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	I'm your host, Craig James.
	Hope you guys are having a wonderful day.
	We have a lot to cover.
	We're going to get into it in just a second.
	But real quick, I want to thank all of you for joining us here today.
	Also, I want to thank our special co-host.
	Well, he's not special.
	He's just a good guy.
	But our good friend and co-host, Mr. Nick No.
	You guys know him, U.S. Air Force veteran, Benghazi whistleblower, military intelligence insider, is here with us on Thursdays and Fridays.
	And we're just glad to have him.
	Welcome to the show, Nick.
	How are you?
	Great crazy.
	Beautiful morning.
	And my mom thinks I'm special.
	So that's good enough for me.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	I mean, it's, I wasn't saying you're not special, but there's different ways of interpreting the word special, I guess.
	So we have a lot to cover.
	I know we do.
	A lot of topics to sort of run through here today on the show.
	I guess, you know, where we can pick off to a certain degree, I guess, is where we left off last week, the never-ending saga that is the Trump administration.
	We're only six months in, Nick.
	I mean, it's really, it's the gift that keeps on giving, if you're in the news, at least.
	There's always going to be interesting stories to report on.
	Of course, President Trump's been calling out Obama for treason pretty vocally over the last several days.
	Here's just one of many examples.
	Here, Trump is being asked by reporters about his thoughts on Obama and what should happen to him.
	Let's listen.
	Have a good time.
	Yeah, thanks so much.
	Mr. President, what would you consider Breakish accomplishments while in Scotland?
	Is it a new trade deal?
	possible as a youthful leader.
	It was a fantastic panel.
	It made you in our country very rich.
	A country is very, very rich.
	It's about time somebody did.
	Mr. President, do you think that Congress should start impeachment proceedings against Barack Obama?
	Well, it's not an impeachment.
	He's head of office.
	Well, it's a good reason.
	You have to recognize the wrong that they've done.
	And it can never be allowed to happen again.
	Thank you, sir.
	You have to recognize the wrong and the wrong that they've done and never allow it to happen again.
	And that's just one of a thousand things.
	I mean, Trump's posted on True Social last few days these posts about treason and who needs to be arrested.
	So there's just like, and there's a plethora of examples that we can go to in understanding that it seems as though Trump is adamant on holding these people accountable for what they did, not to mention Cash Patel coming out,
	I think, yesterday, and announcing that he just, you know, stumbled upon some kind of garbage bags full of more evidence implicating the people involved in this.
	So, Nick, I mean, once again, we're here.
	It's like Groundhog Day all over again.
	You know, 2016, we're back in 2018, I guess, would be the appropriate year.
	Trump's talking about treason.
	These people are going to be held to account.
	What do you see happening here still?
	I mean, you mentioned something about tribunals earlier in the pre-meeting here.
	Yeah.
	Greg, I believe that the only proper way to handle it would be military tribunals because there would be challenges in court that would get jammed up for years about presidential privilege, even though I know they've already decided that.
	They would argue it.
	It just run with that for years.
	So what they've got to do is just bypass that.
	And I think Trump has done that.
	He's going back to the basics with the FBI so that basically their area of responsibility is really just pursue interstate criminal activity.
	And they don't have a legal mandate over terrorism or espionage that belongs to the military prior to 9-11, and that's been restored.
	The FBI did not originate as a counterterrorism force.
	It was a federal police department, plain and simple.
	So, you know, I think that when Trump said it, he said, we're going back to the basics at the FBI speech.
	He meant it.
	And I think that the military is going to handle these cases.
	I think that's true.
	That's true.
	It's really early.
	We have a caller, it looks like.
	They must have something really important to say.
	So why don't we bring them on?
	How's that sound, Nick?
	Bring him on.
	Caller, you're on the air.
	What do you got?
	Well, you were talking about Obama, and it seemed like he tried giving nuclear missiles to Mideastern countries and kind of got caught.
	And then you never heard anything about that.
	I was wondering if you guys had some information about that.
	Well, I can imagine that you're referring to the Iran deal, I'm assuming.
	I think it was Iran.
	They had shipped some nuclear missiles.
	They had gone from North Dakota to the Carolinas, and then somebody caught it.
	They shipped them back, and then that general that caught it got fired.
	With the Davy Crocketts?
	You know, Davy Crockett once where you would drop him down inside of the mortar launcher?
	I don't know.
	You know, I'm not 100% sure.
	I just know it was Obama's reign, and it kind of got glossed over.
	Well, I do think there was some mismanagement under the Obama administration's watch that we could definitely look at quite differently, particularly now with hindsight being 2020.
	Not 100% sure on whether or not he has done that.
	We have to look at the evidence.
	And if something like that were to have happened, Nick, you know this.
	I mean, nuclear is like one of the closest guarded secrets that none of that stuff would ever get out, right?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they're not going to, for nuclear, they're going to keep that secret sometimes.
	And most of the time, it's Q clearance.
	You've got to have that.
	What is it?
	L and then Q. I think it might be L if it's Department of Energy.
	I can't remember for sure.
	It's Q is Department of Energy top-level clearance.
	I think it might be L as a secret level type.
	Well, yeah, there is, I believe there's above top secret clearances that are, you know, compartmentalized type clearances for specific programs.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	I, you know, it would not shock me one bit to find that out.
	But at the same time, anything I say on it would be, you know, just conjecture at this point.
	But thanks for the call.
	We appreciate it.
	Nick, I don't know.
	What do you think?
	You'll do some research over the break.
	Maybe you can find something on it.
	You know, sometimes I got to warn the audience because there's a lot of examples.
	What's the name of that website?
	I can't remember the name of it, but it's that one website that puts out fake news, these ridiculous stories that then get picked up by other people on social media.
	And then next thing you know, it's like you're hearing about this like, you know, SEAL team raids LA building or something.
	You know what I mean?
	I can't remember the name of the website, but maybe somebody will tell me about it in the text over the break.
	But it is a lot of the stories you've got to be careful with, particularly with regard to the nuclear stuff, because as you said, Nick, we're talking about high-level clearance stuff.
	I mean, that stuff just doesn't get out, you know?
	They just don't let it.
	Yeah, it would not be.
	That kind of story just doesn't get out.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
	We're coming back.
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	Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick No.
	So, Nick, we have a lot to continue to talk about here.
	And I think, you know, as we started off with this story, you know, Trump is coming out and he's coming pretty strongly against the treason that was committed against him, but more importantly, against all of us as citizens, you know, in the attempted coup and then the successful coup and everything that followed there subsequently.
	You know, I watched a good portion of Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes' quote-unquote debate, which was really an interview, because it was kind of Alex Jones just continually saying, well, what do you think, Nick?
	Tell me what to think, Nick.
	Tell me what to think, Nick, because I don't, there's some pivot going on with Alex Jones where he, I think he's recognizing that there's a large portion of his audience that is sort of disillusioned by the way Trump's handled Epstein.
	And then I think there's also a portion of his, you know, portion of him, I think, or a part of him that recognizes, you know, he's got to start trying to appeal to this younger audience.
