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Oct. 28, 2013 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #408 - Todd Glass
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unidentified
Jesus The Joe Rogan experience Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
joe rogan
Fuck it, we'll just splicing commercials later, Todd Glass.
There's no reason to get all crazy.
Look at that.
todd glass
Oh, there you go, my headphones.
unidentified
Old school.
joe rogan
Old school.
That's not even old school.
That's new school.
We were just talking about this t-shirt that I'm wearing, which is from Cap City Comedy Club in Austin.
One of the great American comedy clubs.
Like, without a doubt, one of the top three, four clubs in the whole country.
You know, we're talking about places that have...
You're not hearing yourself?
todd glass
A little hard.
joe rogan
Oh.
It's too high?
todd glass
Too low.
joe rogan
Oh, you can...
todd glass
Too low.
joe rogan
Who is in here that, like, doesn't...
Oh, beautiful.
todd glass
That's so much better now.
joe rogan
You don't have to work so hard.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People always say, like, when I do UFC broadcasts, like, why are you fucking screaming all the time?
You scream on TV. If you're there, you can't hear anything.
Like, people are so loud.
Like, there's nothing like one of those environments.
It's so fucking loud.
So when we're talking...
Before the beginning of the show, I have to talk louder.
I can't even hear what the fuck I'm saying.
todd glass
Even though you know, it's hard to imagine.
Okay, I know that every...
I don't know what I'm talking about.
unidentified
I got lost already.
Already we're too high!
We got too high!
joe rogan
But what I wanted to talk to you about is, I know that you had a hand in designing one of the other great comedy clubs in the country.
You had a hand in designing Helium, didn't you?
todd glass
I did.
And you know what?
I give him a lot of credit.
joe rogan
What's so funny?
todd glass
I just saw that fake head.
joe rogan
Oh, this?
The alien?
todd glass
It's funny to turn to that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's pretty dope, isn't it?
todd glass
I can hold a conversation.
joe rogan
That cat is making me another thing, a zombie.
That guy's badass.
todd glass
Oh, by the way, so I should say, if my opinion means anything, because we talked about it a little off the air.
I don't want to insult the other podcasts.
It's not something they care about.
Let me look at it that way.
But this is the coolest studio I've ever seen.
You took a lot of time creatively to make this a cool space.
The brick wall, the red curtains, the black ceiling, the lights with the stars in them, the lava lamps, the rocks.
It's like Why fucking not, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I wanted to do something that would make me comfortable.
I don't like it.
I'm very childish in what I like, you know, like aliens and fucking Bigfoot and a werewolf in the front of the place.
I'm very childish, but if I'm in an environment that's not like me, if I'm in a clean, sterile environment, there will always be a little bit of hesitation, even if it's a fraction, a little something that makes you want to keep it PC or not be so honest.
Office environments, I think, ultimately, they hypnotize people.
I think just the idea that you're in an office.
All of a sudden everybody becomes something that they're not.
Everybody puts on this bullshit attitude.
They all have this weird way of behaving.
No one swears.
No one talks about sex.
You're not even supposed to bring up religion or politics.
Everything's supposed to be super fake when you're dealing with customers.
Super flat, no personality.
And really, ultimately, make it super predictable for the person you're talking to.
You're going to follow a very strict pattern of thinking and behaving.
You're a gentleman in doing business.
todd glass
Yeah, that's why even when I see managers' offices, I won't say who, but this is your way to express yourself creatively.
If I walk into a manager's office and he gets it creatively, and I don't know him that well, I give him some points for that.
Oh, this guy gets it.
This manager could have anything he wanted.
It looked like Hertz.
And we used to, behind his back, go, This is what he wanted.
This is like if you had to go, fuck it, look at me.
I work at Hertz.
Look at my office.
He goes, I want that look.
Anyway, that story is available.
joe rogan
Some people just don't give a fuck, though, right?
It's something that they don't put any thinking into.
todd glass
Why do I have to self-analyze myself?
All I'm worried about right now, that story was horrible.
I don't even remember what the story is now.
That's where I'm at.
I swear to God.
I swear to God.
That's how much I get lost.
joe rogan
Wow.
todd glass
And now I'm going to just talk about wherever I'm at.
joe rogan
Dude, we got bookmarks for you.
Don't worry.
You don't have to worry.
We'll always refresh you and let you know what we're talking about in every conversation.
We're ready.
todd glass
So you're a good high person to be around.
joe rogan
We're so professional when it comes to being high.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
We're excellent at it.
todd glass
Did you ask me a question?
joe rogan
Yeah, we're talking about Helium, actually.
We're talking about you having a say in the design.
Because somebody had told me, like, before I'd ever worked there, it's like the best club in the country.
They were like, this place is perfect.
It's like everything you want a club.
Low ceilings, people are packed in tight.
It's a great neighborhood.
It's a really cool neighborhood.
There's a lot of other bars and jazz clubs.
And, like, there's a lot of funky shit in that area.
And that club is just perfectly set up.
And then they told me that you had a hand in designing it.
todd glass
Yeah, Mark called me through Louis Lee or somebody from Minneapolis.
And they said, you're opening up a club.
joe rogan
Is that the guy from Acme?
todd glass
Yeah, he owns Acme.
Well, to backtrack a little, which I thought was cool that Mark even knew to do, I go, how did you know to call Louis Lee?
He also called him and Louis basically taught him how to run a club.
joe rogan
Well, Acme is another example.
I've never worked at Acme, but I was there recently.
I was hanging out with Arge Barker, and he was working there.
It's a fucking amazing place.
todd glass
It is.
joe rogan
It's perfect.
todd glass
And all comedians like it.
So what Mark did, the guy who opened up Helium, I go, how'd you know to pick him?
Like, how'd you know Acme?
He goes, oh, I went to a comedy festival as a non-club owner, just a guy who thinks he wants to open up a club.
And he asks every comedian what their favorite club was.
He goes, he heard Acme a lot.
He goes, that sounds like a guy I'd want to talk to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
I go, that's so brilliant.
He goes, it's just common sense.
I go, yeah, but it's...
Most people don't have it.
joe rogan
It's like we were talking about Cobbs the other day, and I love Cobbs.
Cobbs in San Francisco.
I started at the old Cobbs, which is a really tiny place.
todd glass
Don't mention Cobbs to me.
joe rogan
Just kidding.
todd glass
You know those people, no matter what you're talking about.
Hey, don't mention them.
Is there anybody I can mention around you?
joe rogan
Well, then you have to ask them why, and then it becomes about them.
That's really what it is.
Those guys are annoying.
That's exactly what it is.
They turn it into something about them.
It doesn't have to do with what you're about to say.
It has to do with their personal piece.
todd glass
But it makes it look like it if they trick you.
unidentified
I fucking told him that I counted every seat in the room.
joe rogan
There's 180 seats.
You told me it's a 170-seat room.
You're stealing 10 seats.
Oh, God.
Those guys are the worst.
Those guys that are getting robbed everywhere they go.
And I'm not saying that people haven't been robbed before.
todd glass
You're not legitimized.
When it happens, obviously.
Come on.
Every story these people have.
joe rogan
So many of them have so many stories.
It's like, Todd Glass hasn't been ripped off.
Why have you been ripped off?
What the fuck is going on?
You keep getting ripped off.
todd glass
No matter who you mention.
Oh, Vinnie, Pam Squats.
unidentified
In a show for him, there had to be at least a thousand people there.
todd glass
Gives me a check, 80 bucks.
Fuck that shit.
joe rogan
There's certain guys that just have an animosity towards club owners.
There's almost like a natural animosity because of the fact that in the beginning they didn't want to have anything to do with you.
You were like a rejected girl that isn't mature yet.
You get real emotional about it and very upset.
And then when the guy comes around, you're like, where the fuck were you when I was 18?
People get crazy.
I think comedians get that way too.
In the beginning, they're fucking terrible, so nobody wants to use you.
You can't work anywhere, and you have to slowly...
Work your way into a position where someone's actually willing to pay you to have their customers hear you talk.
And that's a really kind of a special relationship.
And the beginning part is so bad that we develop this weird sort of contentious relationship sometimes with club owners.
I think that's like really ridiculous.
I think you're right.
todd glass
I think you're right.
And again, because I'm overly paranoid, we're not saying that certain people haven't Legitimately maybe been ripped off by club, and when that happens, that sucks.
But we're saying, like, a lot of that animosity comes from exactly what you just said.
It's like, maybe you were bad then.
joe rogan
Maybe.
todd glass
You know, maybe this, maybe that, maybe, you know, but they're not all bad people.
There's a lot of good ones.
joe rogan
It took me a while to get the respect of the people that I came up with in Boston, like the clubs in Boston.
I was headlining on the road before I was headlining back in Boston again, because they saw me when I was terrible.
Right.
I mean, they saw me as an open-miker.
I should have never been allowed to go on stage.
So when you've seen someone just fucking stink it up hardcore for like, you know, a year or two in the beginning of their career, it just makes sense that you wouldn't want, you know, like five years later, you're like, man, I'm not buying it.
This guy's got to be still terrible.
You know, I saw him when he was an open-miker.
And every comedian sort of says that, that you have to, like, leave your town.
And get success elsewhere, and then they respect it and recognize it.
But if they see you when you suck, in their mind, you suck.
It's really hard for people to adapt.
It works that way with athletics, too.
With fighting, it works that way.
There's guys that believe that this guy can't beat them.
There's no way that guy can beat them.
Meanwhile, the guy just beat you.
It's craziness.
It's a crazy way of thinking, but they know back when the guy sucked, and they refuse to admit that people can figure things out, that people can improve.
todd glass
Yeah, I even...
Have that happen, but I try not to.
Like, I'll think of somebody the way I thought about them.
You know, somebody, there's a comedian who wanted to do a middle in Philadelphia, and I really think, well, you're probably, I go, wait, I haven't seen him in a while.
And then I take the time, I'm like, oh my god, I just got stuck in this mindset.
But at least I got out of it.
joe rogan
I love changing my mind about stuff.
todd glass
And the comedian that it's about, don't fucking find it if it's not you.
You know it's you, but don't be so sure.
He might...
Okay.
joe rogan
He knows it's you, but don't be so sure.
todd glass
Yeah, there's somebody going, that has to be me.
I'm from Philly.
I work with Todd in Philly.
Why doesn't he just say my name?
Give me a plug.
joe rogan
People are too damn sensitive about people's assessments of them.
As long as those assessments are polite, you shouldn't take it so fucking personally.
You can learn from those things.
todd glass
Yeah, I had a comedian once...
You know what?
I'm glad that I just luckily wasn't stupid because he goes...
I could have easily been offended.
But earlier in my career, he goes, we hung out during the day.
And then he goes, he said this affectionately.
I remember it.
I was like 23, maybe 24. He goes, he goes, you're funny hanging out.
He goes, what are you doing up there on stage?
unidentified
And I was like, I knew he was fucking right.
todd glass
And he knew I could handle it.
You know, he said something.
He goes, that's what you want to be doing.
But I remember thinking I could have been like, fuck that guy.
That's my story.
You know what my story could have been?
Then this fucking idiot tells me I'm funny offstage, but I'm not.
Fuck you.
I was doing better than you every night.
Which he might have been because he was bad, but whatever.
He was honest with me.
joe rogan
Right.
todd glass
And instead the story is, thank you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
That's why I appreciated he said that.
It made me consciously try to change that.
joe rogan
There was a guy that said something to me when we were both starting out together.
We had been both doing it about six months.
And I was still, like, I still had my foot in another world.
I was still teaching martial arts, and I was still competing, and I was really confused.
And he said to me, he goes, you know, he was being a dick, totally being a dick.
He goes, you started off pretty funny, man, but you lost promise.
You seem to be repeating yourself, and it's just like, you, I don't know, seems like you lost momentum.
And I was like, wow.
And I didn't argue with him.
That was the weird part.
I didn't like, fuck you, bitch.
You know, there was none of that.
I just went, wow.
I gotta agree with you.
Like, I'm not really paying attention.
A comic.
An open-miker that I worked with.
That, you know, we would...
You know, we were all, like, sort of competitive young guys and going to these clubs and trying to be...
Have some camaraderie, but there was always a lot.
We were young.
We were retarded.
We didn't know how to communicate with each other.
We didn't know how to be honest and express ourselves, and we were insecure as fuck.
We were trying to be a stand-up comedian.
It's the most insecure world, probably in show business.
You create it all yourself.
And he said something that was totally true.
And I remember it stung for sure.
But it made me make a clear decision to just abandon the other world.
Just to completely remove myself.
Quit my job.
Just get jobs paying for things.
Just because of this one thing this one guy said.
That it helped me a lot.
I could say that he was being a dick when he was doing it.
And I'm sure he was.
I'm sure he was trying to hurt my feelings.
But he was right.
And because he was right, it was really beneficial.
It was really important.
It was really important for me as a comedian.
First of all, to be aware that this has to apply this way.
Although it's very difficult to do, especially emotionally, it's very difficult to accept criticism.
It's very difficult to see yourself as other people see you.
But it's so fucking important.
If you can't do that, you're going to never continue to grow.
You're going to hit a rough spot and then boom, you're going to tailspin.
And then that's it.
todd glass
Yeah, you see that a lot.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, you do.
todd glass
You do.
And it's funny people, too.
That's what's a shame.
It's not like they're not funny, but they get caught in this...
joe rogan
Something goes wrong.
todd glass
Yeah.
And like we said before, the ones that...
I remember comedians that had fuck this business attitudes.
I'm not kidding.
Now, of course, then it seemed like they'd been doing comedy a long time, but like eight years into the business.
joe rogan
Right.
todd glass
Fuck this fucking business.
joe rogan
They're already veterans.
todd glass
Or two years in, I remember a comedian having a joke.
Like, hey, here...
It's like, really?
joe rogan
That's so silly.
todd glass
You're that mad?
joe rogan
Well, it's the same thing.
It's like a rejected boy or a rejected girl, a rejected young person, I should say, doesn't have emotional maturity and they get angry.
That's really what it is.
Like, that rejection sometimes is the best fucking thing that can ever happen to you.
Like, it might feel like shit, but you'll figure that out.
Because of it, you're either going to quit or you're going to figure it out.
You're going to have a new inspiration to do so.
todd glass
You know what?
I would never want to own a club.
When I complain about club owners, I've realized...
I'm not changing this.
Does it seem like I'm changing the subject?
joe rogan
Not at all.
unidentified
Not at all.
todd glass
You're right.
joe rogan
I know exactly where you're going.
todd glass
Because I do make fun of the bad clubs.
And I do.
I spend a lot of time making fun of the bad clubs.
And they should be made fun of.
Some of them are fucking horrible.
But I also defend the good clubs.
I wouldn't want to own a good club.
You know why?
Imagine all the fucking wackadoodle comedians fucking bothering them and getting mad at them unnecessarily.
Like, you know, not all of them.
joe rogan
Right.
todd glass
I wasn't.
I remember, thank God, and I did a lot wrong, but I always knew that, like, I... I forget.
I completely forget what I was talking about.
joe rogan
We're talking about clubs and, like, getting along with clubs.
todd glass
Oh, I never got mad at club owners.
joe rogan
You never got mad at club owners.
todd glass
Over the years when a club wouldn't use me...
You know what?
unidentified
I'll...
todd glass
All I liked is when they told this story, and I can think of a specific club that said this.
I wasn't what they wanted, but they said, you know, he was nice, and the staff liked him, because it's just not my thing.
But he tried to point out that I was a decent guy, and you know what?
I accepted it.
I remember someone was like, fuck him.
I go, no, no, no, he has a right.
He can't love every comedian.
But at least he told...
That's not the story I could have told.
I could have been like, oh yeah, I could have been that same story.
Even though the guy did it right and he tried to...
I could have been like, fuck him.
You know what he tells my manager?
The staff liked you.
What the fuck's that supposed to mean?
You know what I mean?
Like flipping it around negatively.
joe rogan
Totally.
todd glass
Yeah.
And there was a few clubs over the years that wouldn't hire me.
And guess what?
Some do now.
And I don't want to be that person.
Oh, fuck that club.
Well, now they want you.
So what are you going to teach them a lesson?
joe rogan
I love the fact that they exist.
I mean, one of the best things about being a comedian is the ability to work in clubs.
I do some larger spots now, but I still do like the Ice House.
I do the Ice House on a lot of Wednesday nights.
And it's only like 150 people or 190 people or something like that.
It's fucking amazing.
It's a magical room.
I mean, it's magical.
It's tight.
The ice house is dark and it's got 50 fucking years of laughs burned into it.
You know, I mean, that's legit.
That place...
If an area or a space can encode a memory...
Can somehow or another capture a memory?
My dad went to Gettysburg, and he said when he was there he felt sad.
He said it really was an overwhelming feeling of sadness.
He goes, it was really hard to describe.
He's not an airy-fairy, sort of a woo-woo kind of a guy.
And when he said that about Gettysburg, he's an architect.
You know, he said that about Gettysburg.
He was like, it was just something about it.
It just didn't...
You could feel it in the air.
I really believe that.
I believe a club like the Laugh Stop in Houston.
Did you ever work at that place?
todd glass
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That place, you walked in, you felt it in your fingers.
You're like, whoa, this place is on fire.
todd glass
Mark Babbitt is the reason that club used to have a great reputation.
And I love...
Let me tell you something.
I don't wish anybody ill.
I don't wish anybody ever.
I don't care what they do.
I do not wish anybody ill.
joe rogan
But...
todd glass
I do wish that your empire would fall apart.
That doesn't mean anyone would be sick or homeless, but I do wish your empire would fall apart, like it did, not realizing Mark Babbitt was why you had it.
They never knew that he was the soul of that place.
So when he left, it went downhill, and they have no idea.
To this day, do you think they have the intelligence to go, hey, what happened there?
We made a huge mistake.
We had a manager who fucking basically gave, you know, we didn't know how important he was.
We fired him and the business slowly closed.
No, they're just telling some other bullshit story.
joe rogan
Was there a matter of, I don't know, there was some sort of illegal matter.
I don't want to mention what might or might not have happened, because honestly, I have just rumors.
It is what I heard from fucking Ralphie Mayer.
todd glass
I knew it, that fuck.
I totally turned on him.
joe rogan
He was, you know, a guy who really loved comedy.
And that's a historic fucking club.
I mean, Bill Hicks recorded...
Didn't Bill Hicks record one of his stand-up specials there?
Sane Man, I think?
todd glass
I'm not sure, but I know that...
joe rogan
One of his early specials.
todd glass
I really just said sure, but I wasn't positive.
joe rogan
I think it was there.
And that used to be where the annex was, you know, where Kinison started out and Hicks started out.
Like, you would walk into that laugh stop in River Oaks.
There was two laugh stops.
There was one and then they moved it.
When they moved it, that's when things started getting squirrely.
But the original one, you would walk into that place and you would feel the fucking energy that has been pumped out into that room.
Like, these people have, like, years and years of fucking hysterical laughter, like, impregnates the walls.
The new place didn't have that.
todd glass
Do you want to hear what you're talking about, but someone took advantage of this and works it for them when they sell homes?
I swear to God, this is what a girl told me.
It goes back to exactly what we're talking about.
She goes, you want to know my line I say when I'm selling someone a house?
She goes, I say, if house has souls, don't you feel like this is a good one?
And she goes, most people are like, oh yeah, especially if they like the house.
But she's full of shit.
She's lying.
She's just saying that about every house.
And that's such a good line that people go, it does have a good soul.
But she's working on something that does exist, as we're talking about, because I agree.
There's no way those laughters, it's not just in our head.
That's something there that's some energy when a room has had that much energy.
joe rogan
Yeah, no doubt.
todd glass
That much soul, you know?
joe rogan
I mean, it sounds like horseshit.
todd glass
Does that make sense?
joe rogan
I'm sure any reasonable scientist would tell us it's horseshit.
todd glass
Oh, really?
joe rogan
But maybe it does for us symbolically.
Because you know what that...
Like when I walk into the punchline in Atlanta.
Jesus Christ.
I mean, that place has been around forever.
It's a fucking masterfully built club.
Another one.
Perfect comedy club.
And you see those pictures of the wall like Richard Jenney when he was like 30?
todd glass
I know.
joe rogan
And you're like, wow.
Look at these fucking headshots.
All these old, old headshots.
Like Zaney's in Nashville.
You ever do that place?
todd glass
All you can do is look at those pictures every night and find something new to figure out about that time.
I never get tired.
I re-look at them.
I look at them.
Any of those clubs...
I know there's a breed of club you're talking about.
It's not helium because they haven't been open as long.
But it's those 35-year-old...
35-year-old clubs?
unidentified
Yeah.
todd glass
30-year-old clubs?
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
Those walls.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
It's insane.
todd glass
I remember the person I thought...
I look up at the wall.
Anybody that had a gimmick, I thought they were going to be really successful.
Like one guy who was called to coach and had a whistle.
And I was thinking, when I was like 19, I'd be like, fuck, I wish I would have thought about that.
I was always so jealous.
I'd go, that's fuck.
Yeah, I get it.
Blows the whistle.
Hey, I'm the coach.
God damn it.
I was always so jealous of those, and then they tend not to be doing comedy anymore.
joe rogan
You know what I was really jealous of?
The dudes who had the big full-page ads and that comedy guide.
Do you remember the comedy guide?
todd glass
I sort of do.
joe rogan
The comedy guide was an industry comedy guide that would come out every year.
All the managers would have it.
These comedians would take out these giant full-page ads and show what NACA conference they performed at and they had this really professionally done photography and shit.
That was how comedians got the word out about them.
That's how they marketed it.
They used to have to buy Time and the Industry Guide and then put together some VHS tape and send it out.
todd glass
The cards.
Did you ever have a comedy card?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
We had a card once to promote a website that I put out to promote my website.
But there was never one for like, you know, I'm appearing in this town!
Like pointing to the right and the big...
todd glass
Someone told me...
joe rogan
When am I coming to you?
todd glass
Someone told me that...
My track record is this, and then I'll tell you what somebody told me George Caron said, but at least I wish I could have said I never had a card, but I'm proud to say, if I'm gonna be 100% honest, I had one for like a month, and then I just didn't like the smell of it, so I got rid of it.
The smell of it?
Yeah, I was like, oh, Todd Glass, comedian.
I was like, oh, shit.
I think I saw some other comedian with a card.
I'm like, I should have cards, you know?
And then I got rid of him.
So now I'm glad because someone said, somebody at the, George Carlin was talking about cards backstage at the Comedy Magic Club and basically said, he goes, cards, you know, the comedian doesn't have a fucking card, you know?
And then the comedian that had the cards sort of felt like he took them very quickly over to the trash.
Because he had just gotten cards.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was the thing about headshots back in Boston.
Anybody who was any good had a shitty headshot.
