David Choe and Yoshi Obayashi join Joe Rogan on a chaotic, high-energy episode, where Choe mocks Yoshi’s "Yoshi Mill" nickname while revealing his past in shemale porn distribution. Yoshi explains older consumers’ distrust of digital media, then recounts bizarre UFC betting schemes tied to BJ Penn’s 2006 fight—$32K lost, $36K won in Vegas riots—highlighting impulse control. Choe’s violent funeral confrontation over his stepmother’s alleged poisoning of his father contrasts with Rogan’s psychedelic tales of DMT-induced existential revelations, questioning reality’s nature. The episode blends dark humor, unconventional life stories, and Rogan’s promotion of their Pasadena live show, underscoring how personal extremes shape public perception. [Automatically generated summary]
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Well, for people who do know Yoshi, they know that he used to work in the porn business, and his currency was porn.
Like, if he needed to get tickets to something, like, Yoshi knows a lot of athletes and rock stars and whatever, and he's like, hey, you guys want some porn?
And he's always there with a box of porn.
And if you've gotten a box of porn from Yoshi, you know that sometimes he hides some shemale porn in there.
Well, I think part of the idea is also that a lot of people have these sexual thoughts about men because they were imprinted with some sort of sexual experience by a man when they were young.
Whether it was molestation or something like that, whatever it is.
They had some weirdness that happened with another boy.
And because of that, even though they don't have homosexual thoughts, they're not homosexual, they can still get aroused by the idea of men or by the idea of doing something that you're not supposed to do, like looking at a guy's cock.
What we're looking at for the folks listening on iTunes, it's a famous photo of two Latino gentlemen with gang-like tattoos and they're in the tub together naked.
If you were into gay dudes, and if you were into dudes, especially if you were into athletic dudes, I would totally see how you could see two men grappling, especially bare chest to bare chest, as being homoerotic.
It's really based upon your sexual preference.
If you're into that, yeah, you would think that's homoerotic.
But if you're not, it's not.
You know what I'm saying?
If you're not gay, it's just two dudes fighting.
But if you are gay, you'd be psyched.
Maybe you could enjoy it on another level.
It would be not just fighting, but fighting with two hot dudes that you're really getting excited by.
So you're getting excited by the fight itself, and then you get excited by the fact...
That you would like to suck both their cocks after it's over.
He wasn't, you know, if you're just wearing the nylon pants and you got the lube on underneath, and you really probably can't tell at first, but he, like, had a puddle in his pants.
He had this business, and so he didn't have any time for dating.
So what he would do is he would go and work all fucking day on his own business.
Then he would eat dinner, he would order takeout, Then he would go to the strip club in his shooting pants, and he would get one off, and then he'd go back home.
Shooting pants, the whole deal is finding a compatible person.
If you don't find a compatible person, you find someone who wants to fight all the time, find someone who wants to test you, find someone who's not at peace themselves, you're gonna have fucking problems.
Because you can always find something wrong with people.
But if someone who's in a high position of power, like say a political person, and they found that they had tranny porn at their house, even though it's totally legal, and even though you're saying it's the biggest market, so it represents a lot of human beings that are into that stuff, you'd be done.
But it's complete, like, that's a weird sort of homophobia that's still accepted.
It's a weird sort of prejudice that's still accepted.
Your sexual preference, even if you're a nice person, even if you're nice and you're intelligent, we'll judge you based on whether or not you jerk off to dudes with dicks, or dudes who look like chicks with dicks.
Folks, if you're normal and you're listening to this and you're not all fucked up in the head like us where we can just say cuckold and no one has to worry whether or not anybody understands what it means...
Apparently there's a group of dudes who like watching other guys fuck their women.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they like, especially like big black guys to fuck their women.
People had to get tired of white people fucking white women, where they're like, listen, we got a million videos of white girls getting fucked by white guys with three-quarter hard dicks, okay?
Can we bring in some brothers?
And then they're like, okay, we'll just try this out and see how it works.
Boom, smash hit.
Big black dudes with giant dicks fucking white girls, and just...
And for girls, that's part of their currency, right?
We had this guy on, and I have to tell people who listen to this podcast, we have found a molecular biologist to debate Dr. Peter Duesberg.
We had this guy on the podcast, and a lot of people got really angry at me.
He's a professor of biology at the University of California, Berkeley, and he's got this crazy theory about HIV and AIDS. Okay.
He doesn't believe that HIV causes AIDS.
He believes that the drugs that people give people for HIV, what really is going on with these people is they have a compromised immune system from drug use.
You're giving them a drug that's designed to kill a disease that they don't even, it's not even the cause of their illness.
He's saying the cause of their illness is the fact that they're taking all these drugs.
