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	It is the middle ground between light and shadow, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.
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	Welcome, welcome, welcome.
	It is a pleasure to have you guys here.
	I hope you're having a wonderful day.
	Apologies for the audio being a little wonky there in the beginning, but we got it figured out.
	Here's the thing, guys.
	Today's special show, of course, it is going to be an interesting one.
	So I have a couple stories I want to hit just right off the bat here, but Most of the show we're going to be playing an interview I heard last night that I have to share with you guys because it is in my humble opinion one of the most consequential interviews for understanding the exact
	plan that is unfolding before our eyes for our geopolitical strategy that the deep state is operating globally and internally and all of the reasoning and machinations that make up the functions of the censorship industrial complex
	it's an interview that was done between tucker carlson and a man who goes by the name of mike benz who has an interesting a very interesting background.
	around.
	And I'll just say this, that when you listen to this interview, they start off talking about Pavel Durov, who is the Telegram founder who was just picked up on charges in France.
	But they go into so much more.
	They talk about the actual structure of the deep state.
	What their motivation is behind all of it, everything from Ukraine, to other foreign national interventions, to Russia, to why censorship is necessary, how censorship is being implemented, how it's viewed by the deep state itself, which is the bureaucracy, what entities, these NGOs, and how they all operate.
	I mean, it is by far one of the most comprehensive Explanations that I believe fully encapsulates the truth and I got to give credit where it's due.
	Mike Benz is going to be a very valuable resource for information going into the future.
	Not that he wasn't already.
	I mean, I was familiar with his work and I've been following him for quite some time and I've played him here on the show before, but This interview so clearly and succinctly put together so many different ideas that I have to share with you guys, and I will.
	It's two hours.
	I don't know if we'll listen to the whole two hours.
	Probably not.
	We won't be able to get there, but that's coming up, and that's something that I want to play in a minute, but we have a couple of stories.
	I mean, Denver, Colorado, this state is just, it's done.
	I don't even know.
	The people running this state have a true disdain for we, the American people.
	We have Venezuelan gangsters getting national stories now in Denver and Aurora.
	There's taking over apartment complexes with, you know, large, you know, not assault rifles, large rifles and guns.
	They're taking over the entire building, forcing people out.
	And it is insane right now.
	For instance, we just had a truck driver who was involved in a fatal crash on Highway 285.
	It's just facing one year in prison, right?
	And you go, oh, well, you know, who knows what the circumstances are?
	Well, turns out also, on top of that, he didn't have a valid commercial driver's license and he's an illegal immigrant.
	He's here illegally.
	So, this is what you get.
	You get what you vote for, Denver and Colorado.
	This is the failure I saw in California when I lived there for only three years, but it was long enough for me to see what a failed state looks like, and we are on the fast track.
	We are on the fast track.
	I mean, I can point out a thousand different similarities between what I saw in California and what I've seen here in Colorado and how Colorado is just following that same model.
	But we should have contempt and disdain for all of our elected politicians who are behind the policies that lead to this sort of destructive stuff.
	You know, Denver Police are pretty much useless.
	They've come out and said, well, you know, we're worried about Tren de Aragua, the Venezuelan gang of Venezuelan nationals who shouldn't even be in our state in the first place, but we're not sure about them taking over buildings.
	No big deal.
	Don't worry about it.
	Hey, if you got any tips, let us know.
	Oh, great.
	Thanks.
	Round of applause for a Denver Police Department.
	You're really doing a great job.
	And I know people will say, oh well the Denver Police, I have buddies who are cops in Denver and I've asked them about this and they say they're handcuffed.
	They can't do anything because the politicians won't let them, the prosecutors won't prosecute.
	They won't pursue these crimes so the police can throw up their hands and go, I don't know what you want me to do, I can arrest the guy and then they're just gonna release him!
	Or I can go arrest the guy who just caused a fatal accident, who's not here legally, who doesn't have a commercial driver's license, and he's gonna get a year in prison!
	And then be released back onto our streets!
	Not back to the country where he should go and get the hell out of here from!
	So...
	This is disgusting, Colorado.
	I am appalled and sickened and I hope that something changes here soon because these people abjectly, you know, just abject evil, the ones who are putting the policies in place.
	And they're doing it with a smile on their face, and they're paving the path to hell with the best intentions because it makes them feel so good and virtuous to tell us that all the illegals who are coming here, they're not Venezuelan gangsters or, you know, reckless criminals.
	They're dreamers who have a future in America who want prosperity and just want to get away from the bad conditions that they're fleeing.
	No.
	Venezuela's emptying their jails into our country, and guess where they're all arriving?
	Here in Colorado!
	You're welcome!
	And you know why they're arriving here in Colorado?
	Because of our degenerate, feckless governor and his lackeys, like Janet Griswold, who are completely in violation of the law, they should be brought up on charges, and they should be in prison.
	They should be in prison right now.
	They should not be running this government, yet we live in a crazy world where somehow they are in control.
	Well, how long?
	How much longer, Colorado?
	How much longer are we going to put up with it?
	Does it have to kill one of your family members before you really start getting upset?
	Do you have to suffer because of this?
	Criminal element?
	Because right now it seems everyone's okay with just watching Denver crumble.
	And what do you think is going to come from that?
	That's all going to move out into the countryside.
	It's all going to move out into the neighboring cities.
	It's going to be coming into Fort Collins even more prevalently.
	It's going to be coming into Weld County and Larimer County and all the counties surrounding.
	But you know where it won't go?
	And they'll make damn sure of it.
	They won't go to Vail, and it won't go to Aspen, and it won't go to all the liberal elite strongholds where they mock us and Boulder.
	You know, even though Boulder's a crap hole, I got a buddy who's in the Boulder Police Department, and he said, look, it's like this.
	If you go downtown Pearl Street, you can be a homeless guy.
	You can do whatever the hell you want.
	But you step foot in one of those fancy neighborhoods, ooh, you bet your bottom dollar you're going to jail.
	Because it's rules for thee and not for me.
	That's what they want.
	Stay tuned.
	We're coming back.
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	I never knew there'd come a day When I'd be saying to you Don't let this good love slip away Now that we know that it's true Don't you know the kind of man I am?
	No, said I'll never fall in love again But it's real and the feeling comes shining through So come and do Little girl That I never did this bad that I think So come and do Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio And just to kind of wrap up what I was saying there for you And you can tell I'm upset because this is disgusting I saw it happen in California.
	I saw what the end result of it all is because I got there far after California had been destroyed, but I can see where we're at here in Colorado, where it is in the process of becoming California, and it will not too long from now, but don't worry.
	If you're in Vail or Aspen or if you're in Telluride or if you're in one of the fancy parts, you know, Uh, the fancy suburbs down there, you'll be fine because the police will actually do their job there, right?
	Because they're allowed to.
	But if you go to the city with your family, you might get knifed by a homeless person who will stab you with a dirty needle if you don't, you know, give him some change.
	Because that's what it means to be inclusive and diverse and equitable.
	I mean, for crying out loud, you have literally Multiple parks in the Denver Metro area and surrounding area being closed because of drug use and violence and vandalism.
	Their park, they shut down La Alma, Lincoln Park, Sonny Lawson Park, and a green space have had to be shut down because of public open air drug use, vandalism and gang violence.
	But, it's all great!
	You know, that's the kind of diversity we want here in Colorado, right?
	We want more violent criminals attacking our children at parks and selling them drugs.
	That just seems totally great!
	I mean, I don't know about you, but I want, when my kid goes to the park, I want a homeless person to offer them crack rocks!
	That sounds like a great time for me!
	And of course I'm being sarcastic.
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	They got the rainbow flags everywhere, got a bunch of homeless people laying on the ground, a bunch of freaks running around there.
	It is absolutely absurd how we've come here.
	This state, I love this state and I think it's worth fighting for, but the trajectory we're on is California Junior.
	We're there.
	We're pretty much there.
	So from the seven to six, maybe these politicians need to be peacefully and patriotically taken to an undisclosed location, encouraged chain, their change their ways and cops not doing their jobs and ignoring the law is not an excuse.
	Maybe citizens need to use the lawlessness and eradicate the illegals in various ways.
	Look, I, I can't get on air and advocate for, you know, vigilantism or anything, but I can say that there has to be something that changes.
	I'm not going to go down there and do anything crazy, but at some point, if you keep this up, it'll either be California or somebody's going to, their people are going to stand up against it.
	But the problem is you have all of these, you know, feckless, spineless, weak little soy boys that live down in these big cities that come here from out of state because they want to smoke pot and, you know, be whatever they think they're going to be out here and And they don't care.
