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Sept. 30, 2024 - Judging Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano
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Anya Parampil: Will the Killing Stop?
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Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
Today is Monday, September 30th, 2024.
Anya Parampil will be here with us in just a moment on when in the Middle East will the killing stop?
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Anya, welcome here, my dear friend.
It's always a pleasure to be with you.
So last Friday, either from a hotel room in New York City or from an Israeli office inside the UN, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu authorized his military to drop 80, 8-0, 2,000-pound United States-manufactured, delivered, and gifted bombs.
In order to kill one person, which he succeeded in doing.
He clearly committed serious federal and state crimes by doing this while in the United States.
He's gone.
He's not going to be punished for it.
How does this end?
It is only going to end until someone steps in and stops Israel.
I wish that it would be my country actually at this point.
In a way, it would be liberating the United States from the fact that our government has been hijacked by the Zionist government that rules Israel.
I mean, I've all my life grown up being told that this is just a facet of U.S. imperialism that drives Israel's role in the Middle East.
And for a long time, I believed that.
But more recently, I've come to the conclusion that why then does the Israeli lobby here in the United States, why do they have to work so hard to take away our rights, our free speech rights, for example, on college campuses?
Why are there so-called stopping anti-Semitism bills passed in U.S. state governments that actually Why is there so much money that has to be spent in order to make sure that our politicians tow the Israeli line or that if they don't, the AIPAC will come spend $8 million in a single congressional race as they did with Cori Bush and make sure that you don't return to office?
Why do they have to run blackmail rings as we saw exposed through the Epstein scandal in order to pressure powerful people into Why do actors or singers,
artists that speak out against the war lose their deals, such as Bella Hadid, the famous Palestinian supermodel, or actors losing their gigs if they speak out for Palestine?
Why do the American people have to be manipulated so much and lied to if this is really about our interests?
It's not.
This is about a rabid dog, the Israeli government acting in the Middle East, pushing.
They're now taking Lebanon.
They're going to start acting up again in Syria.
And they've already declared war on Iran through their actions, committing these assassinations within their sovereign borders.
And yet the world is paralyzed because even though They're at war with Israel.
They fear that if anybody rightfully responds to Israel's actions, there will be a nuclear catastrophe.
And what Netanyahu did in New York was tell the world that he's holding a nuclear bomb over our heads and that he can get away with anything, even in the UN, the institution that was supposedly set up to preserve territorial integrity and national sovereignty, political independence of people everywhere.
Then again, turning around and immediately creating the state of Israel, which kind of should have had us scratching our heads all along.
He's saying that these institutions that are set up are powerless in the face of Zionism.
I mean, again, I wish it was the United States that could go in and stop this war.
This was maybe the one humanitarian war or regime change war that I would still support, is if the U.S. were actually going to go and stop this and save ourselves, really, because it's American troops that are going to die alongside so many innocent civilians in the Middle East right now.
You know, I have friends that are here, Americans that have family in Lebanon.
That have died as a result of these attacks in recent days in Beirut.
And told me that before, in 2006, when Israel came in, there was at least a sense of the safe areas.
But that is no longer the case.
No one feels safe.
And frankly, no one should feel safe because Israel has shown that the gloves are off.
And unless somebody stops this, they're going to go all the way.
Here's Prime Minister Netanyahu's lawyer, otherwise known as the American Secretary of State.
Earlier today on Nasrallah's murder, cut number 13. Hassan Nasrallah was a brutal terrorist whose many victims included Americans, Israelis, civilians in Lebanon, civilians in Syria, and many others as well.
During his leadership of Hezbollah, the group terrorized people across the region and prevented Lebanon from fully moving forward as a country.
Lebanon, the region, the world, are safer without him.
What is gained by the American Secretary of State speaking like that?
Nothing, except that he defends Israel.
This is, again, someone who went to Israel and participated in a national security meeting of the Israeli government following October 7th and said he was there as a Jew, not as the American Secretary of State.
I mean, that again is something that in the past, if someone had accused a Jewish American of dual loyalty, that would be an anti-Semitic trope, but Antony Blinken instead is just saying So this is a very shady character.
He obviously doesn't act in the interests of the United States.
He is lying left and right, as the Iranians have admitted recently.
I don't know why anyone in Iran believed Blinken, but it's recently come out.
