Jim Fetzer - REAL DEAL SPECIAL (6 May 2026) with Bill Binney & Katherine Horton UNDER FIRE!
Aired: 2026-05-07
Duration: 01:01:29


=== Deep State Operation Revealed (14:52) ===

[00:00:02]  Welcome to another Real Deal special in my ongoing series of interviews with Bill Benny and Catherine Horton Under Fire.
[00:00:09]  Catherine has breaking news to share.
[00:00:12]  Catherine, tell me another shooter?
[00:00:15]  How many are you going to have?
[00:00:17]  I mean, a dozen a day?
[00:00:19]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:00:21]  And this is important.
[00:00:22]  It's much more important than people realize.
[00:00:25]  For those who hear this for the first time, it will sound utterly batshit crazy and super far fetched and very tenuous.
[00:00:32]  But if you start from Butler and follow, The announcement of Butler, which was done with the Ace of Spades on April the 10th, 2024, and you follow the so called cartel signaling.
[00:00:43]  So, cartel signaling is the coded messages the Intel agencies put out using Masonic Illuminati code.
[00:00:51]  It's the same code that has been around for centuries.
[00:00:54]  It's in European artwork.
[00:00:56]  It's used by the Masons to this day, along with their secret handshakes.
[00:01:00]  It's a set of symbols like the all seeing eye is very known.
[00:01:04]  It's this funny 666 that they make with their fingers that, you know, Celebrities make that's also very well known, but there's an entire vocabulary.
[00:01:13]  And the false flag operations that you looked at, Jim, they have these typically.
[00:01:18]  And the assassination attempts against President Trump also have them.
[00:01:22]  They have an announcement and an execution, announcement and execution.
[00:01:26]  So, in terms of weird symbols, for example, during the Charlie Kirk shooting, the bullets were engraved with two very odd messages.
[00:01:37]  One was, ciao, Bella, ciao, ciao, ciao.
[00:01:40]  The other one was, I think, up arrow, side arrow, three times down arrow or something.
[00:01:46]  And it was like, hey, fascist, something, something.
[00:01:51]  So when you took these two bullets and the engravings, one seemed to represent Trump and this chow bella thing seemed to represent Melania.
[00:02:00]  So it was the announcement that they have a bullet for Trump and Melania.
[00:02:04]  So encoded in all this strange shit that's completely baked in with dodgy shenanigans and, you know, Statements that don't make sense, and several takes of the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
[00:02:17]  One of them, you know, that you showed shows the tent without anybody in there.
[00:02:21]  So, all these part stage events, because we don't know if Charlie truly died or not, but there was lots of shenanigans.
[00:02:28]  There's always messaging embedded.
[00:02:31]  And the messaging on September 10th and the Charlie Kirk shooting was in the two shell casings that were engraved for these messages, which really read we have a bullet for Trump and one for Melania.
[00:02:44]  That was September 10th.
[00:02:46]  On October 16th, the Secret Service found a sniper's nest that was set up to shoot Trump in Palm Beach International as soon as he stepped out of Air Force One.
[00:02:56]  So I talked about that.
[00:02:57]  That day was really kind of scary because in the Rose Garden they played Time to Say Goodbye.
[00:03:03]  And then, you know, the media team sent out that they were indeed playing Time to Say Goodbye.
[00:03:08]  And they had Andrea Bocelli, the singer who sings that blah, blah, blah, blah.
[00:03:12]  But the point is that every single assassination attempt is preceded by an announcement.
[00:03:18]  Similarly, the White House Correspondence Dinner shooting was preceded by the announcement of a shooter collapsing at the gala dinner at Mar a Lago on April 16th, right?
[00:03:29]  And I said, April 16th is nine days before April 25.
[00:03:33]  Nine is three times three.
[00:03:35]  So you have the Masonic 33 or 33 Crown, the initials of the Crown Corporation, embedded in that whole bullshit spectacle that went down.
[00:03:44]  Now, the White House Correspondence Dinner went down.
[00:03:47]  And when there's a really overt incident like that, one can take it to be.
[00:03:52]  The attempt that went with the announcement, even if it's not successful.
[00:03:56]  So, when there's a next attempt coming up, there will be a very kind of overt announcement of it.
[00:04:03]  And I take the overt announcement of it to have happened on Monday because there were two events tied to the Secret Service on Monday.
[00:04:11]  Number one, plainclothes spotters saw a guy under the Washington Monument on that grassy area carrying something that looked like a gun.
[00:04:22]  So, they said they saw the imprint of a gun.
[00:04:25]  I don't know what that means if they are looking at people with microwave.
[00:04:29]  That kind of is this you can see through clothing.
[00:04:32]  I think that's what it is.
[00:04:33]  And they saw a guy carry a gun, or if they meant it was really the imprint of a gun on his jeans, you know, whatever.
[00:04:41]  But they saw this gun, and then Secret Service Uniformed Division, or Secret Service Police, as they call them now, they confronted this guy, and he ended up shooting at them and shot a teenager who was just a bystander.
[00:04:56]  And then they arrested this guy, okay?
[00:04:59]  But.
[00:05:00]  What was very odd is that particular care was taken to make everybody know that the incident happened at 3 30 p.m. exactly like every news report that was put out there.
[00:05:15]  Who cares?
[00:05:16]  I don't care if it was quarter to four, if it was half past five.
[00:05:20]  I literally, the precise time of an incident has never been reported, but it's Masonic o'clock, okay?
[00:05:28]  33.
[00:05:32]  Yes, 33.
[00:05:33]  So Crown Corporation, that's why the Masons have 33 degrees.
[00:05:37]  Okay.
[00:05:37]  But there's more than that.
[00:05:39]  It also was emphasized.
[00:05:40]  It wasn't just like anywhere on the grassy lawn under that ginormous, you know, Masonic phallus.
[00:05:46]  No, it was exactly at the junction of Independence Avenue with 15th Street.
[00:05:52]  Now, 15, one plus five is six on the bullshit arithmetic of the cabal.
[00:05:57]  That's a six.
[00:05:58]  And then you have Independence Avenue.
[00:06:00]  So it sounded already, it's the, The cross section between the satanic, you know, six is halfway to 66 and independence.
[00:06:09]  You know, we're coming up to the celebration of 250 years of independence of the U.S.
[00:06:15]  So it sounded like an announcement by the Masons under the huge Masonic phallus, right?
[00:06:20]  Something to do with independence and it's dodgy ass shooting.
[00:06:23]  Okay.
[00:06:24]  But that was not all that happened that day because far away from D.C., in a hotel room in Miami, in the Hilton in Miami, you know, again, the Hilton.
[00:06:34]  At the Hilton again, you know, where the last shooting happened in that Miami Hilton.
[00:06:38]  I see this, this is the story, uh, Jim.
[00:06:41]  That at some point, 1 a.m. in the morning, you know, so during the night, a secret service agent followed a woman upstairs.
[00:06:50]  She just so happened to have her hotel room on the sixth floor, Jim, and great care was taken to emphasize that because it's very important what floor this hotel room is on, supposedly.
[00:07:02]  But the secret service agent proceeded to Follow her upstairs to her hotel room.
[00:07:07]  She kind of went inside and locked the door and then proceeded to masturbate in the hallway.
[00:07:15]  Yes, right, right.
[00:07:17]  You know, as you do, as the Secret Services won't have done.
[00:07:20]  Time, of course.
[00:07:22]  I mean, how absurd.
[00:07:23]  Kevin, it's spawning.
[00:07:26]  It's spawning.
[00:07:28]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:07:29]  And this time, great care was taken.
[00:07:33]  Somehow the time of the day didn't matter anymore, right?
[00:07:36]  That didn't matter.
