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Nov. 29, 2010 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #58 - Mayhem Miller
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brian redban
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joe rogan
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unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
But dude, you dismantled him.
That was the cleanest, most precise performance of your career.
mayhem miller
Yeah, I think so.
I was just like, alright, do this, this, and this.
joe rogan
Dude, you did it all perfect.
It was perfect.
It was just perfection.
That poor guy.
mayhem miller
Yeah, that's business, you know?
joe rogan
It is business.
I'm going to get old?
Yeah.
mayhem miller
I'm going to get old?
joe rogan
And hopefully you'll slide out before that guy.
After Melvin Manhoof, he should have been like, wait, wait, wait, wait, what's up?
mayhem miller
Exactly, yeah.
Fuck, dude.
That's business.
It's kind of like a guy I looked up to for so long, and one of those things.
I feel a big respect to the guy, and I feel like a lot of my career is due to him.
joe rogan
Really?
mayhem miller
Yeah, definitely.
joe rogan
Well, for those who don't follow mixed martial arts, Sakuraba is a famous Japanese guy who was one of the first guys to beat the Gracies, and he fought a bunch of them.
He fought Hoist a couple of times.
They fought for 90 minutes once.
mayhem miller
He had a legacy, that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that is as legacy as legacy gets.
You list all-time favorites.
Goddamn, Sakuraba's on everybody's list.
Some of those fights that he had...
Always fought guys way bigger than him.
mayhem miller
That's what I mean by that.
Exactly the mentality that you would always take into a fight is what I did when I was younger.
What I always was thinking, that's what you have to be to be a fighter.
It built my value system.
I'm like, yeah, you have to do that.
Which kept me working hard in mixed martial arts all the way to this point.
They say, you want to fight him?
I'm like...
Yeah, I have to fight him.
joe rogan
Right, right.
mayhem miller
I respect, you know, I can't.
Oh, no, I'm not going to fight Sakuraba.
You know, like, come on.
I'm going to fight Sakuraba.
joe rogan
Someone's going to fight him.
mayhem miller
What other place in life do you get to walk up to your hero and punch his fucking face?
Where does that happen?
You're my hero.
I get to punch your fucking face.
joe rogan
Damn, what a trip that must have been.
mayhem miller
Yeah, you know what I mean?
I was like, man, you're my hero, but I'm going to try to smash you.
joe rogan
Is there a moment in your mind in the fight while you're realizing you're doing this, or are you so in the moment?
mayhem miller
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, because I remember the exact moment that I was like, I got him in this one move, and then I put my hand on his face, and I put my hand on his face and punched him.
And I'm like, man, I'm punching Sakuraba right now.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
Wow.
mayhem miller
There was that brief, like, little blink of a moment.
joe rogan
And then you went back.
mayhem miller
Yeah, and then I was like, oh, gotta beat him up.
I was like, oh, no.
To me, it was like, okay, I'm a robot.
Like, I wrote for Fight Magazine before that, like, I'm a robot.
Or, no, I think it was on my blog.
And I wrote, I'm a robot.
In there, I just, like, go in there and, like, I feel like I'm driving a robot.
So I'm just doing this, you know, like.
joe rogan
Right.
mayhem miller
You know, I'm just doing, like, I'm behind my eyes.
unidentified
Right.
mayhem miller
Playing video games.
joe rogan
Right.
mayhem miller
You know what I mean?
Like, oh, I'm playing Xbox right now.
joe rogan
Is that the best way to keep emotions out of it?
mayhem miller
Yeah, fuck yeah, because I fought, like, messed up my fights before where I'm like...
And then I'm like, oh, I'm tired right now.
Like, what the hell?
joe rogan
You know, you got to be like- You get looked out.
mayhem miller
Yeah, it's more, for me at least, I know some guys have to get more psyched up, you know, but for me, I just know that I have to like chill myself out so I don't go to bananas.
joe rogan
So you just fight.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Just do it.
mayhem miller
I'm a robot.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're a robot.
mayhem miller
But every once in a while, you got to go into your crazy gene and get retard strength.
joe rogan
And that's when you're in a bad spot.
unidentified
Yeah.
mayhem miller
Yeah, that's when you just gotta get like, I gotta like Hulk out of this, like Hulkamania.
joe rogan
That was what, remember when you were fighting GSP and that's what...
mayhem miller
Yeah, I know.
It's famous.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I know.
What's his face?
Why am I blanking on his name?
mayhem miller
I don't know.
Mark Lehman?
joe rogan
Mark Lehman.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
I'm blanking on Mark Lehman's name.
But when Mark Lehman is yelling, retard strength, and I was saying, his corner is yelling out, retard strength.
mayhem miller
Wait, you said that on the fucking thing?
joe rogan
Yeah, I said that on the air.
It became famous.
unidentified
Oh, I did?
joe rogan
It became famous.
Yeah, retard strength.
mayhem miller
Oh, I remember.
No, I remember the people.
joe rogan
Because I was like, I wanted everybody to know.
I'm like, his corner is calling out for retard strength.
I'm like, you need to know this.
mayhem miller
That's awesome!
joe rogan
Lehman is the shit, man.
Lehman is, he's not only just a really good jiu-jitsu instructor, but he's like a cool dude to talk to.
mayhem miller
No, he's an interesting dude.
Super smart.
joe rogan
Very smart.
mayhem miller
I know, yeah.
Smart dude.
joe rogan
That's why he's so into jiu-jitsu.
He breaks things down.
He's a fascinating dude.
mayhem miller
He's a character.
I love that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a fascinating dude.
Jiu-jitsu's filled with fascinating people.
That's what a lot of people don't understand.
They think of jiu-jitsu as being some sort of a meathead thing.
mayhem miller
Nah, it's art.
joe rogan
It's just for people that don't know that.
They think that, though.
But a lot of the guys that we train with are computer guys, or guys who are not that athletic.
mayhem miller
Back in the day, I felt like jiu-jitsu was this exclusive and expensive thing.
You know what I mean?
Like, not many people did it, but the people who did it were, like, well-educated.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
mayhem miller
Because they know about the latest thing.
joe rogan
Right.
mayhem miller
And it was Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, you know?
So, when I remember, I would be in there broke as hell, you know, training, and then there would be, like, lawyers and, you know, doctors and chiropractors and whatever, you know?
Like, and I'm just, like, some poor kid.
Like, I would go to the gyms, you know?
joe rogan
It is expensive.
That does keep a lot of people out.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
mayhem miller
Like, ah, it keeps out the riffraff.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a funny way of thinking it, right?
Jiu-jitsu is super expensive.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
Well, not anymore.
unidentified
Really?
mayhem miller
Not anymore.
joe rogan
A lot of guys have like $1.75 a month, $2.50 a month.
I read that all over the place.
$2.50 a month, dude.
That's strong money.
That's strong money.
If you're making like, you know, $700 a week, which like a lot of people are, that's what you bring home.
If you're doing well, you're doing pretty well there.
Man, but that's where you live.
mayhem miller
Where do you see that?
Wait, what gym are you driving by right now, Joe Rogan?
joe rogan
Well, it's not driving by.
I'm, like, reading shit online.
I'm, like, looking at how much people charge for jiu-jitsu classes.
People put their prices up online.
I think Henzo's somewhere around there.
I think John Jock's over, like, $175, I think it was.
brian redban
Especially when a lot of people use it as an exercise.
And I pay, like, $39 a month for my gym.
mayhem miller
Man, you go down there.
Bro, you go down there.
joe rogan
You're learning something.
brian redban
You go down there.
mayhem miller
You could talk him down.
Yo, you could talk Machado down.
Just talk Machado down.
Just come on.
He's a cool guy, right?
joe rogan
He's worth everything and more.
He's great.
But I understand if people are broke.
I understand.
mayhem miller
No, I'm saying if I was a broke motherfucker, I would roll up in there and be like, dude, come on, man.
Just give me some jiu-jitsu.
Just a little bit.
Just give me some, bro.
joe rogan
Just give me some.
mayhem miller
Six weeks out.
Don't worry.
Come on, man.
I'll pay you.
joe rogan
That's cute.
mayhem miller
I don't like this new setup.
unidentified
Look at this.
brian redban
What's what?
mayhem miller
Because it's me and Red Band sitting here, man.
joe rogan
That's so we can see each other.
mayhem miller
But now we look like we're in goddamn aliens.
Like we're in the bunker right now.
We're in a bunker over here and Joe Rogan is Missile Command right now.
Joe Rogan is like...
joe rogan
I'm touching you.
unidentified
I know you're touching me, but I can't even tell we're in the same room right now.
joe rogan
You shouldn't be paying attention to these electronics.
You're just looking at the screen.
mayhem miller
Look at me, man.
I know, but this is what everyone else sees.
joe rogan
No, most people don't see shit.
Look, me and him, look.
mayhem miller
We're in a bunker.
Me and Redman are in a bunker right now.
unidentified
Like, Joe Rogan is somewhere in this house.
mayhem miller
Joe Rogan is here.
I guess people don't...
Sometimes they just listen to this thing.
joe rogan
Most people are listening.
mayhem miller
Oh, my bad.
joe rogan
It's a tiny fraction that people are actually watching.
mayhem miller
Man, but what about my screenshot?
joe rogan
What about my screenshot?
They're like, this guy is loud as fuck.
mayhem miller
Oh, my bad.
joe rogan
And what is he talking about?
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah.
They don't even know we're talking about the computer screen.
joe rogan
They have no idea what you're talking about.
mayhem miller
Oh, well, here's the punchline, everybody.
It's the computer screen I was talking about.
brian redban
Yeah, he's looking at the computer screen, what the live viewers are saying.
joe rogan
Jason Mayhem Miller...
Taking some big shots since the last time I seen him.
mayhem miller
Yeah, I've been taking some shots, man.
But hey, what's the deal with the...
joe rogan
What is the most you've ever felt like after a sparring session or after a fight?
What's the most you've ever felt like?
Whoa, I just gotta settle the fuck down after this one.
What's the most?
Which fight was the most?
unidentified
I can't remember.
Do you remember?
After a fight?
joe rogan
Or a sparring session?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Because you've had some crazy sparring sessions.
mayhem miller
I had some dumb ones.
joe rogan
Like Barone, you and Barone used to slam it out.
mayhem miller
Me and Barone used to damn box it out.
unidentified
Like, man, I'm like, yeah, this is fun.
mayhem miller
But afterwards, you're like, oh, man, I'm stupid right now.
joe rogan
There's a lot of guys.
I mean, how many guys do you know that did that too much and they're just not there anymore?
mayhem miller
I don't know.
joe rogan
There's a few guys, right?
mayhem miller
I know one guy.
joe rogan
42. I know a few guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm starting to know guys.
Guys that used to be okay, now they're not.
mayhem miller
Well, I mean, I don't really know Nick Diaz, but you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Right.
The signs are there.
If you don't know, this has been addressed on a previous podcast with Jason Mayhem Miller, but there was a big incident at CBS where Jason got into the cage and asked Jade Shields a question.
He got jumped by everybody, and it was nuts.
Nick Diaz was one of the guys that was involved.
Did he throw the first punch?
Allegedly?
Is that what happened?
mayhem miller
No.
Simultaneously with like three other people.
It's probably the best picture ever.
Me with my hands up like, what's up guys?
joe rogan
So ridiculous.
That's the best picture ever taken.
It was so unnecessary.
It was so unnecessary on so many fronts.
And we talked about this the last time, but we should bring it up again.
I think it was bullshit that you got in trouble for it.
I think, I go, he got jumped, he got assaulted.
Yes, he shouldn't have been in the cage, but it doesn't mean you should be assaulting him.
And I don't even think it's their fault because it's so many fucking people in the cage that shouldn't have been in there.
You can't have that many people.
So who are you blaming right now?
I'm blaming Strikeforce for letting you guys get close to each other.
They should have been regulating it.
They should have watched the cage.
I think they were fucked up to jump you for sure.
But I think the reason why they jumped you is you were allowed to get into that cage.
You shouldn't have been allowed to.
You should have had it all set up.
It should have been like how they would deal to the UFC. If you were going to come in and you were going to challenge him after a fight, you would wait.
And then when Jake was done talking, then we'd say, all right, now I have a guy who would really love to sit down and talk to you right now.
Jason, Mayhem, Miller, and you would come in.
So it's like respectful.
They fucked up by just leaving the door open.
What are you going to leave the door open and do this to get hyped up?
When you want to do something simultaneous on TV, when you're doing something on TV, so I'm sure you're thinking like, fuck, what am I doing?
I'm going to get in.
All right, here we go.
I'm just going to do this.
mayhem miller
It makes perfect sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
mayhem miller
I was like, yeah, let's do this.
There's very little filter on my brain.
joe rogan
Were you sober at the time?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
Totally sober.
mayhem miller
Yeah, I was like, but, hmm, is this a good idea?
I just fought earlier that night.
joe rogan
Right, that's right.
mayhem miller
I fought earlier that night, so I was already still psyched.
I'm like, yeah, okay.
joe rogan
Oh, so you're flying high.
mayhem miller
Yeah, exactly.
So I was real pumped.
I mean, you know.
joe rogan
Right.
mayhem miller
I don't know.
And then all of a sudden, I'm in a brawl, and I tweet, whoops.
joe rogan
So you start up this website, don'tbescaredhomie.com, because Nick Diaz, is it difficult to get a fight with him?
Is that what's going on?
What's the actual real...
He's scared, homie.
All I know is what I read on the internet.
Tell me what's going on.
mayhem miller
Man.
He says, don't be scared, homie, all the time.
joe rogan
Right.
That's his...
mayhem miller
He says, don't be scared, homie.
That's his little tagline.
I stole it.
It's mine now.
brian redban
That's awesome.
mayhem miller
And look, the guy...
joe rogan
So you own Don't Bescared Homie.com?
mayhem miller
Yeah!
joe rogan
And that site is all dedicated to you getting a fight with Nick Diaz.
mayhem miller
Well, you know, to me, I like, yeah, definitely.
joe rogan
You are a nightmare.
Can you imagine if you pissed Mayhem off and Mayhem was coming after you?
unidentified
Oh, no!
joe rogan
What a nightmare!
He's relentless!
He's relentless!
It's not like you're just calling some random person out.
You're calling a guy out who's an MMA fighter who you have an altercation with.
mayhem miller
He's fought so many times, 183. He always fights there.
But then when it's me, somebody he's talked shit about, like, for years the guy's talked shit about me, and without saying my name, all these guys, these F-bombs with painted hair, these Joe Rogan words with painted hair, you know, like, he's, you know...
joe rogan
He said all these terrible things about you.
mayhem miller
Yeah, all the time.
joe rogan
So what is the...
When it comes down to signing a contract, what is the problem?
mayhem miller
Yeah, no, his manager comes on and says, Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Well, if he fights at 178, I'm like, okay, cool.
mayhem miller
I'll fight Alistair Overeem.
He just has to make 190. That's it.
I'll fight him.
I'll fucking fight this motherfucker this weekend.
joe rogan
I bet you will.
mayhem miller
190. He's got to make 190. Right.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think that mic is loose.
Can you push that?
Yeah.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude.
unidentified
Ow.
joe rogan
That hurts my ears.
mayhem miller
Oh, sorry, bro.
joe rogan
There we go.
It's loose a bit.
unidentified
Here.
I got it.
mayhem miller
I got it.
unidentified
Come on.
mayhem miller
Don't touch me, red man.
joe rogan
So, he's saying that he wants you to get down to 178, which is highly unlikely.
mayhem miller
You would be so drained.
They want to do it in January.
Like, yeah, there's no way.
joe rogan
Jason used to fight.
He fought in the UFC at 170. And you saw me?
mayhem miller
I was a goddamn skeleton.
joe rogan
God, dude.
mayhem miller
I was a skeleton.
It was the dumbest thing I ever did.
joe rogan
You were so drawn out.
mayhem miller
Yeah, I was like, why did I do that?
Like, I was...
joe rogan
Dude, you and I had a conversation about it where I was yelling at you.
I was like, you can't do this, man.
I'm like, this is too much, man.
This ain't good.
There's a lot of guys, man, that I think fight better when they don't have to cut weight.
They just feel better.
Like, look how much better BJ looked in his last fight.
And I don't know if that's just the way they match up with him and Matt Hughes, but he just looked like going into the cage.
unidentified
Healthy.
joe rogan
He did not look healthy when he made 155 last time.
He always does.
He always looks a little drawn out.
He always looks great during the fight time, but he always looks a little drawn out.
That takes something out of you, man.
mayhem miller
That's a magic that you don't...
Man, it's hard to do.
You make sure to...
Even cutting a little bit of weight is scheduling yourself really well.
You know what I mean?
You gotta be real disciplined.
Yeah, exactly.
Suck the water out the right way and rehydrate the right way.
joe rogan
Do you use IVs?
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You should always use IVs, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
Because I hear about some guys don't like to use them.
I'm like, God damn.
They feel like they're doing something gross if they're sticking a needle in them.
You know what I mean?
mayhem miller
Yeah, whatever.
That's science.
You should put more in there.
joe rogan
That's the way to do it, if you're going to do it at all.
mayhem miller
Yeah, because you have to drop weight.
That's the thing.
joe rogan
What do you think about guys like Frankie Edgar, guys that just don't cut any weight at all?
They just fight at what they fight at?
mayhem miller
No.
I mean, you know, that's awesome.
joe rogan
Do you think there's a benefit to that?
There's got to be a benefit physically, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, for sure.
You don't have to cut the weight, so you don't have to damage yourself that bad.
joe rogan
How much do you damage yourself?
mayhem miller
I don't know, man.
I think sitting in a hot box for a long time will take years off your life, for sure.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck yeah.
mayhem miller
Oh, thanks.
joe rogan
He reached in and adjusted the microphone like he was changing the collar on a tiger.
unidentified
I pre-planned it for like 10 or 15 seconds.
brian redban
I was looking at it like, alright, I'm just going to go in there real quick and be like, I even thought about, hey Jason, look at that over there, and doing one of those things.
joe rogan
So if you, let me get back to the subject, because this is a fascinating subject for me.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
If you lose weight, so say if, what do you walk around, like 210, something like that?
Yeah, well, actually, less than that, 207, 208. When you get to the point where you're about to cut weight, like when you're in training camp, when do you start to dehydrate yourself?
Do you take like just a couple of days?
unidentified
Yeah, like three days out.
joe rogan
Three days?
mayhem miller
Well, two really.
joe rogan
And so when you start at two, how heavy are you?
I don't know, probably 203, 202. So you've got to lose somewhere between 15-17 pounds?
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
mayhem miller
But I've already reduced my calories at the beginning of the week, so I'm losing some...
Like salad, I'm really light, and most of my calories are from water, calories.
So I'm hydrated, then boom, and then drop my weight all the day down there.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I know it'll take some time off your life because I'm sitting in the sauna box with the damn plastic suit on doing hoppies.
joe rogan
Right.
mayhem miller
One, two, three, four, five, six.
joe rogan
But you think the benefit that it gives you on your page is well worth it?
mayhem miller
Well, I mean, both of us are doing it.
joe rogan
Right.
mayhem miller
So, you know what I mean?
Like, both guys are, like, bigger anyway.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy, though?
unidentified
Yeah.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
Well, what the hell?
Every competitive edge.
joe rogan
I know, but if you're both trying to find it.
If you're both doing it, is it a competitive edge?
mayhem miller
Yeah, I mean, it would be better if you could just shake hands.
brian redban
Shake hands and both don't do it.
mayhem miller
Shake hands and fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, just say, listen, man, you weigh what you weigh.
Don't get crazy.
mayhem miller
Everybody's nervous, you know, whatever.
joe rogan
I know, it's a funny thing, though.
mayhem miller
It has to be like that.
I wish we could just shake hands like, yo, let's just do it like this weekend, bro.
Like, you know?
Like, no cutting weight.
Come on.
Like, let's just step off our bar stools right now.
joe rogan
The cutting weight thing is, I think it's a very unfortunate situation.
mayhem miller
Hey man, look, you're not fucking doing it, bro.
It's a fucking headache.
It's the only part of my job that I'm like, this is bullshit.
It's the only part of my job, like, man, I wish I could just go, hey dude, let's keep it real right now.
joe rogan
The fights would be better too, right?
Everybody would have more energy.
But that was the question.
What percentage do you think it takes away from you?
Say if you're at 100% at 210. I don't know, man.
mayhem miller
I want to say 100%.
I'm back.
I want to say that.
Yeah, I want to say that.
joe rogan
You want to say that when you rehydrate, you get back to 100%?
mayhem miller
I think so.
I've had it where I'm like, yeah, 24 hours.
joe rogan
So you've got it down to a science now.
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When I'm 24 hours, most of them, I've fucked up before, for sure.
Like, I've had bad equipment and that kind of thing.
Fucking, in Chicago, we didn't have a damn dry sauna.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
mayhem miller
Yeah, no dry sauna.
It's, you know, fucking sucks.
joe rogan
So what do you do then?
Do you turn the heat on or something?
mayhem miller
Oh my god, we're in there anyway, trying to sweat the weight out.
And it took forever, and I was fucking dying.
And I had to go 5'5", 25. But, you know, 5 by 25, you know.
But, damn.
What do you call it?
It's just like part of the game, you know.
So what?
Don't cry about it.
You chose this life.
joe rogan
Right, so you just figure out another way to cut.
What do you do if you don't have a sauna?
So you have to cut.
How many pounds of water are you trying to cut by the last day?
unidentified
Uh...
joe rogan
10-ish?
mayhem miller
10, yeah.
Well, maybe like...
