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Sept. 29, 2010 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #45 - Tom Green
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unidentified
According to server right now.
tom green
Lots to look at in this room too.
unidentified
Lots of skulls and things we can...
joe rogan
This is a video that someone did with Greg Giraldo.
Greg Giraldo doing stand-up and ranting while they played music in the background.
For those of you that didn't know, Greg Gerardo overdosed and today he died.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
So, if you didn't know, Greg Giraldo, very funny, very smart, very clever stand-up comedian, passed away.
And they're talking about it on the news today, so I guess it's official.
Sucks.
Sucks.
What can you say?
He's a very nice guy.
I didn't know him that well.
I was on news radio.
He was on a show.
I forget the name of it, but his set was right down the street from my set.
So I hung out with him, you know, quite a few times.
Super friendly.
Very nice guy.
Very smart.
You know, he just...
I don't know what happened.
I know he had had some substance things in the past, but I thought...
Who knows?
I don't know if this was an accident, if he just was partying.
I don't know.
brian redban
Did you see him on the roast, the Hasselhoff roast?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
A lot of people noted something about him that seemed different than normal, but...
joe rogan
What'd they say?
brian redban
They seem to be very coked up.
joe rogan
Coked up?
unidentified
Yeah, that's what the quote-unquote look and style was.
But I, you know, I wouldn't say that.
joe rogan
I can't say that.
I look coked up and I've never done coke ever.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
People always say, Rogan, lay off the coke, you're all coked up.
I've never even done coke once.
tom green
I've never done coke.
joe rogan
Tom Green is with us, ladies and gentlemen.
If you don't know, the sound of this man's voice to my right.
This guy is the reason why I'm doing this.
tom green
Sort of a somber occasion to be here.
And it was nice to be able to listen to some of his comedy today on this obviously a sad occasion.
He had some great stuff.
joe rogan
He was a good dude, too.
He was awesome on roasts.
On roasts, he would destroy guys.
Just perfectly, where there was nothing they could...
Well, Leary did that to him on Tough Crowd.
brian redban
That was the most amazing thing I've ever seen on video.
joe rogan
And he wasn't even an asshole about it.
He could have been way more of an asshole about it.
He did it with a lot of reserve.
He was a very nice guy.
tom green
It's been a tough year.
Robert Schimmel just passed away as well.
I just...
Can I change the topic now?
Sure.
I'm getting upset.
To be honest, you're getting me upset.
joe rogan
We have to say thank our sponsor.
We're sponsored by The Fleshlight.
tom green
Yes.
Yeah, I know.
First of all, this is cool to be here.
It's exciting to be here.
Thanks for having me up to the show.
joe rogan
Thank you for being here, man.
If it wasn't for you, I would have never even thought to have done this.
When I went over to your house, when you had me over to your house for your show, and he has...
This is what we're doing here.
We have a couch.
We have some microphones.
We have a desk that I bought at Z Gallery.
tom green
Yeah, this is awesome.
joe rogan
This is fucking as low-rent as you can get.
This is a little Logitech webcam.
But Tom has a serious, serious setup at his place.
His place is, don't be showing everybody our secrets, man.
tom green
But this is a whole different system you guys have here, which is cool.
It's cool to watch, and I'm seeing how you're broadcasting here.
joe rogan
Our audio was terrible for the longest time, so we had to tighten it up.
So people complained, and we listened, so we went out and bought all this fucking crazy equipment, and we've got it down.
Now we have new microphones.
We just tried them yesterday.
tom green
Oh, these are new microphones.
joe rogan
We used to use stage mics, like the mics you use for stand-up, which are great if you're holding them up to your mouth.
I don't remember the exact.
tom green
But there's a silver one?
joe rogan
Shure something.
Shure?
tom green
S-C-H-U-R-E. Shure SM58. Look that up on Google, everybody.
We are now on some Audio-Technica microphones.
That's right.
joe rogan
They seem to be much better.
tom green
These are actually for this.
On my show, I don't have the headphones because we're trying to make it like it's not a radio show.
This is like a radio show.
unidentified
Sort of, yeah.
tom green
I did a radio show in college at Ottawa University at CHU 89.1 FM.
Look that up.
joe rogan
It's an added element to the conversation when you hear each other's voices.
tom green
You can hear your voice right there in your ear.
brian redban
The secret is definitely the double cassette player that we use though.
tom green
What's that?
joe rogan
Double cassette player.
unidentified
Our secrets, you know?
Our tech secrets of how we run this podcast.
tom green
Oh, yeah.
That is good, yeah.
unidentified
Laser disc players and double cassette.
tom green
They're running YouTube videos off an 8-track.
unidentified
Battery operated only.
You don't want any interference.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very...
What's the word?
When something's all helter-skelter.
unidentified
Gorilla.
tom green
It's a smorgasbork of wires.
joe rogan
It's a ridiculous pile of shit.
Helter-skelter.
No previous knowledge.
You can see the evolution of the podcast like amoebas becoming fish.
You can watch the whole thing.
unidentified
We owe it all to Amazon too.
joe rogan
Yeah, Amazon.com.
One click is a motherfucker.
What do you need?
We need one of these.
Bam!
tom green
But this is fun.
In college, I did my radio show.
It was a phone and show.
I'd go there every Friday night at midnight.
It was called The Midnight Caller.
I did this show for six years.
Not even when I was in high school and then after when I was in community college.
I took television broadcasting at Algonquin College in Ottawa, Canada.
Named after the Algonquin Indians.
joe rogan
Now, I've always been curious about television broadcasting.
When you take a course like that, what do they have you do?
Do you pretend to be like a newscaster?
tom green
It's mostly technical, like it wasn't on camera.
There was one on-camera course, but it was mostly like editing, video editing, lighting, photography, how to work a video camera, how to set all your technical stuff.
And we had...
We had one broadcast news writing course, and we had some single camera video production and film type courses.
But it was mostly technical.
joe rogan
It must be hard as fuck to keep up.
You learn how to video edit from a few years ago.
If you graduated a few years ago, now you go to...
tom green
We were learning how to do it on a three-quarter inch videocassette.
The videotapes are this big.
You put them in this bunt.
joe rogan
I've seen those.
tom green
And it's like two A, B roll, two videotapes.
Then we got high eight.
This was before computers, editing, computer editing.
They had Avid's and stuff, but not at the school.
They were too expensive at that point.
unidentified
I edited it on Paintbrush.
tom green
Yeah.
Oh, yeah?
unidentified
I started off with Paintbrush.
joe rogan
Did you really?
unidentified
Yeah, movies on Paintbrush.
tom green
It's unbelievable what you can do now, right?
joe rogan
It's just iMovie on your fucking iPhone.
That's the most incredible thing.
You can produce something, attach music to it, edit it, all on your phone.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
On your fucking phone, man.
In HD. It's amazing.
It's like we're in strange, strange times.
tom green
Yeah, I'm getting the new iPhone within the next couple days just because my friend just got it and I'm jealous.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's an envious thing.
That's the motherfucker of devices.
tom green
He picks it up.
He's shooting...
High-def video.
Have you seen it?
Touch the screen.
Oh, you have one.
Oh, you got one already, too.
joe rogan
Brian and I are super geeked out.
tom green
You have one, too?
joe rogan
We're total technology geeks.
tom green
I have the oldest iPhone ever.
unidentified
Are you serious?
tom green
My iPhone is the old one.
joe rogan
Oh, you got it.
That thing has a crank on it, man.
That thing runs on wood.
tom green
The resolution is insane.
joe rogan
The photos are insane.
tom green
Unbelievable, yeah.
joe rogan
It's just amazing that we've got a device like that.
That is like some serious Star Trek shit.
It slowly crept up on us from the Motorola Razr to Microsoft Office phones.
And then when it gets to this iPhone, I mean, that is a fucking home computer.
tom green
I can no longer be proud of this.
This is the way I used to feel about this.
joe rogan
Well, it still looks good.
tom green
As long as you keep the case on it.
Can you swear on the show?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can swear on the motherfucker.
tom green
This is some old piece of shit, is what this is.
joe rogan
That's the sad thing about technology, and that's probably only a few months old, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom green
This is two years old.
unidentified
They have soundboards.
Have you played these soundboards?
tom green
No.
Oh, you know, I did the IMT Pain download.
I enjoy that.
I enjoy doing the IMT Pain app.
joe rogan
We're talking obscure iPhone apps.
tom green
Yeah, that's a good one.
It's an auto-tune.
joe rogan
So you've always, from your time in broadcasting school to now, you've always been really involved in the technology of the behind-the-scenes stuff.
tom green
You know, I kind of figured, when I was in high school, and I thought it'd be fun to, you know, Do a TV show someday, is basically what I thought.
I was watching David Letterman at night, and I was thinking, man, that would be the most fun thing to ever do, I was thinking.
And little did I know.
No, it's a lot of fun doing this stuff.
But the thing is, you know...
unidentified
Sometimes.
tom green
Sometimes it's not so fun.
But the thing is, no one's ever going to let me do a show.
I'm going to have to go do a show at the public access station.
We'll make our own show.
I went to school, learned how to make the videos, went to the public access station, started the show.
unidentified
Wow.
tom green
Did it for seven years.
joe rogan
Well, you became very popular because of your public access show.
That's what got you started off.
unidentified
You're also a rap star, too, though.
tom green
It's basically what got picked up by MTV was the Public Access show.
And it had a Canadian rap group.
Yeah, that was before the Public Access show.
That was when I was a kid.
Yeah, rapping.
joe rogan
Yeah, people, they see this man, and he's very white, and he has a beard, and he's very conservative-looking, very polite.
You don't know, he's a badass rapper.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Tom Green can rap his fucking ass off.
unidentified
I was listening to your shit today, man.
joe rogan
Do you have anything on YouTube that you could throw up?
unidentified
Yeah, I got it right here.
joe rogan
Really?
Yeah, let me hear a Tom Green rap.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
I love rap music, man.
I take shit for it.
tom green
I make beats, and I also...
See, that's the other thing.
Before I started doing the video editing and wanted to do that, I made beats at home.
So I had my own little Atari computer hooked up to a Kai sampler and a keyboard.
Yeah, that's cool.
unidentified
I had the camera with the monitor.
joe rogan
Is this it?
Are you playing it right now?
tom green
Oh, this is...
You're playing something.
Actually, it's kind of funny when you play music, because we recorded this song 20...
22 years ago or something like that.
And we were kids, you know, and our teenagers.
And this is us walking around downtown.
joe rogan
When is you?
Tell me when it's you.
tom green
I'm the one in the red jacket.
And I made the music which is essentially a sample That's my friend Greg Greg Campbell.
joe rogan
You guys are from Ottawa?
tom green
Yeah, from Ottawa.
Yeah, so it was fun.
We actually got a record deal when we were in high school, and the song and the video was playing on TV and everything.
It was a very exciting time for two young rappers from Ottawa.
This video won the 1992 Much Music Video Award, CMVA Award.
We performed live on the On the CMVA awards and I covered myself with shaving cream for no reason and got up in the lens of the camera, covered myself in shaving cream.
So we weren't like the sort of hard core.
unidentified
Have you auto-tuned this yet?
Have you tried to remix?
tom green
No, that's me rapping.
unidentified
See?
tom green
Walking through the grocery store.
joe rogan
Let me hear this.
tom green
I love Public Enemy.
But this is old, though.
You gotta hear my new shit.
You gotta hear my new shit.
joe rogan
Alright, where can we get some of your new shit?
tom green
I don't know.
It's probably floating around.
No, this is the one to look at.
This is the one to look at.
joe rogan
This is really good, man.
tom green
I've had a lot of fun, surprising...
Rappers that have come on my web show.
Actually, that's a funny clip you could show.
joe rogan
Oh, were you in...
unidentified
Who was it?
tom green
Exhibit, yeah.
You can go look at it on YouTube.
joe rogan
Go to that.
tom green
It's funny because he starts cracking up in sort of a funny moment, you know, where he's...
joe rogan
Did you initially want to be a rapper before you became a comedian?
tom green
Not really, no.
I was in high school and I thought...
It was a fun thing to do on stage at the assemblies.
They had a battle of the bands night.
It was an excuse to get up on stage, so we made this rap group.
I liked listening to it.
Nobody knew what rap music was in my...
I was listening to Boogie Down Productions, NWA, Public Enemy, which was not Tribe Called Quest.
These groups weren't really mainstream yet on the radio in Canada in the 80s and 90s.
But yeah, so, but you know what?
I was thinking about this the other day.
Rap music back then is kind of like, it kind of provided what the internet provides now, which is a glimpse into other parts of the world, other places.
You know, here was, we were in Canada, and we're listening to these songs coming out of New York, coming out, you know, Boogie Down Productions out of the South Bronx, and we're listening to them telling all these tales of life on the streets in the South Bronx, and you're listening to this, and you're going on a cassette, you know, and you're listening to it, and you're Walkman on the way to school, and Criminal-minded, the record, and you're like, oh man, listen to these stories.
I was thinking about that driving over here today.
It's kind of sad because in a way that might be something that disappears from music now because of the internet.
Maybe that's going to screw up music.
Let's not be negative.
Well, because we don't have to go to music now to get those kinds of I guess we would listen to them on the internet.
joe rogan
I think anything good is going to stick around.
There's not going to be anything that's awesome that's going to go away.
Everybody's like, oh, this is going to be the death of music.
How can anything be the death of music when everybody loves music?
That's ridiculous.
It'll be the death of comedy.
tom green
I guess I'm more curious to see how it'll affect it or how it'll evolve.
joe rogan
It'll be good.
tom green
It'll be good.
Yeah.
Well, now there's so many more places that people want to make music and just distribute their music to, right?
So it's perfect.
joe rogan
So many more people have access.
tom green
It's perfect.
joe rogan
Just us.
The fact that we can do this.
The fact that we can do this and just broadcast talking over the internet.
This is just...
You can become famous from bands.
That little kid?
The one that sang that cover of the Lady Gaga song?
unidentified
Justin Bieber.
joe rogan
No, no.
tom green
Oh, yeah.
The one on Ellen.
Ellen gave a record deal.
joe rogan
Fucking...
That was brilliant, dude.
That was like some...
That gave me goosebumps.
Yeah.
I listened to that kid sing.
It gave me goosebumps.
I made my whole family listen to it.
I was like, this is incredible.
This kid's so fucking talented.
And he's in a high school...
Was it even high school?
No.
No, it was like a middle school.
tom green
And what was cool about the video was it was all girls listening in the background.
You could see the girls were into it.
joe rogan
They were crushing.
They were crushing on him.
tom green
That was cool.
joe rogan
They couldn't help themselves.
They were a little moistening while they were sitting up.
tom green
They were like 13. It was interesting.
joe rogan
This one girl was going, oh my god.
tom green
They couldn't believe it, you know?
That's sort of the...
joe rogan
That we have to play.
Play that, man.
Find that shit and play it.
We're not going to play the whole thing for people like, what is this, the fucking music show?
It's on LN. Yeah, you know what?
Fuck it.
tom green
Go find it yourself.
That's the dream in high school, though.
To get up on stage, say something or do something that everybody in the entire school is staring at you like Michael J. Fox in the Back to the Future playing the guitar on the stage like you're from outer space or something.
joe rogan
What a weird pressure that is for children to want to stand out like that.
That's got to be so strange for kids.
I don't remember the feeling myself, but if you wanted to be...
Some sort of an actor or something, and you were 10, and you were in school, and you saw some girl that was on a show, and she was 10, and you're like, what the fuck?
