Katherine Horton and Bill Binney dissect the Mar-a-Lago shooting as a staged false flag orchestrated by the alleged "Crown Corporation," a global monopoly they claim controls the CIA, NSA, and British monarchy. They argue the event was pre-announced via coded signals to manipulate public perception, citing inconsistencies like the shooter's disappearance, missing CCTV footage, and absurd weapon loads. While Horton links this to King Charles III's NATO agenda and depopulation plots, Binney highlights FBI incompetence and generational reasoning failures in handling the investigation. Ultimately, the episode suggests these elite networks orchestrate crises to maintain dominance, framing recent geopolitical tensions as calculated moves rather than spontaneous conflicts. [Automatically generated summary]
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Pressure on the Rockefeller Foundation00:02:28
Welcome to another Real Deal special with Catherine Horton and Bill Binney under fire.
Today I have the great pleasure of having Catherine to myself.
Catherine, it's just a delight to see you again wearing my favorite color.
That reddish brown is my favorite color.
And painter's tape.
So I'm in red, white, blue at the moment.
We're renovating.
So there's blue painter's tape.
You get the American flag in this little corner.
A whole lot of crazy things going on in the meanwhile, of course.
Oh, yes.
Hard to know even where to start.
I thought Iran made a totally reasonable idea, you know, this three part cessation of hostilities, end the blockade, both sides, and then do separate negotiation about the uranium business.
They're even, I think, contemplating giving their uranium to Russia.
I mean, I think that's wonderful, but Trump is balking.
And the trouble is the longer he balks, the worse it gets for the world, because Mike Adams is pointing out.
These oil wells are under pressure, and there's a real complication that emerges if they aren't functioning, and it could set in so that they're permanently non functional.
I mean, and that could dramatically reduce the amount of petroleum available to the world, even though there's an endless supply.
I mean, we know it's not a fossil fuel.
You know, I don't know where that myth even originated, but, you know, the Rockefeller Foundation.
It was the Rockefeller Foundation.
Tell me, tell me.
You pick up any way you want.
Then we got this alleged shooting at the Correspondence Club, we can discuss in great detail.
I would love to do that.
I want to get your take on that.
I mean, I would like us to agree, but I don't know where we're going to come out on it.
He's fireworks.
So, where would you want to start?
Well, why don't we do a little bit about the Ukraine thing first and then talk?
Okay.
Give me your thoughts because I think the situation is getting very, very bad.
Hal Turner is pointing out that there's a special substance they need to make computer boards.
You know, I mean, they can't even manufacture computers now because I mean, there's so many concepts and the fertilizer, you know, so they're not planting the crops.
Investing in Rail Travel Redundancy00:10:48
So that a year from now, we're not going to have the amount of food we have.
There's going to be mass famine.
This has got to be brought to an end.
Yeah, so there is going to be pressure.
I guess where we disagree is how much give is in the system.
So, um, It is true that every complex human system kind of expands to accommodate the operating need of the day.
So it expands and contracts around that, right?
So if there's a sudden shock to the system, there's a shortage of anything, or maybe there's for some reason something is not needed anymore.
Either way, it's going to have a shock effect on the system.
And the question is how much shock can a system absorb?
Now, I am absolutely not versed in agriculture enough to know.
If that could be absorbed by maybe American production ramping up.
Because, of course, the other thing to keep in mind is that it's not just the stock market that has, that's hedging its bets and trying to predict the future.
Every major company does the same.
And when there are non linearities, there's huge, very profitable business plans.
So companies actively look, banks certainly do that, and the cabal does it, but every company looks for any opportunity for something that will outperform anything.
That they had so far.
Anything that's steady state will be a very predictable, very little increase in profits.
But because of the printing of money and inflation, they always have to do more, more, more, and more.
So it leads to this like ever faster turning hamster wheel.
Now, what many people don't say is that for big companies, right, who have been around for a long time and they know how it works, any sort of sudden shock is a very lucrative business plan and they go crazy over it because if they manage to make use of that non linearity, the system shock, and provide Something, right?
Then they can suddenly make huge profits and the CEOs are going to look great and their shareholders will be really happy and blah, blah, blah.
So it's not just as simple as to say, oh, well, because this production is not there anymore, we're fucked as humanity, especially when it's like a year ahead of time, because these people can turn on a dime and pull something together in one month, you know?
So I have family members who have, you know, various like engineers and various people who are involved in the, in the, Pulling up of new factories, and they saw how they pulled up entire like clothes manufacturing, anything, tires, chemicals, food, you name it, factories that suddenly had to be moved from a low cost country to an even lower cost country.
So that's when they moved from Thailand to Cambodia or from India to Thailand.
You know, there's like a cascade to ever cheaper, and factories have to be pulled out of nothing, sometimes just somewhere randomly in the jungle.
And it blows one's mind how quickly they can pull up a factory out of nowhere these days.
Because of globalization, they had several practice cycles of this.
So I'm not sure if these models that predict famine are accurate.
I think they might not have factored in greed and the global cabal's ability to make money out of anything.
So I'm not sure.
To be honest, I'm not too worried.
I know that in Germany, they have all these, they have warned the population that they have to stock up for seven days.
I mean, come on.
I grew up in communist Romania where we were in a permanent state of being fucked.
We didn't have water.
We didn't have electricity for most of the day.
And you just pull through, you know?
I mean, you know, the black market ramps up.
And remember that the entirety of Europe is landlocked with everything else in China.
And when suddenly, so what happens is when you don't have a shipping route, you know, truck drivers and truck delivery lines and trains suddenly become massively profitable.