[00:07:37]  But great care was taken to say the age of this Secret Service agent who just so happened to be 33 years old.
[00:07:48]  Just so because that's what you do in your early 30s, follow people into the Hilton hallways and then start masturbating at the age of 33, right?
[00:07:58]  Okay, so that was the story.
[00:07:59]  So clearly that's bullshit.
[00:08:01]  But also, what's telling is which details are reported about what incident.
[00:08:04]  In one, the times really matter for some reason, but the age or even the name of the shooter is like, ah, who cares?
[00:08:12]  Who cares who that guy was?
[00:08:13]  Move along, citizen.
[00:08:15]  In the other one, I think the name of the Secret Service agent was published, but You know, it was more important to know his age, right?
[00:08:23]  And that it was actually the sixth floor of the hotel.
[00:08:25]  They could have just said, oh, he tried to follow her up into her hotel room.
[00:08:30]  But no, that was not enough.
[00:08:31]  It had to be emphasized that it's the sixth floor.
[00:08:34]  Now, that's suspicious.
[00:08:35]  Also, I've been to many Hiltons around the country and they typically have four or five floors.
[00:08:40]  So, you know, that it would have six.
[00:08:42]  Maybe it's a bigger town, maybe.
[00:08:44]  But, you know.
[00:08:45]  Are we getting around to six, six, six again?
[00:08:48]  Exactly.
[00:08:49]  So the point is, if you take these two incidents, that both of them, Sound batshit crazy.
[00:08:55]  And you put them together, you get the sixth from 15th Street and the sixth floor.
[00:09:00]  So you get 66.
[00:09:01]  And you get this guy who's 33 years old.
[00:09:04]  And the other thing happened at 3 30 Masonic o'clock.
[00:09:07]  So the two events on the same day, both individually, clearly bullshit, not quite what's likely to happen.
[00:09:14]  But the two put together make a message.
[00:09:17]  And the message to me sounds like the Masons have announced that we, the Masons, As you know, represented at Masonic O'clock, our time has come at the base of that huge phallus, which represents the enslavement of the US.
[00:09:33]  This, we are now at the crossroads between Sixth Street, right, and independence, and we will shoot your attempts at independence while the Secret Service is jacking off.
[00:09:45]  Yeah.
[00:09:45]  While they're watching.
[00:09:47]  That's the message.
[00:09:49]  The Masons let it be known that, right, in the name of the crown, that this is their plan.
[00:09:55]  So, when you put the two together, and as I said, for people who are not versed in this, it sounds like the dumbest, craziest shit.
[00:10:01]  But you have to look into the actual events and find out how likely is it truly?
[00:10:06]  You know, out of all days in the calendar where Secret Service agents might be masturbating in a hallway, how come he picked that one?
[00:10:14]  You know, how come it's exactly the sixth floor?
[00:10:17]  How come it's exactly 3 30?
[00:10:18]  How come you choose to report exactly that?
[00:10:21]  And then you put the two together and you realize, ah, you know, they are unlikely individually, but put together as no fat chance.
[00:10:29]  Right?
[00:10:29]  There's no chance.
[00:10:30]  Like the Secret Service has 8,000 people on their books.
[00:10:34]  They have been around since, I don't even know when, but the 19th century.
[00:10:39]  And for over 100 years, it has not occurred to one of them to masturbate publicly in a hotel room hallway.
[00:10:46]  Right?
[00:10:46]  And then he chose that day.
[00:10:48]  So it's bullshit.
[00:10:49]  It's a really kind of like sexually charged, mocking, deriding message by the cabal.
[00:10:57]  That's what I wanted to say.
[00:10:58]  So basically, the message to the Secret Service is be on your guard.
[00:11:02]  Don't be just, you know, Off busy with other things because the next attempt, the shooting of the attempts at independence will happen.
[00:11:10]  Now, the emphasis on independence implies that they will try to do something before the 4th of July.
[00:11:19]  It's the 4th, right?
[00:11:20]  So the 4th of July and now.
[00:11:22]  So that leaves like a two month window.
[00:11:25]  Something big is going to happen and it will be on the scale of Butler and West Palm Beach and the White House correspondence dinner.
[00:11:32]  Could it actually be assassinating Trump?
[00:11:36]  Well, they will try to.
[00:11:37]  And you know what's important?
[00:11:38]  And this is what I've been trying to tell Sean Curran since September 24.
[00:11:43]  They will at some point stop pissing around with classical ballistics.
[00:11:47]  At some point, you know, when they are shooting my head dozens of times per hour with a visually camouflaged drone, which really means invisible to the naked eye, they have invisible drones and they shoot pulsed energy projectiles that go through ceilings and windows and walls and are still deadly.
[00:12:06]  Why would they not use those eventually?
[00:12:10]  You know, and I think that is what they are building up.
[00:12:12]  It will be a drone, it will be a pulsed energy projectile, or it will be a A pulsed energy projectile gun hidden in a car, and you can't find them on the fly as you're cruising about with Trump.
[00:12:24]  I mean, he might be protected in the beast, I have no idea.
[00:12:27]  You know, I don't know how this lead glass or this bulletproof glass really acts under pulsed energy projectiles, but I have it.
[00:12:35]  They tested it on my head that they can go through about 20 25 layers of sheet metal, and they still managed to shoot me and cause me bruising through 25 layers.
[00:12:47]  So It's anyone's guess.
[00:12:49]  So I have been trying for now going on to a year and a half to tell Sean Curran that the only way you can keep protectees truly safe is by taking all these incidents and these little announcements and take them bloody seriously because every single one has leads to the network.
[00:13:06]  So we have James Comey with his stupid seashells.
[00:13:09]  He's clearly tied to it.
[00:13:10]  But so is the police officer from Palm Beach Sheriff's Office who collapsed at Mar-a-Lago.
[00:13:15]  He was hired to collapse that way.
[00:13:19]  So, something about him will take you to the network.
[00:13:21]  He might not know what he announced, but he sure as hell will know that he was part of some bullshit.
[00:13:26]  You know?
[00:13:27]  So, anyway, at some point, we need Bill Binney to look for the network properly, professionally, because at the moment, all we have is me, like, doing tea leaf reading, trying to read the stupid little schoolboy messages from these psychopaths.
[00:13:42]  They had to hire you and Bill as special consultants to protect the president, for Christ's sake, Catherine.
[00:13:48]  You know, the crazy thing is.
[00:13:51]  A dynamic duo that could actually defeat 99% of these efforts.
[00:13:57]  Yeah.
[00:13:58]  And you know, the crazy thing is they don't even need to pay us.
[00:14:01]  We were willing to just give them everything we know there for free right now.
[00:14:06]  And they couldn't be fucked to just, you know, arrange a meeting.
[00:14:10]  It's really sad.
[00:14:11]  Yeah.
[00:14:11]  It's really sad.
[00:14:12]  And maybe they thought, oh, it's worthless.
[00:14:14]  But hey, you know, when you're desperate enough, you will want to follow every single lead.
[00:14:19]  I'm thinking they want to keep their options open for actually taking him out.
[00:14:24]  I think the Secret Service, the Deep State Secret Service, for sure.
[00:14:28]  But that's why I was trying to get through to Sean Curran specifically, because to this day, I don't believe he's a Deep State operative at all.
[00:14:35]  Not at all.
[00:14:36]  You know, I think he's doing, yeah, that one guy and the other four people who ran on the stage.
[00:14:43]  But that's it.
[00:14:44]  You know, I have solid evidence that there was a Deep State operation when the first time I went, because this black guy came out of nowhere and was desperate, like desperate to remove me from the building.

