Don Grahn, Joachim Hagopian, and Brian Davidson dissect U.S. negotiations in Islamabad, alleging American negotiators presented Israeli demands to Iran while Pentagon planners ignored modern space-based warfare paradigms. They assert Prime Minister Netanyahu obstructs peace for a "Greater Israel Project," fueled by Palantir surveillance, and claim the Butler assassination attempt was a staged ritual. The hosts further argue Mars missions are deceptive engineering impossibilities, the COVID-19 pandemic erased historical memory, and $10 trillion in U.S. wars on behalf of Israel justify mainstream media's false claims about weapons of mass destruction to facilitate a "one world government." [Automatically generated summary]
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Pentagon Space Surveillance Blindness00:11:04
Welcome back.
This is Truth versus News Incorporated.
Here we go.
And a lot of things happening here on the 26th of April, 2026.
And boy, we were sharing it and it needs to be shared everywhere because the world needs to get what the world is not getting in the news here on Truth versus News.
So go ahead, Jim.
I guess we got Colonel McGregor.
Yeah, thank you.
Indeed.
That Colonel is.
Perhaps the wisest commentator on these geopolitical issues of them all.
This cleaner is insane.
It removes baked on oven grease, black mold, and years of soap.
Realize the greater.
Love it.
Love it, Bob, sir.
Sit.
Easy.
Knock it off.
Holding.
Oh, boy.
We're going to.
Known as aggression with no complaints from the American people.
Sadly, we have become accustomed to living with the illegitimate.
From your perceptions, did the American negotiators in Islamabad a week and a half ago negotiate on behalf of the United States or on behalf of Israel?
That's a loaded question, Judge.
I think we have to say that there was no negotiation because ultimately we had the Iranians that showed up with a contingent of almost 70 people armed with all sorts of data, information, analyses because they fully expected a negotiation to occur.
Instead, what they got was a team from the United States that presented Mr. Netanyahu's demands to them.
And they can't accept those demands.
And I think that's been made pretty clear.
And while there was some discussion about the enriched uranium, ultimately the outcome was simply no, we cannot conform to your expectations.
And our expectations are Mr. Netanyahu's expectations.
So frankly, I think the answer is pretty clear.
We negotiated on behalf of Israel.
If Donald Trump comes to his senses and enters into some kind of an agreement, say along the lines of the JPCOA, which he condemned as a private citizen and literally ripped up in his first term, would Netanyahu try to wreck or disrupt such a peace plan so as to continue the war?
Because without it, he has no political ground on which to stand.
Well, I think Mr. Netanyahu regards this as an all or nothing proposition.
In his estimation, and I think in the estimation of the people that surround him, this is Israel's best shot at removing what Israel considers to be its most serious threat and, more important, its most serious obstacle to their domination of the entire region.
Now, why do they feel that way?
Because they have essentially unconditional total control of U.S. military power in the region.
I think the CENTCOM commander, who's now Admiral Cooper, His predecessor was Kerrilla.
These men have fallen all over themselves to ingratiate themselves with Mr. Netanyahu, understandably, since that's ultimately the man that is calling the shots in the region.
So I think Mr. Netanyahu's view is either I make this work, I realize the greater Israel project, it becomes real as a result of destroying Iran, or we in Israel are going to have a tough time surviving in the region.
And I think he's probably right because you can't call all of your neighbors subhuman or criminals and then expect to get along with them when the war stops.
And I think that's his position.
So, yeah, I think he's in this to the bitter end, and he's going to do whatever he can to obstruct any sort of arrangement that brings this conflict to a close.
Were you struck by the language chosen by Prime Minister Netanyahu at a press conference after that negotiation was over when he referred to Vice President Vance as reporting to him as other administration officials do daily?
Do you think that was just a turn of phrase or revealing something deeper that we should know about?
I think it was more likely a Freudian slip.
Because remember, he went on to elaborate and say, Well, I hear from everyone in the government in Washington on a routine basis, practically every day.
They all report.
I think he's telling you the truth.
And, you know, when he tells you the truth, you should pay attention because we don't hear the truth that often from him.
So on this particular occasion, I think he very definitely is telling you what's real.
Before the war began, most Americans probably had never heard of the Strait of Hormuz.
It was functioning properly and commercially.
Now, of course, it is the center of the conflagration here.
How could Pentagon planners not have foreseen what would become of the Strait of Hormuz, how Iran would use it as a chokehold to resist American aggression?
Well, Judge, I don't know that they didn't realize that.
You know, I've got to go back 20 years.
But if I go back 20 years, I can identify lots of plans connected with potential operations against Iran.
And all of those plans were written with an understanding that, first of all, if you were going to try and employ ground troops, you were probably on your way to the loony bin because the various routes of entry and points of invasion and so forth were troubled with mountain passes and lots of choke points, about 300 different points in time and space.
