Nov. 5, 2013 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience is brought to you by Lumosity. | ||
| We have a new website that you can go to, a new direction, lumosity.com forward slash Joe. | ||
| And if you go to Lumosity, they'll explain everything, but what it basically is, is like a gym for your brain. | ||
| What Lumosity is, is a bunch of cool games that are designed to enhance your focus, enhance your memory, and you can custom tutor them for yourself. | ||
| Tutor? | ||
| Custom tutor? | ||
| Custom tabulate? | ||
| What's the word I'm looking for? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I've been sick all week, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I got the flu when I gave out all that blood. | ||
| I'll talk to Dave Asprey about it. | ||
| I gave out about a quart of blood. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Oh, so you maybe got your immune system up or something? | ||
| Oh, it definitely did. | ||
| I was sick, and I gave out all that blood, and then boom, it hit me. | ||
| Anyway, what Lumosity is, is a website that's designed around the concept of neuroplasticity and all the different objectives that you want to achieve. | ||
| Like memory, you can tailor it specifically. | ||
| That was the word I'm looking for. | ||
| Like recalling the location of objects, remembering the names after the first introductions, which I fucking suck at. | ||
| Learning new subjects quickly and accurately. | ||
| And then once you fill all those out, then you move into attention. | ||
| There's a bunch of different options for attention, things like maintaining focus on important tasks, improving productivity, concentrating while you're learning something new. | ||
| All these things they believe they can actually improve upon and design it based on your needs, whatever you're looking for. | ||
| Things that you wouldn't even think about. | ||
| Like there's a whole area called flexibility. | ||
| I've never even thought about that as far as like thinking, but it's actually pretty important if you really stop and think about it. | ||
| Like flexibility is kind of important. | ||
| You can't just be smart. | ||
| You can't just be crisp. | ||
| You have to kind of be able to go with the flow on things. | ||
| And that's something that you can work on using Lumosity software. | ||
| Communicating clearly, thinking outside the box, avoiding errors. | ||
| It's a fascinating idea because I know for sure that there are certain things, whether it's podcasting or stand-up comedy or commentating on fights. | ||
| I really honestly believe that when I take time off of those things and I'm not doing them for a while, it's almost like it gets lax. | ||
| Like my ability to perform those tasks, it just atrophies, just like your muscles do when you don't go to a gym. | ||
| So go to lumosity.com forward slash Joe and check out what their website is. | ||
| Check out the way they've got it set up. | ||
| It's really fascinating. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| They're all games that you could play as opposed to just like sitting around just doing math problems. | ||
| This is actually, it makes it very interesting. | ||
| I've been playing the games at lumosity.com for a few weeks, and they're fun and they're quick, and I see some sort of a difference in my ability. | ||
| I'm definitely seeing a difference in my ability to perform those games. | ||
| But I think that that's, I think if you focus on stuff, you see a difference. | ||
| I mean, it's not magic. | ||
| It's one of those things where it gives you an opportunity to work out your brain, just like a gym gives you an opportunity to work out your body. | ||
| So check out this special offer, lumosity.com slash Joe, and click on the start training button and start playing your first game. | ||
| That's lumosity.com slash Joe. | ||
| You can play anywhere from your computer, iPad, iPhone. | ||
| There's a Lumosity app, so go check it out. | ||
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Dod? | |
| I don't know how you would say that. | ||
| That dude. | ||
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| Alrighty then. | ||
| We're also brought to you by Ting Mobile. | ||
| And Dave Asprey actually listened to us and got himself a sleek Ting phone. | ||
| What'd you get? | ||
| Which model did you get? | ||
| I got the new Samsung S4. | ||
| Oh, you got that one? | ||
| I got the Galaxy Note 3. | ||
| See, I wish I'd thought of that one because that one seems cooler. | ||
| It's bigger. | ||
| I've got phone in. | ||
| It might be too big because yours is pretty big. | ||
| Yours isn't small. | ||
| The S4, that's probably like the right size. | ||
| I'm being a glutton. | ||
| Yeah, it's a legitimate phone, and the service is $100 a month cheaper than my old AT ⁇ T. It really is. | ||
| It's so much cheaper. | ||
| It's ridiculously cheaper. | ||
| Well, Ting has been, the results that we've gotten from Ting, they've been probably our most universally applauded company. | ||
| Everybody who's used it has said it's fantastic. | ||
| They use a Sprint backbone. | ||
| If you like Sprint, Diaz has been using Sprint forever. | ||
| Joey uses it. | ||
| He loves it. | ||
| And it's not like they use some Mickey Mouse network. | ||
| It's an excellent network. | ||
| And what they're doing is they just basically rent space and then use their own rules. | ||
| And their rules are better. | ||
| What they're trying to do is set it up so that you can cancel anytime you want. | ||
| They have the best Android phones that you could buy, like what Brian showed up there, the Samsung Galaxy Note 3, which is what I have, or the Galaxy S4, which is what Dave has. | ||
| They have all sorts of other phones too, though. | ||
| All high-end Android phones, which I use full-time now. | ||
| I gave up on the iPhone. | ||
| Fucking little screen, you go suck it. | ||
| They even have used phones on Tings. | ||
| So if you want just a cheap, here's a phone for $123. | ||
| It's an HTC Evo 4G. | ||
| Yeah, they have some other ones too. | ||
| They even sell flip phones and goofy shit. | ||
| No contracts. | ||
| That's their big thing. | ||
| They want to make sure that you can buy a phone, have your service with Ting, and then if you decide tomorrow you don't want to do it anymore, that's it. | ||
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| No overage charges or penalties. | ||
| Like most cell phone companies charge you if you go over your allocated minutes, text, data, all that stuff. | ||
| But if you have a heavier month with Ting, you just pay for what you used. | ||
| They make it as fair as possible, including if you spend, like if you have one level of service, but you go below that, they knock you down to the lower level and credit you on your next bill. | ||
| It's a really cool company. | ||
| Ting will break your rates out by minutes, text messages, megabytes, and they'll bill you at the end of the month for what you've used. | ||
| It's a sweet company. | ||
| It's very ethical. | ||
| And again, the service is still excellent. | ||
| You can get all these things and still have a sprint network behind you. | ||
| Look at my bill. | ||
| Here's my bill right now. | ||
| 23 days. | ||
| My total is $25. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty sweet. | ||
| The reality of most people, what you're using and what you, you know, like what minutes, like how many minutes there are per month. | ||
| And most people aren't even calling anybody anymore. | ||
| And you're always on Wi-Fi. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of that. | ||
| No bundling or ride-along services. | ||
| And you can check it out on the Ting website. | ||
| It's pretty good at how they've got it all structured so you could figure out what you would save. | ||
| But if you go to rogan.ting.com, it's actually kind of interesting. | ||
| They've got it set up where they'll show you all their different websites, all their different phones that are selling on their website. | ||
| It says it's not Joe. | ||
| Is it Rogan? | ||
| This is what's confusing me right now. | ||
| What's our, did they give me the wrong one? | ||
| Well, you said Rogan.tang.com. | ||
| Rogan.ting.com. | ||
| What did I do? | ||
| Did I try to do Joe? | ||
| I really have too many of these fucking things. | ||
| We go over this over and over again. | ||
| I wish everybody could have the same code. | ||
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Just do both. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Rogan.ting.com is the actual website. | ||
| You know what you should have? | ||
| You should have a portal, and it's just a website that shows all your sponsors so that they could just go to that one page and see all your sponsors, all your codes, all your links. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Let me make it for you? | ||
| Yes, it's probably a good idea. | ||
| 98% of people would save money with Ting. | ||
| If you look at their website, it shows $21 is the average monthly bill per device for Ting customers. | ||
| That's delicious. | ||
| $440 is the average annual savings per device. | ||
| And again, you don't lose anything. | ||
| You still get awesome Android phones, HTC One. | ||
| They have, like I said, the full range of Galaxy phones. | ||
| They also, if you join their Facebook page, they have specials on there, and they're beta testing the iPhone right now on it. | ||
| So I think the iPhone 4 and 4S is what they're starting off at. | ||
| But you can get a cheap iPhone, get it on Ting. | ||
| How about the iPhone can go suck it? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| I'm done with you and your scrawny screen. | ||
| You've been Chinsey with me for too long. | ||
| Is Chinsey a safe one to say? | ||
| That's not racist in any way, right? | ||
| It doesn't indicate. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't indicate. | ||
| It just means cheap. | ||
| I don't think it's changed. | ||
| I know, but it seems like one you might get in trouble with and not realize. | ||
| And then the Chinsi people come after you, like, we are from the country of Chinsey. | ||
| I mean, there's like gypsy. | ||
| You can't say somebody gypped me because gypsies will get pissed off. | ||
| You used to say that all the time. | ||
| Oh, I got gypped. | ||
| You can't say that. | ||
| You know, you can't say Jew down. | ||
| You can't say he jewed me down the money. | ||
| You cannot say that. | ||
| Even though it's like a smart thing to do, to be frugal. | ||
| In Ohio, I didn't know that Jude was a bad word. | ||
| And my boss was Jewish. | ||
| And I was like, oh, that customer's mad because I jewed him or she thought I jewed him. | ||
| And he goes, did you say Jude him? | ||
| I'm Jewish, Brian. | ||
| And like, I didn't even know what a Jew was. | ||
| Because in Ohio, you only had white. | ||
| You might be the dumbest guy that's ever lived. | ||
| Seriously, like, there's not, like in Columbus, I remember the first time we saw a Mexican. | ||
| We were like, what are those guys? | ||
| I thought Mexicans have been in Ohio for a long time. | ||
| No, they got their. | ||
| Jamie's disagreeing with you, and he's also from Ohio. | ||
| He's also young. | ||
| I'm 40. | ||
| Yeah, that doesn't matter. | ||
| I think it's your brain. | ||
| I think you need to go to a doctor. | ||
| Dave's going to help you. | ||
| We're going to talk about that on the podcast. | ||
| There's something he needs to eat, like avocados or something. | ||
| You're missing out on something. | ||
| Anyway, rogan.ting.com. | ||
| Go check it out and save $25 off your first Ting device when you sign up. | ||
| So Rogan.ting.com. | ||
| We are also brought to you by Onit.com. | ||
| That's O-N-N-I-T. | ||
| A lot of new shit at Onit, including the zombie kettlebells. | ||
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| If it's not, it's going to fuck up your workouts. | ||
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| But concentrate on form. | ||
| It's so important. | ||
| Because if you use proper form, you can get by with a lot without getting injured. | ||
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| And that's why we started carrying the Bulletproof Coffee Line of products as well. | ||
| Because we felt like this is the best shit that we could find online. | ||
| The best Himalayan sea salt, the best hemp protein powder, whatever we could find. | ||
| If it's good, we try to sell it. | ||
| And we try to sell it to you at a reasonable price. | ||
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| Fool me once, shame on you. | ||
| So go to onit.com and use the code word Rogan and save yourself 10% off any and all supplements. | ||
| Brian just pulled up Digest Tech, which is our newest product. | ||
| And really interesting stuff. | ||
| Digest Tech is something that a lot of people don't consider when they talk about nutrition and what you take into your body. | ||
| The real big one is how much is your body utilizing of these nutrients? | ||
| Is it 100%? | ||
| Is it 50%? | ||
| Is it somewhere in the middle? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| And for a lot of people, they don't know that digestive enzymes are something that you can buy that actually can help your body absorb more nutrients. | ||
| It's a really important thing as far as how much you take into your body. | ||
| You can't just eat shit food and pop in a multivitamin, right? | ||
| It's not going to help. | ||
| You need a lot of different things to keep your body working at the optimum. | ||
| And until you experience that, until you experience what it's like to have a really healthy diet and a really good workout routine and continue it for a long period of time and then reap the benefits, like, wow, my body's moving better. | ||
| My brain feels better. | ||
| I just feel like a more elevated person. | ||
| I feel like I'm optimized. | ||
| That's what we're trying to achieve over it on it. | ||
| And these digestive enzymes are the latest and greatest of the things that we are selling. | ||
| One of them is the digest tech, the idea is we're putting like what we would call a professional grade natural digestive enzyme combinatory pill. | ||
| And inside this pill represents the most powerful digestive enzyme combinations on the market today. | ||
| Increasing the natural enzyme levels in the stomach not only helps break down the food faster, but eases bloating and any discomfort associated with eating a large meal. | ||
| And I know you fat fucks are out there chowing down. | ||
| This will help. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Pop in a few digestive enzymes. | ||
| It'll help your body break things down better. | ||
| Is this like the yogurt or the stuff, the live culture that you keep in your refrigerator? | ||
| Is that somewhere in the same kind of ball? | ||
| No, what you're talking about is acidophilus. | ||
| And acidophilus is a probiotic. | ||
| That's just for healthy skin, healthy skin flora, and for healthy certain amount of healthy bacteria that you actually want in your body. | ||
| And acidophilus is a really good one. | ||
| With this, digestive enzymes are what you normally get in food. | ||
| You know, like one of the issues that a lot of people have with milk, like the reason why raw milk is so much more easy to digest for most people than pasteurized and homogenized milk is because it still has the digestive enzymes in it. | ||
| They're not broken down by the pasteurization process. | ||
| The pasteurization process is great because it allows cities to get milk and allows people to get nutrition that, you know, you're dealing with mass numbers of people. | ||
| Food lasts longer. | ||
| It takes a long time to get stuff like into New York City and LA and what have you. | ||
| But the reality is you're killing the food in order to do that. | ||
| That's the only way you can get milk to last a month. | ||
| You're killing it. | ||
| You're killing all the enzymes. | ||
| You're killing all the life in the food. | ||
| When you get milk from a farm, it doesn't taste anything like that shit we buy in stores. | ||
| What we buy in stores tastes like this weird water. | ||
| But what you get, like when you get a cold glass of milk from a farm that came out of a cow that morning, whoa, that fucking thing's alive, man. | ||
| There's a lot of aspects to food. | ||
| There's a lot of aspects that people don't consider. | ||
| And a big one is enzymes. | ||
| And if you go to onit.com forward slash digest tech, they'll do a much better job of explaining why you should incorporate digestive enzymes into your diet. | ||
| But I can't recommend them enough. | ||
| Hey, Joe. | ||
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Hey, Dave. | |
| On the bulletproof diet. | ||
| Oh, you motherfucker. | ||
| You started with the first sentence. | ||
| You went bulletproof. | ||
| Just hoping you were going to hang in there for like at least an hour. | ||
| This is about digest tech. | ||
| I recommend that people take lipase because it helps you digest fat, and most people don't get enough fat in, and that's one of the main ingredients there. | ||
| So I'm not trying to plug the diet. | ||
| I'm just saying this is the good stuff. | ||
| I really do think people perform better when they take digestive enzymes. | ||
| So that's a rocket new product. | ||
| And besides lipase, there's 14 other powerful digestive aids. | ||
| And you're going to love it. | ||
| It's fantastic stuff. | ||
| Onit.com. | ||
| Use the code word Rogan and go fuck yourself. | ||
| All right, ladies and gentlemen, Dave Asprey is here. | ||
| We're going to get bulletproof. | ||
| We're going to get down. | ||
| We're going to get gritty. | ||
| We're going to be Kevlar up in this bitch. | ||
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Kevlar. | |
| Joe Rogan Podcast. | ||
| The Joe Rogan experience. | ||
| Train by day. | ||
| Joe Rogan podcast by night. | ||
| All day. | ||
| Dave Asprey. | ||
| Dave Asprey's here and he's hooked up to a goddamn machine already. | ||
| Walks in the door showing us his heart rate, his penis rigidity, all that. | ||
| It's all taken down. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Is that an application that you have? | ||
| Yeah, it's called HR VSense. | ||
| It's a new app here. | ||
| It shows you your heart rate and your heart rate variability. | ||
| It'll track all day long what your stress is. | ||
| So you can see which meetings, like with your boss or someone. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, so it tells you what time it was up and down. | ||
| It gives you like a chart. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Wow, that's pretty dope. | ||
| It also tells you when you're overtrained. | ||
| It can get your HRV in the morning, and then you can see if it doesn't change the way it should throughout the day. | ||
| You know you're getting too much exercise. | ||
| You need to back off, recover, and then hit it hard the next day. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| That's a big one that a lot of folks are not aware of, especially like these dudes that are into CrossFit and all that kind of wackiness. | ||
| There's a good thing in that for sure. | ||
| There's a good thing working really hard and training really hard, but you've got to give your body a chance to recover. | ||
| And if you don't, you get behind the eight ball, and then your body starts to degress. | ||
| You start to lose conditioning, and you can get injured. | ||
| Happens to a lot of young fighters. | ||
| A lot of young fighters overtrain. | ||
| Even older fighters. | ||
| Junior Dos Santos overtrained for his Kane Velasquez rematch so much that he got rhobdomyolysis. | ||
| Is that how you say it? | ||
| I don't even know that one. | ||
| That's the one that those CrossFitter dudes get all the time. | ||
| It's where your muscle breakdown is actually getting into your bloodstream. | ||
| It can cause kidney failure. | ||
| It's just because you have smashed your muscles so bad, they've become like jello and they're just oozing poison into your fucking bloodstream. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you got to give yourself a chance to recover. | ||
| It's not a matter, it's simple matter of will over your body. | ||
| It's will along with science. | ||
| Like, can you push yourself to the 100% potential? | ||
| Most people don't even get there. | ||
| Most people don't get to the over-training part. | ||
| It's real psychos that get to the over-training part. | ||
| Most people don't even get there. | ||
| But the over-training part, use something like this, use a heart rate monitor, check yourself in the morning, things along those lines. | ||
| It will save so many people so much heartache. | ||
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Especially people who listen to this show, those are the people with a lot of will. | |
| They really, they care about this stuff. | ||
| So if you have a lot of will, you're more likely to smash your muscles like that. | ||
| And that's one of my problems. | ||
| Like last time I said I'm not exercising that much because I'm not recovering. | ||
| Like I'm just going at 100 miles an hour all the time, sleeping five hours a night. | ||
| If I did hit it as hard as I could, if I lifted heavier three times a week, it would destroy me. | ||
| I would just get sick. | ||
| So I have to sleep a lot more if I'm going to lift heavy, but this app kind of tells me when I'm doing that. | ||
| Are you still trying to work out once a month or something wacky like that? | ||
| Weren't you doing like 45 minutes a month? | ||
| I try to do 15 minutes a week. | ||
| 15 minutes a week? | ||
| I'm doing okay, but I think I could do better. | ||
| I'm not exactly as good. | ||
| Well, that's not really a sign of fitness. | ||
| I just want to let you know. | ||
| I don't know what kind of magazines you've read. | ||
| Those Charles Atlas things. | ||
| Remember those? | ||
| He-Man, build-a-H-Man things? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm actually working a lot on functional movement right now. | ||
| I have a screw in my right knee. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| And I've had three surgeries on it before I was 24. | ||
| I have no ACL in it. | ||
| So I stand kind of... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it took a lot of work, but I've been able to climb in the Himalayas and do long-distance HILT tracking. | ||
| Well, just get it fixed. | ||
| You know, I looked at it back when it went out, and they wanted to put something in from a cadaver that was good for five years or a synthetic. | ||
| No, no, it's not good for five years. | ||
| It's good forever. | ||
| I have one cadaver. | ||
| They told me it was only good for five years. | ||
| That's Canadians. | ||
| They don't know any better up there. | ||
| They're using dog bones. | ||
| Just five shoelaces and sliding your knee together. | ||
| I might actually get it fixed. | ||
| Dude, get it fixed. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| I've had both of them undone. | ||
| You have, okay. | ||
| And did it change things for you? | ||
| Oh, fuck you. | ||
| I've had them done two different ways, too. | ||
| I had my left one done in 1993, and they did it with a patella tendon graft. | ||
| They take a slice off of your patella. | ||
| Your patella tendon is a big fat one in the middle, in the front, rather. | ||
| And that one's really strong. | ||
| You can take a little bit of that off, and more than enough for an ACL, and you still don't need the amount of strength that it possesses. | ||
| So they do that. | ||
| And as long as you do the right rehab, that's the way George St. Pierre just went. | ||
| Colin McGregor, he got the same surgery as well with the patella tending graft. | ||
| But a lot of guys want to do the less invasive one, which is with the cadaver. | ||
| I had that done on my right knee. | ||
| Mine worked great. | ||
| But I have heard other guys get the cadaver and then they're training, like they're trying to get back in shape and it blows out on them. | ||
| I have heard that happen because your body just didn't accept it or your body rejected it. | ||
| Dominic Cruz, in fact, the UFC bantamweight champion, he had to get his redone. | ||
| And it was for that very reason. | ||
| It just popped on him. | ||
| And he said what he was doing was nothing. | ||
| It just gave out. | ||
| Mine gave out. | ||
| I'd been lifting heavy six days a week for 18 months. | ||
| I was really training hard because I just never wanted to get hurt again. | ||
| I was in my early 20s. | ||
| I was still fat. | ||
| I couldn't lose this weight. | ||
| And I finally said, all right, I'm going to go have fun with my friends. | ||
| I was playing laser tag when I blew the ACL. | ||
| I just like squatted, twisted, boom. | ||
| Yeah, well, dorky way to hurt yourself. | ||
| I had the same thing. | ||
| I just turned when I was filming something once, fell to the ground screaming, and I couldn't walk for like a month. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, if you don't pivot your feet when you turn around, you put a lot of stress on that knee, man. | ||
| That's how I blew mine out the first time. | ||
| The left one I blew out throwing a kick on a bag. | ||
| I was just exhausted doing rounds on a bag, and I just didn't kick too hard to not pivot my knee, and it just popped on me. | ||
| It just gave out. | ||
| And my right one was doing jiu-jitsu. | ||
