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Douglas MacGregor Reveals TRUTH About Why Globalists Want Ukraine? | JustInformed Talk Radio
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*Music* Welcome back to Just Informed Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James.
And without further ado, I want to introduce our guest.
His name is Colonel Douglas McGregor.
He served under President Trump as the Senior Advisor to the Secretary of Defense.
He's written a number of books, his latest of which is Margin of Victory, Five Battles That Changed the Face of Modern War.
And he's overall an incredible military analyst who's given incredible insight into what's going on in Ukraine.
I want to welcome Colonel Douglas McGregor.
Are you here?
Yeah, good morning.
How are you?
Good morning.
Thank you for joining us.
Sure.
So, I want to talk about a few different things, and the first of which has to do with what's going on in Ukraine.
So, there's a lot of places we could start with that, but let's just start with your understanding of where the conflict stands at this very moment.
What do you see happening and what's happened up to this point?
Okay, well, we'll try to keep that a short summary.
Right at the moment, the Russian military establishment, we're talking primarily about the army, That in February of 2022 could put about 90,000 combat troops into the field and numbered a little over 200,000 in terms of its regular force with about 130,000 draftees is now a force of 750,000.
Draftees is now a force of 750,000.
And these people are now highly trained, extremely well equipped.
And they are sitting on top of most of southern Ukraine, certainly the so-called Donetsk Basin This is the area with the coal mines, steel production, factories, mineral wealth, you name it.
And across from them sits the remnants of the once great Ukrainian army that existed in the fall, or excuse me, in the spring of 2022.
That force was a little over 400,000.
It was extremely well trained, well equipped.
And most of the people that were part of that force are either dead or wounded.
And in subsequent months, Ukrainians raised new forces, almost entirely of people who were either reservists or had never served.
They're at a point now where they have very few real capable forces left.
When I say capable, that's probably an exaggeration.
They think that they may have 10 to 20 brigades that may turn out to be 30, 40, 50 thousand at the most, and they have no chance whatsoever of dislodging the Russians from their defensive positions.
And as a result, unless they are willing to negotiate, at some point Moscow will decide whether it stays where it is or advances to complete the victory over Ukraine.
So Ukraine, as a nation, is practically destroyed.
Its manpower is gone.
People continue to leave it.
It was already a corrupt disgrace on the world stage.
Now it's hardly more than a skeletal remains of what it was to begin with.
The question is what are we going to do?
What will the Europeans do?
And our answer to this point is to double down on the policies that we've followed to this point that have produced complete and utter disaster.
Policies that have made Russia stronger and more powerful than it has been certainly since the 1980s.
And ultimately creating conditions for the emergence of A force of more than 90 nations that are determined to get out from underneath the global financial system that the United States has built in favor of a new Russian, Chinese, Indian-led basket of currencies or new currency that is pegged to gold.
So I'd say we've got a huge disaster on our hands in Ukraine and strategically an even larger disaster for the United States.
I mean, see, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
Everything you just said is 100% accurate, and when you kind of unpack it, you go back to the beginning.
How did we get here?
And it seemed as though Ukraine wanted to have some sort of negotiated peace before they were decimated in this way.
Talk about how the West intervened and prevented that from happening, and what that has eventually led to is a lot of what you're describing, correct?
Well, no, I think that's an accurate statement.
Zelensky is a very strange figure who began life as a comedian, couldn't even speak a word of Ukrainian, and as far as I could tell, had no real connections to, quote-unquote, Ukraine.
He was thoroughly Russified.
And he was elected on a peace platform, and the Ukrainian population overwhelmingly supported that.
With the expectation that he would find a way to end the conflict, obviously the opposite occurred.
And he's become the loyal and obedient puppet of Washington, D.C.
and London.
However, about six to seven weeks into the operation, that is late March, it became pretty clear that the Ukrainians were losing badly, despite what you were told by the mainstream media in the West.
There was probably no chance for a victory.
And he actually entertained the idea of accepting neutrality for Ukraine.
Initially, that was one of the key requirements that the Russians had.
They did not want Ukraine to become a member of NATO and then ultimately become a base that would serve as a platform for attack against Russia.
And they had reasons to feel that that would happen because they'd seen us put installations into Romania and Poland for Aegis missile systems.
And their assumption was that these Aegis missile systems would find their way into eastern Ukraine and put their entire nuclear deterrent at risk.