How come I can't be on that show?
tom green
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
That's a terrible way to be raising kids, thinking about getting the most attention possible for almost nothing, like instantaneously become famous.
So everything that your parents, all the character that gets developed from hard work, that's all nonsense.
I made it already.
unidentified
Bang!
joe rogan
Shut up.
14 and made it.
tom green
Yeah.
They put too much pressure on people, huh?
joe rogan
Look at Lindsay Lohan.
tom green
Especially in this day and age now where, yeah, you're seeing it.
It's in your face all the time, you know, man?
joe rogan
You could swear, dude.
tom green
All the fucking time, man.
They're shoving this shit down our fucking throats.
Okay.
joe rogan
It's true.
But we're shoving it down our own throats.
tom green
We don't have to get upset.
joe rogan
The strangest thing about Hollywood is that Hollywood's tricking the very people that make it.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, there's the grand conspiracy theory is that, like, man, you know, Hollywood is trying to condition us to be, like, subservient to our government, man, and be patriotic.
But no, Hollywood is giving you what you want to see.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hollywood's giving you what you want to see, and they're doing what they like, too.
They're making the kind of stupid shit that they like to watch.
tom green
yeah you know it's like the the people that are creating it are just as much of a victim of the the conditioning as the people that they're selling it to people don't realize that they think it's some grand scheme no supply and demand yeah people want to see uh sex tapes and then see the people go do shows and watch their lives and sort of see everything and know everything right do you watch uh jersey shore i i've I've only seen it once, but I enjoyed it a lot.
I laughed a lot watching the show.
I watched it for the first time.
Those guys are pretty funny too, right?
I've only seen it once.
joe rogan
They're hamming it up to the camera.
They're having a good time.
tom green
Yeah, you're watching people...
You're being voyeuristic into a completely different world.
unidentified
I'm so stuck with the hills, though, and everything like that.
I don't buy the Jersey Shore.
I almost think everything's fake now on MTV. Well, apparently it's all set up, but I don't care.
tom green
It's encouraging bad behavior.
joe rogan
Even if it's fake, it's like these people are like, wow.
You watch it, it's like watching a National Geographic special on some fucking tribe that they found in the jungle.
They don't even seem like humans.
But it's pretty funny, man.
And all they're trying to do is get their dick sucked in.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's really kind of funny because it's real.
I mean, that really is what that guy's doing.
He's just trying to fucking hit it every night.
Different girls all over the place.
He's showing you his abs and he's going to clubs and girls are going.
I mean, it's working.
It's working.
He's pulling it off and it's working.
tom green
I think the thing that's bizarre about all the reality TV, though, is not to overanalyze it.
I guess maybe I'd be overanalyzing it at that point.
We were talking about my broadcasting course.
They taught us about, you know, documentation and making documentary.
We had a documentary filmmaking course, and they talk about when you put a camera on something, right, it changes what you're filming, right?
So you can never really make a true documentary of anything, because as soon as you put the camera on it, it's going to change...
What's going on?
Like in this case, you put the camera on all these kids in the Jersey Shore, right?
And they're like, okay, we've got to go crazy for the camera.
So they go getting in fights.
joe rogan
That's true.
tom green
And then people are going to watch that, and it's going to get worse and worse.
And then people are going to have to get more fights.
People are going to have snuff film, television.
joe rogan
Nah, I don't think we'll ever get to that point.
People don't want to see that kind of negative stuff.
They want to be fascinated by closed doors.
tom green
Total recall.
unidentified
Faces of death.
joe rogan
They want the couple to make out and then close the door.
That's why they want it to stop.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's all fascinating to me, man, because it's so easy to change behavior by just putting a camera on it.
If that's really the case, if all you have to do is add a camera, add the fact that other people are going to get to see it and it changes everything, no, they're still doing this.
Even if they're faking it and acting it out, I don't care.
They're still doing all this stuff on the show.
And to me, look, it's like some sort of a National Geographic special.
It really is.
tom green
Yeah.
I want to watch it more.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can't help myself.
tom green
I have to watch it more.
So it really is.
They think they just get used to the camera and that's just the way they would be living life.
joe rogan
I grew up with people like that.
They're chimps.
They're chimps and they're everywhere.
There's a bunch of chimps out there with gold chains on.
They're just out there running around not giving a fuck about how the world works.
tom green
That's exactly what it's like in the Jersey Shore.
joe rogan
I knew dudes from back when I was in high school that did not give a fuck how the world works.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
All they wanted, they worked.
They were electricians.
They would work.
And then when they'd get off work, they'd want to get fucked up and go get laid.
And they didn't know anything.
They didn't know what was going on.
They had no idea.
Didn't give a fuck.
Didn't pay attention.
What am I going to do?
Am I going to follow fucking politics?
I'm going to go out and get my dick sucked.
Come on.
What am I going to do here?
What am I going to do?
Am I going to follow politics?
That shit ain't real, yo.
That shit ain't real.
I grew up with dudes like that, so when I see them putting cameras on people like that, I go, oh no.
They gave these savages a fucking camera?
They gave them airtime?
tom green
Actually, now I'm starting to...
I'm a little bit mad at myself that I haven't watched it more.
I think I've been withdrawing a little bit from television the last couple of years.
Purposely...
Not watching anything other than CNN, actually, is pretty well all I'd watch.
I don't even watch American Idol.
I watched American Idol because everybody watched it.
I don't watch that.
I don't watch that anymore.
joe rogan
I used to like watching the people suck in the beginning.
But then I'm like, what's wrong with you, you sick fuck?
You want to watch people fail?
I was like, how's that fun?
Every now and then you see one that's brilliant.
Well, guess what?
I'll find that one on YouTube.
Tell me some amazing thing like that Susan...
What was her name?
The one who really sang?
tom green
Yeah, Susan Boyle.
joe rogan
Boyle?
tom green
Susan Boyle?
Susan Boyle.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that was fascinating.
I mean, that was really incredible.
I mean, she had an amazing voice.
But how many hours do I have to sit through of bullshit before I get to that?
tom green
Yeah.
And it was the perfect moment, and it was just sort of the perfect, perfect thing that happened there.
You know, to me, the thing is, I used to like the beginning when they were, you know, fucking up, too, at the beginning, and they'd be making fools of themselves at the beginning.
But now it seems like the people coming in are coming in on purpose to be bad.
joe rogan
On purpose to fuck up.
tom green
Oh, you know, I don't know.
I can't watch that anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom green
And then the music all sucks on the radio now because it all comes out of that same thing, right?
It doesn't all suck, man.
It's all coming out of that same funnel.
It's like, oh, we got to do a really good Jefferson Airplane impression, you know?
joe rogan
You think so?
tom green
I can't stand the new music.
joe rogan
There's always good stuff, man.
You just got to find it.
There's just so much stuff.
tom green
Well, that's the problem.
See, I don't know how to find it.
I agree.
I know there is good stuff.
Because there is good stuff that I find and hear sometimes.
But just going through life now, like when you're walking, you're in an elevator, you're walking through a mall, or you're listening to the radio or the mainstream stuff, it's all this shit.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't listen to college radio anymore.
I don't know what the station is.
So I don't know how to find the cool underground stuff.
unidentified
Do you do Pandora at all?
tom green
Yeah, I do do that, but I don't know what to type into a search.
It's your favorite people.
You know when you're in school and stuff and you're around people, but I'm in my living room.
joe rogan
You know what really sucks, man?
The loss of the DJ. The loss of the DJ. The DJ to me is one of the things I miss the most about the radio, about growing up and listening to the radio.
I would listen to guys and listen to the shit that they liked to listen to.
They were cool guys.
Charles Laquadera was this guy who used to do the big mattress show on, I think it was WBCN. BCN or COZ, back in Boston.
And it was like this morning show where he would go on, and it was a comedy show, and they would fuck around, but he would play songs too.
And he played the shit that he wanted to hear.
tom green
Yeah, and you're like, that guy's funny.
I like that guy's point of view.
That's the music he likes.
joe rogan
There was this guy, Mark Parenteau.
Mark Parenteau was the afternoon DJ, and he was a big supporter of comedy, too.
He always did comedy competitions and shit.
And he would play the shit that he wanted to hear.
And you got a sense of, like, this cool guy likes this music.
He'd tell you why he likes this song, what's so badass about it, check it out.
Bam!
And he plays it, and it's like, that's a show.
That's a show.
What they're doing now is just...
Sticking all sorts of songs that they think they can get you to pay attention to together, and then they throw them in there.
There's no one personality behind it.
tom green
I don't think the radio DJs really have much of a choice in what they put on the air anymore.
joe rogan
No, they don't.
tom green
There's an art to that, man.
joe rogan
There's an art to being a true fan of the music and going out there and listening to different stuff and collecting your own favorites and saying, look at this cool shit that I got.
tom green
That's what I miss.
That's what I'm trying to say I miss.
Right there.
Because it's like now, you listen to the radio, it's all been focus group, tested out.
This is this.
This sounds like this.
This is the so-and-so from American Idol.
American Idol.
This sounds like American Idol.
This all sounds like a...
And it all sounds the same to me.
joe rogan
Brian and I have very similar tastes.
tom green
And I sound like an old guy now.
Now I sound like an old guy, right?
Because I just turned 39 years old.
I just turned 39. You don't sound like an old guy.
One year, from 40, and I'm starting to sound like my dad saying, none of the music today is good.
It's not like it was back when I was a kid.
joe rogan
Everybody says that.
But there's good stuff, you just have to find it.
It's just hard to do.
Brian and I have very similar tastes, and Brian is always finding me cool shit.
He's an internet fiend.
He's always connecting.
I always look forward to it.
New cool shit is fun, man.
There's a lot of it out there.
It's just there's so much to sift through.
There's so much data.
unidentified
Pandora helps me the most.
brian redban
Just being at a club and hearing a really good DJ, and I'll hook up the Shazam or whatever, and then that shit finds me some crazy stuff.
joe rogan
Shazam, if you don't know, if you don't have that program on your phone, it's the most incredible thing.
You wouldn't even believe it's real.
You hold your phone up to a speaker, Oh, yeah.
It plays the song, and it tells you what the song is, and it lets you buy it on your phone.
unidentified
SoundSnap actually lets you hum a song, so you'd be like...
joe rogan
I told that to Eddie, and he's like, that's impossible.
He's trying to tell me about music chords, and this and that, and that, and this.
I'm like, I'm telling you, they do it.
That's what it is.
unidentified
It's just waveforms.
That's what it does.
brian redban
It takes the song and makes it a waveform, like a picture, like a JPEG, and it just puts it in a database.
unidentified
Analyzes it.
brian redban
Yeah, analyzes it, and it's like matching fingerprints.
It's actually pretty brilliant how it works, and it's not that big of a deal.
joe rogan
It's pretty easy.
Are we even going to know when the computers take over?
Are we even going to know?
We're not even going to know.
They're going to take over so quick.
unidentified
It started with the TI-81, I think.
What are you doing, Dave?
tom green
It's real.
Remember Hal?
unidentified
Would you like to play a game?
joe rogan
Analyze it in seconds and tell you what the song is.
Listen to it, analyze it, break it down to a piece of data, and then spit it back at you with options to purchase it.
All in seconds.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they can do it for, you know, practically every fucking song there is out there.
I've never had it failing me once.
Have you ever had it failing you?
brian redban
Once, but it was also like a remix version, so it was other shit mixed up with it.
tom green
So this is just, you hear a song, you like it, you want to know what it is, you pull Shazam up, it tells you what it is, downloads it, and buys it for you without even asking you.
joe rogan
You can just start playing it in your car seconds later.
If your car's Bluetooth, bam, it's playing in your car.
tom green
That's amazing.
unidentified
I want Bum Bum Song.
tom green
Because it's like when I was doing my rap group back then when I was a teenager, back then it was all about sampling loops, right?
So you'd hear loops of music, breaks of music.
So we'd go into the radio station all the time, always looking for cool beat breaks and stuff.
So you'd hear that, you'd always hear stuff and you wouldn't know what it was, and you'd do that.
But let me ask you a question.
Can I ask you a question?
joe rogan
Please.
tom green
Okay, because I've noticed you have a lot of Buddhas around the house, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom green
Is that okay if I say that?
Sure.
Because I had a Buddha, and I really like them a lot.
I had one at my house.
When I got my house, it was there already.
I didn't get the Buddha.
The Buddha was there already.
It was a fountain.
It was on a pole.
It was a big fountain.
It was about the size of that poster there.
Big concrete fountain.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom green
And I had a meeting one day with a television executive at my house, okay?
And we went up on the roof of my house, and we had a meeting, just a discussion, having a beer, talking about some ideas, television ideas.
And we hear this enormous crash.
We go down, and the Buddha has just...
For whatever reason, the pole is on.
This metal pole is smashed.
It has fallen.
It has smashed into a million pieces and gone into my swimming pool.
And I'm looking at it and I'm just thinking, okay, apart from like I really missed the thing, is that a sign of something?
joe rogan
No.
tom green
Okay, good.
joe rogan
No, it's not.
unidentified
Buddha like swimming.
joe rogan
If it was a Donald Duck statue, it still would have fallen.
tom green
So it's just there's no magical property to having a Buddha in your house.
It's just a nice thing to look at.
joe rogan
I am fascinated by ancient Asian artwork.
I'm fascinated by Buddhas and Thai Buddhas and the fact that they've looked that way for hundreds and thousands of years and all these different people depict these things in different artistic ways and that the Buddha is a character of peace.
The idea of these Thai Buddhas to me means To me, it's a beautiful artistic representation of enlightenment.
tom green
It's calming, too, to look at it.
joe rogan
I love their artwork.
I love Shiva's.
I love Hindu artwork.
I love a lot of Thai artwork.
Some of the most fascinating stuff.
It's one of the coolest things about living in L.A. is that you have access to all these importers.
They import a lot of this beautiful hand-carved stuff from Thailand.
unidentified
Would you guys ever have a mummy?
Like a real mummy?
joe rogan
A mummy in my house?
Like a dead guy?
No, I'm not done with that.
unidentified
Would you?
joe rogan
No, this is morbid, man.
It's like, why?
I mean, I guess if you wanted to have it in glass, like in a room somewhere and shit.
tom green
It would stink, too.
It's a weird...
joe rogan
It's a weird message you're sending.
tom green
I just don't like the smell of embalming fluid.
unidentified
What if it was airtight and it had lights?
tom green
It's something that's always bothered me.
Embalming fluid, the smell of that?
joe rogan
Have you ever heard of self-mummification?
No.
Self-mummification was a practice and it's been done several times by these monks.
And one of the things they do is they eat nothing but very, very lean foods.
They eat, like, seeds and nuts, and they go through rigorous exercise routines for, like, three years, where they virtually strip their body of all its fat.
And then they start drinking this crazy tonic that's, like, semi-poisonous.
It doesn't kill them, but it fucks them up nice and slowly.
And it keeps maggots from growing on them.
Get this.
Then they climb into a sarcophagus after they've done this for a while, so their body's, like, ready to go.
They climb into a sarcophagus, and they close the lid on them, and there's just an air hole and a bell.
And the guy stays in the lotus position.
tom green
It's like that new movie with the...
joe rogan
He stays in the lotus position with the air hole and the bell, and every day, if he's alive, he rings the bell.
And the day that he doesn't ring the bell, they seal the coffin up, and then he's in there for good, and he's mummified.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Self-mummification.
tom green
Why do they do that now?
joe rogan
Because they're fucking nuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom green
Where are these guys?