| It was caught between someone's legs, and he just extended his legs just half-guard, and my leg, my knee snapped like a carrot. | ||
| But both of them I had done, both of them are great today. | ||
| I do everything. | ||
| I do Muay Thai, Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| It doesn't bother me at all. | ||
| It doesn't bother me at all. | ||
| So they can fix them solid. | ||
| The problem with not getting them fixed is they're moving around a lot and that's causing a lot of undue friction inside on your meniscus and all that jazz. | ||
| That stuff can get chewed up. | ||
| I've been able to totally control the pain in the knee and the inflammation and all. | ||
| So I feel good all the time. | ||
| But because my knee used to just pop out, my kneecap would just go sprawling and the leg would fold sideways and I'd fall down like over and over. | ||
| My nervous system learned that that leg is weak and you should protect it. | ||
| So I put all my weight on my left leg unconsciously. | ||
| And when I feel like I'm standing straight, I'm standing crooked and my right shoulder is too far forward and one's higher. | ||
| So I'm relearning all these like neurological pathways and activating my feet muscles in the right way. | ||
| And it's actually a lot of work and it makes like different parts of your body hurt in ways that aren't normal. | ||
| I think I didn't start out with the strongest physical frame I would have liked. | ||
| Yeah, you without a doubt should get your knees fixed. | ||
| I'm telling you, because it's one of those things where, yeah, there's a period where you're going to have to rehab it six months. | ||
| But once it's done, you'll be so happy. | ||
| You'll be like, oh, I got a leg I can count on now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I guarantee you, you have like one leg you really count on and another one that you're just a little freaky. | ||
| You don't want to jump onto an ice wall with it, you know? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| If you went ice climbing, you wouldn't trust that bitch. | ||
| Not in the slightest. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get it fixed, dude. | ||
| Not hard, man. | ||
| And believe me, you'll be walking in like no time. | ||
| In like a week, you'll be walking around. | ||
| The way they can do it today, it's fucking incredible. | ||
| Just fix that bitch up. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| I will go see someone, Joe. | ||
| I want all pressuring them. | ||
| I'm going to give in to peer pressure and have knee surgery. | ||
| People, there's certain surgeries that I don't. | ||
| Like, I've seen a lot of people have problems with their backs. | ||
| Backs scare the shit out of me. | ||
| Like, I think a lot of people just like to go right away and get surgery on things. | ||
| And I think in certain circumstances, surgery is the way to go. | ||
| Like, I know people that have gotten artificial discs and a bunch of different things, and they needed to do it at the time. | ||
| They had, like, a real serious issue. | ||
| But I know some other people, I go, man, I wonder if that guy could have held out. | ||
| I wonder if he could have lost some weight. | ||
| I wonder if he could have tried taking yoga, tried changing his diet a little bit to reduce inflammation, cut out your sugars, simple sugars. | ||
| Like people don't realize, you know, I went gluten-free, cheated a little bit the other day. | ||
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Oh, whoa. | |
| Had some cookies. | ||
| Did you get sick? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| You just said you had a flu, right? | ||
| Yeah, but that wasn't because of that. | ||
| He was tossing his cookies. | ||
| No, the flu is because of this Reginokine shit. | ||
| I'm going through this blood spinning procedure today. | ||
| It was actually the first day. | ||
| Have you ever heard of that stuff? | ||
| Do you know what it is? | ||
| Blood spinning. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| I'm the wrong guy to explain this to you. | ||
| I'm so fucking stupid. | ||
| But it's what a lot of athletes have been doing. | ||
| The stem cell thing? | ||
| Well, it's not necessarily a stem cell thing. | ||
| It's your own blood, and then your blood gets put through this process. | ||
| I should find a best way to explain it online. | ||
| But I flew back from England, so it was like an 11-hour flight, and then I didn't get any sleep the night before because my clock was all screwed up. | ||
| So I stayed up all night, and then tried to sleep on the plane, and then lifted in the morning like an asshole, and then started to feel kind of sick, and then got this quart of blood pulled out of my body. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| It's not really a quart. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| How many? | ||
| It's probably a pint. | ||
| That's what they usually take. | ||
| When did they put it back in? | ||
| I think it's more than a pint. | ||
| It's a lot of goddamn blood. | ||
| They culture it for what? | ||
| They do something where they introduce it to heat and then they spin it in a centrifuge and they pull out this yellowish shit. | ||
| And this yellowish shit is supposed to be one of the very best drugs for anti-inflammation known to man. | ||
| It's created by your own body. | ||
| Sign me up. | ||
| Yeah, I'm fascinated by it. | ||
| I don't necessarily know for sure that it's going to work, but it's one of those things that all these different athletes, like Peyton Manning, had it done on his neck. | ||
| He had two different neck surgeries, I believe, and he was close to retiring before he had this done. | ||
| And I know that Chris Wideman, the UFC middleweight champion, just went over there and had it done on his knee, and he's just raving about it. | ||
| Did you go to London to get it done? | ||
| Well, I went to getting mine done in Santa Monica. | ||
| They started doing it in Santa Monica now. | ||
| Sweet. | ||
| The guy learned how to do it from the dude in Germany. | ||
| There's a cat in Germany that figured this out. | ||
| Germany is just so far ahead of the United States when it comes to their experimental medicine. | ||
| Everyone in the United States got hamstrung with all that stem cell shit during the Bush administration where people thought they were just going to start sucking babies out of chicks' pussies and turning them into fucking medicine. | ||
| There was a real worry that people were going to actually get abortions on purpose in order to do this. | ||
| Yeah, there was a lot of nuttiness when it came to stem cells and research. | ||
| And so we lost a lot. | ||
| Here's the coolest stem cell story I've ever seen. | ||
| There's this thing you can do for anti-aging where you pull your fat cells out and they do something to them and re-inject them as fat stem cells. | ||
| And it can take 20 years off your face and it lasts for a long time. | ||
| So a lot of ladies are getting this done. | ||
| And there was a lady in Beverly Hills who got that done the same time they injected calcium into her eyelids. | ||
| And because it was a stem cell and it saw the calcium, it made bones in her eyelids. | ||
| So she'd close her eyes and it would click with bones. | ||
| True story. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| So yeah, stem cells are amazing and I don't think we understand them that well, but I'm really interested in stimulating mine. | ||
| I'm using like electromagnetic fields to do that right now. | ||
| Yeah, that seems like student stem cells in your eye. | ||
| You want to try like generation four or five of that motherfucker. | ||
| It's like these poor gals that get their lips done permanently and like get like crazy facial surgery. | ||
| You know, there's another thing that they're coming up with in Germany that's going to make your body restart its production of collagen. | ||
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| Yeah, like what you had when you were young, and the reason why your face turns all wrinkly and fucking, a lot of that is collagen. | ||
| These same guys as Dr. Peter Welling that developed this Regino Keene therapy. | ||
| They're developing something that's going to make your body reproduce collagen. | ||
| They're going to have shit nailed within 100 years. | ||
| No one's ever going to die. | ||
| You had Aubrey DeGrey on, right? | ||
| I had Aubrey DeGrey on my TV show. | ||
| He never actually made the air. | ||
| He goes, fucking Philistines. | ||
| How dare they edit Aubrey de Grey out? | ||
| Aubrey's a buddy. | ||
| He's fascinating task. | ||
| I just love that guy, but I just talked to him for about an hour, hour and a half. | ||
| Did you get hypnotized by his beard? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sexy as fuck. | ||
| I keep looking at him. | ||
| He has the coolest beard I've ever seen on a human being, and I just try to look him in the eye, and I just look at his beard. | ||
| So, hey, Aubrey. | ||
| Yeah, great guy. | ||
| So this Reginokine stuff, they take 60 milliliters of blood. | ||
| That seems like a lot. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The blood is then heated, and the heating causes the blood to undergo the same change as it would if a person receives a fever. | ||
| And the blood is then put into a centrifuge and separated. | ||
| And one of the layers of yellowish serum is a layer full of things great for reducing pain and inflammation. | ||
| Cytokines? | ||
| Is that cytokines? | ||
| Cytokines, cytokines. | ||
| Cytokines, K-E-N-E-S. | ||
| It's really interesting shit. | ||
| I'll let you guys know exactly whether or not it's helping or not helping me, but I just had the first series of injections stuck into my neck and back this morning. | ||
| There's another German thing they do. | ||
| They'll pull your blood out, they'll mix it with ozone gas, which causes a whole bunch of anti-inflammatory molecules, and then they inject the blood back in after that Really strong oxidative exposure, and it has not stem cell effects, but it has really strong anti-inflammatory effects. | ||
| I've done that one, and it's pretty legit. | ||
| Well, according to a lot of these doctors, inflammation is the cause of a lot of illnesses, a lot of problems, and there's many different factors. | ||
| There's diet, there's certain people have allergies or certain things they're not aware of that cause inflammation, but diet is a big one. | ||
| Having a low inflammatory diet or a low inflammation diet, it's really good for you. | ||
| And it's good. | ||
| We're fucking so hooked on shit that's not good for us. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, I talked, so many people I've talked to about this. | ||
| Like, I went gluten-free. | ||
| So many people I talked to about it, they were like, how hard is that? | ||
| How hard is that to do? | ||
| My God, it's got to be so hard to do. | ||
| Like, I could never do it. | ||
| They just like, they're just wouldn't. | ||
| And I'm like, I'm telling you, it's not that hard. | ||
| It's really not that big a deal. | ||
| You just eat vegetables and meat. | ||
| Like, everything tastes good. | ||
| But it's like, you get this idea in your head that you need to have this stuff in your body all the time. | ||
| Bread and sugar. | ||
| But bread converts directly to sugar. | ||
| Even if gluten is, it's all bullshit, like the gluten intolerances that people have as far as digesting. | ||
| Even if that's bullshit, it's definitely not bullshit that you're becoming a person with much more sugar in their diet if you increase the amount of pastas and breads you eat. | ||
| Without a doubt, when you eat pasta, when you eat bread, it converts directly to sugar. | ||
| And having sugar in your body causes inflammation. | ||
| So gluten, without a doubt, causes inflammation. | ||
| There's another thing called agglutination, which is when your red blood cells stick together so they don't carry nutrients and oxygen like they should. | ||
| And part of gluten is gliadin, which is something that we use to cause clotting. | ||
| Like it's a clotting factor that's in this grain, and it's there as a defense mechanism to keep animals from eating the grain. | ||
| So when people eat this. | ||
| So what do we do? | ||
| We eat it. | ||
| Yeah, we eat it. | ||
| We're like, oh, I wonder why I have autoimmune conditions. | ||
| This is one of the reasons. | ||
| Do you think that if that was known, that that would be something that they would just start telling farmers, hey, guys, guys, guys, stop growing grain. | ||
| Like, look what's going on. | ||
| And the farmers would go, oh, we didn't even know. | ||
| Oh, it's causing inflammation? | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| But no, it's just like everybody's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I like bread. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to stop eating spaghetti. | ||
| That's the gluteomorphin problem. | ||
| You know about that? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Gluteomorphin is what happens when you partially digest gluten. | ||
| It goes through the gut lining and it's called gluteomorphin because it sounds like morphine. | ||
| It goes to the same opiate receptors that heroin goes to. | ||
| There's a reason when you go gluten-free, you're fine. | ||
| And then you have one bagel or croissant and the next day you're like, I'll just have a little bit. | ||
| It's the same. | ||
| It's like someone says, I mostly gave up heroin. | ||
| Like, no, if you go gluten-free, don't have a cheat day once a week because you'll crave gluten all the time because of this opiate-like effect. | ||
| This is one thing that I've read, and I'd really like to know, how long does gluten affect your system? | ||
| Like, say, because I've read that it's total bullshit, that it goes right through your system just like everything else. | ||
| It's not a healthy thing to eat, but your body doesn't have, most likely, unless you have celiac disease, doesn't have any intolerances towards it. | ||
| And then I've read the other that says that it can stay in your system as long as 30 days. | ||
| Like have a cookie, and it'll be in your system for 30 days. | ||
| I'm like, that doesn't even make sense. | ||
| The gluten itself won't be in your system, but the impact of the gluten on your immune reaction can go as long as six months. | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| Well, it's kind of like... | ||
| It doesn't fuck you. | ||
| It has declining power over how you feel. | ||
| But think about this. | ||
| You get one immune booster, right? | ||
| That's good for a whole year. | ||
| It was one exposure. | ||
| What's an immune booster? | ||
| Well, like you get like a vaccine, like a flu shot, right? | ||
| Okay. | ||
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So that's good for a whole year if they got the right flu. | |
| That's probably one thing they're going to have someday. | ||
| Like an immune booster. | ||
| Like something they just shoot you with and your immune system goes. | ||
| Well, they have that for specific things like rabies. | ||
| Like I got rabies shots because I was bitten by a vampire bat. | ||
| No joke. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| You ever worry that you would turn? | ||
| You know, it happened, and I just dealt with it. | ||
| You just dealt with it? | ||
| You're sitting in your house looking out the window, feeling your fangs grow. | ||
| That was really weird. | ||
| I woke up with a vampire bat literally feeding on my neck. | ||
| That is so fucked. | ||
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Where were you? | |
| I was in Colorado. | ||
| It's the only time this has ever happened in the continental U.S. Why were you sleeping near a bat? | ||
| I was sleeping in a cabin. | ||
| I didn't know the bat was in there or I would have chosen a better place to sleep. | ||
| So the bat was in the cabin. | ||
| You're sitting there sleeping. | ||
| It swoops down and lands on your neck like a motherfucking movie and starts sucking the blood out of your... | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Do they always go for the neck? | ||
| That seems like so like you're not. | ||
| I was in a sleeping bag. | ||
| That was in the car. | ||
| And it's all tender there. | ||
| So I woke up and there was like, I was like having a dream and these two like tingly spots on my neck and my heart would beat and they'd tingle and they'd stop. | ||
| It would tingle and it would stop. | ||
| And I was like, oh my God, there's a mouse on my neck. | ||
| So I reached up and I grabbed it and I was just a kid and this happened. | ||
| And I tried to squeeze it to kill it and it bit my thumb. | ||
| So I threw it as hard as I could on the ground and it never hit the ground. | ||
| And I'm like, what was that? | ||
| It wasn't a mouse. | ||
| Like it was something. | ||
| And I was kind of freaked out and we turned on lights and we caught the bat. | ||
| We brought it to the hospital and they told us, you know, it's okay to kill it. | ||
| And we called all these bat experts and they all said, yeah, you know, you should pour ether in there and kill it. | ||
| So we pour ether in this pitcher where the bat was so they could freeze it and look for rabies in its brain. | ||
| And when we pour the ether in there, ether dissolves plastic. | ||
| So the bat like falls onto the floor in the hospital. | ||
| It's flopping around. | ||
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I'm sure in Durango, Colorado, they still remember this. | |
| So the plastic jug, you pour the ether in, it just dissolved the jug away? | ||
| Yeah, like the bottom of the jug just fell out. | ||
| And so this like half-dead bat covered in plastic goose falls on the floor. | ||
| The nurses are running around. | ||
| And I'm sitting there with the leg on my neck. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| But yeah, so I could get an immune booster because I've had the whole rabies series. | ||
| One shot would like boost my immunity for a long time. | ||
| So it's not that hard of a thought to say, you know, if you drank a little bit of poison, it could cause a problem in your body for a long period of time. | ||
| So I was just on Tom O'Brien, a friend of mine who's been studying gluten for like 30 years. | ||
| He has a gluten summit coming up in November or sometime. | ||
| And I was one of his guests on there, but he interviewed like a whole bunch of different physicians who've been doing research on the immune effects of gluten. | ||
| Six months is a real number. | ||
| It's not always there. | ||
| And those last few months, it's a very tiny effect, but it's measurable and detectable. | ||
| How do they measure that and detect that? | ||
| That's what's confusing to me. | ||
| Like if you had a bowl of spaghetti, how the fuck could they measure the impact that that has six months in the future? | ||
| It depends on who you are. | ||
| But one of the things they could do is they can draw your blood every so often, like every, say, month. | ||
| Right. | ||
| and they can see declining levels of antibodies specifically to the stuff you ate if you're sensitive to it. | ||
| But get this. | ||
| When you eat gluten, it causes cross-reactivity in your immune system. | ||
| And there's whole panels of cross-reactivity things you can do. | ||
| What that means is that if your body is genetically or microbiologically set up that way, or let's say you have leaky gut because you didn't take your digestive enzymes, well, whatever the cause there is, this happens. | ||
| And then the wheat tells your body, oh, you should attack your nervous system. | ||
| You should attack your heart tissue. | ||
| You should attack your brain. | ||
| Wheat tells it that? | ||
| Damn straight. | ||
| Can't believe that fucking wheat. | ||
| I've never talked to wheat, so I guess I would never know. | ||
| Yeah, if we started talking to you, would you listen? | ||
| Be like, shut up, bitch. | ||
| You're getting nothing but bread. | ||
| I'm not eating my nerves. | ||
| Fuck you, man. | ||
| You're an asshole. | ||
| They found that they took blood from military guys. | ||
| The military does this. | ||
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They save the blood they draw for like 30 or 40 years. | |
| And they went back and they looked at guys who got lupus and they looked at their blood. | ||
| And they found out that they could find 10 years ahead of time. | ||
| They could predict they were going to have lupus based on their antibodies to their own tissues. | ||
| And gluten stimulates those antibodies to your own tissues. | ||
| I still don't understand how they would be able to detect six months' worth of the impact of gluten. | ||
| I mean, they would have to really restrict your diet for six months to isolate that it was just the gluten that caused those issues. | ||
| Well, for me, for instance, I don't touch gluten. | ||
| The stuff is like kryptonite to me. | ||
| I really don't feel well. | ||
| I get like zits and I just feel like crap and then I crave it and it's just not okay for my immune system. | ||
| I like cookies. | ||
| Yeah, you and me both. | ||
| I like spaghetti too. | ||
| But I found gluten spaghetti. | ||
| There's some like legit gluten pastas. | ||
| You got to get the kind that's not dried, I found. | ||
| I found like the kind that you only boil for like two minutes. | ||
| That's like the mushroom rice kind. | ||
| Well, the kind that looks like fresh pasta. | ||
| Oh, made out of rice or sea? | ||
| Made out of gluten. | ||
| Yeah, it's made out of rice. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But made out of something that has no gluten. | ||
| But it's amazing. | ||
| The gluten-free pastas that I've had, they taste just like regular pasta. | ||
| Like you don't feel like you lose anything. | ||
| But the amount of time digesting it is incredibly different. | ||
| The way your body feels after, like, the other night I had a big bowl of this gluten-free pasta with like this delicious sauce with garlic in it. | ||
| And I swear to God, it tasted exactly like regular linguine. | ||
| But the next like hour or two wasn't a struggle and staying conscious. | ||
| It wasn't that that you get if you have a big bowl of like regular spaghetti. | ||
| Isn't that the reason why like Chinese or Asian foods don't like you get hungry faster after that for the second? | ||
| I never understood that. | ||
| That was like an old joke. | ||
| It's MSG. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| MSG drives your blood sugar up and then makes it crater. | ||
| And that's why you get hungry because your body's like, could I have some more energy to pump this extra glutamate out of my synapses? | ||
| Oh, that makes sense. | ||
| I've always tried to avoid MSG. | ||
| I don't know why, but I've heard that it's really bad for you. | ||
| So maybe that's why I never understood that joke. | ||
| They always say that, like, if you're not. | ||
| It's really bad for you. | ||
| Isn't it proven to cause cancer or something like that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What is MSG? | ||
| It's a cancer connection there. | ||
| It's an exatory neurotoxin. | ||
| So inside your synapse, in order for a synapse to fire, monosodium glutamate. | ||
| It'll cause your synapses to fire naturally. | ||
| You squirt glutamate into a synapse, which causes a little electrical signal to flow, and then you suck that glutamate back out. | ||
| And that's how your brain works. | ||
| The problem is when you get extra glutamate like that, then you have so much that even when you suck the glutamate out, there's still some left. | ||
| So your cells keep firing. | ||
| That's why people get migraines and they get tired, they get sleepy. | ||
| But if you're a restaurant and you toss a little MSG in there, even stuff that's legally, you're allowed to say, I added no MSG, even though what you added was 74% MSG. | ||
| It's okay to say no MSG then. | ||
| That's FDA. | ||
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| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, those whores. | ||
| So you go to a restaurant and the cook honestly believes, like, the chef there will tell you, I'll look you straight in the eye and say, there's no MSG in here. | ||
| And he means it because he has things that say on the label, no MSG, because as long as it's at least 25% not MSG, you don't have to say what's in there. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| And then he says, look, people like it more because you eat this and it causes a food craving. | ||
| So then you order dessert. | ||
| You order another drink. | ||
| So from his perspective, he's like, hey, people like it. | ||
| They order more food. | ||
| I'm more successful. | ||
| They like it. | ||
| I'm doing it for my people. | ||
| But what's the bad that's going on in their bodies? | ||
| What's going on is it just messed with their blood sugar. | ||
| It caused massive cravings for sugar, specifically, because it drove blood sugar up and made it drive down. | ||
| When it drives down, you're getting like these cravings. | ||
| Like, I think I'll have dessert. | ||
| I think I'll have the coffee. | ||
| I think I'll have another beer. | ||
| I'll have another soda. | ||
| So you have more yumminess in your life. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's the only issue? | ||
| Is more yumminess? | ||
| Well, the problem is, too, that those cells keep firing until they die, and you get headaches and all sorts of other things like that. | ||
