The Raw Deal (16 January 2026) with special featured guest, Mary Tocco
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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, right here on Studio B Revolution Radio the 16th day of January 2026, joined today by my special feature guest, Mary Toko.
Susan Lindauer, so insensitive by my first story that she wanted to join as well, I hope she shows.
Here we have breaking news.
Venezuelan opposition leader gives Trump her peace prize.
This is so unbelievably insulting.
Venezuela.
President Trump said Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Gordina Machado gave him her Nobel Peace Prize during the meeting at the White House on Thursday.
Ms. Marchado said she had made the presentation as a recognition for recognition for his unique commitment to our freedom.
Mr. Trump said it was a wonderful gesture for the work I have done.
Mr. Trump has openly coveted the prize of the Nobel Committee and said the peace prize itself is not transferable, no matter who possesses the medal.
This is insulting beyond belief.
The man campaigned as a peace guy.
He was going to resolve the war in Ukraine between Russia and Ukraine in 24 hours.
Instead, he's sent Zoevsky all kinds of support, though now he's shifted the burden to the EU and NATO.
He has bombed Iran.
He's given Israel all the weapons and bobs it needs to continue the genocide in Gaza.
He's now invaded the national sovereignty of Venezuela and kidnapped its president in violation of international law, the UN Charter, the Geneva Conventions.
This is outrageous.
Mary, I find this insulting beyond belief, and it raises serious doubts about the character of this Maria Corona Machado, whom I suspect might even be an Israeli asset.
Your thoughts?
You know, Jim, I am not qualified to really give an opinion about all of this.
I hear so many things from so many different angles.
And honestly, Jim, I like to just stick to what I know.
But I do know that my prayers are always up with this country.
My prayers go out there all the time because, you know, God help us with what's going on in this world.
Yes, yes, yes.
God help us indeed.
Here's a virtually antithetical piece.
International Common Law Court of Justice has issued a public indictment of Donald J. Trump for tyranny, treason, and mass murder.
On September 1st, 2025, the court received a petition from a coalition of American citizens gathered in sovereign constitutional assemblies asking for an international legal judgment concerning the criminal conduct of Donald J. Trump and the validity of the American presidential election of November 5th, 2024.
In accordance with the court's formative mandated June 15, 2010, which allows it to adjudicate criminal matters in any nation, the court accepted the petition and since has investigated the issue it raised throughout its work.
The court has relied on American legal precedents, constitutional statutes, congressional investigation, and the principles of international law governing the criminal liability of heads of state.
This legal judgment is the result of that investigation.
It is issued with a solemn recognition that it is the right and obligation of free people everywhere to defend democracy and assist in the overthrow of tyranny.
This matter has assumed even greater weight since the court accepted the petition because of recent acts of war and international piracy committed by Donald Trump against Venezuela and other non-belligerent nations, as well as new evidence received by the court that indicates Donald Trump's criminal complicity in the trafficking, disappearance, and death of children and others.
Public indictment of three counts.
The court charges that first, Donald J. Trump, as a convicted felon who is impeached by the United States Congress for abuse of power, obstructing justice, inciting insurrection and treason.
And I believe, by the way, all those charges were phony, did unlawfully and unconstitutionally assume the office of President of the United States, and in that capacity has launched unlawful assaults on the liberties of Americans and against world peace and stability by autocratic executive orders, rules by decree, and illegal military assaults and international piracy against non-belligerent nations.
And therefore, Trump and his regime constitute an illegitimate tyranny and rogue criminal power under international law.
Second, Donald J. Trump is the instigator and participant in a murderous criminal conspiracy to kidnap, traffic, enslave, exploit, imprison, and torture men, women, and children for profit in association with other members of his government and corporate and religious officials, and that Trump operates this criminal enterprise and perpetuates these crimes against humanity through his office of President of the United States and his head of Trump International Incorporated.
Third, Donald J. Trump is personally responsible for the trafficking, enslavement, and ritual, rape, torture, and murder of women and children through his involvement with the activities of Jeffrey Epstein, Andrew Windsor, senior Vatican prelates, and other members of the Ninth Circle in other ritual calls.
Fascinating.
They could not be more opposite.
One praising him as a peace guy, the other indicting him as an international criminal.
Mary, I don't want, again, to put you on the spot.
If you have any comments, you're most welcome to make them.
Well, I believe that I voted for Donald Trump, and I believe that he's got a lot more going on than we'll ever know.
You know, we are, we are, I'm not as informed as you are about these things as far as outside the world, but I know that he's doing a lot of good, I believe, here.
You know, it's such a big problem.
It's such a huge problem.
But as a Christian, I believe, again, this is based on my beliefs, that Donald Trump is being used of God and that there's a lot more to this than we'll ever know.
There's a lot of false news going out all over the place.
In fact, I'm humble enough to admit that I often come to my own conclusions, which perhaps are even wrong.
So, Jim, I can't really comment on what's going on around the world because I'm really focused on what's going on in our country.
when it comes to children, when it comes to our health.
You know, statistically, our country is supposedly the greatest country in the world, and yet we have more sick children and more illness and more problems than any other country.
32 other countries have better health than we do.
So, you know, that's what my focus has been on more so.
I feel like I'm putting out fires here and not necessarily aware of what's going on around us.
It's too overwhelming for the average person.
Mary, that's just fine.
I do appreciate it.
Meanwhile, do we have some other stories here?
Russia has a line against Trump's threats against Iran.
Pretty serious stuff.
So let's talk about Iran.
Of course, Trump and Israel and Netanyahu want to completely destroy Iran.
And what's been happening lately is that the CIA and Mossad have been infiltrating Iran and providing weapons and coordination for provocateurs to start a bunch of protests in Iran and then to kill people, including killing law enforcement in Iran.
And that's been happening over the last week.
And of course, it's a completely external force.
And the entire reason that Iran's currency has been plunging is because of Western sanctions and also coordinated globalist banking attacks on Iran's currency.
So this is all external.
And it's all part of a color revolution carried out by Western forces.
It's a regime change operation to try to overthrow the leadership of Iran, the Khomeini or Khomeini.
I think that's how you pronounce it.
The Ayatollah.
And then Israel would control all the Middle East uncontested.
And the gateway to Russia would be controlled by Israel.
And Israel would control the Strait of Hormuz and effectively the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Arabia and all the routes and resources, etc.
That's what this is all about.
So everything you are told about Iran by the West is a lie.
Of course it is.
Just like everything you were told about Iraq, weapons of mass destruction, yellow cake, uranium, whatever it was.
It was all made up.
Weapons of mass destruction.
They fabricated all of it then, just like they do now.
Only idiots believe anything that Western governments tell them about the Middle East.
So what's really happening is just an attempted color revolution overthrow.
And Trump was poised to bomb Iran.
And the B-2 stealth bombers were already stationed at the Diego Garcia military base there.
And also, by the way, carrier group has been dispatched to the area.
I think it's in the Red Sea right now.
I'm not sure exactly where it is, but it's somewhere around there.
And Trump was ready to bomb Iran.
And he even tweeted out on his truth social, which should just be called Trump Social, tweeted out, the people of Iran should overthrow their institutions, overthrow their government, basically, is what he's saying.
So he's actually calling for an insurrection of a foreign nation and he's meddling in foreign nations, even though he campaigned on getting us out of such conflicts in the Middle East and he campaigned on peace.
He has, of course, given the finger to his entire base, and he's doing the bidding of Israel.
Well, guess what?
Russia issued a stern warning to the United States and caused Trump to back off.
Trump backed off the attack plans, held a press conference, said that he now realized that Iran wasn't killing as many protesters.
which is just a cover story, and that we're not going to attack right now.
And then other information came out that the U.S. really couldn't achieve regime change, which is exactly what Scott Ritter has been saying for days, and that the U.S. wasn't really prepared to do this, et cetera, et cetera.
That's all a cover story.
The real reason is because Russia threatened to nuke Europe and the United States or strike with Oreshnik missiles that could not be stopped by the United States.
So Russia issued a stern warning with a statement that I'll get into here.
So the Russian foreign ministry issued a public statement, but I also suspect that there was messaging behind the scenes that said the United States will face, quote, disastrous consequences if it engages in fresh aggression towards Iran and that these disastrous consequences would also spill over into global insecurity.
Russia said the situation is dangerously volatile and that it could push the entire region toward wider instability.
It also said that the United States has no right to claim that there's civil unrest inside Iran as a justification for military strikes.
But of course, that's what the U.S. always does when they want to bomb somebody.
They say, oh, we're going to free those people by bombing their country.
Yeah.
And then Russia said that the United States should be under no illusion about the repercussions, saying, quote, those who plan to use externally inspired unrest as a pretext for repeating the aggression against Iran committed in June of 2025 must be aware of the disastrous consequences of such actions for the situation in the Middle East and global international security.
But Iran itself issued another warning and said, quote, we will respond powerfully to any kind of attack against us and will not allow anyone to threaten us.