Are they still doing this today?
joe rogan
Is this legal?
Is there self-mummification porn?
Whose laws?
Whose laws?
tom green
Yeah, where are they doing it?
joe rogan
I believe it's in Tibet that they do this.
This is outrageous.
tom green
You should actually stop this.
unidentified
Is there a video?
joe rogan
I don't know.
tom green
Start a campaign to stop this crap.
joe rogan
Brian, why don't you Google self-mummification?
I'm going to start.
Because I know that it's something that has been done.
They have these mummies, man, and they've taken the lids off their sarcophaguses.
In the lotus position, man, with their fucking robes on and their mummies.
It is the creepiest thing ever.
tom green
That's dedication to whatever it is that you're doing it for.
joe rogan
Fuck, they're taking it to the next level, man.
tom green
Total dedication.
joe rogan
They're poisoning the maggots, okay?
How about that?
They're taking some shit that kills the maggots.
Now, by the way, I'm reading this on the internet.
Who knows how much of this is true.
brian redban
It says it's a form of suicide.
joe rogan
A slow suicide.
It takes years, man.
tom green
There is a lot of stuff on the internet that we read that is not true, and that is true.
Now, you were talking about the UFOs last night at your show, which was hilarious, by the way, and it was great running into you over there.
joe rogan
Yeah, we ran into each other at a club.
Jay Davis is doing this little club.
What was it called?
The Parlor?
tom green
The Parlor, yeah.
joe rogan
On Melrose.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
So, fun, nice little place, but the AC was out.
It was whack.
It was a really cool crowd, because even though it was like a fucking 100 degrees in there, like literally, it was at least 100 degrees in a row.
brian redban
I fucking drank like crazy because I was so hot.
joe rogan
The crowd was very polite.
I felt like I was imposing.
Talking to them, I felt bad.
I felt like I was doing something by making them sit there and watch me.
tom green
No, no, no.
It was hilarious.
It was awesome.
It was a great surprise.
I didn't know you were coming out.
We haven't seen each other in a couple years.
I have a bunch of questions I want to ask you, I've started trying to do stand-up comedy this year.
I've been doing it this year.
joe rogan
You have been doing it.
I have been doing it.
I laughed at some of your stuff online.
unidentified
I've been doing it.
tom green
I've been going all over the world.
joe rogan
I laughed at some clips.
tom green
I'm not trying to do it.
I'm doing it, goddammit.
joe rogan
You are doing it.
I'm sorry.
tom green
No, I said that.
joe rogan
I'm sorry for you.
tom green
No, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's a whole new world, isn't it?
Yeah.
But I want to ask you some questions about that.
Okay.
But yeah, so I'll ask you right now, I guess.
joe rogan
Go for it.
tom green
Or we can talk a bit more about the show last night.
joe rogan
Well, the show last night was a lot of fun.
tom green
It was fun, yeah.
joe rogan
Bill Burr went up and did a bunch of new shit.
Oh, and Bill Burr's Comedy Central special airs again this October 1st, I believe it is.
Fucking hilarious, Dave.
Very fun.
If you haven't seen it, check it out, and it'll be good for him, too.
He really wants to get ratings on this thing because he wants to do more of them.
If you're a fan of stand-up comedy, Bill Burr is one of the best.
He's one of the best guys out there today.
There's very few guys that consistently nail it the way he does.
He's really good.
He's a really, really good comic.
tom green
I went down there to see Bill last night because I met him at the Montreal Comedy Festival.
This is what's been fun about doing stand-up is I'm getting to go to a comedy festival and hang out with a bunch of funny people.
Everyone's having a good time.
I saw Doug Stanhope up at the Montreal Comedy Festival.
He had this awesome party in a car wash.
It was like good times.
joe rogan
Well, he calls it Just for Spite, and he does it opposing the actual – Right, right.
tom green
He needs a camera man.
Right, that's right.
He's not part of the festival.
unidentified
He needs a red band.
tom green
And this was this whole sort of controversial thing that was going on up there, but it was actually quite funny because he had this amazing party in this car wash right across the street.
joe rogan
Was it really great?
tom green
Yeah, it was really cool.
joe rogan
What was it like?
tom green
Well, it's because the bar closed, right?
And then it's like, okay, well, the bar at the hotel closed, and then everyone said, well, you know, Doug Stanhope's having a party in a car wash across the street.
What?
And we walk out across the street, and now it's, you know, three in the morning now, right?
So those bars are closed.
We walk across, literally right across the street from the hotel, the main hotel for the festival.
There's this...
Like the smallest car wash, you know, it's got the garage, hoses everywhere.
Anyway, it's just, you know, buckets of beer, and we were there until like 7 in the morning or something like that.
unidentified
Wow, that's awesome.
tom green
Lots of people, a couple hundred people in there in this car wash drinking beer.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
So he just put together a party.
tom green
Yeah, it was really good.
joe rogan
Awesome move.
But what happens if people drive drunk and stuff?
unidentified
I don't think any of them drive.
I think they're all taxis and stuff.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a nice move.
tom green
You know, the thing that's cool about it is, like, you know, so we go over there, I'm at the Montreal Comedy Festival, and I met Bill Burr, and he came and saw my show, and then last night I thought, you know, I'm going to go see Bill's show, go see Bill's show, you pop out on stage unexpectedly, next thing you know, I'm up here at your house, we're drinking cups of coffee, delicious coffee, and doing some Webbovision here, right?
It's pretty cool.
joe rogan
It is cool.
tom green
We've talked on Twitter a couple of times.
I've said, hey, Joe, check this out.
I'm on the road.
I sent you a couple of my trailers from my stand-up.
joe rogan
Very funny stuff, man.
tom green
You can see them on TomGreen.com.
Go on TomGreen.com.
Have a look at some of the trailers of the touring around doing this.
joe rogan
And for the folks on iTunes, it's Tom Green Live if you want to find him on Twitter.
Go at TomGreenLive because they can't see this where it says it on the...
unidentified
Absolutely.
tom green
At TomGreenLive is my Twitter.
brian redban
Are you still releasing that movie?
tom green
Yeah.
unidentified
Pranksters?
Yeah.
tom green
Prankster, yeah.
We're working on that one still.
unidentified
Cool.
joe rogan
I can't wait for that, man.
What is Pranksters about?
unidentified
I've been waiting.
tom green
Well, it's kind of a top secret.
It's not finished.
joe rogan
Okay.
tom green
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Well, I have to tell you.
tom green
I can't really tell you what it's about because I'm not sure I even know yet because we're still kind of in the process of finishing it.
unidentified
Cool, cool, cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, I want you to do more movies, man.
I really enjoyed Freddy Got Fingered.
tom green
It was hilarious.
joe rogan
You went out there with that, man.
You took a crazy chance.
I think it shocked a lot of people.
They didn't know what to do with it because it was so out there.
It was one of the ultimate stoner movies.
If you're a stoner, go get Freddy.
A lot of people haven't really heard enough good reviews of it.
tom green
It's really fucking funny.
unidentified
I didn't hit a girl that just quoted that all day.
joe rogan
Dude, that scene with the baby, the giving birth, it's fucking...
I don't want to say any more.
I don't want to ruin it.
I don't want to ruin it at all.
tom green
Sort of very similar in a way to your comedy background.
No, well, let me tell you.
Thank you for saying that.
joe rogan
It's really funny.
tom green
Because the thing is, you know, when you get thrust into the situation where all of a sudden I had an opportunity to make a movie.
You know, I wrote it.
It obviously was trying to make the stupidest movie we could think of, right?
Let's make it the stupidest thing ever.
And then, you know, the studio...
At the time, I had all this opportunity to make this.
They said, okay, they had all these directors.
I said, I want to direct it, too.
So then they let me direct it.
So now I'm swinging bloody babies around and jacking off elephants and stuff and getting inside deer carcasses and doing all this stuff, right?
And then you're working on this thing for like a year, right?
You're working on this thing for a year, nonstop.
You're casting it.
You're picking all the props.
You're making sure, oh, the guts that come out of that deer carcass look like rubber to me.
And then the prop guy's like, well, we're going to put some blood on it.
And I go, well, let's see what that looks like.
And they do it, and you look at it, and you're like, no, it still looks like some rubber.
We've got to get some real guts.
And they're like, well, we don't know how we're going to make real guts come out of the carcass when you cut it.
And then they go off, and these are like...
People that are professionals, you know, and they go off and they come back the next day and they go, okay, we've rigged up this compressed air that we're going to put in the back of the taxidermy deer.
You're going to run your knife down the slit.
It's going to shoot out real pig guts that we've got at the butcher shop.
And I'm draped in pig guts and I'm doing all this stuff.
You're doing all this stuff, right?
And you're thinking, okay, this is crazy.
This is going to look crazy.
Then the movie comes out.
Everybody basically reams you like you've never been reamed before in your life at this point.
I mean, local papers and people.
And you feel completely kind of confused about it, right?
Because you're thinking...
Shit, I thought it was pretty fucking funny.
I don't know what's wrong with me, right?
But the fun thing about it is after that initial weekend and the whole sort of everybody talking about your movie being crazy and disgusting and all this stuff, I've been on tour this year doing stand-up, and it's been so much fun because there's a lot of nutjobs out there in the world that and it's been so much fun because there's a lot of nutjobs out And it's part of my show now when I do my stand-up.
I do a little guitar at my show in the middle, and I sing a couple.
Like, Daddy, would you like some sausage?
I sing that with the – everybody sings it with me.
And then people start shouting out some of their favorite bits.
But I'm surprised.
I went all across Australia, Canada next month.
I'm going to be in Toronto, Belleville, Hamilton, and London, Ontario.
And people come to the shows and are shouting out all these things from Freddy Got Fingered.
joe rogan
That's awesome, man.
tom green
It feels a lot...
I guess what I'm saying is, thanks for bringing it up.
joe rogan
Well, this is what I think.
tom green
It feels so great to be out and actually getting all this positive feedback about the movie.
Because I was made to feel like I had murdered somebody or something like that.
joe rogan
No, this is what I think, man.
unidentified
No way.
joe rogan
I think you were a victim of a pre-internet review system.
It was a bunch of fogey old douchebags.
And, you know, the way people looked at things was, you know, you couldn't just...
What year was Freddy Got Fingered?
tom green
It was 2001. Who the fuck was on the internet back then?
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
It wasn't the same as 2010. 2010, you get your reviews from ain'titcool.news.com, like that kind of shit.
Like, I always go to Fandango or something.
I get my reviews online.
tom green
I want to use this moment as a real opportunity for me to actually talk about this for a second, okay?
I directed this movie.
I wrote this whole thing.
Everybody freaks out on it.
It's pre-internet, right?
The other day, I went and I looked at Netflix, okay, at the reviews of the movies, right?
So I did this just two days ago, and I looked at the reviews, and Freddy got fingered.
And the point of making that movie was to kind of like be polarizing, right?
It was supposed to...
joe rogan
Be ridiculous.
tom green
It was done in a way where I think that 50% of the people who watch it are definitely going to hate it more than anything they've ever seen in their entire life.
joe rogan
Right.
tom green
And that was the goal in the joke.
unidentified
Of course.
tom green
Because obviously the other 50% of the people are laughing at the 50% of the people that hate it.
And that's the joke, right?
So I went on Netflix and you're reading the reviews and it's It's pretty much 50-50 people are giving it either a good review or the worst review you've ever read in your life, back and forth, back and forth.
And these people are just arguing with each other about it.
Here we are 10 years later after I made this thing.
I'm looking at these people having these passionate arguments completely on opposite ends of the spectrum.
That's pretty funny.
Go read the reviews on Netflix.
joe rogan
I really truly believe that if that movie came out today, it would be an internet phenomenon.
People would be so into it.
I think it was a fucking fun, crazy movie.
tom green
Make it 3D. Well, I'm hoping to make another movie this year.
Since you asked about the movies, I'm hoping to make another movie this year, which is going to be called Insane Prank Movie.
And it's going to be just a bunch of crazy pranks, street stuff, but it's going to be sort of a...
joe rogan
Well, don't get beat up, man.
You're telling me you're getting in fights.
What's going on?
tom green
Oh, yes.
That's right.
I've been in two fights.
joe rogan
You're a grown man.
tom green
Carry around a bow and arrow.
I was defending myself both times.
joe rogan
What happened?
tom green
I was attacked both times.
joe rogan
By who?
tom green
By strangers.
joe rogan
For what reason?
tom green
Well, the first time, I was attacked.
joe rogan
Where did this take place?
tom green
It was about two years ago in New York City.
joe rogan
Did the guy know you were Tom Green, the famous actor and comedian?
tom green
I don't know.
He was somebody who was an acquaintance of somebody who I knew.
Now I'm starting to get worried about getting into the details, because what really happened was quite intense.
Quite intense.
joe rogan
Why are you worried about getting into the details?
tom green
Well, because, you know, I don't know.
I'm just thinking now, all of a sudden, I've never really talked about this on the radio.
Isn't that kind of weird?
What's weird when you get in a fight with someone...
joe rogan
Did you beat somebody up, Tom Green?
tom green
No, I was punched in the head, and I retaliated.
joe rogan
Right.
And then did you whoop that ass?
tom green
You know...
joe rogan
Did you get all up in there?
Beat that ass?
tom green
Essentially, yes.
Essentially, yes.
joe rogan
Yes.
tom green
I was not hurt.
joe rogan
You probably shouldn't give out the details, because...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You might get sued.
You're Tom Green.
tom green
Well, you know, somebody punched me in the head, and so I had to...
joe rogan
So you think you have a solid chin?
tom green
Kind of thing.
joe rogan
Fairly solid jaw.
Take a good shot.
tom green
Right there.
Right there.
I had a bump the next day.
joe rogan
Did you gray out, or did you stand your ground?
tom green
I was actually sitting down.
joe rogan
He punched you when you were sitting down?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
Wow.
joe rogan
What did you do?
Were you getting blown by his girlfriend while you were sitting there?
tom green
I was sitting beside his girlfriend.
joe rogan
You were?
tom green
Yeah, or some girl that he knew.
But I wasn't really, you know, I was also with a girl who was my friend who was sitting beside me on this side and we were all friends and Or she was friends with them.
But anyways, this is the point.
Let's move past that.
The point is...
joe rogan
You got in fights.
tom green
I got in fights.
So then the second time around...
joe rogan
You're a veteran by now.
You're ready to throw it down.
tom green
And this is actually something I can ask you about for advice on this.
Because this is about controlling your temper.
This is about when somebody comes at you and you are a fighter, so you know about this stuff.
I don't know about this stuff.
What happened?
You go into this sort of post-traumatic stress disorder kind of.
Everything goes in slow motion.
joe rogan
Well, you know, that's one of the best things about learning martial arts is that you become confident in your ability to defend yourself.
You might not always be able to defend yourself.
There might be guns and weapons, but you're not going to feel completely helpless.
You're going to feel like you have at least confidence if you have a chance you can do something.
Whereas a person who doesn't know how to fight at all and has no experience, it's such a paralyzing feeling when you're in the presence of violence.
You just want to cover up in a ball.
You just want to try to protect yourself.
You don't know what to do.
tom green
So this first occasion happened...
joe rogan
That's a bad feeling.
tom green
This first occasion happened, cut to three months, maybe six months later, I'm walking down Sunset, outside Mel's Diner.
joe rogan
Just got the stitches taken out.
tom green
Yeah.
