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	Welcome to another Justin.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	Hope you guys are having a great day.
	We're going to get into some of the big stories here in a minute.
	I really am excited because today we're joined once again by our co-host.
	You know our friend, co-host Benghazi Whistleblower, military intelligence insider, U.S. Air Force veteran, all-around great guy, Mr. Nick Ngo is with us today.
	So the schedule is a little different this week.
	You know, usually he's with us on Thursdays and Fridays.
	Today, he'll be joining us.
	He will not be with us tomorrow.
	And then, he will make his much-anticipated return on Friday.
	So, that's the schedule for this week.
	I want to give you guys an update on that.
	But, Nick, welcome to the show.
	It's always good to have you on.
	Thanks, Craig.
	I'm glad to be on this nice Wednesday.
	It's a beautiful day, and we've got a lot to talk about.
	Yeah, I think we do.
	I think we have a lot to sort of parse through a lot of different stories floating around.
	Some of the bigger ones, you know, are not as Prominently featured in the mainstream media as they should be but we'll do our best to sort of parse through all that exists and Get to the bottom of everything as it stands.
	One of the big stories that I saw over the last 24 hours was this And here's basically the breakdown of it.
	So a Chinese couple has been caught sneaking crop-killing fungus into a Michigan lab.
	So the story goes as follows.
	Two Chinese nationals tried smuggling deadly fungus in the U.S. that can destroy crops and poison food.
	Prosecutors say Zhun Yong Lu flew into Detroit with his girlfriend Yunqing Jun who works at a University of Michigan lab not cleared for biohazards.
	The fungus, called Fusarium graminarium butchered that probably as well, devastates wheat Corn and rice causes vomiting and liver damage and is labeled a potential agro-terrorism weapon.
	It triggers billions in crop losses yearly, and officials say Jian's research was funded by China and that she's a Communist Party member.
	Liu was deported.
	And Gian faces charges of conspiracy smuggling, visa fraud, and lying to officials.
	U.S. Attorney Jerome Gorgon Jr. called it a major national security threat.
	To which, you know, the former founder of Blackwater, the, you know, dark ops PMC corporatologist, Eric Prince wrote on social media, speedy trial, hang them publicly, soon.
	Period.
	Wow.
	Wait, who said that?
	Eric Prince actually went on social media and said, speedy trial, hang them publicly, period, then soon, period.
	So, look.
	I think China is one of those things that we don't talk about as much anymore because they are truly the most volatile and dangerous enemy we have in the global context, if you will.
	Of our global adversaries, I think China is number one.
	For whatever you believe about COVID, whether it was made by us, Or made by China or some combination, which it probably was.
	It does seem to be that the sort of nexus where it started was in the 2019 Wuhan Military Games, which was an international consortium of athletes from different militaries across the globe who convened in China.
	In October of 2019 for this Olympic-style sporting event, which culminated in what was called a sort of mystery virus spreading.
	Now, we can go and get all the theories about the wet market and whatever, but Wuhan was most likely the epicenter.
	The bio lab there was most likely the place from which it came, and that's where it all started.
	And I think that was a retaliation against the United States for Trump's tariffs and his aggressive stance and position in combating them publicly, which if you know anything about China and how politics works there, they have certain cultural norms that once violated, you know, are very seriously taken by Trump.
	And I think Guan Xi is the one where it refers to like saving face.
	And when you embarrass them publicly, they have no choice but to retaliate very aggressively in reaction to it.
	Otherwise, they lose face and then they ultimately will lose their honor.
	And honor is very important to them in that culture.
	It's a very complex thing, but simply put I think that's why we don't talk about them anymore, of course.
	That's why Trump doesn't come out and slam them publicly anymore because he understands that, you know, that's basically kicking a hornet's nest.
	And if you want to really get rid of a hornet's nest, you sneak up with it, behind it, really quietly with one of those bottles of hornet spray and you spray it from like 20 feet away.
	And then it's all, they all just kind of fall out and die.
	And that's what he's doing kind of with the tariffs, I think.
	Is all this making sense, Nick?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	And China's going to get, they're going to get a, Look, we have inflation that's out of control, and that's the only way to really do it, to stabilize that first.
	But China, I think you're right about that.
	They have to sneak up on these guys, and you're right.
	Honor and all that, they keep it up for appearances, but obviously the CCP has no honor, and they have no regard for human life, but they have to keep up appearances.
	Like normally, as you said, in their culture, it's very Asian culture in general.
	Honor is very important.
	For example, the Japanese will commit suicide if they have dishonored their family and so on.
	Now, that won't happen with the Chinese anymore, I don't think.
	From what I've seen, their culture shifted a little bit.
	You got to thank Google for that.
	Maybe even other companies that...
	Who you can tie back to other communist revolutions in other nations previous to that.
	So, but yeah, I think that that's really what, you know, has led to the change societally.
	But the honor thing is, it's not even honor as much as it is face.
	And they call it saving face is the English way of putting it.
	It's just, if you're disrespected in a very public manner.
	Or if you're disregarded in a very public manner, you've lost face.
	And in that culture, when you lose face, you lose authority, right?
	Because a lot of communism is predicated on who has the authority to get away with whatever they want.
	And that's how it all operates.
	But I want to get into it more because this is an interesting story.
	And agro-terrorism, I think, is a real thing.
	We may have experienced...
	Remember when all those chickens were culled and the food processing plants burned down?
	We might have been experiencing some of that.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
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	I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
	And we're talking about this incredible story of agro-potential agro-terrorism with a 34-year-old University of Michigan biology student named Zhongyung Liu facing major charges for smuggling a Very deadly fungus into the United States through Detroit Metropolitan Airport on
	July 27th of last year, I'm presuming, called Fusarium graminarium.
	Got it.
	Totally nailed it.
	Now, this is a deadly fungus that causes head blight, a disease affecting wheat, barley, maize, and rice, resulting in billions of dollars worth of economic losses worldwide each year.
	And this is something that also is toxic for humans, which can cause vomiting, liver damage, and reproductive defects in both humans and livestock.
	So authorities are saying that essentially what happened here is...
	smuggling, making false statements to investigators and visa fraud.
	Apparently the boyfriend of this female researcher has already been deported back to China, and the female researcher herself who smuggled the fungus into the United States is sitting in custody facing all of these charges with penalties up to 20 years in federal prison and many, many more years for other charges as well.
	So this is something that I think, you know, Again, Nick, as we were talking about before the break, we don't necessarily hear too much about because obviously, A, I think we don't want to publicize this stuff because it could cause a panic.