	So he's bringing Nick Fuentes on and trying to, you know, basically ingratiate himself to the quote-unquote groipers, right?
	Nick Fuentes', you know, cult following, which I always find that hilarious that Nick Fuentes always will bash Trump saying he's like a cult leader.
	And then he, Nick Fuentes himself is a cult leader who is like ingratiating himself to these, you know, radically, I mean, in some cases, they're not as radical as others, but, you know, these sort of hardcore right-wing, what he calls groipers, like he has a name for his followers.
	That's not cult-like at all.
	And I was watching Alex.
	And again, I watched the interview, and I don't know if anybody else picked up on this yesterday, but Alex, to me, I don't know if he was tired.
	Maybe he just had a long day, but he was slurrying his words, and he sounded like he had been drinking.
	And that's sad to see, you know, Alex, you know, getting back on the sauce.
	You know, he bounces back and forth between that.
	You know, he's even talked about how he's had drinking problems in the past.
	So I think he was a little bit inebriated during that interview, slurring his words and not really coherently saying much.
	But regardless, listening to that interview, the portion that I did, I listened to about an hour of it.
	I mean, the one thing I was picking up on there is that, you know, they're hyper-focusing on the Epstein stuff, right?
	And like I said before, Alex perhaps is feeling a heavy amount of pressure from his audience because they feel betrayed because of the Epstein file debacle and how Trump's handled it.
	But you hear these like sort of tacit admissions by Jones and slightly, you know, maybe on Nick's side a little bit, where they're saying, well, you know, but we know it's national security and it's the CIA.
	It's like, well, yeah, that's so you know why it's not going to come out.
	And yes, of course, I agree.
	The one, you know, I don't necessarily agree with Nick Fuentes on a lot of things, but I agree with him on some things.
	And I do agree with his analysis with regard to the fact that, you know, Trump being implicated in the Epstein files is something he finds embarrassing, and perhaps that's contributing to his decision on how to handle this situation.
	And I don't mean implicated like he was going to the island and participating in the child trafficking abuse and the blackmail stuff, but in the fact that Jeffrey Epstein is this money laundering CIA cutout billionaire playboy, you know, for whatever it is back in the 80s and 90s.
	And Trump's associated with him because they're in the same social circles.
	And, you know, that guilt by association is what they're going to use to try to tarnish his reputation.
	So Trump probably, you know, for better or worse, doesn't want that to happen or sees that as another reason why the full disclosure is going to be problematic beyond just the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was money laundering for shell companies run by intelligence services that were doing things like Iran-Contra,
	which the government cannot and will not ever come out and just admit, just like they're not going to admit, you know, the truth about Gulf of Tonkin.
	And they're not going to, you know what I mean?
	It's like the stuff they're not going to tell us is long.
	There's a long list of that.
	So all that being said, it was an interesting debate.
	I'm not convinced.
	Nick's a young guy.
	I think he's got a lot of hubris and he really is.
	He's a smart kid, but boy, oh boy, he really does think he's got the world figured out.
	It reminds me of looking at myself when I was his age or a little younger and just, man, you talk to like an 18-year-old kid and they know everything.
	You can't tell them anything.
	And they got it all figured out.
	And it's like, I see a lot of that in Nick.
	And I think he's, and also, you know, the vitriolic stuff aside where he gets, you know, on his, you know, kind of tangential rants and, you know, hateful, hate-laced rants about race and all that stuff, which, you know, is his prerogative.
	I don't agree with him on that at all.
	But, you know, it's just, I see a lot of that hubris in that kid.
	And Alex Jones, I see a sad guy.
	You know, I think he's wor out.
	I think he's checking out to a degree, it seems.
	So I don't know, Nick, what do you think?
	I think that Alex and his audience and everybody in general are probably wondering what's going to happen next.
	And I think that we've talked about this before.
	The whole Epstein thing is a distraction.
	We will come back around to it, I believe.
	But it's a distraction while they set up everything for the military tribunals for the treason first, I believe.
	And then after that, they'll probably loop all that in, I think.
	And then, you know, be like a controlled demolition.
	You've got to start at the base where the biggest criminals are, Obama and such, committed treason.
	You got to get rid of that stuff to make sure the other stuff comes down.
	And it'll come easy after that.
	Well, I agree that there is probably more going on than we know, and that that could look like what you describe.
	But I mean, one of the things that they often tie into all of this is obviously they tie in Israel, which Israel has a lot of problems.
	And I think those problems have become our problem to a large degree because of the sort of, you know, the way our country is aligned with Israel and the way our country is, you know, sort of influenced by Israel.
	But even beyond that, they talk a lot about the tech bros and they talk about Palantir and Peter Thiel and the influence that comes from that side of the aisle.
	And I think what's happened here is that as we were told about the military industrial complex under, I guess it started with Eisenhower when he made that, was it Eisenhower who made that speech, I believe?
	And he warned us about the military industrial complex.
	Now you have this sort of technology industrial complex, right?
	And that is seemingly where the future of all of this is heading, you know, Palantir's and Peter Thiels and the rest.
	And they make these points about, you know, where is MAGA going to go, right, when Trump sunsets?
	And or, you know, Nick says he's already sunseted, but there's going to come a point where Trump politically is not going to be a viable figure, right?
	Because he's going to be politically done, right?
	He's going to retire, assumingly, go play golf at his golf club and, you know, try not to get killed by crazy Ukrainian CIA cutout people.
	But the whole thing I'm seeing is like, I think the debate's a good, or like I said, the interview was a good interview, even though they called it a debate.
	And there were some interesting questions about like the future of MAGA and is it going to be JD Vance or is it going to be someone else?
	And I think that is a good conversation to have because it does point to, you know, where are we directionally going to be heading after Trump?
	Are we going to revert back to the Bush, you know, neocon, you know, GOP ultra, you know, corporate structure that we had before?
	Or is it going to keep on this sort of nationalist, populist direction that Trump put us on with his, you know, with the movement that he helped create?
	I think that's the more interesting question.
	And then is that going to be infiltrated and sort of, you know, co-opted by these technologically or these tech bros and the, you know, as I said, the technology industrial complex that Really does have so much power, even at this point, to influence society in ways and to shape narratives and to build consensus and to do all of these things, right?
	Psychological warfare, you name it.
	I think that's a very interesting debate because you can all, you know, you can sit here and have this long debate about Israel and long debate about Trump and Epstein and all that stuff.
	But at the end of the day, what will matter the most is where we go after Trump, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	I think that there's going to be safeguards in place, definitely.
	Yeah, but first, it's got to be shock and awe because it's going to be a transitional government, kind of the same way it is with the end of communism, I think.
	So there's going to be a power vacuum majorly.
	So a lot of people will rise and a lot of people will fall that have been corrupted by businessmen.
	And I think a lot of people will begin to prosper that didn't before.
	Trump's going to clean house, man.
	He's getting rid of these people.
	He wants a clean playing field.
	That's all he wants.
	He's a competitive guy.
	He likes to win, man.
	How's he supposed to compete if it's all rigged?
	He's mad.
	So let's go ahead and give everybody a chance to make some money here.
	Why can't everybody just make a little bit of money?