Zelensky said, all right, we'll entertain neutrality, which keeps us out of NATO and keeps foreign forces out of Ukraine.
And immediately Boris Johnson was instructed by the Biden administration to fly into Kiev and make it clear that that was unacceptable and they would have to continue to fight.
We then made outrageous promises in the form of aid and assistance and billions in cash, all of which were designed to, quote unquote, keep Ukraine in the war.
Because as I'm sure your listeners remember, we were not terribly interested in Ukraine.
We saw Ukraine as an opportunity in our imagination to bleed Russia, to sap its resources, ultimately destroy its forces, ruin its economy, and then ultimately distribute of its resources in some sort of Post-war environment that we controlled.
That obviously has no chance of happening and never did.
And the opposite of what we set out to accomplish has occurred.
It's Ukraine and the Ukrainian nation that's destroyed.
There's no easy way out except to admit the truth.
The truth is not very popular in Washington, D.C.
And that's why I'm glad to have you on the show, because you're one of the few people I hear on all different platforms.
I've been listening to you for a long time in your analysis.
You're one of the few people who's willing to say the things that most people won't, which is the truth about the situation.
So when we come back, After the break, we're going to get into some more topics.
We're going to talk about the Zaporozhye power plant.
You know, both sides saying there's going to be some kind of nuclear false flag.
And we're also going to talk a little bit about controversial, you know, BlackRock and JP Morgan already saying they're going to step up to help facilitate the Ukraine development fund.
But before we go, just briefly, briefly tell the audience about, you know, the Maidan Revolution.
We only have a minute.
So, you know, just kind of give them a little background to how we got here.
Well, this thing, excuse me, called the Maidan Revolution, ultimately became an opportunity for the United States and its representatives on the ground at Kiev to install a government that was effectively willing to obey us.
And do whatever we told them to do in return for extraordinary promises of wealth and military assistance.
This coup went largely unnoticed in the United States for the simple reason that very few people know where Ukraine is.
Nobody understood what this revolution was all about.
All they saw were pictures of tens of thousands of people milling around in Kiev, talking about a new era of democracy, which of course made everybody very happy.
But in truth, it was a cover for the Central Intelligence Agency and representatives from Washington, D.C., some of the same people you see now, to install a government that was consistent with what we wanted to achieve in Ukraine.
Yeah, that's people like Victoria Newland and that gang that is still working there today.
So, we're about to go to a break, but we're being joined right now by Colonel Douglas McGregor.
He's got incredible insight into everything that's going on with this whole thing.
We talk about how he's telling the truth, and that's the thing they don't want you to really see.
We'll be right back.
On the other side of the break, we're going to talk about BlackRock, JPMorgan Chase, the Sapporo nuclear power plant.
We're going to try to get as much as we can in.
Everybody stay tuned.
Colonel, you'll stay with us.
We'll be back in just a minute.
You're listening to Just Informed Talk Radio.
This is your host, Craig James, joined by Colonel Douglas McGregor.
We'll be back.
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Welcome back to Just Informed Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James.
We're joined by a very special guest, Colonel Douglas McGregor.
He has been going through what's going on in Ukraine.
He's given us a brief synopsis of where we're at now with the conflict.
He gave us a really brief rundown of how we got there with the Maidan Revolution.
And now I want to talk to him about some other interesting points that, you know, are just happening here.
So we have the Zaparosha nuclear power plant.
Now, this happened after the dam on the Dnieper River was essentially, I guess, destroyed.
Can you talk about the dam being destroyed, the nuclear power plant, why Russia and Ukraine are both saying there's going to be some sort of nuclear dirty bomb attack on it, and then maybe we can talk a little bit about Lindsey Graham and Senator Blumenthal talking about, you know, invoking Article 5 and all that stuff.
Can you kind of break it all down for the audience?
Well, I'll do the best I can.
The nuclear power plant at Zavorozhye, was in the news in the fall of last year, when the Russians secured control of it.
And that began a period when the Ukrainians and their supporters in the West, the Western media, began to essentially tell everyone that the Russians were now going to damage the plant, harm the plant, cause radioactivity to be released, and so forth.
The International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, sent inspectors to the plant and found that the plant was very effectively secured by the Russians against Ukrainian attack, and that the reactors, most of them, were being shut down securely.
And so there was no problem and no danger whatsoever associated with the Russian control of the plant.
On the contrary, there was a lot of evidence that the Ukrainians were doing everything in their power to cause an accident there, and the Russians were successfully thwarting it.