And somehow...
For some reason, somebody comes up behind me.
I think I'd actually had a few drinks that night.
Me and my friends were being somewhat obnoxious, talking loudly, being generally idiots on the street.
And some guy saw me being kind of an idiot and came walking up to me and my friend.
joe rogan
That was Brian, by the way.
tom green
And he said, hey man, I want to kick your ass right now.
Just like that.
No reason.
He said, I'm going to kick your ass right now.
This guy was actually...
Smaller than me, which I thought was strange, and he's coming out of nowhere, and we're in the dark, and there's no one around.
Right by Paquito Moss, outside Mel's Diner on Sunset.
I look at him, my friend looks at him, my friend says, are you serious, dude?
And he goes, yeah.
And then my friend, for whatever reason, goes, okay, and goes like that.
So then this guy's running at me, but because of the previous...
I'm now in the slow-motion mode.
He's coming at me and I'm going, well, this is not going to...
So I went at him and I just put my...
Hands on his neck, right?
And I put my hand behind him, and I kind of lowered him down onto the ground, and I put my fist up in his face like this, and I said, I don't want to hurt you, man.
I don't want to hurt you.
I don't want to hurt you.
And his leg was kind of flapping up on the side of my body like this, and I had him pinned on his back on the sidewalk, and he said, okay, man, okay.
And I got up, and he walked away.
unidentified
Wow.
tom green
So then...
joe rogan
Powerful rape choke to the mount position, for those of you who don't know what Tom Green was doing.
He was grabbing the hand and the, bitch, where's my money grip?
And then he had a fist up.
tom green
Yeah.
And it just kind of ended.
It diffused the situation.
Nobody got hurt.
And, you know...
That's, I think, something that people need to know.
There is this flash of a moment when somebody attacks you, where you kind of go into this animal mode, right?
You're not in complete control, right?
And then you've got to kind of be able to control that a little bit.
brian redban
So now are you paranoid that everyone's going to attack you?
tom green
No, I'm actually less paranoid now, because I now know I've got that sort of...
Well, the other thing is that only worked because he was coming at me fast and he was sort of smaller than me.
I don't think that would have worked if he was bigger than me.
joe rogan
I don't think that would have worked if he knew anything.
If he knew anything, that wouldn't have worked.
unidentified
Did you fight a lot growing up?
tom green
He was probably really, really drunk.
To me, it was exciting, though, because I haven't been in any sort of physical altercation since I was a kid.
joe rogan
You don't want that kind of excitement.
If you want that kind of excitement, go to a jiu-jitsu class.
Learn jiu-jitsu.
You get to spar.
You get to go full blast with each other and try to kill each other with your bare hands.
It's awesome.
You get all that shit out, and you don't have to get in fights.
unidentified
It was scary.
It was scary.
It was there on your belt.
joe rogan
Look, conflict is fine.
tom green
I was attacked.
joe rogan
There's a certain amount of excitement, primal excitement that comes from conflict, but it's very dangerous, man.
tom green
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
Especially when you're adding alcohol, you guys are walking down the street making a fuckload of noise.
tom green
No, this is the thing.
I've become so paranoid about it since then that I've actually kind of essentially really laid off the sauce a bit.
unidentified
Right.
tom green
Because I realized that, you know, although...
I didn't really kind of...
I got attacked, right?
But it was due to my own sort of loud, obnoxious behavior.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
You learn from that, right?
tom green
Yeah, you do.
joe rogan
Public drunkenness is one of the douchiest things you can do if you're really loud out in public.
That's a douchey thing.
tom green
When you're in your 20s, being drunk out at the bar and being crazy...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's part of life.
unidentified
That's acceptable.
joe rogan
It's part of life.
tom green
But I just turned 39 years old, and I'm thinking to myself, that's not cute anymore, really.
unidentified
Totally.
tom green
It's not cute anymore.
joe rogan
It's not cute when it annoys other people.
That's what it is.
And I never used to think about that when I was younger.
I just think about, we're having fun, fuck it, woo!
We're having fun, who gives a shit?
And then as you get older, you start going, wait a minute, but if we're having fun at other people's expense, this shouldn't be fun.
This should be annoying to me, too.
I should be embarrassed.
Yeah.
So you learn not to be a douchebag.
tom green
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
And you've got this move that you're ready to go to.
I think you might want to...
I'm going to show you...
We'll go into my cage in the garage and I'll show you some counters to that move.
tom green
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Be very careful.
tom green
I would appreciate some self-defense.
Not that I want to ever have to use it.
joe rogan
You don't want to extend your arm.
You've got to make sure you...
tom green
Do it correctly.
I'd like to take some jiu-jitsu courses.
joe rogan
Why don't you take Krav Maga's fun, too?
It's like a combination of things.
They give you a lot of stuff like, this is what you do on the street when a guy comes after you, but you can't prepare for everything on the street.
You don't really know what the fuck, if a guy's going to have a gun or a knife.
You're not going to really know.
You're better off just getting really good at any sort of a martial art.
You're really going to get good at knife defense?
unidentified
That's...
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
That seems like a waste of time.
tom green
Yeah.
Just considering no one's ever pulled a knife on you in your life.
joe rogan
Stay away from douchebags.
Keep your life clean.
Let's hope we don't get stabbed.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't be going out.
Practice every day because one day a guy's going to have a knife.
There's this fat guy who has this website on...
All sorts of attacks, like a knife against a knife, how he will block this knife, and then he will attack.
I mean, he's a fat fuck.
The guy's hilarious.
He's completely out of shape.
He's actually kind of a half-decent writer, but totally, completely delusional martial arts guy.
And so he's got these instructional videos where a guy will come at him with a knife.
And he will block this knife and cut to the guy's body and then go behind him and he cuts like major organs.
And I'm looking and I'm like, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my life.
You're preparing for a knife fight that never happened.
tom green
Probably because of the preparing for it is increasing his odds of being killed in a knife fight by like 10,000%.
joe rogan
He's carrying knives on him everywhere.
tom green
He's asking for a knife fight.
He's begging for a knife fight.
joe rogan
He's just nuts.
Who the fuck's wasting their life preparing for knife fights?
tom green
This is funny.
Sometimes I look down here at the stream and then I see you and I'm thinking that I'm looking at you live, but it's just a short delay.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's not look at it because I don't want to confuse you.
tom green
It was funny.
It was confusing me.
joe rogan
Comedians, man, they'll go off in a drift.
tom green
Yeah, it was like I was looking at your laughing over there and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm not saying anything funny right now.
Oh, wait, he's not laughing.
That was a few seconds ago.
joe rogan
We're on a delay in case you start getting crazy and curse our government.
tom green
Yeah, this is cool.
And now, so we're broadcasting on iTunes?
joe rogan
It's on iTunes.
It's on the Zune marketplace.
It's on all sorts of different things.
tom green
Oh, this is cool.
This is cool.
Now, so yeah, so...
joe rogan
Stitcher.
brian redban
Number one in Canada, comedy a few times on iTunes.
tom green
Okay.
See, this is something that I'm just...
joe rogan
Powerful, Canada.
tom green
I'm going to start trying to do a podcast myself for the first time starting next week, so it's going to be fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
You've always been in that kind of community access channel.
unidentified
You were always making videos.
brian redban
You actually changed everything when you had your show on MTV, in my opinion.
My whole age group, I'm 36, but you took my idea of making stupid little videos and going, wow, look what he's doing.
He's actually doing it for realsies on MTV. You really changed that whole market.
It's a pretty amazing career that you've had, man.
tom green
That was an exciting time.
Obviously, that was the most exciting time.
joe rogan
Watch this blow, Brian.
tom green
Yeah.
You know?
Maybe we wait until the show's over.
joe rogan
That's one of the most awkward things ever when you say something.
tom green
Out in the driveway or something like that?
joe rogan
Like when Doug's down, I was here.
I was trying to say really good things about him.
But I'm like, it's so weird saying that.
He's right here and it's going to be broadcasting in front of the world.
tom green
What a great show, though.
You come up to Joe's house.
You get coffee.
You get a blowjob.
unidentified
I think a lot of people, though.
I think you've inspired a lot of people, man.
joe rogan
You were one of my inspirations.
You inspired me to do this, man.
To do this online.
When I came over to your house, I'm like, wow.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tom green
I remember how excited you were about it and you talked to the...
There was a document or...
Was it Entertainment Tonight Canada or somebody was at the house?
unidentified
Something like that.
tom green
And you said you were very excited about it and I thought, well, this is cool.
Maybe this is not a waste of time doing the show in my living room.
Joe seems to like it.
joe rogan
We knew that eventually it was going to get to the point where the internet and the television combined.
It hasn't totally happened yet.
Convergence.
But it's pretty close.
Convergence.
It's a small, a dribble.
I have a DVD player that lets you go to different sources and get movies, Netflix, and even YouTube.
It allows you to go to YouTube as well.
Ustream.
Ustream.
I don't know about Ustream.
I thought you said Ustream.
No, I think I was wrong.
I think it was YouTube.
But it's just, it's close, you know?
You can get, the internet is bringing content to your television.
It's just doing it through outside parties now.
It's not quite as accessible as I would think it would be.
tom green
Yeah, I worry that it's going to get all controlled so that, you know, you end up, everyone gets some box, they're watching the internet on their TV, but it's not the real internet, you know?
It's just the stuff that the shows that get bought by Time Warner Cable and they decide to put on the internet, which then all of a sudden you don't have the internet.
You have this sort of just other way of distributing television that's on demand, but it's not free.
Net neutrality.
We need to make sure that – and I don't know a whole lot about it, but I was talking about this the other day with my friend, and he said net neutrality is a big issue right now.
joe rogan
They're talking about – Well, since you're in Hollywood, since we don't know a lot about it, let's argue about it.
tom green
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
Since neither one of us know the points.
tom green
Yeah, so I just think that we gotta fucking stop this, man.
joe rogan
That's how we rock it here in Hollywood.
Just argue about shit we don't even know about.
tom green
Well, you know, that's...
joe rogan
I was on stage, and some fucking guy in the audience just decided he was gonna heckle, and this is what he heckled.
He goes, even Stephen Hawking said that the universe proves there must be a god.
Like, he was arguing with me, angry at me, and this is what he was saying.
tom green
And then Stephen Hawking came out last week.
joe rogan
But that's not what Stephen Hawking said.
tom green
Stephen Hawking came out two weeks ago and said that there is no God.
joe rogan
Exactly.
So I'm like, dude, you didn't even read it.
You didn't even read it, and you're arguing it.
You're yelling it out publicly.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's LA. That's my point.
That's Los Angeles.
If you don't know anything about anything, just argue it.
Not only did he argue it, he yelled it out.
I don't even know what I was talking about.
I forgot because it was so ridiculous what he said.
But he yelled it out from the side of the stage.
It was an important point for him.
unidentified
Did you have a conversation with him about it?
joe rogan
Very little.
I talked to him a little bit from the stage.
I tried to be nice and just segued into the rest of the show.
But he just wanted to...
It was a weird thing.
He was a guy that just wanted to argue like it was a game.
He wanted to play catch with me.
unidentified
Have you noticed a lot more heckling, Joe, lately?
joe rogan
No, no, not lately.
It comes and goes.
There's cool crowds and not-so-cool crowds.
And the crowds are always cool.
There's just always a few douchebags, a tiny few amount of douchebags.
But that's all you need.
If you have 300 people in a comedy club, all you need is three douchebags and you've got an issue.
You have to deal with one douchebag and you've got an issue.
tom green
Do you like that?
joe rogan
No, I would way rather have just a fun show.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like in Indianapolis.
tom green
Stressful when they start yelling and stuff.
joe rogan
I did two shows in Indianapolis last Friday.
Never been to Indianapolis for comedy before.
It was fucking great, man.
The crowds were super cool, dude.
Everybody's super friendly and fun.
It's a nice, easy-going place.
And it's a decent-sized city.
It's a million four, a million four hundred thousand people.
So it's not a small town.
And just really fucking cool, friendly people.
I like that, man.
I don't want to deal with some fucking douchebags who need attention.
That's annoying, man.
I want to tell you, man.
I want to pull them aside and take them away from everybody and go, dude, just get your shit together, man.
You see what you're doing?
You're out of control.
You're so needy for attention that you're willing to disrupt everything around you.
tom green
I've started to notice them before they even say anything.
They often sit right at the front.
joe rogan
Of course.
tom green
They like to sit right there where everyone can see them.
And you can tell that these sort of alpha personality types who just want everybody to look at them.
I mean, come on.
What's their problem?
You know what's the weirdest thing?
When people talk back It's like, you know, if you want to, why don't you just go do comedy, you know, and go do your own show, you know?
joe rogan
No, they don't want to do that.
They want to criticize.
It's like critics.
These critics that hated your fucking movie, go make a better movie.
Well, they're not going to make a better movie.
They have nothing to contribute.
They're contributing.
They're doing their best to be verbose in their bitchiness.
And that's what their contribution is.
Be cunty about things.
Always look for the negative.
Love everything foreign.
I mean, that's really what it is.
tom green
It's also even when they yell out fun stuff, it's sort of annoying too, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, the worst I was saying was when they talk to you.
tom green
I think some people think they're trying to help you or something.
joe rogan
The worst is when they talk to you.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
You ever have people in the front row and they just talk at you?
Like, why would you do that?
tom green
Yeah.
Usually wasted.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom green
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I'm going to get to it.
I'm going to get to the whole subject.
tom green
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, don't move me in a different direction.
Come on, man.
Where were you going?
Why are you talking to me, man?
This isn't a conversation.
It's a fucking comedy show.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
I always give people the opportunity to yell shit out, though.
I do a Q&A at almost every one of my shows, just because it's fun.
Sometimes it's anticlimactic.
It's dangerous because sometimes it drags on, and I do the Q&A for like a fucking hour or something, and I don't know how to end, because it's so open-ended.
But I think people like fucking around and being able to talk to me, so I let them know.
Like, well, there'll be a time where we can yell shit out, but it's not, let me get my material out, do all this, and then we'll fuck around.
tom green
Yeah, that's a good idea.
It's fun.
joe rogan
The best is when there's lines and microphones.
That's how I did it when I recorded my DVD. That's the best way to do it.
Have a line and people come up to the line and they get to the microphone.
tom green
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, because when they just yell shit out, it just gets too crazy.
tom green
Right.
unidentified
Right, Brian?
I was just going to say, let's see you guys' name.
Like, you know, like, talk about J.S.P. Talk about Anderson Silva.
We think about J.L. Sutton's chances in the rematch.
joe rogan
What should you have done different?
tom green
Now, because you have stuff out on TV, people yell you to do bits that you've done before.
joe rogan
I can't remember a lot of them, though.
The problem is, when I stopped doing a bit, man, I don't remember how to do it.
Like, somebody yelled out, do the talking dog bit the other day, the drug commercial bit, and I was like, fuck.
How does that go?
I haven't done it in a long time, so I had to try to perform it from memory.
I always try to come up with new shit.
When you have new shit, you've got to abandon the old shit.
You can't keep remembering it.
Every now and then, one will pop up from the old days.
I'll remember one.
I'm like, wow, I remember how this one goes.
But in order to keep writing new material, I've had...
Right now, the first one was I'm Gonna Be Dead Someday, and then there was the Showtime special that I did.
No, then there was Belly of the Beast, then the Showtime special in 2005, and then Shiny Happy Jihad.
And then Talking Monkeys in Space, that's a lot of different material.