And then suddenly they load everything onto trains and manage, you know, pull through somehow.
So I don't, you know, I don't believe these doom scenarios at all.
I just haven't, they certainly for sure use them to scare the population and to push through all sorts, right?
Because that's the plan.
You have a system shock.
There are huge opportunities.
There are pivot points.
You can bring in legislation.
You can bring in lockdowns again, fuel lockdowns this time, right?
And the global cabal love that.
But how much of that is actually necessary, I don't think it's such a huge shock.
I don't think so at all.
I just don't believe it.
I think we're going to be fine.
And I think all that is happening is that they are using these doom scenarios and these public pronouncements that the entirety of Germany needs to stock up to put pressure on Trump.
So that, you know, because Germany and especially British intelligence is massively invested in all these shithole countries.
They have been shit mixing there for a long time.
They have their business plans, they have their asset stripping plans all lined up for the next 10, 15, 20 years.
And Trump is literally putting a dash through that right now.
He's throwing over the great game, right?
He's throwing over not just the game board, but also the table.
And old Europe is massively pissed with him, right?
So, I just expect a lot of this info to just a lot of crying about how bad it is to just launch just to put pressure on Trump.
But I think this whole thing will be wrapped up very soon.
I mean, he said that several times, but if you look at the scale of the wars we had in the past, this is not Afghanistan.
This is not Iraq.
This is nothing like any of the other wars.
They are now negotiating over weeks, if not days.
The more the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz goes on, the more desperate the other side will be.
And even the Europeans, the more desperate the Europeans will be.
But given what they've been doing the last five years, I would say, fuck them.
Let them be desperate for it.
But this war has far more dramatic economic consequences because the necessity of oil.
I mean, the prices are, inflation is already going up.
I got a list here of like 24 countries, and they're already going on rationing, fuel rationing, some food rationing, blah, blah.
I mean, Catherine, this is unlike any other war because that Strait of Hormuz is such a crucial pivot point.
Economically, fertilizer, these other products besides oil.
I mean, it's really incredibly sensitive economically.
And, you know, I like your thought that maybe we can cope with a food thing.
I'm not as optimistic, honestly.
This is one thing that occurs to me, okay?
I spoke to a professor at Oxford who was actually at the London University, you know, mostly.
He was a professor of engineering and he had visited China.
He was an expert on high speed trains and an expert in all that sort of stuff.
And he visited China and was telling me about how rapidly they were putting up high speed train lines.
And it blew his mind.
The UK couldn't put a motorway or couldn't put a tiny little train connection to take the load of major node points.
And the Chinese would be building thousands and thousands of miles in a month.
So, my question is if it's that desperate, at what point will it be actually worth it?
Europe's well to pay for better train connections.
Because remember, shipping is the cheapest option of transport, but it's not the only one.
Well, you know, China has this Belt and Road thing, you know, that goes all the way to Iran.
I mean, they have the equipment, I've seen it, to drill these tunnels in mountains.
It's phenomenal equipment, Catherine.
It just blows your mind they can do this.
Yeah, yeah, they can do it.
And, you know, all I see is that eventually, if this situation solidifies into anything longer than a couple of weeks, That stuff should take off.
If it doesn't take off, what it actually means, if you don't suddenly see ginormous high-speed rail projects and so on take off, what it means is that the corporate insiders that have all the models and all the true insight of what the economy can take know that this war is being wrapped up.
So sometimes, you know, the evidence is the dog that didn't bark in the night.
So if they are not going crazy about all these alternative transport methods, it's because they know they're like, ah, okay, we're talking another three, four weeks, maybe eight, but then we can bridge that.
No big deal.
And in the process of bridging, we can screw the customers with price gouging.
Maybe that's what we're seeing.
So look for the fundamental business plans.
And then the other thing to give you an order of magnitude idea of what we're talking about in Germany, there was at some point the whole traffic on the road was so bad.
I think it was UPS.
UPS offered the German government to build an entire parallel train system.
The load on civilian train traffic would have been zero.
They would have, they themselves, built an entire parallel train system just to transport the UPS load.
That was worth their while.
And the German government refused.
Well, maybe now the German government snaps the F out of it and, you know, puts the other globalist agenda plans to one side and we actually invest in rail travel so that we have redundancy and we're not just reliant on ships.
So I don't know.
Look, in my experience, every time when they are, you know, talking about these ginormous, Catastrophe or catastrophic scenarios, somebody is trying to extort money.
That's all that's happening.
If you want to know what the world economy, the big Fortune 500 companies truly think, look at where their investments are going.
Are they investing in alternatives?
If they don't, they know and they have their lobbyists, right?
They know so much more than we know more than NSA because they own NSA, right?
So if they don't invest in alternatives, it means they don't need them.
They don't care.
It's going to be fine.
You know, that's my alternative take to put out there.
I'm fascinated.
I love it.
I love it.
Now, there's an intervening event we ought to discuss before we get to the Coruscant dinner.
The visit of King Charles III.
You are perfect to address this now.
Oh, my goodness.
So, what I saw.
Yeah, let's go right ahead.
Mocking King Charles Online00:05:21
Yeah, so, you know, what I saw, if you go on True Social, there's at RealDonaldTrump, which is Trump's official Twitter, and at Il Presidente is Trump's media team.
Put it's the parody account, but that's where they say what they truly think without a filter sometimes, right?
That's where they literally make jokes about uh Michelle Obama being a man, that's where they made in the past jokes about uh Brigitte Macron being a man and slapping her husband around, right?
Now they dial, sorry, yeah, she does appear to be a man, you know, right?