	They could care less.
	As long as they can go get their weed at the dispensary and go drink their, you know, craft microbrewery beer.
	They don't give two craps if homeless people are stabbing each other in the park trying to sell your kids crack.
	They could care less if Trend Agua goes, Aragua goes, takes over a, you know, a lower class apartment building.
	They do not care, because you know what?
	They're living in a different world.
	They're the kind of people who will, as they're smoking their marijuana and drinking their beer, step over the homeless person on the sidewalk.
	Walk around the tent that's blocking the street.
	And that's the problem here.
	In my humble opinion, from what I've seen.
	There's a reason why I went, the last time I went to Denver, I had a nice dinner, but I mean, I mean, homeless people were everywhere.
	I was, I was accosted by them.
	You know, you got dirty, dirty conditions.
	The streets are filthy.
	Everybody's just, you know, flipping high out of their mind.
	And, and, and they're like, oh, this is good.
	This is so progressive.
	This is so great.
	Yeah.
	It's great, isn't it?
	It's going to be wonderful for all of us.
	All right.
	That's my whole rant.
	I had to get it out, but let's go.
	So this is, I want to explain this interview.
	Mike Benz, Tucker Carlson.
	Okay.
	This interview they did, it posted yesterday on X. I'm playing it for you today.
	I believe, like I said before, this is the most consequential interview for understanding the deep state.
	What they're doing, why they're doing it.
	Both domestically and internationally.
	What they are doing in Ukraine, what they're doing in Africa, what they're doing in the EU, what they're doing here in the United States, why they're the censorship regime that they're building and they're implementing, all this is so very, very important.
	So I'm going to play I'm going to play this because it is so vitally important for everyone to understand.
	Again, listen to this.
	Come back to this Brazil case.
	One of the things I've learned from you over the past couple of years, I've learned a lot from you, but one big picture idea that I didn't fully appreciate until I listened to you carefully was that our foreign policy drives our domestic policy.
	There's no such thing as domestic policy.
	Exactly.
	Every country.
	I didn't understand.
	I grew up in a world where there was the foreign policy and like you overthrow Mosaic or whatever.
	Maybe that's good for America.
	You don't even think about it.
	We're fighting the Soviets.
	It's not a problem because we are an island of freedom here in the United States.
	And your reporting and analysis suggests exactly what you just said.
	There is no domestic policy.
	Everything that happens in this country is an outgrowth, a function of Yes.
	There's no such thing as domestic policy because every country's domestic policy is another country's foreign policy.
	Whatever you do in the United States or whatever, any foreign country, a foreign country wants to change its labor laws.
	Well, guess what?
	That impacts the bottom line of U.S.
	corporations who employ labor pools there.
	A foreign country wants to nationalize its graphite industry.
	Well, guess what?
	Now America can't make pencils.
	Everything that every internal policy of every other country on earth impacts the bottom line of some U.S.
	national champion.
	Now, how the State Department defines national interest is essentially the college of corporations and financial firms that are U.S.
	national champions.
	So, for example, if Georgia or Azerbaijan does something that impacts the bottom line of ExxonMobil or Chevron or Halliburton, that becomes a State Department priority in order to protect U.S. national interests against this nationalization that becomes a State Department priority in order to protect U.S. national interests against this nationalization law And it's the same thing with every industry.
	And so I do want to get back to this sort of exporting the First Amendment concept that was such a big part of American statecraft.
	I think almost no one, there's almost no better example of this than what happened with the State Department's Global Engagement Center, which is the main censorship artery of the U.S.
	State Department.
	It also works with a lot of, a million of these censorship NGOs and USAID and this whole network.
	It was set up by Rick Stengel.
	And, you know, Rick Stengel, you say that his job was to export the First Amendment, former managing editor of Time Magazine, and it's when Donald Trump was elected in 2016, you know, the guy whose job was to export the First Amendment wrote an op-ed, I believe in the Washington Post, effectively calling for an end to the First Amendment, that it needs to mirror And then he wrote a book making the same case.
	And then he wrote a book making the same case.
	Right, right.
	But again, this is the guy who was the undersecretary of public affairs.
	This is a very evil man, Rick Stengel.
	Well, the point that I'm trying to make here is the free speech absolutist who was in charge of U.S. government projection of free speech.
	All it took was one election for the entire diplomacy architecture that, you know, that this principle of free speech was based on to get completely bottomed out.
	All it took was Donald Trump getting elected for arguably 200 years of a First Amendment principle and 70 years of this principle of exporting the First Amendment to be entirely discarded because it was leading to the wrong kinds of people being elected.
	Free speech on the internet was blamed for the loss of the Philippines election by the State Department in 2016.
	It was blamed for the events of Brexit.
	This is why the U.S.
	State Department funds so many London-based NGOs and university centers and influence operations to stop Nigel Farage and the Brexit movement.
	It was blamed for the rise of Trump in 2016.
	It was blamed for the rise of Bolsonaro.
	It was blamed for the rise of Modi in India.
	In country after country, the free and open internet, unfiltered alternative news, the rise of citizen journalists, the rise of citizens in those countries who have larger voices, Then CIA-backed media, then USAID-funded media, then State Department-funded media has meant that the State Department has lost control of those countries.
	And what happened was, after 2016, the technology and the networks were established to be able to add a new toolkit to American diplomacy, which is diplomacy by censorship.
	And we have formal government programs at the State Department Dedicated to getting foreign countries to pass domestic censorship laws to stop the rise of right-wing populist parties in those countries.
	I'm going to say that again.
	We have formal government programs at the State Department whose job is to lobby foreign countries and pressure foreign countries to pass censorship laws to stop the rise of domestic populist groups.
	So you have truckers in America whose income tax is going to pay foreign governments to censor their citizens.
	This is the sort of schizophrenia right now of American diplomacy.
	We're becoming the Soviet Union, which exported poison around the world for all those years.
	I really felt like the United States was the bulwark against that.
	But whether that's true or not, I don't know.
	I'm trying to reassess.
	What is true now is we're doing what they did.
	We're sowing chaos.
	And tyranny around the world.
	It's like I am so heartbroken to see this.
	Well, it's amazing you say that because as someone who is sort of present at creation in terms of watching this all get established and spending my whole life monitoring it and chronicling it, they were very aware of that when they were setting this up.
	And when I say they, I mean NATO, the U.S.
	State Department, the U.K.
	Foreign Office.
	After the 2016 election and after Brexit, And they began this whole consensus building quest about how to get all the relevant stakeholders from the government, from the private sector, from civil society, and from the media to all come together and create this whole society censorship coalition, whole society counter misinformation coalition, technically they call it.
	They were very aware that what they were doing was exactly what they accused Russia and China of doing.
	Intensely aware.
	And there was much, much hand-wringing in the beginning of this, in late 2016, early 2017, that we need to be extremely careful as we are establishing this infrastructure, that it does not appear to be what Russia and China are doing.
	That Russia and China have a... What they said was, effectively, Russia and China don't have the problem that we have.
	They don't have rising populist movements in their countries that are opposed to the state institutions, that are opposed to the state priorities, that are winning political power.
	How do Russia and China solve this problem of domestic populist insurgency?
	Well, they use... I'm not joking when I say this.
	Giving their citizens political power, in other words?
	Yes, yes.
	Do they ever stop and just ask like...
	Since when is it okay for the people in charge of a government to ban populism?
	I don't understand, like, when did we all agree that populism is bad?
	I thought the whole system was fundamentally a populist system.
	The country belongs to its citizens.
	I thought that was the whole deal.
	Oh, I can answer that because it's basically doctrine.
	There's been a redefinition of democracy from meaning the consensus of individuals to meaning the consensus of institutions.
	And this is a very clever sleight-of-hand reframing trick that they played after the 2016 election in the U.S.
	and they were setting this up.
	They're playing with revolution here.
	I mean, they've lost their legitimacy.
	So I'm not going to try to overthrow the U.S.
	government.
	I'm 55.
	I'm not going to do that.
	But at some point, you know, someone's going to try to do that.
	And it's going to be kind of hard to see why they're not justified in doing that.
	Because it's not legitimate.
	Their legitimacy comes from the consent of the government.
	That's our system.
	And when they no longer have the consent of the government, they're not legitimate.
	Period.
	So, all I care about is freedom of speech on the internet.
	But if you have no freedom of speech, it's not a legitimate country.
	So there's a lot to get to on all this that I think is maybe actually picking up where what we were talking about with when they were setting this all up.
	I think it actually kind of elegantly dovetails with the point that you just made.
	When they were setting this up, they said Russia and China don't have this problem.