I've tried to make it like 9-ish, but...
I've cut weight perfect before, but, you know, sometimes it'll be 10 or 11. So how do you do that if you don't have a sauna?
brian redban
Does anyone try to trick you?
mayhem miller
We did it, bro!
I did it before that fight!
joe rogan
Yeah, but you said you didn't have a sauna, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, we didn't have a sauna, but I did it.
joe rogan
What'd you do instead?
mayhem miller
It was a steam room.
It was a steam room.
joe rogan
Oh, so you did it in a steam room.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
mayhem miller
Yeah, so we didn't have the sauna.
joe rogan
It's the same thing, right?
You sweat it out, right?
Is it the same?
mayhem miller
It's not really, right?
unidentified
Yeah, it's not the same.
joe rogan
It's all the moisture on you.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
It cools you off, so it takes longer?
mayhem miller
It makes you die.
But, you know, whatever.
That just means I had a bike harder and stuff like that.
I had to, like, sweat myself out worse, you know?
joe rogan
So you think that after the IVs and everything like that, your performance is at 100% of your capacity?
If you do it right.
mayhem miller
If you do it right.
If you fuck up, I mean, that's just how it is.
joe rogan
Man, there's a fucking science to this shit.
mayhem miller
Yeah, of course.
I mean, but, you know, and my coach knows how much I sweat.
Like, he's like, oh, we got it timed out about right.
Like, oh, he's got to do this.
You know what I mean?
Like, we time it.
joe rogan
Because everybody is different, right?
Yeah, for sure.
And a good coach has to recognize that and be working with a bunch of different guys to see a bunch of different variables.
There's some dudes who can't really cut that much weight.
They get to a certain point, their body just doesn't work anymore.
And some dudes can do it.
Some dudes can do superhuman amounts.
You know, like Tiago Alves, like Gleason Tebow.
What the fuck, dude?
Gleason Tebow fights at 155, and the dude is huge.
He's gigantic.
When he gets in the cage, he's got these bodybuilder arms and back and shit, and you're like, this motherfucker weighs 155?
He looks like he's easily 185. He looks like he's 30 pounds heavier.
I mean, I don't know what he actually weighs when he gets in the cage.
They do that with boxing.
They make the guys weigh in the day of.
I don't think they want to see those numbers in the UFC. I know, they're so different.
I don't think they want to see no 30s.
You might see a 30 with Thiago Alves.
unidentified
You would, yeah.
joe rogan
You might see a 30. You might see a 200. 200 pound welterweight.
Holy shit, dude.
That's a lot of goddamn weight to lose.
I don't know how these guys do it.
They all have different methods and every camp has their own dude who's the master at that shit.
What camp is the best at cutting weight?
There's some camps that are just known for cutting tremendous amounts of weight.
Like ATT. They're known.
American Top Team.
They're known for doing it.
mayhem miller
They cut a lot of weight?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Do they have a guy?
How does that work?
Do they have one guy who's the master trainer and master weight cut strategist?
mayhem miller
I don't know.
joe rogan
How do you guys do it?
Does Ryan?
mayhem miller
Ryan Parsons?
More so, you need somebody who can...
Because you kind of know yourself.
So, moreover, you need somebody to know exactly when to do it.
Like, be your coach.
You know what I mean?
Through it.
And Ryan, he knows how to...
unidentified
Don't do it.
joe rogan
You guys have such an interesting relationship.
Now, for people who don't know, Ryan Parsons, he's been around for many, many years.
Coached some of the great guys in the business.
Spent a lot of time with Dan Henderson and Randy Couture.
He's a brilliant guy.
A very, very brilliant guy.
He's a manager and trainer to you and just a couple other fighters.
You and King Mo and this new guy, what's his name, Pat?
mayhem miller
Yeah, Pat.
joe rogan
Yeah, Pat Cummins.
mayhem miller
Durkin!
joe rogan
And he works with just a few guys.
You guys have this incredibly tight relationship, man.
That's a trip, you know?
mayhem miller
Good guy.
joe rogan
Great guy.
Great guy.
But the whole setup, the way you guys have it, you know?
Like this one guy running around training and managing this fucking select group of killers and guiding them.
mayhem miller
Yeah, it's cool.
joe rogan
It's an interesting situation.
mayhem miller
It is.
It's great.
It's like, you know, we're a tight-knit group and we all train hard and whatever.
You know, it's like we don't need to...
Open the floodgates and...
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
Yeah, individualized attention is definitely better, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
joe rogan
And a core, tight group that you can totally, completely count on.
Yeah.
mayhem miller
And yo, that's a team.
We're a team, but we're not like, hey, everybody come hang out with us and train with us.
We're a tight-knit team.
joe rogan
Yeah, for people who don't know, like, you're such a wild dude.
You're always crazy and yelling and shit, but you're very disciplined, right?
And that's what people probably either wouldn't expect or don't understand.
You're very disciplined.
Even though you're wild, you don't show up for fights out of shape.
Maybe there's one or two times in your whole career where you haven't taken someone as seriously as you should have.
But you're pretty goddamn disciplined.
mayhem miller
Yeah, I am.
I'm a dork.
I want to play video games.
joe rogan
Right, but look how much time you spend training.
Yeah, exactly.
mayhem miller
No, but what I'm saying is you go train and then you play video games.
That's like, yeah, I'm going to play video games after this.
Or, you know, yeah, that's my reward.
Or, you know, whatever.
Like, I don't know.
I like to read and write stuff.
It's easier to live that way.
joe rogan
So going back to this Nick Diaz thing.
So you've been trying so hard to get this fight.
And what are they saying?
unidentified
They're just saying no.
mayhem miller
The only way to do it is if you'll fight at 178. They're saying no.
That's saying no.
That's saying no.
178 is saying no.
unidentified
But he's fought at 183. Yeah, plenty of times.
joe rogan
He fought Scott Smith.
He's fought Frank Shamrock.
Who else did he fight that way?
mayhem miller
I don't know, guys that he could beat up.
But he can't beat me up.
joe rogan
This is a fucking very important fight for you, huh?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm angry about the whole thing.
I'm like, I need this.
joe rogan
Right.
mayhem miller
Like, I'm going to beat you up.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You shouldn't have jumped me.
unidentified
I'm a nice guy.
mayhem miller
He bullied me.
He bullied me.
joe rogan
Right.
mayhem miller
He bullied me.
brian redban
You need to beat him down.
mayhem miller
Yeah, bully beat down.
That's right.
Oh yeah, Thursday's at 10.30.
Thursday's at 10.30.
I need a Thursday's at 10.30.
brian redban
On MTV. On MTV. There's a clip from season three, which is fantastic that you should watch.
mayhem miller
What?
joe rogan
The clip?
Yeah, where you got in there.
brian redban
You got in the ring.
mayhem miller
Oh, wait.
Tweet it at me, bro.
Why don't you tweet me, bro?
brian redban
I did.
I tweeted it today.
mayhem miller
Did you tweet it today?
unidentified
Yeah.
I'm looking back through Red Band, and if you didn't tweet it today, I'm going to get so bummed right now.
brian redban
I tweeted it today.
Actually, somebody tweeted it to me, and I retweeted it.
mayhem miller
Oh, so you just gave me a retweet.
joe rogan
Listen, man.
mayhem miller
I don't know, bro.
If it doesn't have your name on it, I feel a little fucking hurt.
brian redban
It does have your name on it.
See, look.
I'll show it to you right here.
mayhem miller
No, it doesn't have your name on it.
brian redban
Joe Rogan, Red Bam.
Have you seen Mayim Miller beat down this bully?
Huge slams and grappling ground, effortless omissions.
unidentified
Hell, man.
mayhem miller
Yo, actually, yo, bro, I put the guy on a fillotine.
Phil Barone used to have this...
I don't know if he still does it.
I hope he still does it.
If he still does it, he's going to break someone's neck.
He does a front headlock choke, but you keep your belly on top of his head so you can lift him off the ground with his neck.
joe rogan
Scott Jorgensen did that to somebody in the WEC. He fillotined somebody?
It's like a front choke.
Lin-Lin does it too, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, kind of.
joe rogan
Yeah.
mayhem miller
Yeah, kind of.
Yeah.
Man.
You just jujitsu dorked everybody.
unidentified
I just realized I jujitsu nerded everybody right now.
mayhem miller
My bad.
Me and you were like, sorry everybody.
unidentified
That wasn't very, you guys don't get that joke.
joe rogan
It's a technique, yeah, we were totally indescriptive.
mayhem miller
Yeah, we were.
joe rogan
You get a guy, you get your hands locked under his chin and then you place your body, your belly, over the top of the back of his head and as you lift him up, his neck is basically trapped against your chest cavity.
So he kind of Yeah, you hoist him up in the air by his fucking neck.
It's gnarly.
And it's very hard to stop.
If a guy, a strong guy, a strong wrestler, gets that shit locked up.
mayhem miller
It's like doing a backwards row.
joe rogan
Yeah.
mayhem miller
You just go like this.
joe rogan
It's nasty.
It's nasty.
mayhem miller
Oh, man.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
I'm sorry, Eric.
unidentified
Eric.
Eric.
joe rogan
Last time he was Chris, right?
mayhem miller
I know.
joe rogan
He was Chris, and you called him Chris, and then he was Chris on the message board for like weeks afterwards.
People just kept fucking torturing him, calling him Chris.
unidentified
I'm Chris, I'm Eric.
Chris.
joe rogan
Chris, I'm Eric.
unidentified
Eric.
I'm Christy.
Let's play nice-nice, Mr. Miller.
joe rogan
So when you do that show, I mean, without giving away too much of how the show is done.
mayhem miller
What do you mean?
brian redban
That episode was amazing.
unidentified
Oh yeah, tweet it at me again and I'll tweet it back at you.
mayhem miller
And we'll fucking do a double tweet back right now.
brian redban
I mean, I had never been so happy.
That was like one of the most happiest episodes ever.
joe rogan
But this was the question, like how much is that coached?
Is that kid just being a douchey, that's his douchey self?
Is that real?
mayhem miller
Dude...
joe rogan
It's totally real.
Nobody tells him, listen, let's ham it up for the camera.
mayhem miller
We could go, let's...
We're beating up mentally disabled people.
unidentified
I'm just joking.
brian redban
Oh, man.
mayhem miller
No, I don't know.
These guys are just, you know...
joe rogan
They're just super cocky.
mayhem miller
They're knuckleheads, yeah.
They're knuckleheads.
Everybody has a knucklehead on the block, man.
Watch this joke.
joe rogan
So this kid...
This kid who got in there with you, this kid has no martial arts experience.
mayhem miller
The best part about the whole thing is that the guy called me out, too.
And I was like, man, what a coincidence.
I was like, hey, buddy, what a coincidence.
He's like, you're next, bro.
And I'm like, I'm next.
I'm like, yeah, I am next because there's nobody in front of me.
Because he doesn't know.
He doesn't know that it's me.
And I busted out.
Man, it's a great episode.
joe rogan
I watched it.
mayhem miller
Oh, you did?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I watched it, dude.
brian redban
It was like a tiger and a mouse.
joe rogan
You beat the fuck out of that kid.
brian redban
You manhandled him.
joe rogan
But what people don't know is you were being very nice.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
mayhem miller
No, I was being surgical.
Surgical.
I was like being surgical.
I was like, all right, here he comes.
joe rogan
Even when you punched and kicked him, I could see you weren't kicking him that hard.
mayhem miller
I'd just go give him one good one.
One good one, and that was it.
I knew you're not going to hurt him real bad if you just kick his leg.
Oh, my leg!
By the end of it, he was like, okay, I'm over this.
joe rogan
And you hit him with a body kick, is that what stopped him?
mayhem miller
Yeah, the first thing I did, yeah, I hit him with a body kick.
I just let him come and kicked him with a body kick.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you didn't even hit him that hard.
mayhem miller
No, no, it was with the shin pads on, too.
I'm like, man, come on, dude.
unidentified
I was like, really?
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy, though, that you could ever get in a situation where a kid who's just some punk bully kid could ever get into a situation where he's on television and he's fighting you.
mayhem miller
Well, welcome to America.
joe rogan
What a fucking...
Who sanctions this shit?
Who says this is okay?
Is it because it's a sparring session?
Is that what it is?
mayhem miller
Yeah, we're in sparring gear.
joe rogan
Because you easily could have been the Strikeforce champion.
If you had ten more seconds in that round when you had Jake's back...
mayhem miller
I say three.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
You think you haven't?
mayhem miller
Yeah, I had it.
joe rogan
You had it dark.
He was turning purple, the whole deal.
So, okay, you could have potentially been a world champion, and you're allowed to just get in there and beat the fuck out of some kid who's never really sparred, never really fought before, never competed.
brian redban
It was beautiful.
joe rogan
Poor fuck.
That kid.
That kid, he might just...
mayhem miller
I feel like there's some professional courtesy.
joe rogan
Turn into a gay hooker now.
He might just...
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, when somebody just...
A tranny hooker?
mayhem miller
I think you'd be the hottest tranny hooker.
joe rogan
He might have so little self-esteem.
He might just start...
Just give up on life.
mayhem miller
Ah, come on.
We're in America, bro.
joe rogan
That shit would devastate you, dude.
You're a young man, you think you're the shit, and you're an asshole, and you're an asshole on television, and these guys, he's really an asshole to those guys?
That wasn't bullshit?
mayhem miller
If this guy grows from it, well, there you go.
I'm doing a service.
joe rogan
If he grows from it.
mayhem miller
Yeah, if he grows from it.
brian redban
He seems like it did, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, it grows or it's going to kill you.
You get two options.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
Wait, are you trying to say that one of my contestants is going to go jump off a bridge because we got beat up on MTV's Bully Beatdown?
joe rogan
I think a lot of douchebags are in utter pain, and that's why they're douchebags.
Any big, huge, devastating thing like this could go one or two ways.
They could either learn from it and grow from it and realize they were being a shithead, or they just become devastated.
unidentified
Dish!
mayhem miller
Oh my god.
joe rogan
You just hit the rocks like this.
mayhem miller
You're making me depressed about my job, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
You just hit the rocks like this.
Boom.
That's just life.
unidentified
What?
mayhem miller
You think they're going to jump off into a harbor of some sort?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I think they're in a boat, a speedboat, and they're headed towards the cliff.
They don't even bother slowing down.
brian redban
You know what I think is going to happen?
I think that guy is going to go and beat the fuck out of those two guys that put on the show now.
I think he's going to be a super bully now, and he's going to hate them even more and fucking steal money for a moment.
mayhem miller
And then I'll fight him in a cage to the death.
joe rogan
Whoa.
mayhem miller
With a tire iron and a trash can lid as a shield.
joe rogan
Wow.
You've thought this out.
Would you have one of those leather straps inside the trash can?
mayhem miller
Are you kidding me?
Why the hell not?
joe rogan
You don't want to hold the trash can handle, right?
You would want to customize that.
mayhem miller
Yeah, to cover it around.
Actually, maybe we could do pipes.
Pipes that look cool.
joe rogan
Isn't it crazy that just a thousand years ago, that's how they were rocking it?
They had a shield and a sword, and that's how you took over a town.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking A, man!
Could you imagine?
mayhem miller
I'm just trying to think, what, in a thousand years or not?
joe rogan
Just trying to mind your own business, just chilling, hanging out with your wife and kids, and you see, over the horizon, a group of men with swords and shields.
You're like, these motherfuckers.
And they're just gonna come, and everybody they don't know, they're gonna fuck or kill.
What is it gonna be?
Fuck or kill.
Fuck then kill.
Kill then fuck.
That's the whole deal.
mayhem miller
I think it sucks no matter who's coming over the hill trying to fuck or kill you.
joe rogan
It's amazing that people didn't just kill us.
mayhem miller
I mean, I think there would be...
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Back then?
What are you talking about?
Get out of here, bro.
In the medieval days when people were hacking each other with swords, it's amazing people didn't say, I'm just going to jump off a fucking cliff.
Life sucks.
This is ridiculous.
Everywhere we go, there's fucking courts of barbarians coming over the hills with axes and shit.
brian redban
That doesn't happen all the time.
mayhem miller
That would happen one side every, you know, 16 weeks.
Like, you wouldn't like, you know, you'd just fucking leave.
joe rogan
You just leave?
mayhem miller
Yeah, you just leave.
You're like, whatever.
joe rogan
All those fucking guys that Genghis Khan killed, they're just lazy.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're just laying around.
They should have got out of there.
mayhem miller
That's business, bro.
Everybody's gonna die.
I'd rather get hacked up by barbarians than fucking go out the way I'm probably gonna go.
joe rogan
Whoa, wait a minute.
How are you planning on going out?
How are you planning on going out that's worse than getting hacked up by barbarians?
unidentified
Did you talk to Dr. Phil about this when you were on the show?
mayhem miller
Whatever, bro.
That would be more fun.
joe rogan
Worst ways to die?
That's right up there, bro.
mayhem miller
No way, bro.
You'd just be like, oh shit, and then dead.
joe rogan
Maybe not.
Maybe they gut you.
Maybe they hang you by your ankles.
mayhem miller
I'm saying, but I would fight the guy for sure.
They would have to fucking kill me.
joe rogan
Okay.
mayhem miller
I'm fighting him back.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
I hear you.
unidentified
Right?
mayhem miller
You wouldn't fight him back?
joe rogan
You might get a couple of them.
You might get a couple of them.
Do him with a sword and doesn't know what you can do?
mayhem miller
Fuck it.
I'll double leg the dude and then fucking steal his sword.
Right off his fucking back of his horse.
Man, I already thought about this.
Tackle the dude off of his horse.
Then fucking grab his sword and just take out as many as I can.
Hopefully it'll be a Jackie Chan scene.
But if not, fuck it.
unidentified
Whatever.
mayhem miller
I'll just go out and fucking arm his arm.
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
Would you have a different strategy if a dude had a double-edged sword or a single-edged sword?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You would look at him, you'd say, the single-edged sword, this guy fucked up.
mayhem miller
I would try to make an assessment as much as possible, but if they're just coming, they're coming.
Oh, man.
I hit your microphone.
Man, this fucking bunker's falling apart, bro.
brian redban
Let me fix it.
mayhem miller
Patch this place up, man.
unidentified
I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
mayhem miller
There is, obviously.
joe rogan
I think you just keep hitting it.
brian redban
All right, there.
mayhem miller
Nah, man.
unidentified
Oh.
mayhem miller
Hello?
brian redban
All right.
mayhem miller
Anyway, what the hell are we talking about, barbarians?
joe rogan
Let's get into something different.
mayhem miller
Because now I'm talking about...
joe rogan
What a strange conversation that is that dudes always have.
If a guy was coming at you with a sword...
mayhem miller
Yeah, I know.
We're totally dooting out right now.
Yo, bro, you know what?
unidentified
A bear could fucking definitely kill a walrus so quick.
joe rogan
Those are the best, though, when there's instructionals online where dudes are defending against swords.
Yeah, what do you mean?
I've seen it.
mayhem miller
Well, you know, sometimes you've got to worry about that.
When I was a kid, I was, like, always reading those karate magazines, like, well, why would you have to fight a dude with a knife?
I'm like, damn, that sucks.
And if he...
I figured the guy already knows...
If you're getting stabbed, the dude's just going to stab you anyway, right?
joe rogan
Right.
mayhem miller
You know what I mean?
If he's not going to show you, that would be the best way to get stabbed.
No one's going to come at you for the karate chop.
joe rogan
Well, maybe if they want to threaten you, they want to show it to you before they stick you.
mayhem miller
Oh, but you know that now you have to jump and do the disarm?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Most people will stab you.
They don't even want you to know they're going to stab you.
mayhem miller
Right?
joe rogan
They try to sneak in on you.
Ding!
Well, like what?
unidentified
That was racist, bro.
joe rogan
A little racist, bro.
mayhem miller
Red band, what?
joe rogan
Isn't that amazing that just saying noises like that could be racist if you said that?
Would you say ping-ping-chong?
brian redban
No, I just said ding-dong.
No, you said ching-chong, bro.
joe rogan
You sounded like an Asian person from a 1950s movie.
brian redban
I know I would never offend Asians around man.
joe rogan
You know what's the craziest thing?
In the back of the day, man, those black and white movies, they used to have, what was that fucking...
There was one television show that they used to do, or a movie series they used to do, about a Chinese detective.
And they had a white guy playing the Chinese detective.
mayhem miller
Is this Jeopardy?
I know, man.
You're like...
joe rogan
It's an old-ass show.
I'm sure someone on Twitter will know what it is.
It was an old-ass show.
brian redban
What was it again?
joe rogan
It was a white dude, but he played this Chinese detective.
Oh, really?
This wise, old Asian detective.
But it was a white dude who played it.
And they had him in all this goofy...
It was goofy-ass makeup.
Because it's like 1930 and shit.
Oh, that?
Yeah.
And so they had this dude...
mayhem miller
Well, you know what?
joe rogan
I can understand that.
mayhem miller
Back then, nobody knew Asian people.
joe rogan
You couldn't get a good Chinese actor.
mayhem miller
You couldn't get a good Chinese actor in that.
And they didn't want to give the job to the actor.
joe rogan
Charlie Chan, thank you.
How did I not remember that?
mayhem miller
I almost had that without even knowing what the fuck you were talking about.
joe rogan
I think I blocked Charlie out of my mind because of Jackie.
mayhem miller
I think I was going to say because of Vietnam.
joe rogan
Jackie Chan?
No.
Vietnam.