They didn't give a fuck about their headshots.
todd glass
Right, right.
You can see that same path.
joe rogan
They would talk about it.
Like, if you hire a photographer to do your headshot, you fucking suck on stage.
They would always say that.
todd glass
Why is it just such an unspoken...
Are there exceptions?
Yes.
But no, mostly...
That's such a great...
joe rogan
Well, there's something that makes you want to take a picture of yourself and be all sexy looking that's uber douchey.
And it doesn't translate into comedy.
There's some guys who could ham it up.
I remember Kevin Knox had a really zany headshot, but it worked for him because that was his act.
He was a wild, energetic guy.
todd glass
What if I talk about how bad that is and I agree with you, but then you guys pull online a picture of me with my shoe as a phone.
Todd, we found this picture of you.
I go, oh, that?
With the shoe?
Yeah, I was acting like it was a phone.
Nobody did that then.
No, I was really the first.
joe rogan
You know what my favorite is?
Guys who do characters and they have, like, multiple characters on their headshots.
Like, this is the hillbilly.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is the doctor.
todd glass
Does anybody still do that?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
Someone was on the podcast, I don't know who to credit for this, but they were talking about how, you guys would know, you guys would remember, about how the genre of prop comedy is gone.
Carrot Top removed it.
You can't be a prop guy anymore.
But when we were starting out, that was an option.
There was like prop guys.
There was, you know, regular stand-up comics.
There was dirty guys.
There was prop guys.
The prop guy doesn't exist anymore.
You never see the prop guy anymore.
Carrot Top essentially just dominated the market so thoroughly that everybody else abandoned it.
todd glass
Let me say this.
If somebody out there was willing...
This is a real offer.
Let's say they had money and they think it's a good idea.
I will give them 40% of all my income.
If somebody goes, I will pay for it, Todd, we build him a great prop act.
We hire writers and it's like an anti-prop act.
I would go tour with it.
If somebody was willing to put money into it, like produce it, go, you, we're going to hire, we're going to build this, it's going to be a truck, it's going to go, and you're going to do it, but we're going to put money into it.
Somebody out there, a promoter, half creator, half promoter thinks, I'd fucking do that.
joe rogan
You would actually be the perfect guy.
todd glass
Not 40%, I want to put it down on record, but we will talk about the fee.
joe rogan
You would actually be the perfect guy to put together a fake prop act.
Like a prop act that mocks prop acts.
todd glass
Yeah, but no disrespect to Carrot Top.
joe rogan
No disrespect to it.
todd glass
It would be just the opposite of it.
There'd be these weird...
I don't know.
joe rogan
You would just make it shitty the way, you know, like if you're going to make fun of a comedian.
You tell a bunch of shitty jokes and yell the punchline out.
You're not disrespecting comedy.
todd glass
Right.
joe rogan
You're disrespecting shitty comedy.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, so that's what you would do.
You would be disrespecting a shitty prop act.
todd glass
Yes, and it would be just almost a mock of a prop act that didn't put a lot of time into his props.
You know, he's just like, tape.
You know, he's like pulling things out that are obviously, and they're not even, he goes, it used to be taped together.
He shows the crowd.
joe rogan
There was a few guys that were like combination.
They would like have a few props and they would do comics.
Do you remember Lenny Schultz?
Do you remember Lenny Schultz?
Crazy Lenny?
todd glass
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
He would pick up a fucking Smokey the Bear.
Okay?
He had a Smokey the Bear doll.
And he would go, only you can prevent forest fires.
Then he'd go, fuck you!
And punch the bear in the head.
It was so ridiculous.
Ridiculous!
He would knock the bear through the crowd.
Like, fuck you!
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
It's completely silly.
brian redban
Duncan Trussell kind of does a prop act, or used to, with Lil' Hobo.
todd glass
Well, it's hacky!
joe rogan
That's a little different, though.
There's another level.
That's the other level.
That's the puppet master guy.
The puppet is another genre that Jeff Dunham has pretty much dominated now.
I mean, there's still a few other guys.
There's the guy, Fator, what's his name?
Terry Fader.
Terry Fader is a big one in Vegas as well.
But there's not many young guns out there taking a doll to a comedy club.
There's not a lot of guys that are rocking that ass.
todd glass
What do you think, Sammy?
The visual of the hand just instantly.
I just pictured a comedy club I was just at a week ago.
What are the odds a guy would walk up on stage seriously Hey, everybody!
joe rogan
Of course.
todd glass
And you put your hand up and made the fake puppets.
joe rogan
Well, the best of all time, in my opinion, is Otto and George.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The best of all time.
I worked with Otto.
We did a gang of gigs in Dangerfields in New York.
We did prom shows, which were hellacious.
Have you ever done the prom show?
todd glass
I've done, yeah, one or two.
joe rogan
When they have them in New York City, where they just keep funneling the people into the club, they get these kids from high schools and they bring them in and they don't end the show.
They tell you to do new material every time.
Or they tell you not to do new material.
They tell you the same material every time so that they would realize that the show is over.
Because they never cleaned the place out.
They just kept packing kids in there, violating every fire code in existence.
And it would go on till 5 o'clock in the morning.
I mean, you would start working at 8 at night, and you would do shows until 5 o'clock in the morning.
They would just keep rotating the lineup.
I would leave, and it would be light out.
It was madness.
But for, like, a young comic, It's pretty good because it's like 75 bucks a set or something like that and you're packing all those sets together.
It was a good chunk of money for comedians.
So a lot of us did it.
And Otto and I did then.
We did a couple clubs.
todd glass
I never got to work with him that much.
I only got to see him like three times live.
I remember just punching.
You know what's nice when you go to see someone like that and the people around you...
Or enjoy them as much as you do.
Like a ton of people really fucking enjoy them.
And then I feel like there's people like me that go, it's fucking, I can't handle it.
I want to be around those people.
And we were.
The last time I saw them, the couple next to me, husband and wife, I found out, they were, we just started punching each other.
And we're glad we had someone to punch, you know?
And the people ahead of us were sort of the same way.
Everyone else was loving it, but we were definitely going, I'm gonna die.
You know, it was just so, it was at a comedy festival and he was saying how desperate all the comedians were.
You have to understand, I felt like I never saw him my whole life.
When he goes, like something happens and then George.
I get it mixed up right now.
I'm talking about...
joe rogan
Otto and George.
todd glass
Otto would say, he'd ask the woman in the crowd, like, hey, how are you?
And then the puppet would mock him because of how bad his crowd work was.
He goes, holy shit, are you shitting me?
That's what you...
Hey, how are you?
You stopped the show for...
Hey, how are you?
Oh, he goes...
But to see a puppet really dig into a human being, I'd never seen that.
And for me, that was fucking unbelievable.
joe rogan
He used to have a fucking thing he was working on.
It was Kennedy getting shot in the head, and so the puppet's head would flip back like a flop of scalp.
He goes, and I want to figure out how to put a brain in there and maybe square blood out of it.
He was so funny.
And people would get mad.
They would go, I see your lips moving.
He didn't try to hide that his lips were moving.
Is he not understanding what he's doing?
todd glass
I see.
Guess what?
That has to be certifiably, no bullshit, a problem with a mental disability.
It's a fucking puppet.
joe rogan
Of course his lips are moving.
Just pay attention to what he's doing.
todd glass
But that's someone there that was taking it for face value.
Oh, well, yeah.
How was he?
Well, I didn't...
Hard to get past the lips.
You know, I saw his lips moving, so...
There's Otto and George.
Obviously, he's still doing club dance.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He's a maniac.
But he's just so crazy.
Otto's so...
He's fucking hilarious.
todd glass
What was that picture of me?
brian redban
You're in a prop.
joe rogan
What was it?
You in a bag?
todd glass
Oh, did somebody make that?
Did I used to do props?
unidentified
I got nervous.
todd glass
No, I don't think I did that ever.
Did I do that or did they Photoshop that?
brian redban
It looks like it was like a red carpet event, you from an American Beauty or something like that.
todd glass
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
I wonder if there's hope for the, what would they call them?
Puppet acts?
todd glass
Somebody will have to do it great.
brian redban
Ventroquist.
joe rogan
Ventroquist, yeah.
I feel like that's a genre that could be fucked with.
Duncan did it, but he only did it for this one bit, which is hilarious.
A little hobo.
A little hobo is this evil puppet that killed his grandfather.
And he does this one bit.
I mean, it's fucking genius.
But it's not a lot of young guys.
When you go to a club, it's very rare that you see a young guy that's a puppet act.
todd glass
Yeah, yeah.
Is there anything else we're not thinking of?
joe rogan
Willie Tyler and Lester.
He was another famous one.
todd glass
No, I mean that you don't think of another type of comedy.
joe rogan
Oh, any style?
todd glass
When I think of someone doing it, I think of somebody as maybe mocking it.
But what about not mocking it?
Could somebody come back and make it, it was just that good and they write?
Why can't it be good banter between the puppet and the person?
joe rogan
Well, it is with Otto.
todd glass
Right, right.
But that's what I'm saying.
But we're excluding him.
joe rogan
That Jeff Dunham guy, he's got some jokes where he goes back and forth with the puppets that are pretty fucking funny.
todd glass
Then that, to me, is always amazing.
But the cliche stuff, it's like, come on.
joe rogan
I think Jeff Dunham does it more of family-friendly.
He tries intentionally to sort of...
brian redban
Is there a good psychic?
Does that exist?
joe rogan
Well, I mean, like, comedian psychics?
I've never even heard of one.
I've heard of comedy hypnotists.
brian redban
That's what I meant.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
todd glass
Do you have an opinion on that?
joe rogan
It works.
It definitely works.
Yeah, comedy hypnotism is 100% real.
todd glass
Okay, here's why I'm sort of, not that you're the all-knowing, but, you know, you probably broke it down without even getting into detail.
You probably shredded the fuck out of it.
So I think you probably know the right answer.
So I'm glad, because here's what my problem with is if it was fake.
And I thought...
I can't explain it, but here's what I used to say.
I can't explain it.
I don't.
But here's the one thing, if it's fake, how come never do those audience members on stage break?
Never!
unidentified
Never.
todd glass
Now, so, are they in some...
What's happening here?
joe rogan
He can tell.
They can tell a good guy whether someone's under or not.
And some people you just can't hypnotize.
I think there's really some people that have brains that are easier to hack.
brian redban
I agree.
joe rogan
I think you could just get into them.
I'll tell you this for a fact, because I worked with a guy named Frank Santos, the R-rated hypnotist.
I worked with him many, many, many, many, many times back in the Boston days when I was an open-miker, and I was 100% skeptical the first time I saw it.
I was like, this is bullshit.
These people are all just faking it.
But then when you watch a guy actually cum in his pants, and you watch people do things that he's telling them to do, then you realize, oh, wait a minute, I'm a control freak.
It would never work on me.
But it works on some people.
Some people, especially in that context, it actually might work better because they're nervous and they get on stage and there's a bright light and this guy just knows how to lock you in and tell you what to do, tell you what to do.
You're going to breathe, you're going to breathe, and on the count of five, you're going to just go.
You're going to go to sleep, relax, all the muscles in your body, one, two, three, four, five.
And he would touch these guys and they would fucking collapse.
todd glass
By the way, for me, I could just feel that.
I swear to God.
No, I mean, I just let it in three seconds just to go, someone is counting down, let your shoulders down.
joe rogan
He was a real hypnotist first, and then he got into comedy hypnotism.
todd glass
Let me ask you this, and someone that knows a lot about this might even say, well, no, Todd, that's not hypnotism.
But what even if it's this?
Because, look, they get laughs, and the average person to get laughs, how does it feel to get laughs?
It feels un-fucking-believable.
So let's say, even if a naysayer tries to answer the question this way, I still might not negate its hypnotism, but what if a naysayer said, no, they're just getting laughs.
And when people get those type of laughs, they get comfortable.
So they let their guard down because everything they do is getting a laugh.
They're getting a laugh because there's a professional up there making it happen.
So maybe they get more comfortable and more comfortable.
So the more weirdness is thrown at them, they're getting the laugh.
It feels good.
And they go to the...
You're still taking them somewhere.
So if you're doing it through laughter, you're taking them somewhere to do some shit that they're not doing in their normal lives.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know what the conscious interpretation of the person who's actually doing it.
Do some of them see what they're doing?
Do other ones see something that's not even there?
I don't understand that.
Because one of them he did, he said he had a weird way of talking and a very strange accent.
And he would say, you're about to make love to Madonna.
Madonna's on the ground.
She's naked.
You're on top of her.
You're going to make love to Madonna.
And this guy starts fucking.
I mean, he starts fucking.
And the crowd starts- Where's this at?
Is it Stitches?
Stitches Comedy Club in Boston?
This is Stitches 2, the second Stitches.
There's one that was attached to the Paradise.
It was this old school place.
That's the first place that I ever performed in an open mic night.
That place went under.
And then they opened up a new place.
And this was at the new place.
The guy came in his pants.
I saw the guy come in his pants.
I mean, I didn't go look at him, but it was pretty obvious that the guy came in his pants.
And he was embarrassed, and everyone was laughing, and he didn't know what the fuck they were laughing at.
He was gone.
He was in a weird other place.
And when he snapped him out of it, you could tell.
I don't think that they're that good of an actor.
I think that you are skeptical because it wouldn't work on you at all.
And I don't think it would work on me either.
Think about some of the shit that people are willing to do.
Think about cults.
Think about people joining cults.
Think about people that believe that some guy who lives in Siberia is Jesus.
So they're going to set up these huts and live up there with Jesus.
Because Jesus is back and he lives in Siberia.
You have to be, like, there's something that has to be, like, really wrong with your brain for you to accept that.
I think people's brains are different just like people's dicks are different.
That's what I think.
And I think some people, you can just tell them what to do.
And they'll just lock into it and just do it.
todd glass
Yeah, I mean, because if you...
We know that, like, the first part of what you said is true, because it's happened in the past, people following cults.
So, like, so what if that light, light, light, light, light is someone just doing that for an hour?
Like, they'll do that.
Why won't you just go, you know?
Like, there's...
Yeah, right.
People...
Yeah, there's a lot of...
You're right, because I always...
I always forget that I'm like, really?
But then you think, yeah, that's you.
I'm thinking of me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
I'm thinking of me.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't think of you because you have an extraordinary job.
You have a very unusual amount of people that you come in contact with and share your ideas with.
You're on stage all the time.
It's like your comfort level with humans is different than the average person's comfort level because you experience humans in this really extreme state, the state of a stand-up comedy club.
So it's real hard to just hypnotize a guy like you.
But there's some people out there that have 9-volt brains.
And, you know, everybody else has a bunch of those lithium ions they use to run a Tesla.
Not this motherfucker.
He's got a 9-volt brain.
Just like God gives some men 2-inch penises, this guy has a 9-volt brain.
And that is what he's got.
And I say this from a person who's very acutely aware of how smart I am or how lack of smart I am.
You put a math problem in front of me, I start fucking drooling.
I'm an idiot.
I'm really bad when it comes to math.
I'm shockingly bad.
It's just shit I'm not good at even slightly.
But I know that.
I'm not confused.
You know what I mean?
todd glass
Because you're able to know where you're...
Right, I get what you're saying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But I know there's different levels.
I know there's people that are way smarter than me.
I just know it.
I've met them.
todd glass
So wait, because mathematically I feel like I'm horrible at math too, right?
I know I didn't choose that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
So you're saying there might be people that get the math thing but then socially are like, Given these 9-volt batteries.
You think it's not changeable?
joe rogan
I think it is.
I think if I had interest in mathematics.
But what I'm saying is I don't.
And because I don't, I don't have any knowledge of it.
So I'm really dumb when it comes to that subject.
It's not something I've ever pursued.
So because of that, I completely lack any comprehension of, like, really advanced calculus.
And you see, like, those physics guys.
I have zero knowledge of what that is.
It's because when I was a kid, I associated it very early with something incredibly boring.
And because I did that, I just never put any effort into it whatsoever.
It wasn't rewarding to me.
I think that's what makes things...
You should have a comprehensive knowledge of how to count and divide and all those things.
Absolutely.
But it doesn't appeal to everybody.
And to make a guy like you or make a guy like me chase after really complex math...
It's not really beneficial because it's not going to do anything more than let us know that we don't really like math, especially in this day and age.
Because there's a finite amount of time to learn things when you're in high school, finite amount of time in college, and finite amount of time when you have a job.
It's a fucking small amount.
So cut out all the shit you're not really that interested in.
There's plenty of fucking calculators out there.
Stop trying to be Mr. Renaissance Man when it comes to knowledge.
There's a calculator.
Punch in those numbers.
Get it done.
It's really easy.
Or don't.
Or be a math guy.
todd glass
I'm so bad at math.
Now granted, this looks sadder.
This looks sadder.
This is going to tell sadder than it is.
But it is a true story.
So it all has to do with math and how bad I am.
And I have to tell you that I like bubble tape.
There's a reason I have to tell you that.
I don't know why, but I'll buy bubble tape.
joe rogan
That's the pop, pop, pop stuff?
todd glass
No, it comes in.
It's like baseball tape.
And you pull a piece out.
You can make it like 10 feet long.
You know, it's all in a, it's like, you know what I'm talking about?
It's like one big long piece of gum, and then you pull it out.
joe rogan
It's gum?
todd glass
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like you chew gum?
brian redban
Oh, bubble tape.
todd glass
Bubble tape gum.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
todd glass
Yeah, it's hard to know.
Most people listening are probably, they'll know.
joe rogan
Okay.
todd glass
I'm like, that's my, that's like a nice way of me going.
Everyone knows about you.
I think, but I could be wrong.
joe rogan
I bet you're right.
todd glass
I'm an idiot.
So anyway, I'm on the plane, and I'm horrible with numbers, and I have a checkbook, and I'm opening it up, and I'm counting with my fingers, and I'm figuring something out.
Also then I take a piece of bubble tape and I eat it at the same time.
And then there's a guy in my brief and I look at him and I go, oh my god, I thought instantly what he had just seen.
Like, not a man my age counting with his fingers.
You know, pulling and eating bubble tape.
There's no way he thinks I have any amount of success.
He has to think, oh, that poor guy, good for him.
He can even get on a plane.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
I wanted to look at him.
No, no, I swear everything's going all right.
It looks very archaic, but I don't, like, I'm aware.
joe rogan
It's funny that that's eccentric, to eat a childish sort of candy that we have categorized.
Like, this is candy for children.
todd glass
Well, it's true.
God forbid, and I don't, so don't worry about judging me.
Those big lollipops you can get?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
todd glass
What if you really like those?
joe rogan
There's nothing wrong with it.
todd glass
But you can't go out as a full-grown adult eating one of those big lollipops.
joe rogan
I think you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want.
brian redban
If you had knickers on, you could.
joe rogan
I think it's so stupid.
todd glass
Can I tell you?
I wish you liked those lollipops, and I'll tell you why.
Because if you did, I'd hang out with you every night.
If anyone gave you shit, I would love to see it.
What's the matter?
I like these lollipops.
unidentified
They're delicious.
todd glass
You would address it.
The lollipop industry would love you because they'd be like, it's nice Joe Rogan's out there.
They give him shit about eating a big lollipop.
He tells them to go fuck himself.
joe rogan
I'm single-handedly bringing back the fanny pack, Todd Glass.
Single-handedly.
I wear it everywhere.
I wear it every time I go on the road.
People point to it and go, get the fuck out of here.
And I go, yeah, I'm wearing a fanny pack.
It's fucking easy.
It's easy to travel with.
todd glass
I love it.
I don't know if I'll ever wear one, but I've said this a million times.
Why can't the fanny pack be cool to wear?
It is.
I have shit on my phone some nights just with where to put pot.
joe rogan
Look at that lollipop.
todd glass
That's exactly the one I was thinking of.
joe rogan
I would eat one of those.
brian redban
Both of them.
todd glass
How dare you.
joe rogan
Todd Glass got confused.
Look at that fucking lollipop.
That's a lot of sugar, son.
How much sugar is that, Todd Glass?
todd glass
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's a fucking hard beast of sugar that weighs pounds.
todd glass
I don't think...
joe rogan
That probably puts you in a straight diabetic coma.
todd glass
A girl should not eat that and not be looking for...
A guy or a girl.
If you're out licking that lollipop nonstop at a bar, and I don't think if people...
You're going to attract some weirdos.
joe rogan
That'd be so funny.
Or some people who really admire your tongue.
Maybe you have a really sweet tongue.
I mean, you know, some girls stick their tongues out and they go all the way down to their chin.
todd glass
But I'm saying, your friends would say, you're licking that lollipop in public.
You're only going to attract the wrong type of guys.
joe rogan
You're going to attract the right type of guys.
Fuck it.
unidentified
As Joey Diaz would say, let's get this party started.
joe rogan
Brian, okay, alright.
Listen, stop it, Brian.
Stop it.
You're confusing everything.
Yeah, well, I think lollipops, like anything else, man.
Whatever the fuck you like.
We haven't here for a long time.
If you like something, just say you like it.
Say why you like it.
And when I say I was bringing back the fanny pack, people thought I was joking.
I'm like, I really never stopped wearing one.
When I travel, I'd wear one.
People would constantly mock me.
I'm like, I don't care.
I think it's insane that I can wear a backpack and no one gives a shit.
But if I wear a pack down here, all of a sudden it's something that's funny.
I'm not playing that game.
todd glass
Here's the thing.
You're right.
But here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
I know you're right.
And not only do I know you're right, but here's the end part.
I've said it over the last year so many times.
Especially if you have a pipe or a key.
I don't like to have my phone in my...
I thought, God damn it, why can't fanny packs, like I just said, why can't they be cool to wear?
joe rogan
We're bringing them back, Todd Glass.
todd glass
I don't know if I'd be too insecure.
I'd be too insecure.
Just everywhere I went, people would be like, look, that guy's wearing a fanny pack.
joe rogan
You would feel like you were being courageous.
But it'd be courageous and just carrying stuff.
Wear sweatpants.
Fuck it!
Sweatpants and a fanny pack.
Fuck it!
Who am I dressing up for?
Some nice, soft, cotton sweatpants.
Those are, like, the most comfortable things ever.
You know?
But we never wear them.
No, let me get my fucking stiff-ass, stupid plastic pants on.
todd glass
You know what?
unidentified
It...
todd glass
I was last night in Santa Barbara, and it was Halloween, and there were some people walking around in costumes.
I go, forget about the costume and what it is, just what they're able to wear, like a onesie.
joe rogan
Right.
todd glass
Walking around with comfortable slippers.
They're comfortable.
Why can't they do that every night?
Maybe minus the costume part of it.
I thought, how many people are getting to walk the streets in a freedom?
It's like swimming naked in a bathtub or in a pool, probably.
