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July 12, 2023 - Just Informed Talk - Craig James
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Did Banking Cartels Sink The Titanic To Bring In The Federal Reserve Banking System? | JustInformed
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Thank you, though, Steve, for that.
Now, we have a lot to cover here today.
So, this all kind of spurred, and I'll kind of give the audience an explanation for how all this happened.
I covered a story, I believe it was last week, Uh, about the Titanic, maybe it was the week before, and we talked about this Titan submersible.
Now, this is like a big story in the news.
You have the Titan submersible, a company owned by, connected to the Rothschilds, believe it or not.
They had this submersible that went down to check out the wreckage of the Titanic.
It basically I guess exploded or imploded, I guess you would say, and a billionaire was on board, and there was this huge news story that went out across the country.
So I kind of started connecting some dots, you know, via some things I was seeing online, and basically it brought up some interesting questions about the Titanic.
So I'll start there, Steve, with the Titanic.
If the Titanic hit an iceberg and sank, Would that be like an anomalous thing?
Let's start with the background to April 12, 1912.
Let's talk about the background of what happened that night.
What's the official story?
Let's start there.
Well, you know the official story, of course, is that it hit the iceberg.
We have for a long time looked at the wreck itself in the forensics.
And the question is, friends, a lot of people have motives that they think, well, maybe this is the reason why somebody might want to destroy that ship.
We could get to that, but I think the most important thing, Craig, as we talked about is the forensics of what actually happened there.
And they've done a lot of research, and one of the reasons why they may not want people going down there anymore is because people are starting to discover things on the bottom that are very, well, let's put it this way, they're suspicious, including two huge hull plates that were blown out at the surface.
The ship The ship broke apart, as you know.
In the British inquiry, they said it didn't.
Then the passenger said, yes, it did.
There was an explosion under the waterline.
And eventually, and of course now, we know that the bow is in one location, the stern in another.
And about three-quarters of a mile from that location are two huge hull plates.
This is where I think the secret is, and I've been mounting this challenge all over the internet and To anybody who's a Titanic person, I don't have the kind of money to send ROVs down there, but I think we need to go down and look at those two plates.
It looks to me like they blew right out, Craig.
Yeah, and so, okay, so let's break this down.
So explain to the audience the plates, where they are found, why being two miles away is significant, and what this leads you to believe as far as forensically deconstructing what happened that night.
Yeah, right.
The two plates are not quite two miles, but they are three quarters of a mile, quite a ways away from the rest of the wreckage, and they're lying face up and face down.
You can see they're cut right through the keel in three places.
They're almost square, like they were cut out.
Now, they did have thermite in those days.
They used it for welding the Titanic.
The question is, why those two plates blew out so clean and separated at the surface?
You know, in the 100th anniversary of It looks to me like they blew the bottom of the ship.
James Cameron said, "What we have here is a crime scene.
Why is the knife over there and the gun over here?" You know, in other words, he didn't say metaphorically like.
He said, "We have a crime scene." I think James Cameron and a lot of these people know what really happened.
It looks to me like they blew the bottom out of the ship.
Now, here's the scenario.
There was a book called "The Wreck of the Titan" written by a fellow by the name of Morgan Robertson.
And it was about a ship the same size as the Titanic that wrecked in an ice flow.
Now, Captain Smith had 25 years on the North Atlantic.
He knew about these things.
There were messages going across the Marconi wireless systems all over.
Everybody knew this ice flow was out there.
Hold on, hold on.
Let's back up for a second.
You just put a big one out there because we have the Titan submersible that went down.
I'm not trying to make some big conspiracy theory, but Explain this story about the Titan that's from 1898, you said?
Yeah, the original big ship was called the Titan.
The record of the Titan, Futility, is the name of the book, and you can get it online.
It's an old book.
It was put out in 1898, 14 years before the Titanic, by a dime store novelist who wrote this story.
And what happened was that ship hit this ice flow.
The captain was an arrogant, very mean man in that story.
And the ship rolled over and then people were thrown off the top deck.
The only people who survived were the ones who were on the top deck because they were thrown into the ice, this ice flow, and they had to fight with a polar bear and the whole story.