Now, as the Ukrainians became more and more desperate in the winter and spring of this year, they decided to destroy the dam, causing this massive flooding.
And immediately, there was concern at the Zavorozhya nuclear power plant, because some of that water was used, obviously, to cool the reactors.
Fortunately, there's right now, as far as I can tell, only one that's still operating.
All of the others are in a form of hibernation or storage.
And the Ukrainians then started arguing that the Russians were going to do something dastardly with the power plant, which of course is nonsense.
And what in truth was happening, and continues to be a concern for everyone, is that given the desperate circumstances of the Ukrainian military, which is close to going out of existence, that the Ukrainians may actually do something that would cause radiation to escape.
No one in their right mind wants that to happen.
This plant sits in the middle of some of the most fertile farmland in the world, if not the most fertile farmland in the world.
The Russians don't want to harm it, certainly not, neither do the Ukrainians.
In fact, the great danger right now is that this war may end up causing famines in Africa and the Middle East because of the absence of the food that would normally be grown in much of Ukraine reaching these people.
So no one with an ounce of common sense wants something like that to occur.
But we also have a lot of evidence that the Ukrainians have been trying to put together something called a dirty bomb.
I don't know that they've had any success, but Zelensky's talked about it quite a lot.
And that is a serious concern for the Russians, because it would have a disastrous impact.
It would certainly throw a wrench into the works that Guarantees that this tragedy will be even greater than it already is.
So hopefully that won't happen.
I don't see any evidence that the Russians have anything other than plans to secure it and keep it safe.
The question is, these desperate Ukrainians that are in Kiev, what are they prepared to do?
I agree.
I think, you know, a lot of the Western media is reporting on this, and they're reporting what Zelensky is saying, and Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, he keeps saying, you know, the Russians are going to do it, they're going to hit the power plant, and like you kind of just laid out there, that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you look at it from the perspective that Russia's in control of it, That Russia doesn't want to, like you said, destroy that area and that it wouldn't do anything to really benefit them.
It would actually only make their lives that much harder.
So I think that's just kind of common sense, right?
But when you watch the news, it just feels like they're telling us a fairy tale.
You know what I mean?
Well, I think fairy tale is probably kind.
I think that the Western media
and uh... the washington and london government supported by their globalist uh... colleagues in europe have concluded that the narrative is what counts as opposed to reality and thus far they've been enormously successful in convincing most europeans and most americans that the russians are evil that this is a war they started when in fact we've been responsible for starting this war and this is stretched over many decades as we
broke our promises and moved increasingly to the east towards Russia and did everything in our power to effectively threaten and push Russia and bully Russia into allowing us to dominate Ukraine and ultimately them.
This sort of thing is very sad, but the problem is that despite the Russian hoax, which all of us lived through, most Americans continue to turn on the television, listen to the cable news, networks and believe whatever they're told.
I really wish more Americans would raise questions.
But unfortunately, in contrast to the Europeans for whom this whole war is now becoming very, very real and very dangerous, most Americans don't care what happens over there.
They're not terribly interested.
And they've lost their sense of proportionality.
They don't understand what it means to throw away $150 billion on this failed project.
Because thus far, No one seems to think that the waste of funds and the out-of-control money creation, along with rising interest rates, will make any difference.
I think that's wrong, and I think it's going to come as a shock to us later on this year that that holiday from reality is going to end.
But right now, most Americans just aren't paying attention, and politicians like the ones that you mentioned see this as an opportunity to grandstand in front of the public.
Yeah, I think one of the biggest problems, you hit the nail on the head, is the apathy and ignorance of most people who don't, you know, dive into these things.
I actually, on the show here, have actually gone through some speeches that Vladimir Putin gave, and where he talks about Bolshevism, Marxism, Communism, and it's almost like he's trying to warn the West, like, look, you guys are going down a path that you don't want to go down.
And I know you're kind of like, uh, you, you study Putin.
I know that you, you're very fluent in German and he is as well, I believe.
And you, you've kind of studied him as a person and his interactions with the West.
So maybe briefly, can you tell us about what Putin's mindset is?
Uh, because we're not going to hear this stuff from the Western media.
They just don't, they pretend they just put devil horns on Putin and put his face on the screen and say, look, this guy's the devil.
Don't listen to him.
What is your thought about Putin?