I can't remember all that shit.
tom green
Yeah.
You ever just pop in the DVD and watch your show?
joe rogan
No, I don't like that.
tom green
That'd be good to get it back in your head that way, though.
joe rogan
It's uncomfortable for me to watch the stuff that I've just done recently.
It's really uncomfortable for me to watch something from a few years ago.
unidentified
Dude, while you're fucking a flashlight might help.
joe rogan
Whoa, what are you saying?
unidentified
How dare you?
tom green
Yeah, well, and it's like when you were playing that song earlier, I was sort of sitting here kind of curling up inside my shoes, you know, because it's like you're looking at something from 20 years ago, and you're going, oh, geez, I wouldn't really do it exactly that way.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know what you mean.
tom green
The way I'm rapping, trying to sound like Chuck D, you know, it's like, that's kind of cheesy, you know?
joe rogan
But it's capturing, somebody said this to me once, that, you know, you just have to think of all these performances as capturing a moment in time, you know, and just, but I don't, you know, that's all well and good, and I appreciate that, but I don't want to, it's still me.
I don't really want to watch me from 15 years ago do comedy.
It's not fun.
I don't like me from five years ago doing it.
It's hard watching yourself, man.
When you're very critical and honest, it's hard.
It's hard trying to figure out how much of this...
Should I be trying to enjoy this?
Should I be trying to enjoy it like a spectator?
Or should I be hypercritical of everything I'm doing?
Because that's what I always wind up doing.
So I prefer not watching myself, but you have to go over material, I think.
You listen to bits and sometimes your brain will take you down different paths.
Like you go, oh, why didn't I say this?
Or why didn't I talk about that?
Or you remember certain taglines that you may have ad-libbed at the moment, which may be gone if you don't remember them.
There's a lot of my best taglines.
I forget them.
I just stop doing it for some reason, and then I forget it.
And then someone will say to you, like, why don't you say that anymore?
I'm like, oh, fuck, I forgot.
tom green
Do you have it all written down somewhere?
joe rogan
Most of it.
Yeah, most of the material is written down.
The way I start off almost all of my bits is I start them off with blog entries.
Whether or not it gets posted on the internet, almost all of it is just me dissecting a subject.
This is the method that I've come to over the last few years.
To me it's the best method because it allows me to really examine all the different ways I think about a subject without worrying about people's attention spans.
So I just write, you know, and it could be page after page after page, just ramblings on what I think about anything.
And then I dissect what's funny about it.
Like, this is funny, this is funny, this is funny.
And then I say, well, how much this would go into a bit?
Could this be a bit?
Okay, this could be a bit right here.
This is how I'd have to say it.
And then I look at it like that, like I'm stealing from myself.
Like I'm stealing little jokes.
tom green
And you're getting feedback, too, on the internet, right?
People read it on your blog?
joe rogan
Yeah, I do, yeah.
If I post it.
But there's a lot of stuff that I write that I don't post.
There's a lot of stuff that I write.
I write it as if it was going to be a blog entry, and then it just winds up going in a file.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I don't like where I was going with it or I wasn't finished with it, but I do like this part and that part will become a bit.
tom green
Do you think of your ideas when you sit down to write or is it when you're out and about with friends hanging out?
It's both.
joe rogan
It's everything.
I think you get different kinds of creativity just from driving in your car with the music off.
If you have your stereo off and you just drive in your car and don't talk to anybody, just doing that, doing average everyday things.
A percentage of your brain, you know, you're going to focus on what you're doing, you're going to focus on activity, but you're going to get bored.
Your brain is going to get bored, which is driving.
So your brain is going to start thinking about things.
So a percentage of your brain will start coming up with ideas, and you'll start pondering things and questioning relationships, and you start breaking down your life while you're driving with no stereo on.
You know, when you've got the music on, you listen to that, and then you're off in no thinking land.
That's one of the most dangerous things about the media.
Is the fact that it's so pervasive and it's so easy to get to and it's so easy to just sit there and watch and just get sucked into it and never think at all.
tom green
I know.
I've been addicted to the 24-hour news cycle in this last few years and it just drives me nuts.
unidentified
How much news a day do you watch?
tom green
Well, it's just on in the background, so it's like I'm at the computer, but it's on in the background.
unidentified
Do you sleep till news?
tom green
No, no.
unidentified
Do you sleep till the TV at all?
tom green
No, I don't.
joe rogan
Fuck all that, dude.
No, that's a sickness.
unidentified
Is it?
joe rogan
You're not getting real sleep.
tom green
It sounds a little bit much.
unidentified
Oh, no, I always do the 40-minute snooze, right?
joe rogan
Everybody I know that does that.
tom green
You have a snooze button on your TV? Yeah, that's cool.
unidentified
Or a timer, I mean.
tom green
Really?
Yeah, that's cool.
joe rogan
You do a 40-minute snooze?
40-minute timer.
tom green
What do you watch, late-night television?
unidentified
Cartoons.
tom green
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Put it on some, you know, Cartoon Network.
joe rogan
So you're not sleeping while the TV's on.
The TV shuts itself off.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that's sort of different.
I mean, I have watched TV before I go to bed.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But I thought you were just sleeping with the television on.
You don't give a fuck.
unidentified
Old Tom and Jerry's are relaxing, man.
joe rogan
Just getting, like, no REM sleep.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's, like, barely dreaming.
tom green
Listening to books on tape.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, you have to constantly trick your mind that you're four years old, right?
joe rogan
I woke up this morning and I... The weirdest flight once, because I bought this CD on the laws of attraction.
It's this crazy woman who claims to be channeling some, you know...
tom green
Is it The Secret?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It was another one.
It was The Laws of Attraction.
I forget her name.
But anyway, she talks in this strange way, like when she's channeling this super deity.
tom green
Oh, yeah.
She's a blonde lady, right?
joe rogan
You know what?
It's on iTunes.
tom green
It's sort of a princess somebody or something.
I've seen that somewhere.
Because...
Yeah, someone showed me that once.
I like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, Seth speaks of what's about.
tom green
Yeah, I read The Secret.
Abraham, that's what it is.
I found it something that I enjoyed.
joe rogan
Says this woman, and she channels this super deity called Abraham.
I fell asleep once.
I listen to everything.
I have a very open mind.
And even if I think it sounds crazy, you're channeling something, okay, maybe you are crazy, but maybe in your crazy, in your actual true belief, you may have it, that you're communicating with this deity that Maybe you can bypass some of the pitfalls and roadblocks in human consciousness, and maybe you can see things that other people can't truly see.
So maybe you are crazy, maybe you are full of shit, but maybe you still have some good points.
I'm willing to let that be a possibility.
So I listen to nutty people do all kinds of different conversations and all kinds of different lectures.
So I was listening to this, and I fell asleep listening to it.
So I was on the plane for a five-hour flight, and it's like hours and hours of Lectures of this woman talking through this man, channeling, telling you, love, life is love.
All this nutty fucking New Age type shit.
She's channeling from this deity in this strange voice she's inflecting.
Sorry, I landed.
I was thinking like I'm in a fucking Harry Potter movie or something.
unidentified
It might have fucking programmed something in your brain.
You're going to be in an isolation tank and next thing you know you're going to be...
joe rogan
Like, what was that movie with Denzel Washington?
tom green
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?
You've reprogrammed yourself?
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
What was that movie?
Something Man?
Denzel Washington movie?
unidentified
Running Man?
joe rogan
No, no.
unidentified
Fuck.
Goddammit.
tom green
I don't know what you mean.
Man on a...
Shit.
joe rogan
Fuck.
unidentified
Cunt.
tom green
He's the security guard, right?
Or he's the security for the girl and she gets kidnapped.
joe rogan
He's been programmed.
He was programmed when he was...
What is that fucking movie?
tom green
Terminator.
joe rogan
You're not even trying to help anymore, man.
How dare you?
unidentified
Howard the Duck.
joe rogan
I'm not going to get it, man.
It was a movie where they brainwashed him when he was younger and then they activated him.
tom green
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
AI. No.
Fuck you, man.
Asshole.
tom green
I'm thinking of the other one where they try to get the guy down.
unidentified
AI's a little kid, you dickhead.
joe rogan
Dickhead.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom green
That's not Denzel Washington either.
That's Macaulay Culkin.
unidentified
Same color.
joe rogan
I hate not being able to remember shit.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so annoying.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is there a memory supplement?
Has anybody ever taken a memory supplement?
I mean...
unidentified
Ginkgo.
joe rogan
What's good?
Is that real?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I heard it was bullshit.
I heard ginkgo was bullshit.
unidentified
Just do resveratrol.
If you haven't started yet...
joe rogan
I do.
unidentified
I take those.
Oh, you do?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tom green
Cool.
unidentified
What milligrams, you know?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
unidentified
Gotta get like 500. I'll tell you.
joe rogan
We'll talk about this all fair.
tom green
All right.
Do you find you forget things as you get older?
joe rogan
No, you forget things because you have too much information.
tom green
I can't remember anything that I don't recall at this point.
joe rogan
I do notice that there is some sort of a scientific theory about the amount of people that we can store in our brain.
And I absolutely believe that.
They say it's 150. They say that people have room for 150 faces and names they recognize.
I have recognized someone that I didn't know was still in my database.
Well, you have to re-assimilate the memories.
And you go, okay, okay.
unidentified
Happened last night.
joe rogan
That's a weird thing, man.
It's like your brain is going, oh, we're going to dust this off?
Hold on.
We have it.
It's way back here.
It's way back here.
And then the dude's giving me information.
Do you remember, man?
We used to play pool together in White Plains.
I'm like, oh, shit.
And then I'm going way back here.
Okay, I got the file.
I got the file.
unidentified
Oh!
tom green
This year, I've been traveling around this year meeting hundreds of people every weekend in different cities, right?
So you're meeting all these different people.
Do you find then you start having that happen more when you come back to LA? Yes.
joe rogan
I mean, especially if you meet someone who's interesting and you wind up talking to this dude and you talk to him on the internet.
Well, that's an internet, you got an internet memory now.
You know, this guy is a part of your internet group.
You know, if you've been on my message board, people sign up for my message board, and sometimes there's some cool people who have some interesting things, and okay, now that guy's a name in my things of, you know, names of people that I can store in my mind.
I mean, it's like 150, that's what they say.
I really do find that it does seem like a data issue.
It seems like a data processing issue.
We're not supposed to have access to this many fucking people.
Our hardware is not set up for this.
We're trying to run Quake 4 on a 1982 fucking PC. That's what it is.
tom green
We're going to have to get little...
32 gigabyte chips that we can plug in behind our ear or something like that.
Just for names and phone numbers.
joe rogan
If they can figure out how to update the database of your mind?
tom green
Yeah.
unidentified
It might happen.
tom green
Just download stuff into your little...
Well, that'll be out there soon.
joe rogan
It's got to be.
If you can think it, they're going to get there.
As long as they keep tampering, and they always will, that's what people do.
We keep trying to figure out what's the coolest, best shit.
And they're going to learn.
As long as we don't blow ourselves off to face the earth...
We got some nutty shit coming.
Some nutty shit.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're developing skin that can feel that's artificial.
tom green
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
Artificial skin that you can feel with.
They have artificial limbs.
tom green
What do you mean?
joe rogan
They're going to be able to attach them.
tom green
Like you attach it to your finger and then you can make your finger like 40 feet long and you can touch stuff across it?
joe rogan
Eventually, ultimately, they want you to be able to be sensitive.
Like you can pick up a piece of paper with it or you can hold a thick mug.
tom green
Oh, really?
joe rogan
You're going to be able to touch and feel things.
unidentified
So what do you mean?
tom green
You grab it and then you can feel it?
joe rogan
You're going to get electrical impulses from this artificial hand.
And it's going to go into your nerve endings, and they're going to figure out how to make it so your brain thinks this is a hand.
brian redban
So they've figured out the conversion of this?
unidentified
They're working on it.
joe rogan
I mean, I don't know how far along it is or how close it is, but I know that this is an ultimate goal.
They're trying to figure out a way to make...
tom green
What would be some uses for that technology?
joe rogan
How about fake humans?
They're gonna make fake people, dude.
unidentified
Better fleshlights.
joe rogan
That's the real thing.
tom green
Better fleshlights, yeah.
joe rogan
The real thing is artificial life.
That's the real thing.
And that's really, really possible.
It's really possible.
We don't know what life really is.
Technology might be life.
It might be life in some sort of an embryonic form.
And it has to break out of this like a caterpillar that becomes a butterfly.
We're seeing with technology that people have created today in 2010, we might be seeing just this eggshell that's about to break and this new thing is going to hatch out of it.
tom green
I could use a robot around the house that had sensitive skin.
joe rogan
Smooth mouth.
unidentified
Pretty lips.
joe rogan
That would be so strange if you just had this really super hot robot that you could fuck whenever you wanted, and you didn't have to feed her, you could shut her off, you could do whatever you wanted.
But when you turned her on, she's like, oh, we fucking?
unidentified
What's up?
tom green
Yeah, clearly this is...
joe rogan
That's possible!
tom green
Clearly these scientists are putting their energy in the right place.
joe rogan
Who is going to be willing to tolerate their wife's bullshit when you can fuck this super hot robot porn star.
brian redban
There'd probably be something annoying and gross, like you have to change your filter, you know?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tom green
That would not be a fun...
joe rogan
Vacuum your load out of her snatch.
tom green
That wouldn't be a good job.
joe rogan
What if she's absolutely artificial?
Even her, you know, her hormones, her everything.
What if, you know, it literally is.
Like an artificial person.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, but it doesn't age.
tom green
Yeah, she cleans her own filter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She cleans her own pussy.
She knows what the fuck to do.
tom green
Yeah, she cleans her own filter.
Hey, why don't you just clean your own filter?
Already there's a problem.
Can you clean my filter?
Why don't you clean your own filter?
unidentified
What if she's too embarrassed, though, all the time?
tom green
Yeah, exactly.
See, there's already problems.
joe rogan
If you could actually have these totally controllable, artificial people where you could program in their personality and make them super accepting and docile and always kind and always sweet and affection to you, would people even get in relationships anymore?
With dudes?
God, dudes would just...
You're an ugly fat guy.
You can just buy this super insanely hot chick that's fake.
tom green
Yep.
joe rogan
And you can go to movies with her and shit.
She'll go to the movies with you.
tom green
Oh no, that's the end.
joe rogan
We wouldn't even know if it was a real person.
tom green
That's the end of relationships.
joe rogan
And they'd be like some old, fat, fucked up dude with no teeth, shit all over his clothes.
She doesn't care.
She's a robot.
She's hot as fuck.
She looks like Tracy Lords in her prime and they're holding hands at the movie theater.
People are getting pissed.
Get a fucking real woman!
tom green
Get a real woman!
The way you would know is because when it first happens, there'd only be five models.
You know, there'd be the blonde, you know, there'd be the brunette.
unidentified
They'd be everywhere.
tom green
So you'd see the same model over and over again.
You'd see the guys walking around, like smart cars going around or whatever.
joe rogan
They'll do anything.
They'll suck your dick in a taxi cab.
They don't give a fuck.
tom green
They're video game from the 90s.
joe rogan
People are going to go off.
It's going to be crazy.
unidentified
They would probably have dead eyes.
You know when you look in somebody's eyes, you can tell?
joe rogan
Maybe.
Maybe they have puppy dog eyes.
Maybe they'll crush you.