Oh, the word Charlie?
unidentified
What the fuck?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
brian redban
That's so crazy.
mayhem miller
I was like, how did Joe Rogan not get that?
joe rogan
Charlie Chan.
mayhem miller
He never watched Army movies, bro?
He never played Call of Duty Black Ops?
unidentified
He hasn't.
No, I haven't.
brian redban
I've been trying to get him to play that.
joe rogan
But Bruce Buffer, when I was at the airport, Bruce Buffer was playing Call of Duty while I was waiting for his plane.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We were in England.
mayhem miller
Bro, I have played EA Sports.
joe rogan
Jack's dudes with his laptop.
mayhem miller
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was sitting there with his fucking...
He's got his, like, diamonds on and shit, and his, you know, his silver Distinguished hair, and he's sitting there on his MacBook playing Call of Duty Jack of Duty.
brian redban
How could he do it with his mouse pad, though?
unidentified
That seems so hard.
joe rogan
Oh, he just doesn't.
unidentified
I don't know.
I don't know.
mayhem miller
He's moving his fingers around.
It does seem pretty hard.
joe rogan
Yeah, that ain't the way to run.
mayhem miller
I'll try that, though.
unidentified
Whatever.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, he seemed to be doing it, you know?
brian redban
Yeah, I got it in 3D, Jay.
Have you played in 3D yet?
What?
mayhem miller
Oh, yeah!
brian redban
And you can look down the sniper thing and it looks like it's just this huge sniper tunnel.
mayhem miller
No way.
brian redban
It's so cool.
joe rogan
And this is because you have the 3D TV too, right?
I have that too, bro.
brian redban
I know.
unidentified
Bump it.
joe rogan
Boop.
Both of you have 3D TVs.
unidentified
We're nerds!
joe rogan
Innovators, motherfucker.
You are a nerd.
That's what a lot of people don't know, man.
You're a big-time computer nerd.
mayhem miller
I like computers.
joe rogan
Who doesn't?
They're fucking amazing.
unidentified
I like this information in a box.
joe rogan
It's something more than that, man.
It's everything.
It's people.
The whole fucking universe is connecting through these things.
We're going to eventually share one giant consciousness.
It's all going to be connected through electronics.
mayhem miller
Yeah, huh.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
mayhem miller
Yeah, right?
joe rogan
It's just happening nice and slowly.
Nice and slowly, it's inevitable.
It's going in that direction for sure.
All this WikiLeaks shit, what this WikiLeaks shit represents is a new ethic.
What's going on is that there's going to be no more secrets anymore.
You can't have them anymore.
The exchange of information between people is going to be, at one point, it's going to be instantaneous and it's going to be all-encompassing.
We're going to have everything I know about you and everything you know about me, we're going to know everything about each other.
It's just inevitable.
mayhem miller
You're telling me you're going to plug a chip into my brain?
joe rogan
We're going to blend into one thing.
I'm telling you, this is without a doubt where we're headed.
There's no question.
mayhem miller
You're talking in a year or 3,000?
joe rogan
Well, obviously, look, if something crazy happens, like an asteroid or a tsunami...
mayhem miller
Oh, we're fucking each other up, for sure.
joe rogan
Yo, I was talking to my manager the other day, my business manager, Matt, who's a great guy, and he's not a conspiracy theorist.
He's a real level-headed dude, and he lives in...
I don't want to say where he lives, but I said, do you ever think about living near the ocean?
Do you ever think about getting a place on the water?
That'd be kind of dope.
unidentified
And he goes, yeah, but I think about tsunamis.
joe rogan
And I'm like, wow, yeah, you should think about tsunamis.
Fuck, we all should think about tsunamis.
At any point in time, the Earth could just decide to move a little bit, and a mile-high wall of water heads towards Los Angeles.
Like, that shit's real, man.
That could happen.
brian redban
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Or we get hit by an asteroid, something falls into the ocean, and a mile-high wall of water heads towards Los Angeles.
Could you fucking imagine?
Could you imagine?
mayhem miller
It's part of the charm of the city.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
You're going to die at any time.
joe rogan
It might be the only time.
brian redban
Every time I'm in a parking garage in Los Angeles, I'm like, oh, this might be the time.
mayhem miller
Is that why you live in the fucking top of a goddamn mountain?
Is that where you're getting at?
joe rogan
Yeah, absolutely.
mayhem miller
You live on a...
I have to drive all the way up a mountain because you're worried...
joe rogan
You're lucky I don't live in Colorado, bro.
We'd only be seeing each other when I come to LA. If it wasn't for my wife getting pregnant, I'd still be in Colorado.
mayhem miller
You're worried about the water?
joe rogan
Dude, I worry about everything.
I'm a fucking freak.
I worry about meteor impacts.
I worry about the shifting of the polar ice caps.
I worry about pollution.
I worry about war.
mayhem miller
Bro, you should go downhill mountain biking.
joe rogan
That's going to fix everything?
brian redban
No, I think it needs to go skiing.
mayhem miller
Nah, bro.
joe rogan
Well, I would, except I watched a detailed report on TV where a lady who was downhill mountain biking got attacked by a fucking mountain lion who ate her head.
mayhem miller
Nice.
Don't you want to die like a cool wave?
joe rogan
Her friend was beating the mountain lion with a stick as it was dragging her screaming, bleeding friend with her face torn off into the bushes, and he's beating it with a stick.
mayhem miller
So?
joe rogan
I saw that lady on TV, man, and I'm like, I don't think I'll be mountain biking.
unidentified
That shit didn't happen to you, but it could have shit.
joe rogan
So that shit didn't happen to you.
That's hilarious.
mayhem miller
Yeah, who cares?
You should do something outside your comfort zone, bro.
joe rogan
You think?
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
brian redban
Skiing or something.
joe rogan
But I'm not comfortable with anything.
mayhem miller
Oh, you're not?
brian redban
Water boat.
joe rogan
What do I need to do that's outside my comfort zone?
Tell me, master.
unidentified
I just feel like, don't be scared of life, bro.
joe rogan
No, listen, I'm half fucking around.
I would totally mountain bike.
mayhem miller
You're making me nervous.
joe rogan
I would half fuck around.
But you know, my dog was eaten by a mountain lion.
And I saw the mountain lion.
mayhem miller
Wait, so you think there's some mountain lion with a, like, help for you?
unidentified
Out to get him.
mayhem miller
You understand what I'm saying, right?
joe rogan
I'm saying I have personal experience with them.
I know that they're dangerous as fuck.
If you're going to go mountain biking around here, you're going to run into mountain lions.
unidentified
Nah.
joe rogan
You can.
It's possible.
mayhem miller
Whatever.
joe rogan
Percentage-wise, you'd probably be okay.
mayhem miller
I would fight them for a minute.
joe rogan
Oh, you'd be fine.
You know what to do, but a girl on a fucking bike.
Very rare.
Very rare.
They don't fuck with men.
They have killed women.
They killed a 19-year-old girl last year in Canada.
Singer.
Is this a recording contract?
mayhem miller
It's because of the period blood.
unidentified
It's hot shit.
joe rogan
He wasn't even trying to be funny.
That's because he's got an animal mind.
Mayhem's got an animal mind.
Just thinking about it.
He's just thinking about it.
That's what I would smell.
I'd smell her period blood, for sure.
I'd be smelling that shit, and I think I'm going to eat this bitch.
mayhem miller
How do you think I'd get all my girlfriends, bro?
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Getting killed by wolves is pretty rare, too.
We've talked about that recently on the podcast.
I didn't know that wolves have killed people as recently as this year.
unidentified
Yeah.
mayhem miller
Wolves killed some women.
You're a food source, and you're in their little sector by yourself?
unidentified
Yeah.
mayhem miller
Oh, you're fucked up.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird, though, that we have this weird thing with wolves where, you know, it used to be everyone was aware that wolves were really dangerous.
mayhem miller
Yeah, but we came backwards now, huh?
We went backwards.
We're like, because wolves are, we dumbed down the wolf.
We fucked up.
joe rogan
We fucked them up so hardcore that we feel bad that we fucked them up.
But the reason we fucked them up is because wolves were eating babies and shit.
They were eating people.
Wolves have eaten people before.
There was a kid in 2005 that got eaten by a wolf, and there was this woman that got killed by a wolf this year.
They fucking killed people.
mayhem miller
Wait, so I take it you don't go camping or anything?
joe rogan
Dude, I've been camping once, and a bear attacked our cooler, walked all over our car, tore our cooler to shreds.
mayhem miller
Bro, maybe it's your destiny to get eaten by an animal.
You should just fucking Do it, bro.
joe rogan
Should I go with it?
Yeah, bro!
brian redban
Or you should unsubscribe to Discovery.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'd be the first dude to die by ostrich bite.
mayhem miller
Bro, you maybe...
unidentified
You just need to turn off the Discovery channel at your house.
joe rogan
That would be embarrassing, man, for all my friends.
How'd he die?
Fucking ostrich kicked his ass and ate him.
Right?
mayhem miller
Like, fuck, he was covered in feathers, bro.
brian redban
Look at Steve Irwin.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, ostriches, if they kick you, you're fucked.
mayhem miller
Oh, of course.
Your guts will fall out of you.
joe rogan
They have giant...
unidentified
I just got a whole new box set.
mayhem miller
Can I get your leftovers every once in a while?
joe rogan
Can I? I'll turn you on to some shit.
unidentified
Yes!
mayhem miller
No, I don't mean to turn me on like, I don't want to buy it myself.
Just let me borrow some DVDs.
joe rogan
Okay, I'll give you some DVDs.
I got some shit for you.
I got some interesting stuff.
brian redban
You should switch to cartoons for a year or two.
joe rogan
I can't do it, dude.
I can't do it.
You know, this is what I do.
Okay, I'll go through my DVR. I'll see like, I watch HDNet fights.
I'll watch like that Anthony Bourdain no reservation show.
I see if there's any boxing matches that I missed.
And then I just go straight to all the space shows.
It's all the universe or it's all like some crazy shit on the science channel.
That's the only thing that's interesting to me.
I can't watch shows like a drama or a sitcom.
I can't do it.
I just, I can't do it.
I'll watch it for five minutes and I'll just go, oh!
Every now and then, Breaking Bad, I'll watch a cool drama.
Those are fun.
When I was getting tattooed, I was watching Breaking Bad.
I watched a bunch of it.
I watched two seasons of it.
It's pretty awesome.
mayhem miller
I watched Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
joe rogan
Is that good?
mayhem miller
God, it's a funny show.
joe rogan
What's that?
mayhem miller
It's probably one of the best shows ever, man.
I think so, man.
joe rogan
What network is that on?
mayhem miller
It's so well written.
It's a great man.
It's damn well written.
unidentified
I think it's FX. It is FX, right?
mayhem miller
FX, FX, yeah.
It's on FX. I think it's the same night as my show.
joe rogan
Really?
Damn, you're fucking pumping up a competitor.
mayhem miller
No, I know, but I watch it.
It's like my show's on, and then you can change the channel, and there's your...
We live in TiVo land.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is so true.
You're really not competing with anything.
mayhem miller
We're not competing with anything.
joe rogan
Just save this.
The only time I watch things as they're happening is fights.
unidentified
Yeah, me too.
mayhem miller
If you need to know that it's...
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's just how life is, but Oysun is really good, man.
They have so many great characters and stuff, and it's well-written.
joe rogan
Did you watch the Manny Pacquiao fight man?
mayhem miller
Yeah, man with my dad and a hunting trip It was awesome like sit out there in the country watching many back Yeah, my dad like screaming and yelling like for the wrong guy like what man that's not even pack Yeah, that's slingbox.
joe rogan
I watched it on my laptop in London.
Oh, yeah Glory damn that motherfuckers good.
Yeah, he's I wonder, though, with his style, though, you know, I wonder if he could fuck with Floyd Mayweather.
mayhem miller
No, I know.
That's what everybody wants to see.
joe rogan
I still don't know.
I still don't know.
If you look at the way Floyd Mayweather, the way he just handled Manuel Marquez.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
Yeah.
Juan Manuel Marquez.
mayhem miller
Style-wise, though.
I think style-wise, it matches up pretty good.
Like, I think Manny matches up pretty good.
I think that...
joe rogan
Yeah, Marquez couldn't do shit to Floyd, though.
And Marquez and Mayweather went to war.
They went to war twice.
mayhem miller
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Dude, Floyd just shut all that shit down.
mayhem miller
But Pacquiao's fast.
Pacquiao is pretty good.
He's fast, and he moves well, takes a good shot.
And Mayweather got rocked real bad by Mosley.
That kind of showed that, oh, okay, you can get touched.
Yeah, he got tagged.
Yeah, he got tagged real good.
joe rogan
That one punch really kind of fucked it up for Mosley because he stopped boxing and started bombing.
He lost his rhythm.
mayhem miller
He got angry.
joe rogan
Yeah, he lost his rhythm.
That was a tough fight for him anyway.
That dude is...
It's amazing.
When you see boxers, it's so strange that boxers can compete at that high a level when they're like 40. He's like 39, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, it's business.
joe rogan
Some guys can keep going, and some guys, it just all falls apart.
It's interesting.
Look at Hopkins.
Is he so technical?
45, 46 years old.
He's still fighting.
That's incredible, man.
Yeah, it is.
mayhem miller
Undoubtedly, man.
joe rogan
At the end of the day, that's what's the most important in every combat sport.
It's technique.
All that ferocity and everything, it's so important.
You have to have it.
You have to have strength.
You have to have endurance.
You have to have fighter spirit.
But what's most important is technique.
All that other shit, you can have too.
All that other shit has to be processed through technique, though.
And guys that just rely on one thing, that just rely on their aggressiveness or rely on their athleticism.
How many times have you watched guys fight in MMA on TV and you see...
Like a guy that's like super hyper-aggressive, but yet he's got all these holes in his stand-up, and he's dropping his hands goofy, and he's not turning his kicks over, but he's just super aggressive, and that's how he's winning.
He's beating guys by just being...
And you're like, this guy's just like...
Eventually, he's going to run into a guy that's as tough as him, but is technical, and then he's fucked.
mayhem miller
Yeah, of course.
That always happens.
It's just the style.
I was like, this guy's got smarter technique.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's like the big battle, isn't it?
mayhem miller
Isn't it?
joe rogan
You know?
mayhem miller
Isn't it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Man, the life of a martial artist, a professional mixed martial artist, that has got to be a trippy way to fucking pay your bills, son.
unidentified
Isn't it?
mayhem miller
I know.
There's been moments where I've stood across the ring from someone, and I'm like, I'm about to fight another grown man on national television.
I'm like, this is my life right now.
joe rogan
Do you try to squash those thoughts, or you just go, well, it is what it is?
mayhem miller
No, what do you mean?
I just go, ha, ha, ha.
unidentified
I'm about to fight somebody on TV. So you laugh.
joe rogan
So you think it's funny.
mayhem miller
In my head, yeah.
I'm like, it's so weird.
Like, whatever.
You know, you just take a different path in your life.
You're like, oh, this is what I'm doing.
You know?
It's, I don't know.
It's very strange.
It's very different.
But, I mean, you know, it's just my job.
Like, this is what I'm going to do.
joe rogan
It's a crazy-ass way to make a living, son.
mayhem miller
Yep.
joe rogan
That's a crazy-ass way.
It's business.
Don't cry for me, bro.
What are you talking about?
I'm not crying.
We're just talking.
mayhem miller
I know.
That's what I mean.
joe rogan
My life to other people would be horrific.
Getting on stage and doing comedy or talking in front of you.
mayhem miller
I never even realized that that is a lot of people's number one fear.
joe rogan
I'm like, what?
mayhem miller
Why?
Have you done it lately?
joe rogan
I don't want to be judged.
brian redban
Have you done it lately?
Me?
mayhem miller
No.
I mean, Ella's show and...
Right.
brian redban
There's a new place you need to check out.
mayhem miller
They want me to do a show on the 16th.
joe rogan
On what?
mayhem miller
Huh?
joe rogan
A show on the 16th?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
Of what?
December?
Yeah.
mayhem miller
Should I do it?
unidentified
Joe Rogan?
joe rogan
A comedy show?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hell yeah.
You could totally do it.
unidentified
All right.
mayhem miller
What do I talk about, though?
joe rogan
Anything.
Write a bunch of shit down.
mayhem miller
All right.
joe rogan
The 16th, what's today's date?
brian redban
Talk about the blood in your store.
joe rogan
Today is the 29th?
mayhem miller
December 16th.
joe rogan
Oh, so you've got like, how many days are in November?
November 30?
unidentified
Yeah.
30?
mayhem miller
So I've got that long to do it.
brian redban
I can do it.
joe rogan
17 days, man.
mayhem miller
I'll say some funny shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know what?
How much time do you have to go up for?
mayhem miller
I don't know.
I'll figure it out.
joe rogan
This is the key word I want you to use.
Period blood.
Those two words.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Use those.
And coyotes.
mayhem miller
That was a zinger, right?
unidentified
Period blood.
joe rogan
No.
mayhem miller
I'm going to steal that shit.
unidentified
No, it's good.
mayhem miller
I'm going to use it from the...
All right, you guys are seeing.
If I go up on the 16th, if they improv...
joe rogan
This should be the punchline.
Period blood.
mayhem miller
Period blood.
That would just be the punchline.
joe rogan
I guess girls would think about that shit if they got in the water, too.
That sharks would bite their pussy.
mayhem miller
Right?
joe rogan
You know?
I mean, my God.
Could you fucking imagine?
The thought...
brian redban
That's how you dye your hair color.
joe rogan
The shark is going for your pussy because he smells your period.
Someone must have died like that somewhere along the line.
Some girl must have died and a pussy eaten out by a shark.
She must have.
mayhem miller
You're right.
joe rogan
It must have happened.
With all the people that have been killed by sharks for all the hundreds of thousands of years people have been on this planet.
mayhem miller
Undoubtedly.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, you can't get me in that fucking water.
That water can suck my dick.
mayhem miller
What's wrong with you, dude?
joe rogan
Some kid just got bit in half in San Bernardino.
mayhem miller
Time the fuck out.
joe rogan
Not San Bernardino, Santa Barbara.
mayhem miller
What's wrong with you, bro?
Why are you so scared of the entire world?
unidentified
I'm not scared.
joe rogan
I'm fascinated.
I'm fascinated.
mayhem miller
You're scared, though.
joe rogan
But I'm not.
I just don't think that getting eaten by a shark is worth the thrill of surfing.
mayhem miller
Bullshit, bro.
You've never surfed before.
unidentified
Fuck that.
joe rogan
I don't need to, son.
unidentified
You don't want to go mountain biking because the fucking mountain lions will eat you.
You don't want to go surfing because the fucking sharks will eat you.
brian redban
Breaking it down.
joe rogan
Exactly.
mayhem miller
Okay?
joe rogan
Yes.
mayhem miller
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Those are monsters, and I try to avoid monsters in my everyday life.
brian redban
You don't want to go roller skating.
joe rogan
Especially monsters in the water, man.
At least a mountain lion, you might be able to fucking get them in a guillotine.
You know what I'm saying?
A mountain lion might fuck up.
mayhem miller
No, you can't.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
A mountain lion might fuck up.
You might get on top.
You might sprawl.
You know what I'm saying?
mayhem miller
You might take his back.
joe rogan
You might take that mountain lion's back.
mayhem miller
Wait, now you're head shucking a mountain lion?
That's what you're going to do?
You're going to sling them down to the ground?
You're darting a mountain lion.
joe rogan
I'll dart the fuck out of him in his stupid, fucking, dirty, stinky, shit-covered paws.
Fuck a mountain lion.
But a shark will eat your asshole.
There's not much you can do about it.
mayhem miller
Wait, you're bleeding out of your asshole a lot?
joe rogan
He's going to eat you.
He's going to come up from behind so you don't even see him coming.
And he's just going to start eating you.
mayhem miller
So what, bro?
That's the risk we all take of living here on Mother Earth.
The Great Gaia.
joe rogan
That's beautiful, man.
mayhem miller
I know, right?
joe rogan
I try to avoid being a part of the food chain, except the top part.
Yeah, but nobody...
mayhem miller
Listen, the chances that you're going to get eaten by an animal while doing an outdoor activity are very low.
joe rogan
They're way, way higher than if you don't go to those places where the monsters are.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
I find that the best way to cut down on the possibility of getting eaten by monsters is to not go near the monsters.
mayhem miller
Bro, so would you go hang gliding?
joe rogan
What am I, a fucking bird?
Listen, man, that's a dumbass way to go.
Smashing into the rocks from an errant breeze.
Oh, whoops, now I'm dead.
mayhem miller
He doesn't want to go hang gliding because he might get eaten by a pterodactyl.
joe rogan
Brian, why don't you tell him the story about your dad and parachuting?
mayhem miller
Yeah, no, paragliding?
joe rogan
Why don't you tell it?
mayhem miller
Wait, I already know this story before you even tell it.
But that's the type of thing...
joe rogan
I bet you don't.
mayhem miller
Parachuting or paragliding?
joe rogan
Parachuting.
mayhem miller
So he jumped out the fucking thing and died?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
This is his dad.
His dad.
brian redban
Brian.
My dad worked with somebody that every week she was like, Hey, you need to come...
You know, skydiving with me, because she did it every weekend.
And he was, like, thinking about it, even though he didn't want to.
And one day, she died.
She jumped out, and I guess, like, her emergency parachute went with her regular parachute.
mayhem miller
She dances with the devil, bro.
brian redban
To me, that was, like, one out of one million, though.
I would never parachute, but...
I think Joe should go roller skating, and if not, I want to know what it's excuses.
mayhem miller
I've heard plenty of bad stories.
