Aug. 3, 2010 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:53:44
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| Three. | ||
| Two. | ||
| One. | ||
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Yee-haw! | |
| I walked in. | ||
| You guys were watching soccer. | ||
| I was hugely disappointed. | ||
| Dude, England's in penalty kicks. | ||
| Oh my god, is that okay? | ||
| What happens? | ||
| It's the World Cup, man. | ||
| If they win, they move on. | ||
| And they just won. | ||
| They just won. | ||
| England just won. | ||
| They just fucking won. | ||
| Are you guys rooting for England? | ||
| Are you? | ||
| I'm English, man. | ||
| I'm half English. | ||
|
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Are you? | |
| My mom was born and raised there, bro. | ||
| I thought you were black. | ||
| What's up, bro? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Most people do. | ||
| English, son. | ||
| So you really root for England? | ||
| Yeah, big time. | ||
|
unidentified
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No shit. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Wow. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I know. | ||
| Do you know what's happening when they're playing, or do you only know when the ball goes in? | ||
| No, I have kind of an idea. | ||
| I would say I'm a blue belt in soccer. | ||
| Really? | ||
| A blue belt. | ||
| I wake up early and watch the games. | ||
| Only World Cup. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Only World Cup. | ||
| Dude, I was in Boulder. | ||
| You know, Boulder's like the People's Republic of Boulder. | ||
| I don't have to tell you. | ||
| You're from Colorado. | ||
| You know what it's like out there. | ||
| I went to school there, son. | ||
| Boulder's rough. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're like super-duper liberal. | ||
| And people were... | ||
| Unnaturally happy about the World Cup. | ||
| Like super excited that they know so much about soccer and yelling. | ||
| I was at a bar and I was like, ew. | ||
| That'll make you hate it. | ||
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Ew. | |
| That'll make you hate it. | ||
| But if you go to England, you'll feel good about it. | ||
| But it was this certain type of white dude. | ||
| Let's see you, bro. | ||
|
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Let's see you. | |
| They mean well. | ||
| They probably had a dad that was in the Navy or some shit. | ||
| Got bullied around at home, and they just went the total opposite hard way. | ||
| That shit happens, man. | ||
| He's a tough sell, especially if you're an athlete, like a black athlete. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| That's why they struggle a little bit. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Look at the beautiful mountains. | ||
| They're like, bitch, I don't hike. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about your mountains. | ||
| That's why they struggle, I think, recruiting. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's so beautiful there, though. | ||
| Yeah, if you're into fucking hiking and fucking water rafting and shit. | ||
| The people are super nice, too, though. | ||
|
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They're alright. | |
| They don't give a fuck about sports. | ||
| Where if you go to a southern school like Georgia or Tennessee, you're a god. | ||
| You're getting your dick sucked every fucking period after class. | ||
| Is that bad? | ||
| That they don't care or is it good? | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| It makes you work hard. | ||
| No, it sucks. | ||
| You got nature out there, though. | ||
| Eagles and shit. | ||
|
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Bears. | |
| Fucking nature. | ||
| Did you know that wolves and bears and wolves and grizzly bears are making their way back into Colorado? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| About goddamn time. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Why were they gone? | ||
| Well, they killed them off in the 1800s, and then they reintroduced them to Yellowstone. | ||
| And mostly they stayed around Wyoming and Montana, where Yellowstone is, and they made their way into Idaho. | ||
| But now they've definitely spotted them in Colorado, and they're also a very credible source. | ||
| In fact, my friend Adam Greentree took video of what he said was a grizzly bear, and he knows the difference. | ||
| He knows his shit. | ||
| Yeah, it was in the San Juan Mountains in Colorado last September. | ||
| So they think that there's a population of grizzly bears. | ||
| Adam would know. | ||
| He would know. | ||
| And if you watch the news, like the local news in LA, which I do, especially when I get depressed, there's a bunch of black bears in hot tubs and shit just popping up. | ||
| In Pasadena. | ||
| Just chilling in hot tubs. | ||
| Why do they love the tubs? | ||
| Well, they don't know that it's a hot tub. | ||
| They just know it's water. | ||
| So, like, for them to find a spot that's filled with water, it's probably terrible for them, unless you have a salt pool. | ||
| Look how hot it is, doing the chlorine. | ||
| The chlorine, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, if the bear's drinking all that chlorine. | ||
| Jizz in that pool? | ||
| You know, you're doing hot tub. | ||
| Yeah, that's like, that's dick soup. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Get that cock soup from the black bears. | ||
| Yeah, what percentage of hot tubs do people fucking? | ||
| 100% is the answer, 100%. | ||
| Well, in Pasadena, it's a little older. | ||
| In Pasadena, they're just rocking it out out there. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of bears up there. | ||
| There's a funny video, man, of this dude in Pasadena, and he's on his phone, and he's walking down an alley, and as he turns and walks down the alley, he's just on his phone, and he's looking down. | ||
| He's not looking where he's going. | ||
| He looks up, and there's a fucking bear right in front of him. | ||
| And the bear doesn't do shit? | ||
| The bear doesn't know what to do, and he just runs. | ||
| Both of them are like, what the fuck? | ||
| See if he can find that. | ||
| Dude, so the homie is just not paying attention. | ||
| Dude, I would shit my pants. | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| It's very dangerous. | ||
| Like you saw the homeboys in Seattle get fucked up. | ||
| Well, one died by the mountain line. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That super hungry mountain line. | ||
| Yeah, just on a bike. | ||
| Apparently the mountain line was emaciated. | ||
| It was all fucked up and sick and it only weighed like 90 something pounds, but it still fucked both of those dudes up. | ||
| But they tell you, like, oh, use your bike as a shield and scare him off. | ||
| And that line's like, what? | ||
| I don't give a fuck about your Trek bike. | ||
| Yeah, they hit it with the bike, apparently. | ||
| It didn't do shit. | ||
| How about homeboy? | ||
| It was like, dude, you're getting attacked. | ||
| I'm going to run and get help. | ||
| Way to go, asshole. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Runs off and that line goes, where the fuck are you going? | ||
| And then kills him. | ||
| The line killed him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Homeboy got away. | ||
| You know, that happened in Beijing, too, with the lady who got out of the car and a tiger attacked her at the wild animal park. | ||
| Yeah, that's what you get. | ||
| She got out of the car, the tiger attacked her. | ||
| Here it is today. | ||
| Damn, that's a big bear, bro. | ||
| It's a big bear. | ||
| That's a fucking terrifying bear. | ||
| So this guy, he's on his cell phone. | ||
| Where's the... | ||
| Dude, that's a big-ass bear. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| The dude's on his phone. | ||
|
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Look at this. | |
| He's like, fuck, which is, by the way, the worst fucking thing you could do. | ||
| He just got super lucky. | ||
| See if you can pull back, you can see where the bear walks behind those bushes. | ||
| Yeah, right here. | ||
|
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This is hilarious, dude. | |
| Look, the bear's walking right there. | ||
| The guy walks down. | ||
| He's not even looking. | ||
| He's like, oh, shit! | ||
| Dude, so you're supposed to get loud, right? | ||
| Like, get as big as possible? | ||
| Yes, you definitely don't want to run away, because their instincts are to chase. | ||
| Yeah, but they say when you get loud and, like, challenge them, like, you hear about that... | ||
| I don't know why I'm laughing. | ||
| You hear about that Boy Scout leader? | ||
| No. | ||
| Who they ran... | ||
| They saw a bear, and, you know, it's like, play dead, or... | ||
| Or do your thing when you play dead, or get real big and loud. | ||
| They don't know exactly what to do, but I guess in the Boy Scout fucking handbook it says to get loud and make a scene. | ||
| I don't know if I got loud and made a scene, and that bear was like, oh cool, hey kids, watch this. | ||
| Ate them asshole first in front of the whole squad. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Yeah, so I don't think they know exactly. | ||
| Well, the problem is bears are just like every other animal, right? | ||
| Like, think about dogs. | ||
| All dogs are different, man. | ||
| Some dogs just come over their house and they're like, hey, what's going on? | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| And then some dudes come over their house and their dog's checking you out. | ||
| Like, I don't know, motherfucker. | ||
| I'm not sure about you. | ||
| They get around you and the hair comes up and you're like, oh my god, his hair's up? | ||
| The worst. | ||
| Your dog has his hair up? | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| I think bears are probably just like dogs. | ||
| They vary. | ||
| They vary. | ||
| They say it also depends where you're at. | ||
| Like, they walked into his cave. | ||
| So he's like, you're in my house? | ||
| Give me that asshole. | ||
| Oh, that's terrifying. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Thank you for that cub scout. | ||
| You're like, oh my god. | ||
| Apparently the worst thing that could happen is you walk into a female with their cubs. | ||
| Game over. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A female grizzly with their cubs should just light you up. | ||
| You don't have no chance. | ||
| It's not like you're going to... | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I was listening to some bitch on the news because they were talking about black bears in hot tubs and if you run into one, this lady was saying, go... | ||
| So hilarious. | ||
| Punch them in the nose. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Their noses are super sensitive. | ||
| Or go for the eyes. | ||
| Yeah, let me try that. | ||
| They bite each other's faces. | ||
| People have to understand. | ||
| They fight with each other, which they do all the time. | ||
| They do all the time. | ||
| They're always fighting. | ||
| I've seen bears in person fight in the wild. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| They just fight. | ||
| Especially during the rut, like in the springtime. | ||
| They fucking bite each other's faces and it doesn't even look like anything happened. | ||
| They're good. | ||
| They bite the shit out of each other and nothing happens. | ||
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So you punch that thing in the nose? | |
| With you little bitch-ass hands. | ||
| Like, what are you gonna do? | ||
| Callan has an old bit where... | ||
| He's dead on a special, so you won't mind me saying it, but Callan has an old bit where people go, Oh, just punch a shark in the nose. | ||
| Did you ever try punching underwater? | ||
| He's like... | ||
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That's so true! | |
| I've thought that exact same thing. | ||
| I've thought that exact same thing. | ||
| Like, how much could you generate underwater? | ||
| Like, people go underwater to work out. | ||
| You've seen that famous photo of Ali? | ||
| Ali used to do a lot of shadow boxing underwater. | ||
| And John recreated it. | ||
| Have you seen the John Jones one? | ||
| It's fucking dope. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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It's dope. | |
| You know, GSP does a lot of work in the water. | ||
| He was the first one I knew was doing work in the water and actually for, I mean, months would drive down to Laguna Niguel where he's working out and we do these water workouts. | ||
| And we're in the pool. | ||
| We're in the pool for like two hours. | ||
| I was like, bro. | ||
| I did it for two weeks. | ||
| And he goes, you coming in on Wednesday? | ||
| That's the word. | ||
| That sounds more like someone with a mental disability. | ||
| I have problems with it. | ||
| I sound like Stephen Hawking. | ||
| You definitely sound like someone who doesn't know English that good. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| So anyways, he goes, you're coming on Wednesday. | ||
| I won't do the accent again. | ||
| And I was like, nah, I'm not, man. | ||
| I'm sick of a fucking pool. | ||
| He'd be in there for like two hours. | ||
| He'd have these things. | ||
| He'd just be in there doing this. | ||
| Well, he does a lot of jumping, which is really interesting. | ||
| I was thinking about it. | ||
| I was like, yeah, you could generate maximum force jumping in the water, and it's probably real easy on the joints in comparison. | ||
| It's easy on the joints, but I was listening to one expert talk about it. | ||
| Actually, I think Loren Landau was telling me he's a strength coach for the Denver Broncos now. | ||
| He was saying, it's good to mix in, but to do it every week all the time, especially in the sand or water, you're not getting the same explosiveness. | ||
| You're not generating the same explosive power. | ||
| So you should mix it up. | ||
| Yeah, because if you're just doing that, it's actually going to make you less explosive. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| GSP begs the difference. | ||
| Like Landau, but those dudes that are just on the cutting edge. | ||
| They're constantly comparing studies and just trying to get that little extra edge. | ||
| It is so interesting now. | ||
| The world of strength and conditioning has never been more complicated. | ||
| Because there's no more bro science, though, also. | ||
| Because there's actual experts who are like, you can look it up now. | ||
| Back in the day, my buddy was like, dude, just eat fucking egg whites, which we know is a terrible thing. | ||
| Just eat egg whites and drink milk and you're going to get fucking swole. | ||
| Everyone had all sorts of weird fucking diets. | ||
| Just take this BSN NXO explode and you'll be jacked, bro. | ||
| Yeah, there's so many variables still. | ||
| There's still some variables, but when it comes to the guys that get paid big bucks to train top-level athletes, they seem to all be kind of on the same page. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Lauren Ando's one of my best friends. | ||
| A lot of it, plyometric stuff. | ||
| A lot of plyometrics. | ||
| Usually they all agree on similar things. | ||
| They might have this variation here, this variation here, but most of them agree on the same fucking thing. | ||
| Meat and potatoes. | ||
| Lots of meat and potatoes. | ||
| No one's saying you need to be powerlifting only. | ||
| No one's doing anything stupid. | ||
| A lot of them are saying doing max reps and multiple days and all this stuff. | ||
| That's not the way to go anymore. | ||
| No. | ||
| The meathead days are over. | ||
| Yeah, it's over. | ||
| But I say, fuck that noise. | ||
| I still do the meathead days. | ||
| Yeah, I like it. | ||
| Sometimes, like, whatever. | ||
| It's fun to be a meathead. | ||
| Put a little metallic on. | ||
| Get those jean shorts out. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Nice three-hour workout. | ||
| Feroz was on. | ||
| Looking for Deka. | ||
| Feroz was giving us some insight into his philosophy on training. | ||
| What'd he say? | ||
| It was the most interesting thing he said. | ||
| He's a smart, smart man. | ||
| About as smart as people get. | ||
| But one of the more interesting things that he said was that you should never feel sore. | ||
| He's like, you should work out and you should build yourself up to the point where you never feel sore and never push yourself past your limit. | ||
| You should never be like, ah, never. | ||
| And working out or training too? | ||
| He was talking about training. | ||
| He was talking about everything. | ||
| He was talking about just do more of it in a day. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, he was saying that if you do like sets, like do a set, like here's a for instance. | ||
| I'm taking it out of context. | ||
| This is his example? | ||
| Yeah, it was like if you did a certain amount, I forget the numbers he was talking about, but if you did a certain amount of work, let's just to paraphrase, say if you do 20 chin-ups, and you do two sets of 20 chin-ups, you like barely can get 20, and you're burnt out afterwards, and you're wrecked. | ||
| Or, instead of that, you're doing 40 reps, right? | ||
| Either way, do 40 of them throughout the day, but do it five reps at a time. | ||
| But do the same amount of work. | ||
| How would you ever build stamina? | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
| But the idea being, well, I think it's a different thing. | ||
| But the idea being to get yourself into this position where you can train hard, especially with physical fitness type stuff, shouldn't break your body down totally. | ||
| You should just give your body enough of a chance to fully recover and then build up. | ||
| I think we have to be a little careful with it because for us, specializes in mixed martial arts where there's so many disciplines where you can't go balls to the wall in strength condition. | ||
| You can't just break yourself with wrestling. | ||
| You can't just go hard and smart. | ||
| You have to kind of monitor those things and figure it out. | ||
| So I think it's a little bit of a biased thing. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| I think as far as it goes, it's mixed martial arts. | ||
| Loren Landell's been saying that forever because I'd go super hard in the weight room. | ||
| He's like, I'm telling you, tonight you have wrestling. | ||
| You're going to be screwed, man. | ||
| You've got to figure this out. | ||
| You've got to figure out this formula, man. | ||
| That was a long time ago. | ||
| Yeah, they think that doing weightlifting in lower reps more often is the way to do it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's fucking interesting, man. | ||
| But when you're training for a fight, you're going to have to push yourself, right? | ||
| There's going to be certain things like whether it's hill sprints or whatever it is, I mean, you're going to push yourself to the limit. | ||
| And I remember... | ||
| Bisping and GSB had the same concept in training with both of them. | ||
| I remember Bisping, he would go so hard in practice. | ||
| When he would warm up, his repetitions, striking, hitting mitts, wrestling, jiu-jitsu, everything was super high-paced. | ||
| This is where I get my cardio from. | ||
| I'm doing the actual sport of it. | ||
| I'm not going to go run fucking sprints. | ||
| I'm just going to do more wrestling rounds. | ||
| And GSB was very similar. | ||
| He'd go super hard in that aspect. | ||
| Yeah, GSP was a wizard with that stuff, man. | ||
| I mean, he was always at the cutting edge when it came to doing gymnastics. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| He was really into gymnastics. | ||
| Did it with him. | ||
| Me, Mark Hart, and him would do it together. | ||
| So interesting. | ||
| My big ass, I'd watch him do all these flips like, alright, man, let me try this bullshit fucking cartwheel. | ||
| And they're like, very good, man. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| You're getting better. | ||
|
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You're getting better. | |
| Like, fuck you guys. | ||
| Does anybody your size do that stuff? | ||
| I was the biggest one in there for sure, and the rest were all eight-year-old girls who were just monsters. | ||
| And then Nate and GSP. I just looked like this big Shrek character in there. | ||
| Gymnastics is probably the sport that gets dudes the most jacked. | ||
| When you see ring guys... | ||
| They're tiny, though. | ||
| Right, but they're jacked. | ||
| Doesn't count. | ||
| But doesn't count. | ||
| You ever seen a skinny midget? | ||
| A skinny small person? | ||
| Have you ever seen a real thin small person? | ||
| I'm sorry, small person? | ||
| They're all jacked. | ||
| Are they? | ||
| They're all fat asses! | ||
| They're all jacked as fat asses, bro. | ||
| I don't think it's the same thing we're talking about here. | ||
| I'm saying... | ||
| Dude, I'm saying they're smaller. | ||
| I know, they're small though, bro. | ||
| So they're jacked. | ||
| Like if LeBron got into gymnastics, he's not going to be jacked. | ||
| What's the average size of an Olympic gymnast? | ||
| 5'3". | ||
| Are they really tiny? | ||
| Tiny, stocky, jacked. | ||
| But they've also been lifting like that since like four months old. | ||
| All I was getting at before your horrific ableist rant Do you know what ableist is? | ||
| That's the newest thing. | ||
| No, what is it? | ||
| If you make fun of someone who has a disability, you're ableist, including stupid people. | ||
| Tall gymnast is no oxymoron. | ||
| Okay, the average height for adult male gymnasts is around 5'4 to 5'7. | ||
| Jonathan Horton is listed as 5'1, 5'6, 5'8. | ||
| The tallest one is my height, 5'8. | ||
| I mean, he's like the Dikembe Mutombo. | ||
| He's an outlier. | ||
| Who's the tallest? | ||
| The tallest girl is like 5'2". | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| So that makes sense. | ||
| And then our studs. | ||
| Does it say gymnastics stunts growth? | ||
| Is that really what they think? | ||
| They start super young. | ||
| It said that right below that. | ||
| There was an article, does gymnastics stunt growth. | ||
| Is that a real question? | ||
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Whether it stunts growth. | |
| Right. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Is it a real question? | ||
| Well, they say lifting young stunt your growth, right? | ||
| I heard that, but how do they know that? | ||
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They don't. | |
| I've been lifting since fourth grade. | ||
| Maybe you'd be fucking super giant if you didn't. | ||
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I know. | |
| Maybe I should have been fucking playing basketball. | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| Stunts growth explained. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| I don't remember at all. | ||
| Maybe there's drawn to it, you know? | ||
| Maybe there's short people who are drawn to it. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| Well, it's absolutely a myth. | ||
| Says US Gymnastics. | ||
| Mmm. | ||
| Scientific community isn't entirely sure, but the idea that gymnasts would have grown to be a foot taller if they hadn't spent the time on the parallel bars is absolutely a myth. | ||
| The best in the world is 4'8". | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Simon Biles is 4'8". | ||
| Simone. | ||
| Simone. | ||
| It's a girl, bro. | ||
| Simone. | ||
| Don't misgender her. | ||
| Her friends call her Simon. | ||
| Son of a bitch. | ||
| I should call her Sim. | ||
| Talking about Sim? | ||
| Sim's 4'8", bro. | ||
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Essentially. | |
| See that recovery? | ||
| That's a crazy sport, man, when everything is like ready, set, go. | ||
| It's all about doing it in one moment, right? | ||
| Someone says, go. | ||
| You know, it's there, and then you have to nail it. | ||
| But you have a routine. | ||
| You have a routine. | ||
| You just gotta hit it. | ||
| Fuck up at all. | ||
| Game over. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| A little slip, all those months and months. | ||
| Will you watch gymnastics? | ||
| I'll watch a little bit. | ||
| But you won't watch World Cup. | ||
| I watch World Cup. | ||
| I'm just fucking with you. | ||
| I'm just saying, man. | ||
| Don't you understand? | ||
| Look, if I find out something you like, I'm going to start mocking it. | ||
| That's how we do. | ||
| That's how we do, bro. | ||
|
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That's how we do. | |
| We're here to make fun. | ||
| If you can't make fun of some shit that I like, man, I like a lot of dumb shit. | ||
| Too much dumb shit. | ||
| You did bring back fanny packs, though. | ||
| I brought them back strong. | ||
| Super strong. | ||
| I won't get credit for it. | ||
| You and Crow Cop, though. | ||
| Let's be real. | ||
| He's European. | ||
| It's less courageous. | ||
| It is, because they've been doing it forever over there. | ||
| But as far as the U.S.? It's me and Hulk Hogan. | ||
| No, Hulk got rid of it a long time ago. | ||
| Okay, well, we crossed bridges. | ||
| He had it and I had it at the same time. | ||
| He just let it go a while ago. | ||
| When did he let it go? | ||
| I bet he didn't totally let it go. | ||
| No, that sex tape came and said, fuck that. | ||
| I bet he still got one. | ||
| No, no way. | ||
| I bet he does. | ||
| Back in the day at Gold's, guys would have them. | ||
| There'd be steroids in those. | ||
| They would shoot up with their little bag? | ||
| Yeah, you could buy it off of them. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
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The Hulkster. | |
| No, you don't have one there. | ||
| That's pretty recent. | ||
| Poor guy. | ||
| That guy's had a shitload of back surgeries, man. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| Would you expect it was going to happen? | ||
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| He is? | ||
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| WWE? I think I heard that, yeah. | ||
| Probably for like WrestleMania appearance or something. | ||
| Yeah, that's amazing. | ||
| And Chuck Liddell and Tito are fighting. | ||
| So what else you got? | ||
| Ooh, what do you think of that? | ||
| Not my cup of tea, but... | ||
| You're gonna watch it. | ||
| For sure, well... | ||
| I'm gonna watch it. | ||
| Yeah, we'll watch it. | ||
| Might do a fight campaign for it. | ||
| Some people say it shouldn't happen, right? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| See, I don't think it shouldn't happen. | ||
| I look at it more like if... | ||
| See, I think if Chuck Liddell was still an employee of the UFC getting paid $400,000 just to chill or whatever he was doing for the UFC, he would not be fighting. | ||
| I think it's more of a money play, which bums me out. | ||
| Because I think Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz, what they did for the sport, should be compensated for the rest of their lives. | ||
| It bums me out they have to fight to make money. | ||
| That bums me out. | ||
| I don't know if Tito does so much, because he was very smart. | ||
| Chuck, it seems like maybe that's what's going on there. | ||
| But he also has been saying, you've got to wonder what... | ||
| Where this is coming from, but he has been saying that he misses it. | ||
| It was his favorite thing. | ||
| Damage playing baseball. | ||
| Yeah, but it's different. | ||
| Like, if we're going to live forever, if we're going to live forever, I would say, yeah, definitely don't do it. | ||
| Because you're just going to keep damaging yourself. | ||
| If you're not going to live forever... | ||
| How old is Chuck now? | ||
| He's 48. So let's say we're going to live to 100. Let's say Chuck lives to 100. He's halfway there. | ||
| I'm being friendly right now. | ||
| Let's say he's going to live to 100. You never know. | ||
| Today's medicine... | ||
| Oh, I have another... | ||
| What am I? I'm 35... | ||
| 30 solid years left to me. | ||
| So let's say Chuck... | ||
| Medicine's son. | ||
| Science. | ||
| New shit. | ||
| I'm big, though. | ||
| Great Danes, bro. | ||
| So let's say he lives to 100. He's basically halfway there. | ||
| Dude, at the halfway mark, fighting, it can't be healthy, man. | ||
| Imagine being 50 fighting, Joe. | ||
| And you're the exception. | ||
| You're in phenomenal shape. | ||
| Yeah, but I don't want to get hit. | ||
| You don't want to get hit in the face. | ||
| It's not going to be pretty. | ||
| Not in the head, for sure. | ||
| Especially if you had all those years of... | ||
| Listen, I'm not hating on it. | ||
| There's a market for it. | ||
| Do your thing. | ||
| Like I said, to me, it's more of a sad story. | ||
| I think they should be compensated... | ||
| I want them to parlay their careers like a Michael Strahan or Kobe Bryant, where there are legends and then they move on to do great things. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But I also, if they wanted to compete, if it was because they wanted to compete, I wonder where it makes sense to tell them they can't or they shouldn't. | ||
| Because if they want to do it, if they both want to do it, like if they had money and they're like, so what is it about it? | ||
| Is it the motivation that bothers me? | ||
| Like what is it about a fight like that? | ||
| I think it's the motivation. | ||
| You cringe a little bit, right? | ||
| I think it's the fact that they have a little bit, See, I think Tito did better financially. | ||
| Tito's fine. | ||
| He did really well in Bellator. | ||
| He might actually want this fight just to fight Chuck again. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think Tito's on a different trajectory. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he's been fighting and doing well over the last few years. | ||
| Yeah, he's still a formidable guy. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| Tito's a big fella. | ||
| Both great guys. | ||
| Now, I will say this. | ||
| Everyone who's fighting in these older leagues, or if Golden Boy, if that's your thing to do, like this Master League, everyone fighting that league better pray to the MMA gods. | ||
| Vitor Belfort does not enter that fucking thing, juice to the gills. | ||