You know, it kind of Hollywoodized it.
Essentially, this is what would have happened to the Titanic.
Most people don't know that they were headed into basically a brick wall of ice.
This extended almost about 110, 120 miles down from above the 42nd parallel down to about 41, 50.
And this is a, they were going to hit this ice, and the Californian knew it was there, the Metasaba knew it was there, the Carpathia.
All right, let's take this one at a time.
Okay, the Californian.
So this was a ship that was nearby when the Titanic did, in fact, sink.
And there is, let's talk about what about the Californian was significant, what doesn't line up.
There's an official story and then there's what people are saying actually happened.
What do you know about that?
Oh yeah, you know those lawsuits were still going on in the 90s.
James Cameron made no reference at all to the Californian in the Titanic, except for this one light through the wheelhouse window that you see.
That's the only reference to the Californian, because there were so many people asking, why didn't the Californian pay attention and respond to this disaster that was taking place just about five to seven miles away?
This is what the people who Like Boxall, who was, I think, the fourth mate, and Mike Tolerhood had both said it.
Even the people in the boats out there saw the ship.
They were trying to row toward it.
Then the lights went out and it disappeared.
Real interesting story.
International Merchant Marine was also owned by J.P.
Morgan, who owned White Star.
Now, J.P.
Morgan was supposed to be on my ship, but he was called away at the last minute.
Okay, so look, we're going to talk about J.P.
Morgan and how this is all connected.
We're going to talk about Jacob Astor.
We're going to talk about a lot of things.
So, I hope Steve's going to stick around.
We're going to be right back.
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We're breaking down the Titanic.
The story they probably don't want you to hear is what we're going to dive into, so you're going to want to stay tuned.
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Welcome back to Justformed Talk Radio.
I'm your host Craig James.
We're joined by Steve Starr right now.
Steve Starrs.
We're talking about the Titanic.
We're talking about the, there's an official story and then there's a story that they probably don't want you to know about.
So where we left off, we were talking about the Titanic.
The official story is obviously that it hit an iceberg and that that iceberg is what sank it.
But there are just some irregularities that Steve Starrs is helping us kind of go through here point by point.
He's got so much information that I'm going to keep trying to interrupt him here and pause him to dive into this stuff, because he knows the story so well.
But we've got to really take a second to make sure we explain each detail to the audience and make sure they get each point.
So we left off at the fact that the California Was connected to White Star Lines through JP Morgan?
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, International Merchant Marine was another very big trucking line.
Leland Line was actually the direct owner, but this was also owned by J.P. Morgan.
And you know the question that I have, Craig, I don't know whether Captain Lord knew what was going to happen, but I think he was sent out there in company orders.
You know, the whole situation, it almost looked like the Californian was a death escort, waiting to pick up possibly survivors, because it had left from Liverpool on the 5th.
You know, the Titanic left on the 10th, five days earlier, or later, that is.
And so what you have is that the Californian was nowhere as fast as the Titanic.
It could do 22, 23 knots.
California was only about 12, but why were they even out there in that area?
And the question is, why was the Titanic so close to this ice flow when they got so many messages?
I kind of explain it this way, like if you were a major airline and you had a captain who was going to fly a brand new jet across the ocean, a supersonic jet or a special jet for the first time, the first open flight, you know what I mean, to carry passengers, you had dignitaries and Movie stars and news people on it.
And then there was an alert that there was a plume of volcanic ash going at 50,000 feet from Iceland.
Well, you know, the captain on that plane being notified would say, I'm not going to get anywhere near that.
I am going to definitely fly away from that volcanic ash.
Let's go through the engines and tear them up and we plummet into the ocean.
You would obviously know you don't want to be there.
Why was the Titanic even close to this?
Now Marconi wireless operators were telling people all over about this ice floe at that point, even really before Titanic had left Southampton.
So the question is why they were even close to it in that area.
Even if the Titanic had a very strong hull and they were just going to rumble through some rough ice, that still would create a lot of what they call growlers.
These are big bowling ball pieces of ice that hit the hull and growl, you know, as they scrape along.