	We will have a PR nightmare, a crisis of legitimacy if we simulate exactly what Russia and China do, which is top down government control.
	So what they did is they came up with a concept called the whole society framework.
	Alright, so when we come back we'll pick up where we left off, the whole society framework.
	Now, listen to me.
	What you're listening to right now is some of the most important information that I believe you can have in understanding how our government justifies what they do with regard to censorship, foreign policy, and domestic policy.
	You're going to want to hear it.
	Stay tuned, we're coming right back.
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	Welcome back to Sform Talk Radio.
	We're going right back to Mike Benz and Tug Carlson.
	Again, the most consequential interview that I have seen in understanding censorship regimes in America.
	And foreign policy.
	This is so vitally important.
	That would, in order to astroturf the appearance of a kind of bottom-up organic censorship industry, that the government would simply fund and intermediate and direct and pressure.
	So this whole society concept is that the government is not the censor.
	It is simply the quarterback of the censorship ecosystem.
	So it is not like Russia and China in the sense that the Russian Federation says, this media channel is banned.
	Instead, it would be the American government paying to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars all the different censorship ecosystem players and exploiting that leverage to have that outcome arrive semi-organically.
	And they were very careful in establishing it, you know, according to this idea that what we will do is We will be able to essentially have plausible deniability, but even though we're funding it and we're directing it and we are pressuring everyone to join this censorship coalition.
	And so this is how you had tens of millions of dollars from the U.S.
	State Department funding the private sector pop-up censorship mercenary firms, funding the civil society institutions, the universities, the censorship activists, the NGOs, the non-profits, the researchers, and also on the media side and all these U.S. funded, U.S. aid funded and also on the media side and all these U.S. funded, U.S. aid funded media outlets
	And there's an elegant structure to it, which is that the government pays the civil society institutions to do essentially CIA work against our own citizens.
	This is why there's so many CIA analysts at these censorship universities, the censorship labs, they'll call them disinfo labs, you know, at 60 plus US universities all funded by the US government.
	They do... And I assume on cable television too, they're everywhere, on all the channels.
	DHS actually onboards media organizations into its counter disinformation work.
	And again, because media is the fourth quadrant in the whole society framework.
	It's government, private sector, civil society, media, all aligned like a magnet to create the censorship outcomes.
	So there's no holes in the Titanic.
	No one can resist it.
	No one can stop it.
	This is the prop.
	And it was so effective until Elon Musk essentially burst that bubble and until they went a little bit too far with the Disinformation Governance Board.
	And finally, a certain faction within the Republican Party woke up and was able to exert some pressure through the House and Jim Jordan in November 2022.
	But getting back to this point about populism and what this whole counter You know, disinformation, the censorship whole society network does is they did a clever reframing.
	If you, and this is really cute, if you run a Boolean search on Google right now and you look at what places like the Atlanta Council and Brookings and the National Endowment for Democracy were all saying in the months after Trump's election in 2016, they were making the argument that maybe democracy was a mistake because it leads to outcomes like Before they doubled down on it, there was a brief window where they said, you know what, actually democracy leads to outcomes like Donald Trump and Brexit.
	And at the time, NATO, you know, its biggest fear was free speech on the internet.
	In early 2017, NATO periodicals were saying the biggest threat to NATO is not a hostile foreign attack from Russia.
	They would come to eat these words five years later.
	They argued conventional warfare is over.
	The biggest threat to NATO is free speech on the internet, because it's allowing the rise of Marine Le Pen in France.
	It's allowing the rise of Matteo Salvini in Italy.
	It's allowing the rise of the Vox party in Spain, AFD in Germany.
	So we would have Frexit, Grexit, Italexit, Spexit.
	The entire EU would come undone, which meant NATO's commercial arm comes undone, which means NATO comes undone, which means there's no enforcement arm for the IMF and the World Bank.
	So, it would be like the ending scene from Fight Club, where the credit card companies all crash down just because you're allowed to speak your mind on the internet.
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	So, they had this sort of crisis of, well, what do we do about it?
	Democracy is the problem.
	And then they said, well, the problem is our entire diplomatic toolkit.
	Everything that the CIA does, everything the State Department does, everything USAID does, everything that the Pentagon Civil Affairs does, is all under this rubric of promoting democracy.
	This is how we topple foreign governments.
	We only have two predicates for toppling a government.
	One of them is aggression.
	The other one is repression.
	So if they are aggressing against a foreign country, we get to be the world's policemen.
	We get to, you know, topple them for, you know, their military activity.
	But if we can't nail them on that, we can always get them on repression.
	We can say they're repressing their own people.
	So we need to bring democracy there.
	And this is the lion's share of, you know, this is what we did in Belarus.
	This is what we did, you know, in Moscow from This is what we did in all these other countries.
	And I'm not even arguing normatively about whether that's right or wrong.
	But you have to understand that free speech on the internet is the collateral damage of this proxy war.
	But here's how they rescued democracy.
	We need to stick with democracy even though we don't like its outcomes because we take too long to turn the Titanic.
	All of our cloak and dagger, black ops, plausibly deniable.
	Toppling of governments worldwide is all in the name of democracy.
	All the NGOs we fund, all the civil society activists, all the media institutions is all democracy, democracy, democracy.
	So we need to simply, instead of getting rid of this concept of championing democracy, we need to redefine what democracy is.
	We need to make it Not about the consensus of individuals, how people vote, but make it about the consensus of institutions.
	And we will simply define democratic institutions as anyone who supports the US foreign policy establishment and its transatlantic partners in the UK.
	So in the United States, that would mean redefining the system of government from one in which a majority of 350 million people believe something, to one in which a group of, what would it be, 100,000 people?
	Yeah, maybe 100,000 people, probably a third of whom I know.
	In other words, it's like they just took all the power from the American population and awarded it to themselves.
	Yes, and this clever rhetorical sleight of hand allows unspeakable powers that Americans have no idea about.
	I'll give you one example.
	So I said, it's all about institutions now.
	And you know, if you want to watch a funny clip, I posted this on my ex account recently.
	The Bergeren Institute, where Reid Hoffman is a board member, and they were involved in this whole transition integrity project, domestic color revolution blueprint for stopping Trump from being installed as president, even if he won the Electoral College, and they contemplated using Black Lives Matter as a street muscle, and the whole thing was run by a senior Pentagon official with a CIA blue badge.
	And they have, you know, that conference in 2019, the title of it was, How Elections Erode the Democratic Process.
	How Elections Are a Threat to Democracy.
	And because they were moving to this concept that The blob's control over the political and commercial ecosystem of a country cannot be left to the people.
	If we define democracy to be about democratic institutions, then the popular will of the people can still be categorized as a threat to democracy, which would therefore still allow the funding of the billions of dollars worldwide that we have deployed as capital for this.
	And I'll give you a great example of this.
	The National Science Foundation is probably the main funding artery for most of the censorship ecosystem in the United States.
	Now, this comes from a million places.
	Wait, the what?
	I know, it sounds crazy, but listen.
	The National Science Foundation is the civilian arm of DARPA.
	It is and it has been.
	For those who aren't from D.C., will you explain what DARPA is?
	DARPA is the Pentagon's brain.
	DARPA is the reason that we have the internet.
	You know, DARPA, the internet started as a military technology to be able to send and receive information digitally because the Pentagon manages, it's the largest employer in the United States.
	Pentagon manages the American empire.
	After World War II, we had this yawning empire stretching from here to Latin America, to Europe under the Marshall Plan, and all the way out to the Philippines and Asia.
	We had this worldwide empire.
	We had to manage all these counterinsurgency threats, all the domestic populations that were opposed to U.S. hegemony over their own lands.
	So the Pentagon had to be extremely versed in all the regions, understand what was happening politically, what was happening culturally.
	And so the Pentagon farmed out to U.S. universities.
	This is a part of why so much of U.S.
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	We're listening to Mike Benz and Tucker Carlson explaining the censorship industrial complex and our international diplomacy policies and how it's all interrelated and how the strategies and techniques that they're taking to foreign countries have now been turned inwardly
	And this is a great detailed explanation of all the mechanisms and the language that they use and the justifications they use to oppress us and remove our rights for the sake of protecting their oligarchy, their bureaucracy, their dictatorship.
	Let's continue on this.
	Universities, so much work is funded by the Defense Department and is funded by the National Science Foundation.
	It's civilian, civilian arm.
	In fact, the National Science Foundation is the leading subsidizer of all.
	It's the leading source of funding for all higher education funds.
	It's it's I'm not like people think we have a private education, you know, higher education market.
	We don't.
	It's subsidized by the U.S. government.
	And that is a quid pro quo.