I'm not scared.
Don'tbescaredhomie.com.
joe rogan
Don'tbescaredhomie.com.
mayhem miller
That's what I should use that website for, to put, like, don't be scared, homie.
joe rogan
Sure, after the fight.
Yeah, that is a good idea, man.
Look, you know, think about, like, what would Tyler Durden do.com.
They have that site.
unidentified
They have that?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, it's a cool site.
mayhem miller
The biggest company.
joe rogan
Brian's friend.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Brian interacts with that guy.
mayhem miller
Oh, I want him to help me.
joe rogan
He's funny.
Dude, man.
What would Tyler Durden guy...
It's WTDD. He says some funny shit, man.
He's got some really good, like, one-liners on things that are going on the news.
He's a funny guy.
brian redban
Yeah, he's funny.
And he hates Paris Hilton a lot.
mayhem miller
Oh, he's the anti...
He's the anti...
Perez Hilton?
joe rogan
Perez Hilton.
brian redban
No, Perez, yeah.
joe rogan
No, you're not Paris, bro.
I mean, the guy.
unidentified
No, no, no.
brian redban
He hates Paris.
joe rogan
Oh, he hates Paris.
brian redban
Yeah, his tweets on Paris are hilarious.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why would he hate her?
She's just some lost child.
Why would he give a fuck?
mayhem miller
Because it's funny.
It's in right now to make fun of Paris Hilton.
joe rogan
Again?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I thought that died off.
mayhem miller
Yeah, it did.
joe rogan
Yeah, it has to die off.
Because at a certain point in time, you become the joke for caring about her.
Why are you still talking about this one person out of a river of humans?
mayhem miller
No, what do you mean?
It's the next one, the next one, the next one.
joe rogan
It's amazing, though.
mayhem miller
I can't believe that people stay irrelevant.
Like, to me, it's like, why?
Like, why are these people famous?
I was like, this is kind of sad.
unidentified
It's amazing.
mayhem miller
It's like sad with our culture.
Like, I feel bad for us.
Like, man, and I start caring because the other people care.
I'm like, man, damn it, why do I care?
joe rogan
I don't want to pretend that I know what's going to happen in the future because I obviously don't.
I don't know whether or not we're going to pull ourselves out of this downward spiral, this humanity downward spiral with some sort of a technological innovation or something.
But if it doesn't happen, I'm so hyped.
mayhem miller
Man!
You are fucking deep in the damp.
joe rogan
What were we talking about before he said that?
brian redban
Paris Hilton?
joe rogan
Paris Hilton.
brian redban
This is a quote that he did.
Paris Hilton, everyone hates you.
No one is going to watch your dumb show.
No one cares anymore.
Go kill yourself.
unidentified
That's the meanest tweet ever.
mayhem miller
It's so mean that it was funny.
brian redban
It was so mean that it was ridiculous.
It sounded like Ari Shaffir wrote that.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, this is what I was going to say.
I don't know whether or not we are ever going to pull ourselves out of this downward spiral, but if you look at a civilization, if you look at a civilization right before it was going to fall, like Rome or the Greek Empire, all you hear about is them going crazy.
All you hear about is feathers, and they're eating, and they're throwing up, and they're fucking everything, and they're fucking little boys and shit, and there's lions versus Christians.
It's always the craziest, craziest shit goes down, and that's what everybody talks about after it falls apart.
Well, isn't that what's happening right here?
I mean, it has to be.
It's happening slowly.
That's what it is.
I mean, we were talking, Brian and I were looking at the pictures of the Colosseum in Rome.
We were having lunch at this Italian place today, and they had this photo of the Colosseum in Rome, and the photo was from 2010, right?
So the Colosseum is this fucking incredible old piece of architecture where people fought fucking lions.
It's right there in the center of that bitch.
And there's cars just driving around it.
And the cars, the distance between the curb and the fucking walls of this insane old building is what?
15 feet?
10 feet?
It's like there's no space.
It's like car and this insane old building.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
brian redban
People are probably peeing on it now.
joe rogan
That shit just fell apart.
It fell apart and nobody fixed it.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It just fell right apart.
That could easily happen with us.
And if it does, they're going to be talking about us the same way we talk about the Romans.
mayhem miller
So mountain biking.
joe rogan
They'll be like, these crazy assholes had TV shows where regular people became famous.
Girls became famous because they were showing their pussies, they'd get out of the cars.
How many girls became famous or got massive publicity for showing their pussy on TV? Or showing their pussy, rather, in publicity for these magazines?
How many times that happened?
unidentified
So, 14. That would be something...
joe rogan
I think that's incorrect.
unidentified
You don't think 14 is right?
joe rogan
I think 14, maybe.
Maybe 14 girls are showing their pussy.
Pretend that they've accidentally shown their pussy.
mayhem miller
You think it's 14?
Somebody researched that.
joe rogan
Probably not that many.
mayhem miller
Probably like six.
joe rogan
The point is, that's going to be something they would talk about in the future when they study ancient history.
They talk about the fall of the American empire.
What are they going to talk about?
They're going to talk about how nutty we were.
The girls would just show their pussies.
Girls became famous for leaking sex tapes.
unidentified
Just fucking sucking cock.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Kim Kardashian.
She got famous.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
For hanging out with a girl who should have been, you know, there should have been no reason for Paris Hilton to become famous.
Why was she famous?
Well, she just figured out how to do it.
Don't hate.
There she is.
And so Kim Kardashian was hanging out with her and goes, you know what?
I got to kick this up a notch.
I'm going to do a porno with a black guy.
So she does the porno with this dude.
She sucks his dick, fucks him, everything.
It's all real legit porno.
And then it's like, oh, how did that get out there?
Darn it.
And then that becomes a huge hit show.
And then she becomes a mainstream celebrity on the cover of almost every magazine.
Every goddamn time I go to the magazine stand, her face is on the cover of some magazine.
Whether it's a fitness magazine or...
Anything.
It's amazing.
That would be something that people would look at and say, look how crazy they got.
They just made regular people.
Like, you don't have to sing.
You don't have to dance.
You don't have to write.
You don't have to create.
Well, she has charisma.
She's got an ass.
mayhem miller
She's got an ass and she has some charisma.
You think so?
Charisma meant ass.
So, yeah.
No, I don't know.
joe rogan
But don't you think that if you were looking at a culture...
mayhem miller
If people like...
I know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If you looked at it for the future.
Yeah, of course.
That's what you would say.
You'd say, look at these crazy assholes.
mayhem miller
No, maybe some people are just going to...
Have the charisma, and then all of a sudden, they're going to be awesome.
joe rogan
I don't think we're on the same track.
mayhem miller
Everybody will have it.
brian redban
Have you guys seen that movie, Christine?
mayhem miller
How about everybody will just be famous, and we're all like, whoa, wait!
We just connected the two things right now.
That's what I was just thinking.
Everybody has a computer chip in their brain, and then you walk up to this guy and go, oh, he's awesome.
And then everyone will just shine in a magical land.
joe rogan
Well, I think eventually your phone number will be like a channel.
mayhem miller
Right to the brain?
Like, oh, bro, let me get your channel number because I really want to dance around in your head right now.
joe rogan
That'll be right before the final immersion.
That's what will be the last step.
mayhem miller
What's the final immersion?
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Final immersion is no consciousness other than the one, everybody together.
mayhem miller
So we're going to get all linked up like the matrix right now?
That's what's gonna happen.
joe rogan
No emotion, no bullshit, no negativity.
mayhem miller
Oh, we're gonna be aliens, and then we're gonna send ourselves back all the way through the universe, back in time to us.
joe rogan
Oh man, you're freaking me out, man!
That's ultimate stoner talk.
There's no more ultimate stoner talk then.
What happens when you die?
Or future?
Aliens in the future.
And what's going to happen, man?
When's it going to end, man?
mayhem miller
I know.
joe rogan
That's all I do.
That's all I do.
I'm a fucking fool.
All I do all day is not even think about the moment.
Just worry constantly about what is going to happen in the future.
unidentified
Bro.
mayhem miller
Man, I feel like this...
It's a little therapeutic right now.
It's a breakthrough.
joe rogan
Look, to me, it's all just hyper-fascinating.
It's all hyper-fascinating.
It's not that I'm not...
brian redban
I have been hanging out with Dr. Phil.
How is that?
You got any secrets of the Dr. Phil?
mayhem miller
I don't know.
Dr. Phil was...
I was like, damn.
That was just as weird as me getting ready to fight.
I'm like, man, I'm about to fight a man.
Man, I'm about to go on a Dr. Phil show.
joe rogan
Were you nervous?
mayhem miller
No, I was just like, this is so weird.
I was nervous.
I was just like, what the hell am I doing?
unidentified
This is so funny.
brian redban
Did he give you a massage or anything?
Is there anything that he did when the cameras were off?
mayhem miller
I wanted to touch his head, but that's disrespectful.
brian redban
Right.
mayhem miller
I mean, just to say I did it, you know?
joe rogan
Was he a nice guy?
mayhem miller
Yeah, he was a nice dude.
joe rogan
Really nice guy?
mayhem miller
Yeah, Dr. Phil's cool.
I was like, man, this is the...
No, he had a weightlifter hand grip.
brian redban
Really?
mayhem miller
Yeah, I'm like, yeah.
joe rogan
A weightlifter hand grip?
unidentified
Yeah, a little bit.
mayhem miller
I was like, hey, man, Dr. Phil's kind of buff.
unidentified
Wow.
mayhem miller
I swear.
joe rogan
I was like, really?
mayhem miller
Yeah, he played football in high school.
Yeah, for sure.
College, maybe.
joe rogan
If Dr. Phil called you up, hey, Jason, I'm down here at the bar thinking about getting a beer.
Would you like to join me?
mayhem miller
Hell yeah, I want to talk to Dr. Phil.
I'd like to talk to Dr. Phil.
joe rogan
What would you do if Dr. Phil just started talking pussy?
mayhem miller
Man, I would...
unidentified
Let's cut the bullshit.
joe rogan
Dr. Phil just started talking crazy pussy stories back before I was married.
brian redban
Remember when I was supposed to be on that Dr. Phil show, or the doctors, and you talked me out of it?
joe rogan
What was it about?
brian redban
For salvia.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
And they were going to show my video and everything.
joe rogan
Don't, dude, I told them, don't be going on.
mayhem miller
Aw, you're going to do something?
joe rogan
First of all, that's going to contribute to the end of that salvia.
brian redban
Right, I know, that's what I was thinking.
joe rogan
That shit is so fragilely legal.
brian redban
It's not anymore.
I don't think it's legal anymore.
joe rogan
It's still legal in California, I'm pretty sure.
brian redban
I thought it was.
joe rogan
Some states.
It's legal in some states still.
Some states made it illegal, and I think they just made it illegal in Florida.
brian redban
That's fucked up.
unidentified
What does it do to you?
joe rogan
It doesn't hurt anybody, man.
This is why it's weird that they're making it illegal.
The problem is, it's sort of a guilt by association thing, because if you consider it, and even though you look at the statistics, and there's no deaths, and there's no immediate danger...
You know, health-wise, like, why should it be illegal?
Well, because it's like all this other shit that's illegal.
Salvia is one of the most potent psychedelic drugs in the world, and it's available at head shops, whereas, you know, it's really hard.
brian redban
It's available at Target.
What are you talking about?
They sell Salvia at Target.
joe rogan
Do they really?
brian redban
Salvia plants.
joe rogan
Oh, salvia plants.
brian redban
Yeah, that's pretty trippy.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right.
It's sage.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, that's what salvia is.
unidentified
Oh, what?
joe rogan
That's it?
That's it.
I don't know if it's the same strain.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
brian redban
No, what it is is they extract it, and they condense it down, and they extract it.
So you get salvia times 60. So it's like this little condensed form, or not condensed, or whatever.
mayhem miller
Wait, and then you wait.
Do you put that in your coffee?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
brian redban
It's like weed, and you have to get this.
joe rogan
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
brian redban
You get this lighter that you have to have one of the crack lighters with the blue torches and it gets it up to a certain temperature and it releases a, pretty much it's like a whippet of mushrooms.
You know, you're just doing, oh god, I'm shrooming, oh my god, my face is on fire, I'm melting, I'm dead, oh hey, I'm back.
But the problem is, is kids were doing this, you know, and...
joe rogan
50 times a day.
brian redban
50 times a day, right.
Making the most hilarious YouTube videos in the world.
If you ever want to see some of the funniest shit, just go on YouTube, type in Salvia.
mayhem miller
Oh, the kid and the kid...
brian redban
Yeah, the kid's doing all that shit.
Yeah, exactly.
Or...
Alright.
mayhem miller
Was that a good impression of...
joe rogan
I never watched it.
brian redban
It looked like a seizure, though.
joe rogan
Was that a good impression of a seizure?
I've seen a few seizures.
mayhem miller
I'm just saying, was that a good seizure?
joe rogan
That was decent.
unidentified
That's a good seizure.
brian redban
That's a good seizure.
joe rogan
I told the story about, or told it before, but I used to have my friend Johnny.
His girlfriend used to fake seizures.
mayhem miller
Why?
unidentified
He did, the girl, she wanted attention so bad, she used to fake seizures.
joe rogan
She would fall down and, like, fake a seizure, and he would use it as an excuse to slap her in the face.
unidentified
Ha ha!
joe rogan
He's like, honey, wake up!
Wake up, honey!
Wake up!
And I'd see him bite his lip while he was hitting it, like, fucking bitch!
Like, he'd really give her slaps in the face.
mayhem miller
Why?
That's the most healthy relationship I've ever heard of.
joe rogan
Chaos.
That's the most amazing thing about knowing a lot of fucked up people.
mayhem miller
What, everyone saw you have a story like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It puts it all in perspective, too.
You realize...
mayhem miller
Damn, man.
My girl sucks.
At least she's not faking seizures in a fucking grocery store where you have to slap the shit out of her in front of everybody.
That's the saddest thing ever.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Pretty goddamn ridiculous.
mayhem miller
Yo, you got this chick's number or what?
joe rogan
She's dead.
mayhem miller
Damn.
unidentified
She's dead?
mayhem miller
She deserves to be.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
I love she's dead.
I don't know if she's dead.
He's dead, though.
mayhem miller
Oh, poor bastard.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was my best friend.
Fascinating dude.
Yeah.
Hung out with a lot of crazy bitches.
mayhem miller
Yeah, you know, that can get easy to do, man.
Because, you know, a chick is beautiful.
joe rogan
Sure.
mayhem miller
You don't know that she's banana sandwich.
joe rogan
And you don't care either because once you start having sex with them.
mayhem miller
You deal with it and then you're like, oh, what am I doing right now?
joe rogan
The problem with dudes is once you start having sex with them, if it's good and they're hot.
mayhem miller
Wait, you have sex with dudes?
unidentified
What?
What?
You just said.
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
Listen to me, you fucking clowns.
The problem with us is that when you have sex with a girl and she's hot, you get addicted to it.
You got one, and she's super hot, and she's sexy, and she's got a killer body.
You're like, you could get that again.
You could always get that again.
So even if she's crazy, you start going, fuck.
You want, alright, well, I don't know.
Okay, what are you doing?
You want to go out tomorrow?
And then the next thing you know, you're fucking her again.
The next thing you know, this is your girlfriend.
This crazy bitch is your girlfriend.
And just because she's hot and she's got a good, you know.
mayhem miller
I know.
joe rogan
She's a freak.
And the crazy ones, a lot of times, they're more fun in bed because they want to please you.
They want to, you know, they really want you to be rocked.
So they'll freak you out more.
And then you're even extra stuck.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Right?
Because if you get used to that, you get used to what my friend Tony always says, that erotic and psychotic are like, they're like next door neighbors.
What are you doing over there, Brian?
brian redban
He was looking for something to drink, so I gave him some check.
joe rogan
You want another coconut drink?
mayhem miller
Yeah!
joe rogan
Coconut drink!
mayhem miller
Thanks, dude.
You're like the best intern ever, Joe.
joe rogan
Thank you.
unidentified
Thanks.
mayhem miller
I like how he's wearing a paperboy cap too, man.
brian redban
I know.
unidentified
Hey, mister.
mayhem miller
Hey, Skippy.
unidentified
Here's your coconut water.
mayhem miller
Exactly.
unidentified
Ha ha!
mayhem miller
Man!
You need like one in the couch, Joe Rogan.
brian redban
That's one of the best ones.
mayhem miller
You have regular water?
I know you have regular water in there.
Damn it, bro!
That's alright, you know what?
I was drinking it out of the sink.
I like to do it old school, like, you know, grab to the thing and go underneath.
brian redban
That's his jerk-off sink, though.
mayhem miller
Ah, I drink out of the jerk-off sink?
brian redban
Yeah, he puts his dick underneath the sink and it drops the water on it like a girl does in a bathtub.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
I don't know.
brian redban
Have you ever heard of girls that do that, that masturbate by putting their pussy right underneath the faucet and they just slowly turn it on?
joe rogan
That's got to be a benefit of being a chick.
It must be way easier to masturbate.
brian redban
Open wound.
Yeah, totally.
mayhem miller
You think so?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
mayhem miller
I don't know, man.
They've got a lot of arm motion.
joe rogan
They stick stuff in there, bro.
brian redban
Yeah, they're allowed to put things in there.
joe rogan
If a girl gets used to that, that's the real problem.
She gets used to a vibrator.
Some girls get broken.
Their pussies just get broken to regular stimulation.
They're just so oversensitized.
brian redban
That happens a lot more than I thought it did.
mayhem miller
They've got to cycle off, like coffee.
Yeah, you stop doing coffee for a while, and then all of a sudden you're like...
Drink a coffee, you're like, oh yeah, I'm freaking pumped!
joe rogan
It's true, right?
Big difference.
mayhem miller
Yeah, right?
It's like, you just stop.
joe rogan
The weirdest thing, I know when I'm drinking coffee too much, when I can drink it and then get sleepy.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's when you know, like, you gotta stop drinking coffee, dude.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
You know, if you drink it so much, you can drink it, and all of a sudden you get sleepy.
mayhem miller
I wonder why that is, right?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's probably not good.
mayhem miller
Probably your liver, like, going, oh, too much coffee!
joe rogan
Your kidneys trying to shut you down, going, dude.
They say a little bit of coffee is not bad for you, but you can get...
The problem with, like, Starbucks coffee is if...
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Which is the best.
mayhem miller
Don't be hating on Starbucks right now.
unidentified
What did I say?
mayhem miller
The best fucking thing you say is bad about Starbucks.
joe rogan
Listen, bro.
brian redban
I'm a gold card member.
joe rogan
Okay, man.
I know there's a coffee bean thermos in front of me, but that's not because I'm disloyal.
mayhem miller
It's not product placement?
joe rogan
But the problem is that Starbucks coffee has a fuckload of caffeine in it.
brian redban
Not enough.
joe rogan
Wait, not enough?
mayhem miller
That's why I drink it, man.
brian redban
My new thing is getting iced coffee unsweetened with three shots.
In an IV? Three espresso shots.
joe rogan
Three, man.
But they say espresso is not as much caffeine as coffee is.
brian redban
No, but that's on top of a...
mayhem miller
So it's three cups of coffee, though.
brian redban
Yeah, that's...
joe rogan
Three cups of espresso.
unidentified
Three shots is like three cups of coffee, right?
joe rogan
A shot of espressos?
It's like three cups of coffee?
unidentified
Almost, yeah.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
That's what I'm saying.
mayhem miller
No, it's like a weak cup of coffee.
Like it's three weak cups of coffee, but they're like condensed into small.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
I thought you were saying that each shot is three cups.
It's not quite a cup of coffee.
A shot is espresso.
It's like slightly below an average cup of coffee.
unidentified
Sort of.
brian redban
But that's how they make Americanas.
joe rogan
It's a fucking fascinating subject because you can get...
I mean, look.
You go and get a Venti.
You go and get a Venti Starbucks.
You take somebody who has never drank coffee before.
Someone who doesn't take any stimulants.
And you just give them that Venti.
They might have to sit down.
They might be so jacked.
They might be like, my heartbeat is beating too fast.
mayhem miller
But that's the nature of coffee.
joe rogan
Your hands can be shaken.
mayhem miller
You have to get used to it.
You get drugged up and boom.
It's a legal drug.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
mayhem miller
It's legal.
It's a drug.
brian redban
How many coffees a day do you have, Jason?
mayhem miller
I don't know.
Like two?
brian redban
Fourteen?
mayhem miller
No, I know.
I'm real high tension.
joe rogan
I don't allow myself more than one.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
The only time it's two is if I'm really busy working.
mayhem miller
That's what I mean.
I'll go like in the morning and then in the afternoon sometimes.
Bam!
I'm hyped.
At Starbucks.
brian redban
I would like to see you on a muscle relaxer.
I bet you'd just be like, hello guys, how are you doing today?
joe rogan
I bet that shit would have no effect.
I think this shit's broke!
mayhem miller
I think it's fucking broke!
Muscle relaxer don't work!
joe rogan
That's you, dude.
mayhem miller
They had to juice me up with a lot of that stuff to put me to sleep, though.
joe rogan
Really?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you got operated on?
mayhem miller
Yeah, when I got operated to put a plate in my thumb.
And they're like, alright, we're going to pump you full of stuff.
And he goes in there to put you in there.
And I'm like, whoa!
I feel like a giant rush over my whole body.
I'm like, oh my god!
And they're like, okay, just relax.
And I'm like, no, no, I'm not.
I'm like, man, I'm high right now.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
You're about to be operated on?