With bridges and so forth that you had to give up on the notion of going into the country very far, unless your only objective was to occupy Kuzestan, which was ultimately what Saddam Hussein tried to do.
That's those are the oil fields.
But otherwise everything revolved around targeting and trying to induce the Iranian government to comply.
But most of these plans were developed before there was the full realization of how profoundly warfare had changed.
I don't think a lot of people in the Pentagon Or the Department of Defense and the planners at the top were completely aware of how lethal the connection would be between space based surveillance and the persistence surveillance that results and the instantaneous communication of targeting information to hundreds of different strike systems, manned and unmanned, all kinds of missiles, and the pinpoint accuracy with which they would be launched.
I just don't think people realize that they should have figured it out.
By watching what emerged in eastern Ukraine when General Sorovikin established the initial defense against which our forces, the NATO forces that had been trained by us in Ukraine, tried to attack and failed miserably, but they didn't do it.
So I think, in fairness, that particular item was not fully appreciated.
I think they still thought, well, we have bases in the region, bases in the Persian Gulf.
We're close enough, we can amass enough firepower that we can enter and leave without too much interference.
I don't think they understood the implications of the military development inside Iran.
So, you could say we grossly underestimated them, but I think we missed this paradigm shift in warfare.
Colonel, I'm going to put a number up on the screen.
It shows the number of subscriptions that Judging Freedom has.
As you can see, we're eight, eight away from the landmark number of 750,000.
I'm sure it will happen while you're on air with us and how fitting and appropriate that is.
Chris will let us know when we reach that.
You have often expressed admiration.
For the professionalism of some IDF officers with whom you interacted.
But how could, again, Pentagon planners have brought themselves to accept this Mossad and Netanyahu offered plan that bombs alone and missiles alone would result in regime change?
Yesterday we interviewed Joe Kent.
You know who he is.
He told us everybody in the government, the American government knows.
The Israelis exaggerate and are full of themselves.
Well, this is true.
And I'm not necessarily saying that about all of the senior officers that I met because large numbers of them were very balanced people.
I also happen to know that many of them were removed and replaced by others.
And I think we have to understand that since the ground force option was off the table from the very beginning, at least insofar as invading Iraq is concerned, that all of the strategic and operational planning from that point forward was done.
By the air power community, and that by that I mean Air Force officers and naval officers.
Very little attention was paid to the use of ground forces anywhere, but potentially within the framework of the Persian Gulf.
So I don't think it's entirely surprising because the air power community takes it as an act of faith that if they're allowed to attack with air aircraft and missiles long enough, they can win any war that you want them to fight.
They really truly believe that, and they'll point to anything, whether it was successful or not, and try to.
Claim credit for having won the war, surely with the use of air power.
So, I don't think that's the issue.
I think the larger issue is back to what you said.
They didn't really understand what they were up against, that the enemy they thought they were going to fight turned out to be very different.
And that's essentially what happened to us, I would argue, in many places, including Vietnam.
You know, if you read the intelligence reports and the assessments of the Germans before we landed in Normandy, we depicted the German army as on its last legs.
We expected to get much further, much faster than we did.
And as a result, when we went to Okinawa, we used far more forces than we did at Normandy because we recognized that we'd underestimated it.
So, you know, I wish I could give you a better answer, but I think we just miscalculated and underestimated.
I think, of course, the Colonel's right.
Staged Wars and Diplomatic Failure00:13:23
He subsequently suggests that the best way for this to be solved is for Trump to cease the engagement on grounds of humanity that the rest of the world is suffering.
Too severely to continue the engagement, which he might continue later, and to step back.
Meanwhile, he's taking the opposite approach, ordering the Navy to fire on mine lane vessels in the Strait of Hormuz.
Military tensions are rising again, one of the world's most critical waterways.
Debate is heating up in Washington over justice, accountability, and political strategy.
And new warnings suggest the U.S. may be facing a different kind of threat from abroad.
So, what ties these stories together?
Each reflects a balance between power, responsibility, and how decisions at the top shape global stability and public trust, about which McGregor is so brilliant.
Meanwhile, CENTCOM says a third carrier has arrived, warning that Iran, the clock is ticking.
US Central Command said Thursday the USS George H.W. Bush had arrived in the area of responsibility in the Middle East.
Making it the third U.S. aircraft carrier in the region amid growing signs the very fragile U.S. Iran ceasefire may collapse.
Nimitz class carrier USS George H.W. Bush sails in the Indian Ocean in the U.S. Central Command Area Responsibility April 23rd, CENTCOM said in a post on X. Joaquim, your thoughts, my friend.
Have we got him?
Can we lose him?
Brian, go right ahead while Kino catch up.
Your thoughts.
Well, I mean, McGregor is absolutely right.
Netanyahu is definitely driving the strategic objective.
I mean, it's clear that Israel sees this as an all or nothing battle, and that's what's directly tied to the Greater Israel Project and the future expansion.