And the people that are in HIV research, they think he's fucking crazy.
And a lot of people got mad at us for having him on.
And it's a controversial situation because obviously he's smarter than me.
I'm not a professor of biology.
He's got tenure and he does peer-reviewed stuff on cancer that's very well respected to this day.
But he's got this wacky opinion on HIV. And, you know, he insists that no one wants to debate him.
So we got this guy who's finally willing to debate him and I'll announce all of it when everything gets signed away and we figure out what day they're going to both fly in.
But we're going to bring him in here and we're going to have them debate as long as it takes on the podcast.
And either, you know, either Dewsburg is fucking crazy or Dewsburg is a genius and we have a real problem with the way people perceive this one particular disease.
I don't fucking know.
I'm just hoping that I can figure out how to navigate through the waters because I'm basically going to be like a referee in a contest that I don't understand.
He said that what you're seeing in Africa is not people that have HIV, it's people that have no nutrition.
He's like, you're seeing compromised immune systems because they're starving and they're in horrible climates where there's a lot of waste around.
You're seeing a lot of different things.
He's like, they're not testing these people for HIV. He goes, and the amount of people that they have tested that do have HIV in Africa, he said the number hasn't increased, but the population has tripled.
The population of Africa, they were saying, is going to be decimated by AIDS. And he was like, well, if that's the truth, why did the population increase by threefold?
Population was like, he said it was like, this is all Duesberg, I'm paraphrasing, but he said, I believe it was like 500 million, and now it's over a billion.
Well, the idea is that if AIDS was a communicable disease, like people are describing it, it would have swept through Africa and decimated the population.
And he's saying because it didn't, not even by any stretch of the imagination, he said it backs up his idea that it's something that's brought upon in Africa by poor nutrition, in America by drug use.
I don't know, man.
I know gay dudes love to party, and that's something that can't be ignored.
They fucking love to party.
And it could be a combination of them loving to party makes them more susceptible to certain diseases and illnesses.
But we all know that.
I have a friend who they're married and they're gay folks and they have a total normal married life.
But they also have friends who are gay that they talk about, that are their buddies, that they party with.
And these guys are fucking savages.
When you get a direct line into how gays...
And these are gay professional men.
I mean, one guy owns...
They do DVD. Yeah, one guy owns a clothing company, and he's really rich, and another guy...
He owns some other business, and he actually pays a straight guy and has sex with him.
He's got this straight Russian guy that he paid.
The guy was broke working at a bar, and so he started paying him for sex, and he fucks this guy in a regular basis.
So now he bought this guy a car, puts a guy up in an apartment, and just goes and bangs him.
And they go out, and they fucking party hard.
Gay guys party hard, man.
And it might just be this guy's buddies.
But when I meet these dudes and they start telling me stories about the fucking throwdowns that they all have together.
They fucking go out and do crazy drugs.
They're in this dance culture all the time.
And they love to take ecstasy.
And they get together and, you know, that's a part of what they're doing that's fun.
And that shit will decimate your immune system.
And whether or not Dewsburg's correct about all of his assumptions about AIDS, Let's set that aside for a minute and just look at the fact that there's so many of these dudes taking those drugs and that those drugs will fuck you up.
That is a fact.
Whether or not HIV causes AIDS, the majority of scientists say it does, so I have to go with them.
I mean, the majority support The idea that it's this ever-altering and changing disease that's very hard to figure out, and then it decimates the immune system.
I don't imagine that you could keep something like that a secret if it wasn't true.
So having him on was a tricky thing because I can't debate him.
Well, see, that's what, like, we didn't write in our description, like, it's D-V-D-A-A-S-A, but we didn't write it's double vaginal, double anal, whatever.
And so, you know, my manager's like, dude, you have a porn star on there and you have this fucking guy.
Like, do you want ever to have non-porn star guests, like, real guests on?
It's not like if you said something fucked up and then like, remember when Hugh Grant got blown by that hooker and got arrested and went on The Tonight Show and Jay Leno goes, what the hell were you thinking?
Jay Leno does his famous line that brought The Tonight Show back.
And you know, when they have those shows, they talk about the history of the war between The Tonight Show and The David Letterman Show.
That was the show that turned the tide.
Jay Leno looked at Hugh Grant and said, what the hell were you thinking?
Well, when he did that, that was like this tiny little conversation that only took place over a couple of minutes.
Wouldn't you love to sit Hugh Grant down and give him a glass of wine and give him some weed and talk to him for hours and go, how many hookers did you get?
The idea that you're going to write some shit down and that someone is going to be legally entangled with you and then you're going to have to sit in front of a bunch of other people.
