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[Insider INTEL] - LtCOL. Karen Kwiatkowski : US GOV In Israel’s Hands.

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	Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for judging freedom.
	Today is Tuesday, October 7th, 2025.
	Colonel Karen Kwadkaski is here with us on just a moment on the United States government in Israel's hands.
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	Colonel Kretkowski, welcome here.
	Uh, my dear friend.
	I've been asking all of our guests today a similar opening question.
	In your view from the evidence use you've observed, did the Netanyahu regime know about October 7th before it happened?
	Yeah, I think absolutely they did.
	I mean, we there were suspicions, even at the time because you know, Egypt and other um allies said they warned uh the IDF or their counterparts about what was happening.
	But what's come out since then, of course, confirms that because IDF soldiers themselves, other people uh, you know, are talking about stand down orders that they received that morning prior to the thing.
	So um, I think this was the thing that they needed.
	This was the false flag.
	Wasn't a false flag in the sense that it really happened, but it was intended to happen to allow uh this uh horrendous overreaction and basically the the elimination of uh of Gaza, or at least the takeover and elimination of Palestinians that live there.
	When you say stand down orders, you mean somebody in a position of authority ordered the troops not to repel the invaders.
	Well, what I read, um, the the normal, you know, the the borders, and this is what uh uh Charlie Kirk had said, you know, in his own observations.
	You know, he had been to these borders and he said they're quite well protected.
	But guys that were their duty was to show up and run and stand their shift on the wall, so to speak, um, were told you don't need to come into work today.
	You can just stay like stay stay out, sleep in, not necessary.
	And this has been reported in Israeli media.
	So um it's it's actually a domestic scandal for Israel, um, in the sense that people are wondering, you know, why would this allow to happen?
	This must be what Netanyahu fears, maybe it's just the tip of the iceberg, I don't know, will come out if and when there is a grand uh investigation of what happened.
	For sure.
	And and actually that's also why he doesn't want peace, any type of peace, because even if that piece is is not uh if it's good for Israel, so to speak, and it's terrible for the Gazans, even that will allow that breathing space, that political space to Go ahead and analyze what happened.
	And we we do, you know, haven't we done this ourselves with all of our various wars?
	You know, when they kind of uh come back, we we we revisit and we say, oh, wait a minute, we were wrong with that.
	And that'll happen in Israel.
	But when it does, of course, um, being a much smaller country, uh, you know, they know their leaders, right?
	I mean, nine million people, uh, that's the state of Virginia, it's got nine million people in it.
	They're connected to their prime minister, they're connected to the members of the Knesset.
	So um there will be accountability in Israel if it if it is allowed to be uh, if they have the time and space to look at it, which they will as soon as peace breaks out.
	Is there uh a moral argument to be made that um Hamas fighters morally legitimately uh attacked to the military of a country that was illegally occupying theirs?
	You know, morally I I can't say, but legally, an occupied uh uh territory and an occupied population has a right to defend themselves against the occupier, particularly when that occupier is recognized as such and has a set of rules they're supposed to follow, including caring for the people under their purview, and Israel, of course, does not do that.
	You know, this is a uh, I mean, Gaza was a concentration camp before this.
	Um so uh yeah, it morally, of course, for me it's not a of course there's a moral problem, but I think for the world, there is we have agreed that legally occupied people have a right to self-defense, and um so it's it makes perfect sense to me.
	But again, you know, I don't I don't promote war.
	Yeah, and I don't like war.
	Um was there a better way to go about it than the paragliders on October 7th?
	I don't know, probably, but uh are you um sensing or recognizing the uh loss of support for the behavior of the Israeli government in Gaza amongst uh American Jews, even amongst them a Jewish American neocons, even amongst some prominent Jewish American neocons?
	Among average Jewish Americans, I think there's a 50-50 split.
	Um, and that is incredible when you think about how indoctrinated they are to promote and value the Zionist state of Israel.
	Um they are indoctrinated, American Jews are indoctrinated into that.
	So 50% of them don't support it.
	That is amazing.