Maybe you fall in love with that robot and you're trying to figure out a way to breed with it.
unidentified
Dead puppies.
joe rogan
Maybe that's the apocalypse.
We do figure out a way to breed with the robots.
tom green
Can you tell me a little bit about this fleshlight since we're on the topic of having sex with...
joe rogan
It's a thing that you fuck.
tom green
Put your finger.
Really it is.
joe rogan
No one has fucked this one.
tom green
This is your sponsor.
This is your sponsor for your show?
joe rogan
Yes, that's the sponsor.
tom green
Where is this manufactured?
joe rogan
I believe Austin, Texas.
That's where the company is located.
I hung out with them a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, go ahead.
Don't be scared.
Get in there.
unidentified
Don't be scared.
tom green
Want to turn it for me?
I don't really feel like touching it.
You should feel it.
joe rogan
You should feel it.
No one has had sex with this.
Yes.
This is just a sample that they sent us.
unidentified
Just touch it.
joe rogan
Trust me.
tom green
Okay.
All right.
Yep.
joe rogan
Pretty good, right?
unidentified
Put the finger in the hole.
tom green
I'm not going to put my finger in the hole.
unidentified
No, no.
Just feel it.
It's the butthole.
You should leg it.
tom green
I can imagine.
I can imagine.
I have a very strong imagination.
That's interesting.
unidentified
Better than that cow.
joe rogan
Now, let me ask you this.
I don't have to ask you whether or not you masturbate, because of course you do.
But would you be willing to buy a masturbation tool that would make masturbation better?
Probably not, right?
Because then you have to sort of admit.
tom green
I was hoping I'd get a free one, because I was a guest on the show.
unidentified
Oh, I'll give you one.
joe rogan
I'll get you one.
tom green
Yeah, I wouldn't.
Would I be willing to buy one?
joe rogan
I think I've got one left.
unidentified
Hold on.
tom green
Yeah, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding, actually.
joe rogan
You want one.
tom green
Well, you know.
Might be fun just for a conversation at parties or something like that.
I know I have one.
joe rogan
I'll give it to you.
I'll get to find it.
tom green
It's in here somewhere.
unidentified
What kind of porn does Tom Green like?
tom green
You definitely have to be in a sealed wrapper.
Does it come in a sealed, hermetically sealed plastic?
joe rogan
I would not advise you to fuck that.
Brian Callen touched that.
Duncan touched it.
tom green
This has been unsealed.
Is that a signature on it?
joe rogan
I think Ricky Schroeder even touched that one.
Did Ricky Schroeder touch that?
Ricky Schroeder touched it.
unidentified
I think he licked it.
tom green
And so does it do anything?
Does it vibrate or anything?
joe rogan
You don't need that.
tom green
It's just what it is.
Just that.
joe rogan
You know what it is, man.
It's way better feeling than your hand.
And you're not getting any signal from it.
unidentified
It's patented rubber.
brian redban
It's like they have their own patent on how awesome this rubber is.
tom green
Made in America.
Made in the USA. Proud to be an American.
Very interesting.
joe rogan
At least I knew it.
unidentified
It's called fish in a bucket.
tom green
Oh, okay.
Look at that.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
That's what he calls it, fish in a bucket.
tom green
Okay, you've taken that out there.
joe rogan
This is what it's called.
This is called deer in a tree.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're just making up names, son.
It's not what it's called.
tom green
It's called out by you.
Is that what it's called?
unidentified
You have to fling it.
Okay.
It's a great nerf toy.
joe rogan
A slapstick.
tom green
Don't fling that around too much.
joe rogan
But it's a solid product.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
For 60 bucks or whatever it costs, it's totally worth it.
It makes beating off way more fun.
unidentified
What kind of porn do you like?
Are you an amateur guy?
joe rogan
Take your pants off.
Take your pants off.
tom green
You know, I don't even know anymore, man.
It's gotten so crazy out there.
unidentified
You still use magazines?
joe rogan
Kids today.
tom green
Yeah, you know.
joe rogan
It's gotten so crazy.
What's gotten crazy, man?
tom green
Well, I think basically just the sort of instant access to anything online is kind of starting actually to get to the point where it's not as...
It's an amazing thing, porn.
When I was a kid, they didn't have...
That, obviously.
So you'd be excited when the Sears catalog comes.
You'd be excited, right?
This is what you would...
There was not this access to it.
It's almost overwhelming to me now.
I think I've watched too much of it in my life, and I'm not interested in it that much anymore.
joe rogan
Sounds like you're campaigning for a nice girl.
tom green
When I started seeing it online in video, to be honest with you, I watched it a lot because I was interested in the web streaming technology.
So I would go on some of the sites just to kind of...
joe rogan
That's it, just for purely technological purposes.
tom green
It was sort of like a business or research kind of thing because I'm doing my web show.
I wanted to see that the streaming quality was good and things like this.
joe rogan
And you can get the most data from the facial section.
That's what I find.
tom green
Yeah.
But, yeah, so, you know, it's...
I think that's going to...
What's going to happen to us?
Are we all going to go crazy because of this porn everywhere?
joe rogan
No.
It's just people fucking.
They're just going crazy because they've been suppressed for so long.
It's like, ah!
Until everybody calms down, and then they're gonna realize, well, I don't really like watching all this crazy mouth fucking until girls throw up and then coming in their eyeballs and all that shit.
I don't really like that.
unidentified
You can watch making love videos.
brian redban
They're actually better than the porn fucking videos.
tom green
Oh, I've never heard of that.
brian redban
It's just two people that are really in love, and they just sit there and make love.
unidentified
It's actually pretty nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a way better way to beat off.
tom green
Some fetish site you're into?
unidentified
Yeah, you don't like love fetish.
joe rogan
You don't even like professionals, boy?
You like fucking scabs?
tom green
The love videos.
joe rogan
They're scabs.
They're violating the porn union.
unidentified
That's very nice.
tom green
Oh, and where do you find that exactly?
unidentified
Google making love videos.
joe rogan
There's just one chick that has a website.
tom green
That's something I've never heard of before.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's very romantic.
joe rogan
There's one chick that's like the most famous blowjob artist in all of the world.
I don't remember her name, but she's really famous.
But it's iDeepthroat.com.
Heather, that's her name.
Right?
unidentified
Heather?
joe rogan
Heather something like that?
And she's got like, I don't know, a hundred fucking videos?
And they're all of her blowing her husband.
Blowing this dude everywhere.
And she has the most ridiculous lack of gag reflexes.
She's got none.
So, I mean, he's got a big dick.
unidentified
She's like...
joe rogan
Down to the balls, licking his balls every time.
unidentified
That does nothing for me.
joe rogan
And they have videos all over the place on the internet.
Like, he's turned his wife sucking his dick into like a website.
tom green
Yeah.
That's an interesting way to go.
unidentified
You know?
You like more violent.
You should try these love videos.
joe rogan
No, it's not what I like.
I don't like it.
Well, I like her.
She's not doing it violent.
She's not throwing up.
Somehow or another, she can just do it without gagging.
That's the crazy thing.
The other one's like, there's a lot of Sasha Gray porn.
That's fucking hard to watch, dude.
That chick gets her mouth.
tom green
Oh wait, you did the first watching Two Girls One Cup video, right?
Did you do that?
joe rogan
It wasn't the first.
tom green
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
No way.
tom green
I saw you do that though.
unidentified
It was me and Joe.
tom green
We did it.
The shot was on you.
Yeah, it was both of us.
joe rogan
What was that called?
tom green
What's that called?
joe rogan
Reaction.
unidentified
Reaction video.
tom green
Reaction video.
joe rogan
It was a good one for reaction videos because everybody knew by the sound of the music what was going on if you'd already seen it.
tom green
That was a very odd sort of blip on the pop culture radar the day that came out, right?
And it was a site dedicated to one video and everybody went and watched it for a couple of days.
joe rogan
Dude, that thing got millions and millions and millions of views.
I joke about it and I bring it up on stage sometimes and it's incredible how many people have seen it.
tom green
And I think what's interesting about it is it repulsed people so instantly that it didn't really catch on.
That hasn't happened since, has it, where there's been one domain name comes out, you know, three girls, one horse, or whatever.
joe rogan
TwoGuysOneHorse.com.
tom green
There's nothing like it.
Oh, is there?
joe rogan
TwoGuysOneHorse.
Guy gets fucked to death by a horse.
tom green
Oh, I've heard about that in Seattle, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They had to change the law.
unidentified
Five Hands One Girl was another one.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
There's a guy, I think I've told this story before, but I'll tell you.
tom green
See, that's what I'm saying.
The point I'm making is, it's a good thing to not take off.
joe rogan
There's a dude that I know whose friend was dating a porn star, and he was trying to reconcile the fact that she fucked guys, and that this was just a job, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I just kind of put it in the back of his head.
And she came home with a contract, and she's going over the different parts of the contract, and he goes, what's this, airtight?
She goes, airtight means a dick in every hole.
He goes, what?
One on my ass, one on my pussy, one on my mouth.
He goes, okay, this is over.
That was what cracked him.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
Airtight cracked him.
tom green
Yeah, the fact that they actually have a name for it, too.
joe rogan
A term for just being plugged up with dicks.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then, what, are you going to come home and cuddle after that?
Shit.
tom green
Airtight.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, and what happened?
He just walked out the door and never talked to her again?
joe rogan
Like fucking Clint Eastwood.
tom green
Airtight.
I think you know when your girlfriend's got airtight in her contract, that's kind of weird.
joe rogan
It's a strange thing that a lot of the people in the porn business do.
They figure out a way to have boyfriends and girlfriends and be in relationships, but they still fuck.
They fuck other people when they work.
But they're only allowed to do it when they're working.
tom green
Yeah, it must because we're also, you know, accustomed to seeing it now that people probably out there actually can justify it in their mind because, oh, this is a legitimate profession here.
joe rogan
When does the Tom Green sex tape come out?
unidentified
And who's it with Drew Barrymore?
joe rogan
He's doing it with a hundred different women.
unidentified
Do you hate Max?
tom green
What's that?
unidentified
What?
tom green
You know, that's something I don't think I could ever see myself doing.
joe rogan
No sex tape?
unidentified
Is there one that exists, though, that you know of?
tom green
There's not.
There's definitely not one that I know of.
unidentified
Joe, is there one of you?
joe rogan
No.
You don't videotape yourself?
tom green
You know, not regularly, but I think it's from paranoia of...
I'm not going to say I never did it once in my life, but the thing is I immediately deleted it.
Always a strong move.
Yeah, immediately deleted it, didn't keep it around.
Honestly, didn't even really want to watch it, to be honest with you.
joe rogan
You loved it.
tom green
Yeah.
What's fun?
The process of videotaping.
joe rogan
You didn't want to watch it, though?
tom green
Not really, no.
unidentified
It was awful.
tom green
It kind of freaked me out a little bit.
unidentified
When I do it, I'm just so disgusted.
It depresses me.
tom green
Your body?
unidentified
But I do have one.
joe rogan
What depresses you?
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
What depresses you?
unidentified
It's just like, I don't know.
Watching yourself is gross.
Because I'm not like...
joe rogan
Okay, wait a minute, Brian.
Stop right now.
Listen to how you're advertising your sex.
You're a single man and you're saying you have depressing sex.
unidentified
No, no, no.
I mean, do you like watching yourself?
joe rogan
I'm like, ugh, ugh.
I'm not hitting it like, ugh.
unidentified
No, no, no.
I mean, do you masturbate looking at yourself in the mirror?
joe rogan
No, of course not.
unidentified
Why would you want to watch yourself, right?
tom green
I think it's like what you were saying.
unidentified
You're watching yourself having sex and you're If you don't like watching yourself on news or radio, why would you want to see yourself having sex?
joe rogan
But it doesn't depress me.
unidentified
No, I just don't like watching myself have sex.
joe rogan
I totally see what you're saying.
unidentified
It's disturbing.
joe rogan
What about if you do POV style?
Yeah, that would be cool.
That would be fine.
Slap an iPhone to your chest.
unidentified
That would be fine.
joe rogan
Press record, slap an iPhone to your chest.
You just capture as much as you can.
brian redban
I do have one of me when I was like 16 or 17. You know, using my dad's VHS camera that would make like old home movies about carrots attacking me and stuff.
And I would like set it up in my room and stuff.
unidentified
And I have one of like...
But then I look at it and I'm like, can I get in trouble for watching myself?
joe rogan
When you were 15?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Your child pornography of yourself?
unidentified
Right.
tom green
Well, could I get arrested for myself?
With your girlfriend?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom green
Yeah, okay.
unidentified
Probably, right?
I should destroy that tape, right?
joe rogan
Well, you could get arrested probably if you distributed it.
unidentified
That's illegal masturbation.
tom green
I think it could be considered child pornography.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what they catch kids for.
tom green
You're under 16 years old.
Could you be charged for being in possession of child pornography if the child pornography is of yourself?
joe rogan
Well, that's what they're doing when the kids are getting their cell phones taken away and they find photos of them.
Girls are getting charged with child pornography.
tom green
Because they have a photo of themselves.
joe rogan
Yes, because they have a photo of themselves that they sent to a boy.
They're charged with child pornography.
tom green
Yeah.
See, so you probably should destroy that tape.
What tape?
joe rogan
Well, that's like that old...
What tape?
It doesn't have tape.
unidentified
Yeah, it allegedly had a tape.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, how many gay guys are frantically searching the internet for a video of Brian at 15 masturbating?
tom green
Not a nice thought.
No, I don't know.
I mean, not for me personally, but the...
joe rogan
Strangest podcast ever.
Thanks, Tom Green.
tom green
So wait, what was the thing then?
Yeah, anyways, let's change the topic, right?
unidentified
Marijuana.
tom green
Sex tapes is...
Marijuana, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, the subject was getting depressed, watching yourself fuck.
And that he should do POV style.
brian redban
I love it when your song was released and then it was destroying the charts for TLC and then you...
TRL. TRL. And then were you forced to get rid of...
tom green
Yes, I was forced to.
unidentified
For 98 Degrees, that whole thing was...
tom green
It's a very...
It's a very, you know, there's a little bit of intrigue here behind the story because there was, you know, some things done in TRL that were not necessarily ever made public.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Okay, well, fill me on the full details.
What happened?
What happened?
tom green
What's the story?
Like the L in TRL isn't necessarily, it's not necessarily live all the time.
It's just not on anymore, no big deal.
joe rogan
What was the song?
What was the song and what happened?
tom green
Okay, so we went to Seattle and we were filming bits in Seattle and we thought, hey, this would be funny to do this song called the Bum Bum Song.
unidentified
One of my favorite songs ever.
tom green
It was a ridiculous idea and I would go and it was just a silly video of me going around Seattle saying my bum is on the cheese, my bum is on the rail, my bum is on the boat, my bum is on the dock.
It was a silly, sort of like a Dr. Seuss style nursery rhyme rap.
unidentified
Right.
tom green
And the comedy of it was me out in the street sticking my ass on everything and confusing people and filming the reactions, right?
And singing this silly song.
And then we played it on my show and we said we want this to go to number one on Total Request Live, which is their countdown music show that they would have every night, hosted by Carson Daly.
So, we played it on Seattle radio and it went to number one instantly.
This was when my show was on MTV. It was a really doing well show on MTV. The show was doing well on MTV. It went to number one.
People saw the absurdity of this song, Knocking 98 Degrees, Britney Spears, NSYNC, and whoever else was on the J-Lo, I think, out of the number one spot.