Yes, absolutely, you know, Michelle, she and Michelle Obama, they're both men.
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, the relevance of that is not even, oh, they're not biological females.
So the relevance of that is that until very recently, that was a serious control file.
So it kind of implies that, you know, the president, the black president, having a, you know, being gay and having a transvestite wife and presumably fake borrowed children, that would have changed the election landscape massively, knowing all this.
So the American people were lied to.
And also the French people can choose to be represented.
By people they think represent them.
And maybe this sort of lifestyle, you know, of basically marrying a school student you were teaching is not really a lifestyle that represents France, not even France, right?
So that's it, basically.
But anyway, the point is if you want to know what the Trump team truly thinks, follow at Il Presidente on True Social.
And they have been taking the piss out of this whole visit.
So, you know, basically, King Charles was called, what was it?
It was not elitist, but he was called basically like a pretentious prick.
I think that was the word.
A pretentious prick.
The Trump followers or website was calling Charles a pretentious prick?
Yes.
So the Trump parody account on True Social.
I can bring it up, I think.
Hang on.
So just a recent pronouncement.
So while the meeting is going on, the digital team is going to.
I can make you host by the way, and we could show it, you know.
Yeah, I can show what I mean, and I have to just scroll down to that.
When you find it, I'll make you a host right now.
Yeah, if you can make me host, I can just sort of, if people want to follow this, because, you know, that this, I'm not sure if it's going to be in the National Archives, you know, as official correspondence, but, you know, because they were talking about.
Probably not, but it sounds like it's really good stuff.
It's if you want to have the true inside baseball on what people think, right?
The parody account is the place to go.
And I think it was this screen.
So, yes, love it.
Let me share it with sound.
So, Okay, so can you see True Social here?
Not yet.
Yeah, now I can.
Yes, we can.
Okay, so it's this account and I can blow it up.
It's Il Donaldo Trumpo and the handle is Il Presidente.
So those who are on True Social, if you can see the URL, if I click on this.
Okay.
Okay.
It just went away.
But anyway, this is the official one.
Yeah, go ahead.
This is Donald Trump, the official Donald Trump account.
Right.
So here you have just official stuff about, you know, Elizabeth II, very tame, very tame.
But hang on, let me just pull up the Il Presidente account and actually show you which comments I'm referring to, because I was amazed how openly they were mocking King Charles.
And it kind of showed me that, well, first of all, it's like they don't really.
It's hard to say that they didn't have respect, but it wasn't like a previous state visit.
Let me say it's zines to me, Charles.
Was here for like three reasons.
One was to try to get Trump back into NATO.
You know, he's talked about pulling out of NATO.
Obviously, they don't want him to pull out of NATO.
I think it was a real gentle.
A second, of course, I think was actually mildly chiding him for getting carried away in his role.
You got a king talking about checks and balances that the president not act like a king.
I mean, that was all very ironic.
I think that would have antagonized.
The most devoted Trump committed, you know, which I am not.
I mean, I voted for the guy three times, but he's gone so far off the reservation.
You know how I feel.
You still have stronger feelings and support than do I.
And the third, I think, had to do with maybe not getting carried away with Iran, you know, maybe pulling back a bit and letting the world survive.
I felt those were the three messages Charles was seeking to convey, subtly, subtly.
I want your take, though.
I think you're absolutely right.
Fighting the Global Crime Network00:13:11
And the one thing to realize, and this will, I mean, you know, those, you know me, you have heard this, you know, for a very long time.
Some people, to some people, it might be news, but the king is really a franchise.
The British crown is a franchise of a bigger, much more ancient entity called the crown that also runs the Norwegian crown, the Belgian.
Crown and all these crowns, okay.
So they're really a franchise.
The monarchies are not what we think they are.
They're more like fascinating by itself, Catherine.
You know, yes, it is.
And it goes back to a papal bull in the 30th century basically said, We own all the in the world, we own all the in the future, we own you, your ass, your children's ass, and your soul now and in time.
So basically, right, it sounds like a bunch of you know.
Drunken homosexuals going on a bender and after an orgy, just like, you know, saying, Yeah, we own the world.
Sure.
But it's a real legal document.
It's a papal bull.
And they basically, with that, disowned all the monarchies in Western Europe for sure.
And now, okay, Henry VIII and all that and the Church of England.
But if you look at what's happening, you can ransack the monasteries and you can do a lot of stuff.
But the point is, when you have an ancient network that's much bigger than your network, the ancient network is going to infiltrate and with time wear you down and take you back over.
So networks are the most powerful.
Structure in complex human systems.
Networks survive any one member of the network and they can regroup, right?
And they tend to regroup towards the biggest member.
So, bottom line is, you can think you can detach from the Catholic Church, but you would have to basically kill all the Jesuits, kill all the Masons, get rid of their plants, totally loot the Vatican, destroy the Vatican Bank and all their front organizations.
And when you're done with that, then you're free of the Catholic Church.
If you don't do all of the above, with time, they're going to take you back over.
And that's exactly what happened.
So the crown or the crown corporation or corporation Corona is the corporate structure that runs everything in the world, including the monarchies.
They are more like family businesses of subsidiaries.
It's like your family owns McDonald's, I don't know, next to I 95.
Okay.
And there's many other McDonald's.
It's like that.
So that is the British crown.
Okay.
But the British crown and the crown own the intelligence agencies.
So, when the king rocks up, you know, he called Trump a cheeky fellow, which sounds, I mean, you know, that's King Charles vernacular.
He calls people, you know, a cheeky fellow, an arrogant fellow, a rude fellow.
That's just his way of talking.
