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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on Authentic News right here on RBN Live, the 17th day of September, 2025.
This is Jim Fetzer.
Charlie Kirk case abounds.
We had Max Blumenthal on with Alex Jones.
He had an extremely interesting report to make.
I want to share with you.
It runs just nine minutes, but it's fascinating.
Time I'm revealing this other than we just updated our article at the Gray Zone.
Her name is Natasha Hausdorff, and we were told this by an attendee of the meeting, and I haven't been able to reach out to her.
So, you know, if this turns out to be false, we'll correct it.
But I trust the source because Natasha Hausdorff, Natasha Hausdorff, let's pull that up.
Go ahead.
H-A-U-S-S-D-O-R-F.
And she was taking what Bill, what Bill Ackman was doing.
Apparently, he was trying to maintain his composure, but she was screaming at him.
And what I heard from people in the room is that the whole meeting was a disaster.
It was convened mainly to talk about the danger of Zorhan Mamdani as New York mayor.
And then after the meeting, or towards the end of this, it was kind of like an influencer summit, and they were taken to fancy restaurants in the Hamptons.
I backed that up with photos that they stupidly posted on social media.
Everyone at the meeting was offered a free trip to Israel, and most of them took it.
Newsmax fronted for the trip.
Newsmax has become a vehicle for Israeli influence.
Its CEO, Chris Ruddy, just met with Netanyahu in Israel.
And one of the influencers there, Xavier De Rousseau from Prager U, whose CEO is a veteran of Israel's cyber spying division, Unit 8200, went to one of these starvation sites, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation starvation sites, paid for by the Israeli government, and delivered a video mocking the starvation in Gaza and claiming that Hamas leaders were eating all the ramen and therefore they were on Ozempic.
This is what they're being paid to do.
And then there's just a bigger issue here.
I thought this movement was about America first that Charlie Kirk was heading.
Absolutely.
Just interrupt.
This is Natasha right here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's her.
And what I did was I showed the source the picture and said, was this her?
And they immediately said yes.
Max goes on to explain they were yelling and screaming at Charlie because he wasn't being sufficiently supportive of Israel, that he'd allowed speakers at a recent event for Turning Point, such as Tucker Carlson.
who were actually raising questions about the genocide, where Max himself, Charlie himself had been visited Israel to the wall, was raising questions about whether the official narrative was credible or not, pointing out that it's not anti-Semitic or un-American to raise these questions.
They were furious with Charlie, no doubt.
They had a motive.
And I believe Charlie himself was convinced he'd been targeted for assassination.
And that's why he engaged in the sham shooting in order to protect himself, his wife, his family.
Meanwhile, I just mentioned here what I've discussed before.
Charlie Kirk shooting 100% fake from 15 September 2025.
Charlie Kirk, the character is dead, but the actor is very much alive.
Total confirmation for what I and Danny Sears and Monique Lukens had determined during our earlier program.
We got a backstage camera, just a woman who happened to be there caught, you know, this bulge in his back as though he were a hunchback.
But it's actually the blood packet.
Then we have here, and this is new.
Not one drop of blood seen on or from the body of Kirk to the SUV.
I mean, it's a relatively work around a short clip, but there's just very disturbing.
James Copper News Report today.
Ladies and gentlemen, I've had about enough of everything that's going on with Charlie Kirk and his assassination or apparent assassination.
I've just got one more story to do, and I'll walk away.
I want to say that when they rushed him to the SUV, I'm going to show you three or four different angles.
Not one speck of blood hit the ground or hit anyone's shoe or clothing.
And his, well, as you can see, his left foot here that should be covered in blood based on what we saw.
White tennis shoe.
It doesn't look like it's covered in blood to me.
To me.
Now let's take a look at them running him in.
There should be blood going everywhere.
Everywhere.
I've seen people with small cuts and us rushing him to the hospital, blood going everywhere.
Now I have several angles of them rushing him to the SUV.