And when you want to break up with her, they have to decide how your money gets distributed.
And in your situation, it's a terrible idea because you've got a lot of money.
They'll kill you when they find out that you have an explanation date on them.
Imagine if you bought super hot robot hookers, and they have this implanted memory of their life with you, this perfect life with you, and how deeply, deeply, deeply in love with you they are.
And then they realize that on year five, they die, because that's when you get tired of chicks, and you want to bring in another one, and...
I don't like to talk too much about it on the podcast, but the odds of finding somebody that you get along with as good as I get along with her, they're pretty slim.
I haven't found that many people in my whole life that I get along with like that.
It's a compatibility thing, because I'm not the right dude for a lot of chicks, and you're not the right dude for a lot of chicks.
You've got to find the one who's like, that's what I've been looking for.
It's good to be happy, and the idea of being able to raise kids was always a real scary thing for me when I was younger.
When I was in my 20s, I thought of it as a burden.
That's all I thought of it as.
I was like, oh my god, imagine if I had a kid right now, I'd be fucked.
I don't even like feeding my cat.
If I had a kid, Jesus Christ.
But once you go through the experience and you become an adult, you kind of have a different perspective on just the idea of a finite lifetime and the idea of the concept of being able to raise a human from the very beginning and like educate them and expose them to different things along the way and communicate with them.
So the difference is if you're doing something you're only doing for the money, you're always going to have this feeling like, all right, just plow through this and do it for the money.
But when you're doing something that you love, you eliminate that bad feeling.
Well, that's the thing is when I hear you doing the announcing for UFC, I'm like, This guy sounds like he's super, super pumped right now.
Like, you know, it sounds like you're into it.
So, and like, you're like, oh, when you're like referring back to fights from like 10 years earlier, I'm like, is there something in front of you showing those things?
Well, George won the fight, but I thought BJ did more damage, and all George did was take him down a couple of times in the later rounds, but BJ thumbed George in the eye.
It was a very interesting fight.
He thumbed George in the eye in the first round, in the right eye, and he had a cut.
And that really fucked with them.
That was the first time George had faced real serious adversity inside the cage.
Because it wasn't a thumb on purpose.
People have to realize that because of the fact that thumbs aren't exposed, even with a legitimate punch, which BJ's was, a completely legitimate punch, oftentimes a thumb can go right into the eyeball.
And you could really fuck up a guy's vision from that.
And it was just because BJ had cleaner striking back then.
Because I believe he won, he did more damage, and I think ultimately the Japanese had a better way of judging fights than the standard 10-point must system that we use, which is really like a boxing system.
And then this is when I found out that a sports book is not actually part of the casino.
It's a separate entity that's like rents out.
So I went and I said, 40 grand on BJ Penn to win.
After I talked to Pat, I was like, hey, are you sure you want me to put this money?
He's like, BJ's going to kill this guy.
It doesn't matter.
He's got the heart of a champion.
I was like, all right.
And I go in there and the odds, if you don't remember, everyone already thought BJ was going to win.
So if I put 40 grand on BJ to win, I would have only got back like 30 grand, I think.
And if I put 40 on St. Pierre, I would have got back like 70,000, I think.
So the odds were way in BJ Penn's favor.
So they wouldn't even take a bet that big.
So I was like, oh shit.
So he's like, and they were, all the sports books were closing.
So they're like, you have to do it the next day.
So I was like, all right, I'm gonna, I'll just go to strip club, I guess.
So I go to strip club and as soon as I walk in or get out of the car, A security guard sees me, and he goes, right this way, sir.
And then he takes me to this giant private room, and I'm like, still smell like shit from Africa.
And I'm like, they just bring over the hottest strippers, and then I'm like, what the fuck's going on?
And I realize I'm wearing a BJ Penn security shirt, so they think BJ's coming.
They're like, when's BJ going to come here?
And all these security guards are sucking my dick, just like, BJ's the best, he's going to win the fight tomorrow.
And I was like, oh.
So I'm like, I'm going to take advantage of the situation.
LAUGHTER I'm like sitting there with my friend Harry.
We're like, you know, getting lap dances, all this shit.
And then I was like, fuck, they're gonna at some point expect VJ to come here.
So I sneak out the side.
And then I don't think I slept that night.
It was one of those nights where I stay at the strip club till like the sun comes up.
And then the next day, I started putting the money down on BJ to win, but it was like seven grand at like the, you know, the Venetian and then like eight grand over here and I had to split it up a little bit.
So I was like running around and I couldn't get the money spread out.
So I was only able to bet like 32 grand and I still had eight grand in cash on me.
And then the fight starts.