When the Soviets decided to withdraw from Germany and Central East Europe, and they evacuated the countries where they had forces, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Ukraine, White Russia, Slovakia, Hungary, the Czech Republic, all of these, the promise was made that we would not exploit this withdrawal.
in order to push the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and its forces further east.
Obviously that didn't happen.
Putin watched all of this and kept telling us, you know, you've broken your promises and you're moving your forces, your military power, and this alliance closer and closer to Russia.
We regard this as threatening.
We don't want North Atlantic Treaty Organization forces on our borders.
We don't want American military power sitting on our borders.
Don't do this.
This went on for years, and I think everybody ignored it because the assumption was that Russia in 2010, Russia in 2015, and Russia today is still the weak, exhausted, economically backward state That it was in the mid-1990s, after everything collapsed.
Well, that's not true.
And Russia has recovered, almost miraculously, of a state of complete collapse and poverty in the 1990s.
And that's what we are seeing.
Secondly, everyone theorized that Russian society was not cohesive, that Russian society would crack.
And of course, that has not happened, because the opposite is the case.
Putin's Popularity standing with the Russian people is about an 89% approval rating.
If anything, the Russian electorate and many of Russia's representatives and political leaders are critical of Putin for having pursued this war so deliberately and so cautiously.
But Putin has always wanted desperately to avoid a conflict with NATO and especially with the United States.
It's the last thing he wanted.
And he did everything he could up until the last moment to prevent that.
We have utterly refused to listen to the man, we've ignored the plea for neutrality in Ukraine, and finally he's decided he had to go in.
But this is not something he wanted to do, and we waste a lot of time imputing all sorts of evil things to the man about which I don't know much, because you said I studied him, I'm familiar with the man, but I have not studied him in detail.
But quite frankly, that's irrelevant.
We're dealing with a great power.
He is the man who leads the great power.
This is a nuclear armed power.
This is an enormous superpower in terms of resources, looking at minerals, looking at gas and oil, a whole range of things.
We ignored all of this and now we have a giant Russian military juggernaut sitting where we didn't want it.
Because one of the advantages that Ukraine offered if we made it neutral was that it meant that Russian military power would be hundreds of miles further east and nowhere near Western Europe.
What we're watching happen right now is this enormous juggernaut is now going to move further west because Russian security dictates it.
Because the Russians can't get any agreement from us regarding Ukraine.
We won't talk to him.
The only thing we say to the man over and over and over again, if you want an agreement with us, you have to publicly commit suicide, apologize for everything, and withdraw your forces.
Well, this is utter nonsense.
And we continue to threaten him with removal, which we cannot possibly achieve.
It is utterly ridiculous.
So we're to stand still.
Meanwhile, Europe is falling apart in every sense of the word, economically, Germany is being de-industrialized.
There is misery and misfortune across Western Europe.
You're seeing what's happening in France.
What we see in France could easily spread into Great Britain, ultimately find its way to Germany and parts of Italy.
Would be completely unsurprising.
All of this is not a direct consequence of the conflict, but it's one of the effects that this conflict has had.
You would think People in the West, led by the United States, would say, look, enough's enough.
Let's sit down, let's talk and come up with some arrangement, however imperfect it is, in order to stop the disaster that's underway.
And we haven't even talked about the millions of human beings, easily 12 to 14 million, that have been driven from their homes and left Ukraine, probably never to return.
Yeah, the toll of human life is just unheard of there, but I mean, at least in the modern times, with what this is turning into, it's getting worse and worse every day.
But when you speak on all those things, I really am reminded of, kind of, you know, you talk about who's in control now in our government, you know, you have the Biden regime, and he is actually surrounding himself with Obama officials and Clinton officials and everything else, and I'm reminded of I mean, are we just doing this as if the West is suicidal?
You know what I mean?
taking control of what, 25% of our uranium.
And all of these deals that the mayor of Moscow's wife, I guess, gave Hunter Biden some money, $3 million or something like that.
And you almost have to wonder, without getting into like conspiracy theory territory, you've got to almost wonder, is this all just being given away?
I mean, are we just doing this as if the West is suicidal?
You know what I mean?
Like, what do you think on that?
Well, there's a widely repeated joke here, It's not really a joke.
It's tragic, but people often talk about the three branches of government in Washington, and they say BlackRock, the international capital investment firm, Raytheon Corporation and the other defense industries, and then finally Pfizer, you know, the pharmaceuticals.