And y'all are not going to see a single drop of blood hit the concrete.
This is his tent right here.
We haven't gone very far.
Let's put this in play and see what happens here.
Look now.
Not a drop, not one drop back here.
Not one drop in here.
Not one drop on any of their feet.
No blood.
Now, again, I have several angles, but he's got it right.
He's got it right.
No blood because it wasn't a real shooting.
It was a staged event.
And of course, it wasn't treated on the scene as a real shooting.
I mean, if Charlie had actually been shot, you would presume, given he was already dead, this kind of bleed out leads to death in about 20 seconds.
They should have left the body there.
They should have secured the crime scene.
Everyone should have backed off instead.
They know I rushed the body to the SUV, but they take down, they take down the tent.
They don't destroy the crime scene, the evidence.
Meanwhile, Candace is reporting their line of.
Bibi Netanyahu in that phone call, what took place was a couple of weeks ago before Charlie lost his life.
Charlie was in the Hamptons and he had more than one event, but he had essentially what was staged, an intervention, was staged by Bill Ackman because Charlie's thoughts, Charlie's rational thoughts about Israel were a no-no.
This is not the route that you should be going on.
And Charlie was surrounded by his friends, his quote-unquote friends.
Bill Ackman was very upset and threats were made.
That is what I am told.
And I will tell you that I am very happy for Bill Ackman to dispute this narrative.
In fact, he was asked to dispute this narrative.
Max Blumenthal went out to him today, and Bill Ackman came back and said, I have receipts I can show you.
And he did not provide the receipts.
This is not how it went down.
I know it went down this way.
I'm waiting for one of them to go on record and to say that it didn't go down this way.
It was at this time that Bibi Netanyahu was called and Charlie was invited to Israel.
This was an under duress situation, I would say, because I've been in these situations before.
When I started asking very sensible questions about Israel, as someone who had dedicated her political life to supporting Israel many times alongside Charlie Kirk, I was met with the very same pressure.
And just like Charlie was being invited to Israel, I was invited somewhere else.
And when this arrived to me, it felt like a threat.
You know, I got to tell you that it felt like a threat, like not like, hey, come here and we can educate you because you're my friend, more like this is your last chance.
That's how it felt to me.
I can't speak to how it felt to Charlie.
And I know that Charlie was offered a ton of money in this moment, a ton of money.
Bibi would fund it, you know, spend tons of money.
And turning point, I guess, if it needs to go to a higher lever, would have gone to an even higher level than it already was at.
And I know for a fact that Charlie denied that funding, that Charlie denied, and what Bibi didn't include there, he declined to go to Israel for I would, I would describe this as like, you know, re-education camp.
You know, we've seen it.
You made an uh-oh, but we can help you.
You know, we just need you to come out to Auschwitz and take a picture.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
You know, you can go to Israel and you get good hands treatment.
I believe while you're asleep, you're being subjected to brainwaves that are affecting your thought processes.
I have a friend who was a very rational, balanced person before he went to Israel.
When he came back, it was an Israeli Zionist zealot.
Meanwhile, we had a lot more.
That's, of course, all about no candidates, but here's Nick Fueni is talking about trying to bribe him.
150 mil, get this.
An infusion of $150 million by Israel.
Okay?
That would double Israel's budget, or excuse me, Turning Point USA's budget.
Turning Point USA has an annual budget of $140 million.
Netanyahu offered Turning Point $150 million for one purpose and one purpose only, to shill for Israel harder.
Turning Point USA is already pro-Israel.
They're not anti-Israel.
They've never been anti-Israel.
Charlie Kirk has in the past criticized B.B. Netanyahu.
He has criticized secular left-wing Jewry in America.
He has criticized a war with Iran, the famine in Gaza.
He has never opposed Israel in itself.
He has never explicitly opposed Israel.
Israel offered him $150 million to be more pro-Israel than they already were, to be harder in their support for Israel, and in particular, to support regime change in Iran and to support their ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.