	This is why, I mean, it's been a year and we're just now figuring out that this was a thing that happened.
	But I think even more so, I mean...
	right?
	Yeah, as you guys and everybody's listening, that's pretty creative to use a fungus that would have harmed.
	People, if they came in contact with it and killed all of our crops, that would cause starvation, not just in the United States.
	I mean, it wouldn't be that bad here because we got stuff saved underground and stuff for these kind of occasions.
	But what they would experience around the world would be a food shortage, and then Ukraine would become very important again because they have the breadbasket right now.
	I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ukraine that was behind it all and not even China.
	At this point, and look at China, I bet you that Z didn't have anything to do with this.
	From my understanding, at one point, he actually was the person who told us about hydroxychloroquine.
	Or tried to tell us right away when that stuff happened because his health minister was lying to him.
	Which is probably why we saw the CCP when they had their party meeting or whatever parliament type thing that they had a bunch of people arrested.
	I think they were all involved in the COVID strategy and attack on the United States.
	And I don't think Z approved it, which has complicated the situation.
	And that's why it was publicly done where he arrested those people.
	Yeah.
	I mean, who knows what's happening in the inner machinations of the Communist Party of China.
	I think there are some complications there that really, it's like competing factions more overly, just like we talk about, for instance, in Ukraine, where we've said, you know, Zelensky is a puppet, right?
	He's a cocaine-addled muppet.
	And he is really caught between a rock and a hard place because no matter what he wants to do, as you've pointed out, Nick, and others have, you know, he goes back to Kiev and faces his generals who are really running the show to a larger degree, probably the ones working more closely or directly with the United States, the EU, Britain, whoever.
	And, you know, if he doesn't do what they say, they've shown him the tree, the hanging tree.
	You know, I think that's a...
	But anyway, they're like, hey, if you don't do what we say, we'll just put you up there and get another cocaine-addled Muppet to take your place.
	It's not hard.
	And him being a weak little person, I don't know why I was going to say something meaner, but a weak person, he's just going to do what they say.
	What was he?
	He was an actor, a comedian.
	He's not like what you think of as being a really war-torn guy.
	He's definitely a drug addict.
	He's got some serious issues.
	I don't even want to get into some of the things.
	I mean, he was like dressing in drag and doing all kinds of weird, weird stuff before becoming president of Ukraine, of all things.
	And it just shows you how...
	Lindsey Graham being another example.
	Mike Pence.
	Yeah, I go down the whole list.
	You know all the people.
	But basically every Democrat.
	But yeah, Nick, you were going to say something?
	I'm sorry.
	I got off on a tangent there.
	Yeah, I was just thinking about this guy, you know, Zelensky.
	He's the bastard child of Soros.
	If you want to try and sue me, go ahead, guys, because it's very obvious that he's Soros' son.
	Can you imagine if you had a court case and Zelensky was suing you?
	I have not the best child of Soros!
	It would be funny.
	I give it that.
	I'd be like, why don't you tell us about your Nazi generals?
	And I'd be like, that's Nazi truth you were telling us.
	Why you got Nazi generals and you're a Jew?
	Doesn't make any sense.
	Yeah, and then Trudeau and Castro.
	It's like, I don't know, man.
	I think they thought we were really dumb and now they've figured out that we're not that dumb and now they're trying to be more deceptive.
	I think that's really what it is.
	Too late, man.
	And that's another thing.
	Think about that attack in Ukraine.
	They did not even get that approved by President Trump.
	That means that he is on his own.
	That means that NATO is on their own.
	Because if NATO pushed that, then we're out of NATO, guaranteed.
	We're not talking to them anymore.
	They try to start a war without our permission, without our knowledge.
	They're out.
	Either way, Crane is...
	I think Trump wants the war to end, but he knows that his portrayal of himself as being this sort of dovish peacemaker is only effective if there is an actual threat of violence, right?
	And if Russia doesn't take him seriously, then what's the point?
	Like, I don't think Trump saying, I just want to make peace, I just want to make peace is going to bring Russia to the table, particularly given what Russia's seen.
	The United States do over the last, I don't know, eight years or so, with particularly regard to Trump and how they framed him as a Russian agent and then impeached him twice and did all these things that are absolutely insane, which, you know, the one person who knows for sure that Trump's not a Russian asset is Vladimir Putin.
	Because, I mean, it's so absurd, right?
	The CIA pushed it.
	The FBI, you know, facilitated it.
	And so I think Trump, like I told you in the pre-show, like he used to do with John Bolton, he's using some of these old guard mechanisms because he used to say, you know, he'd be like, I don't like John Bolton, but when I bring him to a negotiation, everybody does what I say because they know he's crazy and he'll do crazy stuff.
	And so I think that's why, you know, Lindsey Graham and Danang Dick Blumenthal show up in Kiev a day before, you know, Ukraine supposedly on its own decides to take out 40% of their strategic bombing force for their nuclear triad in Russia.
	I mean, I think it's not a coincidence.
	And it's a form of Trump saying, well, you can either make a deal with me or we can go back to what they're doing, which these guys are crazy.
	They want to start a nuclear war.
	So if you want to have a nuclear war, we'll just let them have a nuclear war.
	You know, because it's like, what are the other options if they don't want peace or if they don't think if they're not under threat?
	Right.
	If they don't believe the threat, then.
	It's all empty, you know?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you know what?
	What they did was try to start a war, and I think that basically, you know, that now our United States will look at Zelensky as a clean target now, as an individual clean target.
	They won't, you know, go after the country so much.
	Guarantee you that Zelensky now has the CIA, Mossad, Russia.
	I mean, everybody's going to take him out at this point.
	And his military might be able to protect him, maybe.
	But all I got is a hanging tree, you know?
	Yeah, I mean, he's basically, he has no choice other than to be a...
	But who's really running the show are the people giving the generals the weapons.
	And in that regard, we know it's basically NATO.
	Which countries in NATO are giving them more or less?
	I don't know.
	I know on a personal hunch level, you trust your gut.
	My personal hunch is telling me that...
	right?
	Because what is something that is so important is energy, agriculture, and mineral resource.
	Those things, Or what are most critical about Ukraine.
	But who are they most critical for?
	It's not for the United States.
	We don't need agriculture.
	We don't need farmland.
	We don't need mineral resources from Ukraine.
	We don't need natural gas pipelines and oil reserves or whatever.
	You know, mostly natural gas, but other products, byproducts of that.
	We don't need any of that stuff.
	So other than being a Ukraine's basically of no importance or value to the United States whatsoever.
	So I'm guessing, my hunch is that...