| Have you seen his tits lately? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He looks amazing. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| I'm so happy with him. | ||
| He will wheel kick the fuck. | ||
| Out of all those old dudes at the same time. | ||
| He really will. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| I was looking at his Instagram the other day. | ||
| I was like, oh my god. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does something happens to Vitor when he fills up with super unleaded? | ||
| Dude, it's like peanut butter and jelly. | ||
| He's a different human, man. | ||
| Let him do his roids, bro. | ||
| Like, some people don't do well with roids. | ||
| They get all red and shit. | ||
| He looks great. | ||
| His skin's vibrant. | ||
| His tits are popping. | ||
| He's all tan. | ||
| His teeth get whiter. | ||
| He's doing straight testosterone. | ||
| He's not... | ||
| I mean, when he was on... | ||
| See, think about this, right? | ||
| We know for sure, we all know, absolutely 100% that people have cheated and taken steroids and got away with it. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| I know it, you know that, especially in fighting, especially when the weigh-ins were the only day you had a pee, and there was no randoms, they didn't just come by. | ||
| We know for a fact. | ||
| But when you watch someone who's just doing testosterone, and what else he's doing? | ||
| With a human growth hormone, and he's fucking gigantic now! | ||
| I love that Vitor. | ||
| I love it too, but what you get there, it's a different thing. | ||
| Like, for Vitor, like, something happens with him, like, when they allowed him to take it, like during the Rockhold fight, and the Bisping fight, dude, his body ate it up. | ||
| It's kind of a different thing. | ||
| Because it's above board, right? | ||
| You let him do it, so he doesn't feel guilty about it. | ||
| You feel me? | ||
| He's finding a way where it's still legal when he was doing it. | ||
| Yeah, he was doing it legally. | ||
| He was doing it legally. | ||
| He got permission from the UFC to do it in the commission. | ||
| But if you go back before he did it, Like, did you see when he fought Sexy Yama? | ||
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| Dude, his body didn't look nothing like that. | ||
| It looked like a welterweight. | ||
| And everyone wants to go, a lot of people go, oh, he did steroids, whatever sport, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds. | ||
| You take steroids, try hitting those fucking home runs. | ||
| Everyone was doing it. | ||
| In fighting, a lot of people were doing, I'm not going to say names. | ||
| So when Jon Jones tested hot against DC, right? | ||
| Whatever he tests hot for. | ||
| If DC was doing the same stuff, would he have beat Jon? | ||
| The answer is no. | ||
| Well, it was a very close fight up until that head kick, right? | ||
| It was a good fight. | ||
| You really never know what could have happened. | ||
| That's the thing about high-level fighting, right? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| However... | ||
| But however, that's what happened, so we have to judge it based on that. | ||
| If they were taking the same stuff, whatever you want to say John took, but if DC was saying, do you think the outcome would have been any different? | ||
| My answer is no. | ||
| If they were taking the same stuff... | ||
| See, the John thing, we've gone over this, but we probably should go over this again, if anybody doesn't know the actual numbers. | ||
| He tested negative, then he tested positive for a minuscule amount. | ||
| It was really small. | ||
| And then he tested negative again. | ||
| So whatever happened, happened in a very short window, and it was an incredibly small amount of whatever that stuff was. | ||
| Some call it micro-dosing. | ||
| Yeah, it could be that, right? | ||
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| We don't know, really. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The thing about it is that stuff is supposed to stay in your system for a long time. | ||
| It would be a stupid thing to take because supposedly it's in your system for weeks. | ||
| But we don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, the micro-dosing shit is real, folks. | ||
| That's real. | ||
| I mean, that's what they were doing in baseball. | ||
| They were taking testosterone gummy bears and they would only last like three or four hours and your body would metabolize them. | ||
| They said A-Rod would eat them during the games. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then by the time the game was over, it's out of the system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And baseball. | ||
| That was testing baseball players. | ||
| It was the dumbest shit. | ||
| But it was one of those weird American things. | ||
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Like everybody's like, I don't want my fucking athletes cheating. | |
| But if we had the Russians' attitude about this... | ||
| Just be cool, man. | ||
| I mean, what is it like? | ||
| How do the Russians feel about that documentary Icarus where that guy came on and claimed that all the Russian athletes were on steroids? | ||
| They don't even address it. | ||
| They're like, yeah, no shit, buddy. | ||
| Anyways. | ||
| Whatever, let it go. | ||
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Whatever, bro. | |
| Get over it, man. | ||
| Kill a few whistleblowers over here. | ||
| Don't mind us. | ||
| Yeah, come over here. | ||
| Let me know how it works out for you. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| But the stuff with steroids, I think we put too much... | ||
| We almost put too much emphasis on the steroids. | ||
| Don't get me wrong, it fucking helps and helps a lot of guys. | ||
| But if everyone was on the same thing, Jon Jones would still be the greatest all time. | ||
| He'd still be defeated. | ||
| Brock Lesnar would still be Brock Lesnar. | ||
| I think Kane would still be Kane. | ||
| Steve Bates would still be... | ||
| I think everything would be the exact same. | ||
| I've got to be serious here, man. | ||
| I think you're right if everybody was on. | ||
| The results would be the same. | ||
| If everybody was on. | ||
| The problem is some people like Vitor, his body loves it. | ||
| He's made for it. | ||
| Yeah, his body's made for TRT replacement. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, good luck. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| Now that he's in the Wild West of Brazil and he's looking for something. | ||
| On his Instagram, he finds his fan and he's like, how long you been a fan? | ||
| He's all, since the beginning, bro! | ||
| He's like, you want to see me fighting? | ||
| He goes, let's do it. | ||
| Like, gives him a wink. | ||
| I'm like, yeah. | ||
| Who's going to sign up to fight that fucking monster? | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| How does he get out of his contract? | ||
| Does UFC still have him under contract or did he retire? | ||
| He retired, but just because you retired, and I know because I retired, your contract isn't voided, it's frozen. | ||
| They're very smart. | ||
| But it's Vitor Belfort. | ||
| I highly doubt all he's done for the UFC. I guarantee you could talk to Dana would let him go, I'd assume. | ||
| Yeah, that would be nice if they did. | ||
| The scary thing about Chuck is Dana, who's obviously very close with Chuck for a long time. | ||
| I don't know if they're so close anymore. | ||
| Dana, this is Dana going, says, I don't think he should be fighting. | ||
| Like, I don't want to see him fight again. | ||
| I sure as fuck wouldn't let him fight here. | ||
| I hope he stops. | ||
| And when someone close to the situation says that, I'm like, oh, God. | ||
| But he's going to do what he's going to do. | ||
| Chuck versus Vitor was one of the first fights I ever called. | ||
| Completed his contract with the UFC last month in a loss to Liotta Machida. | ||
| But it doesn't mean he's retiring. | ||
| The Phenom took to social media to hint at return and asked fans who they would like to see him fight next. | ||
| Oh, he's good then. | ||
| As usual, Frito, though, his choices were a bit curious. | ||
| Who's he asking to fight? | ||
| Vanderlei? | ||
| He asked the fans, so he said Vanderlei, Chuck, Tito, Bisping, or Hendo. | ||
| Well, Hendo and Bisping's not happening. | ||
| Chuck, Tito, or Vanderlei. | ||
| You tell me you wouldn't watch Vanderlei, Vitor, and Bellator? | ||
| I would watch that. | ||
| What if, imagine if Tito and Chuck fight, and Chuck wins. | ||
| Chuck wants to fight again. | ||
| He wants to fight Vitor again. | ||
| He beat Vitor in UFC 37 and a half. | ||
| And now, it's like we're back to the future. | ||
| I would text Chuck, like, please don't fight Vitor. | ||
| He's a fucking... | ||
| I feel like it's different with Vitor. | ||
| But wait a minute. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| Chuck was clean. | ||
| How about get Chuck on the super sauce? | ||
| The ultimate ice man? | ||
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Come on, son. | |
| Stop fucking around. | ||
| Stop fucking around, bro. | ||
| You're 48 years old, son. | ||
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That's true. | |
| You can't be eating mangoes and dates and fucking almond butter and think you're going to compete with a sauced up Vitor. | ||
| I didn't think of that. | ||
| Come on, golden boy. | ||
| Yeah, you get that fucking... | ||
| Yeah, you can't fuck with any legitimate organizations. | ||
| No, why would you? | ||
| All these organizations that want to sneak up on you in the middle of the night and test your pee. | ||
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Oh, come on. | |
| Nah, player. | ||
| Nah, come on, Golden Snitch. | ||
| Take a break. | ||
| How about there's guys like Josh Barnett, and even Liotto said this. | ||
| this goes with sign with the UFC because of USADA and obviously they've all been busted previously so they have a little different you know agreement with them but they're saying listen well Josh Barnett was not busted by Nowitzki right they came out he never took anything but he lost a year of his career yeah I don't understand the Josh Barnett case I I'd like to have him explain it, because it sounds like what I've read sounds like he got fucked. | ||
| No, he did. | ||
| They even admit it. | ||
| They admit it? | ||
| They know for a fact he did not, right? | ||
| They've had other guys, right? | ||
| Like the Dirty Bird. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Tim Means. | ||
| Tim Means. | ||
| They came out that are bad. | ||
| Over the counter. | ||
| Yeah, it's all good, right? | ||
| It took some protein powder that was slightly contaminated. | ||
| And that came out as true. | ||
| With Josh Barnett, it took a year to figure this out. | ||
| And then they go, my bad, bro. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I know you missed a year and you're an older fighter and it's a year of not getting paid. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| You're welcome back now. | ||
| And Barnett's going, fuck this, man. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| Is that really what they did? | ||
| I promise you that's what they did. | ||
| See, that seems to me to be a case where you've made an error that you should compensate that fighter. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| He should be fully compensated. | ||
| You can't force a guy if you made the mistake. | ||
| That's like, I mean, I'm not a business person, but if I was a business person, I'd be like, well, this is a clear case of someone owing someone money because you fucked up. | ||
| But what you saw, I was going to say, it was an investigation. | ||
| It took us that long to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| That's the process. | ||
| Yeah, but they were wrong, right? | ||
| So if they were wrong, so all their investigation stuff they did that took so long to get to the bottom of, you accused a guy who's innocent. | ||
| Yeah, but see, don't they say potentially flagged for PDs, right? | ||
| They don't say what you're flagged for, and then it goes into investigation. | ||
| But they don't say he suspended or he tested positive for this. | ||
| They say potentially flagged, and then there's an investigation. | ||
| Then it took a year to figure that out. | ||
| I think that the USADA, especially under the whatever... | ||
| Guidelines that they had coming in here had a lot to work with, right? | ||
| There's a lot of fighters You got to figure out who's you got to test this one more tonight, so I mean it must be crazy Must be a nightmare. | ||
| I'm not saying it's an easy job. | ||
| I I think it's too much a very hard job I think it is too much to this 500 fighters on roster but a legend like Josh Barnett he deserves respect and That's the youngest ever heavyweight champion. | ||
| Agreed, Joe, and he's one of my favorite fighters and he's probably one of the smartest men they ever grace the octagon. | ||
| He's such a smart guy. | ||
| Very, very smart guy. | ||
| And I love Josh Barnett. | ||
| However, if you're Nowitzki and you look at the history of Josh Barnett, there's a reason to have skeptical golden snitch eyes on him because he's tested positive previously. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
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| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, if you have a track record, like, I'm gonna test over him a tad more, Vitor a tad more than Stipe or DC. How dare you? | ||
| Like, I just look at DC and be like, nah, you're good. | ||
| How about super unleaded DC? DC's 40 years old, son. | ||
| DC's 40 years old on the natch with just some powerful fucking Herculean genetics. | ||
| Get him on that super sauce, kid. | ||
| bro get him on that Vitor shit that gives you veins in your teeth Dude when he was there was a time when Vitor was they were had to face off with him and Rockhold and It was when he was doing the Mohawk thing. | ||
| Dude, it looked like he had a stingray hanging off the back of his neck. | ||
| It looked like a fucking stingray. | ||
| His traps were like this. | ||
| He looked so scary, dude. | ||
| And this was even at the weigh-ins, man. | ||
| This was when the weigh-ins were the real weigh-ins. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Rockhold told me, he looked right at him, he's like, what the fuck is this guy on? | ||
| They're just Winstral coming out of his eyeballs. | ||
| Just fucking tears of Winstral. | ||
| It was just testosterone. | ||
| It was just whatever they let him take. | ||
| He was on other things too? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I don't know what he was on. | ||
| It's hard to tell from that picture because he's an actual 185 right there. | ||
| He's very, very deflated. | ||
| It's amazing the difference between some guys, like when they weigh in, like Yoel, when he weighs in at 185, he still looks super ridiculous, uber jacked at 185. You can't believe he only weighs 185 when he gets a big scale. | ||
| But then he fucking whoop! | ||
| I mean, he just puts all that meat back on. | ||
| Your boy Whitaker was like, that motherfucker's... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said it was magic. | ||
| He's like, it's magic. | ||
| See that man go from that to that? | ||
| He goes, obviously, you find him before, and he's aging, and this time he's even harder. | ||
| He's like, something's up there, son. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But you know what else may be? | ||
| Maybe crazy Cuban genetics. | ||
| I think that shit's real. | ||
| Could be crazy Cuban genetics. | ||
| How much more impressive? | ||
| Whatever he's on. | ||
| Let's say he's on something, Whitaker beat him twice. | ||
| There should not be a third fight. | ||
| I don't think this decision was just in the second fight. | ||
| No, you're crazy. | ||
| I think there should have been 10-8s. | ||
| No. | ||
| Under the new rules? | ||
| I think it should have been a draw then. | ||
| I don't think Yoel won that fight. | ||
| If you're going to give Yoel a 10-8, then that's a draw. | ||
| And I don't think they give draws out enough. | ||
| I don't think they do either. | ||
| Because then they're forced to have that trilogy fight. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| That I'm fine with. | ||
| I didn't think that a decision... | ||
| I thought, like, there's too many moments in the fight where Yoel hurt Whitaker. | ||
| Like, really hurt him. | ||
| There was no moments in the fight where Whitaker really hurt Yoel. | ||
| Like, really hurt him. | ||
| Like, had him in deep trouble. | ||
| That head kick, the wobble him a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, but man, the head kick was when... | ||
| I don't think that even fucking did much. | ||
| It wobbled his legs a tad. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| But if you go round by round, watch that fight a bunch, I think... | ||
| That actually was a good... | ||
| He landed with the foot, right? | ||
| Right in the face? | ||
| Top of the head? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, you go round by round, just stylistically, I had Whitaker winning 3-2, and I went, alright, let's say I gave UL when he fucked him up, I think it was the 4th or 5th. | ||
| I think it was both rounds, he had him in trouble. | ||
| But I gave one a 10-9 to UL, and if you give a 10-8, it would still be a draw. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which I'm fine with. | ||
| Which makes more sense to me. | ||
| It's just people have a hard time with decisions when the guy at the end of the fight is fucking the guy up. | ||
| Now obviously this is coming from someone who's a professional commentator, so I understand this is a ridiculous argument. | ||
| But the ridiculous argument is if we're gonna judge what a fight is. | ||
| We all know if you're watching a fight fight, right? | ||
| If you and I are in a fight and you're on top of me beating the shit out of me In the last few seconds when the cops come in. | ||
| That doesn't matter. | ||
| If I ran around this room and kicked your legs for the first two minutes, and then you got on top of me and were beating the fuck out of me for the last 20 seconds when the cops came... | ||
| You're talking prison rules, son. | ||
| You won the fight, right? | ||
| You won the fight in the streets. | ||
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| But as a professional sport... | ||
| I understand, but this is a professional sport that's kind of a fight. | ||
| It's not just a boxer. | ||
| So in boxing, if I win the first eight rounds, right, and you're whooping my ass, 9, 10, 11, 12, those first eight, what do we do? | ||
| There it is. | ||
| No, it's a real good point, dude. | ||
| It's a real good point. | ||
| But the idea is... | ||
| See, that didn't hardly do anything. | ||
| Oh, bro, he was on wobbled Cuban Street. | ||
| But he was already tired, dude. | ||
| Look how wobbly he is already there. | ||
| How about the kicks by fucking Whitaker, too? | ||
| Whitaker's so good, dude. | ||
| And the fact that he fought that fight, most of it, with a fucking broken hand. | ||
| He beat him with one hand. | ||
| He beat him with one leg the first fight. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| No, he's phenomenal. | ||
| He threw that hand, too. | ||
| No, he was in trouble, for sure. | ||
| A couple times. | ||
| I had one round of 10-8, so that'd be a draw. | ||
| See this right here? | ||
| This is a 10-8, man. | ||
| This is a 10-8. | ||
| Again, even if you give a 10-8, it should be a draw then. | ||
| He wouldn't win the fight. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm with you on a draw. | ||
| Two guys are fighting. | ||
| It's a close round, but one guy drops him and has him hurt. | ||
| Everything up into that moment is close. | ||
| I think that's still a 10-8. | ||
| Geeesh, damn, you're tossing 10-8s. | ||
| I think 10-8s, it's got to be... | ||
| The difference is someone almost got finished. | ||
| This is an almost-got-finished moment. | ||
| The legs go, the person falls, the guy gets on top, the guard's pounding him. | ||
| See, I don't have a problem with 10-9. | ||
| I think it has to be a clear fucking... | ||
| Bully beatdown for a 10-8 round. | ||
| I think that should be a 10-7. | ||
| I think we should make this shit make sense. | ||
| 10-7 game? | ||
| I mean, fuck it. | ||
| Why are you fighting? | ||
| If you're a 10-7, I'm like, fuck sakes, bro. | ||
| I really feel like this scorecard, this 10-point must system is silly. | ||
| The whole thing's silly. | ||
| Silly. | ||
| The judging. | ||
| But the silliness. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| We've kicked that fucking horse. | ||
| But the numbers, like, why do we need 10 points? | ||
| Just because boxing always had 10 points? | ||
| They're only using their hands. | ||
| They're not even using their elbows. | ||
| You know, just think about all the different things. | ||
| Like, what's worth more? | ||
| Is a jab worth more than an elbow? | ||
| Oh, there's all, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, what's worth more? | ||
| A guillotine choke that you get out of? | ||
| How many points do you get for that? | ||
| We've got to figure that out, man. | ||
| But it's also predicated off styles, too, because what happens if, let's say I'm Brian Ortega. | ||
| Let's take Brian Ortega and Max Hallway. | ||
| And Max Hallway on the feet, jabbing, good distance control, and Brian really can't get it going, but then he pulls guard. | ||
| He pulls guard, and he's fucking throwing arm bar, triangle, leg lock, and Max is kind of defending, but he's in trouble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're not giving that to Brian down there. | ||
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Right. | |
| They don't know shit about the ground game. | ||
| They look at Max on top and go, well, when he was on the feet, he landed more jabs. | ||
| Let's give it to fucking Max. | ||
| Yeah, there's moments where a regular guy is on his back and they're right. | ||
| Like a guy who doesn't have a good guard or a guy who just tries to hang on until the referee pulls him off. | ||
| But then there's some dudes who have their guard is like the scariest place to be. | ||
| You gotta know what you're dealing with. | ||
| You gotta know the premises. | ||
| Do you remember that kid, Paul Sass? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Won so many fights by triangle, man. | ||
| It was ridiculous. | ||
| You'd see that guy fight off of his back and be like, whoa! | ||
| He's moving quick! | ||
| He was closing shit up quick. | ||
| Dudes didn't know what the fuck was happening and all of a sudden they're jacked and triangled. | ||
| Dude, how about that? | ||
| Max Holloway, Brian Ortega fight. | ||
| That's a great fight. | ||
| Greatest fight at 45 since Conor and Aldo. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It's such a dangerous fight for Max. | ||
| It's a dangerous fight for both guys. | ||
| I mean, this is the first... | ||
| Well, for Ortega, it's not his first time in world-class territory, right? | ||
| He had Cub and he had Frankie. | ||
| He won both of them in spectacular fashion. | ||
| Finish Frankie. | ||
| Never been done before. | ||
| Never been done before. | ||
| But the crazy thing, I thought, just as crazy, maybe more crazy, was the way he finished Cub. | ||
| He almost got Cub in the first round. | ||
| Cub is a real Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. | ||
| And I know that Max finished Cub as well, but Cub was hurt in that fight. | ||
| I think he had either a broken jaw or... | ||
| Yeah, he went into the fight injured, yeah? | ||
| Something was fucked up. | ||
| Something went real bad during the fight. | ||
| Anyway, all credit to Max. | ||
| He did finish him. | ||
| But it was the way... | ||
| When they went to the ground, Ortega locked up that darts at the end of the first round. | ||
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I was like, Jesus, this is tight. | |
| This was tight, man. | ||
| When they went to the ground and when he was cinching it up and then the buzzer went off, I was like, yeah, that fight's over. | ||
| Tight fucking... | ||
| And then he did the exact same thing again. | ||
| He went, oh, cool, cool. | ||
| He just knew he could do it. | ||
| The thing is, his jiu-jitsu is at such a fucking high level. | ||
| He's so dangerous. | ||
| You can't really train for it either. | ||
| Just being in the room with Ortega, it's... | ||
| You've seen triangles. | ||
| You've seen arm bars. | ||
| The way he sets up and it's so explosive and the angles he hits, you can't bring anyone in to duplicate that. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's so different. | ||
| And what's crazy about Brian is his story. | ||
| He's a guy who's not going to go in there and talk shit. | ||
| He comes from a super humble background. | ||
| And his demeanor inside that octagon, even earlier in his UFC career, it was not going well for him. | ||
| He's finished all fighters, so he found some way to get it done. | ||
| And I think it comes from growing up in that rough background, man. | ||
| It doesn't fluster him. | ||
| He's like, I just, I need something. | ||
| He never gives up. | ||
| He's like, something's going to come. | ||
| Something's going to come. | ||
| And I think that's huge in this Max Holloway fight because Max distant control is fucking second to none, man. | ||
| It's going to be tough for Brian to get in there. | ||
| I think once Brian can get an underhook, I think we're going to see him jump to half guard, something like that. | ||
| It's going to be interesting, man. | ||
| It's going to be interesting to see if Bryan can turn into a jiu-jitsu match. | ||
| But the thing about Bryan is he's so comfortable with his hands, man. | ||
| He's getting more comfortable, for sure. | ||
| And doesn't have a super team. | ||
| Yeah, he's amazing. | ||
| But Max Holloway, dude, when I saw the second fight with Aldo, the second fight with Aldo, there were some moments in that fight where I was like, Jesus. | ||
| Oh, he's one of my favorites. | ||
| This dude's on another level, but he was overwhelming Aldo like he went into that fight You know and the basically when they announced the this is where his phrase Where it started to hit me it is what it is. | ||
| You know I Love it. | ||
| That was his attitude to go fight an absolute future Hall of Famer who was thought to be the greatest featherweight of all time a guy who you know think about some of his Spectacular chaos of Chad Mendes and I mean he was a monster when he was young and How about when the Cub Swanson flying knee in WEC? Dude, he was a beast. | ||
| And for him to go into that fight and be like, it is what it is. | ||
| Like, it is what it is. | ||
| The fuck's that mean? | ||
| And he just smashed him. | ||
| Just smashed him. | ||
| Well, how about when he was going to fight fucking Khabib? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And he would have... | ||
| If they didn't pull him off... | ||
| Yeah, if the commission didn't pull him off the weight cut... | ||
| He would have fought Khabib on how many days notice? | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Eight days? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Something like that. | |
| Something fucking crazy. | ||
| That's how much of a badass he is. | ||
| Super short notice. | ||
| I also think the reason why I love this fight and so good for the UFC, especially just for the both of them, is Max and Bryan are going to fight multiple times. | ||
| I think this is going to become a cool rivalry. | ||
| We're going to see him go from 45. Whoever wins this, I don't really care who. | ||
| I love both those men. | ||
| I fucking love both those guys. | ||
| Whoever wins, I think eventually they're both huge for the weight class. | ||
| And Max is younger than Brian. | ||
| They're going to go to 55. Even Max's team goes, he should be a 55er. | ||
| He's fucking huge for 45. Well, you think about how much weight he had to lose to get to 55. I know. | ||
| They pulled him off the weight cut to 55, which is crazy. | ||
| 55, there's some fight for him. | ||
| But I think, and this is great for fighters, man, like with Aldo. | ||
| He was never that big until Conor came, right? | ||
| And there's this rivalry. | ||
| DC, Jon Jones. | ||
| Nate Diaz, Conor. | ||
| Ali, Frazier. | ||
| Misha, Ronda. | ||
| Holly, Ronda. | ||
| There's all this stuff starting to happen. | ||
| And then people fucking tune in. | ||
| So I think for Bryan and Max, they don't need to talk any shit. | ||
| They just keep being humble. | ||
| Their skills speak for themselves. | ||
| But people want to tune in for that. | ||
| And you're going to get a bunch of fights out of these guys, man. | ||
| I think you're probably right. | ||
| My dick's hard about it. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I love it, man. | ||
| I get goosebumps talking about those fucking two. | ||
| Yeah, they're pretty badass. | ||
| It's nice to see just any time you have a guy who's defending his title and you have a guy who you legitimately think could be a champion. | ||
| And you see, look, you look at the two of them. | ||
| Like, I look at that fight and I go, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what's going to happen. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| It just depends. | ||
| If Max makes one mistake, Brian capitalized on it. | ||
| Brian's so dangerous. | ||
| So dangerous. | ||
| What's interesting to me is when I first met Brian years ago and he was in the gym, remember he was mopping mats and just doing his thing and Henner would bring him on the road. | ||
| He even goes on the road now with Henner and they teach cops their tactical stuff and they do these seminars and he was like Henner's little guy. | ||
| And I always took him serious because jiu-jitsu was ridiculous and he would train with me and all this stuff. | ||
| But I never thought... | ||
| Best in the world! | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Never! | ||
| I know! | ||
| Because you knew him! | ||
| Yeah, I'm like, what's up, man? | ||
| When they told me, because I called him for a fight, and then they go, dude, UFC's coming, calling around. | ||
| I go, not yet. | ||
| You know, I'm cautious, Larry. | ||
| I'm like, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Please, he has to work on a stand-up. | ||
| Don't fucking let him do it, man. | ||
| And then Henry's like, dude, he wants to do it. | ||
| And then fucking, I was way off, that motherfucker. | ||
| He got good with his hands fucking fast. | ||
