Sept. 2, 2025 - Judging Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano
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Lt. COL Karen Kwiatkowski : Hunger As a Weapon of War.
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Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for judging freedom.
Today is Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025.
Colonel Karen Quadkowski joins us now.
Colonel, you have a great piece at judgenapp.com, LouRockwell.com and elsewhere called Are We Hungry Yet?
And that is basically basically about the use of hunger and the regulation of food as a weapon of war.
I want to talk to you about that at some length.
You and I are both farmers.
We both produce food.
You raise cattle.
I raise, no surprise, garlic.
And we both understand the joys of producing the fruits of the earth and the problems of dealing with government regulation.
But before we get to that, um there seem to be publicly some meaningful objections in Israel from significant people.
the head of the military, the head of Shin Bet, the spying agency, the head of Netanyahu's own Security Council, the foreign minister himself, to this invasion and occupation of Do you view the domestic political objections to what Netanyahu wants to do as substantive or just performative?
I I think probably they are substantive because the people who um the even the Zionists who love Israel, this is this is their home that they've built, you know, this is their military, this is their intelligence agency, they want it to uh be powerful and they can't, it can't be powerful if the country's economy is gutted.
It can't be powerful if nobody in the world will work with Shinbet, if no one will work with Mossad, if no one will trade with the Israelis, um any if no one will buy Israeli products.
If none of that happens, and the Red Sea is, you know, they've already the port of Elad is already gone bankrupt, it's closed.
So without a functioning country in Israel, these intelligence agencies and these warmongering agencies in Israel uh cannot function.
So I think it is substantive.
They are looking at the reality, which is not what Americans see on the media, it's not what Western media reports, but they know what the reality is very harshly, I'm sure.
And um, it's a dead end.
It's a dead end for Israel as a country.
I think they recognize that.
Uh Scott Ritter and some of your other colleagues, Larry Johnson uh have opined that the Israelis cannot succeed, that they'll never defeat uh Hamas, uh, that Hamas is continually being rearmed, digging new uh tunnels,
acquiring new recruits, and though the West doesn't report this because there are no Western reporters there to report it, killing large numbers of Israeli soldiers.
Yeah.
Are are Israeli reservists failing to show up?
Well, we know that they are.
We know I think 10 or 15 percent of uh reservists are not responding to their call-ups, and there's a number, I don't know what the number is, it's another percentage like around 10 or 15 percent of people who are who have served in Gaza or the West Bank in this accelerated destruction of the West Bank, they are not coming for their second, you know, they're not responding.
I'm not going back, basically.
That's their message.
And it's in some ways it's it reminds us a little of uh, you know, of the Vietnam.
I mean we had a draft then, so people had to go.
Um course in Vietnam, we weren't fighting for anything that benefited the country, and it was a clear case that what We were doing in Vietnam was not benefiting the homeland of the United States.
And so that was a clear argument.
But I think maybe a lot of the guys in the IMF and gals who are seeing things that make them come to that same conclusion that Israel is not benefiting, that their safety of their country is not benefiting from what they are doing in Gaza.
Why does there appear to be?
And I realize that you're uh farmer with a career in military and not a psychiatrist, but why does there appear to be such an indifference on the part of the Israeli public to the egregious over the top gut-wrenching suffering of the Palestinian people caused by the Netanyahu regime?
Well, they don't see Palestinians as people.
You know, um, I have to set out rat traps in the barn, right?
And uh, I don't have any sympathy for the rats that I catch in my traps.
I don't have the tiniest bit of sympathy for them, and I don't feel guilt, okay, because these guys are my enemy and they are stealing from me, and they add no value.
So I kill them.
And I don't feel anything about that.
And I think we have to recognize that Israeli society from the very beginning, from the beginning of Zionism, when they decided to go to Palestine, they knew there were people there, but these people didn't matter, they did not matter, they do not matter, and they're taught on really through schools, through university, through the society, through many of their own synagogues, they are taught that Palestinians are not people, Arabs are not people, they are subhuman, they are vermin.
And this is you know, it echoes the way that we talked about the enemy in World War II, not just how Germany or how Hitler spoke of Jews and others that you know he very much bad language.
I'm talking about the way the war propaganda went and the early parts of uh world war one and world war two.
Uh the enemy was there to be destroyed, and the whole of Israeli society, unfortunately, the most of it, 90% of it, 88% of it, what has the as they pull, feel that this is a war against a subhuman enemy, and he must be exterminated, much as you would exterminate uh termites in your house.
You don't feel a bit of problem in doing that, and this is very, of course, uh uh anti-Judaism.
It is very much uh a harm to uh the faith of Judaism.
I mean, if if you're a Jew and this is what you believe, you have a conflict.
If you are a true practicing Jew that thinks about what Judaism teaches, the good stuff that it teaches, and you are embracing this kind of hate and contempt for other people and murder and actions of uh terrible acts against these people, then you are you've lost your religion.