	He basically said, look, I understand the importance of Ukraine to you.
	That's the only reason we're still sending money there.
	But he's like, it's not really that important to us, but we'll help you.
	You've got to help us with something.
	And that's where I think the exchange is coming in.
	And I think that's what Russia sees.
	And that's why Russia's been cozying up to China, because they see a U.S.-EU.-NATO bloc that if they don't find an ally— They made a deal.
	They have a good, cozy relationship now.
	They're not too cozy, but cozy enough to get them through the hard times.
	And China's the linchpin because they're playing both sides.
	They got the U.S. and Russia.
	And I think we're trying to force them to make a decision, and they're saying no, so that's throwing another wrench into everything.
	So it's very complicated.
	But anyway, we'll talk about it more when we come back.
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	Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	No.
	We're talking about, you know, we kind of started with this story about the agro-terrorism that charges that are coming out with regard to some Chinese national who smuggled some very, very deadly fungus into the United States that could hurt crops and kill people and animals.
	And then that kind of...
	And now we're sort of talking about the larger geopolitical implications of where all these conflicts stem from and what the end goal is, perhaps, to each one.
	Nick, I'm sorry, I talked a lot before we hit the last break and you didn't get a chance to really comment.
	Did you have anything you wanted to add on that?
	Yeah, so the UK people who were caught doing anti-Semitic things that were arrested at Harvard and other universities were actually MI6.
	Did anybody catch that, that they were working for MI6?
	No, I didn't see that.
	Was that the story?
	Did we validate that?
	It came and went, yeah.
	Basically, he worked for a defense contractor, quote-unquote, for the U.K., and so that's the guy that was first deported.
	He actually worked for the U.K., so the U.K. was trying to create the anti-Semitic trope, or what was it called, a narrative, whatever you want to call it.
	So just as you said, it's reinforcing that they're the ones running Ukraine.
	They're the ones making the decisions to go to war, and it's the same people.
	And so I think it's really possible that this Chinese fungus thing could have been fungus taken out of those labs, those bioweapon labs, in Ukraine.
	Yeah, China might benefit, sure.
	But look, who's going to benefit the most?
	Ukraine.
	They need us the most right now.
	We don't need them.
	How could they make us need them?
	By devastating our crops.
	It's an interesting thought, you know, I've been watching a lot of, you know, I don't really watch TV, but I do like to watch movies occasionally.
	I've actually been on a kick of watching some of these Mission Impossible films, which are actually pretty good, not gonna lie.
	Pretty clean, pretty decent.
	Interesting plots.
	I watched the original one the other night and watched a couple others.
	There's like, I don't know, so many of them.
	I think there's a new one coming out.
	I haven't seen most of them.
	I think I saw the first one when it came out.
	But one thing that's common in these sort of espionage thriller type movies, and you say, why are you talking about movies?
	Well, because art imitates reality, and a lot of these movies are predicated on things that are happening.
	In the real world, it's quite common for that's exactly what you just described as a form of misdirection or a form of espionage to happen where one country will contract or recruit or enlist the services of a national from a different nation to do their dirty work, right?
	So, and then there's the, you know, Mike Benz has talked about this, the doctrine of plausible deniability that was created in 1940, I think it was like 48, when the CIA was essentially established.
	They created this whole framework that was predicated on the idea that, you know, they could do their dirty deeds as long as there was always plausible deniability that it wasn't them, you know, so you frame other countries for things that...
	And, you know, if our own intelligence agencies have that doctrine, I'd imagine that other agencies around the globe have that same doctrine as well, which is, you know, if we can frame another country for doing something that helps our end, then that is, in fact, that makes this plausibly reasonable to execute on, right?
	If I can bomb a country, hypothetically, as a nation-state actor and make it look like it was another country, and thereby remove myself from any suspicion or investigation, and also at the same time effectively achieve the ends to which I seek to achieve, then that's the ultimate goal, right?
	In that regard, I think your theory holds water to the extent that it's plausible.
	And it sort of goes along with a lot of theories.
	I think people don't think that way because it's easy to have a straightforward logic, right?
	To be like, these people are Chinese nationals.
	It's the Communist Party doing it.
	Maybe.
	Maybe it's that simple.
	Maybe China would do the same thing.
	Maybe if they really wanted to get a fungus in the United States to have crop failures or whatever, to do some sort of damage, agro-terrorism, they would get some, you know, Swedish guy, you know?
	So that if he gets caught, it looks like it was Sweden.
	You know what I mean?
	Instead of it looking like it was China.
	That's a little on the nose, right?
	If you catch another spy in another country, they can't talk to their handler and say, I've been caught.
	Okay, so then what are they going to do?
	And if it's something that they've been doing that's really a capital crime, what is their choice?
	Capital offense, you're going to get a capital sentencing, or you're going to do this.
	That's probably what they did.
	They grabbed the dude from China and was like, hey.
	You're goofing off doing this, X, Y, Z, or the chick, the woman it was, and then here are your options.
	You either execute it now or you go do this.
	Yeah.
	And it's accessible.
	And then it's easy.
	Yeah, that's the simplest way.
	And then the more complex way is, you know, you have, speaking of Mission Impossible, even though it's a fictional film, I mean, a lot of this stuff is based in reality.
	You know, you have non-official cover.
	You have the knock.
	You know, lists, basically, of these agents that exist but who are disavowed if ever caught.
	You know, you work for a government, but if you're caught, the government says, I don't know who that guy is.
	I've never heard of him in my whole life.
	You know what I mean?
	And that's all real.
	You know, that's all.
	It happens more commonly than you may think out there listening.
	So I just, who knows?
	But I think the more common way is what you described, Nick, is This person's maybe a student who really was studying this fungus and does something untoward with her boyfriend.
	And next thing you know, they have a little blackmail.
	They put a little pressure on her.
	They get an agent in place that says, hey, we have you doing this.
	We're going to turn you into the Chinese unless you take this and bring it to the United States and put it in the crop.
	And then that person's working for...
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	And I think that what's funny is that oftentimes people will associate these sort of ideas With being more closely tied to fiction than reality.
	But the truth is, always going to be stranger than fiction.
	So it's probably even more convoluted and more nefarious than even you could imagine in some of these films, right?
	Yeah.
	And that's what it looks like.
	It's coming to, Craig.
	The hidden hands are all being pulled.
	The curtains are getting pulled back and everybody's seeing.
	The Wizards of Oz.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	But imagine when AI gets into all this, which it probably already is, but it's going to get really strange when AI starts plotting schemes, which they already are, I'm sure.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
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	Nick, no, we had a couple texts come in.
