Dec. 29, 2009 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:45:11
Participants
| 
| Speaker | Time | Text |
|---|---|---|
|
unidentified
|
The Joe Rogan Experience. | |
| Train by day! | ||
| Joe Rogan Podcast by night! | ||
| All day! | ||
| It's live. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| End of the world, part two. | ||
| Tim Dillon, you savage. | ||
| It's good to see you, my friend. | ||
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| We're back. | ||
| Kyle Kalinske, a voice of reason, a person who actually understands politics. | ||
| That's debatable. | ||
| It is debatable. | ||
| We'll see how much the voice of reason I am. | ||
| I will say, I will lean towards you knowing what you're talking about. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh. | |
| So, do you have an opinion about how this is going to go down? | ||
| Yeah, do I have a prediction? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's very likely to be Joe Biden winning. | ||
| And what makes you say this? | ||
| First of all, let me just make clear so we don't get mass downvoted. | ||
| I'm not saying that because I necessarily want that to happen. | ||
| I'm saying that empirically, I think it's very likely that he's going to win. | ||
| And the reason I say that is, I actually sent this to you, Jamie, if you want to pull it up, but when you look at the polls, and I know we get into whether or not you should even believe the polls, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because you don't think so, right? | ||
| Well, my thing with polls, I even have a bit on it, is like, who answers polls? | ||
| Morons. | ||
| So if you're listening to morons, like 46% of morons believe this. | ||
| But nobody, a normal person with a regular life, hey Kyle, may I have a few minutes of your time to ask you about politics? | ||
| You don't say yes to that. | ||
| Morons say yes to that. | ||
| So the people that you're polling are almost all morons. | ||
| Or lonely or sad. | ||
| Lonely or sad. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Nobody polls me. | ||
| I'm waiting every night for a call I want to talk for hours about and no one cares. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you ever answered a poll? | ||
| I've never answered a poll, no. | ||
| Have you? | ||
| I've never been called. | ||
| Jamie, have you ever answered a poll? | ||
| Not a real one. | ||
| For Kleenex. | ||
| I don't know who they call and why they call them. | ||
| I don't believe in Poles and I don't believe in Nielsen families. | ||
| I don't think they're real. | ||
| I've never met a Nielsen family. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| People say they have a friend. | ||
| Oh, my friend's a Nielsen family. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Really? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| So our ratings, everything's just fake. | ||
| It's all fake. | ||
| Yeah, we don't know anything. | ||
| The news is now... | ||
| The news is definitely fake, I'll give you that. | ||
| Do you remember when fake news, when you would hear fake news, you'd be like, that's such an unfortunate term. | ||
| I hate when people say that, because you know it's not fake. | ||
| You know Hillary started that, right? | ||
| It wasn't Trump. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| Hillary was the first, the original one who said fake news, and then Trump took it and ran with it, and now everybody thinks it's just a Trump thing. | ||
| No way! | ||
| When did she do that? | ||
| I think the first time that that term came up, she said something. | ||
| It may have been in the context of like, oh, we need to regulate fake news online. | ||
| Like, fake news. | ||
| There's all these stories that blow up on Facebook and they're not true and maybe we should do something about it. | ||
| And she used the term fake news in a speech. | ||
| And then after that, it was Trump who started using it. | ||
| Now everybody thinks it's, you know, been him all along. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Hmm. | |
| Interesting. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Well, he used it a lot. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| I mean, yeah, now it's his, obviously. | ||
| It's crazy, though, that he's got like a patent on it. | ||
| 2016 was when we first heard that term. | ||
| Like, we have existed for a long time. | ||
| There's been media for a long time. | ||
| There's even internet for a long time, relatively. | ||
| And yet, fake news is a new thing. | ||
| And now... | ||
| But I used to think it was bullshit. | ||
| I used to think it was a cheap cop-out for someone who didn't want to deal with facts, and they would just tell their people, hey, this is fake news. | ||
| And you'd be like, but you know, that's not fake. | ||
| See... | ||
| I think Trump resonated is because he would say stuff that I think people around the country just had a sense that he he's right about it like Joe think about it the media in this country lied us into the Iraq war right if there was like that is the definition of fake news and Not only is it fake news, but it's fake news that led to the deaths of 200,000 innocent Iraqi civilians and thousands of our own soldiers. | ||
| When you say that, you don't think they were in on it, do you? | ||
| No, I don't think, see, the way it works is, and Noam Chomsky's got a book called Manufacturing Consent, where he really dives into the specifics of this and gives you the mechanics of it. | ||
| But basically the way it works is... | ||
| The people who get hired at these news outlets, they've all had like the proper training. | ||
| They go to the Ivy League schools, you know, they study journalism, and you only get promoted if they know you're really not going to rock the boat. | ||
| And what I mean by that is you basically repeat the line that the government wants you to repeat. | ||
| And so, you know, when George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were out there making the case, a good little journalist says, oh, here's what the president says, and here's what the vice president says, and they're saying that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, and then you had Colin Powell go to the UN and hold up the uranium and say, oh, see, I mean, what do you want to do? | ||
| Do you want, what did they say? | ||
| Do you want the evidence to come in the form of a mushroom-shaped cloud? | ||
| That was them saying, we need to act now, and forget about proving it, we have to act now, and the media went right along with them. | ||
| Was there any doubt That they knew that that was not true. | ||
| I think there are probably some people who made the argument who were convinced of the propaganda themselves. | ||
| But no, the decision had been made long before that, that Saddam Hussein was on a list of rogue actors who we wanted to overthrow. | ||
| And by the way, that list still exists today. | ||
| So all this fighting that we do with Iran, they're on the list and we want to overthrow them as well. | ||
| A lot of people don't know the history of it. | ||
| We want to get them bad. | ||
| They executed that Olympic wrestler? | ||
| No, why did they do that? | ||
| Because he went to a protest. | ||
| Oh, the Iranians executed? | ||
| Yeah, he went to a peaceful protest and they wanted to make an example of him. | ||
| He's an Olympic hero. | ||
| How did they execute him? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Geez. | ||
| I don't know, but the UFC made a push. | ||
| Dana White put out a video begging the government to please not execute him. | ||
| It's an authoritarian theocracy, you know? | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| There's no social freedoms. | ||
| The idea of freedom of speech is... | ||
| Totally far in there. | ||
| Well, it's, as you said, a theocracy. | ||
| I talked about it with Glenn Greenwald, too, that they have an extraordinary high number of transgender women. | ||
| Because they don't allow gay people. | ||
| They don't allow gay people. | ||
| Yeah, so if you're a man and you're attracted to men, you have to become a woman. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is crazy that they're okay with that. | ||
| In a weird way, kind of very progressive. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Like an incredibly progressive state? | ||
| Skip the gay thing and go right to the trance thing. | ||
| It's progressive and homophobic at the same time. | ||
| In a super weird way. | ||
| We're dealing in 2020 and people getting beheaded in France for showing cartoons. | ||
| It's happening all over again. | ||
| I was actually just talking about this earlier that, you know, one of our top allies, Saudi Arabia, they still behead people in the public square. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And they do it for drug smuggling. | ||
| They do it for apostasy. | ||
| All these crimes that are not even really crimes and they'll kill you. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's the thing that people, when people are not afraid of dictatorships or of the government running wild in America, I always try to tell them, like, North Korea is happening right now. | ||
| Those are human beings. | ||
| Those are human beings that went down a path. | ||
| Is it likely that we'll go down that same path? | ||
| No. | ||
| But human beings have been going down those paths from the beginning of language. | ||
| From the beginning of time. | ||
| The strong man is a big, you know, the idea of a strong man, the dictator, the person. | ||
| I call all the shots. | ||
| That's why everybody's terrified of Trump. | ||
| That's why a lot of intellectuals were terrified of Trump. | ||
| They didn't like that language. | ||
| They didn't like what people were attracted to about him because they knew where that led. | ||
| It was a phrase that he said once where he was talking about, I wish I was a dictator. | ||
| It would be a lot easier. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| I don't remember that, no. | ||
| I feel like I would remember that quote. | ||
| That's what I remember. | ||
| He did something like that. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| He's like, if I was a dictator, this job would be easier. | ||
| I think someone was calling him a dictator, and he's like, I wish I was a dictator. | ||
| But that's him lamenting the paperwork that he has to go through. | ||
| Lamenting the paperwork. | ||
| And the meetings. | ||
| The thing that drove me crazy is that you had under Bush and you had under Obama. | ||
| Basically the expansion of the security state and you had like the Patriot Act, NSA spying, all these tools that are authoritarian tools that the government can use and Trump correctly when he ran spoke about ending the wars and but then he gets in power and the wars continue and then he gets in power he didn't dismant- he talks all the time about how the Obama campaign was spying on me and I'm watching it like if only you were in a position of power to do something about that like disband the NSA! Stop the NSA spying! | ||
| That's a good way to get shot. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good way to get you in a convertible. | ||
| Chuck Schumer made that point too when he was on MSNBC. He had a moment of honesty where he was like, you don't mess with the guys in the intelligence agencies because they've got a thousand ways to Sunday to get back at you. | ||
| Yeah, well that was one of the things that he said to Trump. | ||
| Glenn Greenwald brought that up on the podcast as well. | ||
| Well, also, it doesn't seem like Biden is more of a war hawk, though, in a weird way, and Kamal is more of a war hawk. | ||
| It's about Russia. | ||
| They're talking about Trump's too friendly with North Korea. | ||
| He's too friendly with Russia. | ||
| Yes, on those issues, absolutely. | ||
| It's kind of weird. | ||
| I'm like, shouldn't we be friendly with these nuclear powers that could... | ||
| But isn't that just to court the people on the right that maybe... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Listen, Biden was part of the Obama administration. | ||
| We don't have to guess. | ||
| They continued the wars. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And so I think Biden will continue the wars. | ||
| And to your point, yes, there are specific issues, like Russia. | ||
| Where what the Democrats say happens to be more hawkish. | ||
| It's more bellicose than what the Republicans say. | ||
| But the thing that drives me crazy is that whenever any of them get in power, none of them just end the wars. | ||
| None of them get out of Iraq. | ||
| None of them get out of Afghanistan. | ||
| Every now and then Trump will fire off a tweet where he's like, you know, we're getting out! | ||
| And then one of the generals behind the scenes is like, no we're not. | ||
| And he's like, you're right, we're not. | ||
| I was wrong about that. | ||
| Can we afford to get out of the wars? | ||
| This is an ugly question. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Can we afford to stop the wars now? | |
| A Ford? | ||
| Yeah, isn't it a moneymaker? | ||
| Isn't that why we're there? | ||
| Well, a military industrial complex, sure. | ||
| There are a lot of people that make a lot of money from it. | ||
| It's a tough economy. | ||
| Maybe we stopped the wars in a couple of years. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And actually, one time on CNN, Wolf Blitzer actually said that to Rand Paul. | ||
| When Rand Paul made that argument, he was like, we should not be giving weapons to Saudi Arabia. | ||
| And Wolf Blitzer's response was, yeah, but what about the jobs? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Did anybody say that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's like, I mean, listen, I know you don't want, like, babies to be bombed in Yemen by Saudi Arabia, but then again, Raytheon needs to make some money. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| It's such a dirty game. | ||
| I ran into him in a hotel in Vegas. | ||
| Does he exist as an actual person? | ||
| He's a human. | ||
| He's a robot, right? | ||
| He was coming out of the elevator and I was coming towards him and he looked at me and I looked at him and I wanted to go Hey, man, can I ask you some questions? | ||
| Just a few fucking minutes. | ||
| And then I didn't I said hey, what's up? | ||
| I just got in the elevator and I'm like you should have fucking talked to him He's what I alluded to before which is the reason why he's on CNN for 47 hours a day is because that guy's not gonna rock the boat. | ||
| Oh That guy's going to ask the questions that the people in power want him to ask. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what's weird about the system, right? | ||
| What's weird about the system when you see people like Chris Cuomo talking to his brother, and you know he's never going to bring up the nursing home thing. | ||
| And he was on CNN like every week! | ||
| Yeah, you got this one chance to talk. | ||
| I mean, you've got a real issue. | ||
| You've got a real issue. | ||
| Beyond, as serious as it gets, life and death issue, and he's directly in charge of it. | ||
| He could fix it, and his brother's throwing softballs talking about, you know... | ||
| Hey, remember we had meatballs the other week with the family? | ||
| Fucking guy, don't call me Fredo. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they're disgusting people. | ||
| Well, you know the fake weight controversy? | ||
| I've been involved in the fake weight controversy. | ||
| Fake weight controversy? | ||
| Fake weight. | ||
| Oh, fake weight? | ||
| Because I bought into it. | ||
| I was like, maybe he's just really strong. | ||
| I thought he was bigger than he was, and I didn't realize how hard it is to lift a 100-pound dumbbell, which sounds ridiculous because I work out, but I don't do those kind of workouts. | ||
| I'm like, maybe he's just really strong. | ||
| And everybody was like, you're out of your fucking mind. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| Are you a moron? | ||
| People were analyzing that like Building 7. They were like free They're right though. | ||
| I talked to Robert Oberst and Rob Kearney who are real... | ||
| These guys are real strong men. | ||
| Rob Kearney is one of the strongest... | ||
| Strongest man pound for pound in his weight class. | ||
| And then Robert Oberst is a legitimate giant. | ||
| He's like 300 plus pounds. | ||
| He would have to be one of the strongest men I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| I fill in the gaps here. | ||
| Chris Cuomo is releasing videos of himself working out. | ||
| No, worse. | ||
| Sitting at a desk with a dumbbell that says 100 pounds on it, where these experts are saying there's no way it could be 100 pounds. | ||
| Dude, you're a news guy. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Nobody wants to see you do that. | ||
| But there's a lot of weirdness, too, right? | ||
| How come they never brought up those tapes, the Michael Cohen tapes that Tucker Carlson was playing over and over and over again, where he's preparing Michael Cohen for the questions that he's going to ask him on CNN? Who was preparing Michael Cohen? | ||
| Chris Cuomo was. | ||
| You never saw that? | ||
| No, no, no, I never saw that. | ||
| No, because you're a fucking full-on lefty. | ||
| First of all, it's funny that you think I sit around and watch CNN and MSNBC all day. | ||
| Are you fucking kidding me? | ||
| I'd never waste my life. | ||
| Fox spent day after day... | ||
| Like going over these tapes because I don't know how they got the tapes. | ||
| It's never been clear. | ||
| Yeah, but it's Chris Cuomo It's like I think Michael Cohen probably bugged his room and taped all of his conversations and probably gave it to Tucker Carlson Like maybe he's making some sort of behind-the-scenes deals because Cohen is you know, he's been known to be a guy who he's Trump's fixer He's a fixer. | ||
| He does sleazy shit. | ||
| And his thing with this was they were preparing him for the questions. | ||
| Chris Cuomo was telling him how to answer the questions when it came to the payoff money for Stormy Daniels and all that stuff. | ||
| Which, by the way, you know, I really think that that's a perfect example of a kind of politics that simply doesn't work anymore. | ||
| Back in like 1987, you want to have a story about like, oh, the president fucked a porn star or whatever. | ||
| People would be all over it and they'd be like, oh my god, this is ending him. | ||
| Depends on the president. | ||
| It depends on the president, but really what Trump shows is that all it takes to override scandals like that, I'm not saying all scandals, I'm saying scandals like that, is you puff your chest out and you say... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wrong. | |
| Wrong. | ||
| I don't want to do any of this. | ||
| We're going to talk about something else now. | ||
| And eventually people go, alright, I think we're going to talk about something else now. | ||
| Everybody knows he fucked girls. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, this is not confusing. | ||
| He ran the Miss Universe pageant. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| He's a famous billionaire who's had multiple wives. | ||
| And, you know, he's that fucking guy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Mover shaker guy. | ||
| But the best example of this is, remember when they released the Access Hollywood tape? | ||
| And, you know, he was caught on tape saying, I grabbed him by the pussy, I don't even wait. | ||
| And then the media, I don't know if you remember the media reaction to that, but they were all convinced, like, that's it. | ||
| The race is over. | ||
| He's going to drop out. | ||
| Pence is going to take over, and it's going to be Pence versus Hillary Clinton. | ||
| And his response to that, I think, showed this new era of politics, which is actually brilliant. | ||
| You always go on the offense. | ||
| So what he did is, at the next debate, he brought all of Bill Clinton's accusers. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| And he had like six of them sitting there. | ||
| And then when they asked him that question, which by the way, of course, was like the first question they asked him. | ||
| He was like, listen, I'm not proud of what I said, but what I said was just words. | ||
| It was just words. | ||
| What Bill did was actions. | ||
| What he did was actions. | ||
| And they're all right there. | ||
| Bill, I think you should apologize to these people right here. | ||
| And what you do is you flip it and you go on the offense. | ||
| And then the best defense is a good offense. | ||
| And then he made it a wash. | ||
| The issue was now a wash. | ||
| Also, in his case, that is a really good argument. | ||
| Of course it's a good argument. | ||
| It's not like a regular person. | ||
| He's talking about Bill Clinton, who's married to Hillary Clinton, who was his opponent, so her calling him a sexual predator is rich. | ||
| I mean, that's rich. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's right. | |
| And also, let's be serious, it just diverts from... | ||
| What we're really supposed to be talking about when we're discussing the most powerful person in the world. | ||
| Tell me what you're going to do with the economy. | ||
| Tell me what you're going to do with taxes. | ||
| Tell me what you're going to do with infrastructure. | ||
| Tell me what you're going to do with foreign policy. | ||
| And if we're not having that conversation, I do think most Americans, there's something in them where they're just like, this is not serious. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| You say that he should have ended these wars. | ||
| He should have disbanded the NSA. I wouldn't go that far. | ||
| Just stop dispying. | ||
| I don't even think it's possible. | ||
| First of all, I don't think the president has that kind of power. | ||
| I'm ignorant. | ||
| Technically he does. | ||
| Technically he can because that's an executive agency and he controls the executive agencies. | ||
| So he could literally disband the NSA? He could do whatever he wants with any of the executive agencies. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| Well, that gets back to what we were saying before, the Schumer point of like, no, they are going to fuck with you. | ||
| And we've seen that. | ||
| But don't you think there's, I mean, for sure, some shady things have been done. | ||
| But don't you think there's some benefit to having a really powerful agency like the NSA that understands how to spy on bad people and make sure that they don't get away with shit? | ||
| Only if you have due process. | ||
| Only if you follow the Constitution and have due process. | ||
| But how can you do that and still spy on people without warrants? | ||
| You gotta show evidence. | ||
| You gotta show evidence to a judge. | ||
| A judge will approve it, and then you can spy. | ||
| But the judge has a big mouth. | ||
| But the way it works now, you know, FISA courts, it's just a rubber stamp where they say, oh, we want to spy on this person. | ||
| They don't even look. | ||
| Ah, whatever. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| You should go spy on them. | ||
| And that's where we are where we are now, where the NSA could take everybody's metadata, everybody's information, and they could spy on you nonstop. | ||
| So, you know, if you do it and you follow the Constitution and you follow the law and you have, you know, a reason and you follow due process, well then everybody's okay with it because that's just called regular police work. | ||
| Kennedy wanted to disband the NSA, right? | ||
| And now he's dead. | ||
| No, CIA. It was CIA. Was it just the CIA? I think he was going after the CIA. He wanted to give a lot of the peacetime military intelligence gathering capabilities to the Pentagon, to the military, and kind of get rid of the CIA's 24-7 unaccountable war machine. | ||
| And look at what happened. | ||
| There's probably a lot of reasons why he was shot. | ||
| I mean, there's probably multiple... | ||
| Maybe Marilyn Manson was pissed and hired a hitman or something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not Marilyn Manson. | ||
| Marilyn Monroe. | ||
| He had angered everything. | ||
| New conspiracy. | ||
| Marilyn Manson is fucking JFK. It says something nice about our country that the deep state hasn't tried to kill Trump. | ||
| I think that's like a nice thing. | ||
| It says something nice. | ||
| He's keeping the wars going, right? | ||
| He's keeping the wars going. | ||
| Sure, but I also think maybe they're getting a little softer, a little bit more. | ||
| More progressive. | ||
| They're more progressive. | ||
| Whatever it is, but I think it's nice because they were killing everyone. | ||
| Remember Bobby Kennedy, JFK, MLK? It was a period. | ||
| It was just spraying bullets at everybody, and now it's kind of a light touch. | ||
| We'll say he's a Soviet agent. | ||
| Did you read that book that I told you about, Chaos, that Tom O'Neill book? | ||
| I read a few chapters of it. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It gets into Bobby Kennedy at the end. | ||
| Like that Jolly West guy, the CIA guy. | ||
| That guy was involved with Jack Ruby. | ||
| That guy was involved with Sirhan Sirhan. | ||
| He was involved with... | ||
| You should hear Robert Kennedy talk about it on the Mike Tyson podcast. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They have a record of all eight bullets that got fired out of that gun and they weren't fired at... | ||
| Robert, I believe, is the way he... | ||
| That whole era was just a lie. | ||
| Like, that whole era was just... | ||
| A lot of lying. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of lying. | ||
| A lot of fibs. | ||
| A lot of fibs. | ||
| You know, but eventually Vietnam ended, and we're still in Iraq, we're still in Afghanistan. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Vietnam, we talk about it like it was such a long war. | ||
| It wasn't shit compared to Afghanistan. | ||
| Afghanistan, 2001, we started it. | ||
| 19 years. | ||
| Who is still in Afghanistan? | ||
| We still have about, I want to say about 5,000 or 6,000 troops there. | ||
| Wow, okay. | ||
| Because I have friends that have done like three tours there and now they're back. | ||
| Like people have gone three or four tours, entire, you know, chunks of their life in that war. | ||
| People forget it's even happening. | ||
| I covered a story on my show. | ||
| There was a father and a son. | ||
| There was an article in some military outlet where the dad is talking about how now my son is going to the same war that I fought in. | ||
| And, you know, I pulled up a cartoon that was drawn in like 07 or something where somebody made that joke. | ||
| Joking around like, yeah, haha, father and son going to the same war. | ||
| Then it happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's really disturbing. | ||
| If you're into it, maybe they like it. | ||
| I mean, certain families want to be... | ||
| Some people just want to go to war. | ||
| I have friends that are in the military because they like to kill, and they need to go kill somewhere. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Well, don't you think they think they're doing it for a good reason? | ||
| No. | ||
| Not the people from Long Island that I know. | ||
| No. | ||
| The people from Long Island and Boston that I know. | ||
| No, they just... | ||
| Anything's a good reason for them, you know? | ||
| But we gotta have a thing for people, right? | ||
| And you know more about violence than anybody. | ||
| There's gotta be something where violent people can go and be productive. | ||
| They need an outlet. | ||
| They need an outlet. | ||
| I've had conversations with people about violence where they're like... | ||
| You know, like, violence has no place in our society. | ||
| And they think that the UFC is bad for our society. | ||
| I'm like, those are some of the... | ||
| I've seen so few brawls at UFCs, it's amazing. | ||
| I've been to hundreds of those things. | ||
| I don't know how many times I've ever seen a fight. | ||
| Like, maybe three, four times, ever. | ||
| And those are drunks. | ||
| But something like that's a good outlet for the kind of instincts that you're talking about. | ||
| Gets it out of people's system. | ||
| I don't give a fuck if you want to voluntarily have a duel like it's the Old West. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Go out there and walk ten paces and turn around and shoot. | ||
| We've had presidents that have done that. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We've had presidents that had jewels while they were in office. | ||
| Yeah, Burr and Hamilton, right? | ||
| Crazy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I think so. | |
| Let me look that one up for you. | ||
| I'm pretty sure it is, though. | ||
| I believe it's them. | ||
| What's really crazy is how recent that was. | ||
| That was pretty... | ||
| It was... | ||
| Not that long ago when people are shitting in outhouses and wearing powered weights. | ||
| Trump and Biden are talking about beating each other up. | ||
| We could see it going back to that. | ||
| How long would that last? | ||
| 12 seconds? | ||
| It would be amazing. | ||
| They both gas out. | ||
| The Burr-Hamilton duel. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh, so the vice president? | ||
| What? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Early in the morning of July 11th, 1804. Wow. | ||
| That's like Mike Pence and Steve Mnuchin dueling today. | ||
| The culmination of a long and bitter rivalry between the two men. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Burr shot Hamilton while Hamilton's shot broke a tree branch above and beyond Burr's head. | ||
| Hamilton was carried to the home of William Bayard Jr. Hamilton died at 2 o'clock the final afternoon. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| That's heavy. | ||
| That was back before you had people doing it, before you had the agencies and the underground people. | ||
| It was just muskets. | ||
| Yeah, just muskets and just dudes being dudes. | ||
| If they want to do it, isn't that the ultimate, like, you know, libertarian argument? | ||
| Like, go ahead. | ||
| Stop fucking bothering me. | ||
| I believe there's places in America, I think Arizona might be one of them, where you can still engage in a duel. | ||
| Because I believe I've read a story about a cop who had a duel with a guy who was fucking his wife. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A duel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| AKA shot him back in the head or something. | ||
| That was why it was controversial. | ||
| But I think they had, you know, you know, like some places have mutual combat laws, like Seattle has a mutual combat law where the cops will stand by. | ||
| Like if two guys want to fight. | ||
| Oh, is that what like the Proud Boys in Antifa, when they go at it in Seattle, the cops don't do anything? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's kind of interesting. | ||
| I think they're just overwhelmed. | ||
| I get it, yeah. | ||
| But I think in Seattle in particular, I know. | ||
| Two people want to fight, you can stand by. | ||
| Yeah, there was a guy named Phoenix Jones. | ||
| He was a fucking, forget his name, but he called himself Phoenix Jones, but he was an actual MMA fighter. | ||
| Who would go around and his brother was a fairly successful MMA fighter and he would go around wearing a superhero costume and yeah and literally fight crime like if you would see people doing things you stop people and there's a video of him with his superhero costume beating the shit out of somebody Because some guy decided to fight with him and the cops were literally standing there while this one guy's bouncing on the tips of his toes, | ||
| on the balls of his feet rather, moving, leg kicks the guy, leg kicks the guy again and you're like, oh my god, like this poor bastard. | ||
| Some poor drunk is just getting lit up by a guy who's a trained MMA fighter with a superhero costume on. | ||
| At what point do they step in? | ||
| I mean, they'd have to step in at a certain point. | ||
| He's about to beat them to death, probably. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the problem is, on the concrete, any punch could result in your death. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| Because if you fall and bounce your head off the thing, you could easily die. | ||
| Could be over. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| By the way, I almost did that today. | ||
| You almost fell? | ||
| I did fall, but I almost hit my head. | ||
| I'm lucky I didn't. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| I was on one of those stupid Uber scooter things. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yeah, it was bad. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And then as I was falling, I was like, I'm fucking 32 years old. | ||
| What am I even doing here? | ||
| Well, not only that, you're about to do the most important podcast of your life. | ||
| This is when Trump wins his re-election. | ||
| People would have enjoyed it if they saw Giant Scars. | ||
| I actually got one here. | ||
| Kyle was telling me how Trump's not going to win, and it sounded kind of persuasive. | ||
| Okay, give me the rundown. | ||
| Right, because it's not me. | ||
| I'm just relaying the information. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I do, but I hate Biden, too. | ||
| Jamie, I DM'd you this if you want to pull it up, but the first thing here is this is basically every single presidential election and where the polls were going into that day. | ||
| And basically, the Hillary Clinton-Donald Trump election was the only election where somebody had a four-point lead, as Hillary had, and then she lost the Electoral College. | ||
| She won the popular vote, but she lost the Electoral College. | ||
| Isn't that the case with Gore as well? | ||
| With Gore, well, Bush was up versus Gore 3.6 percentage points nationally. | ||
| But didn't Gore win the popular vote? | ||
| He did end up winning it by a razor-thin margin, but the point is the polling going into that day was Bush up 3.6. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| 2020, Biden up 8.6. | ||
| Wow, that's high. | ||
| And then Clinton, 3.9. | ||
| Obama, 0.3 in 2012. Obama, 6.7. | ||
| What? | ||
| 2012, he was only up 0.3? | ||
| He ended up winning the Electoral College with, I want to say, about 330 electoral votes. | ||
| But yeah, he was up. | ||
| Nationally, he was only up 0.3. | ||
| Why was he so low? | ||
| That was against Mitt Romney? | ||
| That was against Mitt Romney, yeah. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I thought he cruised through that. | ||
| Well, he did in terms of the Electoral College numbers, but nationally, it was a very even race, which is why they treated it as such throughout the election. | ||
| But that's the polling. | ||
| Right, that's the national polling, which... | ||
| But that's so low! | ||
| Yeah, that one is a little bit surprising. | ||
| I would have guessed he would have had a five-point lead or something like that. | ||
| But anyway, as you can see here, like, we have to go back to what? | ||
| Clinton in 96, when he absolutely landslided, I think it was Dole in 96, and you gotta go back to Reagan in 1984, plus 17.7, and I guess H.W. Bush as well, plus 10.1. | ||
| Like, basically... | ||
| Yes, the national number is not the most important because the Electoral College is what matters. | ||
| But Biden has never been down in the national number at any point throughout the race. | ||
| And then when you go to the swing states, Trump's path is just so razor thin where he can't have anything go wrong for him. | ||
| So he needs to win Florida. | ||
| He has to win Florida or he's done. | ||
| If he loses Florida, it's over tonight. | ||
| Isn't Florida filled with old people, though? | ||
| Yes, but Biden now is winning with old people. | ||
| I was in Florida, and I'm telling you right now, they love Trump in Florida. | ||
| There's a lot of signs, there's a lot of enthusiasm. | ||
| And it is a legit swing state. | ||
| I think the average is Biden's only up like two points there for the race, but it is a genuine swing state. | ||
| But he's winning now with old people, Biden is. | ||
| He's winning with that demographic. | ||
| Because of the way Trump handled COVID? Probably because of COVID, that's right. | ||
| So they're scared. | ||
| I don't know what their reasoning is, but I just know that that's what the numbers are showing right now. | ||
| What could have been done differently for COVID? Well, we've actually talked about this quite a bit. | ||
| Listen, I'm not a doctor. | ||
| I'm not an expert. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I'm just an idiot. | |
| I'll go get my medical degree. | ||
| You got our food? | ||
| Do you want to bring it in here? | ||
| Yeah, motherfucker. | ||
| I see you over there eating. | ||
| You're out of your mind. | ||
| I saw you pull those bags. | ||
| We ordered McDonald's in tribute to Donald Trump. | ||
| This is his last election. | ||
| Honestly, this is in tribute to me because I eat McDonald's probably more than anybody on the planet. | ||
| Whether he wins or loses, he's done a lot of great things to unite the country. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| I mean, I think that we all have to remember that. | ||
| This is going to be quoted on someone's blog tomorrow. | ||