=== Secret Service Removal Attempt (02:22) ===

[00:14:54]  And I remember, actually, it was just last night, I had the flashback.
[00:14:58]  Of how he acted and how agitated he was, how urgent it seemed to be.
[00:15:04]  And I even thought to myself, oh my God, is Sean Curran in an elevator somewhere?
[00:15:09]  And they are desperate to try me to not see him leave the building somehow.
[00:15:14]  Because I had almost the exact same situation when I was in the offices of a British magazine called Private Eye.
[00:15:23]  And I think the guy who runs it is called Ian Hislop.
[00:15:27]  But anyway, I think he is a good guy.
[00:15:29]  At least he would have been open to me telling him.
[00:15:32]  About the court case, I just had left.
[00:15:34]  I just left a hearing in the high court about my litigation against MI6, about the directed energy weapon attacks on me, blah, blah, blah.
[00:15:43]  And I took myself to the offices of Private Eye and I went in and I talked to the secretaries downstairs.
[00:15:50]  And they claimed that there were no journalists in the building at that time.
[00:15:56]  None.
[00:15:57]  None.
[00:15:57]  It was just them in the whole building.
[00:16:00]  And as I was talking to them, I said, okay, let me just write a note to the chief editor of the Private eye outlining what this case is about.
[00:16:09]  And while I sat there, a guy kept running up and down very nervously, throwing me nervous glances, signaling to these ladies.
[00:16:17]  And at some point, one of these stupid bitches answers the phone, completely being the little moron that she is.
[00:16:24]  And she blurts out and she goes, Oh, yeah, they're all upstairs in the writers' meeting.
[00:16:29]  He should call you back later.
[00:16:31]  So all the journalists and probably Ian Hislop himself were upstairs on the floor above.
[00:16:36]  And this little intel operative kept just monitoring the meeting and running up and down.
[00:16:41]  And saying to the women, make sure you get her out of the building.
[00:16:45]  So these women were desperate to get me out of the building five minutes before five, because I think at five the meeting finished and he would have come downstairs and gone home.
[00:16:55]  So I remember the body language of this black guy in the Secret Service foyer, like shouting at me, you have to leave the building now.
[00:17:03]  And when I said, sure, but you know, what name should I attach to this executive decision?
[00:17:09]  And then he just went, poof, you know.
[00:17:11]  So it's all a big, um, Cover up operation at the Secret Service.