And Charlie Kirk refused the money.
And I have independently confirmed that, by the way, I've heard that from four people.
Four people that I trust that are in the know.
So this is coming from Candice Owens, a friend of Charlie Kirk.
This is coming from Max Blumenthal, who purports to have a source.
And I have heard from a handful of people independently of those sources that this offer was real and that Kirk turned down the money.
After Charlie Kirk turned down the money, Netanyahu asked if he would come visit Jerusalem and give him the re-education tour.
The Holocaust Museum, the burned babies, the beheaded babies, the one that Elon Musk took, the one that our Speaker of the House took.
Anyone that's ever criticized Israel has been subjected to, he refused that as well.
They offered to bribe him.
They tried to re-educate him.
He refused both offers.
Yeah, Nick's got it right.
He refused both offers.
He was a big target.
He knew he was going to be on the hit list.
He figured out a way to cope with it.
Joaquina Gobien, my dear colleague, there's a very nice piece about it on my blog, Joachina Gobi.
Again, for Charlie Kirk's fake death to avoid death by Israel's hellfire.
I think he even solicited the assistance of Donald Trump, who had been subject to apparent assassination attempt, but where Butler in particular was clearly a staged event.
Thus, I call what happened here in Utah Butler 2.0.
And by the way, trying to apologize for Israel's genocide is getting more and more difficult.
It is clear.
UN Commission finding confirm Israel committing genocide in Gaza.
A commission of independent experts at the UN Tuesday said Western countries must stop providing military aid to Israel as it released an extensive report confirming the Israeli government is carrying out genocide in Gaza, joining international and Israeli human rights groups and numerous genocide experts that have come to the same conclusion in recent months.
Commission concludes on reasonable grounds, the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit the following actus of genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, said the UN Commission of Inquiry, charging citing four of the five genocidal acts defined under the 1948 Genocide Convention.
Israel's doing it.
It's blatant.
We're seeing it virtually daily.
It's never been on television before that we actually witness a genocide.
Here's another fascinating aspect and another reason why I think this Charlie Kirk thing is so valuable.
Practically the whole world is looking at Israel and realizing it's a monstrosity here in State of the Nation.
An open letter to the Zionist state of Israel.
You've always gotten away with bloody murder Israel until now.
I like it.
The volumes of proof, both hard evidence and circumstantial, now available on the internet, including within numerous information databases, government corporations, NGO, point directly to the state of Israel as being the prime mover behind the most deadly and destructive terrorist attacks and VIP assassinations in U.S. history.
Only the state of Israel had the motive and hood spot, power and influence, technology and resources to carry out these most traumatizing and terrorizing false flag operations since a purposefully shocking assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
Here are some truncated lists of major false flag attacks on the U.S. and assassination of some of its most respected leaders and accomplished celebrities, all of which are clearly your handiwork.
What follows is a short list of some of the most traumatizing assassinations you have perpetrated.
John F. Kennedy, Lee Oswald Patsy, Martin Luther King, James O. Ray Matsy, Robert F. Kennedy, Saran Saran Patsy, Malcolm X, three initially set up as Patsy, Mohamed Hawley, stricken with a bioweapon, have Parkinson's and be unable to speak.
Michael Jackson, Dr. Conrad Murray Patsy, Mrs. Thomas Massey, cause of death still not confirmed, but I have no doubt they're right.
Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson set up as a Patsy.
And then there's a long list of events, The vast majority of which were staged or otherwise carried out to affect American political opinion, including the Tower Texas shooting, the Luby shooting of 91, the Columbine of 99, Virginia Tech 2000, South Ford Hood 2009, Aurora Shooter 12, Sandy Hook Elementary 12, Charleston Church 15,
San Bernardino 15, Paul's 20, 16, Las Vegas 17, Sutherland Springs 17, Parkland 18, Pittsburgh Senegal, El Paso 19, 2022 Rob Elementary, I guarantee I have done the research, brought together experts.
