you fucking monster.
Like, you know, you're planting seeds in these kids.
You're telling a child they're too dumb.
How smart are you that you got fat and you're working as a guidance counselor?
I know if I came home and told my dad that, you know, I didn't, but I know if I did, he probably just would have been, well, what branch do you want to go into?
Like, that would have been his response, you know?
Yeah, my stepfathers thought for sure I was going to be like a fucking construction worker or something.
They didn't have a lot of faith in me.
But when you're coming home with all shit grades, they knew I was good at drawing.
So like there's thoughts that I would be an artist.
But then when I wasn't even into art, and once I started to get into martial arts, I wasn't even into art anymore.
So there's this transitionary period between the age of 15 to like 17 where there wasn't a lot of shit going on in my life where they were really worried about me.
Then I started winning all these Taekwondo tournaments and they were like, okay, he's doing something good.
But even then they were worried about that and it was totally discouraging.
They never saw me fight once.
I probably fought.
I probably had a hundred amateur fights and my parents never saw one of them.
He was just this pot-bellied dummy that had given up on life.
He was just, this is this guy.
This is my impression of my art teacher in high school.
That's how he was.
That was his energy.
And he didn't like me.
He didn't like me because I had a lot of energy.
I was dynamic.
I wanted to just fucking run through walls.
I mean, I was wired when I was a kid.
And everything I would draw was like dragons eating villages, and it was all like fucking people running for their lives, getting hacked to death by swords.
I was an angry kid, and I drew a lot of crazy shit.
It's one of his new bits about Notorious B.I.G. When Biggie was young, he had this rap, to all the teachers who told me I ain't gonna grow up to be shit.
I don't want to say anymore because it's a really funny joke and I don't want to give any of the joke away, but he has this whole bit about these teachers telling him that he wasn't gonna be shit, that Notorious B.I.G. wasn't gonna be shit.
I just read something online about one of the writers was at a dinner party and they were talking to him about all the crazy shit that was inserted into the show, the polar bears or whatever.
There's so many things that didn't tie up.
At the end, and he said, yeah, we never had any intention of justifying it.
It was just, we were literally throwing in whatever.