=== Disappearing Metal Detector Mystery (14:54) ===

[00:17:16]  The only thing I have concrete evidence for is that, yes, there's a deep state operation in the Secret Service and they will do anything, anything at all to make sure that Bill and I do not talk to Sean Curran.
[00:17:30]  Did he get our letters and think, well, that sounds daft?
[00:17:33]  No idea.
[00:17:34]  I can't imagine any other explanation than they don't want the president to be protected from the threat they intend to use against the president.
[00:17:43]  I don't see any other way around it.
[00:17:45]  Do you?
[00:17:46]  Absolutely.
[00:17:47]  I think that's exactly what it is.
[00:17:49]  And which is further evidence that they still have other things that they want to try in the works.
[00:17:54]  So, you know, that's it.
[00:17:56]  But anyway, it's just, it's so hard because every time I see these announcements and I decode them and you see the jeering and the arrogance, I have this another wave of an urge to just reach out and try to get through to the Secret Service leadership anyway, you know.
[00:18:14]  But I just don't know.
[00:18:15]  I don't know what to do.
[00:18:17]  We tried everything.
[00:18:18]  And who else would listen to us?
[00:18:20]  I have no idea.
[00:18:21]  Who else could act on the information?
[00:18:27]  I'm not sure where we stand on the Butler, which I believe, of course, was also fake, but we seem to be in agreement on the DC correspondence dinner.
[00:18:37]  Do you know they got a video, Catherine?
[00:18:39]  Now, before the original, he's sort of running like a sprinter with his hands at his side, no weapon in evidence.
[00:18:45]  They've now got a new video, and he's carrying a shotgun.
[00:18:49]  I mean, it's ridiculous how blatant they are in fabricating evidence, Catherine.
[00:18:54]  I'm just embarrassed.
[00:18:56]  Wait a second, because the one video where they show him running without anything in his hands, and it actually shows the metal detector disappearing, and it looks like he's got this white paper in front of him, and that disappears.
[00:19:09]  That is AI.
[00:19:10]  And if you look at the watermark top left, it says CAP AI.
[00:19:15]  CAP AI.
[00:19:16]  And CAP, that's CAP, is Gen Z talk for that's bullshit.
[00:19:20]  So really, it passes as bullshit AI.
[00:19:23]  But that was not released by the Secret Service or the police.
[00:19:26]  It was made by somebody, you know, a random account that suddenly gets duplicated everywhere.
[00:19:32]  So, the intel agencies to confuse us.
[00:19:35]  But that is not the original.
[00:19:37]  The only original was there was a low resolution version posted by Trump, which is identical to the high resolution version they released later when they had finished analyzing it.
[00:19:48]  And that shows consistency.
[00:19:50]  I tried to check that.
[00:19:51]  The one way he doesn't have a weapon is an AI rendering that somebody out there put out, and it was magically duplicated by every major influencer channel.
[00:20:05]  But it actually says CAP AI on the top.
[00:20:09]  So there is consistency regarding what the Secret Service put out, as far as I could make out.
[00:20:16]  But yes, the whole thing was arranged and staged.
[00:20:22]  And the only thing I don't know is do you notice the other thing that they keep going back to these shotguns?
[00:20:30]  So the White House Correspondents' Dinner shooter had a shotgun, and the supposed Mar-a-Lago shooter, where we don't have any evidence apart from one picture.
[00:20:38]  Showing a shotgun in the gas can on the tarmac, also used a shotgun.
[00:20:44]  It just, you know, it doesn't make any sense.
[00:20:47]  Who in their right mind would choose that weapon to have a standoff with the Secret Service, you know?
[00:20:53]  Sure, ridiculous, of course.
[00:20:56]  Completely.
[00:20:58]  Yeah.
[00:21:00]  And my only thought is that probably a shotgun where you just disperse the whatever you call it, the shot, right?
[00:21:06]  The little lead pallets or whatever they use these days, you have less of an impact and it's less deadly.
[00:21:13]  If you shoot a bulletproof vest with that.
[00:21:16]  So, if you have a staged event and the shooter has a shotgun, maybe, I mean, I know next to nothing about weapons, but when they were talking about, oh, yes, all these little pellets were embedded in the protector vest, the bulletproof vest, I was like, yeah, maybe that's why they used it.
[00:21:35]  They didn't want it to be actually deadly.
[00:21:39]  Catherine, I've got a new analysis of the.
[00:21:44]  The relatively newly released, I mean, I thought it was newly released.
[00:21:49]  There's a fellow named Officer Tatum who does quite a good job of looking at it.
[00:21:57]  Can you see it?
[00:21:58]  Can you see the screen?
[00:21:59]  Yep.
[00:22:00]  Hey, let me a little bit at Tatum.
[00:22:04]  Run out with it, run back through with a gun.
[00:22:07]  There's a canine officer that is by the door, and you see the dog circling around the door.
[00:22:13]  The dog actually spotted him.
[00:22:16]  Before he makes his way, are they trained to smell gunpowder?
[00:22:19]  They can they?
[00:22:20]  Here he comes.
[00:22:21]  Here he comes.
[00:22:23]  Oils in their skin.
[00:22:24]  They're trained for multiple things, but the dogs sense danger.
[00:22:26]  Look, if you've ever been out shooting without a suppressor, you already know it's loud, it's harsh, and over time, it beats up your ears.
[00:22:35]  That's a promo.
[00:22:36]  He's exclusive price.
[00:22:37]  He apparently sells his violin service.
[00:22:40]  Like, bro, you young.
[00:22:43]  Why don't you walk through the hallway like you got a bad hip?
[00:22:46]  His body's going this way, and he was going at a 45 degree angle.
[00:22:50]  Roll the clip.
[00:22:54]  This is him casing the joint before the event.
[00:22:58]  Time out.
[00:22:58]  Now, how Secret Service didn't figure out there's a guy roaming the hallways, scoping a place is beyond me.
[00:23:10]  Roll it.
[00:23:15]  Notice there's no date time stamp on this video.
[00:23:19]  Yeah, I think the original does have it though, because that's a landscape format.
[00:23:24]  But you can see the.
[00:23:25]  Definitely.
[00:23:27]  This is other.
[00:23:28]  He's got various videos on script.
[00:23:30]  Videos.
[00:23:32]  I'll fix it.
[00:23:34]  I mean, you know what's really strange is when he goes into that side room.
[00:23:37]  What is that even?
[00:23:38]  An elevator shop?
[00:23:39]  Whatever.
[00:23:39]  Oh, it turns out to be a major hallway to the main entrance, Catherine.
[00:23:44]  Oh, probably it turns out to be.
[00:23:48]  How the hell does he pull a gun of that size?
[00:23:51]  Was it under his jacket?
[00:23:52]  Because his jacket wasn't the trench coat length.
[00:23:55]  You know, how does he hide a weapon that size in a semblance of the.
[00:23:58]  Let's go here.
[00:23:59]  Here you got.
[00:24:01]  He's already inside.
[00:24:02]  Let me go back a second more.
[00:24:05]  I mean, this is all really, really bad.
[00:24:10]  Let's go.
[00:24:10]  That dude's a nut and he got a bad shit.
[00:24:13]  And his brain doesn't work because he didn't look at all.
[00:24:16]  Wrote a clip.
[00:24:33]  Time out.
[00:24:34]  The canine guy is just standing there like they're not ready to do anything.
[00:24:40]  It's all practice for them.
[00:24:42]  They're just sitting around, just going rigmarole, rolling.
[00:24:49]  Yeah, and there's two seconds between him averting his gaze and the other white guy running out.
[00:24:54]  I mean, was he watching him assemble his rifle or his shotgun?
[00:25:00]  It turns out to be a big, major hallway.
[00:25:03]  I mean, it's just absurd that he could have gone in there and had a gun station somewhere gathering.