	But through DOD.
	Through DOD and through the National Science Foundation, which is the civilian, you know, which is, you know.
	But the National Science Foundation and even the story of the Internet.
	Again, it was created by the U.S.
	military and it was turned over to the National Science Foundation and that's where the dual use comes in.
	When the military, you know, the military developed the cell phone, the military developed GPS, you know, the military developed most of the technology at the R&D level that we now live under.
	In fact, the military developed all the internet anonymity software in order to help Pentagon and CIA and State Department backed political groups Be able to orchestrate.
	Regime change, you know, the VPNs, the Tor network, end-to-end encrypted chat, all these things were Pentagon projects before they became dual use, just like the internet became dual use.
	It was a military project, but then the civilian commercial architecture was built on top of it.
	But the National Science Foundation has two major domestic censorship programs.
	And in the charter documents establishing one of them in 2021, when, you know, in February 2021, right when Biden, the month after Biden took office, This is a $40 million program, and in the charter document it says that the purpose is to stop misinformation about democratic institutions.
	And one of the democratic institutions they define is the media.
	So understand this.
	This is the Pentagon's civilian arm.
	Funding $40 million worth of censorship, explicitly, exclusively, censorship institutions to stop Americans from delegitimizing the media.
	To stop Americans from undermining trust in media.
	If North Korea did this, we would pass sanctions on them.
	If Iran did this, we would pass sanctions on them.
	This is because establishment media, and again politically aligned media with the Blob, has to be propped up as a buffer to drown out the voices of populists.
	So the strategy here is twofold.
	Turning up the knobs of the Blob's propaganda channels, and turning down the knobs of anyone who opposes that.
	Because you can win two ways.
	You can win, well three ways.
	You can win in a fair fight, or you can win by super saturating your own media voice, Or you can win by default because the opposition political party, the opposition political movement, is not allowed.
	This is why the US State Department, after 2016, established, in like 140 countries now, these censorship programs in the name of countering disinformation, in the name of media literacy, in the name of digital resilience.
	They have all these branding terms for it.
	They perceive this Eldorado goldmine of a new method for total political control over a region, which is winning by default by winning by censorship.
	A lot of times people don't believe State Department propaganda.
	They don't believe CIA propaganda.
	And so, no matter how much money you pump into the region, no matter $5 billion Victoria Nuland bragged about being pumped into Ukrainian civil society ahead of the Maidan protests, it still did not penetrate eastern Ukraine, which broke away in the Donbass.
	It still did not penetrate Crimea, who, you know, voted shortly after to join the Russian Federation in a democratic vote.
	So, from their perspective, funding propaganda was not enough.
	We need to kill the ability to surface alternative ideas, because then they can't even make a counter-argument.
	Even if they don't believe the propaganda, there's simply no other choice in the room.
	You don't get access to the other ideas.
	You don't get access to the other data points or news events that might undermine public trust.
	In the State Department's preferred narrative.
	This is where malinformation came from.
	Misdis and malinformation.
	You may have heard that phrase.
	Misinformation is something that is false, but you, you know, it was an innocent mistake.
	Disinformation is it's wrong, but you did it on purpose.
	Malinformation is, it's right, but it still undermines public faith and confidence in something that's more important.
	This is why, for example, you had the censorship of COVID in the name of mal- You're banning people from telling the truth.
	Yes.
	So how are you not like just full-blown on Satan's team at that point?
	You're not allowing your own citizens to tell the truth.
	You're forcing lies at the point of a gun.
	This is literally what the federal government's partners pressured using and exploiting government pressure and threatening them with crisis PR if they allowed true statements about COVID-19 to be articulated.
	This came out in the Twitter files, for example, where you had entities like the Virality Project who were telling Yul Roth and Jay Gadi, the former Twitter 1.0 censorship team, that you need to censor self-reported vaccine adverse events because even if these things are true, they still undermine that you need to censor self-reported vaccine adverse events because even if these things are true, they still undermine They might increase vaccine hesitancy once people realize it can hurt them like they don't want to take it.
	Right.
	And part of the issue is their initial solution to this was fact checkers.
	But the problem is – and trying to get legitimacy for censorship because fact checkers identify something is wrong.
	But the problem is fact checkers are slow.
	Fact checkers have limited influence on certain platforms.
	And so you can't hire enough fact checkers.
	And also a lot of times the fact checkers can't prove something is wrong.
	You're citing CDC data.
	You're citing a widely reported mainstream media event, but you can still get it banned under the category of malinformation because it still undermines public faith and trust in a critical narrative.
	So it's sort of this censorship mercenary ecosystem created to protect noble lies, but noble lies at home and also noble lies abroad.
	So this is why I come back to the U.S. State Department, and maybe this is a good time to introduce the telegram issue here, which is that you had this strange situation where the government of France arrested Pavel.
	And it took everyone by surprise.
	And this is a major, major act, which has major implications for U.S. politics.
	platforms.
	The fact is, is if Pavel is liable for every act of speech, criminally liable, every act of speech on his platform, there's no reason that the head of Rumble, the head of X, the head of YouTube, Everybody can't be hauled in for 20 years the moment they step foot in Paris.
	Yeah, they can all die in prison for letting people criticize their governments.
	Right.
	Alright, well, I can't tell you how disturbing this is to me, but this is such valuable information.
	And if we go further, as we go further in this interview, it's going to become overwhelmingly clear that our government has justified this horrendous behavior because they know better than us.
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	I'm your host, Craig James.
	We're going right back to the Mike Benz, Tucker Carlson interview.
	I cannot stress the importance of everything, all the information in here.
	Let's listen.
	It is a major diplomatic event.
	It impacts U.S.
	national champions.
	It impacts U.S.
	citizens.
	The U.S.
	Embassy in France, its job, the only reason it's there is to protect U.S.
	national interests, U.S.
	citizens, and U.S.
	corporations from hostile foreign laws in France, hostile foreign actions by France.
	And given how critical Telegram is to the U.S.
	militarily, to the U.S.
	on statecraft grounds, to the U.S.
	on intelligence grounds, again, As we speak, in dozens of countries, Telegram is the main artery of the CIA for cultivating political resistance movements.
	And so the impact on the United States is absolutely massive of doing this.
	And again, as we discussed, the United States has funded Ukraine with about almost $300 billion.
	And Ukraine's military intelligence chiefs say that they need to get control over Telegram's back end to know whether or not the Russians are in control of it, and to get control essentially over its front end content moderation policies to ban Russian propaganda channels.
	Now, mind you, this comes just two weeks after the FBI raided the homes of Scott Ritter and other journalists simply for appearing on Russia Today.
	He had his hard drive seized, his phone seized.
	Other people had the paintings in their own houses seized by the FBI.
	Not arrested, by the way.
	No charges against them.
	Simply for appearing on a Russian propaganda channel, a Russian state TV channel.
	So these are American citizens living in America who simply appeared on a channel from Russia that had their homes raided, their electronics seized, and even their paintings in their own homes seized if they thought a Russian painter may have painted the picture here in the United States just two weeks ago.
	How is that legal?
	Well, technically they're not facing charges, but the idea was, is because they have overt ties to a Russian propaganda outlet, they may have covert ties, and so the FBI now basically, you know, has them in the spiderweb.
	But understand, this is what the U.S.
	Honestly, it makes me want to go on RT every single day of the year.
	Just to make the point, not because I, for any other reason than to make the point I'm an American citizen.
	I can have any political opinion I want and I can speak to anyone I want.
	But does anyone, any other media outlet see this as kind of the end of America when people are raided by the FBI for having political opinions?
	Well it's funny you say that because I've...
	This is really what started my own journey, which was that I'm not a foreign policy zealot.
	If the gun were taken off of my head and an apology and restitution made for the destruction of the free and open internet, I might consider whether or not it is in U.S.
	interests to fund the war in Ukraine, to pursue the seizure of Asia, to do these things.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I see the arguments on both sides of it.
	But the problem is, The fact that they have destroyed so many lives, the fact that so much pursuing this in my own free speech rights has cost me so much, I have the same response that you do, which is that, well because you told me that I can't talk about this, I will not stop talking about this until the internet is free.
	They broke into my private text account The NSA did to keep me from talking to Putin, and then I just said, I don't care what it takes.
	I'm going to Moscow to see Putin.
	It took me two years.
	But they really hardened my resolve beyond, like, any point of reason.
	Like, I was going, period.
	And I think that's the healthy response.
	I'm an American citizen.
	I was born here.
	You cannot, you are not allowed, it's illegal for you to trample my God-given speech rights.
	Alright, so we're taking a break.
	We'll come right back.