But cheeky, it's like, you know, you're mocking them, but you're not quite aware yet of their power.
They own everything under your arse.
They own this country.
They own the intelligence agencies.
They own NSA, CIA, FBI.
They own all this stuff.
You can, within reason, try to wiggle out.
But you have to be extremely clever and use modern tools if you really want to cut the ties to the crown.
So, this whole meeting of King Charles rocking up, it was like, you know, a final polite request to Trump to reel him back into the old Illuminati Crown Corporation Masonic network.
That's what it truly was.
King Charles came and he was very humble and very submissive and he played along and he laughed about all the jokes.
But behind him is the Crown Corporation that's even bigger than the British Crown that has real oomph, okay?
They are the people who signed every single assassination attempt on Trump.
They signed Butler.
They certainly signed James Comey's seashell thing.
That was the yellow eight that was highlighted.
That was Crown Corporation.
If you flip it on its side, it's the infinity symbol, their symbol for eternal revolution.
That's why it was yellow or gold.
That's why it was yellow, right?
Because CC, I'm not sure if it represented gold, like that's where the money truly is.
86 47, assassinate Trump.
Really, that was the symbol.
That's what they indicted.
It was yellow, yes.
That's fascinating, Catherine, all by itself.
And that is, if you have studied the Crown Corporation in old Europe with all their old artwork and so on, when it's signed CC, it comes from the high.
That's like that, that's the Illuminati talking.
That's the company executives talking.
That's the top bloodlines talking, who, you know, who basically used to supply the popes.
It's all those families, Italian families you've never heard of, right?
So if they sign CC, it's coming right from the top.
If you, if you Think you can joke about that, you are a fool.
Now, I'm not saying you have to bow to it, but you have to be aware that you're basically fucking with the biggest organized crime network in the world that owns everything.
They freaking own the oil companies that Trump was dealing with, negotiating with in Venezuela.
So you have to take them at least seriously.
You might have a clever idea of how you pull back your country from organized crime, which I wholeheartedly advise Trump to do.
Don't just get shot for nothing.
Go the full mile, break free from this organized crime, and you have the mathematics of the networks behind you that you will succeed.
The mathematics say you will succeed.
That's why they killed John Nash, because he built a model that proved that.
We're going from the global monopoly of this crown corporation to a multipolar world.
That's what John Nash's model said, the power transition model.
And they killed him before he could say, I'm the author of that.
But anyway, the point, just to finish the final sentence, and I pass it back to you.
This whole thing, King Charles visit, as much as the Trump team jokes about it, they don't know who the hell they're dealing with.
They're not even dealing with King Charles.
They're dealing with a company that is older and bigger than Prince Charles.
And he's basically just the regional manager they sent to talk sense into Trump.
And I hope he ignores them, frankly.
But there we go.
Sorry.
Pure genius.
Wonderful stuff.
Would I be right to think of Zionism as a network?
Yes, but it's a subsidiary.
Remember when I said to you, so we had a discussion, I think it was at that conference down south.
So when we met with Gary King and all the others, and you were talking about the Zionists, and I said, yes, the Zionists are absolutely a part of it.
The Rothschilds, right?
Of course, the Jewish networks, yes, but they are only one because the Jewish networks used to be the money managers, right?
But you have many more people there.
You have the military arm, you have the Jesuits who are.
Catholic.
And basically, I said, yes, factor them in because they're really high level.
Just be aware that at the very top of this network, not everybody's circumcised.
Not everybody's Jewish or American.
So there's like MI6 is factoring in.
Yes, the British crown, all the other crowns and the royal families.
But it's like a much bigger network than the Zionists.
But yes, they are absolutely part of it.
Absolutely.
Wonderful stuff.
Just spectacular.
No, I think you've clearly more clearly explained the crown.
Than I've ever understood it before, Catherine, for which I'm eternally grateful.
That's sensational.
So, here's the real power of because it's in physics, we have models.
You know, when you have the right model, suddenly everything clicks into place and it explains all your data, not just a subset.
The reason why knowing about the Crown Corporation will open your eyes is because I tracked them through art, back through centuries.
I saw their signature.
I mean, my family and I, a number of years ago, we stayed in a French chateau.
And there was like CC and carved above every spectacular stone carved mantelpiece.
And the owner said to me, Oh, that's some 17th century accountant who accumulated this wealth and it's his initials.
And I said to him, No, the CC, if it's his initials, it's coincidence.
And I know that for a fact, that stands for Crown Corporation because the cast iron gate that we came through to come into the chateau had the wiggly lines from the Jesuit logo.
The Jesuits are the Vatican Crown Corporation.
That CC, my friend, stands for Corporatio Corona Crown Corporation.
They owned his shit.
He was just a money manager for them.
It's like when the company logo is embossed on all your stationery and all your buildings.
It's exactly the same.
So, when you know about the Crown Corporation, suddenly a lot of artwork is easy to decode.
You know what they are truly saying.
The crown symbol features in pop songs.
You know, there's whatever, what's his name?
Pitbull.
He's got like international love.
You can see the crown as a flag around the world, blah, blah, blah.
You know?
Catherine, I'd conjecture not a single member of Congress has this comprehension.
Not one.
Absolutely not.
Yeah.
It took me 10 years to put this together, and I benefited from the fact that little Catherine, My parents and I fled communist Romania.
My parents were so desperate to see the world, the stuff that was hidden from them through the Iron Curtain.
They dragged me through all the European countries.
I have seen more cathedrals and art galleries and castles than anybody I know, right?
I've seen it up and down in Europe.
And little Catherine was just cataloging the symbols and looking for patterns.