They're just walking around.
With all that just comfortable shit.
Right?
Because you were saying, why can't we just walk around in...
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
Oh, in a...
joe rogan
With a fanny pack.
todd glass
Yeah, but what were the type of pants you said?
joe rogan
Oh, sweatpants.
todd glass
Yeah, like nothing's more comfortable than sweatpants.
joe rogan
Nothing.
todd glass
At one point, we're giving up anything.
We've developed the most comfortable pair of pants there is.
But we choose to go, well, but that's...
joe rogan
Somebody gave me a pair of these slippers that are kind of like borderline between slippers and a shoe.
It's real close.
I think they're like Uggs for men or something like that.
The inside is all fleecy.
todd glass
It's comfortable.
joe rogan
They're so comfortable.
And so a friend of mine came over and I put them on and I go, hey man, what's up?
And he goes, what are you wearing, fucking slippers?
brian redban
Are they the Crocs?
joe rogan
No, no, they weren't Crocs.
They're like leather on the outside, but they have a lining, and the lining is like a fleece, like lambskin or whatever the hell they have.
But he was like, what is that, a slipper?
I was like, it's a fucking shoe or something.
But to him, it was like, are you wearing slippers, bro?
todd glass
You're like, why are you wearing slippers?
joe rogan
What are you trying to have fucking, your feet be all soft?
It was weird!
unidentified
Yeah, he's against, why are you wearing something that feels good?
joe rogan
Why are you wearing slippers?
todd glass
He doesn't realize it.
That's the thing he doesn't realize.
But breaking it down, that's what he's saying.
You're wearing something that's more comfortable than everybody else?
joe rogan
You're wearing slippers and you're wearing a fanny pack.
todd glass
I might even say the same thing, but at least I'm willing to...
From now on, if I see someone wearing slippers, you know what I'm going to do?
It's a great idea.
joe rogan
It's a fucking wonderful idea.
todd glass
How about Rodney?
I mean, that's why...
I want to live to be the age where I can show up at the improv in my pajamas.
I took that for granted when I used to see him doing that.
Didn't he sort of wear pajamas and slippers?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He would wear a bathrobe on stage with nothing underneath it.
I was working.
This is when I was working.
I saw him.
I was getting paid to work in an arena.
I was working at Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts when I was 19. Rodney was there backstage.
He didn't give a fuck.
He had no underwear on, no clothes on.
He wore a fucking And everybody's like, his cock is just fucking hanging out.
He doesn't give a shit.
Roddy's like, what do you say, kid?
What do you say?
He'd be back there just getting fired up on weed.
And he would go on stage in his bathrobe and he fucking destroyed.
There's him in his bathrobe.
That's how he would dress backstage.
His balls would be peaking out.
It's not bullshit.
He didn't give a fuck.
He didn't give a fuck, man.
He didn't want to wear anything but a bathrobe.
And so he would go on stage like that and he would feel so funny because he was fucking naked up there.
And it was half of the fun.
todd glass
That was great.
joe rogan
Half of the fun of the show was he was peeking.
todd glass
I never knew the bathrobe thing.
All I knew was the pajamas.
But that's just beautiful.
joe rogan
I'll never forget, man.
I guess I was probably 19 years old, and I was in this back area where the performers go right before they go on stage.
And I got a glimpse of Rodney pacing before he went on in his bathrobe.
And I had no comedic aspirations back then whatsoever.
Like, zero.
But I always loved stand-up comedy.
And so I remember looking in there and going, holy shit, that's fucking Rodney Dangerfield right there.
And he's in a bathrobe.
And then they would all tell me, like the guys who were backstage, the security was doing back there, they were like, dude, his balls are hanging out.
He's just partying.
He gives zero fucks.
He's like 70 or something.
I don't know how old he was back then, but he had to be in his 60s, like deep in his 60s.
He was still doing blow.
He didn't give a fuck.
He was a maniac.
todd glass
You know, the way I explain what it was like to meet Rodney, I was trying to explain this.
I think, over the years, I think once when I was somebody in my family or something, I was like, it was very hard, but I think I can do a better job of it now.
You know how we'll never get to meet Homer Simpson?
He's a character.
And you're not going to get to meet Peter from The Family.
You don't get to meet them.
You get to meet Rodney.
You're not supposed to get to meet him.
He's so larger than life that it's hard.
Yeah, I have seen other people that are on TV when I was younger.
And when I saw them in public, yes, I was like, oh yeah, there's that person.
But Rodney was different.
It was like, what the fuck?
That's real.
Because he was such a cartoon character.
You know what I mean?
In a good way.
He was a...
joe rogan
In the movies, too, when we were kids.
todd glass
And he was larger than life.
It sounded like I just was disrespectful.
joe rogan
No, no.
It didn't sound like that at all.
todd glass
Yeah, yeah.
It was amazing.
And then he knew, and he capitalized on it later with the suit and the red tie.
And there you see this.
Oh, my God.
So anything he said, I went once to see Bob Nelson open up for him.
It's not a great story, but it's all I've got.
So any little piece that I happen to have anything happen with Rodney, I'm happy, you know?
So I remember seeing him and being like, that was just weird.
And then Bob goes, hey, this is Todd.
He's from Philly.
And he goes, that's good.
Philadelphia needs him.
We laughed so hard.
Laughed so hard because it was funny, but later when he left, I went, what did that mean?
I don't know.
No one knew.
It didn't matter what it meant.
It was Rodney, and it's not like we were fake laughing.
It was just him fucking being that funny.
Philadelphia needs him.
It was funny.
joe rogan
I got a chance to see him live then and then several years later at the Laugh Factory.
I got to see him at the Laugh Factory on Sunset a couple times there.
todd glass
Like when?
Like what year?
joe rogan
I would say it was the 90s.
todd glass
And how was it?
Did he go up and do a pretty tight set?
joe rogan
Amazing.
He was killer.
He was killer even back then.
I mean, he didn't go on stage and half-ass it, that's for sure.
He was crushing.
He was really fun.
And he was just chilling, hanging out.
His wife was with him, an attractive woman who was like, you know, 30, 40 years younger than him.
It just looked like he was having a great fucking time.
He rode that thing right into the fucking rocks.
He took that boat and just...
And rode it right into the rocks.
He's 70 years old and he's crushing on stage, partying, hanging out with a hot senorita.
todd glass
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
He was an animal!
todd glass
That's so much, you know, when you look at it from that perspective, it just amplifies what you already know.
Like, yeah, yeah, fucking, he really did.
Yeah, he really did.
I'm sure a lot of it's true, but the thing that most people know is by the time he could enjoy it, he felt it was too late.
unidentified
Yeah.
todd glass
He still had a lot of fun, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, he had a great fucking time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was Rodney Dangerfield.
And he was nice to people, too.
That was the other thing about Rodney.
He helped comics out.
His HBO specials were legendary.
A lot of people don't really even know what a huge stand-up he was.
He was a huge comedian.
Great Woods, where I worked, where he performed, I don't know how many thousands of people it is.
It has to be at least seven or eight thousand people.
In the part that's covered.
And then there's this back hill area that's like the grass, which is all open, wandering around.
It was really crazy.
Their idea was ridiculous.
Because the idea was, you would take these people, and some of them would be seated in this beautiful amphitheater.
And then past them, you would just stuff the grass with this enormous patch of grass with savages who couldn't hear anybody who was talking on stage.
So it was really unfortunate.
And that's where you saw him?
Yeah, yeah.
I got to see him close though.
I heard it.
But then I went to the grass because people were complaining.
They were coming down.
They would say, hey, we can't understand a fucking word he's saying.
We got tickets for the grass.
And so I went out to the grass and I was like, oh no.
You couldn't hear anything.
It was this weird echoey thing.
So when it would come out of the amphitheater, you had no idea what he was talking about.
You'd hear people laugh and you would go, oh fuck, this is terrible.
So it ripped all these people off.
And so they, you know, they unfortunately didn't get a chance to see him, but he was in his prime, man.
He was a really fucking, really funny guy, but his big thing was helping other comedians.
Those HBO comedy festivals launched Kinison, launched Dice Clay, launched Bill Hicks.
todd glass
Yeah.
And you know what?
I'm gonna give him a huge compliment.
It's not like I'm complimenting myself because I don't know if I... We only can live to see if I got to that point if I did what Rodney did.
But up to now, I haven't.
So I'm not doing it from a place of judgment.
So it's nobody's job to come and help other comedians.
So I'm not saying from that point of view.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's just sometimes you get someone that loves comedy so much that on their own they go, you know what?
There's some people I know are fucking funny.
You know, back then it wasn't even TV. There wasn't a lot of avenues, so it was Rodney's specials.
They weren't getting on The Tonight Show.
Some did both, but a lot were like his vehicle.
So no one since Rodney has ever done that.
joe rogan
No.
No one.
todd glass
And if I'm wrong, I want to know.
I don't want to be, you know, I'm not saying like if somebody looks something up and goes, this comedian did, I'd be like, well, they're cool too.
joe rogan
Martin Lawrence, didn't he?
No, no, no, no, no.
Robert Townsend did a few of those.
todd glass
He did a few of those?
joe rogan
Didn't he do a few of those?
Where he brought up different comics, like Damon Wayans, I remember, did one.
todd glass
So I like that.
joe rogan
That's a guy that kind of disappeared.
Robert Townsend.
Remember that guy?
todd glass
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever happened to that guy?
todd glass
Yeah, that's a good question.
joe rogan
I don't know what happened to that dude.
todd glass
He was really respected.
joe rogan
He was hilarious.
He was really funny.
What did he do?
It wasn't The Hollywood Shuffle, was it?
todd glass
I don't know.
joe rogan
What was his movie?
todd glass
I'm not good with movies.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not either, man.
Yeah, Robert Townsend.
todd glass
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was hilarious, man.
todd glass
I remember that special where he came out and he was talking in the accent and then he broke character after like a minute.
I don't remember.
That was on one of Rodney's maybe.
joe rogan
Was it?
todd glass
Yeah.
But anyway, I hope that came out right because that's just very admirable that Rodney did that.
And you know what made it even more admirable?
Because he was so big.
It's not like he needed it.
Certain comedians may have done it when they're at a point in their career when it needs them or they need it.
Rodney didn't need that.
I think he used his power To get a special and do something you wanted to do.
I don't think he needed that, like, Rodney, they called you, they want you to host this.
It was something he perpetuated that he had sort of moved past.
That's why it was sort of cool.
joe rogan
This is Robert Townsend right here.
Is this Hollywood Shuffle?
brian redban
Yeah, it's Meteor Man.
joe rogan
Meteor Man.
He did a lot of really funny movies, man.
And he was a funny comic, too.
todd glass
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, what's he doing now?
joe rogan
I don't know.
todd glass
Where is he?
joe rogan
Maybe he just said, you know what, I'm good.
brian redban
He's only 56. You know who also dresses pretty much how they want on stage and almost every day is Don Barris.
He'll just wear boxers and jetpack.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's the thing.
Be uncomfortable.
todd glass
What do you wear on stage?
joe rogan
Whatever I'm wearing.
I like to wear something that's not too distracting.
I like to wear something that's comfortable.
I usually like to wear like...
I wear Converse All-Stars pretty much every day.
Once I started wearing those, I realized if I wear a regular shoe now, like anything that has a heel, like a running shoe, it feels weird to be in that different posture.
You're not supposed to stand like that.
You're supposed to stand flat.
So I wear them because they're flat and comfortable.
todd glass
You feel like you're tilting forward.
joe rogan
You are.
It's so rare for me.
The only time I wear shoe shoes is when I do the UFC. Do you think like even...
todd glass
I know exactly what you're talking about because I've put the...
I get used to it after a while but there's a pair of boots and after I'm not wearing them for a while I go, what am I... What's a fucking heel?
I'm tilting forward here.
So imagine how women do that.
Do you think that...
Yes, I'm gonna take from that to this but I'm curious of your opinion on this.
Do you think like for women wearing high heels it might hurt them more than they maybe think?
Because it's a horrible thing to do to yourself.
joe rogan
I think it's probably really difficult to do every day.
I think women who wear them every day to their job, like they wear high heels around the office constantly, if that's all you wear at work, I gotta think that's brutal and punishing on your feet.
I gotta think that.
todd glass
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't see how it couldn't be.
todd glass
Let me ask you this.
Some people go, could you be doing it just for yourself?
Instead of hooding it from, you know.
Of course.
You could be?
joe rogan
Yeah, they can do it for other girls.
There's a misperception about women that everything they do is to attract men.
And that certainly has some merit to it, but it's not everything.
They also do it to show up other girls.
And to be impressive to other girls.
Oh, that's that Chinese thing, that foot binding thing that they do.
unidentified
Whoa, Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
They smash their feet down.
They want their feet to be small.
People are so crazy.
The size of the feet means so much to them.
They have to bind their feet up into these crazy positions.
Oh, that's so crazy.
Out of all the things that people do, that is one of the weirdest ones.
All the body modification things that people do culturally, like really common body modifications, the foot binding one is so bizarre.
Like really, really fucking weird.
todd glass
Yeah, that's not just respecting other cultures.
That's, come on, there's a problem.
joe rogan
It's torture.
There's something insane about it.
Women in Africa that are the Suri women who are, I think it's Suri, where they make that big plate in their face, the young ones are rejecting it now.
They're going, fuck that, this is crazy.
Like, I'm not wearing a fucking plate in my lip anymore.
And they're getting sort of like, there's a cultural rift where the young ones don't want to knock their teeth out and wear this plate.
You have to knock your lower teeth out to wear those plates.
It's fucking crazy.
todd glass
You drool all the time.
And now their knowledge, because we're in a computer age, where they're...
Yeah, that's...
joe rogan
They're not even getting...
I don't even think they're getting that much impact from the computer world in these, like, really remote tribes.
I'm not sure.
I'm probably wrong.
I'm probably wrong.
There's probably someone with a laptop and a fucking cellular connection that gets online or something.
But I gotta feel like you're wearing...
I mean, you're really in a super tribal environment.
They're, you know, topless...
Wearing skins and stuff.
Some of them, it's really crazy how similar the way they're living today as the way they were living hundreds of thousands of years ago.
todd glass
What were we talking about?
Just leading up to this, but the same thing.
joe rogan
Body modifications, foot binding.
todd glass
Oh yeah, the foot binding.
What I was thinking, and there's got to be one of your listeners could look this up for you guys, or you could.
There's got to be someone that's living today That did that, but moved past it?
In this world?
There's gotta be one that tells a story?
joe rogan
I don't know if you can undo your foot.
I think once your foot's bound up, you're fucked.
todd glass
Oh, or did it, but then...
You're right, I'm sorry.
Did it, and then tells the story.
Like, moved past it mentally, as a point, going, that was a...
What am I doing?
And had a...
You know, people...
joe rogan
I don't know how you would do that, though.
Your foot is stuck like that forever.
todd glass
No, no.
Undo your thought.
Explain the thought process you were in.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's just cultural conditioning.
We have a really weird problem as human beings that once a group of us start doing a thing, even if that thing is ultimately detrimental...
Once a group of us start doing it, people want to join in.
It seems normal.
We can rationalize because other ones are doing it.
It makes sense.
That's how the lip thing gets started.
You put this giant plate in your lip, and the bigger the plate, the more cattle you're worth.
What is that noise?
Do you hear that?
todd glass
You know what I thought it was?
I thought you were bringing in, like, a...
joe rogan
A sound effect?
todd glass
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like a...
brian redban
Oh, it's an airplane.
todd glass
It sounds like a...
joe rogan
Is it an airplane?
brian redban
Yeah.
It's about to crash.
joe rogan
Space shuttle.
Um...
Okay, whatever.
What was my point?
todd glass
I was doing my ventriloquist, and that's pretty good.
joe rogan
What was my point?
unidentified
What was I talking about?
todd glass
Oh, we were talking about the modification, the foot binding thing.
joe rogan
Oh, all that stuff is really bizarre.
The foot binding, the lip thing.
It's really bizarre that there's these cultures out there that are really still super, super primitive.
You know, to this day.
Apparently a lot of them are, like, really fucking happy and healthy, though.
That's the weird thing about these indigenous people when you find them.
You don't find a lot of, like, problems that a lot of people in the city have, like psychological problems.
It's very rare.
It's very rare that people have, like, psychological issues.
todd glass
Well, they're the winners.
Right?
I mean, seriously.
Oh, if they're happy?
joe rogan
I guess so.
todd glass
Jesus.
joe rogan
But I don't think it's impossible to be happy in this world.
I think that there's a lot of people that don't get there, but I think it's possible.
I think it's possible for anybody to be happy in this world.
todd glass
I agree.
joe rogan
I think that this world though is insanely complex and it requires a much more rigid idea of what you're going to accept and not accept in your life and what you're going to put out there and what you're going to try to get back.
Now I think that it's very, very, very complex.
This is an insanely intricate and woven society.
And these cultural tribes, it's really what we're designed for.
We're designed for these hut environments, these places where there's 500 of us that live in a village together.
That's what we're designed for psychologically.
That's what our brains are designed for.
When you jack it up to 7 billion people in contact with each other, it's going to require some adjustments.
And that's what we're going through right now.
It's not that it's going to be impossible for people to be happy in this crazy day and age.
It's just a little bit more difficult to manage.
And it brings me to this movie that I just watched.
I was on a plane coming back from England and I watched Summertime in Paris.
I think that's what it is.
Is that Woody Allen's movie?
Was it Summertime in Paris?
Let me see.
It's the Owen Wilson movie.
brian redban
It's so hot out here.
joe rogan
Well, that's what was really funny.
He was doing Woody Allen.
Movie.
Woody Allen movie.
Come on.
What's the movie?
Springtime in Paris?
todd glass
Forget your troubles.
Come on, get happy.
joe rogan
When you Google Woody Allen, Midnight in Paris.
That's what it is.
Midnight in Paris.
Sorry, not summertime.
And it was hilarious in this weird...
Well, it was a good movie, first of all.
todd glass
What's it about?
joe rogan
It's about a guy...
It's basically a Woody Allen movie.
He's Woody Allen.
Owen Wilson's doing Woody Allen.
Like, even his mannerisms, everything he does.
todd glass
But he's not admitting it.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He's not admitting it at all.
He's, like, is this a trailer for it?
todd glass
Is that one of those things that nobody will...
joe rogan
Watch how he does it.
unidentified
Like, look.
todd glass
I'm in love with you.
joe rogan
He's so measured and even.
unidentified
it's very Woody Allen-like. - We just decided to reload a lot.
joe rogan
- Oh! - That's great, we can spend some time together.
unidentified
- I think we have a lot of commitments, but I'm sure it's, well... - What?
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
Did you have your slippers on when you watched this?
joe rogan
No.
todd glass
I was naked.
unidentified
No, he was never married to Ro.
I hope you're not going to be as antisocial tomorrow.
I'm not quite as taken with him as you are.
He's a pseudo-intellectual.
Slightly more tannic.
todd glass
Wait a second.
I remember thinking you're right, and then I go, don't just say he's right to say he's right.
Like, Todd, really pay attention.
Once you look for it, then you just see every single joke.
joe rogan
He's doing Woody out, and he does it brilliantly.
It's brilliant.
He's really amazing in this movie.
todd glass
He's perfect.
Would his contemporaries think he should just sort of give an homage to it, or do you have to mention it?
joe rogan
I don't know if you do, but that's what he's doing.
I think Woody wrote it for...
I mean, he's playing a character, obviously.
He's not playing Owen Wilson.
todd glass
Woody wrote it.
Oh, he did?
joe rogan
It's a Woody Allen film.
Oh, you didn't know it was a Woody Allen film?
todd glass
I didn't.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Yes, it's a Woody Allen film.
So, let me see if Woody Allen wrote it.
todd glass
What if I ran out crying?
joe rogan
Yeah, writer and director Woody Allen.
It's so obviously a Woody Allen movie that basically Owen and him agreed that he would do it as Woody Allen.
So it's like he can't do those movies anymore, but he's got them in his head.
But Woody can't really star in movies anymore.
People don't want to see him anymore.
That whole thing with his daughter, it got so weird with so many people.
Regardless of whether they're happy or not, it's so taboo that they've sort of ostracized him.
They allow him to be behind the scenes, but if he's in front of the camera, people are really sketchy about it, unfortunately, or fortunately.
todd glass
But could this work for him?
joe rogan
Yes!
Dude, you should get Owen Wilson to do every fucking movie and do it as Woody Allen.
And Woody Allen could crank out a million fucking hits.
That would be amazing.
I'm telling you, this movie did not get nearly as much credit.
Like, it only got a 7.7 on the IMDB. I don't know if that's good or bad.
But I thought it was a Woody Allen movie.
And if you take away...
Again, some people are not willing to take away their feelings of him as an individual.
todd glass
I didn't even know that much about it.
joe rogan
To appreciate his work.
I don't know...
I know there was some madness with him and his wife and the, you know, the wife...
todd glass
Don't mention his wife.
joe rogan
Yeah, she, uh...
Well, you know, that woman...
todd glass
Makes it look like I know her.
unidentified
What the fuck was her name?
joe rogan
What was her name?
Woody Allen and, uh...
Mia Farrow.
Mia Farrow.
And, uh, look, man, they're a couple fucking Hollywood people.
Who knows what the fuck the truth really is?
They're a bunch of nutty people, but ultimately...
He wound up leaving with her adopted daughter.
todd glass
Yes, I know about that.
joe rogan
So that's, you know, that's crazy, man.
I mean, he was with her from the time when she was like two.
Don't try to be funny.
Have an opinion about that.
todd glass
That's weird, right?
brian redban
I didn't know it was until two.
That's fucked up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I think they adopted her when she was a baby.
She wasn't his biological daughter.
todd glass
So if it's true, obviously, all the judgment is fine, but if it's not, what if...
Well, it is.
joe rogan
He has a relationship with her.
He's married to her, has kids with her.
todd glass
Oh, no.
What am I saying is true?
joe rogan
It's not if it's true.
It's definitely true.
todd glass
That's right, that's right.
joe rogan
It's the moral judgment.
It's like, if she became a woman, and that's what she really wanted, and that's what he really wanted, is that a bad thing?
You know, everybody wants to decide that it is, and I think, you know, ultimately, that's the snap judgment, and that's the one that I would take.
I would go, oh, he's a fucking creep, that's his daughter.
I hate to say this, but when we're dealing with what you should and shouldn't be able to do, and if ultimately this is what two adult people want to do, it sounds disgusting to me, but I don't feel like it's within my jurisdiction to tell adult people what they can and can't do together.
Whether it's a brother and sister.
A brother and sister are in their 40s and they decide to start fucking each other.
Why do I care?
The only reason why I would care is if they decided to make children and there could be some harm to the children.