[00:25:09]  This whole thing is so ridiculous.
[00:25:11]  But what Tatum goes through, too, is there's a security guy in the foreground who fires three shots at him one when he's right here coming through, one when he's just a few feet more, where you've got the three officers in the background, though I've lined it up with a ruler and it would have just missed him to the right, and a third when he's right, frankly, right in front of him.
[00:25:35]  I mean, it's ridiculous.
[00:25:36]  That he could have missed.
[00:25:38]  And there are no marks on the wall.
[00:25:40]  What that means is he was firing blanks.
[00:25:43]  He was firing blanks.
[00:25:45]  Am I seeing something, or did he walk past the walkway first and then came back in?
[00:25:54]  They did remove, they did take samples from the wall.
[00:25:59]  So I'm wondering if, because remember that this is just drywall.
[00:26:03]  What looks like a wall in an American hotel is just drywall.
[00:26:09]  A bullet goes through like it's nothing, you know.
[00:26:12]  A Glock will just pass through it.
[00:26:14]  So, are there bullets and we just don't see it because of the resolution?
[00:26:17]  Yeah, we're gonna go through it a couple times here, right?
[00:26:21]  He does it in slow mo, too.
[00:26:25]  See why people sometimes be thinking, Is there something else going on here, bro?
[00:26:31]  That dude should have died at the doorway right there.
[00:26:34]  How does he walk out?
[00:26:36]  The canine guy walks off somewhere, run out with it, run back through with a gun.
[00:26:42]  Roll it.
[00:26:44]  Go back so we can.
[00:26:45]  This is basically, I mean, the guy, the canine guy, stands there almost as the final checkpoint to make sure the other guy manages to assemble his gun correctly.
[00:26:54]  You know, it's almost like he's standing there going, You okay, mate?
[00:26:58]  Yeah, you got it?
[00:26:58]  All right.
[00:26:59]  You know, yeah, you got your weapon now.
[00:27:02]  You ready to go shoot that brass headache?
[00:27:05]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:27:06]  What a joke.
[00:27:08]  Yeah, that is the absolute joke.
[00:27:10]  It's like, you know, because the dog is signaling.
[00:27:13]  And they have dogs, they even have dogs trained to pick up electronics.
[00:27:17]  So I'm sure that the dog can pick up, you know, gunpowder, whatever.
[00:27:21]  Right.
[00:27:22]  So, yeah, that dog was like, some shit's going down.
[00:27:26]  But the other guy just pulls back the dog and goes, hey, you okay, mate?
[00:27:29]  You know, you just make sure, to make sure that you're okay assembling that thing, you know, make sure, make sure to remove the safety before you start running, you know.
[00:27:43]  All right.
[00:27:43]  There you go.
[00:27:44]  And action.
[00:27:46]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:27:50]  So, I mean, but as we know, in 100% of the cases, there's deep state secret service.
[00:27:57]  And that's the other thing.
[00:27:58]  Was this guy secret service?
[00:27:59]  Was he a local police officer?
[00:28:01]  Because it's like a mix of things, depending on.
[00:28:03]  That just says police.
[00:28:04]  See, the guy here fires at him three times.
[00:28:08]  But it's a secret service police.
[00:28:10]  He's uniformed division secret service.
[00:28:12]  But what about the canine guy?
[00:28:13]  Because the three muses standing by the wall, they are TSA stuff.
[00:28:20]  That's why they, you know, scuttle away because they're not actually trained, I don't think, with what they're doing.
[00:28:27]  He's running with a shotgun for crying out loud.
[00:28:31]  I understand, but at least he pulled his gun out and fired a shot on the guy.
[00:28:36]  Rodecliff.
[00:28:36]  Three times.
[00:28:38]  Yeah.
[00:28:39]  Here's the first one.
[00:28:41]  You'll see the flash.
[00:28:42]  There's a flash.
[00:28:45]  Yeah.
[00:28:46]  And there's this second.
[00:28:47]  He's firing on him.
[00:28:48]  Yeah.
[00:28:48]  That seems like it's going to hit the wall.
[00:28:51]  And there's a third.
[00:28:53]  Yeah.
[00:28:54]  With the third, I'm amazed he didn't shoot his colleague, to be honest.
[00:28:57]  I know.
[00:28:59]  I know.
[00:28:59]  The whole thing's just absurd.
[00:29:01]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:29:03]  Well, look, when I saw the journalists the next day, they were amazed that the crime scene was there, was no crime scene tape, everything was tidied up.
[00:29:12]  But what they did notice is two square cutouts in that wall, which you see at the end behind the colleague that got nearly shot.
[00:29:20]  So I think two bullets did go in there, which would make sense.
[00:29:23]  The other thing about handguns is that they are notoriously hard to, you know, to hit anything with because of just the recall is just so violent.
[00:29:32]  There's no stability, you don't guide the bullet.
[00:29:35]  It's a short muzzle.
[00:29:36]  It's like freaking appalling.
[00:29:38]  You know, you're basically just going to create it standardized.
[00:29:42]  It's good you mention that because you don't even see any recoil from this handgun.
[00:29:47]  And, you know, I mean, I qualified with a 45 four years in a row as a Marine Corps officer.
[00:29:53]  I could have shot the guy.
[00:29:55]  I don't think it would have been all that tough.
[00:29:56]  From that range, really pretty ridiculous.
[00:30:00]  This whole thing was so artificial, so ridiculous, Catherine.
[00:30:07]  I'll find the looking down the hallway because I had that in my shows just today.
[00:30:13]  I'll find it while we talk.
[00:30:14]  Go right ahead.
[00:30:15]  Keep commenting.
[00:30:17]  Here's the thing what I would like to point out.
[00:30:20]  You were actually trained for the military.
[00:30:23]  So you were trained to kill people.
[00:30:26]  The Secret Service doesn't really train to kill people in a situation of war.
[00:30:31]  They kind of, you know, it's like military training light, light, light diet version.
[00:30:37]  Okay.
[00:30:38]  So it's like diet Pepsi.
[00:30:40]  And then they hire a bunch of kids from all sorts of backgrounds, not necessarily military, and their weapons training is really minimal.
[00:30:49]  And what I saw this guy do, I mean, if you are in a, you know, in Transylvania, there's a lot of hunting.
[00:30:54]  If you want to hit a moving target, you don't follow the target, you get ahead of it and shoot it when it gets in your, you know, in time.
[00:31:02]  You shoot it ahead of time, you don't try to trace after it.
[00:31:05]  It's notoriously bad for trying to hit anything.
[00:31:08]  But then again, let's remember by this time, the officer, Was already shot with a shotgun and was going down and was firing these rounds while falling down.
[00:31:18]  So, all in all, not a bad attempt.
[00:31:20]  My question is, what about the others?
[00:31:23]  What about the others?
[00:31:24]  Because the irony is, the shooter supposedly fell after running through this little bit that we saw because he knocked his knee on that huge open box where the metal detectors go in.
[00:31:37]  So, he actually hit his knee and fell as a result, right?
[00:31:42]  If you play Call of Duty, probably this doesn't happen that you just knock your knee and fall on your face.
[00:31:46]  But that's what happened, and that's how they captured him.
[00:31:49]  But, you know, if this had been even just a police unit, I have seen enough police body camps to know that if any one of these shooters goes down, the police open and empty an entire magazine's worth into that guy when he's on the floor.
[00:32:04]  And yet they didn't.
[00:32:05]  Maybe there were other people who piled on top of him, and that's why they didn't want to shoot their colleagues.
[00:32:09]  No idea.