And when I finally started investigating organized crime and I saw the same symbols, it just went click.
And I thought, hang on, with this model, oh, it makes sense.
And then the only last piece that you need is two facts.
Number one, and I talked about this before, when you have organized crime, it will always outperform businesses of the same size because it's not taxed.
So it will grow faster at the rate of taxation.
That's number one.
Number two, organized crime doesn't have antitrust regulation.
So before you know it, you end up with a monopoly first in one country and eventually a continent and eventually a global monopoly.
That's just how it works.
And if you calculate how quickly that Goes, it's very fast.
So by now, we have a global monopoly in organized crime.
It's just invisible to us.
But that global monopoly, that's the Crown Corporation.
It incorporates the Japanese Yakuza.
They don't know that they work for the Vatican, but they do, right?
The Chinese, they are under the Crown.
You froze, of course.
I think you'll unfreeze.
Straight from systems analysis.
If you just write down the model, it falls out.
Now, what's relevant to you?
Can you still hear me?
Because I got a message.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You froze, but you're fine.
You're fine.
You're fine.
Okay.
I think my internet became unstable.
So here's the thing what do you do with this knowledge?
When you have this model in your mind that there's just one global monopoly, you don't get bullshitted when they start to play both sides and you are looking at their front organizations.
Congress is just a front organization.
The Chinese are just the front organization.
At the top, in the hidden realm, it's all connected and it's one big business.
When you analyze it like that and you realize, oh, it's just different tentacles of the same thing, you know that this beast can just push one thing from one tentacle to the next and it's not going to lose anything.
So the octopus is a good image or icon or avatar.
Absolutely.
And also, the other huge benefit that you have is that you can go back.
Through time, artwork.
I haven't tracked it quite to old medieval stuff, but I tracked it to like the 17th, 16th, and I think even the 14th century.
And the symbols will remain the same.
They're coded, hidden symbols.
This coded language has remained the same, right?
Ever since the 13th century.
It had probably little add ons, but you will recognize the crown, the satanic mocking tongue that's in heraldry when all the little lions stick their tongue out in this funny way and they have tails that look like flames.
It's all the same satanic symbolism, right?
So, when you have learned it and you have artwork where you understand what it means, you can take that vocabulary and plug it in to modern day situations where they use the same coded symbols and you can read their coded announcements to their insiders.
The Project Monarch Conspiracy00:14:48
And they put this out on Fox News.
They put this out on, you know, they own the media.
They will put it out.
The intelligence agencies will sign their false flag operations with this stuff.
And this is why I looked at James Comey's seashells.
I'm like, oh, that's the eight.
The symbol of eternal revolution.
It means cycling, but it's also the crown, CC mirrored, you know, connected by a Templar's cross.
So this was basically a kill order that James Comey delivered that was signed by the crown.
And now a senior manager of the crown corporation just rocked up and visited Trump.
What do you think he said to him?
He was very politely saying, You better join us or we kill you.
But he just put it really nicely.
And the only reply to that is to go to not King Charles, the senior manager of the Crown Corporation, but to King Charles, the man, the family father, and the guy who's trying to save his country and to say, look, Your Royal Highness, the Crown Corporation is not doing very well right now because it's in a process of breakup.
The Crown Corporation will break up into multiple pieces.
That's what John Nash's model basically shows.
We're going from a monopolar.
To a multipolar world.
Nothing can stop this because that's just the system is falling under its own inertia.
Nobody can stop this.
So we might as well get ahead of the curve and basically make the best out of this breakup.
But the old way of doing things with the control files and the, you know, the andrenochrome and the child trafficking, all these old business plans, they will be harder and harder and harder.
And whoever gets ahead of it will make the most money.
It will be the wealthiest country.
It will take off like a rocket, okay?
So basically, if there was a systems analyst like me who can tell them how the structure and the dynamics work, that's what I would have said.
I would have said, both of you, Donald Trump the man and King Charles, were born into this game.
But now there's a phase change.
The old way of just sticking with the Masons and the Jesuits and the Crown Corporation is not what will help you to survive.
What will help you to survive is to get rid of organized crime in your country and unleash the true productive power of your people, as opposed to killing them all.
Because King Charles is still in the depopulation agenda.
He is.
I mean, his people are being killed by these third world immigrants and the vaccines and are being stifled by lockdowns.
That is not an innovative country.
That's a third world shithole.
So the UK is not going anywhere in this phase transition.
It's going down.
You either go up or you go down, right?
Because somebody else is going to move in and take all the resources from you.
So India is going up.
Brazil is going up.
China, if they're smart, is going up, but England is going down fast.
And really, if you look at it in these terms, England, instead of telling Trump what to do and basically the British crown help and MI6 helping to try to kill President Trump, what they should have said is have a sit down, the two of them sit down conversation.
And they should have said, look, neither of us are truly enjoying this shit because King Charles' family was destroyed by.
The control files.
King Charles himself has his old prostitutes on file, the MKUltra slaves who reported about how both his father and him were basically using prostitutes trafficked to them by the Rockefellers.
These were MKUltra mind slaves.
Do you really want to have those private details about your mistresses?
Because from now on with the internet, it's going to be public.
The MKUltra stuff, he has a painting in the city of.
The City of London, whatever guild, one of these guild halls, where he has an MKUltra, sorry, a Project Monarch Butterfly.
You know, the really horrific red painting of King Charles?
It's not just that when you mirror this, you have a Satan image encoded in that painting.
You also have a Project Monarch Butterfly on King Charles' shoulder.
It's like the chip on his shoulder is Project Monarch.
