Jim Fetzer - REAL DEAL SPECIAL (25 March 2026): Katherine Horton & Bill Binney UNDER FIRE!
Aired: 2026-03-26
Duration: 01:00:14


=== Targeted Data Deletion (03:44) ===

[00:00:02]  Welcome to another real deal special with Catherine Horton, Bill Binney under fire.
[00:00:07]  I'm delighted once again to have Catherine Norton back.
[00:00:11]  Two weeks in a row, Catherine, tell me your latest news.
[00:00:15]  So, yeah, the reason, I'm sorry, it's me, it's two weeks in a row, it's gonna get boring.
[00:00:20]  But Bill unfortunately was tortured with his non-consensual chips quite severely last night.
[00:00:26]  So, he had an hour and a half sleep and he's just trying to catch up on sleep while the torture is still going on.
[00:00:32]  But in other news, my laptop got hacked a while back, and my IT guy.
[00:00:37]  So, what happened is that I was trying to delete one file in the downloads folder, definitely one file, nothing else was highlighted.
[00:00:44]  And the operation was redefined so that it deleted the entire downloads folder.
[00:00:50]  Now, that was two folders above.
[00:00:52]  I don't even know how that's possible, but it but anyway, it was a hack.
[00:00:55]  And my IT guy found files that are not tied to a registry entry, so a file directory were tied to an IP address in Washington.
[00:01:06]  So, he said he's never seen anything like this before.
[00:01:09]  And every time I go, he sees something he has never ever seen before.
[00:01:12]  But in this hack, so if it's just a simple delete, all you can do typically is just close the laptop lid, take your laptop straight to the IT guy, and he can run a software and restore all the deleted files.
[00:01:25]  So, we did that.
[00:01:26]  Every single file that you deleted months ago, anything, because it doesn't get deleted.
[00:01:32]  There's just a little flag is set at the start of the file saying the next block of data is just you can overwrite it.
[00:01:41]  So, anyway, one can restore the data.
[00:01:43]  And what was interesting is that I started using that laptop, I think, in the summer of last year, and anything related to work, anything related to Trump, to the assassination attempts, anything related to the investigation vanished.
[00:01:58]  It could not be restored.
[00:02:00]  Nothing.
[00:02:01]  And it was like a surgical operation that only those files that are related to my work investigating the assassination attempts were not recovered.
[00:02:10]  And everything else, random videos I downloaded for future reference, were still there.
[00:02:16]  Another thing that happened is that all the text files were overwritten with spaces.
[00:02:23]  So the text files got restored, all of them.
[00:02:26]  But when you open them in Notepad or a text editor, it shows you that there's a certain number of characters, which roughly corresponds to the length of the file that I remember.
[00:02:36]  So simple text files that I had on my computer where I was writing links and footnotes about the assassination attempts.
[00:02:43]  When they got restored, you can open the file and your text editor will show you 4,000 characters, whatever is in the file, but it is empty because those are all spaces, empty spaces.
[00:02:57]  So before deleting the folder, they wiped everything.
[00:03:02]  My IT guy said it's called buffering, but they specifically went in and specifically targeted my work.
[00:03:09]  So, and my work was tied to FBI criminality.
[00:03:13]  So it's pretty clear who did that.
[00:03:14]  But they've been sitting on my laptop for a long time, went in in a hack, deleted it all, and made sure that even though it looks like it looked like an innocent delete for plausible deniability when I restored it, I could see that my work was specifically targeted in a highly specific manner.
[00:03:32]  This was clearly done by the FBI itself.
[00:03:36]  100%.
[00:03:37]  I mean, sometimes they take tech help from NSA, and Edward Snowden released one long list of hacks that GCHQ and NSA had developed.

=== FBI Orchestrated Assassination Attempt (15:12) ===

[00:03:46]  None of it is for national security.
[00:03:48]  All of it is for the harassment of civilians, basically.
[00:03:52]  Because why would you want to have little, you know, tinky harassment programs that make it clear to somebody that their laptop is being accessed?
[00:04:00]  If you're doing proper national security infiltration, you would never want to be discovered.
[00:04:06]  But you want to be discovered if you're running a harassment program, which is what they're doing.
[00:04:11]  But I just, you know, I called my IT guy when I went through this and he told me that he's never seen anything like this before.
[00:04:19]  As always, he always said that in his long career in being in IT security, he has seen some crazy stuff.
[00:04:25]  But the craziest things he's ever seen is always with Bill and me.
[00:04:29]  And it's always different.
[00:04:30]  And it's always us too.
[00:04:34]  If it's acceptable, give us a rundown of what it was they deleted, why they were so concerned about the content of your research on subjects.
[00:04:44]  So I can give you as much as I can without getting assassinated.
[00:04:49]  I was tracking the network.
[00:04:50]  So what the FBI should be doing after Butler and after West Palm Beach and all those, and after all the other things that happened, they should be looking at the network behind these people.
[00:05:00]  But of course, we know it was the FBI that washed down the AGR building less than 24 hours after Butler happened.
[00:05:08]  I think within 14 hours, they'd washed down the DNA evidence.
[00:05:12]  The body got cremated of the supposed shooter.
[00:05:15]  Thomas Crookes' home was like a hospital.
[00:05:18]  It had been bleached.
[00:05:19]  All this is to remove DNA evidence.
[00:05:21]  So it's pretty clear that the shooter on the roof was not Thomas Crookes.
[00:05:25]  That's why they had to do it.
[00:05:26]  And it's also clear that the FBI orchestrated Butler and ran it from the get-go just from the stuff that they did overtly.
[00:05:34]  So after that, I dug in.
[00:05:36]  I found the announcement of Butler.
[00:05:38]  I found a police officer who had announced it using the Ace of Spades.
[00:05:43]  And anyway, the Ace of Spades is the Iraqi most wanted playing card.
[00:05:48]  It's called the Illuminati card game.
[00:05:50]  Anyway, a long story short, I was tracking all these people who had announced Butler, but were also announcing the next couple of things.
[00:05:59]  So for example, when the Secret Service found the sniper's nest on October 16th, all the chatter that I was following was indicating that at some point around that time, Trump was going to be shot.
[00:06:14]  And they were very clear about it.
[00:06:16]  Like the death was announced again with the Ace of Spades.
[00:06:20]  And I didn't know exactly what day, but I was honing in on the Friday when he was going to fly back to Mar-a-Lago.
[00:06:27]  That seemed to be the most plausible what they were hinting at in code.
[00:06:31]  And what horrified me is that before he flew to Mar-a-Lago that Friday, Friday, October 17th, in the White House, they had Andrea Bocelli and they played Time to Say Goodbye, his hit single, right?
[00:06:45]  And that was blaring out in the Rose Garden, as obvious as it can be, right?
[00:06:50]  So I thought, oh, the people in the White House.
[00:06:53]  The swan song, time to say goodbye, we're taking you out.
[00:06:57]  There is that.
[00:06:58]  What a coincidence.
[00:06:59]  They just happened to be playing this song in the Rose Garden when Trump was assassinated.
[00:07:04]  Amazing.
[00:07:06]  Well, he was, I thought, so all the chatter leading up in the months before was hinting something that weekend and more and more hinting at that day.
