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Jan. 13, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #71 - Al Madrigal
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al madrigal
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brian redban
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joe rogan
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*music* Throw you in a choke, gun smoke, gun smoke.
Vicky Smokes for Mayor, the Rack Slayer, the hookah layer Relax and take notes While I take totes of the marijuana smoke Throw you in a choke, gun smoke, gun smoke.
Biggie Smokes for mayor, the rap slayer, the hookah layer.
Motherfuckers, say your prayers.
Hail Mary, full of grace.
Smack the bitch in the face, take her Gucci bag, and her North Face off her back.
Japper if she act.
Funny with the money, oh, you got me mistaken, honey.
I don't wanna rape ya, I just We on now?
There we go.
This is Biggie Smalls mixed up with Led Zeppelin.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who did this?
unidentified
Doesn't even say.
joe rogan
It's pretty fucking badass.
brian redban
Yeah, it doesn't even say who did it.
That's weird.
joe rogan
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast.
Our guest today is the one and only Mr. Al Madrigal.
Longtime friend.
Al and I first worked together in San Francisco at the old, old Cops.
al madrigal
Little tiny Cops.
joe rogan
The 150 seater.
Does he even seat 150 feet?
al madrigal
Probably 200 tops.
Tom Sawyer squeezing chairs in.
Really?
Illegally.
joe rogan
I don't think it got that big.
al madrigal
All kinds of fire codes and violations.
joe rogan
Let's say 150 so we don't get anybody in trouble.
But it was a fucking awesome little club.
And then now it's like totally different.
Now it's like this big gigantic thing.
al madrigal
We did New Year's there.
The first New Year's.
Remember that?
We've done a lot of gigs.
joe rogan
We've done a lot of gigs.
al madrigal
San Francisco.
joe rogan
We're going way back to like what?
2000 maybe?
al madrigal
2000 I think.
joe rogan
Something like that?
al madrigal
Yeah.
That's 11 years.
I met you when I had just started to do stand-up comedy a year in.
joe rogan
Yeah, we worked together at the Old Cobbs.
You were funny back then, even.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You little fuck.
al madrigal
It's funny, because I just think I just figured it out.
I just feel like my latest stuff has been clearly...
joe rogan
How many years are you in now?
al madrigal
12 years.
joe rogan
12 years.
That's what they say.
They say 10 years.
It takes 10 years for you to become a real comic.
Yeah.
I'll buy that.
I'll buy that totally.
al madrigal
Or, you know, I heard it put that it takes 7 years to get your law degree, and then another 7 years for you to become a good lawyer.
Right.
So it's like, that's the same thing with stand-up.
joe rogan
Yeah, practicing as a professional comedian for X amount of years, and then, you know, becoming really good at it.
Finding your own space.
Finding who the fuck you are without influence of other comedians, and...
And actually having your real personality be you on stage.
That shit takes a long-ass time.
al madrigal
It really does.
joe rogan
Especially if you're distracted, if you have other things going on.
al madrigal
Oh, and it's easy.
Also, you lose your way as a stand-up, and a lot of guys just stop trying.
joe rogan
My big pitfalls have always been TV shows.
They've been great, like news radio especially.
When I was on news radio, we worked some serious long hours.
al madrigal
So you're working and you're taking away from your stand-up.
You're not able to hit the clubs as much as you like.
I've been on...
I've done...
Six pilots?
And two that made it on the air?
So I know exactly what you're talking about.
Because you're working every single day.
And then we have families.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
And you've got to spend time with them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
And then stand-up gets pushed to three when stand-up is usually number one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Very hard to justify getting on stage all the time.
And for me, I just straight got lazy.
Because not only did I... I did stand-up on the weekends.
I would do like...
al madrigal
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
How dare you, Al Magical.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
brian redban
The funniest ringtone, too.
Oh, by the way, we're sponsored by The Fleshlight.
joe rogan
Yeah, by the way, that's a good reason.
That's why karma.
It's Fleshlight calling.
Tell us.
Yo, bitch, we pay you.
Yeah, we are actually sponsored by The Fleshlight.
If you go to JoeRogan.net and click the link, you get 15% off.
And I endorse it.
It's a fucking good product.
Have you ever used one, buddy?
al madrigal
No, I have not.
joe rogan
No one has had sex with that, so it's clean.
That's the butthole version.
al madrigal
Yeah, great.
joe rogan
Touch that.
It's technology, man.
al madrigal
Oh, my God.
brian redban
Put your finger in it.
al madrigal
It's very plastic-y and realistic.
joe rogan
It's very realistic, right?
al madrigal
Sure, this is a good product.
joe rogan
There's nothing better for beating off.
It's a commitment.
You've got to go out of your way and say, okay, I'm going to fuck this tube now.
al madrigal
With this and the coconut juice, I feel like I learned two great things.
joe rogan
Yeah, C2O sent us a bunch of cases of coconut juice, but I ran out of them.
Sorry, C2O. This is Amy and Brian's.
I had to pay for this shit.
brian redban
Which is really good, too.
joe rogan
They're all good.
They're great.
But C2O gave me some free shit, so props!
But the flashlight, if you go, like I said, if you go to the link on JoeRogan.net, click it, and enter in the code ROGAN, and you get 15% off.
And it's a good product, like I said.
Where is it?
Put that lid on it.
brian redban
Yeah, you got to keep it fresh.
joe rogan
I don't want to get it dusty with cat hairs and shit, man.
I got cats.
brian redban
Yeah, and you're allergic to cats, so you might be...
al madrigal
That's the thing.
It hasn't affected me yet, but there's a very good chance that I could completely lose it and have to be rushed to the hospital.
There's no big deal.
joe rogan
I think that the volcano is going to bypass all that and put it in order for you.
brian redban
Is it a breathing thing, or do you get swollen up?
al madrigal
It's breathing, eyes, throat closes the whole time.
brian redban
Oh, shit.
Mouth-to-mouth resuscitation might be necessary.
joe rogan
In other words, he's a pussy.
al madrigal
Well, that's the thing.
That's what a large part of my act has become about.
joe rogan
Allergies?
al madrigal
Me talking to a cholo, but I have allergies.
No, I do a couple different stories that I have.
There's a cholo soccer dad that I'm talking about and stuff like that.
It's all about me having allergies in front of black people.
joe rogan
Feeling genetically inferior.
al madrigal
Yeah.
Hey, sorry.
joe rogan
Here's a fascinating thing that I read about the H1N1 virus, that flu virus.
They're saying now that the people that survived it, the people that got it and survived it, they have like super immune systems now.
And now they don't get any flus.
They don't get any of the flus.
It's like, and they think that they may be able to come up with a universal vaccine for flus based on the H1N1. Wow.
Based on the people that survived.
Yeah.
Pretty fascinating shit, man.
al madrigal
Yeah, use them all.
joe rogan
It was a motherfucker of a flu.
The thing about those flus is they're getting better.
They're getting stronger.
They evolve just like everything else evolves.
And when these assholes take their fucking medicine, they don't take it all.
This is especially true about antibiotics.
People who get sick and they take antibiotics and they only take it until they feel better, like say if you're supposed to take it for 10 days, the bacteria that survive is like super powerful antibiotic resistant bacteria.
So that becomes like this strain that's almost impossible to kill.
That's where this MRSA shit comes from.
The people are dying from these crazy staph infections.
It's because assholes don't take their fucking pills.
They take like a percentage of them and then they quit.
And they develop this new fucking super virus because of that.
These cunts.
al madrigal
So you gotta finish all your medication.
joe rogan
Finish your medication, bitches.
You're not smarter than the scientists who created this shit.
al madrigal
So what we're asking people to do is use the fleshlight and coconut juice.
joe rogan
Beat off into that shit.
al madrigal
Use your medication.
Take all of it.
joe rogan
Take all that shit.
brian redban
I'm really bad at that.
I admit it.
I get down to the last one or two.
al madrigal
I'm just as guilty as anybody else.
joe rogan
For humanity.
Take that shit.
brian redban
They should give two extra just so I don't take those two.
joe rogan
Oh my god, they should treat you like a child.
brian redban
You know what I mean?
I'd be bad at birth control.
But yeah, they should do it.
al madrigal
Oh, you'd be pregnant for sure.
brian redban
Yeah, I'd be totally knocked up.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
al madrigal
Portions all day long.
joe rogan
You know, they say that a big supply of pharmaceutical drugs are in the water supply.
There's not a big supply, but a big percentage.
There's measurable amounts of everything.
Everything from antidepressants to birth control pills.
al madrigal
In the water supply?
joe rogan
Yeah, because people flush their shit.
People flush their stuff down the toilet.
I mean, that's where your water supply is coming from.
A lot of it's coming from reconstituted poop water.
Sure, sure.
In some places, right?
Isn't that where they get their water supply?
They fucking fix up the poop water.
brian redban
The water doesn't go anywhere.
It's never going to die.
It's the same water.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, how much can you filter out where you're leaving in the birth control pills but giving me no poop?
You're sure there's no poop in this?
There's gotta be some poop in there, you fuck.
al madrigal
I'd like some poop-free water.
joe rogan
Yeah, if the same water is coming our way that birth control pills get into...
Unless I'm ignorant about how birth control pills get into water and they're not being dumped off.
al madrigal
Is the amount of birth pills or anything going into the water system, is that really large enough to affect it?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's a good question, but I would like 0% of birth control pills in my diet.
brian redban
There's no pregnant water anymore, at least.
unidentified
Hmm.
What?
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think, you know, we gotta be real careful about that shit, man.
You know, the idea that water is 96% of our bodies and it's the one thing that we love to throw things into.
It's so fucking stupid.
You know, we need water.
Obviously, humans need water.
But we're always dumping shit in the water because it's so easy.
We're such cunts.
brian redban
Especially Al.
Al does that all the time.
al madrigal
I do a lot of, like, vigilante dumping.
joe rogan
Just dumping oil and shit.
al madrigal
No, or, you know, I say I'm guilty because when I see a dumpster near my house, I'm like, I gotta put a fucking nut chair in there.
joe rogan
Well, there's nothing wrong with that.
al madrigal
That's not throwing things in the ocean.
All countries in these companies are actually fucking...
Oh, you know that 1-800-JUNK? What is that?
brian redban
Yeah.
al madrigal
That's where the new trucks, they come and get your shit.
They're shipping it to fucking China, where they're paying for cheap landfill.
So huge, huge, like, secret in the night fucking barges full of our shit.
It shows up in China and there's just landfill all over the place.
And so, I mean, us flushing pills down there, I mean, that's the least of our trouble.
It's all these foreign countries that don't have any fucking laws that are just allowing you to dump and bury and fucking there's toxic waste that we're shipping over there.
It's horrible.
joe rogan
Dude, China is crazy.
They developed some new eco-city.
It's fucking fantastical.
Have you seen this thing?
al madrigal
No.
joe rogan
It's on my Twitter.
Brian, have you seen it?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
joe rogan
I posted it.
Someone tweeted it and I retweeted it.
It's pretty fucking amazing, man.
There's this new city that they have.
It looks like some gigantic future space, solar-powered greenhouse of a city.
It's like they have glass domes over buildings.
al madrigal
It's fascinating.
China's Pauly Shore running around inside.
brian redban
Look at it.
It's like The Simpsons.
joe rogan
What is the title of the article so someone can Google if they want to Google it?
brian redban
What does it say?
al madrigal
Teixin EcoCity in China.
You can just type in EcoCity in China.
joe rogan
EcoCity in China will find it.
brian redban
Forget that first word.
joe rogan
It's an amazing world we live in.
al madrigal
We can just do that.
joe rogan
How fucking cool is that?
You can just type that into a box and it just gives you the instant information.
al madrigal
Instant information.
joe rogan
Instant.
We don't even realize how crazy that is.
brian redban
Why is there college anymore?
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
Just a way to torture you.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Get you to go somewhere and fuck.
al madrigal
There's a commercial on right now where they're doing that.
You just see families sitting around a phone and they look over and they see just B actors who they don't know who exactly it is.
And it says, it says his name is so-and-so.
And these people are just Googling and getting instant information on the spot when they need it.
And that's totally what we're doing.
My phone is fantastic.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
al madrigal
That's when people have their phones on in comedy shows.
I say, I realize that's a fascinating device.
I mean, I have one.
I fucking look at it all the time and I love it.
But now's not the time to have it, so just put it in.
That's my first one.
joe rogan
Do you wig out on people that film you?
al madrigal
I make them stop a lot.
joe rogan
Some people are just so blatant with it.
They're like sitting right in the front row and they're pointing a camera at you and filming.
al madrigal
Just flip video camera just straight up.
joe rogan
This is so silly.
al madrigal
I usually point it out, but sometimes people don't care.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want to go just enjoy the fucking moment.
Enjoy the show.
Everything doesn't have to go on YouTube.
al madrigal
I do the Laugh Factory and you're standing on the stage and there's two monitors on the side.
You've done that, Chloe.
Sure.
unidentified
Sometimes I look in the audience and people are watching me on the fucking monitor.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
It's like, I'm going here, lady.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's weird.
People do that at the UFC all the time, too.
They watch the fights on the monitor.
brian redban
Yeah.
al madrigal
It's in front of you.
joe rogan
Wow, happening.
I see that.
I do that sometimes ringside.
I catch myself doing that.
al madrigal
Dude, replay.
joe rogan
On cage side, the guys are fighting five feet in front of me and I'm looking at this little 13-inch monitor in front of me.
al madrigal
Well, sometimes you get a better perspective.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why I'm doing it.
But it's still funny that I'm doing it.
al madrigal
Yeah, you're right there.
joe rogan
It's right there and I'm watching a TV. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
brian redban
I like it on the UFC just because it's like the different camera angles, especially when you get on the ground, you can't see anything on the floor.
Close, yeah.
joe rogan
Totally, yeah.
That's where it's real confusing, too, if you're in the stands and you don't have commentary.
Like, a lot of times you don't see what guys are going for, you don't see how a guy's trying to set something up, you know?
brian redban
You just went to your first UFC, right?
al madrigal
My very first one was the Las Vegas Poms.
joe rogan
Yeah, real recently.
Spike's Fight Night.
Spike Fight Night.
Couldn't get it out.
What it is is the finals of The Ultimate Fighter.
al madrigal
Jason Tebow was around.
He got a ticket from you and he sat closer.
He was just texting us constantly saying who he was sitting next to.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
He was like a little girl.
al madrigal
Rampage was behind him.
And he goes, I'm in front of Rampage!
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
al madrigal
He just couldn't believe, you know, so he was all about his location.
Very funny guy.
brian redban
He was like a little kid in a candy store, he said.
He was just loving life.
al madrigal
He dressed up, he wore a blazer.
Yeah, he wore a blazer.
brian redban
And rainbow socks.
al madrigal
Great job.
joe rogan
Teb's a good dude.
brian redban
He's a good dude.
al madrigal
Very funny, too.
joe rogan
Very funny guy.
Very smart guy.
al madrigal
And he's been around for a long time.
unidentified
Yeah.
al madrigal
And hilarious.
joe rogan
Frustrating when, you know, you see a guy like that that's not getting anywhere and you're like, how come?
You know, what's going on?
Yeah, what's happening?
Why isn't Teb famous, you know?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Strange world we live in.
This comedy world.
So when I met you, you'd only been doing it, like, what, two years?
al madrigal
Even less than that.
joe rogan
Less than that?
Wow, dude.
I met you in a day, son.
al madrigal
And then you recommended me for the comedy store.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
al madrigal
It's all right.
It was you and Freddie Soto.
And I was like, oh, this is the best!
How can I go in?
And then we were doing the Fridays and Saturday nights there until everything blew up over there.
And then I've worked with you quite a bit.
joe rogan
A lot of comedy store gigs, man.
Yeah.
al madrigal
And you used to have that, you put in the recorder, what I always appreciated, that Joe bought a digital recorder, not a digital, a CD burner for the club.
And so I'd go in there with a CD just constantly on a Friday night and just show up and handle my CD. I have all the...
joe rogan
Well, I had three different things that I bought.
I started out with a DAT player, a DAT recorder.
I had digital audio tape installed there.
But the problem with that is that no one had a DAT player.
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
So then I said, okay, we'll get mini-disc because that seems like a good format.
But the problem was mini-disc died out.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
So then I switched it to CD. It was awesome.
So I put three different systems in there.
al madrigal
The CD and then you had all of those live moments that you never really get on a comedy album.
joe rogan
Yeah, all recorded at the comedy store.
Yeah, it was perfect.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you know, it's just like we needed to have it there and there was a budget issue.
al madrigal
Yeah.
brian redban
At least the comedy store appreciated you after you did all these nice things.
joe rogan
Well, Mitzi did.
The real comedy store did.
That was where my loyalty was in the first place.
al madrigal
Now they're putting it in a kitchen oven.
I would actually know that.
Good.
joe rogan
Good place to get food poisoning.
brian redban
20 years too late.
What the fuck?
You know how much money they lost for not having just nachos?
joe rogan
Yeah, but you know what, dude?
This is a comedy story.
This is who it's supposed to be.
The real issue there was that they stopped nurturing good comedy, and they had a lot of the issues that Al and I were talking about right before the show that he's dealing with there right now.
They don't have the right intentions.
They're not looking out for comedy.
They're not even looking out for the club anymore.
They're just looking out for short dollars.
They're looking out for what's going to work and what's going to get them money right now.
al madrigal
Yeah.
It's tough because I really, I mean, on those Friday and Saturdays, I remember those.
I honestly want some of the best nights.
You were there for all of them.
Some of the best nights that I've ever had as a comic.
That place packed.
And it's like that old Cobbs that you were talking about.
When you get that 150 to 200 seater just really packed, that's a great...
joe rogan
That was a fun gig, man, because when I was doing Fear Factor, I couldn't really travel.
And so I just set up shop at the comedy store.
And I set it up so that...
I paid for everything.
I paid for the sound system.
I advertised everything on MySpace.
I never asked for a dime.
Packed the place every weekend and worked totally for free.
And when that was happening, man, that was the most fun time ever for comedy for me.
We had some good times.
unidentified
Crazy weekends.
joe rogan
Crazy weekends.
At least 10 times I bought the entire audience's shots.
brian redban
Oh yeah, that's crazy.
I forgot about that.
Remember that?
The whole audience had shots.
joe rogan
Whenever I would kick somebody out, I would go, look, I know that we just went through this douchey moment together, but we can change this.
We can get out of this feeling.
I know this feels terrible.
We had some drunk assholes yelling things and they got kicked out.
And everybody feels weird, like, what the fuck, man?
And there's a few people going, oh, they paid too.
unidentified
Stop!
joe rogan
Those are douchebags, right?
We're not douchebags.
We're going to change all this shit.
So I would like to buy you guys a drink, everybody, and kind of bring the mood back.
And everybody would cheer.
And we'd all wait.
I would say that's the one thing that we've got to wait.
We've got to wait.
And everybody waited, man.
Every time.
We never had an issue with people drinking their shots.
brian redban
Early.
joe rogan
The waitresses, they hustled, they came back and forth.
They had to do like fucking 10, 15 trips, you know, with big trays full of shots.
But we gave shots to everybody that wanted them.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Probably a few alcoholics fell off the wagon.
Probably a few guys were like, well, fuck it, man.
He's giving me a shot.
I don't want to be a dick.
And next thing he's blacked out with his pants down.
al madrigal
You know, a lot of people say, shots for everybody.
But that was a shitload of people.
joe rogan
It was thousands of dollars every time.
al madrigal
It wasn't shots for everybody and there was 10 people there in the bar.
That's what shots for everybody in a big fucking room.
joe rogan
But it worked, though.
It totally restored the vibe.
Because first of all, everybody knew that I was paying for it.
So it was going to cost real money.
And it was just all for the vibe to fix it because we can.
That was the whole attitude about it.
And that should be the attitude of comedy.
It's about getting into it and finding what's fucking fun about it.
And taking everybody to what's fun.
And when you have an opportunity to correct the vibe of the room.
You know, if you can do it like that, that's really what it's all about, right?
brian redban
Now, Al, you said you used to do a podcast like five years ago when the podcast first came out, and those were really big back in the day, and they kind of died.
al madrigal
Yeah, there was like a podcast.
What was it called?
You know, it was four years ago.
I don't even know what it was.
joe rogan
You don't know your own podcast is called?
al madrigal
I did 17 episodes.
joe rogan
That's a lot.
al madrigal
Do you think it's a lot?
joe rogan
I did a TV show in 1994. I only did six episodes.
I can tell you a lot about it.
al madrigal
It was, it was, we had sort of many names for the thing, but it was the, I did it with Peter Murrieta, a comedy writer, and so it was just, he's half Mexican and I'm half Mexican, and it was two.
joe rogan
Combining full China, together you were one Mexican.
al madrigal
It was called the two, yeah, one Mexican.
joe rogan
Together we are one Mexican.
That would be a good name for it.
al madrigal
Together one Mexican.
joe rogan
Together we are one Mexican.
al madrigal
And we still don't speak Spanish.
joe rogan
You don't speak anything?
al madrigal
No, not really.
It's horrible.
joe rogan
Beaners must get mad at you.
al madrigal
Yeah, it's...
Like I said, just like the allergies put me...
I'm in a weird spot with the big guy with the Laker jersey.
joe rogan
The big guys with the Laker jersey.
al madrigal
You know, and that's my problem also, is that they...
In LA, they segment you.
When I was working with Joe in San Francisco when we first started, I didn't even know I was a Latino comic.
I was just a comic.
And then you move down to LA, and immediately I got put in this HBO Aspen comedy thing where it was me, Jeff Garcia, Freddy Soto, Willie Barsena, all these guys together.
joe rogan
They're like, get on the bus, Vic.
al madrigal
Yeah, and they gave me a tin of Red Hots.
They brought me a tin of Red Hots.
And they said, this is for you.
It says HBO Latino on it.
And this guy, Mateo, comes up and goes, my name is Mateo.
Can I interview you in Spanish?
You know, and shit like that.
I was like, yeah, you can fucking try.
It's not going to work out, Mateo.
I don't know why.
I'm not a Latino comic.
I'm just a fucking comic.
And I went to my friend, Becky Pettigo.
unidentified
I was like, they give you a hat, and they give me fucking Red Hots.
Yeah.
al madrigal
I'm not with these guys.
And I looked at her and I swear to God.
joe rogan
I'm not with these guys.
al madrigal
I said, I said, I looked at her and I go, I'm a Mexican comedian.
unidentified
I swear to God.
al madrigal
And I was like, I just learned it.
unidentified
Oh, no.
al madrigal
And so I did the sets.
And that's weird for me because, you know, it's just like you sort of get put in that group and they all sort of make funny.
I did New Year's.
joe rogan
Did they make fun of you?
Like the real Mexican comics?
al madrigal
Dude, I remember walking up to, you know how those comedy breakdance circles form?
A group of comics standing in a circle.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
al madrigal
And I do CTV, the Latino comedy festival on TV show for CTV, a shitty wannabe English-speaking Latino station.
I think still exists.
And it's really tiny at the time.
So they're doing stand-up.
And I stand up in there with this guy Rick Gutierrez and all these Mexican comics.
And they're talking about how him and Gabriel live together and they don't go on the road.
They're on the road so much that no one's ever at their house.