| So there's no specific thing that you have to fear for. | ||
| Like your dick's going to break or your brain's going to stop working. | ||
| The brain stopping working is what happens over time. | ||
| I've not heard of butt cancer from MSG. | ||
| MSG, your brain stops working? | ||
| Yeah, it kills brain cells. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What it says online, there's on Wikipedia, it's kind of, I didn't know this, that it's one of the most abundant, naturally occurring non-essential amino acids. | ||
| It's a sodium salt of glutamic, glutamic, how do you say it? | ||
| Glutamic acid. | ||
| Glutamic acid. | ||
| One of the most abundant, naturally occurring non-essential amino acids. | ||
| Glutamic acid is, but monosodium glutamate isn't. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| When they monosodiumize it, to make up a word, that's what makes it highly purified. | ||
| Right, it's the sodium salt of glutamic acid, Look at soy sauce. | ||
| Soy sauce is full of naturally occurring MSG. | ||
| Umami, that flavor, that savory flavor that we want, that's basically the MSG taste for the MSG receptors on our tongue. | ||
| It tastes good. | ||
| What's umami? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Umami, when you're a chef, it's like the sixths flavor. | ||
| And it's something that comes from like charring your meat just right, kind of searing the outside, or using soy sauce is the classical umami taste. | ||
| It was isolated by Japanese researchers who, funny enough, invented MSG when they were trying to get to the bottom of what's the special taste that people enjoy. | ||
| The problem is that that taste, especially in excess, causes these massive food cravings and drops in blood sugar and it causes brain cell death. | ||
| But it's yummy. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Put it in cookies. | ||
| How much danger is it? | ||
| Like, is it something you should absolutely definitely avoid Or is it something like along like sugar, as long as you have it in moderation, you should be okay? | ||
| Especially for kids, it should be illegal to give kids MSG because their gut isn't that good at filtering these things out and their blood-brain barrier isn't fully formed. | ||
| Not that it's that good of a barrier in anyone. | ||
| After that, it's a question of how healthy your tissues are, what your genetics are. | ||
| I don't think there's any argument that it's good for you. | ||
| I've never heard that. | ||
| And it likely causes just weakness, headaches, brain fog, and tiredness in people, and they don't know what's happening. | ||
| It doesn't look good when you're reading the exotoxicity reports on Wikipedia. | ||
| It's bad news. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's been shown in animal studies to cause damage in areas of the brain unprotected by the blood-brain barrier. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that a variety of chronic diseases can arise out of this neurotoxicity. | ||
| But it tastes good, and it sells more food. | ||
| It's important. | ||
| There's about 40 different code names for MSG that the food industry is legally allowed to use. | ||
| Spice extracts are always MSG, but they're 74% MSG. | ||
| Hydrolyzed soy protein, textured vegetable protein, malt extract. | ||
| How did we get so fucking whore-like? | ||
| I mean, how did the food administration, the FDA, whoever allows this, how did they get so whore-like that they thought this is okay? | ||
| It was coffee's fault. | ||
| Coffee? | ||
| It turns out every one of the major packaged food companies out there right now started out marketing coffee. | ||
| The kind of ancient history of coffee marketing. | ||
| The techniques we use to manipulate people to eating the cheapest possible crap we can sell, the stuff that causes the most cravings so they'll buy more of it. | ||
| You can't eat just one sort of marketing. | ||
| That all evolved from the very early days. | ||
| And all those companies today, like Post and General Mills, started out as coffee merchants, and they just spread into these other kinds of food. | ||
| It kind of makes sense because if you start out with that, coffee, without a doubt, is addictive. | ||
| I mean, everybody knows it. | ||
| There's a place near me that has two Starbucks right next to each other. | ||
| There's a Starbucks that's right here. | ||
| And then there's a supermarket that's like 30 paces away with a big Starbucks sign. | ||
| So there's a Starbucks in the supermarket and there's a Starbucks store. | ||
| And they're right next to each other. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| We're going to have to put a bulletproof on the third corner and just... | ||
| You should do a bulletproof coffee chain. | ||
| Most people have no idea what the fuck this stuff is. | ||
| When I give people bulletproof coffee, they always go like, whoa, the question everybody has about bulletproof, this is the controversial question. | ||
| This process that you have, the bunch of questions. | ||
| For folks who don't know what bulletproof coffee is, Dave invented some, this is how I found out about Dave. | ||
| Tate Fletcher came over to the Ice House studio and he brought this delicious thermos of amazing coffee that had stevia in it and butter. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck are you drinking, man? | ||
| And he used to tell me about bulletproof coffee. | ||
| And it's coffee that is mixed with MCT oil and grass-fed butter. | ||
| And then more importantly, I started reading about mycotoxins and how just generally accepted it is that there's mycotoxins in a lot of different coffee that you buy, you know, and that people aren't testing for it and they just accept it and that you're drinking this fungus. | ||
| Joe, it's worse than that. | ||
| We know this is such a big problem that in the EU, there's a limit on one of the many different ones I test for. | ||
| In Singapore, in South Korea, in Japan, there are legal limits on this toxin called okratoxin. | ||
| But in the U.S., there's no limit. | ||
| So where do you think those shipments of coffee that are above the limit where you can sell it in Europe, where do you think they go? | ||
| They'll go here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| And that's just one of the toxins. | ||
| The stuff I test for is not regulated in any country. | ||
| All right. | ||
| How toxic, though? | ||
| When you say mycotoxins, I mean, what are the studies? | ||
| Do a Google search for okratoxin. | ||
| O-C-H-R-A-T-O-X-I-N. | ||
| I've got more than a thousand references to human health conditions indexed by condition getting ready to go up on the website. | ||
| This is a major human health hazard, not just in coffee, it's in lots of foods. | ||
| And on the Bulletproof Diet, there I said the B word again. | ||
| What I'm doing there is I'm saying, look, these are the foods that, from a base perspective, cause the least inflammation. | ||
| And the ones that are most likely to be moldy are going to be on the more dangerous side of things. | ||
| They're not going to be on Never Eat them. | ||
| They'll just be on the watch list. | ||
| Sweat this. | ||
| This is the description of it on Wikipedia. | ||
| Okratoxin A is known to occur in commodities such as cereal, coffee, dried fruit, and red wine. | ||
| It's possibly a human carcinogen and is of special interest as it can be accumulated in the meat of animals. | ||
| Thus, meat and meat products can be contaminated with this toxin. | ||
| Exposure to ochre toxins through diet can cause acute toxicity in mammalian kidneys. | ||
| That's you. | ||
| You're a mammal, fuckface. | ||
| And may be carcinogenic. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| So get this. | ||
| Why doesn't it say coffee, though? | ||
| There's a reason that you should eat grass-fed meat, too. | ||
| This is one of the many reasons because these toxins that are common in grains and cereals, by the way, they feed the crap cereal to the animals that they're going to feed you. | ||
| Because the cereals that have high mold, they can't feed them to the pregnant cows because pregnant cows miscarry when they eat the toxic grain. | ||
| So they save it for the stuff you're going to eat. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| Oh, that's so gross. | ||
| The grain thing is a real big issue. | ||
| And a lot of folks don't recognize. | ||
| I was at the supermarket the other day and this guy was trying to talk me into buying grain-fed beef because it was fattier and more delicious. | ||
| And I was like, no, dude, I know what I want. | ||
| I'm trying to get grass-fed beef for a reason. | ||
| You're selling an animal that's sick. | ||
| They had two different rows of meat. | ||
| And on one row, it was these grass-fed rib eyes. | ||
| And they're very small. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| The rib steak from a grass-fed cow is far smaller than the ones from these corn-fed cows. | ||
| And they were right next to each other. | ||
| But one of them was like a dark red. | ||
| And the other one was like this paler, sicker, fattier, sort of like red-ish color. | ||
| And that was the ones that were corn-fed. | ||
| And I was like, wow, this is like right in front of your face. | ||
| That's a healthy animal. | ||
| That's a sick animal. | ||
| The problem with those sick animals is they are fucking delicious. | ||
| If you take one of those Sick fat ones, and you slap that bitch on the grill, and you see all that fat crackling and everything. | ||
| It does taste good, but I like grass-fed better. | ||
| You don't cook it as long, it doesn't have nearly as much fat in it. | ||
| It's a much quicker cooking method, but you get used to the taste of it and the texture of it. | ||
| It just, I think it's a better-tasting beef. | ||
| It is way better for you. | ||
| That's undisputable. | ||
| It's better for you. | ||
| And once you get used to that taste, the other stuff doesn't taste good anymore. | ||
| It leaves like a coating in your mouth. | ||
| I went to one of those high-end chain steak houses where you spend 80 bucks on a steak, and I'm like, all right, I'll get it. | ||
| And I cut the fat off the steak, which I never do because it didn't taste right. | ||
| I could tell it wasn't good for me. | ||
| But when I get the stuff from a cow that's raised on grass, especially fresh, like just pasture, the fat's like a yellowish color, and it just tastes so good. | ||
| You get like a food high from it. | ||
| It is a different taste. | ||
| The fat is way different. | ||
| That yellow fat, it's really interesting. | ||
| It looks different. | ||
| What really gets me is the way it tastes. | ||
| It just tastes like an animal that's more gamey. | ||
| It tastes like a wild animal. | ||
| When you eat, like a lot of people don't like the gamey taste of venison, but a lot of what you're eating when you're eating venison is the diet of the animal. | ||
| Like if you get venison that's from a farm, like farm-raised venison, it tastes very different than wild venison. | ||
| Wild venison has like a feeling when you're eating it, like it's alive. | ||
| Like this is like a powerful piece of meat. | ||
| The farm venison that I've had, I've had some of it that's really good and I've had other that feels like, man, they must be giving these guys the same fucking shit they give cows. | ||
| Yeah, it's kind of flat tasting. | ||
| It's not like alive is a great word for it. | ||
| It's not running. | ||
| It's not running from bullets. | ||
| I interviewed Glenn Elzinga on my podcast. | ||
| Fucking Glenn. | ||
| I don't even know who that guy is. | ||
| This guy's like, he spent his whole life raising like 500 cattle. | ||
| And we went into all these crazy details. | ||
| And he said the secret to having the best grass-fed meat was that you wanted to go in and let the cows pick the grass they'd eat and then a cow will naturally get like the clump of grass that has the most nutrients for it. | ||
| Like they have radar for the right kinds of food. | ||
| And his meat has the darkest yellow fat I've ever had. | ||
| So it's, you know, it's one of those things where you have these guys who make wine, and there's the equivalent level of artistry for people who make beef. | ||
| And he told me about how after you slaughter the animal, like how they do it in an ethical way. | ||
| So there's no pain, no suffering. | ||
| They don't see each other die and all that. | ||
| But then like when you cool the animal determines whether you have a tender steak or a tough steak. | ||
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So there's this incredibly complex like artisanal process. | |
| I did not know all those details, but I can't wait to have my own cows. | ||
| Like I'm going to be like a cow hacker one of these days. | ||
| It's a smart move. | ||
| I would love to have a small farm, like a farm for just me and my friends. | ||
| I think it's totally doable. | ||
| I've got an offering on one right now. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Fingers crossed in America or in Canada? | ||
| Godforsaken Land to the North. | ||
| It's on an island in the Godforsaken Land of the North. | ||
| But I'm really hoping that we get the financing we're looking for because I will have several cows on it and I'll invite you up for steak. | ||
| Dude, I goof around about Canada, but when the shit hits the fan, I'm fucking moving there for cheesy. | ||
| I almost moved there in 2008. | ||
| I got real close when George W. Bush was in office, and I was like, this is the... | ||
| Vancouver or Toronto? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I was going to go Vancouver because I don't want to freeze to death. | ||
| But if you're going to freeze to death, Toronto's the move. | ||
| Toronto's badass. | ||
| It's huge. | ||
| It's a great town. | ||
| It's got a weird thing going on because you have all the intelligence and worldliness of a big city, but you have nice people. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I mean, there's some douchebags in Toronto, don't get me wrong. | ||
| There's douchebags everywhere. | ||
| They're unavoidable. | ||
| I mean, there's a certain percentage of human beings that were raised by fuckheads. | ||
| They did a terrible job and created a shit product. | ||
| Just what it is. | ||
| It's the same as if you gave a bunch of people car parts and had them put together their own cars. | ||
| There's some people that are going to put together amazing cars, and there's some dickheads that are going to develop things where their fucking wheels fly off on the highway. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| People suck. | ||
| I got to tell you, Canadians, they're so friendly. | ||
| I love living there. | ||
| I'm grateful to have been able to move up there because even in traffic, people don't cut you off. | ||
| They let you in. | ||
| And it's just a whole different experience, especially when I come down to LA where drivers are more aggressive. | ||
| I'm happy to drive in heavy traffic like this, but when I go up there, I have to take a deep breath and calm down. | ||
| Otherwise, I'd cut in front of all these slow cars, but then I would be one of those American jerks, and I don't want to do that. | ||
| Well, they've done these studies on rats where they stuff them into a room, and they have 10 rats in a room, then they have 20 rats in a room. | ||
| They've shown what happens with rat population densities. | ||
| It's the same thing that happens to people in cities. | ||
| Rats start sitting in the corner by themselves and rocking back and forth. | ||
| They exhibit all these weird fucking goofy behavior characteristics, and they do it in large numbers. | ||
| That's what you're dealing with in Los Angeles. | ||
| When you see these crazy people cutting in front of each other and fucking flying down the road and doing all this assholeish shit, there's too many people. | ||
| Too many goddamn people. | ||
| They're freaking out. | ||
| They're trying to get away from everybody. | ||
| But when I was in Boulder, there's such a marked difference in the way people drive in Boulder. | ||
| In Boulder, people wave to each other. | ||
| There's only 100,000 of them. | ||
| They fucking hit the blinkers. | ||
| They let you in. | ||
| Nobody's in a rush. | ||
| And you feel different when you're there. | ||
| There's a general tone in the air that feels more calm and relaxed. | ||
| I find it quite fascinating how palpable it is. | ||
| So how do we bring that to big cities? | ||
| Kill everybody. | ||
| It's the only way. | ||
| There's going to have to be a mass purging. | ||
| That's pretty dark, Joe. | ||
| I mean, you don't think there's some way we can maybe hack the cities to make them a little more biologically compatible? | ||
| I have put zero thought into how to fix it. | ||
| When I say kill everybody, I'm joking. | ||
| I think, though, there is an issue. | ||
| There's certainly an issue of how many people. | ||
| But I think that issue could be possibly managed by having some sort of real comprehensive mental health program in this country for adults and have it, you know, everybody's sort of on their own. | ||
| They're on their own from the time they get to high school, essentially. | ||
| Their parents drop them off at school, the parents are working, they come home, and then the parents are tired from work. | ||
| You're basically raising yourself from 14 on with like a little bit of influence by the older people around you. | ||
| Don't get into too much trouble, but you're kind of like that's stupid, all right? | ||
| That's the most complex part of a child's life, and it's the most as far as like when you're establishing your traits and establishing your way and your ethics and the way the way you're going to live your life, you develop a lot of those patterns when you're like 14 and 15 and 16. | ||
| Those are the years that I think it's very important to help people figure out how to manage life. | ||
| Help people figure out how to think, help inspire them, help show them what can be gained from setting goals and achieving them and that excellent feeling, and that it becomes contagious. | ||
| And then you can do more with that, and you can inspire other people. | ||
| You can surround yourself with a bunch of like-minded people, and instead of being jealous of each other, actually elevate each other and grow stronger as a group than you would as individuals. | ||
| There's a lot of things that people just don't get to learn. | ||
| And sometimes you're around the wrong people. | ||
| You have the wrong job. | ||
| You have the wrong career. | ||
| You have the wrong whatever. | ||
| And you never get around those people. | ||
| And then one day you're old as fuck and you realize you wasted your life doing shitty things that are boring, hanging around with assholes who have no social skills. | ||
| Nobody elevated anybody. | ||
| And then your fucking ticker stops. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a tragedy when that happens. | ||
| It is a tragedy. | ||
| I don't think that that is necessary. | ||
| That aspect of society, I really feel like it's a mismanaged resource issue. | ||
| I think that human beings essentially, besides being life, and besides being our brothers and sisters in the community of the world, we're also a resource. | ||
| And a life is a resource. | ||
| I've always said, if this country was smart, instead of spending all this money fucking with people in other countries, you want to build up, do you want to figure out how to make this country strong? | ||
| It's not by suppressing the people inside of it or controlling natural resources. | ||
| It's by making it so that there's the smallest amount of losers possible. | ||
| Find out what's the weakest link. | ||
| Well, the weakest link is people that are born in a shit economic situation to parents that don't give a fuck. | ||
| Find them and help them. | ||
| Eliminate the possibility of weak scenarios being the cause for weak people. | ||
| You ever see that study? | ||
| They went to like the poorest neighborhoods and they went to families with young kids and they gave them one brightly colored toy and that was it. | ||
| And then they tracked the results like 15 and 20 years later and there was a noticeable IQ difference and like a life success difference from the kids who got just a little bit more mental stimulation from having something like childlike to play with instead of just playing in squalor basically. | ||
| It doesn't take that much to move the needle in a big way. | ||
| And I think also just giving them something is also, it gives them like this feeling like someone did something nice to me. | ||
| It feels good. | ||
| It's not, you know, having a material possession is not really even what's the important aspect of it. | ||
| It's receiving something kind, receiving something generous. | ||
| I honestly didn't think when I was a kid, I mean, I didn't grow up wealthy or particularly poor, call it middle class, in Albuquerque, New Mexico, actually, home of breaking bad. | ||
| And I did not know that it was normal to expect people to help you. | ||
| I seriously just, that wasn't part of the way I thought the world worked. | ||
| And I didn't figure that out until I was in my mid-20s. | ||
| I was like, holy crap. | ||
| So like now I'm like, it's pretty easy to pay for the toll for the guy behind you or buy a cup of coffee for someone else the way people do at Starbucks. | ||
| Just kind of pay it forward. | ||
| But it changes someone's whole day just to know that like someone gave a crap about you. | ||
| That someone's nice. | ||
| Yeah, that's a sweet thing to do. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Tipping too. | ||
| That's another big one. | ||
| You know, when someone waits on you, give them a little couple extra bucks. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| You don't notice it and they feel great. | ||
| That does spread. | ||
| It moves on to other people as well. | ||
| The other thing we got to do is rites of passage. | ||
| Like every society forever, especially for young men, there's rites of passage. | ||
| For women too, like the quincinera. | ||
| But for men, there really isn't one. | ||
| You talk about being 14 and all that. | ||
| There's no Boy Scouts for most people anymore. | ||
| And the whole, like you've become a man, you know, what do you do when you're 16? | ||
| We used to send him out in the desert with a knife and a loincloth and say, come back or don't. | ||
| It's a good way to not have men. | ||
| It sounds like some sort of a crazy feminist lesbian agenda trying to remove men from the planet. | ||
| You guys aren't hard enough, you fucking pussies. | ||
| You got to go naked with a knife. | ||
| It's a slower abortion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it's a late term one. | ||
| Yeah, late. | ||
| But it makes a difference because, you know, it does something for the psyche for young men. | ||
| When you're a teenager like that, you got enough hormones raging and all that stuff to kind of feel the sense of community and all that. | ||
| So I have no idea how to create rites of passage because that wasn't really a huge part of my life. | ||
| But the research I've seen on that says that's pretty important for kids at different ages. | ||
| And then you get this whole thing, like, oh, you're 18. | ||
| Now, you know, you can go out, you can hold a gun, you can vote, but you can't drink yet. | ||
| So, you know, more power to you. | ||
| But your prefrontal cortex isn't done until you're 23, maybe even 25. | ||
| So what about like the development that happens in your 20s when you realize around like 23, like, oh, I probably can't drink every night of the week because I'm, you know, not holding up as well as I'd like. | ||
| I'm tired all the time. | ||
| So by the time you're 25, you're like different than you were when you're 23, than when you're 21. | ||
| And when you're 30 and 40, you don't stop evolving through the course of your life. | ||
| And like Erickson and guys all studied that and wrote about the stages of adult development. | ||
| You can Google that. | ||
| And like, why do we stop paying attention to people when they basically turn 18? | ||
| And it's like, there you go. | ||
| Hope you don't end up in jail. | ||
| Yeah, and we don't even pay attention to them before they even turn 18. | ||
| Once they start talking back, we just fucking, you're on your own, fuckface. | ||
| You know, I think, and it's once a kid is on a path too, like if a kid is on a path to becoming an electrical engineer or on a path to, it's very difficult to jump off of a path that you've already started. | ||
| That's one of the hardest things to do in life. | ||
| When you already have some momentum and success, it makes it actually even harder. | ||
| And it should reaffirm, like, if you've been successful at this, you could be successful at anything. | ||
| But most people don't think like that. | ||
| They think, well, hey, this is X is my specialty. | ||
| If I decide that Y is my real love, I'm going to start from scratch. | ||
| I don't want to do that. | ||
| You know, I don't want to tell my, I don't want to, you know, I'm competing with my colleagues. | ||
| I don't want to all of a sudden be back to square one and these guys are at step seven or eight. | ||
| It's like you're on a train and your train's moving and you can jump off, but if you do, you got to go all the way the fuck back, and then you got to go in another direction. | ||