Of the borders.
And so, you know, I don't care if Iran shows up with 70 highly tuned diplomatic officers or not.
We're a bunch of clowns and we're the zookeepers and we don't care what you have to say.
We've got our agenda and we're going to do it however we want.
But McGregor is absolutely right about the U.S. misreading the battlefield.
I mean, look, we are always going to lean on old war plans and we haven't exactly.
Figured out how to fight on the ground in the desert.
And this is what's becoming one of the largest problems in this entire battlefield.
Is because if it's true that we're really there to change out the regime, but we can't access the nation and keep a continued presence there in order to establish a newer government, then we're going to be stuck with precision strikes as our only option.
And that's going to put us in a position where Iran just simply has to hold out.
Over the long haul, and their holding out causes global geopolitical damage to the structure.
And that's how they're going to make sure that America is defeated in the long run.
But why is America fighting it anyway, is the question.
Well, the answer is obviously because Israel has us by the short and hairies when it comes to their ability to destroy political structures.
Now, is Israel listening?
Damn right they are.
They're listening to Pete Hex's conversations and they're probably listening to JD Vance's conversation and Thomas Massey's conversations.
And for all I know, they're listening to my conversations.
Israel has done a very, very good job getting their people into position with all these software tech companies in a situation where there's going to be listeners planted all over the place.
And so whether or not our guys are reporting to them, it doesn't seem that we've got the ability to avoid their.
Nuclear surveillance option, anyhow, because they're embedded in so many softwares such as Palantir and others, which are population control mechanisms one way or another.
Back to the idea that McGregor is bringing up, which is it's an absolutely false assumption that air power is somehow going to be the dominant issue in this particular battle.
I would argue you don't need air power.
So it's funny because if Iran is such a sophisticated, forward thinking nation, why is it that they can't access the internet?
Well, they might have some internet capability, but if they want to listen to any American publication, they got to go through.
VPN tunnels all over the place.
And the answer is very simple.
It's a two way door.
If you open the door, you're going to let the enemy in just as much as you're going to allow the local geopolitical issues to start influencing the population in a way that they might not support it.
So I'm with Iran on the way that they're choosing to go about this.
But I want to remind them that if I'm going to give Iran any advice at this particular point in time, I'm going to say, Look, Lavrov and Russia showed up to the show all ready to talk and all ready to have serious talks.
And it became a joke because we just simply installed puppets and do what we need on behalf of our partners.
And at this point in time, I'm going to argue that our partners are a strategic control of Middle Eastern corridors that includes the expansion of Israel into the greater Israel project.
And I would also argue.
That was the plan all along.
It wasn't because they were the chosen people.
It wasn't because they were biblically whoever blesses you, I will bless Mike Huckabee, you idiot.
Of course, of course, it was more about strategic centered control of important trade routes and access between the Middle East, China, Europe, and Africa.
What's right smack in the middle?
Israel.
So, why are we doing it?
We need to be able to protect our asset in the Middle East.
Why is Israel doing it?
Israel looks at us in terms of their survival structure that's in place.
It all makes sense to me why we won't negotiate and show up like pros getting ready to do diplomacy because this was all staged up a long, long time ago to go this way.
What came?
Well, with all due respect to my colleague I went to school with at West Point, Colonel McGregor, you know, because he's right on, but I disagree with him and you guys that.
They underestimated everybody in power in the United States government, underestimated the power of Iran.
I don't buy it.
We just saw last June the power of Iran in action.
They kicked the ass of America and Israel.
We already knew they were sophisticated in their advanced technological weaponry.
We already knew this.
We could have predicted all of this a long time ago.
The bottom line is Netanyahu, just like pedophile Trump, they know they're going to fucking jail.
And so they only can stay in power by doing war.
And we go back to the Freemasons and all the way back.
You know, this World War III Zionist versus Islam has been plotted centuries ago.
So there's nothing surprising.
About this, that ooh, Iran's so much stronger than we thought.
Shut up.
No, that's not true.
I knew it all along, and I know that you guys did too.
So I don't buy it.
I don't buy it.
They have all the technology, the intelligence, everything, surveillance up the yin yang to know how advanced the war making machine within Iran was.
That they have all these cliffs and stuff, and then the underground facilities open up and they do the launcher.
They have all that.
They knew their missile and drone.
Arsenal was a mile long that surpassed every Western power.
You know, so, you know, it's all been predicted.
It's all staged, all of it.
There's no mistake here.
The America has to go down, and that's what's happening along with Israel.
So, yeah, the, you know, to just keep saying that, oh, they just misjudged, I don't buy it.
I don't at all.
There's so much evidence to indicate they knew exactly what Iran cards held.
Just based on last June, we knew it.
You know, and a lot more information we had about Israel's capability to wage a war.
I mean, the whole idea of going there was without any kind of strategy.
There was no strategy.
You know, Netanyahu basically ordered Trump, you know, and.
