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June 17, 2025 - Judging Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano
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Phil Giraldi (Fmr. CIA) - Will Israel Attack the US Navy Again?
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Hi, everyone.
Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
Today is Wednesday, June 18, 2025.
Phil Giraldi will be here with us in a minute.
Are you ready for this?
Should the United States fear an attack from Israel?
He'll explain.
Right after this.
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Hello, Giraldi.
Welcome here.
Welcome back from your travels.
We missed you last week and glad you were with us.
There's really not very much to talk about.
Are you kidding?
Is the United States in danger of an Israeli attack masked as an attack from the Iranians?
Well, no.
I think basically Iran has never posed a threat to the United States.
This has been a fake argument that's been trotted out by the Israel lobby and by the Israelis themselves in the form of that.
This is the kind of thing to fool the Americans into doing stupid things.
So I don't think there's a threat coming from Iran.
I think, of course, that the real threat to our liberties and to our former government comes from Israel.
Well, I know I agree, but I'm talking about the Israelis making it look like it was Iran that attacked us, so they have their false flag.
You know, they once attacked us and killed Americans, and they weren't pretending it was somebody else.
They acknowledged it was them.
This time they may make it look like it was the Iranians, so as to bolster Netanyahu's argument that somehow Iran poses a threat to the United States.
Yeah, that's, of course, the other story, the other narrative.
We look back at the USS Liberty back in June 1967, in which 34 American sailors were killed and over 170 were wounded, and every attempt was made to sink the ship and kill everyone on board, including Israeli aircraft, which had their Star of David insignia covered up.
And gunboats, machining life wraps and that sort of thing.
They did everything to kill everyone and sink everyone.
And this might have been with, I hate to say it, with maybe a little bit of cooperation from the U.S. government in the form of Lyndon B. Johnson.
But anyway, that's another story.
Now, that was a definite false flag.
It was intended to get the U.S. Just like today with Iran, to get the U.S. involved in going against, in a war against Israel's perceived Arab enemies.
And in this case, it would have been set up to make it look like it was the Egyptians who had done it.
And the expectation was that if the ship sank and the narrative went out, And also, incidentally, Russia had an airbase in Cairo at that time, so maybe the Russians would have been rolled into it too.
Do you think Trump is serious about leveling a city with 18 million inhabitants?
Well, of course, he's serious, but this man is an idiot and doesn't know what is entailed by that kind of destruction.
He's also just said about an hour ago that he doesn't know whether he's going to do it or not do it.
And this is in terms of war with Iran.
And of course, that would be on the side of Israel.
The fact is that if a president is so ignorant that he doesn't realize that the...
The interests of the country that he leads and represents are what is the critical factor in whether you go to war or not.
It's not a question of whether some clown at the top somehow getting elected and deciding that he's the world ruler.
This game is getting very old and it's getting very tiring.
I read today that some opinion polls were suggesting that even Conservative Republicans who identify with MAGDA are beginning to get a little tired of it.
This was verified by some people who were doing polls on specific attitudes towards going to war.
So talking about attitudes on going to war, we'll go back to before you were doing your travels.
Isn't it a certainty that CIA, MI6, and probably Mossad aided the Ukrainian drone attack on four Russian air bases on a train line and a bridge?
Yeah.
And in fact, you know, this is something I've been alluding to, having been a former intelligence officer on the ground.
And somewhat familiar how these things work.
I suspect in a lot of cases in Ukraine, Ukraine and Russia, before they went off the rails, were of course like sister countries and very close language, affinity, religion, and a whole lot of other issues.
I believe there were a whole lot of stay-behinds after Russia abandoned communism that were set up.
By foreign intelligence agencies and also by some of the local intelligence agencies.
So I believe you had a lot of these people already sitting in place with this equipment getting smuggled across the border one way or another and just waiting for the word to go.
So I think that's a lot of what happened.
Why would Mossad be helping the Ukrainians against Russia?
Isn't the last thing Netanyahu wants His animosity from the Kremlin.
Well, I can put it in one sentence.
Jews hate Russians because of the largely false narrative about the pogroms under the czars and other things.
If you talk to Kind of leftist Jews intellectuals in the United States who are very involved in foreign policy.
You'll see this anti-Russian sentiment surfacing all the time, even though many of these American Jews are ethnically at least part Russian or maybe even complete Russian.
But it's that kind of historical searing into the brain about who did what to whom.
That I think drives a lot of the sentiment against Russia and also it has that same effect here in the United States where many so-called intellectuals at our universities and think tanks also come out of this mold.
Isn't it also a certainty that CIA and MI6 worked with Mossad?
On the Israeli surprise attack last Thursday night.
I think that's an absolute certainty.
And I think that a number of people you've had on your program have come to the same conclusion.
It would not have happened for any number of reasons.
So we're even looking at...
The sharing of intelligence on where all these top leaders were would have been something that came from the bigger and more capable intelligence agencies and passed on to Mossad.
And again, passed on by Mossad to its own agents on the ground.
In Iran, who have been successful at killing scientists and other figures, so we know they're there.
And so, yeah, I think that this is a given, that this was done as a joint job.