[00:07:15]  It was very hard for me to set an exact day, but when I heard the time to say goodbye and there was other stuff related to aviation, I knew it's either going to be the Friday when he flies out or the Sunday when he flies back.
[00:07:28]  It was related to aviation.
[00:07:30]  And on the day I was still monitoring the chatter.
[00:07:32]  So when I heard time to say goodbye and it was, you know, made public that that's what they're playing in the rose garden, I was like, holy shit, something's going to happen.
[00:07:41]  So I was convinced Trump was going to get shot.
[00:07:45]  And I was, I mean, you know, the Secret Service hasn't been listening to us for over a year now, but that's what I was afraid of.
[00:07:51]  So then he got to Mar-a-Lago safely, thank goodness.
[00:07:54]  But on the Sunday, I got to know through the press that on the Thursday, so the day before Trump was going to fly out, the Secret Service had found a sniper's nest outside Palm Beach International.
[00:08:08]  So from everything that I could see, that was going to be it.
[00:08:12]  That sniper's nest was going to be used that Friday.
[00:08:15]  So had the Secret Service not found it on Thursday before, I think that was going to be Butler 2.0 and this time probably for real.
[00:08:24]  And I think the plan was to shoot him as he stepped off Air Force One, you know, because the sniper's nest had a direct line of sight.
[00:08:30]  And by the way, it was on the parking lot, bushes behind the parking lot, of a U.S. Army Reserve building.
[00:08:38]  So, you know, U.S. Army Reserve, somebody walking across the parking lot with a rifle might not even seem that strange.
[00:08:46]  So anyway, that's what I was tracking.
[00:08:49]  And I was tracking something else.
[00:08:52]  I couldn't see anything leading up to the time when the motorcade had to be diverted because they found a suspicious device again on the way to Palm Beach International.
[00:09:03]  But other stuff happened.
[00:09:05]  I was convinced.
[00:09:06]  So there was chatter leading up to something between Christmas and New Year.
[00:09:10]  And I was convinced something really big is going to go down again.
[00:09:14]  And the closer we got to New Year, the more freaked out or nervous I was.
[00:09:18]  Thankfully, we got to the new year, nothing happened.
[00:09:20]  And then afterwards, they invaded Venezuela.
[00:09:23]  And Trump said it was actually going, would have taken place three days earlier, which would have been New Year's Eve.
[00:09:31]  And that would have been also the perfect cover.
[00:09:33]  You know, everybody's celebrating the new year.
[00:09:36]  And meanwhile, they do something else.
[00:09:38]  So, but that got delayed.
[00:09:40]  But from what I could see, the people who did Butler and West Palm Beach and were trying to take him out with the sniper's nest at Palm Beach International, they were going to take him out before he invaded Venezuela.
[00:09:53]  So that's how I kind of figured out, oh, shit, something went down.
[00:09:56]  And I think they kind of locked themselves down in Mar-a-Lago and had their command center ready.
[00:10:04]  And I think Trump got, you know, stayed put and the whole plan didn't materialize.
[00:10:09]  Thank goodness.
[00:10:10]  But anyway, so it was all this stuff, all these people.
[00:10:13]  And I can tell you, they are connected to the White House and they're connected to the FBI.
[00:10:17]  It's basically the FBI-CIA.
[00:10:19]  All this shit about Iranian HIIT squads is utter bullshit.
[00:10:22]  If it's Iranian HIIT squads, it's only for plausible deniability.
[00:10:26]  It would be people run by the FBI and the CIA.
[00:10:30]  But it's quite serious because they keep trying.
[00:10:34]  And one thing I want to point out is that they didn't just hack my laptop and removed all my work, right?
[00:10:40]  Detailed work that where I could map and point to exact accounts chattering about this stuff.
[00:10:47]  That got deleted.
[00:10:49]  But also, I would like to point out that when Comey, James Comey, issued the kill order, that's what it was, with his seashells at a beach, right?
[00:11:01]  Remember the 8647 laid out in seashells?
[00:11:06]  So people need to remember the eight was highlighted.
[00:11:08]  So the eight or flipped on its side, the infinity symbol, that is the cabal symbol for eternal revolution, the cycle.
[00:11:17]  So if they want to replace somebody, right?
[00:11:19]  It also has CC, Crown Corporation, embedded in that symbol.
[00:11:23]  So it's a signature of the Crown.
[00:11:26]  The Crown signed the kill order.
[00:11:28]  They were going to cycle, right, from President Trump to somebody else, JD Vance, right?
[00:11:34]  But the kill order, 8647, was seashells at the beach.
[00:11:39]  And since then, all the big stuff happened at Palm Beach International.
[00:11:45]  That's where the sniper's nest was.
[00:11:47]  That was where the motorcade had to be diverted because of the suspicious device.
[00:11:51]  And that in West Palm Beach is where the guy with the shotgun supposedly went into Mar-a-Lago.
[00:11:58]  Although I think that was something else.
[00:12:00]  That was not really an assassination attempt.
[00:12:02]  That was Cartel signaling for something else entirely.
[00:12:05]  And that needs to be still investigated.
[00:12:06]  But anyway, all that work and all the people connected to that.
[00:12:12]  That was all on my laptop.
[00:12:13]  And the FBI watched me run the investigation and then deleted their traces, basically.
[00:12:19]  You know?
[00:12:21]  What the hell does it matter?
[00:12:23]  I mean, we know who it is.
[00:12:24]  Okay.
[00:12:25]  This is one thing that really annoys me when they're going after James Comey.
[00:12:28]  They go after just, you know, like pissy shit.
[00:12:32]  The real point is that he issued the kill order against Trump that is continuously being executed until somebody succeeds.
[00:12:40]  So he is tied to the entire network behind this.
[00:12:45]  And that's what he should be up in court for, for orchestrating, initiating, orchestrating, and being a co-conspirator of attempts on the president's life.
[00:12:56]  What do you interpret to be the motive to kill Trump?
[00:12:59]  Why kill him?
[00:13:01]  Because, I mean, you maintain that he is one of them, and I maintain that he isn't.
[00:13:06]  And I think this indicates I'm right.
[00:13:10]  You know what I mean?
[00:13:12]  I don't think he's a cabal guy.
[00:13:13]  Of course, he has to steer.
[00:13:15]  I mean, Israel, yes, controls the government.
[00:13:17]  There are all these people with double citizenships.
[00:13:19]  They wield a lot of power in the State Department, in the CIA, everywhere.
[00:13:24]  And yes, they have the power to kill him.
[00:13:26]  And he still doesn't have a working, functioning DOJ or FBI that can, you know, that can actually protect him.
[00:13:33]  So he's basically being protected by the Secret Service to the best of their knowledge, bless them, and the prayer.
[00:13:40]  That's it.
[00:13:41]  That's it.
[00:13:41]  He doesn't have, I mean, I don't think he even has the military behind it because, look, the sniper's nest was U.S. Army Reserve.
[00:13:50]  That was on their territory.
[00:13:51]  So the people there are in on it.
[00:13:54]  All right.
[00:13:55]  So the military is in on it.
[00:13:56]  The intellect agencies are in on it.
[00:13:58]  The DOJ is just so pathetic.
[00:14:00]  It puts tears into my eyes.
[00:14:02]  And the real problem is he was distracted.
[00:14:05]  Just for a clarification, doesn't mean the whole organization.