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	I'm your host Craig James and we are listening to an interview, a very consequential one, between Tucker Carlson and a very intelligent person who worked in the deep state to a degree.
	at least as far as understanding it, Mike Benz.
	And he's explaining the censorship industrial complex and how it relates directly to our international diplomacy and policy, our foreign policy and what that is, why it's bringing it back home.
	And essentially what we've learned at this point is that the government is fully sanctioning the destruction of free speech in the First Amendment to protect its interests abroad and its political interests domestically.
	That's how they've justified it all and he's explaining the way they justify it.
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	Okay, now, let's go right back to this interview because I cannot stress how important the information that is here is for everything that we are trying to understand.
	Like, how do we get a government that's so flagrantly corrupt and going outside the Constitution?
	Behind closed doors, their doctrine, their charter, it dictates that they must take our rights away, they must censor us, in order to preserve their own power, to preserve the global stranglehold that America has on certain things.
	So this is just, you know, I can't describe how important it is, but let's listen.
	This is the actual crux of our counterinsurgency paradox, which is that, you know, we have two things that we do for political control in a region.
	One of them is counterterrorism.
	The military sets in on a country if we say there's terrorists there, but if there's no counterterrorism, we still have a doctrine called counterinsurgency, which is managing the rise of opposition political parties in a country and using potentially sometimes kinetic or hard power which is managing the rise of opposition political parties in a country and using Kinect meaning violence.
	Yes, yes.
	And, you know, the problem with counterinsurgency doctrine is...
	A critical component of the country does not believe the government, the U.S. installed government is legitimate.
	So they are organizing a political movement to rise to power instead.
	We call that a political insurgency.
	And the issue is we want to get them stabilized.
	We want to make them have nothing and be happy.
	When people have grievances, this is what gives rise to this whole insurgent problem.
	But the problem is in counterinsurgency is in order to get.
	legitimacy in the government, you need to take out the insurgents.
	But every time you take out an insurgent, you create 10 new ones because all the bystanders who didn't have a dog in the fight, who maybe believed what the U.S. government propaganda was saying, just saw their cousin get taken out at the wedding and said, you know, so this is the problem.
	But this is also where the whole of society framework comes from.
	The whole society framework comes from coin.
	It comes from counterintelligence.
	We have a doctrine, you know, within counterinsurgency called whole of government, whole of society, which means every agency within the U.S. government and then every institution in society.
	And coming back to this watchword institution, because this is the watchword of censorspeak.
	This is we have propping up our institutions and censoring anyone who opposes the consensus of institutions, but but this whole society framework is how you stop the counterinsurgency which is that you take one out, 10 new, you know, you create 10 new ones.
	If the pressure is coming not just from the U.S. military, it's coming from how you get a job in the country.
	So we onboard the private sector companies.
	They'll work, you know, either through formal partnerships with the State Department or Pentagon, or they'll be funded, or it'll be informal, or it'll be back-channeled through something like, you know, the Center for International Private Enterprise, which is the Chamber of Commerce, Armored, the National Endowment for Democracy.
	And so we get the private sector companies, we get the universities, the NGOs, the activists, we get all the cultural figures involved in the counterinsurgency effort, and we get the media involved in it.
	This is where the censorship architecture was...
	What they agreed on, they literally borrowed it from the military doctrine for, you know, to solve this, exactly this physiological response that you're articulating right now.
	But getting back to this, you know, this issue around the State Department and Telegram.
	It is my contention that there's no way the French government would have done something so absolutely seismic in terms of its implications for the U.S.
	military, for U.S.
	intelligence, and the U.S.
	State Department without walking next door down the Champs-Élysées and telling the U.S.
	Embassy in France that they were going to do this.
	They had an ongoing investigation, criminal investigation, into Pavel.
	Before this event took place, Macron even tweeted that this is part of an ongoing investigation.
	It is stock common practice for the U.S.
	Embassy, as we discussed in the Czech Republic and Poland, it is stock common practice for the U.S.
	Embassy in a region to coordinate, to be notified, To be essentially a stakeholder in that country's conversations about whether or not prosecutions in the name of anti-corruption, in the name of anything, will be done.
	Because the State Department effectively has a soft veto power.
	I mean, you can remember getting back to prosecutions and control of the prosecutors.
	This was a major scandal with Joe Biden.
	Joe Biden personally threatened the government of Ukraine.
	He said this at a Council on Foreign Relations Committee meeting, if folks recall.
	A billion dollars.
	Either you get rid of your prosecutor or You lose a billion dollars in critical U.S.
	aid to the region, and by golly, they fired the prosecutor.
	Control over the prosecutors is control over the politics.
	So the U.S.
	Embassy in the region is constantly back-channeling with the prosecutors.
	The idea that this event, which is exactly what the State Department has been soft calling for, for months now, since, you know, at least months I should note, if not arguably a few years, That this miraculous windfall because they don't have leverage against Pavel otherwise.
	And he's living in the UAE and they don't have the attack surface on Telegram that they had on WhatsApp.
	They had this problem with WhatsApp a few years ago because WhatsApp is the other, you know, major end-to-end encrypted chat.
	There's only two games in town in the encrypted chat space, WhatsApp and Telegram.
	And I watched this happen with the Brazil story.
	The U.S.
	State Department, again, capacity built by essentially bribing through tens of billions of dollars of flooded foreign assistance to all the censorship advocates in Brazil.
	This plan to stop the use of WhatsApp and Telegram by Bolsonaro supporters in Brazil and in Modi supporters in India, places like the Atlantic Council, which has seven CIA directors on its board, gets annual funding every single year from the U.S.
	State Department, all four branches of the U.S.
	military, as well as CIA cutouts like the National Endowment for Democracy.
	They held a conference in the summer of 2019 about the need to stop the use of WhatsApp and Telegram in countries around the world, especially Brazil and India.
	Because we can't spy on them as effectively?
	Because the State Department had already gotten social media censored in those countries.
	Bolsonaro supporters were effectively booted from Twitter 1.0, Facebook, and YouTube after 2016.
	There was said to be this international movement of ideas between pro-Trump and pro-Bolsonaro.
	So they all, after the State Department set up this apparatus that got them censored from social media, they all ran to WhatsApp and Telegram.
	So the State Department sort of created this encrypted chat problem.
	They could only talk in an uncensored way because the State Department already censored their other main communication artery.
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	The information here is very valuable.
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	Great.
	And so, WhatsApp and Telegram were put in the crosshairs of this USAID program to kill, you know, USAID State Department program to kill political support for Bolsonaro.
	And WhatsApp bent the knee within two and a half weeks because WhatsApp is very vulnerable.
	It is owned by Facebook.
	And Facebook is a major, major surface attack area for WhatsApp.
	If you recall, Jim Jordan subpoenaed these emails from Facebook a few months ago, the Facebook files.
	And in the Facebook files, it came out that Nick Clegg, the head of public policy, the head of the censorship terms of service at Facebook, did not want to cooperate with the Biden administration's demands to censor COVID, but urged his team to do so anyway because we have bigger fish to fry with the Biden administration.
	So we need to think creatively about ways to be receptive to their censorship demands.
	Because Facebook is totally dependent on the U.S.
	State Department, the intelligence services, and to some extent the long-range threat of the Pentagon to protect Facebook's data monopolies to protect its advertising revenue, to protect it from laws like the EU Digital Markets Act and Digital Services Act.
	This has come out as well.
	I was at the State Department when I was called by nine Google lobbyists who told me that the number one threat to Google's business model over the next five years is the EU Digital Markets Act and Digital Services Act.
	They need the protection of Big Daddy State Department for favors for their profits.
	And so they play ball with the State Department's censorship demands in order to preserve that.
	But they are under the barrel of it.
	And people like Mark Zuckerberg right now are feeling like they're at their wits end because they gave the State Department and they gave the Biden administration everything they asked for in terms of censorship demands, and they're still being bullied by them.
	So just yesterday, Mark Zuckerberg wrote this letter to Chairman Jim Jordan, where he came out in the strongest statement yet that the Biden administration forced Facebook effectively to do the censorship, that they pressured them strongly, and that the only reason they did these censorship that they pressured them strongly, and that the only reason they did these censorship actions, whether that was the Hunter Biden laptop or whether that was the COVID censorship, censoring COVID origins, censoring all issues around the COVID regime, was because
	censoring all issues around the COVID regime was because of pressure from the Biden administration.
	And not only that, he said that...
	He regretted doing it and now has structures in place to stop Facebook from relenting from such government pressure in the first place.