| He steps up the level of competition, man. | ||
| Well, he definitely does, but it's also... | ||
| He's so good at jiu-jitsu that he just took whatever that focus is that got him so good at jiu-jitsu and applied it to striking. | ||
| And now he's just a winner. | ||
| He knows how to win. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| He knows how to put shit together. | ||
| When he landed that uppercut on Frankie, and I was like, Jesus... | ||
| Vicious. | ||
| Like, Frankie's a hard guy to fucking hit clean. | ||
| What? | ||
| Impossible. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Unless you're Gray Maynard. | ||
| It's a fucking nightmare. | ||
| Well, and even Gray Maynard, he came back and won that fight. | ||
| Which was insane. | ||
| Which is insane. | ||
| Draw in the first fight, KOs him in the second fight. | ||
| Those fights were fucking chaos, man. | ||
| Some of the best. | ||
| But the fact that Ortega took him out, I mean, some people say, well, maybe Frankie's at the end of his rope. | ||
| He's deep into his 30s now. | ||
| What is he, 36? | ||
| Something like that, right? | ||
| 36, 34. Either way, though, it's Frankie Edgar. | ||
| Either way, it's Frankie Edgar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he went on to beat Cub Swanson, what, four weeks later or some shit? | ||
| He's like, no, I'll do that in New Jersey. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 36? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just phenomenal conditioning. | ||
| Dude, and then also on this card, you got DC fucking Stipe. | ||
| To me, it's like the first real, like we're in the super fight era. | ||
| To me, it's like the first real, real super fight. | ||
| Like GSP bids me. | ||
| I was like, that's cool. | ||
| That's a thick ass GSP. I guess that's super fight. | ||
| But DC Stipe is a fucking real super fight. | ||
| That's a real super fight. | ||
| I love it, man. | ||
| You know what I'm looking forward to almost as much? | ||
| Francis, Black Beast. | ||
| That's right, son. | ||
| Derek Lewis, Francis Ngannou. | ||
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Woo! | |
| I know everyone thinks it's going to be a first-round knockout and they're just going to throw Kasha in the wind. | ||
| I think Derek Lewis double-legs him, either in the first round or second round, and beats him via TKO. Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| How good is Derek's wrestling? | ||
| I mean, he's an explosive dude and he used to play football. | ||
| You know? | ||
| See, I think people are making a mistake going, oh, Derek's just going to go on there, Francis is going to go on there, fucking plant their feet and just fucking chuck the bombs. | ||
| I think you're wrong, man. | ||
| I think people think that are wrong. | ||
| I think Derek's going to mix it up. | ||
| If he's smart, I just, I think what I would do if I was them and what Derek and his background and Francis working on stuff, I think Derek's going to shoot. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The crowd's gonna boo, but Derrick's gonna shoot, and then his ground pound is fucking nasty. | ||
| I don't know if the crowd will boo. | ||
| If it's a good crowd, a crowd that understands the danger of Francis on his back, and Derrick on top, Derrick with big KO power, stop Travis Brown, I bet they might be thinking, oh shit, this is gonna get crazy. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| Because it's not like if Derrick takes you down, he's just gonna hold on to you. | ||
| He's gonna try to kill you. | ||
| He's not gonna submit you. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's gonna punch you with the right in the fucking face. | ||
| That Travis Brown TKO, or a KO rather, was ruthless. | ||
| It's one of the worst ones. | ||
| Bisping, Dan Hendo, and then that one for me. | ||
| It's like, you don't want to see that replay. | ||
| Yeah, that was a rough one. | ||
| That was a tough one. | ||
| And Ganu, man, you gotta get to him first. | ||
| The thing about getting to him is you're running into hammers. | ||
| You gotta get to him. | ||
| You gotta stay back and then the cardio gets to him. | ||
| We only saw him tired once, but it was a big once. | ||
| We've only seen him out of the first round once, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stipe figured it out. | ||
| That's also Stipe. | ||
| I get friends with a lot of shit, but that's fucking Stipe. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| The most accomplished heavyweight of all time. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you have to look at him, his accomplishments. | ||
| You look at the guys that he stopped and the guys he defended his title. | ||
| He stopped. | ||
| Fabricio wins the title. | ||
| Stops Alistair. | ||
| Stops Junior Dos Santos. | ||
| The only reason why Stipe doesn't get enough credit as he should is because all of these guys are a step past their prime, right? | ||
| Like, to me... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love Stipe. | ||
| To me, what's more impressive, when Kane beat JDS, that was prime JDS who was a motherfucker. | ||
| Motherfucker. | ||
| And Kane put his fucking head right in the middle of his chest and did work after getting knocked out. | ||
| In the first round on Fox in the biggest fight in MMA history. | ||
| That was insane. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| To me, that's a little more impressive than when Stipe beat JDS. That's JDS after... | ||
| An ass whooping by Kane. | ||
| Rounds. | ||
| It is more impressive. | ||
| Ten rounds of an ass whooping, basically. | ||
| What's almost as impressive is surviving that first round against Francis. | ||
| I don't know who would have survived. | ||
| There's not a lot of guys that would have survived that round the way Stipe did. | ||
| D.C. D.C.? Man, I wonder. | ||
| He ate that fucking punch from Anthony Rumble Johnson. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| How about that kick? | ||
| And popped the fuck back up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| But John KO'd him. | ||
| Yeah, it's John Jones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| John Jones beats everyone we're talking about. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| See, the thing about Francis, I'm very curious to see what he looks like. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| No, no, that's not what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm very curious to see what he looks like in this next fight. | ||
| We're going to find a lot about whether or not he's able to correct mistakes, whether his conditioning is just one of those things with all that fast twitch muscle fiber, whether he's not going to be able to go five rounds hard. | ||
| I don't think he's going to turn into fucking Nate Diaz or something like that. | ||
| I think it might be a tad better. | ||
| The way he can get better is not using all his energy on power punches. | ||
| So maybe it's more of an experience thing. | ||
| But with Derek Lewis, he also peddled to the metal and hits hard as fuck, too. | ||
| He does. | ||
| And he's been in some serious trouble. | ||
| That Travis Brown fight, he was in serious fucking trouble, man. | ||
| Yeah, he's a warrior, for sure. | ||
| I mean, that guy has been in some crazy-ass fucking fights. | ||
| Crazy fights. | ||
| He's dangerous. | ||
| Both are super dangerous. | ||
| I mean, he wants that fight, too. | ||
| Derrick Lewis is asking for that fight. | ||
| They both wanted it. | ||
| They both wanted that fight. | ||
| This is gonna be crazy. | ||
| Super crazy. | ||
| I think the craziest thing on the card to me is how many people are riding off DC. He's the underdog against Stipe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have DC beating him, man. | ||
| Do you? | ||
| Yeah, I know you hate picks, but when I break down the fight, I look at what that terrible picture makes Stipe look super small and fucking DC look giant. | ||
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Yeah, that's crazy. | |
| Look how small Stipe looks. | ||
| DC looks like he's a fucking gigantic person. | ||
| He looks like Brock Lesnar. | ||
| Stipe looks like DJ Dillashaw. | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| Stipe looks like a bantamweight. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, one says 76 inches and one says 71 inches. | ||
| No, that bothers me, man. | ||
| The reach, the height, because DC's dealt with that his entire career. | ||
| Gustafin, Jon Jones, those guys had even bigger reaches. | ||
| I think also one thing to take into consideration is Stipe doesn't throw a lot of kicks. | ||
| He's not a big kicker. | ||
| Bingo, sir. | ||
| Yeah, he's more of a boxer. | ||
| And, you know, DC is also going to be able to get under him easier than any guy he's ever fought before. | ||
| I mean, DC's, what, 5'11"? | ||
| Is he about 5'11"? | ||
| If that, yeah. | ||
| He has top of the food chain wrestling, man. | ||
| Remember what he did to Henderson? | ||
| Barnett! | ||
| Launched Barnett in the air. | ||
| Launched him in the air. | ||
| Slammed him. | ||
| Barnett's a big fella. | ||
| Yeah, and can grapple his fucking ass off. | ||
| And DC took him for a ride, son. | ||
| But the Henderson fight was the most impressive to me. | ||
| Because Henderson, even though he's smaller than DC, he's a fucking stud. | ||
| And he was an Olympic silver medalist himself. | ||
| And DC just ragged. | ||
| Some people discredit DC a little bit when they go, when he won the Grand Prix in Strikeforce, that was a different time. | ||
| Those heavyweights were older and the games evolved. | ||
| While I look at Stipe, I'm like, heavyweights haven't really evolved that much, man. | ||
| You don't see a guy throwing a lot of kicks and mixing up wrestling and jiu-jitsu. | ||
| You look at Stipe's game, it's boxing or wrestling. | ||
| That's very similar to what DC's used to beating. | ||
| So the times when he's in trouble is a guy like Jon Jones who fucking mixes up and he's a fucking nightmare. | ||
| But when you're just boxing... | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| When DC goes in a fight and you're just boxing or wrestling, the reason why DC's going to go down as one of the greatest of all time is his mental game, bro. | ||
| He's so fucking... | ||
| His fucking fight IQ's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's tough as shit. | ||
| And, you know, if you look... | ||
| Who else does it the way John does, where they're really good at everything? | ||
| They win by submission, they win by knockout, they win by, you know... | ||
| Mighty Mouse? | ||
| You'd have to go to a lighter weight? | ||
| Those are the two, right? | ||
| Because even Kane, Kane would do Muay Thai, and Kane would for sure wrestle in ground and pound, but he never really submitted anybody. | ||
| No, Kane's thing was wrestling... | ||
| Just smash you. | ||
| Yes, smash you. | ||
| Outwork you. | ||
| Yeah, outwork you. | ||
| Get you exhausted to the point where you never even believed you could be that hard. | ||
| Embrace the grind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which DC has been training with Kane for this fight. | ||
| Is Kane back now? | ||
| Is he 100% training? | ||
| Yeah, he's helping him. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So when I look at that, I go, alright, Kane's style is almost identical to fucking Stipe's, but Stipe has a little more power. | ||
| As far as cardio, wrestling, Kane's better at those things, man. | ||
| Well, Kane was better than anybody that ever lived for like two years. | ||
| Nightmare. | ||
| Yeah, and he just got injured so many times. | ||
| There were so many injuries with him. | ||
| But when you look at what he was able to do with real fucking tough guys, just break them down. | ||
| Ridiculous, man. | ||
| Real tough guys. | ||
| But, you know, he's had shoulder surgery, back surgery, knee surgery. | ||
| I mean, after a while, everything was just given out because of the force of his will and his workouts are so fucking tough. | ||
| Those guys at AKA, you know, like Dana was giving them a hard time at one point in time saying something about, you know, that they're always getting hurt. | ||
| They win. | ||
| But that's how you get killers like Kane. | ||
| To get a guy that's got that kind of mind, he's used to being in that horrible misery of trying to break someone. | ||
| He's used to it. | ||
| Does it all the time. | ||
| So does DC. They all do it all the time. | ||
| And then DC went, oh, I'll go there and train. | ||
| And remember, DC, before he went there, he trained with us in Denver. | ||
| He didn't... | ||
| He wasn't that good. | ||
| You know, Lofty's wrestling was ridiculous, but he moved there, and then he just followed suit. | ||
| Then you got John Fitch, you got Koscheck, you got fucking Khabib. | ||
| Khabib. | ||
| Luke Rockhold. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| When Rockhold gets people on the ground, smashes him. | ||
| When he got Weidman on the ground, Weidman was stuck under a building. | ||
| Same thing with Liotta Machida. | ||
| You look at him and you go, oh, David Branch, same thing. | ||
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| Gets you down and his fucking top game is just murderous. | ||
| It's because of who he's training with. | ||
| He's training with those guys. | ||
| I have friends who watch him train down in Florida and they were just saying his jiu-jitsu. | ||
| They wouldn't give me names. | ||
| They said world-class jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| He's fucking up, Roland. | ||
| Like just destroying. | ||
| No, he's a nightmare, man. | ||
| He's a freak athlete. | ||
| He's strong and he's long. | ||
| He's got like long leverage, but he's also got physical strength. | ||
| He was supposed to fight Gustvin until he hurt his leg. | ||
| What happened to his leg? | ||
| He got a huge gash in it. | ||
| He had staples. | ||
| I think he posted it. | ||
| It looked fucking terrible. | ||
| That would be an interesting thing. | ||
| Now you've got Gustvin and Volkan. | ||
| No time. | ||
| No time, son. | ||
| So you think Stipe and DC goes to DC by decision? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Think he out-wrestles him? | ||
| I just think he out-works him. | ||
| I think he out-works him. | ||
| And I don't think it's a classic fight. | ||
| I just think hopefully more people appreciate DC after this. | ||
| I look at both of them. | ||
| They both have the embrace the grind thing. | ||
| As long as DC can avoid that big power punch early on, he's gonna be fine. | ||
| And he's so smart, man. | ||
| Well, I definitely think he's really smart, but I also think that Stipe is a really good striker. | ||
| And he's a bigger guy, and he's got a long reach, and he's probably one of the best heavyweight strikers that DC's ever fought. | ||
| He's got real one-punch knockout power at heavyweight. | ||
| He throws clean shots. | ||
| He doesn't have any fat in his punches. | ||
| He'll stand here like this and drop one in on you. | ||
| He's got a chin. | ||
| He's tough as fuck. | ||
| He loves being champion. | ||
| He might have a lot to prove here. | ||
| He doesn't throw a lot of kicks, but it doesn't mean he can't. | ||
| He can throw them if he wants to. | ||
| If he thinks that's part of the strategy and he wants to throw head kicks. | ||
| It'd be cool to see. | ||
| Have you seen him kick? | ||
| Yeah, I have. | ||
| He can kick. | ||
| He can kick. | ||
| It's the difference between kicking and practicing and pulling off against a world-class guy like DC. But DC has tendencies, man. | ||
| That's why Jon Jones goes, I'm going to knock him out by head kick. | ||
| Because if you look at the video, DC's here. | ||
| He's down there, man. | ||
| He's susceptible to it. | ||
| So that's why he sees it. | ||
| Did John fake a right hand and then throw that left high kick? | ||
| He was setting it up. | ||
| He was throwing to the body, throwing the body, yeah, and then threw it out, and then you see DC go over and then just whack! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's see if you can find that clip of John Jones KOing DC. Here it is. | ||
| Powerful, Jamie. | ||
| Oh man, just landed it perfect. | ||
| Let me see that one more time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what's interesting about this? | ||
| Sorry, go back to the beginning. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Dude, that was beautiful. | ||
| The way he did that. | ||
| God, I hope John comes back. | ||
| It was beautiful. | ||
| There was like no fat in that at all, man. | ||
| It was beautiful. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom. | ||
| Think how good DC is for him to do that. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Ridiculous, man. | ||
| He smashed him, dude. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| So ridiculous. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| He took a couple extra shots there that he didn't need to take. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of bad blood there. | ||
| Now they're even going back at it on Twitter. | ||
| John Jones. | ||
| Here's the perfect case scenario. | ||
| If you're Scrooge McDuck and you're sitting down and you're looking at the UFC roadmap, you're like, we love Stipe. | ||
| He's been a great champion. | ||
| But if they could plan it like you're fucking Vince McMahon in WWE, you want DC to win, and then John to come back, and at heavyweight, you have DC-John Jones fighting for a world title at heavyweight. | ||
| And then you have Brock going, I got next! | ||
| Wait, in the back going, I got next! | ||
| Q-Q-Q-Q! Ratings, ratings, ratings, ratings, ratings, ratings. | ||
| Going snitch, take a hike. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Let that sink in. | ||
| Another one is, what if John's suspension lasts longer than we think? | ||
| We're assuming that John's going to get a suspension and he's going to be able to come back fairly soon. | ||
| Don't be the no fun, please. | ||
| Well, what if Brock comes in and Brock fights the winner of DC and Stipe? | ||
| Let's just say DC wins. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| Okay, and DC could beat Brock. | ||
| That's an interesting fight. | ||
| DC vs. | ||
| Brock is an interesting fight. | ||
| It's a great fight. | ||
| Brock's got hands as big as his table. | ||
| And he can wrestle his ass off. | ||
| He can wrestle his ass off. | ||
| The question is, can he do it clean at his age? | ||
| Because he took like 12 different tests. | ||
| What's this clean talk, bro? | ||
| We'll figure it out. | ||
| Just like the last one. | ||
| I think if the UFC wants to make that paper, you've got to tell USADA to scram. | ||
| Get out of the picture for this one. | ||
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Hey, go grab a cup of coffee. | |
| It's Brock and John. | ||
| Go grab a fucking cup of coffee. | ||
| No one's gonna ever let that happen. | ||
| We're talking trash. | ||
| This is nonsense talk. | ||
| You're crazy if you think USADA is all clean like the U.S. government or some shit. | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| First of all, you think the U.S. government is clean? | ||
| I'll call Eddie Bravo right now. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| USADA is like the government, son. | ||
| Everything ain't fucking done by the books. | ||
| If I'm Dana, I'm like, open up your glove compartment box. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You keep that, and you keep your greasy mouth shut while these boys come over and punch each other in the face. | ||
| Don't fuck up our ESPN deal. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And who wouldn't want to see that? | ||
| Yeah, maybe ESPN pulls him aside. | ||
| Take him to some smoky room. | ||
| Sit down there with some Cuban cigars. | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| Fine whiskey. | ||
| How long is their deal with USADA? Do we know? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Do we have any idea? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because he had to sign a contract. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I bet there's a countdown in Dana's office just every day. | ||
| 364 days. | ||
| 364 days. | ||
| The whole thing is kind of crazy that it's self-imposed. | ||
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Right? | |
| What are you doing, man? | ||
| Well, it's a great move. | ||
| To sell. | ||
| To sell. | ||
| There's the move. | ||
| Fertitta's so genius. | ||
| Monster. | ||
| Lorenzo's a goddamn genius. | ||
| He figured it out. | ||
| And, you know, now he gets to just be a fan. | ||
| With $4 billion in the bank. | ||
| What? | ||
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What? | |
| He's like, yeah, I know. | ||
| You have to smash a few eggs to make an omelet, man. | ||
| But it's a great success story because those guys were down $40-plus million in the hole when The Ultimate Fighter took off. | ||
| They had lost $40 million. | ||
| What's that to them, though? | ||
| It's enough. | ||
| $40 is $40, but still. | ||
| It's enough. | ||
| If you lost a couple hundred grand, you would survive, but you'd be like, shit. | ||
| I'd be pissed, for sure. | ||
| You'd be like, fuck, this is not good. | ||
| It takes a long time to make that money. | ||
| Especially when I get to my boy to run, and it's fucking up, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Dude, $40 million is $40 million. | ||
| I don't give a fuck who you are. | ||
| Well, if I'm a billionaire, I'm going to be like... | ||
| I don't want that money going away. | ||
| I'm still going home to get my dick sucked. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'm like, God, that sucks. | ||
| Anyways, let me walk into my giant mansion. | ||
| You've got to think of how many different businesses they're running at the same time, though. | ||
| They had like 20 casinos. | ||
| 20 plus casinos. | ||
| Palace stations. | ||
| They had Green Valley Ranch. | ||
| They had Red Rocks. | ||
| Red Rocks is dope. | ||
| Dope. | ||
| They just bought out Palms, too. | ||
| Dope. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Home's a little run down, but whatever. | ||
| The Nine, though. | ||
| That steakhouse there. | ||
| That's one of the best steakhouses in Vegas. | ||
| That place is phenomenal. | ||
| The Ghost Bar used to be dope. | ||
| And the Ghost Bar? | ||
| That's old school. | ||
| I used to do stand-up there. | ||
| I've done stand-up in the Palms. | ||
| In the Ghost Bar? | ||
| There's one of the bars there. | ||
| One of the bars downstairs. | ||
| There's a Laugh Factory in Vegas, right? | ||
| There is now, yeah. | ||
| They're trying to bring it back. | ||
| Dice is there all the time. | ||
| I think it's in the Tropicana. | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| The Laugh Factory in the Tropicana? | ||
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They just opened at the Comedy Cellar. | |
| Yeah, that's in the Rio. | ||
| The Comedy Cellar is supposed to be really good. | ||
| Who's running that though? | ||
| Someone we know is running that, I thought. | ||
| The Comedy Cellar? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Ian's there a lot, though. | ||
| Ian Edwards is doing it. | ||
| He says it's great. | ||
| Vegas, to me, is always a weird vibe. | ||
| Obviously, you're there during a UFC fight. | ||
| We can do your huge fucking stadiums. | ||
| But I'm saying as far as the crowds, usually, if it's not a UFC crowd... | ||
| Yeah, it's a different thing. | ||
| Well, there's so many things to do, first of all. | ||
| Or you compete with Celine Dion. | ||
| I could be on ecstasy right now. | ||
| Why am I here listening to you talk? | ||
| I could be watching Blue Man Group fucking rolling my ass off. | ||
| Why am I here? | ||
| Yeah, there's so many things to do. | ||
| Like... | ||
| Have you ever been to one of those Cirque du Soleil's? | ||
| Sure have. | ||
| Have you been to Love, the one at the MGM? Nope, but I've been to Zumanity with a friend and some drugs, and it was one of the best times ever. | ||
| Ever! | ||
| Ever! | ||
| How about when Disney uses those robot flipper things to do a Cirque du Soleil show? | ||
| How crazy was that? | ||
| I posted this online. | ||
| I saw this article about Disney's making acrobatic robots. | ||
| Dude, these robots flip through the air and land and jump into holes and shit. | ||
| In the middle of the goddamn park? | ||
| These robots that Disney's making, they're animatronic robots, but here's what's fucked up about it. | ||
| What's to stop someone from using these and making like a Super Warrior with the same technology? | ||
| This is all under the guise of Disney! | ||
| These motherfuckers, I know what they're doing. | ||
| So, look at these things, dude. | ||
| That's a robot? | ||
| That's a robot, son. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at it swing, and look at it let go, and tuck, and jump into a hole. | ||
| Yo, dude, that's gonna be a killer robot that we send overseas to fight battles. | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| Fly through the air, and boom. | ||
| This is nuts, man. | ||
| I mean, this is really insane stuff. | ||
| What the fuck are they doing with this? | ||
| They're going to have this at the Pixar parade or some shit for all the kids? | ||
| I think they're going to do this for movies, for shit like that, so that you don't have to risk the lives. | ||
| Stuntman, jobs, see ya. | ||
| Dude, that is so true. | ||
| Stuntman. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Cuts. | ||
| Tate Fletcher. | ||
| Yeah, but Tate's acting. | ||
| He'll slide in. | ||
| He'll be able to make it. | ||
| He's still going to be a character actor. | ||
| That's true. | ||
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He doesn't really do too much CGI face on that. | |
| Disney starts painting faces on there too. | ||
| They're not even going to need people for voices. | ||
| Half of that movie, Logan, the Wolverine movie, he wasn't there. | ||
| What? | ||
| There's a video you can see where they show you how they CGI'd everything. | ||
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He wasn't really there for half of it. | |
| They did it very strangely. | ||
| That movie's depressing anyways. | ||
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Yeah, like... | |
| If you're a Wolverine fan, I was like, God damn, bro. | ||
| He's driving a limo and shit. | ||
| Oh, is that what he's doing after it's over? | ||
| He's like a limo and fucking Xavier. | ||
| Professor X is like in some weird fucking hut dying and it's hot out. | ||
| It'll bum me out, bro. | ||
| Don't watch it. | ||
| It's like that movie The Wrestler. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| Yeah, it bumps you out. | ||
| Depressing. | ||
| X-Men first class all the way. | ||
| Anyways. | ||
| Yeah, Vegas is weird is what we're getting at and Disney's trying to take over the world. | ||
| Disney's about to work with DARPA. That's what's going on, son. | ||
| That's Boston Dynamics or whatever it is. | ||
| What's the company? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Boston Dynamics? | ||
| Disney does everything better than everyone. | ||
|
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He's not doing that this show. | |
| It all breaks down. | ||
| This is all a robot? | ||
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It wasn't just a stunt double guy. | |
| What fucking hater released this? | ||
| Oh, so the stunt double guy does this? | ||
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And then they put him on top of that. | |
| What? | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
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Him being a... | |
| Oh, look at that. | ||
| They just have his face. | ||
| So if you can make a robot do all that stuff, then you could easily just put his face on there. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Hugh Jackman got super jacked. | ||
| Bro, he's on that VTour diet for that. | ||
| He got so swole at once more. | ||
| But why not? | ||
| But he doesn't look like that anymore. | ||
| Like in this one, he wasn't that swole. | ||
| No, he had to do America's Greatest Showman. | ||
| He can't be all jacked singing and shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they just mapped out his face. | ||
| But the thing is, if you see him... | ||
| In this one, he doesn't look as jacked as he did in like the earlier ones. | ||
| Well, he's older. | ||
| He's older than Wolverine. | ||
| That's what he's supposed to be, right? | ||
| Because if his body can recuperate from anything, why the fuck is he aging? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Why is he aging like that? | ||
| Stanley, come on. | ||
| Where he's losing some of his muscle, but he's still throwing people through the air like they're ragdolls. | ||
| What are we talking about? | ||
| He gets shot and recovers right away, but his fucking joints hurt? | ||
| His arthritis? | ||
| Is that what's happening? | ||
| Did he have arthritis? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, he moves like it these days. | ||
| I don't know if he officially does. | ||
| I'm just saying, it doesn't make sense. | ||
| How about they come out with another fucking Spider-Man? | ||
| Oh, thank God. | ||
| They need a new Spider-Man. | ||
| They never want to pay Peter Parker. | ||
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Dude! | |
| When Peter Parker starts getting big, they go, yeah, well, guess what? | ||
| We're going to reboot it. | ||
| They just keep rebooting it. | ||
| They keep telling the same story over and over again with subtle differences. | ||
| My Spider-Man's Tobey Maguire, you fucks. | ||
| You fucks. | ||
| Anyone else kick off. | ||
| I'll tell you what, though. | ||
| The only time that that's worked, though? | ||
| The Hulk. | ||
| Yeah, they've done it a bunch. | ||
| They started off with that Australian dude from Chopper. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Eric Bana. | ||
| Eric Bana. | ||
| He was number one. | ||
| Wasn't thrilled about him as the Hulk. | ||
| Not his fault. | ||
| It wasn't his fault. | ||
| It wasn't the best movie. | ||
| Bad script. | ||
| And then Ed Norton. | ||
| Pretty good as a Hulk. | ||
| Fan of Ed Norton. | ||
| I was like, okay, I can buy this. | ||
| But then Mark Ruffalo, best Hulk. | ||
| Best Hulk. | ||
| I believe him. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I believe he's really a scientist. | ||
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Me too. | |
| Mark Ruffalo's a beast. | ||