That the president there said that they withheld their response to the assassination of Ismail Hania because the Americans, Blinken, told him that there was going to be a ceasefire and a lifting of sanctions on Iran.
Okay.
Iran should have known based on the past 10 years that you cannot trust anything coming out of an American official's mouth, and especially not Antony Blinken, as he's shown time and time again, that he simply exists to litigate the defense of Netanyahu.
It's a very sad time.
This is what I said to my friend, George Galloway in the UK, when I went on his program yesterday, very sad time to be an American, especially when you see people, And the President Biden coming out and saying that we've given those Americans everything we have.
Yeah, except for the billions of dollars that we're sending to Israel and Ukraine in order to walk the planet closer to nuclear destruction.
These people need to be stopped.
And, you know, it is up to us as the American people to stop them.
The problem is we don't really have any options when it comes to withstanding and resisting this.
The Zionist control of our government, because you have Donald Trump, on the other hand, saying that we're going to wipe entire Iranian cities off the face of the earth, while he's saying that he's just there to do the bidding of his top donor, Miriam Adelson.
So the truth, the mask is off.
You know, we can talk about these things openly now because it's in the words of Blinken.
It's in the words of Trump themselves.
They're telling us that they don't represent our interests and that basically we're walking into World War Three or actually just nuclear annihilation at this point.
Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, coming out on X and calling for the U.S. to support a war in Lebanon.
This is an individual whose family will benefit from these wars.
He wants to get in there and develop the real estate, as he already mentioned, the seaside real estate in Gaza.
This is what his family has done for decades.
They come in after the destruction and they rebuild and they cash in.
And that's someone who is running Trump's Middle East policy.
So it's...
I'm envious that you were on George Galloway's show.
I was on once.
He's a great man, and I'm proud that you can call George and me your friends.
Thank you for that.
This will aggravate you, though you may have seen it already.
Here's Prime Minister Netanyahu last week with his, quote, message for the tyrants of Tehran, cut number 11. I have a message for the tyrants of Tehran.
If you strike us, we will strike you.
There is no place, there is no place in Iran that the long arm of Israel cannot reach.
And that's true of the entire Middle East.
Far from being lambs led to the slaughter, Israel's soldiers have fought back with incredible courage and with heroic sacrifice.
And I have another message for this assembly and for the world outside this hall.
We are winning!
Should have said we are slaughtering.
As we speak, Israeli commando raids are being conducted in southern Lebanon.
I don't know if this is in anticipation of a full-scale land invasion, and I don't know what that would look like or what that would bring in, either from Iran or from the United States.
What do you think, Anya?
I think the Israelis are skeptical of going in and doing a direct land invasion because then they would start suffering consequences They just like to bomb.
They like to flatten and kill and then come in and steal the land.
That's what they're doing in Gaza and that's what they want to do in Lebanon.
And, I mean, they've gone so far as to decapitate Hezbollah, which was the main fighting force that could resist an Israeli ground invasion.
I still think that there's a strength there that they would have to confront if they were actually going to bring their troops onto the ground.
But yeah, humanity is losing.
When Netanyahu says that they are winning, it's all of humanity, including us in the United States.
We are losing.
We're losing money.
We're going to lose troops.
Our country has just been sucked dry in order to fund these wars that we never voted for, that no one in our government actually voted for, except And yeah, when I see Netanyahu talk, I'll be honest, I didn't believe in demons until recently, once these Israeli figures started going out there.
And you can see how they've even deteriorated since the war started.
They get nastier and nastier.
They look like cartoon villains that you couldn't even write a script or come up with characters that are more evil than them.
But what does it tell you about the UN if that's how the majority of the world fears and they're incapable of stopping it?
It authorized so many criminal wars in the past from Korea to Libya, and yet it can't authorize a protection force to go in and defend the defenseless in Gaza, even though, according to those visuals we saw, everybody's on the same page except for the European and American states that are just puppets or united in their support of Zionism.
And yet...
It just makes me think the UN should be shut down.
It's a nice place for people to debate and talk about the theory of sovereignty and peace, but it's clearly a captured organization.
And the fact that Netanyahu came there, gave that speech, and then ordered this criminal attack on Lebanon tells us everything we need to know about the power of the UN.