And he talked about all the U.S. bases in the region and that any country that assists Washington, D.C., probably including Qatar, would be viewed as legitimate targets.
This is all very important.
Mike Adams makes an extremely clear statement, and it's reinforced by Colonel Wilkerson.
Iran war Napolitano who has fabulous gas Now, Colonel Lawrence, Colonel Larry, a pleasure, my dear friend.
Thank you very much for your time.
I want to pick your brain on the likely ramifications of an Israeli U.S. war against Iran.
But before we get there, some of the other incredibly dangerous and crazy things that happened this weekend, the president of the United States has posted a photograph of himself on his own website under which he has proclaimed himself to be the acting president of Venezuela.
Is this behavior one should expect of a president of the United States?
No, one wonders what has been coordinated with the current regime in Venezuela, though.
I doubt that they would have accepted that, but one never knows when you bring the ultimate power of the United States, economy-wise, really, to bear on them.
Lula's backed off, for example, his very energetic approach within BRICS to de-dollarize.
They were making some fairly substantial progress.
It was going to take a long time, but they were making progress.
And already they're doing commodity trades and so forth in Real and Remembrance and other currencies in the dollar.
He backed off of it.
He backed off of it completely because we threatened him.
So there's no telling what might be happening now in Caracas.
This is a gangster presidency.
Do as I say, or I'll come into your bedroom in the middle of the night and steal you and your wife and put you in a jail cell in Brooklyn, New York.
Trump, yeah, there is nothing.
There is one thing, my own morality, my own mind.
It's the only thing that can stop me.
Well, that was going to be my next question.
So is the Constitution, are U.S. treaties, are commercial contracts of no value?
Before you answer, here's him saying those exact words.
Number two, Chris.
Do you see any checks on your power on the world stage?
Is there anything that could stop you if you wanted to?
Yeah, there's one thing.
My own morality, my own mind.
It's the only thing that can stop.
And that's very good.
I don't need international law.
I'm not looking to hurt people.
What does he mean?
He's not looking to hurt people.
He murdered over 200 people, 100 on the high seas, 40 asleep in their barracks, another 50 or 60 inside the presidential compound in order to seize President Maduro.
So what standards do we have if the president's first fidelity is to my own mind?
And how about aiding and abetting the death of, if Ralph Nader is right this morning, his release of Francesca Albaniz's latest report, somewhere between 100 and 500,000 Palestinians.
And I don't think that's an exaggeration, having looked at what's happened over the past 715 days or so and the murderous campaign they're conducting.
Even the official count in Caza, the official count from the Hamas Health Ministry is 65,000, of which 75% are women and children.
So Trump is a killing machine in that regard.
And let's not forget what he's doing right now.
What they've been doing, they being Mossad, principally, but CIA and MI6, all backed by Donald Trump and his money, what they've been doing in Iran is acting as if they were Iranian citizens and killing Iranians and burning and pillaging and plundering.
It's 1953 against Mohamed Mossadegh on steroids and on high technology provided mostly by the United States and Israel.
That's what this protest in Iran has been all about.
There have been some genuine protests, no question about it.
Inflation's high.
Bread's not very cheap.
You can't hardly get along if you're an average Iranian.
But their ire is not so much with their government as it is with the IRGC stealing their money and with the sanctions, which almost any Iranian on the street will tell you is the first reason they're having trouble.
So what we did was send Kermit Roosevelt, the latest version thereof, into Iran, and he failed.
And now we're looking at the results of that failure.
And God only knows what's going to happen now.
Chris, Mike Pompeo's full screen.
I only have to read the last line.
Well, I'll read the first and the last line.
The Iranian regime is in trouble bringing in mercenaries as its last best hope.
I don't know what he's talking about, mercenaries.
But look at this last line, Colonel.
Happy New Year to every Iranian in the streets, also to every Mossad agent walking beside them.
If a donation makes sense for you right now, I'm asking you to pitch in to the Democratic Party's.
Why the hell would he say that?
We know that's happening, but why does he acknowledge it?
He's the former director of the CIA and the former Secretary of State of the United States.
And that's the only line in that little series that's true.
Absolutely true.
The protests ended yesterday, for all intents and purposes, and things are calming down pretty much, partly because they understand how imminent it might be that either Iran preempts and destroys Israel, or Iran is attacked and widens the attack quickly into Al-Yudid and Qatar and perhaps other places that the U.S. is located in the region.
Barry, let me, you know, I would invite your comments if there's anything you'd like to add.
It seemed to me, just for your understanding, I voted for Donald Trump three times.
I've been at Clinton.
I voted for Clinton twice.
I voted for Barack Obama twice.
But when Donald came down the escalator, I felt a breath of fresh air sweeping the country.
He turned the Republican into a populist party, which I thought was absolutely sensational.
It was a hostile takeover that succeeded.
But since he came into office, even though he campaigned as a peace guy, he's turned out, especially during the second term, to be a warmonger.
Now, that's what has affected my attitude.
I do believe he has done a lot of good with the U.S.
I believe in closing the borders.
I believe in, you know, removing a lot of these illegals from the country.
I believe in getting men out of women's sports.
And I don't like the transgender business at all.
I think you're doing a lot of good with the country, but in foreign policy, in my judgment, he's been a catastrophe.
So here I am calling him out on that ground.
So I just want you to understand, actually, I've been very supportive of Donald Trump, very, in the past, but I cannot ignore what's taking place before my very eyes and calling him out for what he's doing wrong.
Your thoughts.
I'm a Christian, and I believe in the book of Revelation, and I believe we're in the midst of what I call the end times.
These are the birth pains of end times.
So I expect our world to get crazier.
I expect to get more violence.
I expect the white Christians to be persecuted.
I expect the world to be going crazy because this is all in the Bible.
So as a Christian, I pray about it.
I thank God every day that I have peace, that I have a place to live, that I have food, that I'm alive, that I have good health.
And I just, I mean, it's so overwhelming what's going on out there.
I just have to trust that the Bible, Revelation, the book of Revelation is pretty much, we're in process.
And all I've ever done, Jim, is just try to focus on our country and our children and our families.
You know, America is getting a lot of what America deserves.
America got out of the schools years ago.
America let big pharma cartel take over this country, take over our CDC and our FDA.
America has very sick children.
I believe three generations of people have been harmed by what they're doing.
And so I'm not surprised.
I am a little surprised over what Donald Trump is doing, but there's probably a lot more to this than I know and than even what you know.
And yet I know that you have an incredible background in this whole arena of international affairs.
I don't.
I just keep praying, Jim.
And again, I wake up every day grateful that we live in America.
I'm glad they're getting people out of this country that don't belong here lawfully.
I'm glad that they're, you know, exposing the fraud going on, all of the money leaving our country by people who have fake daycares and fake travel agencies.
And, you know, I think we're just going to, we're just touching on the top of the fraud that's going on in our own country.
And I feel like we've been taken over.
We've been taken over.
And so I live each day doing the best that I can, trying to be a light in this world of darkness, because it is a dark world.
Mary, I appreciate all of that.
I'm going to throw in a couple of stories before we turn to your critique of what's going on in terms of public medicine, health, and human services, RFK Jr., the vaccine schedule, and all that.
Phil Geraldi.
Yeah, Phil Giraldi on the.
The reason your nose is always blocked.
It's not what you think.
You're not sick, but you always feel like you are.
Be overlooked.
Here we are back again with Judge Nepala DeFran joining us.
What is the benefit for the average American from the invasion of Venezuela and kidnapping of President Maduro?
Stand by.
Got a break.
Be right back, but thank you very much again.
We'll be right back after this message.
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And now we return you to your host.
I'm here with Mary Tocco.
We're completing review of some major stories before we turn to her vast interest and knowledge about medical developments here, including children's health.
That will be the larger part of the show today.
Meanwhile, here we have Judge Nab with Phil Geraldo.
Well, I suspect you would have to say it's not a question of a benefit.
Is probably a deficit in terms of what the United States will be spending to not get rich off of Venezuela and oil, except for, of course, a few billionaire friends of the president.
But the rest of us are not going to benefit in any way.
Oil will not be cheaper.
It's going to take a year to get this program going if, and spending a half billion dollars to do so.
So there's not going to be anything there.
And the whole idea that we were being threatened by terrorism, narco-terrorists, everything was a fiction anyway.
So Americans will not be safer as a result of this.
So I think you have to say that the whole benefit is something that's accrued to the very narrow political class, which will be making money off of this in one way or another, and will be gaining political advantages of various kinds by lying and manipulating the situation.
And we're seeing that going on every 10 minutes.
I'm just watching wires coming over about the poor Greenlanders who are trying to talk sense with Rubio and the vice president.
And of course, that's a pointless task.
Wow.
I would imagine that some of the president's billionaire buddies like Paul Singer, the significant, the most important donor in Marco Rubio's career, who now owns Sitgo, bought it at a fire sale at about 30 cents on the dollar.
He will benefit from this in some long-term way.