I confirmed Sandy Hook, Charleston, San Bernardino, Paul's, Las Vegas, Sutherland Spring, Parkland, Pittsburgh, all fake, all phony, all staged for political design.
As I mentioned, one of my contributors to Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
For example, Paul Preston, a school administrator of California who supervised active shooting events, was so disturbed by what he saw coming out of Newtown, he contacted, he reached to his contacts in the Obama Department of Education, all of whom confirmed of him.
It had been a drill.
No children had been harmed and it was done to promote gun control.
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Don't be late.
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Well, get this.
The UN is recognized as a state of Palestine without Hamas.
Even Ukraine voted yes, but the U.S. and Israel voted no.
The General Assembly also overwhelmingly supported disarming the militant group and make it seed control of Gaza, but they're only there to defend themselves from the ongoing slaughter.
It would be insane to propose Hamas should disarm itself when it's under onslaught by the IDF.
Surely, no rational souls at the United Nations can mean that that could take place now, but only in a completely different environment.
Meanwhile, this Hedges has called out the death of the Holocaust industry.
Nearly all Holocaust scholars who see in any criticism of Israel a betrayal of the Holocaust have refused to condemn the genocide in Gaza.
Not one of the institutions dedicated to researching commenting on the Holocaust have drawn the obvious historical parallels or decried the mass slaughter of Palestinians.
Holocaust scholars, with a handful of exceptions, have exposed their true purpose, which is not to examine the dark side of human nature, the frightening propensity we all have to commit evil, but to sanctify Jews as eternal victims and absolve the ethno-national estate of Israel, the current settler colonialism, apartheid and genocide.
Brilliant.
He's got it exactly right.
Meanwhile, Caitlin Johnstone, celebrities, should have been calling out the Gaza Holocaust this entire time.
Hacks co-star Hannah Ihender said, Free Palestine during her acceptance speech for best supporting actress at the Emmys on Sunday.
Question by the press afterward.
Ayn Binder said she had friends in Gaza added, I feel like it's my obligation as a Jewish person to distinguish Jews from the state of Israel because our religion and our culture is such an important and long-standing institution as really separate to this kind of ethno-nationalist state.
Very nice.
I followed Ayn Bonder on Instagram a long time because she's been among the few in Hollywood consistently using their influential voice to oppose the genocide.
And it's very good she said these things.
Hopefully we'll see more of this.
Don't count on it.
Meanwhile, Dennis Kucinich gave a talk at the 9-11 conference from Twin Towers to Shock and Hall, investigating U.S.-Israel collusion and the road to war involving 9-11.
The U.S. and Israel aligned in prevarication, determinedly, wrongly associating the motive, intent, and execution of the attacks with Saddam Hussein in Iraq.
Actually, Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.
Even more absurdly, Saddam had nothing to do with it.
Immediately after 9-11, Net Anyahu, who was in America, he was here for the event.
He was asked by BBC what the event meant for U.S.-Israeli relations.
It's very good, he said.
Then caught himself.
Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.
Then on September 12th, in a CNN interview, he said, it's not just bin Laden, it's not just the networks, it's also the states that harbor and support them: Iraq, Iran, the Taliban in Afghanistan.
In other words, issuing the marching orders to the United States.
A few days later, on September 16, Vice President Cheney appeared on Meet the Pressing claim.
We also have evidence that Saddam Hussein had been harboring terrorists, including al-Qaeda.
And of course, we would learn from Wesley Clark: the plan was to take out the governments of seven countries in the next five years, including Afghanistan and Iraq, Libya, ending with Syria and Iran.
And they've got six of the seven.
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As I've explained, the U.S. Geological Survey did dust sample studies from 35 locations in lower Manhattan and found elements that would not have been there had this not been a nuclear event, that they brought in tons of dirt to absorb the radiation, just as occurred at Chernobyl, and that the pattern of medical maladies thereafter was a similar replication.