| It's like you're not just starting from scratch, you have to run all the way back and start from scratch. | ||
| Part of the problem here is there's so much regulation now, all these professional trade organizations that make it damn near impossible for someone who's sincerely interested in doing a new career to enter the career. | ||
| Whether you want to be a plumber, like try and just go out there and say, you know, I read all the books, I learned all this stuff. | ||
| By the time you do all the things, you're going to have invested years and a ton of money just to be allowed to go into someone's house and put a wrench on a pipe by yourself. | ||
| And the same thing goes if you want to do some sort of quasi-medical, like physical therapist. | ||
| The line between a really good functional movement trainer and a physical therapist is pretty blurry in my experience. | ||
| Yet one group has like severe restrictions on who can call themselves that and very rigid requirements for what it takes. | ||
| And the other group may have similar skills, but they're not even allowed to talk about some of what they do. | ||
| So I'd like to see a little bit more fluidity around people's careers because maybe we say, all right, this guy's certified, but this guy is doing similar things. | ||
| He's not certified. | ||
| probably going to charge less. | ||
| But at least he's allowed to talk about what he does. | ||
| But right now, That's where it becomes really problematic. | ||
| It's like, how do we know this guy knows what the fuck he's doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think that it's just unfortunate that a lot of folks get on a path that they're not actually enjoying. | ||
| And I think a lot of times you're getting advice from parents or friends or girlfriends or boyfriends where they're, you know, say, hey, this is the safer bet. | ||
| This is the more likely scenario for success. | ||
| You can't think like that. | ||
| It didn't work for me. | ||
| It doesn't work for anybody. | ||
| I mean, you can decide it works for you until you see someone who's living the life they actually want to live. | ||
| Then you're like, fuck. | ||
| You think that it's impossible to do something different than what everybody else is doing. | ||
| Working in a job, working in a cubicle, whatever. | ||
| And then you run into your friend from college who's in a band now. | ||
| And you're like, God damn it. | ||
| This motherfucker's out touring the world singing songs. | ||
| They were like a professional comedian or something. | ||
| Yeah, one of those things. | ||
| Same shit, man. | ||
| I've never had a regular normal job. | ||
| From the time I was out of high school, everything's been weird. | ||
| I had a job job, you know, teaching martial arts, but it was never, you know, I was never in a cubicle or I had no possibilities. | ||
| Cubicles are death, man. | ||
| It wasn't going to happen. | ||
| I was never going to be able to work in an office. | ||
| I never even thought it was ever a possibility. | ||
| Like when I was in high school, my number one thing was, I have to get the fuck out of here. | ||
| And then once I'm out of here, now I can figure this out for myself. | ||
| But whatever it is that allows you to think that that's good and think that that's preparing you for something that you actually want to do, ooh, I got to not allow that in my brain. | ||
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| I just knew that those people that were teaching those classes were so unhappy. | ||
| Public school, the one good thing about it sucking so hard is that it makes you analyze these poor fucks that are teaching you. | ||
| You know, if you have a really incompetent professor, it makes you analyze these poor dummies that are no motivation, not getting paid well, and they're not doing a good job of it either. | ||
| They don't take any pride in their work. | ||
| It's almost like if you wanted to go all Alex Jonesy, it's almost like they designed it to make sure that there's a certain amount of losers. | ||
| There's always going to be a certain amount of people that are willing to take crappy jobs because they have no skills, because it just made education really fucking terrible. | ||
| Well, there's a bunch of people who go into teaching because they just genuinely want to help kids. | ||
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| And they spend a lot of time getting certified, especially here in California. | ||
| The certification process is crazy. | ||
| So they go to all this, and what do they get as a reward for all their college and all their extra training credentials? | ||
| They get a job that pays them like $30,000 a year with 42 kids in the room, including some who have special needs who they just couldn't fit in the other classroom. | ||
| I volunteered. | ||
| I taught eighth graders for a couple days using Junior Achievement, this nonprofit that lets professional people come in and just teach. | ||
| And I did this in East Palo Alto a while back, which is a really poor part of the Bay Area, like probably the poorest part of the Bay Area around there. | ||
| It's like one side of the freeway is Stanford University, five and $10 million homes. | ||
| You go across the road, there's dirt roads and like gunfire. | ||
| And it's literally the freeway cuts it down the middle. | ||
| Yeah, that's a weird area. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And so I'm there and I'm volunteering to teach in this class. | ||
| And I just remember I'm usually pretty good in front of a classroom. | ||
| I taught at the University of California, so I'm a trained teacher. | ||
| And it was so hard because there were two kids there who didn't belong in that class because their brains were tweaked. | ||
| Like they were seriously unable to hear the answer to the question. | ||
| So they would just interrupt constantly. | ||
| And I just looked at the rest of the kids there and they're just sitting there kind of glazed over because they're getting nothing from this. | ||
| And I talked to the teacher afterwards and he's like, there's nothing I can do. | ||
| And this guy was one of those really good, just warm-hearted, nice guys who was teaching in a neighborhood he didn't have to teach in because that was where he could make the most good. | ||
| And like, we need to pay teachers more and we need to make public schools better. | ||
| That's one way to make the whole place more peaceful. | ||
| Yeah, that's why I was saying it's almost Alex Jonesy. | ||
| It's like by charging or by paying them $35,000 a year, you're ensuring they're going to suck at their job, a good percentage of them. | ||
| And you'll drive away some of the most passionate ones because on top of that, they have all the bureaucracy and lawsuits and just rigmarole of working for kind of an ancient government. | ||
| And I should be clear about that. | ||
| I'm not actually implying that it is some sort of a conspiracy as to why the schools suck. | ||
| I think it's simply a matter of they can get away with not paying. | ||
| I think they can cut resources in that area and then get away with it. | ||
| I think it's just one of those things that people cut. | ||
| And I think it's more of an economic matter than anything. | ||
| I don't think it's a big grand conspiracy. | ||
| But that's one of the reasons why people do think it's a conspiracy. | ||
| I mean, if you did want to look at the effects of not having a properly motivated group of teachers teaching children, I mean, that's the effects of a terrible education. | ||
| I looked at the cost of sending my kids in the Bay Area just to kindergarten in a private mid-tier school. | ||
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It was going to cost $40,000 a year for two kids post-tax. | |
| Like, that's university level, but that's because private schools are too much. | ||
| I don't know how to do that. | ||
| One of the things that led me to move to Canada, where I live now, was affordable school and really good quality schools. | ||
| And you want to have that stable community and you want to have a sense of safety, but you also want to have a sense of affordability. | ||
| So school is probably better quality than the one where my kids would have gone in the Bay Area, but it's 10% the cost. | ||
| Right, but they have to drive in kilometers and shit. | ||
| That's a tough one for me. | ||
| Yeah, with Celsius. | ||
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I just pretend like they're the same, and I'm going faster than everyone else, and I think that's okay. | |
| Is it a weird thing when you convert it over when you went over there? | ||
| Like, what about the money? | ||
| Did that freak you out? | ||
| It's almost exactly the same. | ||
| So it's just like these plastic things with pictures of English people, even though it's Canada. | ||
| I never understood why they do that. | ||
| It's a colony. | ||
| So I just found it was seamless. | ||
| The only thing is, the kilometers thing, I truly haven't memorized that. | ||
| So I might have been pulled over once or twice. | ||
| Not because I was trying to go excessively fast, just because I wasn't paying attention. | ||
| And like 60 kilometers means nothing to my brain. | ||
| Did you have family in Canada or just? | ||
| Yeah, my father-in-law's in Pemberton near Whistler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So good place to go hunting. | ||
| Yeah, it's a nice area, man. | ||
| That whole Vancouver area is very nice. | ||
| Real estate is fucking stupid expensive, though. | ||
| It is on the mainland. | ||
| Where I live on the island, it's pretty affordable. | ||
| Oh, is it? | ||
| Yeah, Vancouver. | ||
| Which one is there? | ||
| Fucking bears on an island, though? | ||
| We do have bears on the island. | ||
| What kind? | ||
| Grizzlies? | ||
| There's black bears, and grizzlies just immigrated. | ||
| They swam across some strait. | ||
| There was one in my backyard not that long ago. | ||
| A grizzly? | ||
| No, a black bear. | ||
| I told the kids, don't play in the forest. | ||
| And why not? | ||
| Like, well, because the bears will eat you. | ||
| And I was serious. | ||
| I don't think they believed me, but. | ||
| Wow, and then they saw a bear? | ||
| Yeah, it was literally in our backyard. | ||
| How old were your kids when you moved into Canada? | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| My daughter must have been about two, maybe three, and my son was about one. | ||
| Okay, so they don't really remember the United States. | ||
| Not much, no. | ||
| So you brought them to a godforsaken land before they really had any memory of how good they had it? | ||
| We go back down. | ||
| We visit relatives and all that. | ||
| But it's one of those things where I have so many friends all over the U.S. and I'm really attracted to the Bay Area. | ||
| There's so much of what I do is there. | ||
| And I'm a tech guy. | ||
| I've been a tech entrepreneur. | ||
| And my people are there at the same time with Skype and with the internet and a two-hour direct flight. | ||
| You can live anywhere you want. | ||
| You could live in Idaho, Joe. | ||
| You could still even have your studio here and just come here and do it and fly back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's a weird world we live in now. | ||
| Terrence McKenna was actually pointing this out way back in the 90s when he was living on the big island. | ||
| He had a direct wireless connection, like a wireless internet connection that was like one megabyte back then, which is a lot. | ||
| It's huge, right? | ||
| Yeah, back then it was huge in the 90s. | ||
| And he had this completely off-the-grid house, including an internet connection. | ||
| He had this internet connection. | ||
| He had some solar panels. | ||
| He had a generator backup. | ||
| He had rainwater collecting because it rains over there. | ||
| It's essentially a tropical rainforest, the big island. | ||
| And so he was collecting rainwater. | ||
| And he's like, why would you live in an office? | ||
| I mean, why would you go to an office? | ||
| Why would you live in a city? | ||
| Why would you do that when you can be in nature and still communicate with people? | ||
| One word, girls. | ||
| That's true. | ||
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Like, if you want to meet people of the opposite sex, cities have their usefulness. | |
| So when you're young, I think there's a big attractiveness to the cities. | ||
| And I've been fortunate to live in big cities and to have that vibe and that energy. | ||
| Big difference. | ||
| Yeah, it is a big difference. | ||
| Yeah, I think when you're like a tiny little baby and like a two-year-old, cities are probably not that good for you. | ||
| So that's one of the reasons I'm like, all right, you know, I'm going to maintain my connections with all my friends, and I spend a lot of time traveling and all. | ||
| But at the same time, I know like when I go home, there's trees and everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's a sweet setup. | ||
| That island is beautiful. | ||
| And if you can live anywhere where you can get close to nature fairly quickly, it'll be a better place to live. | ||
| Yeah, the problem is if everyone does that, we're going to have to rethink how we produce our food. | ||
| We're going to have to distribute food production and we're going to have to make some changes. | ||
| But things would be kind of cool and we might drive less too because we would just have to work from home. | ||
| And let's face it, how many people are knowledge workers in the U.S. now versus production workers? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's not that much commuting you have to do for probably 50% of the population. | ||
| The areas of mass population are the weirdest ones. | ||
| The areas like Los Angeles or New York, those are the weirdest things to try to manage because you see them and you see all these people packed into this area and you just go, there's no way you're going to be able to move around quickly. | ||
| There's no way you're going to get into midtown Manhattan at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, shoot across town to the other side to meet your friend. | ||
| You're not going to get there. | ||
| There's just too many folks. | ||
| There's just too many folks and everyone's just jammed into this one fucking tube. | ||
| It's just not going to happen. | ||
| I don't know how that is ever going to get managed. | ||
| And it seems like New York City grows in population every year. | ||
| Los Angeles grows in population every year. | ||
| I love New York. | ||
| I love L.A. It's awesome to come and visit. | ||
| And even San Francisco, I just, having lived in cities like that for a while, I'm kind of getting used to just being outdoors a lot. | ||
| It's healthier. | ||
| It's a big difference. | ||
| And I don't know that I'll stay in a smaller town for a long time, but at least when my kids are young, I think it's good for them. | ||
| Until you get attacked by a bear. | ||
| And then you're like, you know what? | ||
| This ain't good. | ||
| There's a show that I've been watching on. | ||
| I think it's on Discovery Channel. | ||
| It's called Life Below Zero. | ||
| I haven't seen that. | ||
| Oh, these poor fucks. | ||
| They're all living in Alaska. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| Are those those remote town people who have to catch enough fish or they starve? | ||
| There's those. | ||
| That's Alaska, The Last Frontier. | ||
| That's one of them. | ||
| But this is a new one. | ||
| It's all people that live either above or below the Arctic Circle. | ||
| And this one guy just has this little cabin and just hunts all day. | ||
| That's all he does. | ||
| Goes out, tries to find food, brings it back, kills it, and eats it. | ||
| And then in the morning, does it all again? | ||
| And he has no water. | ||
| He gets his water from a lake. | ||
| He has to chip into the ice to pull his water out. | ||
| I mean, it's crazy. | ||
| These poor fucking people. | ||
| But they all seem to have a good time doing that. | ||
| It's real weird. | ||
| It's hard to tell. | ||
| Are you guys having a good time because the camera's on you? | ||
| Are you having a good time because this is actually thrilling and rewarding, a thrilling and rewarding way to live life? | ||
| I knew a guy like that up in Kenai, Alaska. | ||
| His name was George. | ||
| This guy was 84 years old. | ||
| When I went up, I spent a week fishing with him. | ||
| He owned this 100-year-old cannery, like right on Cook's Cove, and you had to get there by boat, so it was totally isolated. | ||
| And once a week, for like a half hour, he would plug this string of duct tape batteries into his mobile phone, and that was his only communication with people. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And this guy had been going up there every year and spending nine months a year for 50 years living by himself up there. | ||
| And the guy was happy as a clam. | ||
| Like, he had a pet bald eagle named Grandpa, and he'd like feed it fish scraps. | ||
| He could call it by name, and it would come. | ||
| Was there a documentary on this guy? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| He passed away about five years ago. | ||
| His name was George? | ||
| Yeah, George. | ||
| God, what was his last name? | ||
| I'd have to look it up somewhere. | ||
| See, the problem I have with that story is that the guy was by himself. | ||
| Like, you don't get lonely. | ||
| He had a wife who passed away 30 years earlier. | ||
| And he was one of the original Alaska, like, like, original guys who drove to Alaska, like, back in the 1920s or something. | ||
| And had all these stories and just an amazing dude. | ||
| But he was really comfortable. | ||
| Like, he caught fish. | ||
| That's what he did. | ||
| He had a big net. | ||
| And in fact, he had a Rolex. | ||
| Probably the coolest story ever. | ||
| I looked at him and I'm like, he's kind of this poor guy. | ||
| You know, looked like he was 60 and he was 84 and wears this yellow coverall things. | ||
| And I see this beat up Rolex. | ||
| And I did a double take. | ||
| And he laughed. | ||
| And he goes, oh, yeah. | ||
| I called the Rolex guy. | ||
| I told him I wanted a Rolex. | ||
| So he flew out here in a plane and he stepped out in a three-piece suit into the surf from the float plane and took one look at me wearing my fish guts and all and said, oh, I'm sorry, sir. | ||
| You're not a Rolex kind of guy. | ||
| And George looks at me. | ||
| He goes, Dave, I told him, oh, I just need that watch for work. | ||
| I already got a dress watch. | ||
| He wanted a Rolex that was gas charged so it wouldn't fog up so he wouldn't get caught in the tide and drowned. | ||
| And like the way these people look at the world, it was so cool. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| A Rolex guy flew out there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And how did he even contact Rolex? | ||
| You know, he was telling me the story from 25 years before. | ||
| So really, if you're going to drop 10K on a watch 30 years ago, they're going to fly someone there to sell it to you. | ||
| So the dude, where did he get the 10K? | ||
| From beaver pelts and shit? | ||
| No, from selling fish. | ||
| Selling fish. | ||
| Yeah, he had a great year catching king salmon. | ||
| He had a driftnet across the mouth of a river. | ||
| So he decided to buy a $10,000 watch? | ||
| His rationale was it was the only watch on earth that had gas inside it, so it could never fog up. | ||
| And he's like, if I'm out on the mud flats planting my things and the tide comes in, it comes in really fast and you have sticky mud. | ||
| So you can freeze to death in like a minute. | ||
| So he's like, I got to know what time the tide's coming in, so I'll spend any amount on the watch to keep me from dying. | ||
| And Rolex was the only one on Earth at the time. | ||
| Wow, that's interesting. | ||
| Is it still the only one, or can you get Everyone makes watches that don't fog up anymore. | ||
| I mean, this is going back. | ||
| This guy's old. | ||
| That's fascinating shit. | ||
| That's interesting that he knew that, too, that that was the only watch that doesn't fog up like that. | ||
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I guess when you live up in places like that, you just learn stuff. | |
| It just seems to me that like living on your own for nine months at a time would just drive you insane. | ||
| Well, he had people who'd come up and visit him. | ||
| So he'd get like college kids to come up, and he just kind of had like this rotating hunters and all would come. | ||
| And it was, I mean, rustic. | ||
| The only water came in from like a little waterfall with a little pipe, and it was heated by like coal that floated up on the shore. | ||
| It was as remote as I've ever been. | ||
| And this guy was just like one of the happiest guys I've seen. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They say people that live in those communities and they're living off the land, they say they're like the happiest people, no mental health issues. | ||
| That's the way our dumb bodies are designed. | ||
| Our dumb bodies are designed to live as our ancestors lived. | ||
| And this life that we live now with Wi-Fi connections and all this nuttiness is just too fucking complicated for us. | ||
| You know, I asked on Facebook, I said, hey, I'm going to go talk with Joe. | ||
| What should we talk about? | ||
| And definitely got some people asking about EMF. | ||
| So you talk about Wi-Fi. | ||
| I mean, this is one of those guys who had 10 minutes of Wi-Fi a week, and that was like all he ever got. | ||
| And, you know, ate a high omega-3, you know, all the salmon he could eat and not much else. | ||
| And he was also doing cold thermogenesis, right? | ||
| So he was literally exposing himself to freezing temperatures all the time. | ||
| And he looked 25 years younger than he was. | ||
| He was like not a day over 60. | ||
| And he was 84 years old when I had him. | ||
| Freezing temperatures are good for you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So like living in Colorado would be a good move? | ||
| It depends if you go outside without a jacket on. | ||
| So if you went outside without a jacket in Colorado, it's smart. | ||
| Preserving you. | ||
| Yeah, pretty much. | ||
| So I did this experiment about a year and a half ago. | ||
| And for the first month, you stick your face in ice water and it hurts like hell when you first do it. | ||
| But you need to do that to program your nervous system to get used to being in cold water. | ||
| And it turns off inflammation throughout your body. | ||
| And after you've done this for about a month, you can put ice packs on your body. | ||
| And then this drives you to lose fat. | ||
| It makes you make more brown fat, less white fat. | ||
| And inflammation really turns down in like kind of a stupid way. | ||
| You feel really like supercharged and you get lean. | ||
| Tim Ferriss wrote about just like putting ice packs on your back. | ||
| But you can take it further. | ||
| So I was sitting in a tub of ice water, like up to my neck, and it feels like you're going to die for about three minutes. | ||
| And then all of a sudden your whole body like gives up and you just like get all these endorphins and you just feel like amazing and relaxed. | ||
| And right when you're about to start shivering, you get out and you just burn massive calories and like you look better the next morning. | ||
| Like you're more lean. | ||
| And so I did that on a really regular basis for quite a while, but I'm on the road so much that it's just, it's hard to do. | ||
| And I fell asleep with ice packs on me in a hotel room once and that didn't end well. | ||
| I ended up getting like first-degree ice burns over 15% of my body. | ||
| I don't recommend that. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of cold therapy that athletes are using now to help recovery. | ||
| There's things they step into for a very brief amount of time. | ||
| It's incredibly cold. | ||
| I can't wait to try that. | ||
| It turns out that we've done the science and the faster you can make the skin cold, the better the anti-inflammatory response. | ||
| So they have like liquid nitrogen and they like blast you with it for just a very short period of time and the skin starts making the anti-inflammatory things and you get the response you're looking for, but it doesn't take much time and you don't like freeze your ass off like you do when I'm sitting in that tub of ice water, just dropping my body temperature until my skin is like 45 degrees and you get out. | ||
| And so when you do that, like if you do an ice bath after hard training, a lot of MMA fighters love to do that. | ||
| What's the physiological response? | ||
| What happens when you jump into that freezing cold water? | ||
| What's the benefit of that? | ||
| You turn down the cytokine response. | ||
| There's all these different cytokines that are tied to inflammation in the body. | ||
| And when you do that, it uses what's probably an evolutionary pathway for survival in people. | ||
| I don't think we're certain why it works. | ||
| That's one Hypothesis about it, but when you do that, it just turns off inflammation. | ||
| So, if you had a really heavy workout or hard fight and you do that, it stops the inflammation. | ||
| And, like you said earlier in our talk today, inflammation is at the root of most chronic diseases, and that's why you target inflammation every which way you can. | ||