This is the type of shit you're saying?
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, man, I'm high right now.
I was like that, and the guy looks at me like, oh, and I realize that the stuff is too weak, and I'm like, you can't knock me out!
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha!
mayhem miller
No way.
that laugh the guy was laughing i like i remember as i'm all blurry like with all the drugs like and i'm like man i look and i remember him like smirking at me and then going back oh man i shouldn't talk shit to him like that wow because because i came out of it like thinking i was in a fight like like and like kicking at the nurses and everything like that and i was like oh And I was like, oh, my bad.
Like, I was like, oh, sorry.
Then I felt so sick because he pumped me so full of that stuff that, like, I was like, man, what did I do?
joe rogan
Can you imagine being a fucking nurse?
mayhem miller
Oh, they were kind of used to it, honestly.
joe rogan
They're used to dudes kicking them?
mayhem miller
Yeah, they're like, yeah, because they do all extreme athlete crazy dudes.
joe rogan
Really?
mayhem miller
And they're like, yeah, we've seen people jump up out of their seats.
So they were like, it was mellow.
And I was like, oh, I'm very sorry.
I was apologizing.
joe rogan
It's a weird feeling going out like that.
Going under and waking up and you're operated on already.
Your knees stitched up together.
mayhem miller
Yeah, weird.
joe rogan
It's very strange.
How many operations have you had?
mayhem miller
Only like, I don't know, four or something.
joe rogan
What have you had done?
mayhem miller
Knees, like cleaning out stuff, and ACL replacement, and putting a plate in the tub.
joe rogan
Just one ACL replacement, or did you have another one?
mayhem miller
Yeah, both of them.
joe rogan
Both of them done?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
And I had the middle of my knee cut out, because it was gnawing the hell out of me.
I cut it out.
joe rogan
What is it?
What do you mean the middle of your knee?
mayhem miller
It was a meniscus.
It was sticking out, a punch.
joe rogan
Oh, a bucket handle.
Yeah, a bucket.
mayhem miller
Wow, you know.
joe rogan
I had that.
I had that on my left.
mayhem miller
Oh yeah, we talked.
joe rogan
I had that shit out, but it clicks.
mayhem miller
It would click, it would get stuck, and I'd be like, oh god!
And I'm just like, yank that thing out of there.
joe rogan
That shit is a ferocious pain, too.
That meniscus pain, that's tough to fade.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very difficult to ignore.
It's not something you just walk off.
No, no.
It's a bone-piercing pain.
Weird.
Knees are so fucking painful.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Did you have a couple testicles added?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
brian redban
I have like 17 testicles.
joe rogan
Brian, why are you looking?
He just checked your package too.
17 testicles.
brian redban
Seems like you might have a few more than the other guys.
joe rogan
He's got extra balls.
Yeah, it's amazing that they can stitch you up and put you back together again now, though.
Isn't that fucking cool?
Like, how many guys do you know that have...
I know guys that have had discs replaced, you know, artificial discs stuck in between and have their discs fused.
Yeah, Tito had that done.
Who else had that done?
Nate Marquardt?
No, Nate Quarry had that done.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of guys have had that done.
They blow out their discs, and they get their shit replaced, and they can go back and fight again.
It's fucking crazy.
That used to be a deal-breaker.
Your discs were jacked.
Forget about competitive athletics on the highest level.
There's no way, man.
It used to be ACL got jacked.
My friend Steve...
mayhem miller
Yeah, nothing, and you were done forever.
I was shocked when I said ACL, and they're like...
Nah, you just go and we put you back together.
I'm like, oh, awesome!
joe rogan
And it's more powerful than the original ACL. Yeah, it is!
mayhem miller
My ACL, man, it's stronger than it was.
I was like, what the hell?
And you do the workouts and whatever, and then it's stronger.
joe rogan
Did you use a cadaver?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you know they use an Achilles tendon.
That's what they use.
It's a big, fat fucking cable.
unidentified
Crazy.
joe rogan
It's bigger than what's naturally in there.
What's naturally in there sucks.
mayhem miller
Wow, you're saying that I have illegal me?
joe rogan
I got both mine are done.
This one was done with a patella tendon graft, though, which kind of sucks, where they...
They take a chunk out of your bone and a strip of meat where your tendon is and it's attached to your shin and then they open you up and then they screw it in place.
It takes a long ass time to heal from it.
It's much longer recuperation time because you've got a hole in your shin or a hole in your kneecap and a hole in your shin.
They cut it out so you're Your tendon's been all fucked up.
So it's a way more invasive thing.
This one, I had done, they did a cadaver, my right one.
And there's just like two little tiny holes, and they stitched them up, and that's it.
It was all fixed.
I mean, it's crazy.
They just get in there and screw this new joint in place.
That used to be, if you lived a thousand years ago, man, you were a cripple.
You were fucked.
You were that guy that would fall down if the wind blew too hard.
unidentified
Come on, dude.
mayhem miller
Black president.
We're in the future right now.
What?
joe rogan
The year 2000. I just think it's so cool that they could patch you up and put you back together again, you know?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
We live in the future.
I don't have a jetpack, but whatever.
joe rogan
Have you ever had your elbows done?
Nah.
Shoulders are supposed to be the worst.
unidentified
Nah.
joe rogan
Tear your shoulders.
That's supposed to be the biggest pain he has to recoup.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
Dancing with the devil is what I do every day.
joe rogan
You do.
You ever think that?
Like, man, I'm fucking staking my living on my physical flesh.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
Dancing with the devil is fun.
joe rogan
It is the funnest thing for you, right?
unidentified
Right.
mayhem miller
I can't help it.
It's so fun.
I like doing crazy stuff all the time.
joe rogan
Do you think you're going to have a long career?
Are you going to be doing this for a long time?
mayhem miller
I think, yeah.
I think I can do it.
I can do it for a long time, but that's my job.
I feel good.
joe rogan
You're definitely better now than you've ever been before.
mayhem miller
I know.
joe rogan
And what are you, 29 now?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
Oh yeah, I'm about to change it up.
joe rogan
You about to hit 29?
mayhem miller
About to hit 30. 30?
God damn.
joe rogan
That's like when you're an adult, dude.
mayhem miller
I know!
Bro, I've been feeling it.
I feel kind of happy about it.
I'm like, I'm going to be an adult.
joe rogan
We've got to get you over in the UFC, man.
All this Strikeforce nonsense.
If this Nick Diaz thing doesn't work, man, I hope the UFC picks you up.
We have to go get Joe Silva a massage somewhere.
Maybe you have to get him a fucking gift certificate for...
Somewhere cool.
Some wonderful restaurant.
Have a nice meal.
unidentified
I'll take them to the Olive Garden.
joe rogan
What are we doing with this Strikeforce nonsense?
You know, Mayhem, Miller, UFC, fighter.
mayhem miller
I got a good thing going with Strikeforce.
Let's see if Diaz will not be scared, homie.
We'll go from there.
joe rogan
When you watch the Anderson Silva-Chel Sonnen fight, now I know you train with Chel, right?
mayhem miller
I fought Chel.
joe rogan
Oh, why'd you find him?
mayhem miller
Yeah, but I trained with him too.
I fought him in like 19. Man, I was like 18 years old.
joe rogan
Really?
mayhem miller
Yeah, we fought.
19?
Yeah, he just kept taking me down.
We crashed through the cage.
Wow.
There's video of it somewhere.
Man, I was so young, man.
We were like kids, man.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It was crazy.
How old is he?
He's in his 30s, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
He's a little older than me.
joe rogan
When you watch this fight with Anderson Silva, so Anderson Silva, pound for pound, best fighter in the world, you know, UFC long-running middleweight champion, what did you think when you saw that fight?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
The Chael Sonnen fight?
Were you thinking, I mean, you know, you're a guy competing for the Strikeforce title at 185. Yeah.
When you see Anderson, you know, and you see that, you know, that Chael is handling him.
Yeah.
What did you think?
Does that, like, pump you up?
mayhem miller
I think that style-wise, yeah, definitely.
I mean, but, you know, like...
Of course.
My weight.
That was the most intense I've ever watched a fight, really.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
It must be, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, of course.
Because I'm in the little soap opera, kind of.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
mayhem miller
I'm watching this.
We're all the same weight.
joe rogan
You could be fighting that guy easy.
Yeah, I know.
Soon.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, easy.
Both guys, really, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Anything could happen.
mayhem miller
Of course.
joe rogan
How long is your contract at Strikeforce?
mayhem miller
I believe?
unidentified
I don't know.
mayhem miller
Do I have a fight left?
joe rogan
One fight left?
Yeah, I think so.
So that if you beat Nick Diaz, then do you get to fight Jacare for the title?
mayhem miller
I have a couple fights left.
joe rogan
Two fights?
mayhem miller
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
So, what are they talking about now?
If Nick Diaz doesn't want to fight, do you get to fight Jacare?
Do you have to fight Tim Kennedy?
Like, what do you do?
What's next?
mayhem miller
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
They don't know?
They're just trying to get the Nick Diaz fight.
mayhem miller
Well, I mean, that's the fight that everyone wants to see.
That's cool.
And, you know, I'm down.
You know, it's like, that's my job.
I'm down to do whatever, you know.
joe rogan
Does it get in the way when you're filming Bully Beatdown?
You know, does it get in the way with your training?
Like, do you have to, like, train, like, when you're filming that show, do you have to, like, make sure that you don't have any fights scheduled for a while it's going down?
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Like, you know, I don't want to run it concurrent with that training camp.
joe rogan
It would fuck it up hard, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah, it would fuck it up.
joe rogan
What kind of hours?
mayhem miller
But I took, I don't know, you know, for training...
The Bully Beatdown only takes two weeks.
joe rogan
What is that monkey on?
What did you do, Brian?
brian redban
It's a mayhem monkey.
joe rogan
Oh.
Wow.
mayhem miller
Did you just cut and paste that?
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's pretty cool.
mayhem miller
Yeah, it is pretty cool.
I don't know.
It only takes two weeks to do the Bully Beatdown.
joe rogan
For the whole season?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's easy.
That's amazing.
mayhem miller
I mean, it's more than two weeks because I have to go to do voiceover or whatever.
joe rogan
How many episodes do you guys do?
mayhem miller
Ten at a time, usually.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah, so it's a fun...
mayhem miller
It's like a fun little summer camp.
unidentified
Like, yay!
mayhem miller
Let's go film.
We'll be done.
It's going to be hilarious.
joe rogan
Well, it must have been way more fun coming into this season now that it's a big success.
Yeah.
Like, now, everybody wants you there and is happy to see you and all excited.
What?
It's all pumped up.
mayhem miller
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Like, people that network, people in the studio, like, you're on a successful show.
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's when it starts.
That's when it's fucking badass, right?
It is, yeah.
When it's successful.
mayhem miller
Exactly, yeah.
joe rogan
It feels good.
When things are rolling.
mayhem miller
That third season of it, I've never seen an audience so pumped up.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're fans.
mayhem miller
They're super fans.
At first, there was just people who were like, what?
What is this?
joe rogan
When we used to film news radio, there's a big difference between the first season of news radio, like the audience, and the third season.
When it gets into where the fans come to watch the show, that's when it becomes fun.
Yeah.
mayhem miller
It's a crazy experience.
joe rogan
Filming shows is so hard in the beginning because no one knows what the fuck is going on.
You're trying to establish a rhythm.
mayhem miller
It's like you know you're awesome, but nobody else knows you're awesome.
joe rogan
I wasn't going to say that.
What I was saying is it just takes a long time.
mayhem miller
I just feel like everybody who works on that show is awesome people.
You know what I mean?
They're all cool people.
I got more into doing the Bully Beatdown job by the fact that the people who work on it are just so awesome people.
They're just such awesome people.
So I'm like, oh, I really want to do a good job because these people right here are cool.
So let me try to do a really good job because you don't see them working, but they're working really hard.
joe rogan
Now, when all this shit went down with the CBS thing where you got in trouble and the big fight and the brawl on television...
Did they give you a hard time over that?
mayhem miller
What do you mean?
What are they gonna give me a hard time about it for them?
joe rogan
Nobody gave you a hard time.
mayhem miller
Who, bully beatdown people?
joe rogan
Yeah, like, no one says, like, you know, hey, you know, we can't get involved.
unidentified
I don't even think that that, yeah, I don't even think they were worth, what do you mean, get involved?
joe rogan
You know, you know what I'm saying?
mayhem miller
What are they going to do?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, what I'm saying is, like, when a controversy happens like this, like, they don't want you involved in anything that's, like, negative or anything that's, like, you know, like, they don't have, they don't sit down with you and say, hey, you can't be getting into brawls because, you know, you represent the show.
mayhem miller
Nobody said anything.
No.
joe rogan
No?
mayhem miller
I think they understood my side.
You know what I mean?
They understood how the whole thing went down.
joe rogan
Right, but in the news it wasn't clear cut.
There was a lot of people that were blaming you.
unidentified
Yeah, well.
brian redban
They're just jerks.
mayhem miller
They didn't get that mad about it.
Not bully beatdown.
That's like my fighting career.
They don't worry about my fighting career.
I don't feel like they...
What do you think?
That MTV is going to spank me for that?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
I don't understand.
brian redban
I'm probably happy about it.
joe rogan
I was wondering whether or not anyone was concerned.
unidentified
Bro.
joe rogan
Whether anyone said anything to you.
mayhem miller
No, what?
Nobody talks to me.
I'm just mayhem.
joe rogan
It's so funny.
You say it like it's ridiculous to ask.
Yeah, what do you mean it is?
You got in a bench-clearing brawl on national television.
brian redban
But he's a fighter, though.
unidentified
That shit happens.
joe rogan
I know.
That shit happens.
mayhem miller
That shit happened.
I can't help it.
brian redban
It's not VH1. I know.
mayhem miller
Yo, man, they have the...
Man, come on.
They have the Jersey Shore on.
joe rogan
I know.
They don't fuck around now.
People are just roofing each other.
Rolling on there.
mayhem miller
Yeah, it's banging.
joe rogan
When I saw that girl get punched in the face, did you see that online?
mayhem miller
Oh, yeah.
I saw it online, yeah.
joe rogan
I don't think they showed it on the show.
They blacked it off on the show.
unidentified
They didn't?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think they...
brian redban
Yeah, they blurred it or something.
mayhem miller
Why would they blur it?
joe rogan
We don't want people to see a girl get punched in the face and then say...
unidentified
But it was on.
joe rogan
Because they could show, look, we have a giant rating spike right as this girl gets punched in the face.
This is what we need.
We need more girls getting punched in the face.
mayhem miller
Oh, my bad.
brian redban
Did you see the girl that's on Dancing with the Stars, Sarah Palin's daughter or whatever, talking to the situation?
mayhem miller
Yeah, it was pretty fun.
brian redban
That was one of the most ridiculous...
mayhem miller
I saw it on The Soup.
The Soup is the best show because I get to see the normal everyday funny stuff that I would never see because I never watch a show like that.
Man, The Soup had it on there and it was...
Man, bring it up.
Just bring it up.
joe rogan
How strange is it that Dancing with the Stars has a vice presidential campaigner's daughter Who's like 18 or something like that now?
19 now?
Something really young?
How is that?
mayhem miller
She's a celebrity?
joe rogan
Because she was pregnant?
Because it was a story that she was in the news?
That's ridiculous.
How is that a celebrity?
That's so weird.
Dancing with the stars, that's what they're calling a star.
They're calling this young girl whose mom was running for vice president, who just happened to get pregnant and everybody knew about it, they're calling her a star.
That's so odd.
You'd have that as dancing with the stars.
unidentified
Why?
mayhem miller
She's a star.
unidentified
And the situation is...
mayhem miller
Check this out.
joe rogan
You look at me like I just hit you with some zen cone.
Like, what is the sound of one hand clapping?
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
No, she is.
But it's like the line is getting blurry.
Now it's like anybody who's in the news.
Dancing with the Stars is no longer entertainers.
It's no longer anybody that anything happened to where they got famous.
mayhem miller
They're stars.
It's like idols.
In Japan, they already have that.
unidentified
Idols.
joe rogan
And then you become like a show that they'll check in on.
They'll check in on you to see what the fuck's going on with you.
What are you doing today, crazy?
You know?
Like that Carrie Prejean chick?
Remember the chick who ran for, was it Miss USA? Yeah, yeah.
She's got a show.
She's always got something, man.
There's always something in the mix.
unidentified
Wait, you're talking about the girl from the Miss South Carolina pageant, right?
mayhem miller
Such as, like as...
joe rogan
No, no, that girl was hilarious.
But that was just a brain fart.
That poor chick.
She just got caught in the headlights.
mayhem miller
Whatever, that was adorable.
joe rogan
Was it adorable?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You liked it?
mayhem miller
I like my girls to be all scatterbrained.
joe rogan
When you see a girl gingerly bambi like that, does that get you excited?
You're like, look at this girl.
I just drag her into the mayhem void.
mayhem miller
Oh, man.
You think I club chicks over the head and drag them to my lair?
joe rogan
No, just with your personality, bro.
Just with your personality.
You can just overtake them.
mayhem miller
You think so?
Hey, let's run over here.
joe rogan
You see a girl saying like, as, and you can just dominate her with your will.
mayhem miller
So you're trying to tell me to have sex with me.
joe rogan
With your mind.
She's not retarded.
She's just easily led.
mayhem miller
So mentally handicapped supermodels is what I'm looking for?
joe rogan
Maybe.
Sometimes it's not the worst thing.
That's all I'm saying.
Not totally mentally handicapped.
There's a lot of people that are really happy just hanging out with their dog.
Think about it that way.
There's a lot of people that are super smart and super healthy and they're just hanging out with their dog.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But a lot of people get plenty of companionship just from their dog.
So if that's the case and they're super happy for the rest of their life, you could date someone who's really dumb.
As long as they're nice to you, who cares?
They're cute.
Just like having a dog.
brian redban
Somebody like this?
joe rogan
What are you doing, Brian?
brian redban
That's that video that we were talking about.
unidentified
Excuse me, miss.
Have you ever had a situation with the official situation?
Excuse me, Sitch?
Oh snap, B. Palin.
You mean to tell me that girls actually fought for that line?
Come on, I mean, if those words don't work, I got the situation right there.
I hope you're as committed to safe sex as you are those abs.
I know you're all about that abstinence thing, you know, but, I mean, come on, B Palin, are you serious?
Like, you're not gonna hook up with, like, before you married?
For real.
For real.
brian redban
For real, for real, for real.
unidentified
All right.
Well, you know what?
I mean, just in case you do get into a situation, I want to make sure that you are situated.
Because if you do get into a situation with your situation, you may end up with a situation.
And you may not like that situation.
Trust me, though.
I'm not getting myself into another situation.
I know how hard it is to be a teen parent.
You know what?
I totally respect that.
And I totally respect abstinence.
I mean, it actually has the word abstinence.
I mean, come on.
I'm the situation.
I love that.
Very funny.
But I'm worried about you and you practicing safe sex.
I actually practice a whole lot.
I mean, a whole lot.
Talk about the safe part of that.
Ah, the safe part?
We got the safe part down pat.
One pile.
Magnums.
You know what?
I might be able to spare one.
I mean, you know, I'll give you one.
It's fine.
I avoid situations.
Alright, good, good.
If you're good at avoiding situations, and you're situated, and I'm situated, situations under control.
Well, I'm glad that we agree on one thing.
Pause before you play.
Pause before you play, that's probably the most important.
You know what?
joe rogan
What is this?
A fucking high school video?
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
Who made this?
unidentified
No, it is.
joe rogan
What was this on?
Hold on, what was this on?
unidentified
The...
brian redban
The Candies Foundation?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
What was it on, television?
What was it, a commercial?
What was it?
brian redban
I don't know.
mayhem miller
It was a PSA, bro.
brian redban
From...
The situation...
Yeah, it's a PSA of some sort.
joe rogan
Dude, that shit was designed by the terrorists.
That's designed to lower our standards and weaken our wills, and they're gonna fucking cross our borders and just start raping and pillaging.
Totally.
Motherfucker, that was dumb.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Holy shit, that was scary dumb.
unidentified
What's the situation?
The situation ain't situating.
joe rogan
It's got abs in it.
unidentified
The situation situation.
brian redban
Whoa.
mayhem miller
Whoever wrote that, they're just trying not to get...
joe rogan
You should tie a bicycle chain around your neck and jump into the ocean.
mayhem miller
They're trying to give the kids a bicycle chain?
joe rogan
Yeah.
mayhem miller
So that means they can, like, pedal out of it, baby.
joe rogan
So it can slowly drown.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
I want them to slowly drown.
A bicycle chain?
I can swim out.
I'm dropping you in the middle of the ocean.
mayhem miller
Oh, in the middle of the ocean.
joe rogan
I just want, you know, you got to get that chain off first.
unidentified
Yeah.
mayhem miller
Fuck, I'm sick of that.
joe rogan
What I'm saying is, fuck you, bitch.
Goddamn, man.
Jesus.
Stop knocking the microphone, man.
brian redban
You son of a bitch.
joe rogan
Fuck, aren't you hearing that?
mayhem miller
No, I don't even hear it.
Does it hurt your ears?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, it hurts everybody who's listening, too.
That shit's loud as fuck.
unidentified
I'm so sorry.
brian redban
Okay, here's the situation.
The situation's parents out town.
mayhem miller
They just don't want people to, like, you know, bang each other.
joe rogan
Well, what is that about?
She's pretending she doesn't take dick anymore.