That would have kept the passengers up all night.
All they had to do, Craig, was alter their course by a few degrees to the south and they would have missed everything.
And yet they're headed right for this ice floe in the middle of the night.
Something is really wrong with this story right now.
Yeah, the official story, just, the more you break it down, the less it sounds like this makes any sense whatsoever.
I mean, you could talk about, there's a lot of ways you could explain away certain things, like, okay, well why would they hire a, you know, a captain who's not the best?
You know, there's nepotism, there's whatever, corruption, bureaucracy, etc.
But When you break it down in those terms, talking about, you know, it makes no sense for them to be up there, it makes no sense for them to want to go through that area, then it becomes very interesting.
But then, there's some interesting stuff that goes on post-syncing of the Titanic.
Right.
And we're going to kind of get into that.
So, briefly, in the movie Titanic, they actually have this scene, and I don't know if it was one of the deleted scenes or if it actually made the final cut, but it actually has several individuals Picture together there, some of which were John Jacob Astor IV, Benjamin Guggenheim, Isidore Strauss, and George Dunton Wyden.
A few others were on there.
These are like captains of industries, and there's a common thread amongst them.
But before we talk about that common thread, talk about Guggenheim, I know you had mentioned that he has a specific connection to Colorado.
Absolutely.
And let's start with Guggenheim.
Yeah, the Guggenheims were very big into mining, ladies and gentlemen.
Molly Brown knew them from up in Leadville.
And they actually bought out some gold mines.
They had a hostile takeover of one of the Rockefeller mining operations, so the Rockefellers didn't like the Guggenheims.
Simon Guggenheim was a senator from the state of Colorado at this time.
He started the School of Mines here.
Also a lot of engineering.
Here in Greeley, close to where I live, there's a Guggenheim Hall, a big Masonic-looking building.
Guggenheims, as you know, are very, very prominent people, and they were also into metals and mining.
Now, remember, metals and mining are a little bit of a conflict to paper money, okay?
And Benjamin Guggenheim was returning from all over the world, where he had been talking to other countries and companies about mining interests over there.
His brother, Simon, was a senator here in the state of Colorado at that time.
So the Guggenheims were very distinguished people from Colorado and all over the world by now.
As you know, they still do a lot of mining, a lot of mining interests.
They were one interest, of course.
Then you have other people that are kind of strange, like a fellow by the name of Archibald Butt, very colorful character, who was a naval liaison with the Roosevelt administration.
He had been visiting Rome.
He was on his way back.
There were a number of people that they may have wanted to get rid of at that time.
John Jacob Astor in particular.
Most people don't know this, but when the Titanic sunk, J.P.
Morgan felt so bad for the Astor family, he said, listen, I'll take care of all your finances.
I'll just control them and give you your portion.
So he basically assumed control of the entire John Jacob Astor.
Talk about John Jacob Astor.
Who was he?
Well, you know, John Jacob Astor was really big into real estate.
He was not in favor of the Federal Reserve.
He was, at that time, considered probably the richest man in the world.
He also was involved in, he was kind of an inventor.
He was coming back to possibly work with Tesla, even though he and Tesla had a falling out.
Now, J.P.
Morgan, Quit funding Tesla's Wardenclyffe experiment in New York because Tesla wanted to provide free energy with this system.
And Morgan thought, I can't put a meter on this and charge anybody.
I don't want to do anything, have anything to do with it.
So now Astor is coming back.
And by the way, Tesla did live in the Astora Hotel there all the way to the end.
So they were, you know, Astor and Tesla were not on really great terms, but it was very likely they would get together and Tesla would be funded now again by John Jacob Astor if he got back.
Okay, okay.
We're hitting so many threads here.
This is like really good.
So let's try to narrow it down to a few different things and kind of bring it back to the Titanic.
I wanted to get a little background on those guys though because you have to understand, he kind of let the cat out of the bag on it talking about the Federal Reserve.
We're going to talk about that in a minute, but let's go back to the Titanic, alright?
Let's get back on the boat.
Let's talk about how and, like, so before we get into why they would take down the Titanic, let's talk about how it would have been done.