| The same people that called you a far-right conspiracy theorist. | ||
| I can't believe it. | ||
| Who called you that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The tech blog. | ||
| Yeah, people with pink hair. | ||
| People that are angry. | ||
| Yeah, the same people that were saying that we had an anti-vax message in the Alex Jones podcast. | ||
| Listen, you guys were really trying to fact-check everything. | ||
| That was pretty clear to me. | ||
| Well, not only that, the thing that he said was absolutely true. | ||
| The thing he said about the one vaccine that Bill Gates is promoting that has 80% of the people that took it got sick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But is he, I'm sure, is he against all vaccines? | ||
|
unidentified
|
No. | |
| No, he's not. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| The thing is, like, look, Alex Jones is fucked up, right? | ||
| He really fucked up with the Sandy Hook thing. | ||
| Really fucked up. | ||
| He's had some mental health issues. | ||
| He's had some substance issues, particularly with booze. | ||
| And he also is constantly around conspiracies. | ||
| And I think you get legitimately psychotic when you delve down those roads. | ||
| I think you lose your fucking mind. | ||
| It's a tough... | ||
| And he lost his fucking mind. | ||
| He lost his fucking mind on more than one occasion. | ||
| He has. | ||
| And he knows he's made mistakes. | ||
| Is your mic on? | ||
| Jamie, I think your mic's on. | ||
| It's very loud over there. | ||
| He knows he's made mistakes. | ||
| He said on the show that he wants to correct his mistakes. | ||
| But the thing is, he also gives out a lot of real information. | ||
| I had three. | ||
|
unidentified
|
13? | |
| Yeah, is there a third one in there? | ||
| What'd you get? | ||
| I didn't get anything. | ||
| You didn't get anything? | ||
| I had nachos right before I came in here. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| I thought this was for you. | ||
| No, it was for you. | ||
| Yeah, two Filet-O-Fish for me. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Thank you. | |
| It's the first time in my life I've ever passed on McDonald's for the record. | ||
| Outrageous. | ||
| You got a Filet-O-Fish? | ||
| Three of them. | ||
| Yeah, they're great. | ||
| You're the only person who gets the Filet-O-Fish. | ||
| They're massively popular. | ||
| I've never seen anybody eat one. | ||
| First of all, black people love them. | ||
| They call them the McFish. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It's not racist. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| I've heard a lot of black people say, can I have a McFish? | ||
| I think it's great. | ||
| It seems racist, but I don't think it is. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It is. | |
| It's right on the edge. | ||
| It's right on the edge. | ||
| That might be the last thing on the menu I would get, is a Filet-O-Fish. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| They're very good. | ||
| They're so good. | ||
| You want one? | ||
|
unidentified
|
I have three. | |
| They steam the bun. | ||
| No, I prefer chicken or beef, like a real man. | ||
| Okay, well, I apologize. | ||
| The McDonald's Steakhouse. | ||
| So you're saying that if everything's equal, and Trump wins everything he won in 2016, he still has a very narrow path to victory. | ||
| No, so the point that I was making, and I'll explain it for people who didn't get the gist of it, but basically, if you take the polls in 2016 and do the same sort of pro-Trump swing that happened on Election Day... | ||
| They've done that. | ||
| And when you calculate those numbers, it's still Biden with 335 electoral votes. | ||
| So even if you have that same pro-Trump swing, it's still Biden winning by a fairly safe margin. | ||
| Now, to get to your point about does he have a path? | ||
| Yes, Trump has a path for sure, but it's basically one path and he can't afford any mess ups along the way. | ||
| So he has to win. | ||
| He has to win Florida. | ||
| He has to win Pennsylvania. | ||
| He has to win Arizona. | ||
| He has to win Ohio. | ||
| Ohio and Iowa are the only two swing states where he's actually up in the average of the polling. | ||
| All the other ones, he's down. | ||
| And there's also another crazy thing going on, and I struggle to believe this as well. | ||
| I think Trump is probably going to win Texas, but the polling right there now is they're actually dead-tied. | ||
| Biden and Trump are dead-tied in Texas. | ||
| That is the craziest thing. | ||
| Doesn't that skew bias towards Democrats because they're traditionally voting earlier by mail? | ||
| Yeah, so that was another point that I was going to get to. | ||
| When the votes roll in, everybody's going to freak out at every single thing that they see. | ||
| But there are some states that count the mail-ins first. | ||
| And when they count the mail-ins first, it's going to look like Biden's winning in a landslide. | ||
| And then there's other states that do the opposite, which is they count the on-the-day... | ||
| Votes first. | ||
| And the states that do that, it's going to look like Trump is winning in a landslide. | ||
| So basically, everybody has to relax until you actually get, you know, to a very high percentage of the votes counted before you really know what's going on, because there's going to be big swings throughout the night in virtually every state. | ||
| But I actually have the specific states if you're interested in knowing which states are going to swing like that. | ||
| Well, let's find out where we're at right now. | ||
| Is there anything, Jamie, that shows us where we're at right now? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Florida looks like Trump. | ||
| Alabama, Trump. | ||
| Mississippi, Trump. | ||
| It's Trump. | ||
| Trump won. | ||
| Trump is the president. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| He won again. | ||
| Texas is blue. | ||
| Again, that's because they're counting the mail-ins first and the mail-ins are heavily Biden. | ||
| See, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's a little misleading to watch it second by second because it's going to be skewed based on which votes they're counting. | ||
| You see what I'm saying? | ||
| What's the chance we don't have an answer tonight? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Probably 50 or 60% chance we don't have an answer tonight. | ||
| What's the chance that people handle that maturely and don't burn things down and throw bricks through windows? | ||
| Negative 14,000%. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| Look, so far it's 85-55. | ||
| Joe Biden's winning. | ||
| So, there's a few surprises up there, by the way. | ||
| Obviously, Texas is a surprise, but even Ohio. | ||
| Trump was up in Ohio in the average of polls, and that's looking blue. | ||
| But again, I don't want to get ahead of myself, because I just told you guys, don't pay attention until the number gets up a lot more. | ||
| Yeah, 60-40. | ||
| No, see, that's going to swing back to Trump, though, as time goes by, because there's no way Ohio's going to finish on that number. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Not a chance in hell. | ||
| Only 32% reporting. | ||
| That means they're counting the mail-ins. | ||
| That's what that tells me. | ||
| And all the other states are just in play? | ||
| So as time goes by, the polls close at different times, and so I can tell you the order that everything closes here. | ||
| We're supposed to get 7 o'clock, we had Vermont, Virginia, Georgia, South Carolina, Indiana, and Kentucky. | ||
| Georgia's the only one of those that's really a swing state. | ||
| 7.30, we have North Carolina, Ohio, and West Virginia. | ||
| North Carolina and Ohio are both swing states. | ||
| Then at 8 o'clock we get clonked over the head. | ||
| So we just got clonked over the head here. | ||
| We have Washington, D.C., Delaware, Maryland, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Illinois, New Jersey, Maine's 1st District, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Florida, Maine's 2nd District, Mississippi, Missouri, Tennessee, Alabama, Oklahoma. | ||
| Only one, two, three of those are swing states. | ||
| We really have Pennsylvania, Florida, and Maine's 2nd District. | ||
| And then 9 o'clock we get New York and a bunch of others as well. | ||
| I've never felt a time... | ||
| Where the country was more on edge during an election. | ||
| Because there's never been a time where it's been this bad. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| No way. | ||
| They came up with a thing. | ||
| They said there's like a political... | ||
| I forget what it is, but there's some indicator of political tension. | ||
| They said it's higher now than the Civil War. | ||
| I don't know about that one. | ||
| People are shooting each other in the face. | ||
| Well, they were very polite and genteel. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| And they wore powdered wigs. | ||
| That could happen with us, though. | ||
| You know, honestly, Joe, I think that we just have too many good distractions to ever be in a civil war. | ||
| Like, people might think, like, oh, let's go do it, and then they go, you know, Netflix has some new shit out, and I'd rather just watch that. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| We can fight, and there will be civil unrest like we've been seeing, but I don't think it would ever get to the point of a real civil war. | ||
| So what happened with that Kyle Rittenhouse kid? | ||
| The judge didn't press charges, but then they extradited him to Kenosha, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So what happened there? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I watched the tape and clearly he went to – him and his parents went to the protest, right, heavily armed, right, which is not – that's a choice that the family makes, right? | ||
| I mean that's a certain type of family that goes heavily armed to a protest. | ||
| We didn't do that when I was growing up. | ||
| And then it was a skirmish, but if you watch the video, and people got mad at me on Twitter because I said that, I think if you watch the video, you do see people chasing him. | ||
| And then he shoots them, which again, this was all good. | ||
| He's in court now, right? | ||
| Isn't he... | ||
| Bail for Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| But something happened where the judge said he wasn't going to prosecute him. | ||
| That's why I was confused. | ||
| I thought he was being released. | ||
| Because I had read another ruling where the judge wasn't going to press charges. | ||
| And a bunch of YouTube people are making these videos about it. | ||
| Like, Kyle Rittenhouse are going to free him, and then all of a sudden he's now got $2 million bail. | ||
| I saw on Twitter that somebody tweeted, it was a sign that said, Kyle's life matters. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Yeah, and I thought, that should be about me. | ||
| And not him. | ||
| It should be Kyle Dunnigan. | ||
| Keep up that Instagram page. | ||
| The thing is, he's not even supposed to be open carrying. | ||
| So him carrying a gun was illegal. | ||
| It was not good. | ||
| This is probably what you read. | ||
| What's that, Jamie? | ||
| This is probably what you read from the other day. | ||
| Well, that says he's extradited to face homicide charges. | ||
| Listen, the kid's got horrible parents. | ||
| It's probably a very bad family. | ||
| Not that this excuses the behavior. | ||
| I think the family drove him to the protest, right? | ||
| Jesus Christ, really? | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| Yeah, it's like the mom and the dad. | ||
| I mean, this is not a good group. | ||
| No, there was something else, Jamie. | ||
| This is not it. | ||
| There was something else where they were not pressing charges. | ||
| I guess somebody else did. | ||
| Yeah, probably Illinois was not pressing charges so that Wisconsin could. | ||
| But it was in Kenosha, right? | ||
| The actual shooting was in Kenosha, wasn't it? | ||
| Yeah, but he's from Illinois, I believe. | ||
| I think that sounds right. | ||
| I think that's what it was. | ||
| That Illinois wasn't going to charge him, but Kenosha did? | ||
| Yeah, he had been being held in Illinois. | ||
| He went home and got arrested. | ||
| Remember, they didn't arrest him right away. | ||
| Yeah, they took a trip to the protests. | ||
| So he's not from the area they were having the protests. | ||
| Which is even more weird. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| A lot of people are all about this, man. | ||
| A lot of people love this, you know... | ||
| Tactical life. | ||
| Yeah, kind of lifestyle where they're just kind of searching for stuff to do. | ||
| What do you attribute that to? | ||
| Like the rise in violence and the rise of people kind of... | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| What do you think it is? | ||
| No, I'm not playing. | ||
| I'm kidding. | ||
| I think, honestly, man, and some people might come after me for this, but I really believe that over the years, the evidence would show that when people feel like there's zero hope for a brighter future, and they're perpetually shit on by a system that doesn't give a fuck about them, that, yeah, usually you turn to more extreme ideologies across the political spectrum. | ||
| Right, it makes a lot of sense. | ||
| I mean, I wouldn't say that's... | ||
| You really think that that's why he showed up at that protest with a gun? | ||
| No, because I was just going to say, you have to look at everything on a case-by-case basis, and there are going to be many individual instances where somebody does something fucked up because of, say, mental illness, or somebody does something fucked up because they were brainwashed into some sort of fundamentalist cult from when they were a kid. | ||
| But I think the broader societal trends where... | ||
| These things kind of catch on and more and more people are willing to be involved in some sort of violence. | ||
| I think you have to have an unhealthy society in the first place to have that flourish. | ||
| You see what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, I do see what you're saying. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| I mean, listen... | ||
| This is probably the classic example, but you couldn't have had Hitler rise to power without the Treaty of Versailles, which fucked Germany after World War I. And so you had this whole generation of Germans who were like, we've been fucking shit on and left behind and, you know, what are we supposed to do? | ||
| We feel like there's no way out. | ||
| And then you have this charismatic guy come up and say, hey, it's not your fault. | ||
| Blame the Jews. | ||
| Well, yeah, it is them. | ||
| So, this is what happens. | ||
| I mean, and I really fear that stuff is gonna get worse in this country because the economic situation is just abysmal. | ||
| I mean, you talk about this all the time on your show, but when you shut down the economy, basically, because of the virus, you can't shut down the economy and then not give people a lifeline monetarily. | ||
| Because then they can't pay the fucking bills. | ||
| This isn't rocket science, you know? | ||
| And a lot of other countries, Joe, what they did is they did like this wage replacement thing where they temporarily nationalized wages. | ||
| So in other words, if the government told you, hey, you can't work because of COVID, they would then say, and that's why we're going to pay 75% of your wage until COVID is over. | ||
| Could they have done that in this country? | ||
| Oh, we absolutely could have done it. | ||
| We chose not to do it. | ||
| In fact, what we did is probably the worst of all worlds, which is we took trillions of dollars and threw them at the corporations and said, here, we're giving you a bailout. | ||
| And then the corporations turned around and fired people anyway. | ||
| Yeah, in the beginning of COVID, like Trump, they had like these press conferences and there would be like the CEO of Buffalo Wild Wings would come out. | ||
| They'd be like, let's bring out the CEO of Buffalo Wild Wings. | ||
| And the guy's like, hey, we're just committed to helping. | ||
| We're taking some of our napkins and making face masks. | ||
| It was just this crazy group of people that came out. | ||
| Like the guy who ran Red Lobster was like, we're also getting involved in the fight. | ||
| It was absurd. | ||
| It's always corporate. | ||
| It's always corporate. | ||
| It's like, listen, let's let Dave and Busters make ventilators and fix it. | ||
| The idea that they would give those people that money and not have a clause in there where you can't fire people is amazing. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And again, this also happened in the Wall Street bailout. | ||
| Back under Bush and under Obama. | ||
| They always do the same thing. | ||
| They bail them out and they have no strings attached and then what happens is these executives paid bonuses to the same people who crashed the company And, you know, there's no accountability. | ||
| Those people fail up all the time. | ||
| They fail up. | ||
| Oh, I bankrupted my company. | ||
| But it's okay. | ||
| The government gave me, you know, a billion dollars because Goldman Sachs basically owns the government. | ||
| You know, and that's how it works. | ||
| And it's incredibly corrupt. | ||
| And that's why when something bad happens and the people need a bailout, they never get a bailout. | ||
| What did people get? | ||
| A one-time $1,200 stimulus check. | ||
| Which is amazing. | ||
| And we thought at least it was going to come more frequently and never came again. | ||
| The idea that they gave me one check in eight months... | ||
| It's kind of insane. | ||
| People don't have money to stay afloat. | ||
| There are people that have been trying to get unemployment for like six months. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They can't even get unemployment because these fucking states... | ||
| I mean, it's crazy. | ||
| And all the protection for people getting evicted is soon going to expire. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And so we're about to, you know, I saw a tweet about this earlier from the guy at the Washington Post, one of the only good people at the Washington Post, and he was basically listing it, and he's like, here are the things that expire, you know, in the upcoming however many months. | ||
| And people are screwed, man. | ||
| They're screwed. | ||
| I don't know how they're going to pay bills. | ||
| We're already seeing polls where like 30% of people say, I can't make rent. | ||
| So what could they... | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, have those people tried hustling and grinding? | ||
| OnlyFans is seeing a big explosion. | ||
| I think Gary Vee would basically tell them that they should just invest in themselves. | ||
| Hashtag keep going. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| Just never give up. | ||
| You just never give up and just hustle and grind. | ||
| Hashtag hustle. | ||
| And just, you know... | ||
| Just do it. | ||
| So what country handles it well? | ||
| So the example that we've spoken about this before, but early on I liked what Japan did, because Japan did limited shutdowns. | ||
| They did some shutdowns, because some things, there's no escaping it. | ||
| It makes sense to shut them down just because of the nature of what they are, like bars, everybody's breathing on each other two feet away or whatever. | ||
| So he did limited shutdowns. | ||
| But basically the only thing they did is they had a universal mask policy. | ||
| And culturally it's viewed like you're the biggest asshole on the planet if you're not wearing a fucking mask in a place where you should be wearing a mask. | ||
| And then they only had a thousand COVID cases when we had like 80,000, 90,000, 100,000 and rising steadily. | ||
| So that's one way we could have done it. | ||
| Or the other way you could have done it is you could have copied any of the European nations that when they shut down, they did, hey, we'll pay you 75% of your wages until this thing is over. | ||
| What European... | ||
| France was one that did that, where they shut it down and paid people, I think it was 75% of their wages. | ||
| But I think the UK did that too for a little bit. | ||
| It may have been 80% of their wages. | ||
| But isn't this a thing where, unfortunately, a lot of those, you know, or fortunately, however you want to say it, a lot of those other countries They're more of a monolith, and it's easier. | ||
| There's not this idea of freedom and doing your own thing and owning your own business. | ||
| A lot of those countries are, by their nature, the populace is just more submissive. | ||
| There's definitely cultural differences, but I think that, especially in the case of France, The government is scared of the people because they're like, you better fucking do shit that's gonna help us or else why are you even in power? | ||
| Whereas here, I feel like we're more like, okay, just government, don't fuck this up too much. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, but again, there were multiple ways to address this. | ||
| And if you go the way Japan went, you could have kept a lot more stuff open and just had everybody wear masks. | ||
| But was anybody in government calling for more stimulus checks? | ||
| Was anybody in government calling for more relief? | ||
| Was anybody in government calling for, like, anybody on the left calling for these checks to be distributed? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Who was calling for this? | ||
| Bernie Sanders was calling for it. | ||
| The Squad, who's always made fun of, they were calling for it. | ||
| They happened to be right on this economic stuff. | ||
| Not only were people calling for it, Joe, I believe one of these things passed. | ||
| I think it's called the Heroes Act. | ||
| And there were provisions where they gave people more of a recurring stimulus check. | ||
| This wasn't a wage replacement, I should be clear. | ||
| We're not talking about nationalizing wages like they did over there. | ||
| But you can do a similar version of that by just doing a universal basic income. | ||
| You know, that's Andrew Yang's idea. | ||
| That's something that he's really popularized. | ||
| There's other ways to go about it. | ||
| Well, on the third night of quarantine, Nancy Pelosi was giving a tour of her house. | ||
| Listen, she's... | ||
| The worst. | ||
| And she was showing the different gelatos that she had in her freezer. | ||
| This is right after 30 million people were instantly made unemployed. | ||
| And Nancy Pelosi was like, get going. | ||
| We like the chocolate. | ||
| And then we like this. | ||
| And it was like the craziest thing I'd ever seen. | ||
| And that's the party that's supposed to care. | ||
| But she's done so many things like that. | ||
| Yeah, so many. | ||
| She lied about telling people, like when the pandemic was first starting, she's telling people, please go out, go to Chinatown. | ||
| People were acting like total idiots and they weren't listening to the real experts early on and everything was incredibly politicized. | ||
| But to answer your question, though, from before, Trump and Mnuchin were calling for it too, Joe. | ||
| They also wanted stimulus checks. | ||
| The people who didn't want stimulus checks? | ||
| Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell. | ||
| But Trump and Mnuchin, the Treasury Secretary, wanted stimulus checks because, listen, Trump knew, hey, you know, I'm kind of struggling in the polls here. | ||
| I want to throw a Hail Mary pass. | ||
| One of the ways to get people to like you, you know, three weeks before an election, cut him another stimulus check. | ||
| And he famously wanted his name on the checks. | ||
| He said, put my name on the check so that when people cash it, they know that it's for me, and then they're more likely to vote for me. | ||
| And what got in his way was Nancy Pelosi, who wouldn't accept any deal, even if it was a good deal, and Mitch McConnell, who, even if Nancy Pelosi accepted the stimulus deal, Mitch McConnell would have blocked it anyway. | ||
| So those are the real ghouls, because Trump wanted stimulus checks, Mnuchin wanted stimulus checks, to their credit. | ||
| Do they ever leave? | ||
| She's a hundred... | ||
| I mean, does she ever go away? | ||
| I know. | ||
|
unidentified
|
She's spooky. | |
| When she went to that fucking beauty salon and had no mask on and then was talking about it, they should apologize. | ||
| They set me up. | ||
| Like, you know, I've said this before. | ||
| I'll say it again. | ||
| I don't even have hair. | ||
| And I knew that beauty salons were closed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everyone knew. | ||
| You know, that lady is 150 years old. | ||
| She must get her hair dyed every 15 minutes. | ||
| The greatest story about her was there was a bird that got into her Georgetown townhouse and she had to chase this big bird out of her. | ||
| I mean, she's just a real... | ||
| But the fact that she went to a place that was shut down and she wasn't even wearing a mask. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, they're just hypocrites. | ||
| Yeah, they don't care. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They need new leadership. | ||
| You know who's been amazing? | ||
| Jimmy Dore. | ||
| Jimmy Dore is a fucking podcaster. | ||
| He's a good friend of mine. | ||
| I love Jimmy Dore. | ||
| He's calling everybody out. | ||
| Everybody on the left, everybody on the right. | ||
| That dude breathes fire. | ||
|
unidentified
|
He really does. | |
| He breathes fire. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| He goes hard. | ||
| He was doing this thing on Obama. | ||
| I forgot about this. | ||
| Where Obama went to Flint, Michigan and was drinking the water. | ||
| Was fake drinking. | ||
| He's like, can I get a sip of water? | ||
| Can I get a glass of water? | ||
| This is not a stunt. | ||
| I actually need a glass of water. | ||
| I'm actually thirsty. | ||
| Kids are getting poisoned as he's doing this. | ||
| Like this. | ||
| This is what he does. | ||
| He took a little poison. | ||
| That's kind of a fun bit, though. | ||
| This is not a stunt. | ||
| I mean, hey. | ||
| Can I get a glass of water? | ||
| We still don't have clean water in Flint, Michigan. | ||
| Why is that so hard to fix? | ||
| I think the reason why they didn't want to spend the extra money to get the proper pipes. | ||
| And so then when it got terrible and it was contaminated, they were like, whoopsie. | ||
| And then I don't know how at this late date they haven't fixed it yet. | ||
| That strikes me as absolutely absurd. | ||
| That was the Obama administration. | ||
| Happened under Obama. | ||
| Trump administration. | ||
| It hasn't been repaired. | ||
| Obama didn't do anything serious. | ||
| Trump didn't do anything serious. | ||
| That's people's lives. | ||
| Those are kids' lives, man. | ||
| Well, no, that is long-term repercussions, right? | ||
| So we're talking about people now, who knows what it's like 15 years from now, 20 years from now, growing up without water. | ||
| And listen, people... | ||
| This is the stuff that actually matters to people. | ||
| If you really... | ||
| If you want to be successful running for political office, it's not that difficult. | ||
| It's the bread and butter issues. | ||
| It's the basics. | ||
| Wages. | ||
| Jobs. | ||
| You know, I don't want your water to be poisoned. | ||
| What stops them from fixing these things? | ||
| A lot of it's corruption. | ||
| A lot of it's the fact that these politicians take money from corporations and billionaires, and then they turn around and they serve them, and they don't do anything that their constituents want. | ||
| Because as a general rule, whatever the people want is opposed by the billionaire class. | ||
| The billionaire class just wants more tax cuts for themselves. | ||
| Regular people, if you look at the polls, they want a living wage, for example. | ||
| They want to end the wars. | ||
| They want to do an infrastructure deal and give people jobs. | ||
| The things are very basic. | ||
| And actually, this gets back to what we were talking about earlier, because... | ||
| Trump in 2016, he never got credit for running a superb campaign, because he really did. | ||
| When Hillary Clinton was not stepping foot in the Rust Belt to campaign, he was doing rallies there in the final weeks leading up to the election, where he would non-stop hammer on jobs, and he would say, you know, Hillary and Bill, they outsourced your job with NAFTA, they outsourced your job with Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China, I'm gonna bring your job back. | ||
| I'm the outsider. | ||
| She's the insider. | ||
| They sent your kids to go die in a war. | ||
| I want to get us out of the war. | ||
| And he just kept hammering her and hammering her and hammering her. | ||
| And the reason he won is because those states are the states that he picked off to win the Electoral College. | ||
| He won by something from like 70,000 to 110,000 votes. | ||
| And in fact, I kind of want to show you this ad because it shows it perfectly. | ||
| Trump's closing ad in 2016. That's actually what it's called on YouTube, Jamie, if you want to pull that up. | ||
| Trump's closing argument ad or something like that. | ||
| The ad is phenomenal. | ||
| It's policy-based, it's substance-based, and he portrays himself as the outsider. | ||
| And then comparing how good his campaign was in 2016 versus how shitty it is this time around, I'm not surprised that Joe Biden, who barely has a functioning brain, is casually up by nine points, eight points, nine points, whatever it is. | ||
| But wouldn't you agree that it's not that Joe Biden's run a good campaign? | ||
| It's that people hate Trump. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| But they didn't hate Trump 2016. Trump 2016 was a good politician. | ||
| The best thing that Biden did in this cycle is not really go out to deal with the public. | ||
| Hide. | ||
| Well, every time he did, he fucked up 50% of the time. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So if there's anything that they did good, it's keeping him away from the people. | ||
| Do you think, though, that if COVID didn't happen where the economy was before COVID... Trump was much more likely to win. | ||
| No, he was winning 100%. | ||
| Much more likely to win. | ||
| I mean, dude, without COVID, Trump is... | ||
| I mean, he wins. | ||
| Do you buy the argument that Trump... | ||
| Is responsible for the economy's big boom, or do you think that he was riding off the wave of Obama, or do you think it's a combination of both things? | ||
| See, that's interesting, because I actually don't agree with either one of those. | ||
| I think the economy was always a house of cards. | ||
| I don't buy it when people say, oh, we have a low unemployment rate and the stock market is doing well, so people are doing well. | ||
| No, even before COVID, 78% of the country was living paycheck to paycheck. | ||
| Like, it's a house of cards. | ||
| They use these indicators, which are not good economic indicators for regular people. | ||
| They're good economic indicators for the top 10% that have fucking stocks. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And, by the way, it's the gig economy, right? | ||
| It's not that people were necessarily unemployed, but people were underemployed. | ||
| They would have these fucking degrees from colleges, and then they'd have to go take a job where they're basically making minimum wage. | ||
| Working as an independent contractor, not an employee. | ||
| So, like, the economy was always a house of cards, and I never bought the argument. | ||
| And by the way, not a hypocrite on this, because when Obama was acting like his economy was good, I was like, your economy's fucking shit. | ||
| It's got the same problem as it was under Trump. | ||
| These are not good economic indicators. | ||
| I care about wages, for example. | ||
| Rates of unionization usually go right along with the health of the middle class. | ||
| Back when we had strong unions in this country, we had one of the healthiest middle classes in the world. | ||
| What killed that off? | ||
| NAFTA? No, NAFTA had a lot to do with the outsourcing of jobs. | ||
| Actually, permanent normal trade relations with China was worse on that front. | ||
| There was more outsourced under that than under NAFTA. But we did lose a lot of jobs in the auto industry. | ||
| We lost a lot of jobs. | ||
| A lot of jobs were outsourced. | ||
| Again, that was because of corruption. | ||
| That's because the people who were the executives at these companies, they pay the politicians to run their campaigns, and then they would go to the politicians and say, hey, I financed your last campaign. | ||
| I need you to do me a favor. | ||
| I want to make my product a lot cheaper, so I'd like to ship it to some Chinese factory where we have a 14-year-old working for me, as opposed to paying an American worker a living wage with good benefits. | ||
| So it all comes down to money. | ||
| It all comes down to, you know, corruption. | ||
| That really does show what hypocrites we are. | ||
| Because all these people who are progressive, they all have iPhones in their pockets. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| We're all hypocrites. | ||
| All of us are hypocrites. | ||
| Unless you're buying some phone, what is the most... | ||
| We've talked about this before, Jamie, but I don't remember anything. | ||
| What is the most ethical phone you can buy? | ||
| Was it the Fairphone? | ||
| Remember? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think I learned that from you. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| And even that, like, where are the minerals coming from? | ||
| You follow the chain of parts, and there's a slave with a stick. | ||
| What do you do, though? | ||
| I mean, that's the problem. | ||
| We're all complicit in these things. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I mean, we could do what we can control, and I did think, you know, A lot of Trump's rhetoric in 2016 on trade, I think he was correct. | ||
| Are they really slaves in the China? | ||
| Slaves in the China? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Are they really slaves? | ||
| Foxconn? | ||
| They don't enjoy it at all? | ||
| Do they not enjoy it at all? | ||
| They make this as beautiful. | ||
| It was actually an expose recently written by a guy who posed as a guy of Chinese descent but I believe he's American and he worked in a factory making iPhones and doing one thing 12 hours a day and he wrote a story about it like how inhumane the conditions are there and try to get it in people's heads like this is what you're supporting when you buy a phone. | ||
| What's really kind of crazy is that Apple with all their money right and They're my favorite phone company, right? | ||
| They're my favorite phone company because they don't sell your information like Google does. | ||
| Right, yeah, they care about privacy. | ||
| Even with Apple Maps, they're not constantly collecting data and then just selling it to all these companies. | ||
| Even them, they don't see this massive problem and they don't do anything about it. | ||
| They just keep going down the same road because it's been effective and because economically they have an obligation to their shareholders and this is the most profitable way to do it. | ||
| So they keep doing it that way. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And this gets back to the Iraq and Afghanistan war. | ||
| There's trillions of dollars of mineral wealth in Afghanistan. | ||
| Like a lot of the stuff that ends up in your phone comes from there. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Lithium ion, all that stuff. | ||
| There's a huge deposit of lithium in Afghanistan. | ||
| There was a big story about that a few years ago, that they had found this new massive deposit of lithium. | ||
| I want you to imagine this, and I want to put this out there. | ||
| If Apple had their version of a Fairphone, like say this is our iPhone 12 Max Pro, but this is our Fairphone. | ||
| Now this phone, everybody makes at least $15 an hour. | ||
| This is a phone that doesn't use any conflict minerals that come from... | ||
| War-torn countries, but it costs $1,000, but it's not as good as the phone that costs $800. | ||
| Who would get it? | ||
| That's the question. | ||
| I think a lot of people would, because they would virtue signal. | ||
| They would say, I'm using the Fairphone. | ||
| Virtue signal has a negative connotation. | ||
| That's a good virtue signal. | ||
| What do you need? | ||
| I have a new phone. | ||
| I got a 12. I'm a fucking moron. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I was like, hey, get a 12. Pay the camera. | ||
| Get a pay the camera. | ||
| Oh, sides. | ||
| Sides. | ||
| They're flat now. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Love it. | ||
| But I don't need it, right? | ||
| If you made a phone that's the equivalent of the iPhone 7, right? | ||
| And it costs $900, but you feel good about yourself. | ||
| You don't feel bad. | ||
| What the fuck do you need your phone to do? | ||
| It's not making complex computations. | ||
| It's not doing super difficult video rendering. | ||
| Unless you're a hardcore gamer on your phone. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| What are you really using your goddamn phone? | ||