	And while this is great to hear Zuckerberg say, it would have been a lot more useful four months ago when there was a Supreme Court case under deliberation where the Supreme Court effectively argued that there was an insufficient causal relationship between government pressure and platform censorship action.
	So having a direct letter from Mark Zuckerberg unequivocally saying that there was as the head of Facebook would have been very useful to establish a Supreme Court precedent, believing that aside and the sort of too little too late nature of that, this is something that believing that aside and the sort of too little too late nature of that, this is Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg said that he regretted the censorship actions five months ago on Joe Rogan.
	So it's no surprise that Zuckerberg expressed that in writing.
	writing, but the fact that he would do it to the Republican chairman of the House Weaponization Committee and the fact that he said he's no longer supporting Democrats in this election cycle signals to me that he fears the blob now and feels like the Harris administration's but the fact that he would do it to the Republican chairman of the House Weaponization Committee and the fact that he said he's no longer supporting Democrats in this election cycle signals to me that he fears the blob now and feels like the Harris administration's continuity of the Biden administration's pressure policy, so there's no amount of flesh that he can give up as a pound to satiate their bloodlust and that he's turning if not towards Trump, then
	He's not doing what Elon is doing by voicing explicit support.
	He's not providing financial support, but he is very strongly motioning there because I think he thinks that the neutrality of a Trump administration because Trump was neutral.
	Trump was completely neutral, frankly, to the point where he should not have been.
	I mean, you had American platforms who were censoring the American people who had voted for that government and, you know, blasting away at our First Amendment in doing so.
	You know, the fact is, is all of the government, you know, how can you protect government?
	How can the government protect platforms that are censoring the speech of Americans?
	This would be like the State Department, you know, supporting ExxonMobil and overthrowing governments to get oil and gas for ExxonMobil, while ExxonMobil was cutting half of Americans off at the pipe, you know, at the pump at a gas station if they voted for, you know, Eisenhower.
	I mean, this is – it's such an abuse – It's honestly the end of this sort of idea that this favors or favors relationship between big government and big big corporations has a trickle-down effect to help the welfare of the American people.
	This has always been the justification for the national champion policy at the State Department that when the big when big government when the Pentagon and State Department CIA and USAID and the whole swarm of soft power institutions do favors for Exxon Mobil Or Microsoft or Walmart or Pepsi, then that means cheaper retail products for us.
	We have the export markets because we control that government.
	We have the natural resources, so we have cheap gas, middle class living.
	But this has completely inverted that because it's big government teaming up with big corporations specifically to deprive Americans of access to those platforms.
	But again, it's to protect the institutions against the individuals.
	It's to protect this You know, this constellation of cloistered foreign policy institutions and their international agenda installed at a regional level on every plot of dirt on earth from being opposed by people who might vote against them organically in a free and open information market.
	What happens to Pavel Durov?
	It's unclear what kind of pressure may be mounted to set him free.
	There have been suggestions that potentially the UAE may take some steps, unconfirmed.
	The one player in the room who could exert enough pressure to set Pavel free is unfortunately, potentially one of the players who may be implicated in his arrest in the first place.
	And again, this comes back to the U.S. Embassy in France, which is why I believe that questions need to be asked by the House Foreign Affairs Committee to Ambassador Denise Bauer.
	Were there previous communications, previous emails, previous meetings, previous dialogue with French intelligence, French law enforcement, or members of the French government?
	And when I say were there meetings or communications or dialogue, I don't just mean directly by the U.S. Embassy.
	Embassy, I also mean through the U.S.
	Embassy's back channels, which is that many times this is done directly by the U.S.
	Embassy, but many times it's done by a back channel, which is that instead of the U.S.
	Embassy talking with French law enforcement directly, a back channel, someone from a civil society institution funded by the State Department, like an Atlantic Council-type organization, or a, you know, A former member of the State Department has these conversations, does this lobbying, does this coordination, and then reports to the State Department for updates on the conversations about the anti-corruption prosecution.
	And the State Department provides guidance to the back channel, and the back channel continues the negotiations of pressure.
	And so the sweep has to be total here because the implications of the U.S.
	Embassy Either coordinating or at the very least approving this are seismic because again of Telegram's critical military intelligence role in countering Russia and statecraft role in everything that the State Department does.
	Because, again, if Russia does have a back-end access to Telegram, whether they cracked it through their cyber hackers or whether Pavel had some secret agreement, that means every rent-a-riot revolution that the CIA does using Telegram all over the world is also being secretly monitored by the Russians. that means every rent-a-riot revolution that the CIA does using And maybe that's why it was unsuccessful in Belarus.
	Maybe that's why it was unsuccessful with Alexei Navalny in Russia.
	And they do make points about the fact that the Russian military uses it freely.
	Over half of Russia uses it.
	And they point to questions around the funding in order to make that argument.
	So you do have these U.S. inquiries.
	interests, but you also have French interests.
	Do they have evidence?
	I mean, the U.S.
	funded the creation of Signal.
	It doesn't mean... right?
	And tons of people use Signal.
	Right.
	Do they have evidence of this?
	I mean, Pavel Durov left Russia in 2014.
	In his account, and I think this is true, he felt like he had to leave.
	He didn't want to leave.
	He's Russian.
	Right.
	But the Putin administration was trying to control Telegram and he famously gave the finger to Putin on camera and left and took citizenship in other countries.
	So, like, do they...
	As someone who's been accused of being a Russian asset a million times when I don't speak Russian, and of course I'm not even that interested in Russia, I'm sensitive to that slander.
	And I just want to know, like, do they have actual evidence that Putin has a backdoor to Telegram?
	It sounds like a lie to me, but... Well, they argue there would be no other reason for the Russian military to use it, you know, in such an unfettered fashion for, you know, official Russian military documents to, you know, to...
	Advocate the use of telegram of course there would be another reason which is it's secure Right they well if you read CIA media on this again be a pointing to what?
	Radio Free Europe Wrote two weeks after your interview with Pavel.
	It was that things may have well telegram for Europe is disgusting Let me just say I haven't grown up around it.
	I'm just shocked by what it's become.
	It's disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves and Well, Radio for Europe was lauding Telegram from 2014 to 2020.
	What they argue is that something may have changed beginning in 2021 with a new round of funding.
	I believe a debt round, you know, a large dollar figure debt round that was raised.
	And they argue that there may have been Russian investors in that.
	And so there may have been some payoff.
	And so because of that, Russia only stopped because for two years they were pursuing banning Telegram from Russia.
	But then they stopped it.
	And at the time, that was considered a major free speech victory by the United States and by the State Department.
	They applauded the NGO pressure on Russia and the threat of sanctions on Russia for if they went ahead and banned Telegram.
	But the fact that they relented and then ubiquitously used telegram.
	Actually, telegram usage in Russia massively surged after the ban.
	There's only about 10% of Russians who used it before the ban, and now it's over 50%.
	And so they argue between the funding, between the fact that they're losing in all these places where they use telegram now, that Russia may be keen to it, and the fact that the attempted ban was dropped and then a massive surge in usage afterwards can only mean that Russia began and the fact that the attempted ban was dropped and then a massive surge in usage afterwards can only mean
	So in other words, Ukraine is losing a land war against a country with 100 million more people because Pavel Durov has some secret arrangement I mean, this is the kind of fantastical, childish thinking that makes empires fall, actually.
	I mean, the total inability to deal with reality, to assess your own shortcomings, to be honest about anything as it pertains to yourself, to be honest about yourself and how much you suck.
	Those are fatal weaknesses in people and in countries, and I grieve to see the U.S.
	government fall into that kind of self-indulgent fantasy.
	Right, but think about the amazing windfall that just befell the CIA.
	They've had no leverage against Pavel.
	This entire time, and yet the entire Russian military architecture is built on Telegram.
	All high-level Russian military and political officials, the internal workings of Russian statecraft and deliberations, all happen on Telegram.
	And there has been no window into that because of Pavel's belief in free speech.
	So now, if Pavel cracks under interrogation, if he cracks under pressure, suddenly all communications of all Russian citizens and all Russian military officials and all Russian diplomats That we're taking place on telegram for the past five years are now in the hands of the CIA.
	So this is in a... Why don't we just torture him to death?
	I mean like what why not just like just drop the pretense and just like we're North Korea now um with slightly better infrastructure just slightly um and like stop pretending because that's what this is.
	They're like torturing a man Um, and in the process, stripping us of our God-given speech rights and our right to privacy that they're always crowing about, but only when it pertains to abortion.
	I mean, this is so immoral.
	what we're participating in.
	Does anybody, does like even occur to all the creeps on the internet, the Atlantic Council, Alexander Vindman, all the people who think this is great, does it occur to them that like they're no better than North Korea in this situation?