	Um, I think for the neocons, if particularly those that that surround and infest Washington, DC, and make policy, these guys, like all people that are interested in policy, they are looking strategically, they're looking long term, they're trying in their little pea brains to play chess, and so they are extremely concerned that all of the uh soft power and plenty of the hard power that Israel brings to bear is being wasted.
	And certainly we know uh uh economically, you know, they're suffering.
	And that type of thing, the fact that the world doesn't like Israel, the world doesn't want to buy Israeli products, the world doesn't want to invest in Israeli bonds, you know, that is was kind of slow to build, and it's going to be even slower to restore.
	And I think the neocons around Washington that normally would love Greater Israel, they were they they were on the bandwagon for all the wars that we fought, you know, for greater Israel.
	But I think they see um the risk much more clearly uh to Israel than maybe even some of the folks inside of of Israel, Israel's own government do.
	Uh and they're aware of that.
	So they're they're pulling back and going, you know, you've gone too far.
	What is the relationship as you understand it between uh Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President uh Donald Trump?
	Your your piece, uh dated October 3rd, but now published everywhere, excuse me, examines some subtleties.
	It's not an ironclad control, but it's almost like um quarterback to coach.
	Yeah, well, you know, I always try to understand that because to me it's a mystery how a man like Trump, a politician like Trump could get elected on America First on ending overseas involvement, overseas uh uh interventions and war, could could so quickly turn into uh you know the Netanyahu's puppet.
	And um, so I'm trying to understand what it is.
	And I think uh coach, I think Netanyahu, he looks upon him as a coach, and he and he, you know, Trump admires success and he admires strength.
	And so in his circles, who also many of the his friends admire Netanyahu for political success and political strength.
	So Trump is predisposed to admire Netanyahu.
	But what concerns me is he is um being coached by Netanyahu when he should be being coached by the people that voted for him and the populist movement in this country, which could care less about uh Israel.
	They like Israel, but it's Israel is no different than any one of the other 180 countries of the world.
	Um that's that's who should be coaching Trump.
	But instead, Trump is taking his cues from Netanyahu, and he's adopting an idea of enemies all around us, and that's not particularly Trump.
	That is, in fact, the opposite of what made Trump attractive as a candidate.
	He didn't see enemies everywhere, he saw the United States as potentially very great.
	But he is starting to talk like enemies are everywhere, and where does he get that from?
	Well, we know where he gets it from.
	There's only one other country that thinks enemies are everywhere, and that's Israel.
	Uh, and they have made it, they have made that to be a fact.
	Um, the other thing that really concerns me, there were three areas that I looked at, but the the one that I think is the most uh concerning is his intolerant language.
	Now the left will say, Oh, we always told you, you know, Trump's very intolerant of others, but that's not they didn't watch Trump closely.
	He's not intolerant.
	He's he's actually he likes people, he's a people person.
	But the language of intolerance, um the the threat language that Trump has been uh increasingly using, and and even we see it with uh with with Putin, who has who who absolutely this harms the United States when we try to threaten Putin language-wise, and and Trump is doing that increasingly, and that I think he picks up from Bibi Netanyahu.
	And I think we could solve the problem simply by not having Netanyahu come to Washington, you know, I think four times in a year.
	That's enough.
	He doesn't need to visit any time for the you know, four times that's good for four years, you know.
	Let's wait till Trump has a new president.
	When the new president comes, Netanyahu can come back if he's still around.
	But um, he is visiting overwhelmingly, he is exercising his influence uh with Trump, and we're seeing a result.
	And the result, of course, is terrible for Americans who voted for Trump.
	Uh, and it's also terrible for those who voted against Trump because he is forgetting who his people are.
	They are not uh Zionists, okay?
	Those are not Trump's people, and um he's he's forgetting that.
	Here's um Netanyahu recently, and you'll you'll hear a phrase in here that obviously is intended to get to Trump.
	Everybody will know it when they hear it.
	Chris, cut number nine.
	One is developing now ballistic missiles that are intercontinental ballistic missiles for 8,000 kilometer range.
	What does that mean?
	They add another 3,000 kilometers, and they've got under their gun, under their atomic guns.
	New York City and Target, Washington, Boston, Miami, Mar-a-Lago.