	You know, let's get rid of the Fed.
	Stop stealing everybody's money.
	I pay taxes.
	I pay taxes my property.
	I pay taxes on my taxes for crying out loud.
	With the money that I'm taxed for my income, then I'm taxed at the gas, I'm taxed everywhere I go.
	It's insane.
	There needs to be one tax, that's it, and like a flat tax that is for purchases only.
	So if you want to save your money, you can.
	And if you want to buy a yacht, you're going to pay, let's say, 7%.
	If you want to buy this, you're going to pay 7%.
	If they kept it all the same, and then there'd be no confusion, there'd be no need for the IRS, and it'd be pretty easy.
	Yeah, I mean, I think there's definitely some interesting thought to be had there.
	And I guess that, yes, I think Trump wants those things too.
	But I also understand the criticism of Trump, and I think it's fair in many cases, right?
	The criticisms are fair.
	Trump does have a bit of a, I want to say a streak of egotism.
	Is that the word?
	But he's got some issues too.
	And he's not a perfect person.
	And I said this in yesterday's show.
	I always said there are people out there who say there are better candidates, right?
	But I think commonly what I hear is, you know, they'll say, oh, well, this person won't do this.
	And they won't do that.
	You know, they won't bow to Israel.
	That's one of the ones I hear often.
	And I'm like, okay, but then what happens when they do something you don't like?
	And I never hear a sort of satisfactory response.
	They're more like, well, you know, they won't.
	I don't even think that that's something that people think of.
	And that's the way I think of Trump.
	So am I foolish, Nick, for thinking that way?
	Well, he's always 10 steps ahead.
	And he's not a perfect guy.
	I think that he continues to surprise me, which is hard to do.
	So he does that frequently.
	And a lot of times he uses psychological warfare to get certain pressures and things.
	He's pretty good at what he does.
	I think it'll work out all right.
	Yeah, I mean, if you believe all that, which I think is reasonable to believe because it is in the proofs in the pudding, right?
	Then the whole thing, the whole argument against him kind of falls short.
	But we'll talk about that more when we come back.
	Stay tuned.
	Oh, yeah.
	Shout out to you.
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	Welcome back to Swarm Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
	And we had a couple texts come in.
	I'll just read them real quick.
	Somebody texts in, our good friend, and they say, I saw Alex's interview too.
	Yeah, he was very tired, wasn't he?
	He was either tired or I think he had been drinking.
	Is one or the other?
	And I think that's sad, you know, because I really was hoping, I am still hoping that Alex will continue to get his, you know, he was always talking about he was getting his health in order.
	And I've heard stories, trust me, from people who I've been at, you know, these, you know, Nick, these conferences, I've heard stories about Alex that are crazy about how much he can drink and go out and do things.
	So, yeah, that's definitely something that, you know, he was either really tired or he had been drinking because the slurring and all that stuff is a dead giveaway usually.
	And then somebody else texted in and just said medical industrial complex.
	And I think that's a good point.
	It's not just the technology industrial complex.
	It's the medical industrial complex, but it's really these corporate industrial complexes that are becoming quite powerful and influential.
	And they have just a huge level of influence and control.
	And it's like, so that's the question, I guess, to get back to what we were originally talking about before the break is, you know, we were commenting or sort of, I was commenting on my thoughts from the Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes debate, which was really an interview.
	But you're more than welcome to go watch it.
	It's probably all over social media on Alex Jones InfoWars channel and all that stuff.
	So, you know, if you want to watch it, feel free.
	But one of the questions that came from that that I thought was valuable and interesting was the future of the party.
	Like, where are we heading?
	And it does feel like in a way, though, like, I guess I'm sort of torn, Nick, and I'll explain why.
	I understand the necessity of allowing these institutions to grow and allowing them to, you know, become sort of as streamlined as is possible so that we can be competitive, right, in the world.
	Like, I understand why Trump wants to unleash AI in the medical industry because it could lead to great advances.
	I understand why Trump wants to, you know, sort of continue to push for the development of new advanced AI systems and technology integrations and all of that.
	I get it.
	You know, updating our systems so that they're, you know, the most efficient and optimized.
	But obviously there's inherent danger within that, right?
	You're giving power to systems and people who and that don't have our best interests at heart.
	You know, I wouldn't trust these techno-bros in Silicon Valley as far as I could throw them because they're all mostly, not all, but mostly they are left-leaning, woke, globalist type, you know, mindset who believe in the woke ideology and all that stuff that is very corrosive, toxic, and damaging.
	So it's like, in that regard, I'm skeptical because I'm like, I don't want to see these people controlling society.
	I don't want to see them getting these huge government contracts at my expense that then they can use to restrict my free speech and do other things that are untoward in that regard.
	So I guess where I'm coming to at this point, quite simply, is I can see both sides of the argument.
	And I think there's a balance to be made there.
	Maybe Trump's trying to do that the best he can.
	And what other expectation could you have from him after that, right?
	What do you think, Nick?
	Yeah, I think that he's making the right decision with everything.
	I know I understand why people can be critical.
	You know, I see these headlines coming in.
	Everybody kind of raps on them.
	But Trump's always doing something.
	Every day I wake up, and I get to have Christmas Day all over again.
	And I get to see all this great stuff going on.
	So I don't know.
	I think it's going to transform.
	I know you're talking about the party and how what are we going to do?
	Because we got these people who pretend to be Republicans that are not, and they're going to have money.
	So what's going to happen is people aren't really going to care as soon as they see the money, just like they did for Israel.
	Oh, the money.
	Oh, yeah, sure, whatever you say.
	Sure, sure, sure, sure.
	No, that's I think those days are over now for that kind of stuff.
	So whenever these tech bros come out here, I think that there are too many people awake now.
	They can't put the toothpaste back in the bottle.
	And now they may get more airtime the same way the CNN puts all their darling people up there that they want to put on a pedal stool.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, but the internet will tear them down.
	I'm sure of it.
	Maybe.
	I think that's more of an optimistic outlook, and I can appreciate that because I try to be optimistic myself when it comes to many of these things.
	But a great example simply would be looking at what happens when Democrats get power again, for instance, which we know will happen eventually, right?
	What form and iteration that takes?
	Is it going to take some hardline neo-progressive, you know, militant type of, you know, whatever the opposite of Trumpism, Nash, MAGA, and all that is may, you know, be birthed and formed on the left and then unleashed, right?
	Because they'll figure it out eventually.
	And I'm not saying that I want that to happen, but I'm just making a logical prediction of the future.
	And when they do, you know, what will their response be?
	What are they going to do?
	Just like start bussing people into our country illegally?
	Oh, wait, they already were doing that.
	So it's like, what's their next, what's their escalation, right?
	What's their answer to Trump and all of it?
	I don't know.
	And what are we going to have to come back at them with?
	Because right now, people say, well, who's going to take over the party?
	I only see from my perspective, there's only a handful of people who I think are strong enough to do it and do it right.
	People like Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson.
	A lot of people say Thomas Massey, but I don't see that remotely happening.
	I don't know.
	Am I missing it?