| You're FaceTiming your friends, you're making a few text messages, you're checking your email, maybe you watch a YouTube video, you play a podcast when you're in your car, you listen to music. | ||
| What the fuck are you using your phone for? | ||
| That you need a new processor, oh the new OLED has, you know, the new resolution is far better than the old, there's more pixels. | ||
| Listen, I'm 53 years old. | ||
| I need glasses to see my fucking text messages. | ||
| I don't know what's going on with your pixels. | ||
| If you could sell a phone that you could feel good about, where you could say, if a phone company came out with that and that was their big campaign, if it was ever a time, now is the time they could do that. | ||
| And I would buy it. | ||
| I don't fucking need this stupid new phone, but I bought it because I'm a moron. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But if a phone company came out and said, this is it. | ||
| We have a phone. | ||
| Maybe Korea's better. | ||
| Maybe Samsung's better. | ||
| I don't know where they're making their shit or where they're doing their shit. | ||
| I think they're all bad, I think, at the core of it. | ||
| There's slavery involved with all this. | ||
| And it's terrible, but it's probably true, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is anybody's hands really clean in all this? | ||
| I mean, it's relative, right? | ||
| Like, relatively clean? | ||
| Cleaner? | ||
| But I mean, this is why we need efficient, effective regulation. | ||
| Is it even possible? | ||
| Let's avoid the slavery thing. | ||
| Well, listen, it's harder. | ||
| The broader the scope, the harder it is. | ||
| So yes, if you're asking, hey, is it really possible to know where we get everything from for phones that are sold here when none of the materials come from here? | ||
| No, it's really not possible. | ||
| Well, someone's gotta know, right? | ||
| Apple, the phone has a bunch of recycled material in it. | ||
| Sure, but that means recycled from eventually slaves getting it out of the ground. | ||
| Well, from other phones is what they're saying. | ||
| Right, but it originally came from slaves getting those materials out of the ground. | ||
| But not at a constant rate. | ||
| Yeah, he's just saying it's not continuing to feed the slavery pipeline. | ||
| Slightly better. | ||
| So Apple's Rare Earth Recycling, a new iPhone series, steps up environmental response. | ||
| Yeah, but that's just the environment. | ||
| Even though this is good because they're not wasting the materials and they're recycling the materials, that's good for the environment, right? | ||
| But that doesn't address the Foxconn workers who live in a place where they have dormitories and they have nets around the building because so many people jumped off. | ||
| They decided to put nets up. | ||
| You would need the international community to get together and we all say to each other, alright, no slavery? | ||
| Yeah, no slavery. | ||
| And then some, I mean, some country would decide we're gonna be assholes because we'll get a competitive advantage if we have slaves, and then they'd probably do it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But, yeah, it's... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Well... | |
| Jimmy, pull up that Fairphone. | ||
| Dude, would you really get a Fairphone? | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm just lying on the podcast. | ||
| It's so insane. | ||
| It depends how shitty it is, though, right? | ||
| Can I airdrop? | ||
| If it's actually okay. | ||
| If it's even less, like slightly less, I'm going to go slavery. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| But can I airdrop with the Fairphone? | ||
| I'm going to go slavery. | ||
| It's an Android, so I mean... | ||
| Designed to last. | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| Recycled and fair materials. | ||
| 48 megapixel camera. | ||
| That's pretty good. | ||
| You look like a punk if you have this. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| You look like a punk if you pull out a Fairphone. | ||
| Look at this fucking guy. | ||
| Dude, it's horrible. | ||
| He doesn't even agree with slavery, this asshole. | ||
| What a horrible conversation start. | ||
| Oh, I have a Fairphone. | ||
| Oh, you think you've stopped slavery because you have one Fairphone? | ||
| Well, let's... | ||
| Why do they have white text on blue? | ||
| You're actually making a great point. | ||
| You're making a great point. | ||
| I'm always doing that. | ||
| Because, like, it's not an individual issue. | ||
| It's like when people say about climate change. | ||
| I just never know when I'm doing it. | ||
| It's like when people say about climate change, like, oh, did you drive a fucking car? | ||
| Is that what you did? | ||
| You drove a car to get here? | ||
| Did you know that fucking climate change has happened? | ||
| It's like, yeah, asshole. | ||
| And it's not like one individual can really make that much of a difference. | ||
| You actually need action from a higher level, like 73% of the emissions that lead to climate change come from the same, come from, I'm sorry. | ||
| South outside of Europe? | ||
| What does it say there? | ||
| 73 companies have like 100% or 90% of the emissions. | ||
| Some crazy stat that I'm not remembering. | ||
| They only sell within the EEA in Switzerland. | ||
| As an organization based in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, we currently focus our sales efforts in Europe. | ||
| At the same time, we are researching the market and logistic possibilities to sell outside of Europe. | ||
| You can find our full list of countries where we sell and ship to. | ||
| Yeah, when they try to sell outside of Europe. | ||
| Do they sell it to America? | ||
| Can I buy one? | ||
| Does it say United States? | ||
| L-M-N-O-P-Q-R-S? Nope. | ||
| Vatican City. | ||
| They don't even allow it here? | ||
| Vatican City. | ||
| Yeah, well, when you're molesting children, you really want a Fairphone. | ||
| They don't even allow it here? | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| They don't sell it here. | ||
| I think we say this is slavery, but we don't really know. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Well, at the heart of it, with the mines, yeah. | ||
| There's child slaves in those mines. | ||
| Shipping outside of Europe. | ||
| We do not sell or ship Fairphone products outside of Europe at the moment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The good news is we plan to start developing a selection of countries outside. | ||
| The question at the moment is how fast can we make this happen? | ||
| As an Amsterdam-based organization, we wanted to launch a Fairphone products in Europe. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| For the coming time, we will continue to focus our sales efforts on this region. | ||
| Oh, they don't have any plans. | ||
| So you can't even buy this fucking phone here. | ||
| But it's not a bad phone if you look at what it is. | ||
| It's a 46 megapixel camera, uses Android 10, which is, I think that's the latest. | ||
| No, is it Android 11 now? | ||
| I think they have Android 11 now. | ||
| But Tim is right. | ||
| This is not an individual issue. | ||
| Action needs to be taken at a higher level. | ||
| You can't just have one person go, I'm going to buy a Fairphone. | ||
| It's got to be systemic. | ||
| Well, I've got to be able to airdrop, too. | ||
| And the point I was trying to make, which I couldn't get out... | ||
| I think the phone system works well. | ||
| What phone says it? | ||
| The one we get where we get the nice phones. | ||
| Joey, he's saying he's pro-slavery. | ||
| This is what he's saying. | ||
| We get a new one every year. | ||
| I'm not pro-ing slavery, but if you're a child in China, you have to keep yourself occupied. | ||
| You can upgrade your camera. | ||
| There's a camera module. | ||
| That's kind of cool. | ||
| That's pretty cool. | ||
| If it works good. | ||
| Discover the greener way to get new features. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So they have a module that you can take out and then put back. | ||
| It probably also means no water resistance. | ||
| With all this modular shit, you're pulling out batteries and stuff. | ||
| That means usually, generally, that you're not going to be able to have water resistance. | ||
| You seem like you're actually somewhat interested in this, Joe. | ||
| I am somewhat interested in this because I've recognized my own hypocrisy by not supporting slavery but supporting slavery. | ||
| And it's also weird to me that, in my opinion, if I'm thinking about a progressive tech company, Apple's at the top of that list. | ||
| They have the most elegant design. | ||
| They have these super intelligent people working. | ||
| They have this beautiful campus. | ||
| They have all these things. | ||
| They have an enormous amount of money. | ||
| I mean, Apple has more money than the United States of America, right? | ||
| They have more reserve, more cash reserves than anything. | ||
| What is Apple's cash reserve? | ||
| I think it's in the trillions of dollars. | ||
| They have an enormous amount of money. | ||
| Well, they're incredibly successful. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| I'm not saying it's not a lot, but it's about $200 billion. | ||
| I thought it was in the trillions. | ||
| That's how much they're worth, I believe. | ||
| I don't think they have that in cash. | ||
| Okay, so in cash, they have hundreds of billions of dollars. | ||
| Can't you stop? | ||
| You guys can't figure it out? | ||
| You can't pay slaves better money? | ||
| You can't say they only have to work eight hours a day? | ||
| It's about the supply chain, man. | ||
| How much more would it cost? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I hear you, but I think it's more about the supply chain where, like, at some point down the line, they're just getting something from somebody else who's doing the work elsewhere. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, they come to them for the raw materials for whatever it is, and then they put it together. | ||
| Somebody owns the land where the minerals are being extracted from, and that person's running a slave operation. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| This is what the CIA would do. | ||
| When we needed minerals, whoever was running that country, they'd be like, he seems like he's hurting his own people. | ||
| He's a genocidal monster. | ||
| We must do something. | ||
| There's always an argument. | ||
| There's always some veneer. | ||
| It's like that Bill Hicks joke where they go, he's a Hitler and whatever you need, folks. | ||
| Whatever you need, we're going in. | ||
| Well, that's Smedley Butler. | ||
| Right? | ||
| General Smedley Butler, yeah. | ||
| War as a Racket. | ||
| That's really the extent of his argument, or his article rather, is when he wrote that, he thought when he first enlisted into the Army, and by the way, I believe that's 33. What year was that? | ||
| Smedley Butler, War as a Racket. | ||
| I want to say it's in the 1930s. | ||
| And he wrote this... | ||
| 35. 35. Eerily accurate account of what we're dealing with today when it comes to why we really take military action on certain countries. | ||
| And they really, in his case back then, he was talking about protecting bankers. | ||
| Yeah, we had soldiers who were dishonorably discharged when they blew the whistle on some of our allies having child sex slaves. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Say that again. | ||
| We had soldiers who were dishonorably discharged when they blew the whistle on our allies in Afghanistan having child sex slaves. | ||
| So they spoke up and said, our allies are fucking children here. | ||
| And they were dishonorably discharged. | ||
| Dishonorably discharged. | ||
| But nobody likes a rat. | ||
| No one wants a rat. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| That's a great point because we also do horrible things and you're like, well, if he's going to rat out our allies, they might rat out us. | ||
| Yeah, and they probably fuck kids too. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Who were these guys and where are they now? | ||
| I'm going on an article I read like five years ago. | ||
| I'll try to pull it up. | ||
| In Afghanistan, they have this whole thing where it's like you have ladyboys and then they have like goat herders have sex with the warriors. | ||
| It's like a warlord culture. | ||
| That's the extent of what I know about it, but... | ||
| I read an article. | ||
| He said that knowing that you have this shallow amount of information. | ||
| It's a very small amount of information, but it's very visual. | ||
| I know they're warlords and they're walking around rocks. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| U.S. soldiers told to ignore sexual abuse of boys by Afghan allies. | ||
| Also, cross off Afghan allies and write U.S. senators. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like, that's also the thing. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Wasn't he one of the speakers of the house, right? | ||
| Denny Hastert. | ||
| Hastert, yeah. | ||
| Well, he was molesting boys when he was working as a wrestling coach. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And really good friends with Tony Podesta, John Podesta's brother. | ||
| By the way, if I want to say, I think he got 15 months. | ||
| He got an incredibly short term. | ||
| When you're connected. | ||
| Yeah, Hastert. | ||
| Pull that up. | ||
| Speaker of the House, Hastert. | ||
| And what he got. | ||
| And so, I mean, that fucking, that is the tip of some iceberg somewhere. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I mean, you've gone deep on the Epstein shit. | |
| So, 15 months? | ||
| 15 months for fucking kids. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| Think about all these guys that are in jail right now for pot. | ||
| Non-violent drug offenses. | ||
| Non-violent drug dealers. | ||
| A bunch of dudes. | ||
| How about Kamala Harris? | ||
| How many did she put away? | ||
| How many did she put away for way longer? | ||
| She only did 13 months. | ||
| Oh, well, got off good behavior. | ||
| Didn't fuck any kids in those last two months. | ||
| By the way, this was one of the issues where Trump could have hit Biden hard because Biden did the crime bill. | ||
| And Trump did the First Step Act. | ||
| That's a reversal of the roles there, where you have Biden's acting like the Republican, and Trump's acting like the Democrat. | ||
| Well, it was tough to hit Kamala on that, because Trump was like, she put black people in jail, and the crowd's like, yes! | ||
|
unidentified
|
And Trump's like, no, no, no, that's a, hold on, and she's a cop! | |
| And they're like, yes! | ||
| You know, so it's a tough... | ||
| You gotta really dance. | ||
| That's why he's had a hard time defining Biden. | ||
| Because, you know, if you hit him on the crime bill, that's like saying, he's too tough on crime. | ||
| But he did hit him on the crime bill in that debate. | ||
| I know, but then in the next sentence, what did he do? | ||
| He said, he won't even say law and order. | ||
| This guy's okay with the riots. | ||
| You gotta pick one. | ||
| You can't say he's too tough on crime with the crime bill and he's too soft on crime because he won't say law and order. | ||
| The crime bill wasn't just tough on crime. | ||
| Right, it was tough on non-violent crime, which shouldn't be crime. | ||
| And it was also, like, it didn't give anybody a path for redemption. | ||
| It just basically locked people up. | ||
| And then when you're dealing with, this is also during the time of the rise of the private prison industry. | ||
| And so all of that is being funneled into people's parts. | ||
| Biden has always been a shady guy, right? | ||
| Didn't he, like, help all the credit card companies relocate to Delaware? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yes! | |
| In the bankruptcy bill! | ||
| The bankruptcy bill, you can't file for bankruptcy on your student loans. | ||
| All other forms of debt, you can file for bankruptcy on it. | ||
| You can't do it on student loans. | ||
| And now this guy's, you know, might be our next president. | ||
| We'll find out. | ||
| How dark is that? | ||
| You can't file for bankruptcy on student loans. | ||
| No matter what it is, you owe it forever. | ||
| There's people right now that are getting Social Security, and they get some of their money docked because they owe student loans. | ||
| Imagine, you hit the end of the line, right? | ||
| You're 70 years old, you're tired every day, your feet hurt, and your social security check gets sliced because you have student loans that you never used anyway. | ||
| Like, that education didn't do you a damn good. | ||
| No good at all. | ||
| And the money, the reason why it was so expensive for that education was the government was subsidizing it. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And there are other developed countries, a bunch of them do. | ||
| Basically, they treat college the same way we treat high school here. | ||
| Or you could just go. | ||
| That is one of the reasons why I supported Bernie Sanders. | ||
| I supported him for a couple of reasons. | ||
| One, the idea of abolishing student debt. | ||
| Two, making college free. | ||
| We want people to be more educated. | ||
| We want them to be more educated. | ||
| It's one of the best ways to ensure that we have... | ||
| I always say this, what's the best way to make America great? | ||
| Have less losers. | ||
| What's the best way to have less losers? | ||
| Give more people opportunity. | ||
| So, get them out of debt for shit that they did when they were 17. They didn't even know it. | ||
| They didn't understand what they were doing. | ||
| You're getting in debt for hundreds of thousands of dollars for an education that'd be literally worthless. | ||
| Like, Jamie went to school for shit that doesn't even work anymore. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You make this education, or you get this education for computer programming. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or, you know, you're learning software that's completely irrelevant by the time you get out of school. | ||
| And you're hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. | ||
| You should be able to sue. | ||
| You should be like, you fuckers. | ||
| You made me learn some shit. | ||
| You should wipe the slate clean. | ||
| Get rid of the student loan debt. | ||
| I mean, think about it. | ||
| We bail out bankers. | ||
| We bail out Wall Street. | ||
| We have endless amounts of money for the war, right? | ||
| For the wars. | ||
| If we're gonna bail out anybody, it should be students. | ||
| Like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Student debt and medical debt. | ||
| And by the way, I like the questions you asked Kanye because it was funny to me watching. | ||
| You were very policy focused. | ||
| You were like, okay, so what do you think about the issue of student loan debt? | ||
| Like, do you have a plan for that? | ||
| The big one for me was, what are you going to do with the military? | ||
| Like, if you have military... | ||
| He said a prayer, I believe, was his answer to that one. | ||
| He's going to consult Jesus. | ||
| I like Kanye a lot, and I thought that that was really interesting, that his answer for the military was not something that he just ranted on. | ||
| That was something that he thought about, and he said, I would consult experts. | ||
| You know, he's like, I'm a civilian. | ||
| You know, Trump said that a lot too in 2016 when he was asked a question he wasn't sure about. | ||
| He's like, I'd be surrounded by the best people. | ||
| But he never said it like the way Kanye did it. | ||
| And I'm not saying Kanye West should be president. | ||
| But I was genuinely impressed with his thoughtfulness. | ||
| Genuinely. | ||
| You know, I don't think he should be president. | ||
| But by the way, he could be. | ||
| What are the numbers? | ||
| Not now. | ||
| He's not winning this election, that's for sure. | ||
| Not this one. | ||
| But understand, he could. | ||
| No bullshit. | ||
| Like, this is how fucking sideways we've gone through the looking last. | ||
| Look, if it was up to me... | ||
| Trump was a good politician, though, Joe. | ||
| I really think Trump was a really... | ||
| He didn't get his due, either, because the media hates him so much, that they didn't recognize what he was doing was he wasn't running like a traditional Republican, which is like Mitt Romney style, which is uninspiring. | ||
| He was running like a populist. | ||
| And that appealed to people who otherwise would. | ||
| There are two times Obama voters who voted for Trump. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| Now they abandoned him because he stopped. | ||
| He didn't govern like we thought he might when he was being a populist. | ||
| Do you think that was because he was lying when he was running or do you think it's because the things that he was promising, once you get into office and you see the reality of the job... | ||
| No, I'll explain it. | ||
| I think Trump is a path of least resistance guy. | ||
| So, when he got in power, he surrounded himself with the same fucking ghouls that have been destroying Washington all along. | ||
| I mean, he had Gary Cohn, Goldman Sachs, Steve Mnuchin, Goldman Sachs, Larry Kudlow from CNBC, the guy's never been right about anything economically in his entire life, but now he's making decisions for the economy. | ||
| And we can go down the list, John Bolton on foreign policy, one of the same guys who's a fucking war criminal who sent us to Iraq. | ||
| So, Trump spoke against the Iraq war, and then he hired the guy who was most responsible for getting us into fucking Iraq. | ||
| Try to make sense of that one. | ||
| So the problem is, he picked all these career insider swamp creatures, and then all of them were talking in his ear all day, every day, no, no, you can't do that thing, you can't stop the outsourcing, no, you can't get us out of the wars, you can't do this, you can't do that. | ||
| And Trump, listen, at the end of the day, all he really cares about is getting the adulation. | ||
| And he loves, like, when he's doing a rally and the crowd is, like, loving him, that's his thing, man, that's what he's into. | ||
| So he wants that love and adoration while he just keeps the status quo going and holding it together with fucking band-aids and bubblegum, you know? | ||
| Like, that's what it is. | ||
| It's, I'm gonna keep the status quo going, relatively normal, as I portray myself as this- I think you're right about all of that, but there's gotta be some allowance made for the fact that, like, he spent two years defending himself from the accusation that he was a Russian spy. | ||
| That's right. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The Democrats are insane. | |
| The two-year idea that the guy was a Russian spy. | ||
| And the reason the Democrats did that is because they don't have anything policy-wise that they're pushing to make counter-arguments. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So instead of saying, like, what we're going to do is we're going to abolish student loan debt and we're going to fight with the Republicans on this day in and day out. | ||
| They didn't do that. | ||
| They did exactly what you said, which is, oh, my God, maybe he's Vladimir Putin's puppet Manchurian candidate, not even for America. | ||
| And, of course, where'd that get us? | ||
| Absolutely nowhere. | ||
| By the way, I love how the Mueller report got Trump on dick when it came to that. | ||
| And the Democrats just acted like there was no day of reckoning where it was like, damn, we really fucked this up from the beginning. | ||
| I remember one of the first or second times I was on your podcast, I told you that they're going to get nothing on the Russia thing. | ||
| And they got nothing on the Russia thing. | ||
| There's other kinds of standard issue corruption going on in there. | ||
| There's still people that claim that the Russia thing did show collusion. | ||
| Okay, then why is Trump still president? | ||
| Jamie's one of them. | ||
| Why hasn't anybody around him gone to prison? | ||
| Jamie thinks that he was in collusion. | ||
| But Jamie also pretended to have COVID. So this is a problem. | ||
| Because he was scared of meeting Kanye. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So this is a pattern of behavior with Jamie. | ||
| Scared to meet his idols. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| I'm not wearing the shoes, don't worry about it. | ||
| When you looked at your phone, did you get any hot results? | ||
| Is there anything off the... | ||
| Yeah, there's some shit going down in Florida. | ||
| They've projected wins for both of them. | ||
| It's going back and forth. | ||
| Can I show you the Trump 2016 ad? | ||
| I sent it to Jamie. | ||
| Yeah, we're going to look... | ||
| Oh, this is 2016, okay. | ||
| Yeah, I DM'd it to Jamie. | ||
| I want to show you how good he was. | ||
| That's it, correct. | ||
| How good he was. | ||
| Joe, here we go. | ||
| We're going to do that, and... | ||
| Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people. | ||
| The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election. | ||
| For those who control the levers of power in Washington, and for the global special interest, they partner with these people that don't have your good in mind. | ||
| The political establishment that is trying to stop us is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration, and economic and foreign policies that have bled our country dry. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The political establishment has brought about the destruction of our factories. | |
| And our jobs as they flee to Mexico, China, and other countries all around the world. | ||
| It's a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities. | ||
| The only thing That can stop this corrupt machine is you. | ||
| The only force strong enough to save our country is us. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The only people brave enough to vote out this corrupt establishment is you, the American people. | |
| I'm doing this for the people and for the movement, and we will take back this country for you, and we will make America great again. | ||
| Great ad. | ||
| Listen, that is not like other Republicans. | ||
| That's him being incredibly populist, right? | ||
| And now, I just want to show you, because I'll show you his 2020 closing ad, okay? | ||
| So you can compare. | ||
| Jamie, I DM that to you as well. | ||
| It's the Trump tweet that says, vote, vote, vote. | ||
| This is what he released today as basically his closing ad. | ||
| And just look at how different this is. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Okay. | |
| Hold on. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Gave me a lead-in like I was already ready. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| Yeah, I get excited sometimes. | ||
| That was a good ad, right? | ||
| That was a damn good ad. | ||
| That was a great fucking ad. | ||
| Made me want to take a time machine and go back and vote for him. | ||
| I mean, it's a great ad. | ||
| How is Joe Jorgensen doing? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| 0.6%. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| She's got 0.6%? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| This is bad. | ||
| The dancing. | ||
| I don't know if we're allowed to play that. | ||
| Okay, then mute it. | ||
| Mute it, but keep it going. | ||
|
unidentified
|
This is the whole fucking thing, Joe Rogan. | |
| He's just dancing? | ||
| Does this the song play the whole time? | ||
|
unidentified
|
I actually don't remember how long it plays, but I also gotta be honest, I also like this one. | |
| That move. | ||
| That move. | ||
| He does that move everywhere. | ||
| I'm also equally assuaged by this. | ||
| That's the Macho Man song, isn't it? | ||
| Isn't that Village People? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is it YMCA? Yeah. | ||
| But what he's doing is he's saying all that stuff about NAFTA with his hands. | ||
| This is in here a little bit for a second. | ||
| Why is that his ad? | ||
| Mute it, mute it, mute it. | ||
| I don't want to get this bad. | ||
| Yeah, mute it. | ||
| That is his ad? | ||
| This is the ad, Joe Rogan? | ||
| The YMCA? Yes! | ||
| Every other song he was playing, they told him to stop playing it. | ||
| They got cease and desist orders for it. | ||
| But he's showing he's young, he's vital, he just got done with COVID. Look at his dancing. | ||
| Here's the thing, Joe. | ||
| He's like an amazing non-person. | ||
| His attacks against Biden don't resonate as much as his attacks against Hillary resonated. | ||
| Because... | ||
| What is it? | ||
| His legs are broken. | ||
| He's stuck to the ground. | ||
| His knees don't work. | ||
| He's paralyzed. | ||
| What a weird dance. | ||
| I'm going to start doing that. | ||
| It's like a guy that was in a car accident. | ||
| He's got it on a loop. | ||
| He just got the same dance on a loop. | ||
| This is a crazy ad. | ||
| So it's just music? | ||
| He made a TikTok video is what he did. | ||
| Yeah, but it's just music and him dancing. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That is so bizarre. | ||
| Okay, so now, but beyond this, Joe, because the main argument he's using against Joe Biden is Joe Biden is some sort of radical socialist Antifa lover, and that's not landing. | ||
|
unidentified
|
But look at this fucking, this ad is so dumb. | |
| Look at this ad. | ||
| Someone hates him. | ||
| Someone inside the White House hates him and they made this ad. | ||
| They're like, I'm going to sink his fucking battleship with this shit. | ||
| I think you're bullshitting on it, but I think he's basically saying get out and vote. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It's ridiculous. | |
| Do you think he knows it's over? | ||
| He should. | ||
| Maybe he doesn't even want to win. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Maybe secretly he doesn't want to win. | ||
| This is the craziest thing I've ever seen. | ||
| It's the dumbest ad I've ever seen. | ||
| This move is so strange. | ||
| Vote, vote. | ||
| He tweeted that with the words, vote, vote, vote. | ||
| Let's get some updates. | ||
| 27 million views on that. | ||
| 27 million. | ||
| Well, 27 million people going, what the fuck is this? | ||
| We're going to get some... | ||
| You need some updates. | ||
| Alright, let's see. | ||
| Let's see where we're at. | ||
| I say it's all red now. | ||
| It says updated as of right now. | ||
| Trump is up. | ||
| The biggest one I think that I've seen so far is Florida's reporting at 89%. | ||
| And Trump is leading. | ||
| Trump is leading. | ||
| So Trump needs that state to have any chance, and it looks like he's in the lead by 2%, which is actually not terrible at 89% in, which actually looks like it's solid for him at the moment. | ||
| Okay, so he's going to win. | ||
| Well, not necessarily. | ||
| Wait until they call it, but... | ||
| I mean, this could be... | ||
| I think it's... | ||
| I think... | ||
| Okay, what... | ||
| So if he wins Florida, what else does he do to... | ||
| Wow, look at that. | ||
| He just gets Ohio or Pennsylvania. | ||
| He's in, right? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He needs... | ||
| If he wins Florida, the next thing you have to look at is Pennsylvania, and he must win Pennsylvania as well. | ||
| How's Pennsylvania looking? | ||
| Pennsylvania's leaning blue at the moment. | ||
| 7% reporting right now. | ||
| And that's all the mail-ins. | ||
| The mail-ins are 76% Biden, which is what I told you earlier, that the mail-ins are going to be pro-Biden, and on the day votes are going to be pro-Trump. | ||
| But he needs Pennsylvania. | ||
| He needs Florida. | ||
| He needs Ohio. | ||
| So Pennsylvania, the polls are still open? | ||
| Pennsylvania, I'll tell you one second. | ||
| Hold on, I'll tell you one second. | ||
| It's 10pm there. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Pennsylvania... | |
| Oh, 9pm there. | ||
| It says open, but it says closed at 8pm Eastern Time, so they should have closed about an hour ago. | ||
| Okay, so they have to count. | ||
| Yes, Pennsylvania closed at 8, but they're counting. | ||
| And they're starting again with the mail-in votes, which is why Biden has such a strong lead at the moment. | ||
| But in the polling, in Pennsylvania, Biden was up about 5 or 6 points in the average of the polling. | ||
| So that's basically Trump's biggest hurdle to winning the election is Pennsylvania, because he's down 5 or 6 points there. | ||
| So, if he can win Florida, which it looks good for him now in Florida, Trump, then it comes down to Pennsylvania, and if he can win Pennsylvania, then you're getting, now you're really having a conversation about the election. | ||
| Well, that's what I, right, that's what I said. | ||
| But I thought, no, no, but I thought you were saying, I thought you were saying that was it and he wins after that. | ||
| No, no, no, no, I was saying that was it and then we can play the ad again. | ||
| Then he's in the ballgame. | ||
| Everybody gets excited again. | ||
| Then he's in the ballgame, he's in the ballgame. | ||
| Then he's in the ballgame with the riots start, let's get the riots going, let's get the bricks going. | ||
| If he wins Florida and he wins Pennsylvania, what else does he have to do to win? | ||
| Ohio. | ||
| He's got to win Ohio. | ||
| What does Joe Biden have to do to win at this point? | ||
| First of all, Texas looks blue right now. | ||
| I'm not saying it's going to stay like that. | ||
| If Joe Biden wins Texas, it's game, set, match. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| If Joe Biden somehow comes back in Florida now, he wins. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Game, set, match. | ||
| That's the problem is all my people from California bailed out of California and moved here. | ||
| There was a big push. | ||
| Turn Texas blue. | ||
| That was a big thing. | ||
| Fascinating. | ||
| No, this really is fascinating because I think Texas is going to go red, but I thought Florida was going to go blue. | ||
| So we'll see. | ||
| So Google is showing it in a way that's a little more easier to look at. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It shows all the groups of the swing states. | ||
| By the way, scroll down. | ||
| Scroll down, Jamie, for one sec. | ||
| North Carolina is an important swing state, and right now Biden's up just a little bit there. | ||
| And by the way, Biden up in Ohio as well, even though there's probably early votes in just mail-in, but that's big too because Trump needs Ohio and he needs Pennsylvania. | ||
| What's interesting, too, is the numbers of people voting. | ||
| It seems like way more people are voting. | ||
| Huge turnout, Joe. | ||
| Huge turnout. | ||
| Gigantic. | ||
| What's the number? | ||
| I'll pull them up for you right now. | ||
| It was 102 early. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| I didn't vote because I thought too many people were voting. | ||
|
unidentified
|
So, get this. | |
| Isn't the early vote more than all of the vote from some years? | ||
| Yes, that's what I was going to say. | ||
| For Texas specifically... | ||
| How about you let him answer since he's the fucking expert? | ||
| You're looking at me. | ||
| Jamie's like, no, no. | ||
| For Texas specifically, yes. | ||
| Texas passed the total number of votes in their pre-voting, in their mail-in votes. | ||
| They surpassed their 2016 total in just the mail-in. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Where did you vote? | ||
| New York? | ||
| I didn't vote. | ||
| Oh, you didn't vote? | ||
| No, I did not. | ||
| Wow. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| I can't believe you're surprised by that. | ||
| Well, I know you weren't going to vote for Biden, but I didn't know you were not going to vote, period. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| What was I going to do? | ||
| Vote for Trump? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Go Joe Jorgensen. | ||
| I didn't vote because it looked kind of gross. | ||
| It looked gross, the voting, because they were doing it at firehouses and libraries. | ||
| It was a little grotesque. | ||
| And they all stand outside with masks. | ||
| It seemed very low rent. | ||
| I went to dinner instead. | ||
| And that's how I've been doing it for years. | ||
| I think that's a good, healthy way to do it. | ||
| Let me explain why I did what I did. | ||
| So basically, for me, it came down to obviously I'm not going to support Trump. | ||
| I've ripped him a million ways to Sunday and I'll continue to do that. | ||
| I think he's been effectively governed as an establishment Republican with tax cuts for the wealthy and continuing the wars. | ||
| And to me, that's you're done. | ||
| I have no interest in more tax cuts for the rich. | ||
| I have no interest in continued wars. | ||
| I have no interest in deregulation and stuff like that. | ||
| For Biden, my political awakening came with the Iraq war in 2003. | ||
| When we basically were lied into a war and we continued that illegal war. | ||
| And he was one of the guys who voted for it. | ||
| And listen, I truly believe that everybody who voted for that Iraq War should be in prison. | ||
| I think they're all war criminals. | ||
| It was an illegal war, even according to the UN. And over 200,000 innocent civilians are dead. | ||