But, like I say, it was all ordained from the power brokers a long time ago that this war would unfold in a World War III endgame scenario.
So, no surprise, no surprise.
Yep, here we are getting our ass whipped again.
Meanwhile, China urges nationalists to exit Iran immediately, sign security risk.
Jordanians wonder if it's time to kick the U.S. troops out.
Afghans stranded in Qatar expressed betrayal at Trump's push to send them to the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Meanwhile, Paul Craig Roberts observes Washington chose wars for Israel instead of health care for the American people.
According to research at Brown University's Watson School of International Public Affairs, Washington's 21st century wars on behalf of the Zionist agenda of Greater Israel have cost American taxpayers about $10 trillion.
25% of the U.S. national debt, that interest cost of which is appearing $1 trillion annually, is a price imposed on Americans by Washington fighting Israel's war for Israel.
The $10 trillion cost consists of the cost of the post 9 11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, and elsewhere, total about $8 trillion.
That does not include future interest costs on borrowing for the war or the mounting costs of the war on Iran.
The cost of caring for most 9-11 war vats will reach between $2.2 and $2.5 trillion by 2050, most of which has not yet been paid.
The American people had no stake in these wars.
The Zionist, zeal conservatives, and prostitute media disguised the wars as a war on terror.
like Trump's fault claim of Iranian missiles.
We had the Bush regime's fault claim of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, the image of a mushroom cloud going up over an American city.
We had President Obama's false claim that Assad had used chemical weapons against his own people.
We had numerous false claims about Gaddafi, Osama bin Laden, Afghanistan, a quarter century of endless lies justifying wars for Israel.
The Republicans represent Israel.
The Democrats represent immigrant invaders and the sexually perverse.
No one represents Americans except Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey.
And at Israel backing, Trump has targeted both to be excluded from the House of Representatives in the future.
Bankrupting America Through Global War00:14:19
Meanwhile, get this.
Antiwar.com observes.
The cost of the Iran war is not included in the Pentagon's $1.5 trillion budget request.
The cost of the U.S. war with Iran was not included in President Trump's request for a massive $1.5 trillion military budget for 2027, according to a Pentagon budget official.
His budget was formulated honestly before we went into conflict with Iran.
The Pentagon's acting chief financial officer said to reporters on April 21st, according to USA Today, the record shattering budget is a nearly 50% increase over this year's $1 trillion budget.
But the Trump admin is going to ask Congress for even more military spending to make up for depleted weapons and other military operations related to the Iran war, and no doubt supporting Israel in its attacks on Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis.
And the Ukrainians upon Russia.
Meanwhile, get this a Yale professor defines elderly Americans as the new class enemy.
A Yale professor of law and history, Samuel Moyne, has resurrected and redefined Marxist class conflict.
In the old Marxism, the capitalists exploited the workers.
In Moyne's version, Elderly Americans exploit the young.
Moynihan's solution, espoused of course in the New York Times, April 21st, is for the old to be dispossessed of their homes, jobs, accumulated wealth, political and judicial offices.
These dispositions are needed for intergenerational justice, by which Moynihan means redistribution from the age to the young and the older to stop older Americans from.
Hoarding America's potential.
Moynihan thinks a poorly educated and undisciplined youth can manage all of America's affairs better than better educated and more disciplined older Americans.
Moynihan builds his case against gerontological or gerontocratic society.
Older Americans, that is, more experienced Americans, are overrepresented in political life and have too much power.
This results in inequality and injustice and in regressive public policies.
Wow!
Stunning!
Stop, Joaquim.
Your thoughts?
Well, to the point that the economy that was proposed last year for this year didn't take into account this war.
I think that's bullshit, too.
They knew that there would be a war with Iran, spending the cards forever.
You know, but you know, the idea of having this war and World War III, uh, with the eastern powers, Iran, Russia, China, is basically to bankrupt America, you know, and bankrupt the whole world, obviously, by the Hormuz and the rest of the uh impact of this war that's in motion now, uh, bankrupt the whole global economy.
That's their great reset they've been talking about for many years now, um.
So, you know, nothing's a surprise.
Nothing's new.
It's all been in the cards for a long, long time.
So there's no surprise here.
You know, America is living on borrowed time.
And as far as, you know, we already got, what, $38 trillion in debt?
You know, I mean, it's all been planned.
You know, it's bankrupt America time.
It's coming very, very soon.
We're already.
On the edge of the cliff, ready to fall over.
So, no surprise.
Regarding this, he sounds like with a Chinese People's Republic revolution, where they basically turned on their older generation and they humiliated them.
Them in the sounds just like it, you know.
I mean, it's an idea that's that's uh now you know being uh, you know, they've been trying to cause all kinds of friction with the various classes that whether it's ageism, genderism, you know, racism, uh, you know.
It's divide and rule, divide and rule, divide and rule, pit different groups against each other.