[00:14:08]  It means key people.
[00:14:11]  Well, if you listen to Bill five levels of management down, that's NSA.
[00:14:16]  He said five levels of management down is as corrupt as they come or as negligent, you know.
[00:14:24]  But either way, when you know that stuff is running the way it shouldn't and you acquiesce and don't do anything, you know, you basically become part of it by letting it continue.
[00:14:35]  So anyway, it's also not when it comes, for example, to the FBI, you have to be extremely junior indeed, not to have come across shady stuff by now.
[00:14:47]  You have to be so junior that you were never exposed to any, you know, infiltration and sabotage of patriotic groups or just parents trying to keep the LGBTQ CIA plus out of, you know, school libraries.
[00:15:02]  The FBI infiltrates them, sabotages them, and then horrifically targets them with directed energy weapons.
[00:15:09]  So what job would you have to have in the FBI never to have come across this?
[00:15:15]  I don't know, the janitor, you know, the cleaning lady?
[00:15:20]  So I think it's fair to say that you're safer to say they're all corrupt than to say, oh, most of them are okay.
[00:15:26]  No, most of them are as corrupt as they come, which is also why the only hope I see is in the Secret Service.
[00:15:34]  Because so far, they're the only people who protected them.
[00:15:36]  And whoever, I mean, I don't think the Secret Service is listening to this, but if anybody is, whoever found that sniper's nest, I can confirm they saved Trump's life for sure.
[00:15:47]  All the signals were, yep, it's going down on the 17th, October 17th.
[00:15:53]  You know?
[00:15:55]  So.
[00:15:56]  Give me just kind of a summary of the biggest threats Trump poses to the Crown corporation.
[00:16:06]  I mean, I want us to fully appreciate your position on this, Catherine.
[00:16:12]  And frankly, I'm open to it.
[00:16:14]  I'm open to it.
[00:16:15]  I would just like to hear more in terms of why they would go to all this trouble to assassinate a president who most think is already too compliant with foreign governments.
[00:16:28]  Here's the thing.
[00:16:29]  So first of all, one has to look at, if you want to know what the business plans or long-term plans of the Crown Corporation were, look at all the stuff that was rolled out in lockstep.
[00:16:40]  So, for example, mass immigration, the flooding of Western countries with third world immigrants, right?
[00:16:48]  We don't have to come to a judgment about whether they criminals or honest people, a mix of them, but it's enough to melt down the social systems, right?
[00:16:57]  They are huge drain on the taxpayers.
[00:17:00]  Taxpayer paid for facilities are being utterly diverted to cater to them for free.
[00:17:06]  This is not how a normal country behaves.
[00:17:10]  But this was top down from the UN, from whatever, right?
[00:17:14]  Now that's their level, the globalist level.
[00:17:16]  So as soon as you go against unbridled mass immigration, like Trump has done, you already fucked with their business plan.
[00:17:23]  If you go against mail-in voting and voter fraud and election tampering, you go against their business plans because what they want is migrate all the election systems onto the digital platforms where AI and NSA and the FBI can just run riot for free.
[00:17:45]  That's very easy to control.
[00:17:47]  I mean, we've seen it.
[00:17:48]  So all these things that he does, closing the southern border, right, also throwing criminals out of the country.
[00:17:57]  I mean, in a sense, you don't get rid of the problem because they will go over there murdering over there across the border.
[00:18:02]  Ideally, they should be executed, but hey, just throwing them out is good enough for now.
[00:18:07]  But as soon as anybody opens the border or if the FBI wants to funnel them back with fraudulent passports, which is what the FBI and CIA do all the time, these killers will be back in the country.
[00:18:17]  So they, you know.
[00:18:19]  But so these two things are already a huge.
[00:18:22]  The election integrity, mass immigration, going against that, it is huge.
[00:18:28]  And you can see that the two people who went against it, Trump and Viktor Orban, are being retaliated against.
[00:18:33]  The EU hates Viktor Orban because he refused to take any of these immigrants.
[00:18:39]  And he said that Hungary is a country for Hungarians and is Christian and shall remain so.
[00:18:44]  And then he pissed off people even more by saying we're going to solve the collapsing birth rate by giving mothers of three or more children basically a tax break for life.
[00:18:56]  They're not paying income tax for the rest of their lives.

=== Breaking Up the White Family (03:10) ===

[00:18:59]  The argument being that if you raise more than the replacement level of children, more than two children, you have done more than enough for the country, for the future of the country.
[00:19:08]  So why should you also put in extra money when you already put the money into raising those kids?
[00:19:14]  But Hungary is the first ever country to do that, to try to correct the birth rate.
[00:19:18]  And from what I heard from friends and family, they love it and it works.
[00:19:24]  So in the West, my friends my age have no children.
[00:19:28]  And friends, family friends in Hungary have two children and are looking forward to get their third and fourth exactly because of that, because it's a huge monetary saving, right?
[00:19:40]  And there are many, many more benefits.
[00:19:42]  I mean, Hungarian societies are also very traditional.
[00:19:45]  They've got very good childcare, very good schools in comparison to other countries.
[00:19:50]  And yeah, it's like being a mother and looking after children is a much more pleasant experience than it is in the US.
[00:19:58]  So, yeah, but by doing that, by being for humanity, for the family, you go exactly against decades of plans that the Crown Corporation, this criminal entity that's even bigger than the British Crown, had where they broke up first the black family with welfare, right?
[00:20:16]  They brought in all the gangster rap and the twerking, and hence we have Nikki Minaj and people like that, right?
[00:20:23]  Basically doing sex acts live on camera, and it's being broadcast into all the homes.
[00:20:29]  Then they wanted to break up the white family, all this modern rabbit feminism that's rampant here in the US.
[00:20:35]  That was their business plan.
[00:20:37]  And, you know, just as a footnote, when I came to the US, all the guys with whom I had any sort of related conversations, including Bill, at some point said, oh, feminism is what destroyed the US.
[00:20:50]  Coming from Europe, feminism only means equal pay for equal work, the right to vote, and maternity leave.
[00:20:58]  Okay, some reasonable maternity.
[00:21:00]  That's it.
[00:21:01]  That's it.
[00:21:02]  It's not boss bitches.
[00:21:04]  It's not men having to be slaves to women, nothing.
[00:21:08]  So as I heard all these guys tell me, I mean, the way my brain passed it, it sounded to me like they were saying, oh, ever since the women got the right to vote, that's when the country went down the pan, right?
[00:21:20]  At some point, I thought, damn it, I need to look into what feminism means here in the US because it's clearly not what we understand under it in Europe, because Bill wouldn't say something like that, right?
[00:21:31]  So he meant something else.
[00:21:32]  And yeah, sure enough, I can map how the intelligence agencies are mixing, shit mixing, and all these dating reports where women talk about their dating life and how hard it is and how awful men are.
[00:21:46]  And I can see the programming.
[00:21:50]  I can see mind control and priming tricks that I know from the intelligence agencies that they are using them being deployed into what looks like a civilian domain to try to drive a wedge between men and women.
[00:22:04]  So the ideal, the plan of the globalists is to for everybody to live alone.

=== Cutting Drug Production at Source (04:51) ===

[00:22:10]  First of all, because house prices go up, twice as many apartments are necessary and single homes, whatever.