He's not a young man, but in some long-term way, he and his heirs will benefit from it.
Yeah, that's precisely what will happen.
He bought it at the bottom price that could be negotiated for it.
And I remember when Sitco was very active in places like Texas, but obviously we did our best to destroy it.
And Donald Trump was a hand in that in his first term in office.
And so now it was something cheap to pick up.
And if the U.S. maintains some kind of control over what's going on in Venezuela, Mr. Singer will become uncountably rich.
Isn't it interesting?
You mentioned the fiction of narco-terrorism.
Those murders on the high seas have all stopped now.
I don't know if that's because I could be sarcastic and say, oh, well, after we invaded Venezuela, the drug dealers have all gone home, or the president, who has a notoriously short attention span, is now focusing on something else, probably Iran, because Netanyahu and company are driving him crazy until he does something about that.
Yeah, I think he's decided that we're moving on to another game now.
And this is the big one.
Iran certainly is the big objective of the neocons and of the Israel lobby, which basically were the ones that even helped drive the attack on Venezuela by conjuring up these incredible stories about how Middle Eastern terrorists were basically using Venezuela as a base to attack the United States and do it.
other nefarious things.
All of this, of course, was nonsense.
And This is what the Israeli lobby is very good at, and it's clearly what the neocons who are not necessarily in the lobby but are kind of attached to the money that it throws around, like a Rubio.
And this is what they're interested in seeing and doing.
Let me add one final story to the mix here before we turn to Mary's discussion and critique, namely Joaquina Gold Pitt, Zionist Israel's hidden hand behind every major breaking news story today.
It begins, and you can find this on my blog at jameshwetzer.org, by the Trump White House owned mission, based on published first-hand accounts of Nicholas Maduro Security Services.
During the early hours of January 3rd, the U.S. Delta Force commandos fired off a reported sonic or directed energy weapon to paralyze the Venezuelan security forces guarding their present within 12 minutes.
They blasted their automatic weapons, firing an estimated 300 rounds per minute, killing over 100 Venezuelan troops and Maduro and his wife.
All the while, raboredly, not a single American soldier was even injured.
A U.S. Intel source commented on the Venezuelan country, responding that it was a direct energy weapon.
Some of the systems can cause bleeding, intense pain-burning sensation, complete physical incapacitation.
Another tangentially related warfront, according to January 12th Flame magazine, Yoshi Benguill, one of the world's most influential artificial intelligence researchers and a pioneer of modern deep learning systems, is warning that the rapid advance of AI will eventually make every job category vulnerable to automation, including skilled trades long assumed to be resistant to technological replacement.
In other words, governments and their public masters want us humans dead, having outlived our usefulness to a threatened oligarchic elite seeking mechanomania control on Earth.
That's why it's no accident.
Incidents like the Minneapolis protest shooting recently occurred.
Renee Nicole Good, a trained leftist protester, shot three times in the head last week by a trigger habit ICE agent as she attempted to drive away in her SUV.
She is the latest killed in action fatality in the divide and rule left versus right battlefield, fomenting the latest outrage and mass demonstration throughout America this last week.
Just to add a couple points about those paragraphs, I did an interview with Dr. Catherine Horton, who is a PhD particle physicist from Oxford, very an expert in the area of directed energy weapons, and she confirmed that in her judgment, this was an electromagnetic pulse weapon that was being used there.
I have another commentator suggesting the rounds of which they were firing could have been even higher, even 300 rounds per second.
And during my conversation with Catherine, it became apparent that she believes, and I am convinced, these soldiers may very well have been chipped to make them more accurate in their firing and their targeting, very much on the order of RoboCop.
For those who remember the film, I would think that we're talking about a new class of super soldiers, as it were, by turning human beings into something akin to robotic machines.
Phil Giraldi is, of course, quite a brilliant guy.
Everyone I've been presiding here is truly expert.
Mary, your thoughts about any of the above before we turn to your areas of expertise.
Well, I believe we've been using electric pulse therapy to cause a lot of weather disruption in this country.
I believe that it's been used in many different capacities.
I think you might know I was a radio host for about two and a half years with Republic Broadcasting Radio back in 2011, 12, 13.
And I interviewed experts on this topic about HARP up in Antarctica, how we were using it to modify weather, how it was affecting our oceans, how it was killing our bees.
I mean, we've been, they've been doing this kind of stuff behind our back.
And then you look at the chemtrails that they've been spewing all of this garbage on us to block the sun because the sun is bad, the sun is evil, and we can't have the global warming stuff, right?
And then also, senior citizens have been chipped.
This chip has been around for 15 to 20 years.
I researched it in detail after attending a conference somewhere in the United States.
I don't even remember where, but this chip has been around for years.
They've been injecting seniors in case they get out of nursing homes so they can find them.
So, you know, I'm not surprised that all of this is going on in the world around us.
Furthermore, wanting people dead, Bill Gates has been trying to reduce population for years and years and years.
He's been using vaccines.
In fact, there's a video, it's kind of hard to find, but people can find it, of him speaking at a TED talk saying we must reduce the carbon footprint.
You know, he's all about carbon footprint.
And the best way to do it is through better family services, which he's talking about abortion.
His father started the abortion industry in this country.
Then he says better family control, like birth control, referencing birth control.
And then he says better vaccines.
Well, how do you reduce the population through better vaccines?
You put infertility chemicals in it so that you can cause infertility around the world.
And they've been doing that in this country with our Gardasil vaccine.
So this has been my area that makes me hot under the collar.
I've been doing this, Jim, for over 35, 40 years.
I started researching in 1979.
I decided to, my husband, the father of my five children, is a chiropractor.
We decided we were never going to get involved with the medical system, that we were not going to vaccinate our children.
Because even back then, I have a whole bookshelf here of books that I ordered back then in the 80s and the 90s talking about the dangers of vaccines.
So we decided that we were never going to vaccinate our children.
In fact, we pulled out of the whole raise your children with the pediatrician stuff.
So I have five grown children, never saw a pediatrician, never did a jab, never had a prescription.
Instead, we focused on holistic healing, on natural health, on chiropractic.
And I'll tell you what, I've watched this crisis in America grow in front of my eyes.
When they started increasing the vaccine, the vaccine numbers in this country, I watched the whole thing.
I was attending conferences yearly and in different parts of the country about what are we doing to our children, what kind of toxins are in these vaccines.
And I mean, I've just watched this whole thing blow up in our country.
We have a crisis right here in our own backyard.
And that's where my focus has been, Jim.
Well, Mary, that's all fascinating.
We're sure on the same wavelength here.
Yes, I regard Bill Gates as one of the monster criminals of humanity of world history.
I mean, he's not just an incidental little blip on the screen.
He's been a major mover and player in promoting this anti-humanity agenda.
I mean, life is carbon-based.
If you reduce the carbon-based, you're reducing the potential for life on Earth.
It's like this absurdity reducing the role of the sun.
Without the sun, there'd be no life on Earth.
This is just absurd.
It's like the whole global warming hoax.
Actually, Earth, in terms of its average temperature, is the lowest average temperature for the planet over 400 million years.
The whole thing is absurd.
CO2 is indispensable for the production of water and of air, which are necessities of life and has the effect of cooling the earth in three or four different dimensions.
I've done a whole series on this with Joe Wolson, who's a brilliant engineer, qualified across the board in electrical, mechanical, structural, and civil, only not in aeronautical.
But we have really done the job on that.
And let me conjecture, Mary, that as in the case of the armies, children are very healthy, where autism is non-existent, that your kids have grown up very healthy and competent.
In fact, I'd say more so than the average American child who's subjected to these vaccine schedules that are only designed to make profits for big pharma.
Absolutely.
I have actually had the pleasure and the honor of being a regular speaker for the Amish community all around the country.
And when I go, whenever I go, I always ask them, are you still not vaccinating?
Majority, 95, 99% of them do not vaccinate.
Okay.
And guess what I hear all the time?
Our children are healthy.
We don't have ADHD.
We don't have autism.
We don't have diabetes.
We don't have asthma.
We don't have food allergies.
We don't have, you know, all of these diabetes.
And it's really, it's fascinating too, because, and I've got, I've got footage of this.
When I'm out, I'm speaking in these huge, big fields.
They put up big circus tents, and there's thousands of people there.
I think the last one I went to was called Family Farm Days, and it was in Pennsylvania.
Children were out in the middle of this big, huge field that was just recently cut down so they could do this big, you know, conference, running around barefoot all day long, running around barefoot, happy, excited, you know.
And, you know, to me, we need to get back to our basics here.
Big pharma, I call the pharmaceutical God, has taken over this country.
And they have everyone programmed to believe that vaccines have saved lives, that they're necessary, and that we can't live without them.
And all of that is just a bold-faced lie.
We've got, you know, they own the universities.
They write the university textbooks.
They've got all these doctors brainwashed into believing that vaccines have saved all these lives when most doctors don't even know the basis of how the immune system develops and how it functions.