Why is it a law against them fucking each other?
I mean, I don't want to do it to my sister.
I love my sister.
She's my sister.
It would make me feel disgusting to have sex with her.
I've never thought about it once.
But if you do, what do I give a fuck?
todd glass
Can I tell you why I err if I had to, like, I call gun to my head, go which way is better, your way or the way we do it now?
I always say go on that way.
Because every time we evolve, we don't look past and think we made any mistakes.
You know the one group we were too fair to?
Who knows?
It just seems like the story's going to be most likely everything you're saying.
Who knows what year they'll be like.
There'll be some kid that'll have to go, wait, it used to be wrong to date your...
Your brother?
So we'd be like, yeah, I mean, you know, they'll tell the story.
And it's funny that me and you both need to say, because it doesn't have interesting introspect if it's interesting to one of us.
To think of having sex with my brother.
Fucking, I don't get where I'm at by the, I get by, that's what everyone else does.
They think, well, I wouldn't want to have sex with that person, so that must be gross.
That's what people think of gay people.
So, am I turning around and doing that to another group right now?
I don't know, but fucking, I'm airing on your side and going, leave everybody the fuck alone.
joe rogan
I think as long as you're dealing with two sober adults.
todd glass
Whenever I'm high and I talk about stuff, I get nervous.
That would be the one detail that I would look like an idiot if I go, wait, Todd, that was between this age and that age.
I go, oh my god, no, I was thinking of consenting adults.
joe rogan
Adults.
todd glass
And consenting adults...
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
18 and over, you know, mistakes or no mistakes, you're certainly going to make them.
You're responsible for a certain amount of your actions from a certain age on.
It should be very difficult to trick you.
That's what we try to do.
We try to make it legal to fuck you when it's really difficult to trick you.
Really, people should be able to fuck until they're 30. Okay?
It should be illegal to fuck until you're 30 under that standard.
todd glass
I'm petrified right now.
I'm sorry.
I wasn't listening because I'm petrified to think that I just say...
That being gay was like, fucking your brother or sister?
joe rogan
No!
todd glass
I didn't say that, right?
joe rogan
No, you said that that's how some people would feel about being gay.
You, as a gay man, are repulsed by the idea of fucking your brother.
But some people would think about that as gay sex...
todd glass
Or brother and sister.
Make it brother and sister so it's not weird.
joe rogan
No, it's a perfect analogy because why does anyone care what two people that are adults decide to do, whether it's two women or two men or four women and six men?
Who cares if they are all in agreement and they all are consenting and everybody's sober and no one gets tricked?
todd glass
Because there's plenty of people making psychological mistakes by who they date.
Even if it's because it's a guy and a girl, there's another million reasons.
So this is one more.
Maybe you shouldn't do it and why it's...
I was sort of halfway knew where I was going and then I got lost.
joe rogan
Well, the idea of someone being able to tell someone else what they should enjoy, whether it's sex or music or anything.
todd glass
Right.
Even if we...
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If you're a person who likes getting your feet sucked, you love it, and everybody else thinks it's fucking disgusting.
If someone else likes sucking feet and you two get together, that's awesome.
You know?
I mean, it might freak you out if that's your next-door neighbor, and you're like, yeah, he just sucks feet all the time.
They go over to the guy's house, his feet all over the wall, and his fucking feet phones.
He's just a crazy foot-sucker.
You know?
Don't put that up, dude.
todd glass
Don't put that up.
You know what I sort of...
What I sort of get from what you're saying right now is that, like...
And it's good.
I like to remind myself.
I think of myself as, leave everybody the fuck alone, and don't judge everybody, and just, I know, they...
As long as the people are adults.
Then maybe I catch myself doing...
Oh, of course!
You can have limitations where you can say...
Obviously, that's two consenting fucking adults.
But maybe, even though I think I'm open-minded, you're right, like that...
I would make judgment on someone, you're right, maybe, or make stupid jokes like what you were just talking about, the foot-sucking.
Well, why the fuck?
I don't want to be that person.
joe rogan
Yeah, he likes feet.
Some people like sucking feet.
todd glass
I don't want to be that person who goes, hey, you know that guy...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird.
We all do it.
I think we do it also because we're insecure and because it's also not even necessarily a jump reaction that people have to something that's very different from them.
todd glass
And guess what?
If you found it out, and I'm saying maybe someone hearing this would be like, you know what, I might do that, but now I'm not going to.
Here's what it is.
You don't want to be that person that goes, hey, you know that guy?
For no reason at all, just you found it out about that person.
Two years later, you're still going, yeah, he's a good guy.
I found out he likes sucking feet.
How do you know?
Well, some picture got published.
Why do you have to keep telling everybody that?
joe rogan
Yeah, why do you?
todd glass
Now, look, I don't like sucking feet.
I don't want everyone to get nervous.
There's a picture of me.
Oh, that's a joke.
I was doing a sketch.
joe rogan
You sucking feet in a sketch?
todd glass
You're like, if you had a picture of me sucking feet in a sketch.
That was an old SNL audition that I used to make my own tapes.
joe rogan
That was this thing I used to do.
That's hilarious.
That's so funny.
todd glass
Jesus.
I'm going to leave more people alone.
That's all I want to do.
joe rogan
Listen, it's fine.
You're not alienating anybody with foot suckers.
todd glass
Oh yeah, that I know.
joe rogan
It's such a small segment.
You don't have to worry.
todd glass
Or they could laugh at it.
That's my rule.
I think I try to adhere to that.
Like someone that did suck feet could listen to this and laugh.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think they're going to be offended.
I think we're pretty much giving them the green light.
todd glass
Thank you.
joe rogan
We're giving everybody the green light.
As long as you're not hurting anybody else.
But it's one of those things where like, have you ever told someone that you like a certain thing and they go, oh, that fucking sucks.
But it doesn't suck to me.
Do you know I like it?
I actually do like it.
I like this band.
I like that new food.
todd glass
Yeah, it's like so many things that we're comfortable to talk about that we don't like.
No one has to lie they like Italian food.
But some areas...
joe rogan
Kimchi!
You like kimchi.
Get the fuck out of here.
You like kimchi, they'll get mad at you.
You like kimchi.
And I go, I buy it.
I like it.
unidentified
It's delicious.
todd glass
What the fuck is wrong with you, bro?
joe rogan
You're eating kimchi over there?
todd glass
It would never do that if someone goes, you got a red?
You like a red car?
Can't believe it.
Yeah, I like different.
joe rogan
Red is a little tricky.
Red's a little douchey.
todd glass
Well, I don't have a red car.
joe rogan
You have a red sports car?
brian redban
You almost got one, didn't you?
joe rogan
I've never had a red car in my life.
brian redban
What color is your car?
You were like, I'm thinking about just getting a red car.
todd glass
What color is your car?
joe rogan
I get silly.
todd glass
What color is your car?
unidentified
White.
White?
joe rogan
White.
todd glass
What kind of car?
joe rogan
It's a Porsche.
It's a Porsche.
todd glass
And is it...
Wait, I won't even ask.
I was going to say, is it a four-door?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
But they make those now.
todd glass
I know, I know.
Here's the thing.
I thought, like, you know how when you don't know...
I don't know.
Like, it seems to be...
Because one person I knew that likes Porsches were like, no, that's not cool.
And then I thought, oh, do people think they're not cool?
But not knowing when I just saw one, I was like, fuck.
Like, I don't even...
That's not the type of car I usually like.
It just looked like a cool sedan.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
I didn't know it was a Porsche until I looked.
joe rogan
There's a problem that people have with rich people items like that and that they automatically dismiss them as being a douchey thing to have because so many douchey people own them.
But the reality is what they are is marvels of engineering.
They're these amazing creations by these geniuses and artisans.
I mean, to me, that's what it is.
It's an expression of art.
It's geometric art.
It's functional, mechanical art.
They figured out how to make this exciting, exhilarating thing that performs in a way that other cars don't.
And it looks great.
It's like a cool, sleek...
I like the way they designed it.
I think it's a beautiful piece of engineering.
todd glass
You know, it's funny you mention that because there's something I probably do.
Like, I sometimes...
Like, we've talked about on the show that I wouldn't want to pull up.
There's a lot of cars where I do my show.
I look down on these cars.
Oh, there's so many that I fucking love.
Like, I could just...
I get at the sight lines.
I'm more of an SUV guy, I think.
But I can look at so many of those cars.
But I wouldn't drive one to the improv because...
I've said this on my show.
I go, because...
I don't know you, but what the fuck?
unidentified
Why...
joe rogan
Why not?
unidentified
I'm...
todd glass
That's like doing exactly the opposite of what I preach to do.
It's like, and I prejudge.
I do.
I prejudge.
joe rogan
Yeah, we all do.
todd glass
But I know that person might drive it up for the same reason That I sit upstairs and look down at the cars and go, fuck, look at that one.
Look at that.
We go over and we touch it and the paint feels different and thicker.
But yet I would be afraid to do it.
Well, maybe, you know.
joe rogan
You shouldn't be.
todd glass
Tomorrow I'm going to buy a Doom Buggy.
What if that's the car that I want?
unidentified
Do it!
Do it!
joe rogan
One of those crazy VW bugs that has like the extra wide fender flares and engine exposed.
Drive around with that, convertible.
unidentified
That's the one I like.
todd glass
Joe Rogan told me it's all right!
joe rogan
Just painting whatever fucking color you're like.
todd glass
It's like a bubble machine I have going out of it.
Talk to Joe Rogan!
joe rogan
It's inside of it.
It's constantly blowing bubbles.
todd glass
A little sound.
joe rogan
Todd Glass, ladies and gentlemen.
Pulling up to his spot.
todd glass
When Todd told me, you know, this is you going, when Todd told me that he wanted to appreciate a car, I thought he meant like an old Porsche.
I didn't know he was going to get that.
He's blaming me.
I mean, yes, technically.
joe rogan
A dune buggy with a full roll cage.
todd glass
I was so jealous in my neighborhood when someone had a dune buggy.
joe rogan
This guy's got a dune buggy at the bottom of the ocean?
Is that what this is?
brian redban
It's a beetle cage car where they can drive around on the bottom of the ocean.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
brian redban
And there's a cage so sharks can't get him.
joe rogan
That's incredible!
Oh my god, what a genius idea.
What if a little shark swims in there and bites you right in the dick?
There's plenty of holes in that fucking thing.
They're crazy.
I would need weapons and Kevlar.
todd glass
What do you do?
I have...
You know the whole SeaWorld thing that's going on?
joe rogan
I hate it.
I hate the idea.
I've spent too much time paying attention to killer whales and dolphins and reading about them.
I hate it.
todd glass
Let me ask you a question.
joe rogan
It's slavery.
It's slavery to an alien animal that we don't understand.
todd glass
What do you do with people that, like, if they can...
Look, there's some things I do that make me hypocritical.
And I'm asking you to help me fight the fight.
What do you do with this?
Because, you know, someone will go, what about...
So I agree with the...
I agree 100%.
It's like, no, come on.
The way we will treat them is the way we treat each other.
It's more than that.
Not that it has to do with it, but it does.
Even if it ended right there on that animal's pain and it didn't affect the way those humans that can do that treat other people.
On that alone, it's wrong.
But don't think for a second that that's not also...
If you have the ability to do that, you're not bringing home a good energy to your kids.
Those people that fucking do that, they go home to children.
They pass that.
There's something vile and unaware of a human thing to slug it in.
Now, what do I do with people that go, you eat meat, and that's the way it's...
What I've set up till now is this.
I go, I don't want to be a smoker that smokes because I can't quit.
I want to be the smoker I was.
I used to smoke, and while I smoked, I knew it was vile and disgusting.
I didn't think, well, I don't have the ability to quit, so I may pretend and give a public outward thing of going, you know, you can eat a candy bar, too.
You know those people that write it off because they can't quit.
I just called it vile, and that led to me quitting one day.
So I want to do the same thing with the meat.
Just because I'm lazy or whatever it is right now, And I might be partaking in some of that slaughtering because of the way I eat every day.
It doesn't negate that I know it's wrong.
joe rogan
Right.
todd glass
And SeaWorld thing.
Like, come on.
How can someone think that's okay, Joe?
And some of your listeners you know might disagree with us.
Just like the SeaWorld thing.
Just when you hear the facts and the sighs and you get it, it's a bathtub.
And they take away from its family and all that.
What listening person right now, and I mean that wholeheartedly, is sitting home going...
Oh, it's SeaWorld.
Come on.
Now you're being ridiculous.
joe rogan
It's worse than prison, okay?
Because it's being imprisoned by an alien species.
Prison, at least you could talk to the guards.
It's an insane relationship that they have, those killer whales have, with those trainers.
And it's atrocious.
The idea is insane.
They are incredibly intelligent.
They have a very complex language that we can't decipher.
They have different accents for different regions.
They recognize each other.
They have very tight-knit colonies.
They stay together forever.
We just can't appreciate the way they live their life.
But their world is a magical wonderland where they are the top dog of the sea.
They kill sharks, man.
They got their name, killer whale, because they kill whales.
They kill small whales.
They'll go up to a humpback whale, have a child, and they'll tear it apart.
I watched a horrible video of it the other day.
I mean, we like to think of orcas as being these really sweet things that jump for fish.
They're murderous machines when they're out there in the wild.
They kill dolphins on a regular basis.
But for them, that's the spoils of the real world.
That's how they got to the top of the food chain, by being these ruthless, super-intelligent motherfuckers that live in this playground of the ocean.
And they migrate up and down the coast, and they've done so for thousands and thousands of years.
Until this fucking tiny blip in time, this industrialized age, this age of aquariums, this age where they figured out how to capture those fucking things and stuff them into fucking swimming pools.
It is slavery.
It should be Highly illegal.
The people that want to do it should, without a doubt, they should tax them out of fucking business.
There should be no way you should be able to profit off taking a thing and making it do tricks.
And when you find out how they train them and you hear the things they do, they isolate them and put them in small tanks.
It's way crazier than putting a person in solitary confinement.
They have them all stuffed together.
Physically, they can't fucking move.
They wind up biting each other in aggravation.
It's slavery.
It's just slavery of a non-human but equal level intelligence.
We have this idea that just because they can't alter their environment with their fingers, that they're not super intelligent.
But that's our own biases.
They're insanely intelligent.
In fact, their cerebral cortex is something like 40% larger than a human being's.
We don't know what the fuck, what's going on in their mind, but they're absolutely aware that what we're doing to them is not what they want.
They want to be fucking free.
And just because you charge money, you say, well, it's going to go to conservation.
You know what else would go to conservation?
Awareness.
Let people know what magical animals they are.
People will donate.
todd glass
By the way, whenever I hear more on podcasts where we'll ask those type of questions, I go, who?
I always go, if I had a show, and people go, you do have a show.
I go, yeah, but I mean, got near the people that I want to ask the questions.
How come nobody has told them yet, in a better way than I could tell, ask this?
But no one, I've never asked, saw one interviewer when they're interviewing these people that say, well, we give a lot of money.
Would you be able to molest a group of children but then give seven million dollars a year to the cause of molestation?
It's a good point.
Does that erase it?
No, it's like there's such a, like Dr. Phil calls a paper argument.
You're making an argument that's not really being had.
You're trying to act like the argument is, why do you give money to the...
joe rogan
Well, that's the argument also for hunting.
The argument for hunting is that when you hunt, the hunters pay for tags, and those tags pay for conservation.
And in fact, hunters do better.
There's more money that comes to conservation for preserving animals that come from hunting than I think almost any other source.
todd glass
Is hunting bad?
joe rogan
No, no.
Not only is it not bad, it's important.
todd glass
Right, that's what I thought.
joe rogan
You have to manage the levels of the car.
If you've ever been on a road in Wisconsin or some shit like that, like late at night, you have to manage that.
People are going to die.
Unless you introduce predators into the environment, unless you introduce wolves, which is equally dangerous.
And we're starting to see the results of that.
There's people that are getting attacked by wolves.
A guy was hunting with his friend and they had to fight off a fucking wolf pack.
This was really recently.
And they were trying to fight over an elk carcass.
And it becomes a real issue.
And they dominate areas.
And they don't take kindly to some new hunter coming in.
There's a video I put up on Twitter.
A guy runs into wolves while elk hunting.
I put it up a while ago.
Just look up on YouTube.
Ran into wolves while elk hunting.
And there was this really fucking crazy video of these dudes.
Elk hunting and these wolves are around them, circling them, howling and shit.
It's fucking eerie.
And they're like, oh shit.
But they have guns, so they're not freaking out too much.
But they're like, oh shit, this is crazy.
Like the wolves were like following them, looking around at them.
Like they would hear one over there and then one would run through the woods in front of them.
unidentified
It was really fucking weird.
todd glass
Coyotes, that's what we see in Los Angeles?
Or is it wolves?
joe rogan
Those are coyotes.
todd glass
When I see a coyote on my street, If it's anywhere near my house, especially in front of my house, I will rather, if I had the money, I would go check into a hotel.
Because I'm always afraid when I get out of the car, they're going to be lurking out of every tree around my house.
So it's like I just picture that.
I get creeped, and I... I bolt from my house to my front door.
You should.
joe rogan
A guy just got bit in Colorado.
A guy got attacked by coyotes at a bus stop.
todd glass
I like that you're legitimizing it.
joe rogan
Wolf hunting surrounded by wolves with a bow.
It's the first one.
See this, Brian?
Just wolf hunting.
Yeah.
Listen to the fucking sounds these things are making.
These guys were out there...
Hunting and the wolves started circling them and finding out where they were and like communicating with each other They would like one of them would pop out and they were like staring at the dudes And then they would go back into the forest and another one would come from a different direction They're all making these crazy noises man.
unidentified
It's really fucking badass They're hungry enough, right?
joe rogan
Oh, they'll kill you for sure if they think they get away with it But they they're very aware of these dudes and so they're they're letting these dudes know But they have their guns No, they have bows and arrows.
brian redban
How different are they from coyotes?
joe rogan
That's sketchy.
Much, much bigger.
Much bigger, much stronger, much scarier, much smarter.
They eat coyotes.
brian redban
They kill coyotes all the time.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
Coyotes are sneaky fucks, man.
They're very sneaky.
They figure out how to get over fences and shit.
Coyotes figure out a lot of ways to get into your...
They get into my yard, man.
They got into my yard, and I have a high fence.
unidentified
That's a big one.
joe rogan
Yeah, so he's blowing an elk horn to try to get them to come over.
And that might have been what they responded to in the first place.
They blow these horns that sound...
They have two different ones.
One of them that sounds like a male elk, which is kind of scary.
And another one that sounds like a female or a baby.
And that's what brings the wolves around.
todd glass
So these guys are going to soon have wolves around them?
joe rogan
They have wolves around them right now.
todd glass
Oh, they do?
joe rogan
These fucking assholes are still making these calls because they're elk hunting.
They're looking to get an elk.
But they're not going to get an elk right now because there's wolves everywhere.
There's a thing going on right now in part of the country where they've reintroduced wolves because the wolf population had been decimated.
So they reintroduced wolves, but they used a larger Canadian wolf.
It's like using Germans instead of pygmies.
You know what I mean?
They're both wolves, but one of them is a motherfucker that gets to be about 200 pounds.
And so these big-ass wolves have been decimating these elk populations.
So that's your options.
If you don't want hunting, you have to bring in wolves.
I'd say we're probably safer with the hunting.
todd glass
Matter of fact, I was surprised because I always thought I couldn't hunt myself, but I always knew that that...
That that was always a good way.
An animal has a life.
It doesn't suffer.
I know they get killed, but you're talking about in the plants where an animal's whole life, the day it's killed is the best day of its life.
joe rogan
And not only that, the life is absolutely wild as nature intended.
Nothing changes until that one moment and then they get shot.
So it is the freest of free range possible.
And a lot of times they've never even seen a person before.
And a lot of times also you're dealing with environments, especially, I went hunting in Montana, and they lose a giant amount every year, just they freeze to death.
They get killed by predators, they freeze to death, or they get lame.
And if they get lame, they get killed by predators.
I mean, there's a lot of different predators in that area.
We found mountain lion shit, and it was a log of mountain lion shit, and it was filled with hair.
So it was a deer hair.
So that's how they go.
They freeze to death, or they get killed by mountain lions.
They're not gonna make it.
No one makes it.
No deer die of old age.
Doesn't happen.
Doesn't exist.
So it's just a matter of who kills them.
Whether it's a predator or whether it's a human, this fucking thing is dying in a couple years in a horrible way.
todd glass
Do you know I didn't realize what you just said until...
I don't remember what year it was, but it was in my adult life.
I always had to visualize an animal a certain age.
What you just said I sort of realized once, and I went...
Oh, they do any?
I mean, statistically do any?
joe rogan
No, none of them do.
So none of them do?
No one makes it.
Maybe elephants.
Maybe they used to.
todd glass
So just, and I don't know if you know, just get me in the right area, I'll be happy.
So let's say you're a, I don't want to pick an animal too far up, how long does a deer live?
joe rogan
Oh, if it's lucky, it gets five years in.
It's got to be really lucky, though.
Really lucky.
Super lucky.
And then as it gets like six and seven, they get old and haggard, and then something takes them out.
Either they break a leg, hop at a fence, and they freeze to death.
That happens all the time.
All the time.
Especially in northern areas.
Or predators get them.
If they break a leg in California, they're not going to freeze to death, but they'll probably get killed by something that comes along and finds them.
todd glass
You know how they say if it's cliche, it's true?
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
Nature can be cruel.
joe rogan
Nature's a bitch.
todd glass
As you're talking, as you're telling, like half of this I never even would think of.
I was like, forgot about the, they get old, they fall over.
It's like, nature can be fucking cruel.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, there's also an amount of limited food supply.
Depending upon the area, that's one of the things that conservationists do best.
And including these game wardens and the fish and game wardens.
They figure out how much land there is, how much food there is, how many animals can be sustained, and then what is the population.
And then they release tags based on those estimates.
So the whole idea behind it is managing populations.
And they pull hunting back.
If there's any sort of a problem, if the species are being extinct.
In fact, like, bighorn sheep, when we were in Montana, these fucking things are everywhere.
todd glass
Oh, so you've hunted?
joe rogan
I went hunting for deer.
But when we were there, we saw more sheep than we saw deer, but it's really hard to get a sheep tag to kill a sheep, even though there's a lot of them, because they're trying to build up the population, because they were decimated at one point in time.
There was also, there's wolves there as well.
Montana wolves.
There's coyotes.
There's mountain lions.
There's plenty of predators out there.
So they didn't necessarily need humans to take care of this population.
They want to build it up to substantial size.
You see that in Nevada as well.
todd glass
What's the most amount...
Sounds like a weird question, but what's the most amount of animals you've...