You talked about, to me briefly, we had some communications, you know, that they're plowing this ship into an ice flow, right?
Right.
A lot of the passengers disembarking on the lifeboats said they heard an explosion.
Right.
And remember, you know, the gauge of steel that they used, folks listening out there, the gauge of steel they used on the Titanic hull was actually within the capacity to be considered the level necessary to be an icebreaker.
Right.
The idea, now again, it was on the lower side of the spectrum for what would be necessarily considered icebreaker standard.
I think icebreaker gauge steel is somewhere between 24 and 75 millimeters.
I believe the Titanic hull was about 25 millimeters, but it was still there.
It was at the level at which it needed to be to be considered able to break through these ice flows.
And, you know, you're not talking about going up to the North Pole and going through the North Arctic Ocean through a heavy ice flow.
You're talking about flows you're going to see.
You say this is a big wall of ice, but it is a little bit south of where you'd see some of the really heavy stuff.
So let's talk about the people disembarking, what they heard, and then maybe talk about the CEO of White Star, who happened to be Bruce Ismay.
Bruce Ismay.
Let's talk about all that.
Yeah, the people getting off the ships, actually, at first, a lot of people didn't want to get onto those light boats, be lowered down 70 feet in the dark North Atlantic in this cold water.
there.
But a number of survivors have survived and of course the stories are, you can still hear a lot of them up there.
Boxall and Lightoller, for example, and also a number of the passengers.
But they said, yes, there was an explosion under the water level.
That's when the Titanic began to break apart.
Now James Cameron, depicted the decline of the bow and the rise of the stern by 29 degrees in his film ideology.
But his engineer said, no, it never got up that high.
It was only about 19 degrees.
This made Cameron crazy.
He said, now, wait a minute, because my whole idea was that the ship broke in half because of stress.
And now you're saying the bow wasn't that far out of the water.
Yeah, the props or the screws cleared the water.
You could see them from the backside.
But it wasn't this huge incline.
The Titanic was slowly leaking.
And it was actually the buoyancy of the heavy weight behind in the being lifted out was actually balancing it a little bit to keep it from going down faster.
So the ship wasn't under the kind of pressure that Cameron claimed it was, or depicted that it was.
It broke in half.
What actually happened was that this explosion that took place under the water level, which we now know the proof of, those two huge double bottom plates cut out like squares.
Friends and they're lying about three-quarters of a mile from the rest of wreckage blew out of the bottom and you know if you go to justinformednews.com and I think Craig's got some visuals I don't know if he'll put them up I hate to put pressure on him because he's got so much going on but he puts up a lot of visuals on his website his website is really where you need to see some of this stuff we may have the pictures up there and some of those things will show you the reconstruction that the History Channel did
The last two pieces to go into the ship are those two bottom plates.
Now that's where we need to investigate what happened to those plates.
How did they get blown out?
Why are they so square?
They measure about 92 feet across the ship from port to starboard and each about 26 feet in ship's length and they're virtually cut out square.
In some places The keel looks like it was cut out with a razor sharp blade.
I mean, there are places where it's a little torn, but most of these things look almost virtually square.
How did these two square plates come apart out of the bottom of the ship to start the breakup?
Well, remember, I mean, and I hate to interrupt you, but I mean, like, remember, this is the unsinkable Titanic, right?
Right.
So they told us this was unsinkable, and I have the answer kind of how this happened.
The official narrative right here in front of me, Steve, if you're interested.
And yeah, you know, the visuals that you sent aren't going to translate well on radio, but I always, if I do post this conversation later on my channel, I will include links In the description to everything that we talk about, so that will include the links you sent me, which are interesting and they have some cool graphics and maps and just kind of explains a lot of that.
But here's the official story.
2017, January 5th, Danny Lewis on Smithsonian Magazine writes this.
Headline, a coal fire may have helped sink the Titanic Apparently a new documentary claims the Titanic's hull was weakened before it struck an iceberg.
So, Steve, this is the story that they put in place, what, six years ago?
Yeah.
To explain away what you're saying as an abnormality of this whole situation.