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State of the nation has been doing great work.
Here they got a peace sign as crazy makers.
U.S. lawmakers introduced thought police bill to strip citizens of passports over Israel criticism.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio has revoked visas and green cards of foreign nationals for opposing Israel genocide of Palestinians in Gaza.
And now they want to do it for American citizens.
A U.S. congressman is introducing a bill that could be used to deny U.S. citizens the right to travel based solely on their speech, including for criticism of Israel, the intercept reported on 13 September, introduced by Florida Congressman Brian Mast, chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
The bill would grant Secretary of State Marco Rubio power to revoke the passport of U.S. citizens the same way as revoke green cards and visas of foreign nationals for criticizing Israel for crying out loud.
The First Amendment protects us from criticism, allows us to criticize our own government.
Now we're not going to be allowed to criticize a foreign government.
Meanwhile, Barack Obama had a whole lot with unleashing all those phony attacks.
I was listing there that the state of the nation has also listed Obama's repeal of Smith-Mutt, let U.S. propaganda hit Americans, infiltrate universities media in court.
Smith-Mutt is trending on X. Absolutely right.
The Smith-Mutt Modernization Act of 2012 repealed the Smith-Mutt Act of 1948, which precluded the use of the same techniques of disinformation and propaganda, including staged events, paid riots and the like, from happening in the United States, even though it was allowed to happen abroad.
He basically legalized stunts like Sandy Hook by nullifying the Smith-Mutt Act.
And if you want to know how bad it is, check out my Sandy Hook, What We Know Now That We Doesn't I gave a few years ago, actually, 10 Feb 2024.
You'll understand the whole thing.
And you'll be introduced to my Sandy Hook friends who are so upset about the way I was being abused in the courts that they reached out to lend their support and even sent me additional proofs.
I'm talking about two of the participants in the drill: the girl who was cast as Emily Parker, little blonde-eyed, blue-eyed girl, very much alive and well.
The woman who was cast as Victoria or Vicki Soto, teacher who allegedly heroically gave her life, she's alive and well.
They both were supportive through mutual friend who sent me additional proof to what I already had, including the Connecticut FEMA schedule showing the event for the Newtown drill to take place, Exercise L366, right on the schedule.
Meanwhile, here we have a move to enact the Charlie Kirk Act to restore media accountability.
The issue, as an American and a mother, I watched a powerful and influential man die in a public setting, surrounded by thousands who simply came to engage in a dialogue championing free speech, truth, and our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Charlie's life was taken, not from any wrongdoing of his own, in a climate where unfounded allegations of misinformation, like the false claim that Charlie advocated stoning gays to death, can be openly spread by mainstream media figures and platforms.
These allegations lack any substantial evidence, yet fueled hatred, offering a stark reminder of the extent to which misinformation can endanger lives.
We find ourselves calling for the uplifting and re-implementation of the Smith-Mutt Act, a pivotal legislative piece that safeguarded the American public from the manipulation and dissemination of false information.
However, in this new era, it should be revitalized and renamed as the Charlie Kirk Act.
I support it 100%.
Meanwhile, there's an awful lot.
Who killed Charlie Cook, the case against Israel?
Just a couple of days.
In just a couple of days, an impressive amount of information has been brought to light, pointing to Israel's strong motive to take out Charlie Kirk, ASAP.
Here, I will compile the information as I found it on X and other internet outlets.
In doing so, I am not influenced by my personal opinion about Kirk.
I hardly ever listened to him before, the last three days.
And my opinion was mostly negative.
Today, I still feel Nick Fuendes was right in his very severe judgment of him as a lackey of Israel, paid to keep the mega movement in line with Israel's interest, even when he was doing some damage control.
I similarly, I never paid attention to Charlie Kirk, but after this event, I've looked into it and I have a very favorable opinion, especially that he was responding to the atrocities committed by Israel, no longer playing the game, not taking their $150 million bribe, being assailed on all sides for not being sufficiently supportive of Israel and its atrocities.