You know, I mean, you could say 50 or 100 running together.
joe rogan
In nature, not on TV? In elk, you can see hundreds.
todd glass
Have you?
joe rogan
No, I've never seen it.
But in Colorado, there's a town called Evergreen, and we were visiting, and there's this area of Evergreen where this main street is, and they have a photo, I think it's on their website.
todd glass
What's the most you've ever seen?
joe rogan
I've seen several deer together, like four and five deer together.
I think probably the most I've ever seen.
Many times I've seen moose.
I've seen five moose total, but not more than two together.
todd glass
I've never seen a moose.
We talked about it the other night, and we were saying...
I swear to God, we were talking about the moose.
Are we thinking of the cartoon moose, or are we actually thinking of the real moose?
And we decided that, no, even the real moose has got some crazy characters.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
You know what I mean?
Obviously they amplify it, but even the real...
So we pulled one up online.
I was like, oh yeah, that looks like something that shouldn't be real.
That's what I thought.
joe rogan
Someone told me that the nose, the length of the nose...
Did you tell me this?
todd glass
No.
joe rogan
The length of the nose is because it warms the air up before it gets to the brain.
Because you're dealing with something that's so fucking cold.
The air is so fucking cold that they have to have this long nose.
So as they breathe in the air, it gets heated up slowly along the way before it gets to their head.
Because they're dealing with like 50 below zero weather.
They don't hibernate.
todd glass
Oh, that's right.
I forgot about that.
Where do moose...
joe rogan
Alaska.
They live in Alaska?
No, they live in Montana, too.
In Colorado, where I was, someone had moose droppings that they had discovered.
So they get into Colorado.
There's moose in several states, but in Alaska, they're really plentiful.
todd glass
I wonder if, because, you know, I mean, keep in mind, like, you know...
A lot of people aren't that bright.
A lot are, but some aren't.
So these are the ones I'm talking about.
I wonder if moose killings, when people would see them, would be higher than other animals because dumb people are going, oh, it's a moose, and not getting it's a ferocious animal.
Would people ever get to be near mooses?
joe rogan
Yeah, people die in moose attacks all the time.
todd glass
Is that true?
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
Oh, so maybe I'm right.
joe rogan
Someone died recently in Anchorage on the school campus.
I think a moose got in and killed somebody.
They panic, and they'll stomp you to death if they're with their baby.
todd glass
All I'm thinking of is the happy moose, and I can't imagine them in a fit of rage.
joe rogan
Well, twice we stumbled upon moose that had a child, and we were super careful.
todd glass
I bet they're cute.
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
The child is big like a fucking Great Dane already.
todd glass
Oh, it's born?
You think the size of a great day?
joe rogan
No, but it was when we saw it.
It was obviously a baby, but it was still a big fucking animal, even though it was a baby.
But the mother was huge.
The mother was absolutely massive, and she just locked eyes with us.
They're pretty acclimated to human beings, and they're pretty sure of when people are dangerous and when they're not.
They also know that there's occasionally a bang sound that comes from people, and then one of their friends disappears.
They're aware.
They're not sure what the fuck is going on, but they're aware.
Oh, fucking people.
If you're ever in a place that has a lot of hunting pressure, the deer are super skittish.
But when you're in Boulder, Colorado, when you're driving around, deer are just chilling on the corner.
As the cars are going back and forth, there's a 10-point buck just chilling on the corner, eating grass.
When cars are fucking flying around all around them, they don't give a fuck because there's zero pressure from hunters.
They acclimate.
todd glass
Right, right.
joe rogan
I mean, Boulder is crazy.
I've never seen a place like that.
I got out with my kids, and I made sure that I stood in front of them if the deer got really sketchy.
But usually they run away.
They don't try to be aggressive, and the males especially.
Except when they're looking for girls, that's when they can be dangerous.
Towards the winter, towards the fall, the rut, when they start getting really horny, if you cockblock a deer, they'll fuck you up.
todd glass
I'm scared.
I'm the biggest chicken.
If I could drive in the car, I would appreciate it.
To be near it, I'm scared.
joe rogan
You should be.
It's a healthy intelligence, is what it is.
todd glass
Every time I see a picture up there and I don't like it, it makes me paranoid.
joe rogan
Of yourself?
todd glass
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, let's take it down.
todd glass
No, it's okay.
joe rogan
Why?
We don't need it.
It's just a distraction.
todd glass
Newscaster hair.
joe rogan
Yeah, we could just shut it up, right?
todd glass
No, I don't.
joe rogan
Put the logo on or something.
I don't want to freak you out.
todd glass
Oh, but doesn't the audience see this?
joe rogan
No, the audience sees it no matter what.
We just don't have to say it.
todd glass
Oh, see, there you go.
What are they seeing now?
What were we just saying about the...
Oh, yeah, so when I go to...
You know D.C. where there's a lot of monuments and the squirrels are used to people?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
todd glass
Like that...
If I see a squirrel from a distance...
By the way, you know there's no more squirrels in Lake Arrowhead?
joe rogan
What?
todd glass
Isn't that weird?
joe rogan
What do you mean?
todd glass
I almost, when somebody said it, I went, no, there's maybe less.
I go, no more squirrels.
And then I asked somebody.
There was something that happened about five years ago or seven years ago with some disease that was up there, West Nile type.
I think that's what it was.
I'm not positive.
But it's the only thing, like, you know, when we hear about, like, for me, you know, I always just hear about, you know, like you just said, when they're trying to save certain animals, they cut off the hunting in certain areas or we're trying not to kill whales or, you know, all that.
unidentified
Right.
todd glass
But it was such a, to see an example of it, to go, after I realized that I was We'd start noticing.
I'd go, no, there's squirrels.
Maybe there's less.
No squirrels.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's crazy.
todd glass
That could just not exist.
Like, that shows you, like, the magnitude of, like, just fuck.
And that's what happens to other animals.
unidentified
I love squirrels.
todd glass
You just don't notice it.
Oh, from a distance?
joe rogan
They're so cute.
todd glass
My mom had a squirrel.
But she knew that when it was at a certain age, she had to let it go.
She's, like, smart enough.
She's not going to be one of those people with an animal that belongs in nature.
But she nursed it back to health.
She found it in her garage.
joe rogan
Right.
todd glass
And then she just let it on her patio.
But it wouldn't go anywhere.
And it would just stay there.
And, you know, I forget what happened.
I've told this story two times, and each time I forget what happened.
But she had it for a long time.
Oh, she gave it to her friend!
It wouldn't leave her house, and she couldn't take it anymore.
joe rogan
Wow, so her friend became the mama.
todd glass
Yeah, and then the same thing.
Then after that, I don't know what happened.
I got hit by a bus!
I'm just kidding.
Why would I forget that?
joe rogan
That's a weird thing that happens with wild animals, though, when you take them in, is that to reintroduce them back to being wild is super difficult.
They grew up getting food for free.
Now they've got to go look for it?
todd glass
Yeah, that's why it is...
I don't know what you should do.
joe rogan
Squirrels are the vegans of the rodent world.
todd glass
Oh, they don't eat meat?
joe rogan
No, they eat nuts.
That's why they're so sweet.
That's why you don't have to worry about them.
Like rats, those cunts, they eat everything.
They eat fucking shit.
They'll eat condoms.
They'll eat your dick.
They'll eat whatever's in front of them.
Rats are assholes.
todd glass
That's, to me, you just gave legitimacy.
Now look, if I see any rodent, I get a little freaked out.
But when I see a rat in New York City, here's what I think of.
Their belly filled with trash.
joe rogan
How about filled with dead rats?
todd glass
Yeah.
Oh, they'll eat other rats?
joe rogan
Oh, fuck yeah.
They will eat rats in Encino.
I lived in Encino, and I had a rat in my garage.
A little rat problem.
I put my garbage in my garage before I would put it outside.
And these rats, this apartment, those hills up there in Encino, they're infested with rats.
And this fucking giant rat got killed in a trap.
I mean, it was fucking huge.
It was as big as this thermos.
This thermos is about, the body of the thermos is about 12 inches long.
It was a huge rat.
todd glass
You just rat splat everywhere.
joe rogan
I had a big ass rat trap, and it just smashed his head and killed him.
But it was so big that I went out there, I was like, whoa!
I was kind of freaked out.
Well, I said, I'll clean that up in the morning.
I was a bachelor, you know?
Lazy bitch.
I shut the light off.
I shut the door.
I go to bed.
I get up in the morning, and it's gone.
The only thing that's left is its tail.
They didn't eat the tail.
They ate everything else.
They ate the whole rat.
They found out it was fresh meat.
It was their buddy.
They were like, good, this guy was a dick.
Anyway, let's eat.
And they ate him.
And that's why rats are scary.
Rats don't even wait for you to be cold before they eat you if you're their friend.
They cannibalize on the natch.
It's normal.
That's how you get by.
There's no stigma about...
What are you doing?
brian redban
I'm just a squirrel.
joe rogan
Oh.
brian redban
This girl at a golf game the other day took a squirrel out of another guy's pants and put it on Tiger Woods.
joe rogan
Why does a guy have a squirrel on his pants?
brian redban
I don't know.
Tiger's like, just get that squirrel.
todd glass
And then I thought he was pretty nice about it, but get the fucking squirrel off my neck.
joe rogan
Are they friends?
brian redban
I don't know.
todd glass
Well, maybe they are.
joe rogan
Is that his girlfriend?
Isn't that his girlfriend?
brian redban
Oh, it's a girlfriend.
joe rogan
I think that's his girlfriend.
She's a squirrel lover.
What can you tell?
What can you say?
Yeah, they're the acceptable rodent, you know?
I mean, you can have a pet rat, don't get me wrong.
Guinea pigs are a little sketchy.
But squirrels, like, oh, they're free and wild, but yet they're so cute.
They're the only rodents we see in the wild.
We go, aw, he's so cute.
todd glass
Which one?
joe rogan
Squirrels.
Oh, squirrels, right, right, right.
Because we have this attitude about them.
Chipmunks.
Oh, chipmunks.
todd glass
Because their tail.
Thank God they got their tail.
joe rogan
Chipmunks are actually even cuter.
brian redban
They're adorable.
joe rogan
When I was in Boulder, there was a lot of chipmunks out there.
todd glass
And we don't get grossed out by them either.
joe rogan
No, we don't get...
And again, same thing.
todd glass
But do they eat the same thing rats eat?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
The chipmunks are like, they're eating nuts.
todd glass
Nuts and leaves and shit like that.
Maybe if they wouldn't eat so much trash, maybe we should tell them, stop eating trash and people won't be as scared of you.
joe rogan
Well, they carry diseases too.
They absolutely carry diseases.
They carry rabies.
Didn't rats have something to do with the Black Plague?
Didn't we research that once?
todd glass
I don't think I could.
I know I couldn't.
That's the thing.
I couldn't.
If I set a rat trap, I could never go near it.
I'm like, biggest chicken in the world with that stuff.
And I hate it.
Like, I hate it.
Like, one time I saw a bird fly into a pool at a house I was living in when I first moved to L.A. And it jumped.
It got into the water.
And I could have run out and save it.
And I fucking couldn't.
It was a bird.
I could have reached in and gotten it.
And I couldn't.
So I yelled for somebody else.
I'm like, hey, come on down to the pool!
The bird just flew into the pool!
And it died.
Because I was too scared shitless to go over and touch the bird.
Other people walk over, scoop it up.
I hate that about myself.
joe rogan
You should volunteer for a petting zoo.
Get over that shit.
todd glass
Well, no, I'd go to the petting zoo, but by that time, they're so numb.
joe rogan
You need to hang out with, like, well, he's dead.
I was going to say the crocodile hunter.
todd glass
I don't want to get that extreme, but I'd like to not be squared.
joe rogan
So, listen to this.
The Black Death, which is the rat disease, killed an estimated 75 to 200 million people, and peaking in Europe through the years 1348 to 1350. Although there was several competing theories as to the etiology of the black death analysis of DNA from the victims of northern and southern Europe published in 2010 and 11 indicates
that the pathogen responsible had something to do with rats.
Spread through rats.
I'm trying to figure out Oh, here it is.
Okay.
It was carried from fleas, actually, that lived in the rats.
Oriental rat fleas that were living on black rats that were regular passengers on merchant ships.
So it spread throughout the Mediterranean and Europe.
That's why they were so scared of rats.
And Black Death estimated to kill, ready for this, 30 to 60% of Europe's total population at the time.
todd glass
So there's a reason they have this reputation.
unidentified
Dude.
todd glass
Some of it unfairly though.
joe rogan
30 to 60% of their total population.
Can you imagine if something came along and wiped out 6 out of 10 of all of us?
todd glass
I think it should have a meaner reputation than it does.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
todd glass
You know what I mean?
You're a rat.
Well, that's not that bad.
It should mean despicable.
joe rogan
It should mean very bad.
brian redban
Like 9-11-y.
todd glass
Yes, thank you.
joe rogan
It shouldn't just be that you told on somebody.
todd glass
Yeah, you rat.
Well, I think that's like, you know...
joe rogan
Listen to this.
All in all, the plague reduced the world population from an estimated 450 million down to 350 million in the 14th century.
todd glass
What year is this?
joe rogan
14th century, so 1300s.
So it killed...
That's insane, man.
It killed 100 million people, at least.
75 to 200 million people.
That's insane.
todd glass
So hard for me to even think about those years.
joe rogan
And apparently it lasted forever.
I mean they couldn't cure things back then.
It just would last for years and years and years and years and years.
People kept dying of these horrible fucking diseases and some people would barely get through it and their immune systems would strengthen and some people would just fucking drop off like flies.
todd glass
Did you know the washing of your hands and everything was sort of not agreed upon by everybody at first?
For babies.
joe rogan
For giving birth.
They didn't.
unidentified
Surgery.
todd glass
Wouldn't wash their hands.
It was almost like the people that washed their hands.
That's why I'm saying, Joe, everything leads down to the same thing.
Just because people didn't do it.
There's those things today.
Don't be on the wrong side.
Because every time in history you look stupid.
There was a group of people arguing over washing your hands.
Well, there's that thing going on today.
So err on the right side of it.
Or the story's going to be about what a moron you were.
joe rogan
Well, this weird denial about global warming that to me is absolutely fascinating because it's really one of the few arguments that have anything to do with nature and the nature of the world that have these ideologies attached to it.
Liberal ideologies and conservative ideologies battling it out.
And when I hear conservative people say that it hasn't been proven that humans are responsible for global warming or that it's just a cycle of life or...
Oftentimes, I talk to them about it, and they aren't even paying attention to the actual effects of global warming.
They have this vague idea of what the impact of global warming is.
Their main concern is defending conservative business practices and conservative ideologies.
And that's like where they go to immediately to strengthen up the gate and battle down for argument.
And it's the...
Okay, well, who the fuck knows who's doing it?
Look at what's happening.
How much do you know about what's happening?
And that's when you...
It's minuscule.
These people have very little idea for the most part.
People are like really passionate about the subject.
I'm sure there's a few experts out there that disagree with me right now, but I'm just saying that by my personal experience, a lot of people that I meet, and I don't have an opinion on it because I'm not a fucking climate scientist, but I've talked to like 25-year-old guys, you know, they're like, you know, hard asses, and they're like, look, fucking Earth's temperature's been changing for, you know, a million years.
It goes up and down, the dinosaurs lived in a totally different...
Okay, that doesn't matter.
You know what else we know?
We know there used to be an ice age, too.
Do you know that?
Do you know that half of North America was under like a mile-high sheet of ice?
But what we do know is, it's happening right now, for sure.
todd glass
Well, but let me ask you, and this might be a no-shit type of a thing, isn't the argument you would think on the people that think, let's do what we need to do to do whatever we can do, isn't what you should do the same whether you believe in we could change it or whether you can't?
Let's say you think you can't change it, we can't fix it.
You would still want to respect the planet while we're here.
So you cannot believe in it and still...
I don't understand what the argument is to not acknowledge, because isn't the whole fight to try to be more aware of how much gas we use, right?
Isn't that the ultimate goal, to prove that it's happening?
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
Does that make any sense?
joe rogan
No, no, it totally makes sense.
todd glass
I thought we were trying to prove, let's use less because, look, the global warming is our way of proving it, maybe making people believe it.
So where I'm confused is, so even if we can't reverse it, what's the downside of doing everything they say to do?
joe rogan
Right.
todd glass
Does that make sense?
joe rogan
Well, the downside is that businesses would have to change some of their parameters, like car businesses.
What do they do if they have coal burning plants?
What do they do?
There's real problems in parts of China that the pollution has gotten so bad from coal burning that they literally can't go outside.
There was this insane video that was on TV the other day.
Let me pull this up.
Smaug in China.
It's fucking nuts, man.
These people are walking down the street, and their face is covered with masks and stuff, and they're trudging through, and it looks like they're in an apocalypse movie.
I mean, it's worse than The Road.
You know the gloomy look, that mood, The Road, this gloomy, apocalyptic world?
This is way worse than that.
todd glass
And people live like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, it's insane.
You couldn't make a movie like this unless you added it in later, because you couldn't expect the actors to work in that kind of conditions.
todd glass
If you made a movie about the apocalypse.
Where is this at?
joe rogan
China.
todd glass
And they can't live that long, right?
joe rogan
No, they can't live long at all.
It's killing them, for sure.
There's no doubt about it.
There's no doubt about it.
It's killing people at a rapid pace.
It's probably taking decades off their life.
Record smog levels shut down the city of Harbin.
This is it.
Pull it up, Brian.
Pull up Smog in China, and it's the first video on...
Under videos in Google, it's fucking crazy, man.
You're seeing these people walk down the street and you're like, oh my god, you nutty fucks have poisoned your city to the point where people can't even breathe the air.
And still, everyone's tolerating it.
Still, everyone needs jobs.
Still, everyone needs to feed their kids.
So they just let these businesses continue to operate the way they are.
Everything, they should divide all the food, everything should be shut down for a fucking month.
Just let the air clear out.
Jesus Christ.
Look what you're doing.
Pull up the video, Brian.
Look what they're fucking doing.
Look at this.
Look at this, Todd Glass.
todd glass
Okay, I want to remember to ask you this.
joe rogan
Look behind you.
You can see it.
This is fucking madness.
todd glass
Oh, I saw this!
joe rogan
This is incredible, incredible madness.
todd glass
I didn't know what it was.
unidentified
...to be no more than 20. Anything above 300 is considered...
joe rogan
Back that up so that makes sense.
He's describing what's wrong with the content.
unidentified
...organization recommends daily levels of particulate matter with a diameter of 2.5 micrometers to be no more than 20. Anything above 300 is considered dangerous.
Levels around a thousand were recorded in some parts of Harbin.
All schools were shut and the airport was closed.
todd glass
Wait, what schools are shut?
unidentified
Carbon is home to some 11 million people.
todd glass
What if that's still in your head?
joe rogan
Snow days?
todd glass
Wait, there's such a school.
joe rogan
Well, that's you growing up in Philly.
California people don't understand that.
We love snow days.
Snow days was the greatest thing ever.
todd glass
Remember that voice?
98, 100 closed.
101 closed.
unidentified
We were 102. They'd go 103. And whenever you were, they'd skip you.
todd glass
You'd be like, shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Remember you would call a number?
They had a number to call for school closings, and they would tell you all the school closings in a recording.
brian redban
Man, they don't have that shit anymore.
They'd just tweet it, probably.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure they'd probably send the parents emails.
That's on the mass email to all the students.
todd glass
That's such a great one to think of, like...
Oh shit, that is like another fucking thing.
joe rogan
Snow days are awesome.
brian redban
Did you hear about that teacher?
todd glass
I never liked school.
brian redban
University of Iowa teacher, teacher assistant, sent out her whole entire class.
She was supposed to send out the answers to the thing, but sent out pictures of her and her boyfriend masturbating.
joe rogan
Yeah, whoopsies.
brian redban
Where did this happen?
joe rogan
Iowa.
brian redban
Iowa.
joe rogan
Whoopsies.
It's just what happens when you fuck around with email.
You don't know what you're doing.
Those snow days were fucking awesome, though, man.
todd glass
Hold on one second.
Do you think that woman I... Did it on purpose?
No, do you think she should get fired for that?
joe rogan
No, why shouldn't she?
todd glass
But what do you think the masses think?
You think in that community...
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
todd glass
People are quick to judge.
joe rogan
They're hypocrites.
She's taking a picture of her body.
So what?
Yeah, she is definitely an accident.
And obviously, she's probably...
I mean, unless she's crazy.
todd glass
She needs love.
joe rogan
Well, we might be wrong.
Okay, we might be assuming it's an accident, and she might just be, like, really a crazy attention person who's like, this is the way I'm going to get attention.
I'm going to send pictures of me jerking off.
That's possible, too.
todd glass
Of course, we limit that, but that's not your idea.
joe rogan
Yeah, but we shouldn't necessarily, I think we should leave all possibilities open because we don't really know her.
todd glass
I mean, we limit it when we're deciding if it's alright or not.
We exclude that.
Okay, excluding that, no.
joe rogan
If her story holds true, then yes, of course she should keep her job.
People are so fucking judgmental and hypocritical.
She's a woman who, I mean, depending upon, of course, her actual performance as a teacher, let's just assume she was a great teacher.
If there's a great teacher who also loves playing with her pussy, what do you give a shit?
The parents that would have a real problem with that, you're completely unrealistic.
todd glass
And if she's playing with her pussy, she's having fun, it means she's going to be nicer to the student.
joe rogan
She's masturbating, so what?
It feels good, it's her pussy, she's off work.
You know, she's not like sitting on a desk.
Today, kids, you're going to watch me jerk off, you know?
She's not doing it in front of them.
todd glass
Go side to side like this.
joe rogan
I like to fucking really beat that thing up.
A lot of people are more gentle, and they like to go with extra figures.
Listen, I'm just telling you.
No one's going to teach you this, but I'm going to teach you it.
Don't tell your parents.
I like to spit in my hands because I feel dirty.
I'm going to just really beat it up side to side.
I pretend it's a speed bang.
unidentified
Just...
todd glass
Kids looking on in horror.
joe rogan
Or writing things down.
todd glass
What do you think?
If you did that, first of all, this is all in real life, which will never happen.
What do you think?
You know enough about therapy.
I bet you can get pretty fucking close to what kids would do.
If you did exactly that in front of a room full of children, at what point would they go?
I may pretend she does it with her pants on, so it's not as gross when we're imagining it.
joe rogan
Well, I wouldn't say pants on.
I would say no panties, a skirt, hikes it up.
todd glass
What do the kids do?