| And cold therapy, if you've got the time to do it, is a very legitimate thing to do. | ||
| The problem is that fast cold therapy thing, I just checked, they're like $60,000. | ||
| It's like more than a really high-end float tank. | ||
| So, if you want to outfit your house with all the badass biohacking stuff, you're going to be throwing out some coin. | ||
| $60,000. | ||
| I couldn't afford that. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| What does it do? | ||
| Is it just a super freezer? | ||
| It's pretty much like flashy with liquid nitrogen. | ||
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| Cold enough that if you stayed in it for a minute or two, however long is too long, it would give you frostbite. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So you want to tell your body, frostbite is coming, and it causes physiological change, but then you don't let the frostbite come, so then you don't get the damage that would come from being too cold. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's fascinating. | ||
| Is it better than lying in an ice bath? | ||
| I don't know that I have an answer for that. | ||
| There's deep tissue temperature receptors, and then there's peripheral ones right on the skin. | ||
| So whether there's an advantage from just getting the skin ones or the ones like further down, I've never seen the research. | ||
| Someone might know. | ||
| I just chatted with Jack Cruz, who's one of the neurosurgeons who's done a lot of work on this, including like surgery without anesthetics afterwards, without painkillers, using just ice, and all this crazy stuff, including like massive weight loss with ice. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So there's definitely guys who know about that, but in all the research I've seen and all the people I've talked to, I've never seen a comparison of the two techniques other than one is faster and it costs more, but it takes less time. | ||
| It's very confusing for athletes when you hear all the different schools of thought when it comes to healing. | ||
| I mean, I've actually heard people say you should never ice things because then, you know, the body's natural healing is retarded by the ice. | ||
| And then when your body's swelling up and heating up, it's because your body's trying to fix whatever issue it has. | ||
| I don't buy that because I've heard all the arguments against that. | ||
| But I'm fascinated by the fact that there's people who are quote-unquote experts or so-called experts who will tell you that. | ||
| And there's other people that will tell you the total opposite of that. | ||
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That's why being a human guinea pig and this whole quantified self thing really matters. | |
| There's a lot of stuff that makes a lot of sense on its face. | ||
| And you look at it and go, oh, it must make sense. | ||
| Therefore, it is. | ||
| And like the whole thing about eat less calories and work out more, and you'll lose weight in a safe way and keep it off. | ||
| Well, it makes sense. | ||
| It just doesn't work. | ||
| And if you try it and you lose 25 pounds and gain 30 and lose 30 pounds and gain 40 and you do that over and over until you're a fat ass, at one point you're going to figure out that that is not a way to be healthy and thin and strong and to feel good. | ||
| But the problem is not that people are idiots. | ||
| It's that the assumption made a lot of sense. | ||
| So then it becomes dogma. | ||
| And instead of looking at the data, we look at what should work. | ||
| And then if it didn't work, it's because we didn't do it right or we didn't try hard enough. | ||
| And that little trap gets us on all kinds of things that seem like a good idea on their face. | ||
| I'd even say like the whole vegan approach. | ||
| It sounds like a good idea to be a raw vegan because you get enzymes and you get all these other things. | ||
| But I know a lot of people who got really sick, including me, from being a raw vegan, because of the anti-nutrients that were in the raw vegetables we were eating. | ||
| We didn't inactivate the vegetable defense systems. | ||
| So it's great to have a hypothesis and to test it. | ||
| But if you don't get the data, you don't look at how you're doing and see if it worked, then if you're a pro-athlete or not, especially then you should be getting the numbers. | ||
| Yeah, it's one of the more fascinating aspects of professional athletics, even if you're not into watching sports, is the leaps and bounds they're making as far as recovery and nutrition and finding out what helps the body perform in a certain way. | ||
| And by doing that, you know, it's sort of just like the trickle-down that you get from cars, car companies investing in race cars. | ||
| And then, you know, they develop better brakes for commercial vehicles, for commercial cars, for pedestrian or rather civilian cars, as opposed to the professional race car driver cars. | ||
| But those really high-level engineered cars, whether it's BMW or Porsche, all that stuff trickles down to the regular cars that consumers buy. | ||
| I kind of liked it when you had Victor Conte on, because when I look at the pro athletes who are cheating, I want to know what they're doing. | ||
| I'd rather that they weren't cheating. | ||
| I'd rather that they were free to tell people the techniques they were doing because it seems like the techniques that we're using at the very edges of human performance, whether it's military or pro-athletes, that those should be trickling through into the medical profession. | ||
| And we have a break there where a lot of times what they're doing is kind of like hidden or it's not talked about. | ||
| But rapid recovery for a pro-athlete ought to be able to make my grandmother heal better too. | ||
| And I feel like she isn't benefiting. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And injuries, you know, injuries that athletes get, regular people get injuries too. | ||
| And the leaps and bounds they've made in recognizing what benefits recovery, what doesn't, diet that benefits recovery, what nutrients you need, how important is protein, how important is this, what vitamins are good for you? | ||
| A lot of that is coming from that science of performance athletics because they're just looking for these tiny, tiny edges everywhere. | ||
| And these benefits are so small. | ||
| What you can get out of taking quartercepse mushroom or what you can get out of B12. | ||
| It's not going to make the difference between a guy like you or a guy like Usain Bolt. | ||
| You're never going to catch that dude. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| But it's going to be two Usain Bolts and one of them just wants to get a tenth of a second faster. | ||
| And in those small increments, that's where we learn so much about the human body. | ||
| You know where else is fascinating for me is World Championship poker. | ||
| Because those guys, it's all about focus and awareness, right? | ||
| You got to pay attention to all the other guys at the table, all their tells, all their things. | ||
| You got to think strategy, and you got to just grind it out. | ||
| It's like a marathon for your brain. | ||
| It's like they're going for 12 and 14 hours. | ||
| And I just literally got a text message before this, but JC Tran, who's in the World Poker Championships, I think actually happening right after this, he's totally on Bulletproof Coffee. | ||
| And so is one of the other guys. | ||
| But JC's actually, I just literally found out he's going to be wearing a bulletproof patch, and I'm grateful For that, because it wasn't planned. | ||
| I was going to do it. | ||
| Every time he said bulletproof, make a bell noise. | ||
| That was the wrong one. | ||
| Yeah, doorbell. | ||
| Open the door for bulletproof. | ||
| But it's one of those things where I look at those guys, and I've actually done brain training with Nam Lei, who's another one of these guys. | ||
| And they're some of the most dedicated cognitive athletes of anyone I can find. | ||
| Like, you have students and all, but that's not the same thing. | ||
| Like, where do you go to get the pro-athlete perspective on performance improvement, but to get it for people who want to pay attention all the time and think about stuff all the time? | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
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| No, I think those guys are probably, if you want, someone whose job relies on being clever and thinking many levels, pro-chess would be the only other people. | ||
| I got to find some chess. | ||
| What studies have ever been done, or have there been any done, that has anybody, even in personal studies, with bulletproof coffee and cognition or anything along those lines? | ||
| So there's a study, and I think my guys are probably ready to put up the summary graph from it, where we recruited 54 people. | ||
| We got an institutional review board approval for the study, like basically from the powers that be that say you're allowed to experiment on humans. | ||
| And we had them go through a period of drinking basically mass market coffee from the corner coffee shop versus drinking upgraded coffee, just black coffee versus black coffee. | ||
| And they did a battery of cognitive tests straight from like psychology research. | ||
| And they did the battery twice a day. | ||
| And they did this whole thing for six weeks. | ||
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| It's either seven of nine or five of seven. | ||
| I don't have it memorized. | ||
| Of the things we measured, there was a very substantial difference between the bulletproof coffee versus non-bulletproof. | ||
| And this wasn't testing it with the upgraded MCT or even better yet, the brain octane stuff. | ||
| This was just black coffee versus black coffee, then coffee with butter versus coffee with butter. | ||
| And it was interesting, butter actually had a negative response on one of the five, one of the seven, I guess, measures of cognitive function that we were looking at. | ||
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So this is a, it's pretty darn legitimate for like a small company. | |
| Like we funded this ourselves, and it wasn't, it's not a perfect study, but it doesn't look like there's a placebo effect because butter was supposed to be positive, but it was pretty much neutral with one negative. | ||
| So we're going to be putting this stuff up, but there's like more of the write-up that has to happen in order for it to be like an accepted paper and all that. | ||
| Now, as far as the negative impacts, you attribute the negative impacts of these other people drinking other coffee. | ||
| You attribute that to mycotoxins? | ||
| It's not just mold toxins. | ||
| Toxins from mold are a major, major contributing factor, and I damn well know that. | ||
| And there's a reason that in this little test we did, we found people had a difference there. | ||
| I'm particularly sensitive. | ||
| I've got the lab tests that show it. | ||
| And so I'm a canary for this. | ||
| And I know very well when coffee has it because I feel like a zombie. | ||
| And 28% of the population has the same genes I do that make them more susceptible to mold. | ||
| It's in the HLA part of your genetic code. | ||
| And it's how you respond to clotting and how you respond to infection. | ||
| So I have like a hyperactive immune response, which protects me. | ||
| If I was like a rogue invader in Europe, I'm well designed to get cut by a sword, shot by an arrow, and then go invade your town and not get sick. | ||
| The problem is if I'm like breathing toxic mold all the time or drinking it in my coffee, it's a chronic low-level exposure, but my body thinks I'm being attacked. | ||
| So I tend to clot too much. | ||
| I get sticky blood and I get chronic inflammation that won't turn off. | ||
| And that's one of the reasons that I'm sensitive to these things and I can feel them. | ||
| And then I went out and I did the work to quantify it. | ||
| So mold toxins are one of them, but there's hundreds of mold toxins. | ||
| So I went through and I identified which ones are causing this problem the most and I test for those. | ||
| And I talk about ocratoxin, I talk about aflatoxin, like the main ones, but there's other ones that are in some strains of coffee that aren't in others. | ||
| And then there's other things called biogenic amines. | ||
| And I look at those as well. | ||
| So when you quantify all that stuff, when you get the numbers right and get them far lower than even the European standards, you end up with some interesting effects from the coffee that just don't come out because most coffee has some good and some bad in it. | ||
| So like this is, A, I wanted to drink coffee. | ||
| I gave up coffee for five years because it was messing with my head. | ||
| So this was my own self-interest. | ||
| It's a legitimate scientific exploration on my part, partly because I wanted to drink good coffee, but also because like this is what I do. | ||
| Like this fascinates me and interests me. | ||
| And I did not expect the effects to be this big, especially on other people, but they're real. | ||
| And that study and what people say, I'm very sure of it. | ||
| It does make sense if there are toxins on coffee and those toxins are bad for you, that that would have a negative impact on cognitive function. | ||
| It totally makes sense. | ||
| But my question is, what are you doing different? | ||
| Like when you say the bulletproof method, what the fuck does that mean, man? | ||
| The problem is, like, you've got to tell people what you do that makes sense so that they understand how you can actually remove toxins. | ||
| Because the one piece of criticism that I hear all the time is like, how do you know that your coffee doesn't have mycotoxins in it and what is the method for preventing it? | ||
| So how I know is I send it through a medical, not medical, we'll call it an analytical laboratory. | ||
| You could do medical stuff with it. | ||
| But I have a set of internal standards that make it bulletproof or not. | ||
| If it doesn't meet the requirements, it's not coffee that I'm going to be putting in a bag and calling bulletproof. | ||
| But to get it to that point, that's the proof point. | ||
| Then you go back and you look at every step of coffee production. | ||
| And I'm not going to be telling the world how to make bulletproof coffee. | ||
| I spent a lot of time working on how to do this. | ||
| But what I do is I look at what are the sources for these toxins? | ||
| Why do they form? | ||
| How do they form? | ||
| And what's happening is there's old world, like they call it second wave coffee, like the original kind of Starbucks and Pete's coffee and these kind of, even before them, the Folgers and just the normal coffee companies that have been selling coffee for a long time. | ||
| They typically look at economics and then we started looking at flavor with the Starbucks. | ||
| And you have third wave coffee guys who I greatly respect as coffee artisans. | ||
| And these are like the modern, cool coffee shops where they roast their own beans. | ||
| And, you know, it was carefully selected by this. | ||
| And what the first round of people did is they said, how do I make coffee cheap and widely available and good enough To make a profit. | ||
| So that was an economic thing. | ||
| The second guy said, How do I make really flavorful coffee? | ||
| It was a taste thing. | ||
| And I came along and I said, How do I make coffee that makes me feel good all the time? | ||
| And I'm willing to sacrifice taste and I'm willing to sacrifice economics. | ||
| So I just had a different lens when I was looking at coffee because of my own personal wiring. | ||
| And in order to do that, I dug in on the agricultural side, is what happens there on the transport side. | ||
| And there's a whole decision tree about what you can do in order to get coffee to be bulletproof. | ||
| And it also depends on what part of the world you're dealing with, right? | ||
| So I've oftentimes recommended Central American coffee. | ||
| There's a little problem, though. | ||
| 70% of next year's coffee crop in Central America will probably be lost to coffee rust, which is a type of fungus. | ||
| And this fungus is going to completely decimate this. | ||
| And this kind of fungus called rust actually killed some South American things and Indonesian coffee for many years historically. | ||
| So it basically kills the plants. | ||
| It eats the leaves so they can't produce any coffee. | ||
| And some of the coffee analysts I've talked to are calling it like, you know, a bloodbath in Central America in terms of coffee. | ||
| You do a search for coffee rust, you'll see it. | ||
| And no one's sure how it got there. | ||
| But the Arabica plants that we rely on to make good coffee are particularly susceptible. | ||
| And shade-grown coffee doesn't get it because it has a protective fungal biome in the soil, which is something I look for, by the way. | ||
| So when you have a fungus that protects coffee from rust, it's likely to survive. | ||
| But when you go out to, say, sun-grown coffee, which we do to increase production, there isn't this other fungus in the soil, so then the rust can just run rampant. | ||
| So when we clear the forest, when we plant coffee in an industrial way, it increases the odds of bad fungus moving in. | ||
| And then there's a whole part of processing the coffee, where there's different techniques and different tweaks you can make in the coffee processing in order to influence the cost, the amount of time, the amount of materials required to process the coffee. | ||
| And I looked at that and said, I'm not trying to save money, and I'm not trying to create the world's most flavorful coffee possible. | ||
| I'm trying to create high-performance coffee. | ||
| And it turns out it tastes pretty darn good. | ||
| I've had Cup of Excellence winning coffee, which is so phenomenally delicious. | ||
| It has mold toxins in it. | ||
| I know very well because I'm a mold detector for it, and I get all the symptoms I get when I have molds, when I drink that. | ||
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I'm like, wow, it was still worth it because it was such good coffee. | |
| But I don't want to drink that for breakfast every morning because it slows me down. | ||
| It messes me up. | ||
| And there's enough people who are very sensitive to it that it's transformative. | ||
| And there's a bunch of other people who don't really feel a giant difference, but you can measure it on a cognitive function test. | ||
| Are you going to release any studies on other people's coffee? | ||
| Are you going to release any like- Is it expensive to test for it? | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| Original question, please. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, when you're talking about these coffees, like this has mycotoxins. | ||
| It has 25% of this. | ||
| So right now, let's take Starbucks. | ||
| And not to pick on Starbucks. | ||
| They're just a big coffee company whose numbers I know. | ||
| They have $816 million worth of coffee in inventory right now. | ||
| So in order to get an adequate sample size for $816 million worth of coffee, I am a very small company, and I spend tens of thousands of dollars on quantifying the coffee in order to get the bulletproof process where it is. | ||
| And I regularly test my own coffee. | ||
| So I don't know how I could possibly get a reliable sample, especially not knowing the back-end processing. | ||
| What I'd like to see is I'd like to see U.S. regulatory authorities adopt European standards for coffee. | ||
| That'd be a great first step. | ||
| But bulletproof coffee is popular in Europe as well because those aren't the only standards we can do. | ||
| So if that's the case, where are you getting your numbers from as far as other people's coffee? | ||
| There's about six different studies I've referenced at different times, and I don't have references in front of me on those things. | ||
| But one of the studies says around 92.3% of South American coffee had toxic mold spores in it. | ||
| And when you look at another one, it says 60%. | ||
| There's different studies. | ||
| Most of them say at least 50% of okratoxin makes it through the brew. | ||
| And I've also talked with some of like the top back-end coffee procuring experts. | ||
| They know about mold toxins in coffee. | ||
| And the coffee artisanal companies will stand up and say, our coffee is mold-free, but they don't measure it. | ||
| They don't even know which ones to measure or where to measure them. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah, so it was a lot of work. | ||
| It took a long time to do it. | ||
| How'd you get on this track? | ||
| My first thing I ever sold as an entrepreneur was I worked at Baskin-Robbins. | ||
| I was scooping ice cream to pay for my studies at University of California. | ||
| They raised my tuition 1,500%. | ||
| What? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And while I was at school there, this was like back in 1990. | ||
| I couldn't afford to go to school. | ||
| 1,500%? | ||
| Yeah, no joke. | ||
| They were building a new university center, so they just levied the crap out of students. | ||
| I didn't have enough money. | ||
| So I started a company. | ||
| I sold caffeine t-shirts, said caffeine, my drug of choice. | ||
| I was like 19 years old. | ||
| And I sold them to 12 countries over the internet. | ||
| And that was like, you know, ended up getting me an entrepreneur magazine. | ||
| So I've been a coffee guy since I was a kid. | ||
| I had to give up coffee for five years because I would drink it and I would get like a headache and I would get sore joints and I would just feel like, I'd drink it and I'd feel great and I'd crash and I'd feel like crap. | ||
| And what happened is I was getting autoimmune things because the toxic molds that grow in coffee cross-react with gluten. | ||
| That's a big problem because I'm gluten sensitive. | ||
| So what happened is I just gave up coffee and it made me sad. | ||
| And then I would drink a cup of coffee and I'd feel great. | ||
| And the next day I'd drink another cup of coffee and I'd feel like a zombie. | ||
| I'm like, what changed? | ||
| And finally I realized it wasn't me. | ||
| It was the coffee. | ||
| And I started doing my research and I started digging in. | ||
| So call it enlightened self-interest, but like there's no BS marketing here. | ||
| Like this is me intentionally creating coffee that I could drink every morning and putting it out there saying, do other people have this? | ||
| And the results were bigger than I thought they'd be. | ||
| I definitely notice a difference when I have your stuff or whether if I go to Starbucks. | ||
| Like sometimes Starbucks is fine. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's very fun. | ||
| And I'm not ultra sensitive to it, but there's a difference between the way I feel when I drink bulletproof coffee and the way I feel when I drink regular coffee. | ||
| But what other coffees are okay to drink? | ||
| Like how do you know what's okay to drink and what's not okay to drink? | ||
| You can get better odds by going to any coffee shop where there's lots of guys or girls with tattoos, piercings, and mohawks, right? | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Well, because people who are coffee people, and I count myself very enthusiastically amongst them, they're people who Are obsessive about it. | ||
| And if you go to a coffee shop like that, they're paying more attention to sourcing. | ||
| So you reduce the odds. | ||
| Now, I would very happily have just gone to the local, and you know, in the Bay Area, you can get lots of artisanal coffee shops. | ||
| You go to New York, you go to any big city. | ||
| There's a hundred guys competing to say, you know, my roaster is the shiniest and my beans come from Juan Valdez's great-grandson and all this stuff, right? | ||
| The problem is that the reliability isn't there. | ||
| And like, I'm not going to name names because it's a community. | ||
| I've been to some of the coolest, most amazing coffee shops in big cities, and I've come out of there drinking single estate, Central American, and it is not clean coffee. | ||
| It is wonderful tasting. | ||
| It is a work of art, but it doesn't cause the human performance I'm looking for. | ||
| And I know very well that it has molten toxins in it. | ||
| And I know that if I took it out and I quantified it, that I could show the difference. | ||
| You should do that. | ||
| You should go to places and just buy a cup of coffee at Pete's, buy a cup of coffee at whatever, and just test them. | ||
| Just four bucks in every state. | ||
| How much would it cost to do each individual test? | ||
| Even like a, I looked at like doing a sample size that would be useful for that. | ||
| We're talking like a quarter million dollars. | ||
| No, no, no, but I'm saying how much would it cost to test an individual cup of coffee? | ||
| It depends on which of there's different bulletproof panels I run, but it could cost in the neighborhood. | ||
| If I was to do like a full intensive analysis, it could cost around $5,000. | ||
| $5,000 for a cup of coffee. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Only for one. | ||
| So if you wanted to test four different companies, it would cost you $20,000. | ||
| And that's not four different companies. | ||
| That's four different samples. | ||
| Four different cups. | ||