	Nick, somebody texted in and said, it's their credit crown.
	I think that's a play on the royal family.
	I'm not sure, interestingly enough.
	And our friend, our unofficial northern Colorado Hispanic possible bot, we're not sure, but we're kind of sure, friend, I believe his name is TJ, if I'm not mistaken.
	Anyway.
	They texted in and said that they saw the latest Mission Impossible movie on Friday, and they said it was entertaining, but we compared the rest.
	And I'm not going to read what they said after that, Nick, because, damn it, excuse my language, but you've got to give a spoiler alert.
	You can't do that to me.
	They basically gave away the movie, and I haven't seen it yet, so now I feel like, no, I'm not going to do that to everybody out there, because that's not nice, you know?
	But, yeah.
	So anyway, thanks for that text.
	We appreciate it.
	If you guys want to call our text, 877-536-1360 is the number.
	Nick, we have a lot of other stories to cover, but are there any final thoughts for all of this as we sort of parse through it?
	Yeah.
	In the first...
	As we talked about, they're left to the wind if they're caught.
	But imagine how many there are now inside the United States, just like you and I, that would willingly help any group or faction internally that's trying to save America.
	I think that that list would be tremendous.
	And a lot of people would be surprised how many people are helping stop these communist people from trying to take over the country.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you would be surprised.
	You might not, but you would probably be.
	Anywho, we have other stories I want to get into.
	A lot of stuff still yet to be covered here.
	I've got a lot of interesting stories.
	Mike Lindell certainly is an interesting story right now.
	Federal court in the state of, you guessed it, here in Colorado.
	The civil trial of Coomer v.
	Lindell et al.
	It began this week.
	Yesterday was jury selection.
	Jurors were asked a bunch of questions about whether they knew who Mike Lindell was and whether they heard about this trial in the media.
	They were asked about Trump in the elections and whether or not they were rigged.
	They were asked about whether they had accounts on True Social or Parler.
	Did they know who Rudy Giuliani or Sidney Powell was?
	What we saw with the, you know, allegations made against individuals related to these elections, the cyber attack or the cyber security symposium that was conducted in August 2021 was a part of the questioning.
	They asked about Tina Peters, Joel Oppmann.
	The 2020 election news cycle, what coverage they were watching.
	That's what they're asking all of these jurors.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, well, they need to talk to me.
	Well, no, this is about jury selection, though, right?
	I know, but in the case, I can tell them how they knew to look for the fraud and where they knew to look for it.
	It was me.
	It was Nicholas Robert Ngo on the air right now.
	I know you were there, right, at the cyber symposium?
	I wasn't physically there, but I told them where the fraud would be, and they looked exactly where it was, and that's where it was.
	And then they destroyed the evidence.
	Like so many people I know, we're all connected to this, Nick.
	I mean, it's like you and Ron Watkins and a bunch of other people.
	You know...
	I want to get more of this, but if you have anything else you want to add, I'll let you finish, but I wanted to talk about the trial.
	I hope that if they really wanted to have a fair trial, they would contact me, and they would have me talk, and I would give my testimony in the case.
	Well, maybe we'll call Mike.
	I mean, we have Mike's contact.
	We might have to.
	Yeah, I know.
	We really have to.
	Yeah, we have to.
	Dude.
	And not only would it crush them, It would crush them, like, going back to 2016.
	They would be destroyed in the state.
	We can do this off-air, though.
	We have Mike's contact.
	We can call him and see what he's doing.
	He's right here.
	He's right up the street in Denver at the federal courthouse, so it won't be too far.
	We could even maybe drive down and talk to his lawyers.
	Anyway, former Director of Product Strategy and Security for Dominion Voting Systems, Eric Coomer.
	Is facing Mike Lindell in this lawsuit brought in federal court right here in the state of Colorado, of course.
	Talk about shopping for a favorable jurisdiction.
	Coomer, who is suing Lindell for defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and civil conspiracy, claims that Lindell's conduct provoked an onslaught of harassment and credible death threats issued against him.
	The lawsuit centers around alleged false claims and defamatory statements made by Mike Lindell as a result of accusations made by Joel Altman, the conservative daily podcast now untamed following the 2020 election.
	alleged that he had covertly infiltrated a phone call for Antifa members prior to the 2020 election.
	During the call, Allman claims a man identified as Eric from Dominion had ensured that President Trump would not win and that he made efforts.
	On that call was likely Eric Coomer, then director of product strategy and security for Dominion voting systems.
	Following the election, numerous vitriolic social media posts by Coomer against President Trump and anyone who supports him, including Coomer's own family and coworkers, surface, some with demands that family and friends stop following him and unfriend him.
	In a 2021 New York Times article by Susan Diminis titled, He Was the Perfect Villain for Voting Conspiracists, Coomer does not dispute the posts, but rather expresses regret that he didn't delete them.
	Down in Denver at the federal court building with Mike Lindell.
	So it's not even necessarily about the validity of the election as much as it is about the conspiracy and the harassment or whatever that happened.
	But to attribute that to Mike Lindell is a big stretch in my opinion.
	And I think they're doing everything they can to destroy him.
	So we've got to take a break.
	But, Nick, I can tell you if something you want to say.
	So if you guys want to hear what Nick has to say, stay tuned.
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	Everybody look what's going down Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
	And Nick, you got cut off by the break, and a little bit by me, but we'll blame the commercial break, predominantly.
	So, I never want to cut you off, so here's the floor.
	Take the floor.
	What did you have to say?
	Alright, so this guy that's suing Mike Lindell, it's really hard to spend money if you've been tried and convicted and executed for treason or attempts to You know, that's just a shame of the circumstances because,
	you know, he shouldn't have someone who committed treason flagrantly and very clearly erasing the evidence on that machine, and then they got rid of the evidence before the paper ballots before the 22 months was up that you're supposed to keep it on hand.
	Not only that, they erased it the next week.
	It was one week later they erased Tina Peters' You know, her data, which is a federal crime.
	And it's not just one location.
	It happened all over from these people.
	So it was a contrived effort to commit treason.
	There's no escape from this.
	And then if they want to try and go after Mike Lindell, I will testify in court how I know what their strategy was, how I knew where to look.
	And how I knew that the 2016 election was rigged the same way, and that's how I knew that they were going to do what they did, and that's how they found the evidence this time.
	If they really want to go toe-to-toe, Mike can have me come in there, and I will testify under oath, explaining that I knew that they tried to steal the 2016 election, and that's why there was the Russia investigation.