| The most foundational thing that happened when I was growing up getting involved in politics, and I just can't look past that. | ||
| That's not a little thing to me. | ||
| So now, if you want me to give you my breakdown of the candidates, do I think overall Joe Biden is a lesser evil? | ||
| I do, because Joe Biden's going to get us back in the Iran deal, Joe Biden's going to get us back in the Paris Climate Agreement, and those things I think are really important. | ||
| But I just couldn't bring myself to pull the lever, especially because I live in New York, and New York's a safe state anyway. | ||
| It's not like my vote matters. | ||
| But I just couldn't bring myself to do it, man. | ||
| I just couldn't do it. | ||
| Do you take heat for that? | ||
| I didn't disclose what I was going to do yet until right now. | ||
| I know you disclosed that you weren't going to vote for Biden. | ||
| People were already giving you heat for that. | ||
| Yeah, well, I said that right after the primary when the feelings were raw with Bernie getting screwed again. | ||
| So that's why I said it then. | ||
| Why does Bernie just take that laying down? | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Is he that nice of a guy? | ||
| He really likes Joe Biden, number one. | ||
| Number two, I think he really buys into the lesser evil framework where he thinks like, no, I mean... | ||
| It's either going to be Trump or Biden, and you have to pick from the two. | ||
| So I'm going to go with the guy who's, you know, better on more of the things that I agree. | ||
| Like, for example, Biden has signed up for doing Bernie Sanders' living wage idea, $15 minimum wage. | ||
| And so, you know, Bernie takes that and he goes, okay, this is enough for me to go out there and push you and make an argument for you. | ||
| Now, will Biden actually do that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I hope he will. | ||
| I have no idea if he actually will. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| What are the arguments against that? | ||
| Well, people say, oh, it's going to lead to an increase in unemployment because small businesses can't afford to, you know, pay for it, especially at a time like right now with COVID where small businesses are having a hard time staying open either way. | ||
| Well, also, there's also arguments that these are jobs for young people that perhaps still work at home. | ||
| The data doesn't bear that out, though. | ||
| There's plenty of people who work full time and they make a minimum wage. | ||
| But you don't want people that are making the Filet-O-Fish complacent. | ||
| Like you want them working? | ||
| Listen, they need to know their mistakes. | ||
| Whitney Cummings just texted me. | ||
| She's like, I can't believe you guys are eating Filet-O-Fish. | ||
| It's like, shut up. | ||
| She yelled at me for not voting. | ||
| She yelled at me for not voting. | ||
| She said it's going to be bad for my career. | ||
| Tell her I said thank you because she's backing up my Filet-O-Fish argument. | ||
| She said it will be bad for my career if I don't vote. | ||
| She goes, do you want to be the person in 2020 who didn't vote? | ||
| And I said, yes. | ||
| I mean, listen, it is what it is. | ||
| You live in California, right? | ||
| I live in California. | ||
| It's not a swing state. | ||
| Are you registered to vote there or no? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| My business manager called me and said, should we register you to vote? | ||
| I said, try to get my license back. | ||
| I got a suspended license in New York. | ||
| They're trying to put me in jail. | ||
| Let's focus on that and then we'll get to voting. | ||
| We'll get to voting in three or four months. | ||
| You know, Tim used to sell subprime mortgages. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yes. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And my living was taken from me by an authoritarian government who took me and a lot of men from Long Island who were trying to help people realize the American dream were unfairly painted as criminals just because we were expanding people's ability to get credit. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Sorry I wanted everyone to have a pool. | ||
| A lot of people don't hear that perspective. | ||
| I'm glad you brought that up. | ||
| And I'm here to give it. | ||
| You started out selling subprime mortgages. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I started out selling cars. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, wow. | |
| And I as well was also on many substances. | ||
| Oh, that's so funny. | ||
| As I was doing it. | ||
| What kind of cars were you selling? | ||
| I was selling Chevys. | ||
| Were you like a You're a good salesman or you're like a piker? | ||
| No, because I'm too nice and I don't give a fuck if the person buys the car or not. | ||
| I mean, I won't get paid. | ||
| I'm too honest. | ||
| What I was going to say is I was probably the number one consumer of Four Loko back when it was the original Four Loko. | ||
| Okay, well, you needed stronger drugs. | ||
| That clearly didn't do it. | ||
| It's cocaine in a can. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| That's not really a joke. | ||
| We were doing cocaine off our desk. | ||
| Well, if I had that, I probably would have done the same thing. | ||
| But Four Loko was taken off the shelves because people were having fucking heart attacks and shit. | ||
| Listen, buddy, we were doing lines of blow off our desk and then taking people's 1040s with whiteout and getting deals done. | ||
| Jamie just motioned to me to get you guys to try to not talk over each other. | ||
| I apologize, Jamie. | ||
| I was moving into your camera as well. | ||
| Oh, oh, oh. | ||
| I keep doing that. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Let me scoot this way more. | ||
| Have I been doing that the whole time? | ||
| We need to learn sign language. | ||
| Both of us do. | ||
| I know how to spell it, but it takes too long. | ||
| Dude, the sign language interpreters are so out of control now. | ||
| Do you remember the fake one next to Obama? | ||
| That was hilarious. | ||
| He had no idea what he was doing. | ||
| He was just doing a bunch of TikTok moves. | ||
| The guy got three inches away from Obama. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| It shows you how fucking poor, poorly managed a lot of those situations are, where such poor security, poor planning. | ||
| You have a fucking guy you don't even know. | ||
| President of the United States. | ||
| I want to know how long he was doing that, too, before people who actually sign are like, hey, hey, hey, what is that? | ||
| What is this craziness? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| That shows how important confidence is. | ||
| Because the person started doing it just really confidently, like they belong there. | ||
| And that was enough for everybody to be like, I guess that person belongs there. | ||
| All of the people now, it's disgusting what they do. | ||
| They're very big and everything. | ||
| And it's like, we get it, but you're distracting. | ||
| Because most people can hear. | ||
| So what you're doing is you're distracting. | ||
| For me, I'm trying to listen to the message. | ||
| It's very distracting to have somebody who's very over the top doing it. | ||
| And that's true. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Deaf people, for the most part, are very rude. | ||
| There was a ruling today about Gavin Newsom. | ||
| There was a ruling about Gavin Newsom that is something about using unconstitutional policies. | ||
| He's an unliked man right now in California. | ||
| Well, talking of car salesman, he looks like the sleaziest car salesman on the planet. | ||
| Well, he looks like a guy who should be president. | ||
| Like, he looks like a president. | ||
| In a movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In a movie, maybe. | ||
| He looks like a president. | ||
| He sounds like a president. | ||
| He's a good-looking dude. | ||
| Judge rules to limit California governor's power. | ||
| Powers amid pandemic. | ||
| He's out of fucking control. | ||
| He's out of his mind. | ||
| It's amazing how much money people are losing, too. | ||
| Like Disneyland. | ||
| Disneyland is losing some insane number of millions of dollars a day. | ||
| The order prevents Gavin Newsom from exercising any power under California Emergency Services Act, which amends, alters, or changes existing statutory law or makes new statutory law or legislative policy. | ||
| The judge determined that the California Emergency Services Act itself was constitutional but noted that it does not permit the governor to amend statutes or make new statutes. | ||
| That's what I've been saying the whole time. | ||
| He's like, this guy is an autocrat. | ||
| The governor does not have the power or authority to assume the legislator's role of creating legislative policy and enactments. | ||
| It's just so spooky how people get into power and you find out how much they love using it. | ||
| Go back to that again. | ||
| It says, determining one of his orders was an unconstitutional exercise of legislative power. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| It's scary there, man. | ||
| Like, they're giving you orders on what you can do for Thanksgiving. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You can't have more than three families. | ||
| You can't have any singing. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| You have to be outside. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No singing? | ||
| No singing. | ||
| You have to be outside. | ||
| It has to only go on for two hours. | ||
| As if after two hours everyone turns into a pumpkin. | ||
| This is absurd, and this is an abuse of power, and he must be... | ||
| They gotta stop this. | ||
| They do have to stop. | ||
| But just the type of person that would say that... | ||
| Imagine being a governor, you're dealing with half your fucking state's on fire, like everyone's out of work, and you're like, you can't sing. | ||
| Don't sing. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| And your parties? | ||
| Wait, is this real? | ||
| They can't sing? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I saw this going around too and I didn't think it was real when I saw it. | ||
| Didn't look into it. | ||
| I'm looking into it now. | ||
| Look into it now. | ||
| That doesn't sound real. | ||
| There was something put out, but our favorite website, Snopes, says this is false. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, that's like some fucking Fox News. | |
| Some Facebook meme or some shit, Joe. | ||
| I saw it on Fox News. | ||
| No, no, no, don't say that unless you're sure. | ||
| Jamie's wrong all the time with this stuff because he only Googles these lefty, liberal fake news sites. | ||
| Snopes? | ||
| Snopes is a fake news site. | ||
| They get busted all the time for fake news. | ||
| Very biased. | ||
| By the way, the guy who runs Snopes, like, he's a huge Democrat. | ||
| Like, the whole organization is heavily left-leaning. | ||
| But wait, but that didn't set the alarms off to you, the, oh, you can't sing? | ||
| What fucking government agency would do that? | ||
| You can't sing. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| That's next. | ||
| I think maybe six months ago that might have been funny, but now it's like, now you're like, okay, I'm sure that's going to be next. | ||
| Yeah, I'm telling you, it was on Fox News. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Well, Fox News is certainly always right. | ||
| I'm not saying it wasn't being passed around, but I'm saying that it was being passed around under false pretenses. | ||
| On Fox News, it says, no more than three households present, parties no longer than two hours, guests must stay outside, avoid singing, chanting, and shouting. | ||
| Right, but... | ||
| Yeah, but again, that's... | ||
| How are you gonna do... | ||
| That's Fox News. | ||
| California Department of Public Health. | ||
| It's a quote from the California Department of Public Health. | ||
| Just Google it, you fuck, and don't interrupt Kyle anymore. | ||
| I asked him. | ||
| I did ask him that time. | ||
| I said that sounded fake. | ||
| You gotta look that up. | ||
| A meme circling on Facebook says this is not accurate. | ||
| Fuck Snopes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Celebrities rip California governor's news... | ||
| It's gotta be... | ||
| Coronavirus is California. | ||
| Gavin Newsom's Thanksgiving rules. | ||
| Click on that. | ||
| That's Daily Mail, though. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| But they are saying what I want to hear. | ||
| Do you not understand how this works? | ||
| This is like an experiment in, you know, ideological confirmation bias. | ||
| They're saying what I want to hear. | ||
| The guidelines... | ||
| There must be a link. | ||
| There never is a link. | ||
| There must be. | ||
| Listen, Chuck Woolery is backing us up. | ||
| You're moving too fast. | ||
| Go back up. | ||
| Chuck Woolery. | ||
| There's all these dumb pop-ups. | ||
| We'll be right back in two and two. | ||
| The order requires a host of private gatherings to limit attendance. | ||
| Stop! | ||
| I'm trying to find a link to find the order. | ||
| But you're moving while I'm reading. | ||
| You know that, right? | ||
| Here's the link that would tell us if this is accurate or not. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Okay, hit it. | |
| Let's go. | ||
| California Department of Public Health. | ||
| Summary. | ||
| This provides an updated plan for California to gather outside their household and replaces the prior gatherings guidelines issued on September 12th. | ||
| Scroll up again. | ||
| Mandatory requirements for all gatherings. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Scroll up. | |
| Of course it's frozen. | ||
| It's a goddamn California website. | ||
| Piece of shit. | ||
| How do they get rid of chanting when in California everyone's a Satanist? | ||
|
unidentified
|
And they need that occult chant. | |
| That's a good question. | ||
| It's not considerate. | ||
| How funny is that that the website crashes? | ||
| We probably crashed the website. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| We're live. | ||
| We're live. | ||
| Whoa, that's crazy. | ||
| I forgot we're live. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
| Mandatory requirements for gathering. | ||
| Attendance. | ||
| Gatherings must include... | ||
| Gatherings that include more than three households are prohibited. | ||
| Okay, this is exactly what it said, Snopes, you fucks. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Stop scrolling. | ||
| Keep the households that you interact with stable over time. | ||
| It was the singing thing I'm curious about. | ||
| By spending time with the same people, risk of transmission is reduced. | ||
| Okay, gather outdoors. | ||
| Gatherings that occur outdoors are significantly safer than indoor gatherings. | ||
| All gatherings must be held outside. | ||
| Again, that's what the thing said. | ||
| Attendees may go inside to use the restroom as long as the restrooms are frequently sanitized. | ||
| Jeez, they're telling you! | ||
| You have to sanitize your fucking restroom if you want to go inside. | ||
| Gatherings may occur in outdoor spaces that are covered by umbrellas, canopies, awnings, roofs, and other shade structures that provide at least three sides of this space or 75% open to the outdoors. | ||
| This is fucking outrageous. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The COVID part is... | ||
| Gatherings of no more than three households is permitted. | ||
| In a public park or outdoor space, if unrelated gatherings of other groups, up to three households, also occur in the same park or outdoor space, if multiple such gatherings are occurring, mixing between the group gatherings is not allowed. | ||
| You can't mix with other people that you see at the park. | ||
| Additionally, multiple gatherings of three households cannot be jointly organized or coordinated to occur in the same public park. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So what else does it say? | ||
| Scroll down. | ||
| Seating must provide at least six feet of distance in all directions. | ||
| Everyone at the gathering should frequently wash their hands with soap and water. | ||
| Fucking duh. | ||
| Shared items should not be allowed during the gathering as much as possible. | ||
| Any food or beverage outside gatherings must be in single-serve disposable containers. | ||
| Wear a face covering to keep COVID from spreading. | ||
| When gathering, face coverings must be worn in accordance with CDPH. No, CDPH. Unless exemptions are applicable, people at gatherings may remove the face covering briefly to eat or drink, as long as they stay at least six feet from everyone outside. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Fuck Snopes! | ||
| Shut your mouth, Jamie! | ||
| You're a communist! | ||
| So here's my question. | ||
| Here's my question, Joe. | ||
| Singing, chanting, shouting, and physical exertion significantly increases the risk of COVID-19 because these activities increase the risk of release of respiratory droplets and fine aerosols in the air. | ||
| Because of this, singing, chanting, and shouting are strongly discouraged. | ||
| But if they occur, the following rules and recommendations apply. | ||
| All people who are singing and chanting should wear a face covering at all times while singing or chanting, including anyone who's leading a song or chant. | ||
| Because these activities pose a very high risk of COVID-19 transmission, face coverings are essential to reduce the spread. | ||
| People who are singing, chanting, or exercising are strongly encouraged to maintain physical distancing beyond six feet. | ||
| Okay, so Joe, first of all, yes, that's silly. | ||
| You win. | ||
| But here's the question. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I like hearing that. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Say it again, Jamie. | ||
| It says. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It says singing. | ||
| Snopes is wrong. | ||
| Snopes is wrong. | ||
| But here's the question, though. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Like, are they just listing this to try to be like a helicopter parent to say, this is what you should do? | ||
| Or is there actually an enforcement mechanism where they're going to have the LAPD knock on your door? | ||
| Well, there's too many people. | ||
| Right, they can't do it. | ||
| But they have done that to large gatherings in California. | ||
| They shut down the TikTok house, and these people are patriots. | ||
| They were having a party, and they shut down, I think the Sway House, I believe it's called, and they were having a party, and they cut the water off to the TikTok house. | ||
| That's rude. | ||
| Yeah, but that's crazy. | ||
| What if everybody had a shit? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Aren't they, when they shut it off, isn't it like these giant fucking parties where everybody's two inches away from each other, breathing on each other? | ||
| Yeah, but you know what? | ||
| That's America. | ||
| Hey, I'm not, listen, I'm not arguing against it. | ||
| I'm just asking the question. | ||
| In TikTok, you have to be near a person because it's a group dance. | ||
| So you can't, social distance, you're not in frame. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, how are you going to TikTok when you're six feet away from you? | |
| Kyle, these are 17-year-old millionaires. | ||
| They don't give a shit about COVID. Yeah, they're not going to be sick. | ||
| They really are 17-year-old millionaires. | ||
| They're trillionaires. | ||
| They're fine. | ||
| And they're TikTok-ing. | ||
| I love how they're like, hey, Thanksgiving in the park, 30% of California is homeless. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| See what I'm saying with Snopes? | ||
| Like, you've got to be careful with that. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| That's definitely... | ||
| What you said it is, is what it is. | ||
| I guess my only question is... | ||
| Snopes splits hairs. | ||
| The enforcement mechanism. | ||
| They'll say false if it doesn't align with their ideals. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Listen... | |
| I think you're 100% right. | ||
| My only point was, I also show caution when it's fucking Fox News. | ||
| Because, you know, Sean Hannity is not exactly this bastion of fucking intelligence. | ||
| I think when they print it on the screen, it has to be true. | ||
| I worked at... | ||
| They had me on Red Eye, the show there, and I used to wear a tie, and I got to say whatever I want. | ||
| I think it's a great institution. | ||
| Well, Tucker Carlson's doing something right. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| He's the number one show in the news. | ||
| Bill O'Reilly was number one beforehand. | ||
| He was number one for years. | ||
| He did a lot of things besides all of the rape. | ||
| That's the bad thing. | ||
| The loofah, the loofah thing. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Remember that? | |
| But people are complex. | ||
| I would like to pay the girl who got $32 million. | ||
| $34 million. | ||
| I'd like to give her $35 million. | ||
| To tell the story. | ||
| Just to find out what he did. | ||
| Wasn't it just like, you know, he was trying to flirt and he called a loofah a falafel by accident? | ||
| No, I think he did something. | ||
| That happened. | ||
| That definitely happened. | ||
| He did do that, but I do think that for $32 million, there's bodies buried. | ||
| Like, he did something so crazy. | ||
| Yeah, that's so much money. | ||
| That's a lot of money. | ||
| She has the possession in her possession tapes that are like True Detective season one. | ||
| I mean, it's bad. | ||
| It's gotta be crazy. | ||
| I mean, when you pay that much money, you're really trying to bury something. | ||
| You're guilty. | ||
| You gotta be. | ||
| You are guilty. | ||
| But he's still doing really well with his political show online, apparently. | ||
| Why are you making that face? | ||
| Because who the fuck's watching Bill O'Reilly? | ||
| Well, we researched this. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Millions of years. | ||
| Well, he does all these books now. | ||
| He writes all these books with that guy Martin Dugard, and the books are like, killing Stalin. | ||
| Killing Kennedy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Killing my mom. | |
| Killing Princess Di. | ||
| Killing the woman I paid $34 million to. | ||
| He makes a lot of money. | ||
| He does, yeah. | ||
| He makes a lot of money on those stupid books. | ||
| Yeah, they were bestsellers. | ||
| Because who reads? | ||
| Old people that hate lefties. | ||
| Which is why I'm surprised that his fucking thing online is doing well. | ||
| Because, you know, there's like, it was all geriatric people watching. | ||
| I think he probably gets commensurate numbers to you. | ||
| I think he's doing better than you. | ||
| I would be surprised if he's doing better than me in terms of viewership. | ||
| No, you're doing very well, but I really think he is. | ||
| And where's he primarily hosting his show? | ||
| Well, I don't know if he's on YouTube, but he's on BillOReilly.com, right? | ||
| We looked it up. | ||
| So it's his own website? | ||
| Yeah, I remember Jamie and I looked it up once. | ||
| It was about a year and a half ago. | ||
| We were stunned by the number of views on each page, on each video. | ||
| That's even more impressive if he did it on his own website because that's hard to do. | ||
| Usually you have to go to a thing that hosts it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like everybody knows, go to YouTube and see stuff or whatever. | ||
| Isn't it amazing that YouTube has a solid lockdown on that? | ||
| It is, yeah. | ||
| They are the number one platform on planet Earth for people just uploading videos. | ||
| There's no one even close. | ||
| And I don't think they're handling the responsibility of it well because they've tweaked algorithms to deprioritize what they call borderline outlets. | ||
| And that's you. | ||
| That's definitely me. | ||
| Now... | ||
| What makes you borderline? | ||
| Because you're not with a giant organization. | ||
| I really think that that's probably it. | ||
| The fact that I don't answer to anybody. | ||
| I'm my own person. | ||
| I could say whatever I want, whenever I want. | ||
| And simply put, they don't know what's going to come out of my mouth. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But let me push back on that. | ||
| They don't do anything to me. | ||
| Then I'm impressed. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| Seriously, I'm impressed by that then. | ||
| But think about that. | ||
| I mean, my videos get fucking insane numbers. | ||
| They really do. | ||
| They do really well. | ||
| So how is that? | ||
| That doesn't make sense. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| You have to talk to them. | ||
| But what I'm convinced of is that there's different levels to how much they prioritize you and how much the algorithm pushes you out to new people. | ||
| And, you know, I've actually talked about this. | ||
| We mentioned Jimmy Dore earlier. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yes. | |
| Tim and I have had a thousand conversations about this, where we know other channels that were similar size to us, and we were chugging along all at basically the same rate, and then out of nowhere, when I was gaining 30,000 or 40,000 new subscribers a month, it exploded to 6,000 thereabouts. | ||
| Is it possible that it's less nefarious, and that they made some sort of a deal with just political outlets across the board? | ||
| Well, that is it, because they admitted it. | ||
| They actually released it. | ||
| They have this thing where they tell you what they're going to do, and one of the things they said is, in order to combat fake news, they want to make sure that the stuff that gets recommended is the respected outlets, namely CNN, Fox News, MSNBC. I listen to your shit. | ||
| I watch your videos all the time. | ||
| They never get recommended to me. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's exactly it. | ||
| Why don't you go on the dark web? | ||
| Because then you're selling coke and pedo-jerk it off. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You want to be independent, but you're really independent. | ||
| Your videos get recommended occasionally. | ||
| I should be really honest about this. | ||
| But Jimmy Dores get recommended all the time to me. | ||
| It could just be that you watch more of him than me because, honestly, as long as you're a subscriber and you watch my stuff, then they will recommend it to you. | ||
| The issue is they don't recommend it that much to new viewers. | ||
| So it used to be if you're watching a CNN video or you're watching some other news outlet, they could recommend one of my videos because I used to get better views than they do. | ||
| Now they pump theirs out all the time and they surpass me. | ||
| So that would be non-religious. | ||
| So people have never looked at you at all. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So you're not getting that. | ||
| Right, that's right. | ||
| See, back, get this, during the 2016 election, 2016, I was gaining 30,000 to 40,000 subscribers a month. | ||
| Now it's like 6,000. | ||
| And other channels that are not deprioritized are still gaining that or more. | ||
| 40,000, 50,000. | ||
| Do you think there's, what happens if someone like CNN puts out information that's demonstrably false? | ||
| See, then that's, The next point that I was going to make, which is, it's ridiculous that they even have this notion that, like, well, these are the real outlets and these are the fake outlets. | ||
| Listen, you brought up Russiagate before. | ||
| From the beginning, I was saying, here's what's going to happen with Russiagate. | ||
| Absolutely nothing. | ||
| People were thinking that Donald Trump was going to get pulled out of... | ||
| I just followed the evidence, Joe! | ||
| It's not that difficult. | ||
| You just have to look at whatever... | ||
| Hey, don't... | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm getting mad. | ||
| Whatever the intelligence agencies say, usually it's bullshit. | ||
| These are the same people who lied us into the fucking Iraq war. | ||
| Now I'm supposed to listen to them when they tell me that the president's a Manchurian candidate? | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's an old saying, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. | ||
| They didn't present any real evidence. | ||
| It was just a bunch of screaming idiots like Rachel Maddow every night. | ||
| Did you see Ted Cruz cross-examining Comey about testimony about Russia, about evidence that was emails that were edited? | ||
| And the emails were edited to imply a completely different outcome than what the email actually said? | ||
| Yeah, I did not see that. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But that's a battle of smug motherfuckers there. | ||
| Comey versus Cruz. | ||
| It is, but I really respected Ted Cruz for that conversation. | ||
| It was stunning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was stunning. | ||
| It was stunning listening to them saying, you know, Comey was just basically, I don't recall that. | ||
| This is not what I'm aware of. | ||
| And, you know, Cruz reads off of the email. | ||
| He reads the actual real original email, and then he reads the email that was submitted as evidence and how it was edited. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| It's disturbing. | ||
| It's incredibly disturbing. | ||
| That someone in the intelligence community could get away with that. | ||
| Whoever did it. | ||
| Whoever edited that. | ||
| Just to make Trump look like a bad guy. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| They lie all the time, Joe. | ||
| Just because they're, you know, oh, they're official and they don't curse like I do or whatever. | ||
| And they seem like they're more relaxed when they talk. | ||
| They're liars. | ||
| And CNN oftentimes puts out stuff that's completely untrue. | ||
| All the mainstream media outlets do. | ||
| And there's, you know... | ||
| There's never a moment of reckoning where it's like, okay, well, that was fake news, actually. | ||
| And what the independent guys were saying was actually correct. | ||
| Was it you that was telling me that Brian Stelter was saying, don't listen to other news outlets? | ||
| It wasn't me, but I do know what you're talking about. | ||
| I was having a conversation with someone. | ||
| They were telling me that he literally was saying, don't listen to other news outlets because they're not going to tell you the truth. | ||
| We're going to tell you the truth. | ||
| That sounds like a cult thing, right? | ||
| Doesn't it? | ||
| It does sound like a cult thing. | ||
| But when they've been wrong and haven't told you the truth about a number of things that are provable. | ||
| Look at Syria. | ||
| There's another great example. | ||
| How long were they telling us about Syria? | ||
| That, you know, Assad did a gas attack against his own people. | ||
| Then you have whistleblowers who were doing the investigations who were like, this is not true at all. | ||
| And then they never correct themselves. | ||
| Meanwhile, then there's people like me and there's people like Jimmy who are like, they're wrong about this. | ||
| And we get deprioritized when we say stuff like that. | ||
| There's never a moment where it's like, oh, actually, they were right. | ||
| It's interesting because you have to stay independent. | ||
| And so does Jimmy. | ||
| There's no way Jimmy Dore could do that show if he was on some sort of a coordinated network. | ||
| Can't have a boss. | ||
| No way. | ||
| He's too wild. | ||
| I can't have one either. | ||
| I'm not going to listen to somebody tell me, say this or don't say this. | ||
| But Jimmy Dore, like you said, he spits fire. | ||
| He gets crazy. | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| He gets crazy. | ||
| He says some wild shit. | ||
| And, you know, like... | ||
| Because he's a comedian as well, you know? | ||
| I know, yeah, you can see that influence when he talks. | ||
| I would like a boss. | ||
| I would like to be sponsored by Chase Manhattan or Citigroup or... | ||
| And they pay well, I hear. | ||
| Exxon, a company with values. | ||
| I hear they pay well. | ||
| One of the best conspiracy theories from the podcast we did with Alex is they think that there's a woman's voice in one of the clips saying, relax, we're here, we're here. | ||
| It's actually me? | ||
| You had to double check on that last night. | ||
| You had to double check it? | ||
| I wanted to make sure. | ||
| I was like, maybe something slid in there that I didn't know about. | ||
| They think it was like an alien? | ||
| Someone's in my ear. | ||
| Like there's someone directing the show. | ||
| Someone from Spotify. | ||
| Like someone directing the show with Alex fucking Jones and Tim fucking Dylan and me. | ||
| That must drive you crazy that it couldn't be more obvious that there's no steering that ship and people are accusing you of like, obviously somebody's steering it. | ||
| It's the most ridiculous steering too. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It's me telling Alex, relax, we're here, relax, we're here. | |
| And they're like, it's a woman's voice. | ||
| You hear that? | ||
| Here's a woman's voice. | ||
| Like, I had a friend send this to me. | ||
| Cameron Haines. | ||
| Cameron Haines sent it to me. | ||
| He goes, play this. | ||
| He goes, what is that voice? | ||
| I go, that's me, motherfucker. | ||
| That's me going, relax. | ||
|
unidentified
|
We're here. | |
| Relax. | ||
| There's a woman's voice. | ||
| There's a woman's voice! | ||
| I love Spotify being like, listen, nothing's going to change about the show. | ||
| We are going to have a woman in your ear for three hours. | ||
| And she's going to tell people to relax. | ||
| She's going to tell people to relax, and she's just going to remind you that Spotify's here. | ||
| Other than that, nothing changes. | ||
| I saw your video on that with the pink hair and the... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they're fun. | ||
| The tech people are fun. | ||
| I mean, you've got to laugh at this. | ||
| You've got to enjoy it. | ||
| What I worry about is there's far too many people that aren't going to enjoy what's clearly the end of the country. | ||
| And treat it with laughter, and I think they're going to go out and try to kill each other and ruin businesses and ruin property, instead of just accepting that this was a good run, that we had a fun run as an empire, and now it's kind of coming apart. | ||
| But everything's not horrible. | ||
| There's still certain niceties. | ||
| It really is coming apart, for sure. | ||
| Filet-O-Fish. | ||
| It is coming apart. | ||
| I saw some violence today at one of the polls in North Carolina. | ||
| What do you got here, James? | ||
| Throwing it up there, as of this moment, which, whatever, it's almost 8.30, Trump is leading the popular vote, but not the electoral college. | ||
| Trump is ahead 26 million. | ||
| That's not going to hold. | ||
| 25 million. | ||
| There's a 0% chance that that holds. | ||
| Someone sounds like a fucking expert over here. | ||
| Have we gotten any more? | ||
| Can I see the rest of the states? | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Scroll down and see all the states. | ||
| Wait a minute, Wyoming went red. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| I can't believe that. | ||
| That's so odd. | ||
| What are you saying to Cheyenne, Wyoming? | ||
| Jamie, can you show me how much of the Texas vote is in by hovering over the Texas thing? | ||
| 63%. | ||
| Are you fucking kidding me? | ||
| Dude, that's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, but look how close it is. | ||
| Yeah, but Democrats are supposed to lose it by 15 points, Joe. | ||
| I know, but look at it. | ||
| 49 to 49.6 to 49.1. | ||
| That's real close. | ||
| I know, but it should be Donald Trump plus 15 there. | ||
| Yeah, because all my fucking asshole people moved here from California. | ||
| This is Joe Rogan's fault. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| It's not my fault, but people like me, the looting and the pandemic, so we're done. | ||
| We're out of here. | ||
| Missouri's blue? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Missouri? | |
| No, that's not going to hold. | ||
| How much is in? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think that's going to hold. | ||
| If Biden wins Texas, it's over, right? | ||
| Yes, there's no prayer for Trump if Biden wins Texas. | ||
| What if Biden wins Texas, Joe? | ||
| You've got to pack up and go home. | ||
| What do I do? | ||
|
unidentified
|
You gotta go back to L.A. He's gonna come on the podcast and he's gonna go back to L.A. We open the conference store. | |
| Barely speak coherently. | ||
| It was another... | ||
| You have a nice few months. | ||
| I think there's a reason why Texas is fun and I don't think you could have that with a Democrat. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| Yeah, but what's he gonna do? | ||
| He's not gonna force Texas to do... | ||
| The last Democrat was what? | ||
| Ann Richards here? | ||
| Last Democratic, what, governor? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, I have no idea. | ||