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| So let's say you have a bag, a 100-pound bag of coffee that wasn't wrapped properly like mostly. | ||
| Would you test as a coffee or would you toss as a coffee? | ||
| You would test the beans. | ||
| What about the coffee itself? | ||
| Can you get a result from that? | ||
| It would be I'd have to do some work on understanding how you preserve a coffee sample to send it into an analytical lab so you don't get like a breakdown over time. | ||
| Even one hour after you brew coffee, it changes chemically quite a lot. | ||
| So I have no idea what the breakdown of mold toxins is over time in post-brewed coffee. | ||
| We have good data about whether brewing takes out the toxins. | ||
| And there's one study that says it takes out most of it, but all of the other studies say at least half, and some say upwards of about 80% remain. | ||
| And it's pretty well known that ocratoxin is a heat-stable toxin. | ||
| And that's just one of the ones we're testing. | ||
| Now, has anybody at any of these large chains, we don't want to mention any names, has anybody contacted you? | ||
| Has anybody said, hey, we're interested in what you figured out, and we would like to apply that method to our beans or whatever? | ||
| Has anybody done that? | ||
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I haven't had a formal inquiry, but there are spies amongst us? | |
| There are the gods of coffee, like people who are the power brokers behind the whole coffee industry. | ||
| And keep in mind, it's like the fourth largest commodity industry on Earth. | ||
| So what I'm doing is kind of disruptive because I'm sort of saying, guys, we can do better. | ||
| Because you've been doing mostly economics with a tiny bit of people who care a lot about flavor and all that. | ||
| But that's actually what about human health and human performance? | ||
| So I'm having some very interesting conversations along that front. | ||
| And I would love to see a way to get plantations bulletproof. | ||
| Dude, you're going to wind up like that dude who made the water car. | ||
| The car that runs on water. | ||
| They're going to ice you. | ||
| They're going to ice you. | ||
| If they do it, I hope it's like iced espresso. | ||
| They drown me. | ||
| Sweep that shit under the rug so quickly. | ||
| No, it's one of the things I so respect the guys who have done innovative brewing techniques. | ||
| Oh, now you're fucking the deck. | ||
| I see what you're doing. | ||
| I see what you're doing. | ||
| Good move. | ||
| I'm all over the coach. | ||
| At this point in time, you should really start kissing a little coffee ass. | ||
| I'm all over the coffee culture. | ||
| I thought about piercing myself just so I could fit in better. | ||
| But I mean, seriously, Joe, I go to high-end coffee shops and I marvel at the cool stuff they're creating and the cool vibe and the community and the culture. | ||
| And I'm not trying to dump on that stuff. | ||
| I'm just saying that if I want to feel at my very best, I literally... | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| What I was asking, though, is that if I was a guy who ran X company, some gigantic coffee thing, I must know about you by now. | ||
| There's no way they could not. | ||
| There is a denial there where they say, yeah, that's all BS. | ||
| But when I talk to some of the guys who have been working with coffee for 25 and 30 years, they will tell me flat out, yeah, we know about this problem. | ||
| Well, wasn't that on that show, Dangerous Grounds? | ||
| Wasn't that something that they covered? | ||
| Was there a show? | ||
| The book, I guess. | ||
| There's a television show on the travel channel about coffee. | ||
| I haven't seen that one. | ||
| I was thinking Uncommon Grounds, which is the most phenomenal coffee book ever. | ||
| That book is worth reading. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Yeah, it's a coffee book. | ||
| Yeah, it's about the history of coffee. | ||
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| It's not, at least I have it on my Kindle, so I can't tell you if it's picturesque or not. | ||
| But it's the whole history of the coffee business going all the way back. | ||
| And coffee has fueled South American dictators and Central American genocide. | ||
| It has changed the shape of economics and food marketing. | ||
| It's an amazing thing to read and understand. | ||
| And you can sort of see how the use of coffee has changed, but people don't know. | ||
| The Revolutionary War and the Civil War were totally coffee powered and they were a strategic asset. | ||
| And the reason that your parents drink watery coffee is because there was a spike in coffee pricing. | ||
| So the coffee marketing companies, the really big ones like Chase and Sanborn, they got together and they're like, let's convince people to use less coffee per cup and tell them it's the same so we can still charge more for less coffee. | ||
| That's why you have three quarters of a pound of beans in a bag. | ||
| That's the standard size. | ||
| The big mass marketing companies did this 30 years ago, and that's why it's three quarters of a pound. | ||
| That's fascinating. | ||
| Now, do you think that the transition during the Boston Tea Party thing, transition from tea to coffee, had anything to do with the way the direction this country went? | ||
| Why there's so many fucking psychos here? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Totally makes sense. | ||
| They get hooked up on this fucking wild jet fuel. | ||
| They've been sipping tea with pinkies up for their entire lives over in Mother England. | ||
| And then they come over here and they're gangster anyway, just for even making the journey. | ||
| It's a crazy move. | ||
| You could argue That, but the Enlightenment in Europe was all about coffee. | ||
| These people met and did all this, like, like the creation of science. | ||
| They were doing it at coffee houses drinking coffee, and the government was trying to shut down coffee houses, and they did it a few times because all the basically revolutionaries were gathering in coffee houses. | ||
| So then they come over here, they start drinking even more coffee, which they did in early America, quite a lot of coffee. | ||
| And then, what do you know? | ||
| They throw a revolution. | ||
| Totally makes sense. | ||
| Everybody gets all excited when they drink coffee. | ||
| It makes me feel like a revolutionary. | ||
| I remember working, like doing construction. | ||
| I fucking hated my job, but I would drink coffee and I'd actually start enjoying it a little bit. | ||
| Want to knock some nails in, just gives you a little endorphin rush. | ||
| That was Dunkin' Donuts coffee. | ||
| That's probably all mycotoxins. | ||
| You know, probably not all, to be perfectly honest. | ||
| You may go there and you may get a cup that's perfectly clean. | ||
| Just the odds are really low. | ||
| What are the odds? | ||
| If you had a guess, you're probably just guessing, right? | ||
| I am very much guessing here. | ||
| If you were to go to any of the mass market coffee companies, I mean, they're blending coffee from all over the place in ginormous amounts of it. | ||
| Your odds of getting something that's super clean are like 5% or 10%, if even that. | ||
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| When you think about it, you get coffee from all these different places. | ||
| It's all mixed in giant runs and all. | ||
| And then they measure whatever the legal requirements are here and then their own internal things. | ||
| But it's going to be like, how do you get it to the highest acceptable level versus the cleanest possible level? | ||
| It's a different study. | ||
| What are the studies that have been done on this shit? | ||
| On mold toxins? | ||
| Someone can find mold toxins and coffee. | ||
| Just Google Mycotoxin coffee and you'll see like, I mean, there's a lot of them out there. | ||
| Who's done them? | ||
| Agricultural commodities people, agricultural universities around the world. | ||
| There's some in Italy. | ||
| There's some in Argentina. | ||
| Bulletproof.exec.com first article. | ||
| I do link to a watch. | ||
| Why bad coffee makes you weak? | ||
| How to choose mycotoxin-free coffee on natural news. | ||
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| Oh, did they fuck you? | ||
| No, they didn't fuck me. | ||
| They just copied me. | ||
| Did they really? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Drink coffee that has been made via wet processing because mycotoxins often form during the drying process. | ||
| Wet beans are much less likely to contain in than dry beans. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| That is very true. | ||
| Do not drink decaffeinated coffee. | ||
| Caffeine actually protects coffee beans from the growth of mold. | ||
| Caffeine's a protective agent. | ||
| And this is really cool because the whole focus on avoiding anti-nutrients, all plants don't want to get eaten by animals. | ||
| The only plants that want to get eaten are the ones where you're supposed to poop the seeds out to fertilize them. | ||
| The rest of plants protect themselves. | ||
| So coffee doesn't want to get mold growing on it. | ||
| So caffeine is an antifungal agent that the coffee bean itself uses to keep molds from eating it because there's so much pressure to eat it. | ||
| There's also these other things called diterpenes that are in coffee, like cafestrol and cowhol. | ||
| And those are there for the same thing. | ||
| And those different things have other effects on the human body. | ||
| So positive effects, in fact, if you look at the effects of phenol on health, well, these diterpenes are phenols. | ||
| There's a lot of polyphenols in coffee, more so than in chocolate, more than in red wine. | ||
| So when you look at all these, those are there to protect the plant from fungal, biological, insect, and animal predators. | ||
| It just so happens that that one toxin that's made, that protects the bean from mold, caffeine, it has a positive effect on us. | ||
| So we really seek it out. | ||
| But if you take it out of the coffee, then the coffee has less protection than it should. | ||
| And here's the problem with decaf. | ||
| Decaf coffee doesn't taste very good. | ||
| So would you take the world's best, most like prize-winning beans and send them through a process that removes their flavor? | ||
| No, you take the moldiest, crappiest, lowest quality, lowest grade beans and you decaf those because people who drink decaf don't drink it for flavor. | ||
| If they did, they wouldn't drink decaf. | ||
| Yeah, why are they drinking it? | ||
| My mom has to drink decaf because she can't drink. | ||
| She doesn't have to drink coffee period. | ||
| She loves coffee, though. | ||
| She kind of does it for the taste, I guess. | ||
| I made my decaf beans because of people like that. | ||
| There's good studies that show decaf does good things for you. | ||
| And so it's a very small percentage of people, but the way I did it is I took bulletproof beans and I send them right over the border to the one place on earth where you can do Swiss water process, which is in Vancouver, and send them back over the border to Portland, where my roastery is. | ||
| And it's the best decaf I can make, and it's clean, but it still doesn't taste good. | ||
| Like, it's decaf, for God's sake. | ||
| So that's why decaf is bad. | ||
| It gets bad beans and it removes a protective element. | ||
| So it has to be super fresh decaf, and it has to be made from proper beans. | ||
| And most companies, in fact, no company I know of, and isn't like Starbucks decaf actually have caffeine in it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All decaf has some caffeine in it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But most of the decaf out there is done using volatile organic chemicals like hexane and things like that. | ||
| Oh, that sounds good for you. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I mean, just it's a thing that you can use to dissolve the caffeine out of the coffee. | ||
| So it turns out chemical process decaf tastes a little better than Swiss water process, but it has residues from the solvents that they use. | ||
| So it's a toss-up. | ||
| Do you want more flavor and more residues, or do you want like cleaner decaf coffee? | ||
| Now, what other foods contain mycotoxins that people should like avoid? | ||
| Grains are a terrible, terrible problem. | ||
| Corn is, right? | ||
| Corn, like 90 to 98% of corn is infected with fusarium fungus on the stalk. | ||
| It actually comes in through those little tassels on the end of it. | ||
| So by the time you get it, there's already some in there. | ||
| It'll grow in fresh corn on the cob if it's not iced right after you pick it. | ||
| But if you dry the corn, I mean, there's humidity levels, there's different amounts of things like that that influence this. | ||
| But dried corn is universally something that's going to have levels of fusarium and the associated toxins it makes. | ||
| And depending on the strain of fusarium, you can get trichostine, you can get ocratoxin, or you can get fusaricin, which is another toxin. | ||
| You don't need to memorize all these names, but you should know that dried corn, even like the vegan dried corn, you know, tortilla chips or whatever, are a potential risk. | ||
| And again, it varies by season. | ||
| It varies by part of the world. | ||
| It varies by how dry it was. | ||
| If it's too dry, you get mold because the plants are stressed. | ||
| If it's too wet, you get mold because the plants were too wet. | ||
| So it's an agricultural commodity. | ||
| It's not a constant level. | ||
| And the main argument for avoiding these things is that we evolved to handle eating something bad, right? | ||
| You throw up, you feel crappy, you might get headache, you might get sick, and then you recover, you excrete the toxins, and you go on and you kill the next animal, you pick the next tuber, and that's how it works. | ||
| But we never were meant to eat a low level of these toxins every single day and every single meal. | ||
| It creates low-grade chronic stress, which leads to low-grade chronic inflammation. | ||
| And the level of safety for okra toxin, just one of these toxins that the European Union has for their citizens, is five parts per billion. | ||
| You're not going to see mold on your coffee. | ||
| You're not going to taste it. | ||
| It is part per billion. | ||
| Why did they set that level? | ||
| It's not because they're smoking crack. | ||
| It's because that's a level where you start seeing a problem. | ||
| Here's one way to know that you got, this is like the poor man's mold detector test for your coffee. | ||
| If you drink a cup of coffee and you have to pee soon after you drink it and your pee is clear, that's a really good sign that you got mold toxins. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| The reason for that is that those mold toxins, ocrotoxin, is particularly rough on the kidneys and bladder. | ||
| In fact, it's linked to bladder cancer. | ||
| So your body, being pretty smart, actually, as an evolutionary kind of thing, will sit there and say, oh, I've got this toxin. | ||
| It's here. | ||
| Well, why doesn't it make you pee after you eat corn? | ||
| It does, depending on the corn. | ||
| Corn makes you pee? | ||
| It depends on which corn. | ||
| You ever heard that? | ||
| Have you known? | ||
| History of the world. | ||
| Have you ever heard, man, I hate eating corn because I don't like peeing? | ||
| People don't like drinking coffee because it makes them pee. | ||
| People say caffeine's a diuretic. | ||
| It's a very weak diuretic. | ||
| What's a very strong diuretic is ocratoxin? | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Caffeine is a weak diuretic? | ||
| So when you're drinking Red Bull and you have to piss like a fucking wild racehorse, what's that all about? | ||
| Because there are ocratoxins in Red Bull. | ||
| There's a little bit of fructose in there, isn't there? | ||
| Fructose makes you pee? | ||
| Well, so fructose is one of those things that causes advanced glycation end products in the body. | ||
| It's one of the most damaging sugars to deal with. | ||
| So your body really wants to flush toxins out as fast as it can. | ||
| So whenever you have something that makes you have to pee and pee clear, as long as you haven't been like chugging gallons and gallons of water just to dilute your pee that way, what's going on there is your body pulled hydration, pulled water out of your tissues, put it into your kidneys and bladder so it could reduce the concentration. | ||
| You want to dilute the toxin as much as possible and then pee it out as soon as possible. | ||
| So what you'll find when you pee and it's clear, you're not peeing like two gallons of water. | ||
| You have to pee, it's clear pee. | ||
| It's your body saying excrete the toxins faster, excrete them faster. | ||
| And if you just look at the color of your pee, how often you pee and the volume of your pee, you can pretty much tell whether you had toxins in the previous several hours. | ||
| So you think that it's actually the fructose that's making people pee when they drink redose? | ||
| Fructose does make you have to pee more. | ||
| Caffeine has an effect. | ||
| Unquestionably, I'm not saying caffeine is not a diuretic. | ||
| I'm absolutely saying it is a diuretic. | ||
| It's just not as strong a diuretic as bad coffee. | ||
| That the extra big boost, like the super urgent having to pee, is a different feeling than I need to pee more than I had to pee before. | ||
| And if you use a weak diuretic, your pee is going to be more yellow than it is white. | ||
| Because I find that when I drink Red Bulls, like if I work for the UFC, if I drink a Red Bull, god damn, I got to pee. | ||
| Like quickly. | ||
| But I can drink a cup of coffee and be fine. | ||
| I'd have to see what else is in there. | ||
| But there's a difference. | ||
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Red Bull versus coffee. | |
| How do you tell with corn then? | ||
| How do you tell with microtoxins that are on grain? | ||
| If you're eating a taco, okay, it's got corn in there. | ||
| It's got meat from grain-fed animals. | ||
| And we can talk about how grain-fed animals accumulate this one toxin. | ||
| Actually, they accumulate lots of the toxins from molds in their food. | ||
| But we talked about it earlier with oatmeal. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| We did with a grass-fed and grain-fed. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| And there's some seasonal effects there too, like especially in pork. | ||
| So you get all this stuff stacked up, and then you're like, okay, I ate this meal. | ||
| End of the day, was the meat deep-fried or not? | ||
| All of those have different heterocyclic amines, acrylamide, all these things form. | ||
| So your body's going to say, all right, taking all this stuff in as a total, including what was the ratio of protein versus fat and protein versus carbs, too much protein makes you have to pee more to get that out too. | ||
| So it's going to do all that and it's going to do something. | ||
| But if you eat a meal of just corn or just corn and a couple things like corn and butter, you know butter doesn't make you have to pee, you may notice a difference. | ||
| You may not too. | ||
| There's probably also some individual sensitivities there around like allergies to corn and zine and whether the corn is genetically modified or not. | ||
| But the main point is that if you have to pee urgently, look at what you just did in the previous half hour to two hours maybe, and you're very likely to say, wait, there's something in there that was different than the time before because it's not normal to go, I have to pee right now. | ||
| If you're getting that, there's something going on in your body and your body's saying, get this crap out of here. | ||
| Is it okay to grow your own corn? | ||
| Can you like grow your own corn and eat that? | ||
| Or will that have mycotoxins on it as well? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| The difficulty with fresh corn is that as soon as you pick it, you want to blanch it and freeze it, which is what we traditionally did. | ||
| You get frozen corn on the cob. | ||
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| Why? | ||
| Well, if you blanch it and freeze it, then it doesn't decompose at all. | ||
| You get perfectly fresh corn. | ||
| Does it taste just as good as if it was fresh? | ||
| It depends how you're going to cook it. | ||
| One of my favorite ways of doing corn is you get fresh organic corn that was literally picked the day before, hopefully packed in crushed ice. | ||
| Like that's what the farmer's market should be doing when they bring that stuff in. | ||
| And then you take that, you just toss it on the grill and like let it steam inside the husk. | ||
| Like it's amazing. | ||
| Roll it in a whole bunch of butter. | ||
| That's going to be pretty darn safe. | ||
| But if that same stuff was two or three days old, like it might be in the grocery store, and the outside's a little bit kind of crinkled looking and a little gray, I actually noticed a big difference from that. | ||
| Granted, I'm a canary. | ||
| But if I feel a huge difference, there's a difference in the toxin level. | ||
| And what I'm learning in the course of just writing this and having all these people come to the website and share experiences there, they're noticing the same things. | ||
| Like, wow, I got really tired after that meal and I don't normally get really tired. | ||
| Like, what could have caused it? | ||
| And then we trace it back. | ||
| And I'm like, well, here's the most likely mold toxin containing things in there. | ||
| Why don't you experiment with those? | ||
| Eat those again. | ||
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And it's like, wow, like it was, it was that batch of cashews. | |
| That's what messed me up. | ||
| I didn't understand. | ||
| I lost two hours of productive time today because I was eating a bad batch of cashews. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| Like, that's the nature of food. | ||
| And it sucks. | ||
| It's so weird that it's nuts, too. | ||
| That it's nuts and grains. | ||
| All the good stuff. | ||
| Do you think that they're going to ever have a method to weed that stuff out and find out how to give people healthy food? | ||
| And we have this as an issue? | ||
| have the methods. | ||
| Okay, but why don't... | ||
| Do you ever think there's going to be a time where this is applied stuff? | ||
| Like this is going to be, right now this is a pretty fringe conversation as far as like the mainstream ideas of health and nutrition. | ||
| If you talk to a food safety scientist, you talk to CDC, you talk to FDA, they have mold toxin, they have salmonella, they have E. coli, and they have specialists who are tracking all this stuff. | ||
| The problem is that testing is spotty. | ||
| Sampling is a difficult thing to do. | ||
| Like how many samples can you take from where? | ||
| Things change over time. | ||
| Like those bins where you're storing stuff in the bulk section at the grocery store, how often are those bins cleaned out? | ||
| Because a lot of this contamination happens. | ||
| If you test it after it's picked, it's pretty clean. | ||
| You put it in a dirty silo during storage before it's packaged up in that organic store where you go to, it's going to pick up mold spores there and they're going to keep growing on the dried stuff unless you controlled humidity and temperature. | ||
| And not a lot of times do people do that. | ||
| So it's just a really complex supply chain. | ||
| And the bottom line is fresh local food avoids this problem entirely. | ||
| This is one of the reasons the industrialization of our food supply is creating more chronic stress in people. | ||
| And this is a problem that is real. | ||
| We know it's real. | ||
| And we know about the acute problems. | ||
| People poisoned by mold toxins. | ||
| People get liver cancer from aflatoxin. | ||
| They test aflatoxin in peanut butter because it was such a problem. | ||
| The problem is that there's a difference between it killed you and it knocked you down for a week and you went to the hospital and I had a crappy day. | ||
| Have you talked to somebody who has mold in their house, black mold in their house? | ||
| I had black mold in my house at least two, actually more than two times. | ||
| I can count three times in my life. | ||
| What? | ||
| I grew up in a basement that had been flooded. | ||
| We didn't know this in the 80s, right? | ||
| I had nosebleeds 10 times a day. | ||
| It's one of the reasons I'm as sensitive as I am now. | ||
| So literally, all the time, and I would get bruises all over my body for no reason. | ||
| These are ghost signs. | ||
| You were being haunted. | ||
| What was going on? | ||
| They were getting you in your sleep. | ||
| It could have been that vampire bat. | ||
| Could have been, man. | ||
| Vampires and ghosts both like you. | ||
| You're yummy. | ||
| Here's what actually happened, as opposed to the ghost theory. | ||
| Although I kind of like that one. | ||
| Your body uses vitamin C to make glutathione in the liver. | ||
| Glutathione is the main detoxing enzyme there. | ||
| Your body also uses vitamin C to make collagen in your tissues. | ||
| Your arteries and veins are made out of collagen. | ||