And like you said, like it was just like you said, like Everyone the place is going nuts like it's going fucking insane like everyone's like fuck like Canada fuck Hawaii and it's like and then the fight happens I'm like oh fuck St. Pierre looks bloody first round I'm like this fights done like BJ won and then St. Pierre is a smart fighter so he like deflected a lot or whatever and then when decision time came around They gave it to St. Pierre by one point decision and the place
goes and they started like screaming and Like, I couldn't believe it.
Like, I'm like, oh my god, because I had my own money on the fight too.
He walks off stage, his brother's like, get him drunk right away.
And then, I don't know if you go out at all after the fights or whatever, but I've never seen Vegas this violent before in my life.
Like, there was like street brawls inside casinos, there was Canadians beating up Hawaiians, Hawaiians beating up, like, it was crazy.
I knew a Hawaiian guy that put his house on, you know, up for the whole thing.
Yeah, I mean, it was insane.
People were going crazy.
I've never, in all the years I've been in Vegas, I've never seen a situation like this where people...
He bet his house on BJ? Yeah, I mean, it was fucking crazy.
So then, just as a side thing, the girl that I was with for seven years...
And we had just broken up, happened to be in Vegas.
So I was having dinner with her after and I was telling her what was happening.
I was like, dude, I just lost $32,000 off my friend's money on this thing.
And she was like, oh.
And I was calling him and I was saying, hey, Pat, I still have eight grand of your money.
Do you want me to gamble with it and win your 32 grand back?
And he's like...
Get your fucking ass back over here.
Like, he was so pissed off.
And so I was just having dinner with her.
And then he calls me back and he goes, you know what?
I was planning on winning the money or losing it, so go for it.
And I was like, I can do this?
And remember, I've only won $1,000.
That was like the most money I'd ever won.
I never even had like $8,000 or $40,000.
So I was like, shit, I'm going to walk into that high limit room for the first time in my life.
So...
But I'm talking with her and, you know, like right after a long break, you've been together with someone for a long time and you break up, there's like that maybe you're still going to get together.
So I'm like, fuck, I'm going to go gamble right now.
And then in this situation, who the fuck was that guy?
So Chris Tucker and like, you know, a posse of like 40 people like walk in.
Then they start hitting on her right away.
Right when I got up so I was like fuck I gotta go win this money but like Chris Tucker looks like he's gonna I was like sort of stuck I was like fuck this motherfucker is hitting on my ex-girlfriend and I was like alright I'm just gonna run and do it so I walked into the Venetian high limit room for the first time and then eight grand in like thousand dollar chips is like You know, it's like a little stack.
And I split it up and I started playing like my system the way I play.
I think, to answer your question, I think it's because I'm really good at also pulling out, you know?
Like, no, I'm not even joking.
Like, I'm really awesome at it.
Like, people are like, the amount of fucking you do, the fact that you haven't got a girl pregnant right now, I'm like, because I'm extremely disciplined, you know?
And I knew that.
Like, gambling, sex, like, Anything that is enjoyable becomes an addiction, right?
And then you're in an AA thing going, I don't know, I just went into the bar to have one drink, and the next thing you know, and that's everyone's Vegas story, right?
They're like, I was up, and that's why Vegas is there, because no one ever stops.
Yeah, and I've been doing that since I was 15. You've hired someone to come gamble with you since you were 15. From 15 to 23, I consistently lost every paycheck.
And I would be going back from Vegas with that.
I don't understand.
I worked at Toys R Us for two months.
I made a couple hundred dollars, and I went to Vegas, and I doubled it.
But now I'm leaving with nothing.
It was like, I had it, but why didn't I leave with it?
Nobody leaves with it.
And it was just baffling.
I was like...
You can come to Vegas and win.
People win money here, but nobody ever leaves with it.
What is that?
What the fuck is that?
And it's like the same thing as an alcoholic who's like, I had a nice buzz going.
Why did I have to take it to the point where I blacked out and was puking?
It's like, because you can't stop.
So I was like, if I can pinpoint, if I can know about myself and be honest with myself that I definitely cannot stop, why don't I just hire someone to stop me?
I tell him, look, when I get to this number, stop me.
And if I keep going, grab me by my throat, pick me up.
And so I developed this whole system of like, you know, pulling out.
And it's, it worked for a long time.
And it actually, it helped, like, in every aspect of my life.
Like, you fuck a girl and when it feels good, you just pull out.
Like, way before you're gonna come, you know?
So I could sit here and, like, the shit with me gambling is super simple.
And I actually haven't gambled in a long time because I don't need to anymore.
But basically, I could explain it to you, but to actually do it, it's, like, almost impossible.
And I know that, too.
That's why I have Harry with me.