Bad for all of humanity, like I said.
It's not just the United States, but all of humanity is losing right now.
Professor Jeffrey Sachs has spent much of his adult career in and around and negotiating with, being a surrogate diplomat from to and through the UN, reluctantly agrees with you that it has become so toothless.
They can't do anything without the Security Council and the United States.
Once in a while, Britain will abstain, but the United States and Britain will always block Whatever is being approved with almost unanimity over on the General Assembly, if it is perceived that it may restrain Israel.
I mean, what would have happened if Netanyahu had been indicted by the International Criminal Court while he was in New York and then arrested while he was at the United Nations?
It feels like the U.S. authorities would have defended him.
I mean, they should have already detained him for his crimes.
I mean, he's a robber on one hand.
He's just taking all of our money.
I mean, I think we should just take him out on that front.
As an American citizen, we should have some say.
But no, I mean, I covered the UN for years.
I studied international affairs for a while until I found journalism.
And, you know, I really admire the work that so many diplomats do.
They're trying to talk about these issues of journalism.
But as the years have gone by, I just, I can't see it except as anything more than a, as a useless organization.
I mean, they succeed when it comes to like passing secretive treaties that undermine the sovereignty of nations.
But then when it comes to actually defending the rights of people or nations, they're just like, oh, our hands are tied and there's nothing we can do.
And then meanwhile, you just have a bunch of.
It's sad.
I think that there's going to have to be different institutions crafted in the future if people are really going to have any chance of a defense.
Because right now it's clear that all these institutions just exist to serve the people that are abusing us.
Going back to the Israeli invasion or commando raids, whatever you want to call it in Hezbollah, you're as a spokesperson for Hezbollah basically saying, come on in, we're ready for you.
We will face any possible attack, and we are ready.
If the Israelis decide to enter by land, the resistance forces are ready for a ground engagement.
We have prepared and got ready, and with our trust in God Almighty, we are confident that the Israeli army will not achieve its goals, and we will emerge victorious from this battle.
You say the last thing the Israelis want is for their troops to be killed, yet they are conducting these commando raids.
I'm not sure exactly what that means.
I suppose it's a limited incursion here and a limited incursion there on the ground using America's weapons.
weapons, but obviously without, as far as we know, without American troops.
Yeah, but we have American troops in the region that throughout this entire war are just there as sitting ducks.
I mean, are Americans prepared to have And this is what I really don't understand, Judge, is that I see a lot of people in the Trump camp or on the conservative side of these issues taking the right position on Ukraine, but then completely leaving out any discussion of Israel.
I mean, all the high-profile, you could call them Khan Inc.
figures.
They are so articulate and true when it comes to Ukraine.
They say that we're wasting our money and sleepwalking into war with Russia.
But yet when it comes to Iran or the Middle East, they don't really seem to share those concerns.
And so it's dangerous, really, that that people could be so hypocritical because the time is now.
The time is now to call out what is going on, because I think at this point, it's more likely that.
Then with Russia, though, honestly, these are all fronts in the same war.
When you think about it, Russia and Iran, they're allied on the Ukrainian front and on the front, whether it was in Syria, for example.
This is all part of the same war.
The war to weaken Syria was part of a campaign to set up Israel to be in this position where it can now pursue greater Israel without any opposition.
I mean, so were the wars in Iraq.
And Libya, it was all about picking off the states that could resist Israel or would be part of a Russia aligned axis that would prevent this horrifying plan to destroy Gaza that we're seeing now play out before our eyes.
And so eventually I fear that.
But you see now high profile figures around Putin, such as Alexander Dugan, saying that we've waited too long.
We haven't adopted the strategy of our enemy, which is efficiency, precision, and aggression.
And instead, it's almost as if And so at what point are you going to realize that you're actually in the war that you're trying to avoid?
That's my question for some of these officials, because we're striking within Russian territory.
We are now, the Israelis are moving to destroy Lebanon, and they're not going to stop.
So if the end result is going to be the war that you're trying to avoid, at a certain point, you should just stop it.
Someone needs, Who will stop Israel?
Maybe it will be Russia.
I think that these are the conversations that must be happening in Moscow and Tehran because these are closely allied countries.
They can't afford to lose each other.
You know, Russia's not just going to stand by and watch Iran get destroyed.