	Those are like the only two people in the party at this point that I think are strong enough and represent the values that I believe enough for me to say, you know, I would vote for them with the same sort of enthusiasm that I voted for Trump.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, I think Steve Bannon and Eric Trump would be a perfect ticket because you get the best of both worlds.
	Why Eric and not Don Jr.
	Don is much better at influencing large groups of people.
	So what I think is that Don Jr. could be second because he needs to be out there trolling people still, making awesome jokes at his speeches.
	He has to be able to do that.
	And sometimes whatever his jokes are, they could be like, the media could already do that.
	But Eric has been very quiet and reserved and he doesn't have anything out there where they can try and spin it and throw it at him or whatever.
	So I think Eric would be a better choice, at least just the first time.
	And then, you know, of course, Don, I think, should succeed him after that.
	Interesting.
	Are you talking about a Trump bannon ticket or a Bannon Trump ticket?
	You know, I don't know.
	We'll have to have him to me or something.
	Bannon Trump, maybe.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
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	Welcome back to SFOM Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
	And I think this is an interesting debate.
	And it looks like we have a caller, Nick.
	So I want to bring them on in a second.
	And I don't know if it's even a debate.
	Is it a conversation about the future of the party?
	Who's staying in line?
	Because I know I'm probably missing something.
	And there's something I don't, I'm not even thinking of right now.
	But, you know, we're talking about who's going to be next.
	You had said there was an interesting combination of a Bannon Trump ticket, Trump-Bannon ticket, you know, one of Trump's sons, that is.
	And I think that's an interesting idea.
	I've said Tucker Carlson, who I, listen, I don't think Tucker's ever going to get into politics because it sounds like he's not interested in doing it.
	But, you know, who knows, right?
	Only time will tell.
	And I just don't know who else I can even think of off the top of my head who I think would, like, I don't want Ron DeSantis because that's basically Bush Jr.
	I don't want, you know, the Abbott guy from Texas because he's basically a liberal.
	You know, a lot of the, pretty much most of the congressmen of today and women, you know, I'm not, I would not want Boebert.
	I would not want Green.
	I would not want, you know, like none of those people appeal to me because they're all, in my opinion, you know, basically career politicians.
	And once you become a career politician, I think you should be disqualified from being president.
	I really do.
	I think that if you're Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Totally.
	I think that if you are a career politician, that should be a disqualifying factor to keep you away from becoming and that's why I think we all voted for Trump, right?
	He was an outsider.
	He came in.
	He, you know, he shook up the system.
	And so that was great.
	And I think it was getting back to like where we used to be, you know, originally.
	I mean, the founding fathers, right?
	They were like George Washington.
	He was a general.
	And, you know, we had Eisenhower.
	He was pretty good for whatever fault he may have.
	But anyway, let's bring Caller on.
	How's that sound?
	Pick him up.
	Caller, you're on there.
	Yes, Blake from Arizona.
	Good morning, guys.
	I think it's important to remember the mega movement is not Trump.
	It's a movement of the people.
	And I think that Tulsi Gabbard or Matt Gates or somebody like that would be the future of, let's call it mega movement.
	I think we have to throw out all the people that have disappointed us.
	What are we pushing 200 days into the Trump administration and there's no arrest or any, I mean, let's start the process.
	We're so tired of, and fatigue is a well-used word.
	Let's get it going and see where it goes.
	You know, you have Trump and the money behind politics is so important.
	And if you take a look at who's supporting Trump and who put millions and millions of dollars into his campaign, well, there you got the answer right there.
	So I think that we have to understand that the MAGA movement is not a Trump-based movement.
	He was definitely a mouthpiece for it, but it's going to continue.
	And that's my thoughts, guys.
	I think you're right.
	I mean, I've always felt that way about the MAGA movement, that it's far bigger than Trump ever will be.
	You know, it is about a different direction for America away from what we can, in many instances, commonly agree on, right?
	The left and the right, we differ on a lot of things, social, cultural, otherwise, but there are a lot of things that we do agree on with the industrial, military-industrial complex and whatnot, and, you know, the influence of lobbyists and, you know, wanting healthy, you know, food.
	And so there is a lot of middle ground.
	And I think that's what Trump used to win the landslide.
	And Blake, I can hear you echoing.
	So I'm going to let you go.
	But thanks, brother, for calling in.
	All right.
	Yeah, you guys have a good day.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	So I think that there is that aspect to it all.
	And of course, you know, it isn't about Trump.
	I mean, but the point is, is that Trump is, for better or worse, this key figure that is holding the MAGA coalition together at this moment.
	And rightfully so, it was pointed out in that interview with Tuck or with Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes that he will eventually sunset.
	And they say he already has, or Nick said that, but he will eventually sunset and he will retire.
	And then it's like, who steps up?
	Now, am I saying that we can't keep the movement alive without some central figure to follow?
	No, but I'm saying that you have to have key figures in leadership positions.
	Otherwise, the movement won't continue and it will not grow and it will not continue to do what it's done.
	So I don't know.
	I mean, like I said, I don't think politicians should be qualified.
	And that would, in fact, disqualify Matt Gates.
	I don't think, I don't want career politicians.
	I don't want people in that position who have made their entire life and career about, you know, trying to gain favor and become popular.
	I just don't, you know, I want shrewd people who are, you know, very metaphorically cutthroat in how they handle things, who are very, you know, diligent and most importantly, honest and forthright.
	And politicians by default are not honest and forthright because of the nature of politiquing.
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	There's a lot of puffery in it.
	Maybe there's not a lot of substance to a lot of them.
	So that's why I understand why you want them to disqualify.
	Yeah, I just don't.
	I don't think those people should be leaders because they've shown time and again, that they are not capable of handling what little responsibility they have as representatives or senators.
	So it's like, why would I trust them at a bigger scale?
	I mean, look at this whole big, beautiful bill thing.
	Like, you can say Trump pushed that through, but at the end of the day, it was failure at every level in government, in the representation legislature, that got that bill through.
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	Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	And, you know, we're kind of having this discussion with Nick Nell, of course, our co-host.
	We're having this discussion about, you know, who could fill Trump's position after Trump leaves, I'm which is coming.
	I mean, we may have three not and a half more years of Trump, but after that, you know, mistaken.
	the assumption is he's leaving.
	I don't know that, you know, he said, oh, he can run again.
	I don't know.
	I doubt it.
	He'll I think he's like 78 now.
	I don't know.
	But he would definitely be, I think, very, very much older.
	And I don't know if he would be, you know, interested in continuing on after that.
	But so the question now is who is going to fill that void?
	And we talked about different possibilities.
	You know, I've mentioned Tucker and Bannon and you mentioned Eric Trump.
	And you we kind of had some interesting input.
	Some people have suggested Matt Gaetz and some people have suggested we've had texts come in about Marjorie Taylor Greene and Kristi Noem.
	But, you know, I guess with Kristi Noem, again, I think governor is a politician and I don't think there are no governors that I think are going to be the right for this either.
	I think it's got to be another outsider.
	It's got to be another person who isn't, you know, who isn't a part of the game.
	You know what I mean?
	Like it has to be an outsider.