Meanwhile, it's more about Max Bloom.
I managed to dredge up Instagram photos from some of the influencers who I confirmed to be at the meeting, especially photos by someone named Xavier de Rousseau, who I'd say very few people watching this have probably heard of.
I've never heard of him.
I hadn't heard much about him before.
I reached him on the phone.
Like everyone else who attended this meeting that I reached, he was flustered, freaked out by my call, immediately like went silent.
He was kind of in a state of panic.
They're all nervous about being identified with this meeting.
Xavier de Rousseau is an employee of Prager U, which is this conservative indoctrination outlet that focuses on youth, including young people.
This is another Christian nationalist gaggle.
Run by Marissa Strait, who is a Jewish Zionist who served in Israel's Unit 8200 cyber spying division.
And Xavier de Rousseau was sent with Israeli government money to a Gaza Humanitarian Foundation site two weeks after that meeting in the Hamptons, where he mocked the famine in Gaza in very disgusting fashion, said Hamas leaders are on Ozempic because they're getting so fat off all the food they're getting.
And that's his role.
That's the role of many of the other influencers who are sent there.
And kind of like, that's what Charlie Kirk was surrounded by there, along with Bill Ackman, who apparently organized this entire thing, who has been just since October 7th, strong-arming his way through institutions across this country to bully them into pro-Israel submission.
And apparently, his next target was Charlie Kirk because of what Charlie Kirk was doing at TPUSA, specifically allowing Tucker Carlson to come on stage and referring to Bill Ackman as a Jeffrey Epstein associate who was a scam artist and a charlatan who had made his money through nebulous means.
And so it all kind of fits together.
I think Max Blumenthal is doing a fantastic job.
I'm so impressed with him.
Meanwhile, Charlie claimed that Epstein was a Mossad agent.
That's also so.
You and I are both supporters of Israel and have defended Israel since the beginning of this conflict and spoken out about the anti-Semitism that has erupted on these college campuses many, many, many, many times.
And something's happening, though, with this whole debate that is really bothering me.
And I wonder if you're feeling it too.
So I mean, I genuinely believe you'd be hard pressed to find somebody in the public eye who's been as outspoken a defender of not every move Israel's taken in the war, but of Israel's right to defend itself and of the just backward awfulness that we've been seeing on college campuses and the backlash against American Jews.
Then yours truly.
I mean, I have been at the pointy end of the spear on this.
I completely agree with that.
And it was all heartfelt and it remains heartfelt.
However, however, my contention here is that some in the pro-Israel camp are so knee-jerk about calling you anti-Semitic or getting deeply offended if you say anything that doesn't align with their narrative that it undermines their own cause.
And I have to tell you, I find it very irritating because I do feel like some of us have earned the right to have some credibility on the subject of Israel and don't want to be called those names when we have some mild pushback on some of the overreaches, whether it's, you know, whether they're winning or losing the propaganda war right now.
And my contention is they've begun to lose it.
And I realize it's propaganda coming at us from Hamas, but their numbers have turned here in America.
They've turned, not so much with Republicans, a little bit with Republicans, but completely with the Democrat Party and with independents.
They have shifted mightily from at least double digits highs to single digit lows now when it comes to approval.
And also with respect to you and I speculated about this at the turning point event, whether the possibility of Jeffrey Epstein possibly being a Mossad agent or asset or affiliated with, that's been turned around on me too, to you must be anti-Semitic.
What the hell?
That's such bullshit.
The same people who say you can criticize Israel, that's fine.
We won't call you anti-Semitic if you criticize Israel.
Turn around immediately and say, you're anti-Semitic for even raising that.
I completely reject that.
And I raise this as a pushback against my friends on that particular strain of the aisle to watch it because you don't want to alienate people who are openly your friends by going nuts in your crackdowns on mild pushback on anything related to Israel.