And so, you know, I wrote a book, and I don't have one in front of me, but I wrote a book on this topic for parents.
And it's only 90 pages, but it's how to raise children outside the medical model.
It's exactly what I did with my children.
And I have 13 grandchildren who are being raised the same way.
And different than, you know, the world out the world out there, we get excited when we see chickenpox.
We are happy our children get measles.
We're happy that they go through the months and recover and everything.
We have seen this over and over and over again.
And of course, Jim, I've been doing these lectures publicly since 1995.
I've been all over the country and I used to go to Canada regularly.
And I meet parents who don't vaccinate everywhere.
And the consistent thing I hear is: my children are so healthy.
They get over colds quickly.
You know, children still get sick.
They still have issues because we live in a toxic world.
None of us are going to get through life without having issues.
But how you handle those issues and how you address them makes all the difference in the world.
And so I encourage people to understand how God created our immune system.
You know, James, people don't think about it, but he created the whole earth, and this is what I believe.
And then he created us in his image.
Would he create the animals with the ability to be out in the wild all over the world and not have a vaccine or a veterinarian?
And somehow they manage to live and thrive unless human beings get in the way.
We have an incredible immune system that is functioning before we're born.
It is totally ready to function.
And the minute we're born, that immune system starts working instantly.
And so that is the magic of it all.
But modern medicine, and I call the pharmaceutical God, comes in and they start vaccinating these babies.
It used to be day one in the hospital up until just two weeks ago.
Bobby Kennedy Jr. said, We're not doing that anymore with the hepatitis B vaccine.
But nonetheless, for many, many years, we used to start day one in the hospital.
And I've heard of people getting their baby getting three or four different shots the day they're born.
And then every two months on schedule, people go in like robots, take their babies into the pharmaceutical god and say, Here, doctor, do whatever you want without any regard to what they're injecting.
And so this has been my passionate mission for many, many years.
Well, we agree on a lot of issues, Mary.
We disagree on others.
I'm an agnostic and a student of evolution, but either way, I've often suggested you could look at the world where the laws of nature are God's will.
If you identify the gods of laws of nature with God's will, then the world is operating in accordance with God's will, including, by my estimate, the laws of evolution.
And for humanity to evolve and be responsive and resilient, it had to adapt to environmental challenges.
And the natural immune system was indispensable to that process.
So whether you view it as God imposed by virtue of acts of creation, special creation to humanity, or by virtue of the role of evolution here, our immune system is indispensable to our survival as a species.
And I believe, therefore, the COVID shot, which compromises our immune system, induces sterility on a massive scale, apparently brings in microscopic nanobots that are self-assembling.
I mean, I have seen 4,000, 5,000 magnification, Mary, and the contents of the blood after vax are startling.
They are disconcerting.
They are unnerving.
And I think this whole vaccine therefore was part of this massive agenda for depopulation.
In fact, we have this guy, Brulah, who was the head of Pfizer early on, declaring their objective was to reduce the world population by 50%.
We're talking about 8 million people coming down to four.
That's the elimination of 4 billion, billion people by means of this vax, which is really a bio-weapon, Mary.
I think we're in agreement on all these issues.
And it's startling the challenges we confront today.
I actually have a whole study on the COVID up on my website.
By the way, my website is either my name, marytoko.com, m-a-r-y-t-o-c-t-o.com, or you can put childhoodshots.com because I did an incredible deep dive during the whole COVID crap.
And I found doctors that actually took pictures with high-powered microscopes of what's going on inside of those vaccines.
And they have, like you say, they have nanobots inside the vaccine that actually, well, it's in the patent.
They're called operating systems.
You know, again, when they patent these things, they actually called it what it was.
Bill Gates called it an operating system.
And that's exactly what it is.
And it's designed to kill.
And it's designed to make us sick so that we need more of their pharmaceutical drugs.
But I think you and I can agree that as human beings in America, we should have the right to make decisions about whatever we put into our body and into the body of our children.
No government should ever, ever have the right to mandate to us what we do with our bodies.
Right?
We can agree.
It's also part of the reason why I happen to be pro-choice.
I'm one of those who believe abortion should be legal, safe, and rare.
You know, I mean, that's basically my stance.
I've argued the point many times on this and other shows, just as we've done many programs about what's in the blood, including actual images of this 4,000, 5,000-degree magnification.
And it is disconcerting to the max.
I have one colleague who comes on the show fairly often who's actually gone through a blood filtration system.
And his blood after is completely different than his blood before.
Because, of course, he, while he didn't take the vax, he endured the effects of shedding.
Just as no doubt I myself have endured the effects of shedding because my family had to get the vax without telling me, knowing that I would be adamantly opposed.
And they even had boosters.
And I'm thinking, oh, my awful.
But, you know, I mean, there it is.
And I'm sure our non-families are divided over issues of this caliber.
I'm so pleased to have you here, Mary.
And I'm fascinated by your past history, including as a radio host.
And that was on RBN, you said?
Yes.
My program was called Healing Our World.
And what I did was my goal was to expose everything that was harming us, whether it was food chemicals, chemtrails, water, fluoride, vaccinations, modern medicine.
And I had experts on in all the areas you can imagine.
And the goal was to bring healthy solutions to the table.
And so I was able to have just incredible, incredible people on my program.
And I had it for two and a half years.
And it was a Saturday program.
It started out as a two-hour program, but the last year I went down to one hour because I was getting really busy with other things.
But yes, I met a lot of incredible authors, researchers, PhDs, doctors, lay people.
I'll tell you what, James, I'm impressed with a lot of these moms who are dealing with autistic children.
And, you know, they might have vaccinated their first child and saw this child regress in front of their eyes.
They have videos to prove it, that, you know, pre-vaccine versus post-vaccine.
And then they have two or three other children.
And it's like a whole different child because their kids are so healthy.
They don't vaccinate the rest of them.
So I've been around this field for so long.
I've met some amazing, even lay people.
You know, I'm not a doctor.
I don't give medical advice.
I don't have a PhD.
The fact that I've been studying this for 40 years, I think accounts for something.
I do consider myself a vaccine expert when it comes to the toxicity production, how they're made.
If people knew what they were injecting into their body, I believe they would never, ever, ever consider any of the vaccines, especially for the children.
Because, in my professional opinion, they do not cause a proper immune reaction.
I do believe they cause immune suppression.
They force your immune system to respond completely different than how it would if it was exposed to a disease naturally through the mouth, the nose, and mucous membrane.
They sabotage the body.
They set it up for destruction.
I believe it's a download of disease, and I believe that I would hope for a complete moratorium on all vaccinations.
And I know that's wishful thinking, but I do think that, you know, down in Florida, Ron DeSantis just his, I'm sorry, let me just read it.
Joseph Lapado, MD, PhD, the state surgeon general of Florida, just stopped mandating vaccines for all school children, all work people, whatever.
Completely stopped all mandates.
And to me, this is my goal.
If you love a vaccine and you want one, go take one.
Go, go, do whatever you want.
If you want to, you know, if you want to take a medication and a drug that has black box warning on it, go do it.
But me and my children and my grandbabies, we don't want that forced on us.
It should be our right.
But the problem is, the white coats think that us lay people are ignorant.
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Well, I think it's fair to refer to my guest, Mary Toko, as a health guru, Mary, if you would accept that designation.
I want to begin by asking your assessment of RFK Jr.
Is he making a difference and is it for good or bad?
Well, I'm very, very, very excited to have him in there as the Health and Human Service Secretary.
The fact that he just reduced the children's vaccine program down makes me very happy.
And he did that because he looked around the world at different countries and what they do.
And James, I'll tell you, first of all, we do two times more vaccines than any other country in the world.
We have more autism, more diabetes, more ADHD, more learning problems, more psychotic problems, more seizure disorders, more sudden infant death the first year of life, more sudden unexplained death the first year of life than 33 other countries.
And yet, we have more doctors, more nurses, more hospitals, more neonatal units where if a baby's born two months early, we can keep them alive.
What's going on here?
And so I'm very, very excited.
I have known, and I just call him Bobby Kennedy.
I have been at conferences with him for 20 years.
He has been out there in the field for a long, long time.
It first was all just about mercury and vaccines because, as you know, he was an attorney looking at mercury problems in the ocean from factories and businesses and stuff.
But all of a sudden, parents were approaching him and saying, well, gosh, there's mercury in the vaccines.
And he thought, surely there's no way that we're putting like the second most legal chemical in vaccines.
Only he found out he was wrong.
So when I first met him in the 90s, he was all about removing mercury, removing mercury, you know.
And the form is called thimerosol.
And I would be at these conferences and, you know, they open the mic and I would say, we must do a study comparing the outcomes of the vaccinated with the unvaccinated.
Who's doing better?
Because I saw all these kids getting sick around me.
And, you know, you go to church and you're in the nursery and everyone's talking about what medication their baby's on and, you know, how they're always sick all the time.
And I'm out in the public and I just hear about it.