And the reason why it's called monarch programming is because they had to program the royal family's descendants to be psychopathic enough to pull even with the organized crime cartels, natural born psychopaths.
Okay, so this is how all this hangs together, but it's not fun.
Astonishing.
Just astonishing.
Catherine, this is just wonderful beyond words.
Completely brilliant.
Sorry, is it?
Am I back?
You're back, and I was complimenting you in the interval.
I'm sorry, I just knocked the internet by waving my hand.
This is a sensational, Catherine, sensational.
Yeah, I saw that painting, it looks kind of gross.
I mean, it's just a bunch of red, and you got his head.
I hadn't even noticed the monarch symbol, but I mean, wow.
Little black butterfly, but it's very humiliating because it basically shows he has a chip on his shoulder, and that's Project Monarch.
Yeah, he also went through trauma, but well, you know, trauma based mind control of various forms.
His sons certainly did, you know, the murder of their mother that was pretty traumatic.
So, they all have trauma, but it all ties in with this.
It's like a system under free fall that he can't stop, but Trump and him could stop it very easily together.
They could?
Yes, yes, absolutely.
And that's because King Charles is not just King Charles, his actual family runs this stuff in Europe.
So, you have not just the royal families, you have these organized crime psychopaths as well, caked in.
You know, the old Italian families, the really bloodthirsty psychopath, Medici type of families.
Well, they're all together, but King Charles himself is not psychopathic.
You can say a lot of things, but he's not a psychopath.
Now, his other family members are also not psychopaths.
I haven't heard anything bad about the king of Sweden, for example.
They are usually considered the level headed ones.
When the level headed ones club together and you start having the old monarchies of Europe slam the brakes in and turn the engine into reverse, oh, yes, shit changes overnight.
When they say, no, we're not going along with this bullshit anymore, we are cycling out.
Yes, eventually the old Italian families will have to say, okay, right, they basically have the majority vote.
They can move enough shit that we need to listen to them.
You can cycle the system starting with King Charles and President Trump.
And if I could just download my knowledge into Trump's head and King Charles' head, they could see how this would be possible.
Because right now we have something that's called a pivot point in systems analysis.
A pivot point.
And pivot points are extremely rare.
Once in a generation, once in a century, maybe.
It's like one of these once in a century pivot points.
So they could use it and create more wealth than Europe and North America have ever known or the world has ever known.
But we need to cycle out of this depopulation.
We need to kill each other, bullshit.
You know, that's basically what it is because they are destroying the true ingenuity in this depopulation in the COVID vaccines.
They killed a bunch of boy and girl geniuses.
China is producing every year a certain number of geniuses.
We're missing out if we're killing our own.
Come on.
They killed John Nash, Aaron Schwartz, and a British guy called Gareth Williams, three math geniuses.
I'm trying to save Bill's life, right?
He's a math genius, but there's only so many in a generation.
And they killed three.
That's like a cull of geniuses that has done untold harm to my generation.
So that is the executive summary, Jim.
Don't you think you are now?
Brilliant, Catherine, is totally brilliant.
Now, how did the death of Diane figure into this?
My understanding, Prince Philip directed because she was pregnant with a Muslim child and they couldn't have that to interfere with the family bloodline.
Is any of that correct?
I think so.
I think she was murdered because of vanity and they didn't even care about repercussions.
It was like dominance display towards the Muslim countries.
It was like an ego thing, you know, because she didn't just run off with an English lord, which they might have stomached.
She just ran off with somebody from another country.
That's beyond the pale.
I believe she was already pregnant.
Yeah, I have possibly.
I don't have enough knowledge about that, but she for sure was executed by the Illuminati.
And I think David Icke does a really good analysis about all this stuff.
She actually survived the automobile accident virtually unscathed, and they put her in an ambulance, sedated her, and beat her so badly with internal injuries for about an hour.
When they delivered her, she was unsurvivable.
Yeah, I think that's correct.
I didn't.
I think that's right.
She was an inspiration to the world.
Yeah, she was a true jewel.
Got this dog Camilla with him.
My goodness.
Awful.
Well, you know, the thing is that, you know what, the crown, the British crown has become extremely decadent.
Now, my family has ties to aristocracy, the asset stripped one, right?
And the one thing that we knew in the aristocracy in Eastern Europe is that we were never about, you know, bling and, you know, suarez and, you know, sashing about and just, you know, making small talk, right?
Aristocracy was.
Always a defense installation.
It was the people with education and brains when shit hit the fan, you were the front line.
So, back in the medieval ages, kings and the aristocrats used to ride into battle and they earned their spurs, right?
And the whole, what's it called?
The Order of the Garter rose out of that.
But the members of the Order of the Garter, they won battles with their own freaking hands.
Yeah, yeah.
And swords.
That's yes.
It is a world apart from what the British.
Aristocracy is now okay.
There's a modern version of this.
You can make you know your lords and ladies to be your industrialists and the scientists and the brains of your country.
You can have the modern equivalents, right?
But but you have to be aware you are a defense installation when you forget that.
And I think Prince Charles has forgotten it, unfortunately.
Uh, you're fucked because there's nobody else who can you know supply that role.
Nobody has the the the multi generational view, this kind of destiny mode thinking and upbringing.
And you either get it or you don't.
Now, I got it.
I still got it from my aristocratic grandfather, right?
My family gave me this.
So I think in these terms of multiple generations, sort of thing, and nation states.
And, you know, one of the things I was quite amused because once I made this point that the Hungarians as a nation are 1,000 years old.
In the year 2000, they had their 1,000 year anniversary.