And I look at them and I go, wow, must have a lot of dead plants.
unidentified
And then the guy looks at me and goes, we don't have any plants, bro.
al madrigal
What are you talking about?
We don't have any plants, bro.
unidentified
What the fuck?
al madrigal
No plants?
That's how I feel around all these guys.
I got made fun of every night over New Year's by a comic that I was supposed to co-headline with.
I'll never do another Latino show again.
joe rogan
You got made fun of?
al madrigal
Yeah, I was supposed to co-headline.
joe rogan
Who is it?
al madrigal
It's fucking Willie.
joe rogan
Willie Barsan made fun of you?
unidentified
Yeah.
al madrigal
Well, he didn't think he was making fun of me, but we had a conversation about it, and I felt like he was just...
He kept bringing up my name, like, saying...
And he actually said this at one point.
He goes, I don't want my kids to grow up like Al, you know?
Like, all scared.
joe rogan
Whoa!
al madrigal
And she was talking about me and doing the whole, my name is Al Madrigal and I'm a Latino.
Like, okay, I fucking get it.
I talk about myself and I'm self-deprecating.
So we were doing the New Year's countdown and he was off on his time.
He started trying to do the countdown five minutes early.
Everybody has fucking cell phones.
They call him on, you know, they're like, no, it's not it!
What are you doing?
And so he has to wait.
And then he yells to the back of the room to the manager at the sack punch.
He goes, you trying to humiliate me, bro, up here on stage?
And I grabbed the back mic, flipped it on really quick, and I go, what's the matter, Willie?
Don't like being humiliated on stage?
Does that fucking get to you?
And he's like this badass.
He's like an East L.A. street fighter that's killed people.
And then he goes, we had a problem, bro.
unidentified
And he goes, I love Willie.
al madrigal
And I go, look Willie.
And I made him understand.
I go, I get just as angry as you do, but I don't have the fighting ability.
Do you understand me?
I go, I'm just as fired up as you've killed guys, you know, and fucking annihilated people.
And I don't have the ability to do that, but I still feel fucking angry as shit.
joe rogan
So you got angry at him saying that you were scared on stage, that he was talking shit about you on stage.
al madrigal
I just don't like when any comic brings up to your next comic before them and starts really fucking referring to somebody, you know, and...
Derogatory.
Yeah, he was using me as an example of what...
joe rogan
But what if you were really good friends with them and you were joking around with them, like...
I have friends and they go on after each other and joke around about each other.
Joey will go on after Ari and talk about Ari being a Jew.
al madrigal
But how well do those guys know each other?
joe rogan
Real good.
I always make fun of Joey.
But it's like...
al madrigal
Oh, no.
Then it's all about the relationship.
I totally get that.
joe rogan
So your relationship, it's more like he's actually mocking you.
al madrigal
Yeah, I think it really fucking means it.
joe rogan
I don't want my kids to grow up like you all scared.
al madrigal
At Montreal in 2002, and I've told him this story, and we've talked about it, and I walked up to him, and he was the only other non-white, you know, like, he's the only Latino guy there, and I don't know anybody, and I waved to him.
I go, hey, Willie!
Hey, nice to meet you.
Al Madrigal.
And he looked at me and goes, you don't even say your own last name right, bro.
Like, I'm talking Wow.
joe rogan
How are you supposed to say it?
al madrigal
Like Madrigal.
unidentified
Wow.
al madrigal
You're supposed to really...
joe rogan
Could you imagine if you really did that though and rolled your tongue and everything?
You'd be committed to every other word.
al madrigal
Yeah, exactly.
You can't just do it for that.
Yeah.
You can't just roll the name and not roll anything.
joe rogan
Well, when I was in college, you went to Tijuana.
al madrigal
What?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Oh, excuse me.
Tijuana.
Tijuana.
Yeah, you got to commit.
When I do the weigh-ins and I have to pronounce dudes' names, I have to decide whether or not I want to commit to that super Spanish way of saying things, you know?
al madrigal
And there's a lot of Mexicans in the UFC, right?
joe rogan
Sure, yeah, yeah.
It's the correct way to say it.
But it's like, you know, like, Montreal is how we say it.
But they say Montreal.
They say Montreal.
So really, you should say Montreal.
Like, who the fuck are you to say Montreal?
That's not their city, asshole.
al madrigal
I used to get pissed when people say Frisco and shit like that.
joe rogan
You did?
al madrigal
No San Franciscan likes Stug and Frisco.
joe rogan
You're really, like, touchy.
al madrigal
Oh, San Fran.
joe rogan
You used to get pissed at them calling it San Fran?
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no.
al madrigal
I'm just saying as a native...
joe rogan
Do you prefer Faggotville?
al madrigal
Yeah.
I do.
joe rogan
What is the most derogatory name to think about San Francisco?
al madrigal
No, I'm just saying when you're calling it the wrong thing and you're a local, you know...
I mean, no one's expected to pronounce everything correctly.
joe rogan
By the way, I'm not saying faggot anymore.
brian redban
Out of retirement.
joe rogan
It's an example of a derogatory thing that's someone else.
Yeah, I totally stopped saying faggot.
Did you hear that Toronto is censoring the Mark Knopfler song, the Dire Straits song?
What is that song?
The Rockstar song?
What is that fucking song?
God damn it.
brian redban
It's Dire Straits.
joe rogan
You don't know who Dire Straits is?
Money for Nothing.
Money for Nothing and Chicks for Free?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Because that song has the word faggot in it three times.
brian redban
Oh, you little faggot.
joe rogan
With his own jet airplane.
That little faggot, he's a millionaire.
brian redban
Damn, I forgot about that.
That shit was on the radio.
joe rogan
So just the city of Toronto, that's it?
Well, no, it was in Toronto.
It was in the newspaper in Toronto.
And they've decided, I guess in Canada, to start censoring that song.
At least in Canada.
I mean, I don't know if they do in America.
al madrigal
When they play it on classic rock.
joe rogan
It's tricky.
It's tricky, man, because, I mean, that is a gay slur, and it's on a major song that's on the TV. That was a very popular song.
al madrigal
Remember, that was one of the first music videos, too.
brian redban
Yeah, it was on TV. It was like 3D animation.
al madrigal
I don't think they said faggot on the...
joe rogan
Yes, they did.
brian redban
Yeah, they did.
al madrigal
On the popular version?
joe rogan
Yeah, absolutely.
On the television version, on the radio version.
brian redban
Oh, we could look up the MTV video right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's look up the MTV video.
Let's not listen to it, though, because it's really not that good.
al madrigal
No, no, no, no.
joe rogan
You know, they had some killer songs, but that wasn't one of them.
That was just so poppy.
al madrigal
That was one of the old videos where they had like neon flashing in the background.
You know what's dope?
joe rogan
Roller Girl.
You ever heard that song Roller Girl from Dire Straits?
brian redban
No, but Roller Girl from Boogie Nights.
joe rogan
You like that shit?
Apparently that bitch is crazy.
al madrigal
Oh, she just did the hangover.
joe rogan
Yeah?
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
She was a hooker.
al madrigal
Yeah, she was a hooker.
That's a good roll.
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard she's off the charts crazy.
I love people like that.
Just like knowing they're out there.
Dire Straits.
al madrigal
It's not fun.
joe rogan
Do they have it?
brian redban
Skate Away, Dire Straits Skate Away.
joe rogan
That could be it.
brian redban
Yeah, Skate Away.
joe rogan
Let's say.
al madrigal
Skateaway?
Didn't he say Roller Girl?
joe rogan
Yeah, this is it.
This is a song from my childhood, man.
This is a song from...
I mean, I might have been like fucking 13 or 12 or some shit when this song was out.
They're brilliant musicians, man.
It's like...
It's a different kind of rock and roll.
al madrigal
They were really big, too.
It's not like this is some...
joe rogan
No, they were huge, bro.
unidentified
They were huge.
joe rogan
They were huge.
When I was in high school, Dire Straits were gigantic.
unidentified
That was...
It's a cool video, too.
brian redban
Is that a Walkman she has on?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a giant, man.
unidentified
The biggest Walkman.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a cassette.
unidentified
The cars do the usual dances.
Same old cruise in the curbside crawl.
The roll of guns, he's taking chances.
Just love to see her take them all.
No fear alone at night, she's sailing through the crowd.
In her ears, it's bones are tight and the music's playing loud.
al madrigal
Yeah, I don't know.
brian redban
I'm not really feeling this song.
Are you guys?
joe rogan
Yes.
Love it.
How dare you, Brian.
brian redban
That girl needs to skate away from me.
unidentified
She's ugly.
joe rogan
She's living in 1979, dude.
They didn't have makeup back then.
They used to dress themselves up with flowers.
brian redban
Yeah, clown makeup it looks like.
unidentified
You know she used to have to waitin' around.
She used to be the lonely one.
joe rogan
This is a window to another world, bro.
This is a different era.
That's how crazy this fucking world is evolving and how quickly.
Look at that big stupid Walkman she's got on.
You know, her giant stupid headsets.
All those stupid headsets, big ones like we're wearing right now, they've made a comeback because of those beats.
al madrigal
Dr. Dre.
unidentified
Yeah, everybody wants to pretend they're a fucking DJ. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna get a real good sample of this music, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I need full coverage of my ears, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I gotta hear the whole song.
I gotta hear the dirty shit in the background, you know what I'm saying?
al madrigal
I've got the Bose noise-canceling ones for airplanes.
joe rogan
Those are dope.
Yeah, the Beats ones, I have those.
They cancel the noise, too.
It's nice.
brian redban
I like how rap battles have moved on to headphones now, because it's like you've got the Dr. Dre ones now, and I think 50 Cent has...
joe rogan
Luda.
Luda just came out with his own shit.
al madrigal
Why not?
Everybody should have their own headphones.
joe rogan
I want my own headphones.
That would be cool.
al madrigal
I think it's an easy company startup.
joe rogan
A little alien logo on the headphones.
brian redban
You can smoke them when you're done listening.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
We could store a stash, like there's an extra battery area.
al madrigal
Everybody that listens to the show would have a set of those Joe Rogan headphones.
joe rogan
That would be weird.
That would be step one of the cult.
Step one.
Step two, purple Nikes.
Step three, alien logo tattooed somewhere in your body.
Step four, try DMT. Step five.
brian redban
Have you embraced Twitter, Al?
Are you on that thing?
Are you addicted to it?
al madrigal
You know what?
I read a lot more than I post.
joe rogan
Someone's a lurker.
al madrigal
I'm not that much of a little guy.
joe rogan
So tell me this problem that you were having at the comedy store that you were talking about.
al madrigal
Well, you know, it's...
I guess when you stay in one place for too long, it's with your job or with anything else.
You just start to realize that the people...
If you start associating with the same people over and over again, sometimes it gets a little negative...
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
There's always been a real negative vibe there.
But the stage time is amazing.
And we just were talking about all the good times.
joe rogan
It's like running with weights on.
al madrigal
Yeah.
That's what we talked about.
joe rogan
We had some great times there.
Definitely.
al madrigal
Working out there is harder than working out anywhere else.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
I think Blaine Kompatch, who's a very funny comedian, said, if comedy clubs were a video game, Then the Comedy Store would be one of the hardest levels.
brian redban
Boss level.
al madrigal
Boss level.
And then you'd go like Laugh Factory Improv.
And then when you get down easy, it would be like the UCB and all those things.
Because they're very, very supportive and smart.
And everyone's paying attention.
And at the Comedy Store, I have Russian guys yelling out at you constantly.
And so...
joe rogan
But you know what, though?
The sad part about this store is when it reveals its true side.
When someone goes up who's not good and kills.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Someone goes up with some really dumb, hacky shit and they destroy.
al madrigal
That's what I was talking about.
joe rogan
And then you go, oh, you guys aren't cool.
No.
You're just in the dark.
al madrigal
That's what I was talking about.
joe rogan
You're just dummies in the dark.
al madrigal
It sort of makes you feel bad about yourself when you go up and you think you had a good set.
And then just the worst comic in the world goes up fucking two, three after you and just murders.
joe rogan
Well, you know, that's a symptom of what you were talking about with like the UCB. Well, the UCB is very well organized.
They've got a very clear ethic.
They're trying to, you know, put out good art.
They're trying to put out good comedy to support it.
You know, it's like it's very obvious what they're up to.
And so because of that, that's the kind of crowd they attract.
The Comedy Store is just, people are just walking by, you know, and they've heard the name, and they stumble in, and they don't know any better, or they know who's up.
al madrigal
It's dark and poorly advertised.
joe rogan
Or it could be, hey, Al Magical, put it on Twitter, he's gonna be at the Comedy Store tonight, let's go down and check it out.
But it's like, you get such a hodgepodge.
It is like a vortex of crazy people.
For whatever reason, crazy people are drawn to that spot.
I don't want to believe in energy.
I don't want to believe in any of that fucking crystal-sucking astrological bullshit.
I don't want to believe in that.
I want to take things on face value.
But if ever there was some evidence for a place having crazy energy and having a weird attraction to it...
That fucking comedy store was it, man.
al madrigal
I'm the same way.
I feel like I don't believe in any of that crap.
But if there was ever a place for that to exist, it would have to be.
Something weird is happening.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe its effects are over-exaggerated.
You can't only have shitty times at a place like that.
But when you find out the history of that place, and you know that it was Bugsy Siegel's nightclub...
Back in the Prohibition days.
Abortion doctors.
Yeah, who said that?
Eliza Schlesinger said they were doing abortions in the basement.
But we always get into the subject about how fucking crazy that place is and how creepy it is.
But they kill people there, for sure.
And maybe there's like a little shred of that that's still in the room.
brian redban
It's no funny bone.
There's no corporate comedy club that's a little bit different.
al madrigal
There's no animated microphone with another microphone standing in the background.
joe rogan
Showing you who's coming up next week.
That's the other thing.
When you get used to being in other clubs, you get used to working for the improv, and you see how fucking organized they are.
They have posters of guys that are going to be there next week with supporting acts.
The show times and they have a, you know, online where you can buy tickets.
It's all on the poster.
And they're just like way in advance.
You go to the store, there's a piece of paper that fucking Tommy's got spilled coffee on, you know, and has everybody's name written on it.
You know, and if you call in and you ask, oh, who's up tonight?
unidentified
They're like, um, um, who's up?
joe rogan
Where's the fucking list?
unidentified
Um, it's like nobody, nobody knows what's going on.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But at one point in time, yeah, he wants to know if you're sucking cocks too.
That's what he asked Brian.
Brian, I'm sucking cocks.
unidentified
Yeah, I get off stage and he goes, you're sucking cocks now too?
brian redban
Fucking work for Joe Rogan.
Fucking just went off on me.
I had like a good set and I get off stage Tommy and he just goes crazy on me.
Just saying I was gay and I was using the comedy store and I was a spy and I was sucking dicks and just fucking non-stop crazy shit.
al madrigal
Why did you get off stage and ask me, you're sucking dicks?
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
What the fuck is that?
brian redban
Well, what's funny is...
al madrigal
I don't want to be greeted like that ever.
brian redban
I know.
It's bad.
And what sucked is like...
unidentified
It's so cool.
brian redban
What's funny is I got off stage and I was just feeling so happy and good.
And then when he did that to me, I was like, oh, why are you doing this to me?
joe rogan
He buzzkilled you, dude.
He buzzkilled you.
brian redban
Yeah, but after talking to a lot of comics, I guess that's just what he does.
And he's trying to scare you into things.
joe rogan
So he's using intimidation tactics?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
She just swung on him.
When a dude does that, you swing on him, you put your dick in his face.
Just pull your dick out.
You hold him down, you pull your dick out, and just rub it all over his face.
Don't you ever fucking do that to me again.
al madrigal
I have thoughts like that constantly.
That's what makes me sort of dangerous.
I just gotta go in.
joe rogan
You gotta develop a good mount.
al madrigal
I just gotta go and do my job and get the fuck out.
You know what I'm talking about?
joe rogan
Talking about rubbing your dick on his face.
al madrigal
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, there's a lot of negative energy in that place.
What you were talking about before that you don't want to talk about, obviously.
There's a new comedy thief at the comedy store, a guy that got kicked out of the Ha Ha Cafe, and he's another one of these guys that's blatantly on purpose looking to steal people's material and use it.
al madrigal
Yeah, but I have to be very clear, and I don't even want to get involved.
joe rogan
I don't even care.
Well, we're not even going to bring the guy's name up.
We don't even have to bring his name up.
That's not the issue.
What I was talking about was how the club justified it, and how they actually told you when you brought the guy's name up that he's not bad looking on the eyes.
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's actually a Tommy quote, right?
Yeah.
Whoopsies.
Sorry.
brian redban
Yeah, this is what he said to me.
So you're a comic now?
And I said, yeah, I try.
And he goes, you working for Joe Rogan still?
Yeah.
I still work for him.
You suck cock now, too?
al madrigal
What?
brian redban
And then I wrote, I said, don't go together.
unidentified
If you need to repeat that, you're working for Joe Rogan, you suck cock now.
joe rogan
And Brian said, yeah, two.
brian redban
I said, yeah, I suck two cocks.
unidentified
Two.
al madrigal
Three, four cocks.
brian redban
And then he goes, you come with me at this criticism.
You go on stage and you work for that phony fuck.
And it's just like, where is this coming from?
al madrigal
They just really took the wrong sides.
And this whole thing is about them making the wrong choices, you know, just throughout.
Look, they give me a lot of...
joe rogan
It's negative energy, man.
That's why they have to do it.
They're sucked into their own suck.
al madrigal
But then I got my ankle weights, and I want to go.
I can wear...
joe rogan
You don't have to, though.
It's not necessary.
My act got a lot better as soon as I stopped being there.
I got less angry.
And I think some of my comedy was being formed by the energy in that place.
There's a lot of great things about that place, but...
It's dark.
brian redban
I love hanging out there.
I love it just because of the people.
But other than that, if they all hung out at fucking Waffle House, I'd be there.
joe rogan
Brian, you remember that time we were filming and that hooker came back and just started talking to us about the business and how she meets guys and how she sets it up?
It was pretty crazy, man.
Out of nowhere.
This girl just came up to us and she seemed fairly normal, right?
She didn't seem totally crazy.
She was just having a good time like everybody else.
Then she starts talking about being a hooker.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brian redban
I run into hookers a lot more often than I thought I would ever run into hookers.
They just come up and start talking to you, and they act normal.
They don't say that they're a hooker.
You think, oh, this girl's talking to me.
And then suddenly she slips into she's a hooker.
al madrigal
Sneaky little hooker.
joe rogan
Well, think of the world that you travel in, though.
You travel in a very interesting world.
I mean, if you looked at your life from any other part of the world, you take some guy from Idaho and say, hey, I'm going to hang out with this guy.
What are you going to do today?
Well, I'm going to hang out with this girl.
She's a penthouse pet of the year.
We're going to go to this porn awards party.
And then we're going to go to the improv where there's a naughty show and a bunch of porn stars are going to go up.
And then I'm going to hang out with some stand-up comedian friends of mine and we're going to smoke a lot of pot.
al madrigal
It's an interesting lifestyle.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
This is your life?
al madrigal
I want to go.
joe rogan
This is crazy, man.
al madrigal
Do you want to have a tag along?
unidentified
I should have gone to college, I guess.
joe rogan
Then you'd be out of work.
al madrigal
You sort of do look into your life and you're like, how did I end up doing a job?
joe rogan
But that's why there's so many hookers in your life is what I'm trying to tell you.
You're traveling in strange circles.
brian redban
I'm definitely hooker material.
joe rogan
Not that there's anything wrong with being a hooker, man.
A buddy of mine was talking to me about this Thai massage place that he goes to, and they give you a real Thai massage, and then they jerk you off.
And he talked about it like it was the greatest meal.
You know, like I would talk to you about a certain steakhouse that knows exactly How to fucking cook a good piece of meat where you cut into that medium rare and the outside is just crispy, but the inside is juicy and delicious and warm and the fucking blood from the meat just fires up your synapses.
That's how this guy talked about getting jerked off by this Thai lady.
He was talking about it like it was the most amazing thing.
He goes, somebody told me to go to this place.
I didn't think it was that kind of place because it looked like a real place.
And he goes, and I go in there...
And I'm going, well, obviously, I'm not going to pull my pants down because this is a legit place.
I'm getting a real massage.
Like, they're giving him a real massage.
They're stretching him out, they're rubbing him down, elbows in, muscles loosening, all that thing.
He's like, I'm getting a legit massage.
There's no way this St. Broad's jerking me off.
And then at the end, after like 40 minutes of that, she's like, so, does that feel good to you?
And he's like, get the fuck out of here.
This is a fantasy.
She starts rubbing his leg.
Yeah.
You know, do you want anything more?
Do you want anything more?
And the next thing you know, she like glances over his dick and he arches his back like towards her hand as she glances over his dick and then she just gets, that's the green light, she gets a hold of it, pulls out the lotion, starts rubbing his balls, jerks him off, bam, done.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It's like 40 bucks.
unidentified
Wow.
al madrigal
I've gone to a place like that, and the chick turned to me.
She's going to ask you if you want the extra parts, because a lot of them Abby charge more.
So she looks at me and she leans in and goes, do you want me to make banana cry?
unidentified
Whoa!
I said, what are you fucking saying to me?
al madrigal
Banana feels bad about himself just being in here.
brian redban
Banana cry.
joe rogan
So she offered?
al madrigal
Yeah, offered banana cry.
joe rogan
And you said no?
al madrigal
Well, you know, since having...
Yeah, my daughter sort of spoiled me for a lot of fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah, porn too, right?
al madrigal
A little bit.
joe rogan
Yeah, me a lot.
Strip clubs, porn, all that.
It's not the same anymore.
al madrigal
No, it's not.
I mean, it used to be.
I would go out all the time.
I'd be there.
joe rogan
Before you have babies, you look at them, and I used to look at them as, this is a really hot check.
Like, wow, look at that body.
Look at that ass.
Now I go, why is she dancing?
Probably because her dad didn't love her.
brian redban
Yeah.
al madrigal
And I'm going to love my daughter.
joe rogan
Fuck.
al madrigal
I'm going to be a better dad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
And also, yeah.
And also the germ factor and shit, too.
Like, these chicks are rubbing up on fucking all these dudes.
I can't...
When I go to a...
If they try to put you in a comedy condo, I would start...
I won't allow it.
Because I start thinking about fucking Mark Curry rubbing one out on the couch.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Mark Curry?
Why Mark Curry hanging with Mr. Cooper?
al madrigal
Dude, you look at the lineup and you go, oh my god, that guy was fucking here.
joe rogan
Mark Curry would be the least of my worries.
He's a cool dude.
al madrigal
Yeah, no, I love Mark Curry, but I'm just using him as an example of somebody just randomly in there.
joe rogan
I would go with Barry Diamond.
al madrigal
Barry Diamond just...
joe rogan
Barry Diamond shooting loads all over the couch.
al madrigal
Screaming, applying tanning cream.
unidentified
He didn't have lotion, so he used his bronzer.
It's fucking...
joe rogan
He wants this dark fucking mahogany looking dick.
al madrigal
Because he never has lotion, so he has to use tanning lotion.
joe rogan
So his dick is orange.
His dick is like a giant carrot.
Like oompa loompa orange.
Like a dirty carrot.
Yeah, there's always that one dude that you know could have stayed the country.
al madrigal
I'm surprised there's not more comedy porno.