	That's why they went after Trump and said, Russia, Russia, Russia, because they knew they were caught.
	They got caught and then someone stopped them from using Barack Obama's personal VPN from cheating in the 2016 election.
	They were using Barack Obama's VPN to access the cheating technology.
	Okay?
	This is in real time.
	So the DOD is like, you know, the guy they had examined the machines, he examined the machines before the 2016 election.
	And Obama's like, uh, they look all right to you?
	Uh, you know?
	And of course the guy looking at it is an expert.
	I like that Obama sounds like Mickey Mouse.
	That's kind of funny.
	Ha ha.
	Well, look, I mean, I obviously I disavow everything you said for legal purposes.
	And I take no.
	I'll testify under oath.
	Disavow, disavow.
	Whatever you just said, I completely reject and disavow it.
	That is not endorsed by this show.
	But, yeah, no, it sounds reasonable.
	I mean, I think, you know...
	It's about this harassment.
	It sounds like it's about inflicting emotional distress and defamation and conspiracy to do that.
	So it's not really litigating the...
	Well, we do know.
	Like, that's the thing.
	I do know.
	I don't know anything.
	You don't know anything.
	Legally, we don't know anything.
	We just say allegedly, Nick, and then we...
	So that's important to put out there.
	But anyway, stay tuned.
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	We have some other stories we want to get to here, including some ominous predictions and things that came out of a conference in Odessa, right, that took place.
	The day before the strike hit Ukraine that took out 40% of their strategic bombers for their nuclear triad.
	The strike that hit Russia from Ukraine.
	Mike Pompeo, the former director of the CIA, delivered a 10-minute speech before he sat down and answered questions with Alexei Goncharenko.
	This all took place after former CIA Director and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was the keynote speaker at the Black Sea Security Forum in Odessa, Ukraine.
	Now again, this security forum took place the day before this strike hit Russia.
	Nick, is that a coincidence?
	Because I have a few quotes here that are interesting.
	Let's read those quotes first.
	All right, so I'll give you kind of a short summary of it.
	The Black Sea Security Forum in Odessa, which was initiated by a group of Ukrainian parliamentarians in 2024 under the leadership of Alexei Goncharenko, It has become the first and largest geopolitical event in southern Ukraine since the start of the Russian invasion in 2022, bringing together key figures from national governments, international institutions, and expert communities.
	This year's event, whose main sponsor was, you guessed it, a British lord named Lord Ashcroft.
	This is like straight up a Bond villain movie.
	Lord Ashcroft took place on May 30th, right?
	To June 1st, the day before the attack took place.
	Mike Pompeo gave a speech, which was actually quite terrifying.
	The timing of the speech obviously suspects since Ukraine's unleashed a historic drone attack deep inside Russia the following day, Ukraine and its Western allies used drones to blow up Russian bombers, right?
	So here are some quotes.
	Mike Pompeo, quote, There's only one outcome that is remotely tolerable to the world, and that is victory.
	It's winning.
	There can be variations.
	Sometimes you can win by the other player storming out of the room.
	Sometimes you can win by total defeat and taking that player's king.
	But always victory is measured in the minds of the two participants and those who are observing the game itself.
	And I would suggest to you today that if the conclusion of this conflict isn't that those who are observing this game don't understand that this was a win for the good guys and a defeat for the bad guys, it is very clear that the bad guys sit in Moscow, not in Kiev, then the world will be a very different place.
	He went on to say, if you ask me, tell me, or he said, it's...
	If you ask me, Mike, tell me, what is it that you see as victory?
	It is the world's perception that we are prepared to take the risks necessary in order, not that we win combat, not that we win victories by crushing armies in the field, but that we preserve peace in the world and are modeled and are perceived in the world as strong enough and determined enough and prepared to fight collectively such that these wars never begin.
	He insisted on a peace agreement going on to say that it would be unrealistic, saying, Last thought, and then I'll take questions, that deterrence, that model that would have and could have prevented what happened, doesn't end with a ceasefire.
	It doesn't end the day that Vladimir Putin says, at least for the moment, I'm going to stop.
	This is a man who has no intention of changing.
	He has been pursuing the vision of restoring what he once knew as the greater Russian Empire, the Soviet Union.
	His vision has not changed and is not going to change.
	That means our resolve must be forever.
	It's not the case that we can sign an agreement, make a deal, bring NATO closer together.
	This model of deterrence must remain.
	So then, Mike Pompeo was asked a question.
	Mike said, quote, We ought not to preclude Crimea being not only part of Ukraine, but a functional operational part of Ukraine by recognizing it, even if it is not achievable, to do what we all would really like to see happen there in the moment.
	This continues and there will be another day.
	Then Pompeo added, was this an eerie prediction of things to come?
	He said, quote, No one expected the Soviet Union to fall in 1989.
	Things happen and they break, but they only do so in the face of enormous resolve and real cost-imposing actions on the part of the West.
	Nick, thoughts?
	Okay, so the Black Sea Odessa Forum.
	That meeting with Alexei Gontraria and the other person.
	You know, the Lord Ashcroft, that is because they're trying to restore, the whole point is to restore Kazaria so they can grift every seaport, the Black Sea, the Strait of Hormuz, the trade routes from Asia to Europe, the Europe to Asia trade routes.
	Any trade that comes basically around there.
	It's their Panama Canal deal.
	It'd be just like that.
	That's what Greater Israel is all about.
	It's not about Israel.
	It's not about Ukraine.
	It's about restoring Kazaria so they can grift every...
	And so that's what that meeting was really about, is the deep state.
	They're like, man, we could really grift everything if we get this under control here.
	That's why we're having the Black Sea focus now.
	Let's focus on the Black Sea extension.
	Kind of sounds like that's why Russia is so adamant about not seeding it.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
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	Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
	And, Nick, when I hear the comments made by Mike Pompeo the day before the attack in Russia by Ukraine, and these comments being made, of course, at a security conference hosted by Lord Ashcroft in Ukraine, it kind of solidifies the point I was making earlier about What I believe the real motivation for all this is, but I think you did hit on something.
	The restoration of Kazaria seems to be at the heart of a lot of this, but, you know, that's your descriptor for it.
	But I mean, obviously, I doubt they will call it Kazaria, and I doubt they will call it Greater Israel.
	But the intent seems to be...
	And I think, you know, this is why, you know, like, if you ever think about it in just the most simplistic of terms, I mean, modern Israel is essentially a creation of the British Royal Empire, right?
	Yes.
	So if you think about it in those terms, you know, we're not—it's easy to say, oh, it's Israel, it's Israel, it's Israel.