And then it goes all the way to the international political, geopolitical scene, pitting the West versus the East.
It's an old story and the old dialectic problem reaction solution.
Here we go again.
They create the problem, have the ready made solution that brings us closer to their techno one world government.
So, yeah, I mean, everything is.
All these news events today have been in the cards for a long, long time.
We've known about them a long time, and they're all just coming to fruition closer and closer and closer to the end game goal of one world government.
Yeah.
Brian, your thoughts.
Well, this is actually a segment that I'm super excited about talking about because we have a couple of old timers here in the show.
And so now that the old timers have become the enemy, let me ask a question of both of y'all.
Jim, what is the first significant geopolitical event that you remember at your age?
Oh, of course, it was JFK.
JFK, I mean, the assassination.
Was the first serious geopolitical event that you remember?
I mean, nothing from your youth watching Walter Cronk.
Well, well, well, I mean, you know, the Korean War was still going on, and then we had the Vietnam War and all that.
But JFK intervened before because Jack actually wanted to pull us out of Vietnam, and it was Lyndon, you know, and the military who wanted him out so they could have their war.
I mean, my dad even served in World War II, you know, that the big.
So your dad served in World War II, okay.
Yeah.
That's great.
I was born in 73.
Okay.
Don, what about you?
What's your earliest significant historical memory?
Well, also, JFK is one that sticks out.
Who's the first president you remember?
First president, I remember.
Truman.
Truman.
Interesting.
You know, Truman did not support the Greater Israel Project?
You know that?
He was actively against it.
And this is what's really, really interesting.
Okay.
This Zionist project started back in the 1800s.
Now, why do they want to get rid of the old timers?
Because the old timers might remember.
Okay.
Long before World War II, there was a movement to establish a Jewish homeland.
It was led by this guy named Theodore Herzl.
This goes back to political Zionism in the 1800s.
We're talking way before the 1940s when we had World War II.
And the goal.
Back then, it was to establish a Jewish state, not just a refuge.
And so they wanted to have a sort of a gradual migration strategy and they wanted to sort of have their institution down in Palestine, but they didn't have any power.
Well, World War II would have destroyed their power to do that.
And so, historically, what we're taught in my generation is that the Israel Establishment Project was because of Holocaust guilt, which is what Douglas McGregor said in his statement on his YouTube video.
It was Holocaust guilt that drove it.
But I can tell you for a fact, historically, that is a bunch of bullshit.
These nations didn't help establish Israel because of Holocaust guilt.
They established Israel because Britain was losing control of the area and they used it.
They used political Zionism as sort of the front to make sure that they could continue to have an established puppet in the area.
So they wanted control in the 30s and 40s of these agricultural networks and these militias and political structures that.
Already existed, but Britain was losing control of the entire area and would rather have seen a political partner get established there.
So it had nothing to do with Israel appearing out of sympathy.
It was built over decades and then formalized under the Balfour Agreement when the conditions allowed it.
But the Jewish people were largely wiped out during World War II, as were lots of populations.
But the real power vacuum that caused it to happen was the collapse of British imperialism in the entire area.
They couldn't control the area.
They were financially exhausted, especially after World War II.
They were facing a full on Jewish insurgency, and they didn't want that in white Britain at all.
They were having a bunch of trouble with Arab resistance that was going to control the Middle East.
And so Britain wanted out, and they wanted to put somebody else back into place there.
So here's a great opportunity to take this sort of displaced persons crisis in this post war pressure after World War II and say, okay, well, let's go ahead and get our people in there.
As soon as we can.
And then we'll go ahead and create the narrative that supports it all along.
Well, the U.S. calculation, Truman was against it.
But of course, our position wasn't humanitarian.
We had domestic political pressure that was going that direction anyway.
Truman was conflicted about the issue.
He didn't think it was a good American project, but the U.S. State Department opposed officially the recognition of it.
And so the decision wasn't at all clean or unified under Truman whatsoever.
And U.S. support was not.
Inevitable.
And so what happens?
The Soviet strategy.
What's the Soviet strategy?
Oh, the British are getting to, you know, we want to continue to weaken the British because that makes us stronger.
And that's almost completely overlooked in it.
And so the Soviets came in and said, well, we'll go ahead and support this Israel thing because this will weaken British influence and destabilize Western control of the region.
And so now you've got Russia supporting it.
So you had a bunch of political factors that were all falling into place that the old timers might be able to remember.
And then, of course, the U.N. partition was perfect.
It caused a nice, clean diplomatic exit, and everybody got what they wanted.
But the problem was, once they got established, they started growing beyond our control.
So we went ahead and created a monster.
And this is where we're at right now, here today.
This has nothing to do with Holocaust moral reparations.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
That's just super good stuff.
Super good stuff.
I'd like to throw in something here.
Go right ahead.
Go right ahead.
Yeah, Truin, he had some regrets.