| I believe he really understands genetics, you know? | ||
| Yeah, you gotta do that. | ||
| Like Christian Bale's the best Batman. | ||
| You're talking about real actors. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Sorry, Ben Affleck. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| How about Michael Keaton was Batman? | ||
| Who the fuck casted? | ||
| Michael Keaton was a good goddamn Batman. | ||
| How are you going to cast Michael Keaton? | ||
| How about this? | ||
| George Clooney's Batman, too. | ||
| He's a fucking Mr. Steal Your Girl. | ||
| I bought George Clooney. | ||
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Did you? | |
| I didn't buy it for a second. | ||
| Oh, when Jim Carrey was the Riddler and then Tommy Lee Jones was Two-Face. | ||
| Those are the best Batmans. | ||
| When they were like, oh, we need to make this more real. | ||
| I'm like, fuck you. | ||
| I liked Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Who was the Riddler? | ||
| Jim Carrey was the Riddler when who was Batman? | ||
| George Clooney. | ||
| Batman Returns, bro. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But Christian Bale's better. | ||
| Or Batman Forever, sorry. | ||
| Christian Bale's a better Batman. | ||
| It's too real. | ||
| Do you know Christian Bale was Batman only like six months after he was the machinist? | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really insane. | ||
| I mean, he was down to like almost nothing. | ||
| He was dying. | ||
| He was eating like a can of tuna and an apple a day. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| You know what kind of willpower you have to have to let your body literally rot away to this skinny thing for a movie? | ||
| Just for a movie. | ||
| You don't have anorexia. | ||
| You don't have a disease. | ||
| Think how much you love the craft of acting to do that. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Everybody's trying to be the Joker these days, though. | ||
| That's like the big one. | ||
| Tony Hinchcliffe. | ||
| He's trying. | ||
| He wants to be. | ||
| Jared Leto went, excuse me, Tony, take a hike. | ||
| Tony wants to be the Joker. | ||
| Yeah, so look, he went from that to that. | ||
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121 to 195. That's all natural. | |
| That's insane. | ||
|
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There was another movie in between, I think. | |
| Oh, there was? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| The equilibrium, it said, there's another picture here. | ||
| Dude, you're telling me that's not photoshopped at all on the left? | ||
|
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No, that's what he looked like. | |
| No, that's what he really looked like. | ||
| That is so unhealthy. | ||
| Oh, dude, it takes years off your life. | ||
| I mean, you're putting unbelievable stress on your organs. | ||
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He's such a good actor. | |
| He's a beast. | ||
| He's English, you know that? | ||
| I thought he was Australian. | ||
| Is he? | ||
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I think he's English. | |
| Is he? | ||
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I think so. | |
| The best actors are English, bro. | ||
| A lot of them are Australian. | ||
| They'll throw you for a loop, like Chris Hemsworth. | ||
| But Jackman, like as an actor, like Christian Bale, he does some stuff. | ||
| Wolverine? | ||
| Look, I'm a fan. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| But Christian Bale does some stuff like in American Psycho. | ||
| Okay, that's another one. | ||
| When he was in The Fighter? | ||
| When he played Mickey Ward's brother. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Dude. | ||
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He's up and down the whole time. | |
| 185, 121, 190, 135, 190, 145. Him in Reign of Fire, he is bodied the fuck up. | ||
| Yeah, so he got down skinny again to play Mickey Ward's brother. | ||
| A meth addict, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I forget Mickey Ward's brother, but his brother fought Sugar Ray Leonard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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This was in between, too. | |
| Rescue Don, I don't know. | ||
| I never saw that one. | ||
| He's such a beast. | ||
| That dragon movie was dope for one of them silly dumb movies. | ||
| Which dragon movie? | ||
| He was in a dragon movie. | ||
| What was the dragon movie he was in? | ||
| Wasn't he in a dragon movie with Matthew McConaughey? | ||
| It was in the future. | ||
| Yeah, everybody had to live underground. | ||
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Did you do all the drugs? | |
| I did them all. | ||
| They had to live. | ||
|
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That was it. | |
| Reign of Fire. | ||
| Oh, Reign of Fire. | ||
|
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With dragons? | |
| Yeah, that's the dragon movie. | ||
| I've never heard that. | ||
| That's where Reign of Fire is. | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| There's a dragon movie. | ||
| Yeah, Matthew McConaughey's jacked in that movie. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Super jacked. | ||
| See, he got super skinny for Dallas Buyers Club when he had AIDS. Yeah, he did it too. | ||
| He's another one. | ||
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Yes. | |
| See if you get a picture of Matthew McConaughey jacked. | ||
| Dude, I heard rumors about Tom Hardy. | ||
| Shirtless. | ||
| Matthew McConaughey, shirtless, Reign of Fire. | ||
| See, right there in that picture where he's got a vest on? | ||
| Look how jacked he looks. | ||
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Damn. | |
| Yeah, he was jacked for this movie. | ||
| I've never heard of that movie. | ||
| It's a dumb movie. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Is it bad? | ||
| It's just dumb. | ||
| It's so dumb it's entertaining. | ||
| It's silly, you know, that these dragons fuck everybody up and, you know. | ||
| Dude, remember how bad I used to hate on dragons until I watched Game of Thrones? | ||
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I would clown on all you guys for watching dragons. | |
| I watched Game of Thrones. | ||
| That dragon burns, spoiler alert, you fucks, been out for nine years. | ||
| He burns that fucking frozen wall. | ||
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Woo! | |
| I'm talking standing ovation. | ||
| I was in the middle of my living room, slow clapping. | ||
| Those dragons are fucking scary. | ||
| The one turns into a fucking White Walker? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Make it dick hard. | ||
| It ends and his eye just goes, and it's a White Walker eye. | ||
| Everybody who works on that show, listen to me. | ||
| Don't ever cancel it. | ||
| Just keep going. | ||
| You're never gonna do anything better than that. | ||
| It's the greatest show of all time. | ||
| I don't know what you're thinking. | ||
| Just write some new episodes. | ||
| Figure out some new shit. | ||
| It's the greatest show of all time. | ||
| They just rap? | ||
| No! | ||
| They rap? | ||
| No, they'll be back. | ||
| God damn, look at that Mr. Stewart. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Matthew McConaughey jacked! | ||
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Jacked! | |
| He's jacked! | ||
| I feel like for me to get that skinny and thin, I would have to go on some... | ||
| I'd have to get some role like Dallas Buyers Club. | ||
| Look at that one right above that. | ||
| Right above that? | ||
| Right above your cursor? | ||
| Right there. | ||
| Right there. | ||
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Someone different. | |
| Oh, who's that? | ||
| That's Bradley Cooper. | ||
| Bradley Cooper, bodied up too, son. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| But wouldn't you do all the steroids to play these roles? | ||
| I think they call me to be Batman. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, yeah, all right, let me go down to Gold's Gym, see what I can do. | ||
| Yeah, you would have to. | ||
| You would have to. | ||
| You'd have to go on the carnivore diet, drop your body fat down. | ||
| Why wouldn't you, though? | ||
| Yeah, intermittent fasting. | ||
| Yeah, just the whole... | ||
| Cryo every day. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yeah, you'd be training camp. | ||
| Get shredded. | ||
| Be training camp. | ||
| You'd want to have that scene where you're putting on your fucking outfit, and you're just fucking... | ||
| Oh, I'd be like, we need more scenes where I'm shirtless. | ||
| Oh, Ryan Reynolds? | ||
| Is that Ryan Reynolds? | ||
| No, that's Blade. | ||
| That's Blade. | ||
| Blade 3. That's Ryan Reynolds in Blade 3. But who's that guy? | ||
| Not this, it's just another guy. | ||
| That's next level. | ||
| See, that's what you gotta try for. | ||
| That's what you gotta try for. | ||
| No one ever tries for that. | ||
| Dude, chicks don't dig that though. | ||
| Other dudes dig that. | ||
| Shut your fucking mouth. | ||
| We dig that. | ||
| Shut your fucking mouth. | ||
| They say that because they're trying to make you feel better. | ||
| Oh my god, I think it's so gross. | ||
| I like guys that are soft like you. | ||
| I like to grab your back and feel a little fat. | ||
| Look at Ryan Reynolds with his fucking Apex. | ||
| Disgusto. | ||
| Oh my god, get it away. | ||
| I mean, I definitely don't want his dick in my mouth. | ||
| Eat up, babe. | ||
| I like to feel a little belly fat on my nose. | ||
| Get a A full rack of ribs. | ||
| Now fuck in the shake. | ||
| Watch it down with the shake. | ||
| I like a man who's just relaxed like me and doesn't want to do much. | ||
| That's what I like. | ||
| Please do. | ||
| They're trying to make you feel good. | ||
| They're trying to make you feel good. | ||
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I'm not fat. | |
| All I'm saying is... | ||
| I'm not saying you are fat. | ||
| We're both fat compared to that guy. | ||
| Dude, both of us are fucking Adele compared to that guy. | ||
| I'm saying that's unrealistic. | ||
| That's too much. | ||
| Someone has body image issues. | ||
| No, I'm saying that's too much. | ||
| You're like one of them girls that get planes about chicks with little waist and big tits. | ||
| Oh my god, I have body image issues. | ||
| Oh no, I appreciate men more than people think I'm gay. | ||
| I appreciate so many men. | ||
| I have body image issues because of these women that are unattainable. | ||
| They have these unattainable bodies and it's fucked up. | ||
| You're putting a standard on women. | ||
| That's not real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I had a friend once that said this. | ||
| She was talking about someone's girlfriend. | ||
| She's like, ugh, I just wish she had a real girlfriend, like a real woman. | ||
| I go, what are you talking about? | ||
| And she's like, look, look who he's dating. | ||
| It's a typical pretty girl with blonde hair and a nice body. | ||
| Like, you know, why doesn't he have a real girlfriend? | ||
| I go, what is a real girlfriend? | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| People are real people. | ||
| You're hating on someone because they're attracted? | ||
| Because it's not you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why would you assume that she's not super nice and really friendly and really smart? | ||
| Because you're prejudiced. | ||
| Because you're just looking at her and deciding that you're hating. | ||
| Now, is she a dumbass? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| But does that matter? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It does not matter. | ||
| It's all right. | ||
| She might not be as smart as you. | ||
| How much of that is her fault? | ||
| This is as I've gotten older and wiser, even when I meet dumb people. | ||
| I'm like, how much of it is really their fault? | ||
| Maybe they're just not into that stuff. | ||
| Or maybe they just got a bad roll of the dice with life and with genetics and the whole ball of wax. | ||
| Sometimes a bad roll of the dice is you're genetically gifted if you're a girl or a guy and you look super pretty and things come easy to you and you never have to read a book or get balls deep into a sport or something like that. | ||
| And to me, that can be a curse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, there's a curse to that because then things get easy. | ||
| Like, you want your daughters, you don't want to be tens. | ||
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Right. | |
| You want, like, sevens. | ||
| Strong seven. | ||
| Strong seven. | ||
| Where, like, there's certain guys' types, but they still got to educate themselves. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, you don't want to blow out asses and big titties. | ||
| You want to just, like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Oh, yeah, for sure. | ||
| You don't want Nicki Minaj as your daughter. | ||
| In that 10, the 10's a sprint. | ||
| 7 is an ultramarathon. | ||
| Yeah, to me, they have a long road. | ||
| 7 can stay a 7 for many, many, many years. | ||
| It's all good. | ||
| Especially like aging or black. | ||
| Go to the gym. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They could hang in there. | ||
| But they got to work for it. | ||
| Like, you don't want to just give it to them. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| The problem with some 10s that go to 8s can't handle it. | ||
| Well, even when they're eights, they're still hot, but in their mind... | ||
| Yeah, but in their mind, they're not anymore, and they get really freaked out by it. | ||
| Old Testarossa? | ||
| It was hot in the 80s! | ||
| They're so hot. | ||
| They were tens in the 80s. | ||
| This one, they had the gated shifter. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| You drive one now, you're like, what the fuck is going on here? | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| It's a Fred Flintstone Ferrari. | ||
| Do I have to get out and do this? | ||
| No. | ||
| But meanwhile, they're worth like a million dollars or something stupid. | ||
| Yeah, I tried buying one. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
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Did you? | |
| I wanted one. | ||
| I go on these weird fucking... | ||
| I almost bought a DeLorean the other day. | ||
| I knew a lady who had an old Ferrari. | ||
| She bought an old Ferrari. | ||
| In like 2015, she bought like one that was the one from Magnum PI. Oh, the 364? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| It's a cool little car, but it was just always braking. | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
| You know, those things, they're just not gonna... | ||
| You can't drive across country in that car. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not if somebody's been driving it every year. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They'd be fun, though. | ||
| I'd like to have a bunch of cars. | ||
| I would like to have a bunch of cars, too. | ||
| You do have a bunch of cars. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Don't jump into this conversation. | ||
| I'm still hustling. | ||
| Hey, don't try relating to me on this. | ||
| I'm hustling, too, dude. | ||
| You're fucking hustling your ass up, but you have all the cars. | ||
| I don't have all the cars. | ||
| You know what I've been getting into, man? | ||
| Old, plain-looking BMW M3s. | ||
| Like an E46 M3. Oh, wow. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm down for that. | ||
| Dude, get an 8 Series with that V12. Maybe, but I'm talking about old cars. | ||
| I'm talking about like a 2005. Me too. | ||
| That 8 Series, I'm talking like 1994, bro. | ||
| V12. That's when the lights go up. | ||
| Yeah, that thing's sick. | ||
| That's where I draw the line, when the lights go up. | ||
| Can't do it, son. | ||
| Tess Rosa of the BMW. You liked the 95.3 series? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like when they came to that canary yellow? | ||
| I did. | ||
| I did like those. | ||
| I liked the ones with the big wing in the back. | ||
| Yeah, those were cool. | ||
| The M3 with the wing in the back. | ||
| Everyone loved those. | ||
| Tiny ass little car too, man. | ||
| You go near those cars today, they don't make anything that small anymore. | ||
| Or not. | ||
| No, BMW doesn't at least. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Those white lights on the side, so European. | ||
| That's a dope looking... | ||
| That's an E36, right? | ||
| That's an E36 BMW? Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Google Silver E46 BMW. You thinking about getting one of those? | ||
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I'm thinking about it. | |
| Out of all the cars? | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| Well, that's your style, I guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you going to buy it to run into a wall or something? | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| You know what I like about that? | ||
| That's not a 95. Yes, it's 2005. What I like about that, yeah. | ||
| That's not a 2005. Yeah, it is. | ||
| It's an E46. The back's different. | ||
| No, that's what they look like. | ||
| That's an M3. That's exactly what it looks like. | ||
| I'm a fan of the model. | ||
| It's a very plain looking car. | ||
| You know what some people do with those? | ||
| They just juice the shit out of the engine and change the suspension and the thing about it It's a light small car that like moves. | ||
| Well, I think that car probably only weighs about 3,000 pounds like Google how much does a 2005 BMW M3 where those old Porsches are like fuck to though, man Just Google how much does it weigh? | ||
| Was it the weight? | ||
| I mean, we could go buy 10 of these right now, Joe. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| 3,400 pounds. | ||
| So that's pretty light in comparison to like a new one. | ||
| I bet the new ones are 300 or 400 pounds heavier than that. | ||
| That's a big deal. | ||
| The new ones are way faster. | ||
| Way faster. | ||
| Way cooler, let's be real. | ||
| But they take these and they put crazy engines in them and juice them up because it's a smaller car. | ||
| That's one of the original cars I remember kids just fucking jacking up with a big exhaust on. | ||
| You buy the shirts. | ||
| Do you ever see a kid that spends so much money on a really shitty Accord and puts crazy... | ||
| Or a Civic? | ||
| I'm like, bro, just because they sell it at Pep Boys doesn't mean you have to put it on the goddamn car. | ||
| Why do you have all that shit all over the car? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| And why? | ||
| And it was so loud. | ||
| I'm like, car's not even fast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's... | |
| They have that horrible four-cylinder drone. | ||
| Those kids thought they were so cool. | ||
| Well, I guess it's cooler than the car as it is. | ||
| No, probably not even. | ||
| Because what it is is just transportation. | ||
| You're supposed to just accept what it is. | ||
| It's peacocking. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, you're like, look at this. | ||
| And the girls are like... | ||
| Again, you're not doing that for girls. | ||
| You're doing that for dudes. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Other dudes are like, oh, that's pretty cool. | ||
| Girls are like, what the fuck is that thing? | ||
| Yeah, look at that. | ||
| Honda Civic. | ||
| Nothing makes my dick go limp like that. | ||
| Like a Civic. | ||
| They can make those things fairly fast, though, can't they? | ||
| Yeah, I just started... | ||
| The SI one you're talking about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What is that Ford Focus GT? Is that that little tiny car that's supposed to go fast as fuck? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a tiny little car, right? | ||
| You want something like that, though. | ||
| You want that Subaru WRX STI. The Ford? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How much does that thing weigh? | ||
| That's a tiny little car, right? | ||
| That thing looks like shit. | ||
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It does. | |
| It does. | ||
| 3,200 pounds is a tiny little car. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Dude, you brought up 95 BMWs, Ford Focuses, and Civics. | ||
| Well, you know, man, you know I have that white car, the white 911 RS? Fuck yeah. | ||
| That car, it ruins me for everything else. | ||
| Because it's so light. | ||
| That car only weighs 3,000 pounds. | ||
| That thing's insane. | ||
| Ruins me for everything else. | ||
| Nothing else fun to drive? | ||
| Everything's fun. | ||
| I love cars. | ||
| Different. | ||
| That thing is just a different animal. | ||
| It's like the difference between a dog and a cheetah. | ||
| Like, one of them is like, dogs run pretty good. | ||
| They do a pretty good job. | ||
| But then you get to cheat and you're like, Jesus. | ||
| Not even a dog. | ||
| Yeah, that's weird. | ||
| But what if you got a 911T? How light's a 911T and then send it to Sharkworth just to blow the ass out the front? | ||
| Oh, one of the new ones you mean? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That thing's light as fuck. | ||
| They're very light. | ||
| Yeah, the 911Ts. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure they could do something like that. | ||
| Yeah, because you know they don't have handles. | ||
| They have nothing. | ||
| They have no back seats. | ||
| They're super light. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What did they get them down to? | ||
| I forget, but... | ||
| Is it GT3 weights? | ||
| I want to say they're lighter, aren't they? | ||
| They have a GT3 touring package. | ||
| I want that thing so bad. | ||
| Yeah, so it's GT3 without the crazy wing, and it just... | ||
| Because most of the people are not taking them on a track. | ||
| You're just driving a fast car around town. | ||
| I'm 35. I can have that thing. | ||
| So the GT... 3200. Is this the GT3 or this the T? That's the T. 3200. That's pretty goddamn light. | ||
| For a Porsche? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Zero to sixty for 3.4 seconds. | ||
| Yeah, but you can soup that fucking thing up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| What is the horsepower? | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| See, what they're doing with... | ||
| Yeah, that's a 370. That's not even the S engine. | ||
| No, man. | ||
| That's the regular engine. | ||
| They're all turbo now, though. | ||
| Go to 911 GT3 Touring. | ||
| I bet that's just as light, but that's got like 500 horsepower. | ||
| Dude, that's my next ride, I think. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| I either want that or a McLaren, man. | ||
| Well, you have that GTS, which is a very fast car, too. | ||
| It's fucking great. | ||
| There was a big article about one of those recently. | ||
| I know. | ||
| People, they say it's one of the best, like, daily driver's portals ever made. | ||
| Wow, that's 3,100 pounds, son. | ||
| Bro, 500 pounds. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| 500 horsepower, 3,100 pounds. | ||
| That thing must be amazing. | ||
| This is what I want to do. | ||
| I want to get a Touring. | ||
| I want to order it. | ||
| I want it in that mint green. | ||
| Look how pretty that is. | ||
| They just nailed that shape. | ||
| You know, I love... | ||
| It's one of the more interesting things about cars is just the physical shapes. | ||
| Like what they've managed to make iconic. | ||
| The Porsche is such an iconic shape. | ||
| They don't need to do anything. | ||
| They do little subtle changes to the back and the exhaust. | ||
| That doesn't bother me. | ||
| Yeah, they just keep kind of tweaking it a little bit, but they keep that shape. | ||
| Like, every 911 looks like a 911. Like, if you look at a 2019 Mustang, and then you look at a 1965 Mustang, you're like, how do I know this is the same thing? | ||
| I know. | ||
| You can barely tell this is the same thing. | ||
| But you could have a 911 next to, like, you could have that 964 that's like a 91 next to a 2019, and you can go, oh, I see. | ||
| They're both 911s. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the only car that I can think of like that. | ||
| Because old Ferraris don't look like new Ferraris at all. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| I guess the new Challengers look like a little bit like the old Challenger. | ||
| Yeah, they retro-ed it out a little bit. | ||
| Camaros, they're trying to go back to it. | ||
| Camaros did like a new take on it. | ||
| The newest ones, even... | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Ooh, son! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| That is a GT3 RS in all green. | ||
| Seinfeld gets like those and shit. | ||
| That's an amazing car, man. | ||
| That car is more than 500 horsepower. | ||
| I think that thing's got 520. And they're so light and just designed for track. | ||
| You like that? | ||
| You think you're a dickhead for driving around town? | ||
| Oh, yeah, for sure. | ||
| Lime green. | ||
| You have a lime green car that says GT3RS on it. | ||
| Dude, mine says GTS and it's fucking hot orange. | ||
| You should only wear golf club shirts from exclusive golf clubs that no one could join. | ||
| And then have those loafers on with no socks. | ||
| Just smell like aqua velvet. | ||
| Just beating the shit out of everyone on the road. | ||
| You should smell like, what's that, what is it called when you pass down money to your kids? | ||
| They have one of those accounts. | ||
| What are those accounts? | ||
| Trust funds. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| Smell like a trust fund? | ||
| Smell like a trust fund. | ||
| I'll tell you what, man. | ||
| All the handicaps you get in life, one of the biggest handicaps you get is a trust fund. | ||
| There's something that happens to kids, at least most of the ones that I've ever heard of. | ||
| Not just security, but a large income just given to them by their parents. | ||
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| Where they don't have to work on it? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, I read a statistic the other day. | ||
| It's like they're 400% more likely to die before the age of 40 when they have that much money. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
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400%. | |
| 400%. | ||
| I know a couple people that have had one of those deals. | ||
| And did you like them? | ||
| No, they were a mess. | ||
| They fucking suck. | ||
| I felt sad for them. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They felt like they weren't really done. | ||
| Like if you're an egg and you still got that gooey stuff on top, it's like it's not quite done. | ||
| Rich kids are counting on inheritance to pay for retirement. | ||
| Well-off young people... | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Where are you going? | ||
| Well-off young people say they need money from relatives and friends to guarantee their golden years stay golden. | ||
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What? | |
| See, that's just click-baity. | ||
| That's just some click-baity shit. | ||
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I just saw this article the other day. | |
| You guys just mentioned it. | ||
| It's like 63% of them or something. | ||
| Oh, 63% of affluent children between the ages of 18 and 22 say financial stability retirement will depend on inheriting money. | ||
| You know, it's just, that's one of the things that Tim Kennedy said when he was on the podcast. | ||
| He said, hard times make hard men, hard men make easy times, easy times make soft men. | ||
| Preach, Tim Kennedy. | ||
| To preach. | ||
| But what do you do with your kids? | ||
| Like, my kids grow up in Santa Monica. | ||
| Martial arts. | ||
| Martial arts. | ||
| For the girls, you think they're going to be balls deep in martial arts so they're like in ninth grade? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I think you've got to get a certain amount of actual hard work in your life. | ||
| I think martial arts are going to do that for them. | ||
| I think there's something to it. | ||
| There's something to valuing goals and to working towards things and then being in difficult situations. | ||
| We could say sports though. | ||
| Sports, yes. | ||
| Sports in general. | ||
| Yes, for sure. | ||
| I think all sports. | ||
| But I think martial arts in particular, it's more personal. | ||
| Like when someone strangles you, when someone gets your back and then sinks that fucking body triangle on you and you're fighting it off and then they get you and you have to tap, that's very personal. | ||
| You'll get humbled for sure. | ||
| Right, but most people don't deal with those kind of things in life. | ||
| I think the experience of dealing with those things in life is very valuable because you can relax more. | ||
| You can relax more. | ||
| You know, there's some people... | ||
| Confidence. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, well, it's not just that. | ||
| You've experienced bad things. | ||
| Bad things in terms of, like, bad defeats, losses, getting smushed, having to tap. | ||
| There's a lot of people that have never... | ||
| Like, how many times have you ever rolled with a guy that never rolled before? | ||
| And the moment you start rolling with him, you get him on his back, and they start hyperventilating, and they're panicking. | ||
| They panic, because they've never been there before. | ||
| Professional football players, basketball players I've rolled with, and they get down, they're like, oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| They realize they can't get up. | ||
| And then you start closing the gap on them. | ||
| My only problem with martial arts, if you're just going to go down that road, is when you're in that dojo where the fuck you're doing the martial arts, when they leave, they know that not many people have seen it. | ||
| If you and I are rolling and we don't know each other and you tap me out, I leave there. | ||
| Not too many people see it. | ||
| The other class might see it. | ||
| When you're in professional sports and we're playing basketball or football and the game's on the line and I get embarrassed because I dropped the ball or I whiffed and struck out and the entire audience sees it and I have to deal with that and then come back from it. | ||