And it's like, if you go to Vegas right now, because of card counting, because of all these math nerds and shit, Blackjack, the most maximum bet you could ever bet on Blackjack is $25,000.
You're going to just stick the tip in and get a little bit and then it's like Vegas is Goliath and you're this tiny little speck and you're just taking little nicks out of it.
The issue is you have to understand where you're at, you have to understand your environment, and you have to have the resources to make your environment compatible to you.
You have those resources.
You're not like a regular person Living in the mountain riding a donkey to work every day.
So you've got some cash.
You could hire someone to plow your fucking driveway.
You could hire someone to put motion detector lights on.
So if there's mountain lions creeping in your backyard, the lights hit them and they run away.
But my point was, but let me just finish, go full circle with this, is that in Colorado, the natural beauty is so astounding that everywhere you look, you're like, ah.
Right.
There was this place that we used to drive.
We would go up to this area called Netherland, and you'd drive through the mountains to get there.
And as you're driving through the mountains, you can't even believe you're allowed to be here.
You're just seeing these snow-covered peaks and these giant drop-offs and fucking trees everywhere, and it's just majestic, and the clouds float overhead, and you realize this is God's country.
You are witnessing...
The impact of your environment is substantial.
The idea that we should only measure things that you can fucking put on a scale, what you're not counting in is the visual benefit you get from seeing art.
That's why people buy art.
They love art.
They love having it there.
There's also art in nature, and that's reality.
If you live in a place that's boring as fuck to look at, it's not inspirational.
But when you're in Colorado, and you're driving up Sunshine Canyon...
I have all these things in my head, but to a person who's never grown up in cold weather, that's a terrifying variable that you've just added to the equation.
That's why I was saying I have this like fantasy of like fucking LA and then these visions of like this post-apocalyptic like just riots and fires and I'm like, just get out.
Growing up in Boston, there's something that I appreciate about cold weather because it gives you a certain respect for the possibilities that Mother Nature can throw at you on a regular basis.
And it sounds ridiculous to want to put yourself through that.
And when I was young, I mostly was a person who sought comfort.
So I wanted to get out of the snow and get out of all that as much as possible and find a nice place so I could take a nap.
But as I've got older, I've realized that that's one of the things that sort of steals you as a human being, is overcoming adversity and dealing with difficult situations.
And I think it's good to know that winter's coming.
It's so interesting to me that people can develop on the same planet in different areas geographically and have completely different sets of values and ideals.
Comparing their takes on family and politics.
It's fascinating to me.
Endlessly, endlessly fascinating to me that we can all exist in 2013 but be very, very, very different.
That's why Ensign on the podcast last night was talking a lot about Japan.
We were talking about Japanese culture and why he loves it so much and the Japanese people and how...
How well they responded to the Fukushima incident.
All those people orderly in line waiting for, you know, for aid.
So me and my brother went and we went around the block helping all these old people turn off their gas line so that they're There was an old couple trying to find their gas line with a lighter on.
Oh my god.
So we went around the whole block with a flashlight and we made sure everyone had their gas line off so that the neighborhood wouldn't explode.
You did the right thing for humanity, and you took advantage of a disenfranchised situation you found yourself in because of the inequities of the situation, the different system that's what we operate under right now.
The inequities of the situation you find yourself in forced you to drastic actions.
There's nothing wrong with what you did.
You did the right thing.
Humanly, humanitarian-wise with your friends?
Good for you, man.
I was listening to a lecture on this very subject today on the way over here, just coincidentally, completely coincidentally, and the guy was saying that one of the issues that we have with modern culture and the attitude of modern society when you watch the Kardashian show or you watch nonsensical bullshit on TV, immerse yourself in the sort of culture of gossip...
The reason for that is because we are in a situation where we have a massive abundance of resources.
Where everyone can get gas on every corner and you can go to a store.
And even if you're poor, you can afford fatty foods.
So that lack of need for character and lack of need for...
Any sort of real drastic effort to overcome your environment, like everybody else all over the world, allows us to get really fucking cunty and really stupid and soft and lazy because we only have to do as much work as we need to survive.
But when survival is easy, then your brain is left to fucking dwell on stupid shit like the Kardashians or like, you know, who wore this dress better or why does this guy have a car like that and I got this piece of shit, you know?
So, going back to the Congo, when I was in the Congo, I realized a lot of places, they don't have toilet paper, like, even in, like, just public restrooms and stuff.
And for those who don't know, I need to shit a lot, you know?
Well, in Brazzaville, the city part, before I went into the jungle.
So I went in and you go to the section and you go, where's the toilet paper?
And there's the toilet paper.
It's just there.
And then you're like, okay, it's just a thing of toilet paper and you buy it.