I know there is some of it, but I don't know how many people want to watch it, but I'm surprised.
brian redban
Like comics?
joe rogan
Mix comedy and porno together?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you know, what's his face?
Thomas Ward, who does a fantastic Bill Cosby.
al madrigal
Bill Cosby.
joe rogan
Was in a couple of porns, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
al madrigal
Cosby type porns, yeah.
joe rogan
Where he didn't bang anybody, but he does his act in the background.
Thomas Ward is another one, man.
I got that guy, introduced that guy to my manager.
Many, many years ago.
Because I was like, this kid has got something.
He's like real raw, and he's got a good way of looking at things, and he's fucking just a natural on stage.
But for whatever reason, it just fucking didn't click with him.
You know?
So goddamn tricky.
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's like you picked the wrong wave.
You're not in the right mindset.
You know, you're not...
You can never really get your life in order.
Whatever the fuck it is that keeps you from getting it right.
There's a lot of guys that we know.
You know, Holtzman's name comes up all the time.
al madrigal
Yeah, but it's like just allowing yourself not to get distracted and just staying on point.
You know, Holtzman's got a job that he works.
I think he was a mechanic for aircraft at some point.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
And so he's got all these other life distractions, and you've got to be fucking...
on it if you want to go get something.
joe rogan
You got to be on it 100% and that's it.
al madrigal
And I think these guys are half-assing it.
They got themselves to a position of comfort.
See, that's what happens with any sort of fucking dream is you get yourself to a point.
You're like, oh, you start sacrificing by like compromising and you go, oh, I don't really need fucking that.
I'm happy with this.
And you get just reached to a point where you settle, you know, and you don't give a shit anymore.
So you're just like, I'm cool with this.
This is a great life right here.
I can just fucking stop trying.
I got this.
joe rogan
That's totally what I did, man.
When I was on news radio, dude, I didn't write anything.
And here's one of the things that turned it around.
I did sets, and when I would do these sets, I would basically do the same fucking material that I had had for years and years and years before.
I would just go up on the weekends, because it was easy, because it was something to do.
You know, I had this TV show, so I was doing the TV show all the time, and the weekends, I'd only been in LA a year, I didn't really know that many people, so my social life was going to the comedy clubs.
So I would go up and I would just do the same act pretty much, just over and over and over again.
Nobody knew who I was.
I didn't have any responsibility.
I didn't have any fans.
I had no responsibility to give them new shit.
And I lost my feeling for it.
It wasn't real anymore to me.
I wasn't in the comedy mode for real.
Because I was just reiterating the same shit.
And a few writers from the TV show, from News Radio, came to see me at the Comedy Store.
And I had a really late night set.
It was really late night in the main room.
When you have those late night sets in the main room, the energy just gets sucked out of the room, where there's nothing.
And I went on like next to last, and I ate a dick.
I felt like while I was saying it, that what I was saying was stupid, that it just felt empty to me.
Just reciting the Yeah, I could feel them feeling bad for me.
I could feel them judging me and not liking what they see.
I just did not have it.
I just wasn't in the groove.
And then I realized I'm slacking.
I'm not really writing.
I'm not really performing.
I'm not putting any effort into it for over a year.
Maybe it might have been two years.
For over a year at least, I just would go up and do the same fucking tired shit over and over again.
But that bad set made me completely refocus.
And then within a year, I did my first CD. Because I just started going crazy.
And then I would go to stand-up.
I would do it every night.
I was doing it every night.
I was doing it at the Laugh Factory and the Improv.
And I was just trying to get in as many sets as I could and write as much new shit as I could.
I just realized, like, you can't just keep doing this anymore.
al madrigal
At some point, that goes off.
And then you're just trying to...
I also try to work new stuff in constantly.
I'm always adding just little chunks here and there.
Not even a whole new bit, but just adding to the old shit that I have.
And they're always growing and evolving.
joe rogan
That's why I have a hard time putting out bits too quickly.
Like, if you do something and then, you know, you put it out, you put out like a DVD, and then the next year you want to do another one like Louis C.K.'s doing, which is...
Really super ambitious.
But in my career, the things that I've done, they've always gotten way, way, way better as I kept doing them over a long period of time and sort of completely tweaked them and got them to the place where I have just the right punchlines and the right places, the right setup, think about the right material to do before you do it.
al madrigal
Yeah, I got an album that I just put out and I felt exactly the same way when I locked it.
You're like, oh shit.
And a couple jokes.
I'm trying just not to do any of that stuff anymore so I won't feel bad about it.
I can just put it away.
joe rogan
Yeah, once I do it, I think that's how you have to do it.
Bill Burr.
al madrigal
Bill Burr does that.
joe rogan
What does he do?
al madrigal
Once he does it on TV or on an album, it goes bye-bye and he just starts fresh.
joe rogan
Well, that's the Louis C.K. way, too.
That's what Louis is doing.
And I think you have to do that.
al madrigal
If you really want to keep moving, there's no way.
You can just do the same thing forever.
joe rogan
I'll do a few bits and people call them out.
Like when I do a Q&A sometimes, especially if I've had a couple of cocktails and I'm feeling it.
But, you know, that's the hardest part about comedy is just to keep that momentum going and keep finding out new and interesting things to talk about.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
al madrigal
No, it's tough to, you know, just let go of something.
joe rogan
It's got to be on it, man.
al madrigal
No, it's so hard to stay, like, grow attached to some bits, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, man.
There's some bits that I fucking love.
My bit about tigers fucking, I used to love doing it.
I used to love everything about it.
It's my favorite bit of all time.
But like all of them, put those bitches aside.
al madrigal
We're talking about how Bill Burr just every single time he does something on TV or on an album goes gone.
Just starts fresh completely.
joe rogan
That's the George Carlin way.
You know, George Carlin's style of doing comedy.
Louis C.K. adopted it.
And Bill Burr's pretty much doing it too.
You know?
It's the way to do it.
Just keep pounding out shit.
Which is very hard to do when you're doing other things as well.
al madrigal
Yeah, that's what we were talking about earlier.
unidentified
When you're doing TV shows.
al madrigal
You get stuck on a TV show and you're working a lot.
It's hard to sleep.
brian redban
Would you recommend comedy to people?
If your child wants to be a comic, would you say, hey, I would recommend comedy?
Or would you scare people away from you?
al madrigal
It's hard.
My son was already asked what he wants to be when he grows up, and he looked at a group of people and said, I just want to tell jokes.
I mean, why wouldn't you recommend one of the great jobs of all time?
I mean, I get to write.
I've written for a couple other people, you know, and just...
I have a great time just, you know, doing what I'm doing.
joe rogan
You seem to think that you wouldn't, Brian.
brian redban
Me?
joe rogan
Is that what you're saying?
brian redban
Well, I don't know if I... Would or wouldn't, I do see just being in it how competitive it is and how it really is hard to get to a certain point of where you can survive, like higher up than the normal comics.
Like, there's so many really good comics, but they seem like they all get to a certain level, and then they kind of balance off, you know, where, yeah, they're making money and stuff, but a lot of them are still kind of struggling here and there.
But it seems like it's really hard to get to the next level where you're just like, you know.
al madrigal
I mean, you use the baseball analogy or any pro football or anything like that, any sporting thing.
It's like, you know, a certain amount of people get a certain distance in the, you know, there's levels of professional, and people just climb up that level of professional.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
There's a lot of different things to think about, because it's not just being a comedian and being funny, it's also the marketing of yourself, which is very alien from the creative aspect of stand-up comedy, so it's real tricky.
What gets you to the next level, a lot of times, has nothing to do with your proficiency as a comedian.
You know, there's a lot of comedians that we know of that, you know, they're really good, they're really solid, but for whatever reason, they never enter into the...
al madrigal
Oh, you're talking about Brian Holtzman is a clear example.
joe rogan
The Zeitgeist never accepts them, for whatever reason.
Nothing, you know, they never figure out how to get promoted correctly.
al madrigal
And also, they sabotage their own career.
I mean, did you hear...
I remember, I don't even know if I have the story right, but Holtzman jumping in, and Martin Lawrence came into the audience, and Holtzman had people there to see him, and it was a big deal, and he was finally going to get a shot.
And then Martin Lawrence's bouncer came in and said something, and I guess Holtzman just looks and says, Fuck it!
And just jumps in, and I guess the bouncer just knocks him right out.
Wow.
Right in front of all these people.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think what it was was Martin Lawrence was heckling.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
Imagine that.
And Brian Holtzman was on stage, and Martin Lawrence was heckling, and Martin Lawrence went off stage and was saying, Ladies and gentlemen, this is Martin Lawrence.
Can you believe this?
I'm getting heckled by Martin Lawrence.
And the bouncer gets up and punches him.
brian redban
Are you fucking serious?
al madrigal
So he's had chances like that.
He has stuff like that happens.
brian redban
That sucks.
I wish Omletto would have taken off.
joe rogan
If he had been around agents and managers and stuff too, that's the other thing about the store.
No one's going there to hang out because they have to pay.
If you go to the improv, everybody gets in free.
Managers, agents, they're all hanging out there.
It used to be an issue to try to get people to come and put them on the list to come see people.
You know, it'd be hard.
People couldn't just, you know, couldn't show up, hey, I'm Mike from IBM, can we come in and see the show?
They're like, yeah, sure, 20 bucks each, bitch.
al madrigal
But what you're saying about the marketing thing, it's also, it's that book, that Malcolm Gladwell book, The Outliers, you ever see any of that?
Where, it's very good.
No.
about people not being able to express themselves.
There was a story of a genius.
This kid who's just, I mean, went to Iowa State, but his mom didn't turn in his paperwork.
They were just sort of dumb about speaking to people.
And this kid was there and didn't go talk to anybody.
Clearly, they wanted him at the school and were gonna keep him at the school.
But all he had to do was know to go and talk to somebody.
People are just socially unable.
joe rogan
So he didn't talk to anybody.
unidentified
He didn't talk to anybody.
al madrigal
He just left school.
He's a manager somewhere.
The man has the highest IQ, almost imaginable.
joe rogan
Well, there was some guy that got tested for the highest IQ ever in America, and he was a bouncer.
He was a bouncer in Long Island or something like that.
And it was really weird, man, because he was really kind of full of himself a bit.
And we would talk about things.
He would talk about things really pompous.
And you're just going to go, hey, back the fuck up.
You're a bouncer, dude.
If you're so smart and fucking smug about everything, what are you out there, swimming in the human condition every day as a bouncer, getting to know the dark side of humanity?
What are you, a fucking Charles Bukowski poet-type character?
Or are you the smartest man in the world?
Because there's a disconnect there, fella.
You're living life like a dummy.
Not that bouncers are dummies.
I know a lot of guys that are bouncers, like MMA guys.
al madrigal
There's a lot of power in bouncers.
You get power and you don't do shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, why would you do that if you're a fucking super genius and you're like 40?
It's not like he's some 20-year-old kid paying for his college education and needing some money on the weekends.
No, he's a fucking 40-year-old genius character working as a bouncer.
al madrigal
His services should be used elsewhere.
unidentified
Totally.
al madrigal
Like, if he's that fucking smart, let's get him working on something.
joe rogan
No, you're, socially, there's the needs, social intelligence needs to be factored into the whole idea of intelligence.
You know, your IQ does not include your ability to fucking maneuver around human beings.
al madrigal
Yeah, that's exactly what they're talking about.
And then a similar kid with a big, you know, really wealthy upbringing that had the same IQ went, you know, that many times further.
joe rogan
You know, his life became this great, you know, I had a friend when I was living in New York who was a pool hustler, and he was a brilliant guy, not just socially, he had a brilliant mathematical mind as well, but he was the first guy that I'd ever met socially that would look for traits in someone, look for things that people are doing, look for ego things.
He could do impressions of people, really good impressions of them.
They wouldn't sound like the person, but it would be exactly the type of shit that that person would say.
analyzing people's personalities and looking for weaknesses you know i did not know until i met this guy that people were out there that did that that like would look for a weakness in how in your game look for weakness and how you talk look for weakness and how you behave and then they find that little spot and that's where they start picking they start picking on whatever got you to say that in the first place whatever got you to stand up for yourself whatever got you to make an excuse about something that happened you know it was kind of sick that day and Normally, that would never go down like that.
Oh, really?
Yeah, normally you're the best, right?
The best ever?
Like, he would just find the spot, find whatever it was, and just start picking.
al madrigal
Yeah, they're out there, man.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, they're out there, man.
But that's a lot of what comedy is, too.
It's finding that little spot, seeing that little thing that other people might not have saw.
al madrigal
No, and then also getting that out and reflecting that in a creative way that has not really been done before, too.
You don't want to fucking go regurgitate some of the old tired shit.
joe rogan
I know.
al madrigal
So it's also like there's a couple rules in place where not only have you had that thought and found that opportunity, but now you've got to put this through this filtering process to determine whether or not it's okay to fucking make it up on stage.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then there's the saying it the right way and, you know, figuring out the best economy of words.
al madrigal
There's like a lyrical aspect to it at that point.
So now you're fucking putting shit together.
Like, you know, I try to do that a lot in my act.
When I'm talking about, I actually tell that whole banana cry story on stage as a bit and leading into it.
joe rogan
By the way, I don't believe that you didn't get jerked off.
I just want you to know.
I love you, but just keep saying what you said.
You don't have to say anything.
Keep going.
Okay, go ahead.
al madrigal
So the banana cry lady goes, this is not the first time I found myself in an English as a second language, sexy talk situation.
And so I say shit like that.
So it just has to come out.
It can be lyrical at the same time.
You can use alliteration and fuck around with it from there.
So then you've got to put it through all these steps, and then it finally makes it out.
And that's why they're tough to give up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know.
They're like your babies.
al madrigal
They're working hard, yeah.
joe rogan
They're like your babies, man.
Once you get good at them and get them all tight and you know exactly how to hit them and they have all these fucking punchlines one after the other.
Ba-bang, ba-bang, ba-bang, ba-bang.
That was the Boston style of comedy, too.
Boston, the best guys, for whatever reason, didn't really write new material.
They just had a gang of stuff that was so devastating.
al madrigal
There's still guys like that.
You just go out and they're just crushing.
joe rogan
There's guys like that.
It's harder to do now, though.
Because of the internet, it's just not the same thing.
These guys didn't have CDs out, so people couldn't go and replay their bits.
You had to go see it again.
You couldn't play it over and over again, so you know the exact timing for when the punchline comes.
It's not like that.
al madrigal
People are still going out, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Comedy is still the most fun thing for me to go see.
If I know that Stan Hope is going to perform, or Louis C.K. is in town, or Nick DiPaolo, or someone that I really think is really funny, I fucking have a great time.
It's still the most fun thing to see.
al madrigal
Who were you saying last night was at the Hollywood Improv?
brian redban
Stan Hope was there, Dave Attell, Ron White, Nick Swartzen, Doug Benson.
How great is that?
It was just like a never-ending line-up.
al madrigal
And it's also just a fun hang, too.
joe rogan
That place is great, man.
That's the difference between that place and the store.
I never realized that there's managers that were actually happy to see you there and thankful.
Can we get you a water?
Do you want a drink?
Do you like something?
Are you hungry?
Do you want to eat?
They've got a menu in their hand.
They have good food there, great burgers and shit.
Everyone's friendly.
The waitstaff's friendly.
The bartender's friendly.
There's a bar where everybody sits down and has a good time at the bar.
And then there's a back showroom.
al madrigal
Eddie, the bartenders are also.
Eddie?
joe rogan
Eddie's a fucking gem.
al madrigal
Deva?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're great.
brian redban
They're not professionals.
joe rogan
Have you been to Sal's yet?
brian redban
Down the street?
joe rogan
Sal's Comic Home?
al madrigal
No, I want to go there.
unidentified
Oh, it's the shit, dude.
Yeah, it's cool.
brian redban
We've got to stop by sometime.
al madrigal
Is Sal a listener?
Do you know if we're in contact with Sal?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
We'll get you in there.
Don't worry.
We'll get you in there.
We did it Sunday night.
It was fucking awesome, man.
Just talked about it on Twitter Sunday.
It's a real small place.
The only seats like 70 at the most.
brian redban
Right now, but they're opening up two more showrooms.
joe rogan
They've got a whole back area that's gigantic.
They're going to blow out and build this huge 300-seat room back there.
It's like 300 seats, right?
brian redban
Well, there's two rooms.
I think they're going to split it.
I think he should just build one huge room.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so, too.
Why not?
brian redban
Keep the small room in the front and then make a big one.
But I guess he's doing an improv room of 80 and then a bigger room of 150 or something like that.
joe rogan
Improv, like that shit, like give me a topic, that kind of shit.
brian redban
Well, kind of like the side room at the improv where Ari does his show.
You know what I mean?
Like a workout improv.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, hey, maybe not.
Maybe he could do it.
Look, the comedy store was three rooms.
Forever.
This guy can actually pull off three rooms in that spot.
He's got the perfect attitude.
He's like...
You know, Sal is like one of those guys that you hope would come along and open up a comedy club.
A guy who really loves comedy, he's a really fun guy, and he's willing to take some chances.
al madrigal
And he has business sense as well, right?
unidentified
Exactly.
al madrigal
He knows what he's doing.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he bought this place.
And right now, it's got a front area where there's a bar and a bunch of seats, and that's where we perform Sunday.
But there's a back area, there's this like old school bakery, and it's been a bakery like forever.
Apparently, he's going to take over that.
What was it before?
brian redban
Vienna Cafe.
It's a cafe with a big yellow awning.
It's on Melrose.
joe rogan
It still says Vienna Cafe.
It doesn't say Sal's Comedy Hole.
He's trying to...
Vienna Cafe...
Oh, it doesn't exist anymore, but come on, we got a show here!
brian redban
Yeah, they're trying to phase it in slowly.
He was telling me a funny Stanhope story last night when he had a club in New York.
Everyone was trying to get into his club, like all these really good comics, and he wanted Stanhope.
So he called Doug up or something like that and was like, hey, I'd really like you to come to my club.
And Doug's like, I don't do clubs, sorry.
And then Sal's like, well, just ask around first before you say no, because I think you would like my place.
So Doug calls back and goes, everyone's saying great things.
I'll go there.
And so he kind of became friends with Stanhope.
And then he had like a party to watch like a boxing match at his house, like his apartment.
And he's like, Doug, you know, if you want to come over and watch the boxing game, come over.
So Doug invited the whole entire club to come to Sal's house.
And he just said there like 40 people were climbing up over his fence and just fucking drinking all his beers and everything.
Can you imagine inviting a whole club to somebody's house?
joe rogan
Well, that's kind of douchey.
al madrigal
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Was Stan Hope drunk?
Yes.
brian redban
Of course.
Is that a real question?
joe rogan
That isn't a real question.
brian redban
That isn't.
joe rogan
That's funny.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And after that, he's still into comedy?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Dude's a glutton for punishment.
brian redban
I know.
al madrigal
This, I'm sorry, but Price Pull-up, the Ted Williams, the Golden Voice, a homeless man.
brian redban
Right.
al madrigal
And this guy is like, was a junkie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
And now they're giving him all this money?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Crazy.
al madrigal
Guess who's gonna fucking get some money?
brian redban
He was on Dr. Phil, and I guess he's about to check himself into rehab, or he did check himself into rehab because of the Dr. Phil show.
unidentified
Why?
brian redban
But Dr. Phil brought up the whole point of where, like, that he used to steal cars.
al madrigal
He's a horrible dude.
brian redban
He's a great boy.
It's not like the innocent crybaby guy that you first...
unidentified
Oh, I'm more homeless, man.
al madrigal
Fucking no, this guy's a criminal.
Wow.
joe rogan
And now he's gonna become famous.
Do you think he's getting pussy yet?
Internet pussy?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Um, I hope not.
al madrigal
He sort of looks like Matt.
You remember when McDonald's had that Moon Man commercial where it was like a moon face?
Jack the Night.
brian redban
What was that?
I remember that.
al madrigal
It was, um...
brian redban
Mack Tonight.
al madrigal
Mack Tonight.
brian redban
Wow, Mack Tonight.
al madrigal
Pull that up.
brian redban
I gotta look at that now.
al madrigal
Mac Tonight was when McDonald's had some moon-headed man wearing a suit.
joe rogan
Well, I don't remember that at all.
brian redban
He looks exactly like that.
al madrigal
And the homeless guy Ted Williams looked like that.
joe rogan
So he goes on Dr. Phil and he tells them that he stole cars and all kinds of other shit while he's doing drugs.
Is that what he said?
brian redban
Yeah.
He first said that he...
Dr. Phil brought up the fact that he...
Hold on, I'll tell you exactly what it was.
Where is it?
unidentified
He...
joe rogan
For people who don't know, there's a guy, and if you haven't heard this story, there was a guy that was standing on the side of a road and he had a sign that said, you know, we'll use my golden voice for, you know, God gave me a voice and give me a dollar.
You know, whatever the fuck it is.
So this guy...
Does this impression of a morning DJ on a television show or on a radio show, and it's amazing.
It's like a really good radio voice, like that perfect fake radio voice.
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it seems weird coming out of a homeless guy, and he's got a bunch of shit planned that he can say like that.
And so this became an internet thing.
It got huge.
And then from it, this guy gets a bunch of different job offers.
So now he's on Dr. Phil.
And so what happened?
brian redban
Well, Dr. Phil sits down with him and discusses all the challenges he had in his life.
And he first denied the incident in which Dr. Phil was accused of violent behavior, public urination, stealing customers' cars at a tire store in Ohio, and all this other crap.
In the interview, the guy finally admits that he did all those things.
And then the next...
joe rogan
So first he lied.
brian redban
First he lied.
So he's still lying.
He's still doing the lying thing.
And then he admitted it later after Dr. Phil probably owned him or something.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
And then supposedly he will appear again on Dr. Phil accompanied by his ex-wife.
He has five kids.
Wow.
al madrigal
I'm happy the kids got money, but this kid is not a good dude.
joe rogan
Well, you hope the kids got money.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
And I guess supposedly that the wife and kids are worried that he's going to relapse.
And then later in the interview or whatever, they say that he's going to go into rehab on Thursday.
joe rogan
So he already relapsed.
brian redban
Yeah, well, he probably got some cash and, you know.
al madrigal
Went straight to the bar, why not?
brian redban
Yeah.
al madrigal
Whew.
Homeless guy.
He's going to shower and straight to the bar.
brian redban
Joe, do you remember this commercial?
You probably don't remember this commercial, but this is who Al says that he looks like this old age.
al madrigal
It's just a chin on this homeless guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I see it, but I don't remember it at all.
al madrigal
That was a big campaign.
unidentified
When was this?
al madrigal
2007?
unidentified
That can't be 2007. There's no way.
joe rogan
That was four years ago, bitches.
brian redban
Oh wait, here's a 1989 one.
al madrigal
That's the one I'm talking about.
brian redban
Yeah, that's a freaky one.
al madrigal
That was a new revamped version.
joe rogan
I don't see what the fuck you guys are talking about.
That's a guy with a moon head.
That's ridiculous.
al madrigal
That's what I'm saying.
unidentified
That is the funniest shit out.
Okay.
Moonface.
brian redban
Moonface.
al madrigal
Even more than a Jay Leno.
joe rogan
He has a freaking moonface.