| And be like, alright, I can deal with this, man. | ||
| I fucking struck out. | ||
| I play a game next week. | ||
| I gotta go through class. | ||
| People can make fun of me. | ||
| I'll figure this out. | ||
| To me, that builds a little something different. | ||
| Yeah, it's also teamwork, right? | ||
| That's a big part of life. | ||
| Big part of life is being able to work with other people. | ||
| Being able to perform under pressure. | ||
| But also facing that adversity and knowing, because if you tap me out, when I go to school, no one knows that. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It's whatever. | ||
| When my class knows I threw an interception, like, fuck, shopped through that interception, man. | ||
| Monday, everyone's like, dude, what happened? | ||
| You're like, I know, I know. | ||
| Wait till Friday. | ||
| We'll see what happens Friday. | ||
| Yeah, Bill Buckner had to leave Boston. | ||
| He had to go in like fucking... | ||
| He had to go into hiding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The ball went between his legs. | ||
| Everybody freaked out. | ||
| Dude, I remember people walking around. | ||
| Dude, people were walking around the neighborhood while that was like fucking kicking the snow and angry. | ||
| They were just so angry. | ||
| People were leaving their houses. | ||
| It was like there was reports of it all over Boston that people would just slam. | ||
| They couldn't deal with it anymore. | ||
| They would just slam the car, the front door rather, and just walk out into the street. | ||
| Like, what the fuck? | ||
| Everybody out there smoking, looking at each other like, how the fuck did he drop that ball? | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Imagine you'd be that guy. | ||
| Tragic. | ||
| Look, all of it is rough. | ||
| I think sports are definitely great for kids, for anybody developing. | ||
| Even for adults, I think they're good. | ||
| I think competition's good. | ||
| The problem with people is they get nervous about trying new things or doing things. | ||
| And I think one of the things that gets you over nerves is having done difficult shit before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And one of the things about jujitsu is that that's such a claustrophobic feeling. | ||
| When you're locked up in a triangle, and you're just trying to get a hand in there to protect you, and you're feeling the squeeze, and you're like, fuck, I might have to tap, and you make your way out of it. | ||
| Being able to do that in your life, knowing I've been in a bad spot before, knowing someone's been on top of me before and I didn't think I'd get up, I think it's a very valuable thing for people to experience. | ||
| And I think it's a good thing for people to learn. | ||
| If you could start out as a white belt and just deal with that stuff that you get up until blue belt and purple belt, where you start developing some skills and putting some taps down, if you You can get through that, man. | ||
| You can get through anything. | ||
| A guy who can get to purple belt or a girl who can get to black belt or brown belt, those people, that man, that woman that can get that far, they can do a lot of shit. | ||
| Goddamn, bro. | ||
| That a lot of people can't do. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I think giving your kids that opportunity is a massive thing. | ||
| And I know your kid's going to learn how to fight. | ||
| How the fuck is your kid not going to learn how to fight? | ||
| Already it's an issue. | ||
| Because I watch a lot of fights, so when I come in the house, Right when I get home today, because he sees all the fighters, boxers, and UFC guys, they fight with their shirts off. | ||
| When I walk in, he goes, Papa! | ||
| Papa! | ||
| He takes his shirt off and goes, Papa! | ||
| I'll show you a video of him hitting mitts. | ||
| I'm like, I don't know what to do. | ||
| Encourage him. | ||
| Yeah, kind of. | ||
| You don't have to fight, son. | ||
| He only does it with me. | ||
| Daddy made good. | ||
| Yeah, he only does it with me. | ||
| Daddy's got a goddamn hit podcast. | ||
| You're not getting hit in the head. | ||
| Daddy's touring. | ||
| Daddy's on the road. | ||
| Daddy's selling out. | ||
| Yeah, Daddy's selling out. | ||
| But, like, you seen Eddie Bravo's kid do martial arts? | ||
| Yeah, Beast. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| You seen Henner's? | ||
| I haven't. | ||
| That motherfucker's on a teddy bear. | ||
| Henner just posted, he's on a teddy bear doing, like, arm bars. | ||
| Arm bars on teddy bears. | ||
| And he's, you know... | ||
| Eddie does drills with his kid. | ||
| He posts videos of drills he does with his kid. | ||
| His kid is learning the system. | ||
| I think that's good. | ||
| Fuck yeah! | ||
| His kid's gonna be an assassin. | ||
| You know what kind of jujitsu Eddie Bravo's kid's gonna have? | ||
| Pretty gnarly. | ||
| Because he's around his kid all the time. | ||
| Eddie is a diligent father. | ||
| He loves being a dad. | ||
| Here's Henner's little boy. | ||
| This is Henner's kid. | ||
| He gets the mount! | ||
| Look at this shit. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| That is hilarious. | ||
| He takes the back. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| He's like two and a half, I want to say. | ||
| That is hilarious. | ||
| This kid is taking the back at two and a half. | ||
| That is so funny. | ||
| This is hilarious. | ||
| He is the best teacher in the world. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| No one explains it better than Henner. | ||
| I think Henner, too, this is like his biggest pupil in terms of jujitsu. | ||
| I mean, obviously, Ronda Rousey was his most famous pupil. | ||
| Look at that arm bar that kid's got. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Ronda had an arm bar before she got there. | ||
| She did. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But Brian Ortega has everything. | ||
| He's got everything. | ||
| He can choke you. | ||
| He can take your back. | ||
| He can fight you off his back. | ||
| Brian came in there and didn't know anything. | ||
| He was a tough gang member, wannabe. | ||
| Well, I shouldn't say wannabe. | ||
| He was a tough gang member from the streets. | ||
| Couldn't afford it, so Henner took him under his wing. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| And now he's the number one featherweight in the world, not named Max Holloway. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Such a cool story. | ||
| Henner's such a good instructor, man. | ||
| I love listening to him talk to. | ||
| He's so enthusiastic. | ||
| He's contagious. | ||
| He does those videos online. | ||
| He could sell anything. | ||
| We're going to make watermelon juice, guys. | ||
| Come on, this is what we're going to do. | ||
| You're like, okay, watermelon juice. | ||
| I've had a lot of coaches since I was a very young kid, and I've never had anyone as far as a better coach than Henner Gracie. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| They're from the source, man. | ||
| I mean, think about that. | ||
| Yeah, but there's a lot of those guys from the source, but they're not Henner. | ||
| And all those guys are great, but as far as egos and just being like, you can hang out with Henner anywhere. | ||
| And he's like a great time. | ||
| And he knows a thing or two about everything. | ||
| He's like, did you say surfing? | ||
| And he has a black belt in surfing. | ||
| Fruit. | ||
| He knows sushi. | ||
| Didn't he open up his own place now? | ||
| He has his own jiu-jitsu place? | ||
| Yeah, they left his dad's place. | ||
| They went right up the street. | ||
| Now him and his... | ||
| in Huron. | ||
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Huron? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's amazing. | ||
| Where's that at? | ||
| It's right up the street. | ||
| It's still in Torrance. | ||
| Very close. | ||
| The facility's ridiculous. | ||
| Is the old place still open? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I don't know the details on that, but I know Henner and Hiran are doing their own thing now, and they're killing it. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Yeah, dude, it's very lucrative in Southern California. | ||
| Think about how many jiu-jitsu schools. | ||
| Especially if you're, I mean, Henner and Hiran. | ||
| Top of the food chain. | ||
| But as far as business mind, too, that's what makes Henner so special. | ||
| His business mind is insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He started at the Gracie University. | ||
| That was all his concept. | ||
| Is it really? | ||
| He came up with that. | ||
| Well, listen, for someone who lives in the middle of the country, that's a great thing. | ||
| I mean, it's not as good as being instructed by him. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But if you live in the middle of the country and you don't have access to other instruction, that is a great thing. | ||
| Snowed in Wyoming or some shit and you can go online. | ||
| Is that a real place? | ||
| Snowed in Wyoming? | ||
| Well, if you're snowed in. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Sounds like a town, though. | ||
| Sounds like a nice place. | ||
|
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It does. | |
| Like a ski resort. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Snowden? | ||
| You ever been to Snowden? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We go to Snowden every year with the McGraws. | ||
| I love Snowden. | ||
| Yeah, we fly. | ||
| Snowden. | ||
| We fly together. | ||
| We drink cocktails. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Snowden. | ||
| We're going to Snowden. | ||
| I'm going to wear my fur. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
|
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I'm wearing my fur for PETA. It sounds like a legit place. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It does. | ||
| Have you ever been to Wyoming? | ||
| I've been to Wyoming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, I just went to Idaho for the first time. | ||
| I was just in Boise. | ||
| How was that? | ||
| Oh, you met the Black Rifle guys. | ||
| Matt Best. | ||
| Great guys. | ||
| How great to see. | ||
| They're all great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They were awesome. | ||
| Did you go hunt with them or no? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Hunt with those motherfuckers. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They hunt humans, but yeah. | ||
| Hey, that's not what I want to do. | ||
| I'm just saying, if you're not humans, you can hunt fucking elk or... | ||
| Yeah, a lot of those guys who used to hunt humans become hunters. | ||
| It helps them sort of cope with society. | ||
| They also have, you know, they have a special skill set. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit of that. | ||
| They're very good with the guns. | ||
| Not even with just guns. | ||
| A lot of them get into bow hunting, in fact. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| A lot of them. | ||
| I figured you and Matt would get along. | ||
| Yeah, great guy. | ||
| Great guy, right? | ||
| Yeah, and their coffee's badass, man. | ||
| It's delicious shit. | ||
| I got my own coffee coming out. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's what I heard, kid. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Black Rifle Coffee, Brennan Shop version. | ||
| What are they calling it? | ||
| The Big Brown Blend? | ||
| Big Brown Coffee. | ||
| Big Brown Coffee. | ||
| It's my own brand. | ||
| How about Big Brown Blend? | ||
| I like that too. | ||
| It's Big Brown Coffee Co. | ||
| I like that too. | ||
| Big Brown Coffee Co. | ||
| Black Rifle. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Your own brand? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Damn, son. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Branching out. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You like one of those things? | ||
| Entrepreneur? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Like a fucking boss businessman type character. | ||
| What's up, man? | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| What's up, dog? | ||
| But Idaho was nice. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| They said the show was fucking great. | ||
| It was really fun. | ||
| It was a big-ass place. | ||
| It's beautiful outside. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's where the UFC is. | ||
| UFC's there in July. | ||
| What card is that? | ||
| That's Junior Dos Santos versus... | ||
| Dude, I totally forgot. | ||
| He's fighting that Russian character. | ||
| Who's he fighting? | ||
| Volkov? | ||
| No, not Volkov. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's the dark horse. | ||
| I forgot about Volkov. | ||
| Volkov's the darkest of dark horse. | ||
| Ivanov. | ||
| Ivanov. | ||
| Wasn't he the guy that was the Bellator champion at one point in time? | ||
| No, that's Volkov, bro. | ||
| No, but I think he was first. | ||
| So, yeah, Blagov, Ivanov. | ||
| Blagov, Ivanov. | ||
| Ivanov, yeah. | ||
| Blagoi, Ivanov. | ||
| I think he was... | ||
| Just Google him. | ||
| I think he was... | ||
| He was either World Series of Fighting champion. | ||
| Might be that. | ||
| I think you're right on World Series. | ||
| That's not Bellator's, is it? | ||
| Maybe World Series of Fighting. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Oh, he's World Series. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| He's World Series. | ||
| World Series of fighting. | ||
| Yeah, he's a tough motherfucker. | ||
| That guy has a crazy story, too. | ||
| He was stabbed and he almost died. | ||
| See if you can find that story. | ||
| It's a crazy story. | ||
| God, they're doing Junior no favors. | ||
| He was stabbed, I think, more than once. | ||
| I'm pretty sure this is the guy. | ||
| But just Google his name and stab. | ||
| Are you sure you're not talking about Darren Till? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, Darren Till as well. | ||
| I mean, Lee Murray as well. | ||
| Everybody can stab. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of people got stabbed. | ||
| Everybody can stab. | ||
| But I think he got stabbed. | ||
| Yeah, he got stabbed in the heart. | ||
| God damn! | ||
| No, I'm serious. | ||
| Bellator's... | ||
| See, he did fight in Bellator, too. | ||
| Ivano reportedly stabbed in the heart, clinging to life support. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, so this was like 2011. What year was this? | ||
| 2012. He's World Series of Fighting Champions. | ||
| It's so good with shit that I shouldn't even know. | ||
| Yeah, he got stabbed in the heart. | ||
| So he fought for Bellator, and then he went over to World Series, and now he's in the UFC. And his first fight is Junior Dos Santos. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| No, that's not his first fight. | ||
| No, I feel like he's fought already in the UFC. No way. | ||
| That's his first fight. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| That's his first fight for sure. | ||
| I must be thinking about the World Series of fighting. | ||
| Yeah, that's his first fight. | ||
| Because he fought Josh Copeland World Series. | ||
| He's a tough motherfucker, this guy though. | ||
| Very tough. | ||
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Tough. | |
| It depends what junior we get, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this is junior that also had a USADA scare. | ||
| Something happened with him, but then they let him off the hook, right? | ||
| To me, that's the problem with USADA is they go, this guy flagged, but then if they get proven innocent, there's no big write-up, there's no big announcement. | ||
| There should be a fucking siren that goes off. | ||
| Maybe he didn't get proven innocent. | ||
| Maybe it was, wasn't it diuretic or something like that? | ||
| Yeah, it was diuretic. | ||
| Maybe he didn't get proven innocent. | ||
| I mean, when was the last time he fought? | ||
| Maybe he just hasn't... | ||
| Son of a fucking grip. | ||
| Was it Stipe? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stipe was the last fight? | ||
| How long ago was that? | ||
|
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May of last year. | |
| It was a good fight. | ||
| So how much time do you get suspended... | ||
| It depends what you're at, but 6-12 months, right? | ||
| Depends what you took. | ||
| Right, but if you're going to take a diuretic, is it the same as taking juice? | ||
|
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No. | |
| Like if you took a steroid, you get longer, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| It's all weird, man. | ||
| It's super confusing, right? | ||
| It's almost like what they say about the Tour de France. | ||
| Tour de France. | ||
| Notice how I pronounce it like Brian Callen would? | ||
| Dude, I appreciate that. | ||
| Tour de France. | ||
| Tour de France. | ||
| They say that it's healthier, actually, to do that with drugs than it's to do without drugs. | ||
| It's so brutal on your body that when they take— Don't you think fighting's the same way? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Like, it's so taxed on your body? | ||
| Yeah, that was my point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I really do. | ||
| But I don't want to—I wouldn't want everybody to say they have to be on it. | ||
| Like, everybody has to be on it. | ||
| I wouldn't want... | ||
| I mean, that seems like... | ||
| Maybe we shouldn't do it if you have to do that. | ||
| Junior Dos Santos admits he's still scared of USADA. I won't say it doesn't bother me. | ||
| I wonder what the actual... | ||
| He was flagged, but he was proven innocent. | ||
| That's insane! | ||
| Because there's no huge announcement about it. | ||
| See, that's dangerous, right? | ||
| Because if you... | ||
| I mean, how long did he get sat out for? | ||
| It was months, it said, and then that he hasn't fought since then. | ||
| He almost fought again right after. | ||
| See, but you're guilty. | ||
| It's like if a girl accused you of sexual assault, right off the bat, if that goes on Twitter, you're assumed guilty. | ||
| With these guys, it's, oh, he's a drug user, but then I had no idea he was... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Good to go. | ||
| I had no fucking clue. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I saw the announcement that they were making that fight. | ||
| I went, oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, he's back. | ||
| He's back. | ||
| Who was he supposed to fight, though? | ||
| He was supposed to fight someone else, and it got rescheduled, I believe. | ||
| Am I wrong about that? | ||
| Francis Ngannou, no? | ||
| It's Francis, right? | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| He was supposed to fight Francis. | ||
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Ho, ho, ho. | |
| It was in September. | ||
| It's a motherfucking fight. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| The one thing I wish the UFC would do better, even if this isn't the UFC, but it'd be great if they did, is announce when a guy is vindicated, when he's good to go. | ||
| I need a fucking celebration because it's a birthday, so they're good to go. | ||
| The other thing is when guys retire. | ||
| So many guys retire, let's do something for them. | ||
| A guy like Rashad Evans, UFC Hall of Famer, one of the best guys to ever do it. | ||
| Great dude. | ||
| He put the UFC on the map. | ||
| Let's do something, man. | ||
| Which do they do for him? | ||
| I need fucking something. | ||
| A celebration of his career? | ||
| I need something, man. | ||
| You just can't go, yeah, thanks for the time. | ||
| Here's a tweet. | ||
| I don't feel like that's right. | ||
| Not for everyone, but for a guy like Rashad, we need something. | ||
| Won the Ultimate Fighter, won the light heavyweight title. | ||
| Think of his rivalries with fucking John Jones, Quentin Rampage Jackson, he's being two tough fighters to ever fight. | ||
| He's had some crazy times, man. | ||
| It's funny, man. | ||
| Fighters, people think about you as your fights you have late in your career. | ||
| They forget the crazy fights that he had earlier in his career. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| See, I think the ones that he was doing these past, whatever, four or five, which were tough to watch. | ||
| I don't think of Rashad like that. | ||
| Yeah, he's a different guy. | ||
| And there's something that happens to fighters or to human beings when they don't want to do it anymore. | ||
| And I mean, I think it happens with every job. | ||
| But if you don't want to do it anymore and you're a printer, it's not like if you don't want to do it anymore and you're a fighter. | ||
|
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Correct. | |
| So if you don't want to do it and you're a fighter and you kind of half-ass it and you're in there with a guy... | ||
| You know, like Glover Teixeira, like Anthony Smith. | ||
| I mean, he's in there against dangerous guys that are trying to kill him. | ||
| Hungry Lions. | ||
| Yeah, it's just, it's a bad place to be. | ||
| It's a bad place to be. | ||
| You got to be all in in this. | ||
| But it's not a sad thing because, you know, like that ridiculous safety for the Seahawks retiring because they had some neck issues. | ||
| He tried to figure out he's a pro baller. | ||
| And he retired after eight years. | ||
| I went, damn, eight years? | ||
| That's a good run, man. | ||
| How long has Rashad been fighting? | ||
| That's a fucking run, man. | ||
| Dude, he won season two as a heavyweight. | ||
| As a heavyweight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Remember he fought Bad Brad... | ||
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What was his name? | |
| Brad Imes. | ||
| Brad Imes, that's right. | ||
| And then remember this fight after that with Sean Salmon? | ||
| Ooh, the head kick. | ||
| And Dana was giving him a stink eye because the fight was boring. | ||
| And then just... | ||
| And fucking... | ||
| Remember when he knocked out Chuck Liddell? | ||
| That was like the first... | ||
| And he did this to his heart? | ||
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Yep. | |
| He knocked him out with one punch. | ||
| Dude, the special... | ||
| When I think about Rashad... | ||
| He was so special to me in my career because he was like in our camp and he was like the guy when he won the belt. | ||
| I remember he was training with us, won the belt and came back. | ||
| And it was the first time where he would speak truth to us because at the time I had a girlfriend. | ||
| I was super in love with her. | ||
| I didn't want to leave and go to training camp and all this stuff. | ||
| He's like, dude, how old are you? | ||
| I tell him, he's like, I'm telling you, it's going to be different, man. | ||
| You got to make decisions now based off this. | ||
| And he would just drop knowledge about... | ||
| The professional life of fighting. | ||
| I remember when he won the belt, he was sitting down, he came back like a week after training, and I go, dude, fucking crazy. | ||
| Did you just feel like out of this world? | ||
| He goes, I feel the exact same, man. | ||
| Nothing feels different. | ||
| I feel the exact same. | ||
| He goes, it's cool, and you want this goal, and you achieved it, and I have the belt. | ||
| He goes, back to work, man. | ||
| He goes, I thought I'd feel completely different. | ||
| He goes, gotta get better. | ||
| Now I gotta get better. | ||
| He goes, I feel just like you do, man. | ||
| I felt right before I won the belt. | ||
| He fought Machida when Machida was Machida. | ||
| Machida, Machida. | ||
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Remember that? | |
| Dude, there was a time for a couple of years where Machida was just putting on people, man. | ||
| Scares guy in the UFC for a while. | ||
| He was such a weird guy to fight, man. | ||
| Because he'd be like doing this with you. | ||
|
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Nightmare. | |
| He'd be doing all this weird movement. | ||
| And then he would blitz in on you. | ||
| Nobody knew what to do. | ||
| Knockout power, man. | ||
| In his last fight with Vitor... | ||
| Like, good lord. | ||
| That was one of the best knockouts ever. | ||
| See, pull that up. | ||
| Pull that Lyoto Machida KO's Vitor Belfort. | ||
| And now he's in Bellator. | ||
| Bellator making some waves, son. | ||
| Getting saucy over in Bellator, right? | ||
| How saucy? | ||
| How saucy do you think he's going to get? | ||
| Dude, whatever Vitor's on. | ||
| I think Bruce Lee type saucy. | ||
|
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Fuck yeah. | |
| He's going to look like Ryan Gordon. | ||
| Dude, how about he knocks him out? | ||
| He's almost too respectful. | ||
|
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Boom. | |
| Oh, he knew, man. | ||
| He knew. | ||
| I mean, he was out cold. | ||
| I'd almost rather have you celebrate my knockout. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
|
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Douche! | |
| Like, this is embarrassing. | ||
| This makes it more embarrassing. | ||
| Hands on the hip. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then bowed to him while his fucking eyes rolled back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| And then, you know, I guess the UFC wanted to work with him a little bit, but he just went to Bellator because he goes, you saw it as way too strict, man. | ||
|
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I'm out. | |
| Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Can we see in real time? | ||
| Or they only have it here. | ||
| Look at this, man. | ||
| Look how he fakes that in. | ||
|
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Boop! | |
| Boom. | ||
| One more time? | ||
| What's interesting is Vitor always would talk about standing square. | ||
| When I first started trading at Carlson Gracies, In 1996. Old school. | ||
| It was before Vitor made his UFC debut. | ||
| That's when I first started Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| And Vitor was 19. The phenom. | ||
| He was always talking about... | ||
| Oh, here it is in real time. | ||
| Look at how he moves, man. | ||
| Lyoto's so sneaky. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That is phenomenal. | ||
| Give me that one more time, son. | ||
| In real time. | ||
| Then he gets down on his knees and bows. | ||
| Look at Machida, the way he's moving here. | ||
| So sneaky. | ||
| I mean, he didn't even see that coming. | ||
| He's looking at these crazy hand movements. | ||
| And remember before this, he beat Andrews, who's a big up-and-coming football player in Alabama. | ||
| He beat him, starts Vitor, and went, I'm out. | ||
| Now he's at Bellator. | ||
| You get Roy McDonald, Gegard Mousasi. | ||
| There's some fun fucking fights over there. | ||
| Well, I think he sent his brother over there to test the waters. | ||
| Like, tell me how many times they make you pee. | ||
| Yeah, let me know. | ||
| How's that going, bro? | ||
| Get that Ryan Bader rematch. | ||
| There's some cool fights over there. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Especially if they let him get saucy. | ||
| He's 40 years old. | ||
| The other scary thing about Bellator is that Dazon, Dazon, Dazon, or whatever the fuck they're going to call it, is giving them, they gave them a nine-figure deal. | ||
| Who? | ||
| You ever heard about this DAZN deal? | ||
| I don't know what you're saying. | ||
| DAZN. What is that? | ||
| It's their streaming service. | ||
| So now they signed with them. | ||
| So now Bellator, you remember how they had tape delays? | ||
| Now you can stream it digitally. | ||
| You get that now. | ||
| For free? | ||
| High quality. | ||
| I think you have to pay for it. | ||
| How much? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But you can stream it on your phone? | ||
| Their first one's going to be free. | ||
| Their first welterweight big fight is going to be free. | ||
| Everybody wins in Bellator deal with days into stream live events. | ||
| So think about who they got, right? | ||
| Okay, they got Gegard, who his people just contacted me. | ||
| I'm gonna get Gegard Mousasi on the podcast. | ||
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Love it. | |
| He's fighting Roy McDonald. | ||
| Yep, so they got Gegard, they got Roy McDonald, two absolute world-class fighters. | ||
| Absolute world-class, top of the food chain, maybe the best 185 and the best 170 in the world, certainly in the argument, right? | ||
| Then, you know, look, Ryan Bader's never looked better. | ||
| Ryan Bader's never looked better. | ||
| He's in a heavyweight tournament right now. | ||
| He may not ever beat Jon Jones, but he's never looked better. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| I mean, he looks fucking incredible. | ||
| When he knocked out King Moe... | ||
| He could be heavyweight champion. | ||
| He could be heavyweight champion. | ||
| And he's light heavyweight champion right now. | ||
| Who knows, man? | ||
| Maybe him going up to heavyweight would be better for him. | ||
| I mean, maybe he doesn't have to cut weight. | ||
| Maybe he could fight more, especially as an older guy in his 30s. | ||
| If he can beat Mitrione... | ||
| That says a lot. | ||
| Well, he's really gotten better and better and better. | ||
| He's never stopped getting better. | ||
| Then, of course, you got Paul Daley, one of the most exciting motherfuckers in any weight division, who's got a nuclear missile for a left hand. | ||
| And then you got Michael Vennon Page. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| Well, Paul Bailey's last fight with Fitch was brutal, man. | ||
| Fitch is going to Fitch, though, bro. | ||
| Okay, but why make that fight? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Why do that fight? | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| Fitch is going to Fitch, bro. | ||
| And why would you diminish Daley in terms of marketability after the Larkin fight? | ||
| So he KOs Larkin, who Larkin always felt like was a dark horse at 170. Especially after he fucked up Neil Magny. | ||
| Smoked Neil Magny. | ||
| I was like, dude, this guy is something. | ||
| And then bounced. | ||
| He's got a lot of weird skills, man. | ||
| Larkin's got a weird way of moving. | ||
| He's got that oblique kick that he does to the body. | ||
| But then he struggled in Bellator. | ||