	It cannot.
	Because if if if Trump is replaced by an insider and I mean insiders in like a politically active career politician, then the last.
	Whatever.
	Twelve years have been for not, you know.
	Because the whole point was to get away from that, you know.
	Yeah, they got to drain the swamp first before we can do anything, Craig.
	You know, right now, I think that, like you said, though, I think that Bannon's not been in it.
	He's just been like, you know, help with the campaign stuff.
	He's a good choice for sec def.
	Well, maybe he could be like the sec def and then you could have Trump and then Gates as the vice president.
	And then Eric Trump is the I'm just spitballing here.
	I'm just trying to think of different strategies they could use.
	But I don't know.
	There's a lot of good choices.
	They got they started to put a good group of people, especially a sec administration here.
	The first one was kind of whimsical, but now they have the right kind of people around them.
	I mean, so I think that, I don't know, that core group that they've formed, there's probably some people that will be rising stars.
	Yeah, I mean, who knows?
	But I'm looking back at the primary from 2024 and I mean, it's just there's no one in there.
	That's why Trump was able to wipe the floor with all those guys.
	So it's got to be an outsider.
	I'm saying my ticket right now.
	be, how old will Trump be at that point?
	He'll be in his 80s, right?
	If right now is is Carlson Bannon or Bannon Carlson if they would be so willing to do it but uh That'd be a good one.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, let's take a break.
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	And, you know, this discussion, I guess we've kind of come to an impasse.
	Somebody texted in over the break and said, Thomas Massey would be the only choice if our country was sane.
	Now, I'm not necessarily the biggest Thomas Massey fan in the world, although he said many things that I agree with.
	He's also said things I disagree with, as is the case with pretty much all politicians, you know.
	Shocker, I don't ideologically conform to and agree with every thing a person says.
	Oh my gosh.
	Wow.
	That's wild, right?
	But this is where we find ourselves.
	And I mean, perhaps, I don't know.
	I'm sure there's a lot of things Thomas Massey could do that were right.
	I do economically agree with Thomas Massey on a lot of things.
	And I do agree with his, you know, observations about APAC and the influence of the Israeli lobby and what that looks like and how that's probably antithetical to what an America first agenda looks like.
	But beyond that, I mean, there's been a lot of things, and I'd probably have to sit down and re-examine it again, but I could certainly go through the instances where I've had disagreements with Thomas Massey on his positions, just like I've had with many people.
	And I would say this, though, to the point that I agree with people and think they would be good leaders, I've said it before, I'll say it again.
	It was the Bannon and Target Carlson, Steve Bannon and Tara Carlson.
	I don't know.
	That's my opinion.
	Everybody's welcome to have their own opinion on that.
	But yeah.
	So any other final thoughts, Nick, before we move on?
	No, there's a couple of stories without me seeing.
	It's about time.
	We've got time to see how things play out, and people can change, and policies, and they can reverse their positions and all kinds of stuff.
	So it's pretty wild in politics.
	There are a couple of things I think that are headliners we should talk about.
	We got Obama has to testify and he cannot plead to fifth.
	And if he lies, then he loses his immunity.
	So pretty much, you know, he's trapped.
	Didn't the Supreme Court just rule that the president can't lose his immunity?
	Yeah, I think the only stipulation is if they lie under oath, because if they have immunity, it's fine.
	They can just say the truth no matter what.
	But if they lie under oath, then that's when things get a little hairy.
	And besides, also with the president, if it's not an official duty, like treason, that's not an official duty, then that's going to be charged.
	You can't get around it.
	And it's very obvious.
	Like I said, I've said to everybody before, I'd known that they committed treason back all the way in 2016 when they tried to steal the election and they got stopped.
	And it's crazy that it's taken this long for everything to play out, but the truth is finally getting out.
	And I think that justice is probably, I'm guessing by spring, we're going to see not just arrests, but there are going to be people charged and maybe even sentences handed down.
	Well, speaking of Bannon, Obama, and treason, this was an interesting clip from Bannon's show the other day.
	Listen to this commentary.
	From the office of the president.
	That's not about an individual.
	It's not even about individual named Donald Trump.
	This is the office of the president.
	It's calling the predecessor guilty of treasonous conspiracy.
	ever happened before in the history of the country.
	Hell, they almost tore the country apart during the...
	But remember, they put Aaron Burr on trial for treason in this regard.
	You're talking about the head of the Central Intelligence Agency, John Brennan.
	You got Clapper, you got Hayden, you got Comey, head of the FBI, what, head of NSA?
	These are the highest with the highest security clearances.
	These are the guardians of the state secrets where this is coming down to.
	Hillary Clinton had just stepped down as Secretary of State.
	She'd been the first lady, the wife of the President of the United States had been in the White House for eight years.
	Obama was a serving president.
	The stakes don't get any higher, folks.
	This is not a novel.
	This is not a Tom Clancy novel.
	This is not one of those movies they make over and over and over again.
	This is real life.
	And it has to be sorted here and now.
	Here and now.
	Can't let this drift.
	And if they're not guilty, they're not guilty.
	If there's no evidence there, then let's come out and say there's no evidence.
	No evidence.
	Sorry.
	Not sorry.
	Let's move on.
	But we need to go down.
	there's overwhelming evidence, so we've got to get down to it.
	And like I said, when the president puts up those memes, they should be read as papal bulls.
	Short commercial break, returning the worm in just a moment.
	So, I mean, I think like you were saying, Nick, it's like we all share that sentiment.
	It's like, at this point, let's just move forward with this.
	It's really gotten to a point where, and again, Bannon makes a good point.
	I mean, when have we ever in any history book read about, I guess he points to Aaron Burr, which was a very long time ago, but when have we ever seen a president accusing a former president of treason?
	Like, outright.
	Not like, oh, he might have committed treason, saying, no, yes, he did commit treason.
	And again.
	Yeah, he's very careful about what he says usually, too.
	Yeah.
	I mean, and it's like at some point, you know, they can say Epstein all they want.
	They can be like, Epstein, what about Epstein?
	And it's like, okay, I'd like to know about Epstein too, but I kind of already know about all that, just like I kind of already know about the treason that was committed by Obama and all those other guys.
	It's like, so I will make a concession.
	We can look at the Epstein files and their totality as long as we have these legitimate trials for these people, the treason they committed.
	Like, I will accept your terms, as they say.
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	I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
	And we're talking about President Trump coming out and accusing Obama of treason.
	And this is not, you know, a normal thing.
	And I know we've been desensitized by the media, and a lot of these words have been thrown around so much to this point that they become sort of less powerful or impactful.
	But treason's a serious thing.
	It's not to be taken lightly.
	And to say that somebody engaged in treason is not only, you know, a very serious accusation, but one that carries a serious penalty.
	Particularly, the death penalty is associated with it if you read the U.S. code.
	So we've yet to see the left come out and really go full bore on this, but they will eventually come out and say that as this progresses, if it does progress, you can mark my words, the headlines on CNN will be, you know, President Trump calls for the execution of, you know, Barack Obama and so on, right?