	Well, I think from the Ukrainian perspective, they say our people are dying, we're being massacred by the Russians, and so free speech has to be a casualty of this war.
	And, And religious freedom, and the Russian Orthodox Church, and the freedom of priests to celebrate the Eucharist.
	They're in jail now.
	Do you think anyone in Ukraine looks over to Washington and says, you know, you promised us this was a good idea.
	They've lost at least 600,000 Ukrainians.
	They've lost the right to their land.
	Their land can now be bought by foreign corporations.
	They just made that change and it will be.
	And like all of that is because they follow the advice of Washington.
	Do you think they think that?
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	I'm telling you, the information that is being given to us in this interview is of the utmost importance to understanding all of the justifications our government's using right now to censor us, to take away our rights, and what they have planned, and how they will unleash it on us.
	So let's go right back to Mike Benz and Tucker Carlson.
	Well it doesn't matter what the people of Ukraine think.
	They're not allowed to have elections.
	You're right!
	They can't vote their way out of it.
	There's no elections.
	And mind you, everyone listening right now can look up something called the Red Lines Memo from the Ukraine Crisis Media group.
	Which is basically a conglomerate of all these US-funded NGOs and civil society institutions in Ukraine.
	And they sent the so-called Red Lines memo to Zelensky when he took office.
	And they threatened Zelensky in that letter that if he took any of the below actions on security policy, on energy policy, on media policy, on cultural policy,
	Seven or eight different buckets of internal policies that Zelensky might pursue, that if he crossed any of the red lines in terms of restoring use of the Russian language on Ukrainian TV or, you know, interfering with the privatization of NAFTA gas and things like this, that if he crossed any of the red lines of the policy issues articulated by this US You know, this U.S.
	NGO, which is an umbrella for all these other State Department NGOs, that Ukraine would face immediate political destabilization if any of those policies were enacted.
	Basically, the same rent-a-riots that were deployed by the U.S.
	State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency, and to some extent the Pentagon in the 2014 Maidan protests, would be redeployed against Zelensky.
	if he decided to chart an independent course for the Ukrainian people, that he would be run out of office the same way, you know, his predecessor Yanukovych was by the same forces, if he did something that was in the will of the Ukrainian people, but opposed the U.S. State Department.
	This is so grotesque.
	I just want to pause now and ask you, anyone who's followed this conversation to this point, finds it probably as compelling as I do, So for people who want, I never do this, but in your case it's, I want people to read what you write, where's the best place to Follow you much more closely than just your appearances here on X at Mike Ben cyber all one word at Mike Ben cyber You know, I'm prolific.
	I I believe in this I understand what is you know, probably gonna happen to me at some point, but I again I'm my My dog in this fight is not Changing U.S.
	foreign policy to change U.S.
	foreign policy.
	Let others decide what to do in Ukraine, what to do all over the world.
	I did not, I could, I can understand both sides of the issue.
	I can understand the sort of anti-imperialist, these are human rights violations, you know, we should not be toppling democratically elected governments.
	I can also understand that it's a big bad world out there, and if we don't do it, somebody else will, and we need capacities in place to do that.
	It's a complicated issue.
	The problem is, is we don't have a democracy when our entire political structure is about hearts and minds of the people.
	That's what democracy is.
	Hearts and minds of the people are determined by the information ecosystem, freedom of speech.
	And so if you don't have the freedom of speech to be able to influence hearts and minds, and the hearts and minds to be able to give rise to a free and fair election, Well then, you don't have a democracy.
	You have a military junta, effectively.
	And it's the point that you made before, that the legitimacy all falls out.
	And so, all I care about is free speech on the internet.
	Well, it sounds like what you care about is America.
	You care about the country that you live in.
	Yes, right.
	And to that point, I want to make another sort of note here, which is that I'm not coming out making a facial allegation that the United States was the driving force behind Pavel's arrest.
	I believe that it is highly unlikely that they were not coordinating or encouraging it, and I believe that at the very least there was approval.
	And approval is a sort of light standard that's a little bit less damning because all it means is that the U.S.
	was notified but did not apply counter-pressure.
	Well sure, but I mean you could also say, and I would say, having seen it a million times in my long life, when a foreign country, particularly an ally like France, does something we disagree with, we can issue a note of protest.
	The State Department could say we, you know, we disapprove of that, we support human rights, including the right to speech and the right to privacy, etc, etc, and we didn't do that.
	Right.
	No, we can threaten to cut off aid, we can threaten to cut off contracts to French companies, Or just publicly disapprove!
	I mean, France is an ally!
	If the President just got out, or Tony Blinken, or the U.S.
	Ambassador to France, and just said, we're against this, that would be a lot.
	And everyone right now, go to the Twitter page of the U.S.
	Ambassador to France on X. There's no public statements about it.
	There's been no statement by the State Department, no statement by the U.S.
	Embassy in France.
	When an American citizen called Gonzalo Lira was killed by the Ukrainian government, he died in prison for criticizing the Ukrainian government, a government that we support and control in the name of democracy and freedom, the U.S.
	State Department said nothing.
	Right.
	The Biden administration said nothing.
	They approved.
	Of course.
	But again, they're behind this in so many cases that it seems highly unlikely, especially given how amazing a windfall this is to the United States foreign policy establishment on this.
	But there's sort of two related points I want to make about France here, which is that France does have its own independent reasons for doing this, which is that France's whole financial empire is dependent on Africa.
	They have – France still has a sort of semi-colonial empire, 14 countries in Africa who basically use French currency in our – Senegal, Cote d'Ivoire, West Africa mostly.
	Yes, and France also derives the lion's share of its own energy resources.
	And they have had a big problem in the past few years.
	So the famous French nuclear program, nuclear energy program, which is I think the biggest in the world.
	Yes, 75 percent of France's energy comes from nuclear.
	And that comes from Niger.
	That comes from a French-speaking African country, the uranium.
	Exactly, exactly.
	So three out of every four light bulbs in France are turned on by the uranium effectively in Niger and a few other places.
	And the French lost control of Niger to Russia just last year.
	You know, there was a military coup, as there was in Mali and several other places, where it was a military coup, if not orchestrated, backstopped by the Russian military.
	In these countries, one after another, you've had four or five French colonies effectively fall to Russian military activity in Africa.
	And so they've lost control over their – in Niger, for example, they had to close down their embassy.
	All the French troops that had their largest presence in Africa were all evicted.
	They lost all of the soft power influence over these countries.
	And in these countries, the Africans are burning French flags and raising Russian flags.
	In fact, many of these African countries are now cutting off diplomatic ties with Ukraine because of how close their affiliation with Russia is.
	Because of Russian military competence and activity in Africa, France is losing the ability to keep the lights on.
	And it should be noted, however, that Russia's doing this because, under Macron, France has been jumping up and down about the Ukraine war and pretending to be a meaningful part of NATO, which they are not, and just sort of pretending that they still have a meaningful empire.
	Anyone cares at all what they think, and they've annoyed Russia to the point where I think this is payback.
	Right, but the Russian military is built on Telegram.
	Everything they do.
	Now, it's not necessarily public Telegram channels, but the private version with the end-to-end encryption and the anonymous forwarding, the ability to aggregate everybody in a Russian private military contractor into a common Telegram channel.
	Only Telegram has that capacity.
	They can't post this on Facebook.
	They're not going to use Facebook-owned CIA-intermediated WhatsApp.
	All they have is Telegram for that.
	So if French intelligence is able to get Pavel to sing under questioning or interrogation or threats of spending the rest of his life in prison, France may be able to finally have a chance to retake the colonies that were lost to Russia.
	Okay, let me just say, though, I would much rather be monitored by the Russian military, by the Israelis, by any foreign government than I would by my own government because I live here.
	First of all, my government has no right, as I think a statutory matter, to monitor me.
	But also, the implications of being monitored by a foreign government, as an American, are not as big a deal as they are when I'm monitored by my government.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	No, absolutely.
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	We're going right back to Mike Benz and Tucker Carlson.
	Let's listen.
	Well, actually, there's a great point along this, which gets right to the France story and this intersection between U.S.
	and French interests.
	U.S.
	and French shared military intelligence and diplomatic and economic interests in arresting Pavel and finally getting the leverage they've craved for so long to be able to both control Telegram's content moderation practice, to ban all Russian propaganda channels which are infecting the minds of everyone from Ukraine to Belarus to you know, to sub-Saharan Africa, but also, you know, the ability to get this back-end access to, you know, to read every Russian text message effectively.
	There's a great example of this in terms of blowback on Americans.