| So if you have to make a life and death decision biologically between detoxing the liver and building collagen, you will always choose protect the liver first because you can always make more collagen later. | ||
| So I was shunting all my vitamin C. I didn't supplement back then. | ||
| You know, I'm just a kid eating, you know, McDonald's. | ||
| And so I would shunt whatever vitamin C was in my diet directly to my liver to help detox what I was breathing in. | ||
| And it didn't help that I'm one of the 28% with the genes that don't handle mold, especially aerosol mold very well. | ||
| And that's why I was getting bruising because I couldn't hold my blood in my nose or here, you know, just in my arms and legs. | ||
| I just have all these bruises where I couldn't, I didn't like, I was playing soccer, but no one, you know. | ||
| Sounds good, but I'm going with ghosts. | ||
| All right, I'll buy the ghosts. | ||
| And what is glutathione, dude? | ||
| Glutathion is one of the major cellular antioxidants in the body, and it's the thing that the liver uses for most of its detoxification. | ||
| And a biochemist or a biologist is going to say, well, there's P450 pathways, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| But basically, when you drink, you suck the glutathione out of your liver. | ||
| And if you run out of glutathione, you start getting alcohol-induced liver damage. | ||
| When you take Tylenol, it causes liver damage if it depletes your glutathione. | ||
| So it's in your best interest to keep your cellular levels, your intracellular levels, and your liver levels of glutathione as high as you can so you can be more resilient in the face of toxins. | ||
| And as a kid, I didn't have very good glutathione because I was taking all of my vitamin C and giving it to my liver because I lived in a basement with toxic mold, not knowing it, but I had all the asthma and ADD and a lot of these things that are directly tied to what I was breathing. | ||
| We just didn't know it at the time. | ||
| We went to all these different specialists. | ||
| No one could say boop, but my symptoms line up perfectly. | ||
| And I have all the lab tests showing my immune system is magically reactive to like nine of the top 10 most toxic molds. | ||
| So you take glutathione, you also take collagen. | ||
| Like what other shit do you take? | ||
| I actually make those things because I couldn't find a good grass-fed collagen out there. | ||
| And so I prefer eating grass-fed animals because it's better for the environment and it's better in general from a health perspective. | ||
| So I take grass-fed, pre-digested, hydrolyzed collagen. | ||
| So you don't even have to digest it. | ||
| It just absorbs. | ||
| I even put that in my bulletproof coffee sometimes, like if I lifted or I did something strenuous the day. | ||
| Once every year. | ||
| Once a year you lift. | ||
| It's a month. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Give me credit, no. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| I've been working out more on the vibe lately, so I've been increasing my protein intake to account for physical activity because I've decided I need to get my sense of proprioception, get my body lined up right, so I'm doing more work on it. | ||
| Daenefix, son. | ||
| That's what you need to do. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And then I take glutathione, and this has been a problem because glutathione is a really complex sulfur-bearing molecule. | ||
| It's big. | ||
| So when you eat glutathione, it gets digested and you don't get any, it doesn't absorb. | ||
| So you can take a glutathione pill and nothing happens. | ||
| So the old way of doing this was to take vitamin C and an amino acid called N-acetylcysteine. | ||
| And these combine maybe with alpha-lapoic acid if you want to be fancy and help you make glutathione. | ||
| But it's rate-limited by an enzyme. | ||
| So the upgraded glutathione that I make now uses a technique out of actually the pharmaceutical industry. | ||
| And we encapsulate the glutathione molecule in phosphatidylcholine, which is basically a healthy form of the fat that insulates your nerves. | ||
| And your body loves choline. | ||
| In fact, it's one of the things in alpha brain. | ||
| There's things that help you have more choline. | ||
| So it loves this stuff. | ||
| And then we tie another molecule onto it called a lactopherin that your immune system loves. | ||
| So when this hits the wall of your stomach, your stomach's like, oh yeah, and it sucks it right in, which raises the blood levels much higher than you can get via any other method that I've experimented with. | ||
| And I've done a lot. | ||
| I've done IV glutathione, actually quite a lot of it, going back historically, but it costs $150 and it takes an hour to inject the stuff. | ||
| So we're getting fantastic results from people who just take this oral stuff. | ||
| And that's what I take. | ||
| And I take it on a regular basis because I want to be more resilient. | ||
| Number one, I wasn't born with a very resilient body. | ||
| I have like one kidney. | ||
| Like I actually have some spina bifida, believe it or not. | ||
| Like my lower spine isn't fully fused. | ||
| So I didn't start out strong and I'm pretty stoked with where I am. | ||
| But I do things like glutathione. | ||
| I do things like collagen, like coffee, everything I can find on the planet that brings me back to above the level I've ever performed before. | ||
| And like glutathione, understanding as a kid, I didn't have enough of it, and that affected my health, made me more aware of its role in the body today. | ||
| So I could do the stuff that I'm doing now, which honestly, like, I take all my own stuff because it works for me. | ||
| That's pretty fascinating. | ||
| You know, A lot of people are skeptical about the possibilities that they're experiencing that much issue in their life because of toxins, because of things that are just naturally in the diet and a slow sort of leak of poison into your body. | ||
| I never even thought about it that way. | ||
| But if you have a house that has fucking black mold in it, that is exactly what it's like. | ||
| If you have a house that... | ||
| You've had it. | ||
| But have you ever talked to someone who almost died from that? | ||
| I know a dude who was like, literally thought he had AIDS and found out that it was just some fungus living in his house. | ||
| They tested me for AIDS. | ||
| Did they? | ||
| My doctor said, Dave. | ||
| He looked at you. | ||
| He said, he goes, this guy's like really an amazing dude. | ||
| He said, Dave, people don't see me as many times as you've seen me. | ||
| Like, you're not getting better. | ||
| I don't know what the deal is here. | ||
| And he tested the heck out of me. | ||
| And we finally figured out that it was toxic mold. | ||
| How much of a real issue is it when people get fat? | ||
| Is mold? | ||
| No, fat. | ||
| Just fat itself as well. | ||
| Being fat itself. | ||
| How much of an effect is it? | ||
| It's being overweight. | ||
| It has a big effect, right? | ||
| That's less of a... | ||
| And that's the other side of what I do with the supplements that I make. | ||
| It's about increasing mitochondrial function. | ||
| And if you have a fueling problem, an energy management problem in your body, and being fat is a great sign of that, you need to figure out why and you need to correct it. | ||
| Because when your body works well, you shouldn't be fat. | ||
| Have you noticed this trend where you're not supposed to bring up the fact that people are fat? | ||
| And it's called fat shaming. | ||
| Have you seen this? | ||
| I've seen some things on Facebook. | ||
| Discussing fat or even better, celebrating the fact that you're thin is fat shaming. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| There was a woman. | ||
| Fucking people. | ||
| What about thin shaming? | ||
| Well, you know what it is, man? | ||
| It's just people trying to find some sort of an excuse for why they are the way they are and an excuse to continue to be the way they are without feeling any repercussions from socially from other people. | ||
| This is a woman. | ||
| She had this picture. | ||
| She put it on Facebook. | ||
| It's her. | ||
| She's in a bikini or like a little, you know, one of those little CrossFit outfits or something like that. | ||
| And she has her three kids there. | ||
| Oh, I saw that picture. | ||
| And the picture says, what's your excuse? | ||
| And people were saying, you're fat shaming. | ||
| A lot of people have different lives. | ||
| Like, whether or not someone has a different life and whether or not someone has a different issue with their body. | ||
| That's not what she's saying. | ||
| She's saying, what's your excuse? | ||
| Because this is what she's been able to do. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Everybody's different. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Some people have a bad situation that they're in financially. | ||
| Some people have bad genetics. | ||
| Some people they've been taught poorly, whatever, diseases, all the above. | ||
| But that's not fat shaming. | ||
| She's celebrating the fact that she's thin. | ||
| You know, and this fat shaming thing that people love to say now is it completely alleviates any responsibility you have for your own physical shape. | ||
| It's like they want to take it out of the equation that social aspect of being fat, like there's a reason for it. | ||
| The reason for it is it's not healthy for you. | ||
| There's the girl, if you look at that picture up there. | ||
| What's your excuse? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's a reason why that exists is because people see what you're doing and they don't like the way it looks on you because they're scared of it being on them. | ||
| When someone sees a morbidly obese person, the reason why they're staring is not because they're trying to shame that person. | ||
| It's a natural freak out. | ||
| Your body recognizes, oh shit, that's possible too. | ||
| I could do that. | ||
| God damn, I better not do that. | ||
| I don't want to do that. | ||
| That looks awful. | ||
| Oh my God, that guy's going to die. | ||
| That's not fat shaming. | ||
| That's a natural thing that people do where they recognize success and failure in their environment. | ||
| And that success and failure is as much social success and failure as it is physiological health. | ||
| If you see someone that's super unhealthy, coughing and smoking a cigarette, that feeling is not cigarette smoking shaming, okay? | ||
| That feeling is you're recognizing that someone is doing something incredibly unhealthy and that possibility exists for you too. | ||
| Here's the thing, Joe. | ||
| That feeling is not a rational response. | ||
| It's a self-defense system in the body that happens before you even think about it. | ||
| This is the body going, like naturally animals don't want to spend time with other sick animals either. | ||
| Like they'll move away from the sick ones. | ||
| And when we see someone, when our body, our meat operating system sees someone who's sick, we naturally want to create space. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| So I weighed 300 pounds. | ||
| I was fat for like half my life. | ||
| And let me tell you, every fat person on earth knows they're fat. | ||
| They do not feel happy about it and they desperately want to fix it. | ||
| But they don't want you to rub it in their face, Dave Asprey, because that's fat shaming. | ||
| You make me feel bad. | ||
| If you show your six-pack, if you just pull that up like 15 minutes a month, bitch, boom, and show that six pack on Instagram, you're fat shaming. | ||
| Isn't that hilarious? | ||
| You could fucking work out every morning, an hour and a half a day, get yourself in shape, take a picture, and people would be angry because they didn't. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| They would be not inspired. | ||
| Well, of course, but they're saying you're fat shaming. | ||
| They're angry because they're trying desperately stuff that doesn't work, and when it does not work, often. | ||
| Fair point. | ||
| There's some people who just have given up. | ||
| I would say most. | ||
| I would say most people who are talking about fat shaming are just stuffing Twinkies down their fucking mug. | ||
| The people talking about fat shaming have emotional issues, I would guess. | ||
| But they find support online. | ||
| That's what I find fascinating. | ||
| People agree with them. | ||
| The people that called that woman a fat shamer, it was a lot of them. | ||
| She had to apologize, but she was disingenuous in her apology. | ||
| I feel a lot of compassion for her. | ||
| I should explain why she's so disingenuous. | ||
| She did some interview where she was talking about, you know, like when she said, what's your excuse? | ||
| Like, she came up with some sort of a real softened down version of what she meant by, what's your excuse. | ||
| You know, but what she meant is, she's not fat. | ||
| Look, I'm hot. | ||
| What's your excuse? | ||
| Here's my kids. | ||
| I'm hot. | ||
| It's pretty obvious what she meant. | ||
| And she was like, what's your excuse for not meeting your goals? | ||
| I kind of get mad though when people say your excuse is that you're lazy and your excuse is that you didn't work out enough and you didn't diet enough. | ||
| Because dude, I beat myself up. | ||
| I broke my metabolism. | ||
| I broke my thyroid gland working out all the time and eating a low-fat, low-calorie diet. | ||
| And all it did was make me fat and sick and tired. | ||
| Like it doesn't work. | ||
| So it's really annoying when you get these people who are genetically gifted, have a good metabolism, and never got a chronic illness or whatever the heck works so they could basically look good without too much work. | ||
| And they stand up there and say, you know, you didn't do enough of this. | ||
| But when the fat people try and go for a jog, when you weigh 300 pounds, you try and go for a jog, it's destructive on your tissues. | ||
| So you get all these fat people who are trying and just failing miserably and feeling bad about themselves because they did it because they got the wrong advice. | ||
| Like that's why I started just putting some of this stuff up there. | ||
| I don't have to work. | ||
| I don't have food cravings. | ||
| All that stuff I struggled with like for a lot of my life, it just isn't something I have to think about anymore. | ||
| And it kind of upsets me when I see, you know, fat people who are feeling guilty and like fighting all their willpower on these cravings that they're just because like they're doing it wrong, but they don't know they're doing it wrong. | ||
| So then they feel guilty and they get caught in all this emotional stuff. | ||
| And like it's unnecessary. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like there's got to be a way to get healthy food to people and make it a part of everyone's everyday diet. | ||
| But then you start considering the numbers of people in Los Angeles. | ||
| And if there's 20 million people getting everybody grass-bred beef and getting everybody MCT oil. | ||
| They're going to have to take over some golf courses. | ||
| We're going to have to put cows on them. | ||
| Is that what they're going to have to do? | ||
| You could feed an awful lot of cows on some of these crap. | ||
| You're not going to stop people from golfing. | ||
| There's too many rich dudes like golfing. | ||
| There needs to be a fast food company that just takes over and just starts doing it because that's the biggest problem is people just need fast food. | ||
| You know, they need fast food that's actually healthy. | ||
| There's a couple attempts. | ||
| There's a guy from one of the early Whole Foods guys and some McDonald's guys got together and like they'll make something that's I'm forgetting the name of what they're trying to do, but they'll make something that's better than it was. | ||
| But is it going to be non-GMO even? | ||
| Is it going to be gluten-free? | ||
| No, probably not because we have to understand the core tenets of what makes us healthy and we have to understand those widely before there's demand for them. | ||
| So the number one predictor for whether you're going to be obese or not is your income level. | ||
| The poorer you are, the fatter you are. | ||
| That's especially true in America. | ||
| And that's a food quality issue. | ||
| And it's just not fair the way things are set up that way. | ||
| But if you're poor, you have a hard time getting food that doesn't make you inflamed. | ||
| It doesn't break your insulin. | ||
| It doesn't contain things that make you weak in it. | ||
| And it's tragic. | ||
| It shouldn't be that way, but that's how it is. | ||
| There's a blog I read about thin privilege just to sit there. | ||
| That's another thing. | ||
| That's another way of saying fat shaming. | ||
| The other side of saying fat shaming is that being thin, you are enjoying thin privilege. | ||
| And that by dating success and all that? | ||
| No, not just dating success, but the way people dress you and the way you move around in society. | ||
| That you enjoy thin privilege. | ||
| And what they're trying to do is compare being in shape with being a white male. | ||
| Like white male privilege. | ||
| White male privilege is almost shameful. | ||
| You know, it's almost shameful to have this white male privilege while people are star. | ||
| It makes you feel like if someone talks about white male privilege, what do you think of? | ||
| You think of someone being aloof to the concerns of brown people and poor people and racism and also aloof to the fact that they got super lucky. | ||
| They got this lucky roll of the dice and were born in this way that allows them to be, I mean, if you think about white males, think about white males and you think about wealth. | ||
| The majority of the super wealthy people are white males. | ||
| The majority of the people that are in positions of power, whether it's presidents, mayors, white males. | ||
| So that white male, being a white male and having that privilege is almost like being a pig. | ||
| It's like being the man. | ||
| So thin privilege. | ||
| They've figured out a way to make being thin being a pig. | ||
| That is so. | ||
| Thin privilege. | ||
| Not I'm fat. | ||
| Not I'm lazy. | ||
| That's all. | ||
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| Yes. | ||
| It's a little bit of that, but it's also, it's, you pulled up the blog, right, Brian? | ||
| Did you pull up one of the blogs? | ||
| It's also alleviating themselves of personal responsibility and finding a new victim or a new culprit. | ||
| And the culprit is not their own lack of self-respect or their own willpower or their own ability to discipline themselves or their own ability to educate themselves on proper nutrition. | ||
| That's out of the equation. | ||
| It's no longer their responsibility. | ||
| Now, instead, they'll concentrate on thin people having an ass that fits in an actual airplane seat and being able to squeeze on in an actual escalator. | ||
| All of these things these fat fucks are complaining about and calling thin privilege. | ||
| You've got to knock willpower out of that list. | ||
| There is no lack of willpower in fat people. | ||
| Willpower is a finite resource. | ||
| You have so much you can use. | ||
| We've proved this beyond a doubt. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Willpower, there's a whole book about this now, and I'm, of course, forgetting the name of the author, but they actually show that there's so many decisions you can make. | ||
| I wrote about this a while back. | ||
| There's decision-making fatigue, and there's X amount of willpower, and you can apply that willpower to change the world, or you can apply that willpower to say no to the bowl of chips in front of you, right? | ||
| And if you're a fat person and your energy reserves are low, and I say this from personal experience, the amount of willpower it takes to get up off the couch and walk across the street and do whatever you're going to do, it requires a hell of a lot more willpower than you would think it would as a healthy person because your cells aren't working. | ||
| You don't have the energy and yet you get up and you do it. | ||
| And every step you take is sapping your willpower in a way a healthy person doesn't have. | ||
| Oh, I see what you're saying. | ||
| So you're saying that even though willpower is sort of an individual characteristic and some people have it and some people don't, with fat people, it's almost like a catch-22 because although they need it to drop weight, they're not going to have it because they need it to just move around. | ||
| Yeah, their energy levels are lower, so they have less willpower. | ||
| And they're using the willpower to do simple things that are effortless for you, and it's not effortless for a fat person. | ||
| That is such an interesting point and one that I really didn't consider. | ||
| That's a very unique point because I never really considered that fat people, like, it's almost like they can't help themselves. | ||
| It's almost like they're so, or it's so much more difficult for them to pass on shitty food than it is a regular person. | ||
| Well, think of it like this. | ||
| Okay, if you're a fat person. | ||
| Regular person. | ||
| That's thin privilege. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Fat people are real people. | ||
| Now it's a tranny thing. | ||
| Let's pretend that you're a fat person, Joe, and we have a bagel sitting here. | ||
| Good luck pretending, bitch. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Can't help myself. | ||
| The joke's there. | ||
| The bagel's going to be talking to you over and over. | ||
| It's going to say, eat me. | ||
| And a healthy person says, I don't actually have a craving. | ||
| Like, fuck you, bagel. | ||
| I'm not that guy. | ||
| I love bagels. | ||
| If you're a fat person, that bagel is going to constantly sit there and go, eat me, eat me, eat me. | ||
| And every time you say consciously, I'm not going to eat the bagel, you are spending your willpower wantonly. | ||
| So every time you see an ad for Mars on TV, you know, Mars bars or whatever the heck the latest candy is, and you're like, God, I got a craving. | ||
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| So you spend your entire day saying no to your biological systems that are starving for energy. | ||
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And this is why you're not depleted. | |
| You're not lacking willpower. | ||
| You're wasting your willpower saying no to foods that are calling out to you in a biologically unnatural way because your energy systems are broken and you have less willpower than you should have had because your cells aren't functioning right. | ||
| Your hormones are broken. | ||
| So never say that fat people are fat because of a lack of willpower. | ||
| The fact that they're walking is a testament to their willpower. | ||
| What they're lacking is knowledge and they're lacking tools. | ||
| And when fat people have those things, they immediately go and they get thin again. | ||
| Okay, but if that's the case, then what makes someone go out of their way and get that knowledge? | ||
| What makes someone change their diet? | ||
| What makes someone make the difficult steps to start going to a gym? | ||
| It's kind of willpower, Dave Asprey. | ||
| There's definitely a willpower component to it, but things like social support will increase the amount of willpower you have. | ||
| Things like encouragement, and also things like dying or being disabled or finding a diabetic ulcer on your leg and your doctor telling you you're going to lose your leg if you don't work your ass out. | ||
| That can temporarily increase willpower enough that you get your cellular energy kicked off. | ||
| But what if you use that willpower and you go on a raw vegan diet? | ||
| Dude, you're going to crash. | ||
| You might actually lose some weight, but you'll end up wrecking your health even more over the next probably one to two years. | ||
| So what is missing from a raw vegan diet? | ||
| What's missing from a raw vegan diet is saturated fat, and you can say you get it from coconut oil, but you don't get all of it from coconut oil. | ||
| All those things that you find in the nice yellow rind of fat, the things you find in oysters, the things you find in liver, trace nutrients, iron, vitamin B12. | ||
| You can't supplement these things? | ||
| You can supplement those things. | ||
| Although I don't know where you're going to get vitamin D without relying on animal products unless you get the sunburned shiitake mushrooms is like one source. | ||
| Sunburned shiitake mushrooms. | ||
| The only vegan vitamin D that we know how to make is to take shiitake, pick them, turn them over, and expose them to UV, and they make a small amount of vitamin D. So it's the only, otherwise you'd need to make it. | ||
| How many shiitake do you have to eat to be healthy then? | ||
| A shiitake load. | ||
| Ah, you son of a gun. | ||
| You however. | ||
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| That was coming. | ||
| That's pretty good, Dave Asprey. | ||
| That's almost like we said that up in advance. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So vitamin D is a critical issue with vegans. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And maybe they're outside suntanning all the time. | ||
| There's this fucking poor kid who goes to school with my kid who's a vegan, and his mom wears a leather jacket. | ||