So what I believe in my personal research over the years, and what I've found, is that what they'll do is they'll always get ahead of a story by planting the seed for, you know, reasonable doubt, right?
Right.
Plausible deniability.
They'll say, well, you know, we thought the Titanic was sunk from an iceberg, but really there was a fire that it's like, remember 9-11, where they told us that, you know, two planes took down three towers in New York two planes took down three towers in New York City.
Remember that?
They said two planes took down three towers in New York City, and you're like, wait, what?
And then people go, well, what do you mean?
World Trade Center set Tower 7.
Right, never hit.
Free fall implosion, never touched by a plane.
And, uh, so, in that same vein, they tell you you're a conspiracy theorist, of course, if you notice that, that a building fell and collapsed that wasn't hit by a plane that day, but...
This is striking me the same way, where you have this story coming out back six years ago, and this narrative being drawn.
And this was around the time that this Ocean Gate thing, I think, was just getting started, which we're going to talk about this Submersible here.
We'll probably have to get into that on the other side of the break.
We're going to keep Steve around for a little bit longer, if he's willing to go through all of this.
They plant these narratives and they plant the reasonable doubt that you can say, well, you know...
It's plausible liability.
There was a coal fire.
You know, the steel was weakened, so that's why it snapped in half into perfectly, what, rectangular pieces of steel dropped out of the bottom of the ship.
Right.
You know, to me... And then when we get back on the other side of the break, we're also going to talk about how this all connects to, you guessed it, the Federal Reserve, who was on that ship, and why they want them not To be around anymore.
So, Steve, thank you.
Stay tuned.
Everybody, stick around, Steve.
We'll be right back.
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Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James.
We're joined by Steve Starrs.
He's been helping us break down with some incredible insight and information what's happened to the Titanic, the truth about the Titanic, and we're comparing and contrasting it to the story, the official narrative that they tell us.
Let's take a second here to go into who was on the Titanic.
So we've talked about previously how this all took place, how the Titanic could have been sunk, what could have happened to allow that to happen.
We've actually given the background of some of the people on board, including Benjamin Guggenheim and John Jacob Astor, and you talked briefly about John Jacob Astor's fortune being the kindness of J.P.
Morgan in taking control of his fortune after his untimely death on the Titanic.
But there's a book written by G. Edward Griffin called The Creature from Jekyll Island that talks about the fact that the U.S.
money system was at a at a key point in nineteen twelve to nineteen thirteen and that there were individuals who oppose the creation of what we see today as and know today as the federal reserve system the federal reserve being not federal federal bank federal reserve bank is not federal and it's not a bank it's a collection of banks that control our money and currency uh... private banks by the way
Let's take a second to unload this, they call it a conspiracy theory so we'll just preface that, take it with a grain of salt folks, but what seems to be a likely scenario here where the people who just so happen to oppose the creation of the Federal Reserve
all of the very important ones who had fortunes and connections and political clout that they could use to keep it from happening, they all just happened to get on a boat, go out in the middle of the Atlantic, hit an iceberg, and all just happened to perish.
Tell us about what do you think of that?
Yeah, I mean, these kinds of things happen all the time in history, friends.
Remember King Herod, the awful king in the Bible, invited all his friends to a birthday party and then barred the doors and burned the...
The building down and killed them all because he was afraid somebody might be planning a plot against him.
These people don't have any qualms about murdering thousands of people.
Look at 9-11.
You know, about half the number of people who died in 9-11, around 3,000, perished on the Titanic, around 1,500.
It was a very big accident.
It wasn't the biggest shipping accident.
There have been larger ones.
But there's a ghost and a mystery about it all, friends, and everybody senses that.
That's one of the reasons why there's such interest.
But when you mention these people, Craig, you know, what you said, you know, is that they really are very, very determined to do what they want to do, and they will do it at all costs.
And a lot of people don't realize that, you know, John Jacob Astor's fortune was Assumed the power and the control of it by JP Morgan at that time, and they've been fighting for this control ever since.
You remember, wasn't it, the great-granddaughter of John Jacob Astor, who was invalid and senile, and her nephew tried to kidnap her recently to get the money back to Vanderbilts and a lot of these other same people, or actually the Astor family.