The point they're trying to make is that donors currently own your government and they control what happens in Washington.
The American people, per se, are not terribly represented anywhere.
In other words, there's no one terribly concerned about what is of importance to the average American.
They're willing to provide whatever release they can at the minimal level.
But in the meantime, people in Washington are stuffing their pockets full of cash.
And you're not going to get any help out of Wall Street.
And of course, everybody everywhere keeps telling everyone in the United States, everything's just fine.
Now, that's fine for some fat cat on Wall Street that's worth millions.
He thinks everything's fine.
But if you're trying to feed your family, whether you live in Utah, Southern California, Arizona, Pennsylvania, doesn't make any difference, you know things are not fine.
All you have to do is look at the food banks.
We're having trouble keeping the food banks filled, and we see more and more and more Americans showing up at food banks because they can't afford to buy the food that's required.
Well, that's incredible.
We're going to get into this and more on the other side of the break.
We're going to actually talk about the benevolent BlackRock and JPMorgan Chase offering free their service to Ukraine.
We're going to get into that and get Colonel Douglas McGregor's thoughts and opinion on that.
So please stick with us, Colonel McGregor.
We're going to be right back.
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Welcome back to Just Inform Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James, and I'm joined by Colonel Douglas McGregor.
This is our last segment with him before he's got to get out of here, but I really wish I could sit here and talk to you all day and just pick your brain on all this, but we're going to try to hit some important stories that I think you'll give great insight into.
First off, there's this story about Blackrock and JPMorgan Chase.
Coming together in their own benevolence and deciding that they're going to help the Ukrainian government, out of the kindness of their heart, establish a reconstruction bank called the Ukrainian Development Fund.
Now, one of the things to note about this is that BlackRock and JPMorgan are donating their services for this work of finding investors to rebuild Ukraine after it's been destroyed.
But just don't pay attention to the fact that the work they're going to do is going to give them basically a full behind-the-scenes look at all possible investments of the country, and they could not possibly use that to their own advantage.
Colonel McGregor, what is your thoughts on BlackRock and JPMorgan Chase's benevolence in offering their help to the Ukrainian people?
Well, BlackRock, of course, is perhaps the largest capital investment firm in the world.
You're talking about enormous sums of money.
BlackRock has controlling interest in Cargill and Monsanto and a number of other firms that are heavily engaged in agriculture and large-scale farming here in the United States and elsewhere.
We think that right now they've probably already purchased the rights to perhaps as much as 30% of Ukraine's arable territory.
And that's more than all of the farmland in Italy, for example.
This would give them enormous power, obviously.
Zelensky is, at least in theory, head of Ukraine, whatever there is left of it.
But to give you an example of the kind of disgraceful fraud all of this amounts to, there's a wonderful photograph of Larry Fink, who's the chairman and CEO of BlackRock, along with Bankman Freed, the fraud who was eventually caught in any other normal society, would probably be awaiting the death penalty on death row in most countries.
And also, Zelensky.
Here sit the three, and they're all smiling and talking about the wonderful things that will happen after the war is over.
Now, I don't know what Black Rock and the rest of Golden Sacks really expect to happen.
Because the more we stonewall Russia, the more likely the Russians are not just to take all of eastern Ukraine, but then to cross the Dnieper River, which divides the country, and move west.
Again, for reasons of national security.
That means we could end up with several hundred thousand Russian troops on the Polish border alone.
Which, of course, is the last thing that anyone in their right mind at NATO wants.
So I don't know what will ultimately happen.
But remember, this soil in Ukraine is so fertile that practically anything you stick in it grows brilliantly.
It was so valuable that during the Second World War, the Germans made an effort to load boxcars full of this soil and ship it back to Germany in the hopes that that would improve their Agricultural output.
So, as far as Blackrock and Goldman Sachs are concerned, and their members, they're buying gold, literally, that's sitting in the ground.
Again, will this ultimately come to fruition and happen?
I rather suspect it won't, because I think the Ukrainian state is destroyed, the nation is ruined, the armed forces are finished.
It's just a question of are we going to finally talk to the Russians or not, in which case the Russians will sweep over the rest of it and take it.
Well, that sounds pretty reasonable calculation of what's going on there.
Estimation, I should say.
You know, they say that according to a February 20, or February 2023 study, that they would take $411 billion to rebuild Ukraine, whatever that means.
So, yeah, I'm sure they're just going after the land and all of that.