=== Orchestrated Ballroom Assassination Plot (14:47) ===

[00:32:10]  But the biggest lead in all this is the canine officer.
[00:32:16]  Because the other thing that you need to know in every single staged event, there's a final all systems go.
[00:32:25]  There always is.
[00:32:26]  There always has to be because the number of fuck ups is numerous.
[00:32:30]  So, they fuck up many more things and have to pull back than they actually succeed with.
[00:32:34]  So, at the final, there's a final all system school always.
[00:32:38]  In Butler, it was the woman on horseback who rode with a huge flag in front of the shooter's face, literally seconds before he started shooting.
[00:32:48]  That was the all system school.
[00:32:49]  Here, I would say the all system school was the canine officer who has his back to the CCTV, looks over, and the resolution isn't high enough, but it almost looks like he says something to the guy.
[00:33:01]  It could have been, you're good to go, mate.
[00:33:03]  You know, yeah, yeah.
[00:33:05]  So, my prime co conspirator suspect is that canine officer.
[00:33:11]  You know, I gotta play this for you.
[00:33:14]  This is a little satiric piece that is so damn good.
[00:33:21]  Can you see it?
[00:33:21]  The immediate fix for snoring at home, yeah.
[00:33:23]  And I have audio as well.
[00:33:25]  This is on sleeping on the side and opening the notes.
[00:33:28]  Was it stage?
[00:33:30]  We'll see.
[00:33:31]  But first, what's the biggest takeaway after the assassination attempt at the White House Correspondents' Dinner?
[00:33:38]  You guessed it.
[00:33:39]  We need a ballroom.
[00:33:40]  Now, you might be thinking, no, how do you get that?
[00:33:44]  The takeaway is we have to consider how people are getting radicalized in our country.
[00:33:48]  Look at the Secret Services security lapses, reduce political violence.
[00:33:52]  Well, you're thinking that because you're an idiot.
[00:33:54]  This is why we need a ballroom, is such the obvious takeaway that Trump loyalists immediately and simultaneously took to Twitter.
[00:34:03]  All saying the same thing.
[00:34:04]  And given how organic that looks, it doesn't have anybody suspicious that these independent voices are dependent on a centralized coordinated system that hands them talking points to say with their independent voices.
[00:34:19]  I'll know what I think as soon as they hand me the script, nor does it make any sane person suspicious that the whole thing was staged in order to justify Trump's bulletproof ballroom.
[00:34:30]  So tonight we'll take a look at how the correspondence dinner shooting lines up perfectly with the official narrative.
[00:34:38]  Via squiggly lines.
[00:34:43]  Good evening.
[00:34:44]  Before we take a look at some coincidences, let's talk ballroom.
[00:34:47]  Really, when you think about it, when someone tries to assassinate the president, the first logical conclusion you come to is, well, we need a ballroom.
[00:34:56]  He's in point.
[00:34:57]  That's why on the back of the car, Jacqueline Kennedy was quoted as saying, you should have built him a ballroom, you heartless, vicious bastards.
[00:35:05]  You might think that sounds crazy, but.
[00:35:07]  Do your research and you'll find JFK was not in a ballroom when he got shot.
[00:35:13]  Get into it.
[00:35:14]  Well, let's go through what you might not know, but you need to know in order to understand this not at all stage for political gain assassination attempt.
[00:35:22]  Recently, a judge ruled that Trump can't build his ballroom for non security reasons without congressional approval.
[00:35:29]  So they halted construction.
[00:35:31]  So then Trump attends the White House Court's finest dinner, which he's never done before as president.
[00:35:35]  The shooter opens fire.
[00:35:36]  Luckily, nobody died.
[00:35:38]  And the shooter wasn't even shot by security.
[00:35:41]  For some reason.
[00:35:41]  Then just 30 minutes later, Trump holds a news conference saying, This is why we need a ballroom.
[00:35:47]  It's drone proof.
[00:35:47]  It's bulletproof glass.
[00:35:48]  We need the ballroom.
[00:35:49]  That's why Secret Service, that's why the military.
[00:35:51]  Dylan is cockseeding.
[00:35:53]  I was thinking.
[00:35:54]  Trump oil is then immediately taken to Twitter, having independently come to the exact same conclusion after the assassination attempt.
[00:36:01]  This is why we need the ballroom.
[00:36:03]  And the very next day, the DOJ sent a letter urging for the dismissal of the lawsuit that's halting construction of the ballroom.
[00:36:11]  We need the ballroom.
[00:36:13]  From security reasons, of course.
[00:36:15]  So, in other words, the assassination attempt had nothing to do with the ballroom, but since it happened, now has everything to do with the ballroom.
[00:36:23]  But was the assassination attempt staged?
[00:36:27]  Of course not.
[00:36:28]  We'll take a look at some things that'll make you question that.
[00:36:30]  But no, I wasn't staged to push the ballroom thing through.
[00:36:34]  And in fact, many of the magazineist Trump loyalist conservatives will not only be outraged if you question that, they'll be the first to tell you that something like that could never be staged.
[00:36:45]  And I think they're right.
[00:36:46]  Just take a look at this footage from the recent attempt.
[00:36:53]  Oops, that's the wrong one.
[00:36:55]  That was Ilyan Omar.
[00:36:57]  And what those same conservatives have all said was a staged attack.
[00:37:00]  That one's not real.
[00:37:02]  By the way, she's a World War I veteran, did a great job.
[00:37:06]  Do we have the White House dinner attack footage?
[00:37:10]  See if you can find that.
[00:37:12]  I thought we.
[00:37:15]  Let me know when you find it.
[00:37:17]  So, anyway, New Mega is outraged that it could even be questioned Was it staged?
[00:37:22]  They don't understand what would make people even ask such a crazy question.
[00:37:27]  Well, I'm here to help.
[00:37:28]  So, let me explain that in simple terms so they can understand what would make people wonder if it was staged.
[00:37:34]  Here's how they look at the same people who have told them that there's no criminals in the Epstein files, who have also told them there are no Epstein files, and also told them there's Epstein files, but they're a hoax.
[00:37:46]  And they simply believe that those same people are capable of telling lies.
[00:37:51]  Therefore, they don't believe everything they're told by these same people at face value.
[00:37:55]  Makes sense.
[00:37:56]  But anyway, it could never be staged because the government would never lie to you.
[00:38:00]  So here's 10 facts that'll prove that anyone thinking maybe it was staged should be publicly ridiculed.
[00:38:07]  One, the assassin is a school teacher and booked a $3,000 a night hotel room, which he would have had to do months in advance because hotels in DC book up well in advance with events like this.
[00:38:17]  And he did that to get President Trump.
[00:38:19]  Even though Trump has publicly boycotted this event every year, he's been in office, but somehow he knew Trump was going to be there this year.
[00:38:28]  Number two, he got multiple guns into a highly secure event that had the entire line of succession.
[00:38:38]  In attendance, and that same event had multiple reports of suspiciously lacked security.
[00:38:45]  The event that had the whole line of succession in attendance, either way, that's kind of weird.
[00:38:50]  Number three, the shooter wrote in his manifesto, There was no damn security.
[00:38:55]  I walk in with multiple weapons, and not a single person there considers the possibility that I could be a threat.
[00:39:01]  This level of incompetence is insane.
[00:39:06]  When did he write that in his manifesto?
[00:39:08]  Because he did the thing and then got arrested when he was at the event.
[00:39:13]  So, I don't know when that could have happened.
[00:39:16]  Number four, the shooting.
[00:39:17]  Eight rounds were fired.
[00:39:19]  Only had one agent in the bulletproof vest.
[00:39:21]  Number five, the shooter was taken down alive, not shot even once.
[00:39:26]  Even though chicho would be the protocol when dealing with an active shooter, especially at an event the president sat at, and the whole line of succession.
[00:39:36]  And number six, the suspect's identity and incident footage were released within one hour.
[00:39:42]  That's oddly fast.
[00:39:43]  Number seven, his manifesto was immediately released.
[00:39:48]  Which is also oddly fast.
[00:39:50]  Number eight, and I like this one.
[00:39:52]  Earlier that evening, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said shots would be fired.
[00:39:59]  Look, there will be some shots fired tonight in the room.
[00:40:02]  Number nine, there's a Fox News reporter who was in the room at the time.
[00:40:07]  And here's an audio of her sharing what Caroline Levitt's husband said to her prior to the shooting.
[00:40:12]  I want to quickly tell you I was sitting next to Caroline Levitt, the press secretary's husband.
[00:40:17]  He was one of our guests, he was seated right next to me.
[00:40:19]  And, you know, Right as the dinner was starting, you know, the national anthem happened.
[00:40:23]  And then he kind of leaned over and said, You know, I watched you on TV, you did a great job.
[00:40:27]  You need to be very safe.
[00:40:28]  And he was very serious when he said that to me.
[00:40:30]  And he kind of looked around the room and he said, You know, there are some.
[00:40:36]  Oh, I guess Fox News cut her off when she started saying she was warned to stay safe that night.
[00:40:43]  That would happen.
[00:40:44]  And number 10, Fox News cut her off when she was saying how she was warned to stay safe that night.
[00:40:53]  Sounds like we lost Aisha's phone there.
[00:40:56]  So, anyway, the point is there's not a single aspect of the White House.
[00:41:01]  Correspondence dinner that can justify anyone wondering if it was staged or not.
[00:41:06]  In a second, I'll offend a lot of people, but first, this is Kash Patel's reaction at the dinner when he heard shots.
[00:41:22]  Maybe CWS $250 million will be worth it.
[00:41:27]  And lastly, the event was traumatizing for some.
[00:41:30]  Erica Kirk could be seen leaving.
[00:41:32]  Very emotional with the severity of the situation.
[00:41:36]  We should be hearing very soon how merch sales went.
[00:41:39]  That's the one that people get offended by.
[00:41:41]  Well, statistically, it'll affirm 80% of people, but those 20% they get very offended.
[00:41:53]  She's not just a grieving widow, she's a touring widow that stepped into the position of a high powered CEO.
[00:42:00]  She made a choice to step into the spotlight and Anyone who chooses to be in the spotlight is subject to public scrutiny.
[00:42:08]  So she's doing those things.
[00:42:10]  She's not just the thing.
[00:42:13]  She's what she did.
[00:42:15]  So there's that.
[00:42:16]  So in conclusion, everything is as it seems.
[00:42:19]  We need a ballroom to forget about the Iraq war.
[00:42:21]  That makes us forget about the Epstein files, all of which distracts us from the government that is installing kill switches in all cars and taking away your privacy rights while giving glyphosate companies complete freedom to kill you with no consequences.
[00:42:34]  And just remember, That same government would never lie to you.
[00:42:38]  Good night.
[00:42:40]  Right.
[00:42:42]  What an episode.
[00:42:44]  Can you believe all this?
[00:42:46]  I am ready for the meteor.
[00:42:48]  I'll tell you what, we need that meteor.
[00:42:50]  Just end all this now.
[00:42:54]  Bond charges red light face mask.
[00:42:56]  It's no secret, and the research is out there.
[00:42:59]  Let me just say there's another report.
[00:43:03]  The four words.
[00:43:06]  Erica Kirk said, leaving the correspondent dinner that'll break the heart of every conservative.
[00:43:12]  I want to go home.
[00:43:14]  Four words they said, gathered.
[00:43:17]  I want to go home.
[00:43:19]  I mean, the moronic press we get today, it's so insulting.
[00:43:23]  Isn't he wonderful?
[00:43:25]  What a comic genius.
[00:43:26]  I love this guy.
[00:43:28]  I love this guy.
[00:43:31]  Your thoughts?
[00:43:33]  I do too.
[00:43:34]  I do too.
[00:43:35]  And, you know, the stuff that he listed is absolutely spot on.
[00:43:40]  It's exactly right.
[00:43:42]  The question is this.
[00:43:45]  So, the one thing that is 100% certain is that this whole thing was orchestrated, planned, and staged.
[00:43:53]  And who were the people who were 100% involved?
[00:43:56]  The Palm Beach Sheriff's Office, because they announced it nine days before, but they also used Masonic code.
[00:44:05]  So, the Masons and British intelligence is in on it.
[00:44:08]  They have a copyright on this shit, they invented it.
[00:44:12]  So the crown is involved.
[00:44:14]  And this was a spectacle.
[00:44:15]  Now, the question is, oh, yes.
[00:44:18]  And the other thing about that I wanted to put in as a footnote so far, I have kind of bracketed out Caroline Leavitt because during the Butler shooting, she'd just given birth to her baby and, you know, baby boy.
[00:44:32]  And I think she was back at work two weeks later precisely because Trump was shot, which showed like a level of personal investment that made me think, you know, she genuinely is supporting MAGA and this idea.
[00:44:46]  When she said, oh, Shots will be fired in this lighthearted, happy way.
[00:44:50]  Her micro expressions didn't seem to show that something nefarious is going to go down.
[00:44:55]  Now, what about her husband now?
[00:44:57]  If this is true, the story about her husband saying that, which has to be verified, by the way, right, then that kind of implies she was in on it.
[00:45:05]  Then let's remember that in the press office, she is tied to Trump's media team.
[00:45:11]  And it's Trump's media team that announced the All Systems Go sign to look for it, Butler.
[00:45:16]  They put out the video about the Horseback rider in New York City at the junction where there are no horseback riders ever.
[00:45:24]  And that was exactly the video that was put out the day the Butler rally was announced.
[00:45:28]  So Trump's multimedia team was involved in Butler.
[00:45:32]  Caroline Leavitt, as a press secretary, is tied to the multimedia team.
[00:45:36]  Now, in her micro expressions, it seemed so innocent.
[00:45:39]  And you can prime somebody to say something because everything, all these sound bites that they put out, they discussed them ahead of time.
[00:45:47]  And there could be an intel plant who said, hey, how about you say shots will be fired?
[00:45:51]  You know, like they have at the L. What's it dinner where they, you know, roast each other, and you could have, you know, she could have been primed to make, you know, to say those things by people around her who are Intel plants repeating it.
[00:46:06]  Now, when her own husband says that, there's only two possibilities she's in on it, or her husband is a fucking Romeo agent, right?
[00:46:14]  And she is being controlled through him, which also is not far fetched at all, given the Intel agency.
[00:46:21]  So, anyway.
[00:46:23]  I don't know.
[00:46:24]  Caroline Leavitt was always so genuine.
[00:46:26]  I have a really hard time thinking that she's a deep state operative, but hey, I can be fooled like the next person, you know?
[00:46:33]  But the one thing that is definitely 100% sure Palm Beach Sheriff's Office was involved in the whole thing, 100% from the start, right?
[00:46:43]  All those people who investigated the Mar a Lago shooting, meaning Secret Service at Mar a Lago, they need to be looked at because the Mar a Lago shooter itself is already bullshit.
[00:46:55]  The Palm Beach Sheriff's Office is involved in that.