Still trying to get their money back out of the control of JPMorgan, Chase Morgan, after all these years.
There were still lawsuits going on with the Californian even into 93 and 95.
People still fighting about what really happened there.
And that was one of the things that actually impeded the progress and release of James Cameron's Titanic.
He didn't even mention the Californian in the film.
And I think he knows what happened.
I think a lot of these people know what happened.
And this is why I want to see ROVs go down there and cut some pieces off those plates and bring them back up and let's have a look at what really took place, what caused those plates to break.
If you see the video that we'll put up at Craig's website, and by the way his website again is JustInformedNews.com Justinformednews.com.
I'm shamelessly plugging it because it's that good.
It really is a great website.
And you've got to go there to see the stories he's got because he's got visuals and support from some great stuff up there.
We'll put it up and you'll be able to look at the plates.
You'll get an idea of what we're talking about here.
Okay, was this thing actually designed?
And I think it's possible, Craig, that the iceberg may have actually saved lives, believe it or not, because if they'd have Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, no, this is actually, when you told me about this, I was like, wow, that actually kind of stands, it holds water when you think about it.
Tell the audience about how Hitting the iceberg may have, in fact, thrown a wrench into the plan that was originally meant to take place.
Talk about that.
Yeah, just like you talked about World Trade Center 7, you know, the building that was never hit by a plane that collapsed in the afternoon at freefall.
You know, it was one of those things that wasn't supposed to happen.
They were supposed to drive it right into the ice, but the iceberg stopped everything.
It kept the ship level long enough to get the lifeboats down on both sides.
Now, they only saved about one-third of the passengers there.
But had they hit that ice wall and rolled, friends, not very many people would have survived at all.
As a matter of fact, we talked about Bruce Ismay.
If he knew what was going on, he was up on the top of the wheelhouse getting one of the last boats ready to go, which was a collapsible, okay?
And he knew that this was the only place that you might actually find a lifeboat would be on the top of the ship in a case where the ship was uneven and rolled.
And this situation was he was up there and he told these people, look, I am going to go downstairs and try to get more people in this ship up here on the top deck because we're out of lifeboats.
If I'm not back in two minutes, I want you to lower that boat without me.
So he left his companion there.
The guy looked at his watch and he said, all right, I guess Astor said, lower it.
Let's take it over.
Well, the boat came over the side and Astor was waiting below the deck, a level below, and jumped in that collapsible.
and survive friends.
Okay, so I don't know whether... I mean, that's creepy, but Astor still has a lot of explaining to do, as does Captain Lord, you know, and some other people.
The story's coming back from the Californian.
They saw the flare.
Oh, you mean Ismay, not Astor.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Ismay, thank you for correcting me.
Yeah, no, no, no, that's good.
I knew who you were talking about.
We want to make sure the audience knows.
Yeah, Bruce Ismay, who's the CEO of White Star Lines.
Right, right.
So he survived, of course, and then we know the story about the Californian, Captain Lord, who had contradictory testimony.
The sailors said they saw the flares.
Oddly enough, a wireless worker, Evans, had gone to bed just before the last, and they had tried to tell everybody that this ice is out there.
So I mean, in some ways, you can't blame the Californian.
They sent the warnings, but the messages did not get to the deck.
There was at one point where they found their main coil for the wireless, a beautiful system, by the way.
It was a very powerful signal that was coming over the Titanic.
They found it full of water, and they suspected sabotage.
What was this system, this brand new wireless system, doing?
With a transmitter coil submerged in the water.
Somebody tried to sabotage their wireless system.
It almost looked like it did.
They spent so much time trying to fix that, instead of getting the messages out, were distracted.
So some of those ice warnings did not get to the deck.
They should have been signed off by the captain and responded to.
Well, I mean, let's take a step back and remember that if this is what we think it is and was, then, you know, there's a reason why they ignored all of that.
And let's talk about, though, this Titan Submersible, because I think this is a story we can tie in really quick here before the break.