Seriously, not to be funny, but what would...
joe rogan
Freak out.
todd glass
They would freak out, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they'd freak out.
todd glass
They would start to cry, probably, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Cry, girls would scream, you fucking whore.
todd glass
And this is not wrong that I'm even asking, is it?
joe rogan
No, no, not wrong at all.
todd glass
I don't think they'd say you whore.
joe rogan
I think some girls I grew up with would say you whore.
todd glass
Oh, what age were you?
joe rogan
Fourteen?
unidentified
Fourteen.
joe rogan
I'm talking about high school.
todd glass
Oh yeah, they would definitely know.
I don't like that I brought this up.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I think it's important that you brought this up.
todd glass
Once you told me the answer, it made me look crazy.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
todd glass
I didn't know because if...
joe rogan
It's a good question.
It's interesting.
It's weird.
What would you do?
What would you do, you think?
You say that though, but I think there might be a desire to get close to her.
This has happened more than once in high schools.
More than once.
Some young, attractive teacher has had sex with two or more boys from school either on campus locking the door or taking them back to their apartment.
It happens.
It happens all the time.
I wouldn't say all the time, but it happens several times in history.
todd glass
We're hearing about it more and more, too.
joe rogan
There's probably been half a dozen or so, that's being really conservative, examples of this that have made it onto the news.
So we know that people are doing it.
We know that it's not like...
You know, to say that someone sends these naked pictures of themselves, whoopsies!
I don't know what I did.
Like, she could be some crazy freak that wanted to beat off in front of the class, but they didn't want her to.
Wait, did this really happen?
Yes, she really did send it to everybody in our class.
todd glass
Oh, oh, oh, she wanted to do that.
To not do it live, but to, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
No, I'm saying it could have been.
We exclude that.
todd glass
That, obviously.
joe rogan
Yeah, I do not know what her motivation was or if it was actually an accident.
But if it wasn't an accident, it is possible that there's a person out there, not saying it's her, but some person, a person who's willing to fuck every football player in her school and she's a 28-year-old, that's happened before.
If there's a person like that out there, there's also a person that'll just email her pussy out there and go, Whoopsies!
Oh my goodness, did you see my pussy?
Did you like it?
What did you think about my pussy?
I didn't mean to send it to you, but now that you saw my pussy, what did you think?
todd glass
By the way, you basically in life get one freebie.
joe rogan
Yes.
todd glass
And then after that, thank God for keeping records.
joe rogan
I've sent it again?
unidentified
I can't believe I accidentally sent my pussy to everyone again.
todd glass
The first time, your clear record, I think everybody gives you the benefit of the doubt.
And they should.
Because can you imagine?
By the way...
We're only saying the 1% chance that it happened with some crate or 3% because we know 97% she's horrified.
She's a decent person that just got out.
It's like, fuck.
And then there's people that judge you.
We're saying we don't want to be that.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
We definitely don't want to be that.
todd glass
And we'll take a break.
We'll be right back.
Joe Rogan is my guest this afternoon.
We'll ask him what he thinks of the new healthcare program when we come back and get into it.
joe rogan
I like that clarifying your point is very important to you.
todd glass
It's weird.
It is the way.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
It's not weird at all.
It's thoughtful.
I think you're very thoughtful about it.
todd glass
Yeah, I try to like...
Yeah, it seems like I go backwards sometimes.
joe rogan
No, I mean, sometimes you're just thinking about things.
Like, you shouldn't automatically have a very fully formed opinion on certain subjects.
Everybody thinks they're supposed to, and if you don't, you're an idiot.
But there's nothing wrong with not having a fully formed opinion, as long as you're honest about it.
todd glass
I always say the same thing.
I go, yeah, as long as you're careful to say it, like, because...
And I do.
I try to go, look, I'm still taking in stuff, because I think it lessens the anger...
Of people at home that really genuinely might know you're wrong.
I feel like they always tell them, be comforted because if I get an email and it's intelligent and somebody breaks it down, you know what I think?
The first time I read an email that educates me, I go, holy fuck, I want to do an earlier podcast because I want to come back on and go, totally didn't think about that.
So knowing that I will do that always lets me think, okay, I'm comfortable to sometimes speak before I have formulated my opinion.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's important, I think.
And it's important to be honest about what you actually know and what you don't know.
There was one of the funny things about this Midnight in Paris movie was that his wife in the movie was, there was a guy you saw in the clip who's this, like, super intellectual guy who's, like, you know, judging wines and he was a real, you know, annoying dude.
And throughout the film, you saw Woody Allen, like, Woody Allen's character, like, battle with this guy about, like, facts and ideas and deal with his, by bullshitting him.
So, I don't know.
I think it's important to let people know what you actually do know.
And in this movie, it was pathetic.
It was funny, but Woody Allen was always pretending that he had facts that he didn't have.
todd glass
Oh, was that the...
joe rogan
Yeah.
He would argue with this guy about some things that he hadn't researched at all.
It was really funny.
It was funny, because he didn't...
todd glass
You know when you get lost, you're glad you come back, because it's like, what a great...
And that movie's out right now?
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, I watched it on a plane, but it was a 2011 movie, so you could probably get it on, you know, probably get it on Apple TV or something like that.
todd glass
We've all done that.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, especially when you're young.
Bullshit, your brain's out.
brian redban
Somebody posted on the message board that the pollution in Beijing is pretty much identical to the level that Pittsburgh had 60 years ago and posted these photos in Pittsburgh.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Well, that could be fog.
I'm assuming it's not, though.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
That's real?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's 19 what?
brian redban
60 years ago.
joe rogan
What's the guy's name?
brian redban
Vinegar Taster.
joe rogan
Thank you, Vinegar Taster.
brian redban
And put a link to an article.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That was Pittsburgh not long ago.
Whoa, that's nuts.
Oh my god, look at it on a map!
Look at that from the sky!
That's insane!
Oh my God!
When you look at it from the top, like from an airplane, it looks like a big black cloud or a gray cloud over the city.
That's bananas!
todd glass
Not anymore!
brian redban
Bananas!
joe rogan
They cleaned it up all nice and good.
todd glass
Oh, my headphones.
joe rogan
Pittsburgh Engineering.
brian redban
Is that because it's like the steel city and they probably had shitloads of steel factories and stuff like that probably back when they still do, don't they?
joe rogan
I would imagine, yeah.
I would imagine that's a lot of what the pollution is.
todd glass
You know, whenever there's, about in the past, I remember in school, I would ask my teacher, because it's the only way I could visualize, I had no concept of the 1300s, so I would ask her, anytime we talked about an era, if there were stores then.
Because in my head, that's when, like, and I think she, she was always very nice to me, but I think after a while, I stopped asking it, because were there stores then?
joe rogan
I wonder if they even had locks back then.
They must have, right?
Locksmith.
But would they have, when did, okay, let's find out.
When was the invention of the lock?
brian redban
They used to have those keys.
You know when you go to a hotel and they still have the old key and you're just like, really?
You don't have a key card yet?
I'm carrying around this big...
joe rogan
That's always weird, isn't it?
Isn't the place in Austin, don't they give you a key?
brian redban
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
Okay, the history of locks.
I need to know this.
Okay, ready this.
The first serious attempt to improve the security of the lock was made in 1778. The first lock was estimated to be 4,000 years ago.
It was a forerunner to a pin and tumbler type of lock, a common Egyptian lock for the time.
That's insane.
The lock worked using a large wooden bolt to secure a door which had a slot with several holes in its upper surface and the holes were filled with wooden pegs that prevented the bolt from being opened.
So that was the first invention of the lock.
todd glass
Proving people that have been stealing shit for years.
unidentified
There's no year to go back to.
joe rogan
Also, figuring it out.
You need a gang of people working on this kind of stuff in order to get things happening.
If you're going to figure out how to make a wheel or make a car, you need a lot of motherfuckers.
A dude who knows how to make tires, figure out how to make rubber.
You need a dude who understands suspension components.
You need a dude who understands combustion engine.
How do you get that into a car?
We need a transmission guy.
There's a lot of different variables.
unidentified
One person's not going to invent a car.
todd glass
Yeah, it's funny to think about someone...
I don't think about back then the process that goes into it.
Someone invented the wheel because that was the forward thinker of that time.
Where was he writing his stuff down?
What year was that?
joe rogan
When was the invention of the wheel?
todd glass
They couldn't have written then.
By the way, my history is atrocious, so if I ask any questions...
joe rogan
No, it's alright.
You're not pretending to be an expert.
We're just talking.
brian redban
Caveman time is wheel, right?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
That's a good question.
That's what I'm saying.
todd glass
You know, I always picture the worst, for some reason in my head, every listener, even though I know I'm crazy, is this.
No, he's talking about the map!
He knows nothing about the map!
I can't listen to him!
joe rogan
Well, there's images of it as recently or as far back as 2500 BC. That was for what?
For a wheel.
The invention of the wheel.
The earliest well-dated depiction of a wheeled vehicle, the earliest, is 3350 BC. It's a clay pot that has wheels.
todd glass
Wow.
Okay, I'm not even joking when I ask this, even though you would think the answer would be no.
I bet I'd be wrong for thinking that.
The guy who had whatever you got things around before that probably thought the guy with the wheel was crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
Like he didn't see it in his head.
Like now it's hard to imagine someone not understanding a wheel.
joe rogan
Well, that's pretty fucking incredible.
todd glass
What if the old one was a square?
And it's like that guy's like...
joe rogan
It's a star.
Digs into the dirt good.
You get good traction.
todd glass
You need to take a break and then you keep...
joe rogan
That's where the Jewish stock came from.
They drove around there.
unidentified
They put it on a stick and the guy sat down there in the middle and the guy pushed him.
joe rogan
It was great for plowing fields as well.
You could till the soil as you drove.
It was good for agriculture.
They drove around these Stars of Davids.
Until someone say, hey, how about you just make it fucking round, man?
Hey, look at this fucking guy.
He knows everything.
todd glass
How are we going to plow the fields if we have round wheels?
joe rogan
What are you going to do?
Are you going to just drive around like an asshole?
What are you going to do?
Are you going to make roads everywhere?
Is that what you're going to do?
You're not going to do anything that's going to go in the dirt?
Or are you going to make your own road?
How many roads do you think they're going to be?
You know how stupid that is?
You think the world is going to be covered with roads all over the place where you can just drive your stupid fucking car that doesn't even drive over logs.
There's logs everywhere.
How are you going to make roads everywhere?
That's a stupid invention.
That's what they probably said.
Get the fuck out of here with this.
There's going to be roads everywhere.
Get the fuck out of here.
Get on your horse and shut your fucking hole.
This is as good as we got, bro.
todd glass
That's very interesting, man.
unidentified
It's really interesting.
joe rogan
It's really interesting.
brian redban
Did they just take horse paths and just kind of made them wider?
joe rogan
No, they had to fucking, they used tools.
There's a lot of times they used tools.
I mean, you look at some of those old California roads where you're going up the coast, you can tell they carved it out of the wall.
They carved tunnels.
Like in Northern California especially, they carved holes through the buildings.
It's crazy.
Or through the rocks, rather.
todd glass
And we're talking...
joe rogan
A long time ago!
todd glass
Yeah.
joe rogan
They did that shit a long time ago.
They carved paths around mountaintops 200, 300 years ago.
They did it a long-ass time ago.
They did it before there was any cars.
They did it when there was wagons.
They would grade the ground.
They would cut it and smash it down.
Roll it with things.
They pulled things with horses.
They tried to get the ground as soft or as flat and straight as possible, but barely.
And they only did it like, here's where the food is, here's where we go to sleep, and this is where we gotta work.
Let's get this and that and this, and then everybody stayed in that area.
You didn't go anywhere back then.
You didn't get in your fucking horse and buggy and go to Arizona.
We're taking the kids.
We're going to go to California for the weekend.
brian redban
You ever see those bells on the side of the 101?
I don't know if you've ever seen it.
These bells are just hanging on the side of the 101, and you're like, what the fuck is that?
It's like every mile.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Yeah, and it's like I always wondered what it was, and that's the actual original path that they had dug down, and they kept the bells there.
joe rogan
And that was back when it was horse and bogey.
brian redban
Yeah, horse and bogey.
joe rogan
Yeah, they made some roads with horse and buggy.
But, you know, people lived on the coast most of the time.
There were some towns in the middle where somehow or another people got there because of the trains or something along those lines.
But when it was pre-trained, like way, way back 1700s, they came in boats.
todd glass
Let me ask you this then.
So let's say they start this village somewhere.
Was there still a hierarchy of who doesn't do as much work as other people?
joe rogan
Of course.
I'm sure that's always existed.
todd glass
That's crazy to think.
So there'd be a person that would stop and not, maybe they'd get to ride the horse or something.
It'd be like a may pretend job for them.
joe rogan
I think people died off easier that way because people didn't want to breed with them.
And I think it's certainly always been a looked down upon aspect of people's personalities.
But it's also super fucking common.
There's a lot of lazy bitches out there.
There's a lot of people that don't understand how being lazy like that is so bad for you in every way.
You're never going to achieve anything you ever want to.
You're never going to meet your expectations.
You're never going to improve.
You're never going to feel a real sense of accomplishing things.
You're just lazy.
You're never going to put out.
You're never going to really go for it.
And it's there for you to see so that you can see how gross it looks to other people.
So when you meet someone, I think, you know, you meet someone who's troubled, oftentimes it's one of the best things that you can see without having to go through it yourself.
todd glass
If you apply.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you see what makes it feel weird about you.
Like, I don't remember who said this.
I think it was...
Mark Twain, or one of those fucking guys.
He said, a fool learns from the mistakes that he makes.
A wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
unidentified
Yeah.
todd glass
I love those.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Those are great.
todd glass
They're great, because they say so much.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a big one.
And that was one that was...
todd glass
That's a great one.
joe rogan
I think it was Mark Twain.
I mean, who the fuck knows who it was.
It might have been Benjamin Franklin.
todd glass
Somebody great said it.
joe rogan
Some old bad motherfucker who lived a long time ago.
Wrote shit down on some crappy paper.
todd glass
Did you ever even think or would even be something you'd want to think of if somebody said, like, you know, what's a quote?
You know, you can get it to go down.
Or they're doing a wall of quotes and they call you and you get to have one of your quotes up there.
joe rogan
I would never pick it.
Never in a million years.
todd glass
Oh, that's right.
You can't pick it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you would never.
It's like giving yourself a nickname.
It's Todd Glass, the comedy medicine man.
Hey, I got Indian feathers on it.
I go, hey, I'm here to do a shaman ceremony.
I'm the comedy medicine man.
You can't nickname yourself.
todd glass
I was jealous of those guys too.
Oh, Dr. Something.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck.
todd glass
What could my thing be?
unidentified
Jesus.
todd glass
That's why it bothers me when there's somebody in the business.
You know what?
Maybe you...
joe rogan
We can't pick your own quotes and you can't.
I want to say this one thing though.
I put this on my Twitter and some people still keep retweeting it.
There's a thing that somebody attributed to me that was not my quote at all.
It was a quote by Greg Giraldo.
And I tried to tell people, like, when it happened, I tweeted it, but there's like a picture of me, and it says, this homeless guy asked me for money the other day, and I was about to give it to him, and I thought, he's not going to use it on drugs, he's just going to use it on drugs and alcohol, why should I give it to him?
Then I realized, that's what I'm going to use it on, why am I judging this poor bastard?
It's actually Greg Girald, though.
Somebody must have gotten him confused with me and attributed that quote to me.
But that's not my quote.
He was a really, really fucking funny guy, too.
Greg Giraldo was a good dude, too.
I knew him way back in the 1990s.
He was out here doing his own TV show right next door while I was doing news radio.
So, you know, we were super friendly.
He was a really nice guy.
Really, really fucking smart guy, too.
todd glass
That's a great joke, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fine.
Well, you know, that's his style.
It even sounds like a Geraldo joke.
todd glass
I didn't know him well, but it almost says more about that type of comedian and the good part about comedy, because I love comedians.
joe rogan
Yeah, me too.
unidentified
I love comedians and love comedians, too.
todd glass
I appreciate that because it is something I really try to be aware of how lucky I am to be.
Even though I'll complain about some of the ones that I don't like, it's never new comedians that I complain about.
It's just really old, bad comedians that do have no desire to change.
joe rogan
That's my number one problem.
todd glass
It's not a new guy that might change.
I don't judge a new guy that acts like another comedian because you know what?
He might grow out of it.
I've seen comedians that emulate other comedians, and then you look at them two years later, you go, oh, they came into their own.
I don't judge in the beginning.
I just root for it all, and I'm positive.
joe rogan
Very similar to musicians who do that.
todd glass
Really?
Yeah.
So anyway, when I talk about that, the guy that's doing it for like that, but this all started positive.
But overall, I love comedians and it's a great fraternity to be a part of.
And most of them are pretty decent and pretty soft and pretty cool and pretty honest.
You know, you hang out, you feel good around them.
joe rogan
I love Dom Herrera.
And one of the things I love about Dom Herrera is Dom Herrera is always working on his act.
Always.
He truly loves comedy.
It's not just what he does for a living.
He truly loves doing comedy and he works on it all the time.
He hasn't ever hit the give up switch.
Some guys just hit that give up switch.
And then they start complaining.
And you're around them.
They're complaining about the business.
The business keeps screwing guys like me.
And you're like, dude, I haven't heard your set in forever.
I haven't seen a special out of you in forever.
I haven't seen a website that's out.
I haven't seen blogs you've written.
I haven't seen a podcast you've done.
I haven't seen a fucking Letterman appearance.
I haven't seen anything from you.
You stopped doing comedy.
And now you're whining.
Like, shut the fuck up.
Just go and do it.
They're a drag, man.
They're a fucking drag.
todd glass
There's such a big difference from complaining, because I know someone taking this out of context, including me, going, I love complaining about clubs that don't get it or when they don't set it up right.
But that's not my majority.
I also spend a shit ton of time talking about good and positive things.
But the other guys, well, after a while, it's hard to be around them, because you're like...
You have to do a lot of head nodding.
And you think at one point, don't they realize I'm not agreeing?
Because I get to the point where I can't agree.
I'll feel too gross.
joe rogan
Some ear beating.
You're taking an ear beating.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They just beat you down.
What are you going to do?
todd glass
You just give them a little bit of that and they accept that.
joe rogan
Oh, those guys are brutal.
There was a guy that I was friends with that I had to stop.
It was back in the day.
I was friends with him for a long time.
I met him in the 90s.
And he did not do well.
He moved out to Los Angeles.
And he's a real insecure guy.
I had real problems with trying to go on auditions.
He was trying to be a comedic actor.
I liked the guy.
I enjoyed him.
There was a percentage of the time that I loved being around him.
I loved it.
When we were laughing and joking and talking about things, I loved being around him.
But then there was another part that maybe was only 10-20% of the time.
It was unbearable.
It was torture.
And I tried to let him know.
I tried to say, look, man...
You know, I appreciate that you're struggling.
I appreciate you're out here in California and, you know, it's hard to make things happen, but here's what you got, man.
You're a talented guy.
You're a talented guy.
You're a funny guy.
Just keep doing it and you'll figure out what it is.
You'll find a manager.
You'll do an audition.
You'll make a set that goes on.
You're going to find it.
The most important thing is that you're enjoying yourself and you're out here, you know, doing what you love to do for a living.
That shit never flew with him.
Why is this fucking guy?
This fucking guy's on TV? How come this fucking guy got a development deal?
You know what, man?
I'm turning the TV, I'm seeing this fucking guy with a show, and I'm like, maybe this is not the business for me.
Maybe I'm in the wrong business.
I saw that fucking guy set, and this fucking guy was terrible.
Let me tell you something.
I mean, he was like open mic night, terrible.
todd glass
Can I tell you what I told someone?
By the way, they're not that case yet.
As a matter of fact, half my life is being afraid of saying any names.
joe rogan
Don't say it.
todd glass
This isn't even a bad thing.
This is actually giving this person credit.
unidentified
Right.
todd glass
That they were aware of it, but it has to do with what you're talking about, complaining, but not that bad yet.
But it could be going down that path and maybe I want to help a little.
And I said, let me ask you a question.
If some celebrity offered you, I didn't know what figure to make up, I'd go $10,000 a month, right now.
$10,000 a week.
Exactly.
To write funny tweets.
You know, it's a weird pretend thing, but I go, they call you on the phone, he goes, listen, I want to start tweeting more, and you know my voice, you'll give them to me at the end of each day, I'll pick a few I like, and I'll It's a good paycheck, but it's okay.
I'll give you $10,000 a week, whatever it would.
Would you be able to do that?
unidentified
Me?
todd glass
No, no.
I asked him.
Would you, you think?
joe rogan
No, but go ahead.
todd glass
I asked him, and I know he could.
He goes, yeah.
And I went, well, then write some for yourself.
unidentified
Wow.
todd glass
Like, you at least should be tweeting funny tweets.
Now me, could I do it?
No, but I don't want to get a job as a writer.
I don't think that's my strong point.
This person is.
joe rogan
Right.
todd glass
So, like, you know, write some funny tweets.
Like, take advantage of what there is.
joe rogan
Well, if you just have a couple thousand followers, okay?
Let's say if you're a comedian, you're struggling, you got a thousand followers.
Let's say a thousand.
I guarantee you, out of those thousand people, if you say something that's truly funny, they're going to hit that retweet button.
And it might be a slow trickle, where it'll be like, a few other people will get it, and then a few other people will get it, and a few people will steal it, and they'll just fucking copy it and throw it.
That's a real common thing with non-known funny people with tweets.
But then...
People get found because of that.
Our friend Kathleen up in Toronto, Slashleen on Twitter, we hung out with her in Toronto.
She's just a Twitter comedian, and she wanted to do stand-up, but she never really did it.
Me and Doug Benson, and who the fuck else was with us up there?
I think it was Callan.
Hmm.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
It was in Toronto.
I don't remember.
Was it Ari?
Whatever.
It might have been Ari.
Whatever it was.
She's really funny, and now she's got a development deal.
She's doing a show on MTV, right?
All from Twitter.
todd glass
And we know people.
joe rogan
You're supposed to say that?
You're not supposed to say anything?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is it supposed to be incognito?
brian redban
Yeah.
todd glass
Whoops.
joe rogan
I didn't know, man.
You can't tell me shit like that.
It's supposed to be a secret.
brian redban
I don't know.
todd glass
Whatever it is.
joe rogan
My point is she's got like 50,000 Twitter followers or something.
She's hilarious.
todd glass
Yeah.
And again, it's not me saying that about myself because I tweet and I like it.
It's not my strong suit.
But this person, if you're claiming you're a writer, anybody out there that says they're a writer should ask themselves the same question.
Like, yeah, fucking, you're right.
It doesn't mean you have three million overnight, but you will see your numbers grow.
And obviously, like I just said, we see a lot of these people.
So it's just applying what certain people do to your friends that don't realize you could do it.
joe rogan
Here's what she said.