I met that Antoine Dodson dude.
He's the dude who his house got broken into.
al madrigal
Yeah.
So, what?
Hide your kids.
joe rogan
Hide your wife.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy is like doing all kinds of shit now.
al madrigal
Dude, that song is good.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's good.
al madrigal
That song is legitimately good.
The Antoine...
Antoine Dodson's song is legitimately good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
It really is.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's...
I mean, it's amazing though how these things can become viral like this.
al madrigal
He bought his mom a house from the proceeds.
I guess they split the money 50-50 and Antoine got a lot of money and bought his mom a house.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
al madrigal
From a viral video done from the local news.
joe rogan
And he's doing a bunch of other shit.
He did some shit for the UFC. He was on George Lopez.
al madrigal
I saw that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's doing like ads and shit now.
It's crazy, man.
Internet celebrity is like a real thing.
al madrigal
He's made a couple of comics.
I mean, he really has.
joe rogan
I met Bo Burnham the other night, that kid.
brian redban
Did you see this, Joe?
The hide your kids, hide your wife dog.
joe rogan
What is that on Twitter?
Is that what it is?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Anyway, I met that Bo Burnham kid.
al madrigal
I just saw him on Paul Provenza's show, The Green Room.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was on that.
I was on the one after it.
And I was there, and we were talking, and me and Eddie Ift were talking, and one of the things that this kid was saying was that he never had to struggle.
He never went out and did the shitty one-nighters.
al madrigal
No, he's famous on YouTube, by the way.
joe rogan
He's like, bam, right away, famous, doing big shows.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
That's pretty crazy, man.
al madrigal
Yep.
joe rogan
That's a new thing, man.
brian redban
Who was the first internet celebrity, like, going back?
joe rogan
Justin Bieber's, like, the big one, right?
brian redban
Well, no, no, I mean first, like, 10 years ago, 15 years ago.
Like, was there an AOL celebrity back in the day?
al madrigal
Well, when YouTube first started, it was the History of the Dance guy became one of the ones that was the first YouTube sensation, really, to start commanding high dollar.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
The Goatsy guy was the most famous guy on the internet.
brian redban
The go-to guy?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
His butthole.
I wonder who that guy is.
Did you ever see his face?
joe rogan
It's a guy who's got his butthole face in the camera, and he's wearing a wedding ring, and he's stretching his asshole out, like pulling it like it's rubber.
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
Peering into the darkness, into the event horizon of his butthole.
And it's, you know, an internet meme.
It's been on a million different things.
It's all over the place.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People make photoshops of it in cloud patterns and shit.
brian redban
It'll make your banana cry.
joe rogan
But no, seriously, if you think of like the first real legit celebrity that was made off of the internet, it's recent.
unidentified
Tila Tequila?
joe rogan
Yeah, Tila Tequila is a perfect one.
She's straight, you know, just right from the internet.
Nothing but, right?
brian redban
You've got mail.
joe rogan
She actually might have been the first.
brian redban
No, no.
I mean, you're talking about like seven years ago.
I'm talking about like the internet came out a long ass time.
joe rogan
Right, but there was no one like Tila Tequila that made their way into the public and became on television shows.
al madrigal
Well, we never had video like that before.
I mean, video and then social networks.
Yeah.
I'm just talking about the internet had, It was always a spot for celebrity to go.
Like, I used to look up...
I think some of the celebrities have brothers and shit like that.
unidentified
And there's, like, Ricky Leach, Rivolta, John Travolta's brother.
al madrigal
And so he has a website.
And I was like, there was a lot of funny shit on it back then, but...
Nothing like there is now.
The content and the audio, there's a sound.
You can go to SoundCloud and YouTube.
I mean, when people were putting out, nobody had the devices either.
Nobody had flip video cameras.
And so, it was a whole new age of when you introduced a small camera.
That's when, and easy to upload with a USB connector.
It's just right in, immediately.
HD. Phones.
And so, you didn't have to have that technology available to just a regular guy.
So now that they, I mean, It's easier to launch a video.
And look how, when shit goes viral, I mean, a lot of people are talking about the voice guy.
And Antoine Dodson, that's a lot of fucking money to buy your mom a house.
I don't care if it's in Alabama.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, it was really because of that song.
Those guys who created that auto-tune song.
The guys are very talented musicians.
al madrigal
Sure, and then just auto-tune.
I mean, auto-tune's fucking hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, you heard Carl Sagan's auto-tune?
al madrigal
No, but have you heard that, I think it's the Woo Woo song.
It's a local news in San Francisco.
And I guess people are putting these mufflers on.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
al madrigal
That go, Woo Woo!
And it's local news autotune for that.
It's hilarious.
Autotuning the news is funny.
brian redban
I think GarageBand is pretty amazing too.
The program where you can pretty much make your own song pretty easily.
joe rogan
Don't they have programs like that for your phone now?
brian redban
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Like, there was...
I don't know if we ever talked about...
There was this...
Back in the day in MySpace, somebody linked one of my songs on their MySpace page and, like, stole it from my web host.
And so, like, when you went to their MySpace page, it automatically played a song...
unidentified
Oh, right.
joe rogan
From your show.
brian redban
From my show.
So, what I did is I took...
That file, took it down, and then made up a quick song in GarageBand about like, oh, Stacey from, you know, Hollywood, California.
I want you to suck my dick.
And made a whole song just about how I wanted to fuck this girl and stuff like that.
And I replaced that song, that file, with the original file so that when people went to her MySpace page, it just started playing that song.
al madrigal
That's great.
brian redban
Yeah, and I just love it.
I don't know why I even thought about that, but it's a pretty funny video.
joe rogan
That's funny when you can do that with hot linking.
unidentified
Yeah.
al madrigal
And speaking of MySpace, I think yesterday went officially really just downsized.
joe rogan
Yeah, they shut off Germany.
MySpace Germany is dead.
Somebody tweeted me.
brian redban
MySpace cut all their employees like three months ago.
Like half of their employees, they cut.
And then they just did it again.
Jordy, yeah.
al madrigal
Yeah, Jordy was with, and now he's lucky that he's with Comedy Central.
Right.
Yeah, he was working.
MySpace Comedy was thriving.
I'm sure you did one of those secret shows, didn't you?
joe rogan
Yeah, I did one of those secret shows.
I'm thinking about deleting my MySpace live on the air.
What do you think?
al madrigal
Do it.
If they're going to cut, shut up and ruin...
brian redban
It's funny how we did it with, I think, I forget who we did it with, like Jason Tebow or something like that.
Somebody deleted their MySpace the other day live on podcast.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, I can't even come up with one original idea.
brian redban
But watch how many steps it is.
It's pretty hilarious.
It was Ari.
Ari did it.
joe rogan
It's a lot of steps.
brian redban
It was like three steps.
Like, they make it really hard.
Like, are you sure?
unidentified
Are you still people on it trying to talk to you?
joe rogan
Very, very, very, very few.
Almost all of it is just...
al madrigal
Mine's completely dead as well.
You want to go into mine?
We can shut mine down also with a duel.
brian redban
Yeah, a dual one.
al madrigal
I paid some money to have mine tricked out, too, at one point.
unidentified
Sex.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did you have glitter tags?
al madrigal
I don't know what he did.
brian redban
It seems like you would.
al madrigal
Probably.
I can even say it.
brian redban
Yeah, so if you want to delete your MySpace now, too, we could have a double MySpace, and I'm going to keep mine now.
joe rogan
They hide this motherfucker.
It's not easy.
I don't even know where to go.
brian redban
Um...
Here, I'll tell you guys where to go.
Hold on.
More.
Delete MySpace.
al madrigal
I can't even tell you.
I don't even know if I know my password.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's time to let it go.
You know what I mean?
It's like that girl that you dated 10 years ago and her phone over is still in your book.
Throw that shit out, son.
brian redban
Move on.
joe rogan
It's in your book.
Listen to me.
Your book.
Who has a phone book anymore?
Phone books are worth nothing.
Fuck you and your phone book.
I want to write it on paper like some caveman.
brian redban
They're good for standing on.
joe rogan
Why don't you just give me some burnt sticks and I'll use it to carve the fucking numbers on a rock.
brian redban
How to delete...
Did you do it?
al madrigal
No, I can't even...
brian redban
You can't even figure it out?
al madrigal
There you go.
brian redban
There you go.
unidentified
Is that me?
brian redban
Alright, if you decide to delete MySpace, what you do is...
al madrigal
More?
brian redban
You go to my account, and then...
al madrigal
Where's my account?
joe rogan
It's under more.
al madrigal
My stuff?
brian redban
My stuff...
Account settings right here.
al madrigal
Account settings.
brian redban
It looks different.
al madrigal
I have to give him that.
joe rogan
It looks different, but it doesn't look better.
brian redban
That logo is a space.
al madrigal
Should we give him a chance now that they redesigned everything?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Damn, Al.
We committed to this, bro.
unidentified
Are you sure?
joe rogan
We've committed to this, man.
al madrigal
They changed everything in here!
brian redban
It's all white!
joe rogan
Basic details, account settings.
al madrigal
Remember the constantly had those horrible fucking ads?
joe rogan
Cancel account.
Here we go.
al madrigal
You know, trying to shoot a smiley face or something.
joe rogan
Brian, it's not just cancel account, right?
It's deleted.
I want to delete mine.
brian redban
No, you want to cancel account.
al madrigal
That's it?
joe rogan
We're sorry you want to leave.
Please let us know why.
You can really help us improve MySpace.
There's not an it's over bitch option.
There's board, spam, privacy, and email.
I'm going to go with spam because that's the one thing that annoyed me.
brian redban
Where is it, Joe?
Where's the cancel account?
joe rogan
Cancel account.
Under settings.
brian redban
Under settings.
joe rogan
You go under account settings and privacy.
brian redban
Account settings and privacy.
joe rogan
Cancellation comments.
Thanks for the love and the laughs, but it's over bitches.
al madrigal
It's not down there.
brian redban
Yeah.
Oh, there we go.
al madrigal
Privacy.
But they do hide it.
They hide it below the fold.
brian redban
Yeah.
And you just gotta keep on scrolling down.
joe rogan
Over.
brian redban
Bitches.
You know what even pisses me off?
joe rogan
Cancel account, hoes.
It's over.
My request has been sent.
You will receive an email shortly with instructions for confirming that you managed to cancel.
Why won't you just let me walk away?
brian redban
See, that's what they're doing.
unidentified
This is like a divorce.
brian redban
Now you have to go to your email and click on a link.
joe rogan
It's like a divorce.
brian redban
So do it now.
joe rogan
Because they want to pretend they have more people on MySpace than they do.
al madrigal
Do it, Joe.
joe rogan
Continue it.
brian redban
Finish him.
You know what sucks is that Facebook just today has forced their new profile on all the Facebook accounts.
joe rogan
What is their new profile?
brian redban
Which sucks ass.
joe rogan
Really?
How come?
brian redban
Because when you go to Facebook, at least how do I do it, the first thing I like to do is like, hmm, is this person single?
Is this, you know, look at their photos.
Now they've hidden like the single part and it's just like this really shitty...
It reminds me of a MySpace.
They've moved it all around and now it's just...
al madrigal
Oh, you can change everything.
There's actually companies that do that.
Somebody just hit me up from a company to customize my Facebook page and make it look all tricked out.
brian redban
Yeah.
Well, now they used to let you go back.
al madrigal
We talked about having to have a marketing degree to be a good stand-up comic.
brian redban
Right.
al madrigal
I try.
I got two kids.
I work on them.
I told you about my situation.
joe rogan
Do you have a website, though?
al madrigal
I have a website.
joe rogan
All you need to do is keep doing what you're doing.
al madrigal
I'm in touch.
If somebody emails me, I'll definitely get back to it.
joe rogan
Twitter, by the way, is Al Madrigal.
unidentified
A-L-M-A-D-R-I-G-A-L. Exciting stuff happening.
joe rogan
But you should say it.
Madrigal!
Especially if you go on before Willie Barsena.
al madrigal
You don't even say your real name, right, bro?
brian redban
How many followers do you have?
al madrigal
Closing on 3,000.
Not too many.
joe rogan
We're going to blow that out of the water today, Al.
We're going to jump you up to 5,000, you fucker.
brian redban
Really?
al madrigal
You got that kind of reach that I could just jump?
joe rogan
2,835.
al madrigal
You know what?
If I get people to sign on, I'm a funny guy.
I'll start putting funny shit out there.
I'm at war with my neighbors right now.
joe rogan
Are you really?
What's going on?
al madrigal
Well, I'm surrounded by old people and I'm surrounded by these three guys.
This is a bit.
This is real.
Three guys named Phil.
I go old Phil, really old Phil, and then Filipino Phil.
That's how I like...
Filipino Phil is my ally.
brian redban
Which one makes your banana cry?
The Filipino one?
al madrigal
But the other guys are constantly complaining.
joe rogan
That's the new thing now.
al madrigal
Banana cry.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's going to be the new thing.
al madrigal
Do you want me to make your banana cry?
joe rogan
See, you talk about this on stage?
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
I gotta see the bit.
So anyway, I'm sorry.
al madrigal
So I'm surrounded by old people, and it's Eagle Rock.
It's an up-and-coming neighborhood still, and there's a lot of cool people that live near me, but at the same time, I was just surrounded by old people that are in my business.
I went on my roof to clean up my gutters, and it's like they all assembled below me while I was conducting some AARP meeting, and they're all in my business.
At one point...
I had three cars.
I still have three cars right now.
GM was nice enough to get me a Buick Enclave for the holiday, and let me use that as just perk through the PR department.
And this thing is awesome.
It really is fucking an incredible vehicle.
Anyway, so that shows up.
So I have four cars, and the old people are stopping by constantly and go, do you feel it's economical to have three vehicles?
And I can't help but just fuck with them and hate them.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, they ask you?
al madrigal
Oh, I have people in my shit constantly about my hedges, my...
I mean, and there's a guy, old guy who walks his dog by my house every fucking day and is so in my business.
Like, stop.
If I even show my head, he'll stop and start asking a million fucking questions.
And so you live up here in this community where it's nice and there's not...
I mean, your neighbors aren't on you.
I have neighbors just on my ass.
brian redban
That sucks.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm so not into that.
al madrigal
Yeah, no, it sucks.
joe rogan
I don't even like this.
I lived in the woods for three months.
When I lived in Colorado, it was the perfect place for me.
al madrigal
Oh, when I was driving up, I was like, this is how you do it.
I have old people on my shit.
And then also, you know, it's sort of a little gang-y-ish sometimes.
Really?
Like somebody will ride a mini truck, we'll go...
You know, down the street, and you have that guy, like, driving by really fast, for no reason.
joe rogan
You worry about that with your kids, the gang-y part?
unidentified
Well, it's not.
brian redban
How old are your kids?
al madrigal
Gang-adjacent.
It's not really...
joe rogan
Gang-adjacent?
al madrigal
It's not right in the shit.
joe rogan
But it's close enough where it's going to become an issue in their life if they're walking around their neighborhood.
al madrigal
Well, yeah, you can definitely stumble down to the wrong area and just get...
Well, anywhere you can get caught at the wrong time, but here it's highly unlikely.
You know, I mean, I have a more realistic chance of running into some bad people in my neighborhood.
brian redban
Yeah.
al madrigal
And yeah, I worry about my wife being alone when I go do stand-up and shit like that all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, I know that feeling.
al madrigal
And even with household shit, if anything breaks, you know, we've had stuff where I've been on the road doing stand-up, I travel all over, just like, not as much, but I, you know, I go out a fair amount.
Yeah, my wife's home with two kids.
And luckily, you know, we got Filipino Frank there.
joe rogan
So tell me, what's your issues with your war?
al madrigal
Oh, let's try to come and trim my shit.
Like, you know how you have...
joe rogan
Hedges?
al madrigal
Yeah, my dog was running out and barking the other day.
And my neighbor was secretly trying to trim my fucking hedge.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Why was he trimming your hedge?
al madrigal
Just old and drunk and crazy.
Like, just wasted.
joe rogan
So did you talk to him?
al madrigal
No, they brought over a letter.
See, that's what I'm talking about.
I feel crazy about this.
I'm like, you want a war?
unidentified
I'll bring you war!
al madrigal
God, I didn't say that, but that's how I feel.
They all get all pissed and bent out of shape if I... I'm not talking to a neighbor for two years because of our parking.
We had construction people over our house and the Latino guys parked there and he came running back, the old guy, and fucking started yelling at the Latino guys to move their car.
It's a public street.
Anybody can fucking park there.
I'm at war.
Yeah, I won't even talk to the fucking guys.
brian redban
Suburban war.
al madrigal
It really is ridiculous shit.
joe rogan
People claim their turf, and the real issue is people are not supposed to be on top of each other like this.
al madrigal
No, they really not.
joe rogan
This is nothing compared to apartments, man.
Apartments are where it's really brutal.
al madrigal
Right on top of each other.
joe rogan
Dude, I had an apartment in North Hollywood where I had a pool table, okay?
And I lived on the second floor, and there was this crazy gay couple that lived on the first floor, and he was like the landlord, too.
What is it called?
unidentified
The...
al madrigal
Superintendent.
unidentified
He was always controlling things.
joe rogan
He didn't own the building, but he ran it.
So I had a pool table installed in my living room.
I had a big living room.
And the reason why I got this big living room was because I could get a pool table.
I wanted a pool table in my living room.
So I had it installed.
Then he comes knocking on the door.
What's going on in there?
There's a lot of movement.
There's a lot of movement up here.
And I go, oh, I've got a pool table.
He goes, are you jumping around?
Are you working out or something?
I go, no, no, no.
I'm just walking around the pool table.
al madrigal
Trying to look in as he's talking to you.
joe rogan
Making shots.
And he goes, okay, I'm going to have to ask you to not do that when I'm home because it's just like I'm in the living room and all I hear is creak, creak, creak, creak, creak, creak.
And I'm like, so you're saying that because of the structural instability of this shithead fucking apartment building, you don't want me walking in my living room because it's annoying?
al madrigal
Yeah.
I started changing my wireless password because they're right on top of you, right?
joe rogan
Right.
al madrigal
So I changed my network name.
I can change it to anything I want.
brian redban
Right.
al madrigal
So I put, like, weed your lawn.
brian redban
Yeah, that's hilarious.
unidentified
I changed my network.
al madrigal
And then I looked on, like, are we links, sister?
Fucking weed your lawn.
brian redban
Hey!
Hey, son of a bitch.
al madrigal
Yeah, quit trimming my fucking hedges.
brian redban
Oh, that's great.
unidentified
Wow.
al madrigal
Shit like that.
joe rogan
That's funny, they try to steal off your fucking wireless.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, that's creepy when you have neighborhoods, man.
There's always that one kid that lives down the block that's going to steal your fucking shit when you're not looking.
Someone has some troubled 16-year-old.
al madrigal
Troubled youth walking around.
joe rogan
Always, man.
My friend of mine got his fucking bike stolen.
Some fucking kid down the street.
al madrigal
I saw this kid just walking up the block, just walking up, just looking around, not doing anything.
It's like, where's that guy fucking going?
He's walking up.
First of all, in L.A., very few people without a dog walking.
brian redban
Yeah.
al madrigal
I don't have, you know, chicks have Lululemon on or something like that.
You know, they're dressed in outfits.
I mean, when you see just a lone fucking thug, it's like seeing an ant just away from the rest of the fucking ants.
joe rogan
It's so important to live in a nice spot.
It's so important to live in a quiet spot.
al madrigal
Just try to find a quiet, nice spot.
And that's why so many people go to the suburbs.
You know, it's like you go to downtown Cleveland...
It's shut down.
There's nothing there.
Every single store is released and shit like that.
I couldn't find a department store.
My wife sometimes helps me pack.
No underwear.
So I go to buy underwear in downtown Cleveland.
Not a department store.
It's like Walgreens or Brooks Brothers.
And that's the only two little things that they had.
joe rogan
Cleveland's weird.
brian redban
Yeah.
al madrigal
Because everybody moved out to a quieter place.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it's also...
The jobs disappeared, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that what happened with Cleveland?
Some plants got shut down or something?
brian redban
Yeah.
And Detroit.
You know, people went south.
Went to Columbus and Cincinnati because just...
I mean...
Cleveland used to be the biggest city in Ohio.
It used to be like the flats.
It used to be the place to be, the cool part of Ohio.
Now it's scary.
al madrigal
Improv down there, that's a real dump.
joe rogan
The Cleveland one?
I think I did it once.
al madrigal
Well, they just gave out so many passes, they completely ruined the room.
That's what a lot of comedy clubs do, is just the quality.
They're just giving out passes.
joe rogan
They give out free passes, so the tickets are free, so they're selling booze.
al madrigal
And the tickets have no value.
A lot of places believe that they're in the liquor business, not the comedy business, and they just want people inside drinking.
joe rogan
Well, I see their point, man.
You've got to keep the fucking wolves away.
Sure.
It's like for a lot of these places, like in the middle of nowhere, it's real hard.
And a lot of the comics that are getting shipped down there are terrible.
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many times have you been in a club and you look at the line and be like, what do they got going on here?
And you read their calendar and you're like, oh, shit.
Jesus, fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you just imagine these poor people having to come and sit and watch this.
al madrigal
Some kid told me a quote that I was working with.
He said he was at a show and this comic was so bad, some old black lady yells out, You're ruining my free passes!
joe rogan
Oh my god.
al madrigal
That was the best thing that sums everything up.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
al madrigal
You're ruining my free passes!
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
al madrigal
I got this for free and I hate it.
This is horrible.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
al madrigal
And that's why a lot of people get...
When you're a comedy promoter, you do free beer.
There's always got to be something else that will justify that I can move.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a tough fucking business, man.
Any sort of bar, restaurant business, owning a pool hall, anything like that, any nighttime business, those fucking things are hard, man.
And when times are tough like they are now...
The economy gets shitty, and then it becomes, you know, like, then they really don't want to go out.
They don't want to take a chance and just go see comedy.
You know, if, you know, they know someone is going to be there, you know, Bill Burr is in town.
Oh, okay, let's go see him.
You know, I know who he is.
al madrigal
Yeah, Stanhope has that joke that he used to know.
It's like, how many people are here to see me?
How many people are here to see comedy?
And then half of them reply.
And it's like, you don't do that with anything else.
You don't just roll into, you know, too many things.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's also, you know, I've said this before, but I'll say it again, the real problem is the generic label comedy.
It's like you don't go to see live music, not knowing if you're going to get Barry Manilow or Guns N' Roses or, you know, a rap band, you know, but with comedy, you could get that.
And you could get that all on the same night.
You can get like five different comics can go up at the improv and they all have five different, totally different acts.
unidentified
Sure.
al madrigal
John Reap and Eddie Griffin, maybe.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
al madrigal
The polar opposites.
Bob Oshack.
You know, just these drastic differences.
joe rogan
You know Bob Oshack can't call into the store anymore?
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they told him he's too old.
brian redban
Why?
Are you serious?
But then what's-his-name still can go there every day?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got his thing.
brian redban
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
al madrigal
Bob Oshak is a very funny comedy writer and a very funny comedian.
I mean, you should look him up.
He's incredible.
And also, when you sit and listen to the guy, that is a perfect talk about alliteration and the story.
I mean, just top-notch.
joe rogan
Yeah, he would be a great talk show host.
al madrigal
He was, I think for a while.