[00:22:18]  If everybody lives alone, it's a lot less efficient.
[00:22:21]  So you have to have two utility bills, right?
[00:22:23]  You have to have two grocery shops, blah, blah, blah.
[00:22:26]  Everything is double.
[00:22:27]  It's already you created a market, but also people are more vulnerable and can be picked off.
[00:22:33]  And any help that you need will be a service you have to purchase in separately, right?
[00:22:39]  It could be childcare, it could be elderly care.
[00:22:41]  There is no, you haven't reached critical mass so that you have somebody else to help you, or there's some sort of little group that can help you, you know, adult children, nothing.
[00:22:51]  So the ideal is to have a childless society where everybody just, you know, lives on their own.
[00:22:57]  And then, you know, young men can just have their OnlyFans subscriptions and have basically the other half of the female population can prostitute themselves, you know, on OnlyFans, and that will be their income.
[00:23:10]  And I can see this already rolled out and fully deployed and incredibly successful here in the US.
[00:23:16]  Now, if you go against that in any way, you will be directly on the hit list of the cabal because it's big business.
[00:23:25]  Every single thing that I've listed is huge business.
[00:23:29]  Oh, the other thing is, where Trump really migrated up the shit list is if you go against the drug cartels, you cut directly at the base of the number one business plan of this organized crime cartel, that's the crown.
[00:23:46]  They really feed off the sale of illicit materials.
[00:23:50]  So human trafficking, trafficking in drugs, weapons, radioactive material, anything, anything like that is hugely profitable.
[00:24:03]  It's highly profitable, has huge margins, huge return on investment because it's illegal.
[00:24:09]  So that's what this organized crime cartel specialized in.
[00:24:12]  But the drugs, especially, I mean, the entire continental width of the U.S. is being supplied by drugs.
[00:24:18]  If you start cutting at the base of the actual production areas of the drugs, you are going to make a huge dent into the income stream of the Crown.
[00:24:29]  And compared to that, the price of Hitman will become shockingly cheap.
[00:24:34]  You know, Catherine, I forever thought that legalizing drugs was the way to pull the rug out from under the cartels and that it would be a good idea.
[00:24:45]  We'd stop wasting all this money on criminalizing voluntary behavior, standardize tax, treat it like cigarettes, regulate it, make a bonanza.
[00:24:59]  I mean, Colorado right now, just by legalizing marijuana, has just turned the country green.
[00:25:06]  I mean, they have so much money, they don't know what to do with it.
[00:25:09]  Just think if all these drugs were made legal, I think it would make a huge difference and all for the good.
[00:25:17]  Yeah.
[00:25:19]  See, this is where I maybe, but the thing is, with cigarettes, you kind of kill yourself slowly and you don't harm others.
[00:25:30]  You can smoke a pack of cigarettes and drive and you're not going to kill anybody.
[00:25:36]  But especially where Bill and I live, I see so many people high as a kite.
[00:25:41]  I mean, just in town, I had to call the police because a young girl was, I don't know, it looked like she was smoking crack while driving.
[00:25:50]  She was parked in the center of a junction just not far from our house.
[00:25:55]  High as a kite.
[00:25:58]  You know, she nearly did massive property damage as she just drove off.
[00:26:03]  These illegal drugs are not, they're not the same as cigarettes.
[00:26:09]  Okay, you can say alcohol, but yeah, alcohol, that's a problem too.
[00:26:13]  But these drugs, they also mess with people's minds.
[00:26:16]  And long-term use, even long-term use of weed is everything but benign.
[00:26:23]  So yeah, I mean, as a short-term fix, yes, you could legalize it.
[00:26:27]  That might be a good idea.
[00:26:28]  But then again, you lose all mechanisms to actually enforce it.
[00:26:32]  And the absolute best would be to return to the situation we had in the 40s and 50s, where you just couldn't get any drugs.
[00:26:39]  They don't grow in Idaho, right?
[00:26:41]  You can't just have an industrial supply of drugs so that everybody from Philadelphia to New York to Boise can get their hands on drugs.
[00:26:51]  There's this huge supply chain.
[00:26:54]  And they are, you know, I mean, the CIA and the military knows exactly where these plantations are because they're not exactly small, you know.

=== The Stolen Money Black Budget (14:59) ===

[00:27:02]  But the problem is that there are income streams that feed the military straight from Afghanistan to this day that are tied to GMO modified poppies that have extra high yield.
[00:27:14]  And it feeds both into the legitimate big pharma supply as it does into the illegal drugs.
[00:27:22]  And the US military was instrumental in coercing Afghan farmers to plant these GMO poppies over what they would have planted naturally, which is food.
[00:27:33]  And there were just big scandals about that in the very beginning of the war when this was known.
[00:27:39]  But I think it has been kept completely silent here in the US, you know, where the U.S. military has to be celebrated.
[00:27:45]  And it's just like, you know.
[00:27:48]  But they are hugely involved.
[00:27:50]  And this is what makes it so dangerous.
[00:27:52]  So if Trump goes seriously up against the drug business, he is directly affecting the black budget of the military.
[00:28:01]  I promise you.
[00:28:03]  And the military has all the weapons.
[00:28:05]  They have all the assassins.
[00:28:07]  And it's going to be a dangerous situation.
[00:28:09]  Now, the only way to really proceed is to use what Bill's thin thread and map out everybody who's involved with this to start with and basically monitor what they're doing and go after them with whatever remains of the honest FBI and the honest military.
[00:28:26]  You know, what are they doing with their black budgets, Catherine?
[00:28:30]  I've never figured that out.
[00:28:31]  They have more money than, you know.
[00:28:34]  Then cents.
[00:28:35]  Yes.
[00:28:37]  What are they doing?
[00:28:38]  What the hell are they up to?
[00:28:40]  I don't get it.
[00:28:42]  Yeah, it is a parallel society that they are feeding.
[00:28:45]  So the black budget, number one, the black budget is used to implant the population, pay doctors and pay the bio firms that develop these chips.
[00:28:59]  So all the chips that we will find in ourselves in the coming years will have been put into us by the military and the intelligence agencies.
[00:29:09]  And the entire parallel society of doctors and nurses and all this other shenanigans and IT professionals who wired up the hospital so that they can read out our body implants and blah, blah, blah.
[00:29:20]  That's like a huge industry.
[00:29:22]  And all that was paid for through the black budget.
[00:29:26]  The FBI uses the black budget to pay gangstalkers in every town and city of the country.
[00:29:32]  It's like a parallel society of infiltrators that they have on their books.
[00:29:37]  These people get astronomical sums of money.
[00:29:39]  And when you tally up just how much we're looking at, yes, that kind of matches the black budget.
[00:29:45]  So an entire parallel society of corrupt motherfuckers is being paid.
[00:29:49]  And they sit in your local town council.
[00:29:52]  They are your police chiefs.
[00:29:54]  They are your doctors, certain doctors at hospitals, surgeons, nurses, road workers, by the way, because they can put certain taps into utilities and so on.
[00:30:05]  The telecom companies, anybody you could possibly think of is on their payroll.
[00:30:10]  An entire parallel society.
[00:30:12]  And they need the back black budget to keep this running.