And then reflecting later on when I'm here and I go to Ralph's and I'm standing in the aisle of the toilet paper...
There's, like, 50 different brands.
There's two-ply, four-ply, quilted, scented, unscented, and you're just sitting there, and I'm like, which one should I get?
Like, which one will feel the best on my asshole lips?
Like, which, you know?
And then the next thing you realize, you're like, I just spent, like, 10 minutes, you know, thinking about something that most people never have to, like, think about, you know?
They look down on Americans because we're supposedly at the peak of the abundance pyramid.
We're the most ridiculous as far as our consumption and our attitude towards consumerism and material possessions that we eclipse.
We eclipse the rest of the world in our ridiculousness.
And then, as evidence of that, we provide to you this reality television culture that has sweeped the nation.
And it's just more and more ridiculous attention focused on people that are completely undeserving of it.
Well, why is that coming from America?
Well, most likely, because we're the ones with the most guns.
We're the biggest bullies.
We're the ones who control the military aspect of the majority of the country.
The majority of the world, rather.
And because of that, the people that sit here in the balls of the dick that's fucking the world, we're weak.
We're soft.
We're weak bitches.
That's why we appreciate character.
We appreciate when someone...
We appreciate Survivorman, which used to be like everyday life a hundred years ago.
We appreciate the idea that, oh, he goes to the fucking jungle for seven days.
People live in the jungle all year round.
That's their life.
We are so weak that a day without food is, what did you do?
That's most of the world.
There's many days where you're not going to find something to eat, and you're going to get desperate, and then you're going to get some ingenuity together to find something to fucking eat.
And that's how people survive to get this far along the evolutionary food chain in the first place.
Yoshi, with your ass eating.
The reason why you're eating ass is because you don't have to go out there and fish for a living.
I watch those shows in Alaska where they build fish wheels.
There's all these shows where these people live in Alaska.
They just live off the land.
Most of them don't have any jobs.
They're just hunting, farming, and catching fish, and then they huddle in for the winter.
Well, they developed this thing called a fish wheel, and they make it out of logs, and it's this huge net-like thing that just spins with the current, and it keeps rolling.
And as it rolls, it just scoops fish out of the water and drops them into a bucket.
It's really wild, and it's ingenious, because they invented this up there independently in Alaska.
Hundreds of years ago.
Who knows when the invention of the fish wheel was?
Definitely figure out when that fishing season is, or when it's close to the end.
Because that trip, the Vice Show, the thumbs up, when I hitchhiked from Tijuana to Alaska, when we got to Alaska, do you think that they would have hot strippers in Alaska?
They're like, why are we wasting our time in Bismarck, South Dakota, where we can't make a net goal, when you can fly to Alaska, and these motherfuckers have money, and they're horny as shit.
And the selling point for me was the guy that was like my therapist at the time was like, he's like, I could tell you have a very short attention span.
You get bored with things very easily.
You know, we could make some progress with you just through like normal therapy and these kinds of things over the course of years.
Or you can have 10 years of psychotherapy in one night where you experience like all these things.
And I was like, yeah, what is that?
And he told me it was ayahuasca.
So then I went to do it in the jungle in Colombia with him.
Well, during heavy REM sleep, they believe your brain produces more of it and they also believe that it might be responsible for alien abductions.
There's a lot of theories about that because DMT is produced during REM sleep, and most of the alien abduction experiences occur at night.
And the idea is, well, you're saying these people are dreaming, but they know it really happened.
No, I'm saying it doesn't mean either or.
Just because they're having these crazy, fucked up experiences doesn't mean that crazy, fucked up experiences isn't a reality.
It just might be...
dimension that's only accessible through chemicals.
And that is a possibility.
The possibility that everything you experience, look, even if you experience a dream that's profound, it's still an experience.
What is happening in that dream that becomes so profound that you sort of see things in a different way?
You're having some sort of an experience.
You're taking in information.
There's unique ones and zeros that are entering into your mind that are allowing you to form a new version of the world.
Well, when the drug experience under DMT, which is, again, the quicker acting form of ayahuasca, the active contents in ayahuasca, Whatever that is, is a very potent experience.
Whether it's real or not, it's silly to judge.
The idea that you can't hit it with a hammer so it's not real.
Well, you know, it's like people say, well, it wasn't real.
It doesn't matter.
It's exactly the same as if it was real.
Let's be very scientific here.
Let's say you were having a hallucination, and that hallucination lasted one hour, and in that one hour, this chemical perturbed your normal sense of visual stimulation and input to the mind, and it gave you a distorted perception of reality.
And then let's say, so let's say that's option A, and then let's say option B is you took magic fairy dust that brought you to an enchanted land that couldn't have possibly been accessed without it, and in that world you communicated with impossibly intelligent entities that broke down the universe for you in a way that you could understand in your brief time there.