If Israel attacks Iran or Iran attacks Israel and the United States is drawn in and begins attacking Iran, presumably by naval and air, not by ground, don't you think Russia will get involved?
I do.
I mean, I think that Russia already showed that it got involved to protect its ally in Syria.
And it can't afford to lose its ally in Tehran either.
And I also wonder at what point is someone going to strike a U.S. ship?
or the U.S. bases are already falling under attack.
But, I mean, is that what it will have to come to for Americans to...
I mean, I do not want to see Americans coming home in body bags.
And yet all I see is, you know, the mainstream political establishment and media establishment really walking us toward that scenario.
And like I said, influential figures even around Trump who are right about Ukraine and right about Russia, not understanding that you can't separate Russia.
And, you know, I don't know if it's that Americans think we can just play all these countries against each other because that's not going to work.
Or if it's just this blind spot with Israel that's really going to lead to a mass casualty event.
And that's not what I want to see.
But Americans need to wake up at some point and say that this has to stop.
We can't be against war with Russia and pro-war with Iran because it's all going to lead to the same place.
We don't necessarily see the tactical execution the same way that they do in terms of protection.
But the U.S. keeps giving them weaponry to carry out these attacks.
Our support for Israel security is ironclad, Jake.
That's not going to change.
We are going to continue to make sure they can defend themselves again.
This is an ally.
This is a partner.
And they are under attack every single day.
This is not an ally.
We have no treaty with Israel.
The president has never negotiated one.
The Senate has never signed off on one.
It's just give, give, give, give, give.
There's no bilateral here between Israel and the United States, is there?
In fact, Israel attacked and destroyed the USS Liberty, killing 34 sailors and wounding 200, while the United States stood by and let them do it.
Yes, Israel is not our ally.
It is in fact It reminds me of the quote, I think it was Bill Clinton was caught off the record saying something after a meeting with the Israeli prime minister, like, who's president of the United States, you or me?
And it makes you wonder what U.S. presidents all the way back to Kennedy have dealt with.
Kennedy worked very hard to prevent Israel from developing the nuclear weapon.
There are tapes and letters of him complaining that Israel And unfortunately he was killed along with his brother around the time that his brother was also working to register APAC as a foreign lobbying group.
So it just feels as if for, That actually is what directly led to 9-11 and all the wars since.
So the time to stop it is now, because every day we wake up and find out that Israel has crossed a new line.
And it's scary, honestly.
I don't even think during, not that I was around then, but during the Cold War, that it was as real as it is today.
Because if anybody's going to do it and anybody's going to push us there, it's the Israelis, and they're clearly unleashed right now.
What is going on in Gaza as we speak?
It's off the front pages because everybody in the media, including the alternative media like yours and your husband's and this program, have been focused on the killings in Lebanon.
But have the Israelis stopped slaughtering in Gaza, or is it going on?
It's just not getting the attention of the Western press.
It's not stopping.
All you have to do is go on X and look up Gaza, and you'll see just today I saw Max post about a journalist, another journalist who was killed in an Israeli attack.
And it's really what is happening to the Palestinian people there now is really it's like a modern historical allegory for what happened to Christ himself in that very land where they are like dying for the sins of all of mankind.
They're just being slaughtered, crucified, basically, in front of the world because of our inability to recognize their humanity as children of God.
I mean, it is...
It's the greatest sin against humanity and attack on what it means to be a human that I've ever experienced in my life and that I think mankind has ever experienced because none of those crimes we learn about in school.
Like, the Holocaust were broadcast to humanity in this way.
They had to go to great lengths to hide the truth about what was happening.
And instead, today, in 2024, we can watch a constant stream of dead people.
And, yeah, all that people can do is walk out during a UN speech of this, like, demonic man saying that he's going to keep doing it and then call in a major strike on a new country and open a new front.
It's just, I don't know what it will take for humanity to say, stop.
You know, as horrible as all of this is, you remain brilliant and articulate in your analysis of it and your defense of humanity and peace.
I'm happy that you are on the show and thrilled that you and Max are friends of mine.
Thank you very much, Anya.
Very, very much.
Very deeply appreciated.
Very moving statement you just made.
Thank you.
I appreciate you too, Judge.
We're all in this together.
We are.
We'll see you again soon.
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