So the Titan Submersible went down, and if you'll recall, OceanGate, the company that actually runs these quarter-million-dollar-per-ticket trips down to the Titan, they actually happen to have David De Rothschild on their board of directors which is an interesting little fun fact and what they're going to do now
according to time magazine is that the US and the UK are now going to be starting probably to restrict who can go down and see the Titanic now how convenient that they've been trying to limit access to the Titanic but it's hard because in international waters But they've been depending on the fact that it's at such a low depth.
I think it's at like, what, 14,000 feet or something like that?
No, it's 12,500 is where it is.
So it's 12,000 feet, but remember folks, Most, like, Navy submarines, stay around two or three thousand feet below the surface.
They don't go to that depth because the pressure is so great that it is a very dangerous depth to go to for any submersible or submarine.
And so now what they're going to do is use this Titan submarine, who just so happens to have David Dorach out on the board of directors, that, you know, had a billionaire on board when it was blown up, or imploded, excuse me, and that Uh, some famous celebrities just so happen to be scheduled to be on it.
Kind of like how in 9-11 all those celebrities missed their flights.
Remember that?
Yeah.
Um, we're going to talk about that and more on the other side of the break.
We're joined right now by Steve Starrs talking about the Titanic.
We're breaking this all down.
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I'm your host, Craig James, joined by Steve Starrs.
We're doing some interesting dives into the Titanic.
They talk about rabbit holes, right Steve?
Right.
I think this would be like a rabbit hole, what we're jumping now.
Except that's what it is.
It's just the truth, and we're trying to get to what the truth is.
So, we talked about Ocean Gate, the company that owns the Titan Submersible that was in the news, and how this, this is how the whole thing came up that we wanted to talk about the Titanic.
We talked about who was on board the Titanic, Why they would have probably wanted to get rid of those people.
And we're also going to look at how they're going to use this Titan submersible to now try to restrict access to the bottom of the ocean.
This is in international waters at about 12,000 feet.
Yeah.
And, uh, I guess if there's anything we can do to kind of wrap this up, let's talk about Anything else that you want to cover with this Titanic story, Steve, that we can kind of unpack here for the audience?
Well, I do believe that there's more investigation that needs to be examined.
I'd like to see those plates.
I think we need to understand, because that's where the ship broke up.
That's really where it broke in half.
Was it stress?
Was it heat caused by, you know, coal fires or something like that?
Was there explosions?
You see, you don't see... It's not like if somebody took a shotgun and blew a tin can apart.
You don't see the shrouded, kind of jagged edges on these plates.
They're roughly square.
Looks like they've been cut out with a pie knife or something like that.
That's something I think we need to talk about.
And then you talk about the World Trade Center 7 moment when they hit the iceberg instead of plowing into that ice floe up ahead.
Most people don't realize it's probably very likely that the Titanic could have missed and slalom through 10 lone icebergs and still hit that ice floe.
It was just a huge brick wall of ice and it was full of bergs and chunks and growlers and field ice and pack ice.
And you talked about 9-11.
A lot of people talk about thermite.
You said at the beginning, you know, you see these perfectly cut steel plates and thermite does come to mind.
It did exist then.
It certainly existed when 9-11 took place, and I'm not here to tell you what to believe.
You can believe what you'd like about that day, but Like I said, the concept and idea that two planes took out three towers is almost as ridiculous as believing that a chunk of ice tore a hole in an ice-breaking ship.
You know what I mean?
Like, you could almost say the same thing.
So, I mean, look.
I'm gonna tell you this, folks.
We are blessed to have Steve on the show.
We are blessed to be joined by him.
I want to bring him back on at a future date to talk about other things.
I think that we could talk about pretty much... Let's see.
I mean, I have the list here.
We could probably go through... Let's see.
What do you think, Steve?
We could go through... Ten subjects.
Ten or more, easily.
Easily.
I mean, look.
You're going to be a regular.
We'll get you back on again.
I want to say thank you for joining us.
Is there anything that you want to plug that you have going on that people can go, where can they find your stuff?
Well actually I'm not really doing, well you can go to my sub stack, stevestars.substack.com.
Just give me a like, you know it's free, subscribe if you want, you can, most people, you get a free subscription.
stevestars.substack.com and just give me a like, give me some love.
