Sept. 30, 2025 - Judging Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano
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| Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. | |
| Today is Tuesday, September thirtieth, two thousand and twenty-five. | |
| Ambassador Chaz Freeman will be with us in just a moment on President Trump stumbling figuratively and literally at the United Nations, but first this. | |
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| they're working, but I can't hear you. | |
| I think we're nothing still. | |
| No. | |
| Nope. | |
| Nope. | |
| I could hear the advertisement perfectly, no problem. | |
| But then could not hear uh Judge Napolitano. | |
| Okay, can you hear me now, Ambassador? | |
| Yes. | |
| All right. | |
| What a delight. | |
| I'm sorry about it. | |
| Thank you, and apologies, uh, everyone for the occasional uh glitch here. | |
| Uh as I was uh attempting to ask you before we get to your take on President Trump at the UN. | |
| Yesterday he and Prime Minister Netanyahu announced a sort of neo-colonial plan uh for the uh dominance of uh Gaza. | |
| What why would uh Hamas give up its arms and surrender the hostages? | |
| Well, I don't think they will. | |
| Um, you know, this is uh another uh example of uh the United States and Israel colluding to produce a proposal uh that uh that uh that has all sorts of uh false assumptions in it. | |
| One assumption is that Hamas has been defeated, it hasn't been. | |
| Another assumption is that you can ignore Palestinian nationalism and you can ignore democratic opinion among Palestinians and impose a government on them. | |
| Another assumption is that uh somehow you're gonna get Arab states to send troops and pay for the reconstruction of Gaza, uh, which by the way they've done before on multiple occasions, but uh history shows that whatever they build, Israel then destroys. | |
| So this satisfies no one. | |
| Um I note that in Israel, Bizalil Smotrich, the um uh ultra religious uh uh Zionist uh has rejected the plan outright, uh saying that it will end in tears. | |
| Uh I don't think we've heard from Hamas. | |
| I don't, you know, I think uh people in the Arab world are very eager to please the United States. | |
| Uh they respect our power, if not our wisdom. | |
| Uh, but I don't think this is going to fly. | |
| And um what role would Tony Blair have? | |
| Would he be sort of the colonial under this uh scheme? | |
| The colonial governor uh of Hamas doing whatever Israel and the United States want. | |
| Well, that's been his historic role, yes, so why not? | |
| Um I'm told that he likes to delegate, doesn't like to be hands-on. | |
| Um so he will be he will preside over what you correctly call the colonial enterprise uh in Gaza if this happens. | |
| But as I said, I don't think it's going to happen. | |
| Yesterday, uh President Trump, this was not uh televised. | |
| We were told that it happened. | |
| There are some still photos of it. | |
| Forced uh Prime Minister Netanyahu to uh apologize to Cutter for the uh assault on a residential neighborhood in Doha. | |
| The apology, of course, came three weeks uh after the assault and was probably forced upon Netanyahu because Trump was worried his 400 million dollar jet might be demanded back, or the the cutter uh uh royal family would uh rescind its plan to invest 400 billion in some American uh uh enterprise. | |
| I mean, where does this get us? | |
| Um absolutely nowhere. | |
| Um this is um uh more important, I think it was this was preceded right after the attack by um the president saying that uh there would be no recurrence of such an attack, and immediately being contradicted by Prime Minister Netanyahu, who said Israel will attack anyone anywhere and any win. | |
| It feels like it. | |
| Uh and he pretty much reiterated the same thing in his uh speech to an empty room at the UN General Assembly. | |
| So uh I don't know. | |
| Uh this is performative, uh uh in in and and uh shameless, and uh I suspect it does not really reassure the gutters. | |
| Netanyahu at the uh UN was uh uh cold, indifferent, demanding, threatening, offering no empathy, empathy, sympathy, or understanding when he addressed this uh audience, which was literally empty, but for Israeli uh officials and embassy employees. | |
| Right, And the uh in the visitors gallery packed with with uh with Israeli uh supporters uh or Israelis, I'm not sure which. | |
| Um but uh no, that speech um was in every sense um an indication of the extraordinary isolation that Israel has achieved for itself internationally. | |
| Um you just uh can't begin to overstate uh uh the uh significance of a mass walkout on that speech. | |