=== Drug Use and Control Issues (06:25) ===

[00:46:58]  Now, here, the guy with the canine officer, he is the all systems go sign.
[00:47:05]  I'm telling you, there's always something that the shooter has to look for.
[00:47:10]  Are we pulling back or are we going ahead?
[00:47:12]  And that's the canine officer because his behavior doesn't make any fucking sense, nor does it make sense that you suddenly emerge literally two seconds after somebody averts his gaze from you with a fucking shotgun.
[00:47:25]  How is that even possible?
[00:47:28]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:47:28]  I agree with all that.
[00:47:30]  All that.
[00:47:32]  I don't know if you've seen this latest report, Catherine.
[00:47:34]  I really want to get your response to this because it's rather stunning.
[00:47:41]  Turns out Donald Trump has been using drugs.
[00:47:44]  He's actually a drug addict.
[00:47:46]  It's just shocking stuff.
[00:47:49]  I found it hard to believe when I first heard it, but it makes so much sense.
[00:47:54]  For anyone who doesn't believe Trump is a drug addict, this is written by Elizabeth.
[00:47:59]  As a former drug addict myself, I have to say you're extremely naive.
[00:48:04]  From the first debate with Hillary, I knew as high as a kite.
[00:48:08]  Noel Kassler worked with Trump for years.
[00:48:11]  Trump snowed at Admiral all day.
[00:48:13]  Listen to this.
[00:48:15]  I told him the real deal about Trump that people didn't know.
[00:48:18]  He was an open drug addict.
[00:48:19]  Everyone knew it.
[00:48:20]  None of this stuff was a secret.
[00:48:22]  He was doing Coke on shows 20 years ago when we'd do the VH1 Fashion Awards, and I used to do the beauty pageants with him in the 90s.
[00:48:31]  He was an open drug user, open sexual assaulter, and this stuff was just kind of accepted.
[00:48:36]  And it's not you heard this firsthand, it's you saw this with your own eyes.
[00:48:42]  Absolutely.
[00:48:43]  That's when most of the drug use occurred on The Apprentice when he had to read cue cards.
[00:48:47]  He'd get really nervous.
[00:48:48]  So he'd go in the bathroom, crush up Adderall.
[00:48:50]  He'd come back to set.
[00:48:51]  There'd be white chunks flying out of his nose, white powder under his nose.
[00:48:56]  He's doing the same thing as a candidate and as a president.
[00:49:00]  You know, it gives him a feeling of being in control.
[00:49:03]  But he's clearly an addict.
[00:49:04]  If you know anything about addiction, untreated addiction as a president is the worst thing you could have.
[00:49:11]  So, yeah, he was obviously high that night.
[00:49:14]  That was the same person we saw in The Apprentice.
[00:49:17]  And I remember watching that and like, yep.
[00:49:18]  He's high.
[00:49:20]  And it probably wasn't just Adderall.
[00:49:22]  He did Coke, he did meth, he had drug dealers coming to the after parties selling it to him.
[00:49:27]  Adderall is his maintenance high, it's what he does during the day.
[00:49:31]  When he gets down to Mar a Lago and these other places, he gets into it a little harder.
[00:49:35]  He also uses benzodiazepine, you know, Valium and stuff to come down when he hits it hard.
[00:49:42]  So when you see him slurring and stuff, that's from the Benzos.
[00:49:46]  And, you know, the things I saw, he didn't even hide.
[00:49:48]  So many other people saw this stuff.
[00:49:50]  But imagine what the people are seeing right now in the White House.
[00:49:53]  Do you know what I mean?
[00:49:55]  We got him for an hour a day on Apprentice, a celebrity apprentice, because he barely works.
[00:50:00]  That's the other thing.
[00:50:01]  The guy is unmanageable.
[00:50:04]  You know what I mean?
[00:50:05]  He's not a functioning human being.
[00:50:07]  He barely works.
[00:50:08]  Nine times out of ten, we'd have to cancel that day's taping because he wouldn't show up at the last minute.
[00:50:13]  So imagine the dysfunction and the insanity these people are witnessing at the White House.
[00:50:18]  The GOP leaders that, as you said, are a neighbor.
[00:50:22]  Now, there's a little more to it, too, Catherine.
[00:50:24]  Get this a list of the drugs.
[00:50:27]  This is, I don't know.
[00:50:31]  I already detected, I mean, there's stuff that you cannot check and stuff that you can check.
[00:50:37]  Now, I do remember the Hillary debate.
[00:50:40]  There was no trace of Trump being freaking high.
[00:50:43]  The other thing that exposes like a pathological lie is this guy saying that Trump doesn't work, he's unmanageable.
[00:50:51]  Are you freaking kidding me?
[00:50:53]  Between Butler and And the election in 24, I followed every rally, every single one.
[00:51:00]  The guy did three, I think at some point, four rallies per day.
[00:51:05]  It was insane.
[00:51:06]  He would just get, when he just did like two or three, they would be in separate states.
[00:51:11]  He would do a rally, get back into the beast, drive to a, you know, take a plane, get into the car again, go out there, do a two hour rally.
[00:51:20]  Sometimes it would go on for three, back in, go to the next state.
[00:51:25]  It was insane.
[00:51:26]  I couldn't do this sort of schedule myself.
[00:51:29]  So, to claim that he doesn't work, that is not at all what anybody says.
[00:51:36]  In fact, when I talked to this family friend at Mar a Lago who just happened to be down there, I picked him out, I ran him, didn't know that they were friends.
[00:51:45]  He said the most defining thing about Trump is just how disciplined he is.
[00:51:52]  He said that he was a great friend, like super generous, super kind as a friend, but he was a guy who knew him as a friend and did business with him.
[00:52:01]  And when you did business with him, He changed because he was disciplined.
[00:52:06]  He did not take any bullshit.
[00:52:08]  He would follow everything up.
[00:52:10]  He was on the case, would make the phone calls himself if it involved his friends.
[00:52:15]  And, you know, this kind of like, that's exactly what I see in Melania.
[00:52:19]  She's very meticulous.
[00:52:20]  Also, the thing that Trump said about that he just loves in the first lady is that she's so neat and tidy and meticulous.
[00:52:27]  That's not really the qualities that some, you know, coke snorting dropout values, you know?
[00:52:35]  And besides, how do you run all those businesses that he has built from scratch by being the kind of dropout dope?
[00:52:42]  So the guy who was talking, He sounds like the guy he's describing.
[00:52:46]  Now, the other thing is about the drugs he mentioned.
[00:52:49]  He just rattled down a bunch of drugs, but started with Adderall.
[00:52:52]  Adderall is an ADHD drug that's prescribed for kids.
[00:52:58]  What happens when you snort Adderall?
[00:53:01]  Can you snort it?
[00:53:03]  It's bonkers.
[00:53:03]  And then he's like, oh, yeah, and cocaine and meth.
[00:53:06]  Well, if you start taking meth, stuff happens to your skin.
[00:53:11]  It's very hard to hide.
[00:53:12]  You have wounds on your skin, on your face.
[00:53:15]  You can see it.
[00:53:16]  You can see meth addicts.
[00:53:18]  You can see the changes in their skin when people are addicted to hardcore drugs, especially for years.

