June 26, 2025 - Judging Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano
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| Hi, everyone. | |
| Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. | |
| Today is Thursday, June 26th, 2025. | |
| Professor Jeffrey Sachs is here with us on Why Does Israel Break Every Ceasefire? | |
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| Professor Sachs, a pleasure, my dear friend. | |
| Thank you for joining us. | |
| What is your understanding of what the status of negotiations between the United States and Iran was at the time that Donald Trump said you have two more weeks to negotiate and then he dropped his bombs two days later? | |
| They were entering the sixth round of negotiations. | |
| And after each round, both sides said that the negotiations were constructive. | |
| This, I think, is what Israel feared most, which was a diplomatic agreement between the United States and Iran. | |
| These were not frozen negotiations. | |
| Iran was negotiating in good faith, and not only was the topic of the nuclear verification on the table, remember, Iran has said for decades it does not want a nuclear weapon, but it does want an end of the U.S. sanctions against Iran, and it wants an end to the threat from Israel and the United States against Iran. | |
| So they were making progress on that issue, but also apparently making progress on the issues of peace more broadly in the Middle East, including discussions about Iran's ending support for insurgencies and so forth as part of a broader peace. | |
| In other words, the negotiations were proceeding. | |
| There was absolutely no reason under the sun for Israel to attack other than to derail the negotiations or for President Trump to claim that he was somehow enforcing things other than just doing Israel's bidding, which is the typical position of the United States government. | |
| Was the potential American recognition of a Palestinian state on the table? | |
| Might Netanyahu have been terrified of that? | |
| Well, one thing that was happening was that in those days, there was supposed to be a high-level UN event to implement the two-state solution. | |
| Israel's attack pushed that aside. | |
| That may have been one of the real calculations. | |
| I don't know that for a fact, but the timing suggests that to be the case. | |
| There was supposed to be a meeting at the United Nations that countries were preparing for implementing the two-state solution. | |
| And as we've discussed before, the wars in the Middle East are Israel's design. | |
| These wars are Israel's design to prevent a state of Palestine and to assert Israel's regional dominance. | |
| This is what we have paid for, what the region has suffered for for decades. | |
| And this last eruption was exactly in the same mold. | |
| There was no reason for it other than Israel derailing negotiations, trying to provoke conflict. | |
| Now, when I, and the United States playing along, part of the United States system, the typical deep state, wants this. | |
| This has been a U.S. venture together with Israel all along. | |
| Trump is a weak guy. | |
| He went along with it, I think. | |
| I don't know what his real view is, but he did what any American president does, which is to say how wonderful Israel is and to go for it. | |
| He posted today that B.B. Netanyahu is the greatest leader in the history of Israel. | |
| This is, of course, pathetic, but it's also reflective of the weakness of the United States for whatever reason in the face of Israel's demands. | |
| When I asked our friend Max Blumenthal, who has tremendous sources in Israel, his opinion of how Trump was able to reject the consensus of the American Intelligence Committee articulated in public and under oath by his director of nationality. | |
| Oops. | |
| If you look at the dates, it's just a few days after it happened. | |
| So they didn't see it. | |
| They said it may be very severe. | |
| Do you have a message for the intelligence community, though, in terms of unvarnished information getting to you? | |
| That it's not. | |
| I don't really have a message. | |
| I would say issue the report when you know what happened. | |
| I wouldn't say that it could be severe or maybe not. | |
| They use the word severe. | |
| It could be severe or maybe it's not. | |
| So people like you picked up and said, oh, it's not severe. | |
| No. | |
| The report was not a complete report. | |
| Yeah, the message was probably wait till you know the answer before you discussed it. | |
| And sir, would you not have a public opponent to your Zelensky meeting for a tactical reason with President Prince? | |
| Let him answer this question. | |
| Hello, Mr. Secretary. | |
| There's a reason the President calls out fake news for what it is. | |
| These pilots, these refuelers, these fighters, these air defenders, the skill and the courage it took to go into enemy territory flying 36 hours on behalf of the American people and the world to take out a nuclear program is beyond what anyone in this audience can fathom. | |
| And then the instinct, the instinct of CNN, the instinct of the New York Times, is to try to find a way to spin it for their own political reasons to try to hurt President Trump or our country. | |
| They don't care what the troops think. | |
| They don't care what the world thinks. | |
| They want to spin it to try to make him look bad based on a leak. | |
| Of course, we've all seen plenty of leakers. | |
| And what do leakers do? | |
| They have agendas. | |
| And what do they do? | |
| Do they share the whole information or just the part that they want to introduce? | |
| And when they introduce that preliminary report that's deemed to be a low assessment, you know what a low assessment means? | |
| Low confidence in the data in that report. | |
| And why is there low confidence? | |
| Because all of the evidence of what was just bombed by 12 30,000-pound bombs is buried under a mountain, devastated and obliterated. | |
| So if you want to make an assessment of what happened at Ford, you better get a big shovel. | |
| God. | |
| They're not very smart. | |
| They're not very smart in terms of understanding evidence, and they're not very smart in terms of cajoling, browbeating us to believe their empty rhetoric. | |
| There is now a large amount of evidence that suggests that whatever happened was a very limited action and a very limited setback, if at all, to Iran's ability, if it were to pursue that, to have nuclear weapons. | |
| It doesn't want to, but its ability to do so was not impaired. | |
| Talking about the patriotism of the U.S. pilots or their bravery or all of that, that can all be true, but it has nothing to do with the actual outcome of this attack. | |
| The fact of the matter is that as far as many analyses show, the Iranians removed their enriched uranium from the sites that were going to be under attack. | |
| There were trucks seen by satellite, large convoys that came into these installations and that went out of them afterwards and dispersed to various parts of the country. | |
| The analysis that I've read at a technical level of what these very powerful heavy bombs could do suggests that they could not have destroyed this complex or that it would be very, very unlikely. | |
| The fact that the president declared complete success moments after the attack shows that basically we're in the age of spin and Hollywood were not in a period of analysis and reality-based policy. | |
| They need this to be successful, whether it was or is, and successful, I mean, on their terms, that it did devastating permanent damage to Iran's capabilities. | |
| Most analysts doubt this. | |
| There are real reasons to doubt it. | |
| The doubts don't come from one leaked report. | |
| They come from many different directions. | |
| The United States has shown no evidence whatsoever. | |
| The U.S. government, I mean, to back up its claim. | |
| And by government, actually, I mean the President of the United States and Secretary of War, as he was rechristened yesterday by President Trump, have shown no evidence whatsoever that confirms any of the claims that have been made. | |
| So this is really the reality that we face. | |
| We're in a world of spin. | |
| We're not in a world of reality. | |
| A world of spin is very dangerous, of course. | |
| It is not only counter to reality, but it probably gives a very profound sense of impunity to these few people who decide, |
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