How dare you?
mayhem miller
Right.
joe rogan
How dare you?
unidentified
He's acting like he doesn't have sex without a condom or whatever.
mayhem miller
Raw dog chicks?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's pulling out condoms.
brian redban
That dude's had sex in a tanning bed.
He's probably not wearing a condom.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Did he have sex in a tanning bed on the show?
brian redban
Probably.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's gotta be bad for your eyes.
brian redban
Have you ever masturbated on a tanning bed?
unidentified
No, I have not.
brian redban
I sometimes masturbate about the chick that checks me in at the tanning bed because she's so fucking hot and she has huge tits and she's...
Oh wait, never mind.
joe rogan
Well, they say they have a problem with women doing that in tanning beds.
I've heard that.
The women like to masturbate in tanning beds.
mayhem miller
Who wouldn't want to masturbate in a hot room?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Well...
mayhem miller
We're in a little bubble.
You got nothing to do with it.
joe rogan
Maybe an Eskimo.
brian redban
The worst is if you spray, though, and then it's early on in the tanning, it starts to sizzle.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It cooks.
mayhem miller
You're cooking jizz omelets on your stomach?
That's disgusting, though.
brian redban
It sounds like it's a little 7-Up can by your ear.
joe rogan
That's the low point of this podcast, folks.
Jizz omelets Cooking jizz omelets Toastity go too far period blood How many times you walked out of the house with dry loads on your stomach?
mayhem miller
Man, never.
joe rogan
Never?
unidentified
I felt my belly like I missed a spot or something like that.
brian redban
I feel a little crunchiness.
joe rogan
Jim Norton had a load in his belly button from the night before, and we were on Opie and Anthony, and he was telling everybody, he's like, oh, I'm smelling it.
Hold on a second.
And he dips his finger in it, and he gave it to one of the interns.
I forget who it was, and he made smell it.
And he almost threw up.
And then he goes, you want to try it?
I go, alright.
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
So he sticks the smell.
I mean, basically, I smelled it.
So that dead, horrible smell.
Why would you say yes?
Because I was there.
I was on the radio.
Fuck it, I'll smell it.
So you sniffed Jim Norton's belly load?
Some of his belly load came into my nose in the form of fumes.
Basically.
brian redban
I would say no to that, wouldn't you?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I should have said no.
unidentified
Well, on the radio...
mayhem miller
I'm just trying to think of Joe...
brian redban
Sure, I'll do it.
unidentified
Yeah, but it's the...
joe rogan
Listen, the radio...
When you're on the radio, it's just like on this podcast.
Everybody's at 10. You're just trying to have fun.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Trying to do what's the funniest thing.
The funniest thing is the guy says, you want to smell my stinky load?
You go, okay.
Fuck it.
Come on.
We're on the radio, you know?
I'll smell your load if you really want me to.
You know, and he was kind of shocked, as I was, that I was smelling it.
mayhem miller
Can I go to the bathroom?
joe rogan
Yeah, go ahead, man.
mayhem miller
I'm just going to jerk off and put a load in my belly button.
joe rogan
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
There's something about the shape of the belly button that makes the loads ferment and fester.
And again...
brian redban
Are you going right now?
mayhem miller
Are you really moving?
joe rogan
No, he doesn't really have to go to the bathroom.
unidentified
He's kidding.
mayhem miller
I don't have to go to the bathroom.
Thanks, dude.
joe rogan
Brian didn't see it.
He didn't see the joke.
mayhem miller
Man, good job.
You didn't even get my jokes?
joe rogan
It was an awesome joke, Brian.
You just totally missed it.
brian redban
I was doing something.
I can't remember what I was doing.
joe rogan
We've got it down to a science of how much pot you should smoke before one of these things.
brian redban
No, I was finding another video for you when you guys were talking.
joe rogan
The stars don't align.
What was another video?
Another PSA with the situation?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Because I don't know if I can fucking take it.
mayhem miller
Bro, I felt like you wasted moments of my life.
But at the same time, I think it's a step in the right direction that abstinence people have gone, well, people aren't going to stop fucking, so try to wear a condom.
joe rogan
Is that what they're doing?
mayhem miller
Yeah, because before people...
joe rogan
But the abstinence people are all religious.
It's all religious people.
No one who has a brain is talking about abstinence.
That's just against human nature.
brian redban
You can't stop people from touching each other.
If that's true, why would they even think for a second that the situation would best represent that PSA? I think because they think of him...
mayhem miller
He's the guy who bangs a lot.
I mean, whatever.
They're trying to paint it in a nice way.
joe rogan
I think they just think he's famous.
I think it's that simple.
And he'll do that thing.
Yeah, as simple as he's famous, he's in the news, if they can get him to do it, people will pay attention.
mayhem miller
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
But that shit is so bad.
That whole, the situation, you know, if you get in a situation, and her talking, I mean, it's so dumb.
unidentified
Joey Diaz.
joe rogan
This better not be who I think it is.
unidentified
Call from January.
joe rogan
I think it is Joey Diaz.
How dare he?
I'm not answering shit.
mayhem miller
So Joey Diaz, we're not fucking picking up the phone, bro.
joe rogan
I need to remember to unplug this phone.
Most people don't call me when we're doing a podcast, but occasionally someone gets confused.
brian redban
Robot off.
joe rogan
I know, I need one of those, right?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
I just need to unplug it.
The problem is the bass is not in this room.
I'm a disorganized motherfucker, Brian.
mayhem miller
I wish I had an Ewok.
joe rogan
I've made great strides, though, in creating this room.
We actually have a place where we do the podcast every week, and it feels like this is where it all comes from.
It feels like it's right.
It's a desk.
It's like we've got a soundboard.
It's all professional equipment and shit.
A friend of mine just started watching the podcast, and he started with episode one, and he's like, holy shit, dude, this is the craziest thing ever.
You guys were just sitting in front of a laptop, and you had snowflakes coming down.
brian redban
That's right.
We did all kinds of stupid shit.
It was like Christmas Eve or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, was it?
Something like that.
mayhem miller
Why don't I get any snowflakes?
joe rogan
We lost that technology.
Listen, it's hard enough to keep the image on the air.
With these Ustream feeds, a lot of times it cuts out and a lot of times our internet will shut off and it cuts out.
It's a pain in the ass, man.
You just want to make sure that you just...
The most important thing is the audio.
mayhem miller
Where do you get a tube that goes right to the internet?
joe rogan
I'm not even sure what the internet is.
mayhem miller
Me neither.
joe rogan
Do you know what it is?
Like, if someone said, hey, you gotta go fix the internet.
It's broke.
mayhem miller
I know, like, where would you walk to with your tool belt?
Like, you're like, is it the end of this hallway?
joe rogan
I mean, it would be broke forever if it was just left out.
mayhem miller
Yeah, we're stupid.
unidentified
Well, you'd be like, where the fuck is it?
joe rogan
And how do you fix it?
You'd have to relearn the whole thing.
mayhem miller
I figure it's like in Tron.
brian redban
What's that?
What about Tron?
joe rogan
It's going to be very strange when everything's wireless, which is going to be inevitable.
mayhem miller
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
When there's no difference between being plugged in and not being plugged in, which is probably inevitable.
mayhem miller
What are you talking about?
It's like that now.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not totally like that now.
There's a lot of places that don't have Wi-Fi.
There's a lot of people that have their computer plugged in.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
This computer's plugged in.
But eventually, that's not even an option.
Why would you get a plug?
Are you stupid?
You just turn it on.
It just picks it up.
It's everywhere.
That's the next step.
It's fucking fascinating shit, man.
Fascinating shit where all these computers and technology...
brian redban
It sucks when the shit starts going wrong, though.
Like, my shit's just altogether going wrong at the same time, and I feel like I'm just in a disaster right now.
unidentified
Wait, have you had superpowers?
brian redban
My technology, my computers, everything...
joe rogan
Yeah, you've had a bunch of problems, and one of them that you shouldn't talk about too much because of the nature of the problem.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
You know, that one with the software issue?
brian redban
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
No, no, like...
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Follow back.
mayhem miller
You need a flashlight?
brian redban
No, no, no.
Like, all my shit...
mayhem miller
Oh, wait.
What were you talking about again?
joe rogan
Put it in your eyeball.
What?
brian redban
No, all my shit's, like, breaking at the same time.
Like, all my...
Like, my dog decided to eat my laptop cable, and my battery decided to die.
My hard drive's dying.
And then, like, my TV, my HDMI cable shorted out.
My washing machine broke the other day.
It's like, everything is breaking right now.
joe rogan
It's the beginning of the apocalypse break.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
It's a little mini apocalypse in your house.
mayhem miller
It's my own little technology 2012. I just thought you had, like, superpowers or something to magnetize the broken cables.
I thought, what are you doing?
brian redban
I'm putting it inside out.
mayhem miller
That looks fucking disgusting!
joe rogan
Brian, don't do that.
Bro!
This is the flashlight that our guests have to touch.
mayhem miller
Man, wait, you're...
joe rogan
And you're just abusing it and manhandling it.
unidentified
And I feel it's really dirty when you take it out of the sleeve to clean it.
mayhem miller
Like, it looks really disgusting.
joe rogan
Is that the butthole one?
brian redban
This is either one that you actually used, remember?
joe rogan
Ew, no, it's not.
mayhem miller
Man, that looks like a real-life butthole, I have to say, man.
I've seen a butthole or two in my time.
joe rogan
They make an actual mold of a real-life butthole.
Well, you know, if you weren't into doing gay porn, but they offered you a million bucks for a foam mold of your butthole, they said, listen, we're going to give you a stone-cold, solid $1 million.
All we need, we're just going to throw some plaster of Paris over your butthole and make a little impression.
mayhem miller
Of me?
joe rogan
Yeah, and sell your rubber butthole.
Would you do it?
unidentified
I would do it for like $16. $16. dollars that's That's so random.
joe rogan
Brian, for publicly, for a mold of your butthole, this would be like an argument that I'd have to have with my manager.
They'd be like, don't do it.
I don't think you should do it.
mayhem miller
Oh, I gotta put my name on it?
joe rogan
It's a million dollars.
brian redban
You wouldn't do it?
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta sell your butthole.
unidentified
Are you gonna do it?
joe rogan
Well, I'm putting it out there right now.
I'm putting it out there to all the would-be butthole toy manufacturers.
mayhem miller
You think people are going to pay a million dollars for your butthole?
joe rogan
No, I don't.
I don't think they are.
mayhem miller
Your ass is a little over bright.
I don't think you can get a million dollars.
joe rogan
I think you're right, but that's my price.
unidentified
A million?
joe rogan
One million, yeah.
I won't do it for any less.
mayhem miller
You're pricing yourself out, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I'm not.
But I'm not.
unidentified
If some crazy old gay freak with a lot of cash steps up.
mayhem miller
Let's talk you down.
No, what do you mean?
It's mass-produced.
How much for mass-produced?
joe rogan
It has to be $1 million.
unidentified
Simple.
joe rogan
It's very simple.
mayhem miller
You wouldn't go down.
joe rogan
You could get a rubber mold of my butthole and it will cost you $1 million.
I think I'm quite clear.
brian redban
I would do it for $10,000, Chris.
joe rogan
I don't need to negotiate.
Either way, I'm happy.
I'm happy if it's yes, I'm happy if it's no.
I don't care.
mayhem miller
I'm glad you have your price, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
If it's no, I keep some self-esteem points.
I feel good about myself.
If it's yes, holy shit, I just made a million bucks to lie down with some plaster of Paris over my butthole.
mayhem miller
All right, let's take it the other way then.
joe rogan
Okay, let's do this.
mayhem miller
All right.
At what point do you sell yourself so bad, you know what I mean, that you can't recover?
All right, how much money would it take you to, like, suck a horse?
You know, you could go that far.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can go too far.
unidentified
Ha ha!
joe rogan
You could certainly go too far.
But could you?
Okay, how long is it taking to suck this horse's dick?
What if you only had to suck a horse's dick until he came?
Well, what if horses come really quick?
You know, I don't know.
I bet they're super sensitive.
brian redban
Are you talking pre-cum or full-cum?
mayhem miller
I'm talking a full load.
joe rogan
A load.
You don't have to swallow it because you can't.
unidentified
A pre-cum's probably a 12-gallon.
joe rogan
Someone might be able to get fucked by a horse, but I don't see anybody swallowing a horse load.
You will fucking drown.
And that's the worst way to call the paramedics, when you're drowning by horse load.
And that shit would happen, man.
brian redban
Remember that old man show guy that would chug the beers?
Imagine him just trying to keep up with a horse's load.
joe rogan
Well, it's like, of course you wouldn't want to do that.
Of course that would be a terrible thing to do.
But what if it was, and this is the ultimate hack premise, but what if it was for $100 million or something crazy like that?
Or a billion?
mayhem miller
I know, dude.
joe rogan
Suck a horse's dick for an hour for a billion dollars.
brian redban
For an hour?
mayhem miller
My bad.
I should have never said that, man.
joe rogan
Well, you don't have to actually suck it for a whole hour because it probably won't take that long.
But you're committed to attempt it for one hour.
brian redban
Does this have to be a horse or can it be a pony?
unidentified
Wow.
mayhem miller
I was thinking.
I was thinking like...
joe rogan
That's how juvenile I am.
mayhem miller
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
I'm so juvenile, that was the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life.
I paused for a second and pictured you blowing a pony.
That's all I could think of.
The pony was brown and white, too.
It was really cute.
brian redban
Wow.
mayhem miller
Mine had red ribbons in it, too.
unidentified
Red ribbons!
mayhem miller
Yeah, I was like, why does it have red ribbons in it, too?
joe rogan
What is it about little kids that love ponies and horsies and shit like that?
What is it, man?
mayhem miller
No idea.
joe rogan
Having little kids, man.
My daughter loves horsies.
She loves horsies and ponies.
mayhem miller
It's a giant nice animal that you can ride.
joe rogan
But she doesn't know you can ride it.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
She doesn't know.
She's two.
She doesn't know you can ride a fucking horse.
That's ridiculous to her.
mayhem miller
She must have seen somebody at a fair.
brian redban
She's seen Barbie.
mayhem miller
Yeah, Barbie.
joe rogan
Maybe she's seen it on movies.
mayhem miller
She's seen it in movies.
joe rogan
Animated movies.
mayhem miller
For no reason.
joe rogan
But what is it about girls and horses?
Do you think it's something sexual?
brian redban
Absolutely.
I've talked to a few people before and they all say it feels fucking great.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's constantly rubbing their pussy.
If you look at where their sexual organs are, it's like they're constantly titty-fucking that horse.
brian redban
Why do you think?
I live in an equestrian district and every time I go to Starbucks, there's at least four of them in there.
They are always plain Jane girls because they can't I agree.
unidentified
They're like, what?
brian redban
That's so weird.
mayhem miller
Come on.
You believe that?
joe rogan
All the women that ride horses around me, all the women in my neighborhood who ride horses, look like they're getting away with something.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
They're smirking, and they're looking you in the eyes.
joe rogan
They're looking you in the eye while they're nutting in their jeans.
unidentified
While there's this huge brown muscle underneath them, just fucking tightening up.
joe rogan
And it's moving, clip-clop, clip-clop, clip-clop.
mayhem miller
Watching iPhone porn as they're riding the...
joe rogan
No, holding the hair.
The standard excuse for why a woman lost her hymen.
The number one excuse was, oh, she lost at horseback riding.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Did you know that?
mayhem miller
Now I do.
joe rogan
Because, you know, it was always, hey, you know, they check to make sure a version.
What's going on, Hooker?
You been getting dick stuffed in there?
No, I ride horses.
Like, oh, okay, that's cool.
unidentified
Wow.
mayhem miller
So it was legit to bust your hymen?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Legit to bust your hymen and bust a nut.
I bet they do.
brian redban
Cowboys used to carve out their saddles and make little holes when they ride.
joe rogan
Really?
Did they?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just stick their dick in there?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
joe rogan
You just made that up.
unidentified
Mm-mm.
joe rogan
You fuck.
brian redban
That's what I would do.
joe rogan
Is that what you would do?
brian redban
Fuck yeah.
I would think of something like that.
Make a flashlight somehow to attach to my saddle.
joe rogan
So you jerk off when you're driving?
mayhem miller
On a long road trip, you jerk off?
brian redban
Just jerk off the whole time.
joe rogan
I've jerked off once in a car that I can remember.
I don't think I did it again.
I definitely did it once, though.
And I was working.
And I remember very clearly after I came thinking, I'm definitely going to do this again.
I'm such an idiot.
Like being disappointed with myself.
Like I know I'll be doing it.
It's not like I just jerked off all over myself while I'm driving once.
Like this is going to be a regular occurrence.
So I'm thinking this is eventually going to become embarrassing for me.
unidentified
Ha ha ha.
mayhem miller
But then what happened, man?
joe rogan
I just never did it again.
I don't know what happened.
mayhem miller
You just lost your will.
joe rogan
I guess maybe I just rationalized.
I looked at, like, am I really that horny?
Am I really that horny, or am I just looking to be distracted while I'm driving?
Like, what am I doing?
This is stupid.
This is poor time management.
brian redban
Plus, it's hard to look at your GPS and imagine it's a girl.
mayhem miller
No.
joe rogan
Didn't you have a chick that got jealous?
brian redban
Yeah, my GPS wants your voice.
joe rogan
Listen to this.
He had a fucking GPS thing where it was an English woman's voice.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And his girl got jealous.
brian redban
She kept on making me change it to guys.
And then I would download the British chick.
It was a TomTom.
And I would download the British chick.
And she'd be like, what the fuck is this chick?
Just turn it to the regular guy.
What do you think?
She's hot?
unidentified
What is...
Whoa!
That is so fucking crazy!
joe rogan
What kind of a hell were you living in?
brian redban
It was when GPS first came out.
joe rogan
Was it a fiery, lava-filled, hot sticker up the ass hell?
Tell me about that thing.
brian redban
It was just when GPS came out and for some reason it annoyed her.
She didn't like that it was a girl talking.
joe rogan
But she said, do you think she sounds hot?
brian redban
She asked why I just didn't have a normal guy voice.
She thought it was odd that I always made it a sexy Asian girl speaking English voice or whatever.
joe rogan
What?
brian redban
They have that option?
They have British woman, UK, Asian, American, Asian, Asian.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Did you ever get to the point where you were hearing that, where you were going, I have to get out of this relationship?
brian redban
No, it came out to the point where they had it where you could make your own recordings of it.
She did it?!
mayhem miller
What the hell is wrong with you, man?
brian redban
You did it?
unidentified
Why would I want to hear myself talk to me?
I want to hear the chick say, I'm like, thanks, lady.
Or I want to be like, yeah, thanks, baby.
brian redban
I did it, so it's like, turn the fuck up here.
I just cussed and stuff.
joe rogan
And she was happy with that?
unidentified
Yeah, well, we broke up after, I think, around that time.
mayhem miller
Bro, I would have broke up with her.
Oh, my God.
I would have kicked her out of the car.
Like, right there.
Wyatt was still moving.
joe rogan
Have you ever kicked a girl out of your car?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
unidentified
What the hell are you talking about?
The way he said it.
joe rogan
Wait, you said yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, I kicked you out.
joe rogan
You were saying yeah, but what you were really saying was, of course, stupid.
mayhem miller
Yeah, I was saying of course, stupid.
That was my next thing, of course.
joe rogan
Of course.
I've only kicked out one girl in my car ever.
mayhem miller
I think it was like high school time, though.
I was like, dude.
Get out of my car.
It was like little kids.
joe rogan
I have one crazy bitch that I dated when I was 21. Just loved to fight.
Just loved to, for whatever reason, just start picking fights.
mayhem miller
When you date people, you figure out some people are out of their minds.
joe rogan
This one was nuts.
She used to like to fight, and then she used to like me to go, Hey, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Stop picking on me.
Stop yelling at me.
Just fucking chill out.
You're acting like an asshole.
I'm not doing anything to you.
And then she would go super submissive.
It was really crazy.
And then want to fuck.
That was like her constant strategy.
So after a while, it was like she wanted to be handled.
So she wanted to rise up.
She wanted to say shitty things.
And it would build.
She would start with like a little insult.
And then it would go on.
And I would ignore it.
I would try to just like, please, let's not fight.
And then we get to the point where she would say something really stupid.
And I have to go, hey, what the fuck are you doing?
Do we like each other?
Why are you talking to me like this?
Like, what's going on here?
This is dumb, dumb shit.
Like, you're not considering my feelings.
And then she would go, I'm sorry.
You're right.
I'm sorry.
Fuck, I'm an asshole.
I'm a loser.
I don't know what's wrong with me.
And then she would want to crash.
And she would want me to fuck her.
brian redban
What is that?
joe rogan
Is that life smaller or what?
I date the same kind of girls.
It's a sort of like a distraction, sexual reward game.
unidentified
You're just bored.
mayhem miller
You want to fight.
joe rogan
Well, it's just they also have that pattern.
It's usually every relationship they've had has had that pattern.
They have drama with their friends.
They usually have drama at home.
It's like some people become addicted to drama.
And the big thrill you get from sort of overcoming drama.
You know, how many dudes do you know that just like, you have to fucking get in a yelling match with this asshole before you can be friends with him?
I mean, how many guys have you ever met?
I mean, in our circles and circles of guys who train and MMA guys and high testosterone individuals, there's always this one guy where you have to go, bro, what the fuck?
And then he's okay.
mayhem miller
Are you trying to say that about me right now, man?
unidentified
No.
mayhem miller
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding, bro.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
That sounds like something I would say.
mayhem miller
Oh, coconut juice.
joe rogan
It's the shit, isn't it?