	Okay.
	So that is a very great danger.
	You don't want to be under the nuclear gun of these people who are not necessarily rational and who chant death to America.
	Of course, he's going to uh he's going to say that all of our military people say this is all a bald face lie.
	They don't have uh missiles that can reach Boston and Los Angeles and Mar-a-Lago.
	Why would they and they don't have nuclear warheads?
	That's right.
	And even if they had the reach in the nuclear warheads, why would they be interested in destroying those cities?
	You know, if America behaved properly, um, as Trump promised it would do, we would have no enemies.
	Okay.
	We might have some economic competitors with this tariff obsession, but we would have no enemies.
	And um, so uh, but yeah, Netanyahu is very nervous in fact he you know he's um increasingly i don't know if it's stuttering is the right word but he he is he's nervous netanyahu appears to be nervous and it's probably because Gaza is the Gaza war's ending one way or the other and um well he can't stay in office once the war is over can he i don't i don't think so i don't think so and also the folks that backed him his his coalition will blame
	for not finishing what was started.
	And what, of course, was started was intended to be a complete ethnic cleansing.
	I mean, they used the word in Israel, members of the Knesset used the word ethnic cleansing.
	It's not completed, and it wouldn't be completed by their standards until there were no Palestinians left at all in Gaza or the West Bank, for that matter.
	It's almost as if, and I'm taking this phrase from George Orwell, and you used it in your piece, Netanyahu is trying to persuade Trump that war is peace.
	Yeah.
	Well, for Netanyahu, it is.
	You know, for Netanyahu, he cannot survive politically.
	He may not survive as a human being when peace breaks out.
	He will be blamed by those who wanted to exterminate every last Palestinian, and if they aren't able to do that, they will blame Netanyahu for it.
	And, of course, you know, you can't be 30 years in politics in a, you know, a place like Israel or the, the United States without being a little bit crooked.
	So he has enemies within.
	He has political enemies.
	He has people that hate him.
	He, you know, even within the IDF, even within Mossad, they are probably not completely happy with him.
	So he's highly vulnerable once the war in Gaza goes to the next phase, which is why he's standing in the way of that.
	And it's funny, Trump said, you know, you're so negative.
	You're so, you know, used to foul language that Netanyahu is so negative about everything.
	And it's like, Trump, wake up.
	up yes he is because if peace breaks out he's he's a he's a goner wasn't the whole premise of the Zionist project that there would never be a Holocaust or ethnic cleansing or collective punishment based upon a characteristic of birth and haven't they gone 180 degrees to perpetrating the worst uh known Holocaust since World War II.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And we've got the evidence on this one just because of technology and social media.
	So there's plenty of documentation of what's happening and plenty of government leaks as to what's happening and what is intended to be happening.
	And it is contrary to the messaging of why Israel was founded.
	But if you think about it, you know, the Zionist movement started at the turn of the century, really, long before World War II.
	and that was sure there were historical pogroms and abuse and that kind of thing but the Zionists who envisioned a state for Israel it it wasn't because of the gas chambers in World War II.
	Those came later and they were complementary to populating Israel.
	So those terrible things and never again and that kind of thing, those are slogans and sloganeering that supported the Zionist state project, which had been going on long before that.
	So what I'm saying is that if you use propaganda, I'm not going to accuse you of, well, you didn't believe your own propaganda.
	Well, of course not.
	That's why we call it propaganda.
	If we believed it, we would call it truth.
	Right.
	I'm going to switch gears for a minute because President Putin has just made a rather extraordinary statement about Ukrainian troops retreating.
	I think we have it.
	Chris?
	We are developing new kinds of weapons and supplying them to our troops.
	Despite all its attempts to resist, the enemy has been retreating across the front line and
	I guess there's the chief regime is trying to show that it can succeed it wants to show it to its Western part by targeting Russian sides behind the front lines we will ensure the security strategic and civilian sites,
	including the energy infrastructure today during this meeting.
	We will review the situation in the special military operation.
	We will hear a report of our military command.
	And we will discuss the supply of weapons and our plans for the near future.