| Ann Richards. | ||
| I think it was Ann Richards. | ||
| Who seems like a Republican. | ||
| That's what happens in red states. | ||
| It's like Joe Manchin. | ||
| Joe Manchin is a West Virginia Democrat. | ||
| He's basically a Republican. | ||
| Look at Austin, disgusting and blue. | ||
| Just sitting there like a big blue zit in the middle of the city. | ||
| Dallas, all the big cities, Joe. | ||
|
unidentified
|
God damn it. | |
| Damn it. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| All the big cities go left and all the rural areas go right. | ||
| But isn't that the case with... | ||
| I mean, that's the whole reason why New York and California... | ||
| We were talking about that before, that big cities always go blue. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Usually they're younger. | ||
| People are closer together. | ||
| But why does that make people democratic? | ||
| What do you think that is? | ||
| I mean, listen, there's something to be said about if you live the kind of rural lifestyle, it's almost like, and I don't mean this in a derogatory way at all, but I'm saying, like, you're the townie of the area. | ||
| Sounds pretty derogatory to me. | ||
| I don't mean it like that, because I'm a townie. | ||
| I'm still in the place where I grew up, you know? | ||
| Just, I guess, not in a rural area, more in a more city, suburban type area. | ||
| You're saying that the people that live in cities are more civilized. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
| That's kind of what I heard. | ||
| Then it did not come out right. | ||
| No, I really think that there's something to do with population density. | ||
| It has a lot to do with it. | ||
| The closer you are to other people, you feel like, whoa, whoa, we've got to have some rules to make sure this thing kind of goes smoothly. | ||
| Whereas you don't need that many rules when the nearest person to you is five miles away. | ||
| You don't want people telling you what to do. | ||
| I'd like to get someone who really understands that to explain it. | ||
| Some sort of sociologist. | ||
| It's always been like that. | ||
| In cities, you need more government, right? | ||
| This is what Kyle said. | ||
| You need more government in cities. | ||
| There's an interdependence in cities that doesn't exist outside of them. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So when you have that interdependence, you need some type of regulatory whatever it is, action that enforces those things so that everybody benefits or the great majority of people benefit. | ||
| When you're in the suburbs or the rural areas, people are more likely to be like, hey, leave me the fuck alone. | ||
| Well, that's why it's even more fascinating that Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, was the governor at one point in time. | ||
| Yeah, because people had had it, right? | ||
| Rudy Giuliani got elected in New York when people had had it. | ||
| So I think when people have had it... | ||
| Well, they're going to have it after this. | ||
| They're going to have it after this. | ||
| There was 2,800 homicides the year Giuliani got in. | ||
| That's like eight a day. | ||
| And Giuliani got elected, and then what happened was that shift started decreasing. | ||
| But aren't they tracking higher than that now in New York? | ||
| They probably will. | ||
| I don't know if they're tracking higher than that, but the crime is skyrocketing. | ||
| Yeah, and de Blasio defunded the police. | ||
| Well, this whole idea of like, if you get rid of cops and give social workers the job of police, it's going to work out well, that seems to be a little childish. | ||
| Yeah, the de Blasio thing seemed more like an accounting trick. | ||
| Where he was trying to say to the activists, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I did the thing you wanted me to do, but he didn't really substantively address the funding for the police. | ||
| I sent you an article on that a while ago. | ||
| Right, so what is the... | ||
| Break it down for dummies. | ||
| We could try to pull up the article to see the details of it, but basically he just used... | ||
| He shuffled money from one part of the police department to another agency where he could say, oh, I defunded the police, but the money's being used for the same thing. | ||
| It is amazing how blue Texas looks. | ||
| I'm floored by that. | ||
| That's a political realignment that is wow if that happens. | ||
| Listen, they've been saying for a long time that this might happen. | ||
| I just didn't think it would happen this quickly. | ||
| I didn't think it would be by 2020 that this happens. | ||
| Because that would mean if Texas stays blue, right? | ||
| He's done. | ||
| Yeah, if Biden wins Texas, it's over. | ||
| No way. | ||
| There's no way Trump can win. | ||
| There's no path for Trump. | ||
| No path. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| If Trump loses Florida, it's over. | ||
| And how's he doing in Florida? | ||
| Slightly, but they say it's too close to Colby's winning. | ||
| I wish there was someone I could root for in this election. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I'm having fun in the idea that Trump could win again just because so many people that despise him I think are annoying. | ||
| But I don't really want him to win. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, you know what you're going to get, and it's chaos. | ||
| It's chaos. | ||
| It's chaos with Biden, too. | ||
| But it's a different kind of chaos. | ||
| He's a zombie. | ||
| His brain doesn't work. | ||
| But you don't worry about a tweet at 4am. | ||
| I love those tweets. | ||
| But then you get someone who you didn't elect who runs the country. | ||
| That's where it gets really weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, listen... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I mean, if Biden is incompetent... | ||
| You're saying so it's the people around him running the country. | ||
| I get what you're saying. | ||
| This is something that Tim Pool brought up, and I didn't think he was right, but I thought it was a weird thing to bring up. | ||
| An interesting thing I should say to bring up. | ||
| The 25th Amendment, the idea that the president's unfit. | ||
| If the president's unfit, that they could... | ||
| Exercise that with Biden. | ||
|
unidentified
|
No, no. | |
| First of all, Tim, they tried to do this. | ||
| There's Democrats who were talking about doing this with Trump. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And the point that I made and a lot of other people made is, once you open that door of like, oh, I think this person's mentally unfit, mentally incompetent, so I don't care what the voters said, I'm going to override them because I think I'm some sort of expert. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no shutting that door. | ||
| Every single president will have the opposing party say, we're going to go after him because he's not mentally fit. | ||
| Whether or not it's true. | ||
| Isn't that a thing where people who want to take over power, they look at the person in power and they try to find a way that they can do it, but they don't understand that that could be used on them? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| This is the argument that I was making to those dummies that were running Chaz in Seattle. | ||
| I was saying, do you understand now that you said you could take people's property by force... | ||
| You can enforce your own laws, you can make your own country inside of a country, and you can put up boundaries and borders, and you can enforce those laws with violence. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| Now you've opened up the door to someone doing that to you. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| Because they don't have to have any sort of legal precedent, they don't have to have any legislative powers, they just have to have force. | ||
| For some violence. | ||
| People struggle with doing the thought exercises of a universality to their actions. | ||
| And this is actually what I brought up earlier with Trump. | ||
| I always talk about the Obama campaign was spying on me. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| It's like, yeah, and the NSA is still spying on all Americans. | ||
| Maybe you should do something about that. | ||
| Right, like pardon Snowden. | ||
| Is Chaz done now officially? | ||
| Pardon Snowden, Assange as well. | ||
| Pardon Snowden, pardon Assange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but they won't do that. | ||
| You know, that's the case with that whole thing that you're talking about where people want to do something to someone and don't understand that those things can happen back to them. | ||
| That always applies to violence. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| People say, I'll go punch that guy in the head. | ||
| Stop there. | ||
| It doesn't end there. | ||
| It doesn't stop there. | ||
| The violence is a long domino. | ||
| The violence from the Civil War, that lasted for decades where people were still murdering people from the other side that killed their kinfolk. | ||
| That's the whole punch a Nazi. | ||
| Everybody was like, punch Nazis. | ||
| That was the worst. | ||
| By people who should never even think about punching anybody. | ||
| They were all running around punching Nazis. | ||
| Don't... | ||
| You don't know how to punch. | ||
| You have to think about violence. | ||
| And I'm curious to know what your thoughts are on this in a principled way. | ||
| So what I mean by that is you have to have a standard. | ||
| And the standard that I've always defaulted to is only in cases of self-defense from imminent attack, basically. | ||
| And I think that doctrine works well in your personal life. | ||
| And I think that doctrine works well as a foreign policy for the entire country. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That, hey, the only time we're gonna send people to fight and die is when there's really some legit threat of attack against us. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I agree 100%. | ||
| But I also think that the people that are calling for violence that don't understand violence, they're so crazy. | ||
| You're literally like a child who is calling for a fight with someone who knows how to fight. | ||
| Like, if you call for violence in this country, there are... | ||
| What are the number of veterans in this country? | ||
| I mean, it's got to be more than a million. | ||
| There are so many people in this country that really understand violence. | ||
| And they're not the ones calling for violence. | ||
| They're not the punching Nazi people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The people that really understand violence and have seen violence and have committed violence for their country, those are the motherfuckers that you break glass in case of war. | ||
| You need them. | ||
| And people don't understand that. | ||
| These people running around calling for violence, calling for a revolution. | ||
| You are going to open a door that you can never close, and when those fucking soldiers come pouring out of that door, and they want to defend what they think is an attack on their freedoms and their country, you're fucked. | ||
| Yeah, and again, that's why I'm happy to get back to the point I made earlier, that we have so many good distractions that I don't think we're going to get to the point of the Civil War. | ||
| God, I hope not. | ||
| I think Netflix kind of sucks recently. | ||
| A lot of shows are not that good. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| I would rather do a Civil War than listen to Fallon. | ||
| What about Cobra? | ||
| I actually agree with that. | ||
| I agree with that, yeah. | ||
| What about Cobra? | ||
| I think he agrees with that. | ||
| I think Fallon is like, please. | ||
| I know, please. | ||
| Give me a musket. | ||
| I know I'm not good. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Cobra Kai. | |
| If you watch Cobra Kai. | ||
| Cobra Kai's great. | ||
| It's fucking great. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| There's a few things that are good. | ||
| Cobra Kai's like a time warp. | ||
| It's really good, yeah. | ||
| It's like an 80s movie. | ||
| Breaking news. | ||
| Breaking news. | ||
| Marijuana legalization referendum way ahead in New Jersey. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Fuck you, Chris Christie! | ||
| How about that, Chris? | ||
| Well, listen, here's the reality. | ||
| Chris Christie's a healthy guy and he wants to keep people healthy. | ||
| He beat COVID. That should be the end of the lockdown right there. | ||
|
unidentified
|
He did beat COVID. He did beat COVID. I want whatever drugs they got. | |
| Well, I have a friend who's 80, and he just beat it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Beat it with nothing. | ||
| Did he take the drug? | ||
| He didn't take shit. | ||
| Took some IV vitamins. | ||
| Said he was sick for four days. | ||
| 80. Wowzer. | ||
| New Jersey government Phil Murphy is highly confident marijuana will be legal. | ||
| Look at him clapping. | ||
| I'm gonna get high. | ||
| So, Joe, let me give you... | ||
| High as fuck. | ||
| That's what he's saying right now. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| Let me give you... | ||
| I'll tell you about the direct ballot initiatives if you want, Joe. | ||
| We got weed in a bunch of places. | ||
| So we got legalizing weed in Arizona. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Legalizing weed in Montana. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Woo! | |
| And in New Jersey. | ||
| That's three. | ||
| And then also I think we have South Dakota and Mississippi are voting on medical marijuana. | ||
| Not legal recreational, but medical. | ||
| They don't even have medical there yet. | ||
| And then apparently the polls show that all five of those are likely to pass. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Go Montana! | ||
| This gets to a point in our last podcast we spoke about this. | ||
| Direct ballot initiatives... | ||
| There's never been a better idea because usually when you put things directly to the people, they're overwhelmingly reasonable and sensible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| DC Initiative 81, decriminalize psychedelic plants. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Look at the numbers. | ||
| 76%. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, oh. | |
| In Oregon, they're holding on decriminalizing all drugs. | ||
| All drugs. | ||
| In small amounts. | ||
| But look at this. | ||
| That means in DC you're going to be able to get mushrooms. | ||
| Finally. | ||
| How did the initiative do to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer? | ||
| Where is that? | ||
| 82%? | ||
| Who was it that... | ||
| It was Alex Jones who said that it was an FBI organization and that two guys turned out to be FBI informants. | ||
| Yeah, two of the guys were FBI informants. | ||
| He called it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| John Jones. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Alex Jones called it. | ||
| Well, this is what the FBI does all the time. | ||
| They go into a mosque and they go, here's a bomb. | ||
| And then they come back in and they go, that guy was working. | ||
| I mean, this is what they do. | ||
| They entrap people. | ||
| This is how they operate. | ||
| They did it to that guy in Dallas. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The FBI did that. | |
| Of course they did. | ||
| They gave him a bomb that didn't even work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this is the way they operate. | ||
| And this is why, like, Boston bombing and all these things that are weird and you don't know anything about them, a lot of it's because the FBI doesn't want you to know how they recruit informants and how they operate. | ||
| They don't want to know. | ||
| It's dirty. | ||
| It's dirty. | ||
| Seriously a dirty business. | ||
| Incredibly dirty. | ||
| And that's why I go crazy when people cite the CIA or the FBI as if they're these objective, like, serious people bodies. | ||
| No, they're incredibly political. | ||
| And they've been involved in a whole bunch of shady shit, and they still are to this day. | ||
| It's not like it all stops. | ||
| When the CIA is tweeting, like, gay pride, or, you know, it's, like, insane. | ||
| Like, the FBI is like, yes, queen! | ||
| Like, it's just... | ||
| It's absurd, and then mainstream liberals fall for this horseshit. | ||
| It's like corporations doing Black Lives Matter stuff. | ||
| Like, okay, you've got black people working for you, and you're paying them a wage that they can't even live on. | ||
| Do their Black Lives Matter? | ||
| Raise their fucking wages. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, that's why I support Tim Cook and Apple, because they're not doing anything wrong to our people, you know? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| A little slavery never hurt anybody. | ||
| Is anybody ever going to address that, you think? | ||
| I mean, I really do believe, not to beat that old dead horse, but if one cell phone company came along and made a cell phone and started shitting on all these other companies that make these phones using slave labor, say, no, our phones are made by union workers, they cost more, we make less, but we can sleep good at night. | ||
| Yeah, so I don't know because I feel like it has to be addressed at the top level. | ||
| That's one you can't do at an individual level or the bottom up. | ||
| Like, market forces are not enough to fight something like that. | ||
| You actually need action from people with authority and power. | ||
| But it's also such a complex thing to make a cell phone. | ||
| It seems like... | ||
| And also you have to get in in Verizon and AT&T. Remember, like, Verizon had a deal with Huawei. | ||
| They're about to go nationwide with Verizon. | ||
| And then the government came in and said... | ||
| And then, boom, they're gone. | ||
| And now they're banned. | ||
| And you can't even buy routers and modems. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Actually, they're doing, I think, some sort of antitrust case against Google now. | ||
| The government sued Google. | ||
| I'm not sure if it's to break them up or whatever, but... | ||
| I think it's about their search engine. | ||
| I think that, you know, listen, we do have a lot of things that are effective monopolies, and that's a real problem. | ||
| That's a real problem. | ||
| The consolidation of power... | ||
| Well, we could certainly say that about social media companies. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You could really say that about Twitter, that Twitter, you know, through no fault of their own, is a monopoly. | ||
| It's not like they bought out all the competition. | ||
| But somehow or another, they made something that was so effective that nobody else really came up with a viable alternative, and they've become the number one source of distributing hateful messages. | ||
| And what's scary is how much mainstream journalists view their job as to run to the mods to tell them when somebody's acting up or saying something that's not true. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And I know you and Glenn talked about this. | ||
| This is something I've talked about a lot as well. | ||
| I mean, it is the case that now the new public square is Twitter, Facebook, these big social media companies. | ||
| So, honestly, if we believe in the principle of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, you should expand that and basically treat these companies like public utilities and expand free speech protections to make them apply to everybody. | ||
| The only time, like, listen, direct threats of violence, we all agree you can't have that. | ||
| But outside of that, I mean, if somebody's just... | ||
| Doxing. | ||
| No doxing, no threats, direct threats. | ||
| Doxing, direct threats of violence. | ||
| Harassment. | ||
| Distribution of someone, like if someone breaks into your iCloud and gets all your dick pics, Kyle. | ||
| Can't do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can't do that. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| That's wrong. | ||
| That's wrong. | ||
| But other than that, yeah, I agree. | ||
| And I think the problem is that the medium is so flawed that it's a great way if everybody plays by some real moral ethical standards of just don't say anything to someone you wouldn't say to their face and try to do it in a kind way and don't try to hurt people's feelings. | ||
| We could all act in that. | ||
| Even if you disagree with someone, that's fucking stupid. | ||
| This is why it's dumb. | ||
| But people, when they read mean things, it literally does hurt them. | ||
| It gives them pain. | ||
| And we discredit that pain. | ||
| We dismiss that pain as long as it's convenient to us. | ||
| Now, if someone is giving that pain out to someone who's saying something that we don't agree with, then we fully support it. | ||
| But if someone is dishing that pain out to someone who we think is a protected person, we get very upset. | ||
| We get very offended and we apply different standards. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I mean, listen, I just don't read it. | ||
| Do you read your stuff? | ||
| No, I don't read anything. | ||
| Because when you hit a certain point, it's like, oh, this is not adding anything to my life. | ||
| I would be an insane person. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Like every time I have a podcast that's controversial. | ||
| There's thousands of people that... | ||
| You can't escape it because then the LA Times will write an article and blame you for things and you're like... | ||
| I think it's important to read all of the negative comments and then respond in kind to them. | ||
| LA Times will write an article... | ||
| I want to say the LA Times. | ||
| Some publications will write an article based on a couple of mean tweets. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Take a couple of mean tweets and pretend that they're relevant and write a whole article about it. | ||
| Ignoring any positive tweets or negative tweets or... | ||
| Narrative farming. | ||
| Or tweets, rather, that are in conflict with that. | ||
| Yeah, that's narrative farming. | ||
| They want a certain narrative and they're going to search it out. | ||
| But I support that, too, because that's the First Amendment. | ||
| That's freedom of speech. | ||
| They can do whatever they want. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I just think that we have this weird time. | ||
| We're in this weird time. | ||
| This sort of adolescent stage of information distribution where it's so... | ||
| Like, with Alan Levenovitz calls, processed information, the way it's bad for you, the same way processed food is bad for you. | ||
| And I felt like that was a really great way of making an analogy. | ||
| Because it's that... | ||
| Processed food, we all agree. | ||
| It's like, you can eat it. | ||
| It's not good for you. | ||
| If you do it all the time, you're going to get sick. | ||
| And that's the same thing with processed information. | ||
| If you're a person now, particularly during COVID, it's a huge issue because many people were, they really were detached from the outside world, especially people with compromised immune systems who are scared to go outside, older people. | ||
| They just only communicate with people online. | ||
| And so you're just doing, you're communicating with people through Facebook messages. | ||
| And you know, and you're just fucking arguing with people and no one is, you don't see anybody. | ||
| No one's in front of you. | ||
| And how many people are even good at that? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| We're so bad at that. | ||
| Just talking face-to-face, people are bad now. | ||
| Kellyanne Conway just came out and said, you will hear from the president tonight. | ||
| Oh, that means he's probably going to try to declare victory. | ||
| I'm wondering if that is the case, but Kellyanne is saying that on Twitter. | ||
| Oh, Texas went red, bitch! | ||
| There you go. | ||
| That's more what I thought would happen. | ||
| Listen, I'm not even rooting for anybody. | ||
| This is one of the reasons why this is fun. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't sound like you are. | ||
| Yeah, really. | ||
| Texas went red! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Woo! | |
| I'm neutral. | ||
| 66% though, there could be more. | ||
| Yeah, but it won't be. | ||
| It's going to lean red. | ||
| I'll tell you right now, that's maybe the last election. | ||
| Republicans can safely say they have Texas. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, yeah. | |
| They barely got it now. | ||
| They barely got it now, man. | ||
| We're nowhere near. | ||
| What is the numbers, Jamie? | ||
| Go back to that as far as percentage counted. | ||
| Yeah, it's only 66%. | ||
| They could lose it already still. | ||
| Look, 34% is a lot of fucking people. | ||
| Dude, it's like 4-3 to 4-2, 3-9. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| 34% is a lot. | ||
| And imagine all these fucking liberals out here that came with me from California that got off work. | ||
| It's all Tom Segura. | ||
| It's his fault. | ||
| He hasn't moved here yet. | ||
| They haven't moved here yet. | ||
| So Florida's going to Trump. | ||
| Wow, Kansas went red. | ||
| How weird. | ||
| Florida's going to Trump. | ||
| I think the ones that are in bold red colors, they've called. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm kidding about Kansas. | ||
| Of course it's red. | ||
| Now, what about Ohio? | ||
| So it looks like Florida's red. | ||
| See, Ohio, that's more reflecting what the polls were. | ||
| It showed Trump a little bit up. | ||
| Now Trump's up at Ohio. | ||
| So Trump wins. | ||
| Let me see this. | ||
| Ohio, Florida, Texas. | ||
| What else does he have to win? | ||
| Pennsylvania. | ||
| He needs Pennsylvania. | ||
| He's got to get PA. Pennsylvania doesn't look good. | ||
| If he doesn't get PA, can he get anything else to make up for PA? Uh... | ||
| Go to Pennsylvania again, please? | ||
| Maybe, but it's not possible. | ||
| He could jack Nevada, but that's not going to be good enough. | ||
| He's way off in Pennsylvania, though. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Only 17% reporting now. | ||
| Yeah, but no, no, no. | ||
| Actually, that's not terrible because I think they count the mail-ins first there. | ||
| Well, look at the numbers. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Let me fact check that. | ||
| It's only 17%, but he's off by, what is that, 50,000? | ||
| There's time. | ||
| 60,000? | ||
| There's time. | ||
| 60,000. | ||
| There's a lot of time. | ||
| There's a lot left to report. | ||
| A lot of farmers. | ||
| What about California? | ||
| How's California looking? | ||
| Pennsylvania. | ||
| Pennsylvania. | ||
| Still open. | ||
| Go to California? | ||
| It's nothing there yet. | ||
| Oh, excuse me. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Go to Ohio. | |
| You're right about Pennsylvania, Joe. | ||
| You're right about Pennsylvania. | ||
| They count. | ||
| The results are released from election day first, and then they do the mail-in. | ||
| So if Biden already has a lead, then that's looking good for Biden. | ||
| It's a problem. | ||
| And if Biden wins Pennsylvania, he's got it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's it. | |
| Well, the weird thing is, though, Pennsylvania only has 17% reported. | ||
| Pennsylvania might be one of those ones where... | ||
| They're a slow counter. | ||
| They're a slow counter. | ||
| They are. | ||
| Because they had to wait to count the mail-ins. | ||
| Is there any... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Or... | |
| We see the governor of Pennsylvania driving a Ferrari in two weeks and Biden wins. | ||
| Is there... | ||
| Yeah, with a new laptop. | ||
| He's got a fucking... | ||
| Covered in diamonds. | ||
| Is there any way that Trump wins the popular vote and loses the electoral college? | ||
| Less than a 1% chance. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What's the popular vote right now? | ||
| What are we at, Jamie? | ||
| It doesn't matter what it is now. | ||
| It's not going to reflect what it is at the end. | ||
| I know, but I just want to know. | ||
| I've got a question. | ||
| He's ahead. | ||
| 1.2 million. | ||
| He's ahead by a million. | ||
| You don't know shit, Kyle. | ||
| I know a lot. | ||
| This is kind of looking like Biden. | ||
| Looks like Biden if he gets Pennsylvania. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Not for nothing. | ||
| Right now, this is not terrible for Trump. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The only issue for him as of this moment is Pennsylvania. | ||
| Dun, dun, dun. | ||
| What if he gets Nevada, Arizona... | ||
| He's not going to get Michigan. | ||
| What if he gets Michigan? | ||
| He can't win. | ||
| No way he can win without Pennsylvania, Florida. | ||
| Those two are super important. | ||
| He's got Florida. | ||
| He's got Florida. | ||
| It looks like he's got Florida. | ||
| But if he loses Pennsylvania, that's a wrap. | ||
| That's a wrap. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| There's really no other path. | ||
| They're lying and saying, oh, maybe we can win Nevada. | ||
| They're not winning Nevada. | ||
| He's more than eight points down in Nevada. | ||
| Let's see Nevada. | ||
| What's Nevada right now? | ||
| I'm saying in the polls. | ||
| They didn't even close yet. | ||
| It's so weird, man. | ||
| It's all so weird. | ||
| Let's do a monarchy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Ha! | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Every year this is enough already. | ||
| Let's do a monarchy. | ||
| Let's just do a king and a queen. | ||
| Like the king of Thailand? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah! | |
| That kind of deal? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It's an official concubine. | ||
| Somebody that can figure it out. | ||
| You want me to give you the best numbers for Trump? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'll give you the best numbers for Trump. | ||
| There's some evidence out there that he's still got it. | ||
| He's still got a shot. | ||
| So, when pollsters ask, are you better or worse off than you were four years ago? | ||
| 50% say better, only 34% say worse. | ||
| That's crazy, because you gotta be worse than you were eight months ago. | ||
| That's what I'm saying too, but this is what the poll shows. | ||
| An NBC News, Wall Street Journal poll. | ||
| It's totally legit. | ||
| The last time an incumbent lost... | ||
| Better polled at 37% and worse polled at 40%. | ||
| And that was George H.W. Bush in 1992. It's tricky. | ||
| There's also a big enthusiasm gap. | ||
| So only 46% of Biden supporters strongly support him. | ||
| 66% of Trump supporters strongly support him. | ||
| I'm amazed at the 46% of Biden supporters. | ||
| I think 39% of them are lying. | ||
| Yeah, most of them are lying. | ||
| Yeah, they just hate Trump. | ||
| They like Kamala and they hate Trump. | ||
| Yeah, I think they'd have a better chance if Kamala was on the ticket in the front. | ||
| I think it was Kamala versus Trump. | ||
| They'd have a better shot. | ||
| You said it already yourself. | ||
| This is really just somebody who's not Trump. | ||
| That's the whole mindset. | ||
| Right, but Kamala Harris, at least we call her Kamala. | ||
| That's rude. | ||
| It's Kamala. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Son of a bitch. | ||
| Kamala. | ||
| Not like the wrestler from back in the day. | ||
| Kamala. | ||
| Kamala. | ||
| I think she'd have a better shot on her own. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because she got absolutely obliterated in the primary. | ||
| Yeah, but that was because Tulsi sank her back. | ||
| It wasn't just Tulsi. | ||
| She also went from pretending to be, like, a lefty like Bernie Sanders and talking about healthcare for everybody, and then by the end of the campaign, she was begging for Donald Trump to get banned off Twitter as if that's some sort of, like, principled stand. | ||
| Yeah, what was that about? | ||
| She has no political instincts, and the idiots around her were like, hey, use this as your main issue. | ||
| Like, get him banned from Twitter. | ||
| She's just so used to putting people in jail. | ||
| She's like, put him in Twitter jail. | ||
| Do you see that weird conversation she had with Rachel Maddow where she pretended to see the fly on Mike Pence's head and was laughing about it, but it's so obvious that it's fake? | ||
| It's the weirdest conversation. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| Did you see when Colbert was asking her about her strong lines of attack against Biden? | ||
| It was a debate. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| He's like, so you didn't mean what you were saying? | ||
|
unidentified
|
It was a debate. | |
| And he let her off the hook. | ||
| It's like, at least bullshit us well. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Don't give us that. | ||
| That's a crazy thing. | ||
| Imagine a debate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Before I let you go... | ||
| If you noticed the fly on Vice President Pence's head at the time during the debate or if that was something that only... | ||
|
unidentified
|
We could see it at home. | |
| Could you see it sitting next to him? | ||
| Watch this. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Look at this. | |
| Oh, I made that up. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Did you have feelings about... | |
| Did you have the instinct to... | ||
| Hard-hitting journalism. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You know, Rachel... | |
| Ugh, that is... | ||
| I just, you know, I think that it's important that we kind of find a way, all of us, to move on. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| That's the fakest laugh I've ever heard in my life. | ||
| That's like a producer laugh when you're doing a sitcom run-through and they've heard the jokes... | ||
| I mean, like, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell have so much more integrity than these people. | ||
| Let's get real! | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| There's a long history of flies landing on candidates in elections or in debates. | ||
| One landed on Hillary. | ||
| Didn't one land on Hillary in a debate with Trump? | ||
| And there's another one. | ||
| There's another one in the past. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, fuck. | |
| It's happened with Obama before, too. | ||
| Mm, did it? | ||
|
unidentified
|
It has. | |
| And I remember Alex Jones saying that's evidence that he's a demon. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Pfft! | |
| Pfft! | ||
| He said that and then he went and he was like, Hillary smells like sulfur. | ||
| Yes, yes, that's it. | ||
| He said that. | ||
| Hillary smells like sulfur. | ||
| I know people that have been close to her and it's the smell of sulfur. | ||
| Did you see the guy, someone took him saying all those things and put it in a song? | ||
| I did see that and it was hilarious. | ||
| There's a fly. | ||
| It lands on Obama's lip. | ||
| I mean, how funny is that? | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| It's weird that flies land on people in debates, and then we make a big deal of it, and that becomes the number one topic. | ||
| Right, as opposed to the substance, the policy of what they're discussing. | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| That's boring. | ||
| That fly lands it on a Pence's head. | ||
| He's a piece of shit. | ||
| I do blame the media, though. | ||
| Do people even understand policy? | ||
| Like, if somebody came up to me and were like, what? | ||
| I would be like, wait, what? | ||
| It's so hard to understand the intricacies of a particular policy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's so difficult for most people... | ||
| That are working and they have kids and they're trying to get by to really know. | ||
| Like, I mean, healthcare. | ||
| Healthcare being explained to anyone, it's crazy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where's the money going? | ||
| Where's the money going? | ||
| Nobody knows. | ||
| I think you're definitely right about that, but also wrong in one sense, which is... | ||
| People, generally, their gut instinct is usually correct about the direction we should take the country. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's true. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, oh, we've been in Afghanistan for 19 years. | ||
| Should we still be there? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Like, that's what people say. | ||
| Yeah, but then if you tell them, yeah, but we're getting the medals for the phone, they go, oh... | ||
| And they go back to work. | ||
| But they don't say that. | ||
| If you sat down with them and go, we're getting the medals for the phone there. | ||
| They go, right, okay. | ||
| But the argument they really use is, we're fighting for your freedom or something. | ||
| So if you said, is slave labor good? | ||
| They'd go, no. | ||
| Okay, give me your phone. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah, no, I think, you know, like healthcare is another one. | ||
| If you bring up healthcare, you think, hey, should everybody in the country have healthcare? | ||