	So we've talked about this group, the Atlanta Council, which bills itself as NATO's think tank.
	It is, again, a lot of people don't even know seven CIA directors are still alive, let alone all clustered together on the board of directors of a, you know, of a NATO think tank.
	But it gets annual funding from the Pentagon, the State Department, and CIA cutouts like the National Network of Democracy, as well as USAID.
	There are 11 different federal government agencies who all provide federal government funding every single year to what is effectively the civilian influence arm of NATO.
	Now, in March 2018, the Atlanta Council published a set of white papers called Democratic Defense Against Disinformation.
	And in the March 2018 version of it, the cover photo, again, this is funded by the United States Pentagon, United States State Department, United States Intelligence Service conduits.
	The front page of this memo called Democrat Defense Against Disinformation, which called for this whole society playbook about how the government could organize censorship from the civil society side, censorship from the private sector side, censorship advocacy in media organizations.
	The cover of the memo was a giant network narrative map of the French election, because at the time, WikiLeaks had published something called the Macron leaks, which were these sensitive, politically embarrassing emails involving Macron.
	When he was neck and neck in the race against Marine Le Pen in 2018.
	And the front page of it, you know, had in red all these narrative network maps of French citizens and Russians.
	But there were two big green network nodes that were highlighted at the front of the memo.
	And one of them was a big network node saying Wikileaks.
	The other one was a big network node saying Jack Posobiec.
	Just so you understand what's going on here.
	WikiLeaks had published these Macron leaks, and Jack Posobiec at the time was this large U.S.-based, U.S.-citizen social media influencer who was one of the first and most aggressive to popularize the distribution of these Macron leaks on social media.
	And that was considered an attack on democracy by, effectively, the Pentagon, the State Department, the CIA, NATO.
	They were not targeting Russians.
	They were not targeting French.
	They were targeting a U.S.
	citizen for amplifying now publicly available documents that might undermine political support for NATO's preferred political puppet in France.
	By telling the truth?
	By publishing true documents.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	So what I'm saying is there was no allegation it wasn't like the Hunter Biden laptop in the first weeks where this isn't real.
	No one contested the fact these were real.
	These were real.
	You just weren't allowed to see them because you can't know the truth because...
	U.S.
	citizen.
	This is a U.S.-funded institution.
	Gets millions of dollars every year.
	It has seven CIA directors on its board.
	The Army funds it.
	The Navy funds it.
	The Air Force funds it.
	The USAID funds it.
	The State Department.
	And in the crosshairs of the cover page of the memo is a U.S.
	citizen for doing what?
	That wasn't even a U.S.
	event.
	It was an American citizen publishing about a election in a galaxy far, far away.
	How much is it going to take if we colonize Mars and there's an election on Mars?
	Can the Central Intelligence Agency organize the censorship of an American citizen because the CIA's preferred puppet for the, you know, electoral race on Mars, you know, is being undermined because of a social media post from Someone living in rural Montana?
	There's no end to this.
	There isn't.
	It's been ongoing, you know, much longer than I realized.
	And I think that's part of the problem, is that people who consider themselves non-liberal or opponents of the Democratic Party, I've certainly considered myself that, were the slowest to figure out that the DOD, the Pentagon, the military, and the intel agencies, particularly the CIA, also law enforcement, FBI, DHS, That they were threats to the country and to us, and they reflexively supported them.
	And that's all a 49-year-old hangover from the church committee hearings in 1975, where it was like all the conservatives were like, oh, shut up!
	You're not patriotic.
	But actually, the left knew right away that what matters is the institutions that are armed.
	Guns matter.
	Guns matter more than anything.
	And so you want to have the armed institutions on your side and use them to oppress your political opponents and they did that and it took Republicans, well they still haven't figured it out.
	They're like, you know, checking the box on funding DOD to like, you know, more than any military in the history of the world to lose war after war for 80 years.
	And they don't understand that they're signing their own death warrant and the death warrant of American democracy.
	It's like freaking infuriating.
	It must drive you crazy as a former federal employee.
	Well, I mean, you nailed it there.
	What they are doing to populism is what they used to do to communism.
	If you remember what actually started the church committee hearings...
	What gave it the political legitimacy to finally have its day in Congress was the fact that the CIA and the Pentagon and the FBI were all interfering in domestic politics.
	Yes.
	And the Democrats to stop the anti-war faction.
	In a big way.
	Domestic political support for, you know, for anti-Vietnam is what was killing the funding legitimacy for the war in Vietnam and it was killing the political mandate and so We have this doctrine, the four theaters of war, the four domains of war.
	This is the U.S.
	Army doctrine, which is there's the strategic, the tactical, the logistical, and the political.
	Four ways you can win or lose a war.
	On the strategic side, it's the grand strategy of it.
	On the tactical side, it's, you know, who are you going to attack?
	How?
	When?
	The logistics is, how do you get the supplies there?
	How do you get the funding for it?
	And the political is, do you have political support at home to be able to fund the logistics?
	To be able to do these particular tactics?
	You know, if the war is not popular at home, you don't get the funding for all the logistics that you need.
	You don't get approval for certain tactics that would be deemed human rights violations or war crimes.
	And so you can, you know, The U.S.
	military establishment believes that we lost Vietnam, you know, this is famously called Vietnam Syndrome, because we lost in the political domain.
	This is why the U.S.
	State Department and the CIA fund anti-war movements domestically within countries that we go to war with.
	We pump up the anti-war voices in the country, the anti-war parliamentarians who might be in control of that country's budget, in order to undermine their own ability to capacity build the war.
	And this is what's happened here, you know, this was this George H.W.
	Bush quote, you know, by God, we kicked Vietnam syndrome when he brought CNN, you know, onto military airplanes to, you know, to propagandize how great the war was.
	And this is why the media has been so intensely onboarded in all Pentagon operations, you know, since Vietnam.
	And yet there's still... Alright, we're coming back.
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	When I was broken at the bottom, I found you're my healer and redeemer, Jesus.
	That's who you are.
	You brought me blessings out of a tragedy.
	You turned my old song into a symphony.
	And with your spirit living inside of me, I'm a new creation.
	I'm a new creation.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
	But it rose until I stumbled and made my mistakes.
	Then I could know in my soul how amazing was grace.
	Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
	So of course, you know, we played the most of the Tucker Carlson, Mike Benz interview here today.
	And there's about 30 minutes left.
	If you guys want to go catch it, you can follow me over on X slash Twitter.
	And my username is at Just informed the number one.
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	I posted this on my timeline.
	It is, in my humble opinion, like I said, one of the most consequential interviews I've ever seen that completely exposes nakedly the corruption in our government and how, like Mike Benz put it, in order in
	Instead of serving the American people, they serve the democratic quote-unquote institutions, and the institutions are what he describes as a blob, but it's really the deep state, all the NGOs, all the corporate interests, all of the large government bureaucracies.
	It's self-serving and self-protecting, and he explains in great detail how They justify it, the language they use to justify it, and why censorship has become so prevalent, because that is their new strategy.
	It's a strategy they've used against other countries, and now they've brought it home domestically, and just so much valuable information there.
	I cannot, I cannot stress enough how much there is there.
	But, you know, we end with a little scripture to leave you with some hope.
	Today's no different.
	We're in Psalm 119 still, verse 121 to 128, and it says this, I have done what is just and right.
	Do not leave me to my oppressors.
	Guarantee your servant's well-being.
	Do not let the arrogant oppress me.
	My eyes grow weary looking for your salvation and for your righteous promise.
	Deal with your servant based on your faithful love.
	Teach me your statutes.
	I am your servant.
	Give me understanding so that I may know your decrees.
	It is time for the Lord to act, for they have violated your instructions.
	Since I love your commands more than gold, even the purest gold, I carefully follow all your precepts and hate every false way.
	And again, you know, I don't plan these verses to co-align with any certain show.
	You know, we start on, we started in the book of Psalms and this is just where we landed today.
	But I do feel the serendipity of it all because as the verses say, we hate every false way as we follow God's precepts.
	And we know in our hearts that His decrees are true.
	And when you see the arrogant trying to oppress us, we have to trust in the Lord that He will deliver us.
	I mean, there's no other way I could get up every day and do this if I didn't have the hope of Christ in my heart.
	I would be a miserable, depressed, sad, lonely, pathetic man with no hope.
	And I know that because I've been there before where I didn't focus on Jesus first.
	I didn't put all my faith there.
	I had a relationship with God from a child, but there was a time where I wandered away.
	And in that time, it was one of the darkest times of my life.
	But when I came back, the light that shone through was so amazing, glorious.
	I was saved.
	By God's grace.

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