Here's her latest tweet.
Her name on Twitter is Princess Anus.
And she writes, Turn down the little heater under my desk at work, crunching numbers and cooking pussy.
And she's showing her pussy, like her pants, looking down at the heater.
It's right underneath her.
She lives in Toronto.
It's cold as fuck.
Pull the picture up, Brian.
It's hilarious.
It's slash lean on Twitter.
todd glass
How did you find out about this girl?
joe rogan
Somebody tweeted her.
She's got 71,000 followers now.
And she's not like a famous person.
Look at that.
unidentified
She shows a picture of her pussy above the heater.
joe rogan
She's just a funny girl.
She says a lot of funny shit.
todd glass
Yeah, it proves that it works.
Chris Carmona, he writes a lot of funny tweets and people, you know, you just start noticing it after a while.
Someone forwards it to you.
joe rogan
She had a great joke about blowing a guy who, like, blowing so many drunks that she didn't pass her breath detector test because she sucked a drunk guy's dick.
It was really funny, man.
todd glass
I love it when somebody like that...
I've said this a million times, but I don't mind getting jealous when people have early success.
We have to remember the people that aren't doing it anymore.
But I also try to turn the jealousy into motivation as opposed to bitterness.
Just try to get, okay, that's cool.
You get a little jealous and then think, what could I be fucking doing?
joe rogan
She says here, no matter what the letters are, all knuckle tattoos say, Dad's gone.
unidentified
That's so rude.
joe rogan
I just accidentally stubbed my face on a dick.
A true friend will tell you when your yoga pants are sucking your pussy lips up like a three-toed sloth.
It's a funny fucking Twitter page, and she does it all the time.
If you look at it, every couple of days, she bangs out a good one.
So her numbers, she'll take a couple of days off or something, but the numbers that she puts, whatever she puts out there, is really high quality.
She doesn't have a lot of stupid tweets.
Mine is a lot of useless tweets.
I mean, some of them are funny.
todd glass
You tweet every day?
joe rogan
Pretty much, yeah.
I mean, I'll take days off, but if I find things that are interesting...
I think it's my duty, almost, to retweet things that I think are interesting.
If you have 1.5 million followers and someone comes along and shows you something that you think other people would be interested in, it's almost your duty to send it out.
Like, hey, check this out.
They're your friends.
That's what I would do with you.
todd glass
That's a great way to look at it.
joe rogan
If you had an interest, like modeling, whatever, clays, fucking making...
Sculpture, whatever the fuck it would be.
Sailboating.
And I said, oh, Todd likes sailboating.
This is a cool article on sailboating.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
I would send it to you.
If you were into science, boom, I would send it to you.
That's what you're doing on Twitter.
Like someone sends you something that makes, you know, you go, whoa.
So you're sending it to all your friends.
You know, all those people on Twitter that are your followers.
It's ironic that they're your followers.
You know, they follow you.
You really should probably call them Twitter friends.
That'd be a nicer way to put it.
todd glass
Yeah, it might be a little warmer.
joe rogan
It's really what it is.
todd glass
Why are they following me?
joe rogan
Fuck you, Father Time, and you're not my real dad.
todd glass
I think I'm going to hire someone to write funny tweets for me.
joe rogan
Why not?
Fuck it.
todd glass
Anybody?
Can I tell you, when they correct me on spelling, I want to have a goddamn...
I want to find the person, and I don't want to do what I want to do because I have to calm down before I start doing what I... I want to talk to them at the end of the day, but I want to go, what is wrong with you?
Seriously, who are you?
That's when I want to look at someone and go, who are you?
You read that.
I'm not going to yell at you.
I'm just going to...
When you read it and you saw there was a spelling mistake, it's really that you were motivated to fix.
Who are you?
Are you?
Seriously, like, it sounds silly, I get it, but then there's also like, yeah, who are they?
What do you do to everyone else in your life if that's what you, the first thing, like, I'm trying to be funny, I'm a comedian, I'm not a good speller, but your goal, I get it.
joe rogan
Those people are angry.
They're angry, Todd Glass.
Life is not what they wanted it to be.
todd glass
Well, let's say they said this.
We're trying to help.
I still go, alright, now you're just making yourself the victim.
joe rogan
There's a lot of that.
You know what there is?
There's paths.
There's ways you manage your life and there's paths you go down.
And if you go down that, I'm a victim path by instinct, by automatic, reflexively.
A lot of people do.
God damn, those people are annoying.
Those people are so fucking annoying.
That's a real problem.
todd glass
I tend to agree with you on most of the things you say.
You know, I'm always in pretty the same area.
Sometimes you say it in a better way than I say, so it still helps to listen to it, because it helps me fight the fight.
So I think preaching to the choir is good.
I don't think it's a waste of time.
joe rogan
We're doing a fingers-up move, preaching to the folks listening to this.
todd glass
I think sometimes it's good to hear it, because, like I say, it hit it from another perspective.
I'll drop an analogy I use.
If someone gives me a better one, I'm like, oh, that's better.
Mine's gone.
I love that one.
joe rogan
I think we naturally, we were talking about cults earlier and people arguing over ideologies, I think we naturally form tribes.
I think some tribes are formed just based on behavior and belief systems and geography and we get these weird things and it's very dangerous.
todd glass
You might think, I swear to you, I think this genuinely has to do with what we're talking about.
I'm not trying to do a cheap segue.
If I am, you'll know from my gut I didn't think I was.
joe rogan
I believe you 100%.
todd glass
The only thing I wrote down I wanted to talk to you about was, it's not here anymore, was the, when people, you said they will, you said they will form tribes.
People will decide.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
So, okay, here we go.
So podcasting is basically taking radio and making it as, you know, just getting rid of the middle management.
It's just, it's like, it's pure stand-up.
So that's what it is.
It's getting rid of that person.
So there's this thing that happened by, I think if you're right, that people will naturally create their own rules.
So we got rid of the person, now you just do what you want.
And then there became this thing with, you only do an hour podcast.
By people that did podcasts, they decided that.
And I felt a little bit of that.
No, should I really do it?
And then you...
This is why I'm thanking you.
Someone goes, oh no, Joe Rogan, he does a three-hour podcast.
I'm like, thank fucking God!
Because it was like, yeah, I want to do three hours!
Leave me to...
But that whole rule was made by, here's this great institution.
Get rid of all the business.
Radio, it's a great tool.
Get rid of all the business.
Get rid of anyone telling you what to do.
It's just us now.
And someone decided to go, yeah, you only do it as an hour.
joe rogan
Here's one thing I want to put out there, too.
This is really important.
You don't have to do commercials in the middle of your fucking podcast.
You don't.
I don't do it.
I won't do it.
I never will do it.
I'm not interrupting the fucking show.
Because it's brutal.
It's brutal.
It fucks with the conversation.
It puts a hitch in the conversation unless you weave them in yourself afterwards in post.
But if you interrupt the conversation and start reading off a page, we're starting from scratch again.
todd glass
We've certainly heard good people that had to do it when they had radio do it, and it's not the best part of it, but we still love them.
joe rogan
They don't have to do it anymore.
todd glass
But now you don't have to do that.
So I totally, yeah.
joe rogan
And one of the reasons you don't have to do it is because if you're selling things that you actually believe in, we have a series of different products that we agree to, but we've turned down a lot of products.
I'm like, I have no use for that.
I wouldn't use that in real life.
I don't agree with it.
I don't like what it is.
I've turned down podcast sponsorships to promote things that I don't believe in, movies that I don't believe in, shows that I don't believe in.
Once you make that sort of an agreement, people will support the things that support your show automatically.
They would want to, if it really is a good product.
Who's that?
That's me, goddammit.
See that?
You know what that is, bitches?
What this is, is a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 that I'm super happy with.
Oh my goodness.
How do I reject it?
brian redban
Nice ringtone.
joe rogan
Reject a call with a message.
Okay.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Sorry I'm busy.
Call back later.
I just sent a message.
todd glass
You know what I always think of when I'm having conversations like this?
joe rogan
It's a beautiful sound.
Look at the size of this thing, folks, at home.
I'm 100% Android now.
Fully converted, and not just fully converted, committed.
Love it.
brian redban
It's amazing.
todd glass
It's great.
Is it okay in your pocket?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, it fits in my back pocket.
I had his contact.
It's a Google phone, unfortunately, so you have your phone contacts, get confused with Google.
That was the only issue I've had at all was just merely transferring my contacts.
That's it.
Everything else has been great.
The screen on this thing is amazing.
todd glass
There's two things I'm...
joe rogan
I figured that out.
There's a program...
Sorry.
todd glass
Sorry.
joe rogan
There's a program called...
Smooth sync for iCloud.
It pulls it right over.
It's easy.
It takes three seconds.
I'm super happy with this.
The camera's a little weird.
todd glass
What if we got off the air and you go, it's a piece of shit, they're our new sponsor.
joe rogan
There's just so much stuff you can do with these things that an iPhone would never let you do.
There's so much weird shit that you can get done with these things.
brian redban
Is that thing too big, though, to carry around in your pants?
joe rogan
No!
You know what's not big?
It's just a matter of getting used to it.
Look, I have a magazine that I choose on my own.
I choose all the content and scroll through it every day, and it gives me stories based on interesting shit.
It comes standard with the phone.
It's so easy to cut and paste images and put them in a scrapbook, cut and paste URLs, save websites.
You save documents on it.
You can actually download and save things, which the iPhone never lets you do.
You're not allowed to download things on the iPhone.
Just put them in a file.
On this, you can put things in files.
When you want to play music, you just grab the music and drag it in there.
It takes three seconds.
You don't have to Load iTunes or anything weird like that.
It gives you way more freedom.
In a lot of ways that's bad, and for some people it's probably not what they want.
They want something that just works.
But if you're a person like me that's really into technology and finds it fascinating to fuck around with new things, you can't beat that screen, son.
That's gigantic.
When you go and read websites on this, it's almost like a laptop.
brian redban
Why wouldn't you get just a little iPad?
joe rogan
Why would I want it when I have this?
brian redban
Yeah, but it just seems super big.
It seems ridiculous to carry it out.
joe rogan
Dude, it gets so easy to use.
It's easy.
It fits right in my pocket.
It seems bigger than it really is.
I mean, it's big to the point where it's not like...
unidentified
I'm sitting on my fucking shirt here.
joe rogan
It's big to the point where, like, if you had it in your pocket, you wouldn't want to sit down.
You wouldn't want to sit down like this with it in my back pocket.
But if I'm just, like, walking around, it fits fine.
This is, you know...
brian redban
It's huge, yeah.
joe rogan
It is huge, but it fits.
The difference being, to me, first of all, it's fascinating.
I like fucking around with the new operating system.
I like playing with it.
Everything seems to work real easy.
The processors, the fucking pictures are incredible.
The pictures this thing takes, they're magical.
I mean, it's just, I don't know, what is it, a 12 megapixel or something?
todd glass
By the way, I still think it is hilariously funny, because I know it just gracefully happened.
But we're talking about, I would never do it in sponsor.
And then I know you're feeling like...
joe rogan
Oh, that's not a sponsor.
todd glass
No, no, that's what I mean.
joe rogan
This phone doesn't sponsor me.
todd glass
No, that's what I mean.
Sometimes in life, I'll say something.
I will be so passionate about something, like you are, and I go, there's no way if they filmed that, they could ever play that, because there's no fucking way anybody would believe that was real.
But it is.
I'm like, there's some product I'm talking about, and I go off on how good it is, how could nobody have it, and then I think...
There's no way someone would believe that, but that's how passionate I am.
joe rogan
But I believe you, because I know that you wouldn't do that.
But there's some people that you know would, where some people you know would sneak in a commercial and pretend that they really love their Galaxy Note phone, and it's really just a commercial.
That's just you being a silly person.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the idea of commercials interrupting things is unnecessary, and it's not just unnecessary.
It's not good for the product.
It's not good for the experience.
Just get good sponsors.
Play it in the beginning.
Play it at the end.
Say thank you to your sponsors.
Let everybody know those are your sponsors.
We've had a lot of really loyal sponsors like Ting and Squarespace.
It's because we'll mention them even when we're not doing a commercial.
I really believe in Squarespace.
It might be one of the ads for this show, but they're fucking great.
It's a beautiful design.
It's a great way to make websites.
If I find something cool, I would let you know, even if it's not Paying me money to let you know.
todd glass
You know how we always guess what we would do, what we wouldn't do?
And I know it's always a hypothetical when you turn down, because you can act morally on your high ground when you turn down something that wasn't offered to you, but we do it all the time.
We all may pretend as comedians.
Would you do this?
Would you do that?
joe rogan
I wouldn't do Batman.
I wouldn't do a fucking mainstream comic book movie.
todd glass
And you don't know until those things are put ahead of you, until those things are put in front of you.
Exactly.
Now granted, I'm not saying I turned down some shit ton of money, but at least it was an example when I did stick to my instincts of don't do something bad.
I learned the copy for this phone thing, and then I remember the next day waking up and going, look, again, You know how much I would have made.
It's a new sponsor.
We see the check for $50, maybe.
I don't know what we get.
But I didn't understand.
It was one of those ones that I hate.
I go, you can't.
So I was afraid that they were going to be like, oh, no, you have to do it.
I called back Katie at the time.
And I went, Katie, I don't even fucking understand this.
And it's like, I don't want to.
She goes, oh, you don't have to do it.
I was like, oh, cool.
joe rogan
It's your thing.
todd glass
Yeah, I didn't know if there was some come on.
They're supporting us now.
But they were like, no, no, no, no, no.
So that really made me happy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's nice and you can also, people will gravitate.
Like there's been a few people that we've talked about their products on the show where they've never been sponsored.
But people know about it because of us.
And I just want people to know about that.
Like that Green Mountain Grill guy that has those pellet grills.
brian redban
Great grills.
joe rogan
He doesn't pay us.
He gave us these grills, and he's like, look, I just think these things are amazing, and I would love to sponsor the podcast.
It didn't work out.
He doesn't sponsor the podcast.
But they're so cool, I've got to tell people about them.
I would always tell people about them, whether it was a sponsor or not.
You could cook something, one of these fucking things, for hours at a time.
They use pellets, like hardwood pellets.
They're called pellet grills.
It's like a new thing.
The temperature stays exact.
So, like, if you want to cook a roast outside, like, smoky hardwood, and cook it for, like, 300 degrees for, like, four hours or something like that, you do that.
You just set it.
It's amazing.
todd glass
I didn't know that there were pellet grills, because my parents live in an old home in Philadelphia, and they had a pellet stove in the living room.
And they would come in bags, and they're, like, wooden, and they're very natural.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
It's just compressed hardwood.
Natural sugars in the wood.
todd glass
It looks like rabbit food a little bit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it does.
It looks like that kind of cat litter I use, too.
todd glass
Yeah, the green stuff.
joe rogan
Do you use that stuff, that pine stuff?
It's the best stuff.
It kills the smell the best.
todd glass
How many cats do you have?
joe rogan
Two.
todd glass
Two?
What are they?
joe rogan
Just cats.
One of them is a ragdoll cat.
You know what those are?
They go limp when you pick them up.
They're like real sweet.
todd glass
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, and the other one is, she's a mutt.
She's part Persian and part tomcat.
She's like 16 years old.
She's 16 years old.
She looks like she's a kitten.
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's totally healthy.
So when you come home, she talks to you.
My whole house thinks it's hilarious.
Just have conversations with this cat.
What?
Sometimes it's annoying.
I'm not going to lie.
But, you know, she's a cool cat.
todd glass
Cool cat.
She's just needy.
My friend Andrea has a cat, and it's crazy.
Not only does it, which I've seen a lot when you go into someone's house, I like if a cat jumps up on the sofa next to me.
So it eats potato chips, whatever you're eating it wants to eat, and it fetches.
So I'm like, are you shitting me?
joe rogan
I used to have a cat that fetches.
todd glass
See, to me, if you're home alone and you have a dog or cat, anything, It is a bonus when your cat fetches.
And the potato chips, because maybe you're home by yourself and you're just sitting there.
The fact that this other thing wants something and you give it one and it eats it.
You don't give it too much of it.
joe rogan
This cat hated everybody but me though.
It was great because it fetched balls.
They'd take a little ball of paper and crumple it up in a ball and I would toss it and it would chase after and swat it and then it would bring it back to me and then I would throw it again.
We would play games.
But she hated everybody but me.
She hissed at me when I saw her in the pet store.
Like all the other kittens were in this little pet store and she just like hissed at me.
I was like, oh, give me that one.
brian redban
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like she's crazy.
todd glass
Well, that's the one that needs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
That's the one that needs.
joe rogan
Well, not just that.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I've always been akin to the wilder creatures.
todd glass
You don't have a dog?
joe rogan
I have two dogs.
todd glass
What type of dogs do you have?
joe rogan
Shibu Inu, English Bulldog mix, and a Mastiff.
todd glass
Oh, you have a Mastiff?
joe rogan
That's cool.
todd glass
The other one, I'm not sure what it is, but a Mastiff, I know what they are.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a small Mastiff.
He's 140 pounds.
So it's called a Regency Mastiff.
It's a half-Neapolitan Mastiff, and they breed them with pit bulls to make this dog a really athletic Mastiff.
But they're big.
It's a big, like 140-pound dog, but it moves like a panther.
It's crazy how fast these things are and how powerful they are.
But super sweet.
Like the sweetest dog.
I got him for his personality.
His dad was on Fear Factor, and I couldn't believe how sweet the dog was.
We would use him as an attack dog.
We'd put people in these suits and he would send them out to attack, but to the dog it was just a game.
Like, he wasn't mean to people at all.
But when the owner told him what to do, that was the game, was to go do it.
And then he got rewarded for that.
So we put these people in these giant attack suits.
And this dog just grabbed them and BOOM! Threw them to the ground, but was never mean.
Like, when it was over, when you go, okay, out.
He stops, he backs up.
And I go, how is this dog so cool?
And he goes, I don't let the assholes breed.
He goes, I make sure that all my dogs, they never have any dog aggression.
They never have any people aggression.
So this dog was just chilling with all these other dogs.
He looks like a lion, like this black lion.
And it's just sitting there.
tj kirk
He was even bigger.
joe rogan
He was 190 pounds.
His father was very big.
But he's just sitting there.
And I'm like, why is that dog so nice?
Like, this doesn't even make sense.
Everybody would come by.
He would, like, look at you.
That's why...
todd glass
That's why I remember my mom bred dogs when we were growing up.
Not like a puppy mill or anything.
And she said that when dogs bite out of fear, they're not going to bite when something really happens anyway.
The minute somebody takes a shovel and lifts it up in the air, or their hand, those dogs cower.
So the dogs that are trained from like, same thing, like what you're saying, my friend's a cop.
To see the dog, how calm it is.
I know what that dog's capable of.
And then it's so...
joe rogan
They're super confident.
todd glass
It doesn't bite out of fear.
joe rogan
Exactly.
todd glass
It doesn't bite out of fear.
joe rogan
That's the thing about these Mastiffs.
It's one of the reasons why they're such great dogs.
Because they're really relaxed and calm around people.
They're not worried about you.
What are you going to do?
Unless you have a gun, what are you going to do to a 190-pound Mastiff?
Not a lot, man.
This isn't going to take long.
They listen to us out of love.
And when you have a dog that you raise from a puppy and really love...
This guy, his name's Joe, and he doesn't have a puppy mill at all.
He has the opposite.
They're called Regency Mastiffs.
And it's a breed that he created himself that he's been working on for decades.
And so he's like super specific about what dogs he lets breed.
And at the end of the day, he has this amazing companion.
Like this Johnny, Johnny Cash is my dog.
He's the sweetest dog I've ever had in my life.
I mean, he's just a gentle, big giant who's just, he loves everybody.
He loves my three-year-old.
He loves my five-year-old.
He loves other kids.
Other kids come over.
He's immediately like happy.
He doesn't get weird around them.
He's like super, any friend that comes over, you've met Johnny.
He's super friendly, right?
Like immediately.
You don't feel sketched out by him at all, right?
brian redban
Right.
No, I love your dogs.
Both of them.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Boo-Boo's very sweet, too.
They're both sweet dogs.
todd glass
You know, one time, I was about five years ago watching a friend's dog, and I saw one day in the street what the dog did to him.
Like, he went.
I've never seen him like that.
That type of aggression towards another dog.
unidentified
Yeah, that's scary.
todd glass
Nothing happened.
I had him on his leash, but I was like, I never saw it.
And I remember thinking, it was the type of dog that when I had him, I would bite his face and just love him and bite him.
And I thought, I'd be afraid to do that now.
But guess what?
By that night...
I did.
I was like, because he was so like, I go, that's a different.
And I'm a chicken.
I'm a chicken.
But I just, I get it when people are comfortable around animals because they'll sense it.
Because I don't know why.
I just thought, no, he's that way with that dog.
So I'm like going back to biting him.
joe rogan
Well, he's also probably protecting you.
He doesn't trust that dog.
He doesn't know why that dog's near him.
That dog is violating his territory by being a stranger and near him like instinctively.
So unless he's socialized, unless you take them around other dogs all the time, it's a natural instinct to want to ward off other dogs.
That's why raising a dog, you could raise a dog that's really sweet with people, which my dogs were, but then have real problems with other dogs, especially if it's genetic, like pit bulls or something along those lines.
I've seen it.
There's no way you can avoid it.
You can't avoid it.
The only thing you can do is socialize those dogs and bring them around a lot of other dogs and constantly reprimand them or stop them from attacking and keep them exercised.
You gotta wear them out.
Throw the ball with them, have them play, and only make it a positive experience when they meet other dogs.
But still, you could run into some other dog to test them, and the next thing you know, they're going at it.
But they don't have that to you, though.
All my dogs that I've ever had, whether they had problems with other dogs or not, They've all been sweet to people.
All of them.
They just can't wait to jump up and kiss people because that's all they get.
All they get is sweetness.
At home, you know, they get, hey, don't eat that.
Hey, don't chew that.
No, bad.
But they don't get beat up.
They don't get yelled at.
They get kissed and hugged, you know.
And when you have an animal like that, you know.
todd glass
You were saying, you know, when they get around other animals that they haven't seen.
That's why a long time ago I made this rule, like, It would be like a bunch of us renting maybe a house up in Arrowhead or something where people go, hey, can we bring the dog?
I would trust them.
They would go, oh, he's so calm, he's so calm.
But then someone else would ask, and if there were two dogs, they weren't, and they would all apologize all weekend.
They're not normally like that.
I know, but they are here.
You're bringing them around.
joe rogan
And they're fighting.
todd glass
Even if their dogs come at home, sometimes it cannot be come at another place because it's not comfortable and there's noises.
So I'm not mad at the dog, but I'm like, There's always exceptions.