| Yes. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yes. | |
| Where does that money come from? | ||
| Every other developed country has health care for their people. | ||
| Oh, they say. | ||
| It actually saves money. | ||
| That's something that... | ||
| But I think so. | ||
| If you ask that question, I think you're 110% right. | ||
| But if you phrase it another way and you're like... | ||
| Socialized medicine. | ||
| Or should you not be able to get private insurance? | ||
| People would say, no, I don't want that. | ||
| Right, that's right. | ||
| It is all in the framing. | ||
| You can get whatever answer you want. | ||
| If I really felt like my taxes were going to good, I'd feel good about paying taxes. | ||
| I always said that too. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I mean, that's the problem that people have. | ||
| Instead, it goes to Wall Street bailouts, military industrial complex. | ||
| Also, you don't get a receipt. | ||
| They don't show you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, if you get a receipt... | ||
| Imagine if Americans could opt in on what you put your money... | ||
| Like, I want all my money to go to education. | ||
| Like, you know, a certain person... | ||
| Like, then you realize what people give a fuck about and what they don't give a fuck about. | ||
| And you vote for that. | ||
| Vote for where your taxes go. | ||
| And that's actually why I think in many other, like, European countries, they don't necessarily view taxes the same way that we do, because they actually tangibly see what they're getting for that money. | ||
| They see that they get the healthcare. | ||
| They see that they get the education. | ||
| They see that they have, you know, paid vacation time by law, for example. | ||
| Does every other country, every big country, have socialized medicine other than us? | ||
| Yes, every other developed country has one version or another of a universal health case. | ||
| Yes, they vary in terms of how they do it. | ||
| So here, I'll give you an example. | ||
| Like the UK, for example, they have what's called the National Health Service, NHS. And basically, that's public funding of public hospitals, public doctors, public institutions. | ||
| So in other words, everything is the government when you go to the NHS and when you go to the doctor, right? | ||
| And then there's examples like, I think Canada's like this and France is like this, where you have public funding of private institutions. | ||
| So you have private doctors, they have their own practices, you can have private hospitals, it's their own thing, but it's funded through tax dollars. | ||
| So that's a little bit different in how they structure it. | ||
| So there's various ways to do it and get to universal healthcare, but the connecting tissue is funded through taxes, publicly funded. | ||
| And that's... | ||
| You know, that creates some problems of its own, right? | ||
| Like what? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Well, if you have in the UK, for example, they have people coming in when you don't have the tight immigration standards, you have people coming in from other countries getting operations that haven't paid into the system at all. | ||
| Well, there's an old saying. | ||
| That becomes a problem. | ||
| Someone sounds like a Brexit fan. | ||
| You can either have a welfare state and borders or no welfare state and no borders. | ||
| So then why do you have the squad and AOC and all these people? | ||
| Did I mess that up? | ||
| Bernie Sanders said the same thing about immigration. | ||
| He said open borders is a Koch brothers proposal. | ||
| A Koch brothers proposal, that's right. | ||
| Everything Trump has said about immigration was uttered by Bill Clinton and a lot of it by Barack Obama. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Why is this identity politics gone so insane on the left that you can't have an actual conversation about immigration depressing wages without calling people Nazis? | ||
| Social media. | ||
| With social media you could shut someone down by simply saying that they're racist or they're a Nazi. | ||
| But it does seem designed like that AOC and all these people are pro-open borders and it seems like for what... | ||
| But I would actually contest that. | ||
| I don't think they're actually for open borders. | ||
| Well, they say they are. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Thank you. | |
| She said I'm for open borders? | ||
| Any curbing of immigration, the discussion of it is shut down immediately by her. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| I agree that the discussion is usually shut down. | ||
| Or it's de facto open borders. | ||
| If they don't say open borders, they say, well, you could come over and show up for a hearing, but you're not going to show up for a hearing because we let you in. | ||
| So you could say it's not open borders, but it's de facto open borders if there's no enforcement. | ||
| So she's against any type of enforcement. | ||
| So if I said tomorrow, there's no enforcement for drunk drivers, but hey, Don't drive drunk. | ||
| That's de facto pro-drunk driving. | ||
| I think the distinction they make is criminally punishable versus civil punishment. | ||
| And so they say, don't treat it like the criminal matter. | ||
| Treat it more like a civil matter. | ||
| Now, overall, listen, I'm not... | ||
| Yeah, how do you get money from people, though, that come over to the country? | ||
| How do you treat it like a civil matter? | ||
| As in you don't lock them up in a cage, necessarily. | ||
| So what does happen? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You'd have to ask them. | ||
| I don't have the same position they have. | ||
| But I'm saying that's the problem with a lot of people when you look at that flank of the Democratic Party and you go, it would be great to have health care and all these things. | ||
| However, you can't just have porous borders, no enforcement. | ||
| It's like crazy to think you could do that. | ||
| It is sort of overstated, though, how much they've put on this issue. | ||
| It's not like Democrats, when they get in their local meetings, are like, we sure should. | ||
| Open the borders. | ||
| They're talking more about health care. | ||
| But I will tell you this. | ||
| It is the reason that Trump won, and it is the most popular issue. | ||
| If you look at the numbers, and Ann Coulter puts all these numbers up all the time, well over 70% of people, blacks, Hispanics, everybody, including recent immigrants, favor curbing immigration. | ||
| They do not want just unfettered immigration. | ||
| That's pretty proven every single time the question is asked. | ||
| And Obama broke the deportation record. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Obama deported more people than Trump deported. | ||
| I just want I'm just wondering why it's become this hot button issue where everybody who wants to talk about it is a racist Nazi when literally Obama understood that you needed a border. | ||
| It's real simple. | ||
| It's real simple. | ||
| Trump is president. | ||
| Trump's a Republican. | ||
| Trump's already been labeled a racist. | ||
| Then you have these cages. | ||
| You see people in the cages. | ||
| It looks terrible. | ||
| And you see children being separated from their parents. | ||
| It seems terrible. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It is. | |
| But supporting any sort of curbing of immigration. | ||
| It supports that. | ||
| So it's already been established. | ||
| See what I'm saying? | ||
| I do see what you're saying. | ||
| Listen, I think that... | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| People should be clear. | ||
| No, I don't support totally open borders. | ||
| Then you literally don't have a country. | ||
| So you can't be in favor of that. | ||
| But should we have a process to get in here? | ||
| Should the process make sense and be humane? | ||
| Should we... | ||
| I do think that the thing about kids in cages, they were in cages under the previous administration, and they're in cages under this administration. | ||
| I do think it's a genuine humanitarian concern when people see that and they're like, oh man, I don't think that looks good. | ||
| No, that's a horrible thing that shouldn't ever happen. | ||
| And I should say real clearly, when I say Trump's been established as being racist, I mean by them. | ||
| It's a narrative. | ||
| He did launch his campaign by saying the thing, what did he say? | ||
| About Mexicans? | ||
| About the Mexicans. | ||
| They're criminals, they're rapists. | ||
| I assume some are good people. | ||
| No, he was saying the ones that sneak over here illegally. | ||
| There's a lot of gang members that sneak over here illegally. | ||
| But that's not even backed up by the evidence. | ||
| That's demagoguery. | ||
| That's not even true. | ||
| When you're talking about sheer numbers, or that there are some that come over here that are criminals? | ||
| There are some, but his argument was not that there are some. | ||
| He said they're criminals, they're rapists, and I quote, I assume some are good people. | ||
| So in other words, he flipped it. | ||
| You're saying, yeah, they come in here. | ||
| I'm saying the other thing. | ||
| Right, you're saying some of them are criminals and rapists. | ||
| He's saying the default is they're criminals and rapists, and I assume some are good people. | ||
| But let's be real clear why they're criminals. | ||
| They're criminals because they don't have anything going on in their country, and they come over here because we have crazy drug laws. | ||
| And the drug war, that's right. | ||
| That's the whole thing. | ||
| If you legalize drugs, and it sounds crazy to people that don't want their kids to be hooked on drugs, and I have kids, and I don't want my kids to be hooked on drugs. | ||
| But if you legalize drugs, you would essentially take the legs off of organized crime. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's literally what funded Al Capone. | ||
| That's literally what funded all the moonshine runners. | ||
| It was the fact that it was illegal. | ||
| And it propped up organized crime in this country. | ||
| Isn't so much of the police state that we have kind of, I guess, dependent on these silly laws being enforced? | ||
| And a lot of people are drawing a salary enforcing those laws? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| A big part of what keeps marijuana illegal is the prison guards' unions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They try to keep... | ||
| They want jobs. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| They want jobs. | ||
| They want people in jail, which is crazy if you really think about it. | ||
| We just get to a problem where it's like there's not enough jobs right now, and that's a real problem. | ||
| And if you unwind, which you should, all these unfair systems, you're going to have a hell of a lot of people with nothing to do. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| You're going to have a hell of a lot of people who could sell weed. | ||
| Look what's going on in Colorado. | ||
| There's a lot of people legally that are selling weed. | ||
| They're just prisoners, OnlyFans. | ||
| We're former prisoners, guards, and now we've got a podcast. | ||
| And now we sell pot. | ||
| Now we do it. | ||
| Listen, there's a lot of things that people can do. | ||
| The idea that the thing they're doing now is the only thing they can do is ridiculous. | ||
| We're treating them like they're children. | ||
| We're treating human beings in prison. | ||
| When you're talking about private prisons and you're talking about people generating money by people in jail, you're treating human beings like organic batteries that generate coins for you. | ||
| It's literally what it's like. | ||
| It's the most disgusting thing that we've ever done as a culture, is make it so there's more laws that keep people in jail because you can make money off those people in jail. | ||
| It's one of the darkest things we do. | ||
| By the way, I think it would have been great if, you know, Trump, he might win a second term, but I'm saying, if he decided, we spoke about this, just legalize marijuana. | ||
| Take it off as a Schedule 1 substance, or at least decriminalize it. | ||
| That would have been awesome. | ||
| The problem is, there's so many people on the right that don't want that. | ||
| Only evangelical Christians, and he's already got them locked up. | ||
| No, no, no, it's a lot of fucking hard-working, right-wing. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Ted Nugent, man. | ||
| Me and Ted Nugent got into it over pot. | ||
| You know, because he's like one of those guys that thinks like, you know, hard-working, hard-playing Americans, you don't want pot, you don't want dope to be out there killing your motivation. | ||
| I'm like, Ted, I smoke a lot of weed, I have three jobs, I work out all day. | ||
| Like, what the fuck are you talking about, man? | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Like, you've got these stereotypes in your head. | ||
| The polls are clear, though. | ||
| It's over 60% want that, so if Trump did that, it'd be popular. | ||
| The tide has turned. | ||
| If you went back 10 years ago, it would be 60% the other way. | ||
| Because it's information. | ||
| People are getting information. | ||
| But by the way, I don't think it's safe for everybody. | ||
| And I've said this as a person who smokes a lot of pop. | ||
| Yeah, I get paranoid, I was telling you. | ||
| That's what happens to me when I smoke. | ||
| Paranoia is okay. | ||
| I think it's good for you. | ||
| I don't know about that, Joe. | ||
| I think it's good for you. | ||
| I think it makes you, when the paranoia wears off, you have a greater appreciation of life. | ||
| I look at paranoia like little baby near-death experiences. | ||
| You have an opportunity to be a good person when you survive. | ||
| I think marijuana can be a gateway drug. | ||
| It led me through the gateway to Infowars. | ||
| And that was a good part of mine, a big part of my life. | ||
| The thing about it that I'm concerned with is schizophrenia. | ||
| I'm legitimately concerned with it from personal experiences, not myself, but friends. | ||
| I know people that have had, particularly people that didn't smoke pot and were given edibles and had these schizophrenic breaks. | ||
| Not just one either. | ||
| Multiple people that have had really good people. | ||
| Good, solid people with real ambitious, had their shit together. | ||
| Someone gives them an edible. | ||
| This will help you sleep. | ||
| And someone fucks up and gives them like 100 milligrams or something like that. | ||
| Joey Diaz numbers? | ||
| Joey Diaz has ruined a bunch of people. | ||
| That's what he does. | ||
| He thinks it's funny. | ||
| He thinks it's hilarious. | ||
| When you take the edible, what happens? | ||
| It just unwomps. | ||
| It's not me. | ||
| You start hallucinating. | ||
| Not me. | ||
| Not you. | ||
| Maybe me. | ||
| Listen, some people have attended... | ||
| Alex Berenson wrote a book about it, and he debated Dr. Mike Hart from the UK, excuse me, from Canada, rather, who is a cannabis doctor. | ||
| And he had some good points, but Alex Berenson wrote a book about it, and he came on the podcast to talk about it, and I agreed with him. | ||
| For some people, and it's not a small number. | ||
| I mean, it might be 1%. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| There's actually a study on this that I spoke about. | ||
| There is a small percentage that, you know, it leads to schizophrenia. | ||
| It leads to schizophrenia. | ||
| Or people that have a tendency to schizophrenia exacerbates it. | ||
| And that's why I used to smoke every now and then. | ||
| Jamie's got something to raise his finger. | ||
| I'm looking at something that this is not the best thing to be judging the election off of. | ||
| Is it Snopes? | ||
| It's definitely not Snopes. | ||
| I'm looking at a couple different betting websites, live betting that's going on for sports. | ||
| Swung to Trump. | ||
| He's now on one site I saw as high as minus 800. What does that mean? | ||
| Eight to one favorite. | ||
| He could pay $800 to win $100 on that bet. | ||
| So Trump's losing. | ||
| No, that's a huge favorite. | ||
| Oh, he's winning. | ||
| And it was Biden before it started. | ||
| So it's been back and forth. | ||
| Let's take a look at that. | ||
| It swung heavy to Trump. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| It could be Trump. | ||
| Look how bummed out he is. | ||
| Hey, man, listen. | ||
| He absolutely can win. | ||
| He has a path. | ||
| Very sad. | ||
| Would you be sad if he won? | ||
| I'm going to be miserable no matter what the fuck happens. | ||
| We got a guy who's a zombie and a guy who's a fucking bloated demagogue. | ||
| I just want Candace Owens to be happy. | ||
| Candace is going to be very happy. | ||
| She's going to be very happy. | ||
| I'm trying to FaceTime her. | ||
| I'm trying to get her number. | ||
| Right now you are? | ||
| I want to FaceTime her at the end of it to just, you know... | ||
| You don't have her number? | ||
| I have her manager's number. | ||
| Her manager sent her my number. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I thought it would be funny to just FaceTime her. | ||
| Get an update from Candace Owens and the Daily Wire. | ||
| The only thing that makes me happy is the people that are going to be upset. | ||
| Well, that's the whole thing. | ||
| And some of the Trump people, I hate too. | ||
| But I hate both sides so I can get happy no matter what. | ||
| Like, no matter who wins, I can lay in bed tonight and go, you know what? | ||
| Good, good, good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was going to vote for Kanye. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I'm not going to stick to my tradition. | ||
| If Trump wins again, because you articulate this stuff better than anybody, what is the lesson Democrats should learn, if any? | ||
| The one they should learn versus what they'll actually learn are totally different. | ||
| What they'll do is they'll say, ah, we fucked up. | ||
| We should have got somebody who was more pro-establishment. | ||
| We should have got somebody who was further right-wing. | ||
| We should have got somebody who's more like Trump and like the Republicans. | ||
| That's what they'll do and that's what they'll think. | ||
| What they actually should have done is realize that, hey, you guys jacked it from Bernie Sanders in 2016. This time around, Bernie Sanders won the first three primaries, and then what happened? | ||
| Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar dropped out and endorsed Biden at the very last minute because Obama gave him a phone call and told him to do it, so they threw all the votes behind Biden like that, and then Elizabeth Warren stayed in and siphoned votes from Bernie, and then it ended up that Biden just crushed from there on out. | ||
| He could have won that election. | ||
| He could have won the election in 2016. He could have won. | ||
| And also, obviously, this time. | ||
| So now, listen. | ||
| So dirty. | ||
| The real lesson should have been, oh my god, you should have won with Bernie, but they're not going to learn that lesson. | ||
| They're going to go with fucking Amy Klobuchar. | ||
| They're going to go with Kamala Harris again. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| What if they could pump Bernie up with steroids and growth hormone and NAD and, like, just back his aging up at length in his telomeres? | ||
| Keep them alive a little. | ||
| Is it possible? | ||
| Give them some of the Trump stuff. | ||
| Give them some Adderall. | ||
| Get them on some Adderall, some steroids. | ||
| Give them those dance moves. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Give them those dance moves on the YMCA. It's fun to stay at the YMCA. They're like, I'm crying. | |
| They're like, I'm crying. | ||
| I'm just sitting here. | ||
| I'm so proud of whatever state Trump lost. | ||
| They're like, I'm crying. | ||
| Who's crying? | ||
| Everybody that we know, they're all crying. | ||
| They all did nice things. | ||
| They all led a person to, you know, like, I found an old woman who was blind, and I led her to the polls. | ||
| I tweeted earlier today, I said, I helped a blind Nazi vote. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Okay, I got something for you guys. | |
| There are 274,000 mail ballots in Philadelphia County that won't be counted until tomorrow at the earliest, and those are very likely overwhelmingly pro-Biden. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Because they have a law you couldn't start counting until very late. | ||
| So, Biden wins Pennsylvania. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| That's right, yeah. | ||
| And it looks like he's winning. | ||
| What's he at now? | ||
| Let's see what Pennsylvania's at now. | ||
| Let's take a look. | ||
| So, we were at 17% about 45 minutes ago. | ||
| Was that how long ago? | ||
| How long did we look at it? | ||
| Not that long ago. | ||
| 20? | ||
| Could have been. | ||
| Half hour? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| It's at 27%. | ||
| Okay, let's look at it now. | ||
| 27% in, and it's red. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Pennsylvania's red, bitch. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| No, but here's the thing. | ||
| It's over! | ||
| That's it! | ||
| It's over, Kyle! | ||
| Get Candace! | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He's angry. | ||
| Look at his face. | ||
| Don't commit acts of violence. | ||
| I'm flying the fuck out of the state real soon. | ||
| Get me the Antifa face mask. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If he gets it, though. | ||
| If he gets Pennsylvania, he absolutely is. | ||
| He's won. | ||
| He's won real action. | ||
| He could win if he does that, for sure. | ||
| It looks like he's won to me. | ||
| You gotta count all the mail-ins, man. | ||
| Yeah, but wait a minute, hold on. | ||
| It's only 27% reporting. | ||
| And you gotta count all the mail-ins, which they're just telling you they didn't do that. | ||
| First of all, is this the most irresponsible election show of all time? | ||
| No, bro, come on. | ||
| Don't disrespect my expertise. | ||
| Because you're here, you balance. | ||
| Because he's here. | ||
| And the fact that Alex had things to do, it's balanced out. | ||
| Is Alex voting somewhere? | ||
| He's definitely voting. | ||
| I heard he's a big Biden guy. | ||
| Heard he loves Biden. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trump's trying to stop baby eaters. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Maine. | ||
| Maine goes red, huh? | ||
| Always, right? | ||
| Real rural. | ||
| Wisconsin. | ||
| Wisconsin is kind of liberal, no? | ||
| Yeah, but again, those are all the on-the-day votes without counting the mail-ins yet. | ||
| So when they count the mail-ins, Wisconsin and Michigan are going to go to Biden. | ||
| What does Wyoming 100% go to Trump? | ||
| 75%? | ||
| They've already called it and there's 4,000 votes counted. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Look at the vote! | |
| Look at the vote! | ||
| There's 4,000 votes! | ||
| It's like New York or California. | ||
| It's just guaranteed to be Republican. | ||
| But look at the numbers. | ||
| There's 4,000 votes. | ||
| That's everybody there, though. | ||
| That's a show that Tim and I would do there. | ||
| If Tim and I did a show there, we would do a show for everyone there. | ||
| If we do a show in Wyoming, Tim, it would literally be for all the voters. | ||
| It would be for the three electoral votes. | ||
| Yeah, we'd probably get more people than voted. | ||
| I bet we could get more people. | ||
| I'm telling you right now, I'm going to come out with a prediction right now early and say, I think it's going to be Trump. | ||
| I think it's going to be Trump. | ||
| I think it's going to be Trump. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I think he's going to win, too. | ||
| I think he's going to win, too. | ||
| 578,000 in the whole state, and there's only 4,000 people who voted. | ||
| The governor's Mark Gordon. | ||
| My friend, the doctor. | ||
| He's the governor. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| I got to call him. | ||
| Dude, the Supreme Court's going to be all conservatives. | ||
| It already is. | ||
| It's 6-3. | ||
| I know, but it's going to be 9-9 at the end. | ||
| They're going to kill off the liberals? | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, I don't know what's going to happen. | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Kanye West? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Kanye West voted for himself, but it won't count as a Kanye West unless he puts in more work. | ||
| What? | ||
| But it won't count as a vote for Kanye West unless he puts in more work. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| That's just Wyoming. | ||
| He's got a spot in Wyoming. | ||
| That's where he lives. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| Well, he doesn't live there permanently all the time. | ||
| He lives in California as well. | ||
| I mean, he does have a ranch there. | ||
| He's got a gigantic 4,000-acre ranch there. | ||
| Ball in. | ||
| I had a dream that I moved to Wyoming. | ||
| There was a rumor you did move to Wyoming. | ||
| People were like, Joe bought a ranch in Wyoming. | ||
| Really? | ||
| People just say things that you've done that aren't true. | ||
| Is that weird being my friend and you hear these rumors? | ||
| No, I just go, oh, okay, good for him. | ||
| They're like, Joe bought this club. | ||
| He lives in Wyoming now. | ||
| He's moderating a presidential debate. | ||
| I'm like, good. | ||
| Do you diffuse it? | ||
| No, I just go like this. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Because the people that are saying it, I don't take seriously anyway. | ||
| By the way, Lindsey Graham has officially won re-election. | ||
| Lindsey Graham was up against... | ||
| How? | ||
| And Mitch McConnell. | ||
| That was a given. | ||
| This race was actually, there was a chance for the other guy. | ||
| Who runs against these guys? | ||
| I mean, they're so pathetic. | ||
| Amy McGrath should have been defeated by a guy named, I think it's Charles Booker, who was a much better candidate. | ||
| But she edged him out in the primary, and then she guaranteed lost to McConnell in two seconds. | ||
| When is Pelosi up? | ||
| Pelosi, she's being primaried right now by a guy by the name of Shahid Batar. | ||
| Right now? | ||
| Yes, I believe right now. | ||
| I mean, she's going to win. | ||
| She's going to win. | ||
| In this election. | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| I believe Shahid Batar is up this election. | ||
| I should look that up. | ||
| Let me take a look. | ||
| Trump, baby. | ||
| He could do it. | ||
| And this is a real interesting moment in American history. | ||
| How many guns are you going to get? | ||
| I'll get one or two. | ||
| Do you have one now? | ||
| I don't have one now, but I should get one now. | ||
| When you move here, you've got to get a gun. | ||
| If he wins, you have to move here, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| I'll wait a little. | ||
| I've got to wait a little. | ||
| I'm not saying no. | ||
| I'm saying I've got to wait a little bit. | ||
| Pelosi's up now. | ||
| I've got to, you know... | ||
| She's up? | ||
| Well, no, she's up as in she's up for re-election. | ||
| She's up meaning she's awake. | ||
| She's in San Francisco. | ||
| She's up like this. | ||
| In the coffin. | ||
| She just got up. | ||
| Like a vampire. | ||
| Dude, I'm telling you right now, this is going to be the moment in the night. | ||
| We're all going to say it when it turns to Trump. | ||
| First results in 45 minutes for that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| First results. | ||
| How could she possibly lose? | ||
| Right? | ||
| District 12. This is going to be a really interesting next couple of days. | ||
| I'm kind of glad I'm flying out early in the morning because I think some of the people in Austin are going to get fun. | ||
| Nah, this place doesn't get that fun. | ||
| During downtown, you don't think they're going to get a little wacky? | ||
| No. | ||
| Listen, the governor here doesn't fuck around, man. | ||
| He takes care of shit. | ||
| If they think that something's going to happen, they'll do something about it. | ||
| What I'm amazed is that there's not a revolution in San Francisco. | ||
| I have some friends that just got back from San Francisco, and they used to live there, and they hadn't been in a while, and they just went back. | ||
| And the fucking horror stories... | ||
| By the way, very lefty. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Left-leaning people. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And they were furious. | ||
| At what's going on? | ||
| And they were like, I can't believe it. | ||
| There's literally shit and needles everywhere. | ||
| It's very bad. | ||
| Tents everywhere. | ||
| They were like, whatever it was, like the last time they were there, they were there about two years ago, I think they said, and it was getting bad. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they said it's unrecognizable. | ||
| So I have another update here for you. | ||
| There's a Democratic senator by the name of Doug Jones in Alabama, and he was just unseated by Republican Tommy Tuberville. | ||
| I don't like that guy's name at all. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Football coach. | |
| Tuberville. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| He's a football coach. | ||
| Tuberville's a football coach? | ||
| What is Ohio doing right now? | ||
| The real Tuberville or another Tuberville? | ||
| Republican Tommy Tuberville has defeated Democratic Senator Doug Jones. | ||
| He sounds like an Adam Sandler character. | ||
| Yes, he does. | ||
| Like in a movie? | ||
| Seems like a fake name. | ||
| Head football coach. | ||
| Very fake. | ||
| So the head football coach? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Doug Jones won a special election, and so he barely made it, and it's Alabama. | ||
| It's a miracle that a Democrat won in Alabama anyway. | ||
| And so now the Republican took the seat back, Tommy Tuberville. | ||
| Dun dun dun. | ||
| Now, what about Ohio? | ||
| Because Ohio is a pivotal state. | ||
| Well, there was a projection, right, that a lot of things were going to go Democratic this term. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I can tell you which states were predicted to go which way. | ||
| Which one do you want to know? | ||
| Ohio was predicted to go to Trump. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes, he was up in the average of polls there. | ||
| And Iowa as well was predicted to go Trump. | ||
| What's this? | ||
| Ohio. | ||
| He pulled up Ohio for you. | ||
| 80% reported Trump up. | ||
| Ohio Trump's got 50,000 votes. | ||
| See, that's Trump. | ||
| So far, Trump is outperforming the polls by 2%, which is pretty solid. | ||
| Go over Pennsylvania real quick, because that's big, right? | ||
| Pennsylvania's a big one. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, all the places that you'd expect blue. | ||
| Allentown, that's interesting. | ||
| I think the mail ballots, Kyle, are saying are 200-something thousand that are heavily Biden. | ||
| That could definitely... | ||
| Yeah, so again, what they're doing in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, like all those states, Joe, they're counting the votes on the day first, and then the mail-ins come later. | ||
| So it's going to look like Trump is up at first, but especially when it comes to Wisconsin and Michigan, Trump's going to lose because Biden's up big in those states. | ||
| They're almost safe blue states. | ||
| Interesting, because it's red now, so it'll be... | ||
| Because that's all the votes from today, and those always skew more Republican. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| But again, there's places where it's the opposite. | ||
| Like in the Sunbelt, for example, they count them the other way. | ||
| How did you learn all about this stuff? | ||
| Did you go to school for it? | ||
| No, I'm kidding. | ||
| Researching, reading about all this stuff. | ||
| But how did you get into it? | ||
| I mean, I did go to school for political science. | ||
| And, you know, like I said, I kind of had my political awakening with the Iraq War. | ||
| And ever since then, I've just cared a lot about what's going on. | ||
| Because I thought it was crazy. | ||
| I thought it was crazy. | ||
| We're going to go to war with a country that didn't attack us. | ||
| And we're going to be there. | ||
| You know, we've been there two decades now. | ||
| I was coped up on Long Island and really drunk. | ||
| And I thought the Iraq War was a great idea. | ||
| And I would argue with people in the bars in Long Island. | ||
| I would say we have to honor our commitment to the people of Iraq. | ||
| So do you not understand a little bit why it was not such a horrible idea? | ||
| Coke is supposed to make you anti-war, not pro-war. | ||
| No, not after Long Island. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| I thought we were doing the right thing. | ||
| Why would you think Coke would make you anti-war? | ||
| Oh, because you're just happy. | ||
| No, you're angry. | ||
| Oh, you're angry. | ||
| Coke people are angry. | ||
| Well, listen, when I'm happy angry, which is the best kind of happy. | ||
| They want to start fights and businesses at the same time. | ||
| When I did Adderall, it was just the businesses. | ||
| It wasn't the fights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was business. | ||
| How long did you do Adderall for? | ||
| Oh, I never did it regularly, but I would do it in college. | ||
| That's what I say when they're doing it right now. | ||
| I dabbled. | ||
| I tasted it. | ||
| I tasted it. | ||
| I dabbled. | ||
| So, Tim, do you have any pills you maybe could hook me up for? | ||
| No, I wish I don't have. | ||
| I'm sober now. | ||
| I have nothing. | ||
| That's a shame. | ||
| I have nothing. | ||
| You've been sober for quite a while. | ||
| Ten years. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Over ten years. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Nothing. | |
| No lapses at all? | ||
| No lapses at all. | ||
| What was like the come to Jesus moment? | ||
| I bought a house when I was 22 years old for $700,000 and I didn't have any money. | ||
| And I woke up the next day and I said, this is a real problem. | ||
| Most people wake up next to someone. | ||
| They wake up next to a woman that they're like, what happened here? | ||
| I woke up in a $600,000 house that I had no idea how to really pay for. | ||
| But I was investing in myself. | ||
| And I think anyone that didn't take out a big mortgage in 2007 was a pussy. | ||
| And I still think that. | ||
| And fuck you. | ||
| You should learn how to live. | ||
| Learn how to live. | ||
| When the crash came, what were your thoughts? | ||
| Were you like, oh, this was going to happen? | ||
| Well, my thoughts were I'm in a little bit of trouble. | ||
| But I was like, I'm just going to ride it out and just keep on keeping on. | ||
| Because I was working for a guy that said, just don't read the news and keep on trucking. | ||
| What did you think when Nancy Pelosi said that regardless of what the numbers are, we're going to elect Joe Biden as president? | ||
| Did you see her say that? | ||
| I did not see that. | ||
| I saw Hillary say something along the lines of, don't concede under any circumstance, something like that. | ||
| Pelosi took it another level. | ||
| She said, regardless of what the results... | ||
| Well, she's a little bit like Biden, where she's a zombie. | ||
| Like, her brain's not firing on all cylinders. | ||
| Well, she's a little bit more elusive than he is, don't you think so? | ||
| Now, I've seen videos that are just as bad as the Biden videos, where she's really having trouble. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Did you see her bark at Wolf Blitzer? | ||
| I did see that. | ||
| In fact, I covered that. | ||
| That was the first time Wolf Blitzer's ever done a good job, basically. | ||
| It was that video. | ||
| Yeah, he basically... | ||
| Yeah, he was basically saying, like, okay, people need money. | ||
| We don't have the ability to fuck around here. | ||
| And, you know, she basically... | ||
| She didn't have an answer. | ||
| She didn't have a straight answer. | ||
| But she also was chastising him and being really shitty to him. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| It was really weird, like, expressing almost royalty. | ||
| She's an odd guy. | ||
| I'm sorry, Wolf. | ||
| I'm so sorry you're wrong about this. | ||
| That's what she said. | ||
| Remember that journalist Laura Loomer who used to climb in Nancy Pelosi's window and stuff? | ||
| Like that lunatic? | ||
| She was fun, though. | ||
| I liked her. | ||
| But Nancy Pelosi never... | ||
| Nancy's like, she doesn't have any human... | ||
| She's just a million years old. | ||
| She looks like this porcelain weird grandma. | ||
| She's got great eyebrows. | ||
| She's got good eyebrows, but nobody knows what her day... | ||
| She's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. | ||
| Her husband's like a tax CEO or something. | ||
| Yeah, see, that's kind of crazy. | ||
| When you see how she's running for something. | ||