[00:30:16]  All the many front organizations that run BLM, Antifa, rioters, these crisis actors, the false flag operations, Jim, that you are an expert on, right?
[00:30:27]  Who paid for all those people?
[00:30:29]  It's not coming out of the FBI budget.
[00:30:32]  It's like a line item saying Sandy Hook and miscellaneous.
[00:30:38]  It's all being done through this stolen money.
[00:30:42]  And as soon as you start turning on the tap, number one, you really drain power from the deep state because they can only motivate their minions with money.
[00:30:54]  You know, that's the thing.
[00:30:55]  Our side works, you and I, we work for free because we think this is the right thing to do, right?
[00:31:01]  So we do the work we do for free, just driven by altruism and our need for justice.
[00:31:08]  The other side, they don't do anything for free.
[00:31:11]  They are lazy bastards.
[00:31:13]  They want the easy way out.
[00:31:15]  They only work with threats, with blackmail, and with metric tons of money.
[00:31:20]  Okay.
[00:31:21]  So that's it.
[00:31:24]  And there's so much more.
[00:31:25]  I mean, God, the chemtrailing operations, the people who are being paid off for chemtrailing, the running of these fake front organizations, you know, money that's floating political campaigns, various, all this money, all this money has to come from somewhere.
[00:31:43]  And if you trace it down, it will get murky.
[00:31:46]  But eventually, you will, I think, trace it back to the trillions that Catherine HolstenFitz uncovered were going missing through HUD, you know, the Pentagon that never passed an audit.
[00:31:56]  And for example, concrete example, now that Trump said that all the European countries should up their budget for NATO, does anybody track where NATO spends their money?
[00:32:08]  Because NATO is not a thing.
[00:32:12]  It's a set of offices, if that.
[00:32:14]  And yes, they are trying to have like a NATO army, but all that is is the national military, certain officers get a NATO rank, but they're already paid for by the nation states.
[00:32:28]  So where the hell is all that money going?
[00:32:31]  Right?
[00:32:32]  The Pentagon hasn't passed an audit in our lifetime.
[00:32:35]  NATO, I don't think, is even audited.
[00:32:39]  So yeah.
[00:32:40]  It just bewilders me where all this money goes.
[00:32:43]  I mean, with a case like Zelinsky, you know, an individual corrupt, he buys mansions, Switzerland, Miami, all this.
[00:32:52]  You can see where he's putting his money.
[00:32:55]  But I mean, these big outfits that have these massive black budgets, I've just never understood where all that money goes, what they're up to, how it all works.
[00:33:05]  You know, it's baffled me.
[00:33:08]  When I started from the bottom end, I looked at victim cases and then I was mapping who exactly was involved.
[00:33:15]  And in every single victim case, the police chief is involved.
[00:33:19]  The chief of the head of the local hospital is involved.
[00:33:22]  Certain doctors are involved.
[00:33:24]  All of these people get paid off.
[00:33:25]  The local council, there's always some members who are in it.
[00:33:29]  Neighbors are paid to spy on the victims.
[00:33:32]  So as I was mapping it and the type of people, it's not just law enforcement and doctors and judges and lawyers.
[00:33:41]  It is basically everybody.
[00:33:43]  They are construction workers.
[00:33:44]  There's neighbors, random ass neighbors, friends, family members.
[00:33:48]  And all of these people, when they get on the payroll of the FBI, they get two things.
[00:33:52]  Number one, cash in hand, various off-book payment methods, gift cards, you name it, off the books through a front organization with some plausible deniability reason.
[00:34:03]  But number two, these people also get tax benefits.
[00:34:06]  So you can either be given money or money is not taken from you that otherwise would be taken.
[00:34:12]  So these people get special tax codes and stuff like that.
[00:34:16]  But ultimately, think about all the corrupt judges who buy mansions that they could never afford out of their judges' salary.
[00:34:23]  Multi-million dollar mansions that they pay back after two or three years.
[00:34:27]  Who pays for all that stuff?
[00:34:29]  And it's the intelligence agencies and the military.
[00:34:31]  It's this system.
[00:34:32]  It's the crown system.
[00:34:35]  Oh, and then think about all the foreign countries that they have to pay off.
[00:34:40]  You know, all those, where did all the money come from that Obama dropped on Iran, you know, in that plane load?
[00:34:49]  And where's the money coming from that they drop in Latin American countries buying all their politicians?
[00:34:54]  So they are buying mansions for them and so on and so on and so on.
[00:34:57]  It's a lot of mansions going around.
[00:35:00]  Well, as far as that specific money to Iran, that was Iran's own money that we had frozen illegally.
[00:35:06]  So I don't think that was suspicious.
[00:35:09]  People who don't understand, we'd frozen 600 billion Iranian Dollars wouldn't understand why we would send them back all that money.
[00:35:21]  But that was, in my opinion, not inappropriate.
[00:35:25]  Now, you mentioned Sandy Hook.
[00:35:28]  Actually, it was run by the Department of Homeland Security.
[00:35:31]  I have their agenda where it shows exercise L366 scheduled for Sandy Hook right there on the mint.
[00:35:39]  Eric Holder came down to Newtown and offered the community $114 million, Catherine, to participate in this event that was supposed to illustrate what could happen if we don't take guns away from the American people.
[00:35:54]  They had auditions.
[00:35:55]  They signed non-disclosure agreements.
[00:35:58]  They got benefits.
[00:36:00]  They don't pay taxes to this day, Catherine.
[00:36:04]  And they get free college.
[00:36:05]  I mean, I'm telling you, it was a pretty good deal.
[00:36:09]  I mean, how insane.
[00:36:10]  And people in the community didn't want to be a part moved out.
[00:36:14]  And those who were willing, they created synthetic families.
[00:36:17]  They had the whole thing fabricated, phony names, phony ID.
[00:36:21]  It was unbelievable how elaborate it was.
[00:36:24]  They went planning it.
[00:36:26]  But that was done right through DHS.
[00:36:29]  Yeah, but then also look at how many $77 million that was paid to them by the gun company.
[00:36:36]  Wasn't that the damages?
[00:36:39]  That's very interesting.
[00:36:40]  Yeah, that was the Remington suit.
[00:36:43]  Yeah.
[00:36:43]  And I offered to be an amicus witness to explain what had actually happened.
[00:36:53]  And would you believe both the defendants and the prosecution didn't want me there to explain the whole thing of being a fraud.
[00:37:00]  Yeah.
[00:37:01]  And you know what?
[00:37:02]  Now think about it.
[00:37:03]  My point is that the 77 million, right, it's like an intel number.
[00:37:07]  The sevens, you know, are usually indicating intelligence agents agencies.
[00:37:12]  So the 77 million, I think, strongly came from the FBI through a front organization.
[00:37:18]  It was laundered, but I don't think it was Remington's money.
[00:37:21]  And that's why they didn't care, because they were going to have the show theater lawsuit, and they were going to pay people off with $77 million.
[00:37:30]  And that money, I think, also comes from a black budget.
[00:37:34]  But it's all, you know, the crazy thing is it's being laundered through tax havens, through shell companies, through front organizations, and then through all these like FBI, you know, infiltrator families.
[00:37:46]  And it looks like it's donations, but all of these people are instructed to donate to a certain cause, right?
[00:37:53]  So all the donations to the Sandy Hook people and so on, blah, blah, blah.