So, let's kind of Let's pivot a little bit to solutions, okay?
So in your mind, Colonel McGregor, since you've been studying this for so long, what are things that our government can do now if it wasn't bought and paid for by Big Pharma, BlackRock, and Raytheon?
What would they be doing to try to end this conflict?
What could we be doing as a nation to make this all end?
We win, and maybe Ukraine isn't completely eviscerated.
Well, that's right.
That's exactly right.
I think the first thing that has to happen is that we have to agree up front, if we're going to have any talks regarding peace and a restoration of any degree of normality in the region, we have to agree up front that whatever remains of the Ukrainian state, and we're not sure what that would look like right now, It will be neutral.
It will not be the member of any alliance.
There will be no foreign forces from the West or anywhere else on the ground in Ukraine.
No foreign bases.
Effectively, the same agreement that was reached over Austria in 1955, when the Austrian government negotiated neutrality with the Russians, with the support of Eisenhower, who was then President of the United States, because Eisenhower kept telling everybody who would listen, privately, we don't have the resources or the manpower, now this is 1955, to defend all of the states in Europe that want to be part of an alliance with us.
We can't do it.
The best thing that could happen is for more and more of these states to become neutral.
Then they are no longer a burden to us, and they are not a threat to Russia.
Well, we ignored that, obviously.
But that's the first thing that has to happen.
If you can get everybody to agree, fine.
Ukraine will be neutral.
Then all things are possible.
Then we can look at how the borders will be redrawn.
And remember that borders in Europe have never been permanent.
I don't care where you are in Europe.
So that's nonsense.
Secondly, in Eastern Europe, the borders have changed more there than almost anywhere else in the world, repeatedly.
And you've had populations come and go, move in, move out.
So the notion that redrawing borders is some horrific act is nonsense.
Redrawing borders, reaching agreements on neutrality, that's how peace can be made, because that's how peace has been made in the history of Europe for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Yeah, I think redrawing the borders would be something that's reasonable, and you probably would have to at this point, given the amount of landmines that have been set across Ukraine, and it would probably turn into something akin to what we see in the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea, you'd have to imagine.
Well, nobody wants that.
Nobody wants that, because that will destroy trade and commerce.
That's the last thing you want.
You don't want a hostile border.
That's why neutrality is so important, because neutrality means there's no threat.
So there's no requirement for armed borders and, you know, fences and minefields, all this nonsense.
Nobody wants that.
You can't do business that way.
The Russians don't want it.
We're the ones that are talking about that sort of thing.
And that, of course, is because we're desperate.
We know the Ukrainians have no chance of, well, it's not just a question of no chance of winning.
The real question is survival.
And so our assumption is, well, we've got to keep this war going.
We'll lose face if we admit that we made a mess of things.
We'll lose face if we admit to defeat.
Therefore, we'll try to create a Korean-like outcome.
That's a catastrophe.
We didn't want the Korean outcome.
That happened for reasons that were beyond our control, frankly, because that was the height of the so-called Cold War, and that was a hot area.
And you had communism involved.
There's no communism today.
And, quite frankly, there's no threat of Russian invasion to the east of Europe.
I mean, the notion that somehow or another Russia was preparing to invade doesn't hold up to closer scrutiny.
If they had trouble with the small army that they did, dealing with Ukraine, why would anybody assume that they were planning on invading Eastern Europe?
I mean, it's just nonsense.
You can't have it both ways.
You can't say, oh, Russia's a great danger, Russia's a great threat, when Russia Yeah.
marches into eastern Ukraine and decides that it needs 700,000 or 800,000 troops to deal with a country the size of Texas.
So that was never true.
And the Russians are not interested in that.
And finally, you have the Chinese in the background.
They're trying to build a network across Eurasia and into the Middle East that allows for commerce.
Rail lines, truck lines, ship lines, you name it.
That's not going to happen with the war.
I cannot tell you how thankful I am to have you on.
Colonel Douglas McGregor, incredible insights.
I want to thank you for your time.
I know you're a busy man.
I know you have other things to do, and I want to say thank you.
And hopefully we can have you on the show again, because there's a lot more that we didn't even get to talk about.
But thank you for joining us, and I wish you a good day, sir.
And thank you, and hopefully we'll get you back on.
Thanks very much.
My best to everybody out in Colorado.
Thank you.
God bless.
We'll see you later.
And y'all stay tuned.
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