Yes, he ended up against the whole Jewish Israel thing.
But we have to recall that there was a suitcase full of cash that kind of bought him, got him sold on it.
So he went ahead and ordained Israel's founding in 1948.
You know, so, and also, You know, the CIA, he lived to regret that very shortly after it began in 1947.
But, you know, he was a downhome regular guy, you know, as far as, you know, he had that image of a middle class kind of guy for the people.
But anyway, yeah, my earliest memory of presidents are basically Eisenhower, West Point Grad, the hero of World War II.
And, you know, he stands out with that farewell speech he did, you know, the military industrial complex.
Watch out for that because it's trouble.
He knew all about it because it was forming, the monster was forming during his tenure of eight years back in the 50s.
Then he handed it over to John F. Kennedy, who is our greatest hope for any kind of stability in the world.
And they had to take him out, you know.
So, yeah, it's just so everybody can understand the difference.
Trump's Military Industrial Complex Plan00:07:20
Okay.
These old timers remember Truman, they remember Korea, they remember Vietnam, they remember all this stuff.
My memories, I'm 52 years old, so mine started out with the transition from Carter to Reagan.
So, how much more historical context do these guys have than I do?
They have like literally 40 years worth of extra historical context under their belts.
That has to be.
Gotten rid of if you want to reestablish a progressive society that forgets all historical past and rebuilds a new utopia inside academic institutions.
It's great stuff.
Great stuff.
And I see this Yale professor, that's his agenda, basically.
Oh, yeah.
Hitting the young generation versus the old people.
It's been tried so many times in the past, very effectively, I might add.
It's really disgusting, frankly.
Getting rid of the wisest, the most experienced members of society who have so much to contribute.
Meanwhile, Jim, the new progressives that just graduated from school are smarter than us.
Don't you realize?
We got to go.
They just came out of the University of Wisconsin Madison, and so they know everything.
Yeah, right.
Schools that have no longer any standards, a society that is just awash in immorality.
I mean, absent knowledge, trading on false information is a regular source.
Taken to be true, we're really in a modern day muck of disinformation.
I mean, it's just a flawed of separating the truth from the news.
I mean, that's where Don was so timely in recognizing that the news we're getting is more often than not false and not connected to reality.
I do think the older generation has some capacity to make those judgments, and by virtue of having that greater experience, by virtue of living longer, seeing more.
Encountered and thought about it a lot.
I think you're making impeccable points, Brian.
I really like it.
Very original.
There's one other thing, too, okay?
Kids can't think.
They can't think because all they have to do to get their answer is rub on their phone.
Yeah.
Okay?
They don't think.
We had to think.
Yep.
I spent 35 years teaching kids how to think, okay?
But it's lost in the digital era.
You're absolutely right.
They can't even add and subtract.
All they know is how to punch buttons.
That's staggering, staggering.
AI gives them all the answers, so they don't have to have any kind of discernment.
AI does their thinking for them.
Yeah.
Really fascinating.
Sadly.
Here we have three final stories.
Butler assassination attempt was faked, and Trump was in on it.
We'll go to that.
They lied about Charlottesville for years.
I have a whole book about it.
Scholars.
Mars is mission impossible.
There's no known way to return from Mars.
Let's start with Butler and see what they have to say to share with us.
It's amazing, really.
Most equipment isn't built to last like this.
We're not age limited because at any age.
And maybe Butler, Pennsylvania, was a ritual in order to seal the deal, right?
Because if you actually look at the specifics of the assassination where Trump's ear was bleeding, And he didn't have a shoe that actually fits into a biblical description of like a prophet or a messiah.
And it's in the Bible, I believe it's in Leviticus.
The more I look at things, the more I'm convinced that Donald Trump's assassination attempts were faked and they were inside jobs, especially Butler, Pennsylvania.
And the key.
A piece of evidence is that Donald Trump is not interested in who actually tried to do that, the conspiracy behind it.
It's just a lone nut who was able to somehow get through all.
Why aren't they watching the roofs?
Nobody's watching the roof of Butler, Pennsylvania, even though the crowd saw them.
Same thing with Charlie Kirk.
There's a roof.
There's a guy on the roof for at least a couple of minutes with a rifle, and nobody in the security saw him.
It's impossible, right?
So I am convinced that Donald Trump was in on that.
That Butler, Pennsylvania thing.
And what do you think about it?
Well, it certainly helps us understand why there's a disparity between the first term and the second term, right?
So, in the first term, all of Washington was unified against Trump.
They tried to sabotage him from day one, right?
With this Russia gate hoax.
The mainstream media was clearly against Trump.
So, when Trump ordered the American troops out of Syria, he was just ignored by the military.
Yes.
You know, you had the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, Mark Milley.
Call the Chinese and say, hey, don't listen to what this guy says.
We're in charge.
That's treason.
Yeah.
Right?
Um, and, and so in the first term, there were a lot of leaks.