[00:37:56]  Some of it might be, you know, tricked little old ladies who feel sorry for them.
[00:38:01]  But after so many years later, the money still keeps flowing, as you told me, right?
[00:38:06]  Catherine, they're still making a million bucks a month off of Sandy Hook.
[00:38:10]  Yeah, I think they're being paid a month after of Sandy Hook.
[00:38:15]  Now, with regard to the insurance company, my interpretation has been they were willing to lose the suit because they thought it would eventually lead to requirements for registration and insurance of guns.
[00:38:28]  And they'd make so much more money that $77 million was chicken feet.
[00:38:33]  But I also think it was a fraudulent case.
[00:38:36]  I don't think the money ever went anywhere.
[00:38:38]  I don't think anyone ever had to produce $77 million.
[00:38:41]  I think it was just a figure on a piece of paper.
[00:38:44]  Yeah, yeah, quite possibly.
[00:38:46]  Quite possibly.
[00:38:47]  And all this could be figured out very simply.
[00:38:50]  I mean, Bill had this other program, which was called Well Grounded, where he was mapping money flows and looking at monetary stuff.
[00:39:01]  And you can figure out all this stuff super easily of who got paid what and how much and who is connected to all this.
[00:39:07]  And you can even track the money, how it gets laundered, because I'm pretty sure that there are telecommunication instructions going along with financial flows.
[00:39:15]  People are being sent messages saying, you pay for this now, you know.
[00:39:19]  And it's a huge laundry operation.
[00:39:21]  But the crazy thing is that modern day society consists of us normies, non-insiders, and a vast parallel society literally mirrors all our institutions.
[00:39:33]  It has, you know, doctors, it has lawyers, judges, police officers, anybody.
[00:39:39]  And this huge club, as George Carlin said, there's this big club and you ain't in it.
[00:39:43]  That's that big club.
[00:39:44]  It's a parallel society, an entire parallel society being paid out of nothing but fraud.
[00:39:52]  You know, and it's really those people that need to be drained if Trump wants to be safe, and especially his descendants, because one of the points I was trying to get across to them is that it's not just Trump that they want to kill.
[00:40:04]  When you fuck with the Crown Corporation, you basically get a generational fatwa against your bloodline.
[00:40:11]  And the thinking is going back, and they are also obsessed with Jesus' bloodline and whatever.
[00:40:16]  So that aside, but the fact of the matter is that people of high integrity are typically genetically primed to be of high integrity.
[00:40:25]  Psychopaths are also genetically psychopaths.
[00:40:29]  So, you know, children have a tendency to fall into either of these two camps, right?
[00:40:34]  So when you go up against the crown and you're effective like Trump is, they will issue a generational fatwa against you and your entire bloodline, which means all of Trump's children, also Melania, all of his grandchildren, and everybody and his great-grandchildren.
[00:40:52]  And you can see that that's what happened to the Kennedys because one Kennedy after another died under suspicious circumstances.
[00:41:00]  That is exactly what's going to happen to the Trumps.
[00:41:02]  And we have basically now three years left, slightly less than three years, to sort this the hell out.
[00:41:09]  It can be done.
[00:41:09]  It can be done very quickly, just like closing the border.
[00:41:12]  But for that, people need to pull their head out of their ass.
[00:41:16]  You know, that's what needs to happen.
[00:41:18]  And it's much more serious than they can possibly understand because nobody has fully mapped this parallel society.
[00:41:26]  You know, that's the real issue.
[00:41:27]  But once you start mapping, once you actually follow the leads from Butler, from West Palm Beach, from the sniper's nest, once you actually do proper police work, which hasn't been done in this country for a very long time, you can find the whole network very quickly.
[00:41:43]  I mean, heck, I can do it with a refurbished laptop from Walmart.
[00:41:47]  And I got further than the FBI ever did, you know.
[00:41:50]  So it can be done when really big teams of people get on the case.
[00:41:55]  And especially if you use the NSA databases and map networks professionally.

=== MI6 Puppet Regimes and Fronts (15:43) ===

[00:42:01]  Now, there's one doctor who's been very explicit, but many others who believe Trump's state of health is so bad, he's not going to complete his term.
[00:42:12]  In fact, this one doctor thinks he only has two to four months to live.
[00:42:17]  What?
[00:42:18]  Listen, listen.
[00:42:20]  He's addicted to Diet Coax.
[00:42:22]  The aspartame in there, as I understand it, turns to formaldehyde in your blood.
[00:42:28]  He appears to be suffering signs of congestive heart failure.
[00:42:32]  He's addicted to McDonald's.
[00:42:34]  And we all know the nutritional quality of that kind of fast food.
[00:42:40]  He thinks Trump is in very, very dire straits.
[00:42:44]  And I don't know a reason to contradict him.
[00:42:48]  I just want to toss that out for your analysis and contemplation, how it would fit into the broader scheme of things, if true.
[00:42:58]  A couple of things, a couple of things, right?
[00:43:01]  First of all, I have been tracking Trump ever since the assassination attempt.
[00:43:07]  I've been because I'm tracking the chatter.
[00:43:09]  So I kind of like, I see when he's flying somewhere because they always put out little videos and commentary and coded symbols and so on.
[00:43:16]  So every time he flies somewhere, I kind of keep a track on where he's flying, when he's flying.
[00:43:22]  That guy, I couldn't do the schedule he's doing myself.
[00:43:26]  And I'm what, 30 years younger than him?
[00:43:29]  Almost 30 years younger.
[00:43:30]  Well, more than 30 years.
[00:43:32]  And I couldn't do his schedule.
[00:43:34]  That guy is a workhorse.
[00:43:36]  Everybody makes jokes about how he never sleeps.
[00:43:39]  And this is what he was like his entire life.
[00:43:42]  I mean, that guy is a steam engine.
[00:43:45]  If his performance reduces by 50%, he's still better than me or anybody my age, I know.
[00:43:52]  How anybody can say that his health is affected?
[00:43:56]  Gosh, I don't believe it.
[00:43:58]  Now, the second thing about being addicted to Diet Coke, yes, I know aspatame goes straight to the brain, crosses blood-brain barrier.
[00:44:05]  I know all that.
[00:44:06]  It's not very healthy.
[00:44:07]  Formaldehyde also is kind of what you use to, if you want to preserve, right, something in a jar forever.
[00:44:13]  Maybe that's what keeps him young.
[00:44:15]  I have no idea.
[00:44:16]  But, you know, the thing is about Diet Coke or just Pepsi and Coke.
[00:44:22]  The U.S. is basically a non-consensual human experimentation pod.
[00:44:28]  And if there's one thing we can be sure about is that the human body can withstand a lot of Diet Coke and Pepsi, right?
[00:44:35]  Because that's what this country is drinking.
[00:44:37]  I think he's fine on that front.
[00:44:39]  Okay.
[00:44:40]  Now, about the McDonald's food, if I were Melania, there's no way, there's no way I could put up with him having actual McDonald's, the stuff that's down there.
[00:44:52]  But they all have these private chefs.
[00:44:54]  I would literally pay the private chef extra silently on the side to make stuff fresh from organic produce and make buns and make it look like McDonald's so that it's organic inside.
[00:45:07]  And I would have my staff go to the local McDonald's and just buy the cardboard boxes and package it like them for him.