So we played it on the show.
We asked people to vote for it.
People voted for it.
It went to number one on Tuesday.
The show, I think, aired on a Monday.
It went to number one on a Tuesday.
This is the song.
unidentified
Look at me.
tom green
My bum is on the rail.
unidentified
My bum is on the man.
Remember this show?
Yeah.
This was like fucking a huge hit.
This song was big.
tom green
And this was the first song to be, like, this was right when MP3s just started.
So it was the number one downloaded song that year.
unidentified
What year was this?
tom green
I think 14 people downloaded it.
unidentified
What year, 93?
tom green
No, it was, it was, no, no, this was 99, 2000, 2000. Okay, so what happened?
joe rogan
So they squashed your song?
tom green
Yeah, it went to number one on Tuesday.
Then on Wednesday, it was number one again, okay?
And then on Thursday, it was number one again.
And then we get a call on Thursday at the office, and they're saying, guys...
We want you to kind of play ball with us here.
And we're like, well, what's the deal?
They said, well, you know, we need you to go on the show on Friday and retire the Bum Bum song and take it off the countdown.
And we're like, why?
We got the number one song in America on MTV, man.
unidentified
Yeah, write it.
tom green
This is amazing, right?
unidentified
Make money off this shit.
tom green
This is unbelievable.
Let's keep it at number one.
They go, well, the thing is we've pre-taped the show next week because Carson's going to be in San Francisco and all this stuff.
So it's kind of like who we think it's going to be.
And we hadn't predicted you airing the show on Monday and it instantly going to number one.
So it kind of screws up next week's pre-tape, which is all in the can.
So can you go on on a Friday and just retire it and we'll give you like a retirement home plaque.
And I was on MTV and I had my show on MTV and I didn't want to get fired, right?
Everybody's already mad at me about all this other shit.
unidentified
Right.
tom green
Screaming at me all day about, you know, I want to suck milk out of a cow's udder because I think it'll be crazy.
Let's put it on TV. And they're like, you can't do that.
You know, we're arguing nonstop.
It was like, it was the most stressful time of my life.
And that's saying something because I'm pretty stressed out right now, too.
Not right now, but most of the time, you know.
And so...
So I'm on the show, and I'm getting yelled at all the time by everybody.
Everyone's always screaming at each other, trying to make the show crazy or make it less crazy.
So I played ball.
I went in.
I got a nice plaque.
And you know what?
I'm not even, to be honest with you.
Well, yeah.
I think of it now.
I think we could have rode that thing a little further.
I could have put out a record.
I probably could have had some fun with that.
But yeah, that's what happened.
That's what happened.
joe rogan
That's interesting, man.
98 degrees.
You got fucked by the corporation, son.
tom green
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
It makes sense, though.
They would have probably cost them a fuckload of money if they had already pre-taped things.
tom green
Yeah, they would have reshoot five shows.
joe rogan
But how crazy is that that now you find out what their rankings are like?
unidentified
It's all total bullshit.
joe rogan
They made them up.
brian redban
They probably had deals with the record company like, we need to push 98 degrees, and here's $100,000.
unidentified
Do you think they do that?
Probably.
tom green
Well, that's illegal.
I mean, I doubt they did that.
I don't think they did that.
I never heard anything like that.
joe rogan
Brian, you're just making shit up.
unidentified
No, I'm just throwing shit on the table.
I'm not saying I have proof.
tom green
They never did anything like that.
I think it was just basically a very strange week.
joe rogan
So if it wasn't for that week, that song could have stayed on the countdown and become gigantic.
tom green
Basically, that week was probably a repeat of the week before.
joe rogan
What are you doing, Brian?
unidentified
That's weird.
tom green
That's me screaming about the...
unidentified
The end of the song.
tom green
Now, is that video going out, too?
And that's an iPad, which is pretty awesome.
brian redban
Yeah, it's actually just streaming on the iPad, but it's not going out.
tom green
That's pretty cool.
joe rogan
People can hear the audio.
tom green
But, you know, I've told that story before.
I don't think anyone at MPV cares anymore about that.
joe rogan
Well, it's on...
Why would they care?
They fucked you.
You're the one that's supposed to care.
You could've got paid, son.
You could've been driving that fucking song right now in the form of a red Ferrari.
tom green
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
You could be rolling with a big, fat, diamond-encrusted watch letting bitches know And they'd be like, Tom Green, how'd you get so rich?
tom green
Bum bum song.
joe rogan
I wrote a bum bum song.
Bitches tried to pull it off the air.
unidentified
In two Eminem songs, you know?
joe rogan
Bitches tried to pull it off the air and I was like, nah, keep that song on.
unidentified
The bum bum song and...
tom green
Oh, you know, those both are the same song.
Oh, was it?
Yeah, when Eminem rapped about it.
Eminem took the line from the Bum Bum song.
He says, why can't I go on TV and let loose when it's cool for Tom Green to hump a dead moose?
My bum is on your lips.
My bum is on your lips.
And if you get lucky, I'll give it a little kiss.
That's Eminem doing my Bum Bum song.
unidentified
That's so awesome.
That's cool.
tom green
And the thing that's funny about that, which is really cool, is that, like, you know, that song is like, I hear that all over the world now.
And it says your name in it, right?
So you're walking through.
That's when you're walking through, like, you know, an airport in...
In Amsterdam or something, and it's like, you know, you hear him rapping about, you know, it's pretty cool.
Who would have thought that Eminem would have, I mean, I guess it was pretty awesome when he came out, but I mean, just to be around for 10 years.
unidentified
Have you ever met him?
tom green
I have not met him, no.
But he let us use that song in Freddy Got Fingered through, you know, we had to license it, but he doesn't license music out that much.
He gave us a sweet deal.
We got to put it in the credit roll of Freddy Got Fingered, so that was pretty cool.
Thank you.
unidentified
That is awesome.
tom green
Thank you, Marshall.
joe rogan
That's very cool.
tom green
Marshall Mathers, yeah.
No, that's pretty cool, yeah.
Do you still write music?
brian redban
Do you ever think about doing another hits?
tom green
You know, I have a friend of mine who's a really cool producer here in town who I make music with sometimes.
His name's Detail, and he does a lot of cool music.
And I just do it for fun.
I have a little home studio for fun.
You know, got the Pro Tools and the Mac computer and...
That's cool.
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you got your fingers in all aspects of show business.
You're always doing something for you.
tom green
It's more like a hobby, you know?
It's more just a fun thing, but it's a fun thing.
You know, the songs I make are so ridiculous that they're never, I don't think I'm really, there ever would be sort of any mainstream.
joe rogan
So I think the stand-up thing is an interesting subject because you didn't do stand-up for a long time.
You did stand-up when you were like 15, 16?
tom green
Yep.
joe rogan
And then you stopped for like, God, what, 20 years?
tom green
I would do it sort of occasionally, but never sort of as I had an act that I was working on.
joe rogan
What launched it?
What made you decide to want to get back into it?
tom green
You know, about...
About?
About?
Yeah, I do that still.
unidentified
That's the one.
tom green
That's the one word that I get nailed on.
joe rogan
You get sincere.
You go sincere.
You go deep.
unidentified
Do you still drink Canadian beer?
joe rogan
About?
tom green
You know, I do when I can.
I do when I can.
I just sort of drink.
I drink when I can.
joe rogan
I do when I can.
So, what happened?
tom green
So, well, about two years ago...
Rob Schneider came on my show as a guest on the web show.
And his brother John also came up.
And I started hanging out with those guys.
And it was maybe about a year and a half ago, John said, you know, Rob's doing stand-up now too.
He's been touring all year.
And he said, Rob's going to start doing stand-up.
You should start doing stand-up.
And I thought, you know, this would be a pretty cool way.
First of all, it's something that I've been thinking about since I was a kid.
And I was very intimidated by it.
I was afraid of it.
It was in the back of my head.
I was kind of thinking, you know...
I don't know.
I was so used to doing the show.
I remember how hard it was when I was a teenager.
When you're 15 years old, standing up in front of a bunch of college kids.
It was a tough thing.
It was a very stressful thing.
So I've done it over the years, hosting shows and things like this in front of the audience, but not having to act.
Rob was doing it.
He was going around jumping up at...
Clubs around town at the Ice House in Pasadena and the Belly Room at the Comedy Store.
And we were just kind of going around trying out stuff.
And it sort of instantly was something that I immediately was kind of like...
unidentified
Attracted to.
tom green
I thought, geez, why did I not start doing this sooner?
This is just such a great thing.
Part of it also is I've been living in LA for 10 years.
I've got this web studio in my house.
I'm kind of thinking, you know, I've got to get out of the house sometime here in LA. I need something social to do that's not going and sit in some loud nightclub drinking with people.
Hey, this is something to really kind of wrap my hands around.
I also was missing getting up in front of an audience.
The web show is in my living room, so you don't have the audience.
So it's just been an amazing time.
And, you know, basically did it for about six months in LA, just jumping up and writing, writing, writing, writing.
Lots of stuff.
And I've taken off.
I've been, you know, I got to go to Australia for the first time.
joe rogan
But you're doing like an hour on stage.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, that is, very few people have ever gone from, I don't do stand-up, to I'm headlining on the road, performing on stage for an hour.
That's pretty incredible.
tom green
But when you used to do stand-up...
unidentified
When you used to do stand-up, how long did you used to do?
Like, you used to do it a long, long, long, long time ago.
tom green
Oh, it was 15. No, when I was 15, I was just doing, oh, I was like doing, you know, at its peak, about 15 minutes as a middle.
unidentified
Really?
15 minutes?
tom green
Wow.
But usually it was five to seven minutes opening act and amateur night at first, you know, for a little year.
joe rogan
So tell me how you concocted this tour.
I mean, how long had you been doing stand-up before you said, all right, I'm going to take this to the road now?
tom green
Well, basically what happened was I was jumping up all around town and then Norm MacDonald asked me to open up for him one night and do some shows with him one night just to kind of get, you know, keep practicing.
And then, uh, and, uh, essentially, um, I, uh, and, uh, Sarah Sheregi from Gersh came to all my shows and said, you know what, I'm going to book you on a tour.
And I said, well, that's pretty cool.
joe rogan
Okay, how many months is this into your stand-up?
tom green
So I've been nine months on the road, and she's been booking all these shows.
joe rogan
Between the time you got back on stage and the time you started touring, how long was that?
tom green
This was probably about six months or something like that.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
So you just jumped in and six months later...
tom green
But I was writing every day very much with the intention of I want to go on the road and do this.
joe rogan
Still very impressive.
It's very impressive that you were able to put together over an hour of material in six months.
That's amazing, man.
It is.
unidentified
That is amazing.
joe rogan
Mike Young was doing the same jokes again last night.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're developing new shit out of nowhere.
My friend Mike Young did some shit that he did nine years ago last night.
tom green
I approached it from the way I approached doing my television show or my web show.
I would be writing all the time and trying to build up the set.
joe rogan
Very diligent.
tom green
Jumping up, doing stuff, seeing what worked.
I organized it all out in paper.
joe rogan
Is that what you're doing?
tom green
On two cards?
For the first few months of doing the hour set, I had a set list that I actually took on stage with me.
And I'd set it on the stool, set my water on it.
I'd do my bits, and then if I got lost, I'd look down.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
Doug Benson brings in notes on stage and goes, look, if you don't want me to be stumbling around wondering what the fuck I'm talking about, this is good.
tom green
But eventually, after a while, though, I was kind of like, I started feeling like it was kind of a bit of a crutch, because I'm trying to be really physical.
joe rogan
Well, you don't have to use it.
The thing about a note, I don't use notes, but the thing about notes, the good thing is, if you need them, they're there.
It's like, why not have it there?
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like there's sometimes you're like, you know, I want to hear like Joey Diaz will say, what the fuck was I talking about?
What the fuck was I talking about?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Oh, that's it.
And you tell him and then he's got the story and then he'll just run and ramble onto the story.
Sometimes you just need a little note.
tom green
Yeah, I think I might start putting new stuff that I've never done before on notes and pulling that out at some point or setting it there.
There's something about writing things down on paper.
Once I've done it three or four times, I can remember it, but usually I can't remember it.
joe rogan
There's something about writing things down on paper that's really good for your memory, too.
Actually, the act of creating a note makes it...
Solidify in your mind.
And when you use your memory, you can recall what you wrote.
You can see it in the order.
unidentified
Set list.
brian redban
Just have a set list of just your basic bits.
joe rogan
That's cool.
The iPhone thing set list is cool.
That's definitely better than nothing.
But I think writing something actually down on paper seems to have the most effect.
It seems to be...
It sticks better.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
So when you wrote out your act, did you write out a beginning, a middle, and an end?
Did you put it all together verbatim, or do you ad-lib when you were on stage?
tom green
Yeah, initially I sort of, yeah, I ad-lib a lot on stage, but I have this sort of pretty solid, like, I know where I'm going to start, I know what I'm going to do when I start, I know what I'm going to do when I'm finished.
I actually pretty much know the order I'm going to go in through the bits that I've tried and tested.
But then often I'll kind of go off into the audience between bits for a second and talk to some people for a second.
But what's happened is it sort of evolved over the year, like the last nine months of doing it, is every week I'll kind of go, you know, maybe this is a little...
It's too depressing of a subject matter to talk off the top.
So then I'll move it sort of later in the act.
It's been fun.
It's been really fun and challenging doing it.
And I'm sort of shuffling things around all the time.
And so it's been cool.
And I write bits down on my phone, on the notepad in my phone if I think something weird.
And then I'll go home and I'll type it up on the computer.
joe rogan
So do you type it up as a joke or do you type up bullet points?
What do you do?
tom green
I usually write it out kind of word for word with punchlines and exactly how I'm going to say it.
And then I edit it and I get it exactly where I want it to be.
And then I try to sort of remember it.
And then usually the first time I say it on stage, I forget about half of the taglines.
I forget about half of them.
But I say it, but then I get off the stage and I immediately remember...
Oh, I forgot that, that, that.
And I think the disappointment of forgetting them makes it easier to remember the next time, because then I go look at them again, I go, I've got to remember this tag, this line, this line.
And so it's sort of, it's interesting.
It is interesting, because it really is kind of cool.
I mean, again, this first year of doing this full-time, night after night, but to...
When people tell you, you've got to get up, it's like a muscle.
You get up on stage, you start to retain it differently.
There's been obviously periods for two, three weeks where I haven't done a show this year, and then you get back on and you can't remember anything.
joe rogan
I take a week or two off all the time, and when I come back on stage, I'm like, I always have to do a warm-up set.
I do something in town in LA, and then it charges it.
And then that's the only time where I'll go over material just to familiarize myself with what I've been talking about most recently.
So I have my iPhone records all my sets, and I get recordings from Brian too.
So then I take them and I put them on my iPod, and then I just listen to them on planes.
tom green
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So it makes you dissect your shit.
It's also uncomfortable.
tom green
An audio recording.
joe rogan
You want to be better than what you're listening to.
You want to tighten it up and this and that.
tom green
Oh, yeah.
That's cool.
joe rogan
And you're not hearing it for the first time.
You're hearing it for the fucking 400th time, and it's you.
You really start breaking shit down.
tom green
So you record it in an iPod?
joe rogan
Sometimes on my iPhone.
Sometimes I get it from him.
He plugs up an MP3 recorder.
tom green
That's a good idea.
That's helpful.
Because then you can hear the little things that you say.
joe rogan
So you're enjoying it, man.