Long story short, that study was done, but it was always ignored and always denied.
And I have to mention that we have a study that just came out called The Inconvenient Truth.
Have you seen the documentary by chance?
No, no, no.
Okay.
It's called An Inconvenient Study.
Convenient Truths, plural, but it has nothing to do with what you're addressing here.
And of course, we had the allegoric thing about climate change.
We called it convenient truth way back.
That was pure.
Okay, I'm sorry.
It's called the Inconvenient Study.
And what it did was there's a gentleman by the name of Del Bigtree, who has a weekly program called The Highware.
And he got together with one of the top doctors at Henry Ford several couple years back.
And this doctor said, I'm going to prove that vaccines are safe because Del Bigtree believes they're not.
And he said, I want to prove that they're safe.
I'm going to do the first ever study comparing the unvaccinated to the vaccinated because we have the biggest database in the whole country and we can do this study and it won't be difficult.
We'll just look at the visits and the outcomes.
Well, he did that.
But he also agreed.
He promised that he would publish the study.
And Del Bigtree said, even if what it shows is not what you want, he said, absolutely.
I'm confident it's going to prove that all vaccines are safe and effective and doing.
Anyway, long story short, the study came out and it was hidden for many, many, many months.
And then Del Bigtree got his hand on it.
And he found out that it was the opposite of what that doctor thought it was going to be.
It was the opposite.
And Del Bigtree, actually, in the movie, and you can look this up at YouTube, wherever, he sits at lunch with this doctor from Henry Ford who was in charge.
And he says, is the study good?
He says, yeah, yeah, it's a good study for sure.
He says, why didn't you publish it?
He goes, man, I'm going to retire.
I don't want to lose my job.
They'll fire me.
He goes, I'll go down as the doctor who dismantled the vaccine program in America.
And I'm not doing that.
And so he refused to publish the study, but they got a hold of it.
It's a published study now.
People can look at it themselves.
And it's now the whole inconvenience study documentary explains it all.
But it just proved what I've known for years.
The more you vaccinate, the sicker the kids get.
Bottom line.
And so I definitely wanted to mention that.
I also wanted to mention that if you knew what was in a vaccine, you would never, you would never eat an apple.
Can you see this apple?
Okay.
This is my visual aid that I take to my lectures.
And this is colored water and all of these injection needles.
But after explaining all of the toxic ingredients that are in vaccines, and the number one biggest one, I believe, is aluminum.
But after explaining it, I asked my audience: if I took an apple and I injected the common vaccine ingredients, phenol, acetone, formaldehyde, MSG, which is an excitotoxin, how about some glyphosate, which they're now finding in vaccines?
How about a little bit of mercury?
How about a ton of aluminum?
Would you eat the apple?
Yes or no, James?
Certainly hope not.
If your wits are about you, if you care about self-preservation, have you suicidal bite in.
And by the way, this little rubber infant here represents the aborted fetal tissue that are found in many, many of the vaccines.
And they've never done a single study on what happens when you inject human tissue into another human, foreign human tissue.
In fact, the measles, one of the measles vaccines, which is part of our combination vaccine, contains 100% male DNA.
100% whole child male DNA.
So what's happening to our children out there who are confused about their gender?
You have little girls that are getting a measles vaccine at 12 months, and all of a sudden they don't feel like little girls anymore.
I mean, I believe, and the ingredients and vaccinations do several very dangerous things.
Number one, they open up the blood-brain barrier.
So whatever gets injected into the body gets into the brain.
They also cause hormone disruption.
I believe that these children out there who are confused about their gender are dealing with hormone disruption.
And if it's not done through the vaccination, it's done through the plastics.
You know, you've probably had experts on here talking about the plastics causing endocrine disruption and hormone disruption.
So our children in this country are really suffering with multiple problems.
And I do believe vaccines is the number one cause of these problems.
But you add the air, the water, the food chemicals, the pollution, all of that to it.
And we have a massive, massive health crisis.
So I'm very happy with what Robert Kennedy is doing.
He's looking at the food chemicals.
Food companies are now starting to reduce them.
One of the most scandalous revelations was how Canada and other countries don't accept our food chemicals in our cereals and in our food.
But boy, they put them in our food, don't they?
They're made here by these companies.
And we get all the colors and all the foods, food chemicals, but other countries don't accept them.
And so I like the fact that he brought that news out.
I did not know that.
I was kind of shocked at that.
And then, of course, he's dealing with the food pyramid is now flipped upside down.
The pyramid, the food pyramid has been wrong for many, many, many years.
They discouraged good fats.
They encouraged artificial fats, seed oils.
They discouraged eating good protein.
They're trying to make those of us who love meat look bad.
Okay.
I have to have meat.
My body requires beef and chicken and fish.
My body requires it, or I don't feel good.
And yet they're trying to make us look bad.
So I'm glad that he's completely flipped the whole food pyramid upside down and is now putting it out there.
He's actually going to be working with the school system.
They're going to try to get the artificial foods out of the schools.
They're going to try to get the soda pop out of the schools.
They're going to try to increase the amount of nutrition that these kids are getting from whole foods.
So I'm very excited about a lot of the things that he's doing.
Yeah, yeah.
Excellent.
I agree.
All of the above, everything you've been saying here.
And he's, what, removed like seven from the schedule is still way too many.
I think it ought to be maybe two or three max, and I'm not even convinced that's in the spans evolve.
So, I've no because the bottom line is: anyone who listen, I don't tell people what to believe or how to think, but they have not done one proper safety study on any of the vaccines that are on the schedule.
Not one.
When a drug is going through the process of being approved by the FDA, you have about 10 years of research, you have millions of dollars that go into that drug, and they have to have the proper safety studies where they have a placebo group of people who get a sugar cube or something inert.
And yet, it takes them years to get a drug approved.
Okay.
And if they don't have those studies, it would never get approved.
Vaccinations do not have to be studied like that.
For some reason, vaccines are the sacred cow of medicine that they can do no wrong, that they can't harm anybody, even though you take combo vaccines.
You and I know that if you're going to take a medication, you don't want to add two or three or four medications on top of it, right?
If you're going into, you know, anybody who's on drugs and medication knows the more medication you add to your schedule, the more complications, the more side effects, the more danger it is.
And there's contraindications, and then everybody has issues with different drugs.
But my point is, is they took all the individual vaccines and combined them into combination cocktails.
There was no safety study done on what happens when you take a measles, mumps, and rubella shot, throw it in a vial, shake it up, and inject it into a baby.
None.
So they're the farthest thing from safe, the farthest thing from studied.
They are not scientific.
They are, I believe, Russian roulette.
And I believe everybody who gets a vaccine is going to have a consequence.
We might not know it now.
It might show up later on as an allergy.
It might show up later on as Alzheimer's or dementia or forgetfulness or kidney failure, bladder failure.
God only knows.
But if you got the vaccines, you got the toxins.
And I encourage people to start promoting health naturally.
Pull away from that whole system, which is designed to drug you.
Parents say, Oh, well, I've got to go to the pediatrician.
Says who?
Show me the law.
There is no law.
There's no one that tells you you have to have a pediatrician unless you're in a hospital having a baby.
And then who's your pediatrician?
Or, you know, our pediatrician has to see your baby, whatever.
You don't have to go by that.
You know, hospitals have regulations, but they're not the law.
So, like I said, we do not, I do not encourage pediatricians unless they're holistic, because the purpose of the pediatrician is to indoctrinate your child into lifelong dependency on office visits, medical intervention, vaccinations, and drugs.
Healthy children do not need to go to a doctor.
Now, I think it's great if you want to find a holistic practitioner or a chiropractor or a naturopath to go in once a year or twice a year and just say, Doc, is my child doing well?
Or if you have minor problems, little problems, whatever, you can take them in.
But to go religiously every two months, there's absolutely, you know, according to Dr. Robert Mendelson, who is a renowned pediatrician, which is where I got a lot of my beliefs from.
He was an author of several books.
One of them was called How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor, which I bought when I was very young and I used it all the time.
And then he also wrote a book.
Let's see, it's about male doctors.
Oh, it's called male practice: how they often will intimidate women into doing things that they might not need.
So, anyway, he was an incredible pediatrician and was very, very well known around the world.
And he's the one who said the pediatrician is dangerous.
You're going to take your baby in, you're going to get what they give.
And all they know how to do is give drugs and medication.
So, that's kind of like how I feel about the pediatrician.
And I'm going to just hold up a picture of my book.
It's called Children's Natural Immune System for Vitality and Health.
And in this, I describe all the different ways that your immune system works for you, how it develops.
It only develops in combat, proper combat, just like the troops on the ground.
They don't develop by sitting back and letting some lazy person take their place.
They get out there and they do the boot camp.
And that's how our immune system develops.
It develops when our children are in boot camp from the ages of zero to five.
They're developing their immune system.
And so there's a wonderful quote that I love: Nothing in the human body gets strengthened by avoidance.
By avoidance.
By avoidance.