| It's the most hilarious thing ever. | ||
| You sure it's real leather? | ||
| Yeah, she's not a vegan. | ||
| She wants the kid to be a vegan. | ||
| So crazy. | ||
| Is it true that my friend's lactose intolerant, and she recently told me that the ibuprofen that she has to take a lot recently put dairy inside of the ibuprofen, and she started getting really sick from it, and she found out that some ibuprofens have dairy as a filler almost. | ||
| Yeah, they use lactose, the milk sugar. | ||
| If you're lactose intolerant, that'll mess you up. | ||
| Ibuprofen uses lactose. | ||
| Not all of it. | ||
| It's just a pharmaceutical filler. | ||
| Sometimes they use sugar, sometimes they use milk sugar. | ||
| It fucked her up, though, for two weeks, like really sick, like couldn't get out of bed, and it was just from that. | ||
| Wow, that's so weird, man. | ||
| They would think that that was something that they would absolutely not put in. | ||
| We know how many people are lactose intolerant. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's putting nuts in medicine. | ||
| Do you drink milk? | ||
| I don't drink milk. | ||
| I am allergic to milk because milk and gluten cross-react with toxic molds that you breathe. | ||
| Just cross-react, how so? | ||
| Cross-react means there's an eight-amino acid sequence that's present in casein and in gluten and in certain species of toxic molds. | ||
| So if your immune system, the memory B cells, get programmed to attack that eight amino acid sequence, you're going to see those foods as invaders and you're going to get a long, low-grade inflammatory response to them. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And is this everybody or is this just people that are extra sensitive to it? | ||
| It depends on what you've been exposed to. | ||
| It depends on the species. | ||
| It depends on your genetic subtype. | ||
| But 28% of people are going to get that pretty darn likely, and other people can do. | ||
| We've got somewhere between like 50 and 100 million people in the U.S. alone with autoimmune conditions today. | ||
| It's a pretty big problem. | ||
| And the question is, is it like a problem with the gut biome or is it an external environmental thing? | ||
| And I can tell you that when we look at the studies of people's immune systems are attacking different parts of their bodies, there's definitely a problem with these anti-nutrients from foods and anti-nutrients from molds and other toxins in the environment. | ||
| But let's talk more about this raw vegan thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because your question is, what's lacking? | ||
| It's actually what's there that shouldn't be there that's a bigger problem. | ||
| And you remember last time we talked about... | ||
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| So that's one of the many things. | ||
| But there's a whole class of... | ||
| Yeah, you do the calcium loading thing that I wrote about and just put it in the water or at least just cook it and drain off the water. | ||
| And you can account for it. | ||
| You just don't want it to crystallize in your blood. | ||
| When I was a raw vegan, I certainly was getting the joint pain and some of the things that came from excess oxalic acid because I was like going crazy on the raw, like purple cabbage and kale. | ||
| Actually, I really like that stuff, but I did find it was having an effect on me. | ||
| And there's a whole class of these things called agglutinins. | ||
| And the broader category is called lectins. | ||
| And a lectin is yet again, I keep talking about these, it's something used in nature as a defense system. | ||
| So our cells in our bodies use lectin, which is a protein that's attracted to a sugar. | ||
| It's one of the many ways our cells communicate with each other. | ||
| And it's particularly used for blood clotting and coagulation types of things. | ||
| Lots of different plants use lectins as part of their defense mechanism. | ||
| And you've heard of like ricin, you know, the breaking bad, that little thing. | ||
| That's jack beans. | ||
| You can extract that from jack beans. | ||
| And a super tiny, tiny amount of that stuff is fatal. | ||
| And even when we want to look at like what blood type you are, we take lectins that come from food things like beans, and we put a drop of lectin in your blood. | ||
| And if your blood coagulates from this lectin, you're type O. If it if it coagulates from this lectin, you're type A. That's actually the test is using these things. | ||
| So you can deactivate a lot of lectins by cooking them, but not all of them. | ||
| And you can also go through and you can rinse them out. | ||
| So like your grandmother, likely, if you ate beans, knew that you soak the beans overnight, you rinse them multiple times, you do all these steps. | ||
| And that helps. | ||
| You can reduce the lectins, but the lectins are still there and they enter your body and they wreak havoc on your immune system. | ||
| So they can penetrate the lining of the gut. | ||
| They actually open up holes in your gut lining, which leads to other proteins leaking through. | ||
| So when you go on a raw vegan diet with the purest of intent, like I did, I was looking at my own health. | ||
| I wanted to lose weight. | ||
| I felt great on it for about three months. | ||
| What you can do is you can increase your food sensitivities dramatically because you end up cleaving holes in your gut based on the lectins you're eating. | ||
| And it's interesting, some foods are higher in lectins than others, like the nightshade family, potatoes, eggplants, tomatoes, and bell peppers. | ||
| And there's actually 200 other members of the family, like goji berries and things people don't usually think about. | ||
| Those things are highest in lectins. | ||
| So your body can detoxify a certain amount of lectins. | ||
| Some people are genetically sensitive to, say, potatoes or tomatoes. | ||
| 20% of all rheumatoid arthritis is tied to that nightshade family I just talked about. | ||
| So we could eliminate huge amounts of arthritis drugs if we just told people, hey, it might be that stuff. | ||
| Guess where the other big source of lectins is? | ||
| It's grains, particularly wheat. | ||
| Wheat has a lectin, I believe it's called WGA. | ||
| It also contains agglutin. | ||
| This is the thing that I talked about earlier that causes clotting of your red blood cells. | ||
| It cuts a hole in the lining of your gut, lets other crap through, and then it causes your blood to clot. | ||
| So when you go on a vegan diet, you have to eat a ton of vegetables just to get enough calories to function. | ||
| And when I was a raw vegan, I mean, I had to buy new salad bowls like this big just so I could get enough salad in me. | ||
| And I'd make like these like fatty dressings with like two avocados and like a ton of soaked cashews and sprouted this. | ||
| And I'd, you know, add some Bragg's amino acids and all this stuff. | ||
| And two hours later, I'm having this ginormous lunch and I can like barely chew it enough. | ||
| And my calories are still barely where they should be to keep me going. | ||
| But, okay, I got a ton of nutrient density. | ||
| I also got a ton of anti-nutrient density. | ||
| And those anti-nutrients wreaked havoc on my GI tract and on the other immune reactivity things that I had going on. | ||
| And I've seen this in other people who come to the blog. | ||
| They literally say, wow, like I'm recovering from this. | ||
| And I've had this happen to good friends. | ||
| In fact, one of my guys is a black belt and a keto, one of my buddies from school. | ||
| He went on a raw vegan diet and it wrecked his health. | ||
| He's like one of the more sensitive, one of the guys more sensitive to food than anyone else I've met. | ||
| It's kind of amazing, but this is happening. | ||
| And this is not about what are you not getting from a raw vegan diet. | ||
| It's what are you getting that we should cook out of our food? | ||
| What do you get? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So a vegan diet wouldn't be nearly as bad to you as a raw vegan diet. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Raw vegan is the real issue. | ||
| And a vegetarian one is a bigger advantage because if you're going to be vegetarian, you're probably not going to have that big of an issue with protein. | ||
| I'm a fan of moderate protein unless you're lifting heavy or you're doing some sort of really intense exercise. | ||
| You need more to replace what you damaged. | ||
| You know, gorillas eat a ton of celery and stuff, and they get reasonable amounts of density here. | ||
| But what you're missing there on a vegan diet is the saturated fat, the butter. | ||
| You really need saturated fat for your brain, for your hormones, for your skin. | ||
| And coconut oil itself does not have butyric acid. | ||
| It doesn't have the fatty acid profile that butter does. | ||
| And butter, if you're not going to eat animal fat, is your next best source. | ||
| Egg yolks are amazing. | ||
| You need that cholesterol as a building block. | ||
| Every cell in your body has cholesterol. | ||
| You can't copy cells without cholesterol. | ||
| It also doesn't make any sense if you don't eat eggs. | ||
| And it doesn't make any sense if you don't eat butter. | ||
| Nobody has to die for eggs. | ||
| Nobody has to die for butter. | ||
| It's just that simple, you fucks. | ||
| You crazy, silly bitches out there running away from eggs that could never be chickens no matter what happens to them. | ||
| Those are eggs, period. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It's free food from a chicken. | ||
| Free food. | ||
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| It's one of the more useful ways of converting non-food proteins. | ||
| Like you can feed scraps to a chicken and they convert it to food. | ||
| Mother Nature's cool too because even if you feed kind of moldy stuff to a chicken, like lower quality spoiled food, we're programmed to keep as much, just all animals are programmed that way to keep as much toxin away from the baby or the fetus or the embryo as possible. | ||
| So most of the toxins don't go through into the eggs. | ||
| Some of them can, particularly like metals, but the organic toxins and anti-nutrients get filtered out by the mom chicken, so the eggs are relatively pure. | ||
| Even the crappy industrial eggs that do have some contamination, they have arsenic and things, but they're a better choice than a lot of foods because of that filtering process that happens in the hen. | ||
| I have 14 chickens now. | ||
| Oh, you rock. | ||
| Yeah, just this new thing that we started doing this year. | ||
| And every day I get between 8 and 12 eggs. | ||
| Are they all in cages or do you let them just wander up around? | ||
| No, I have a whole huge yard where they wander around. | ||
| There's a coop where they go in at night, but during the day we open the door and they just walk out. | ||
| And you leave the door open at night, they walk back in. | ||
| Do they do the morning? | ||
| No, it's only roosters. | ||
| Roosters are the dumbest. | ||
| Actually, they're kind of smart, but they're just so stubborn. | ||
| I had a rooster that was sleeping outside my bedroom window. | ||
| He just moved in. | ||
| And every night. | ||
| Wasn't your rooster? | ||
| No, I used to live out in the country, and he just showed up. | ||
| And I was like, I can't handle this. | ||
| So I literally, I woke up at five in the morning. | ||
| I was all discombobulated. | ||
| I'm running around, like, knocking him out of the tree. | ||
| And then the next night. | ||
| He's like a tree. | ||
| He's back. | ||
| Like, they roost on a branch. | ||
| Why'd you shoot him? | ||
| Well, I got my BB gun out and I'd shoot him with one pump, just enough to knock him off, not enough to damage him. | ||
| It took three months. | ||
| Every night I'd brush my teeth, shoot the chicken, and go to sleep. | ||
| And three months before he'd move, I saw it off the branch he was sitting on while he was on it. | ||
| He just moved up one of the channels. | ||
| So for three months, he kept doing that. | ||
| He finally learned, but yeah. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| I would have eaten that chicken on day two. | ||
| His name was Hannibal. | ||
| That's what you named him? | ||
| I put a chicken breast, like a spoiled one out for the barn cats, and he chased Off the barn cats and ate a chicken breast. | ||
| I'm like, that's the most disgusting thing ever. | ||
| That's why his name was Hannibal. | ||
| I'm not eating that chicken. | ||
| He's eating other chickens. | ||
| Wow, that's hilarious. | ||
| He chased off a cat? | ||
| Two cats. | ||
| He was a big, tough bird. | ||
| Yeah, those real big fighting roosters. | ||
| He was like a manly rooster, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, my old gardener, he fights roosters. | ||
| I went to his house. | ||
| He's got a there's a there's areas in the valley where you swear to god you're in Mexico. | ||
| There's not a fucking single sign. | ||
| It's in English. | ||
| And he took me to his buddy had a house that in the back of the house, they had like, I don't know, man, at least 100 cages were chickens, friend. | ||
| It was nuts. | ||
| And they had this barbecue pit, and they would roast a goat, and they'd kill a goat. | ||
| They butcher their own animals. | ||
| This isn't like the valley. | ||
| They butcher their own. | ||
| Totally illegal. | ||
| Butcher their own, I mean, none of its sanitary conditions. | ||
| Butcher a goat, cook it over a fire, and then behind that, they would have chicken fights. | ||
| They'd all bet on it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, these fuckers are big, man. | ||
| They're big and mean, and they put razor blades on. | ||
| I didn't watch the actual chicken fights. | ||
| I watched them training chickens. | ||
| I didn't watch them actually slice each other up. | ||
| But it's weird. | ||
| I'm not a fan of the whole idea of getting these animals to do things like fight for money and slice them up with razors and stuff like that. | ||
| It seems kind of fucked up. | ||
| But they say that they do it and then they cook them and they eat them. | ||
| This is just something they do that also is fun as well as food. | ||
| My understanding of food is you don't want to eat an animal that died in distress. | ||
| You get all these stress hormones. | ||
| It affects the quality of the meat and it affects a lot. | ||
| So I would prefer to eat animals that were raised well and killed ethically without knowing it's coming. | ||
| Yeah, they like watching chickens fight, though. | ||
| I think that's what it's about. | ||
| A lot of it is they're betting on these chickens fighting too. | ||
| It's a cultural thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've seen enough from Hannibal. | ||
| That was a smarter rooster than I would have thought. | ||
| Like he knew that the BB gun was doing it to him. | ||
| He didn't know how, but he'd like hide in ditches and do little chicken commando things. | ||
| And I actually gained an appreciation for the intelligence of a rooster from having this thing. | ||
| It was funny, you know, watching one rooster intimidate two cats, walk up, eat their food right in front of them, stare them down, and then just walk up. | ||
| It was amazing just to watch these interactions. | ||
| So, I mean, I'm with the way of thinking about when you kill an animal, how many deaths does it take to feed someone? | ||
| And give me the beef, give me the lamb, because that lamb is going to feed me for a month for one death. | ||
| You kill one of those chickens, it's good for like half a meal, and you're still hungry, and you got really not so good fat out of it anyway. | ||
| Chicken fat's not good? | ||
| It's mostly omega-6, even if you feed it like all the natural stuff, like worms and coconuts and stuff. | ||
| So even if you are someone who eats meat, you shouldn't just eat chicken. | ||
| I think it's actually bad for you. | ||
| It's the least compatible protein ratio with us compared to the red meat. | ||
| You can get a little too much iron if you only eat like tons of red meat, but we have eggs for that. | ||
| So when I kind of look at the whole, you know, what's best for us, okay, you kill an animal, you can eat maybe half of a chicken. | ||
| It kills, it feeds maybe two people. | ||
| The chicken skin is full of omega-6 fats that oxidize when you cook it, so it's going to be inflammatory when you eat it. | ||
| So you want to take that skin off, and you got to do something with the skin. | ||
| What are you going to do with it? | ||
| If you have pigs, you would feed the skin to the pig with all the other scraps, and at least you get bacon out of it. | ||
| But most people, they just throw away the chicken skin or they eat it. | ||
| Chicken skin tastes delicious, though. | ||
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| It's delicious, but it's crispy and yummy. | ||
| Not as good as bacon tastes. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But sometimes this is what you want. | ||
| Sometimes you actually want chicken skin. | ||
| I give you that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you ever seen those videos on crow intelligence? | ||
| They show how intelligent crows are? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Crows are so intelligent that they're almost like they're probably more intelligent than chimps. | ||
| That sounds crazy, but there's a video of crows' use of tools. | ||
| Let's end with this, Brian. | ||
| Pull this video. | ||
| Crows use tools. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Such a cool video. | ||
| This is a fascinating video. | ||
| Crow using... | ||
| Crows using three tools in a row, supposedly. | ||
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| Give us some volume. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| The crow gets a tool and figures out that they can go and stick the tool into these little tubes and get things. | ||
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| And then once he does that, he gets a toothpick. | ||
| So he sticks that one tool in and he uses that one tool to get a different tool. | ||
| And then he uses that tool. | ||
| See how he's hooking it? | ||
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| And he's fishing another tool. | ||
| See? | ||
| And he gets a longer tool. | ||
| With each tool, he gets a longer tool. | ||
| And then here, he goes... | ||
| Yeah, so crazy. | ||
| And this is quickly. | ||
| This crow figured this all out within a couple of minutes, and then he gets the food. | ||
| See? | ||
| So he used a small tool to get the medium tool, the medium tool to get the large tool, the large tool to get the food. | ||
| I mean, get the fuck out of Dodge, dude. | ||
| That's a smart-ass animal. | ||
| They are smart as shit. | ||
| They also don't taste good. | ||
| Have you eaten crows? | ||
| You eat crow? | ||
| No, but they're well known. | ||
| They make you eat crow. | ||
| It's what you eat when you're about to die. | ||
| Oh, that's funny. | ||
| That's what eat crow means. | ||
| Oh, that's funny. | ||
| I never even thought of that. | ||
| It's like the settlers, like, when you're in the desert and there's like nothing around, you shoot a crow. | ||
| It's like, I was going to starve, so I ate the crow because apparently they taste really crappy. | ||
| He's got a bottle. | ||
| I would feel bad eating an animal this smart. | ||
| It was just like half a meal. | ||
| Crows aren't even that meaty, but like I, you know, I don't feel so bad about a cow. | ||
| In fact, the next cow I eat, I'm actually going to slaughter it and butcher it myself with the butcher. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I also believe that if I'm going to believe it's ethical to eat it, I should be willing to kill it. | ||
| So I'm going to do it, and I'm going to do it in a peaceful way, and I'm going to enjoy every last bite. | ||
| What about game animal? | ||
| Do you eat moose or elk? | ||
| I love the sauce. | ||
| It's good for you. | ||
| I've gone deer hunting a few times with my father-in-law out in Pemberton. | ||
| He's got this amazing access to this crown land that no one ever goes to. | ||
| Last time I was there, I had 17 deer in my sights, and not one of them was a buck. | ||
| It's so frustrating. | ||
| I'm like, for God's sake. | ||
| 17 deer and all of them were girls. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You didn't have a tag for a girl? | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, these crows are fucking genius. | ||
| See that? | ||
| You just took that long stick and took. | ||
| And got a second stick with it. | ||
| Yeah, and then he got meat. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| There's about 20 crows that live in my backyard, and they freak me out sometimes because I'll go out there and they'll just start off screaming at me. | ||
| Oh, you're talking. | ||
| Well, they're Going, oh God, this dickhead's here. | ||
| And my dog is so small that I think sometimes that, I don't know, crows might fuck with it. | ||
| They always just seem very violent when I come outside. | ||
| A hawk would. | ||
| Yeah, or magpies will totally just torture a dog. | ||
| What's the difference between a magpie and a crow? | ||
| They're like black and white. | ||
| They make a different sound. | ||
| There's like a creepy children of the corn thing with magpies because they're like in bigger flocks. | ||
| When I was a teenager, I lived out in the country and these magpies had decided to like nest in this tree and they were like covering my car in shit, like hundreds of splots in one night. | ||
| And I had this idea that if I shot one in the tree, they'd get the message that go roost somewhere else, which is actually a bad idea. | ||
| I shouldn't have done that. | ||
| So I shot one and I winged it. | ||
| It was just with the 22. | ||
| And so I was like, I got to go finish this thing off. | ||
| I would never leave an animal suffering like that. | ||
| So all of these birds suddenly got quiet and they all started yelling and making all this angry sounds. | ||
| And it was really kind of creepy. | ||
| And I went and I found the bird. | ||
| It was running away and I put it out of its misery. | ||
| And I felt kind of guilty after that. | ||
| Not that I haven't shot a bird and eaten it or something, but it was just like I was just killing it until I stop shitting on my car. | ||
| But just the amount of anger and silence and just weird behavior from all the other birds was kind of creeped me out. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| It should. | ||
| You should take the dead one and hang it by his ankles. | ||
| Hang him from a tree with a picture of a human finger on it like this. | ||
| Figure it out, stupid. | ||
| I wouldn't do that to you. | ||
| Put shit on my car, you fucks. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We win. | ||
| We have guns, we have cities, we have cars. | ||
| Not the most conscious thing I've ever done. | ||
| Crows don't forget a face either. | ||
| If you're a dangerous person, there's been studies. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Yeah, so those magpies. | ||
| So we could put like my face on the scarecrow and they'd run away. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| To find Dave Asprey on Twitter, he is a BulletproofExec on Twitter. | ||
| And the website is bulletproofexec.com or bulletproof executive. | ||
| Exec.com. | ||
| Bulletproofexec.com. | ||
| And you got a lot of shit on that website. | ||
| Really fascinating website. | ||
| You could get lost on that website for a long ass time. | ||
| How long did you spend building that website? | ||
| I don't know how many hours, but it's been about three years. | ||
| Yeah, really, really fascinating stuff, man. | ||
| And by the way, folks, no notes. | ||
| He's just rattling this shit off on his head. | ||
| That's what's bizarre. | ||
| You come in here and just spew all this out like you're giving some sort of a college lecture on mycotoxins. | ||
| And it's all off the top of your head, dude. | ||
| It's very impressive stuff. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| So follow Dave on Twitter and learn some more freaks. | ||
| And again, that one more time. | ||
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| I will be back later this evening with Maynard from Tool. | ||
| That should be a lot of fun. | ||
| And we got a lot of groovy podcast guests, including Dan Carlin on Friday. | ||
| Should be a good time. | ||
| And I'll be doing the fight for the troops in Kentucky on Wednesday. | ||
| I'll be doing the commentary for that for the UFC. | ||
| And then I'll see you fuckers this Saturday night in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada at the River Creek Casino with the lovely and talented Mr. Sam Tripoli. | ||
| And all right. | ||
| And next week, even more fun. | ||
| Anna Kasparian, Graham Hancock, and a couple other people. | ||
| I have a show November 20th at the Punchline in San Francisco at Dean Delray. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| November 20th. | ||
| That's a lovely Wednesday evening, folks. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| Punchline in San Francisco. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| All right, folks. | ||
| Thanks, everybody. | ||
| Thanks for tuning in. | ||
| Thank you, Dave. | ||
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