=== Snorting Adderall and Cocaine (02:04) ===

[00:53:23]  So, since The Apprentice, are you freaking kidding me?
[00:53:26]  That guy is a phony.
[00:53:28]  He's a total fraud.
[00:53:29]  I think this drug dealer needed some money and he put out this bullshit.
[00:53:34]  But I'm like, no, my friend.
[00:53:36]  The person you're describing is not Trump.
[00:53:38]  I don't believe it for shit.
[00:53:40]  Sorry.
[00:53:40]  I watched Trump at work for far too long to believe a bleeding word of this shit.
[00:53:45]  Sorry about that.
[00:53:46]  I love, Catherine, getting your reaction to these stories.
[00:53:50]  Because we knew he doesn't smoke.
[00:53:52]  We know he doesn't drink.
[00:53:53]  We know he eats a huge amount of fast food like McDonald's.
[00:53:56]  He drinks an unlimited quantity of diet drinks.
[00:53:59]  And I worry about the aspartame, which is reputed to turn to formaldehyde in your bloodstream.
[00:54:06]  My wife drinks a lot of these drinks, and I have worried about it forever.
[00:54:11]  She's dismissive, so is Trump.
[00:54:13]  But what do you think about these diets?
[00:54:17]  I think formaldehyde is known to preserve stuff.
[00:54:20]  If you put stuff into formaldehyde, it lasts forever.
[00:54:24]  That's what.
[00:54:24]  They use in those jars, you know, where they put the brains in the jars.
[00:54:27]  Maybe that's what keeps people alive.
[00:54:29]  For example, Queen Mom, the mother of Queen Elizabeth, was famous for how much alcohol she drank even before 11s.
[00:54:38]  11s is like a snack at 11 o'clock, right?
[00:54:41]  So Queen Mom was like a hardcore alcoholic.
[00:54:44]  Frankly, if you know her family, you know that she had to be just to make it through the day.
[00:54:48]  But look, she lived to what, 101?
[00:54:51]  Maybe it's the ethanol.
[00:54:52]  Maybe it's good for you, you know, if you drink distilled brandy.
[00:54:56]  It's actually good for you.
[00:54:58]  You get preserved.
[00:54:59]  Look, the thing about the US is that it's the biggest non consensual human experiment in how much fast food and sugary drinks and aspartame the human body can take.
[00:55:11]  And the result seems to be a lot more than we ever imagined.
[00:55:15]  So I think Trump and your wife are going to be just fine.
[00:55:18]  You know, if they made it this far, they made it.
[00:55:25]  Oh, my.

=== Ethanol Preservation Secrets (03:59) ===

[00:55:28]  It has seemed to me, if his hypothesis were true, that it could explain why Trump is so inconsistent.
[00:55:34]  You know, one day he's going to bomb Iran to the Stone Age, the next day the war is all over.
[00:55:40]  We got this straight open.
[00:55:42]  I mean, he's so incoherent, Catherine.
[00:55:46]  How do you account for this?
[00:55:48]  He isn't incoherent.
[00:55:49]  It is the art of the deal because this whole thing about, oh, we're going to bomb the civilization into the Stone Age, that's just not Trump.
[00:55:58]  That is negotiation Trump.
[00:56:00]  And I go back to what he said about having that walrus around.
[00:56:03]  What's his name?
[00:56:04]  Oh, God.
[00:56:06]  The guy.
[00:56:06]  Huh?
[00:56:07]  Say it again.
[00:56:09]  Laurie Cohen.
[00:56:11]  No, not that guy.
[00:56:12]  The Walrus, the war hog, the total war hog he had by his side.
[00:56:17]  God, I can't believe the name.
[00:56:19]  Hegseth, the secretary?
[00:56:22]  From the first administration.
[00:56:24]  What was that guy?
[00:56:25]  You know, the guy with the.
[00:56:28]  Bolton, John Bolton.
[00:56:29]  Bolton, thank you.
[00:56:30]  Yes, John Bolton.
[00:56:32]  So when he had John Bolton by his side, he said, well, he didn't really like him as a person, but he was great for business because when he took John Bolton along, All his negotiation partners thought, well, John Bolton is freaking crazy.
[00:56:46]  So if he's allowed to act, he will just annihilate everybody.
[00:56:49]  So you have to be really hardballed, especially when you're negotiating with total nuts or criminals.
[00:56:56]  You know, there is no negotiating with terrorists.
[00:56:58]  You have to scare the absolute shit out of them.
[00:57:02]  And that's what he's trying to do.
[00:57:03]  And he's giving it the carrot and the stick, the carrot and the stick to ratchet to some sort of result, you know.
[00:57:10]  And.
[00:57:11]  Well, did some progress, but we have to wait and see.
[00:57:16]  I'm still confident that they have come so far.
[00:57:19]  If you compare Iran to where it was in terms of how close it is to getting rid of these religious lunatics, they have come such a long way from the 28th of February.
[00:57:33]  So at the end of February, just before this whole thing started, nobody would have thought that the supreme leader is going to be dead a few hours later.
[00:57:44]  You know, and that is a good thing.
[00:57:45]  I mean, if you ask any Iranian, that's a good thing.
[00:57:48]  It really is.
[00:57:49]  You know, they want a Western society, openness, business.
[00:57:53]  They don't want this, the veiled nonsense and the religious dogma, because it's also not indigenous to the Persian Empire.
[00:58:02]  That religion is not their natural religion.
[00:58:05]  That was, I think, Zoroastrianism.
[00:58:08]  So I don't know.
[00:58:09]  If you go back before the 70s, I don't think there's records of the population veiling themselves, you know, or running around in black garb.
[00:58:19]  It's not natural.
[00:58:21]  It was imposed.
[00:58:22]  And I swear it was in some CIA, MI6 skunk works where they dreamt this up because it's just too sickening.
[00:58:29]  It's hostile to life.
[00:58:31]  But anyway, we have to wait and see.
[00:58:32]  We have to wait and see.
[00:58:36]  By the summer, I think we should know how this whole thing turns out.
[00:58:41]  Yes, yes, yes, yes.
[00:58:42]  Well, as you know, I stand with Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Iran.
[00:58:48]  So, you know.
[00:58:49]  I find myself at odds with various parties on various occasions, but I so appreciate you and Bill, Catherine.
[00:58:58]  It's just wonderful to have these conversations.
[00:59:00]  It was a delight.
[00:59:01]  And did you enjoy that take on how we know for sure it wasn't staged?
[00:59:08]  That White House correspondence dinner absolutely was staged, but so was the Mar-a-Lago shooter.
[00:59:14]  But you know, at the end of the day, Melania was terrified.
[00:59:17]  And, you know, here's the key thing that we didn't answer: do I think that Trump was involved or was he not?
[00:59:23]  Thing about the ballroom is yes, they started bleating about the ballroom.

=== Taxpayer Money Corruption Scandal (02:01) ===

[00:59:28]  But then again, the ballroom has been in the works and it was scheduled to be 300 million.
[00:59:34]  Then it looked like they can do it for 200 and now it's still under 400 million.
[00:59:39]  So, and Trump said that that was from donations.
[00:59:42]  He actually raised the money and it doesn't cost the taxpayer anything.
[00:59:46]  So I don't see why he just announced it today that it's going to be still under 400 million.
[00:59:52]  I don't see it's, it's, um, That sum of money is nothing compared to what they give to the military and the intelligence agencies for bullshit.
[01:00:01]  Catherine, let me see if I can find it.
[01:00:04]  But there's a new bill today that includes guess what?
[01:00:11]  A billion dollars for the ballroom.
[01:00:13]  A billion dollars for the ballroom.
[01:00:16]  So that is taxpayers' money at the end of the day.
[01:00:18]  That's going to be now that they want to convert it.
[01:00:21]  And I think for the donors to put the money where it belongs in the Congress person's pocket, you know, to buy influence.
[01:00:34]  Well, you know what?
[01:00:35]  At the end of the day, what the American people need to settle all this is Catherine Austin Fitz's full public accounting so that we can go on your website and track every invoice that was spent on the ballroom or anything else, the leering centers, you know?
[01:00:50]  Full public accounting, live, federal, state, and local level.
[01:00:54]  She already had the platform, you know, up and running.
[01:00:57]  We need that back.
[01:00:58]  Between Catherine Austin Fitz and Bill's proposals itself, we would know where every penny went.
[01:01:03]  If we could expose all the crooks and the corruption.
[01:01:06]  But the crooks and corruption are in charge, so they won't let them do it.
[01:01:10]  I mean, what could be more obvious, Catherine?
[01:01:14]  You're wonderful.
[01:01:14]  Give Bill my warm regards.
[01:01:16]  I so enjoy our conversations.
[01:01:19]  This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Real Deal special with Catherine Horton, Bill Benny, under fire.
[01:01:26]  Thank you for joining us today.