And then let's look at those two things and say, Regardless of which one is true, they both achieve the exact same result.
Whether it's perturbing your sense of visual input to the mind, or whether it's you really go to a magic fairyland and communicate with God, the same thing happens.
You can make noises with your mouth and use the cultural context of written language and historical reference To sort of put it in a position where you can explain it to a group of people that are not going to make fun of you.
But the reality of it is, all culture aside, all language aside, all preconceived notions aside, you're having the same fucking experience.
But I understood after I did it that my whole idea of the world that I had used as a reference, that I had used as like, this is this, and this is that, and this is the banking system, and this is the government, and this is...
It became ridiculous.
It all became ridiculous.
And the idea that this could exist and that I couldn't know about it, that I could have been living my life, it became infantile.
I mean, you're taking the words right out of my mouth.
It just shows you the ridiculous...
It was completely life-changing for me.
But here's the danger in it, I think, is...
When I start going off on it, because I didn't get a tattoo of it, but I'm super passionate about it now, because it did completely alter my vision of how I see things, is I start to sound like a maniac when I start talking about it too much.
Yeah, but then I'm aware of the perception of like, oh, Dave sounds fucking like a maniac and crazy, and he's talking about this weird drug, and then...
The thing about it is I did it in Colombia with like 20 other people.
Who are these 20 other people?
You know, it was like this trip, arranged trip, and it's like, it's exactly who you thought.
They're like weird hippie type people, you know.
The fact that this thing exists and that it only attracts these like weird, like dreadlocked white people.
When if the right people did it, basically I think everyone should do it, but if the right people that, That didn't hear it and, oh man, that sounds like fucking crazy hippie bullshit, you know?
It could literally change the world.
It could change the consciousness of the whole planet.
It's Schedule 1. It is one of the most illegal drugs in the world, along with marijuana.
Which, by the way, the idea of Schedule 1 is that it has no medical use, which is hilarious because there is medical marijuana approved in California.
It's been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that it helps in a lot of different areas.
It helps people with cancer.
It helps people going through chemo to get their appetite back.
It helps people with glaucoma by reducing interocular pressure.
It helps people with ADD. The idea that there's no medical benefits of it just because it's not...
And then they make a pill for it.
They make fucking...
That THC pill, whatever the fuck it's called.
I don't even want to say it because I don't want anybody to buy it.
It's because it's horseshit.
They make a synthetic THC pill which doesn't have nearly the effects of edible cannabis.
That's something that we were talking about before the show where it's like brownies fuck you up.
They don't just fuck you up because weed fucks you up.
They fuck you up because when you eat it, it produces a completely different chemical in your body.
When THC is consumed in an edible form, it produces something called 11-hydroxymetabolite, which is like five times more psychoactive than THC. I believe it.
Yeah, you know why that weird feeling that you get when you eat a brownie?
I'm going to never forget this, man.
My friend Brett had a company What he was trying to do when the medical marijuana movement first started, he had this company that was making THC pills.
And I don't know what he did to fucking get this stuff into a pill form, but he had, this is my strong one and this is my medium one.
If you're gonna take the medium one, only take one.
I'm like, well, why do you have a strong one?
He goes, I don't know.
Eddie Bravo takes both of them.
He takes at least...
He either took two strong ones or two medium ones.
Whatever he did.
I took one.
And maybe an hour and a half later, I was the most uncomfortable I have ever been in my entire life.
Where I was so terrified of everything.
I was looking at people, and they became two-dimensional, and I was seeing their souls peeking behind while they were talking to me.
And it became incredibly psychedelic, way more psychedelic than weed.
And I didn't understand about the 11-hydroxy-metabolite thing then, but I talked to my friend Todd McCormick, who's this medical marijuana activist and professional natural deodorant user.
He was one of the first guys to do time in California because they wouldn't let him use the term medical marijuana.
Even though he was operating under state law, when they bring you to court, because it's a federal trial, they don't even allow you to use the term medical marijuana.
When I first came to LA, I had a girlfriend in New York.
And we were kind of like on the outs when I first moved to LA. And I was figuring out whether or not I should move her in with me or bring her out here or whatever.
And I was out here working on a TV show for like two weeks by myself, just living in the Oakwoods apartment complex.
And I was on the set.
And this girl, she said something the girl I was working with, and we laughed, and she said, oh, give me a hug.
And again, you can't measure it in the fucking milligrams of vitamin C or caffeine or alcohol.
But there was a reaction in my body that was very real when that girl hugged me.
I felt so much better.