| I think President Trump, who's so closely identified with Prime Minister Netanyahu, was fortunate that people didn't walk out on his speech. | |
| Instead, they sat in what was pretty much stony silence, with a few exceptions and listened. | |
| Uh and I know from um friends who uh who know uh some of the diplomats who were sitting there listening to our president that um they were texting things like this man is utterly insane. | |
| How can Americans not see that? | |
| So it was silence, but it wasn't respectful. | |
| Here's um Netanyahu at his worst articulating the myths he has been perpetrating about October 7th, every single one of which uh has been debunked by Western and Israeli sources, Chris. | |
| They beheaded men. | |
| They raped women, they burnt babies alive, they burnt babies alive in front of their parents. | |
| What monsters? | |
| And these monsters took them more than 250 people hostage. | |
| And those included Holocaust survivors, grandmothers, grandmothers and their grandchildren. | |
| Who takes hostage grandmothers and grandchildren? | |
| Hamas does. | |
| So far, we've brought home 207 of these hostages, but 48 still remain in the dungeons of Gaza. | |
| This was um an outdoor rave RAVE concert. | |
| It's hard to believe that there were grandmothers. | |
| Well, there might have been, and maybe some um very sexy uh elderly women dancing there. | |
| Um but you know, as you listen to that, the amazing thing is that the crimes that he's reciting are all crimes of which the Israeli defense forces are guilty. | |
| Um and we're talking about rape, what about sodomy and rape in prisons, Israeli prisons? | |
| Talk about taking grandmothers and grandchildren hostage. | |
| What do you think Israel's doing on the West Bank and elsewhere? | |
| Um talking about um burning people alive? | |
| Israel's done that by bombing tents. | |
| We've seen we've seen the videos. | |
| So this is uh an amazing effort uh at perverting uh the truth and attributing to others uh what Israel has been doing. | |
| Uh, I'm not saying, you know, I'm uh there was no evidence of any of that, of course, but um it's possible it happened. | |
| Um we still uh are living with this incredible set of lies. | |
| He went on, by the way, to deny that there was any starvation in Gaza. | |
| He said Israel had generously provided food throughout. | |
| Um, and uh, you know, so I don't think anybody outside Israel is his supporters there, uh, gives this man any credibility at all. | |
| The uh starvation has been well documented by every medical group that uh has uh ventured into Gaza and has chosen after they leave to speak about uh what they have uh seen. | |
| If I may, uh judge, um you know, there is not a single, not a single human rights investigative organization or international body, including the International Court of Justice, the International Criminal Court, the UN Human Rights Commission, that has not concluded that what is going on in there is the deliberate slaughter of people by bombing and sniping and starvation. | |
| Uh so this is a genocide, everyone knows that. | |
| Um Mr. Netanyahu can stand there and talk to an empty room and deny it. | |
| Uh, but it's empty because everybody is tired of his lies. | |
| And the American taxpayers paid for every bullet that enters the brain of Palestinian babies fired by fired by uh Israeli uh reservists, many of whom are terrified of being there. | |
| What is Netanyahu doing to Israeli society? | |
| Well, you know, you can talk about what he's doing to Israeli society, which is shredding uh any vestige of unity causing people to emigrate, uh, people to lose hope in the future of the Zionist state of Israel, | |
| um, dividing people, uh caving into uh religious zealots who are essentially fascistic in there thinking all these are terrible things, which a few very brave and very articulate Israelis constantly denounced to no effect. | |
| But I'm really more concerned about the impact on our country. | |
| Uh, we are in lockstep with this with Israel. | |
| We have gone from enabling Israeli uh crimes against humanity to actually participating in them. | |
| Uh and um so not only are we supported uh the horrors that have been committed um since October 7th, actually, we submit we we enabled the horrors that happened before October 7th. | |
| Uh when the Palestinians burst out of Gaza, people should have said, well, you know, what were the Israelis doing to them before they burst out? | |
| The answer is quote, mowing the grass, in other words, periodically bombing, strafing, sniping, uh murdering people who might uh be an effective opposition to uh you know in a in a concentration camp. | |
| So, you know, this didn't start yesterday. | |