| Oh, damn it, she lost. | ||
| She just got drexed. | ||
| Yo, Lois Frankel just beat Laura Loomer. | ||
| That's the big race of the night. | ||
| Oh, Lois. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| Laura Loomer's just going to have to go back to climbing in Nancy Pelosi's window. | ||
| She can't win in Florida. | ||
| God. | ||
| Yeah, Florida's a loomer country. | ||
| You can't do it there. | ||
| Isn't it amazing, though, that she won the primary? | ||
| Yeah, why not? | ||
| There's a lot of QAnon people that are now winning primaries. | ||
| No, they're true. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| Listen, it's the Trumpification of politics in that you can kind of wing it, but if you have a better presentation than the other people, like, yeah, you can win. | ||
| All these old politicians, Joe, you know this. | ||
| They're so stodgy and stuck up and they're too scripted. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| QAnon supporting... | ||
| Oh, the fucking papa. | ||
| QAnon supporting candidate Marjorie? | ||
| How do you say her name? | ||
| Marjorie. | ||
| Marjorie? | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene guaranteed a congressional win. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| She didn't win? | ||
| She did win. | ||
| She did win. | ||
| QAnon candidate. | ||
| Oh, well her opponent dropped out. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, they probably threatened his wife. | |
| They probably threaten him. | ||
| So everybody on Twitter is convinced now that Trump's gonna get it. | ||
| That's what I see on Twitter. | ||
| What are people saying? | ||
| Is the sock lady still alive? | ||
| People are saying 2016 all over again is what people are saying. | ||
| The lady with the glasses and the sock hat in the street? | ||
| I know who you're talking about. | ||
| It is kind of 2016. It was the polls went one way and then the crowds. | ||
| What did I say at the beginning of this fucking podcast when we were outside? | ||
| You walked in and you said Trump's going to win. | ||
| I said he's going to win. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's going to win. | ||
| I don't believe the polls. | ||
| Only morons answer polls. | ||
| And the media is insanely biased against him, and they think that by saying that he can't win and he's not going to win, that somehow or another they can hypnotize people into voting. | ||
| And listen, we just went through this period of time where the media, we watched things burn down and people's property get destroyed, and the media said it wasn't happening. | ||
| It's not happening, and if you bring it up, you're nuts. | ||
| Also, there's a psychology of fence-sitters. | ||
| The psychology of fence-sitters, they don't want to vote on losers. | ||
| And then they want to be like, I went Trump. | ||
| I was thinking he was going to win. | ||
| The bandwagon effect is real. | ||
| It's super real. | ||
| So when the media is gaslighting you and saying it looks like 99% that Joe Biden is going to win, Joe Biden is a stronger candidate, he's going to win all these days. | ||
| And then people hear that, they go, well, I might as well vote for the winner. | ||
| And they'll vote for it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It does happen with me. | ||
| I mean, this is interesting because this has made a significant turnout where it feels like there's an inevitability a little bit about Trump's second term. | ||
| This is the opposite of the Young Turks coverage of 2016. Dude, I'm just waiting for Alex Jones to bust in here with cigars and singing. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| He's doing his own live show right now. | ||
| Listen, I do think that people are kind of getting ahead of themselves because we are seeing the mail-in votes versus the votes on the day. | ||
| Oh, listen to the communist. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This fucking guy. | ||
| There'd be... | ||
| One question. | ||
| So marijuana seems like it's passed in New Jersey, officially, for those over 21. Woo! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| I've only been to New York a couple times. | ||
| Being so close to New York City, isn't it almost by default not going to be legal there because of how close it is? | ||
| Kyle knows better. | ||
| In terms of purchasing it? | ||
| No, not necessarily. | ||
| But bringing it in and smoking it? | ||
| Yeah, I can see that for sure. | ||
| But there's an issue with the alcohol lobby in New York where they actually paid the politicians quite a bit of money. | ||
| And that's one of the reasons why you haven't seen much chatter about it in New York versus other states. | ||
| Dude, New York is... | ||
| Dirty. | ||
| They have so much corruption. | ||
| They kept the UFC out for decades. | ||
| We were stuck because of unions. | ||
| They kept us out because there was all sorts of disputes and people went to jail because of it for corruption. | ||
| There's so much dirtiness with some of the unions. | ||
| Not that unions are bad. | ||
| I support a lot of unions. | ||
| A lot of people that are in these positions, they're not doing what's best for people. | ||
| They're doing whatever the fuck this person paid them to pass or not pass or not let pass. | ||
| I mean, MMA was legal in every other state for a long fucking time. | ||
| And New York was one of the last ones. | ||
| Well, New York has always just been that kind of institutionally corrupt place. | ||
| Yeah, always. | ||
| Chicago, too. | ||
| I'm getting triggered because you're bashing my home. | ||
| New York? | ||
| Hey, I live there. | ||
| Well, it's my New York, too. | ||
| I love New York. | ||
| Where I grew up is where you were. | ||
| Yeah, I used to live in New York. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's where I grew up. | ||
| I was born in New Jersey. | ||
| I mean, I'm East Coast. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I spent most of my young years in Boston. | ||
| Well, from 13 to 24, at least. | ||
| My high school years, all through Boston. | ||
| And you kicked the Boston accent. | ||
| Yeah, well, I kicked it because I saw myself on TV when I was 19. When I was 19, I won the Bay State Games in Taekwondo, and then I heard myself on TV, and I was like, oh my god, what the fuck is that? | ||
| I was like, we were working really hard. | ||
| I was like, oh my god. | ||
| Look, I was trying to fit in. | ||
| When I was 13, when I moved there, I moved there from Florida, and I just wanted to fit in. | ||
| And then when I went to high school, I was going to high school in Boston, or in Newton, rather. | ||
| And all those kids had that accent. | ||
| So listen, I've been having this conversation a lot recently. | ||
| Do you think him and I definitely have, he has probably a little bit more of a New York accent than me? | ||
| Yeah, I have a really New York accent. | ||
| Your accent is barely New York. | ||
| I would say educated East Coast. | ||
| But not... | ||
| You don't have like... | ||
| The accents are always like... | ||
| My accent sounds East Coast uneducated. | ||
| Not educated on the East Coast. | ||
| Well, I wouldn't... | ||
| No, we actually do share some words in common. | ||
| Like when I say the word all, I struggle with... | ||
| It sounds like I'm saying A-U-L-L. I sound like Colin a little bit. | ||
| Colin Quinn? | ||
| Yeah, I can see that a little bit. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I can see it a little bit. | ||
| We have a similar kind of... | ||
| It's a rasp. | ||
| A little bit of a rasp. | ||
| But Colin's much more East Coast with the accent. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| The other word, I'm told, is very New Yorkish in how I say it is Florida. | ||
| Florida. | ||
| Florida. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| How are you supposed to say it? | ||
| Florida. | ||
| Speaking of Florida. | ||
| It's tightened up a little bit on the live betting. | ||
| So wait a minute, what does this mean? | ||
| I like how that's our go-to. | ||
| What do a bunch of assholes in Vegas think? | ||
| It's not Vegas, it's live. | ||
| I'm joking around. | ||
| Two and a half to one, that's a fucking big bet. | ||
| I think it's all coming down to PA. Yeah, it is coming down to PA. Let's see where PA's at now. | ||
| Again, it's going to lean Republican at the moment. | ||
| We're having a good time over here. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I think it's still at 33%. | |
| What is the best for avoiding violence in this country? | ||
| I mean, leaving? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Honestly, the best case scenario to avoid violence would be Biden. | ||
| Well, it would have been a landslide either way. | ||
| He's up by 170,000. | ||
| Nobody's fearing right-wing violence, I think. | ||
| I think people are, yeah. | ||
| But the majority is, I think, people are fearing if Trump wins again, there's violence. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| There was a Trump car parade by my place the other day. | ||
| These motherfuckers were honking for two and a half hours straight and blocking the entire Tappensy Bridge slash Cuomo Bridge. | ||
| I just think we were always worried about the Nazis and the right-wing supremacist militias. | ||
| I don't know that that ever comes true in this country. | ||
| That's just the media. | ||
| Does that happen? | ||
| No, there are. | ||
| There are deaths from right-wing, from far-right terrorists. | ||
| Yeah, but look at the damage done over the last six months with political protests or political riots. | ||
| I think 90% of it is left-wing. | ||
| Yeah, but, well, maybe, but hold on a second. | ||
| They tried to kill the fucking governor of Michigan. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Joe, we forgot about that little one. | |
| First of all, nobody even tried. | ||
| They got exposed. | ||
| The FBI probably put them up to it. | ||
| I've said many times that... | ||
| It seems like they did. | ||
| Two of the guys were FBI informants. | ||
| Well, maybe that's what the people of Michigan wanted. | ||
| The point is this. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm asking you if that was a popular position. | ||
| What's the initiative on it? | ||
| But no, but let's be honest. | ||
| There's this fantasy that we're on the edge of all these right-wing militias coming around. | ||
| It's never borne out by the facts. | ||
| Well, it's a thing that they like to repeat in the news. | ||
| Like, here's one of them. | ||
| When Chris Wallace said to Trump, do you denounce white supremacists? | ||
| Do you know this is like a fucking video compilation of Trump denouncing white supremacists? | ||
| over and over and over and over and over and over again. | ||
| And a by the way. | ||
| It's always like, yeah, yeah, I'll say the thing you want me to say, but, I mean, come on, the real problem is Antifa, and let's only talk about Antifa. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| No. | ||
| In the video compilation, there's multiple occasions where they asked him to do that. | ||
| He goes, absolutely. | ||
| He goes, I denounce all hate. | ||
| I denounce the KKK. I denounce... | ||
| He says it over and over again. | ||
| Right, but then what does he say right after? | ||
| No, listen, that Chris Wallace doesn't know that, that he's already said that, that he's pretending that he hasn't done it, is kind of shameful for a guy who's doing a debate. | ||
| I know that the media is dishonest, and I know that they do exactly the thing that you're accusing them of doing, but my point is, he leads with that, and then it's always like, oh yeah, and by the way, the left-wingers are the real problem, let's focus on the left-wingers. | ||
| Not always, but he has said that in the past. | ||
| That's all I've seen him do. | ||
| But the left-wingers when it comes to these attacks, like in Portland and in Seattle, that is a lot of Antifa. | ||
| But the weird thing about that is, and I was talking to someone who actually understands this stuff. | ||
| And he was telling me, listen, make no mistake about it, that shit's funded. | ||
| He goes, it's funded and organized. | ||
| He goes, it's funded and organized. | ||
| They're a bunch of idiots. | ||
| How do you know? | ||
| Because this is like the Soros conspiracy, like, oh, there's big money funding some pink-haired and purple-haired college kids who don't even know what the fuck they're doing, and they're out there, they can't even give you a real political cause, they're just burning shit down. | ||
| But that creates all sorts of turmoil. | ||
| That creates turmoil, and that creates an erosion of our belief in our democracy. | ||
| Right, but I don't think there's an ideological long game being played by a purple-haired college kid. | ||
| I think they're a fucking idiot. | ||
| I don't think they're a part of the ideological long game. | ||
| You said they were funded. | ||
| No, no, I said they're pawns. | ||
| Right, but you were saying they were funded. | ||
| Someone wants this to happen. | ||
| Someone wants this deterioration of our democracy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
So who's funding it? | |
| That's a good question. | ||
| They say George Soros. | ||
| They say fucking George Soros because he's the fucking boogeyman that they always go to. | ||
| But why do they always say that? | ||
| Because they're half right because, yes, he is somebody who funds politicians and is corrupt, but it's the same thing with the Koch brothers. | ||
| It's the same thing with fucking Sheldon Adelson who just gave Trump 75 million dollars the other day. | ||
| Like, yeah, this is what they do, but it's weird. | ||
| And it's weird on the right and the left when they single out, like, one evil billionaire and they act like, oh, that's the real problem. | ||
| No, the problem is that all of them are funding our politicians. | ||
| Do you know when Glenn Beck was at Fox, they told him there's two things they wanted to talk about. | ||
| They wanted him to stop talking about God, and they wanted him to stop talking about George Soros. | ||
| They said, don't bring up George Soros. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Glenn Beck, towards the end of his thing at Fox, kind of went insane and started talking about the Masons and symbology. | ||
| It was some of the best television I'd ever watched. | ||
| Yes, with the chalkboard. | ||
| Remember when he had that room that seemed like a really rich guy's den who maybe had a nuclear reactor in his basement? | ||
| And then he would just be like, why is this symbol on the money? | ||
| It's like, oh, this is good. | ||
| We're really getting to it now. | ||
| Now we're really getting to it. | ||
| And then they took him out in a box. | ||
| Well, he started doing his own thing online, and he was one of the first guys to be super successful online. | ||
| He's so successful. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| With the blaze show. | ||
| Oh, the tides and Apollo, the moon landing. | ||
| Remember Acorn? | ||
| It was like, this was the biggest scam ever. | ||
| All the Republicans were like, people were given cigarettes to vote for Obama. | ||
| It was such a bullshit thing. | ||
| Fox News did this for two months. | ||
| They're like, people were given Ripple and malt liquor in Newport so they could vote for Obama. | ||
| It's like, okay, guys, wait a minute. | ||
| Can I get a glass of water? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They were like, yeah, there he is. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Yeah, Glenn Beck really did kind of lose his marbles towards the end of Fox. | ||
| He did, but it was getting good. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| Anytime someone's drawing, that means they're in a good space mentally. | ||
| So when he left and went over to his own organization... | ||
| He did the Blaze. | ||
| Yeah, the Blaze was his network, but I think it went belly up. | ||
| Something went belly up, because the Blaze is still around. | ||
| It was bought out by, I think, Ben Shapiro's people. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But it was very successful for a while. | ||
| I remember he was making like $10 million a month. | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| That guy's got issues. | ||
| I don't think he handled the finances particularly well, which is why I think it kind of went down. | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| Coke? | ||
| Drugs? | ||
| Horse? | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| He is the CEO, founder, and owner of Mercury Radio Arts, the parent company of his television radio network, The Blaze. | ||
| Let me see The Blaze. | ||
| I'm going to type in The Blaze Ben Shapiro, because I think that they might have been working on a deal. | ||
| Let me see. | ||
| Daily Wire turns five years now. | ||
| He's moving to Nashville. | ||
| He's moving the organization to Nashville. | ||
| He bailed out of California. | ||
| See ya! | ||
| I don't know why he... | ||
| Why was he ever there in the first place? | ||
| That's where he grew up. | ||
| Oh, he grew up in California. | ||
| Strong Jewish community. | ||
| He hates any sort of left-leaning anything. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit. | ||
| I'd say so. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Have you ever met him? | ||
| I've never met him, no. | ||
| Very, very nice guy. | ||
| I like him a lot. | ||
| I'm sure George Soros. | ||
| No, I don't know that guy. | ||
| You're talking about Ben Shapiro. | ||
| Ben Shapiro. | ||
| Ben Shapiro's a nice guy. | ||
| Ben Shapiro, I like him a lot. | ||
| He's a very nice guy. | ||
| He's a sweet guy. | ||
| I saw him at a farmer's market once. | ||
| He's like a small man. | ||
| He's not that big. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Nice guy, though. | ||
| He's a very nice guy. | ||
| He really is. | ||
| Like, you know, we don't agree on everything, but... | ||
| I never understand. | ||
| It's amazing when somebody's like, a guy like that's dangerous. | ||
| I'm like, just talk to him. | ||
| Ben Shapiro's website is in talks to buy Glenn Beck's The Blaze, but I don't know if they actually did it. | ||
| So the Daily Wire. | ||
| You know what's interesting? | ||
| Why would he want to buy something? | ||
| You already got your own thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Expand? | ||
| Consolidate? | ||
| Maybe I'm going to buy Tim Dillon's Going to Hell and bring it back. | ||
| Please. | ||
| You can do it. | ||
| Bring it back. | ||
| We want a boss. | ||
| We're looking for a boss. | ||
| I'm looking for sponsorship. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| You all want independence. | ||
| I want sponsorship. | ||
| What kind of sponsorship are you looking for? | ||
| Anything. | ||
| The Blaze, the Flarefish, Daily Wire, Daily Caller, anything daily, the Daily Racist. | ||
| Let's see what the latest results are. | ||
| Hit me with it. | ||
| Nothing much has changed. | ||
| Something's changed. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| And again, we're not getting... | ||
| Oh, it's getting tight. | ||
| 108, 131. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. | ||
| We're not getting a real accurate picture because of the mail-in situation. | ||
| Stop with the mail-in, you communist. | ||
| I see everybody flipping out, and I'm like, hey, idiots, they're counting all the mail-ins first in certain places, and they're counting all the regular votes first in certain places. | ||
| But let's look at the gap in PA, because this is important. | ||
| The gap in PA is very big. | ||
| Very low. | ||
| It's 200 and... | ||
| No, but this is all the on-the-day votes. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Stop communism. | |
| This is not the mail-ins where Biden's like 70%. | ||
| Stop with your communism. | ||
| That's a six point. | ||
| What percentage of the state's votes are mail-ins? | ||
| I don't know the percent that's mail-in, but I do know that the breakdown is going to be 60-70% Biden in the mail-ins. | ||
| Understand, but you got six points there. | ||
| That's a big gap. | ||
| You said it's 250,000 people, right? | ||
| That mail-in vote? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I was talking about Philadelphia. | ||
| This is changing in real time. | ||
| 220,000 in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Trump's going to declare victory in five minutes. | ||
| He's definitely going to do that. | ||
| He's coming out to declare victory in five minutes. | ||
| I wonder when he declares victory and whether or not... | ||
| Oh, soon. | ||
| Because, Joe, these are the states, these exact ones where Trump is up, the ones in the upper Midwest, Pennsylvania, those are the ones where we haven't counted the mail-ins. | ||
| And if he comes out and says, hey, it looks like we're having a good night, what the hell's going to happen? | ||
| Because he's going to try to stop the vote there? | ||
| Do you have a little bit of sadness that he's going to win again? | ||
| Sadness over Trump winning? | ||
| I've been fucking dead inside for the longest time, okay? | ||
| Kyle, don't be dead inside. | ||
| You think I have feelings? | ||
| Don't be dead. | ||
| My fucking job, my job, Joe Rogan, is to follow this stuff every single day. | ||
| You can't be a sane person when you do this. | ||
| This is what I would owe. | ||
| One of the things that Trump said is that the country was uniting. | ||
| This is like his narrative. | ||
| The country was uniting before COVID. We were starting to like him because the economy was doing well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Did you buy any of that? | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| I told you that even pre-COVID, we had 78% of the country was living paycheck to paycheck. | ||
| Half of workers were making $30,000 a year or less. | ||
| When has there been a time when that wasn't the case in our lifetime? | ||
| Our economy has always been bad, but if you're asking me for a model to point to that I respect, I would say FDR, the New Deal, the social democratic era. | ||
| We're talking a different world. | ||
| During our lifetime, has there ever been a time where people were not living, 78% weren't living paycheck to paycheck like that? | ||
| I think the further back you go, it does get a little bit better because there were still the remnants of the New Deal era programs and unionization. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Eisenhower, 50s, things like that. | ||
| That's not our lifetime. | ||
| During our lifetime, there's never been a time where people have been any better than they were during Trump's administration. | ||
| I mean, maybe they were slightly better in the 90s. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| I've never seen data for back then. | ||
| I can only tell you what I've seen recently. | ||
| What do you attribute, like, I know, and I'm not asking this because I'm trying to prove anything, I literally know nothing about economics. | ||
| What do you think was the reason why the economy was doing so well, at least on paper, during the Trump administration before COVID? So you mean, why is the unemployment rate low? | ||
| Why was the unemployment rate low? | ||
| Why was the stock market high? | ||
| Why were all these indicators that Trump was pointing to, this is the greatest economy the world has ever seen? | ||
| 2017 Republican tax cut bill. | ||
| A lot of it had to do with his deregulation, because what happens when you deregulate and what happens when you cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations is you have this thing called a boom-bust cycle, where everything kind of takes off, and it looks like everything's amazing, and oh my god, look at these indicators. | ||
| The unemployment rate is low. | ||
| Stocks are booming. | ||
| But that's the problem, is that it's kind of fake, and this is exactly what happened in the lead-up to the Great Depression. | ||
| You had the roaring 20s, as it was called, because everything was taking off. | ||
| Oh my god, the stock market's amazing. | ||
| Everything's great. | ||
| And then eventually, you have your day of reckoning. | ||
| It just so happened that in our case, it was COVID that kind of popped the bubble, right? | ||
| COVID was the thing that really was like, this thing is all fake anyway. | ||
| But if it wasn't COVID, Joe, it would have been something else. | ||
| Because just like in 2008... | ||
| Is it safe to say that it's COVID because it wasn't real anyway? | ||
| Because COVID just stopped people working dead in their tracks. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's right. | |
| That was a giant issue that basically ground the economy to a halt. | ||
| And there's no escaping that. | ||
| You can't escape the economic reality of that. | ||
| Which is why, what did they do in response? | ||
| Like we said, they did the CARES Act. | ||
| They took $5 trillion and they pumped it into the economy. | ||
| They handed it over to the corporations. | ||
| And then they sat back and watched them make these terrible decisions. | ||
| What could be done? | ||
| Let's say Trump wins again. | ||
| What could be done to bring the economy back? | ||
| Well, first things first, stimulus immediately. | ||
| I would do a universal basic income check for the remainder of COVID. If you're going to do any sort of economic shutdowns, you have to pair that with relief for people. | ||
| We've discussed this already, but he obviously is not interested in doing that. | ||
| But he is. | ||
| He was going to do, not UBI, but he did want to do another stimulus bill. | ||
| Do you think he has more funds? | ||
| And McConnell, who were blocking him. | ||
| Do you think he has more freedom to do anything if he wins again? | ||
| Does he have more freedom to do anything? | ||
| I'm looking for a silver lining here. | ||
| I mean, listen, the best he could do, because you're going to have a Senate and a House that's not really in line with him, okay? | ||
| So the best he could do is go all out on the executive orders and do the best you could do through that path. | ||
| It'll be a four-year kind of lame duck situation where the Congress and the Senate don't let him do anything, right? | ||
| He'll do some executive orders. | ||
| They'll immediately be reversed when AOC wins and cuts everyone's tick off. | ||
| Is that what she's going to do? | ||
| Well, I believe that she will be doing that. | ||
| Because you know it's going to swing back. | ||
| He's going to win again, maybe. | ||
| Maybe, maybe not. | ||
| But if he wins again, it's swinging hard. | ||
| Like, it's going to be Ilhan Omar and AOC. For the... | ||
| See, the thing is, I actually think it's going to be the opposite. | ||
| I think they're going to go further right-wing. | ||
| I think they're going to go Amy Klobuchar. | ||
| I think they're going to go Kamala Harris. | ||
| I think it's like the establishment will have a stranglehold even more on the Democratic Party. | ||
| 2024, Don Jr. The empire continues. | ||
| Listen, I don't know if I can take it. | ||
| I don't know if I can take it. | ||
| What do you mean, what? | ||
| The daughter and the son together? | ||
| Ivanka is a killer. | ||
| Do you think they could do that? | ||
| It's over anyway. | ||
| Let's let them try. | ||
|
unidentified
|
So, of the three, who's got the most ability? | |
| Of the three, who's got the most ability? | ||
| Ivanka. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm curious who you think. | ||
| Of the three what? | ||
| Of the three Trump kids? | ||
| No, no, he's the son-in-law. | ||
| I'm talking about the three. | ||
| Ivanka, Eric, and Don. | ||
| Don Jr., Eric, or Ivanka. | ||
| They don't let Eric talk. | ||
| I think something's wrong. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| He's on Fox News from time to time. | ||
| No, Eric is tied with Barron, and then you would have Don Jr. and then Ivanka. | ||
| I mean, let's be honest. | ||
| Don Jr. is the best talker. | ||
| Eric, they tried to get COVID. They were like, give him COVID and get him out of here. | ||
| They ventilated him months ago. | ||
| I actually think Eric has more promise than Don Jr., tell you the truth. | ||
| Oh, we forgot about Tiffany. | ||
| Oh, I forgot about Tiffany. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| She's the forgotten kid and I literally forgot her. | ||
| I think we're alone now. | ||
| Remember that song? | ||
| Where is Trump watching the results? | ||
| In a gold castle somewhere. | ||
| Underground. | ||
| No, he's at the White House. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're going to have a party at the White House. | ||
| Has he started jerking off yet? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| How many people are saying what you are saying, which is like, let's wait for the mail-ins, or is it kind of like... | ||
| Oh, it's fucking Twitter. | ||
| They're all going nuts. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Are they freaking out? | |
| Oh my God, Trump won. | ||
| It's already over. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, the hysteria. | ||
| And remember, this is mostly left-leaning Twitter. | ||
| Is everyone racist now? | ||
| Now, here's what's the question. | ||
| What is the percentage of Hispanic votes that he got and African-American votes? | ||
| That's fascinating. | ||
| It is fascinating, and let me tell you something. | ||
| What the numbers show already is that he's doing better than he did in 2016 with them. | ||
| I know! | ||
| But we all thought this. | ||
| He's gotten more Latinos and more black people than he did the last time. | ||
| The black conservative movement is not covered at all by the media, and you look on YouTube, it's got hundreds of thousands, millions of views. | ||
| It's very interesting, and the media ignores it completely. | ||
| What do you attribute that to? | ||
| I mean, he has done some token reaching out to them. | ||
| Prison reform, things like that. | ||
| He was doing a photo op with Lil Wayne the other day, and then before that, he was doing one with, you know, who was the other one? | ||
| Lil Pump, who he called Lil Pimp. | ||
| There's another one. | ||
| He called him Lil Pimp? | ||
| Yeah, he brought him out. | ||
| He goes, can you get that up, Jamie? | ||
| He brings it up. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| Have you seen this? | ||
| You have to see this. | ||
| You have to watch this. | ||
| Did he just not forget his name? | ||
| He has no idea what's going on. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| No, but he does even better with Latinos than he does with black people. | ||
| Well, Jorge Masvidal was campaigning for him. | ||
| Trump, Lil Pimp. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| At closing rally. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| Trump calls rapper Lil Pimp. | ||
| You've got to watch this. | ||
| Sound, music, and other things. | ||
| One of the big superstars of the world. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's the president! | |
| It's not even Little. | ||
| It's Lil Pump. | ||
| He loves it. | ||
| He said Little? | ||
| Little Pimp? | ||
| Little Pimp. | ||
| That is hilarious. | ||
| Imagine if that was his name. | ||
| You should come up with a character called Little Pimp. | ||
| I should. | ||
| Little Pimp. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Listen. | |
| It's a thought. | ||
| That's not a bad character. | ||
| It's not a bad idea. | ||
| That's a very good idea for you. | ||
| That's not a bad idea. | ||
| Get your hair braided. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a lot of commitment. | ||
| Get some fake face tattoos. | ||
| That's a lot of commitment. | ||
| Cornrows, yeah. | ||
| And you could be a little pimp. | ||
| It's interesting to watch. | ||
| He's going to come out tonight and definitely claim some type of... | ||
| I do think that, yes. | ||
| I do think he's going to come out and say, we're doing amazing. | ||
| What do you think now the odds are that he wins? | ||
| The odds are definitely a lot better than they were at the beginning of the night, for sure. | ||
| Give me a number. | ||
| I still think it's probably 65% chance Biden wins. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| Because a lot of what you're seeing there is attributable to what I said from the very beginning, which is they're counting the votes that were in today first, and then the mail-ins come later. | ||
| How's he not tweeting right now? | ||
| After all the days he tweets and all the times he tweets non-stop, this is the time he hasn't tweeted for a while. | ||
| We are looking really good all over the country. | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| He's ready. | ||
| Four hours ago, that was. | ||
| Yeah, but still, we're looking really good. | ||
| He's got to be happy. | ||
| I just texted somebody with kind of a little inside information to see what's going on. | ||
| CIA? No, not CIA. Somebody who knows a little bit of what's going on. | ||
| Deep State. | ||
| Alex Jones? | ||
| No, you know the kid from Parkland who wanted more guns? | ||
| Yeah, that guy. | ||
| Yeah, him. | ||
| He's my inside source. | ||
| Biden wins Illinois. | ||
| Biden wins Illinois. | ||
| Is that big? | ||
| Is that big? | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| It's just, it's Blue State. | ||
| It's always a Blue State. | ||
| Is it always a Blue State? | ||
| I'm asking. | ||
| I think, yes, I do think so. | ||
|
unidentified
|
He won by, no, look at that. | |
| That's pretty good. | ||
| 12%? | ||
| So what's it at now? | ||
| What's the electoral vote at now? | ||
| 131 to 108. And how is he doing with Latinos? | ||
| They don't have it split up on here. | ||
| South Carolina, Georgia, North Carolina, Florida. | ||
| Is Florida still in play? | ||
| What's the numbers in Florida now? | ||
| 91. They haven't updated it. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| No, he's got that. | ||
| Yeah, he's up by 400,000. | ||
| He's got that. | ||
| It depends. | ||
| Well, I think it's very likely Trump wins it. | ||
| Listen to you, you communists. | ||
| No, no, I think it's very likely he wins it. | ||
| It's interesting to see that he's made gains. | ||
| Has he made gains with Latino voters? | ||
| We don't know that yet. | ||
| Yes, he's made gains from his 2016 numbers, yes. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Well, there you go. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I mean, they've spent four years calling the guy racist every day. | |
| And the only one who didn't listen was Luis J. Gomez. | ||
| And now Trump wins. | ||
| It's actually really interesting because where Biden took from Trump was old suburban white people. | ||
| Okay, yeah, because they're afraid. | ||
| That's where Biden got his numbers from. | ||
| Arizona really is showing for Biden. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Sunbelt. | ||
| Not good for him. | ||
| But no, that's gonna... | ||
| No, wait a second. | ||
| Arizona is gonna swing the other way. | ||
| It's gonna swing pro-Trump as more votes come in. | ||
| But look at the numbers, though. | ||
| 53. It was at 73% already. | ||
| 45. Oh, it's 73 already. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So yeah, you're getting up there now. | ||
| He's ahead by 280,000. | ||
| By the way, ABC News projects the Democrats are going to retain control of the House of Representatives. | ||
| That's not a huge surprise. | ||
| They were 97% favorites to do that anyway. | ||
| Montana. | ||
| Go back to that. | ||
| So what's going on? | ||
| Montana's going blue. | ||
| That's a bunch of Californians moved to fucking Montana. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| They all wanted water aquifers and ranches. | ||
| They all wanted ranches. | ||
| They wanted taxes better, too. | ||
| North Dakota. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So I'll tell you what. | ||
| Here's the bad news. | ||
| I don't think we're going to be getting an answer tonight. | ||
| Because if it wasn't Florida going to Biden and being called, then it's going to go on because we're not going to know Pennsylvania for three or four days. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| What chaos are we going to have in the streets, Kyle? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, forget it. | |
| Well, give Trump eight minutes. | ||
| He'll come out and say, we're doing it really splendidly. | ||
| It's really amazing. | ||
| It's really incredible. | ||
| You need to see this. | ||
| It's really something else. | ||
| You've never seen anything like this before. | ||
| Listen, folks, we've never really seen anything like this. | ||
| So I think Trump will, he said he'll make some type of statement tonight. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What time is it East Coast right now? | ||
| 10.50. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would imagine he's got to make a statement within the next hour, right? | ||
| He's not going to speak after midnight. | ||
| When you're on that Addy, son, time doesn't matter. | ||
| Yeah, when you're Zoom, that's a good point. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Fair point. | ||
| I think he's going to come out and declare victory within 15 minutes. | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine before he goes to bed. | ||
| Yeah, he's just going to come out. | ||
| I did this one tonight. | ||
| We respect Joe. | ||
| They probably gave him two extra shots of steroids tonight just so he could be... | ||
| And now where is Kamala and... | ||