That's when he moved to Florida, and he was working on one of those Good Morning shows as the real correspondent.
When was he doing this?
He moved away from L.A., I'd say three years ago.
joe rogan
Really?
al madrigal
You can type in Bob Boshak on YouTube and see him as a morning correspondent.
Wow, so that fell apart and then he came back to LA? And it was for some big gig and they just moved back to Los Angeles.
Yeah, so Bob Oshak in the morning or whatever.
joe rogan
Does he have kids?
al madrigal
Yeah, he has two kids about the same age as mine, you know, in that eight and four range.
joe rogan
I can't believe they're telling him not to get spots.
brian redban
Did he play David Letterman in that old movie?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
al madrigal
But he always has this look about him where he really looks like a young Dave Letterman.
He was voted by Oprah to be one of the top...
I mean, speaking of Oprah, we were talking about that's how we first met.
It was over some old Oprahs watching.
Well, we did stand up together and we went up to my house and just sat there baked 11 years ago watching old Oprah footage.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were doing bong hits in Al Madrigal's couch watching Oprah from like the 80s when she had big hair and shit.
al madrigal
I was like, do you think she's rich or did she have plastic surgery?
What's happening right now?
Why?
We're just sitting there.
And I think there were people around us.
But me and you were just sitting watching the Oprah.
There was a little bit of a gathering and people were talking and drinking.
joe rogan
It was your brother and I think your wife, before she was your wife, and one other person.
al madrigal
Yeah, a couple other people.
And so we're just completely focused on this old Oprah.
joe rogan
And we were barbecued.
And you know how when you're barbecued, something all of a sudden is like, why have I never seen it like this before?
It was so strange.
It was like we were watching an alien film.
It didn't even look real.
al madrigal
Anyway, Oshak was on Oprah and touted as one of the next great comedians.
joe rogan
And nobody knows comedy like that bitch.
al madrigal
That's what our whole new network's about.
Watch out Comedy Central.
Own.
joe rogan
It's like the white version of Def Jam.
unidentified
What?
al madrigal
So, nothing on Oshak?
joe rogan
We don't have to pull him up.
It doesn't matter.
It's just another one of those stories.
It's been the interesting thing about being a comedian and living in LA is watching the whole story of humanity unfold for many different people and many different players.
They take their part in the game and they all go through it and you get to watch them.
A lot of them you get to learn from, too.
Just learn from their fuck-ups and learn from even their successes.
al madrigal
You can sort of pick the path that you want to go.
It's like choose your own adventure.
It's like, am I going to be like that, dude?
Or am I going to end up like that, dude?
And then you get to go, am I going to go into the cave?
Am I going to choose to go to space?
You have to make choices along the way.
And if you fuck up, then you might go off in some other positive direction, but not necessarily.
I mean, there's a lot of choices to be made.
Like I was talking about, I've been on fucking six pilots or something like that at this point since we've met.
And not one of them has really taken off.
It's been weird.
joe rogan
And one of them could have taken off immediately.
al madrigal
Yeah, you could end up like...
joe rogan
You could get super-duper lucky.
al madrigal
And not to say you were lucky at all.
joe rogan
I was lucky.
al madrigal
News radio and shit.
joe rogan
Look, there's no doubt I was lucky.
The first two things I ever auditioned for, I got.
The first two shows.
I didn't go on a bunch of auditions like a lot of actors.
I auditioned for one thing when I was living in New York.
I got it.
Came out to California.
That got canceled.
I auditioned for news radio.
I got that.
Bam.
No acting experience at all.
It's total luck.
There's no getting away from it.
It was just I was in the right place at the right time when they were looking for stand-ups on sitcoms.
That's all it is.
So it's a lot of luck.
You know, I could have had the same thing as you.
It could have been six different pilots and nothing happened.
Or it could have been one.
al madrigal
And Ray Romano actually had that part before you did.
You talked about that.
joe rogan
In news radio, yeah.
Yeah.
He had it, but I didn't take it from him.
I took it from the guy who took it from him.
al madrigal
Aha.
joe rogan
They decided somewhere along the line that they were going to go in some different direction.
And meanwhile, it turned out to be the greatest thing ever for Ray Romano.
Fuck News Radio.
Ray Romano made like $800 million or something.
al madrigal
We saw him the other night.
Do you know him?
joe rogan
Yeah, real well.
al madrigal
And he seemed like he was incredibly humble and cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a very cool guy.
He's as down-to-earth as possible.
He hasn't changed at all.
He's the same guy.
And he was talking about something that I can totally relate to, too.
When we were at the taping of Paul Provenza's Green Room, he did it the night before I did it.
And by the way, kiddies, I had a conversation with Mark Maron.
We're both going to do each other's podcasts.
al madrigal
Yeah, I think it'll be good.
joe rogan
There's no real beef there.
This is a big Twitter issue.
So anyway, people keep asking me to do it.
Long story.
al madrigal
That's why, with the other thing, I don't want any beef.
joe rogan
I hear you.
It's distracting.
It's a waste of time.
unidentified
That's all it is.
al madrigal
It's a waste of time.
And you really think about pride and shit like that.
Shut up.
Who gives this fuck?
joe rogan
Go to work.
It's like the war of art.
al madrigal
I just want to do my shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I hear you.
I'm exactly the same way.
Anyway, Ray Romano was talking about how...
unidentified
You know, even after all these years, I do these shows.
joe rogan
It sounds like Kermit the Fraud.
He said even after he does all these years and he does these shows at the Mirage in Vegas or wherever he goes, and, you know, massive fucking crowd.
He said he still feels like a fraud.
al madrigal
Imposter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He feels like when he gets, he's stepping out there that all these people are...
al madrigal
Sure.
joe rogan
I think, he goes, I think at any moment we're going to just turn around and just point a finger at me and go, you're a dick.
We don't really like you.
al madrigal
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And that is what it feels like.
It's a weird thing.
You do comedy all these years and people are there to see you and they're all psyched up and they're cheering when they're bringing your name.
And as you're walking to the stage, you're like, what the fuck am I even doing?
al madrigal
Tom Papa told me great stories about that.
He worked to sell out comedy clubs and then he started selling out some comedy clubs and then he moved to the smaller theaters.
And then as a guy in a smaller theater, he didn't take a moment to go, this is it, I'm in the smaller theater.
He started thinking about getting in bigger theaters.
Are we filling this one?
Okay, we're filling this theater and then we're going to move to a bigger theater.
He wasn't satisfied...
joe rogan
Right.
al madrigal
With the little theater.
You know, where I'm thinking, oh my god, if I can get to a theater, I don't give a shit what size it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's like the jump-off point, man, for comics.
al madrigal
So you always aspire to do it in theaters.
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Theaters are a lot of work, though, man.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
It's a lot of work to try to sell them, unless you've got this giant following, you know?
al madrigal
I was on the road with Mitch Hedberg and he told a story about him and Lynn trying to think they could do a theater on their own.
And they didn't need a promoter.
And it was sold out at this comedy club forever and they were just going to try to do it.
And he said it was an absolute disaster.
unidentified
Really?
al madrigal
Like half full, they lost money or barely broke even.
joe rogan
Well, they probably didn't have the internet in full effect back then.
al madrigal
No, not at all.
joe rogan
Because I remember Mitch Hedberg's website was bunk.
It looked like somebody put it together out of Netscape Navigator, built a website page.
al madrigal
Greg Shaley did that.
You know Shaley?
No.
He goes around with Stan Hope?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
No.
al madrigal
Yeah, Greg Shaley did that website.
joe rogan
It's a terrible website.
al madrigal
Yeah, it really is.
It's an older style.
Yeah, it was old.
There's no updates going on there.
joe rogan
Right.
And so he didn't have a regular blog or he didn't have a message board.
So it's hard to get the word out.
You've got to have a lot of shit going on.
al madrigal
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of different connections.
al madrigal
Well, now there's also so many different applications that you can use that allow it, you know, the communication to be just, you know, it's a lot easier before you're doing, you know, just emails if you're doing that or some sort of weird email newsletter with asterisks, you know, as a separation points, you know, there's a lot more out there now.
brian redban
It's easy.
al madrigal
I mean, you've got to be a fucking marketing major to do all this shit.
I've got Twitter.
I've got to keep track of all this stuff.
And then you're talking about tricking out fucking Facebook pages.
And we just deleted our MySpace pages.
It's like staying on top of this shit.
joe rogan
Well, it's got to become a part of your life.
al madrigal
It really does.
And I love the fucking news stream.
I did that with...
I was in Dallas with Hal Sparks.
He dropped by.
joe rogan
Hal Sparks was here.
We had him on the podcast.
al madrigal
Yeah, we had this really surreal thing.
We were at a strip club at Triple Delage.
You know that place?
joe rogan
The Lodge.
Where's it at?
al madrigal
In Dallas, Addison.
And there was a monkey there.
unidentified
Wow.
al madrigal
So it's me and Hal and a monkey and fucking strippers.
It was really fucking weird.
We went to dinner with that guy's radio show, Big Dick Hunter.
Okay, yeah.
joe rogan
The Dallas guy.
al madrigal
Richard Hunter, yeah.
He's a good guy.
And so we're there and his wife works at the Lodge, which is a great strip club.
We're talking about strip clubs being seedy after you have kids and shit like that.
This is a really fucking nice one.
It's top notch.
I mean, that's the thing.
It's like the higher quality.
I seem to enjoy everything luxury at this point.
joe rogan
Yeah, right.
al madrigal
Yeah.
I want everything to be top notch.
I've seen the best hotel room, you know, and shit like that.
And everything is going to be held up in comparison to that at this point.
Once you fly first class, it's difficult to fucking go on a Southwest flight crammed in.
joe rogan
I know.
You don't realize how things can be nice.
al madrigal
Holy shit.
Everything can be nice.
And the same thing is true with strip clubs.
You know, like there's the bad ones.
It's disgusting.
Like you said, becoming a germaphobe.
You know, and I'm thinking about all these other dudes.
I was in Tempe, and it was early on in my comedy career.
I went to a strip club during the day.
That's what you do.
Check right in right during the day.
joe rogan
By the way, you now have 3,148 followers.
al madrigal
That's amazing.
joe rogan
We just gave you like 400 followers.
al madrigal
Easily.
unidentified
Bam!
al madrigal
Boom, like that.
You guys respond.
I fucking like it.
joe rogan
Respect.
I'm sorry.
So you went to a strip club during the day.
al madrigal
Strip club during the day.
joe rogan
Which is never a good time, right?
al madrigal
Never a good time.
I remember going to a bachelor party and this strip club was one of the best places.
Like fantasy sequence.
Two girls at one time.
It was half off beers, half off lap dances.
unidentified
Wow.
al madrigal
Or five lap dances for one or some crazy thing.
joe rogan
Five lap dances for one.
al madrigal
No, it was a dream sequence for a strip club.
Perfect ASU chicks well before being married.
And I go in there, and during the day when I was by myself, old guy just in the corner in a wheelchair, and this girl, he's a regular, and this girl who's really hot goes up to him and starts rubbing on him, and I was looking at her before, and she starts like, he's like, hey John, how are you today?
Did you get the grilled cheese?
And like having a small talk.
And she spends like 30 minutes with him and then comes directly up to me afterwards and goes, do you want dance?
I looked at her and I go, no!
Absolutely not!
What the fuck?
You see what you just did?
You just rubbed up against death and I'm gonna fucking get a lap dance?
It's disgusting!
So I'm saying this place, The Lodge in Dallas, is actually really fucking nice and beautiful.
joe rogan
Not like that place.
al madrigal
Not like the place with the old lady.
joe rogan
There's a tricky thing, man, with old dudes, man.
Old dudes, like, they get taken at strip clubs all the time.
You know, they become, like, a part of the landscape.
When Eddie Bravo used to be a DJ at his strip club, I used to go and visit him.
al madrigal
Of course he was.
joe rogan
For years.
For, like, ten years.
unidentified
That's awesome.
joe rogan
And I would go and visit him at work, and he had, like, you get to know the ecosystem of the place.
You get to know how it works.
And you get to see, like, he was dating this girl, right?
And the girl was over by the DJ booth, and I'm talking to her.
And I'm like, yeah, so what's going on, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know, we're just talking.
She's talking totally normal like this.
And all of a sudden, this guy walks in.
And the guy had, like, a postal worker's jacket on.
So he's not a guy who makes a ton of money, right?
He works for the post office.
unidentified
Post office, great.
joe rogan
So he comes in.
He's got a baseball hat on.
Looks like he's probably about 50. And she all of a sudden turns it on.
And I saw it.
And it was shocking.
It was like when you see your cat kill a mouse for the first time.
You ever see a cat kill a mouse?
And you love that cat.
But all of a sudden, bang!
That cat is fucking this mouse up.
And you're like, whoa, you evil bitch.
I never knew this about you.
Well, I'm talking to her.
She seems totally normal.
And this guy comes in.
She's like...
unidentified
Hey baby!
joe rogan
And she comes running over to this guy and you can see this poor fuck is just smitten.
He's just so sad.
She's like, oh my god, you're here!
And she puts her one hand on his lower back and one hand on his chest, and he's got his arms around her, both of them, clasped behind him, and she's rubbing up against him.
I'm like, whoa, I'm watching a victim.
She's going to inject him with venom and suck all the money out of him.
This guy had bought her a truck.
He bought her a Yukon Denali.
She was having problems with her car, so he bought her a fucking car, an expensive one, one of those super luxuried-out Denalis.
Just like Cadillacs, like Escalades.
al madrigal
No, just as nice, but just with trunk space.
joe rogan
Dude, it was the craziest thing ever.
I was watching it, and it was like, whoa.
But this is nature, man.
This is just as natural as any other thing.
Just as natural as a...
A bug that gets caught in a spider's web and gets zapped with venom.
al madrigal
And also marriage.
A lot of these guys married way too early.
I mean, just think back then they were getting married to 20, 25. So they're trapped in these relationships.
They grow into different people.
It's no wonder there's so much divorce.
So then you're trapped with this woman who just becomes fucking nasty.
And then they get those mom haircuts so they all look like they have that little lesbian mom haircut about them.
And like denim jeans and all kinds of weird mom jeans.
They give up all together on their bodies.
And then he can go to a strip club and be with a 10. And all it costs is maybe $22,000 after you get that car wholesale.
And here he's got this 10 that's just all over him on a regular basis.
joe rogan
That was apparently his modus operandi, this guy's thing.
Was to come there after work and just hang out.
He would hang out for hours and hours and hours and just give this chick all of his money.
Like literally gave this chick all of his money.
Every day it was like a new thousand.
Thousand here, thousand there, thousand here, thousand there.
al madrigal
That's another part with strip clubs is I'm too worried.
I started thinking like, if I took this money and went to Osh...
unidentified
Oshkosh?
al madrigal
What is Oshkosh?
Orchard supply hardware.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
House supplies?
al madrigal
Yeah, that's funny.
I've got to work on my place.
Stripper money cuts into my home.
joe rogan
That's mad money.
That's like, I'm a baller.
al madrigal
Seriously, yeah, taking it and throwing it away.
Let's throw away all this money.
brian redban
I think about that all the time, even if it's going out drinking or something like that.
I'm like, shit, I just, you know, went out to eat and I spent, you know, $60.
I could have went and bought a, you know, fucking grocery.
I hate that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can get, like, the best steak ever at a supermarket for, like, $20.
brian redban
Yeah, not even with $20.
joe rogan
Well, if you get a big, fat, thick one, aren't they, like, $20?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Stakes are like 20 bucks.
al madrigal
Well, that's like also riding the wave of these comedy careers because sometime point you can get, like look at a guy like Elon Gold, you know, the comic.
He's always been on shows.
He was on that show, Stacked with Pamela Anderson.
He was on, you know, he's been on sitcoms.
He's got four kids.
joe rogan
Wow, does he really?
al madrigal
Yeah.
He's an impressionist who looks like Elon Gold, Seinfeld, and shit like that.
He does a lot of good impressions.
He's a very good impressionist.
joe rogan
He does good impressions of comics.
al madrigal
Yeah, he's very funny.
Anyway, so he is on these shows, and the shows go away.
And he has to sort of ride it out and save as much money as he possibly can.
I'm in the same boat.
It's like, I got a deal, and then I have nothing.
joe rogan
Well, the key is to keep the stand-up going so that you always have something.
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, if your stand-up is strong and you headline all over the country and you get a big following and, you know, especially develop an internet presence, then you don't have to ever worry about things.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Because you always got money coming in.
al madrigal
And you can always sort of hustle.
I mean, I'm not making a ton of money doing stand-up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
But I can make a living.
I can definitely make what some of that guy in the post office does.
unidentified
But you could.
joe rogan
But listen, you could be making a ton of money doing stand-up.
You have the comedy chops.
It's just a matter of getting your comedy out there to more people.
It's not that you don't have a great product.
unidentified
No, no, no.
al madrigal
That's the thing.
People come out to see me live.
It's nothing but good shows.
Bill Burr, I talk to him a lot, and he told me it's killing an obscurity.
He goes, 2001 to 2006 was my killing an obscurity phase.
He goes, I was just crushing it everywhere you go.
Nobody knows who the fuck you are.
And then it just starts to snowball and snowball, and you get on this thing, and that thing happens.
And it's just getting the people in the notoriety...
To have people be familiar with your shit.
And then, you know, it'll just all start to fucking happen.
joe rogan
Yeah, the key is just to keep doing comedy.
When I was on news radio, like, I was always constantly getting encouraged by people to not do it anymore.
They were like, why do comedy?
You're an actor now.
al madrigal
Look at, like, Paul Reiser, who just could have been, you know, Seinfeld kept going, all these guys.
Ray Romano still does stand-up.
Kevin James, I think, is still going out.
joe rogan
Reiser doesn't do it at all anymore?
al madrigal
Reiser just stopped all...
I was like, thank God.
unidentified
You know what?
joe rogan
Working with Helen Hunt for 10 years probably just crushes every comedy instinct you have.
Every day, you're probably like, what the fuck am I doing for money?
al madrigal
I mean, Michael Keaton was a stand-up.
There's all these actors.
unidentified
I don't know Michael Keaton.
al madrigal
Michael Keaton.
I haven't seen any Michael Keaton stand-up.
joe rogan
Batman was a stand-up.
brian redban
What happened to Michael Keaton?
joe rogan
Stopped working.
al madrigal
He's still a shit?
No, he's working.
joe rogan
For a long time, though, he stopped.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Did he?
Yeah.
He dropped off and became this kind of character actor guy.
He went from being this main movie star to a break, and then now he's a character actor, which is really kind of a fascinating transition.
al madrigal
Well, he was in the movie The Good Guys with the other guys.
joe rogan
Will Ferrell.
Will Ferrell.
I didn't see that.
al madrigal
Was it good?
He's really funny then.
He's bringing up TLC references.
joe rogan
It's just weird that, you know, he was a giant movie star at one point in time, remember?
The clone movie?
al madrigal
He was fucking Batman!
brian redban
Three Men and a Baby, remember that?
joe rogan
Was he in that?
brian redban
Wasn't he?
al madrigal
Tom Guttenberg was in that with...
joe rogan
Steve Guttenberg.
al madrigal
Steve Guttenberg, sorry.
joe rogan
Here's a Steve Guttenberg story.
Steve Guttenberg, you know, he's lost his mind.
Yeah, and he used to be, another one, he used to be a big movie star, and now the guy can't get arrested, he doesn't do anything.
Well, the day Phil Hartman was murdered...
Steve Guttenberg shows up at Phil Hartman's house.
He didn't know Phil.
I mean, if he knew him, he knew him casually.
He didn't know him like I knew him or somebody who worked with him on Saturday Night Live might have known him.
He barely knew the guy.
So he shows up with a fucking suit and tie standing in front of Phil Hartman's house and acting as a liaison between the entertainment industry and the press.
And trying to ask the press to use respect and to use good judgment.
No way!
Wow!
To leave his family alone in this trying time.
And the way he did it was...
al madrigal
What a Weasley move.
joe rogan
It was so creepy, dude.
It was so like, this poor fucking guy.
Something happened.
He blew a fuse or something.
He must have had some sort of a breakdown.
Because the idea of him even doing this...
brian redban
Was he his neighbor or anything?
joe rogan
No!
Nowhere near him.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
There was a few famous neighbors, too.
He lived down the street from Sam Adams.
Not Sam Adams.
Samuel Jackson.
Sam Adams.
The fuck's wrong with me?
I mean, he had a bunch of famous neighbors.
And it wasn't someone saying, hey, this is my neighbor, please leave him alone.
It was a guy who just shows up and he says, the cameras are going to be here.
I'm just going to get on camera and I'm going to speak for the...
And he thought, he was like, yeah, it's some sort of a message.
But the real message that everybody was getting out of it was like, Why the fuck is Steve Guttenberg there with a suit and tie on in front of a murder scene?
unidentified
Well, that's the same thing.
al madrigal
Do you remember Brian Holtzman at the Freddy Soto Memorial?
Did you ever hear about that?
joe rogan
No.
al madrigal
Where he goes, just yells out, and, um, half you motherfuckers here don't even know Freddy.
unidentified
Just trying to fucking see if there's a manager or an agent.
You fucking fuck!
al madrigal
Yeah, let me hear, everybody.
Look at all you motherfuckers.
joe rogan
It's true, though.
He's right.
al madrigal
One of Freddie's friends admitted to never being a virgin during the memorial.
He goes, I knew Freddie would get the biggest kick out of this, so I'm going to do it.
He goes, I need to tell everybody right now.
He goes, I'm a virgin.
Oldsman goes up after him and goes, first line is, he goes, I'll fuck that virgin.
It's a memorial.
The place goes...
joe rogan
Oh my God.
al madrigal
I mean, that's how funny Holtzman is.
Anyway, so he then proceeds to say, look at you motherfuckers, like all looking around like somebody's here.
And then Joey Diaz, the best thing at the Marilyn Martinez memorial, went off on this guy, Jeff Valdez.
unidentified
I think he's just, look at everybody, Jeff Valdez is there.
Fuck you, Jeff Valdez.
al madrigal
You know, just fucking, you cocksucker.
unidentified
Marilyn fucking hated you, and we all fucking hate you.
al madrigal
Fuck you, Jeff, at the memorial.
unidentified
Marilyn would love to fuck, and then I'm doing this for you now.
al madrigal
Joey, it was one of the...
Wow, I didn't even know that.
I had my hands on my face, and I was going, thank you, Joey.
Thank you, Joey.
joe rogan
Is the guy that much of a douchebag?
al madrigal
He's a douchebag, you know?
He's like one of these guys who would, you step on your own fucking mother.
That's what he's yelling at.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's what Joey was yelling at?
al madrigal
Because he knew Marilyn would love it.
Just like that guy told the story.
He goes, Marilyn would want me to do this right now.
joe rogan
And she would.
And she would.
al madrigal
I went on the road with her.
This is weird.
I mean, I've been on the road with Marilyn Martinez, Mitch Hedberg, This other guy passed away, Dan Crawford, that I was very good friends with, was in San Francisco, which is horrible.
We do a benefit, if you ever did San Francisco Punchline, the Dan Crawford Memorial Fund.
You know, we give a comic a free liquor tab for the whole year.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
al madrigal
Because this guy was just a great guy, a great partier, and he was one of my good friends, and he just fucking died.