So this year, the US has its 250th anniversary.
So, my people are four times as old just as a nation state.
Right.
Right.
So, when you're thinking in that terms, they can look down on us because we were asset stripped during communism and all that.
But ultimately, communism was again an asset stripping business plan of the Crown Corporation, of this organized crime cartel.
Right.
And this crime cartel is currently asset stripping King Charles in his domains.
So, he could take it from us that you better cycle out, you don't go along with your captors.
You have to fight back at whatever the cost.
That's the truth.
Right.
And I think Trump understands it instinctively.
And that's what he started doing with the US.
But King Charles, well, fuck me.
I hope he does understand that maybe one day.
Charles has never impressed me in any way, shape, or form.
No, I don't see any virtues in the man whatsoever.
Yeah.
I think he was, you know what?
I always thought it was heartbreaking that the British press referred to Prince Andrew, out of all people, as the Queen's favorite son.
I find it disgusting when parents have favorite sons.
Now, look at how Prince Andrew turned out, right?
Now, I think King Charles is a huge step up from Prince Andrew, but I think the real disadvantage is that he lived a very cushioned and protected life and he could never really grow in battle and grow in hardship.
Yeah.
Now, maybe that's going to come now if he wakes up and realizes how his country, his domains are being basically devastated by an invading army.
That my people, by the way, kicked out of Europe.
And to honor that, the church bells are being rung at noon every day in commemoration of all that, right?
So kicking out the Muslims, right?
So, hey, we remember it.
My people remember it.
But he thinks he can mess with this stuff.
He thinks he can flirt with other ideologies that are a death cult even worse than what he got initiated into.
And I don't think that's the case.
So there we are.
That's the inside baseball, as far as I can tell.
Oh, Catherine, that was utterly sensational, and it's almost trivial by comparison to talk about this correspondent thing.
Oh, very good.
I want your take.
Because, I mean, to me, this is a completely staged event.
Trump was in on it, knew exactly what was going to happen.
His polls are falling, falling, falling.
The war is unpopular.
Nobody likes a ballroom.
Historically, when there's been an attempted assassination on a president, the Public has rallied.
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I don't think it's happening here.
We got Lindsey Graham now saying the public ought to pay for the ballroom because it gives more security for a guy who's off on a golf course where anyone could take him out with a high caliber rifle from a thousand yards away for crying out loud.
So, you know, and everything about it was phony.
You had his press secretary saying in a conversation, there'll be shots fired tonight.
You got the guy running down the hallway.
No security, no outside perimeter.
He could have been shot at any point.
You got a guy there who could have tripped him, just stuck out his foot and tripped him.
They claim he fired shots.
There's no indication on the wall of any shots having been fired.
Next thing we know, we see him lying naked.
They take Vance, the vice president, out before they get around to Trump.
I mean, and then Trump's lurking behind the curtain looking at what's going on out there.
Catherine, this is shabby.
I mean, of all the false flags I've investigated, this is as amateurish as they get.
Yeah, so here's the thing because yes, it was a false flag or it was an Intel op.
Let's call it an Intel op because I will get to it because, and this one was announced.
It was actually announced to my face.
I just wasn't even smart enough to put one and one together.
Okay.
Now, when was it announced?
It was announced the week prior on 16th April 2026 in Mar a Lago.
The exact thing was announced because remember how last time we talked about Me driving to that event, the We the People Gala, and then the police officer from Palm Beach Sheriff's Office, who just happened to shoot the Mar a Lago shooter, collapsed.
And there was all this noise and commotion.
Now, let's zoom out, right?
And sometimes the cabal announces stuff, you know, what's it called, literally.
And you have to decode it by looking at the literal things of what happened.
Because at Mar a Lago, it was a police officer who collapsed.
But another way of looking at it is because he shot the shooter.
A shooter went down at the gala dinner.
Get it?
So it was announced.
And I told you at the time that police officer collapsing in this Leslie Nielsen naked gun style of collapse with shattering gas going on for like five minutes and it's still shattering.
I was like, this is bullshit.
Okay.
This is bullshit.
It means something else.
Right.
But I also thought the Mar a Lago shooter was already bullshit.
We have no evidence in the public domain apart from one picture.
That shows a shotgun and a gas canister on black tarmac.
I'm sorry, the main drive to Mar-a-Lago is white tile.
I have to check if the next lane up, what they might call the North Gate, which is really an East Gate, but it's north from the East Gate, if that's the Black Tarmac where they had it.
But anyway, you just have one picture.
Give us some CCTV for crying out loud.
Give us some more.
That shooter just disappeared into fog faster than Thomas Crooks and the others.
So the Mar-a-Lago shooter was bullshit and staged.
The PBSO police officer was bullshit and staged.
But all that led up to the announcement of a shooter going down at a gala dinner.
And lo and behold, a week after, a shooter is going down at a gala dinner.
Right.
And the reason why I say it was announced is because everything else, the sniper's nest was announced.
You know, Butler was announced three months and three days before.
And in hindsight, I found the announcements and I can line it up exactly.
And I can write an entire report for the day when the Secret Service will stop stonewalling me, you know.
But the thing is, OK, it was staged.
The other thing that you have to notice about this guy, when you look at his weapons, okay, he had a handgun, but again, you have like a freaking shotgun.
I think I counted the number of rounds.
It was like six.
You are going to run into a Secret Service checkpoint with six rounds in your hands.
Come on.
Once you're carrying a shotgun, carry something else.
Like stick a 3D printed magazine on that.
Take something.
An Uzi.
An Uzi.
Yes, something.
Right down the hallway, and you don't see any shotgun.