And I'll never forget that because I'm like, okay, well I have to realize that this is a real, this is something, there's one more thing that we can't measure in conventional terms but that it actually exists and is tangible in its effect.
I would say before I finish, start the story, that Dave was arrested in Japan, September of 2003. In the same week, I was in jail in LA County, so I guess we were meant to meet each other.
Day apart, 10 years ago, this coming September, we're in jail.
And I called them and find out my dad supposedly killed himself.
So within a couple of days, I flew back to Japan and find out what happened.
Because I saw him six months before, early 2003. I found out that my stepmother was cheating on my dad before marriage, during marriage, and they're in process of getting divorced, but my dad killed himself.
Later on, we don't know for sure if he committed suicide or my stepmother had something to do with his death.
I think if I did it, like my cousin called me like a week later and he was laughing at the phone like, yeah, if you did it for another minute, you probably killed her or whatever.
She ended up going to hospital for like two and a half, three months.
I got that little mallet where Buddhists scoop the water to clean the cemetery.
I grabbed that stuff, just beat him over the head a couple of times, ran down the parking lot, and I saw my stepmother's older sister and her husband, and I started sucker-punching too.
So my aunt, Yoshie, she's the only one, when he started fighting me back, she's the one, she had a cancer, brain cancer actually, but she's the one to interrupt the fight, start punching him and just told me to leave.
And I told my cousin to drive me out of there and he wasn't sure because he want to...
I could talk about this for like hours and hours, but basically I... In much of the same way where I helped, you know, the old people during the earthquake turn their gas off and then went looting.
Like, I have a...
You know, I had a troubled past where, you know...
This is before I got, like, seriously into gambling.
Like, I spent most of my childhood just, like, fighting and getting into all kinds of trouble and doing, like, small-time criminal kind of activities and stuff.
And so when I went to Japan, where it was, like, this society based on, like, honor and, like, you know, the light turns red and then everyone stops walking.
And I was like, whoa, this is fucking crazy.
Like, they, like...
Don't even have locks on their bicycles, because who would steal a bike?
That's not your property.
It's crazy.
You could literally go to Japan and just get on someone's bike.
I was like, this is fucking nuts.
So that's what I did.
I'd go to Japan, I'd steal some guy's bike, and I'd go out all night spray-painting graffiti on everything.
And I would just do it in broad daylight.
No one would stop me.
And then at the end of the day, I'd just go bring the bike back.
You know, my art was getting a lot of recognition out there at the time, so I was going out there like once a year, twice a year.
It is sad, because that's one thing when we were in Japan, some guy was telling me about the same kind of thing, like, You could tell these girls anything.
So after I got to know Yoshi and knowing what a degenerate he is, he's like, hey Dave, they're filming the first Asian American porn where the whole cast is Asian.
And I was like, whoa, that's pretty groundbreaking.
There's no...
Like, it's gay to know what, I guess, when you jerk off to porn, like, I've watched so much porn, I can recognize a guy's penis now.
So Yoshi told me about it, and then we went, yeah, I went to the set of the first, and it was based on a weird Japanese poet or someone, some chick that like cuts off her lover's penis or something.
Like, women that I met that I was, like, genuinely interested in after my seven-year-long relationship.
So I met her on that set, and then I'm like, this chick is fucking rad.
Like, she'll just, like, talk about anything and how she has to, like, wash her butthole out, and it's just, like, not in a gross way, and it's very refreshing to meet someone that's, like, so open and honest about everything.
Yoshi, we're going to bring you out of this funk, but prepare for a fucking avalanche of hate mail from people who don't like dudes stomping women to death, especially when they're in their 50s.
Honestly, if anyone out there wants to sit here and judge Yoshi, think about If there was a person out there that did your family wrong and what you would do to them.
And Yoshi will be at the Ice House in Pasadena this Wednesday night at 10pm along with...
Ian Edwards, along with Brian Redband, along with Adam Hunter, and one of the motherfuckers that I can't remember, and maybe many more, whoever's in town.
The idea of the Ice House, I'll call Fitzsimmons too, see if he's around.
The idea of the Ice House is we just try to put on shows there where we fuck around, have a good time, we use it as sort of a workout room.
The last time I did it, I came up with like 20 minutes of new material.
You guys, these shows are fucking amazing.
They're so fun to do, and it's one of the Best comedy environments on the planet Earth.
It's a club that's been around since 1960, and it's just like, I can't say enough good things about the staff or the owner.
Bob, he's the coolest motherfucker ever.
And to me, it's really important to support places like this because they're very fragile.
There's not a lot of money in owning a comedy club and I want to help these people that think about bailing out.
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I like the design, but you can't buy that one anymore, so you could probably get that shit on eBay.