	I think it's more the factions that have had the most control recently, like the British Empire.
	You know, trying to restate claims in territories that would give them more control over their own destiny, particularly with regard to Ukraine, because like I said, and like you said, these warm water ports, these waterways are very powerful in what they provide access to,
	and not to mention the farmland, not to mention the mineral resource, not to mention the oil and gas resource wealth that Ukraine Which is of vital and key strategic, long-term strategic importance for the, you know, success and power of Britain and the British Empire that has waned, but is still there to a degree.
	So if you think about it in those terms, I mean, I think Britain's trying to re-seize control of their destiny, and they want to expand.
	You know, it's funny how they always say, And for better or worse, you know, you could be on whatever side of this issue.
	I'm on the American side, believe it or not.
	But, you know, you hear Mike Pompeo with Lord Ashcroft saying, hey, these Ruskies, they just want to rebuild the Soviet Empire.
	And then you go, okay, well, what do the British want to do?
	Well, the British want to rebuild the British Empire, you know?
	There was a point when the sun never set on the British Empire.
	You know?
	Yeah, well, their plan is to finish Kazaria.
	I mean, why do you think they let their own people be destroyed?
	They intended to move shop over to Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
	That's what they were going to do.
	Well, it's better than being stuck out on a little island, which I'm sure being on an island in the 1800s or before that, 1700s, 1600s, was sort of a strategic bet.
	Military security.
	It would make sense that they'd want to move to somewhere that's like Kazakhstan and Ukraine, where you have massive resource wealth and fertile farmland and strategic mountain ranges that provide certain security benefits, right?
	Right, right, right.
	Right, but, you know, the British king guy, he was too busy chasing around underage people to realize what happened, that their plan didn't work out, and that, you know, the UK has been invaded.
	It's over there, and it's over in a lot of places in Europe.
	Their plan was to allow that to happen, to vacate the areas that they wanted to take over to claim the region.
	And it was all to set up the Kazarian Empire and a grift.
	They wanted to set it up.
	And, you know, they had to set it up because the guys who, the royal family, quote-unquote, is not actually royal.
	They gave up their breeding rights after the Rothschilds told all of the British that...
	But when they did, the Rothschilds bought everything up for pennies on the dollar.
	And then when they got word that Napoleon had actually lost and then didn't matter, they owned Europe at that point.
	And that's when they gave up their breeding rights.
	And the breeding rights were given up to the Rothschild family, and they are not valid.
	So by law, that dude's not in charge or they do a parliament.
	It's kind of an informal thing.
	I feel like they should call it, instead of the Kazarian Empire, call it the New British Empire.
	That would be a more appropriate, I think, moniker for it.
	The New British Empire.
	Because that's what they're trying to reestablish.
	And the United States is saying, go ahead.
	The United States is saying, look, if you want to go to war with Russia over Ukraine, You're an ally to the degree that we need access to European markets because they are what help us economically and the currencies and everything.
	But if you want to go to war, and that's why I think you hear these British politicians talking so fatalistically about Ukraine, like, our entire national security rests on this.
	We're at war with Russia.
	This is the end of the world if we don't win.
	Because it is.
	Like I said, I mean, they understand that once Russia takes over Ukraine fully, Russia's got the farmland, Russia's got the warm water ports, Russia's got the pipelines, Russia's got the mineral resources, Russia's got the gas and oil that they can sell to Europe.
	So then they basically own and control Europe, right?
	And it'll be...
	And so the United States is like, all right, well, if your prerogative is to go east, right?
	No.
	Yeah.
	East.
	Then that's fine.
	Just don't go west.
	We've cut this off.
	You're not coming back here.
	There's going to be another revolution in America.
	So I feel like that's what this is all about, if I'm spitballing and wargaming here.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The UK is, they're panicking.
	That's why they went to go talk in Canada recently.
	The leader guy, whoever, we'll forget his name.
	He looks deathly ill.
	Anyway, because he probably got AIDS.
	Prince, or what is it?
	King Charles, right?
	King Charles.
	Yeah, probably got AIDS and all kinds of stuff.
	But anyway, that guy showed up to Canada and he said basically to them that you are a colony.
	you're not a country.
	And then above that, it had the establishment date of their colony until, uh, 20, So I think that basically Trump went over there made a deal and said hey listen you're not even a valid king in the first place because the breeding rights we know about that.
	We know that it wasn't royals that have been born and that are in charge.
	That would explain why Trump's been pushing so hard with the whole like why don't you just become the 51st state thing.
	You know what I mean?
	Because he's basically saying it's like when Washington, D.C. was vacated after the corporation went bankrupt, right?
	And then we had to hold it militarily speaking to reclaim that international law, maritime law, right?
	Yeah, and guess who we have?
	We have bases, American bases, in a couple of places, No Bay, Canada, and a couple of other places.
	So we've already occupied the territory for a year since, let's say, it was vacated in 2018, and it's already over.
	We own it.
	It's already done.
	According to maritime law and according to admiralty law, it's ours.
	Yeah, but you have to slowly get the people to accept the notion before you can implement the seizure and control fully, right?
	So it's like dipping your toe into a warm bath.
	You don't just jump in.
	You know, that's what's happening here, I think.
	And look, a lot of this stuff, a lot of people I'm sure listening fully understand what we're talking about.
	This may go right over some people's heads.
	This may sound crazy and completely out of a lunatic asylum for some.
	But the truth is, always stranger than fiction.
	And in this world in which we live, I think the things that are happening on that scale, like global maritime law type scale, This isn't publicly disclosed stuff.
	This isn't stuff you go report on the nightly news with Lester Holt, right?
	Yeah, most people are.
	It's too complex for them to understand, honestly.
	Most people can't.
	Yeah, that's not a knock on people.
	I'm sure people are smart enough that if you sat them down and walked them through these different things, they would fathom it and be able to comprehend it.
	But it's like you're not taught this in school, so it's hard to have an expectation that you're like, oh, I totally get that, you know?
	And I know it sounds crazy, but ultimately there's always going to be two worlds, right, Nick?
	There's going to be the world we live in that we're given to believe is true, like what's in the history books, what's on the TV, and then there's going to be the world that is real, if that makes sense.
	Yeah, it's all smoke and mirrors.
	There's five and six layers to what's really going on, Craig.
	And if you can't keep track every day of what's going on, who did what, then as soon as you lose track of it, then you've got to put a lot of time to get back into it, right back into understanding what's going on.
	It's different layers, different, like you said, factions, different agendas all playing against each other.
	And it's really interesting to watch with a 30,000-foot view.