And of course, our esteemed president immediately denied any knowledge before admitting that, yeah, he knew about it.
First he said he didn't know about it, then he said he did.
Before he said he did, I guess he didn't.
Talked to his de facto Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, who issued a statement saying we don't know anything about it.
I mean, and Rubio hasn't said a peep about anything since issuing that statement on Friday morning.
Here it is Wednesday afternoon of the following week.
Well, he might be getting their lies straight.
He might be terrified after what happened to Tulsi Gabbard.
He might.
He might.
I don't know if you...
Well, you know what?
Before I show you the clip of Tulsi Gabbard, I'm going to show you a clip.
You know I love you, Phil, but this will make your blood boil.
These are the highlights of Netanyahu's appearances before various bodies in the United States.
It's a montage that CNN put together.
It's 30 years.
Of Netanyahu's gross exaggerations and lies about Iran.
Hang on to your chair, Chris.
The deadline for attaining this goal is getting extremely close.
And Iran, by the way, is also outpacing Iraq in the development of ballistic missile systems that they hope will reach the eastern seaboard of the United States within 15 years.
By next spring, at most, by next summer, at current enrichment rates, they will have finished.
The medium enrichment and move on to the final stage.
From there it's only a few months, possibly a few weeks, before they get enough enriched uranium for the first bomb.
The foremost sponsor of global terrorism could be weeks away from having enough enriched uranium for an entire arsenal of nuclear weapons.
That would place a militant Islamic terror regime.
Weeks away from having the fissile material for an entire arsenal of nuclear bombs.
If not stopped, Iran could produce a nuclear weapon in a very short time.
It could be a year.
It could be within a few months.
Less than a year.
Now, most of those statements he knew were lies because of this.
Chris, run Tulsi Gabbard.
Not the one with Trump on the plane.
But just her testimony, which you've enhanced.
The IC continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon.
Not building a nuclear weapon.
And Supreme Leader Khomeini has not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003.
The IC continues to monitor closely if Tehran decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program.
Since 2003, the intelligence community, American, British and Israeli, knew that there was no development of a nuclear weapon.
That's 22 years ago.
And still he attempted to perpetrate those lies which were believed by his audiences, which had had their campaigns financed by AIPAC.
Do I have that right?
It's convenient for him because he can just keep repeating the same line over and over again.
I don't imagine that there's too much critical review of what he says on many media outlets in the United States.
I mean, this guy has always been taken as full of rectitude, for lack of a better word.
And this guy, in fact, is a con job who basically would be very happy to To see the United States kind of, you know, just get bled white by him and his colleagues until we have no more to give them.
Then if we just blew away in the wind, he would care less.
Wow.
Is Trump in his pocket or is he in Trump's pocket?
I think they're both in each other's pockets, but the fact is that it seems to me that Netanyahu And I think he has successfully manipulated him.
And he's also obviously worked through some of the people working for Trump who view the world in the same way that Netanyahu and his colleagues see it.
So it's that kind of game going on.
I keep hoping that I think the one thing that would tip Trump the other way is that if Netanyahu were to do something personally very, very insulting to Trump, that would be.
But of course, I don't think Netanyahu is dumb enough to do that because Trump and his ego Otherwise, he doesn't care about Palestinians.
He doesn't care about Iranians.
He probably doesn't even care about Jews.
Who does he care about?
He cares about himself.
Here's that ego on display.
You may have seen this.
This is the brief Q&A by a reporter on Air Force One on Sunday night.
Bearing in mind that Tulsi Gabbard, under the law, is his sole exclusive informer of American intel.
Where the hell does he get anything from any other source?
Watch this.
People always said that you don't believe Iran should be able to have a nuclear weapon.
But how close do you personally think that they were to getting one?
Because Tulsi Gabbard testified at March that the intelligence community said Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon.
The IC continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon.
I don't care what she said.
I think they were very close to having it.
Stay in that job if he says I don't care what she said.
Well, so these long conversations on the phone that he has with BB obviously has convinced him that the truth is something different.
And if he's really convinced of that, he's more stupid than I've given him credit for.
Where do you see this going, Phil?
I see this going to war very soon.
I think Trump is weak.
I think he's going to be manipulated into this.
And I think it's going to be a disaster.
For everyone involved, including the Israelis, including the United States.
You know, this kind of stuff just has a tendency to snowball.
And there are a lot of people in the world community now who really despise Israel for what it's doing and also the United States for its ability.
If the United States, if Trump would pick up his goddamn phone one day and call up Bibi and tell him, okay, B, today it's over.
No more money, no more weapons, no more political support.
You've been carrying out a genocide.
You are a disgrace to the human race, and you should spend the rest of your life in jail.
And apart from that, I have nothing to tell you.
Wow.
Somebody who agrees with you is the Ayatollah, who just released what I understand is a rather incendiary statement that Chris has translated.
Here it is.
The Iranian nation will not surrender to anyone in the face of imposition.
The Zionist enemy has made a big mistake, committed a big crime, and must be punished, and is being punished.