[00:45:14]  So he thinks he's getting McDonald's, but he's getting the organic version.
[00:45:17]  I have no idea.
[00:45:19]  But I don't believe he's really eating McDonald's.
[00:45:23]  I don't think so.
[00:45:25]  I think his private chef is.
[00:45:27]  And also the other thing is he cannot because the Secret Service would have to try the food.
[00:45:33]  So I think he has, you know, ingredients that are being tested and his private chef is vetted and the Secret Service keeps an eye on what he's eating and drinking.
[00:45:42]  But I'm pretty sure they're not running to McDonald's and getting that stuff for him.
[00:45:46]  No way.
[00:45:47]  No way.
[00:45:49]  You are as sympathetic to Donald Trump as any person I know well and whose intellect I respect.
[00:46:02]  Thank you.
[00:46:02]  And who is sincere and dedicated?
[00:46:06]  So why did this guy who has so many virtues as you would define them engaging in a war with Israel to destroy Iran?
[00:46:17]  Why?
[00:46:17]  What's going on there?
[00:46:19]  I think, okay, so here's the thing.
[00:46:21]  The biggest, you know what was even worse was the Gaza thing.
[00:46:27]  And what I saw about the Gaza genocide, because that's what it was.
[00:46:31]  It was a Gaza genocide brought about by the October 7th false flag, right?
[00:46:36]  Now, when that was going on, that's when I could really see him being physically affected.
[00:46:44]  I was more concerned about him at that point.
[00:46:49]  And remember, that was the time when he went to the helicopter and said to the press, these people have been fighting each other for so long, they don't know what the fuck they're doing, right?
[00:46:58]  And I think I could see that at that point, his patience was wearing extremely thin.
[00:47:03]  But then again, he also has been dealing with Deutsche Bank and the bankers long enough to know that Israel is really the private fiefdom of the Rothschilds.
[00:47:13]  The Rothschilds run the world as the money managers of the Illuminati bloodlines who used to provide, or you know, who are basically supplying the popes.
[00:47:23]  So there's only you can only do stuff in a very limited way as a US president, funnily enough, right?
[00:47:31]  Now, that was Gaza, and I could see that he was physically affected as far as I could tell.
[00:47:36]  And it was really going under his skin.
[00:47:39]  He just, you know.
[00:47:41]  Now, with the Iran war, he has been saying for a very long time that it is a terrorist regime.
[00:47:46]  And everybody agreed.
[00:47:47]  And also, by the way, what's funny is how the entire left has changed their tune because they themselves have been saying Iran is such a threat.
[00:47:56]  And remember, it was just a couple of months ago where supposedly Iranian, that was long before the war, Iranian hit squads were out to get Trump.
[00:48:05]  The Iranians published that video with drones blowing up, you know, around Mar-a-Lago and so on.
[00:48:11]  So the whole Iranian-Iranian threat has been pumped.
[00:48:15]  Now, I personally believe that was all fake to start with because the Iranian regime was only ever a puppet regime of the CI and MI6 and Mossad.
[00:48:24]  And they had to have this baddie regime to keep this duality going, the order out of chaos, right?
[00:48:30]  The two sides, black and white of the Masonic chessboard.
[00:48:33]  They need black to be able to play chess.
[00:48:36]  They need these baddies.
[00:48:38]  And also they need chaos in a country because it opens up all the trafficking lines through Iran, right?
[00:48:44]  Anything that you want to traffic from the war zones of Iraq, Afghanistan, you know, just shuffle them around.
[00:48:51]  They need, they absolutely need countries in chaos.
[00:48:55]  The complete anti-antithis to CI, MI6 shit fuckery are well-run countries with full transparency.
[00:49:04]  They hate that, where you have happy families and everybody knows everybody and supports everybody.
[00:49:10]  You can't run prostitution rings and child trafficking in a society like that, where everybody's happily married, you know.
[00:49:17]  So that's the thing.
[00:49:19]  Now, Iran, I think he was right.
[00:49:21]  It was, it is a horrific regime.
[00:49:25]  I mean, they have been executing people.
[00:49:27]  They have been giving out punishments and lashings for the most ludicrous stuff.
[00:49:33]  And since the 1980s, I think was the interview with him when he said that people need to go in and just get rid of them.
[00:49:40]  And, you know, I had a discussion with Bill the other day because I told him that you are of the opinion that Iraq, the Iraq regime was never as bad as it was portrayed.
[00:49:49]  Now, next time we need to.
[00:49:53]  Sorry, I didn't want to mix it with Iraq.
[00:49:55]  Iran, yeah.
[00:49:57]  And he was saying how he was tracking the terrorist activity coming out of Iran.
[00:50:03]  So the bit that he can talk about because he used only public information was Iranian front companies in Dubai and other places manufacturing IEDs that were then being used in, you know, in Iraq, in Afghanistan to blow up American soldiers and international soldiers, right?
[00:50:23]  But those companies were Iranian companies.
[00:50:27]  And that's what he was tracking.
[00:50:29]  So again, why would you have this sort of network?
[00:50:34]  And it makes sense when you think, hang on, if the Iranian regime is a puppet regime of MI6 and CIA, you really have MI6 and CIA front companies doing this.
[00:50:46]  They control both sides.
[00:50:48]  They have to keep the whole shtick with the Islamist terrorists going, which, by the way, was an invention for 9/11, right?
[00:50:56]  That's when all the shit started.
[00:50:58]  Before that, you know, Islamist terrorists were not as big a thing.
[00:51:03]  They were trying to make it, but it just didn't take off, you know?
[00:51:07]  That was Bibi's propaganda play.
[00:51:09]  You know, bamped out 9-11.
[00:51:12]  Now, remember, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
[00:51:17]  They're developing those explosive devices to defeat the invader, the Americans who don't belong here.
[00:51:24]  They got the big Satan and the little Satan.
[00:51:27]  So if you look at it from their point of view, it's not that they're engaging in terrorist activity.
[00:51:32]  They're engaging in guerrilla warfare.
[00:51:35]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[00:51:38]  Absolutely.
[00:51:39]  And, you know, that's how they recruit in the country.
[00:51:42]  They are recruiting young men in the country precisely with that.
[00:51:46]  You know, they think of themselves as freedom fighters.
[00:51:48]  And why shouldn't they?
[00:51:49]  I mean, you know, people are in their country fucking it up as far as they can tell.
[00:51:54]  Yeah.
[00:51:54]  But, you know, the whole thing is that none of this should have happened because we had 9-11.
[00:52:00]  And the only reason people walked into, or, you know, the U.S. Army went into Afghanistan was under the pretext of 9-11, which we also know was Mossad and CI and MI6, right?
[00:52:11]  The same reason with the Iraq war.
[00:52:14]  If you watch this movie In the Loop, so it's a movie you can get on all the streaming platforms.
[00:52:20]  In the Loop is about the Iraq war.
[00:52:22]  And one of the characters, one of the played by a famous actor, thin guy, you know, wiry guy, goes around, swears a lot.
[00:52:30]  At some point in the movie, he is called Eggman or referred to it as Eggman.
[00:52:35]  Well, Eggman was the code name of Sir John Scarlett MI6, chief of MI6.