	They'll try to hyperbolically, especially as we get closer to the midterms, I think that will be the storyline they choose to go with to get people really angry.
	And because you need angry people to go out and vote, you know, and to cheat in elections like they did in 2020.
	You needed really pissed off people who were really, I mean, I remember you would go interview Democrats in 2020 and you'd still have a lot of those today, but not as many as you did in 2020.
	You'd interview Democrats in 2020 where they would be like, you know, this is, you know, this is Hitler.
	This is by any means necessary.
	You know, laws shouldn't matter.
	It's about stopping him no matter the cost and no matter what.
	And it's like, as you heard that rhetoric and it continued to escalate, that's when you saw like the summer of love and the burning of federal buildings and attacking police officers.
	And, you know, everything got crazy, if you'll recall.
	And then we kind of just forgot about that because we have collective, you know, amnesia when it comes to remembering the totalitarianness that happened during COVID.
	I mean, that's another thing in and of itself.
	But one of the things I find interesting is that not only will they come out with that storyline and like, oh, Trump's calling for, you know, Barack Obama to be imprisoned.
	He's imprisoning his political enemies or whatever.
	They'll completely ignore what rhetoric was being put forth by them previously.
	Case in point, here's Nancy Pelosi and her, basically calling for, of course, what?
	She called for President Trump to be put in jail.
	Right?
	I mean, I'm old enough to remember that at least.
	So listen to this.
	Tonight, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi escalating her war of words against the president.
	Politico reporting that during a meeting Tuesday, she was pressed by Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler to start impeachment proceedings.
	NBC News has learned from a congressional source in the room.
	Pelosi then said about the president, I don't want to see him impeached.
	I want to see him in prison.
	Pelosi has indicated she wants the president prosecuted after leaving office.
	Pelosi is facing pushback from a growing number of Democrats calling for an impeachment inquiry, up to 60 House members.
	But Pelosi insists it's too soon.
	We're following the facts.
	We'll take them where they lead us.
	According to Politico, Judiciary Chairman Nadler told some Democrats he might subpoena Robert Mueller in the next two weeks.
	Nadler has said he's confident Mueller will come in soon, but it will be behind closed doors.
	That was Kristen Welker, one of the most unimpressive DEI hires at NBC News.
	But what I find fascinating is that, you know, this is the rhetoric they went with not more than, what, however many years ago.
	What would it be now?
	Eight years ago or so, seven years ago.
	And that was their, you know, I don't want to see it.
	We don't want to see him impeach.
	We want him in prison.
	As a matter of fact, we want him to be on trial after he leaves office.
	And so now, in a way, they set the president that Trump is following now with Obama.
	But I'm just, I'm laying this out because it's like, prepare yourself mentally for what's to come in the next, you know, particularly the next 18 months lead up to the, you know, the midterm elections.
	They're going to say, you know, any action taken against Obama, you know, is some sort of extrajudicial vengeance plot to silence your political enemies and destroy this country and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	That's what they're going to say, right, Nick?
	Yeah.
	And you know, the beautiful thing about it, Craig, is that the military is apolitical.
	So when they hear the kicking and screaming and pouting, they don't care.
	They're still going to throw the switch.
	They're still going to say fire.
	They're still going to finish the job.
	Metaphorically, of course.
	Yeah.
	Allegedly.
	Got to happen.
	After a fair trial, allegedly.
	Yeah, after a fair trial, metaphorically.
	Yeah.
	I'm not a lawyer.
	It's not legal advice.
	But yeah, I mean, that's kind of what I see happening.
	And I know it's all playing out by script, right?
	Because these things are all sort of scripted to a level or a degree, and they war game it all out.
	It's all going to be like happen in certain intervals, and it's going to be, you know, strategic.
	Both sides, one side does something, the other side does something in response, and vice versa.
	But I guess I'm at the point now where I think that the debate we started the show with is more important than that debate because I know we have to set an example.
	We can't allow it to happen again.
	That for anybody who's like reasonable, that's a reasonable thing.
	It's like, oh, well, if this guy committed treason, then we should, you know, not allow that to happen again.
	And we should make an example of them and use that as a deterrent for others to do it, right?
	Against others from doing it.
	So in that regard, I agree.
	But I would say more importantly, you know, where are we headed directionally from here?
	Because a lot of people believe it's going to be this third party with Elon Musk.
	Because even Alex Jones in that Nick Fuentes interview that they called a debate last night, even Alex Jones was basically like, well, Elon Musk is this great guy.
	And Elon Musk is going to, you know, he's going to be the one who's going to step in with this America Party.
	And Nick was kind of like, well, you know, I like Elon.
	I like what he's done.
	And so on and so forth.
	And then there are people who take it to the next step saying that, you know, a guy like Elon with the America First Party or America Party comes in.
	He basically completely destroys the Republican ticket because he'll take a huge amount of votes away, more votes from Republicans than Democrats.
	And then Democrats, that means whoever they run in 2028 will win.
	People have said, heaven forbid, Jared Polis, our governor here in Colorado, I mean, that would be a nightmare, but he is definitely somebody who I could see them running.
	So in that scenario, I mean, I could see that playing out.
	What do you think, Nick?
	I think Polis is going to be behind bars before then, but I'm hopeful.
	The Democrats, that strategy you said, if he does try to do something like that, it really could do that.
	And then is that really patriotic?
	Yeah, I mean, and then the Democrats could run a potato and it would win.
	You know, like they did with Biden.
	It wasn't hard.
	I mean, even though they cheated.
	Do you remember when he came off the plane and he said, I wipe my butt or whatever?
	I don't know.
	He came out of the White House and said that.
	My butt's been wiped.
	Yeah, my butt's been wiped.
	Do we want that guy in the White House?
	Do we want a potato in there?
	Well, Jared Polis, I don't even want to.
	But anyway, there are other people, too.
	I mean, they have a slew of people on deck in the Democrat Party who they would be more than happy to throw up there.
	You know, they'll throw up whoever they can.
	I doubt they'll run a woman again, but you never know.
	I mean, they're so broken with their ideology.
	And I mean, the running a woman thing is like they just don't have any strong female candidates.
	I mean, with Elizabeth Warren, she's about as interesting as, you know, watching Paint Dry.
	You got AOC, who's like AOC and Jasmine Crockett and Rashida Talib and all these other, but they're Ayana Presley.
	I mean, they have a collective IQ of like 50.
	So you're not going to run them.
	I mean, they make those women make Kamala Harris look like a Mensa member.
	So I don't think they're going to run them.
	And then, you know, I guess you have Hakeem Jeffries, but he's not going to want to step away from his position.
	You know, he's, I'm sure, far happier, you know, doing what he's doing as the, you know, leader in the House.
	So, I mean, it's like, who are they going to run?
	That's another good question, right?
	We talked about who Republicans are going to run.
	Who are the Democrats going to run?
	Is it Jared Polis?
	I guess Newsom is the only one who is like the top candidate at this point, right?
	I don't think he's going to make it much longer either.
	I think he's going to be arrested, too.
	Yeah, well, I'll believe it all when I see it.
	When those people get arrested, I'll believe it when I see it.