Well, one of the things that Judaism teaches, and and it occasionally is referred to as Judeo-Christian, is the right to life that every human being has uh intrinsic value uh and then and an immortal soul and the right to live and the obligation to keep that soul free of sin.
Now, the the thought of crushing a people because of their nationality because you want to steal their land is 180 degrees opposed to that very basic teaching.
Am I right?
Yeah, you're absolutely right, and and this is a big this is a you know, they they they see this war, this thing they're doing in Gaza, the West Bank, this greater Israel, they see it as existential.
Well, in terms of for their souls, what they are doing is existential, and they are losing that existential battle uh by supporting the Netanyahu government by supporting things that clearly are wrong and immoral and criminal.
Um, they're gonna have to pull themselves out of this big hole that they've dug for themselves, and also you mentioned you know, they can't get rid of Hamas.
It wouldn't matter if they got rid of every single Hamas and they burned every Hamas uniform, okay.
It will the resistance to what has been done to uh Palestinians and Arabs by the Israeli government and others, the resistance cannot be stopped, it cannot be stopped, and Unless, of course, they could kill every single one.
But that is not possible.
It is not possible.
And especially when the whole rest of the world stands with free, free Palestine.
You know, the rest of the world is saying, you know, we will we're we are ashamed by what you're doing.
So the storyline, the narrative of Palestinian rights is winning, um, even though the Palestinian people, particularly in Gaza, are dying.
So Colonel Kwadkowski, according to Senator Ted Cruz, you know what's coming, Karen.
And according to uh Ambassador Mike Huckabee, uh, God the Father uh says you have to support present the policies of present-day Israel, meaning the government of Benjamin Netson.
No, the two of them have actually said that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, for Christians, of course, uh, you know, Jesus was the first anti-government guy, as far as I could tell, at least for Christians, he set the example of uh ridiculing stupid government practices and rules and elevating what God wants us to do much higher than what governments might want us to do.
And that's certainly a Christian thing.
I'm not sure about other main religions of the world, but you know, you think about uh uh some of the you know Confucianism, uh various things.
Oh, sorry, I've got my dog here.
Oh, how adorable, yeah.
But you know, the I think most major religions um put God above government.
Um, in fact, I think, and I know this from years of experience attending public events, you know, when we pray, we pray for the government to be guided by by God.
That's what we pray for because we put God higher than government.
Now, I don't know what Ted Cruz and uh Huckabee where they put, apparently they put uh the Israeli government above all, and I think we're sweet you know, we see a lot of that in Washington.
Um, you know, that uh we're the greatest, we're the second greatest country in the world.
You know, I think one of the uh Trump's appointees said that just crazy stuff.
But uh yeah, we need to get back to basics about what's right and wrong.
And when you when you boil it down to right and wrong, it's very clear uh what's right and what's wrong.
Well, uh how are the Israelis using not just hunger but food, the adulteration of food, the restriction of food as weapons, and you know that I'm eventually going to ask you how the American government controls us by its regulation of food, but we'll start with the Israelis, yeah, yeah.
Well, for years, um, in the administration of the occupied territories and of Gaza, what Israel, the IDF and the Israeli government have done, of course, is limit all items, and that includes food uh and water,
even that go in and trade items that come out of these occupied territories, and particularly with Gaza, uh, you know, they've had a number of wars in every several years, there's some sort of thing, and there was a blockade.
And during that blockade, it was in the news, and that's when I became aware of it, that they actually monitor and ration per capita calories.
So they are doing calculations of every 50-pound bag of flour of rice, of uh cooking oil, whatever that comes in, and they calculate it down what is the calories here and divide it by the number of people they've counted uh that are going to get this.
And then they say once we've reached the target of something like I think 1900 or 1850 calories, which you can lose weight on that diet, actually.
So it's it's obviously not it's a bare minimum maintenance uh caloric intake, and they limit that.
Now they you know, we also know they limit concrete and building materials and things like that, but they actually limit calories going into Gaza, and then of course, under this current situation, we've seen lots of video uh and commentary relating to Israelis,
settlers, not so much the IDF, but the IDF stands by and does nothing while Israelis, average Israelis see trucks going into Gaza with food, And then they attack those trucks, steal the food, and destroy it, throw it on the ground, you know anything to starve Gazans.
This is kind of supported by the government.
But the government itself has set this set the standard.
So the government in a real war where one country has declared war on another can attack the supply lines, including the food supplies going to the military.
But it cannot do the same with respect to civilian supply lines and food going to civilians without committing a war crime.
Well, the Israelis obviously don't give a damn about that.
They've been committing war crimes since 1948.
That's right.
Now, historically, you know, that's the modern sense of what a war crime is, which we have evolved since World War II, and maybe a little with the influence of World War One.
But we have evolved into this idea that these things are war crimes, that food for civilians and civilian uh housing and health care are not to be targeted.
That is a modern thing.
Israel is fighting under war.
They're, you know, they're exterminating Gaza under rules that um are basically might makes right.