	Let's start this meeting.
	So something's happening over there.
	We just talked to your colleague Matt Ho about the very weak state of the Ukrainian military.
	Now the Russian president goes on national television to say a lot of them are retreating and we are using new arms with which they're not even uh familiar.
	Maybe this is finally uh coming to an end.
	Yeah, I would I would think so.
	But the problem is the belief system in uh most of uh the EU and some of Washington DC has that belief system hasn't been corrected yet.
	Um even Trump was saying just what a couple weeks ago, oh I'm sure Ukraine will take all their property back, take all their territory back, and um with what?
	What are they gonna how are they gonna do that?
	How are they gonna populate it?
	Since a good many of their population has departed and their young men are dead.
	So um it this this idea is crazy.
	But I would I mean four years, almost four years of this war.
	Why it makes no sense?
	Do you think that um the Netanyahu regime is blackmailing President Trump?
	Well I think he may be well, I it I don't put it past him to blackmail.
	I don't know if it's if they're blackmailing Trump himself or his family members, um, or his somehow his business interests or whatever.
	Um, you know, when when I saw months and months ago after the or a year ago after the pager attacks, and I saw that Netanyahu had brought into Trump a gold pager, a golden pager as a gift to commemorate the pager attacks, I saw that as a threat.
	You know, I I don't know how Trump saw it, but if somebody had conducted a sabotage operation like that that really scared pretty much everybody on the planet who holds a cell phone in their hands, you know, the idea that how vulnerable these systems might be.
	And somebody hands me a golden page, and this is after we already know that you know, Netanyahu after Netanyahu's visits, we have bugs in the offices of of uh Western capitals, including Washington.
	So yeah, I would see that as a threat.
	The fact that Trump didn't, uh or doesn't seem to is strange to me.
	But I think it's it's his family members.
	I mean, he's got does the does the Secret Service sweep the White House for bugs after Netanyahu and his entourage have spent an afternoon there?
	Well, I mean that uh Boris Johnson, excuse me, the rather failed foreign minister of Great Britain claims he found a bug personally put by Netanyahu and Johnson's personal bathroom in his uh personal uh lodgings at 10 Downing Street.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Um, I'm sure that they sweep I'm I'm sure that if nothing else, we've got Tulsi Gabbard up there, and I imagine she's making sure if the Secret Service isn't, and you know, we haven't heard a lot from Secret Service, so I'm hoping they have good people that are that are doing that.
	Um, Trump does seem to occasionally let us know that he doesn't completely trust Netanyahu or Israel, occasionally, but that's like maybe five percent of everything that he does, and the other 95% is that you know, these guys are our best buddies, and we'll do anything for Israel.
	And um, it's it's very much he's out of sync with the American people right now.
	And um, again, feelings and uh attitudes uh develop over time, like this anti-Israel BDS global movement.
	It took a long time for it to develop uh in response to what they're doing in Gaza.
	But the thing is it'll take even a longer time to reverse it.
	And I think this is why Netanyahu and Israel very concerned about young people in America, concerned about Charlie Trump turning away from uh uh Netanyahu specifically.
	You know, they're very worried that these attitudes will develop somewhat rapidly, or they'll seem to, and then they will be persistent, they will be hard to reverse.
	And I think they know that, which is why he's paying what, $7,200 for a pro-Israel post on social media.
	Right.
	So it's important to them, but strategically, they are uh way too late.
	Way too late.
	Karen, a pleasure, my dear friend.
	Thank you for joining us.
	I commend to everybody.
	Coach BB leaves a mark.
	You can get it at Judge Knapp, Lou Rockwell.com and elsewhere.
	It's a great piece.
	All your pieces are great.
	This one really uh really fascinated me.
	Thank you, Colonel.
	All the best.
	Thanks a lot, Judge.
	Appreciate it.
	Sure, sure.
	A busy day for you tomorrow at eight in the morning, Professor Gilbert Doctorow at 11 in the morning, Colonel Douglas McGregor at one in the afternoon, Aaron Mate at two in the afternoon, Professor Glenn Diesen at three in the afternoon, the great Phil Giraldi,

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