| He came over there, you know, he's fighting with Lima. | ||
| Lima's a motherfucker, so he struggled with him. | ||
| Lima beat him, but it was close. | ||
| He lost two in a row. | ||
| And then he got KO'd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See, man, you're in a slugfest. | ||
| Then he won his last one. | ||
| You're in a slugfest with Paul Daly, dude. | ||
| That dude has got something crazy in his left hand. | ||
| But you know they're doing Paul Daly, Michael Vennon Page next. | ||
|
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I know. | |
| Paul Daly signs new Bellator contract, accepts Joe Shilling's call-out! | ||
|
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Oh, Jesus! | |
| Joe Shilling versus Paul Daly in MMA. Yes, Joe Shilling. | ||
| Shilling's fighting MMA now. | ||
| Paul Daly's not taking anybody down. | ||
| They're gonna stand, son. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| If it was a kickboxing match, I'd be more excited. | ||
| But do you think Paul Dale's going to try to take him down after all the shit he talks about guys taking him down? | ||
| I don't think there's a chance in hell. | ||
| I'd rather see Joe Schilling fight in kickboxing. | ||
| One of the best kickboxers in the world. | ||
| MMA's tough for him. | ||
| He wants to fight MMA now. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| I'll watch it. | ||
| Here's to him for sure. | ||
| The problem that Joe's been having is they don't give him enough money in kickboxing. | ||
| Bellator kickboxing even, it's just not materializing. | ||
| Because he's not with Glory anymore, right? | ||
| He's Bellator. | ||
| Yeah, I know, but he was in Glory, or no. | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| He was in glory, and then he came over to Bellator a couple years ago, and he's fought well. | ||
| He's had some great fights. | ||
| Yeah, I loved watching him fight kickboxing. | ||
| But for whatever reason, Bellator kickboxing just does not have the appeal. | ||
| That's crazy to me, man. | ||
| I do not understand. | ||
| I do not understand. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I do not understand. | ||
| I do. | ||
| If boxing is popular, how is kickboxing not popular? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I watch boxing. | ||
| I'd much rather watch it than kickboxing. | ||
| Did you watch Rico Verhoeven's last fight? | ||
| Sure did. | ||
| Fucking that was amazing. | ||
| It was cool. | ||
| Against Ben Sadiq. | ||
| I'm not stopping my plans for it though. | ||
| You're not stopping your Friday night for it. | ||
| I would if I didn't have shit to do. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But yeah. | ||
| But have shit to do. | ||
| We've done Glory Fight Companions. | ||
| Have we? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I did a Glory Fight Companion with Joe Schilling and who else did it? | ||
| I was in here. | ||
| Well, listen, you would have been here. | ||
| True. | ||
| I never miss Fight Companions. | ||
| You're gonna make fun of the things I love. | ||
| Like, I made fun of your soccer. | ||
| I see what you're doing. | ||
| Full circle. | ||
| You're coming down on me. | ||
| Full circle, sir. | ||
| I gotta find something. | ||
| Dude, I love kickboxing, man. | ||
| No, I enjoy kickboxing. | ||
| I think Glory puts out the best product. | ||
| I think Glory's phenomenal. | ||
| I'm actually bummed out that Lion Fight is not on AXS TV anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They lost their deal with AXS TV. Well, if you had done Fight Companions for Lion Fight, it'd probably still be around. | ||
| I think we did one. | ||
| No? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think we only did Glory. | ||
| Come on, bro. | ||
| Five Companion for Glory. | ||
| Bam. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Eve Edwards and Joe Schilling. | ||
| Son? | ||
| 2016. Son? | ||
| I would've done it since then. | ||
| Just didn't have time, man. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| It's because it's kickboxing. | ||
| I still love it. | ||
| But you would shut fucking down for, you know... | ||
| Well, we only did one Bellator, too. | ||
| We only done one Bellator, ever. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| That was a big Bellator. | ||
| Yeah, who was that? | ||
| Who was fighting? | ||
| It was all KOs and submissions. | ||
| It was an amazing night. | ||
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Did Shane Carwin fight? | |
| No, Shane hasn't fought. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| You shut your mouth. | ||
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Jamie's like, who's better, Dr. J or LeBron? | |
| You fucking dork. | ||
| How dare you, Shane Carwin. | ||
| Shane Carwin's never fought in Bellatorian. | ||
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Ever. | |
| You son of a bitch. | ||
| You son of a bitch. | ||
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The wrong name came to my head. | |
| I apologize. | ||
| I'm trying to think who the fuck was. | ||
| It was a big Bellator. | ||
| You, me, and Eddie did. | ||
| It was a phenomenal night. | ||
| Was it Fedor Mitrion? | ||
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It was 198, but it's not... | |
| Was it Fedor Frank Mir? | ||
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Frank Mir. | |
| Oh, yes! | ||
| Bombs on bombs on bombs. | ||
| Yeah, Fedor Frank Mir was chaos. | ||
| Yes, that was a good night. | ||
| You know, Frank Mir, I really appreciate that guy. | ||
| I appreciate the way he thinks and talks about fighting, too. | ||
| And one of the things he said is, like, remember Fedor hip-tossed him, slammed him on his back, and he said he just got up and just wanted to swing at him. | ||
| His ego got the best of him. | ||
| And that wasn't the plan. | ||
| The plan wasn't just... | ||
| Recklessly abandoned and engaged on him. | ||
| No, why would you do that with Fedor? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he almost beat him. | ||
| He almost beat him. | ||
| He had him wobble. | ||
| Well, this is the thing. | ||
| I think Fedor gets you into his groove. | ||
| Like, he did that with Arlovsky. | ||
| He's done it with a lot of people. | ||
| He gets you into his groove and then he cracks you with something. | ||
| Game over. | ||
| He's done it to Brett Rogers. | ||
| But I think that I was curious to see how that fight was taking place. | ||
| Because in the beginning, Frank was catching him. | ||
| He caught him, yeah, and then rushed in. | ||
| But Frank also said ring rust is real. | ||
| He's like, dude, I need the experience. | ||
| I haven't felt that kind of nerves and stuff going into a fight in a long time. | ||
| It's been a long layoff for me. | ||
| How long has he been off? | ||
| Two years? | ||
| Two years. | ||
| He's like, I just need to get back in there. | ||
| You know Josh Barnett's supposed to sign with him. | ||
| With Bellator? | ||
| Scott Coker's on the phone with Barnett, and they've worked together before, so you know that boy Barnett gets in there. | ||
| Yeah, Mario Batali's in the kitchen right now making some sauce. | ||
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He's chopping up some basil and some garlic. | |
| For their heavyweights, it's terrible. | ||
| Get saucy. | ||
| Let them get saucy. | ||
| Barnett saucy against Ryan Bader? | ||
| Well, who do they have? | ||
| They have Bader, they have... | ||
| Jill Sonnen? | ||
| Chael Sonnen, Frank Mir. | ||
| Remember when Josh stopped Frank Mir? | ||
| How does he realize how good Josh is? | ||
| Josh is a nightmare. | ||
| He's a nightmare. | ||
| Remember when he beat the brakes off Roy Nelson? | ||
| Beat the shit out of him for five rounds. | ||
| Beat the shit out of him. | ||
| And showed some serious cardio. | ||
| Serious cardio to do that for five rounds. | ||
| Yeah, Josh is a nightmare for all those dudes. | ||
| Oh, he's phenomenal. | ||
| Yeah, he might be Bellator heavyweight champion. | ||
| He could. | ||
| Especially if you let the man sleep in, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Why wouldn't you? | ||
| Oh, just trust his pain. | ||
| Don't hate on him, man. | ||
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Just look at it. | |
| It's all yellow and healthy. | ||
| Older with just skills for days. | ||
| Leave him alone. | ||
| Yeah, that's the problem. | ||
| When those old dudes get a hold of that juice, they got all those years and years of learning and experience, and then all of a sudden their body starts moving like a young man's body again. | ||
| That's why TRT Vitor was so fascinating. | ||
| He might go over to Bellator. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| Well, he might sign with Ryzen, but he might go to Bellator too. | ||
| Even Bellator for Vitor, he's like, dude, you know you guys test a little bit? | ||
| I don't even want that. | ||
| Bellator's test is too strict for me. | ||
| I don't want that. | ||
| Well, that was one of the things that Rory, not Rory, that Gegard Mousasi was talking about guys fighting him. | ||
| Who was he bringing up that he would need extra testing from? | ||
| He was just talking about this. | ||
| Gegard was just talking about this. | ||
| At 205? | ||
| Or 85? | ||
| Do you remember? | ||
| At 85. Who was it? | ||
| Machida. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Machida. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Because he lost a decision to Machida over in Bellator. | ||
| He wants extra drug testing for Leo to Machida if they rematch. | ||
| I don't trust that guy. | ||
| He said, whoa. | ||
| Bellator's going, no problem, man. | ||
| We'll make sure we're on it. | ||
| Looks like pee. | ||
| Tastes like pee. | ||
| Instead of once, we did it twice. | ||
| We let him know six months in advance when he's going to be tested. | ||
| We give him a heads up. | ||
| He's getting tested a lot. | ||
| Yeah, we post-dated all his urine samples. | ||
| He has a full schedule. | ||
| You want it, too? | ||
| Yeah, we have 12 urine samples. | ||
| We took them all on the same day, but we got them. | ||
| That's what they need to do, man. | ||
| Even that's too strict for fucking VTour, though. | ||
| Hey, have you heard anything about Tony Ferguson? | ||
| How's his knee doing? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What is going on with him? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I've heard shit. | ||
| Eddie Bradwell just had shoulder surgery a couple weeks ago. | ||
| He just took his, I think actually a week ago, just took his stitches out. | ||
| It must have been bad for him to have surgery because I remember the last time I saw him at the Tommy store. | ||
| He's going like this backstage. | ||
| I'm good, man. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| He's doing this. | ||
| Well, it must not have been good. | ||
| He must have done something and heard it again and realized he just should go ahead and bite the bullet and get the surgery. | ||
| I need to get them stem cells in this left knee. | ||
| Team Dagestan breaking. | ||
| If the negotiations on the fight... | ||
| Okay, this is Russian translation. | ||
| Team Khabib versus Notorious MMA. Will not be achieved, then next week UFC announces fight Team Khabib vs. | ||
| Tony Ferguson XT UFC 229 October 6th. | ||
| How can he come back that quick? | ||
| Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. | ||
| This isn't even real. | ||
| I mean, MMA Team Dagestan, that doesn't work. | ||
| Yeah, but wait a minute. | ||
| Let me think of, like, when Tony... | ||
| Go to Tony Ferguson's Instagram. | ||
| They showed him, like, breakdancing, right? | ||
| When did Tony Ferguson have a surgery? | ||
| That was before Brooklyn. | ||
| So before Brooklyn was what? | ||
| How many months ago was that? | ||
| Two months ago? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| How does he do that? | ||
| And from what I hear, Conor vs. | ||
| Khabib is happening. | ||
| It's fucking happening. | ||
| This year. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's what you hear? | ||
| That's how the UFC gets him out of jail? | ||
| I don't think they give a fuck. | ||
| I mean, we're finding out what's going to happen in July, right? | ||
| So just go to the actual images. | ||
| Yeah, go back. | ||
| And then scroll down. | ||
| Let me see that one right there, the way he's moving around. | ||
| There's a video. | ||
| Let me see that. | ||
| This is him recently. | ||
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| It's fucking slow. | ||
| Yeah, he's just controlled. | ||
| I mean, Tony's an absolute freak. | ||
| So when he's ready to go, he'll be ready to go. | ||
| But it almost hurts him because he's such a freak and he wants it so bad he might not be ready, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he might hurt himself. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But he's got to be with state-of-the-art guys, man. | ||
| It's Tony Ferguson. | ||
| There was that one up there with the... | ||
| So he's doing that one right there. | ||
| No, right... | ||
| You just had it. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| So he's getting on his knees and crawling across mats. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| This does not totally look like a guy who's ready to fight, though. | ||
| This looks like he's just breaking down scar tissue. | ||
| That'd be a little tough. | ||
| Strength, flexibility, motivation, creativity increasing tremendously. | ||
| Not 100%, but close. | ||
| Champ, strap. | ||
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11 weeks out. | |
| 11 weeks out. | ||
| That's not much time, man. | ||
| That's not even three months. | ||
| That's a weird thing. | ||
| It's like, you know, these guys, they have incredible willpower and incredible endurance and incredible, like, just the focus and drive and discipline to get better, but your body has to heal. | ||
| If I'm the UFC, I'm paying to, and I don't know how stem cells work, but if I'm dating, I'm paying for Tony C, a stem cell doctor, every week. | ||
| Yeah, I don't even know if that would totally help. | ||
| I mean, maybe it would help. | ||
| I think everything helps a little bit, right? | ||
| It's not like you can really measure it. | ||
| Like, you've got a body chart where I can look at your diagnosis and go, oh yeah, look, after we shot the stem cells in, look, your number here. | ||
| It's definitely going to help, though. | ||
| It's better than eating fucking fruit roll-ups. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure he's... | ||
| I don't know what he's doing. | ||
| I would assume he's doing something. | ||
| I would do growth. | ||
| I would do a shitload of growth, which you might get flagged for. | ||
| I don't know what they're doing with testing, but... | ||
| I don't think you could really test for growth. | ||
| I'm honest with you. | ||
| You have to do blood work. | ||
| I don't think they're really... | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I think it's real iffy whether or not they can catch you doing that. | ||
| To catch growth in half-life, you have to do blood work. | ||
| So I don't know how they test these days. | ||
| How do they test when they randomly show up? | ||
| Do they get blood and urine or just urine? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I've left before it happened. | ||
| So if it's just urine, those guys could probably get away with it. | ||
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Correct. | |
| But such a dangerous move. | ||
| If they flag you with it and then you're out for a year. | ||
| Yeah, but if I'm injured and I have a doctor's prescription for HGH to recover, I'm doing all the HGH stem cells. | ||
| But would they let you do that? | ||
| Would the UFC allow it? | ||
| You can't even have a fucking IV. While he's going through all this, he can't take an IV. How lame is that? | ||
| If he feels dehydrated... | ||
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How lame is that? | |
| How stupid is that? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Well, how about this? | ||
| What if he wants to get an IV NAD drip, which will help him recover? | ||
| I know. | ||
| What if he wants to get an IV... That's not even outlawed. | ||
| What if he wants to get IV vitamins, like a vitamin infusion? | ||
| You can do that. | ||
| But if you're in the UFC business, why wouldn't you want that guy to be on all the HGH he can get just to recover his knee so he can fight Khabib to fight for 155, which we're all vying to see? | ||
| That's good for business. | ||
| Who gives a flying fuck how he's doing to get there? | ||
| You'd want him for sure on the stuff that you can do, like platelet-rich plasma or, you know, dude, send him down to Panama. | ||
| Fucking like a David Lee Roth song. | ||
| Panama! | ||
| I agree. | ||
| The thing about Panama and going to Dr. Neil Reardon and doing all that shit that Mel Gibson was talking about on the podcast with his dad, that stuff's legal. | ||
| It's legal in Panama. | ||
| You go down there and they'll do shit that... | ||
| TJ went down there, right? | ||
| TJ's gone down there twice. | ||
| He's gone in there twice. | ||
| And it's all legal. | ||
| If TJ's doing it, it's legal. | ||
| It's totally above board. | ||
| You're allowed to do it. | ||
| I'd fly that fucking doctor in here and I'd have... | ||
| You can't do it here. | ||
| You have to do it in Panama. | ||
| Because they're doing things that aren't legal in the United States. | ||
| Alright, either way. | ||
| Private jet Tony's ass there. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Anyone who gets hurt, we got this. | ||
| We'll cover this bill. | ||
| There's not enough money though. | ||
| See, they said that the UFC made more money last year than ever before, right? | ||
| It's like a record year. | ||
| A lot of it was like all these deals. | ||
| But do you know how much money they must have to pay every month for that loan? | ||
| They have a $4 billion purchase. | ||
| That's so much money. | ||
| Yeah, but they just signed a huge fucking nut with ESPN and the streaming deal, ESPN+. But do you think they have enough money where they could fly guys down to Panama every time everybody gets hurt? | ||
| All 500? | ||
| I'm talking about special treatment. | ||
| I'm talking Tom Brady. | ||
| If I'm the New England Patriots, I'm flying down there by any means necessary. | ||
| Okay, when do you take it off? | ||
| When do you not allow it? | ||
| Do you let Michael Chiesa fly down there? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You're shaking your head no. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| What if he strangles Pettis? | ||
| No. | ||
| You son of a bitch. | ||
| What's he ranked? | ||
| You son of a bitch. | ||
| We'll have to find out. | ||
| It's also, Pettis hasn't exactly been on a hot streak. | ||
| Okay, Kevin Lee. | ||
| Send Kevin Lee down there? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| We'll send Kevin down there. | ||
| He beat Michael, didn't he? | ||
| Choked him out, didn't he? | ||
| He did, didn't he? | ||
| Kid's got a lot of star power, too, doesn't he? | ||
| I'm like a shitty promoter. | ||
| There's levels to this game where if LeBron gets hurt, we're flying him somewhere. | ||
| Michael Chiesa, number nine. | ||
| Kevin Lee, number five. | ||
| Okay, do you fly down Dustin Poirier? | ||
| Ooh, you don't. | ||
| This is tough, right? | ||
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Bro, you give me trouble with all these fucking guys. | |
| Dude, I gotta look at pay-per-view numbers. | ||
| No, he's lost two. | ||
| We're not flying down. | ||
| Wow, you don't fly him down. | ||
| No, you're on fight nights. | ||
| You're on fight nights. | ||
| Can you charter a plane and get a bunch of them in at once? | ||
| See, now you're talking. | ||
| From the Michael Johnson fight with Justin Gagee, he gets flown down for the rest of his fucking life. | ||
| Can we inject brain cells? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| We're gonna go through the ears. | ||
| If we inject brain cells in there... | ||
| We're gonna get him to lie with his head on one side, we're gonna fill his ears up, let it soak into his brain. | ||
| You know there's holes in his ear. | ||
| And then lie down on the other side, fill them up with stem cells. | ||
| Just go right through the nose. | ||
| We're going through the whole body. | ||
| I mean, I'm giving Khabib, Connor, Tony, Eddie Alvarez, and Nate Diaz a fucking frequent flyer card into that bitch. | ||
| Do you know that that's something that Kyle Kingsbury said he did? | ||
| He did some sort of nasal exosomes, right? | ||
| Do you remember him talking about that? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Did you talk about that on the podcast or off the podcast? | ||
| He's into all kinds of crazy, state-of-the-art shit. | ||
| He's a big fella. | ||
| That's a big fella, that Kyle Kingsbury. | ||
| Super athlete, too. | ||
| Does everything to try and get the best body possible. | ||
| Well, now that he works on it, too, that's his job. | ||
| He's on top of everything new that's coming out, what can help, and what's the newest, latest, greatest shit. | ||
| So you're saying he injected testosterone right into his nose? | ||
| No, I think it's exosomes. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I think it's the shit that makes stem cells effective. | ||
| Into his nose? | ||
| Was he talking about that? | ||
| Was it Ben Greenfield? | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I think it was Ben Greenfield. | ||
| This is why I think it was. | ||
| Okay, now I remember. | ||
| Ben Greenfield? | ||
| Ben Greenfield crashed his bike hard and really hurt himself. | ||
| Hit his nose? | ||
| Yeah, he hurt his head. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And one of the things he did, that's who it was. | ||
| One of the things he did to mitigate CTE is have exosomes shot up his nose. | ||
| He did it IV, had it done up his nose, and he did like a full-body exosome treatment. | ||
| Did it help? | ||
| He doesn't know. | ||
| Do you know who Ben Greenfield is? | ||
| I've listened to him on your podcast. | ||
| You've got to have him on your show. | ||
| On Fire and a Kid? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| First of all, he's a super genius. | ||
| Tell Brian to shut the fuck up while he's talking. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I feel like he should be on Brian's podcast. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's also a super athlete. | ||
| He does a lot of crazy shit, like Tough Mudders and all that stuff, but he's on the ball when it comes to the latest and greatest stuff. | ||
| He did a whole article for, was it... | ||
| In Esquire or when he shot his dick up with stem cells and talked about all the different things he did to his dick. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, PRP and stem cells. | ||
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Into his dick? | |
| Into his dick, yeah. | ||
| And he self-administered it. | ||
| His dick has, like, gills now? | ||
| And he's a super genius. | ||
| Oh, man, then. | ||
| But Brian will take over the conversation. | ||
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Interesting guy. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Tell Brian to shut the fuck up. | ||
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I know. | |
| Or leave him at home. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Or tell Brian we don't have the podcast that day. | ||
| You know, the French Alps where they train the skiers. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| God damn it! | ||
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Greenfield's here! | |
| He's here just today! | ||
| Please let him talk. | ||
| Let him go. | ||
| Please let him talk. | ||
| When Ben's here, I just wind him up and let him drop science on me. | ||
| Dude, that dinner that he posted with all those smart people, were you guys trying to solve the world crisis? | ||
| Or what was going on there? | ||
| Where'd you guys eat? | ||
| Eating? | ||
| Talking shit? | ||
| Like, you talk shit like we talk shit? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
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No! | |
| They're smart guys, man. | ||
| They're smart shit though, right? | ||
| No, there's some shit talking. | ||
| Especially, Sam Harris is very funny. | ||
| Believe it or not. | ||
| Is he? | ||
| Yeah, he's very funny. | ||
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Really? | |
| Smart dude. | ||
| Yeah, he's real funny. | ||
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All of them are fucking smart, John. | |
| Eric Weinstein is very funny. | ||
| And then Peterson was there, right? | ||
| Yeah, and Jordan Rubin, or Dave Rubin, rather, is, Dave Rubin's a stand-up. | ||
| And then Jordan Peterson can be funny sometimes. | ||
| He's just insanely smart, though. | ||
| Does one person start the topic and then you guys go around like a round table? | ||
| No, we were all just talking. | ||
| And sometimes we were all talking together and a couple times we broke off into separate conversations. | ||
| Yeah, you go into groups, don't you? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's a lot of people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Those big dinners are tough because you don't really talk to them. | ||
| You break off in groups. | ||
| Who's close to you, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was fun, though. | ||
| It's fun knowing people that are way smarter than you. | ||
| That's my entire friend. | ||
| All my friends are smarting me. | ||
| I thought about this and went, oh, wow, everyone's smarting me. | ||
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That's cool. | |
| That's what you want, though. | ||
| Yeah, you don't want to be the one who has the answers. | ||
| If you're the smartest guy in the group, that's not good. | ||
| Just like you don't want to be the toughest guy in the room. | ||
| You don't want to be that guy. | ||
| You need tough training partners. | ||
| You also need tough training partners to get good. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You don't want to be the best fighter in your gym. | ||
| Well, really interesting people, it makes you crave interesting conversations, makes you more interested in different subjects. | ||
| They motivate you the same way, like, if you were training with Brian Ortega, you'd want jiu-jitsu to be tighter. | ||
| You'd get motivated by watching them. | ||
| It's like I did a podcast, I think, Drinking Bros with Matt Best and those guys, and they're all super high-level military guys. | ||
| They're asking me about fighting or whatever, and we're doing our dick jokes. | ||
| I'm like, hold on, because I want to hear what they say about the military, because they have their black belts in military and all that combat experience. | ||
| So I flipped the script on them. | ||
| It was fucking fascinating. | ||
| Your listeners are going to hate this because they probably know this, but we went by missions and how it goes down. | ||
| I was fucking fascinated, man. | ||
| I don't want to talk. | ||
| I want to hear them talk. | ||
| Have you ever done a podcast with Jocko? | ||
| No! | ||
| Do you know Jocko? | ||
| I don't know him at all. | ||
| I woke up early on the other day and felt like tweeting like, what's up now, bitch? | ||
| You woke up earlier than Jocko? | ||
| What time were you up? | ||
| I think like four or something. | ||
| But he posted he was up at like five something. | ||
| Jocko's a caricature. | ||
| He's been on the carnivore diet before it was the carnivore diet. | ||
| He just eats steak. | ||
| I look at him, I think, that's steak. | ||
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He's all steak. | |
| I need to have him on the podcast for sure. | ||
| He would be a great guest. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I think someone goes, man, we need to get Jocko on fire and the kid. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| And he goes, I'm there, but we just got to figure it out. | ||
| Yeah, I'll give you his number after the show. | ||
| But he's... | ||
| He's one of those dudes where you, if you read his stuff enough and pay attention, it will increase your motivation. | ||
| It just will. | ||
| He's the real deal. | ||
| You know, he has this video called, you ever seen this video, Good? | ||
| You ever seen Good? | ||
| No, please play it. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| How long is it though? | ||
| It's gonna give you a rock hard boner. | ||
| What is it, a couple minutes? | ||
| Two minutes long? | ||
| It's tough to motivate me. | ||
| It's one of my favorite, I've watched this at least once every six months. | ||
| I'm not bullshitting. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We played it on the podcast already. | ||
| Go full screen and give me some volume and don't start it prematurely, you son of a bitch. | ||
| Let it load up. | ||
| One of my direct subordinates, one of my guys that worked for me, he would call me up or call me aside with some... | ||
| What's his background? | ||
| Navy SEAL commander. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| Say no more, fam. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Direct subordinates, one of my guys that worked for me. | |
| He would call me up or pull me aside with some major problem, some issue that was going on. | ||
| And he'd say, boss, we got this and that and the other thing. | ||
| And I'd look at him and I'd say, good. | ||
| And finally one day he was telling me about some issue that he was having, some problem, and he said, I already know what you're going to say. | ||
| And I said, well, what am I going to say? | ||
| He said, you're going to say good. | ||
| He said, that's what you always say. | ||
| When something is wrong and going bad, you always just look at me and say, good. | ||
| And I said, well, yeah. | ||
| When things are going bad, there's going to be some good that's going to come from it. | ||
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Didn't get the new high-speed gear we wanted? | |
| Good. | ||
| Didn't get promoted? | ||
| Good. | ||
| More time to get better. | ||
| Oh, mission got canceled? | ||
| Good. | ||
| We can focus on another one. | ||
| Didn't get funded. | ||
| Didn't get the job you wanted. | ||
| Got injured. | ||
| Sprained my ankle. | ||
| Got tapped out? | ||
| Good. | ||
| Got beat? | ||
| Good. | ||
| Learned. | ||
| Unexpected problems? | ||
| Good. | ||