If you're getting, you know, flabby from sitting around watching TV, you've got to go challenge it.
If you need a good fast to detox your body, you need to challenge it.
And that's how you challenge it.
If you need to clean up your diet, you have to go out there and you have to give it good food.
You can't avoid the inevitable.
And that is if you don't take care of your body, it's going to break down by default.
It'll automatically break down and you will have disease.
So the only other thing that I would like to say is, I created a six-part educational series on my website that goes all the way back historically to the earlier polio vaccines.
I show charts, graphs, stats, figures, scientific papers from their journals about every of the vaccines, toxic ingredients, how they do cause autism.
It's on my website, childhoodshots.com, and you can download all the parts or one part.
And if you don't want to download it and you want the old DVD series, I send it to you on a USB port that you can plug right into your computer.
So I have done all the research for all the parents out there because, first of all, it takes time to read.
And for whatever reason, this is what I was called to do 40 years ago.
And I loved it.
And so, parents, please don't allow any doctor to intimidate you into doing anything that you are 100% concerned or knowledgeable about.
I encourage you to make informed medical decisions.
And don't even trust me.
You know, I show the evidence and the proof, which, by the way, Jim, they are censoring it off the internet.
They're making it hard for parents to find the research.
Give me the name of your website, the link, and I'll take us there and we can go through it during our next segment.
Okay.
Where do I write it?
No, you just tell me I'm writing it.
You tell me.
Oh, childhoodshots.com.
Childhoodshots.com.
Yep.
You can pull up my whole website.
I didn't get the last word.
Childhood stats.
Shots like S-H-O-T-S, like vaccine shots.
Childhood shots.
Or Mary Toko, marytoko.com.
Childhood shots.
Yeah.
Let me see if I can get us there.
That's okay.
Yep.
Childhood shots.
MaryToko.com.
MaryToco.com.
Okay.
There you go.
Is it dot marytoko.com or there's no doubt?
Just marytoko.com.
And that's yeah, just Mary Toko, even.
All right.
Or just childhood shot with either one.
MaryToko.com.
T-O-C-C-O.
Yeah.
Let me see if I can try again.
M-A-R-Y-T-O-C-C-O.
T-O-C-C-O, right?
T-O-C-C.
Yeah.
Yep.
T-O-C-C-O.
Do you have an I in there?
Shots.com.
C-O-M.
And then get rid of my name.
Right.
There you go.
There we go.
Well.
Okay.
So up at the top, you'll see store or shop at the top.
That's where all my DVDs and my books are located along the top blue ribbon.
You'll see the word shop about Mary Toko on here.
It tells you my background.
I was, by the way, I was America's Outstanding Mother from 2013 to 2014.
My children nominated me and I won the national title, which was very exciting.
Yeah.
And, you know, unfortunately, they're not even looking at it anymore.
People are not, you know, it used to be a pageant.
It was a real pageant.
And I think the year or two after I got the title, they discontinued it because women were complaining that you had to have children to be America's outstanding mom.
And so they took it.
They stopped doing it.
Oh my gosh.
Crazy world, right?
But you can see there's my book.
And if you scroll down, you'll see my DVDs.
I have articles.
I have tons of free articles for parents to look at.
Under the articles, I show how acetaminophen and Tylenol is the number one cause of liver failure.
Robert Kennedy brought up Tylenol and Donald Trump did a, well, I don't think he did it right, but he did whatever he did, exposing the dangers of Tylenol.
And I agree, do not do Tylenol.
Do not do Tylenol.
This troubles me because my wife is taking an extra strength title and all of her arthritis.
Tell me, tell me about it.
It's damaging, damaging to the liver.
Absolutely.
It's the number one reason go to liver failure.
They walk into emergency rooms and liver failure.
And the article is a, it's based on a study.
And that study basically looked at all the countries around the world.
Do you know acetaminophen is banned in like 10 major countries, but we can put it in our drugs here, just like our food chemicals.
You know, it's okay to give them to the Americans.
But boy, oh boy, no, Tylenol.
I would find some other form of, in fact, if she has arthritis, she's probably got a lot of inflammation.
She probably needs to look at her diet, look at what she's eating, and do some food allergy testing to find out how she's eating because that's probably what's causing the inflammation in her body.
And that's basically Mary Toko's free natural health encouragement there because inflammation in the body is usually related to what we're eating or what we're injecting or, you know, what we're taking pill form.
So she has options, James.
She just has to learn how to look outside the box and do things that are not as traditional because traditional medicine, well, their whole purpose is to keep us addicted to drugs and keep us coming to the doctor.
Yes, yes, yes.
No, I think that's fundamentally right.
Where do you want to go, Mary?
Where do you want to go?
Well, you can just go under articles right in the middle of the blue bar at the top.
You went too fast.
Oh, under articles?
Health articles.
Yeah, look under, over to the right, to the right, to the right, right there.
Go under health, the blue one in the middle, health out.
All of those are free articles that I have written and authored over the years, the dangers of drugs, the DPT vaccine, side effects, influenza vaccine, facts that they deny.
Influenza vaccines don't work.
Flu shots don't work.
They make people sicker.
In fact, over the course of many, many years, I find people saying, I took the flu shot.
I've never been so ill in my life.
It has killed people.
I mean, it's just unbelievable what they're doing.
I think they're putting the mRNA in all the shots now, Mary.
Yes, they are.
It's everywhere.
So any vaccine you get, you're running the risk at getting the mRNA.
Absolutely.
And one of the deep studies, I just did a deep dive, and we can talk about this.
Do we have another hour after this, Jim?
Yeah, we have another half hour.
Okay.
I will talk about the deep dive that I just did into sudden infant death syndrome and what our country is doing to deny that vaccines are the number one cause of sudden infant death.
And we can cover that in detail.
Surprise me in the least, Mary.
I know.
Again, it goes back to that reduced population agenda, right?
Yeah.
They want to reduce pop, they've got to reduce the population.
And so the best way to do it is by drugging people, keep the money flowing, make them really sick, and eventually they die.
So I'll tell you what, we have options, folks.
I encourage you to look up functional medical doctors.
So I have five grown children.
Two of my daughters are chiropractors.
One of them went on and became a family nurse practitioner.
And you can get help by going to these alternative doctors because they understand, number one, the medical field is failing us.
Pediatricians have failed us.
As far as I'm concerned, pediatricians should hide in shame of what they've done to the children in this country, injecting them with bioengineered, man-made viruses from animals and all kinds of food products, which I'll tell you how, I'll tell you how we talk about food allergies in this country.
This is how kids get food allergies.
Okay.
But they should be ashamed that they're injecting this bioengineered, man-made viruses you would never find in history.
You wouldn't find them in the natural world.
Any of the stuff that you find in these jabs, you won't find in the natural world because they're combos.
They literally, they use vectors to put animal and human viruses together to make these vaccines.
Okay.
And if a doctor has been doing this all of his years, I know that it's probably very difficult to face it, but they need to wake up.
They need to wake up because they do not know what's in a vaccine.
They are given about one or two pages in their medical studies.
I just met with a medical doctor yesterday in South Carolina who is starting a Physicians for Medical Freedom group.
And we were having a deep discussion.
He said, I guarantee you, and he is an emergency room doctor in practice for 20 years.
I guarantee you, we don't learn anything about vaccines in med school.
We learn the schedule and we learn how to give them.
And that's it.
They learn the schedule and how to give them a bad thing and how to build their baby.
Yeah.
Yes.
Mary, we'll be right back this spring.
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I'm so glad to have you here today.
Thank you so much, James.
I'm honored to be on your program.
So how this started out was I go to a lot of meetings of people who are running for different offices.
I'm trying to get very active in my community because I believe we have to be active in our precinct, in our state, in our city, or we're not going to make changes.
So I go to here, everybody who's running for office.
Well, a year ago, a year and a half ago, we were getting a new coroner, and the new coroner did a wonderful speech.
And afterwards, I went up to him and I said to him, I said, by the way, do you know that there's a relationship between SIDS death and vaccinations?
And he looked at me like, what do you mean?
And this guy had been a coroner for like 15 years.
And I said, oh, you don't know about how vaccines can cause sudden infant death syndrome.
And he said, I have never really heard that.
And I was surprised.
So I got his card.
I promised him I would send him a detailed report because I've had tons of research over the years.
So I spent literally about seven or eight months putting my research together.
And then I sent him in the mail, registered mail, a packet.
It's like 20 pages.
And the name of it is, I've got it down here.
I've got it open.
It's called Sudden Death Syndrome, Vaccine Research and References prepared for the county coroner and other authorities, the vaccine connection, medical citations, and possible causation, research gathered by Mary Toko.
And so I sent him this and it outlined why I believe vaccines was the number one reason babies are dying.
And he got it.
And he did win the, he was elected.
And so I gave him like four months to get acclimated.
And then I called his office.
And I said, by chance, do you know if Mr. Hartwell got the report I sent in?
And she said, I'll check.