I get it.
But overall, my feeling is there are exceptions, but overall, leave your dog at home.
joe rogan
I totally agree.
I've brought my dog places, and it's selfish.
It's selfish.
I was selfish when I did it, and people who do it, they don't think they're being selfish, but you could do it.
Like, if it's one of my friend's dogs, and I love the dog, and I've been around the dog a lot, and I don't mind, that's one thing.
But a lot of times, the dog dominates your thinking.
Now, where's the dog?
Is the dog in the kitchen?
Where's the dog?
The dog in my bathroom?
Hey, why is your dog in my bathroom, man?
todd glass
When we went camping, not even from...
I wasn't crazy that these people...
By the way, you know why I always say there's always exceptions?
Because I live a very...
Maybe it's not a paranoid life.
But I've had dogs where people bring them and I'm happy they brought their dogs.
joe rogan
Yes, of course.
todd glass
I even ask.
I go, no, bring your dog, bring your dog.
But overall, you've got to test the waters a little.
You know what I mean?
I don't want anybody that I would think that would listen and I'd be like, no, no, your dog I really did like.
I'm not just making exceptions.
But overall, leave your dog at home.
joe rogan
Yeah, overall.
Unless you have an understanding.
todd glass
Right.
joe rogan
Or unless your dogs like each other.
Like I had my friend Robbie, when I first got my dog, he had a dog that was a boxer.
And him and my dog were like, they would get together and they're both basically the same age.
I think his dogs are a little bit older.
And they would just go fucking nutty.
Just run around in circles and bounce up in the air.
When they saw each other, they were so excited.
Because they were pals.
Like they had decided like really early on.
They play fought and stuff like that, but they were buddies.
So when they were around each other, they're like, holy shit, I can't believe you're here!
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
And they would just start bouncing and jumping.
And it was fun.
But we had to watch them.
We had to watch them every five seconds.
todd glass
You forget about those two type of dogs.
Because you're right.
On the most part, you're lucky if they just don't care about each other.
But when they get along, it is like two...
I remember growing up, we had our friend's parents who would bring their dog over.
And you could just tell they were just in the yard and getting along.
Look at them.
They're friends.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's cool when dogs are buddies.
And dogs are pack animals, too.
That's the other thing.
Dogs want to be around other dogs.
They love being around people, but they also love being around dogs.
To leave a dog by itself all the time, it's kind of sad.
It gets lonely.
Hmm.
Yeah, you're a dog.
Selfish bitch.
Poor little dog.
brian redban
No, I'm pretty good except for Mondays, of course.
todd glass
How long?
joe rogan
You gotta do what you gotta do.
todd glass
Do you ever have somebody that'll go...
Like, how long can you...
unidentified
Dog sitter.
todd glass
What do you think the reasonable amount of time on five days a week to leave your dog at home alone is?
brian redban
Ooh.
joe rogan
Well, inside the house...
unidentified
Five days a week.
joe rogan
Inside the house is tough.
todd glass
Just so we can, let's say, doggy door to a yard.
Oh wait, that widens it a lot.
joe rogan
That makes a big difference.
todd glass
The person I'm thinking of, no doggy door.
brian redban
My dog's potty trained on pee pads.
joe rogan
It sounds good on paper.
What it is is these paper towels with shit on them in your house.
It's fucking disgusting.
This potty trained, he only shits all over the place there.
It's gross.
It's beyond gross.
brian redban
Well, the worst is, like, my old dog used to just, when I had carpet, would piss, and you would never know about it.
And then, so when we tore up the carpet, it was just like, oh my god, how much piss did this dog actually do?
joe rogan
That actually might have been your cat.
todd glass
He shits all over the place over there.
joe rogan
I bet your dog pissed, too, but your cat pissed a lot.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah, they'll piss, especially if the cat is upset that you live with a dog now.
Like, you brought a dog into the cat's house, and the cat just said, bitch, I'm going to piss everywhere.
You're not even here, you motherfucker.
I'm going to treat this thing like I would treat it.
They totally decide that it's theirs.
I haven't seen that guy in 10 hours.
I'm just going to piss.
What would I do in the wild?
I'll just piss right here.
So that's what they start doing.
The litter box stinks.
He doesn't clean it.
I'll just piss behind the couch.
Piss over here.
Under the refrigerator.
Hey, they want to be treated right.
My cats don't piss in the house.
You know when my cat was pissing in the house?
When I would change the litter box like every couple days.
I would change it like every three or four days.
And she would pee in front of the door sometimes.
The old one.
You can't yell at her.
She's 16. But I'm like, what are you stupid bitch?
Like, what are you doing?
They're pissing in my house.
And then I realized, you know what?
She only does that if the litter box is kind of funky.
So now that I clean it every single day, she never does that.
Stopped.
You know, they don't want to do that.
You just dirty bitch.
You had a fucking big box of shit she was supposed to step in.
todd glass
You know what I was thinking?
Let's say you had a cat and you had like, well, you know what?
What I'm about to say, probably we could afford it.
Let's say it was $3,500.
A hard plumbed cat box.
unidentified
Hard-plumbed?
todd glass
Meaning, that's what they call it, like, if you have, like, some people, like, take their trailer and they put it next to their home, and sometimes they use it as a guest house, so they, I heard a plumber once go, you hard-plumb it, which means you hook it up to the regular sewage, right?
unidentified
Right.
todd glass
So if you had a hard, like a toilet, but it's a cat box, wouldn't that be great in New York?
That's very possible.
unidentified
Totally.
todd glass
It's like a little toilet, maybe there's some sort of litter, that way you never have to change your cat box, you just flush it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it doesn't seem like the cat would be down with that.
They want to shit in dirt.
todd glass
What if you put dirt in there?
joe rogan
Yeah, there are cats that can do that.
But doesn't she have one of those big crazy Sphinx cats or something?
brian redban
No, she has the skinless cats.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I mean.
It's a Sphinx cat.
brian redban
Is it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
todd glass
Forgot about to go in the toilet.
Maybe my whole idea is not a good one.
joe rogan
Well, they do do that.
Yeah, she has a Sphinx cat.
I'm pretty sure.
That's the hairless one.
I've seen pictures of it on Twitter.
There's a bunch of people that have videos on how to train your cat to shit in the toilet.
todd glass
I wasn't thinking.
brian redban
See, look.
Dana's doing it.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
unidentified
I'm watching you pee, Doodlebug.
joe rogan
Dude, what is going on inside that toilet besides the pee?
brian redban
I think that's the training.
That's the training thing, you know?
joe rogan
Oh, to teach the cat how to pee in there?
Oh, that makes sense.
brian redban
And then she gets a treat.
joe rogan
Oh, that's so smart.
That's really smart.
What a cool-looking cat.
That's an alien.
brian redban
These cats are awesome.
And if you're allergic to cats, these cats don't have dander, so you can actually have this as a cat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Are they supposed to be sweet?
They're supposed to be cuddly because they need body temperature.
They need body heat, so they want to snuggle with you all the time.
brian redban
Yeah.
She's always taking baths.
todd glass
That's why they bred the...
I would imagine.
There was no really reason to breed the standard poodle to the golden retriever or Labrador, except that they...
They know that they're big, cool dogs, but people wouldn't want it because it's a poodle.
joe rogan
Right.
todd glass
But I think maybe, because we had a standard poodle growing up, and then when we were little, we didn't want to get it.
My parents had to lie what they were, because we wouldn't want a poodle.
joe rogan
Why not?
Because it's not cool enough?
todd glass
It's not cool, a poodle.
joe rogan
What kind of dog did you want?
A lab?
todd glass
Anything but a poodle.
We were little, and we took us to this place.
I remember it was this woman, Ruth Lukens, and it was immaculate, and it was like a...
A woman that really loved her little puppy she had and they came running out and we loved them.
It was probably like in fifth grade or fourth grade.
My brother's all about the same age.
And they were so cool.
And then we had to learn that they were eventually standard poodle.
And we got one Billy and then Bear.
And they were big.
Bear was like 90 pounds, almost close to 100 pounds.
He was a big male.
But Labradoodle doesn't sound any cooler.
joe rogan
Well, it's a thing, like a combination thing that people like.
It's a new thing, too.
They love saying it in social circles.
Oh, he's got a labradoodle.
I love those!
Have you seen those?
They're so cute!
It becomes one of those things.
todd glass
And they don't shed.
That's the thing.
Oh, that's the reason they picked the standard poodle.
You get the dog, it doesn't shed, they're smart, and then they...
joe rogan
That actually sounds really good.
That sounds like a good dog.
todd glass
They're pretty smart.
joe rogan
I like smart dogs, but here's the deal with smart dogs.
You've got to give them things to do.
todd glass
Oh, and they're that type of smart.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you have a German Shepherd.
People have German Shepherds, and they don't exercise them, and they don't give them tasks and have fun with them and play with them.
If you don't do that, that thing's going to get bored as fuck, and that's a big-ass animal.
todd glass
And how many people do you think go with the technology, with the age, how easy it is to do a little research on a dog and find that out?
I bet there's so many people that get it.
They're at the time in their life when they don't think about it, which I understand.
They're going to go get a dog.
Now, some people do, but other people wouldn't.
They can just get a dog.
They have no idea.
No one ever told them that huskies...
So they just get a Husky and then they learn.
You know what I mean?
Now I could see that 40 years ago, but now you would think you would...
But there's still people...
I have friends that got a Husky.
Friends of friends.
And we were camping and they told the story and I'm like, oh, they had no idea.
They went and just got a Husky.
What is this video, Brian?
By the way, do I take that for granted, or do you know Huskies want to be working, so if they're not, they do destruction?
Is that something that most people know?
joe rogan
It's true.
todd glass
Today, I would think most people would know that.
joe rogan
Fuck up your, look at this German shovel.
todd glass
He'll dig out your yard.
brian redban
Yeah, this guy just lets his German shovel play with his bear.
todd glass
Notice I said friend of a friend's.
I didn't want you to think all my friends were idiots.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at this bear.
brian redban
Such a great video.
Have you seen this video, Joe?
joe rogan
No, that's wild.
brian redban
Oh, it's amazing.
joe rogan
Guy's buddies with a bear.
And the dog hangs out with the bear, too.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that's all well and good as long as the bear really super likes you and you're with it all the time.
That's the thing about those things.
You've got to be with them all the fucking time, man.
You've got to make sure they're well fed.
You've got to make sure that they're super comfortable with you.
And yet, still, those bears will eventually, you know, occasionally, rather, turn on people.
todd glass
I agree.
You know, it's funny when we, you know, I always, this is my obsession with life.
And I always see examples of it.
Every time I see something, I see an example.
There's some people who would think putting a horn in that.
I agree, by the way.
Like, just try to have some dignity to the animal.
The San Diego Zoo, you used to be able to, now keep in mind it's still a zoo, so that's the bigger argument.
But when we were little, I learned this.
When we went back, they don't make them clap their hands anymore and wave to you, the bears.
And I asked why.
Because once when I went with my parents, they did when we were younger.
Then when I was an adult and I went, they didn't do it.
And the PETA said, you know, you're dehumanizing the animal.
They already don't want them at the zoo.
Now, while they're there, can you give some dignity?
Does that make sense to me?
joe rogan
It makes sense to me that if you're going to a zoo, first of all, you should see an animal in a semi-natural environment.
I think zoos should have a minimum size requirement for big animals.
The saddest thing is when you see a big animal and they're in a tiny-ass fucking enclosure.
That's scary.
You know, it's a prison, a public prison.
todd glass
And you would agree, so even though if the animal looks like it's happy doing it, there's no reason to make him play a fake trumpet.
joe rogan
Here's my question.
Who the fuck wants to see it clap?
Why do you want to see a bear clap, you fucking weirdo?
It's a bear.
You know why?
You should see that bear wandering around the woods in its natural environment.
Anything else...
It's human beings imposing their own power over this animal, and then all the crowd reveling in the fact.
If a bear just clapped on its own, who would give a fuck?
It's the idea that you tell the bear to clap, and look, the big giant furry killer goes to the bidding of the intelligent man.
Yay, we win again!
That's what the celebration is, when everybody cheers at SeaWorld, because you've got this majestic fucking orca to jump for fish.
todd glass
The reason that I think, this is what happens a lot with people, and you know what, when I always talk about this, I always think, am I saying I'm perfect?
No, but I hope I fucking grow.
I try to be...
joe rogan
No, you're being honest about your opinions on things.
You're not saying that you're perfect.
todd glass
I'm not saying I'm perfect, but it could sound like it, I guess, if you listen to someone for a while thinking, I try.
I fucking at least try, and I make mistakes.
So the question isn't to people when they go to SeaWorld, because I think a lot of people go to this, I just went, and I didn't think.
No, no, no, we're not asking you to judge yourself on when you went.
When you went, that's, who gives it?
You didn't think about it.
Now, once you're educated.
Right.
I went to SeaWorld.
I didn't think about it.
I wasn't a bad person.
I'm not going to hold on to the rest of my life that it's okay because I did it.
Because if I admit that it's wrong, I admit I did something wrong.
No, it's not wrong until you have knowledge, right?
joe rogan
Right.
todd glass
So that's what the SeaWorld thing, going back to that, or this, the PETA, you know the same people were probably going, oh, they're just waving.
Right.
unidentified
But...
todd glass
No, now you think about it.
joe rogan
Why do you want that fucking bear to ride a bike?
todd glass
Yeah, and I watched it the first time and liked it, but I was young, I didn't know, but you have to ride a bike.
joe rogan
It's one thing if you have a bear and you teach it how to ride a bike and it loves it, and it's like, where's the bike?
But when you're making him do it for a fucking show, it's like, come on, man.
todd glass
Yeah, when you think about it.
Did you ever see that video?
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
But did you ever see the video of the bears and the monkeys, and they're going around, they're riding bikes around a circle in Russia, and the monkey falls, and the bear attacks it, and they can't get the bear off the monkey.
The bear kills the monkey in front of the crowd.
Did you ever see that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bear attacks monkey.
todd glass
Can I tell you, why do I think, although I know I wouldn't want my child to see that, but my instincts are to go, good.
joe rogan
Well, you can't count on bears to do what you want them to do all the time.
You can count on them if you train them to be nice to you.
If you feed them and train them, you can count on them.
But that is a wild motherfucking animal with a hair-trigger idea of survival and death built into its DNA. And it's ready to explode at any fucking dangerous situation.
And if it thinks a person is threatening its life, or if it thinks something is violating its instincts to avoid...
Look at this bear.
The bear's on a bike.
todd glass
Oh, there's video of this?
joe rogan
Yeah, the monkey...
See, the monkey's in front.
The monkey's in front of the bear.
Scoot it ahead a little bit, because it might take a few minutes.
So the monkey's running, and then the bear's running.
But the monkey falls, and the bear falls on top of the monkey and gets pissed, and just goes after the monkey.
They're tearing the monkey apart in front of everybody, and they can't get him off the monkey.
They're like, stop, please stop, please stop.
They're pulling the monkey, they're pulling the bike, and the bear is just fucking this monkey up.
It's a big bear.
And they can't do shit.
They're trying to pull the monkey out of its hands, or out of its mouth, but it won't let go.
It's just mauling this monkey in front of everybody, freaking out.
But that's nature, man.
This bear feels like it got attacked by the monkey.
The bear is not understanding that he was on a bike and the monkey was on a bike.
They pulled the monkey off, but it's dead.
It's torn apart.
The monkey is just minding his own business, doing what everybody tells him to do, but the bear thinks that the monkey attacked him.
He's like, why did I get hurt?
Oh, this fucking monkey.
He attacked me, and so he just goes after him.
todd glass
I think I feel good when I see it, obviously not because of the monkey, because I think, okay, maybe that will remind people, yeah, they're fucking bears.
The same old thing we think every time we see that stuff.
joe rogan
That's a cunty thing to do, to take an animal and imprison it like that.
It's not a bad thing to do to look at him in the wild.
It's not a bad thing to do to manage their numbers in the wild, including wolves and bears.
You've got to kill a certain amount of them, especially if there's a lot of people in the area.
You have to keep populations down.
It's important.
Mountain lions, too.
It's a big one.
But that, to me, is not nearly as cruel as taking them and sticking them in a fucking animal prison so we can gawk at them.
That shit should be illegal.
I take my kids to the zoo.
I want to say right now I'm a hypocrite.
I take them to the Santa Barbara Zoo.
It's a beautiful place.
I love it up there.
But...
The reality is it shouldn't exist.
It shouldn't.
At the very least, you should have some gigantic walled-in preserve where you could travel through their ranks undisturbed, like in some sort of a camouflaged tube, but they should be able to hunt.
The animals should have a natural ecosystem.
We're completely dominating their ecosystem and forcing them to exist in an unnatural paradigm, the paradigm of Cold food being slid in a tray under your door, and you have massive predatory instincts from thousands of years, millions of years, in fact, of DNA in your body, and you have these natural reward systems that you don't have language and context.
You just have these natural reward systems beat in, and you're told to ignore them.
todd glass
You know, you just sort of...
Whether this could happen or not, but bigger things have been built.
You sort of just explain something that could happen.
Like, there's this thing, obviously, with technology, to get it moved through this area silently would be easy.
Camouflage.
You know, it looks like...
And you get inside, and there's windows that are...
And then if there's some way you could let all that happen, and what could you charge then to take this thing through there?
First of all, it'd be...
Be much more.
Maybe that could be, you know?
But I like what you said about you gotta go to the zoo, because, like, the opposite of that is...
Okay, I'm going to take my kid to the zoo, so now I'm going to just make pretend that it's okay.
It's better to just say, yeah, I'm doing it, but it's fucking wrong.
joe rogan
I'm certainly hypocritical because I'm contributing to the problem.
todd glass
Yeah, and I do the same thing, but I think admitting it is at least not disrespecting the people that are fighting the fight and we know they're right.
Like, I think one thing going is bad, the next level, and maybe I'm saying this to make me feel better because I get ultimately don't go, don't, but I think there's another level of, there's people out there, you're too lazy, you know their fight is right, You're a little too lazy or selfish and you don't listen.
But don't fight them.
Don't call them idiots.
Just go, they're fighting the right fight and I'm lazy right now.
joe rogan
I'm certainly selfish.
I'm selfish more than I am lazy because I want my children to experience these animals.
That's why I go.
I think it's fascinating for them to see gorillas and know that that's a real animal right there and it freaks them out.
todd glass
But SeaWorld, would you take them to that?
joe rogan
No.
Well, I think even gorillas and chimps, I think it's gross.
I think all that should be illegal.
But it's legal, and it's there.
And I'm not sure how much impact I know.
Believe me, folks, who are about your writing right now, you hypocritical fuck!
These animals are living beings.
I agree with you 100%.
But it's still there.
It's there.
The zoo is there.
Do I think it should be there?
Absolutely not.
Do I think it should be illegal and should I be boycotting it?
Most likely.
If it was just me on my own, I wouldn't go.
But in this situation that I am in right now and having children who enjoy looking at the animals, I think it's important, first of all, that I take them there and I tell them that there's something wrong with this.
I tell them that I don't like it.
I tell them that I think that animals should be free to live in their own environment, and I think that this is way worse than being...
I think an animal...
I mean, obviously they wouldn't have this choice, but if they had a choice between living in the wild and being taken out by a predator, or living in a fucking cage, just staring at people that stare at you, I would take my chances with a wolf.
If you die, it's quick and it's the natural way.
This is nonsense.
Giraffes are not supposed to die of old age.
It's supposed to get taken out by lions, right?
That's what's supposed to happen.
It sounds fucked up, but that's what's always happening.
todd glass
Well, yeah, because no one can defy that.
That's just flat-out nature.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
It is what it is.
Gazelles are fast for a reason, because they taste delicious.
And there's a bunch of animals that want to fucking chase them and eat them.
I mean, it's really simple.
But to put them in a cage and say, oh, this is where the gazelles live now.
This is crazy.
They can't even run.
They're stuck in this little tiny spot, and they're freaking out.
They always think someone's going to get them, but no one's going to get them ever.
todd glass
I even feel bad for goldfish.
joe rogan
Yeah, goldfish are stupid as fuck, though.
They barely have even brains.
This bitch is winding down.
Todd Glass, you're an amazing motherfucker.
You're a hilarious comedian.
Thank God we finally did this, man.
todd glass
Yeah, this was...
I never get to do this, ever.
joe rogan
You can do this any time you want.
todd glass
What I mean is, it's fun to do a podcast where you get to do something you don't do on yours, and I was able to let go.
That was an amazing podcast.
One hit of pot I took, or two hits.
That lasted the whole time.
About ten minutes ago, I felt myself coming down, and that was just a very enjoyable conversation.
joe rogan
Yeah, I really enjoyed it, too.
You're a very thoughtful guy, and I think you confuse that with overanalyzing.
I think you're just thoughtful.
todd glass
Well, I appreciate that.
joe rogan
I really enjoyed talking to you, man.
We'll do this again.
Cool.
Todd Glass, follow him on Twitter.
It's Todd Glass with two Ds.
Not one D. Can I say two things?
Like some fucking weirdo.
unidentified
Oh shit.
todd glass
Helium.
Helium Thanksgiving week.
joe rogan
Oh, the club that you helped design.
todd glass
Yeah, yeah.
Wednesday.
joe rogan
Philadelphia.
todd glass
Wednesday before Thanksgiving and then take Thanksgiving off and then do Friday and Saturday and then I'll be in Dallas at Addison the second week of December.
joe rogan
A beautiful fucking club.
Addison Improv.
Love that place.
todd glass
One of my favorite places.
joe rogan
One of my favorite places.
These people are wild as fuck.
todd glass
It proves that you can have a comedy club in a typical strip mall, but it has fucking soul.
joe rogan
Yeah, that place has sold.
That place has been around a long time, too.
Alright, we will be back tomorrow with Pat McGee, the guy who made the werewolf out in the lobby.
What are you pointing to?
brian redban
Oh, can I just say I have a show?
joe rogan
Why don't you wait until I'm done with the fucking plug?
We'll get you in there, man.
Don't interrupt it.
Pat McGee will be here tomorrow and then Sam Harris on Wednesday.
So, the return of powerful Sam Harris.
What?
brian redban
This Thursday in San Diego, I'll be at the American Comedy Company.
We're having a big Halloween show and party there.
Just go to AmericanComedyCo.com.
A bunch of surprise guests, too, that we can't even talk about, but huge headliner.
joe rogan
Another great club, American Comedy Company.
Awesome place.
You go there?
todd glass
I've heard great things about it.
Beautiful.
joe rogan
Perfect setup.
And this weekend, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, I'm at the Irvine Improv with lovely and talented Tony Hinchcliffe.
All right, you freaks.
We will see you tomorrow, and big kiss.
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