| We have the opportunity to figure out a solution. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| When things are going bad, Don't get all bummed out. | ||
| Don't get startled. | ||
| Don't get frustrated. | ||
| If you can say the word good, guess what? | ||
| It means you're still alive. | ||
| It means you're still breathing. | ||
| And if you're still breathing, well now, you still got some fight left in you. | ||
| So get up, Dust off. | ||
| Reload. | ||
| Recalibrate. | ||
| Re-engage. | ||
| who go out on the attack. | ||
| Gangster. | ||
| Dude, when it comes from a guy like him, it has a different meaning behind it. | ||
| Different meaning, yeah. | ||
| When those guys speak, I listen, man. | ||
| I hear that sometimes when I run. | ||
| When I'm running hills and I'm tired, I just go, good. | ||
| Good. | ||
| I just keep going. | ||
| Good. | ||
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Tired? | |
| Good. | ||
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You're supposed to be. | |
| You're working hard. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Fight with your girlfriend? | ||
| Good. | ||
| Bring it, bitch. | ||
| It's having that attitude, though, like making that switch in your mind to just look at things in a different way. | ||
| Everybody can do that. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| That's not unattainable. | ||
| When you listen to something like that, the real beauty of something that inspires you like that is you hear it, and then you can actually put it into action. | ||
| But do you ever have a problem being self-motivated, Joe? | ||
| Don't get me wrong, that's fucking fantastic. | ||
| I've never been a guy who's been drawn to the motivational stuff. | ||
| I just never have been. | ||
| I've never needed it. | ||
| I've been blessed in that regards. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Even when bad things happen, I'm always super positive. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| When I say bad things, I'm not... | ||
| Comparing my bad situations to fucking jock in Ward. | ||
| I'm talking whether it's when I lost a fight, if something's going wrong, in stand-up, something business-wise, I don't get something. | ||
| I'm usually all good. | ||
| I'm usually pretty positive. | ||
| You are. | ||
| You're a very positive guy. | ||
| I think that's one of the secrets to your success. | ||
| Is that you look at things in a good way, and you have confidence, and you act, you know? | ||
| I mean, I tell all these young stand-ups, I go, Brendan Child's been doing comedy for two fucking years. | ||
| You gotta look what he's doing. | ||
| This is when an athlete goes after something. | ||
| You have the work ethic of an athlete and the mindset of an athlete, but you're also funny. | ||
| See, the thing about comedy is a lot of people that are really funny are also, we're personal saboteurs, we're self-sabotage, we are impulsive, a lot of times get addicted to things. | ||
| The type of person that becomes a stand-up is a person who says ridiculous shit. | ||
| They say things that are socially unacceptable things because they know it's going to get a rise. | ||
| They hang around with a bunch of other degenerates like you and me hang around. | ||
| This is a certain style of person, like a Joey Diaz style of person, but you're an athlete who has those attributes. | ||
| So for you, what I tell young guys in particular, I go, this highlights the importance of discipline. | ||
| It doesn't make you less funny. | ||
| That's a cop-out. | ||
| A lot of people think that discipline makes you less funny. | ||
| Comics have these weird cop-outs. | ||
| You don't want to be a guy who works hard, you want to be a guy who's funny. | ||
| Some guys are funny and it's effortless. | ||
| That's nonsense. | ||
| Working hard in everything. | ||
| You should work hard in everything. | ||
| Everything that you try to do, you should put... | ||
| The more attention and more focus you put on it, the better you're gonna get at it. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah, I just don't want to be a loser. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I also just... | ||
| I don't want to embarrass myself or people either. | ||
| If they pay for a ticket, I want to be like, dude, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Well, also, you can do it. | ||
| You can do it. | ||
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Correct. | |
| You know? | ||
| You can do it. | ||
| So if you can do it, just keep doing it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Get better at it. | ||
| Keep working at it. | ||
| Keep swinging. | ||
| It's a fascinating thing to do for a living, man. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's the best. | ||
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Fuck! | |
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| But discipline, man. | ||
| So I've never necessarily had a problem self-motivating, but I've always drawn inspiration from a lot of different sources. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I go to The Rock's Instagram page every day. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| No bullshit. | ||
| Because he's always hustling. | ||
| I see The Rock. | ||
| He's always fucking flying around in a jet. | ||
| He's always in the gym. | ||
| Just a little bit. | ||
| But The Rock inspires you, but Kevin Hart doesn't on jets? | ||
| No, he does too. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Not on jets. | ||
| The jet thing is I get that. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| But when Kevin Hart's in the gym all the time, that inspires me for sure. | ||
| To work out. | ||
| He's constantly in the gym. | ||
| Doesn't mean I'm going to work out because of Kevin Hart. | ||
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No, I get that. | |
| I was going to work out already. | ||
| But you're just like, fuck yeah, let's get it. | ||
| I like watching people kick ass. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| I also like people kicking out. | ||
| I don't hate anyone. | ||
| I root for everyone. | ||
| It's almost a problem where I root for everyone. | ||
| I almost think it was my downfall as a fighter and as a football player. | ||
| I would root for everyone. | ||
| I didn't hate anybody. | ||
| I want everyone to do well. | ||
| But it helps me in comedy. | ||
| I want everything to be good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I did a show at the Ice House and they're like, you need someone to open up for you. | ||
| And so I called Emily at the Comedy Store. | ||
| I'm like, hey, do you have two door guys who are vying for spots? | ||
| She's like, fuck yeah. | ||
| Give me a list. | ||
| So every show I'm always trying to bring the door guys in. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| I'm like, how can I? You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's like, I want everyone to do well. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| Because when I look at... | ||
| What inspires me is when you post a video in the crowds in Idaho or whatever, or Chris D'Elia, or the crew, when guys are doing... | ||
| To me, it's trying to keep up with that. | ||
| Because I feel like we're in this race, right? | ||
| We're in this race together, and everyone's fucking... | ||
| Beast and animals and you gotta you're gonna fall back in the pack man be a loser and get fucking eaten by these lions or you keep running with these monsters Yeah, that's how I look at it Well, it's it's a great attitude to have in anything if you want the people around you to do well It's a great attitude to have with everything that's been that's one of the major secrets to my success for sure is have a bunch of people around you that are kicking ass and then like Helping them. | ||
| Helping everybody. | ||
| Promoting everybody. | ||
| Letting everybody know. | ||
| Encouraging everybody. | ||
| When everybody's doing great, it's a good feeling for all involved. | ||
| When people go selfish and they only want a good thing to happen to them, and they get upset if good things happen to other people, that's poison, man. | ||
| The jealousy doesn't work. | ||
| It does the opposite of work. | ||
| There's an actual quote about that. | ||
| That jealousy is one of the rare emotions that achieves the opposite effect that it intends to. | ||
| Because you intend to, like, diminish someone by being jealous of them, but in fact you diminish yourself. | ||
| Yeah, you're putting energy into things you can't control and it does not matter. | ||
| Yeah, I forget who made that quote, but it's even uglier when it's jealousy amongst friends. | ||
| Oh, the worst. | ||
| We all have seen it. | ||
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100%. | |
| It's weird. | ||
| It's a weird thing to see. | ||
| It's weird to me when I was fighting, it's weird to see people who, I won't mention names, but we're on the same group and a guy would be fighting. | ||
| You could tell they didn't want him to succeed. | ||
| I'm like, dude, we just went to an eight-week camp. | ||
| It's going to be tough. | ||
| I'm like, tough? | ||
| I'm like, oh, you're jealous, man. | ||
| With his success, you can go on your own path. | ||
| That's a weird thing, man. | ||
| With comedy, I thought I'd get it way worse. | ||
| I thought people were going to fucking hate me when I walked in the store, laugh at you, but I don't see it around there. | ||
| And if I do it, they don't see it to my face. | ||
| No, you know what it is? | ||
| Well, it's also, once you're proven to actually be funny, you're in. | ||
| Nobody gives a shit. | ||
| Everybody just wants you to be funny. | ||
| But if you were some guy who was maybe an actor that was kind of half-assing it, and people would come to see you just because you were an actor, but you weren't really trying, you didn't respect... | ||
| Which we've all seen in the past. | ||
| Well, there's been a bunch of those people that tried to get sitcoms back in the early days. | ||
| And during the sitcom days, when there was a lot of comics... | ||
| That were getting these deals and then they would do a sitcom based around them. | ||
| Very few of them ever became like a Seinfeld or something like that. | ||
| But they gave it a lot of deals, man. | ||
| Developmental deals. | ||
| And so there was a lot of actors who got into comedy and put together like a quote-unquote act to try to get a deal. | ||
| Like they would do it because they would look at it seeing like, look, if they're just going to audition for shows, it's really difficult to stand out from the crowd. | ||
| I mean, unless you look like Luke Rockhold or you got some, you know, you're the perfect Ryan Reynolds looking fella. | ||
| It's fucking hard. | ||
| And then if you're a girl, you have to be really hot or you have to be really big. | ||
| Something has to be funny about you, right? | ||
| Well, if you're a stand-up, there's no rules. | ||
| You can be Ali Wong. | ||
| You can be Roseanne Barr. | ||
| You just have to be funny. | ||
| That's all that matters. | ||
| So a lot of actors looked at it like, oh, I'll just put together an act. | ||
| Oh man, stand-ups would hate them. | ||
| I'm sure it wouldn't go well either. | ||
| It's within whoever it is. | ||
| Let's say fucking John Goodman started doing stand-up, right? | ||
| And he'd come on stage and we're like, oh fuck, that's John Goodman. | ||
| And after about three minutes, like, okay, that's John Goodman. | ||
| What the fuck are you going to do, man? | ||
| Well, that was Michael Richards. | ||
| Michael Richards didn't really have a background in stand-up. | ||
| He had a background. | ||
| See, I didn't know that. | ||
| Yeah, he would do like... | ||
| He didn't have an act. | ||
| He would fall down on stage and play like... | ||
| He was doing Kramer. | ||
| To be the character. | ||
| To be Kramer. | ||
| Yeah, it was very strange. | ||
| And I don't know if he did it for a long time and then stopped doing it for a long time and then started doing it again after Seinfeld. | ||
| But before he had that, air quotes, incident at the Laugh Factory, we'd seen him a couple of times and it was weird. | ||
| It was like a really, really famous open mic night guy. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, strange. | ||
| It was like a guy who's super famous but really hasn't been doing it that much. | ||
| Because you're going up at the Laugh Factor Comedy store. | ||
| You've got to remember, it's murder. | ||
| They're not booking those people. | ||
| So it's murder drone for whatever reason you got in, but you're on that lineup with Bill Burr and you and Delia. | ||
| And you've got to go up and the crowd's used to seeing high-level fucking stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This was like, what? | ||
| 2006 or some shit? | ||
| When did all that go down with him? | ||
| Brian said he was at the Improv Control Bowl. | ||
| Well, I had gotten back to the comedy store, and I think it was Brent Ernst. | ||
| I think... | ||
| I think he saw, yeah, he was over at the Laugh Factory when it happened and he came back and he was like, he was like, yo, I just left the Laugh Factory. | ||
| He goes, fucking Kramer's up there throwing the n-bomb. | ||
| And I was like, no, what happened? | ||
| He goes, dude, it was crazy. | ||
| He lost his shit. | ||
| He was getting heckled. | ||
| So we had heard about it. | ||
| But then when the cell phone video got leaked. | ||
| TMZ released that shit. | ||
| Everybody was like, oh, wow. | ||
| Game, set, match. | ||
| Like, this is a new thing. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Yeah, it was weird, man. | ||
| I was doing a set in the belly room the other night, and I've never seen Brody Stevens do stand-up. | ||
| I've never seen him. | ||
| And then he got up there and just... | ||
| Again, I know who he is, obviously. | ||
| He's always around, but I've never seen him do this. | ||
| And then he just came out doing crowd work and not using the mic. | ||
| And I looked at Sam, and I go... | ||
| What the fuck's he doing, man? | ||
| He's like, you've never seen him again? | ||
| He goes, just watch. | ||
| And it was so funny, man. | ||
| Yeah, Brody's... | ||
| He's been doing it forever, and he's just fantastic at that. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| He does crowd work for... | ||
| He does warm-ups for so many television shows for so many years that he's, like, super comfortable just talking to people. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was fucking... | ||
| I was done. | ||
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The special came out recently. | |
| I think it's on iTunes. | ||
| I don't know if it's anywhere else. | ||
| Live from the main room? | ||
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They taped it in the main... | |
| Doing that set, the Kinnison set, the spot. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| Dude, that's so cool. | ||
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Wow. | |
| When did they do this? | ||
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I just came out maybe a couple weeks ago. | |
| Yeah, he was talking about it on stage. | ||
| Good for them. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| He can go around and he'll go, Iowa. | ||
| And they're like, yeah, from Iowa. | ||
| He goes, there you go. | ||
| And moves on to the next person. | ||
| I'm like, Jesus Christ, man. | ||
| It was so funny. | ||
| He's a weird guy. | ||
| He's like, I'll be here to 2 a.m. | ||
| It's 10. 2 a.m. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| That's how he kicked it off. | ||
| I'm like, what is going on right now? | ||
| Well, his style is so unusual because on paper, you would never understand where the punchlines are. | ||
| But then when you hear him say it, you can't stop laughing. | ||
| I was dying. | ||
| I don't know if he writes it or if he just does it. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| I'd like to ask him if he writes stuff down or if he just does it. | ||
| There's a few guys like that that are just funny the way... | ||
| Theo's like that. | ||
| Funny the way they say shit. | ||
| Theo says shit that I could say the same shit, it wouldn't be funny, but he says it and it's fucking hilarious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the king about comedy, man. | ||
| Nobody really knows what funny is until you hear it. | ||
| But there's also something... | ||
| Steve Simone, he was saying... | ||
| Because I was telling him, he goes, man, you hear a lot. | ||
| I go, yeah, I'm trying to just jump on anyone's shows because I want to make sure it's not my crowd because you've got to figure out what's funny because you just played your shows. | ||
| I don't want to be that guy. | ||
| He goes, who told you that? | ||
| Who the fuck told you that? | ||
| He goes, everyone here is trying to get their crowds. | ||
| He goes, when you're on the road, you want your crowd, man. | ||
| I'm like, I know, but when I'm here, I want to make sure it's not my crowd. | ||
| Because I feel like the funny uncle at the barbecue if it's my crowd. | ||
| You don't find out what's working. | ||
| Like at the Ice House, if it's my crowd, especially at the Ice House, I'd walk off and feel like Kevin Hart. | ||
| Like, what the fuck? | ||
| That was a fucking A+. But then you go to the comedy store, and if it's not your crowd, you're like, that was a D. That was a fucking D. That's true, but if you go to the Ice House, and it's your crowd, and you actually record it and listen to it, you can... | ||
| Which I do. | ||
| That's important. | ||
| You can tell what is actually going to work and what's not going to work. | ||
| You can tell. | ||
| And then you can tighten it up. | ||
| So you have extra confidence at a place like the Ice House to do different shit. | ||
| To me, what it's like, it's like cross-training. | ||
| Like, it's not a bad idea to do some kettlebells and run some hills and do jujitsu. | ||
| It'll probably make you jujitsu better. | ||
| And I think just doing crowds where no one knows who you are is great, but doing crowds where they know who you are is great, too. | ||
| And as long as you're paying attention, you get a different thing from each one. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| 100% right. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you also get different things from different sized rooms, you know? | ||
| Dude, there's certain things that will work at the Laugh Factory in certain pockets that won't work anywhere at the comedy. | ||
| It's so strange to me. | ||
| It's a weird thing, man. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| It's as strange as it gets. | ||
| You can feel different energies. | ||
| It's so cool. | ||
| It's so fascinating, man. | ||
| It is, right? | ||
| If you want to talk to someone about the comedy store and, like, the history of it, Steve Simone. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He knows a lot of shit. | ||
| Steve's been around for a long time and couldn't be a nicer guy. | ||
| Might be the nicest guy in the world. | ||
| He might be the nicest guy that's ever lived. | ||
| Almost like there's a darkness back there that I want to meet. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I wonder what's going on there. | ||
| You want to push him. | ||
| He's doing this new bit about his dad. | ||
| I was like, can we come from a good family, it sounds like. | ||
| Where's this come from, man? | ||
| Nice guy from a good family. | ||
| He was opening up for Ari in San Francisco. | ||
| Oh, was he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Cobbs. | ||
| Cobbs is an interesting room. | ||
| It used to be the tiniest room. | ||
| It used to be like 150 people, a little tiny room on the road, but it was so good, everybody wanted to do it. | ||
| And then they moved to that place, which is like 450. 450. Giant-ass ceiling. | ||
| It's a big place. | ||
| It's an interesting crowd there, too. | ||
| Very liberal. | ||
| Well, that's San Francisco, man. | ||
| San Francisco, highly educated, very progressive. | ||
| You're doing a different kind of comedy there. | ||
| Doing an abortion joke. | ||
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Ah! | |
| Ah! | ||
| They didn't like it? | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| More of a reference, but it did not go well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you can feel it. | ||
| You can feel it. | ||
| Is there anything worse? | ||
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Nope. | |
| But, you know, what it is, is when you run into a subject that people don't accept, you gotta ask yourself, okay, does my sense of humor different than theirs? | ||
| Or did I do a shitty job in figuring out how to get that subject to them? | ||
| You know, because some subjects, like, there's quite a few bits that are... | ||
| Going to be in my Netflix special that when I first started doing them, they weren't that good. | ||
| There was something missing. | ||
| Like, I knew there was something there, but you don't... | ||
| You only know so much when it's written. | ||
| You really find out what's good when you try it on stage, and then that's when it sort of comes to life. | ||
| It's like, I have... | ||
| Almost every bit that I've ever done written in some way, but they're all rarely the way I do them. | ||
| You know, once you get on stage with it, that's when you start fucking with it and figure out how to do it. | ||
| You have more of an outline. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then when you get on stage, it's like... | ||
| Yeah, but it's... | ||
| Along the way, sometimes it just tanks. | ||
| That has to happen. | ||
| Some guys stick with it though, don't they? | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| I saw you do this the other night, man. | ||
| It's not working. | ||
| You've got to move it around. | ||
| But a good beating, like doing it where it doesn't work, makes you just refocus. | ||
| Let me go back and look at this thing and figure out why these people got upset. | ||
| Oh, you know what? | ||
| If I just do this first, then they'll know where I'm coming from first. | ||
| They'll let me get away with that because they won't think I'm an asshole. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| And you're especially finished editing yourself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's uncommon, right? | ||
| Well, I didn't have much to edit in terms of content. | ||
| It was just how much should I cut out and what show was the best one. | ||
| That was what it was. | ||
| Really, a lot of the best one was the first show. | ||
| See, I heard Tony, as soon as you guys got done, because I text you and I text Tony and he goes, I don't even know why we're filming a second one. | ||
| Home run off the first. | ||
| It really was, yeah, out of the park. | ||
| Boston's fun, man. | ||
| Wilbur, right? | ||
| That Wilbur theater's amazing. | ||
| You know, because it's like a theater, but it's also like a comedy club. | ||
| Because there's 900 or 1,100 people in the room, and I think it's like 500, 300, 300 or something like that. | ||
| Reminds me of the Palms. | ||
| You've come, kid, the Palms. | ||
| People are right on top of you. | ||
| They're right on top of you. | ||
| Where most theaters so far, you can't feel it. | ||
| Cat Williams did the Poms one time when we were there. | ||
| I didn't get a chance to see him, though. | ||
| God, he's fucking funny. | ||
| Yeah, he was there. | ||
| I think he was there like the day before the UFC or something like that. | ||
| My brother went and saw Kevin Hart. | ||
| He was at Pepsi Center. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| I wonder how the fuck do you pull off stand-up at the Pepsi Center? | ||
| Jay goes, I know. | ||
| And my brother's a little bit of a hater by nature. | ||
| He goes, he can't be that good. | ||
| And I'm like, dude, he's like the most successful comic ever touring in these stadiums. | ||
| I bet it's pretty fucking good. | ||
| And he goes in there and he was at like a round stage, like 360, and he goes, dude, it was incredible. | ||
| Best he's ever seen. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| It's a fucking powerhouse, man. | ||
| Powerhouse. | ||
| That guy's a hustling, performing powerhouse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Interesting, right? | ||
| It's interesting when you see those super winners. | ||
| Those super winners that just push the envelope of success. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| You know, those qualities are very strange. | ||
| It's also strange in comedy because someone, Kevin Hart might be your cup of tea, but then they might hate Bill Burr. | ||
| It's very strange to me. | ||
| That's silly. | ||
| I shouldn't say hate, but maybe, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, Bill Burr might be just okay to you, but Kevin Hart's your number one. | ||
| Yeah, but... | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| That's normal. | ||
| There's always going to be people that have different tastes. | ||
| That's the same with music. | ||
| That's the same with books. | ||
| Everything. | ||
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100%. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a crazy time for stand-up, though. | ||
| If you think about how many different comedians are really good right now and have specials, whew. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| Netflix is blowing up. | ||
| Blowing up. | ||
| Do you know Russell Peters was the first comic to get a Netflix special? | ||
| When did he get his? | ||
| A long ass time ago. | ||
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Really? | |
| I heard him in an interview talking about it. | ||
| I think it was with Sway in the morning. | ||
| And he goes, that was the first one. | ||
| They say, how much did they pay you? | ||
| And he talks about it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And he goes, 10% of what Chris Rock got paid. | ||
| And they looked it up. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| When was he the first one? | ||
| What year was it? | ||
| Old school. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Find out. | ||
| Let's find out. | ||
| Russell Peters comedy special. | ||
| Russell Peters is a monster. | ||
| I had one on Netflix in 2005. I think Russell Peters beat ya. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| If he was first. | ||
| Pretty sure he said he was first. | ||
| 2005? | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| I didn't even know Netflix was back then. | ||
| Yeah, nobody knew. | ||
| That was part of the problem. | ||
| When people are like, my special's on C, so I'm like, oh, fuck. | ||
| So what else is going on this weekend with the UFC? What other fights are there? | ||
| Well, you got the Ultimate Fighter finale on Friday, Brad Tavares. | ||
| Is there any other on that card? | ||
| Stylebender. | ||
| Ooh, Stylebender. | ||
| Brad Tavares versus Stylebender? | ||
| Brad's a motherfucker, man. | ||
| I think Brad beats him, but I think... | ||
| I love Stylebender, but Brad's been quietly 4-0, but also Brad is a guy who... | ||
| The rumor is he's injured during this fight. | ||
| He was going to call the fight off. | ||
| He's injured. | ||
| How dare you say that online? | ||
| No, it's all over. | ||
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It's out. | |
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah, it's out. | ||
| What's he injured with? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's supposed to pull out, but he's going through it. | ||
| So it depends. | ||
| People forget Bracken fucking wrestled, too. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| That's a fucking juicy fight. | ||
| That's a tough fight for Stylebender. | ||
| From Nigeria, 13-0, son. | ||
| He's a motherfucker. | ||
| He really is. | ||
| He's so exciting. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| That's very good. | ||
| Let me see the regular UFC card again. | ||
| That's a big fight. | ||
| So that's the headline fight? | ||
| Yeah, and it's Ultimate Fighter, which is... | ||
| You see they're selling the Ultimate Fighter house? | ||
| That's how you know Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| They're selling it? | ||
| They're selling it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Five mil, son, you want it? | ||
| Five mil? | ||
|
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What? | |
| Good investment. | ||
| What? | ||
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Did you say? | |
| It's like 19 bedrooms. | ||
| People peed all over that house. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| You've got to go in there that's going to smell like a dude's balls. | ||
| I mean, dude's jacked off in those closets without camera. | ||
| That's a good fight right there. | ||
| That's a very good fight. | ||
| Gokhan Saki and Khalil Roundtree Jr. That's a motherfucking fight. | ||
| That's a real good fight. | ||
| Felder, Mike Perry. | ||
| That's a fucking fight. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Felder at welterweight. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| He's a big dude. | ||
| Felder has to cut some serious weight to make 155. Felder's a monster on the mic, too. | ||
| He's a great commentator. | ||
| Very smart. | ||
| Paolo Costa and Uriah Hall. | ||
| That's very interesting. | ||
| VTOR 2.0. | ||
| I'm not saying Paolo Costa's on all the drugs, but how does he pass this fucking test? | ||
| Whose nose is clogged up for that sniff test? | ||
| Whose allergies are kicking in that day? | ||
| I forgot their inhaler. | ||
| How does Nowitzki just not live wherever his house is? | ||
| Dude, he is first team all the door. | ||
| Is Lando Vinat on that card too? | ||
| Go down there. | ||
| Yeah, look at it. | ||
| It's close. | ||
| Jakar Close and Lando Venato, that might be the sleeper of the night, folks. | ||
| Yeah, I get this. | ||
| No one's even talking about that fight. | ||
| It's on Fight Pass. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Dude, Hooker and Burns is a motherfucking fight, too. | ||
| Gilbert Burns, Dan Hooker. | ||
| Holy shit, what a card this is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, this card is insane. | ||
| Great card. | ||
| This is an insane card, because people aren't even talking about this Hooker-Burns fight. | ||
| Dude, you know what's going to be sad, though? | ||
| I think the pay-per-view numbers. | ||
| Oh, how dare you. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| Stipe versus DC. It might get into the twos. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Well, and a lot of people like Max Holloway and Brian Ortega, you don't think it can make it into the twos? | ||