Get away from me.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sorry, yeah.
al madrigal
Brian just moved away.
He went to the hospital.
He was a comic living in his dad's basement.
joe rogan
Okay.
al madrigal
And he went to the hospital with a headache, a public hospital.
He didn't have insurance.
He's a comic.
unidentified
Right.
al madrigal
24 years old.
And they said, no, we can't help you.
And they sent him away.
And then he went back and said, it's really bad.
You've got to help me.
And they gave him Vicodin.
And he went back to the garage.
And they found him convulsing on the floor.
unidentified
Oh, jeez.
al madrigal
Because he had, bacteria had gotten in his brain.
unidentified
Oh.
al madrigal
And had they seen him the first time when he walked in, he would totally be alive.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
al madrigal
He was just a comic.
He was a kid without health insurance.
So, I mean, if anybody's up in the Bay Area, I'm doing the Dan Crawford scholarship thing in March, and we raise money to give to a free clinic.
joe rogan
How would they find out about the date?
brian redban
Twitter?
al madrigal
Yeah, I'll definitely put it on Twitter.
joe rogan
Okay, so Al Magical on Twitter.
Wow, man.
al madrigal
So that shit happens all the time.
So I've been around all these guys.
I mean, and Greg Geraldo I've been friends with.
joe rogan
Did you know about Jerry Red Wilson?
Did you know Jerry Wilson?
al madrigal
You know, I heard that happening, but I didn't know the guy.
joe rogan
Jerry Red Wilson is another great guy.
I knew him from the scene in New York.
Really funny guy.
A lot of ethnic humor.
Irish kid.
They call him Jerry Red Wilson.
Gets a pilot.
His pilot's in the middle of shooting.
I think it went, but it got canceled.
Anyway, he's always working.
He's in the mix.
And he's got a headache.
He's got some fucking problem.
He goes to the hospital, and he's waiting in line.
I guess he's waiting in the waiting room for like an hour and a half.
And he can't take it anymore.
Fuck this.
I'm getting out of here.
And he has to go to Hawaii to film the Fantasy Island, the new version of Fantasy Island.
And by the time he gets there, he's so fucked up that he dies.
He had meningitis.
And he had green shit leaking out of his ears.
He had some serious fucking infection in his brain.
And he just let it go.
al madrigal
You need to find a place where you can go get checked out.
joe rogan
Well, he had money.
That's the problem.
al madrigal
But he just ignored the shit.
joe rogan
He was one of those impatient guys.
Fuck this.
I ain't got time for this.
Let's get out of here.
His career was taking off.
He had a million things going on.
He was one of those guys you would talk to him and he was just so obsessed with it.
He was like, well, we've got a deal right now with Universal.
If that doesn't get picked up, we've got more.
He was hustling.
al madrigal
He was hustling, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was making it happen.
So for him, that hour and a half sitting in that waiting room was just killing him.
So he leaves and he fucking dies.
You know?
Shit.
al madrigal
And you're not supposed to fly with a sinus infection.
They tell you that all the time.
You're not supposed to fly with that shit at all.
joe rogan
I flew once when I had pneumonia.
al madrigal
I've flown when I've...
Because I've got to get to a stupid gig.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
And I just...
I'll fly.
When I go to the Pacific Northwest, it feels like my head's going to fucking explode.
joe rogan
Wow.
al madrigal
So you do that shit all the time and you...
I mean, you've got to...
Sometimes I get a little overboard hypochondriac a little bit.
joe rogan
Well, you know, I got sick for the first time this year in fucking years.
I haven't gotten sick.
And I slacked off.
And here's one of the reasons why.
I take a lot of probiotics.
I drink like kombucha.
This kombucha tea.
It's fucking super good for your health.
al madrigal
Coconut juice is healthy.
joe rogan
Coconut juice is great too.
But what happened with kombucha is they got in trouble with Whole Foods because their shit was more than one half of 1% alcohol.
So it has to be labeled.
So they watered the fuck down.
They watered their formula, like seriously watered it down.
Where it tastes like shit.
It does not taste near, it's GT's kombucha.
It used to taste awesome.
It was like very carbonated, very strong, and I really enjoyed the flavor.
But then it became like this, like, literally it feels like it's half water and half what it used to be.
And I just, I think it's not nearly as active, like the probiotics in it.
I don't think they're nearly as strong.
So I got sick, like for the first time ever.
brian redban
Do you really think that's why you got sick?
joe rogan
Yeah, you know why?
Absolutely.
This is why I think it, because I've never been sick before and I've been drinking that shit almost every day.
So it changes within a month.
Of it changing, I go and I get sick for the first time.
I really think that makes sense.
al madrigal
I went to a vitamin shop and I walked in there and I was deathly ill.
And I said, what are you selling all the time that works for immunity?
And I stuff flying off the shelf.
unidentified
What is it?
al madrigal
And he took me to a thing called Sambucol, black elderberry shit that you drink and there's pills for it.
I would take that on a regular basis whenever I get sick.
Cleaned right off.
I mean, it really does work.
joe rogan
There are definitely probiotics, and what they do is they attack all the negative shit in your body, all the unhealthy bacteria.
It's like you're keeping healthy troops on hand.
Acidophilus is a big one.
I hadn't taken acidophilus in forever.
The reason why is because I was drinking this kombucha all the time.
I was like, I don't need to supplement with acidophilus.
I'm getting plenty of probiotics from this.
So then once this stuff went bad, I started taking acidophilus again.
Now I take acidophilus every day.
al madrigal
That's in milk?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a milk culture.
Yogurt.
You can buy it in pills.
You can buy it on live form.
You have to keep it refrigerated.
You know, but it's, you know...
Especially as you get older, man.
You start being real cognizant of your health.
al madrigal
Yeah, I go to a gym and I've been trying to go every single day.
My resolution is holding up so far.
And even if I can just go for a little bit, I get my heart going and I stretch.
I'm just trying to keep everything in shape.
joe rogan
If you don't talk into the microphone, dude, your voice varies significantly.
al madrigal
Sorry, I'm looking at you at the same time.
joe rogan
No, it's alright.
Let's turn so we don't have to do that.
Because your voice is real low and then all of a sudden it's real high.
So the people on the ecliptical machine right now with their headphones in, they're like, it's fucking Al Magical.
Tell them where the mic is.
al madrigal
Sorry, that's not disturbing.
joe rogan
See where the sign is, where the words are?
Yeah.
That's the part we should talk to.
al madrigal
Ah, perfect.
I was on the top of it.
joe rogan
You were ready, dude.
You were right there.
Anyway, so you go to the gym.
al madrigal
Yeah, taking better care of myself.
I feel like I could, when I saw that UFC fight for the first time, I felt like I could fucking get in there and fuck somebody up.
I certainly feel like I have the mindset for it.
Like, I really feel like I could kick somebody's ass.
I used to fire people.
You know that was my job when you first met me, is that I, like, up in the air with George Clooney?
brian redban
Yeah.
al madrigal
I used to be, I terminated over a thousand people.
Wow.
Yeah.
I was like, that was my job at my parents' family business, is that I used to be the fucking hatchet, man.
brian redban
Wow, you got some Negative karma shit going on.
al madrigal
Well, no, they deserved it for the most part.
But sometimes it's an unfortunate time.
It's like a privilege to be working and having somebody pay you.
If you had a fucking employee and you didn't have the money anymore, there's nothing else we can do.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of different ways of looking at this economy being all fucked up.
And I see some people who are very pragmatic look at it like, hey, you know what, these jobs...
These jobs that these people are losing, these jobs weren't important in the first place.
These motherfuckers, you know, we lost all our jobs overseas, and what we need to do is strengthen our economy, and this is just a symptom of a bigger evil.
I see that on an individual, one-on-one basis, man.
Whenever I think about these people that are going broke, and people that are losing their houses, and people that don't know what to do, especially if I think that they're dumb, And that their occupation options are limited and then they have children and shit too.
It's like, fuck, man.
These poor fucks were led to believe that this whole thing, that this ship was going to sail.
It's going to be fine.
al madrigal
Well, also it's what you were talking about with stand-up.
If you just decide to check out and work and you reach a $30,000 job and you say, this is it.
This is all I need.
joe rogan
Right.
al madrigal
My father-in-law did that shit.
He's the type of guy who would go and sit in a big recliner and get like a thirsty two-ouncer and just fucking sit there and watch TV. No aspirations to do anything.
And he plays golf, but people are fucking like that.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people like that.
al madrigal
A lot of people like that.
You just become complacent.
You're like, this is good right here.
joe rogan
I don't know if it's bad.
I think there's a machine going on, man.
I think we're all little pieces of this fucking giant machine.
And I think you can look at it like what you're doing is very important and that what you're doing has meaning to it.
But really it has meaning to you and has meaning to the people who like it.
But what is its place in the overall grand scheme?
I don't know, man.
These people sitting there with drinks, they might be onto something.
They might be onto something.
al madrigal
The guy who was the bouncer.
Just sat there with the power and no job.
joe rogan
That guy was not onto something.
I don't believe that.
I think that guy needs to get a real fucking job.
A 40-year-old super genius.
al madrigal
Yeah, we need all the super geniuses.
joe rogan
Telling people not to puke on his shoes.
al madrigal
Yeah, working on good projects.
Yeah, no hats!
unidentified
Fuck!
al madrigal
Aren't you a super genius?
Yeah, no hats.
joe rogan
Yeah, no hats.
My favorite is, like, they tell you how to wear your hat.
Like, no hats backwards.
Like, I like wearing hats backwards.
al madrigal
That's how I wear hats.
joe rogan
Especially because when I play pool, I can see the balls better.
I don't want a big fucking floppy bill.
But I went into a pool hall once and the guy's like, you gotta turn your cap around.
Like, what?
You gotta turn my hat around?
Like, really?
That's your rule?
al madrigal
That's sloppy.
And hat around in front ways.
Oh, that's fucking so much better.
I look like a Ken member.
Yeah.
Especially when you wear it up high a little bit.
joe rogan
Oh, the other thing was no wallet chains.
Couldn't have wallet chains either.
I had to put my wallet chain in my pocket.
al madrigal
Choke out.
brian redban
Gotham Comedy Club, remember that?
joe rogan
Did they have no wallet chains?
brian redban
No, no hats allowed at Gotham Comedy Club.
I'm like, this is a comedy club.
And they were still getting it on me while you were filming there.
And I'm like, no, I'm with Joe.
And they still were like, can you take it off?
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
Come on.
joe rogan
That's so silly.
brian redban
What looks worse, a hat or a hat head?
Definitely a hat head.
joe rogan
Well, who's getting offended by hats?
I mean, it's one thing if you're wearing some crazy fucking Phyllis Dillard thing with feathers and no one can see behind you.
brian redban
Fucking Charlie Chaplin was the last person to be offended by a hat.
Or somebody back in the day where they'd take off hats every time they eat.
Sure it is.
al madrigal
It's sort of a Three Stooges.
They invade the rich people's party.
joe rogan
Another one of my favorites is when you go somewhere and they say, your shirt has to have a collar.
brian redban
Yeah.
We talked about that before in the podcast.
al madrigal
Or it's like in a lot of parks in LA, a big sign says, no soccer, no parties.
And no soccer, no parties.
Why not just say, no Mexicans?
brian redban
Yeah.
al madrigal
Please, Mexicans elsewhere.
No soccer.
Why would you not want soccer?
I guess people are trying to have picnics.
brian redban
Right.
al madrigal
Can you play football?
If you're white, I think you can sort of do things.
joe rogan
Do whatever you want.
al madrigal
But if a Latino soccer game breaks out, which they've been known to in Los Angeles...
joe rogan
They stop it.
al madrigal
They stop it.
unidentified
No, thank you.
joe rogan
That's hilarious, man.
It's a fucking park.
Are they thinking that they dominate the park and they make it unsafe for whites?
unidentified
No.
al madrigal
I have no idea.
brian redban
They just live there.
joe rogan
I know.
I don't get it.
al madrigal
What's wrong with it?
The old white guy is at the top of that.
He's making that decision.
joe rogan
Is that what that is?
al madrigal
That's got to be.
joe rogan
Trying to bring it back to the way it was in the 50s.
al madrigal
Sure.
No Latino park disturbance.
I watched a Mad Men where they're at a park and they take their big blanket and they just dump the thing and shake out the blanket and all the garbage just goes everywhere and then they just walk away.
That's how they used to do this shit.
Just litter.
And our public parks were just completely...
You were talking about earlier with the water supply.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's how people used to rock it?
al madrigal
Just fucking throw a Coke out the window.
brian redban
Out the window.
Yeah.
joe rogan
People still do that all the time with cigarettes.
Do you do that, Brian?
Please say you don't.
brian redban
No, no.
I knock the cherry off into a...
Usually I have like a can in my car.
And then I just...
al madrigal
I've seen people throw Burger King bags out the window.
I honked.
I don't know why I honked.
I just fucking honked.
Like, hey, that's fucked up.
And a big hand came out and just went...
joe rogan
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, there's a lot of cunts out there.
al madrigal
We're four Samoan teenagers.
joe rogan
You know what I see a lot, man?
I see fucking Priuses.
Those Toyota Priuses.
And then I see the person driving the Prius flick a cigarette out the window.
I see that shit all the time.
al madrigal
Save the earth!
joe rogan
I mark it down.
I see it so many times I mark it down.
I've seen it seven times.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Seven times over the past three years that I've been looking for it.
brian redban
You know, it's definitely something that That people do in other states all the time.
And then in California, they don't do it.
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
People do it less here.
al madrigal
Littering quite a bit in the Midwest.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
You don't even think about it in Ohio.
That's just what everyone does.
Like, I didn't get it until when I first moved out here and you got mad at me because I flicked my cigarette on the ground and you got mad at me.
I'm like, what?
It's just a cigarette.
And then you were like, pick that up, Brian, blah, blah.
I'm like...
Never heard anyone tell me to pick up a cigarette.
There's a lot of people in this.
joe rogan
Where do you think the cigarettes are going?
al madrigal
There's a lot of people burning trash in their backyard as well.
Like, that shit's happening.
That's happening, I mean, I'm sure people are listening where that's commonly done or you have...
joe rogan
Alright, all this douchey behavior.
How do you stop it?
What the fuck do you do to change people?
What do you do to turn people around?
What do you do?
al madrigal
You just gotta just concentrate on yourself.
I mean, you could volunteer or something and try to help.
I mean, you could go the extra step.
I mean, if you can't control your own shit, first of all, like, my wife is recycling, like, everything.
I get yelled at for not putting something in the fucking recycling.
joe rogan
Mine does too, yeah.
al madrigal
Okay.
But meanwhile, some Chinese guy down the block is burning a tire.
You know?
unidentified
It's fucking...
What the fuck?
al madrigal
I mean, how am I supposed to, like, really care that much to get separated out?
The homeless people are coming by, too, in my neighborhood and rooting through everything.
unidentified
Really?
al madrigal
They're, like, sorting it.
It'll get sorted out eventually.
Shit.
So, like, anyway.
But how are you supposed to care?
You can only worry about yourself.
And that's the same thing with stand-up.
And, like, that's what we've been talking about the entire time.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But as a whole, if you looked at the human race or looked at just the human race in America, you know, the ones that we understand, the culture that we understand.
al madrigal
Sure.
joe rogan
How the fuck do you fix it?
How do you fix this culture?
al madrigal
Is everyone getting organized?
One common goal of living in harmony and in a safe and clean environment?
There'd be no crime and shit like that?
joe rogan
That guy throwing Burger King bags out his window and giving you the finger.
How do you connect to that guy?
al madrigal
We're fucked.
I don't think there's any way to connect to that guy.
Because that guy maybe was brought up in a house where he was a homeless kid and didn't have anything.
He's got this horrible fucking life.
joe rogan
What if he's just a douchebag?
Just a fat douchebag and his dad's a fat douchebag?
al madrigal
Look, I've got all kinds of things.
Like, when I see people on pay phones, I'm like, there is no reason why you shouldn't have a fucking cell phone.
joe rogan
Well, if you're broke.
al madrigal
No, I'm just talking about, like, there's, I mean, they're giving them away.
And, like, if you're broke and you're on a pay phone, it's used for something illegal.
Tap every single fucking one of those and just arrest those fucking people.
Seriously.
joe rogan
That's funny.
That could easily just be broke people, dude.
Or someone who loses their phone.
al madrigal
40 ounce?
joe rogan
You sound like an elitist.
al madrigal
A 40 ounce?
Nothing good has ever come from it.
joe rogan
They're great.
If you want to watch Superfly and review it, they're the best thing to drink.
I did that once with a buddy of mine.
We watched...
al madrigal
Country Club.
joe rogan
What is that?
al madrigal
Country Club is another one.
joe rogan
What is it?
al madrigal
It's another malt liquor.
joe rogan
Oh, is it?
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
We had Old English and there was another one.
Fuck.
I forget what it was.
But there's a bunch of those that are only, they're really marketed, something King Cobra, I think it was, marketed for the black community, like straight up.
You know, the smooth taste, it goes down easy.
Like even the way it's written, like the ads are written.
It's just like, just straight to the African American community.
And when you start drinking that stuff, those are so strong We are so strong, and you don't give a fuck.
You drink that shit, you don't give a fuck.
brian redban
I used to drink Boons.
Is that what it's called?
Like Strawberry Farm Boons?
al madrigal
Oh, there's Night Train.
joe rogan
What is that?
Boons Strawberry Farm.
al madrigal
It's like a sweet wine.
brian redban
Yeah, it was like a sweet wine that was marketed to taste really good.
al madrigal
Grape wine.
joe rogan
Like grape juice.
Yeah, grape juice for black people.
al madrigal
Purple drink.
It really is, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, how do you fix that?
al madrigal
Well, there's also Cisco and all that shit.
I mean, just really high alcohol content.
joe rogan
Well, you know that Loco, Four Loco?
Do you hear about that one?
al madrigal
I had it on New Year's.
joe rogan
You're pulling it off the market?
al madrigal
Oh, yeah.
Somebody had it on New Year's at that Woolly Barsen show that I was talking about.
I took a shot of it.
unidentified
I was up all night with heart palpitations.
al madrigal
I really felt like it was the Four Loco really fucked me up.
joe rogan
I've heard people died off of it.
brian redban
Yeah, a couple people are.
al madrigal
It's a band, and somebody had a big-ass can.
They go, Al, you've got to try the Four Locos Band.
I go, I'll just take a sip of it.
joe rogan
You only took one sip and it jacked you.
al madrigal
Dude, I feel like it fucked my whole night.
I had the most surreal New Year's Sacramento punchline.
It's in a strip mall next to a sleep train.
And I was at the...
How about Arden Mall?
It's in a strip mall.
It is at Barber College.
You've been to that place, haven't you?
brian redban
A cell phone store.
joe rogan
A mattress store.
al madrigal
It's just in a strip mall.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
It's upstairs, big mattress store.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
al madrigal
All kinds of weird shops.
Red Lobster next to a Tony Roma's, next to an Outback.
unidentified
Right.
al madrigal
Like, just nothing.
joe rogan
Right.
al madrigal
And I'm in there on New Year's, and people had paid $50 a ticket to go to this New Year's show.
And it was a good show.
I mean, I didn't get up there and half-ass fucking $50 a ticket.
But...
It was weird.
I mean, spending your New Year's in a fucking strip mall, dancing.
Some guy wore Dom Perignon at a strip mall, and he's trying to show off in front of his girlfriend, and a fight broke out because somebody spilled it.
unidentified
Wow.
Oh, really?
al madrigal
It was a whole weird, and I was filming the whole thing.
I was filming this old lady.
unidentified
On your flip?
al madrigal
I really was on my flip.
I'm going to add the video.
I'll make sure I put that on Twitter as well.
People came up to me and was like, are you filming our mom?
I go, no, I'm not filming her.
I sort of was filming their mom.
joe rogan
Right.
al madrigal
Not really.
You couldn't make out who it was in my flip camera.
joe rogan
Right.
al madrigal
And then the kid who's the son of the mom who was dancing, who was dancing really fucking funny with this young Latino kid and she was old and this Latino kid was just dry humping her on the dance floor.
So I'm like, this is my New Year's.
You know, what a horrible fucking New Year's.
And they came up and the guy says, I've been looking for an excuse to kick your ass the whole night.
unidentified
Oh.
al madrigal
I go, why?
Where'd that come from?
I haven't fucking done anything.
Like, it was a horrible fucking New Year's.
brian redban
Sounds better in the mind, though.
At least you were outside of the house.
Stayed in?
joe rogan
Brian had a fight with his girl on New Year's, man.
brian redban
Yeah, my girl left me.
joe rogan
His girl left him on New Year's, man.
al madrigal
That same girl we were talking about?
joe rogan
Not only does girl leave my New Year's.
brian redban
Trashy vixen.
It's a long story.
al madrigal
That's not cool.
joe rogan
We'll have to play that Prince song again.
brian redban
Trust me, it's probably the best this time around.
joe rogan
Last time she broke up with him, we had to play the Prince song.
I got a broken heart again.
unidentified
I got a broken heart again.
al madrigal
Do you really feel bad about it?
brian redban
No, I don't feel bad at all.
joe rogan
You know what it's like, man?
This is what I described it.
It's the same way I describe people who are douching you on the internet, that it's like a little bit of snake venom.
A little bit of snake venom gets you immune to snake venom.
So that snake, after it bites you three or four times, after a while, you're like, hey, get the fuck out of here.
You're not poisoning me anymore.
brian redban
She was one of those relationships where like we would break up and then, you know, something happened and then I would take her back just because I know how broken she is.
And then this third time was just like so quick and fast.
Like we started dating again.
Next thing I know, she's almost moved in.
She's talking about getting married.
And like this is like in two weeks.
And she just got out of a relationship where this guy like cheated on her or something like that.
And it was the most intense zero to 60 in two weeks.
And then one day, just out of nowhere, she just started going crazy, picking fights with me out of nowhere.
I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Next thing I know, next day, she's tweeting her ex-boyfriend, like, pictures together, like...
What the fuck is going on?
And I keep on finding all this shit she left at my house.
And one of the things is, she had a memory card in my camera that she must have used in my camera.
And the funniest thing is, pictures of her and this guy, and then the next day, pictures of me and her.
It's like your life.
Doing the exact same poses.
Like arms around each other.
That's hilarious.
And it was like two days.
It was actually two days.
al madrigal
It's like you're photoshopped in over that other guy.
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Well, you know what it is?
And this is how I describe it to you.
There's some people that are addicted to that charge of an initial relationship when someone is just in love with you.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You know, when you meet someone, man, and you fucking really click, and you're hanging out, and you're fucking like four or five times a day, and you're just kissing all the time, and you can't wait to see him, that's like an intense fucking, you know, intense romantic thing.
And then...
al madrigal
I got married.
joe rogan
Yeah, it works that way sometimes.
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then when you're in a situation where, let's be quite honest about this, the girl perhaps might be a bit above you on the food chain.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Not a lot, but a bit, right?
brian redban
Happens.
joe rogan
Well, then you're stepping on eggshells because you're afraid of offending her because you're in a situation where you're like, Jesus, I don't want to fuck this up.
This is the greatest thing of all time.
This is so perfect.
al madrigal
She's got the perfect body.
joe rogan
I'm telling all my friends, dude, look at this picture.