| Kamala, you piece of shit. | ||
| Kamala, I can't... | ||
| The fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Kamala. | ||
| It's an awkward Kamala. | ||
| Biden is still in the basement. | ||
| They haven't told him that the election started yet. | ||
| Yeah, ma'am. | ||
| But come on. | ||
| They got him in a hermetically sealed chamber. | ||
| Where is he? | ||
| You know who's smiling somewhere? | ||
| It's Hillary Clinton. | ||
| You know she is. | ||
| You think so? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Why didn't... | |
| Here's my question. | ||
| Why didn't they run her again? | ||
| She should have ran. | ||
| Why didn't she run? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's fucking incredibly disliked. | ||
| Right, but she won the popular vote last time. | ||
| Yeah, but she could have came back with a yass queen, her and Ghislaine Maxwell just fucking going nuts. | ||
| She might have won. | ||
| When you lose, there is a period of time where the country's like, fuck off. | ||
| It's the opposite of the bandwagon effect, like we were talking about earlier. | ||
| Because then you're just viewed as a loser. | ||
| Like, happened with Mitt Romney. | ||
| When Mitt Romney lost, for like a year and a half, everybody's like, fucking Mitt Romney, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Because he was expected to win, actually, versus Obama. | ||
| Yeah, I can't believe, I never knew the polling was that close with him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yep, he was only up.3 or something like that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I'm stunned by that. | ||
| I just hope everyone's okay. | ||
| How are you feeling, Tim? | ||
| Are you good with this? | ||
| I'm good with it. | ||
| I tend to survive. | ||
| I think I'll be fine. | ||
| A lot of people that I know and respect are going to be very upset, but they're generally very upset about everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So if you can't be happy, then I don't know. | ||
| It's not my problem. | ||
| I voted libertarian. | ||
| I mean, I didn't vote, but good for you. | ||
| I voted Joe Jorgensen. | ||
| I thought Joe had a shot, and I don't know who she is. | ||
| I knew she didn't have a shot. | ||
| I don't know who she is or what she stood for, but I was very excited about her candidacy. | ||
| Legalizing drugs. | ||
| Good for her. | ||
| Wait, did you actually vote for Joe Jorgensen? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I respect it. | ||
| I've done third-party votes before. | ||
| Well, I knew California was going to Biden no matter what. | ||
| I did not have a voting plan. | ||
| I was looking at the whole thing. | ||
| I was like, what is this? | ||
| I just felt... | ||
| I know. | ||
| The whole thing is just... | ||
| Kumi had a great line four years ago, Anthony Kumi. | ||
| They said something, something. | ||
| And then Anthony Kumi went, listen, Trump... | ||
| This doesn't... | ||
| The movie doesn't end with Trump losing. | ||
| That was a great line that he had. | ||
| And everybody was like, yeah, okay. | ||
| And he was right. | ||
| And I'm just wondering, now seeing it as a movie, a weird cinematic thing, what is this? | ||
| Because I was sort of convinced that this was Biden's to lose walking in here. | ||
| And now it's like... | ||
| Oh, it was definitely Biden's. | ||
| It was Biden's to lose. | ||
| Like, the onus was on Trump, because he's the one with the narrow path. | ||
| I think we were fed a pile of shit. | ||
| Yeah, you were right. | ||
| I think you might have been right about this, Joe. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm sorry, but the numbers were what they were. | ||
| It's not like they were fishing for that result. | ||
| If you want to help Biden, you say the opposite. | ||
| The polls are morons. | ||
| It's morons answering the polls. | ||
| I think I'm right. | ||
| They were dead right in 2018, though, in the midterms. | ||
| They got it exactly right. | ||
| This is 2018, bro. | ||
| This is 2020, and this is for the president. | ||
| But in the midterms, how many people vote? | ||
| It's a small fraction in comparison to the present. | ||
| It's obviously lower turnout. | ||
| A gigantic difference, right? | ||
| But if you nail it with the data, you nail it with the data. | ||
| Right, but the ramping up of the Joe Biden shit has been, over the last few months, has been really ridiculous. | ||
| In the sense that the media is pushing him? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In the sense that the media is ignoring all of his gaffes. | ||
| I just think that's different from the polls. | ||
| Ignoring all of the corruption. | ||
| Ignoring all the Hunter Biden emails. | ||
|
unidentified
|
All true. | |
| All that shit with Twitter, where Twitter banned the New York Post, where Facebook was banned. | ||
| That's all true. | ||
| That stuff was bad. | ||
| All that stuff is bad. | ||
| No one thinks that's a good thing. | ||
| Yeah, but I feel like I get your point. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| I just think perhaps we're too online in our own world. | ||
| A lot of people are just fucking working their jobs and making their decision when they see a speech or two on TV. You know what I mean? | ||
| They're not following this shit in and out like you and me. | ||
| You're right, but they heard about that. | ||
| I know people that work regular jobs that said, do you hear about this Twitter shit? | ||
| And they were really upset about it because they know that I've talked to Jack Dorsey and I've had him on before. | ||
| And that this Twitter censorship thing always skews left. | ||
| Like, they always skew towards the left and censor... | ||
| Listen, I gotta push back on that because the Chapo Trap House Reddit was banned. | ||
| I have a friend, Rania Khalek... | ||
| Yeah, but that's not Twitter. | ||
| I'm saying social media. | ||
| I'm saying... | ||
| Yeah, but we're talking about Twitter. | ||
| Okay, well there's Reddit, there's Twitter, there's Facebook. | ||
| I've seen censorship in a lot of places. | ||
| Twitter censors a lot of shit on the left as well. | ||
| There's Unity 2020, which is sort of central. | ||
| Centrist. | ||
| That's Brett Weinstein's organization where he was trying to get people on both sides to come together. | ||
| And Twitter banned their account, which is fucking preposterous. | ||
| Facebook banned their account. | ||
| But then due to a lot of pushback, Facebook reinstated it. | ||
| But then Eric Weinstein said, you know, why are you lying and saying this was an accident? | ||
| Like this is manually reviewed by someone. | ||
| Yeah, there's a left outlet named Jacobin. | ||
| And they did reporting on the election in Bolivia. | ||
| And that was polled because in Bolivia, socialists won the election. | ||
| And so, their socialist outlet- Even smart, really smart people on the left, guys like Chris Hedges, people, your friend Abby Martin, they understand- Yes, she's been censored a million times, Abby Martin. | ||
| All the critics of the state eventually get censored. | ||
| So it's not left versus right, it's establishment versus anti-establishment. | ||
| And there's different flavors and varieties of being anti-establishment, but if you're speaking up, yes, you're probably going to be in trouble. | ||
| Well, Abby's censorship, she gets a lot of pushback on her stance on Israel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a big part of it. | ||
| Last time she did my podcast, there was a tremendous amount of it. | ||
| I'm sure of it, but this is something she's been dealing with for the longest time, and this is censorious trolls who want to shut her up because they don't agree with her. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of that. | ||
| There's a lot of that. | ||
| But the thing with Twitter and the New York Post was particularly egregious. | ||
| Oh, it was... | ||
| How are you going to censor... | ||
| They're not even making a claim of there's factual inaccuracies. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| They're not even saying that. | ||
| They're just saying, we think this might be election meddling or something, because maybe the information came from Russia... | ||
| Well, CNN, one of the reporters from CNN tweeted that it was Russian disinformation. | ||
| No evidence of that whatsoever. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| So what is that? | ||
| And by the way, even if it was, let's say, because this is the point that Glenn Greenwald made, and he's a million percent right, when you're a journalist, if you're given something newsworthy, you don't fucking question the source. | ||
| You say, this is information that people should know. | ||
| It's like with Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange, when we learned that the United States was drone striking innocent people, and then they released that video that showed us doing it, and then it became a big story. | ||
| If somebody said, hey, where did you get that from? | ||
| Did the Taliban give that to you? | ||
| Or did this person or that person give it to you? | ||
| What the fuck does it matter? | ||
| The information stands on its own two feet. | ||
| Like, it's important in and of itself. | ||
| Can you imagine if Trump gets in for a second term and then immediately pardons Snowden? | ||
| If Trump pardons Snowden and then pardons Assange and then legalizes drugs and then releases the greatest rap album of all time... | ||
| With Lil Pimp. | ||
| With Lil Pimp. | ||
| He'll be a phenomenal... | ||
| I mean, he could do... | ||
| He's made a lot of peace deals that nobody has talked about, right? | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Kushner's been involved in a lot of them. | ||
| Those are like the Sudan one. | ||
| I found that hilarious because Israel and Sudan were not at war. | ||
| So what are you making peace for? | ||
| It's not like they were fighting... | ||
| They weren't fighting. | ||
| It's a show to be like, oh yeah, vote for me, I'm the fucking peace guy. | ||
| So there's been no peace deals that were exceptional? | ||
| No, the one thing I give them credit for on foreign policy, and I get a lot of shit for this, but I say it because I think it's true, is North Korea. | ||
| Because North Korea, it is true that this was a place where Obama was not able to get a deal. | ||
| and trump basically went in there and said i don't care i'll talk to him and then he talked to him and listen we're not at war we don't have an official deal but i don't care we're not at war and that's all that matters to me the thing that's really interesting though is isn't it weird how democrats and republicans just casually flip their position on the same issue when it's different countries so like obama what obama did with iran is what trump did with north korea you know what i mean like Like Obama wanted to make peace with Iran. | ||
| They did the nuclear agreement, right? | ||
| And Trump did the same thing with North Korea. | ||
| And then they flipped their positions on the other countries. | ||
| Trump's kind of been masterful with North Korea. | ||
| Whereas a lot of people... | ||
| Because you need a crazy guy, right? | ||
| Because Kim Jong-un's a crazy guy. | ||
| You need an equally crazy psychopath. | ||
| And they kind of have a similar look to them. | ||
| They make these bellicose threats, but then they don't really mean them. | ||
| They're like a drunk uncle, they wake up the next day, they're smiling. | ||
| Remember the rumors that he was dead and his sister was running the show? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Great! | |
| What happened with that? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Great! | |
| Because fucking fake news is what happened with that. | ||
| They ran with those articles and it was bullshit. | ||
| But was he putting that out there to find traitors? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because people have done stuff like that. | ||
| I don't know the mechanics of it. | ||
| You know, Tyson Fury did that in his last training camp. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| He put out rumors that his ankle was broken. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, to find out if he's got some rats inside his camp. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| Yeah, he said he had an injury. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
| And then they started putting out pictures of the sister. | ||
| Yeah, Kim Jong-un's sister. | ||
| Yeah, and then we all got curious, and then he came back. | ||
| That was a great, dramatic, tense moment. | ||
| People do shit like that just to find out if they got rats in their camp. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, it's a good move. | ||
| Just to flush out the rats. | ||
| That's what Tyson Fury did. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| He had this feeling that someone was dirty in his camp. | ||
| I wonder if that's why Trump gave himself COVID. He's like, I just want to see who's got rats. | ||
| Jamie, what are you doing? | ||
| Jamie, do you have an update on the election? | ||
| Joe Biden just won California. | ||
| I know, big shocker. | ||
| What? | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| He literally just announced the whole left coast for Biden. | ||
| Yeah, those were all solidly blue states. | ||
| Wait a minute, Biden won California? | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| That is absurd. | ||
| What is the numbers? | ||
| It just hit the time, so it just hit 8 o'clock. | ||
| Zero percent reporting, so I think they just called them because... | ||
| They just know. | ||
| Bro, rigged. | ||
| Nevada got an extra hour added onto it, so... | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So Arizona looks like it's going blue. | ||
| New Mexico, Colorado. | ||
| What's Arizona now? | ||
| Isn't that unusual that Arizona goes blue? | ||
| Wasn't Arizona like a red state for a long time? | ||
| I thought it was going to be a lot closer. | ||
| No, you're exactly right. | ||
| Arizona was a red state for a very long time. | ||
| But this is the thing. | ||
| People leave in California. | ||
| Biden is polling well in the Sun Belt because it's a lot of old white retirees. | ||
| And that's who I was saying before. | ||
| That's where he took from Trump. | ||
| Trump is doing better among Latinos compared to last time. | ||
| Sorry, go ahead. | ||
| I was just saying that Trump was doing better among minorities than he was last time, and Biden is taking all of these old white people from Trump. | ||
| Go back to Texas. | ||
| Let me see Texas. | ||
| Oh, it's over. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| That's a big gap in Texas now. | ||
| 38 electoral votes, that's going to bring Trump up. | ||
| Florida's going to bring him up. | ||
| Yeah, see, that's what Texas should. | ||
| I thought he'd win Texas. | ||
| I thought Trump would win Texas. | ||
| Florida's going to bring Trump up. | ||
| Ohio's going to bring Trump up. | ||
| It's amazing how close Texas is, though, isn't it? | ||
| Ohio's gonna bring Trump up. | ||
| And then Pennsylvania's everything. | ||
| Here's what's gonna happen. | ||
| Go to Pennsylvania? | ||
| Here's what's gonna happen. | ||
| You're gonna have... | ||
| It's very low still. | ||
| You're gonna have Michigan and Wisconsin are gonna flip blue, and then Pennsylvania's really what it's all riding on now. | ||
| Pennsylvania is 44%. | ||
| He's up by $400. | ||
| Dude, I think Trump wins Pennsylvania. | ||
| If Trump wins Pennsylvania, he wins. | ||
| I think he wins it. | ||
| I think he wins it. | ||
| There's a lot of steel, a lot of fracking, a lot of steel. | ||
| What are the miners there, coal miners? | ||
| That was very bad when Joe Biden lied. | ||
| West Virginia is the coal miner. | ||
| But when Joe Biden lied about... | ||
| I'm sorry, but what are the mines in Pennsylvania? | ||
| Pittsburgh used to be steel, but it's not really steel anymore. | ||
| That's what I mean. | ||
| When Biden lied about fracking, lied, said he never said that he was going to ban fracking. | ||
| Yeah, but he's not going to ban fracking. | ||
| He wouldn't do that. | ||
| But it doesn't matter. | ||
| He said he was going to ban fracking. | ||
| I think he meant on federal land specifically. | ||
| But he said, he never said he was going to ban fracking. | ||
| But he did. | ||
| And there's a lot of video of it, and so they caught him on that. | ||
| Yes, but I think he's referring to federal lands specifically. | ||
| In other words, I'm not going to ban it for the whole country. | ||
| He said, he never said he was going to ban fracking. | ||
| I know, but they're kind of misstating it because they want to make it seem like, oh, he's going to ban it all across the country. | ||
| No, he said, I won't ban it on like federal, or I will ban it on federal lands. | ||
| Which, by the way, listen, I live in New York, they banned fracking in New York because they cause fucking earthquakes and they pollute the fucking water. | ||
| There's a real problem with fracking. | ||
| Oh yeah, fracking, I'm not a pro-fracking guy. | ||
| I like a little fracking. | ||
| One thing that fracking has done that's good is it's released our dependence on foreign oil. | ||
| Yes, but I do think we need to, and Biden got a lot of shit for saying this, but it's absolutely true. | ||
| At some point, we're going to have to fucking get off the fossil fuels. | ||
| We can't do this forever. | ||
| And Biden said by 2050, and people were making a big stink about it, like, that's crazy. | ||
| Like, really? | ||
| That's crazy? | ||
| What date would you be okay with? | ||
| 2060? | ||
| 2070? | ||
| Do you think Biden comes out and makes a speech tonight? | ||
| Do they allow him to speak? | ||
| They don't let him talk anymore. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| He never talks again. | ||
| Listen, for him to speak, they gotta pump him up with the Adderall and they gotta pump him up with steroids. | ||
| What do you think they pump him up with before that first debate? | ||
| Could have been Adderall. | ||
| Could have been Seroquel. | ||
| Antipsychotic medication. | ||
| Yeah, something. | ||
| Something. | ||
| Because all of a sudden he was lucid. | ||
| In the debate with Bernie. | ||
| What a civilization that we have where we have to pump the presidential candidate full of anti-psychotics before they go out. | ||
| Isn't there something wrong? | ||
| It seems like there's something wrong here. | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| What's the anti-psychotic do? | ||
| It stops him from being a psycho. | ||
| It's Seroquil. | ||
| It's some anti-psychotic medication. | ||
| My mother's schizophrenic. | ||
| They make her take Respiral, things like that. | ||
| What is Seroquil? | ||
| It gives you more clear thought. | ||
| My friend's father used to take Seroquil. | ||
| He would like foam at the mouth and fall down. | ||
| It was like a drop. | ||
| And that. | ||
| And that happens. | ||
| That happens, yeah. | ||
| But if he's not psychotic, you still would give him this medication? | ||
| No, I was largely joking when I said, oh, I'd give him Seroquel, but, you know. | ||
| Oh, I thought you were serious. | ||
| No, Adderall is the thing that I would actually give him. | ||
| There's still 2.2 million mail-in ballots to be counted in Pennsylvania, about 87% of the total. | ||
| Yes, so that means that, you know, I think Pennsylvania is going to, it's Biden, I think. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I do. | ||
| He was up six points in the fucking average of the polls coming into today. | ||
| It would have been a miracle if Trump pulled it off. | ||
| Six points is way outside of the margin of error. | ||
| 2.2 million is so many. | ||
| Of absentee ballots? | ||
| Six points is way outside of the margin of error. | ||
| Trump can maybe swing at three points. | ||
| He can't swing at fucking six. | ||
| Yeah, but how many of those 2.2 million, let's say 70% of them go to Biden. | ||
| Right now, there's a big gap. | ||
| There's a six point gap. | ||
| Well, it's 2.2 million to be counted. | ||
| 2.2 million. | ||
| That's 87% of the vote. | ||
| How long is that going to take? | ||
| Like I said, four or five days maybe. | ||
| Why is there so many mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania? | ||
| Because now, since with COVID, there's a lot of places that have been doing mail-ins, and everybody rushed to the polls to do mail-ins. | ||
| Trump lost! | ||
| Do you see what happened right now? | ||
| Trump won and then he fucking lost. | ||
| We are not going to know. | ||
| It's going to be up in the air for a long time. | ||
| I like this election day and I hope it lasts for six months. | ||
| It's kind of crazy that there's like this one state that could literally factor the whole thing. | ||
| I'm sure you remember this, but in the past, it wasn't Pennsylvania. | ||
| It was Ohio did it a lot of times. | ||
| Ohio sometimes, Florida other times. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| So, you know, 2000, it was Florida. | ||
| And then you had 2004, I think it was Ohio. | ||
| They put it over the edge. | ||
| There's never been a situation like this where we're going to go to bed not knowing who the president is. | ||
| Oh, yeah, there has. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There's been a ton of the dangling chads thing, right? | ||
| Well, yeah, but I think even in more elections than that, I think many of them we go to sleep not knowing. | ||
| We know, but we kind of know. | ||
| The Kerry one, right? | ||
| Kerry kind of lost, I think, comfortably, actually. | ||
| Yeah, this one we really don't know, but a lot of them you would go to bed not knowing, but there was a strong indication. | ||
| Wasn't the Kerry one? | ||
| Was that the Dangling Chad's one? | ||
| No, that was Al Gore in 2000. What was Kerry, though? | ||
| There was something weird about Kerry. | ||
| He ran against Bush, and his argument was all like, yeah, I'm going to keep doing the Iraq War, too, but I'm just smarter than this guy. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I mean, there was something weird about the election itself. | ||
| Yeah, there was an issue with the voting machines in Ohio, I'd say. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It was like a private company that was running them or something. | ||
| Diebold. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Diebold, that's right. | |
| Did you ever see that documentary, Hacking Democracy? | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| That's a terrifying documentary. | ||
| That's not fun, is it? | ||
| I mean, listen, just the fact that all the states do it differently, there's no uniform rules as to how to do this at the federal level. | ||
| Each state determines how they're going to do their own election. | ||
| Yeah, that's pretty bizarre. | ||
| So it's wildly different from state to state. | ||
| Different rules, different time frames. | ||
| How bizarre. | ||
| Should we wrap this up? | ||
| I mean, listen, I don't think we're going to know. | ||
| I mean, Trump won and then he lost in this podcast. | ||
| I don't think we're going to know, Joe. | ||
| We'll never know. | ||
| We may never know. | ||
| People are going to be mad at both of you guys for not voting and me for voting in an irrelevant way. | ||
| Joe Jorgensen. | ||
| Listen, I did what I had to do. | ||
| I was going to vote. | ||
| I thought about it and I looked at the people doing it and I said, I don't want to be associated with them. | ||
| So listen, I just want to reiterate this before we finish. | ||
| Even though I said it about 78 times tonight. | ||
| But we have the list of the states. | ||
| Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Virginia. | ||
| They don't count the mail-in ballots as they come in. | ||
| So they're counting all the votes from today, which are going to skew pro-Trump. | ||
| And then after they count the mail-in votes, which skew pro-Biden. | ||
| Can we see the states again? | ||
| So those states, I think, are in play. | ||
| Now, let me ask you this. | ||
| Is there a path where if Trump wins Pennsylvania, where he could still lose the election? | ||
| Let me see the map. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| If Trump were to win Pennsylvania, and he wins Ohio, and he wins Florida, see, his problem is he's not going to win Wisconsin and Michigan. | ||
| I think he might eke out to 78 if he gets... | ||
| Yeah, if he gets North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, I think that might get him there, but I don't... | ||
| I saw a way he could win, or excuse me, Biden could win without getting Pennsylvania, but it would give him 270 exactly, which is like a tough way to... | ||
| So what would that map be? | ||
| I'm trying to... | ||
| I can't check the tweet because you guys are... | ||
| I have to get it right on my screen. | ||
| Look at that, 270 to win, 180 to 209. As of right now, it really all rides on Pennsylvania. | ||
| Because I'll tell you what, Michigan and Wisconsin are not going to stay pro-Trump. | ||
| They're 100% flipping to Biden because he's up like 8 to 10 points there in the polls, and we haven't counted the mail-ins yet. | ||
| So Wisconsin and Michigan are gone for Biden, for sure. | ||
| So then it's going to come down to Pennsylvania. | ||
| And Arizona, too, a little bit, but it looks like Biden's going to hang on there, which is kind of surprising. | ||
| Looks like he's winning it. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It comes down to PA. Arizona is another fucking state where the Californians fled to. | ||
| They all went to Phoenix and Tucson. | ||
| But it's more old suburban retirees. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| We're not going to know until tomorrow. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Arizona has always been the X Factor. | ||
| If Michigan and Wisconsin go to Biden as the campaigns have expected, then Pennsylvania takes the center stage. | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| Biden could lose Pennsylvania and still win the presidency if he wins Arizona. | ||
| Plus Maine... | ||
| No, it's split. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Maine 2nd District. | ||
| That's not the same as Maine. | ||
| It's actually much more likely to go. | ||
| Would be 270 on the nose. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, but I think it's going to come down to Pennsylvania. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| What a tight race. | ||
| It's a tight race. | ||
| And you think Trump's not going to raise fucking hell if he's got 268? | ||
| Trump's not going to let that shit go. | ||
| What can he do? | ||
| Supreme Court. | ||
| He'll say, fuck it, fraudulent this, that's fake, this isn't real. | ||
| That's where it gets ugly, right? | ||
| That's where we have a real problem in this country. | ||
| Yeah, because it's the Supreme Court. | ||
| You remember those people that tried to knock the Biden bus off the road? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Imagine how they're going to react if they think the Democrats are going to try to steal it. | ||
| There was a bunch of shit that was happening. | ||
| I don't know if you saw the violence in North Carolina today where people were trying to block the polls. | ||
| There was a lot of chaos and police were pepper spraying people at the polls today. | ||
| Jeez. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It didn't look good. | ||
| Doesn't look good. | ||
| It looked awful. | ||
| It's like, goddammit, this is voting. | ||
| Is there a shot that we don't know the answer tomorrow? | ||
| Yes, there's a very good shot. | ||
| We don't know the answer tomorrow, because it might take a while. | ||
| What do you think, if you had to guess? | ||
| If I had to guess, I think it looks relatively close. | ||
| I'd say three days, maybe, we might know the answer. | ||
| God, so the weekend. | ||
| Perfect timing. | ||
| I'll tell you right now. | ||
| Flying the fuck out. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Yeah, you're getting out under the wire. | ||
| I'm getting out tomorrow at 6.30am. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| Go right back to the desert. | ||
| Pack your shit. | ||
| Get ready to move here. | ||
| Yeah, it's coming. | ||
| Not immediately. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| I gotta see. | ||
| This might go blue. | ||
| I don't think it is. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| No, I think Trump's hanging on it. | ||
| There's a potential, it's probably very hard, but a potential tie of 269 each. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Okay, that would be so good for the country. | ||
| Then they fight. | ||
| No idea what happens there. | ||
| No, then they slug it out. | ||
| Yeah, then they fight. | ||
| Duel! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Duel! | |
| Imagine if there was a ring that comes out of the basement of the White House. | ||
| Rises up. | ||
| They climb in and duke it out with those fucking Ong Bak fist things. | ||
| There was only a 4% chance it would end like that, and it seems like that might happen. | ||
| What happens, do you know? | ||
| What happens in what? | ||
| In case of a tie? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They re-vote? | ||
| I think it goes to Congress. | ||
| Hold on, let me look. | ||
| Because this is from FiveThirtyEight, who is everyone's favorite account today because of the polls, but it says, in that case, Biden would need to carry either Nebraska or Maine's second congressional district to win. | ||
| And I don't know why those two specifically... | ||
| I'm gonna look. | ||
| I actually don't know what happens if it's a tie and I'm gonna look now. | ||
| Does Nancy Pelosi default or something? | ||
| In the United States, a contingent election is the procedure used to elect a president or vice president in the event that no candidate for one or both of these offices wins an absolute majority of votes in the Electoral College. | ||
| A contingent election for the president is decided by a vote of the United States House of Representatives, Congress decides, while a contingent election for the vice president is decided by a vote of the United States Senate. | ||
| Oh my god, that's interesting! | ||
| Because that would mean... | ||
| The Democrats in the House would pick Biden to be president, and then the Republicans in the Senate would pick a Republican to be vice president. | ||
| And then what, the Supreme Court picks? | ||
| Does it default? | ||
| Does it go further? | ||
| During a contingent election, each House state delegation casts one vote to determine the president rather than a vote from each representative. | ||
| Senators instead cast votes individually for vice president. | ||
| The contingent election process was first established in Article 2, Section 1, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Okay. | |
| It was subsequently modified by the 12th Amendment in 1804. The phrase contingent election is now found in the text of the Constitution itself, but has been used to describe the procedure since at least 1823. Wait, so I read over that real quick, and you kind of glossed over it. | ||
| It says that the president and vice president are indirectly elected, so that means they each are picked separately? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right, that's what I just said. | ||
| This is really a good system. | ||
| I know it's going so fast. | ||
| This is a very bad system. | ||
| I said you have the Congress picks the President and then it's the Senate that picks the Vice President. | ||
| The Senate is Republican right now and Congress is Democratic right now. | ||
| So you'd have a Democrat at the top of the ticket and a Republican at the bottom of the ticket. | ||
| I think you'll have a winner. | ||
| I think it's just because somebody's going to win. | ||
| Somebody's going to win these things. | ||
| I think it's going to all come down to Pennsylvania and I still think it's very likely Biden wins Pennsylvania because they've got to count all the mail-in ballots and they're overwhelmingly Biden. | ||
| But, but, I will say this. | ||
| Listen, if, if Biden wins this election and he's got less than 300 electoral votes, yet again, Trump outperformed the polls. | ||
| He absolutely outperformed the polls. | ||
| Because all the polls coming into today, if you just copied and pasted, it would have been Biden 351 electoral votes. | ||
| So that means Trump outperformed the polls yet again if Biden only wins with like 278 or some shit. | ||
| So with Pennsylvania in their mail-in votes, like how carefully are those going to be monitored? | ||
| Like the counting of them. | ||
| This could get really weird. | ||
| It can get really weird. | ||
| It can get really ugly. | ||
| We know Trump is probably already going to try to downplay them and get them dismissed. | ||
| The Republicans are literally, they're doing lawsuits in certain states to try to get the ballots dismissed. | ||
| Why is 70% of the state voting absentee? | ||
| COVID. COVID. A lot of states have been doing it like that where a lot of people don't want to show up to the polls. | ||
| That just seems odd to me because you can go to the grocery store. | ||
| You can go somewhere else. | ||
| I don't know why you can't pull a lever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That seems odd. | ||
| Seems odd. | ||
| There are going to be lawsuits where they try to throw them out. | ||
| Why Pennsylvania won't finish counting absentee ballots until Friday at the earliest? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh! | |
| Oh, that's a long time. | ||
| They're busy dealing with Tuesday's in-person voting. | ||
| Wow, Friday. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| So here we are on Tuesday. | ||
| Wednesday, Thursday. | ||
| And then Friday. | ||
| See? | ||
| Three days, like I said. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| When Pennsylvania approved so-called no-excuse absentee mail ballots last fall, meaning any voter can request one without citing a reason, the law didn't allow officials to begin canvassing mail ballots until polls close on election night, according to Lisa Shafer, the executive director of the County Commissioner's Association of Pennsylvania. | ||
| By the way, if Biden loses... | ||
| The Democrats will immediately blame the voters as if the voters let him down. | ||
| Not that he wasn't a good enough candidate. | ||
| Because this is exactly what happened in 2016. They immediately started blaming the voters. | ||
| Yeah, well, they're going to be bitter. | ||
| You know, people, when they lose, they blame all kinds of fucking other things other than their own performance. | ||
| Well, hey. | ||
| We had a few filet of fish. | ||
| Yeah, we tried. | ||
| We had a few laughs. | ||
| If people think that we weren't taking things seriously, that's what we're doing. | ||
| That's exactly what we're here for. | ||
| This is not a serious election show. | ||
| But thank you, gentlemen. | ||
| Thank you for having us. | ||
| That was a lot of fun, indeed. | ||
| Thank you for coming and explaining things to us. | ||
| My pleasure. | ||
| You're welcome. | ||
| No, that guy. | ||
| Thank you for mocking our system. | ||
| Thank you, Jamie, for being a big Snopes fan. | ||
| Appreciate that. | ||
| shell one heart Jesus Christ Jamie's he's a Give him some respect. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I kind of shimmied away from him when I saw him at the door. | ||
| I was like, alright, are you good, bro? | ||
| He's got the antibodies. | ||
| He's the most safe person in this fucking room. | ||
| He's coughing his mouth and he'd brush it right off. | ||
| Alright, well, that's it, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Thank you for tuning in. | ||
| I hope I didn't disappoint you too terribly. | ||
| Hope you're not mad at me for voting for someone who can't win. | ||
| Good luck and enjoy the riots. | ||
| Hope you're not mad at Tim Dillon and Kyle Kalinske not voting at all. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Chaos. | ||
| It's going to be chaos coming up in the next few days. | ||
| Yeah, I hope. | ||
| I really think it is. | ||
| Boy, I hope we can get through this as a country. | ||
| But listen, on the bright side, more people voted than ever. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Thank you. | |
| I think we're aware now. | ||
| That's a great point. | ||
| The importance of voting. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Tim Dillon Show on YouTube. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Tim Dillon has a great show. | ||
| You can watch his podcast. | ||
| Secular Talk. | ||
| Secular Talk on YouTube. | ||
| Yeah, well, I was going to get to that eventually, but if you want to talk over Tim Dillon's plug, we're New Yorkers, is what we do. | ||
| Tim Dillon also is on the road. | ||
| He's hitting the road again, starting to do a lot of gigs. | ||
| Yeah, we're trying. | ||
| We're seeing. | ||
| They're cutting capacity. | ||
| We're rescheduling some stuff, but we're going to fight through it. | ||
| They killed the Chicago show, right? | ||
| They're just killing them left. | ||
| Then they're also going like, hey, some of these clubs are like, how about doing 24 shows? | ||
| And I'm like, no, no, no. | ||
| Let's wait two months. | ||
| So we'll see. | ||
| Well, thank you, guys. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Bye, everybody. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Peace. |
Export Selection