	Yeah, I like how you say 30 because not many people have the 40,000 foot view, right?
	That one's a little more difficult to get because that one really does pull back the veil on a lot of stuff.
	But I think of it in a way, I think of it like if you read a lot of history, it's not like everything in our history books is fake, right?
	It's not like that.
	Certain events and certain things are portrayed a certain way, and this will lead to a perception that is either a misperception or almost like a lie by omission, right?
	Because you're just not being told the full story.
	And I think of it as, when you look historically at empires, right?
	You had the Soviet Empire.
	You had the British Empire.
	And we're taught about the...
	Dynastic monarchies and et cetera, et cetera.
	And Napoleon, whatever.
	And you understand that a lot of that stuff you're told is very true, but the funny thing is that people think that sometime around, I don't know, like the 1900s, early 1900s, that that all just disappeared.
	Like, there were no more monarchies.
	There were no, like, real monarchies.
	Like, they were just puppet heads, you know?
	Like, the king of Britain is just a figurehead, and parliament really has control.
	Well, if you believe that, then, you know, I got a bridge to sell you, right?
	It's like, honestly, like, the king controls Britain.
	And a lot of the British people know that, to a degree.
	But even some of them have been taught, like, oh, yeah, you know, we're really empowered.
	We have parliament.
	It's like, okay, who does parliament answer to, right?
	Why is everything in the name of the king or the queen, you know?
	It's like, these aren't just figureheads, people.
	These are people who control it.
	And it's the same for other countries as well, including the United States.
	I think there is sort of a dynastic power complex.
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	And I think we're hitting on some interesting points here, Nick.
	I mean, just with regard to, you know, history and where we're at.
	And when I say that, like, a lot of it is deceptive or misleading, it really does.
	Like, why do they call, you know, Australia and Canada and New Zealand and...
	Because they're subject to the crown.
	The crown is the king or the queen.
	They appoint the governors.
	They appoint the governors of those territories.
	And they say it's ceremonial, right?
	Because they're like, well, we vote.
	And then they just kind of, they have to say yes to whatever we vote to.
	But has anybody ever, like, seen a scenario where the king, like, it...
	You don't see that.
	You don't see that.
	And somebody else texted in, and I thought it was funny.
	They said, all of our history is fake.
	And to an extent, I agree.
	You know, I mean, because if your pretext is set off of something that's misleading or deceptive, then...
	Yeah.
	But I think that, you know, there's things that are very difficult to lie about.
	Fake is a good word because it's not that it's...
	Like, the actors, the players are real.
	The events are real.
	Things happened.
	Wars happened.
	All that's real.
	That's not fake.
	But, like, the explanation for why wars happened, that's usually fake.
	You know what I mean?
	I guess that does make sense to that degree, right?
	Yeah, I really wish that they were just more honest about everything.
	If everybody was honest like President Trump, and he'd be like, hey, look, you guys don't use this Greenland.
	We have interest in it.
	Let's do something.
	You know, just straight up tell them, don't do all this backstabbing and spending, you know, $50 billion to try and change their minds.
	That's craziness.
	We should talk to the people.
	They're people like we are.
	They breathe the same air.
	They have families.
	They want their families to do well, and they want their country to thrive.
	Most people.
	You know, most leaders, even.
	And that's what Trump, you know, he celebrates that for them.
	Great.
	Go after what's good for your country, Blue.
	Let's make a deal.
	You know, let's stop this dagger stuff, cloak and dagger, all in the shadows stuff.
	It's over.
	Like, just be transparent with everybody.
	Tell them what you need, and if they don't give it to you, say, hey, all right, well.
	Well, we have a dispute and we're going to take it from you.
	We're going to kill you and take your stuff.
	You have a choice to make.
	Are you going to do this for us?
	Make a deal or not?
	And then just say it like that and be done with it.
	And then they'll be like, oh, well, I guess I don't want to die.
	I'll give you my things.
	And then that's it.
	No, Nick.
	No, Nick.
	We're way more civilized than that now.
	I mean, you know, we drank tea and have You know, like that was the British, that was part of their, one of their big follies, right?
	They were trying to civilize the world, right, in an uncivilized world.
	But I don't know.
	I mean, I think a lot of it is interesting.
	A lot of it is very, especially then you go like, you know, start thinking about it and go, okay, well, What would be the comparison here in the United States for, I don't know, like the British royal family?
	Well, I mean, obviously, the founding fathers had deep ties to Great Britain, obviously.
	They had secret fraternal orders, obviously, such as Freemasons and other things, you know, that to a large degree probably have still strong pull and effect in today's world.
	Which are unseen, right?
	They're not like, you don't wake up every day and go, oh man, there's another Freemason over there.
	That's why they have secret handshakes, right?
	And there's secret little clubs that they hide in and, you know, do all their things where they, their little rituals that they do, right?
	And a lot of these people can trace their lineage.
	I know one family that I've encountered in this.
	Process that actually can trace their lineage all the way back to biblical times.
	Same family.
	And, you know, I think that, like you said, this is a long-time power struggle.
	And ultimately, it goes back to the money.
	And if you look at that, you look at the Orsinis and the Italians, really, who control the Vatican.
	and then the Vatican controls X, Y, Z, and so on.
	And if we just made sure that that was overtly talked about more often, I think that could help a lot too, you know.
	You've got to give them credit.
	They make these ridiculous movies with, like, Tom Hanks in the Dan Brown novels, you know, where it's like, oh, he's decrypting the ancient secrets of the Vatican.
	and he's going to solve the puzzle and uncover the secret of everything.
	And it's like...
	I mean, it's sort of a dynastic empire that, you know, at one point controlled most of the known world.
	And today is, again, like the British Empire sort of waning in power.
	And other factions are rising.
	and there's gonna be a battle for what's left.
	I mean, that's what China, I think China's kind of like an interesting case study in that.
	They have ancient dynasties.
	And you know, all the high-ranking members of the CCP, I'm sure similar to...
	It's very fascinating.
	I've studied it very closely.
	I've done a very cursory glance of it, but essentially like there are very longstanding, um, And the Communist Party is relatively new, right?
	1950s.
	It's sort of a conception or inception.
	And today, the people running the party, essentially Xi Jinping and some of his interfaction, They're competing with factions from territories and regions who, similar to, like, what you said, a lot of these people trace their lineage back hundreds if not thousands of years, right?
	And they're the ones, you know what I mean?
	So, it's a tale as old as time, practically, right?
	Yeah, and Craig, you know, this is biblical, man.
	It's why it's spiritual.