Can you believe I'm fucking this?
This is insane.
And so then, you know, they get addicted to that really intense part of the relationship where you're just enamored by them.
And then as time goes on, you get comfortable with each other, and then she becomes your girlfriend.
And when she becomes your girlfriend...
Then you just kind of like lackadaisical around each other.
You don't care if your hair is fucked up.
You don't care if your breath smells.
brian redban
Pee with the door open.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't give a fuck.
brian redban
Hotbox each other.
joe rogan
And she doesn't give a fuck either.
And so it becomes some weird thing where you just get real comfortable with each other and you don't fuck as much.
And then some other guy comes along and that other guy shows the same potential for being the guy that's so in love with you and this is it.
It's supposed to be about us.
We've had some problems in the past.
We're going to fucking stick together forever till death.
We're going to have babies.
Yes!
And then the rage is on again and it's just this mad fucking crazy dash from one person to the next who can provide the next charge, the next beginning of the relationship, thunderous, orgasmic type of interaction.
brian redban
And it sucks because I've gotten to the age where I totally know that, you know?
And so I am like, this person gets hurt, and I'm like, you know, I want you to know.
I can tell you what happened to our relationship.
And, you know, we can really work this together.
And I'll do the stupid take girl back.
I need to, I don't know, I just need to stop.
joe rogan
No, you know what, man, listen.
brian redban
I need to stop dating girls and start dating guys.
unidentified
How old are you now?
al madrigal
Oh, that's it.
brian redban
You know, like all the shit that's at my house and I'm like, oh, wow, a sock, a bra.
And I'm like, I need to date guys because then they can leave things like, oh, Gillette Censorblades, Razor, you know, like a video game.
Oh, he left me a video game.
I hate the shit that girls leave over past relationships.
How old are you?
al madrigal
Oh, that's good.
brian redban
How old are you?
al madrigal
39. Oh.
brian redban
See, I thought you were way younger than me.
joe rogan
I think, you know, look, it's hard to find someone that you fucking jive with all the time.
al madrigal
Sure.
joe rogan
And sometimes people can keep it together for long stretches where they really are the perfect girlfriend.
For like two weeks, this crazy bitch really is the perfect girlfriend.
She's a lot of fun.
She wants to cook.
She's hilarious.
She cracks jokes.
I look forward to seeing her.
And then after that two weeks, the fucking crazy comes out.
And after the two weeks, it's what am I going to do for a living?
And what am I going to do for this?
And what happens when I get old?
And what am I going to do when I'm 50?
Sure.
brian redban
I want to date a blind deaf girl.
No.
joe rogan
But you gotta date, dude.
Ready for this?
You gotta date civilians.
You gotta date civilians.
unidentified
Absolutely.
al madrigal
My wife's a first grade teacher.
joe rogan
Bingo.
Perfect.
Civilian.
Listen, you're a creative weirdo, okay?
And if you're dating another creative weirdo, she's gonna be just as fucked up as you are, but in a way you can't understand because she's gonna be a woman.
brian redban
That's what the hardest part about living in California, though, is because 90% of the population is out here to be in the same entertainment industry.
unidentified
It's true.
al madrigal
There's a lot of regular nights.
I know some of my wife's teacher friends that are very single and available.
joe rogan
They're tainted.
brian redban
They're tainted.
joe rogan
They're out here.
Listen, they know Al Magical.
He's probably fucked them all on the side.
brian redban
Are we going to Texas anytime soon, Joe?
joe rogan
Dude, you've got to move to Colorado with me.
I'm moving back.
brian redban
Are you really?
joe rogan
I want my kids to be raised in Colorado.
brian redban
Texas.
joe rogan
I don't want my kids to be raised in California.
I think this place is just, it hums at too high a frequency.
al madrigal
Are you in a nice area?
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
And I want to go further out.
I want to live on a ranch, dude.
b-real
I like living in the woods.
joe rogan
That's where I live.
I want to live by a lake in the woods.
I like to be around nature.
I want to see deer that if shit goes bad, I can shoot those bitches and eat them.
al madrigal
That exists.
Why don't you go out to Palm Springs or into...
joe rogan
That's a desert, man.
You know what's out there?
Meth and gay people.
al madrigal
What about Arrowhead?
joe rogan
That's good.
That's a move.
That's a possibility.
al madrigal
I know a lot of people have to Arrowhead places, and you can get here quick, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, two hours.
I might look at getting maybe a vacation house someday in Arrowhead.
That would be the shit.
I just like living in the woods, man.
I loved living in Boulder.
I loved the idea that I would see, like, fucking deer every day driving home, that there was eagles flying overhead, that the sky was crystal.
brian redban
But those same deers that you see every day is going to jump in front of your car, and you're going to be like, fuck deers.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you know what?
Just get a big-ass bumper, and you're good.
brian redban
Yeah.
What about your wife?
joe rogan
I didn't even drive my car.
Yeah, that's the problem.
Mrs. Rogan's not so fucking good at driving in snow.
brian redban
Yeah, well, why even move somewhere where there's snow?
That's why you should go to Texas.
al madrigal
But also, if you go on the road and you sort of strand her out there in this cabin.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Well, that was part of the issue.
And then our dog got eaten by a mountain lion.
al madrigal
That's fucked up.
joe rogan
The real thing that sent us home, though, was that we were 8,500 feet above sea level and she got pregnant.
And when you're that high above sea level, if your body's...
Even if you're living there your whole life, the kid's still going to have to go on oxygen.
brian redban
No more kids, Joe?
joe rogan
It's scary.
brian redban
No more kids?
You stopping off at two?
joe rogan
No.
My loads are still fucking devastatingly good.
I'm ready.
al madrigal
I'll shoot another one in there.
joe rogan
It's hard, man.
Just taking care of two little babies at the same time, you know, one two and a half and one nine months old or seven months old, it's tricky.
al madrigal
So cute, though.
joe rogan
It's the greatest thing in the world.
I always tell people that kids...
And mushrooms are very similar.
And then if you've never experienced it, if you've never had your own kid, and if you've never really done mushrooms, shut the fuck up.
You really don't know.
I used to talk about kids.
I didn't understand what it was until you have a kid.
And the other thing that you understand is that...
Stop doing that.
Whatever you're doing.
brian redban
Coil.
joe rogan
The other thing that you realize when you have a kid is that you change and you hit some weird new next level of evolution where there's so much more at stake now.
You become a more serious person.
It's really weird.
al madrigal
I feel like a real man, too.
joe rogan
I feel like a man, exactly.
I mean, I'm still very silly.
I obviously make a living talking shit.
al madrigal
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
joe rogan
And I still smoke a lot of weed, which is also a weird thing with a lot of people.
They think for some reason or another you're not supposed to smoke weed.
You know, that like smoking weed when you're a father like sets some sort of a weird example or that it's a bad thing.
But, you know, I'll go, well, how come I can go to a restaurant and order a beer and nobody even blinks?
You know, that's fine.
Nobody says a word about that.
I go and get some wine, you know, with dinner.
Nobody looks at me.
They ask me if I want it.
If I said, no, but you guys got a place where I can hit this joint?
They'd be like, whoa, what the fuck?
Your children are here.
al madrigal
Either way, if you're too big, though, if you get too drunk, say you just get wasted, or some guy's just fucking crushing it and unable to operate.
If I get too high, I can't function.
And also, I'm really bad with booze, too.
Two drinks, I'm fucking tipsy.
unidentified
Are you serious?
al madrigal
I'm drunk.
brian redban
That's good to know in the future.
joe rogan
You're a lightweight.
You're a cheap date.
al madrigal
No, no, I am a lightweight.
joe rogan
Well, no, I definitely don't...
I don't think you should be drunk or high around your kids.
That's not what I'm saying.
But I'm saying, like, I'm not gonna change, like, who I am.
You know?
I don't have to, like, become this fucking straight-edge person just because all of a sudden I have children.
If I thought there was something wrong with smoking pot, I would have stopped doing it because I think it's bad for you.
If it was detrimental to my health or to my mental well-being or something, if I thought it was an issue that I needed to deal with, I would deal with it as an issue.
But I don't think there's an issue.
I think it's beneficial.
I think it helps my personality.
It helps me enjoy life.
It helps me write like crazy.
It is like steroids for writing.
When I get high and I write, I just strap in.
And ride this wave that I connect to.
I get high and I go into the isolation tank and I rethink my whole life and I come up with new strategies and new ways of behaving and I have a new appreciation for everything and a new respect and love for my friends and my family.
I wind up calling people that I haven't talked to in months just getting out of the tank.
Dude, I just want to tell you, man.
We don't hang out, but I love you, man.
We're friends.
I get these crazy conversations.
I just want to make sure I say all these things that I need to say.
It reinvigorates me.
al madrigal
But also being a dad helps that.
joe rogan
That does too.
al madrigal
The combination of the two things, people don't realize that that's there, is that You do feel like taking a step back and not taking things so seriously.
Even though I still get fired up, I keep everything in perspective pretty well, too.
I mean, I'm not making too many fucking stupid decisions over here.
joe rogan
Yeah, you get more in tune with love.
And that sounds fucking very gay.
unidentified
Super gay.
joe rogan
But it is what it is, man.
It's like you get more in tune with love.
And honestly, that's what weed is all about, too.
Weed is about getting you in tune with love.
Getting you in tune with happiness.
Weed is a happy drug.
It's about...
Friendships and hugs and having a good time and laughing and giggling together.
It's not a bad drug.
It's an entheogen.
And that's what people have to understand.
Everything is lumped together in this one big stupid group called drugs.
And included are caffeine and alcohol and then dangerous shit like heroin and fucking, you know, and meth and all those are drugs.
But there's also drugs that literally change the way your fucking mind works.
And in a good way.
And they're here to make you like more humble, make you feel better.
And the reason why people have bad trips is because there's a lot of shit about your life that's douchey, man.
You need to clean that shit up.
You know, why are you paranoid?
Why are you freaking out?
Well, you should be freaking out.
al madrigal
That's why people do a lot of drugs in college, too, when you're younger and you don't have as much responsibility.
But, I mean, more and more responsibility you have, and then when you do drugs, you start thinking about all that shit.
That's why people tend to freak out.
But if you're just more a carefree person in the first place, and the college is a perfect example, because you really don't have too many responsibilities.
You can go home by yourself for the first time and not have anybody scrutinize you once you get there.
And so it's an opportunity, no real bills to fucking pay if somebody's taking care of that.
So less responsibility and you can't just fucking let go completely.
But more and more shit that you've got going on, like a daughter.
And we talked about the porn thing with the daughter.
You just sort of put, you have more shit built up.
joe rogan
The thing about porn is, you know, I don't want to say why anybody gets into porn because I don't know.
I'm not a girl.
I'm not a girl that's getting fucked on camera.
I don't understand.
Maybe you really are a healthy person and it's just fun for you.
That's possible.
Dr. Drew says no.
But then again, I said, I'm not a woman.
I'm not a doctor.
I don't really understand it.
But...
I think the ones that I've come in contact with, almost all of them had some fucked up childhood.
Almost all of them.
brian redban
I think it's pretty much mandatory.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's no other way to do it, right?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
It's like the reason why you got into it in the first place is not a healthy reason.
So it's just this massive evidence.
And even if you're the coolest person to hang out with ever, like a lot of them are, you know, a lot of them are really fun to hang out with.
You're still, you're this way because somebody was shitty to you.
al madrigal
That's what they were talking about.
joe rogan
So I always have to think about that.
al madrigal
Yeah, they were talking about that on that Green Room show with Paul Provenza before the one you were on.
And they were talking about how everybody's, you know, all comics, dads, you know, or some shit like that.
Like, yeah, there is some comics.
joe rogan
Some dad shit.
al madrigal
Dad shit.
joe rogan
Always, yeah.
Well, you don't ever become a comic or anything like that, a singer or any...
Anything where you're asking for this exorbitant amount of attention, like this really unbalanced amount of attention, to say I want to be a comedian is to say I want to be the one with a light shining on me while everyone else is in the dark with my voice amplified.
And I want to be above them.
I wonder if standing above their heads.
al madrigal
Never think of it like that at all.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
al madrigal
That's what it is.
joe rogan
You want to be above the crowd.
Nobody wants to do a show where everyone is in the balcony staring down on you and you're one level below them.
You would feel disconnected.
If you didn't have that floor filled in, you would feel disconnected.
The whole thing is a really ridiculous request.
So to want to do that for a living, you have to have some giant deficit you're trying to make up for.
Some fucking crazy hole in your childhood.
al madrigal
None of us really think, I don't think I have it that bad.
joe rogan
You don't have to have it that bad now.
And I think one of the reasons why is because you're self-healed.
When you have a family of your own and you have your own children, all of a sudden that shit goes away.
And you don't need your daddy anymore, man.
I don't need my dad to get hit in the head by a fucking meteor.
Not my stepdad who raised me, but my real dad who I don't even know.
I wouldn't give a fuck.
I don't need a dad.
I'm a dad myself.
Thanks, take care.
al madrigal
I got it.
joe rogan
Sorry you got hit in the head by a meteor.
You know what I mean?
But when I was seven, it was devastating.
When I was seven, that guy, the fact that my dad wasn't in my life anymore was just like, whoa, it was just crushing.
And so that, whatever sets you off when you're seven, or whatever it is, what age it is, you have this dad issue, that's what gives you this incredible energy and desire to pursue this stand-up comedy thing.
Sure.
And your motivation has to go from, I want all this attention to, I want to produce all this art and make people happy.
I want to produce all this shit that people love.
I want people to come see Al Madrigal in concert, and I'm going to give them a fucking rocking show where they get all excited and can't wait to see me again.
al madrigal
I think about what my kids, I can't help but think about this.
I think about my kids looking at my stand-up when they're 18 years old and looking back and seeing what I did for them.
joe rogan
Are you still smoking cigarettes?
al madrigal
No, I'm done.
joe rogan
You're done?
al madrigal
Yeah, completely.
I quit almost, I feel like a year ago, right around now.
brian redban
How many times a day do you think about it?
al madrigal
I don't anymore.
joe rogan
This motherfucker, he quits and his cat hurts her foot.
The cat hurt her foot.
So he...
Was it her?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Cat hurt her foot.
She jumped off the refrigerator and hurt her foot.
So he got so stressed out he started smoking cigarettes again.
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, it's always something for me.
I mean, if it's a relationship problem or if my cat gets hurt problem, it's all excuses.
I mean, cigarettes, I know you say that you're over and stuff like that, but most people, even if it's been a year, I still thought about it at least once a week.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Wow.
al madrigal
One of those non-smoking commercials.
And it was a great one.
It said, it was there for you then.
You did it after you smoked in the morning.
You smoked at night.
You smoked after lunch.
You smoked when your daughter was born.
You smoked here.
You smoked there.
Because you did it.
You tried.
And you're done.
Like that.
And you gave it a shot.
Like, I smoked.
unidentified
Wow.
al madrigal
I really did smoke, and I'm just done with it.
brian redban
I think if I have kids, that's going to be a real big pushy thing.
But when you're hanging out at a comedy club, drinking, and every single person's smoking, it is almost impossible to fucking quit smoking unless you have a kid at home that you're like, okay, I'm doing anything for this fucking kid.
joe rogan
Especially when you get a couple of drinks and you're like, fuck it.
al madrigal
But everybody else is smoking and you're sitting around.
It's also an easy way to step away from a situation.
If I'm at a party, one of the best things about smoking for me is that you're in a party, And I get to walk outside and just sort of collect my thoughts and be by myself.
brian redban
Right.
al madrigal
And then maybe he's out there and there's another cool smoker guy.
unidentified
Right.
al madrigal
I go, what's up, what's up?
You see that chick in there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
So you have a tiny meeting away from the fucking event.
joe rogan
I used to see that back in Boston when they had to do it and it was fucking zero degrees outside.
unidentified
Zero degrees.
joe rogan
And these poor junkies were standing outside.
These fucking queer laws smoking.
We fucking can't even smoke inside anymore.
What's next?
al madrigal
Yeah.
So you just go, it's the ability to step away from shit that I really did miss.
That's what I miss the most.
Little tiny meeting.
joe rogan
Little tiny meetings.
brian redban
That's funny.
joe rogan
So you're in a little tiny club.
That's kind of an interesting way of looking at it.
al madrigal
And a club where you meet with the regular people at the regular time.
So you see Tebow, who I'm sure you've had cigarettes with.
brian redban
Oh yeah.
al madrigal
Have you had cigarettes with Jason Tebow?
brian redban
Oh yeah, all the time.
al madrigal
All the time.
brian redban
He's one of my favorite cigarette smoker guys.
al madrigal
Exactly.
So he has his regular cigarette guys that he sees, and he knows if he sees Court McCown, he can get a cigarette off him.
He knows if he sees this guy, Renizzisi, used to smoke, and he just quit.
So if you see Steve Renizzisi, you can smoke, and he's got cigarettes.
joe rogan
Isn't that a part of it, too, that you support each other?
Oh, no problem.
Can I bomb a cigarette?
You always give the guy a cigarette, because you know that if you see him and you don't have a cigarette, he's got a cigarette, and you're good.
al madrigal
It's a trading, a lot of bartering.
joe rogan
People do that at bars, too, that don't even know people.
You've got a spare?
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
They'll ask you for a fucking free cigarette.
That's like saying, can I have a dollar?
al madrigal
You know what?
I was a take-two guy because I knew he'd need one for later.
I could take one for later.
Really?
joe rogan
Generous motherfucker.
unidentified
There you go.
al madrigal
You do that a lot?
brian redban
I did that to Daryl last night.
unidentified
Yeah.
al madrigal
You know what?
You like a guy a lot?
You see it, Tebow?
I got Tebow.
Here, you know what, Tebow?
brian redban
I have another one.
al madrigal
I could fucking bust out three.
Whoa.
Yeah, no, just put one behind the ear.
joe rogan
Did you ever go the natural cigarettes route where you try to get those American spirits?
al madrigal
I smoked a Parliament Light hard pack and I smoked a Marble Light hard pack and that was it.
joe rogan
And what happened, Brian?
Those natural lights are not the way to go?
brian redban
They supposedly are better for you because they have only tobacco in it and no pesticides and none of the whatever 102 chemicals, but...
al madrigal
They're taking a drag of a twig.
brian redban
Yeah, it's so hard and rough that I actually felt like more shit the next day waking up on that shit.
al madrigal
It takes 15 minutes to smoke on a regular cigarette, about 7 minutes.
brian redban
Not even 7 minutes.
joe rogan
Half of it is just explosive chemicals you're sucking in.
You know there's 599 FDA approved chemical additives that are in cigarettes?
al madrigal
Joe was always on me not to smoke.
joe rogan
Well, you have children, man.
al madrigal
I know, I know, I know.
You were on that.
And then also, before I had children...
joe rogan
You hear that sound?
al madrigal
Well, before you had children to the volcano, I'm not doing anything.
joe rogan
That's the volcano.
It's come alive.
It's got a request.
It's request is to fuck you up.
We're talking about smoking.
And there's a, you know, a lot of people say, well, marijuana, you know, you're smoking that.
That shit's bad for you.
That's not good.
Well, there's a thing called the vaporizer, ladies and gentlemen.
And what it is, is it looks like a UFO. Jiffy Pop.
Yeah, it looks like it's making Jiffy Pop.
But what it's really doing is taking my ground-up plant material and vaporizing it so that there's no smoke, but instead it's a mist, and it's a THC mist.
And what it does is it fills this bag up with this THC mist.
Oh, it's filling up now.
It's looking good.
al madrigal
How long have you had that?
joe rogan
I'm liking it.
I've had it for a while, man.
I think I got it a few years ago.
al madrigal
Because your bag leaks a little bit.
joe rogan
A little bit.
What are you going to do?
al madrigal
That's a good gift idea.
brian redban
Yeah, get Joe a new bag.
joe rogan
That really is a good gift idea for Joe Rogan.
I need a new bag.
brian redban
Does it turn off by itself?
joe rogan
No, you just wait.
brian redban
Is it going to pop?
joe rogan
Look at it.
No, not ready.
It's not ready yet.
It's looking good, though.
brian redban
This is scary.
unidentified
Don't be a bitch, Ryan.
brian redban
Like walking around with balloons and not hitting the ceiling.
joe rogan
It's vapor, bro.
It's THC vapor.
And the thing is, it looks like nothing.
Like when you breathe it in and breathe it out, sometimes you don't even think you've got anything.
al madrigal
You went with a clear bag, but all bags are pretty much clear so you can see the mist in the inside.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Well, this is just the same bag that I've had for years.
I'm probably supposed to be replacing that.
al madrigal
No, that's why, ladies, I mean, yeah, it is a good gift idea if you're thinking about gifting.
brian redban
Yeah.
Those volcanoes are fucking expensive.
joe rogan
Oh, I think?
unidentified
Yeah, I think they're like $600 or something like that.
joe rogan
Is it really?
brian redban
Yeah.
I was thinking about getting one and then I was like...
joe rogan
So then, this is what you get out of it.
This strange thing.
And inside this strange thing is...
I don't know.
unidentified
It's some fucking...
Jesus, you're going crazy.
al madrigal
And that just sticks around for a while.
You can use that later.
joe rogan
That's it.
Bam, son.
Pure THC. You don't have to worry about smoke.
You don't have to worry about shit being bad for you.
How magical.
al madrigal
Are you still going on the road?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
al madrigal
Who do you go with?
You go with Ari?
joe rogan
Yeah, Ari comes all the time.
Joey, when you can count on him.
You never know with Joey Diaz because he might pull a Joey Diaz.
al madrigal
And just no show?
joe rogan
What's that?
al madrigal
And just no show?
joe rogan
I actually started taking two people on the road with me for the very reason that I never knew if Joey Diaz was going to show up.
al madrigal
That's awesome.
joe rogan
So Joey Diaz is the reason...
What was that?
Did you hear the...
Did you hear feedback?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Did you hear us?
brian redban
Yeah.
al madrigal
Was that just you rustling?
Maybe you just kicked something when you sat down.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
Anyway, I used to take Joey Diaz on the road all the time until we worked in Rascals.
We worked in Rascals in New Jersey and Joey just didn't show up.
He just never flew to New Jersey.
And he didn't answer his phone.
He had a pager back then.
It was impossible to get in touch with him.
And then finally we got in touch with him the next day.
And he's like, I'm coming tonight.
Don't worry about it.
unidentified
I'll be there.
Don't worry about it.
brian redban
I'm there.
joe rogan
Don't worry.
I missed my flight.
I fucked up.
I got stuck in Vegas.
So it's maybe an hour before the show.
And we finally get a hold of Joey Diaz.
And he's still back in L.A. or Vegas.
I forget where he was.
Like, I ain't got a lot of your dogs.
I never got on the plane.
He just, whatever reason, he just decided to go off into his own Joey Diaz world.
al madrigal
That's great.
joe rogan
And he's done that so many times.
He did that in Phoenix.
He just fucking vanishes.
al madrigal
I'm telling you that story of him at the Marilyn Martinez.
Maybe there's somebody who talked about that, but it was just really one of the best things I've ever witnessed.
Him just telling somebody off at a memorial.
joe rogan
Those fucking memorials, they bum me out, man.
al madrigal
I went to Mitch.
joe rogan
I don't go to anybody's.