The damage America will suffer if it makes a military intervention in this field will undoubtedly be irreparable.
have been.
The damage America will suffer if it makes a military intervention into this field will be irreparable.
I think I've quoted that precisely.
Do you think that Trump and Rubio and Hegseth and whoever else advises him, I guess Rubio has two jobs there, he still has Mike Waltz's old job, advise him of the likely consequences of the things he says and threatens to do?
Well, I would say the facts tell us that maybe they actually have been a little upfront with it because they've been shifting around troops and allegedly making these hundreds of bases in the region less insecure from attack.
So somebody's waking up to it, but that doesn't mean it's going to be a shift in policy or anything like that.
I mean, we see this kind of thing, this policy is kind of marching ahead under its own speed, and it's going to be very dangerous to apply the break at this point.
I'm trying to picture him before the joint session of Congress or even addressing the American people.
I don't know how he can make the case for war in light of what What is Bibi relying on?
His intelligence community agrees with ours that they haven't had anything to do with nuclear weapons since 2003.
Yeah.
Well, I think the other thing we're all forgetting about here is that Israel...
It does not have the capability, obviously, of taking on Iran in any conventional way, but Israel is nuclear armed.
And all of this nonsense about we're going to do away with Tehran, the city of 18 million people, I can see a nuke in the imaginings of Donald Trump and Bibi Netanyahu, and this is real scary.
Where this goes, it's just something totally unpredictable.
But it's something that the Israelis have played with before with their Samson option.
The whole idea that if they're losing a fight, you destroy the world.
Might the Pakistanis get involved?
And we know what they have on the side of Iran.
The PACs have already said that they...
They haven't necessarily threatened that they'd go nuclear, but they have threatened the fact that they have warned that they would be supporting Iran.
So take that where you want it to go.
Well, of what would that support consist?
Do they have ballistic missiles?
We know they have nuclear.
Oh, they have a very respectable military.
They're very well equipped with missiles.
And, you know, they are one of the better militaries in Central Asia.
If you go back to our experience in Afghanistan, the Pakis were always kind of in there and up on things, and they would make for very, I think, helpful allies.
For a country like Iran.
But Iran also has, of course, those ties, as you noted, with China and Russia.
Before we go, this will make you laugh a little bit.
Part of the cabal in the Senate that is trying to tug Trump towards war, Lindsey Graham, Richard Blumenthal, Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz.
Senator Cruz made the mistake of sitting down with Tucker Carlson two days ago.
Carlson, who, of course, was once one of Donald Trump's intimates in his inner circle, and now is being blasted to the skies by Trump because Tucker, God bless him, is against these wars.
Anyway, just watch the first few minutes of this interview.
You've never seen Ted Cruz squirm.
Like you're about to see.
How many people living around, by the way?
I don't know the population.
At all?
No, I don't know the population.
You don't know the population in the country you seek to topple?
How many people living around?
92 million.
Okay.
How could you not know that?
I don't sit around memorizing population tables.
Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.
Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million?
Why is that relevant?
Well, because if you don't know anything about the country...
Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran?
They are Persians and predominantly Shia.
Okay, this is cute.
Okay, I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran.
You're a senator who's calling for the overthrow of the government and you don't know anything about the country.
No, you don't know anything about the country.
You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
No, I'm not saying that.
You're the one who can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill General Soleimani and you said it was bad.
You don't believe they're trying to murder Trump.
Yes, I do.
Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation.
Okay, really believe that.
We're carrying out military strikes today.
You said Israel was.
Right.
With our help.
I said we.
Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.
Well, you're breaking news here because the U.S. government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity at all.
We're not bombing them.
Israel's bombing them.
You just said we were.
We are supporting Israel.
This is high stakes.
You're a senator.
If you're saying the United States government is at war with Iran right now, people are listening.
Wow.
That is a wow.
That's incredible.
The guy, first of all, demonstrates that he doesn't know anything about who he's killing.
And then he doesn't even have his facts straight.
Incredible.
Incredible.
You are aware of the fact that Senator Tim Kaine of New Jersey and our good friend Tom Massey have introduced legislation.
In both houses of Congress to stop Donald Trump from going unilaterally and going to war with Iran.
So this is kind of an interesting development.
I doubt if either of them has the votes.
I doubt that the neocons that run the House and the Senate and the Republican Party would allow those things even to come to the floor for a vote.
I read Congressman Massey's legislation.
It is brilliant in its simplicity.
Under the Constitution, only Congress can declare war, Section 1. Section 2, Congress has not declared war on Iran.
Section 3, there shall be no war on Iran without a declaration from the Congress.
It's three sentences long.
It's brilliant.
And I'm sure that Mike Johnson, who's in Mike Huckabee's back pocket, will not allow it to come to the floor of the House for a vote.
Wow.
Thank you, Phil.
Thank you for all your intellect and ability to understand these things.
Thank you for your great piece at UNS and elsewhere.
And welcome back from your vacation.
We look forward to seeing you next week at your usual time.
Look forward to it.
Thank you.
Thank you, my dear friend.
Coming up at four o 'clock this afternoon.
We found him.
From St. Petersburg, Russia.
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