I got a fucking complaint from a young man on Twitter.
mayhem miller
What?
joe rogan
Saying that the coconut juice, I was steering him wrong.
That coconut juice tastes like shit.
mayhem miller
Yeah, well, he's done.
joe rogan
You gotta get the right stuff.
brian redban
You gotta get the right stuff.
unidentified
And, you know, I bet there's some people out there like, man, I like Mountain Dew gold.
Joe Rogan made me smoke, you know, drink this coconut juice.
joe rogan
Well, I like Mountain Dew gold.
I don't have a problem with Mountain Dew gold.
brian redban
No, you know what I'm saying, though?
They're just like, whatever.
They drink Mountain Dew every day, and that's it.
You know, think guys like that.
Like, the same people that make fun of me for enjoying grape vodka.
unidentified
What do you like?
Flavored vodka, you faggot?
brian redban
You need to drink Budweiser.
Sorry for dropping the F-bomb again.
joe rogan
You can say whatever you want.
brian redban
Bro, I'm allowed to do that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't care.
mayhem miller
I only retired it because I saw that.
I know.
I stopped doing it too.
joe rogan
Really?
mayhem miller
Yeah, and I want to say it sometimes because I'm used to it because to me it means something way different.
I saw that show, Louie, and I saw the guy and I was like, oh, I get it now.
I see why gay people hate that word.
joe rogan
It's not correct.
unidentified
But it's PH. No, but to them, it's like real hateful heart.
mayhem miller
And I'm like, oh, to me, it's like what we say when we're little kids.
You're just like, whatever, fag.
You don't mean it at anything.
I've been saying it for so long.
joe rogan
That was a great scene, but what I was saying is not correct is when he was saying that the origin of the word faggot meant that you would throw them on the fire just like faggots of wood.
Oh, that's not true?
No, that's not the correct, what they call etymology.
mayhem miller
It's not etymology?
joe rogan
No, the correct one is that A faggot, like a bundle of wood, was a burden and it was difficult to carry.
So a woman became a faggot.
So women were faggots because they were a bundle of wood that was difficult to carry.
They became burdensome.
And then when they would talk about guys who were gay, they would call them faggots too because they were women.
They would just, look at him, he's a faggot.
He's a burdensome woman.
That's what the correct...
brian redban
So me calling Jason's mom a faggot was actually proper terminology.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know if his mom was a burdensome woman.
She might have been a joy to be around and a wonderful companion.
brian redban
Like a bundle of wood.
joe rogan
Could have been.
I don't know.
But either way, yeah.
The problem is that it has a different definition for gay people than it does for us.
mayhem miller
Yeah, that's the only reason that I don't want to say it.
Oh, my bad.
joe rogan
How long ago did you retire?
mayhem miller
I don't know.
A while ago.
joe rogan
That's really...
mayhem miller
Whenever I saw that...
It took a while.
I saw it and I thought about it.
And I'm like, yeah, that is like hate, like hateful word, like such a to them.
And to me, it's not that way.
And I understand why people say it.
Cause when you want to like disrespect a dude as much as you can, then you just say that, but you're not thinking you're gay.
Like it just has a nice ring to it.
It just sounds like mean.
That's why people, you know, say it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It sounds very dismissive.
mayhem miller
I never said it to a gay dude ever.
I don't think.
joe rogan
No, I never have either.
Yeah.
unidentified
I know.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Lucy can't have that great joke about it unless he was being a faggot.
mayhem miller
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He said something about, all the people from Phoenix are Phoenicians.
Shut up, you faggot.
You know, that's...
brian redban
Hey, you're not about to say it anymore.
joe rogan
I'm just quoting Louis C.K. Oh, dude!
brian redban
You're just going to start quoting people all the time.
joe rogan
That's what I'm going to do.
This is how I'm going to keep saying faggot by bringing up that I'm not saying it.
unidentified
Until the end of time.
The loophole.
joe rogan
Well, you know, there's always another time.
Look, I'm not going to ignore topics.
We're not going to pretend it's not real, ladies and gentlemen.
Okay?
All I'm saying is I'm not going to use it as a slander, as a slur.
It's not a slander.
brian redban
You're going to be mad at somebody.
unidentified
You're going to be like, if I didn't retire that word faggot right now, it would be a proper time to use that answer.
joe rogan
I wonder if I can still say faggotry, because that's not even the same word.
It's like saying niggardly.
mayhem miller
Yeah, that's the trick.
joe rogan
That's a tricky word.
That means stingy.
It has no origins.
It's not related to the word.
mayhem miller
At all.
joe rogan
At all.
mayhem miller
I know, it's so weird.
joe rogan
The word nigger.
mayhem miller
It's close.
joe rogan
I said it.
I said it and I don't give a fuck.
I'm not calling anybody it.
We're just admitting that it's real.
brian redban
So you're more scared of gay people than black people?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
I'm not saying...
I'm not calling anyone it.
I'm just saying that it's a word.
And sometimes when you're talking about the N-word, it's more offensive to me to say the N-word.
brian redban
Oh, Joe.
Here we go again.
joe rogan
You silly bitch.
We're going again with you.
You fucking terrible person.
Did you call someone's mom a faggot?
brian redban
Oh, I did not.
mayhem miller
You called my mom a faggot, bro.
And I fucking forgot about it.
joe rogan
Jason T-Ball, he called his mom a faggot.
mayhem miller
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, Brian did.
He just didn't give a fuck.
Look at him.
He's reckless.
Whatever.
Brian's doing stand-up.
unidentified
Why?
mayhem miller
Does she have like a short haircut or something?
brian redban
No, she's a lesbian.
joe rogan
She's a real lesbian.
mayhem miller
I know.
joe rogan
She's a real live lesbian and he's running around calling her a faggot.
mayhem miller
Why?
joe rogan
Because that's Brian.
That's how he rolls.
He doesn't give a fuck.
brian redban
And the reason I called your mom a faggot...
mayhem miller
Yeah, why'd you call my mom a faggot?
brian redban
Because the fella was tight like an asshole.
unidentified
What?
mayhem miller
What?
brian redban
She was tight like an asshole.
joe rogan
Brian.
mayhem miller
Man.
joe rogan
This is the worst showstopper you've ever thrown.
unidentified
I know, dude.
joe rogan
Why would you say that to Mayhem's mom?
mayhem miller
Dude, my mom downloads the podcast, bro.
joe rogan
Does your mom download the podcast?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, bro.
mayhem miller
Why did you just do that, man?
joe rogan
What did you just do?
You're going to have to go back and edit this.
This is going to be the lost tapes.
Listen, somebody tweet me the time here.
mayhem miller
My mom wakes up in like four hours, bro.
joe rogan
Bro, how dare you, man?
That is not cool at all, dude.
brian redban
Oh, whatever.
mayhem miller
And she's very sensitive about that.
brian redban
I'm sure that's a good thing.
unidentified
If she was sitting around, at least she didn't say I was sloppy, you know?
brian redban
I'm sure she probably is happy about that.
joe rogan
But you're insinuating you fucked his mom.
brian redban
I did not.
mayhem miller
You didn't fuck my mom?
unidentified
She said she came out here.
mayhem miller
She said you guys talked on Twitter.
unidentified
Huh?
mayhem miller
My mom said you guys talked on Twitter.
joe rogan
How crazy is that LeBron James story where one of his teammates was fucking his mom?
brian redban
Yeah, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Do you know that story?
mayhem miller
Wow.
joe rogan
One of LeBron's teammates was fucking his mom.
mayhem miller
Makes sense.
joe rogan
That's gotta be rough, though.
mayhem miller
Wait, and what team?
The Miami Heat?
joe rogan
Yeah, whatever.
No, the other one.
Oh, yeah, in Cleveland.
mayhem miller
There's not a lot to do up there in Cleveland.
joe rogan
So they just fuck people's moms?
unidentified
Yeah.
Fuck people's moms.
joe rogan
This has got to be a lot of things ahead of fuck this guy's mom.
brian redban
I'm from Columbus.
It's true.
We just fuck each other's moms.
joe rogan
Dude, how happy are you when it gets to be like November, December, like right now?
unidentified
I'm not kidding.
brian redban
Really?
mayhem miller
My mom is from Columbus, Ohio.
unidentified
That makes sense.
brian redban
That's where I met her.
unidentified
Perfect.
joe rogan
That's where I met her.
You're not letting this go.
This is horrible.
So creepy.
mayhem miller
Man, my mom's gonna be pissed watching this podcast.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Mrs. Mayhem, I'm sorry.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
For my friend Brian, most of what he says is just for comedic value.
He doesn't really mean that.
mayhem miller
Dude, this whole thing is, you can't take anything serious on this podcast.
joe rogan
Please don't.
brian redban
I would like to kiss her in the Buckeye.
mayhem miller
It's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Please don't take anything I say ever, anywhere, seriously.
mayhem miller
I know.
That's the problem I have.
joe rogan
It's not worth it.
It's not worth it.
It's too much of an investment.
mayhem miller
Right?
joe rogan
You know, I wouldn't take anything I said seriously.
mayhem miller
We're just saying silly things because it's fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's what the beauty of podcasts are, folks.
You're getting a little window into a retarded conversation that Mayhem and I would have probably had with or without you.
unidentified
Yeah!
mayhem miller
Probably, right?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
That's one of the coolest things about doing this podcast, is basically hanging out with your friends, except other people all throughout the world.
And I'll tell you, man, I've gotten all these fucking emails, and I've met all these people that tell me how they don't have anybody like these people.
They don't know anyone like you, or like a lot of the guests that I have.
They don't know these fucking people.
They don't have anyone like this in their life.
They don't have friends that talk to us.
They don't have people that talk to us.
But by listening to this thing three, four hours every week or so, You get all these weird different people become a part of your daily conversations.
This is like super hyper-accelerating shit for some people.
From people that live in shitty places where they have poor conversations with people and they long for someone who can bring challenging ideas to their head.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
Radio has always been a format of smart people, I think.
Or people who you want to...
joe rogan
Yeah, communication.
Higher levels of communication.
mayhem miller
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
I mean, there's obviously a lot of bad shit, like a lot of the right-wing, rah-rah talk radio.
mayhem miller
Yeah, but that's for those people.
You know what I mean?
People want something to rally against.
People want something to be a part of.
We all do.
I do.
I always wanted to win a radio call-in contest.
I always wanted to hear my name on the radio when I was driving somewhere.
joe rogan
Dude, you should totally host some sort of a regular radio show.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
You could totally do something like that.
mayhem miller
What?
joe rogan
Host some sort of a regular radio show.
mayhem miller
MMA hour?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
mayhem miller
You want me to crank up a podcast?
joe rogan
You could totally do something for Sirius or something like that.
brian redban
It's called blowing your speakers.
joe rogan
You doing it just...
Yeah.
You, an hour.
mayhem miller
I didn't even know.
joe rogan
One time a week?
Just throw it in one time a week?
Do it for an hour?
mayhem miller
Are you offering me a job at Sirius right now?
joe rogan
I'm telling you, Brian can set up a podcast for you.
He has a little podcast studio, Red Band Studios, in his house.
He's rocking right now, and we did one with Tom Segura and his lovely wife the other day.
He's done it with Ari and Jason.
brian redban
We have a new one coming up with Sam Tripoli.
It's all about zombies.
joe rogan
Really?
Yeah.
Zombies?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sam Tripoli's doing a zombie podcast?
Yeah.
Starting tomorrow.
What more can you say about zombies?
brian redban
I don't know.
It's going to be interesting.
They're all pilots.
They're all pilots.
joe rogan
I predict by episode three, he'll just start calling people a zombie so he can talk shit about them.
Yeah, George Bush, he's a zombie.
See him on TV? That fucking...
brian redban
It was kind of like that one I used to do with the podcats with Joey Diaz.
It was all about cats, but like, hey, so let's talk about cat litter.
Oh, anyways, you used to rape guys?
It had nothing to do with cats.
joe rogan
I've never listened to Joey's podcast, but it's called Beauty and the Beast, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
How is it?
brian redban
Yeah, it's pretty good.
I like it.
I like it.
That girl has such a cute voice.
I could listen to her all day.
joe rogan
Does he get as worked up when he's with her?
Does he get crazy and start yelling and shit?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
And sometimes, yeah.
unidentified
It's exactly what you would expect your ideas to be.
joe rogan
Jason has to use the potty.
brian redban
You know who's a big fan of that is Miss Miller.
Miss Miller used to...
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
We used to...
unidentified
We used to drive home, you know...
joe rogan
I like how you called her Miss.
brian redban
Miss Miller?
joe rogan
Not Mrs. Yeah.
brian redban
Um...
joe rogan
Miz.
brian redban
Miz.
joe rogan
Remember that shit for a while?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You were trying to rock Miz?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't know what I am, bitch.
brian redban
I don't even know what...
That's one of those things I just haven't cared enough about to learn the miss.
joe rogan
The metric system?
brian redban
Yeah, the metric system with the misses and the misses and the missers.
I still don't know.
joe rogan
There's only one for men, mister.
brian redban
Well, I still...
joe rogan
You're like, you're adding shit.
You're like, the Missouri.
brian redban
Well, there's something else, right?
joe rogan
You don't even think about voting, right?
When voting comes around, you're like, what do I give a fuck?
brian redban
No, I don't want fucking any court dates.
I don't want to get audited or any...
I don't want to be in the system as much as possible.
Like, did you just hear that the government just closed down like 80 websites the other day?
Just pulled them off the internet.
joe rogan
Well, weren't they selling a bunch of pirated shit?
brian redban
So?
I mean, can you just overtake somebody that has, you know, you know what torrents are, right?
They're just like, they're not.
joe rogan
Was that what it is?
It was torrents?
unidentified
Yeah, torrent websites.
joe rogan
Well, I thought some of them were also like piracy websites like where people were selling like counterfeit jewelry and shit like that.
brian redban
Okay, maybe, but it's still kind of weird that they're allowed to just go bam, you know.
joe rogan
I know what you're saying.
saying.
brian redban
Seems weird.
joe rogan
Well, you know, obviously it is.
And it's once they can start shutting down websites.
But if they're doing, see, it's the tricky thing.
Like a lot of people, you know, you've got to recognize that the courts have decided that torrents and downloading copyrighted material is is stealing.
That's how they're looking at it.
So if they've made decisions like that, and then you're gonna run a website or some sort of a torrent site where you're gonna get people access to a bunch of illegal shit, you gotta assume that eventually someone's gonna shut you down, right?
Right.
brian redban
Well, look at the Pirate Bay.
I don't know if you saw that.
They just went back.
They lost, right?
And then they lost the rebuttal or whatever it's called.
And now they're going to jail.
The website's still up, though.
It's like, wait.
joe rogan
So some people are going to jail.
How do those guys make money?
unidentified
Advertising, man.
brian redban
There's so much advertising on that website, it's ridiculous.
joe rogan
And people pay just to have an ad there?
Because nobody pays attention to those fucking ads.
When you go to a website, when was the last time you clicked an ad?
Something has to be absolutely fucking outstandingly interesting for me to click it.
brian redban
They're the kind that you just go there and it says, Congratulations!
You won a gift card to the Olive Garden.
mayhem miller
Click here.
So it's crappy, like websites.
So nobody, like, legitimate is going to...
joe rogan
But they're paying them, they must be paying them mad loot, right?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
In order for them to be fighting this like this, they're not?
So you think they're just fighting it just because they want freedom?
They want to be able to just trade numbers?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
I mean, that's all it is, really.
brian redban
I think that's the whole point of, you know, you can't bust somebody for having, you know, you can't bust somebody for stealing whatever, a Milli Vanilli CD if you don't have the Milli Vanilli CD on something you're serving.
You're just pointing it to all these different directions, you know?
joe rogan
I see what you're saying.
brian redban
It's like torrents.
mayhem miller
Yeah, you're going right to the people?
brian redban
Yeah, torrents are just using, like, you have a piece of a file on your computer.
Somebody else has a piece of a file on their computer.
And all this website, like Pirate Bay, is pointing, like, hey, this is where to go to join this group.
mayhem miller
This is the hallway to walk down.
brian redban
Yeah, this is the hallway down there to walk down in this group.
joe rogan
But it's coming from someone who already bought it, and they should be able to give it away.
Is that what you're saying?
brian redban
No.
No, I'm just saying...
joe rogan
Someone somewhere had to attain a copy of it.
unidentified
Oh, well, yeah.
brian redban
Absolutely.
joe rogan
So either they bought it or they stole it.
brian redban
I'm saying what's scary about the Pirate Bay and what's scary about a lot of these places is if they don't actually have files on their computer and they're getting arrested for things, then what makes it stop you getting arrested because somebody put a torrent file on your form, even though it's not hosted?
joe rogan
Right, but their whole entire purpose for existing on the internet is to connect people with other people that have things available for download that are illegal.
brian redban
Yeah, so Google has maps and it tells you where to go to murder people if you want to.
joe rogan
Oh, but that's a big leap, though.
It's not like Google's called Murder Google.
It's like Google's advertising.
mayhem miller
Hey, check if they got MurderGoogle.com.
I want to start that.
joe rogan
Serial Killer Google.
I see what you're saying.
I totally see what you're saying.
But I also see that if these companies...
Look, for sure music companies have suffered big time because of the internet.
mayhem miller
Well, yeah.
They're just going to shake it up.
Eventually, if shit is like...
For me, clicking on iTunes is so easy that I go, okay, I'll just click on iTunes.
joe rogan
Me too.
mayhem miller
You know what I'm saying?
I'll just buy it.
And not because I have a boatload of money because I would buy about the same amount of music as I do now.
But, like, if I was, like, super poor.
But, like, it's, like, so easy to do, and I don't even want to steal this stuff.
joe rogan
The only time I ever download something is when it's not available for sale.
You know, if I can buy it, I buy it.
I buy everything.
brian redban
Or when it's not out yet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
mayhem miller
It's just they're finding that equalized, like, pressure.
And I think that those torrent files, that's an awesome technology.
Like, they need to...
Use that in legal ways.
You know what I mean?
That's just how it is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The whole issue is a very tricky issue.
Because on one side, you have to say, well, you're stifling innovation by stopping all these people from doing all this stuff and by putting on the brakes on all these sites.
But on the other side, you go, well, wait a minute.
How the fuck are these people supposed to make money?
You can't just have something for free that I want to sell for $20 on Amazon.com.
You could download it in 10 minutes.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
What I'm saying is, it's the same as, oh my god, CDs are going to make everybody, you know, writable CDs are going to ruin it for the music industry.
No, they've got to find an equal pressure.
joe rogan
Well, writable CDs did a little bit of a dent, but the big dent was done by the internet.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, look, man, do you remember when there was record stores?
mayhem miller
Yeah, but they wanted records.
Now it's so easy just to click.
You know, life is getting better, but some people are going to suffer for sure.
brian redban
I'm lucky.
I live across the street from a record store that does used records and regular records.
So every time I want a CD, I just go there and spend $3.99 for a used CD. What's the name of the store?
joe rogan
Don't say it, because then people will know exactly where you live.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You live right across the street from it, Brian.
I was testing you.
I've been to Amoeba.
Amoeba Records is pretty dope.
brian redban
Amoeba Suite.
joe rogan
It's like some weird link to the past where you're holding a vinyl album.
You're like, whoa, this is a disc, and you spin this and something scratches it.
mayhem miller
And how often do you buy a record?
joe rogan
I'll buy a CD, though.
I'll buy CDs still if I'm someplace.
If I'm at Best Buy and I want to listen to something, like we have a rental car or something like that.
But now that I have my phone or my iPod hooked up to my car...
mayhem miller
That's what I'm saying.
You have all your media in your hand.
joe rogan
What I miss though is a real DJ. I miss DJs.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
There's personalities.
Cool DJs.
mayhem miller
Hey!
It's mayhem in the a.m.
96.7.
We're getting wacky this morning.
unidentified
It's a big drive on the highway today.
joe rogan
I could see that.
Mayhem in the A-hem.
Mayhem in the A-hem.
I could see that radio show now.
You would have to get a black chick sidekick.
mayhem miller
Yeah!
joe rogan
You would have to get two.
The first one you're going to fire.
She's just really...
And then the second one will know.
Listen, bitch, you get crazy.
We're going to fire you.
This is the Mayhem show, right?
This is the Natanya show.
Oh, man.
mayhem miller
Wendy Williams will be my sidekick?
Me and Wendy Williams talking shit about MMA. Yo, did you see the fight this weekend?
And Wendy Williams would be like, no.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
mayhem miller
Oh, whatever.
And you're going to do traffic for me, right?
brian redban
And then we got the traffic.
joe rogan
We got the seating, the 101. Yeah, if I would have traffic, it would be like kittens would be falling from the sky in his videos.
Right when you were tuning into the clouds, it'd be some fucking flaming skull face that scares the shit out of you.
unidentified
I had a little bit of blood on my toilet bowl seat when I got off today.
joe rogan
Have you seen that video of that rat attacking cats?
brian redban
Yeah.
Wow.
mayhem miller
Wait, is this a Brazilian jungle rat or something?
joe rogan
It's some crazy rat.
I don't know where it was, but there's this rat running after these cats and one time bites this one cat and it's stuck to him and the cat's running trying to shake the rat off.
This rat doesn't give a fuck.
These cats are so confused.
mayhem miller
Well, I mean, they're domesticated house cats.
They're not fighting giant mega monster rats that have been mutated by ooze.
joe rogan
And you realize when you see how high rats can jump.
They jump up to bite.
Those motherfuckers jump high.
mayhem miller
They're like an athletic animal.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're pretty low, man.