| Hell yeah, 200. 200 would be a nightmare, sir. | ||
| 250 was the last one, right? | ||
| Which was terrible. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| See, I'm hoping it does around 500 to 600. Make GSP fight again. | ||
| You need GSP back. | ||
| Bring GSP back. | ||
| He was the last one to get real good numbers. | ||
| He got 850, right? | ||
| I know. | ||
| But I think this does around between 400 and 600. Yeah. | ||
| What do you think, Jamie? | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| Jamie made a weird face. | ||
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I have no idea. | |
| It's tough to tell these days, man. | ||
| I think they need to get rid of the pay-per-view model. | ||
| It's obviously not working anymore. | ||
| What do you think they should do? | ||
| I think they should put these on for free. | ||
| I think they should put on ESPN these major fights. | ||
| Are you going to pay people? | ||
| The top four NBA guys are getting more than the top 10 NFL quarterbacks, and those games are all free. | ||
| So there's a model somewhere. | ||
| But this model's not working. | ||
| Yeah, but NBA is way more popular than the UFC. Sure, but it's also free. | ||
| But also the sponsorship deals, the endorsement deals, they have major endorsements. | ||
| Right, but there's only so many endorsements they're going to get behind cage fighting. | ||
| You know, it's such a crazy sport. | ||
| Or fucking Harley-Davidson, Ford, Bud Light, Miller Light. | ||
| Like, we've had some big ones. | ||
| More now, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Roughly the same amount of people also. | ||
| Like, same amount of fighters, same amount of NBA players. | ||
| About 500 or so. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there's no comparison in terms of overall viewership, though. | ||
| Like, what is a big basketball game, NBA Finals? | ||
| 35? | ||
| A million, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, they're killing it. | ||
| I'm just saying, I think that the pay-per-view model is so old school, especially now with the legal streaming. | ||
| Me and Jamie were talking about it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If I'm not that guy, because I find I'm not trying to steal money from UFC, but there's a link I can go to every time that's in HD, I don't have to pay a fucking dime for it. | ||
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Really? | |
| Everyone. | ||
| So many of my friends do that. | ||
| I have so many people. | ||
| They're going to jail when Uncle Fester finds out. | ||
| So when the numbers are low, you've got to take that into consideration. | ||
| Most 18 to 36 males can figure the fuck out. | ||
| They're not like, $70? | ||
| No. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| I wonder if you just had it free, if the numbers would be, well, I You've got to make money. | ||
| You've got to make a big fucking risk to do that because you've got to think of how much money the UFC has to pay every month to make that loan, to make that monthly nut. | ||
| That's on them. | ||
| That's not the fans' problem. | ||
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That's true. | |
| The other problem is think how expensive it is to be an MMA fan these days. | ||
| So I've got to fork out money for ESPN Plus now just to watch. | ||
| How much is that? | ||
| Was it $9.99? | ||
|
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Yeah, I don't know. | |
| You could call it low-end, $5 a month. | ||
|
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I think it's $10. | |
| Okay, $9.99. | ||
| So you got that, right? | ||
| When does that go live? | ||
| Because Fight Pass is still... | ||
| 2019, January. | ||
| So I got to pay for that. | ||
| So that's money, additional money. | ||
| And then pay-per-views. | ||
| There's one every month. | ||
| So if I want that, that's $70. | ||
| So that's $80 a month just to be a UFC fan. | ||
| Now if I want to watch Dyson, Dyson, Dyson, Bellator, I got to pay... | ||
| How much is that going to be? | ||
| $9.99 to watch the Bellator now. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
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It didn't say. | |
| I was looking. | ||
| Let's say it's $9.99. | ||
| Less than that, I'm assuming something's wrong with the streaming service. | ||
| Well, if they just had a free streaming service and then had ads, do you think they could make it up? | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| My point is, it's getting expensive to be an MMA fan, and you're losing fans. | ||
| And the numbers are in decline. | ||
| So obviously there's a business model problem. | ||
| What if they made a deal with Netflix? | ||
| They tried that. | ||
| Netflix, Amazon, those guys didn't want to play a game. | ||
| Your audience isn't big enough. | ||
| Twitter went, we'll use the NBA. We're going to go the NFL route. | ||
| Because other sports are too big. | ||
| Twitter. | ||
| What if they showed it on Twitter? | ||
| Can you get Twitter on your TV? If you have it on your phone, you could just send it to the screen. | ||
| Yeah, but what if your phone runs out of batteries? | ||
| In the middle of the fight, your friends call you pussy. | ||
| We'll plug it in, son. | ||
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Sometimes it's not linking. | |
| It's not playing off your phone directly. | ||
| Now, when you do it, I do it through Apple TV, but you could do it through Google Android, right? | ||
| You could do, like, Google Play. | ||
|
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You have, like, a stick that sticks in the USB. Yeah, there's a little symbol. | |
| Interesting. | ||
| I mean, that all used to be science fiction just a little while ago, but I see shit on my, like someone sends me a YouTube video to watch. | ||
| If I'm home watching something on Apple TV, I'll just stream it right to the TV. 100%. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Is that us? | ||
|
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Oh, hi. | |
| Oh, what up? | ||
| There's a little symbol, like on the top by the bar. | ||
| It's just a broadcast to a TV thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like UFC has this old-school model right now. | ||
| But with ESPN +, it's at least headed in the right direction. | ||
| But the pay-per-view model, especially as expensive as it is to be a fan right now, they're making it tough. | ||
| I think it's going to come a time where you're not going to need any streaming service. | ||
| You'll just be able to type a website address into your television, and it'll be universal. | ||
| Everybody will have that. | ||
| I think that's real close. | ||
| Like, a lot of people getting rid of their cable. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Dish. | ||
| Apparently young kids, they never watch cable anymore. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Yeah, they just don't watch it. | ||
| I'm a Dish fan, but most young kids don't fuck with any of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Dish what? | ||
| That's interesting, right? | ||
| Comcast, huh? | ||
| The only thing it's good for, really, is live events. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| Everything else. | ||
| Netflix is more popular than broadcast cable and more in TV viewing. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Hulu and YouTube. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The thing I read said it's got more viewers than all of those combined, but I don't know if that's accurate. | ||
| Broadcast, cable, Hulu, and YouTube. | ||
| Netflix has more than everything. | ||
| See, if Netflix got the UFC, that would be crazy. | ||
| For the UFC. For the UFC. Netflix, like, dude, what? | ||
| What if they just bought it? | ||
| They could. | ||
| What if they just said, we have so much money? | ||
| Like, how much is your not? | ||
| Four billion? | ||
| Four billion? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We'll just buy it. | ||
| Just write them the check. | ||
| We'll just buy it. | ||
| It's like a pair of sneakers that you're never going to wear. | ||
| Just let them fight every day. | ||
| We don't give a fuck. | ||
| Just air it. | ||
| They could do it, man. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| Yeah, that would be – but then how would you figure out how people get paid? | ||
| You'd have to give numbers, right? | ||
| It would have to be in the contract because that's one thing about Netflix. | ||
| They don't want to give away the numbers. | ||
| So if you have a comedy special on Netflix and you ask them, hey, how's it doing? | ||
| They go, it's doing really well. | ||
| We're really happy. | ||
| Yeah, but you know because like you, they go, you want to do another? | ||
| You're like, well, it must have went pretty well. | ||
| Now if you do a special on there and you're like, how are we doing like – All right! | ||
| Yeah, keep on keeping on, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you want to do another? | ||
| We're all set. | ||
| It probably didn't go well. | ||
| You don't have exact numbers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which I feel like is a little hairy, a little dicey, because you have no negotiating power. | ||
| Yeah, it's super dicey. | ||
| Because if you're like, hold on. | ||
| Let's say you, for instance, you're like, hold up. | ||
| A hundred million people watch this? | ||
| I need more fucking money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, to them, is five million watching good? | ||
| Is a hundred million? | ||
| Where are we at here? | ||
| Nobody knows. | ||
| Let me negotiate. | ||
| That can't be... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, they can't be good. | ||
| But it's their business. | ||
| They started it. | ||
| The thing is, like, you don't have to do it there. | ||
| Don't you think? | ||
| But you could do it on HBO, and then you'd get real numbers. | ||
| Or you could do it on Showtime, and you'd get real numbers. | ||
| Or you could do it on Amazon. | ||
| Jeff Bezos tells you to go fuck yourself. | ||
| Do you think you're at a disadvantage if you're not on Netflix these days? | ||
| Because here's my argument that I had with Brian about things shooting a special. | ||
| Netflix is the king, man. | ||
| And if you're you, if you're Bill Burr, if you're Kevin Hart, not Kevin Hart, if you're fucking Chris Rock, any of those guys, right? | ||
| They're paying you a massive amount of money and they're promoting it. | ||
| But if you get lost into that shuffle, because they have so much content now, it doesn't pay off. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know, Gaffigan, interestingly enough, decided not to do it. | ||
| And he could do it anywhere. | ||
| And he decided to do it on all platforms. | ||
| So he doesn't have it on Netflix, but he has it on a bunch of different things. | ||
| See where Gaffigan put his special up. | ||
| But he did it on his own site, right? | ||
| And released it. | ||
| Very Louis C.K. style. | ||
| Yeah, I think he actually, I think it's available on Amazon. | ||
| I think it's available on a bunch of different things. | ||
| He's so established, though. | ||
| Yeah, true. | ||
| Jim Gaffigan's a motherfucker. | ||
| People still ask him to do his Hot Pockets. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point, because I think that they probably, no matter where he goes, his fans are very loyal. | ||
| They'll go seek it out. | ||
| He's one of the biggest in the world. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But I'm saying if you're like, let's say you're a guy like Brian Callen, where are you going to get the most exposure? | ||
| Honestly, YouTube. | ||
| The most exposure would just be released for free. | ||
| For free. | ||
| But that's very expensive to do. | ||
| It says, Gaffigan's Noble Ape initially will be released on multiple pay TV and digital platforms, including Apple's iTunes, Amazon Video, AT&T, Charter Communications, Comcast, Cox Communication, DirecTV, Holla at DirecTV, Dish Network, oh shit, Google Play, and Sony PlayStation. | ||
| This shit says, Walmart's Voodoo. | ||
| Well, Walmart has Voodoo. | ||
| Microsoft's Xbox. | ||
| An album version will also be released on the same day in digital and physical formats. | ||
| That motherfucker going sizzler. | ||
| A $5 download via Louis C.K. Net. | ||
| Yeah, it's interesting. | ||
| It's interesting because I think that he could do it. | ||
| So if he does it and then it really works out well, maybe Kevin Hart might do that too. | ||
| Maybe he might say, listen, I could charge $4.99. | ||
| Well, he could do whatever he wants. | ||
| He might be like, hey, I'm Kevin Hart. | ||
| I could just have people are going to go watch my special. | ||
| I'll just put it somewhere. | ||
| There's only a few who can do that. | ||
| Yeah, there's a small handful. | ||
| If you're a smaller level comic, let's say B-List, you can't do that and make money. | ||
| People are going to see it, so maybe you get money back when you go on the road. | ||
| It's like, holy shit, that was great and it's free, so you go on the road and do it in theaters now, maybe. | ||
| Well, that's the thing. | ||
| Do you know how many comics have done that and had a YouTube video that became a giant smash and then were selling out theaters? | ||
| What is that girl, Angela Johnson? | ||
| You know Angela Johnson? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's on MADtv. | ||
| She has that hilarious bit about the Vietnamese girls doing her nails. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That bit got on YouTube and she was selling out giant- Crittle gel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crittle gel. | ||
| She's hilarious. | ||
| Very funny. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fucking hilarious. | ||
| She was selling out giant places. | ||
| Well, to that extent, not that Chris D'Elia is similar to that, but Chris D'Elia on Snapchat, his videos were so funny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It made him insanely popular. | ||
| He's so silly. | ||
| Amongst other stuff, but that's one of the huge, you know, he had millions of followers on there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you go into Citi and And he's a brilliant comic. | ||
| He's one of the biggest in the world now. | ||
| He's so silly. | ||
| He's a unique kind of silly. | ||
| He's a weird silly. | ||
| You would hate us if you saw our text every day about shoes and fashion. | ||
| The Yeezy Dad shoes came out. | ||
| I'm like, dude, I can get them. | ||
| You want a pair? | ||
| He's like, yes. | ||
| What are Yeezy Dad shoes, Jamie? | ||
| Well, you might like them. | ||
| You like them more than the 350 Boost. | ||
| Sweat these boy Converse Red suede I know I'm wearing these just for you When did you get those? | ||
| Converse actually sent them to me. | ||
| I would never have bought these. | ||
| They sent me those, but I put them. | ||
| I said, I'll wear these motherfuckers. | ||
| Hell yeah, those are fucking dope. | ||
| Those are Yeezys, those things? | ||
| Those are Yeezys. | ||
| And you like those? | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| What are you, a San Jose Sharks fan? | ||
| No, I do not. | ||
| It looks like a shark. | ||
| No, let me just say this. | ||
| That was the first Yeezy, and I can get them. | ||
| They're coming out. | ||
| But I went, I'm going to pass. | ||
| I'm going to pass on those. | ||
| And I go, Chris, you want these? | ||
| And I went, Chris, these only look good on small guys. | ||
| He goes, you're right, but I'm smaller. | ||
| I go, with the right outfit and small jeans you can wear them. | ||
| He goes, you're right, Brent. | ||
| And we're going back and forth. | ||
| And I screenshot it. | ||
| And I sent to Brian and went, fuck you. | ||
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Ah! | |
| Because Brian likes to wear those boots that make him look like he's an Italian painter. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And wishes he was taller. | ||
| Yeah, he's got those boots with like wooden heels with leather soles that are really slippery. | ||
| Very strange. | ||
| And then they have zippers on the sides. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck are you wearing? | ||
| You're supposed to wear these when you're in Catholic school. | ||
| Like, why are you wearing this as a grown man who's 51 years old? | ||
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Yeah, he's crazy. | |
| He never had a period of time where he dressed like his age. | ||
| Never. | ||
| He's like finally old as his dress. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like he is now the age he's supposed to be. | ||
| He like got older and fell into his established wardrobe. | ||
| Not anymore, bro. | ||
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What? | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| What is this? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| The fuck is happening? | ||
| That's not Brian. | ||
| Why is he dressed like a skater? | ||
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That looks just like him. | |
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Are those slides? | ||
| That does look identical to him. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| That's Brian. | ||
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I think that's him. | |
| Dude, that's fucking Brian. | ||
| That's Brian Callan. | ||
| Dressed as a tool. | ||
| Make that face bigger. | ||
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Very blurry. | |
| Dude, what is happening? | ||
| Are those slides? | ||
| Are those slides? | ||
| Is that black socks and slides? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's Brian Callen. | ||
| For a special, he wants me to dress him. | ||
| And I'm going to get credits on a special. | ||
| Don't, don't, don't, don't. | ||
| Let him be himself. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Say dress the way you want to dress, bro. | ||
| That's what I told him. | ||
| It is him. | ||
| It is him. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| Where's that at, Jamie? | ||
| Those are black socks and sandals. | ||
| Or are those... | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| Those are skate shoes. | ||
| Dude, those are Case Swift? | ||
| Roll down those shoes. | ||
| I was hoping that those were black socks. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Asian style. | ||
| I thought they were black socks and slides because they're so gross. | ||
| Where the white stripe goes over the top. | ||
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Proper use of slides. | |
| Is that the proper use? | ||
| Black socks? | ||
| Is that how you're supposed to do it? | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| Is that how everybody does it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Tight move, Joe. | ||
| You can do it with slides, but you can't do it with flip-flops, correct? | ||
| Like, slides and socks is okay. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Why do they have rules like that? | ||
| It's the streets, bro. | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| It's gross if you like that sock in between your toe with that bar with a flip-flop. | ||
| Like a master splinter or some shit? | ||
| Like you're a ninja? | ||
| You got those ninja shoes on? | ||
| Remember those ninja shoes? | ||
| I fuck yeah! | ||
| I had them, man. | ||
| What are they called? | ||
| Tabbies or something like that? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Remember when dudes would wear those kung fu shoes? | ||
| Do you remember those kung fu shoes? | ||
| You didn't grow up on the East Coast, did you? | ||
| No. | ||
| Fuck no. | ||
| A lot of dudes in the 1990s and certainly in the 80s would wear kung fu shoes. | ||
| Just as whatever? | ||
| They would dress up like they knew Kung Fu. | ||
| They would wear like Kung Fu pants. | ||
| Those things. | ||
| Those are Todd's. | ||
| Those are called Todd's these days. | ||
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That's what they're called. | |
| Those are Kung Fu shoes, son. | ||
| Dudes would wear Kung Fu like they knew Kung Fu because they had those shoes on. | ||
| They'd be like, damn. | ||
| Dude, I'm not mad at that. | ||
| Those are different. | ||
| Those are more fashionable. | ||
| Yeah, those first ones you show are some bullshit. | ||
| Somebody had a bit about it, about dudes in the ghetto. | ||
| I think it was... | ||
| Do you remember that guy that had a bunch of fucking... | ||
| He had a bunch of... | ||
| Bunch of specials on HBO. Robert Townsend. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Remember Robert Townsend? | ||
| Remember he had a bunch of HBO specials where he had a bunch of different comedians on? | ||
| I feel like someone on one of those did a bit. | ||
| Did a kung fu bit? | ||
| About dudes in the ghetto who dressed up like they wore kung fu outfits. | ||
| I'll tell you who I don't fucking trust. | ||
| Dudes that wear aqua socks. | ||
| What do you mean by aqua socks? | ||
| Like blue socks? | ||
| No, bro. | ||
| Aqua socks, like if you went to Waterworld or like a water park, aqua socks. | ||
| Wearing them out in public? | ||
| Dude, nothing dries a fucking girl up worse than aqua socks. | ||
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Really? | |
| It dries them up? | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Bring a fucking aqua socks. | ||
| You can still get them at Walmart and shit. | ||
| Who wears them? | ||
| My dad wore them when I was a kid. | ||
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Those? | |
| Yes, fuck you. | ||
| Who wears those? | ||
| You walk around with those on? | ||
| Yeah, if you're at the water park, so you get traction. | ||
| Okay, that makes sense. | ||
| But dudes wear them in real life? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like some assholes. | ||
| Maybe they want to be a superhero. | ||
| Maybe they're just ready for water at all times. | ||
| Like, what is the purpose of those? | ||
| So you don't slip on the outside of the pool? | ||
| Yeah, because it's all hot and shit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Quit being a pussy. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| But those are, like, fairly similar to, like, minimalist shoes. | ||
| See, those are cool. | ||
| See, you bring up cool ones, Jim. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| How is that cool? | ||
| Because those are dope, bro. | ||
| You like that? | ||
| Well, that's some shit you would run in. | ||
| Sagwa- Yes, I would. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm talking about the original Aqua sock. | ||
| But it's different. | ||
| See that one right there that you just showed? | ||
| That last one? | ||
| The last one. | ||
| The one above that? | ||
| The one that looks like a normal sneaker? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, like that. | ||
| Like that, yeah. | ||
| Those look real similar to the shit I wear when I run. | ||
| Some tibias. | ||
| I run with those, they have like nothing to them. | ||
| You still run with those? | ||
| Yeah, I love those. | ||
| Dude, my feet are way stronger because of running that way. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Made a big difference. | ||
| It definitely made a difference. | ||
| Yeah, because your feet have to work way harder. | ||
| It's not like, if you run in a pair of like, I like to run in like Salomon speed cross shoes because they got a lot of traction. | ||
| You could run on anything. | ||
| You don't worry about where you're stepping. | ||
| You just dump on shit. | ||
| But your foot doesn't have as much engagement. | ||
| Like when there's no cushioning at all, and it's a thin layer, your foot is like pushing off and gripping things. | ||
| It's some shit, but you can't just jump. | ||
| It strengthens your feet. | ||
| You just can't go fucking full, vibrant shoe, which I tried. | ||
| You got that planter, right? | ||
| I did. | ||
| That planter fasciitis is no joke, son. | ||
| Yeah, that's a nightmare, son. | ||
| I'm back to cushy shoes, the Yeezys and shit. | ||
| Oh, you like those? | ||
| But you don't run anymore, right? | ||
| I need to inject some shit into my leg. | ||
| I need to go full fucking VTOR in my leg. | ||
| Dude, I'm telling you. | ||
| They can do that now. | ||
| Homeboys around here, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're doing all kinds of shit now, son. | ||
| You know what else we should do? | ||
| We should do it on air. | ||
| We should get NAD drips. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe they'll do it in here. | ||
| It's supposed to be insanely painful. | ||
| If you do the push NAV where it's like 15 minutes, It'd be funny if we did a podcast. | ||
| It's supposed to make your guts wrench like someone stomping on your stomach. | ||
| But if you get through it, you get through it in 15 minutes versus 8 hours. | ||
| Hold up. | ||
| 15 minutes and what's it do? | ||
| It's supposed to be incredible for anti-aging. | ||
| I'm down for that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 15 minutes of glory? | ||
| 15 minutes of like... | ||
| Just the worst podcast of all time. | ||
| I would think it'd be a fun podcast. | ||
| Because for the rest of the time, he'd be fine. | ||
| So beforehand, he'd be fine. | ||
| And then for 15 minutes, he'd be like, I want to shit my pants! | ||
| And then he'd do that for 15 minutes. | ||
| And then how happy we'll be after 15 minutes. | ||
| After it's over, you'll feel great. | ||
| And have Callan in here making fun of us. | ||
| Yeah, eating cheese and shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, he can't eat cheese anymore. | ||
| Psoriasis is too bad. | ||
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What? | |
| He has horrible psoriasis. | ||
| He can't eat cheese? | ||
| No. | ||
| What's he eating? | ||
| He's on some weird diet. | ||
| He refuses to take the proper medication. | ||
| He's one of those guys, huh? | ||
| Isn't it funny that he would make fun of anti-vaxxers, but he wouldn't take medication? | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| What medication does he not take? | ||
| Does it fuck with him or something? | ||
| No, he says it solves it for a little bit, but it's not a complete problem. | ||
| It's my diet. | ||
| I'm like, dude, whatever you're doing, just use the goddamn ointment. | ||
| Well, you know, Jordan Peterson said... | ||
| Go see the psoriasis kid in Tampa, by the way, this weekend. | ||
| Oh, where's he at? | ||
| Tampa Improv. | ||
| Psoriasis kid. | ||
| Don't look down on him from the third floor, though. | ||
| Tampa Improv has three floors. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Look down from the top, you see that bald spot. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
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It's very uncomfortable. | |
| You want to sit lower level. | ||
| You don't see his legs, there's a bald spot. | ||
| Tampa Improv, that's a weird area. | ||
| That's like Igor City, right? | ||
| Igor, yeah. | ||
| I was just there. | ||
| Did you like it? | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| Fun people. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| I love Texas, man. | ||
| Jordan Peterson cured his psoriasis with a carnivore diet. | ||
| He did that carnivore diet where all he eats is meat. | ||
| That's all he eats. | ||
| Red meat. | ||
| And he got rid of it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's all he eats. | ||
| Brian should fucking try that, man. | ||
| Whatever he's doing, his legs are so bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sucks, man. | ||
| Psoriasis is a rough one. | ||
| Stress, too. | ||
| You know, he's torn a lot. | ||
| Stress. | ||
| He's been traveling. | ||
| He has a show coming up. | ||
| He has a special... | ||
| Lot of shit. | ||
| Son. | ||
| So how many times are you going up a week now? | ||
| Last week I went up four times. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Yeah, at least three. | ||
| I'm stressed out this week because I'm on the road on Saturday, Oklahoma, and I'm doing a set at the Ice House and hopefully a set at Laugh Factory 2 if I can make them. | ||
| But I always want to be at the Comedy Store, man. | ||
| Yeah, anywhere you can get up, though, man. | ||
| Do you do the Ha Ha at all? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's a good spot. | ||
| Just go down there. | ||
| I'm gonna do... | ||
| Neil Brennan has a show, West Side Comedy Club, I think. | ||
| Yeah, I heard it. | ||
| Is that in Venice? | ||
| Venice, yeah. | ||
| Santa Monica. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I heard that's really good. | ||
| Yep, me too. | ||
| I think Callum was telling me about that, too. | ||
| That's close, too. | ||
| Yeah, it's close to you, right? | ||
| Super close. | ||
| Alright, so anything else? | ||
| Is there anything else we need to talk about before we wrap this bitch up, young Jamie? | ||
| Covet it, right? | ||
| Anything crazy that happened during the podcast you need to let us know about? | ||
| No? | ||
| Nothing? | ||
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Not today. | |
| Not today? | ||
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Not crazier than normal. | |
| I'm in Spokane next week. | ||
| Spokane, Washington. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then first two weeks of August, Texas. | ||
| Can't get enough. | ||
| I'm in Austin, Cap City, and then Dallas Improv second week. | ||
| Get you some, Texas. | ||
| Addison Improv, that one? | ||
| No, I think it's Dallas Improv. | ||
| It might be Addison. | ||
| I think it's in Addison. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's just outside of Dallas. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| tfatk.com. | ||
| tfatk.com. | ||
| All right, that's it. | ||
| Tomorrow. | ||
| What the fuck's tomorrow? | ||
| Joey Diaz. | ||
| Oh, snap. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Tomorrow's 4th of July. | ||
| Oh, Josh Barnett sent me a text message. | ||
| He said, I'd be more than happy to come on and explain the whole deal with USADA. Boom. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Shout out to Josh Barnett. | ||
| Shout out to the War Master. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Tomorrow, Joey Diaz. | ||
| 11 a.m. | ||
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