There were a lot of turnover.
Uh, in the second term, you see a lot more discipline.
You see Trump actually carrying out a plan.
And so, uh, it's not possible that what happened was that, um, at the end of, at the end of his first term, the deep state, um, there were many, uh, political factions that tried to destroy Trump once and for all, right?
So January 6th was clearly a staged operation by the FBI, in my opinion.
Clearly.
And then after he left office, there was the raid, the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago.
There was lawfare.
They tried to bankrupt him.
They tried to put him in prison.
They tried to remove him from the ballot box.
And he was really in a lot of trouble.
So at that point, he had no choice but to make a deal with the deep state saying that, you know, look, Biden is useless.
Uh, Putin's gonna, uh, control the world.
If we continue to have Biden in the office, but Biden's not gonna, like, leave office voluntarily.
So, like, let's make a deal.
Like, we'll, we'll, we'll allow you to go back into office.
Um, and, but you have to promote our agenda, which is the, uh, American Empire agenda.
And, uh, maybe Butler, Pennsylvania was a ritual in order to seal the deal, right?
Because if you actually look at the specifics of the, uh, assassination where, um, Trump's ear was bleeding and he didn't have a shoe, that actually fits into a biblical description.
Of a prophet or a Messiah.
And it's in the Bible.
I believe it's in Leviticus, right?
So not only was it staged, but it was staged as a religious ritual in order to anoint Trump to be the avatar or basically the scapegoat for the deep state.
Fake Antisemitism Indictment Rituals00:04:05
100% right.
No doubt about it.
When he went down behind the stage, they used a blood caps or a Fake ear.
I actually had the image of a fake ear that was bloody.
But subsequently, his ear is perfectly clean.
It's miraculously healed because it was never damaged in the first place.
And they lied about Charlottesville, as I say.
I got a whole book about this.
It was really bad.
Harris knew how bad it was.
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Sometimes you just see news drop on something, and you're just like, just inject that into my veins.
It's just, it's so beautiful.
It's so perfect.
It's just so poetic.
There's poetic justice.
Like, for instance, I'll give you a personal example and then I'll get into the actual thing that I'm the Southern Poverty Law Center that I want to talk about.
Just as a personal anecdote, you know, it's like when you see a neighborhood Karen who is just constantly like invading people's lives and taking pictures and being an absolute bully and terrorizing the neighborhood.
And so does her husband.
And then it turns out that their actual.
Total drunks.
They're drunk all the time.
The whole neighborhood knows it.
And then the husband crashes into a car on the neighborhood and gets arrested for a DUI, and you get it all on tape.
That's like, that's poetic justice.
That's really weirdly specific.
It was very specific, and I'm quite close to naming names, but I won't for now.
Anyway, it's just these things in your lives that you're just like, this is just beautiful.
This is just, this couldn't have happened.
To a better group of people, the Southern Poverty Law Center, this is, of course, the nonprofit which is meant to launch lawsuits against racist groups.
Sorry, racist groups and call them out.
Turns out the group was the head of the snake.
The SPLC was paying the Ku Klux Klan according to a DOJ indictment.
And, you know, as usual, the leftist media, they don't like it when their people get called out.
They don't like it when their buddies get actually held accountable for literally anything ever.
But when acting Attorney General Todd Blanch gave this press conference to announce these indictments, he was not going to let them actually run cover.
Watch.
I just want to make sure I understand.
You're alleging that the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying the leaders of KKK and other groups to continue their operations?
Is that.
I'm not alleging it.
The grand jury returned an indictment that says that.
And so what the investigation found, according to the indictment that was returned today, Is that they were paying so Southern Poverty Law Center is raising money, asking folks to give them money to dismantle racism.
And over a very long period of time, they were using some of the money they raised from donors to pay to, they called them field, you know, basically to informants, for information, for access, to just pay them for certain things.
And so, because they had to have racism if they were going to justify their existence and their continued gathering of donations on a massive scale.
Scale.
It's like the ADL hiring kids to go and spray paint swastikas on synagogues.
They want to have fake instances of anti Semitism so they can justify their campaign against anti Semitism.
Meanwhile, we have a scholar not alone who opens the door for 24,000 healthcare graduates as a year.
Lies That Break Every Sense00:07:19
Currently, there can be no man mission tomorrow.
We can't even have man mission for the moon.
How can we have the man mission tomorrow?
Every Mars mission plan I've ever seen has the same hole in it.
Same hole.
And it's not the radiation, it's not the dust storms, it's not the six month journey, it's the return.
The return is where the plan stops being engineering and starts being wishful thinking.
And I want to be precise about what I mean because precision matters here more than it usually does.
I'm not saying we can't build a rocket that lifts off from the Martian surface.
I'm not even saying we can't, in principle, build one that reaches escape velocity and makes it back toward Earth.