You don't see any handgun.
You certainly don't see his assortment of knives.
I mean, it's all written.
And he's supposed to be a Caltech graduate, Catherine, a graduate of Caltech who's got a clean record.
This is just absurd on its face.
Nothing adds up.
And you know what I love is, even as the event was still cooling down, we had reporters who were saying the things that don't add up here, and they were going A, B, C, D, E.
I mean, it was.
It was just wonderful because I've spent these last like 30 years devoted to exposing this shit.
And here it was like people are understanding it now.
They're picking it up.
I loved it.
Exactly.
And I think we should really dive in.
And what we should do is we should write a master report on everything.
You know, I wanted to do a write up about Butler and what I found the announcement and go through it and literally just like, you know, turn it into a freaking book because the FBI is not going to write a report like that.
I put it out online, but really collate it.
But anyway, yes, the shooting was total bullshit.
And also, who the sweet fuck takes knives to a gunfight?
Okay.
How does this fit into the broader scheme of things?
Okay.
Here we go.
Now, the thing is because, yes, I saw that JD Vance was ferreted out instantly.
And people said, yes, but he's younger.
He hopped up immediately.
But still, you first protect the president.
You go in, you get his ass up, and you also get most of the security around him, right?
Blah, blah, blah.
He was just sitting there at the table when everyone else was being cleared away.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Yeah.
The other thing is, you know, the Secret Service of the First Lady, because Melania, she looked genuinely shocked.
I could see her face.
That was genuine.
She didn't know what was going on.
I don't think Trump even knew what was going on, to be honest.
He was just distracted because if you listen to recordings from inside the room and having been to a gala dinner, just the noise, you know, when you go to an indoor swimming pool and the walls just reflect everything and all the conversations, and it's just like this.
Very high level of noise.
Well, these gala ballrooms are the same.
It's like an indoor freaking swimming pool.
You can't even hear the person next to you.
You have to shout and you come home with a hoarse voice like I did last Thursday, you know, that Thursday.
But when you hear the audio recordings, it genuinely sounds like a tray, one of these like trolleys falling down or maybe hopping down a bunch of stairs or something, you know, being knocked repeatedly against the wall.
It doesn't really, with this noise pedestal, it doesn't sound like shots in the ballroom.
Nobody reacted.
They reacted to the Secret Service storming in.
So that's the thing.
Now, the other thing about the audio in the ballroom, The way they filed, the prosecutor filed it, there's already freaking errors in the filing against the shooter because they claimed there were five shots or that the US Secret Service fired five shots.
Not they freaking didn't.
They fired four.
You could hear it.
There was one high powered something going and then there's tack, tack, tack, tack.
Sounds like whatever, a glock, you know, service glock, something like that, right?
So it was four shots from the Secret Service and one shot's fired.
That kind of tallies with what they said.
But they said, oh, this guy fired one.
Round and then Secret Service responded with five.
No, they didn't.
It was four.
The shit matters when you're doing the forensics and you're peeling the bullets out of the wall.
So who fucked up?
This is the main filing.
All right.
So there's all this incompetence everywhere.
But also keep in mind that what the Secret Service and the FBI and government are struggling with is that we have an entire generation of staffers who are millennials or even worse, Gen Z, and they genuinely don't know shit.
At Oxford, when we had the top creme de la creme, every year got dumber and dumber, and we had a harder time to get them to the starting courses that they could even follow it or that they could even reason, that they could do deductive and inductive reasoning and all that.
So, what I see is this generational incompetence in the people who actually do the groundwork.
Okay, so that all that is caked in.
Now, the thing about how close it actually was, when you have these big open halls, even when it's the floor below, there was this.
Big open like staircase leading down, I think, into the ballroom.
And I don't think the shooting and this were on the same floor.
I still have to see.
They weren't.
He was on the lower floor.
He wasn't even on the right floor.
But wasn't he on the upper floor and the ballroom was going down?
No, I think it was the other way.
I think it was underneath.
He was below, I think.
He was below.
Okay.
So all this, I want to know all this.
I want to know every last fucking detail, right?
So you just go through and find, but either way, he was not on the same floor.
So it's not as close as it sounded like.
Felt like the other thing is when you look at how many Secret Service agents streamed into the room, which is truly what freaked people out, how many snipers were going in, like really the whole armed division, right?
So, and how many people stormed the area where the CCTV recorded the shooter running through.
There was enough Secret Service.
I agree with Sean Curran.
They caught it.
But the real question is what's the FBI doing?
Because I can prove this was an FBI.
The FBI is announcing the FBI controls the Palm Beach Sheriff's Office traditionally through the Masons, blah, blah, blah.
But it's the FBI that controls the police.
The police did all the bullshit with the Mar-a-Lago shooter, and it's the FBI's fault that all this happened.
And there's so much more.
Somebody floated, I have to check it, but somebody floated the, I don't know if it's true or not, that this shooter was also a driver temporarily for, what's her name, Savannah Guthrie, whose mother, Nancy Guthrie, was kidnapped.
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And that his wife is still working.
Is that true?
I don't know.
I haven't picked that up yet, Catherine.
Listen, listen, listen, listen.
This has just been sensational.
And I think somehow your study of complex systems and physics and modeling enables you to study complex systems and politics and modeling.
Because what you've been describing here is pure genius.
I mean, Catherine, I've got to say, I'm just blown away.
This is just so wonderful.
I can't begin to tell you.
I'm just very, very happy to have this conversation with you tonight.
So, I got to say, everyone, this is what happens when you have a real deal special conversation with Bill Binney and Catherine Horton under fire.