You're enjoying the whole process.
tom green
Yeah, it's been really, really fun.
And you know, I think like what we were talking about when we were having coffee, when I got here, In the kitchen, you were talking about how it's just nice to be in an independent thing where you want to come up with a crazy idea, a funny thought, and you go up and you can try it and there's no somebody coming in telling you not to say this or do that.
joe rogan
The most frustrating thing for anybody controversial like you has got to be a bunch of executives that have their ideas about what they think is going to be funny, and they're imposing it.
And you're like, look, it may not be funny for you.
It might not be funny for three people in this room, but four people in this room might think it's the funniest shit they've ever seen.
And you're going for those four people, and these people can never see that.
All they can see is, but you're losing three.
If you just took this back, this person would still like it.
You'd still get the original people, and we'd have two more people that like it.
tom green
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's how they think.
They think in these nutty numbers, and they're not thinking creatively.
tom green
And then you end up spending most of your time dealing with that, and at the end of it all, you're never really sure what it would have been if you'd just sort of gone wild on your own.
It's a beautiful thing about the stage.
Just being on the road has been really fun.
I also thought it'd be a cool way to go out and film stuff for my website, because I've always said, hey, it'd be cool to take my web show And go to different cities and see the people that watch the web show.
People call in on TomGreen.com.
They call in on Skype.
Every show I go to, it's so bizarre.
Every show I go to, I recognize 10 people in the audience.
Hey, John, how are you doing?
I've never been to the city before.
joe rogan
We've got to set up Skype, dude.
unidentified
I'm just scared of 4chan.
joe rogan
You're scared of 4chan?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't be scared.
tom green
Oh yeah, that's fun.
It just gives you somebody to fuck with.
joe rogan
You should never admit that you're scared of them.
You should never admit it.
You're fucked up.
unidentified
I'm not scared of them.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're already fucked up.
unidentified
I want to join them.
joe rogan
There we go.
unidentified
Now we're talking.
tom green
Well, you know, the thing is, to give you a little bit of an idea here, so what we've done in my eyesight, because 4chan, I found, did some fairly clever and ridiculous and absurd prank calls on us constantly.
joe rogan
Barrel roll.
tom green
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Barrel roll.
tom green
Completely irrelevant.
And obviously the most annoying thing, because it's completely irrelevant, and I'm sitting here with a guest.
But that was on the phone, but on Skype, it's much more difficult for them to do that, because we've created a system, which I'll tell you about off-air, actually.
I'll tell you about off-air.
joe rogan
Off-air.
You motherfuckers.
You ain't getting time.
tom green
Gotta stay one step ahead of the 4chan, guys.
But I'll tell you, a system for Skype that you can actually use that will help in that area.
4chan!
joe rogan
Don't do it.
You're fucked up.
You hurt everybody's ears and you pissed a bunch of people off.
They're coming after you now, dude.
You're fucked up.
They went after that bitch that threw puppies in the river.
They got her.
tom green
Was that loud?
joe rogan
4chan got that.
unidentified
Just kidding.
It was alright.
tom green
I think I'm losing my hearing because of stuff like that, too.
unidentified
Yeah, me too.
tom green
Yeah, I think I'm starting to lose my hearing.
I've noticed a lot sometimes I'm in conversations with people and they're talking to me as if I should be able to hear what they're saying.
unidentified
Same with me.
brian redban
I'm thinking maybe I'm just not paying attention to them, but I can't hear them.
tom green
It's calling from having your ears blown out from people like me.
joe rogan
Is that what it is or is it just a bunch of people that are talking all soft?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's a bitch.
Talk like a fucking normal person.
Some people just mumble, man.
tom green
Certain frequencies, too, when people have that frequency of voice and you're in a noisy area.
unidentified
Are you doing comedy?
joe rogan
Tell me about what you're talking about on stage.
How annoying is that?
What kind of stuff do you talk about?
That is the dumbest question.
I mean, I know it's a relevant question, but for a comic, what are the things you're talking about right now?
Well, let me tell you, I think Sarah Palin is dumb.
tom green
Yeah, let me do the bit right now, which doesn't really, you know...
joe rogan
I think killer whales are smart.
They shouldn't be in pools.
tom green
I think...
joe rogan
Let me just take a look at what's going on right now.
UFOs, a lot of UFO stuff going on, huh?
Isn't there?
And I go in a little UFO bit.
You get to tell somebody exactly what you're talking about.
tom green
Because I think that people, when they ask that question, don't understand how important the audience is when you're telling these jokes.
It's so much part of it.
You need the audience there.
That's cool.
So wait, the UFO thing.
joe rogan
UFO thing?
Have you been paying attention to what's going on?
tom green
That's something that I watch.
joe rogan
You and appointed a liaison or a spokesperson for the human race in communication when aliens land.
tom green
Yeah.
Really?
joe rogan
It's some weird looking chick.
She's like very like...
tom green
It's not Sarah Palin.
joe rogan
Very man looking.
tom green
Yeah.
And she's the person that they're going to talk to?
joe rogan
Don't get me wrong.
She's strange looking.
tom green
She's the person they're going to talk to?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's speaking for you.
tom green
Shouldn't we have some sort of input into this?
unidentified
Say.
Yeah.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
Who this person is?
unidentified
Is that just one little part of her job?
joe rogan
I don't know what the fuck her job is.
unidentified
Is that just like, oh, and if we ever get attacked by aliens, you have to do this?
Maybe.
joe rogan
Volunteer firefighter?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Maybe it's just like that's the most basic part.
joe rogan
I hope so.
Could you imagine if that's a fucking full-time job?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if she gets like 100 grand a year in benefits and all she has to do is just sit around and wait for the ambulance to call?
She's got her feet up, reading us magazine.
tom green
Yeah, keep up to date on what's important.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
The aliens don't give a fuck about who the leader is.
They don't give a shit.
If they were going to come here from another galaxy, they're the leader.
There is no leader.
You don't get to represent.
The aliens don't care what's the fucking number one ant.
Do you ever look at who's the number one ant before I kill all you people?
You just kill all the ants.
tom green
There's no discussion.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't have communication with ants over who's going to die and whether or not you guys can move out.
No, you just kill them all.
And if that's what aliens decide to do to us, they'll do the same thing to us that we do to monkeys, that we do to dolphins, that we do to killer whales.
tom green
But they could be peaceful.
They could be like that monkey that was holding the kitten the other day.
They might just come down and cradle us.
unidentified
Yeah, it might be the exact opposite.
They might just be like, hey, we just want to comb your hair and hang out.
tom green
Big fuzzy Chewbacca type creatures that come down and just want to cuddle us.
unidentified
It's interesting.
joe rogan
I try to keep these thoughts, these ideas of UFOs and aliens, I try to keep them away from my consciousness because I think they're giant time wasters.
They contemplate, what if the aliens come in?
Are these UFO videos real?
I'm open to the possibility that there are aliens, but I'm not going to sit around and watch some fucking lights in the sky that I don't know what the fuck it is.
It turned out it was actually a helicopter and you're actually retarded.
unidentified
Right.
You know, oh, you know, I mean, maybe this is a...
Or it was a prank.
Yeah, or it was a prank.
Like one of those little helicopters that he's souped up and has a couple of LEDs.
joe rogan
But I'm not close to the idea that there are something, that it is possible.
That there are some sort of intelligent life forms out there that are capable of traveling here.
Whether they're from another planet or another dimension.
It sounds ridiculous, but everything about this life would be ridiculous if we weren't living it.
The idea that we can get the internet would be ridiculous if it didn't exist.
The idea that you could send pictures from your phone.
The idea that you have a phone that fits in your pocket and you call someone in China and talk in real time.
tom green
Everything is so condensed now.
It's so much smaller now.
joe rogan
It's all so strange that it's entirely possible there's something super advanced past this, and they can communicate with us.
And it probably could be here right now watching us.
tom green
But these guys that came out today, or that you were talking about last night, that are Air Force generals, etc., that have been sworn to secrecy for the last 50 years or whatever, that say that they came and checked out some nuclear sites, and that they shut off some nuclear weapons, and they're all saying that this happened.
Do you think that happened?
joe rogan
It could be one of two things.
Well, it could be many things.
One of the things that it could be that I always think is maybe these guys are like being paid by the government to say absolutely ridiculous things and that nothing ever really happened at all.
And what there are is a part of some sort of a disinformation campaign.
And then eventually turn out they lied about a few details and that will discredit the whole story.
And it just makes aliens seem more and more ridiculous to calm people down because there may be some things that they can't keep wraps on.
And when those things are leaked, the best way to diffuse the impact of some sort of a crazy event or video, the best way to diffuse the impact would be to show all these other ones of similar stories that seem absolutely ridiculous.
So it automatically gets lumped into, oh, it's a UFO video.
Oh, you're crazy.
Oh, you believe that?
And so it automatically puts it into that category.
I mean, that's an effective psychological tactic.
If you were someone like the CIA or someone in the NSA, someone who's like of a super intelligence community, they know how to fucking manipulate people.
Don't make no mistake about it.
They absolutely do.
So it could be that.
Or...
It could be that these people really saw some shit and they don't even know what the fuck it is.
It could be that they're all crazy.
There's a bunch of could-bes.
But until I see something, until some shit comes into my life, I'm just wasting my time.
I just – I don't want to sit around thinking whether or not half this shit is real and Rob Lazar, did he really work at Area 51?
tom green
Yeah, that guy.
I saw that guy.
I've watched all – I got addicted to watching that stuff for a good year.
I was addicted to watching all this stuff and talking – this disclosure.
They're going to tell us soon.
They're just prepping us for it.
joe rogan
Yeah, the disclosure project.
tom green
Yeah.
I really do hope that they tell us soon because I think that would be pretty cool.
joe rogan
I don't think they know, man.
I think there's a lot of people scrambling, trying to figure out a bunch of different things that don't make sense.
And I think it's very possible that there are some alien life forms, but I do not think that our government has shit under control enough to keep all that shit under wraps and to somehow or another be communicating with these things.
I think if the government knows anything about UFOs, they know barely more than the average person knows.
And they have some evidence and they keep that shit under wraps.
They have cleared up some evidence perhaps.
Maybe, if it's true.
Maybe.
You hear all the Area 51 stories and the Roswell stories and the crashes have been recovered all over the country.
There's been crashes recovered supposedly in Pennsylvania in the woods.
And who knows how much of that shit is bullshit.
Who knows how much of that stuff is just some sort of a prototype that the US government was working on and it didn't work and it crashed?
Who the fuck knows?
But I'm open, man.
I'm open to the possibility.
That's just the fact that we exist to ants.
Then that means the way the universe works, things become ever more complicated.
They keep going in the same direction over and over again.
If human beings came from amoebas...
And all of a sudden, someday evolved to become human beings.
Whatever the fuck we were as single-celled organisms that became us, there's going to be a similar leap of evolution from us to something else.
So it literally will be the aliens will be treating us the same way we treat a fucking ant colony.
Look at these silly cunts.
Look at these silly cunts with their pollution and their stupid buildings.
tom green
See, I'm hoping what it is is these ships that come, right?
They come and they start talking to us and then eventually they open up and they come and they look exactly like us, right?
They look exactly like us.
And what it is is we've spread.
Maybe they got like ants, right?
They got similar human beings.
joe rogan
But what's so great about us?
tom green
So then we get in this thing and you get to go to another planet instantly with their technology and it's got more space and there's no pollution.
That's what I'm kind of hoping for.
That's what I'm kind of angling for.
I'm hoping for that.
joe rogan
You want utopia.
That's beautiful.
tom green
You know what you should do?
joe rogan
You should write a book saying that you know it's true and then start a cult.
tom green
Yeah.
And then drink a bunch of grape Kool-Aid and brew.
joe rogan
You don't have to go crazy Kool-Aid.
unidentified
Come on, children.
joe rogan
I think that was in Africa, wasn't it?
unidentified
I don't drink the Kool-Aid.
tom green
It was...
joe rogan
Guyana.
tom green
Yeah.
Was it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Kool-Aid.
Guyana.
Guyana tragedy.
Jim Jones.
It's amazing, isn't it?
tom green
South America, right?
Right, it was South America.
joe rogan
Guyana, South America?
unidentified
Is that what it is?
tom green
French or Guyana is in South America.
unidentified
You heard the audio recording, right?
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
It's so scary.
If you don't know the story, Jim Jones was a cult leader, moved all of his people to Guyana, wherever that is.
I thought it was Africa.
Sounds African.
tom green
And they all drank.
joe rogan
He made them all poison themselves.
And then they shot a bunch of people, too.
He didn't want to take the poison.
tom green
Congressmen flew down there to see them.
And the way they poisoned them was they put the cyanide in grape Kool-Aid.
And that's why they say, don't drink the Kool-Aid.
That's where that saying comes from.
Yeah, and that's the saying that… Yeah, a cultural tag.
unidentified
I wonder if Kool-Aid's pissed about that, too.
tom green
Yeah, they must be.
joe rogan
Why would they when they're so delicious?
Why would they worry?
Why would Kool-Aid give a fuck?
brian redban
Because they're connected to a mass murder.
unidentified
That's true.
joe rogan
I know, for a long time, I wonder how we should research, find out what their sales were right after the Diana charity.
unidentified
If it went up or down.
tom green
That's probably why Hawaiian Punch was born.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tom green
Probably came out after that.
unidentified
Yeah, you'd think Kool-Aid might have just changed their name.
joe rogan
Maybe.
You might be right, Tom Green.
I think that's a good note to end it on.
Absolutely.
tom green
This has been awesome.
joe rogan
This is a lot of fun, dude.
tom green
We've been on for a couple hours or something, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, two hours.
tom green
That's amazing.
joe rogan
Well, it's cool because we get to go into depth about subjects.
I find that when we were doing an hour, we would just start talking about things, and then all of a sudden we'd run out of time.
We're like, why can't we just keep going?
We said that when I was on your show.
I was like, this is so much fun.
It seems like it'd be more fun if we got to keep going.
tom green
It's nice just to get into a rhythm like that.
And I appreciate you having me on the show.
This is really cool.
Thank you very much.
joe rogan
Please, thank you very much for doing it, man.
I appreciate you coming by.
I think it's so awesome that I can just run into...
Ryan.
tom green
And I'd love to have you come back and do the WeboVision soon at TomGreen.com.
joe rogan
We can run into each other at a comedy club and then all of a sudden, boom, we're hanging out doing a podcast.
tom green
That show that you did is actually on TomGreen.com right now.
You can go watch it.
And follow me on Twitter.
joe rogan
Yes.
tom green
At Tom Green Live.
joe rogan
And Tom Green, if you haven't seen his show, he has a whole web, we were talking about the show, he and I did, he has a whole, literally like a Tonight Show on the internet.
It's a brilliant thing, and I loved it, and it inspired me to do this.
That was the first thought in my mind of putting something together on the internet.
tom green
Yep, you get my tour dates on there.
Come see me in San Francisco this weekend.
joe rogan
TomGreenLive.com or TomGreen?
tom green
TomGreen.com and TomGreenLive.com.
It'll link to it also on Twitter.
I'm in Cobb's Comedy Club in San Francisco this weekend.
I've never been there before.
joe rogan
Fucking awesome.
tom green
Great club.
And then Minneapolis the next week and then Canada.
joe rogan
Powerful Canada.
He's coming home, bitches.
All right, thank you very much, everybody.
We will see you probably, it looks like, next Wednesday, Monday or Wednesday, depending on who I can get for next week.
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