Well, he called me the next morning and he said, I got your report and it was eye-opening.
And I want to set you up with the top of MUSC.
I'm in South Carolina.
Okay.
The top of MUSC, the doctor who's in charge of it.
And he said, can you be ready by Monday?
And this was like Friday night.
I'm like, absolutely.
So I put a PowerPoint together because I didn't want to just talk.
I wanted her to see the facts.
And we met with Dr. Susan Presnel, prominent fluorensic pathologist and professor at Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston, specializing in autonomic clinical pathology, known for her expertise in autopsies and medical education, including roles in MUSC's pathology department and serving as director of medical and fluorensic autopsies.
She performs autopsies and is affiliated with MUSC Health and Roper College, Roper Hospital, contributing to pathology education.
Anyway, long story short, I was so excited, but I was also like, oh my gosh, she's not going to believe what I'm going to talk to her about.
So I went in.
We had an incredible meeting.
And in the PowerPoint presentation, I started out with the fact that our president, Ronald Reagan, back in 1986, literally protected all vaccine manufacturers from all liability.
And she didn't know that.
She was shocked.
And I told her why.
They were getting sued because of the DTP vaccine back then.
They were getting sued so bad for injury and death that they were going to go out of business.
And so they threatened our government and said, look, you got to protect us.
If you want us to be on top of warfare, bioengineered warfare, you need to keep us in business.
But we can't keep going at this rate.
We're getting sued.
So, Ronald Reagan, under duress, I believe, I believe he signed that bill.
In fact, I know he didn't want to, but he signed that bill.
But his concern was: well, what about future vaccines?
And what are we going to do about the dangerous vaccines?
So, in the bill, there was a law that Health and Human Services was supposed to provide every other year a study of all new vaccines that hit the marketplace.
And they were to look at the safety of them and they were to do detailed, you know, studies across the country and present a report to the government about the safety of all these vaccines.
And just so you know, there was a lawsuit about five or six years ago with Del Bigtree and his attorney, Aaron Siri.
They sued the FDA and HHS.
They wanted to see all of the safety studies that they had done for a total of 38 years.
And guess what?
They hadn't done a single one.
Exactly.
So you're already aware of this.
And I just hope your listening audience is aware of this.
They don't follow the law.
But anyway.
Because they knew they'd be putting themselves out of business.
Absolutely.
So anyway, Dr. Presnel knew none of this.
She had no idea.
Well, then I went on, and I'm not going to get into all the detail because I gave her an hour and a half presentation.
After explaining that and showing that no studies have been put out, I then did the vaccine schedule, which shows that in 1962, we got five vaccines.
I was born in the 60s.
I got five vaccines at the most.
One of them was that little sugar cube, the polio one, which by the way, was contaminated with 26 retroviruses foreign to human beings that came from the African green monkeys that they developed the vaccine on, which is all in my DVD series.
But anyway, in 1983, we were up to 24 vaccines, and that's when all the lawsuits were happening.
So instead of stopping and halting and saying, let's look at everything, let's analyze this, they protected the pharmaceutical companies.
So by 1917, we had 72.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
I'm sorry, 2017, we had 72 vaccines.
And then by 2025, it went up to 73, including the COVID shot.
So, and then also one thing they did was they weren't vaccinating children at the age of two years, they were vaccinating them right from the hospital forward, which had never been done.
In fact, when I was a kid, they didn't even talk about vaccines until you were two or three or four or getting ready to go to school.
But all of a sudden, they're vaccinating them earlier.
So now I'm going to open up my report here.
So I explained all of that to her.
And then I went on to talk about the role of aluminum.
I explained to her that because of congressional hearings, they had to reduce the thimerosol, the mercury, public pressure.
They had to reduce it and they had to add something in its place because mercury was an adjuvant.
All vaccinations have adjuvants.
Adjuvants are designed to go in and really stimulate the immune system.
They really tick it off.
They make it mad and they draw attention to what's being injected.
And they were using thimerosol, mercury, as a form of antiseptic, as a preservative, and also as an adjuvant.
So when they were ordered to reduce it down, they added aluminum.
The aluminum levels are off the charts.
I explained all of the aluminum levels to her, told her all about the level of vaccines, how many children get, which month, and she was shocked.
In fact, in the middle of me explaining the aluminum, excuse me, she said, oh my, I guess I should pull my children's vaccine schedule and see what they got.
Okay, she had no idea.
When I told her that the aluminum levels were off the charts, she just couldn't believe it.
Then I went on and I described to her the normal autopsy on infants who die with SIDS.
And when I described it to her in detail, she said, Yes, yes, that's what we do.
That's what we do.
I then went down and I described to her what was lacking.
So, what I did, you know, I'm not a huge fan of AI, but I'm finding AI is very, very beneficial.
What I did is I had gone and I had asked AI what kind of autopsy was needed in order to do proper autopsies to find aluminum toxicity leading to mitochondria malfunction.
Okay.
And I actually described it to her, and she admitted that they don't do this.
And see, the problem with aluminum, it affects your mitochondria function.
And those are the energy slaves of the cell.
We've got to have healthy mitochondria.
And I heard Robert Kennedy Jr. talking about looking into the mitochondria damage in children with autism.
And when I heard that, it made me think, what's going on?
So I did a deep dive and I got to find that the aluminum that is in the vaccines actually affects the mitochondria damage, which ends up causing them to go into respiratory failure and other problems.
Okay.
So when I explained all of that to her, again, she was really shocked.
And I told her what she needed to do.
Exactly.
I brought up cases.
I brought up children's health defense where they have ongoing cases.
I showed her twins went in for their vaccines and in one week both babies were dead.
I brought up case studies.
I showed her charts and graphs and everything like that.
And then we talked about it.
And in the end, I basically said, the problem is, is you're not doing the proper autopsies.
And until you start doing the proper autopsies, we're never going to know.
And so I basically told her what they needed.
I showed her what was needed as far as what studies needed to be done in their autopsies.
And that was the end of our discussion.
She assured me that she would hear from me.
I haven't heard from her.
And that was almost a year ago.
So anyway, I'm on a mission to get this report out to anybody who will get it to their coroner.
I will email it for free to anybody who will get it to their coroner because the coroners have to realize that they don't have the tools necessary to determine how these children are dying.
They call it respiratory failure.
They call it unexplained death.
They have all kinds of things they call it.
But when you look at it, 3,600 infants die the first year of life in this country.
Mary Mary, you're right on top of this.
Now, what did she do?
She was in a position to make a difference.
What did she do?
I let her have like a couple months to chew on it.
And I sent her a nice letter in the mail basically saying, I want your professional opinion about what we've discussed and the information I provided.
I would like to see MUSC lead the way.
You know, let's do this right.
There are parents who lose babies needlessly.
I told her in my thing, I want to see mandated vaccines stop.
If in fact they are the cause or the number one cause, we need to stop mandating them.
But you're in a position of authority.
And I would like to see you take this and do something with it.
And I would like to know how you feel and in your opinion.
And I said, by the way, if I don't hear back from you, I want to let you know that I'm going to be doing podcasts, radio shows, and live lectures.
And I'm exposing this and I'm giving your name.
Mary, she didn't do anything with it?
Not that I know of.
She never responded to me.
So then I turned around and I sent it to.
It's terrible.
And so basically, I then turned around.
I actually offered, I said, look, I think MUSC can lead the way by improving the infant autopsy procedures, ensuring that the proper tissue studies are being done to rule out vaccine toxicity or exposure.
Is the university willing to take a deeper look?
Are you willing to engage in additional communication?
Or do you choose to be silent?
I said, I would like to get together with a roundtable discussion with other PhDs, other people, some coroners, and see if we can't get to the bottom of this.
I haven't heard a word from her.
So I turned around and I sent it to about five or six more PhD doctors out of the university hospital.
And I'm telling you what, they don't want to be the ones, just like that doctor with the inconvenience study at Henry Ford Hospital, they don't want to be the ones to expose it.
I'd be willing to bet, I'm just guessing now, this is my theory, when she brought it up to other doctors, other people at the university, they probably said, don't you dare, don't you dare, because how much pharmaceutical funding do they get?
Okay, so this is a big conspiracy, but it's not a theory.
It's a fact.
Our children are dying needlessly in this country.
What you're demonstrating is that you don't have to be a PhD or a scientist to conduct a scientific study.
You are adhering to the requirements of science.
You had a control group.
You had the variable.
You are being systematic, thorough, comprehensive.
You have to look at all the data on both sides.
You are doing that.
I command you.
I'm a philosopher of science.
I'm a student of what it takes to qualify as scientific knowledge.
And you have made a major contribution to scientific knowledge regarding vaccines and their consequences.
And I'm embarrassed.
I'm shocked.
I'm ashamed that the figures with whom you have shared your result haven't run with it all the way to the goalpost to save human lives because they're violating the basic Hippocratic oath: first, do no harm.
They're allowing harm to be done and they know it.
They are knowledgeable.
You've informed them.