	And that would be great because there are plenty of people in Colorado and California that need to be arrested, you know, for at least investigated and then put on trial for their crimes like Newsom and Polis and Griswold and Weiser here in Colorado and the rest.
	But beyond that, I don't know.
	I mean, who's that figure?
	I mean, they're not going to run Chuck Schumer.
	He's about as he's like, I don't even know.
	That guy is about as charismatic as a carrot.
	I don't know.
	I mean, who else is left in the...
	I'm trying to think.
	Who else is left in the Democratic Party?
	I'm going to run on the Democrat ticket.
	I know.
	We should do that.
	That'd be a good idea.
	We should all run as Democrats and then have all the Republicans run as Democrats and then just, because they tried to do that, didn't they?
	They did that to us.
	Yeah, they did that to us.
	There was a few actually races that, like, remember Adam Kinsinger is a great example.
	The guy pretended to be a Republican and then won and then just got exposed as a Democrat and then was basically out of the party in one term or two terms.
	I don't remember how long he lasted.
	And now he's like on CNN every other day, like the token, you know, liberal Democrat Republican, quote unquote, who's like, you know, anti-Trump.
	So yeah, I'm trying to think of the roster on the left.
	Polis, I guess Newsome.
	It's going to be Newsome and Polis, maybe?
	Newsom has a lot of skeletons in his closet that I think would make him end up, for example, he's bisexual, and then he also has the children working on his vineyard, and he just got his vineyard rated, you know, or he got one next to him.
	You know, basically sending a message that we know you're getting your wealth illicitly through illegal.
	Well, if you ever do the breakdown of the Browns, the Pelosis, the Newsoms, and all the families from California that are like big Democrat power families, the Getty family, they're all connected.
	It's really, really strange.
	I've seen some really good breakdowns and diagrams connecting them all, but how they're all like kind of their fortunes are all interrelated and their wealth is all interconnected.
	So that's something to look at.
	But that would probably make him the prime figure, I would imagine.
	Or that, what's that guy's name, Shapiro from Pennsylvania?
	They may try him.
	I don't know.
	Oh, that guy's going to be in jail, too.
	He's investigated right now.
	Okay, well, they'll all be in jail.
	But if they're not in jail, we'll see.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
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	And, you know, I mean, clearly there are some things we can continue to talk about with regard to what the Democrats' plan is going to be, how they're going to counter this.
	I mean, Elon Musk will, with this party, in some form or fashion, hold the fate of the nation, and he could drive it whichever way he wants.
	If he gets it off the ground and he gets it set up and he gets it, you know, viable, and it becomes a legitimate third-party contender.
	I'm not saying that it's a legitimate third-party contender for taking the general election itself, but it could definitely be what steers the electorate one way or the other and either takes votes away from one side or adds votes to one side to make it, you know, to push it across the finish line, right?
	Yeah, and if, you know, he keeps going on about that and he's, I mean, if it's not done right, it could, like you said, cause real problems for our country.
	And so, you know, what they could do is just stop giving him government subsidies for his companies.
	And then that way he would stop right away, I think.
	Yeah, but he's the kind of guy who that will just make him more determined.
	And I think what will happen is it's like when he did it before the election, remember?
	He went to, I don't know, it was like a Bloomberg event or a CNBC talk or something.
	And he's up on stage and he's like, you're going to try to blackmail me with money?
	And he's like, F you, you know?
	And that's when he took that hardcore turn to Trump and started really going on the full endorsement Trump and going after all these people because it was those people who were trying to basically get him to back the Democrats.
	And he was like, and they were basically saying, well, we're going to take away all your advertisers on X and then you're not going to have any revenue and your favorite platform is going to die.
	And he was like, screw you.
	I'm going to go to the other side and go double down.
	So I could see him in that scenario.
	If Trump does that to him or pushes that, which he already has to a degree, with his sort of opposition to the electric car rebate or whatever it is, the tax incentives, I think you're going to see him just get more determined.
	He's a little double down, triple down.
	And then it will be that faction, it'll be whichever, whoever that faction decides to vote either for or against is what's going to decide the election.
	That sounds bad right to me.
	So I guess we'll see.
	We'll see.
	I mean, that's at least theories I've heard from people I trust and others.
	So I don't know.
	I could see it going that way for sure.
	That makes very logical sense.
	But at the same time, I think it will heavily and largely depend on who replaces Trump.
	If it's Shady Vance, will he be able to carry the torch?
	I don't think so.
	I don't see it.
	Not yet.
	I mean, I like him.
	I like what he says.
	But I liked Ron DeSantis and what he was saying when Trump was president the first term.
	And then all of a sudden, when the primary came, he turned into like a different person and started attacking him.
	And the same thing happened in 2024 again to a larger degree.
	So I don't know.
	I think it's all going to play out how it plays out.
	But one interesting thing.
	I think DeSantis is kind of lame sometimes.
	I think DeSantis is kind of a lame duck, man.
	He could be much more.
	He doesn't act as masculine as he needs to to be a leader of a country.
	Yeah, and one of the things that told me everything I needed to know about DeSantis was watching him during the 2024 primary.
	And, you know, he tried his best to do like a Trump impersonation, trying to be, you know, the tough guy and trying to like, you know, use mockery and, you know, that kind of rhetoric to get people.
	But it all fell really, it fell short and it really did not resonate with me and many others because, you know, when you do the sort of, you know, dollar store Trump impression, it's just not,
	you know, Trump's a unique figure who's not going to be, you're just not easily going to be able to replicate that sort of, you know, charisma, that sort of, you know, boldness, that sort of, you know, fearlessness.
	I mean, it's like, that's tough to replicate.
	And especially when you're talking about some, you know, relatively soft guy.
	I mean, I know he was in the military, DeSantis was, but he's a pretty soft guy.
	You know, the stories about, you know, him just like scarfing, you know, his fast food Chick-fil-A burgers every day.
	And like, it was just like stuff like that.
	And then watching him.
	And then the whole like wearing lifts in his boots.
	It was like, what is this guy doing?
	Like, who is this?
	That was a huge mistake, man.
	That guy, as soon as I heard that, I was like, oh, I'm never voting for this guy.
	And he may have been like wrong time, wrong place, too, because I mean, going after Trump in the middle of and being a part, he basically became a part of the left attacking Trump with the, you know, put him in jail and try to kill him.
	And then all of a sudden DeSantis is like coming at him.
	It just all did not work.
	And I don't, and I think that will forever mar his political career.
	And it will be why he only is ever a governor and never a president.
	But what do I know, right?
	Stranger things have happened.
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	I don't want that.
	So I always thought that was a big point of contention I had with him.
	All right, let's take a break.
	We got more.
	Nick, maybe if you have a story that you want to get into, anything?
	Oh, yeah.
	I've got a couple of really good ones.
	Okay.
	Well, save them.
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	Now, Nick, you had a couple stories you wanted to get into here today.
	What do you got for us?
	There's one where Trump has declared war on the terrorists.
	He basically designated Trendwa, MS-13, and Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.
	So I see that's going down.