What I am saying is that every serious attempt to work out what that actually requires in terms of mass, propellant, infrastructure, energy produces a number so large that it redefines the word impossible from a philosophical category into an engineering one.
And those are two very different kinds of impossible.
And most people who talk about Mars missions in public are not being honest with you about which one they're dealing with.
So, we are going to work this out together from the ground up.
And when we're done, I want you to carry this home not as a reason to give up on space, but as a reason to think harder about what space actually demands of us.
Let me just add in the hundred lines of proof I give about how we could not have gone to the moon, one of them is that it would have been impossible to have returned had we actually made it there.
Remember the huge rocket that was required to take off to get us out there?
But they got this little tiny thing there that was supposed to make it all the way back to Earth.
I mean, the whole situation is just completely absurd.
Joaquin, pick and choose your targets here.
There's a rich environment.
Yeah.
Well, I'll go with the added little bit on the Southern Poverty Law Center.
They're saying, or I've run across this in the last couple of days that a lot of these influencers, Candace, you know, a whole bunch of the very well known people are suddenly no longer on the air.
They're taking a little break.
And there are accusers saying that the Southern Poverty Law Center was actually paying them, that they're stooges for the.
For that group, I don't know.
I haven't really investigated it, but that's just one little added twist that came up in the last few days.
And it is kind of bizarre that all these top people that are the influencers suddenly are no longer doing their job on the air.
They're all on break.
Very strange to me.
You know, so that's just one little part.
We already covered pretty much the Butler fakery.
And of course, now that The Mars fakery, the moon fakery, the assassinations fakery, yeah, everything.
And I've been saying this a long time too.
Everything that is presented as a news development, a news event, particularly obviously if it's mainstream, it's all lies.
Everything is a lie.
Everything that comes out of Trump's mouth is a lie and Hegzeth and the rest of the clowns.
Everything's a lie.
That's what we've learned.
Everything's a lie if you pay attention to the mass media bullshit controlled by a handful of corporations and the government.
Everything is a lie.
So, yeah, we got to dig deeper and exercise some discernment skills.
And they have to be teaching that in schools, which they don't anymore, by the way.
Brian, your thoughts.
Okay.
I think I want to rename the Jim Fetzer project into the shit that doesn't make sense and how to detect it.
Because there is so much.
Look, we have been ahead of Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly.
We've been ahead of the Young Turks.
We've been ahead of clown after clown after clown after clown that has come on air saying these events are real because the group thinks they're real, because the narrative says they're real.
And if they're not real, that's impossible because I wouldn't possibly believe it because I couldn't possibly be deceived because I'm so smart and I'm so good at what I do.
So, you are all a bunch of liars.
People died in Las Vegas.
People died at Sandy Hook.
People died because if you're right, that means I'm wrong.
And if I'm wrong, that means I'm not as smart as I thought I was.
And I must have missed a step when it came to critical thinking, Klaus.
So, look, we've got the longest list on this show, as far back as it goes, of shit that doesn't make sense detectors.
And we might not have all the.
You know, damaging documents that proves it top to bottom, but we know when shit doesn't make sense.
And y'all know the moon landing doesn't make sense.
Going to Mars doesn't make sense.
The Charlie Kirk shooting didn't make any sense.
Donald Trump's Butler stuff didn't make any sense.
None of this makes any sense.
But what if we just flood the environment with more narrative and change the story?
Everybody will just bypass it.
And then the default position will be, I remember that.
So it must have made sense.
But then you get a problem guy like Jim Fetzer that comes along and says, you know what?
I can actually remember the Kennedy suiting.
And I'll tell you what, there's shit that doesn't make sense all over that.
And then you get the Don Grams that are like, okay, yeah, I remember Truman.
I remember Vietnam.
I remember, okay, shit that doesn't make sense.
So the old timers contribute a lot.
And I think it's very important to remember that COVID, as a purpose filled psychological operation, was directly responsible for killing more older Americans than anybody else and than any other.
Psychological operation that ever was laid out on people around.
And so, if you can erase that history and start with a fresh new class that's carefully protected within these school structures that are hardened to a hilt with military structures because of all these false flags that take place, and we can separate the kids out and we can educate them, then we can kill that old architecture.
We can kill that old memory and we can start out fresh with our progressive utopia that doesn't remember what our forefathers knew.
Erasing History For A New Utopia00:00:51
It was just wonderful, Brian.
You guys continue to surprise and impress.
I love it all.
Don, take us out.
What a wonderful show.
Oh, boy, here on the 26th of April, 2026.
Oh, you guys took us out.
Brian, you were excellent.
And what came, your comments, upstanding.
And especially good here.
And that's the time is up.
Okay.
Yeah, the time is up.
And I really thank you, gentlemen, for a stupendous show.
and hopefully we'll be coming back and there'll be uh well hopefully we'll get the truth out there instead of all the prophet has been out there that they want us to believe that is just unbelievable so thanks so much and share this widely god bless bye now