I don't like funerals either.
I don't like the idea behind it.
If I want to celebrate somebody, I want to celebrate it on my own.
Think about their life and my personal relationship with them.
I mean, it's cool with you if you want to meet up with everybody and talk about how great the guy was and celebrate him.
I get it.
I totally understand it.
But to me, it's just like, man, it's such a personal thing when someone dies.
al madrigal
When the public official died in Tucson, I mean, you saw all the people, and Obama spoke.
That was a lot of people.
How many people were at that event, do you know?
That was a shitload of people at University of Arizona, probably in the basketball stadium.
Easily about 8,000 people.
That's weird, right?
joe rogan
Well, you know, in that case, though, it's like those people need healing.
Those people are devastated.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely, yeah.
joe rogan
When something happened, like that little girl got shot, that thing is so devastating.
And apparently cops have been called to this guy's house, the guy who did that shooting in Arizona.
al madrigal
Well, they pulled him over on the way there.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
brian redban
Did they really?
al madrigal
He got arrested for, yeah, he had some sort of violation.
He got pulled over.
joe rogan
Oh my God, they didn't check that he's got guns?
al madrigal
Guns in a bag.
joe rogan
Jesus fucking...
al madrigal
When anyone goes to load up, and he went to Walmart and bought a shitload of bullets, too, I think there's just gotta be some check.
Like, don't you think so?
Like, somebody just, let's take a picture and send it.
I'm sure all that's being done.
I don't even know what it is.
joe rogan
I feel bad for the cop that pulled him over, who has to think that, you know...
al madrigal
Had he done a little bit more of an investigation?
joe rogan
Yeah, I just looked into this.
He probably had some inkling, but he's probably, you know, whatever.
Leave the guy alone.
al madrigal
Are there people talking about that?
Are there people talking about the fact that he was stopped?
joe rogan
I never heard it.
I didn't hear it until you just brought it up.
That's crazy, though.
The photos of that kid, the mugshot photos.
al madrigal
Looks just as bananas as anybody could look.
joe rogan
Yeah, it can't look any crazier.
al madrigal
But that's me again with the payphone shit.
It's like, I would, yeah.
Inspect them.
joe rogan
Well, then the other thought is that if you look at the whole machine of life, if you look at all these different things in life, the good and the bad, there's a lot of people that believe, and this is sort of a staple in Eastern religion, is that almost you sort of have to have negative in your life to recognize the positive.
And the yin and yang, the reason why it exists is because that's the only way anything ever gets done.
And even events like 9-11, they're terrible events, but In some ways, they bring people together.
Like, New York, after 9-11, after that, was like the friendliest fucking place in the world for the longest time.
al madrigal
Senators holding hands on top of the...
joe rogan
It was just different, man.
People were...
Everyone was devastated.
People were shell-shocked.
They were horrified.
But there was this weird feeling and air of a group of people that are all cool.
Motherfucker, I'm weak.
al madrigal
Now I feel better about my text earlier.
joe rogan
Somebody just called me once.
I swear to God I unplugged that fucking thing.
Anyway, there was a sense of community there that didn't exist.
al madrigal
And just phased away.
joe rogan
Phased away and back to douchiness.
But for the longest time, man, everyone was so fucking cool there.
So positive.
We went there.
We filmed a Fear Factor.
I think it was right after September 11th.
It wasn't far afterward.
Like maybe a year or two after.
And everybody was...
And it was back when firemen were fucking heroes and firemen were just getting pussy thrown at them everywhere.
Women wanted to go fuck firemen.
They wanted to go fuck heroes.
You know?
It's weird how that changed, but for that long time.
So it's almost like a negative thing can oftentimes inspire this positive reaction in the opposite way.
And there's a lot of people that think that all these things are in place and all these fucked up people are in place and fucked up situations to get us to appreciate the situations that aren't.
You know, to get us to really, you know, to really try to be better and help us evolve so that we can get past these unfortunate but unavoidable situations.
al madrigal
I've heard that been said.
Yeah, we need homeless people.
Without homeless people, I mean, you need sort of somebody on the bottom.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's true.
I don't necessarily agree with that.
But it's also like, you know, to watch something really terrible like that sort of like motivates you to not let that happen to you.
People can accept a lot of shit.
A lot of things can happen to you and you just sort of accept your situation and it gets worse.
You sort of accept that.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Hoarders are a perfect example.
And because of that, all of a sudden you find yourself at many levels of accepting this bullshit in a place where you never would have just accepted it straight up right off the bat.
You just kind of let it happen like that.
al madrigal
Just builds and builds and builds and builds and your credit gets out of control and all of a sudden you're evicted and you just fucking don't handle your shit.
And yeah, you do look at that to get motivated because this is the bottom.
I've seen the bottom and I don't want to be near the fucking bottom.
joe rogan
Exactly.
al madrigal
That's what it is.
It's like, I do not want that.
When I watch a hoarder, me and my wife actually watched one the other night, and this show is difficult to watch.
Because you're right that they do gradually accept that they have to shit on top of fucking Capri Sun boxes or something in their way and shit.
And it just stacks up around them, and they're just shifting.
And then we just started living in one room.
They say that all the time.
joe rogan
Also, I think we all recognize...
Yeah, we all recognize that our own brains are just as vulnerable as these people's brains.
al madrigal
Oh, sure.
A lot of people choose to fight a little bit harder.
They can just keep their shit clean, and it takes work.
Everything takes work.
Life's maintenance needs to be fucking done.
You can't let shit get out of control.
joe rogan
But we've all gone into this weird spiral.
I think anybody that I've ever met, especially anybody that's ever been in a tumultuous relationship...
You go into this weird spiral where you don't feel like you have that much control over your thoughts and actions.
When guys get in a devastating relationship, you get your heart broken, you can't sleep, you can't think, especially when that happens young in your life and you don't really have it mastered yet, you don't really understand who the fuck you are, that shit can send you on some kind of crazy spiral.
And if you go through all that and you've got some sort of a history of mental illness in your family, next thing you know, done.
You're cracked.
al madrigal
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, you don't want to ever accept that it could happen to you, but you look at someone who's really devastated by any sort of a fucking obsession like that.
Gambling obsessions?
Do you know gambling people?
al madrigal
Dude, my in-laws live in dirty Vegas, so out near the Air Force Base, out where there's all of those poker places, and it's just a pawn shop, poker place.
Just shut down fast food, fast food, pawn shop, poker, poker, poker.
And you go into one of those places, like a Terribles Casino and shit like that.
And there's all those car washes.
And you go into like a PJ's poker place and you just see these just guys.
You think like an Indian casino is bad.
There's a regular casino, really nice.
Then there's a lower level downtown casinos.
Then there's like an Indian casino that's out in the middle of fucking nowhere.
And it's like, why would you go there?
And they say it's like, oh, it's a Morongo Casino.
It's where real nightlife is.
And you go in and it's just like a weird grouping of Chinese people.
joe rogan
Dude, you're not going to get booked in Morongo if you say anything wrong.
Be cool right here.
There's a lot of money in Morongo.
al madrigal
Come to Morongo.
Yeah.
There's so many hot chicks and I love going to Morongo, man.
They have these commercials that come on.
It's like the nightclubs and shit like that.
It ends up being old Chinese ladies in like mystical wolf t-shirts fucking just walking around.
unidentified
It's like...
joe rogan
With those walkers with the tennis balls in the bottom of the feet.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
al madrigal
It's disgusting.
It's depressing shit.
joe rogan
That gambling addiction is a strange one, man.
al madrigal
Anybody that smiles...
There's homeless people in my neighborhood that bought a car.
joe rogan
What?
al madrigal
I watched them be homeless.
I knew they were going around collecting cans.
And just one day...
You know how you got your eye on the same homeless people all the time?
You're seeing them around for a regular basis.
These two...
It's like a couple.
Frumpy looking weird white lady and this tall black guy who wears a top hat sometimes.
They start driving around in a green minivan.
Fucked up green minivan.
But they got there and saved up enough cans like Marlboro Miles to buy this other car.
joe rogan
And they're sleeping in this van now?
unidentified
I bet.
brian redban
Yeah, they're cheating in my neighborhood because they have a place where you can turn recyclables into money, and then every night I see them just fucking going through everyone's recycle bins and just taking out all the shit from the recycle bins and then selling it down the street.
al madrigal
Yeah, that's what they do.
brian redban
That's cheating.
joe rogan
Is that cheating?
al madrigal
No, that's like Starwood points for homeless people.
joe rogan
Well, I think that makes sense because one way you're not going to make any money.
If you just put your recyclables on the street, you're not going to make any money.
And for them, it's like free money.
I don't think it's cheating at all.
brian redban
Yeah, get out of my fucking trash.
I don't want you in my trash.
al madrigal
Somebody was telling me they were in a...
joe rogan
Well, as long as they do a good job.
al madrigal
A downtown...
joe rogan
They don't make a mess.
brian redban
Stealing your identity.
al madrigal
They were in a downtown LA, like shopping mall or something like that, and they saw...
Or an office complex, and they saw one of these fountains where people throw money in the fountain.
And they were just standing there going, oh my God, what a beautiful fountain.
And then this Latino family came in, just rolled up all their sleeves and went in the fountain and just started taking all the money out of the fountain.
unidentified
Whoa.
al madrigal
And just saying, because it's free money, we're throwing money in water.
joe rogan
Yeah, what do you say to that?
How do you stop that?
al madrigal
I have zero money, and there's money just right there.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta take it.
al madrigal
It's like a foot of water.
joe rogan
Right, and it's like, it's a weird thing.
Like, is it illegal to take the money?
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Is it?
brian redban
I think so.
unidentified
Is it?
joe rogan
It shouldn't be.
brian redban
Well, I think a lot of these fountains usually have a charity booked around behind it.
Like, the mall gives it to a charity or something.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
So I think once it's that, it's considered giving to a charity.
al madrigal
And it's stealing.
But there's no charity sign.
Take that money.
You need the money.
joe rogan
Maybe they started doing it to a charity just because people were doing it.
al madrigal
It's like the Mexican soccer sign.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is ridiculous.
That's how fucking rich this country is.
People can throw money in a fountain.
Enough money for food.
There's enough money in that fountain for you definitely need to get something to eat.
You know, it's always quarters and nickels and pennies.
al madrigal
There's a comic that, uh, a Conan writer that actually does that as a bit, I'm sorry, I forget his name, but he goes, imagine coming from another country, like, where they have no water, where you have to go to a well, you know, really just out in the middle of nowhere, and there's the one water hole, and there's a fucking tiger there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
al madrigal
And then you come to this country, and you go into, like, a place, like, um, to City Center, City Walk, City Walk, Universal City Walk.
unidentified
Right.
al madrigal
And there's fucking water shooting up out of the ground, and kids are fucking frolicking, and then we're Taking our extra money and throwing it in the fucking fountain.
Just like, here's our money and our water.
joe rogan
It's crazy, right?
al madrigal
It really is fucking crazy.
It really is.
joe rogan
Well, we don't realize how rich this country is until you watch.
You even talk to some of the people that are in certain European countries where there's no resources and nothing to do.
There's a real issue in Italy right now with young people where there's no fucking jobs.
There's really nothing they can do.
People are graduating and there's like...
There's nothing.
There's nothing out there.
al madrigal
Mom's already manning the cafe or whatever it is.
You have to go out and find an actual job.
joe rogan
You have to leave the country.
You have to get on a fucking boat or something.
You've got to go find your shit somewhere else.
You're stuck.
al madrigal
Yeah.
And I think a lot of the smarter people said, there's free land over in that other place.
joe rogan
Those people were nuts, man.
unidentified
Let's go.
joe rogan
The idea behind that, we've talked about it before, but how crazy you have to be to be living in Europe and say, you know what?
Fuck this.
We're going to get in a boat and we're going to go across the ocean.
It's going to take a long time.
al madrigal
A lot of us are going to die.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of us are going to die.
And we're going to get some new diseases when we get there.
al madrigal
But dying is better than that shit.
They weighed that out.
They must have.
There must have been...
joe rogan
Or they're just running from the law.
We're a nation built by criminals running from European law.
I wonder how many people were supposed to be one thing when they were in Europe.
They came over here, Bob Smith, that's my name.
You know, just new identity.
al madrigal
New identity, new everything.
Clean slate.
That's how to be allowed.
Just wipe out a complete record of yourself.
Don Draper, the whole thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
A lot of them, right?
Can't do that shit anymore, folks.
No.
That's going out of the way soon.
Soon, you're going to be chipped.
You cunts!
brian redban
So where are you at this weekend now?
joe rogan
You're going to be chipped.
al madrigal
I am actually doing the John Oliver Comedy Central show in New York on Saturday night.
That's exciting.
brian redban
Cool.
al madrigal
And then I'm going to be in Austin, Texas at the Cap City Comedy Club.
brian redban
Oh, my favorite club.
al madrigal
And I'm going to be at the Ontario Improv.
I've got those three coming up.
So it goes...
brian redban
Can I come with you to Austin so I can steal some bitches?
al madrigal
Oh, you need chicks in Austin?
joe rogan
Steal some bitches?
How confident are you?
Steal some bitches.
Brian's like, all I have to do is go to Austin, and I'll just...
You know, start a fucking harem and shit.
brian redban
I love them.
joe rogan
That's all I gotta do.
Just go there.
brian redban
Like rescuing women from Austin.
joe rogan
Dude, Austin is the shit.
Why would it be rescuing?
al madrigal
Yeah, you're not a big guy.
brian redban
Because they don't want to get beat up anymore.
joe rogan
They're gonna get in Twitter fights with your ex-girlfriend?
Twitter war.
How many people are having public spats on Twitter?
al madrigal
It's so funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, relationships are broken up on Twitter.
Are they?
al madrigal
Oh, that's hilarious.
joe rogan
People are arguing with each other.
al madrigal
See, that's another thing.
I miss texting in my relationship, so I don't even know.
It's like, where are you at?
Where are you at?
I have no idea what that's about.
joe rogan
There's a few people that I follow just because I know that they're in a famous couple and that they'll get in spats.
And when they get in spats, they'll leave little vague shit.
There comes a point when you know that you cannot count on anyone.
al madrigal
Who are those people?
joe rogan
I can't tell you online.
I'll tell you when we're off air.
But I follow them just because I want to hear them.
And then once that point has been reached, it's over.
Yeah, so there's an echo in here.
brian redban
I keep on hearing phones ring.
There's no more phones ring, buddy.
It's my medicine.
joe rogan
It's your medicine.
Fox's fucking show's over, right?
Should have been over a while ago.
brian redban
We gotta get new seats.
When we do these two hours and 45 minute shows, I feel like...
al madrigal
How is that phase?
joe rogan
Perhaps you need to work on your core, motherfucker.
brian redban
These are the most uncomfortable couches.
al madrigal
I'm in the gym, I feel pretty good.
joe rogan
I'm right.
He's right, rather.
When I got these...
Yeah, there's no back support.
I'm gonna get us office chairs.
That's the next point.
al madrigal
That was really nice ones.
joe rogan
That way we can move around more, too.
We're not married to this one spot and we can face each other better.
Listen, folks, this shit is ever evolving.
al madrigal
I'm working on some sort of a TV. To look at the Ustream, it really does look like a professional environment, though, with the mic in front of your face.
And it looks like, you know, I mean, it is a very professional setup, but I'm saying fucking raise this shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll figure it out.
When we first started doing it, man, we just had a laptop and we had snow in the background and shit.
Those are terrible ones.
If you're going to download a podcast, those first ten of them, I can't believe anybody was still listening.
We just would get baked and just start rambling and nobody was paying attention so we didn't even think it was a big deal.
But now there's like hundreds of thousands of downloads every week.
al madrigal
You want to deliver a quality project.
joe rogan
I feel like I have to.
I have to make the conversations interesting.
I have to bring on people like Al Madrigal.
unidentified
How'd we do?
al madrigal
That was a good show.
I had a fun time.
joe rogan
You're great always, bro.
You're an awesome dude.
I'm glad we've been friends for all these years.
I'm glad I knew you back in your salad days.
al madrigal
I have an album that I just put out.
unidentified
What is it?
joe rogan
What's it called?
al madrigal
It's called Cholos on a Moped.
joe rogan
Cholos on a moped.
Is it iTunes available?
al madrigal
No, it's just on my website.
joe rogan
Do they have to download it?
al madrigal
No, they have to download it, and I just put in sort of a pay-whatever-you-want.
It bottoms out of $7.99, because I think that's nothing.
But if people want to pay $10 or more, they can.
joe rogan
Oh, that's kind of cool.
I like that.
I've seen people do that with PayPal links.
They say, if you want to donate, here's what it is.
There's something to that.
al madrigal
Yeah, I don't know.
I'd rather people have it than I make a certain dollar amount.
joe rogan
Before we go, I want to ask you about this.
How do you feel about online piracy?
What are your thoughts on that?
al madrigal
Online, actually ripping a movie and then distributing it to other people?
joe rogan
Let's just go specifically with your stuff.
al madrigal
Oh, if somebody puts my stuff out on LimeWire, if it takes my shit.
See, I'm at the stage in my career where I would like people to have the stuff more than I'd like to make one.
I'll write new shit.
joe rogan
Right.
al madrigal
I'm going to continue producing.
I mean, I'm just starting to right now with this, like, a couple of bits that I have that the Laugh Factory put up on YouTube.
Like, the shit that I really fucking enjoy doing.
So I just want to keep producing shit like that at a high quality.
But at some point where there's real big money to be made, I'm sure I'll fucking want to sell this stuff legitimately.
joe rogan
Right.
I know what you're saying.
al madrigal
For the most part, I just want to get it out.
I'd give it to somebody.
If somebody, kid, comes up to me after my shows, I always say, pay what you want.
I don't care.
As long as you don't throw fucking $2 at me.
unidentified
Look at you, dude.
joe rogan
You're like a hippie.
al madrigal
You're a hippie socialist.
Well, I mean, for the most, I say, pay what you can afford.
joe rogan
What's the cheapest people give you?
al madrigal
I'll take five bucks because I cost three to make.
joe rogan
Wow.
al madrigal
And so, and then if somebody, but for the most part, people give me $20.
joe rogan
That's kind of cool.
What is the most someone's ever given you?
al madrigal
I had people in Tempe at the Tempe Improv jumping up and down.
It was one of the last CDs, but $40, $60, I think.
unidentified
Nice.
al madrigal
But it was like they were running out.
joe rogan
Oh.
What are you doing, Brian?
What is that?
brian redban
I'm just playing music.
Ending music.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sounds like a Chinese restaurant, bro.
brian redban
Yeah, it's Cam Trails by Beck.
joe rogan
Sounds like the waiting area for a Chinese restaurant.
al madrigal
Can it be louder a little bit?
There you go.
joe rogan
February 4th, Mandalay Bay Theater.
I am there with Ari Shafir and Joey Coco Diaz, hopefully.
I know Ari will show up with Joey.
Twitter that fool.
Talk to him.
I don't know.
It's mad flavor.
But tickets are selling very fast.
It's going to be a fucking crazy show.
It's a big place.
It's like 2,000 seats.
Something like that.
1,800 seats.
It's a new theater in Mandalay Bay.
And that'll be the night before the UFC. There's a link on JoeRogan.net.
You can go there.
There's a link on my Facebook, which is JoeRogan, D-O-T-N-E-T. And Al Madrigal, you can reach him at Al Madrigal at Twitter.
A-L-M-A-D-R-I-G-A-L. In the house, bitches.
al madrigal
AlMadrigal.com.
joe rogan
AlMadrigal.com.
Dude, thank you very much.
Thank you for everything.
Thank you for being a cool dude.
Thank you for being a great stand-up comedian.
And thank you for being the same guy that I met when we got high and watched Oprah.
al madrigal
Exactly the same.
joe rogan
From 11 years ago.
al madrigal
Yeah, it's pretty much not too much has changed.
joe rogan
Well, you know, you're more of a dad and a man now and all that good stuff.
al madrigal
Oh, sure, but...
joe rogan
But you're the same dude.
al madrigal
Same guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're the same dude.
That doesn't always happen that way.
al madrigal
I know, and then you were telling me about Ray Romano.
That's exactly...
joe rogan
Exactly.
He's the same exact guy.
He's always been a great guy.
al madrigal
So that's good to hear.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can keep it together.
al madrigal
Sure.
joe rogan
You're going to keep it together.
I predict.
al madrigal
No, there's no use to be all affected.
You're the same thing.
You could have the right to be some affected fucking guy with people around you.
joe rogan
It's a mess.
That fucks you up more than...
The ego boost is a fake one.
If you're a smart person, you don't accept it, and so you don't get a good feeling out of it anyway, because you know it's ridiculous.
It's all ridiculous, bitches.
We are in an atomic soup that no one understands, and it's been going back and forth, on and over, from the Big Bang to the end of creation forever.
And it's an endless cycle.
And we'll see you next week.
brian redban
And Fleshlight.
joe rogan
Call at you, boy.
Yeah, Fleshlight.com.
Go there and just buy a bunch of them.
Just jerk off into them and shoot your loads all over the house.
They're special.
They're good.
They feel better than beating off.
You will have long, ball-draining orgasms.
I highly recommend...
Highly recommend it.
Also, Miami Improv.
Fuck, I don't even know who's going down with me.
28, 29, and 30. No, not Miami Improv.
I keep saying that.
I said that twice.
West Palm Beach Improv.
You know why I say it?
Because it's a half an hour from Miami and I'll never work the Miami Improv ever again.
So I'm just terrified because it's right there.
It's a half an hour away.
It's the only place where I was on stage in the middle of a show, and people were so dumb.
Like, I had some joke where I brought up the word Oscar De La Hoya, like, brought up his name.
And so, all of a sudden, this fucking war broke out in the crowd.
No, fuck you, man!
Sugar Shane Mosley!
Fuck Mosley!
And they started going back and forth and yelling out at the top like it's a cafeteria.
al madrigal
Sure.
joe rogan
Like, who's the most badass boxer?
And it went on for like 30 seconds.
So these guys were yelling back, standing up, doing these things with their hands, yelling at them.
And I just had fun.
I said, I'm never coming here again.
al madrigal
That's great.
I was there and a woman's hair caught on fire and she vomited.
joe rogan
Nice.
In what order?
al madrigal
What's that?
Hair first, vomit second.
joe rogan
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the end of the show.
So, West Palm Beach Improv 28, 29, and 30th.
You know all that Twitter details.
al madrigal
I have a lot of Twitter followers as a result of this.
unidentified
Do you?
joe rogan
Powerful.
brian redban
Add me, Redband.
al madrigal
I did, I did.
joe rogan
He's talking to all the people out there in the world.
brian redban
I need to get past Taylor fucking Vixen.
joe rogan
Shh, Brian.
unidentified
I can say that name.
joe rogan
If you say it three times, she'll show up.
brian redban
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Candyman, Candyman.
Oh, no, you didn't.
And on that note, folks, we'll see you next week.
Ari Shafir will be joining us on Tuesday, and we'll see if we can get Brian Posehn or someone on Thursday.
And that's it.
Holla at your boy.
brian redban
See ya.
joe rogan
Love you, bitches.
unidentified
You could've told me to run a lap around the world.
All that time I was hypnotized while you were behind my back.
Now my mind keeps me up all night.
Why'd you have to save my life like that?
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