	This goes all the way back to Babylon and beyond, man.
	This is deep stuff, and that's who we're fighting.
	These people, you know, with Solomon and stuff, they actually were, you know, they would summon demons and try and get information from them, and they would use a pentagram and so on or whatever to keep them in there.
	And I really think that they did.
	I think they were successful in that.
	I really do think that they were able to do things.
	I really think that that's been happening for a long time.
	At the conclusion of all this, we may not get to find out the truth about everything like that, but it's certainly a spiritual one.
	I think we will.
	I think when we join our Maker, everything will be made clear.
	I don't think we'll be able to figure it out in this world, in this temporal plane of existence, but certainly in the next, I'm almost certain we'll be given the full picture of it all.
	But I mean, regardless, we are here where we are now, and I just find it fascinating to understand these things a little bit more deeply, because it does, it changes how you perceive the world.
	And it actually, in my opinion, makes the systems of control less effective because you can see through it clearly, which I think is ultimately a good tool to have.
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	So, Nick, we had some other stories we wanted to get into here today.
	You know, not too much time.
	But we had some texts coming in.
	I want to read those real quick since we're in our second to last segment.
	Somebody texted in from the 720 and said, a court of law said a president can't apply tariffs and locked up grannies for 20 years for stepping over a velvet rope.
	When do we disregard corporate institution or corrupt institutions, excuse me?
	And then they said, oh yeah, and ICE can't deport illegal immigrants.
	A banana republic.
	Look, everybody's got to make the decision for themselves what they will accept and what they will not accept.
	I think that for the sake of order, we can restore this republic.
	It's going to take some time and it's going to be a bit of a mess, but it is very possible.
	Right, Nick?
	Well, yeah, yeah, because everybody, don't forget that in the end, we all got to make sure that, you know, soldiers and people who take that oath, they take the oath for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to protect those, irregardless of what any.
	It's our military.
	They will step in and take control, and it's very likely that that will happen at this point because of the treason.
	It's so rampant.
	Interesting.
	Somebody texted in as well.
	And they said they want to hear our perspective on what Putin's—I'm assuming that's what they meant to write.
	It says Purim, but I'm saying—I think it's Putin.
	Probably a typo.
	What Putin's next action or retaliation may be, they cite and reference the Tom Clancy book, The Sum of All Fears, as a very plausible scenario.
	Look, you have to understand, Putin's got all the cards at this point, in my opinion, in that battle.
	Right?
	He's got the troops on the ground in Ukraine.
	He's got the territorial advantage as far as having a direct land border from which, a vector from which, it's a vulnerability, but it's also an advantage in regard to the access to be able to get in and conduct these operations.
	We're the ones fighting at a disadvantage to a degree, and our allies are.
	I think that even though this is an obvious, you know, escalation, it would only stand to reason that his retaliation is going to be, like Nick, you were saying before, I think we were talking about this before the show, we might have mentioned it on air, I don't remember, but a lot of those bombers that were destroyed were probably like relics, like antiques from, you know, predating the Cold War.
	So it's not like...
	It was more like that's what they can touch.
	I mean, and if you think about it, like you said, a part of our strategic arms agreements and our, you know, denuclearification stuff like we did, it was all about like, okay, so you have to put your bombers out so that we can see each other's bombers.
	They're obsolete.
	Yeah, they're junk.
	They're junk.
	And so to blow him up is, it's not like there's a reason why that attack was greenlit.
	I mean, maybe a message, maybe a strong message, but...
	They still have the submarines, the Trident submarines, or we have the Tridents, right?
	And they have the whatever class of subs they have.
	So I think, you know, I've said it to you before the show, Nick, I think.
	know the the hypersonics are the the first preferred method of delivery because they're very difficult to stop the ICBMs are sort of the backup plan the insurance policy and at any point if either of those were all launched at in the air there wouldn't be you could stop one but probably not the other like if you stop the hypersonic
	Probably not.
	That's probably why Trump wants to put that big golden dome or whatever over America.
	But, yeah.
	Any thought on that, Nick, as we go to break?
	40 seconds?
	Yeah, yeah.
	There's no way we'd have an actual war, and those are antiquated technologies.
	I mean, they've got stuff that'll melt you from space.
	They don't need those anymore.
	Are you talking about those space lasers everybody keeps talking about?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, it'd be like a fart in the wind.
	You'd be gone.
	Oh, my God.
	That reminds me of Mars attacks.
	Remember when they have the little lasers?
	All right.
	And then they zap them.
	All right.
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	Real quick, though, Nick, final thought of the day.
	Final thought is, man, we stay positive.
	We're doing really well.
	We're winning.
	You know, don't forget that God wins, man.
	Amen, brother.
	Appreciate that.
	And we appreciate you, Nick.
	And we'll see you again on Friday.
	Nick's going to take tomorrow off and just have a good old day.
	You know, sometimes you just want to hang out and have fun.
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	Because if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man looking at his own face in a mirror.
	For he looks at himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was.
	But the one who looks intently into the perfect law of freedom and perseveres in it and is not a forgetful hearer but one who does good works, This person will be blessed in what he does.
	And I love to be able to share these words with you because I believe wholeheartedly that these are words we can use as inspiration for ourselves in our own lives to go out and to remind ourselves that not only do we have to accept the word as it is written, but we must go out and act upon it in the way that God has worked.
	And this is just another way that we have to take account for our own actions and remember what we see in the mirror each day.
	And that that's what others see in us, and that we are a living reflection of God's love in our hearts and in our lives, and we can choose to either act on that or we can choose to ignore it and forget it.
	And I choose to act on it, and I hope you do the same, and I hope that you reflect on that, and no pun intended, obviously.
	And remember that if we look intently into the perfect law of freedom and persevere in it, and do...
	Use it for yourself as motivation and encouragement today.
	If you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, I encourage you now, open your heart, say a prayer, call upon His name, accept Him as your Lord and Savior, and let Him enter your life and do great things.
	That's where I'm going to leave it.
	I'm sorry if I didn't get to all the texts today, but we appreciate you guys.
	We appreciate everybody listening, and Nick Ngo, thank you to him as well.
	We'll have him back on Friday, and we're just grateful to everybody out there listening.
	Remember, keep it locked in here.
	We'll be back tomorrow, same time, same place, God willing.
	Until then, I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
	We'll see you on the next one.
	Godspeed, and God bless each and every one of you patriots.
	Jesus is just alright, believe.
	Jesus is just alright, oh yeah.
	Jesus is just alright.
	This is Mark Hall, host of the Come Out of Her My People show here on the Roar of the Rockies.
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