We're lucky rats are little.
mayhem miller
If rats were big, we'd be fucked.
joe rogan
We'd really be fucked, man.
I killed a rat once in my garage and I left it there because I was lazy.
That's why I lived in Encino.
And it was a big fucking rat because I used to leave the garbage back there and I would hear like these in my garage like clang, clang, clang.
I would hear these loud ass noises and I opened up my garage.
I opened up the door and I hit the light switch and this fucking rat moved across my garbage and it was like attack size.
Like it could attack me.
Like, this is a big, dangerous, threatening animal.
I was looking at this like, holy fuck, that's a big rat.
mayhem miller
That's called a possum, bro.
joe rogan
It was big, dude.
It was a rat.
But it was big, man.
It was like half the size of a cat.
mayhem miller
How do you know it was a rat?
joe rogan
Because I killed it.
So I set up a trap.
Got a rat trap, set it up there, and I came back and it was fucking...
Big, man.
Like, big and fat and fucking.
I'm like, this is eating all my garbage.
mayhem miller
I would have put that on JoeRogan.net if I were you.
joe rogan
I fucked up.
This is before I even had JoeRogan.net.
brian redban
The trap was in his ass.
joe rogan
If I had acted back then, I would have owned JoeRogan.com.
But I was sleeping.
That motherfucker!
To me, he's one of my greatest losses.
He's a real estate guy.
Very nice guy from Boise, Idaho.
He wanted a shitload of money for it.
He wanted like 80 grand.
Something crazy.
I was like, what?
I'm like, I can't give you that much money, man.
I have.net.
They can find it.
Now with Google, if you want to find my website, you can find it.
It's not that hard.
I can't give you that much for fucking.com.
Crazy asshole.
mayhem miller
I know, yeah.
You're Joe Rogan.
Give me some money.
joe rogan
There's another guy that has an issue with that.
Tom Green.
brian redban
Why?
joe rogan
Because there's another dude named Tom Green.
brian redban
You're on there tomorrow, by the way, right?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm doing Tom Green's...
brian redban
What time are you doing that?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's a good question.
Tom Green's podcast tomorrow at the Smodcastle.
I guess Kevin Smith has some sort of a whole podcast, like a studio set up.
mayhem miller
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Just to do podcasts.
Yeah.
Podcasts are fucking taking off, man.
unidentified
They are, man.
mayhem miller
They are.
joe rogan
How about Mayhem and the Ahem, a podcast?
unidentified
Mayhem and the Ahem.
joe rogan
If you want to do it, man, we could set it up.
We could do it at Brian's place.
brian redban
You can come to my house.
joe rogan
You can't rape him, though, man.
No rape.
Promise.
mayhem miller
Who, Eric?
joe rogan
You.
unidentified
My Chris.
brian redban
Promise not to rape me.
joe rogan
Chris over here, you can't scare him.
mayhem miller
His name's fucking Eric, bro.
joe rogan
That's today.
It used to be Chris, which is for the record.
mayhem miller
He changed his name.
joe rogan
Brian first, but then Chris after he met you, and then Eric after today.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
I always can't remember your name.
Yep.
You're Red Band.
I can't call you.
unidentified
I get a nickname in my head for somebody and I get stuck.
brian redban
You don't think I'm Eric.
mayhem miller
You're Red Band.
brian redban
Whatever.
You're just trying to play with my emotions.
joe rogan
Dude, that fucking laugh, this whole attitude you have towards life, this I'm not scared to be around mountain lions and sharks and shit like that.
mayhem miller
Why would you be?
Man, whatever.
joe rogan
I'm not saying you're wrong.
I'm not saying you're wrong.
unidentified
I'm not arguing it.
brian redban
I think everybody's scared to be around.
I think you only think about it more, though.
joe rogan
Me?
brian redban
Yeah, you're constantly thinking about it.
joe rogan
I am too aware.
mayhem miller
I just feel like I'll deal with that when it comes up.
I'm like, oh, right now I'm going to live my life, and then I see a fucking mountain lion while I'm mountain biking, which makes sense because they both have mountain in them.
I would fucking deal with it then.
joe rogan
It's a very weird thing when you lock eyes with a big predator like a mountain lion in the wild.
I only locked eyes with the one that I saw.
I only locked eyes with it for a couple seconds.
But that's a very weird moment.
mayhem miller
You saw it with your dog?
Don't you have a giant dog?
joe rogan
Yeah, my giant dog was inside.
It was my little dog that was outside that got jacked.
My giant dog is a big Mastiff.
mayhem miller
It stole it from you?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
My Mastiff was injured.
So he had injured his paw.
So I left him in the house.
I didn't want him running around up in the mountains.
They would run all over the place up there.
Just kidding.
You know, they'd get a pack, there's three of them together, and they would have a good time.
Just go run and play.
And that kept animals away.
But I have a bulldog, and he's lazy.
And then this little dog, which was a Chihuahua, excuse me, Pomeranian-American Eskimo mix.
And that one's the one that got jacked.
Because he was out there wandering around basically by himself.
He's only 20 pounds, and he doesn't have his 140-pound buddy to look over his shoulders.
And he doesn't have the bulldog, because the bulldog would go with them if the two of them were going.
Even though he's lazy, he would go with them.
So there was a lot of action there.
There was a pack that would keep the animals away.
But something had been stalking my house for a while because the dogs would just go crazy.
They'd be on the porch.
You just start barking at the top of their lungs.
And you'd hear things like snapping in the distance, in the dark.
It's a trip, man.
brian redban
Do I have to worry about...
I probably don't, but I'm pretty sure I don't have to.
joe rogan
If I was you.
brian redban
Crows.
Crows don't kill dogs, right?
joe rogan
Did you not see the movie?
brian redban
Well, I'm not talking about...
mayhem miller
Alfred Hitchcock?
brian redban
Brandon.
joe rogan
Crows are ruthless.
brian redban
Crows are ruthless, right?
joe rogan
They'll kill your dog.
They think they can?
brian redban
There's this guy and this girl crow that just sit out and make these clicking noises, like the whole time.
And then my dog will come out there and just be looking up at it, and then once in a while the crow just swoops down, doesn't attack it or anything, but it's kind of like he's just like...
Like about to do it.
joe rogan
Seeing if you can eat it.
I left a steak outside.
It was partially thawed and not totally thawed out and I was going to barbecue.
So I left a steak outside for 10 minutes.
I came back.
There was two crows on it just jacking the steak.
Just pulling out chunks of the meat and squawking.
So I do have to worry about crows.
Yo, dude.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
You have to worry about crows.
You can't leave your dog outside if that's what you mean.
mayhem miller
Dude, in Japan, they have monster crows.
joe rogan
Your dog's three pounds and she's a whore.
mayhem miller
Three pounds?
joe rogan
She's a three pound whore.
brian redban
I'll come out and my dog's fucking the crows.
joe rogan
Yeah, the crows are gangbanging your dog.
unidentified
Hey, you get over here.
joe rogan
You missed the story.
brian redban
Twixie vixen.
joe rogan
He brought his dog to a party where a bunch of people had dogs and they all took turns just gangbanging his dog.
brian redban
So I'm at the same time.
mayhem miller
All the dogs did?
brian redban
Yeah, ten dogs.
joe rogan
It's a giant pile on.
mayhem miller
What a slut.
brian redban
Yeah.
mayhem miller
Man, I love her.
brian redban
Twixie.
Sweet Twixie Vixie.
mayhem miller
My hot dog dog is gay, for sure.
joe rogan
Is he?
mayhem miller
Oh, yeah.
He had a little tiny dog, a two-pound dog like that that he was talking about.
And he was not interested, but he had this little tight, athletic, muscular...
Little dude dog.
And he was just like all over it.
Banging him.
Front headlock.
Banging him.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
mayhem miller
I was like, what are you?
Alright.
Like, wow, you're into dudes, huh?
I guess.
I figure if I was just running around with just like a collar on, I would be, you know, whatever.
The line is blurred at that point.
The line is blurry.
Like, you're running around in a collar.
You're a wild animal.
Well, whatever.
joe rogan
If the female's in heat, then it becomes very clear.
mayhem miller
Yeah, that's what I mean.
He was sniffing at the coochie-coo, like, quite a bit.
He was like...
joe rogan
My pit bull was, um...
He was in agony one night.
Like, in serious, serious agony.
Where I thought he said something wrong with him.
I'm like, he's got cancer or something.
This is crazy.
He was, like, whining and yiping.
And I'd come near him.
I'm like, what's up, buddy?
You okay?
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I'm like, whoa, this is crazy.
My dog's fucked up.
Like, he'd go down the stairs and he'd be, like, limping as he was going down the stairs.
mayhem miller
And you jerked him off.
joe rogan
I feel real sad.
I'm like, my dog's gonna die.
Something's wrong with my dog.
I gotta get him to the vet.
This is horrible.
He's, like, whimpering.
So I take him to the vet.
The vet looks at me.
He starts checking out my dog's balls.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Checking out his dick.
And he's like, you see this?
You see this right here?
See how inflamed this is?
Okay, there's a dog in your neighborhood that's in heat.
And that's what's going on.
I'm like, whoa!
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
He's in agony from his heart on.
His dick was so swollen.
It was so, like, the glands.
Like, here's the balls, and then there's these weird glands by the side of the dick that are just like...
mayhem miller
My dog has that sometimes.
joe rogan
Is your dog fixed?
mayhem miller
No.
joe rogan
No, my dog isn't either.
Is he jerk your dog off?
unidentified
That's what I just said.
mayhem miller
I said he shouldn't jerk the dog off.
joe rogan
They can't do anything.
You can if you want to jerk your dog off.
You can't.
unidentified
Red Rocket.
joe rogan
How many times are you going to do that in a row?
brian redban
It just depends.
mayhem miller
If I had to do it every, I don't know, couple weeks, I guess I could do that.
I mean, he's a good friend.
joe rogan
My friend Dimitri used to jerk off his dog.
mayhem miller
I'm going to answer the phone.
It's right there.
joe rogan
Same person.
Disrespectful fucks.
mayhem miller
They don't know we're on the podcast right now.
joe rogan
Bullshit, man.
You know what it tells me?
It tells me they're not watching.
mayhem miller
They're not friends of yours.
joe rogan
They're just hurting my feelings.
Same person keeps calling, man.
mayhem miller
They don't follow you on Twitter.
What the fuck?
unidentified
It's probably...
joe rogan
It's over, folks.
With that ring comes the end.
That is the end of the show.
There's no reason to keep going.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
It's 8.30, 8.30 p.m.
mayhem miller
It is late.
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Late as fuck.
mayhem miller
Whatever.
joe rogan
Son...
Mayhem Miller, you are always one of the most fascinating people to talk to.
mayhem miller
Thanks, bro.
joe rogan
Always a fun guy to be around.
Mayhem, by the way, writes a really great article in Fight Magazine.
He's one of my favorite writers.
Now, I'm not bullshitting, not just as a fighter.
And I told him very early on, I'm like, dude, you've got real talent, and I really hope you write a book someday, because I think you could write some crazy Hunter S. Thompson shit.
His writing is really good.
mayhem miller
Thanks, man.
joe rogan
I mean, it's excellent.
mayhem miller
The latest one you'll appreciate, because I'm in Rio de Janeiro.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Alright, and you're writing about your experiences?
Because you were there for a couple weeks, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, so I was out there for a while, so I did everything you could do.
joe rogan
Tell me about that real quick before we take off.
mayhem miller
I don't know.
joe rogan
Because what is Rio like, man?
unidentified
Man.
mayhem miller
Is it scary?
joe rogan
Is it scary?
mayhem miller
Read the article.
unidentified
It's awesome.
joe rogan
I'm trying to read the article.
mayhem miller
Give us a little taste.
joe rogan
I see the article.
I'm here right now.
mayhem miller
Give me a little bit of a taste.
That's like a whole new...
I don't know.
It's crazy.
It was like the next level...
I don't know.
I always had my...
Preconceived notions about Brazil due to movies and due to whatever the hell's going on.
My friends, my Brazilian friends, the fighters, what they tell me about it.
I have a new found respect for that city and I understand my Brazilian friends a little bit more now.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
mayhem miller
So the article really...
I can just see why they think that everything...
They have such passion for their country because...
Everybody there has a lot of passion.
It's like that.
It's a passionate place.
People love to do stuff.
People are good at things.
They really love it.
The stuff that's dirty is supposed to be dirty.
It's kind of dirty, of course, but it's supposed to be dirty.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
mayhem miller
You say dirty...
But in a bad way, that sounds bad, but it's like the streets are dirty.
Everybody drives with a vengeance.
joe rogan
Right.
They drive crazy.
mayhem miller
Yeah, they drive crazy, but it seems skillful.
unidentified
I saw less car wrecks there than I ever saw here in L.A. Well, it's all with That's what you get used to.
joe rogan
You get used to that sort of hyper-driving.
mayhem miller
Yeah, everybody's used to it.
Exactly.
Everybody just drives through.
unidentified
I don't know, man.
mayhem miller
There's so much stuff.
Fight Magazine.
We'll have it, man, for December.
You've got to check out the article.
joe rogan
Did you see anything crazy while you were there?
Any violence?
Anything nutty?
mayhem miller
Anything that made you feel unsafe?
No, we went to the favelas.
We went to a couple times to, like, the ghetto.
Like, yeah, we went to the favelas.
And, you know, I write about that in this article, too, man, about going there and people are, like, collecting rainwater and these drums, you know, to drink.
Yeah, to drink.
unidentified
They're poor.
mayhem miller
And they have, like, they're tapping into the telephone poles to get electricity.
unidentified
Wow.
mayhem miller
Yeah, and the streets are all jagged, and people own that area.
The drug dealers own the favelas and stuff, but they have the boppies coming in, which are the Brazilian kick-ass police force.
The police station is right there in the middle of the thing, and everyone's running out.
It feels like a military presence instead of an army, the ones that have taken over and been nice again.
joe rogan
Whoa.
mayhem miller
Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan
There's a big article, I think it was on CNN this morning about that, but there's tanks moving back in.
mayhem miller
Yeah, right now it's like a little bit of like...
Marcel Alonso, this journalist that I was out there with, he kind of told me that it's dying down right now, but there's like a lot of guys, the drug dealers doing crazy terrorist stuff right now in Rio.
It sucks that...
That's happening right now.
joe rogan
I was in Sao Paulo in 2003 and a friend of mine went back in 2008, I believe it was, and he was arrested.
There was so much violence between the police and the drug dealers that they were closing down streets and highways.
And they were driving to a Chuhascarilla with some business clients, and everybody was pulled out of the car at gunpoint.
They had fucking, you know, they wanted to make sure they weren't, they were in a nice car, and they didn't know who these people were, and they wanted to make sure they weren't drug dealers.
So they were just pulling people out and sticking guns in their faces.
mayhem miller
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
They said it was pretty fucking scary, because they were killing police officers' families.
They would go to their family and just kill everyone.
mayhem miller
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They were doing it for a while, man.
They were declaring war.
On the police officers.
It was pretty, it was pretty loked out.
mayhem miller
No way!
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brazil, you know, and the crazy thing about Brazil is, you know, Brazil's a beautiful, insane, like, tropical jungle country.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the favelas, where all, like, the chaos has taken place, is above the regular city.
mayhem miller
I know, yeah.
joe rogan
Rio, which is, like, the main city, is in the bottom.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then, where the beautiful view is, Yeah.
That's all the projects.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
They have the richest, most beautiful view in the world.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
And they're living in cardboard houses and shit.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
No, they put that stuff together on their own.
It's like crazy.
Yeah.
But, you know, I mean, I can understand why people love the country.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
mayhem miller
I can understand why.
joe rogan
It's definitely a passion-filled country, man.
mayhem miller
Yeah.
That's what I mean.
Yeah, it's great, man.
I don't know.
I had a great experience out there.
joe rogan
Their economy is booming right now, too.
They have so much going on right now, and they also found oil off the coast of Brazil, so there's a lot of money in Brazil right now.
Their economy's not fucked up like ours is.
It's moving in a better direction.
They're talking about doing a UFC there eventually.
That would be fascinating.
But, you know, you talk to, like, Vinny Magalese.
Yeah, Vinny.
Yeah, baby Vinny.
Yeah, sure.
He was talking about, on the underground, he was talking about doing a UFC in Rio.
And he posted, I think it was him, who posted some link of some, no, somebody else posted a link of the Formula One drivers.
Formula One drivers were in Sao Paulo, and they got fucking shot at in their armored car.
Someone was trying to carjack them.
They were in armored cars.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Man.
joe rogan
They're trying to kidnap them.
mayhem miller
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Kidnap them or just rob them.
Rob them at gunpoint.
Hoping they can get some watches or something.
mayhem miller
Ooh, crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
A buddy of mine was there, and he was with a friend of his that was doing something, and he had a pocket full of money in his lap.
And he was looking through it and trying to fish through it.
And as he was doing this, a guy came up in a motorcycle, looked at his money, pulled out a gun, tapped on the windshield, told the guy to pull over, and they just robbed him.
They robbed everybody.
Just stuck a gun in their face and just took everybody.
And he said the guy would just drive around looking in people's cars to see if they had nice watches or what they had that looked cool and they would just steal it.
mayhem miller
Man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You might be in the wrong place at the wrong time, son.
That's me, bro.
The voice of doom.
Dude, you are.
mayhem miller
You're the most bumming me out guy on earth right now.
Joe Rogan is scared of the world.
joe rogan
It's not.
I'm just aware.
I'm not scared.
mayhem miller
Yeah, just pay attention.
Don't get jacked.
joe rogan
But, you know, as a person who's constantly thinking about shit, I always have to be aware of all the variables.
mayhem miller
You think way too much, bro.
joe rogan
You think so?
mayhem miller
I think you think a lot.
joe rogan
You think so too?
mayhem miller
I think you think deep into some things you don't need to think that deep into.
joe rogan
Can't help it though.
It's probably a sickness.
It's a sickness that manifests itself as an excellent career.
You know?
The sickness of constantly thinking about shit and breaking things down to the finest minutia.
mayhem miller
That's true.
brian redban
Isn't that OCD though or something like that?
joe rogan
Something probably like that.
unidentified
That's awesome.
mayhem miller
Makes sense.
joe rogan
The hard thing with me is just finding the right things to break down.
Things that are productive to tune my energy to.
Because you can easily get lost.
mayhem miller
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Masturbation or online arguments or video games.
You can get lost in a bunch of unhealthy channels.
brian redban
Hopefully you got some good stuff, though, that you OCD about, like butthole tidiness and trimming and stuff like that.
joe rogan
The show was going to end.
It was going to be fine.
Right there.
And you had to come in, Brian.
mayhem miller
No, man.
He wants to talk about your butthole.
joe rogan
He's all about buttholes.
I told you, bro.
mayhem miller
One million.
joe rogan
One million.
unidentified
One million dollars.
joe rogan
And no less.
And I don't need that million bucks.
I'll tell you that right now.
I would like it.
I'd like it.
But if I don't get it, I'll be okay.
God damn it.
mayhem miller
Jason Mayhem Miller.
That was a good time.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was always a good time with you, my friend.
Mayhem Miller at Twitter.
I'm so hungry right now.
Twitter.com.
Okay, cool.
I've got another coconut juice for you, fella.
mayhem miller
Yeah!
joe rogan
Brian's Twitter is Redband.
We want to thank The Fleshlight for sponsoring the podcast.
And again, if you would like to feel what it feels like to masturbate into one of those fine, sweet bitches, all you have to do is go to JoeRogan.net and click that fleshlight link and you get 15% off when you put in the code name.
What is it?
Rogan.
mayhem miller
Rogan.
joe rogan
Very simple.
The tickets for the New Year's Eve show at Mandalay Bay will go up very shortly.
We should have all that done within a couple of days.
And as soon as I get it done, I'll let you guys know.
And we might be doing one more podcast this week.
We're going to try to get Ralphie May in here on Wednesday.
mayhem miller
Oh, I just hung out with Ralphie May.
He's awesome.
joe rogan
If Ralphie's got the time off, we've got to talk to him later.
All right, bitches.
I love you.
And I'll see you soon, somewhere.
Maybe not even see you, but I'll be there.
And you'll be there, too.
And let's pretend we're all in the same place.
What?
Is this Ice-T? Is this Ice-T saying suck my dick?
unidentified
No.
mayhem miller
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
Sounds like it.
This sounds like a black guy, but not too black.
Yeah, he's not like Africa black.
You know, he's not like Czech-Congo black.
Light-skinned.
mayhem miller
He's light-skinned.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's light-skinned.
He might even rock an afro just to try to accentuate his more African side.
mayhem miller
Yeah, but he has braids in the summer.
joe rogan
Yeah, because if he had a shaved head, you might think he was an Arab or something, right?
mayhem miller
Yeah, maybe.
Light-skinned.
joe rogan
Probably light-skinned.
mayhem miller
High yellow.
joe rogan
Maybe he even got a little bit of, like, white features, which is why he's got such an extra-aggressive attitude.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's trying to, like, prop himself up.
Let you know.
You know?
mayhem miller
You're racist.
joe rogan
Hear him, hear him.
That's not racist, bro.
This is observant.
See, I break it all down.
mayhem miller
I know.
joe rogan
Alright folks, most likely we'll be back on Wednesday.
I'm doing the Tom Green thing tomorrow.
I don't have any details.
That's Tom Green's thing.
You can follow him on Twitter.
I think it's TomGreenLive.
That's it, bitches.
I love you.
And I'll see you next week.
Or sometime soon.
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