[00:52:41]  So in other words, in that movie, it's pretty much explained to insiders within the intel agencies how Sir John Scarlett was sent over to bully everybody in the US government to make them invade Iraq.
[00:52:56]  And there we have it, right?
[00:52:57]  We have an MI6 officer, you know, bullying everybody in the U.S. government and using them as a kind of a puppet colony and using them as cannon fodder to invade Iraq.
[00:53:08]  So again, you have MI6 pulling the strings.
[00:53:11]  It all goes back to the top-level intel agencies, which are Mossad and MI6.
[00:53:16]  Above them, it's the Jesuits.
[00:53:18]  If you keep going above that, you get to the management board of the Crown Corporation.
[00:53:24]  Yeah, but all this is a lie.
[00:53:26]  Look, I think let's remember the Iranian regime was put in place by force by the intelligence agencies, right?
[00:53:34]  As was the Shah of Iran before that, you know.
[00:53:37]  And then we get back to their symbol, which is the snake biting its own tail, the symbol of eternal revolution, which is either the snake or the infinity symbol, you know, and they just keep cycling baddies because they need this churn.
[00:53:51]  They need upheaval in a country.
[00:53:54]  They can't have just civilized, educated, you know, forward-looking Western nations in the Middle East.
[00:54:01]  Now, Wesley Clark was in the Pentagon shortly after 9-11 and had an encounter with a general who told him we were planning to invade Iraq.
[00:54:12]  And they both thought that was very peculiar because Iraq had, they agreed, had nothing to do with 9-11.
[00:54:18]  So he's back weeks later, runs into the same general and asks, are we still planning to invade Iraq?
[00:54:25]  And he says, oh, no, sir.
[00:54:27]  Situation far more serious.
[00:54:29]  We just got a memorandum from Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld.
[00:54:32]  We're planning to overthrow the government to seven countries in the next five years.
[00:54:37]  And Clark said, well, is it classified?
[00:54:40]  Oh, yes, sir.
[00:54:40]  And Clark said, well, don't tell me, don't let me see it.
[00:54:43]  I may want to talk about it.
[00:54:46]  But what he was eventually at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco in 2007, Wesley Clark explained the plan to overthrow seven countries in the next five years, and they all just happened to be Arabic nations that threatened Israel's domination of the entire region, then capped off by the Persian nation of Iran.
[00:55:10]  And we went about systematically invading each Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, more and more.
[00:55:17]  Eventually, Syria and Iran were the last, and now Syria has fallen.
[00:55:22]  So many, including Paul Creighton Roberts, believe that this Iran thing is really just finishing off the 9-11 agenda for the sake of the greater Israel.
[00:55:33]  And I think that's 100% correct.
[00:55:37]  It is.
[00:55:38]  I completely agree with that.
[00:55:40]  And that's why Bibi Netanyahu is still working this plan.
[00:55:43]  Also, there's more backing to this because there's another in the financial domain.
[00:55:48]  These countries that were invaded one after the other, all of them got taken over.
[00:55:52]  And those who didn't have a central bank tied to the Bank of International Settlement in Basel, Switzerland, got one.
[00:56:03]  And there's very few countries that don't have a central bank that's run that way.
[00:56:07]  And you could see them if you map the financial line, how all those countries were taken down, and every single one got hooked up to the financial, this financial crime cartel.
[00:56:17]  So that's also happening.
[00:56:19]  And Iran is one of those countries, I think, that doesn't have a central bank that's hooked to the BIS.
[00:56:24]  I promise you, it will have one soon, right?
[00:56:27]  It will have one very soon.
[00:56:29]  We disagree.
[00:56:30]  We disagree, Catherine.
[00:56:32]  There's no way the U.S. and Israel can defeat Iran.
[00:56:35]  There's just no way.
[00:56:37]  And then China and Russia have been very explicit about supporting Iran.
[00:56:42]  Putin has even told Israel that if they nuke Iran, Russia will nuke Israel.
[00:56:48]  I think it's game over, and Iran has prevailed.
[00:56:52]  And sending these troops to take this great at Hormuz.
[00:56:56]  Look, I'm a former Marine Corps officer.
[00:56:59]  I know about amphibious landing.
[00:57:00]  It's a suicide mission.
[00:57:02]  Catherine, there's no way this is going to succeed.
[00:57:05]  They're all going to come back in body bags and flag-draped coffins.
[00:57:10]  Sad to say.
[00:57:12]  Yeah.
[00:57:13]  Yeah.
[00:57:14]  Well, I think that I'm not sure.
[00:57:18]  I mean, Russia and China have to say it because this whole thing has to be the keeping the scam going is more important than any one particular little battlefield.
[00:57:29]  So the big, biggest scam of them all, I think, is that Russia and China are long taken over by this cabal.
[00:57:36]  I mean, all these big industrialists in Russia, like Oleg Daripaska, the other guy, Abramovich, they were all Rothschild men.

=== The Global Cabal Scam (02:29) ===

[00:57:45]  They run the show.
[00:57:47]  So how can Russia be, you know, that different and that independent?
[00:57:52]  And what about China?
[00:57:53]  It has all the Western companies.
[00:57:55]  All the companies of the Cabal are located in China.
[00:57:59]  They would never be located there if the Cabal were not already controlling China.
[00:58:04]  The way I look at China and Russia is that when they had the genocides, the communist genocides, that's when the cabal took them over.
[00:58:11]  Because it's never in the interest of a military to massacre their own cannon fodder to the tunes of tens of millions, right?
[00:58:19]  It's suicide.
[00:58:20]  I mean, you need your own people to fight a foreign enemy.
[00:58:23]  The only time a military mass massacres their own population to the tune of tens of millions is when they are taken over by a foreign power, because it's very much in the interest of a foreign power to decimate a country.
[00:58:38]  So I think the communist takeovers were the banking crime cartel taking over the leadership of China and Russia.
[00:58:45]  And they orchestrated it.
[00:58:47]  They massacred anybody who could possibly go up against them.
[00:58:50]  And they have been running these places ever since.
[00:58:53]  And what we're seeing about Russia and China being different from the West, that's all kabuki theater.
[00:59:00]  I genuinely believe that.
[00:59:01]  Because, hey, by the way, they have a central bank.
[00:59:04]  It's tied in.
[00:59:05]  It's tied in.
[00:59:06]  The same fiat currency bullshit, you know.
[00:59:11]  Catherine, you and Bill are so gracious to engage in these conversations with me on a weekly basis.
[00:59:17]  You are entitled to the last word.
[00:59:21]  Oh, my gosh.
[00:59:23]  I just want to thank you so much.
[00:59:26]  Another fascinating conversation.
[00:59:28]  And I think you've given all of us a lot to think about regarding Trump's place in the broader scheme of things, for which I'm enormously grateful.
[00:59:38]  And I want you to give Bill my sincere best wishes on dealing with this.
[00:59:44]  You and he have had far more than your share of targeting by forces that don't want you to speak the truths.
[00:59:53]  You speak so eloquently on occasions such as this, for which I'm enormously grateful.
[00:59:59]  Thank you for the kind words.
[01:00:01]  Gosh.
[01:00:02]  I thank you, Catherine, and give Bill my very best.
[01:00:07]  And I look forward to next week when we meet again.
[01:00:11]  Thank you.
[01:00:13]  Wonderful.