Uh if they can do it, they're going to do it because their objective is to, you know, to destroy.
So they they seem to think whether it's the government or the people themselves, I'm not sure, but they seem to think that these uh 20th century concepts of war crimes don't don't apply to them at all.
And um, I don't know if that is something that you know, if you're God's chosen people, then you know you don't these don't apply to you.
I don't know, but I mean this it's obviously it doesn't really work out logically.
So uh yeah, they're committing war crimes, but they are uh also living in a very savage way in the sense of might makes right and I will exterminate my enemy because you know we have all these ancient historical examples of uh where the people get killed in mass, uh the people are starved in mass.
And actually, you know, the we've food is using food as a weapon.
I mean, the Soviet Union alone, um, well, Cambodia under Pol Pot uh in Mao's China, you know, food as a weapon to control a civilian population to weaken it to manipulate it, very common.
And uh food is uh we don't like to think about that, but that's how governments view food.
You um powerful uh raise cattle on your farm, the cattle produce milk, you make cheese.
Why is it that you can't sell me unpasteurized milk as long as you tell me it's unpasteurized, if that's what I want to put in my body, and I'm a willing buyer and you're a willing seller.
Yeah, you know that the feds would come down on you like a ton of bricks if you did that.
But how can how can the government do that?
Well, um, you know, we've seen them how they treat the Amish, who are uh, you know, will often sell uh raw products or cheese made from raw milk, which is obviously how you have to kind of do it really, and and they uh it's it's really states that do this, but they're all supported by the USDA, which you know, we has I think eight or nine employees for every actual farmer in this country.
So the USDA is a massive government agency, and then every state has its own agricultural uh department of some sort, they're named, they're called different things in different states, but these guys uh uh it it I can't even describe how they think.
I've I met the guy that was in charge of the Virginia uh the VDAC, which does agricultural policy, and I talked to him, I asked him a simple question.
This was probably 12 years ago.
So I'm at a state fair, and I asked them this question, and his answers uh they they are not, I'll just put it this way they are not in touch with the food freedom movement, they don't understand agriculture in any way except for corporate agriculture,
and it makes sense because that's who largely supports them and lobbies these state and the federal agencies for policies, and again, you know, we see how corporations lobby for policies that will help them or or be neutral for them, but will cause Barriers for new competition to enter into that marketplace, whatever it is.
I don't care if it's coal or or if you're making steel or you're producing chips, or you're making or you know, big ag producing food that's very standardized and uh massive and uh very uh resource intensive.
Uh those guys will lobby to make sure that nobody else threatens their market share.
And that's really what I think why we see policies that are anti-food freedom.
But the good thing about food freedom and that is that that is something that is accessible to everybody.
You know, it's it's not the food's not accessible, but if you want to grow something, I don't care where you live, you can grow something.
And if you want to sell that to your neighbors, you can do it in the black and gray market.
Um, if enough of us do that, there's not enough of them to stop it.
But uh yeah, it's there's an arrogance there, a very much typical state government arrogance that we can tell you what to do.
But they do fear food is power, food is energy, food sustains a rebellion.
The um folks in the chat room are asking me to ask you what is the dog's name.
Oh, blue.
The dog's name is Blue.
Blue.
Well, the dog is a beautiful uh dog.
I have Chris, not not my producer.
My producer is a wonderful, brilliant, gifted human being, known to the chatters as producer Chris.
My little uh German Shepherd Beagle Mix Chris, who is not with me at the moment, is also uh Chris.
And uh sometimes when I broadcast from my home in New Jersey and he's uh with me, he jumps up just like uh your uh blue uh did.
Karen, thank you very much uh for all this.
Very, very dark times.
I don't know how this is going to end.
Trump is totally uh indifferent to this suffering, totally supportive of whatever Netanyahu wants to do.
This is uh the worst Holocaust on the planet since that perpetrated by the Nazis uh in World War II.
And the United States taxpayer is funding it.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Um yeah, it's hard to say how we're gonna get out of this one.
Uh how it's gonna end for Israel and also what it's gonna do to us as Americans, because um the popular opinion in America is very much, I think with what you're saying, you know, what what I'm saying, whatever so many of us are saying, you know, this is not something we want to be a part of.
We want it to stop.
Um, and we elected a president to represent us in that regard.
He told us he would end wars, and he's not only not stopping it, but some of his plans for for Gaza and some of his plans even for uh the West Bank and Southern Lebanon are coming right out of Tel Aviv with with no question whatsoever.
We're rubber stamping uh Tel Aviv's criminal acts.
And it's it's not a good thing.
Colonel Kodkowski, a pleasure, uh, my dear friend.
I'm sure uh blue gives you as much joy as you give him.
And uh thank you very much for your time, Karen.
Uh great stuff.
We'll look forward to seeing you next week.
Absolutely.
Thank you, Judge.
Thank you.
Uh coming up at three o'clock today, Phil Giraldi and at four o'clock, Max Blumenthal.