| 95% of casualties over the course of the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza have been Palestinian, not Israeli. | |
| Uh so we talk about terrorism, it uh the if the shoe fits Israel shouldn't wear it. | |
| What is your uh view of the uh reception of the murderer uh Al-Jalani uh at the UN? | |
| Well, it's an extraordinary uh event, really, because uh this is a man who was who had a bounty on his head uh not so long ago. | |
| Uh he's been theatrified by uh the West, the United States, and Great Britain primarily. | |
| Um I don't think he has, in fact, achieved sainthood. | |
| Um in fact, what's going on in Syria is pretty ugly. | |
| Um he is either not in control or he is complicit uh in his followers' uh murders of Alawites and Druze and other minority Christian minority as well. | |
| Um this is not a subtle situation. | |
| He is uh a uh protege of uh ours of Israel's of Turkey's. | |
| Uh he is now uh abjectly dealing uh with Israel to no avail because the Israelis are expanding the the land that they're taking in Syria and conducting uh raids uh all over the place, um Druze separatists, backing Kurdish separatists, and yet uh he's really you know, he he's uh he's on the payroll, evidently. | |
| Uh and um so he got a fine reception in New York, um and uh I think there were two elements to it. | |
| One was realism, he is in charge, sort of, at least in Damascus, and we should deal with people who are in charge, not pretend as we do in Venezuela that they're not. | |
| And second, um we have had a media blitz, uh, you know, wiping out all of his past uh behavior. | |
| Maybe he has in fact repented of his sins and is now on a different course. | |
| Uh but um what's happening in Syria isn't very firm evidence of that. | |
| Here's uh General Petraeus kissing uh Al Jelani's ring, Chris number 24. | |
| As you know, Mr. President, I spent over 37 years in the U.S. Army, uh, and I was a soldier, not a diplomat. | |
| So I hope you'll forgive me if I speak with the directness of the old soldier that I am as I get the first question out of the way. | |
| Because the fact is that we were on different sides uh when I was commanding the surge in Iraq. | |
| Uh, you were, of course, uh detained by U.S. forces for some five years, including again uh when I was the four-star there. | |
| And here you are now as the president of Syria. | |
| I just want you to tell you really, on behalf of all the people who are here, uh, that this conversation has truly filled me with enormous hope. | |
| Uh, it has been very, very heartening and illuminating. | |
| Um, your vision is is powerful and clear. | |
| Uh your demeanor itself is is very impressive as well. | |
| Um, how are you holding up under all this pressure? | |
| Uh are you getting enough sleep at night? | |
| Uh again, I've been there. | |
| Uh, and it is so very, very hard. | |
| And your many fans, and I am one of them. | |
| uh we do have worries Wasn't that disgusting? | |
| Well, uh, David Petrez uh, you know, is a talented general, but among his talents are political smarminets. | |
| What you just saw was a prime example of that. | |
| This is part of the campaign to prop up um uh shout out and Julani. | |
| Um yes, I mean I didn't enjoy watching that. | |
| What uh what's the status of uh Hezbollah these days? | |
| Uh Nazaral has been dead for about a year, and at least on the public stage, they've been rather quiet. | |
| Yeah, they are quiet. | |
| They have been rebuilding their strength. | |
| They were badly hurt by uh the various Israeli assaults on them and weakened um but they do represent the majority of opinion in Lebanon, apparently. | |
| Uh, and the effort to disarm them is going nowhere. | |
| Um, basically disarming them given the weaknesses and the unreliability of the Lebanese army, uh, would uh leave Lebanon with no defense against Israel, which is of course the objective that we are pursuing in um in cooperation with Israel. | |
| Um they're not beaten. | |
| Um they're there. | |
| Uh they are still resistant. | |
| Um they still have uh from Iran, even if it is the supply chain supply lines are now difficult. | |
| Um but the main strength that they have is popular support. | |
| Wow. | |
| Uh Ambassador Freeman, thank you very much. | |
| Sorry for the uh audio problems at the outset, but we are recovered nicely, and you were very patient, as always, and it's a joy to be able to chat with you. | |
| We'll look forward to seeing you next week. | |
| Great. | |
| Thank you. | |
| And coming up later today at two o'clock this afternoon, Aaron Mate and at three o'clock, Colonel Karen Kwakowski, Judge Napoleon for judging freedom, |
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