Yeah, and that's all plain spelling.
Steve, like you'd think, it's spelled in stars, just like you'd think it's spelled.
S-T-A-R-S.
And I know you have a show as well that you do, correct?
Yeah, I'm going to be doing a show today on RBN.
Again, folks know me from doing... I'm kind of like a phantom Buffalo Bill cowboy person who comes in and out all the time here, so everybody knows me.
And I'm glad to talk to all you folks.
I'll be back next Tuesday, or a week from Tuesday, Virginia will be in tomorrow.
She's a great one.
But I want to plug your website, though, Craig.
You don't mention it enough.
Folks, you've got to get to this.
Justinformednews.com.
Justinformednews.com.
Thank you.
And remember, folks, you can get there through 1360khnc.com.
If you just click my show, all the links are there.
Right.
Go on, Steve.
Well, you've got a lot of great links.
You've got a lot of great stories.
He's talking about the Ukraine war.
He's got, listen, you know, Craig has been in touch with some of the very top people and you're going to hear some, you're going to hear top experts in a lot of these areas that you won't get on just your regular talk show radio here.
He's got some great lineups and some people, I've talked to him on the phone.
There have been some very important people who have been in touch with him over the years.
We're blessed.
Yeah, I mean, next week, Steve, I'm going to let the cat out of the bag here with you.
Next week, everybody stay tuned.
Actually, not next week, Friday.
Friday, I'm going to be having James Martinez on the show.
He practically wrote the book on MKUltra, and he's got a big lawsuit that they're filing down in Texas that has to do with directed energy weapons, among other things.
So, we're going to get into some real... So, we call our segment here on Friday, Tin Foil Friday.
Because we do deep dives.
Maybe we should have you on as a guest for Tinfoil Friday sometime.
We can get our hats on and dive down these rabbit holes.
But Steve, you are a pleasure to have on.
I think that, I know that we're going to have you on the show again in the future here.
We'll try to find segments and do things.
Because this was just, this was good.
And you can take all this information out there and you guys can use it.
And like I said, if I do get a chance, when I do get a chance, to post this on my website, I will connect all the links that he's referenced here in this interview so that you can have access to all the information, not just take our word for it.
Go do the research yourself.
Don't just believe what you hear on the radio.
Make sure you do the research.
But that's part of what we're here for, is to help you guys, to get you started, because a lot of y'all work, a lot of y'all are busy.
I get it.
And that's why we're here, trying to unpack and expose the lies and the misinformation and disinformation.
Not the one they're trying to tell us, Steve, is, you know, mom's going to PTA meetings.
The real misinformation, disinformation, the truth about 9-11, Titanic, the pandemic, Federal Reserve, the 2020 election.
We're going to get into it all here on the show, so there's a lot more to come.
But I'm going to go ahead, since we only have A minute here left with Steve.
I'm gonna go ahead and just let you...
Tell us, Steve, about your show, since we only have a minute.
Let the people know, what do you cover on your show?
Well, I've been covering all kinds of things.
You know, I got involved with investigating the HIV-AIDS issue back in 1992, and Jason picked up on this when we had a caller bring up Dr. Peter Dewsburg and people that I've interviewed before, people like Carrie Mellison, been to the PCR and people like that.
And so that's how I kind of got hooked back in here, and I can talk at length about this, not because I'm an expert, but because I've been doing it for so long now.
Sylvia Farber, John Rapoport, Dave Rasnick, really great people that we've had on this station.
Again, we've sometimes had some of the most astounding guests, and I know you're going to have them on too, Craig, so it's really a blessing to have you here taking this slot.
I mean, this is a tough one to hold down, friends, and show Craig some love.
Give him a donation.
He's got a lot of gas money to pay for to get back and forth.
So I appreciate you.
Justinformednews.com.
I appreciate it, Steve.
We appreciate having you on the show.
Yeah, it's a bit of a commute out here, but I love Johnstown.
I love Colorado.
I love everything about this area.
You guys are wonderful.
Thanks, Steve Starr, for joining us.
We'll have him on soon again in the future.
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