They have a responsibility, moral and professional, that they have abdicated.
This is very, very serious, Mary.
Very serious.
I know, James.
And so, first of all, pray for me.
You know, I'm just Mary.
I live alone.
I'm single.
But I think God is my protector.
Number two, we have a very, very big problem with hypersensitive children in this country that are vulnerable to injury and damage.
Very vulnerable.
One thing I want to mention: when we eat toxins, and you know this, but your listening audience needs to understand why our children are so hypersensitive.
When we eat food products, they belong in our gut system and we process them and our body eliminates them.
When you inject vaccines that contain food products like peanut oil, like cow cow serum, cow protein, like wheat yeast products from wheat, when you inject products like that into the human body, your body attacks it.
They don't belong there.
And so people don't understand that all these allergies that children are having is because we're injecting food products into the human body.
The body sees it and it attacks it.
They're like, what the heck is going on in my arm or my thigh?
And you know, when I had Dr. Presno, and this was the night before, and I know, Jim, you might not believe in God, but I do.
The night before I'm ready, getting ready to walk into this, what I don't even know what to expect.
I'm going to a medical university and I'm just like praying, God direct me.
At two o'clock in the morning, I'm looking over my PowerPoint.
He gives me an idea.
He says, ask the doctor if you get bit with a rattlesnake, a venomous rattlesnake, in the leg or in the thigh or the hand, how long does it take that venom to circulate around your body and start causing organ failure?
And she went, I don't know, but I imagine within hours.
And I said, Do you know that the vaccines have never been studied systemically?
They will inject a baby with 13 different vaccines and combos in one two-minute period, and they have never looked at what happens.
You see, we have something called the fluid highway system in our body.
By the way, I discovered that they discovered the new organ, the anercy organ, the fluid highway system in 2018.
They described the new organ in the body called the fluid highway system.
They didn't know it was there.
They didn't understand it.
Can you believe that?
And I said, okay, so, and I explained all that to her.
I showed her the research that we have a fluid highway system that connects every single cell, tissue, organ, ligament, tendon, brain to this fluid highway system.
So, whatever you inject gets picked up there, it doesn't get in the blood system.
Eventually, it might get absorbed, but it goes into the fluid highway system and gets into the brain.
And I said, They've never studied vaccinations given to infants when we know that those products, bioengineered, man-weigh, man-made viruses that are not found in nature, along with all the adjuvants and all of the there's thousands of chemicals that go into vaccines that gets picked up into that child's body, it circulates, and eventually ends up in the brain.
And it causes autoimmune issues, it causes nervous system issues, it causes brain malfunction, it causes severe allergies.
And some of the adjuvants that we inject in these babies-one of them is peanut adjuvant 065, it comes from peanut oil.
And we wonder why these children have allergies to peanuts.
They've been injected with it, their body fights it.
It says this is foreign, it doesn't belong here.
And you cause an ongoing immune reaction whenever it gets exposed.
So, I might not be a PhD medical doctor, whatever, whatever, but I know what I'm talking about, and I'm confident about what I'm talking about.
And I will go up against any medical doctor anytime, anywhere about what I know about.
And that's why I like to stick to what I know about James, because I want to see coroner conferences.
I want coroners in a big, huge auditorium where they learn how to do this new tissue study.
Have you reached out to RFK Jr.?
I think he would appreciate your studies.
I have from his website.
Actually, actually, I have mentioned it.
Um, I don't know.
I need other people to help me get to him.
He needs to have this information, Mary.
And I do believe I've written that.
You need to send it to him a half a dozen different ways, including certified mail by email, by tip lines, by whatever.
You need to send this a half a dozen ways in the hope at least one will get through it.
You know what?
That's what I believe it or not.
When Donald Trump was just Donald Trump years ago, when Barron was three years old, I had a vaccine DVD called Our Vaccine Safe.
I was the only one that had one out there.
It was a two DVD part.
It was a live lecture.
I made sure Donald Trump got my lecture, my DVD series, because I heard him and Melania talking somewhere that they saw their best friend's little boy regress into vaccine, autism after vaccines.
I heard him say that.
I didn't know he was going to be president, but I mailed him five copies, one a week for five weeks to Trump Towers.
I'm like, I'm going to make sure they get this.
And I send it out all over the place, you know.
By the way, look, I'm just Mary.
I am just a person on a mission, and I'm not going to stop.
And I've been doing this for 40 years.
Mary, Mary, send it all to Milania, too.
I think you might have more luck getting through to Milania.
I think this is a good idea.
I think what you got here is very, very important to the future of the nation and its health.
I'd even call this a national security issue.
Well, I have to know how to get a hold of these people.
It's not easy.
You can't just go online and, you know, you can only imagine how protected these people are.
I need help.
Somebody can help me.
Help me get this out.
I'm on a mission to get it out.
And by the way, all people, if you want this report, people, you can email me for free, mary at marytoko.com.
And I will send you your own copy.
You can copy it.
You can't change it.
You can't alter it, but you can copy it and you can send it.
Mary at marytalko.com.
Mary at marytoko.com.
MaryToko, T-O-C-C-O.com.
Yes.
And I'm going to go to the campus.
Listen out there in the audience right here, Revolution Radio audience.
This is very, very important.
I encourage you to do this.
Write to Mary at MaryToko.com.
Get a copy of this report and get it.
Get it to the highest health authorities in your town, in your state.
And then the nation.
I think if a sufficient number of these are sent in, it may become impossible to ignore.
I'm encouraging everyone to do this.
Please, please, please.
Mary at MaryToko.com.
And I'll come and speak.
I'll do lectures.
I'm on a mission.
I want to do conferences.
I love meeting people.
I like being in auditoriums with people where I can connect and ask them questions.
And they can, I mean, I'm all about doing what I can to make America healthy again.
And it starts in our home.
It starts in our own kitchen, in our own backyard.
And so I have a lecture on how to detox your home, how to clean up your environment, how to raise children nature's way.
Because we have to start in our own life, in our own homes, to make America healthy again.
And so I really, really, I'm on a mission to reach people any way that I can.
I do appreciate it.
And I do have a donation button on my website.
You know, I, like I said, I'm one person.
I'm a senior citizen.
I'm not Social Security.
I do everything I can to make a living, but I do have a donation button there.
If somebody feels led to donate and help me, I guarantee you it's going to go right into all this research.
I would love to just copy it off.
Where's the button, Mary?
I think it's down on the bottom right corner.
Does that say donate down there?
Yeah, there it is.
Yeah.
So what I want to do is I'll make hundreds of copies of this report and I'll get it out there.
I'll mail it to the different corners around the state, around the country.
You can do it too.
And I'll get it in their hands.
And then I'll follow up with phone calls.
I mean, I'm on a mission to get this information out.
And I need help.
There's no way I can do it myself.
I'm just one person.
And everybody you know, you all know people that I don't know.
So.
Mary at MaryTalko.com.
You're doing yeoman's work here, really pathbreaking.
You're doing work.
The scientific community is not.
They're avoiding the issue because of the risk to their income, sad to say.
They're ignoring their greater moral obligation to the public and to the community at large.
This is truly disgraceful.
And I do think there's an opportunity here with RFK Jr. reevaluating the vaccine schedule.
One and all, everyone out there in Revolution Radio Land, Mary needs help.
Get her study.
Marriette at marytalco.com.
Get a copy of the study.
Do your best to get it to somebody at HHS.
Get it to somebody.
You might start low.
It doesn't have to be.
Yes.
Flood with every different possible access route and include Melania.
Frankly, I believe Baron himself was damaged by the vaccine Baron has autism, autism, but very high phone.
And yes, I think they care.
They care from personal experience, Mary.
I think there's an opportunity here.
And the timing is extremely good because this is so controversial about revising the vaccine schedule.
Yours.
Yes.
And I will go on any radio show or podcast.
Please, people, you know, James, I'm so grateful.
But if you know other people, just have them email me or call me.
I put my phone numbers all over my website.
People can call me all the time.
I answer my phone.
I've been doing this for like 35 years.
My name and number are out there.
I can't hide.
I can't handle.
I can't hide, James.
I just need protection.
I believe God protected me through all this.
Can you imagine me one of only two speakers in the whole country from 1995 up until the year 2000 and I don't know, maybe 19, 18, 17?
I was like one of the only people out there running around the country educating people on the dangers of vaccines.
People were afraid.
They were afraid because you know what?
I've known doctors who've disappeared after talking about this subject.
Ironically, they disappeared.
So I believe God has protected me.
Unfortunately, you're thinking it's out there and it ain't going to disappear.
And I encourage everyone to get a copy.
Mary at MaryTalco, T-O-C-C-O.com.
Mary T-O-C-C-O.com.
Get a copy.
Do something with it.
Do something with it.
Mary, I can't thank you enough for coming on the show today.
You're welcome.
Is this going to get on RBN?
No, this is on Revolution Radio.
Okay.
But okay, so you call me about RBN.
We'll talk about that too.
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