	I think that has, you know, once they seize all their assets and find out who they've really been working with and coordinating with, for example, Debbie Washerman Schultz coordinating with MS-13 to kill Seth Rich, stuff like that, will come out from that.
	And there's one here, too, with John Solomon on X22 report.
	I'm going to send over, you know, put you on there.
	It's basically talking about Obama and the trap that he's been set in.
	And I think this is the part where he talk about how he loses immunity if he lies.
	Let's see.
	It should be, I sent it over that message there.
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	We only have one segment left.
	But any other stories you want to get into?
	Because I got some other clips here that kind of relate to that.
	Oh, we'll play those then.
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	We got plenty of time.
	We got all day tomorrow to do this all over again.
	So we'll definitely get those clips in order.
	I usually like to have those before the show because I got to get them all ready for air and all that stuff.
	So maybe we'll do that tomorrow.
	I've got a big one here real quick.
	This is a headline.
	So Stephen Miller just announced that the number of missing children trafficked by Joe Biden into America is around 450,000.
	And on top of that, don't forget that they had a hotline to call.
	And I think it was like, I can't remember.
	It was like 60,000 unanswered calls for the, if you're being abused, for the hotline for the people, the whole program that they made.
	It's really bad.
	I don't think the Democrats are going to come back from this when people find out that they've been trafficking people and drugs and all this stuff just to stay afloat as a party.
	Well, this might go hand in glove with what I was going to play anyway, which is Dan Bongino made a statement the other day that was an anominous statement he released on social media where he basically says, you know, something to the effect of I'll never be the same after learning what I've learned at the FBI.
	And here was an interesting conversation between Glenn Beck and Tulsi Gabbard about that comment.
	Let's listen to that real quick.
	Dan Bongino posted a cryptic message on X the other day.
	I read it.
	Yeah, he said, it shocked me.
	What I found out at my time at the FBI has shocked me down to the core.
	We cannot run a republic like this, and I'll never be the same after learning what I've learned.
	I'm not expecting you to answer for him, but have you felt that way when you've gotten being there?
	I have seen up close and personal the tactics that are used by those who care more for themselves, their ambition, their job, their influence, their political interests, their selfish, self-serving interests than they care about the Constitution.
	That every single one of these law enforcement and intelligence community professionals swear an oath, just like I have both in uniform and the military and as a member of Congress and as Director of National Intelligence to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.
	This is why what we are doing matters so much.
	So yes, I have my own frustrations, trust me, but my resolve is focused and is rooted in my love for our country and my belief in the values and principles that our country was founded upon, and therefore the responsibility that I carry to do something about that which we are revealing, that which I am seeing and experiencing firsthand.
	It is a heavy responsibility, but it's also an awesome one, and I spend every day doing my best to fulfill it.
	Well, I mean, what do you think could have shocked Dan Mongino?
	Is it just, you know, a bit of dramatic flair there, or is it you think he's really serious?
	Well, when you find out that some of the people that you trusted the most are out there eating people and having human sacrifices and terrible, unspeakable things happening, and then this is all not just some sort of exception to the rule.
	It is the rule, which is the most damaging to like someone's psyche understanding that it's always been this way.
	Yeah, I mean, if some of the stuff that is even, if even a fraction of the stuff that's been floating around on the internet for so long, you know, about what the elites quote unquote do is true, I could imagine that kind of information would elicit that kind of response from a guy like Dan Bongino, who, You know, whatever.
	He's not some perfect person who I think is like, you know, infallible by any means.
	But I mean, he's a pretty good guy, seemingly, just a standard person who wants, you know, to do the right thing and tell the truth.
	And, and that's what I say about a lot of these guys.
	You know, if you get good guys in these positions, when they are put in that position, it really is, I mean, this is why you see it break a lot of people because, you know, if I'm told, you know, something that's hit horrific and then they say, but but, you know, we can't disclose this because of national security.
	And all you want to do is be like, well, that's crazy.
	Like, these people are, like you said, people in positions of trust.
	Like, this is really evil stuff.
	And they're like, well, you know, we have to find another way.
	People respond differently in that situation, right?
	Yeah, absolutely, man.
	You need some hardened and seasoned.
	I think they might even have to bring some back.
	It's like the police detectives who have to work with the child crimes, you know.
	Jesus.
	And they have to sit there and they have to watch this stuff because they have to make the case against them.
	I mean, I've seen countless movies where, you know, Sound of Freedom does a great job of showing what that can do to a person, you know, and how it can be.
	A friend of mine breaks them down.
	Sorry, may I interject before we go to break.
	I actually know somebody who was a federal agent on a task, and it's international, it was a State Department task force to rescue children, and they were in New Jersey at the time, and then they had to see the Wiener laptop, and they were with the NYPD when they saw it.
	It's real.
	They did all that stuff.
	Yeah.
	Horrific.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
	We're coming back.
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	Welcome back to Sform Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	This is our final segment with Nick No, our co-host.
	Nick, it's been a good show.
	We're going to wrap it up here, though, and I'll let you get your final thought in for the day, and then we'll send them off with some hope and encouragement in Scripture.
	Excellent.
	Well, Craig, my final thought for the day is that with all the stuff going on and each new thing that's revealed every day, I feel like watching the boomers doing those line dances and drink at the really expensive places while Rome burns is kind of funny.
	But I just thought about that yesterday.
	It's like it reminds me of, what's his name, Nero, doing the fiddle when it's burning, whoever it was.
	Anyway, thanks, boomers.
	I love you guys, too.
	But, you know, make sure you stick with your family.
	Make sure you help them understand what's really going on.
	If they start asking questions, be kind and welcoming because it's going to shake a lot of people to their core.
	And don't forget that in the end, God wins.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	And we're going to leave you guys with some open encouragement in Scripture.
	We always do that.
	Today is no different.
	1 John 4, verse 7 through 11 says, Dear friends, let us love one another because love is from God.
	And everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
	The one who does not love does not know God because God is love.
	God's love was revealed among us in this way.
	God sent his one and only Son into the world so that we might live through him.
	Love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his son to be the propitiation for our sins.
	Dear friends, if God loved us in this way, we must also love one another.
	No one has ever seen God.
	If we love one another, God remains in us, and his love is perfected in us.
	So this verse to me simply is laying out the framework for how we should treat one another.
	And like Nick says at the end of the show, sometimes, as he did today, you know, we should be kind and understanding with those who are just figuring a lot of this stuff out, understanding what evil's in this world.
	And for me, that process, as I realized that there was true evil in this world, that's when I realized that there must be, that God, it proved God even more to me in his existence and his sacrifice.
	And then when I got to really believe again, as I had become a prodigal and found my relationship with Christ once again, I saw what this love is and what it does and how, as it says, it's perfected in us because it can fill us with hope and things that we would not otherwise have in this dark world.
	So I want that to be the message for all of you guys here today.
	Take with you, share it with your family, friends.
	And if you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, I always make this invite at the end of every show.
	Open your heart, say a prayer, call upon his name, accept him as your Lord and Savior.
	But that's where we're going to leave it.
	We'll be back tomorrow, God willing, same time, same place with Mr. Nick No.
	So until then, I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
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