Now you take it.
I'm so glad you brought this up.
And I would second that.
Megan, I think I have a bulletproof resume showing my defense of Israel, both on campus, on social media, to great, you know, let's just say mockery and scorn at times where I, because I believe it, right?
I believe in the scriptural land rights given to Israel.
I believe in fulfillment of prophecy.
And again, I'm not a theologian, but I'm a Christian.
My life was changed in Israel.
The spiritual energy is so amazing there.
I want them to win.
I've said that repeatedly.
And however, Megan, you're hitting on something very potent and important.
Now, let me first say, I don't want to judge an entire group because there's been many people in the pro-Israel world that have been very sweet, very kind, very nuanced, very charly.
You know, you're with us.
You don't have to agree all the time.
However, and I will say this, the behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly, are pushing people like you and me away.
Not like we're going to be pro-Hamas, not like we're going to, but we're like, honestly, the way you are treating me is so repulsive.
I have text messages, Megan, calling me an anti-Semite.
I am learning biblical Hebrew and writing a book on the Shabbat.
I honor the Shabbat, literally the Jewish Sabbath.
I visit Israel and fight for it.
And there's another article out in the Times of Israel today.
I could read it on air.
I was just reading before I got on.
Charlie, what are you doing?
Like, why are you, what am I doing?
I'm sorry.
Like, let's just take a step back here.
Like, I'm an American citizen.
Yes, I want Israel to win.
Yes, I'm a Christian.
But like, some of the mess, and you saw it, and you've seen how I've been treated, Megan, by some, not all, by some.
No, it's very irritating.
It's unfair.
They were coming after you after a turning point for, among other things, and you had Dave Smith there.
Dave Smith is allowed to criticize Israel with both sides.
The Israeli side was all about the people.
You're not allowed to, though.
No, you're not allowed to.
It's even worse than that.
Again, I just want to repeat for the fifth time.
I love Israel.
I want Israel to win.
But my moral character is now being put into question, Megan.
Not my decisions.
Not like, hey, are you doing this?
Is it smart or is it dumb?
But no, I am a bad person if I do this.
And I could go, I mean, you saw it, Megan.
It was trending on Twitter.
Thousands of tweets and text messages.
And if I were to be charitable and generous, I will say the people that are attacking me are in a hyper-paranoid state because they're at war and war tends to make things black and white.
And you're a hammer looking for a nail.
So I'm trying to be charitable, Megan.
Literally, I'm trying to cut as much slack as I can, right?
Like, okay, what.
They don't deserve the slack.
Obviously, they want Charlie to be a 100% shill and every word out of his mouth to be pro-Israel in the extreme.
It's very, very bad.
Meanwhile, we have the Utah governor saying the alleged Kirk shooter not cooperating with authorities.
I had a report where the governor was saying he should not cooperate here in the world, apparently just not cooperating.
Meanwhile, the governor claims that trans boyfriend wasn't involved because he says he wasn't involved.
Whole thing about the trans boyfriend is ridiculous.
This whole story about this suspect is bewildering.
It's such a fantasy.
Would someone please explain to me how a book about the murder of Charlie Kirk came out the day before the shooting, and then Amazon removed it right away.
I reported this before.
It came out on the night.
The shooting was on the tent.
State of the nation nailed it.
How can that happen?
Meanwhile, even the alleged murder weapon doesn't compute for Charlie Kirk's assassination.
And when they talk about him assembling or disassembling with a Mauser, that's a challenge.
It requires a special tool, a lot of torque.
This whippy little kid didn't even have the strength to do it.
So, what are the chances?
Two guys standing behind a man who's just about to be killed are just randomly making military hand signals.
Meanwhile, Nick Uenti's exposed Charlie Kirk turning point, 80 million APAC donor machine, but Charlie turned down 150 mil, a massive bribe from BB.
Meanwhile, media seek to link Charlie Fuentes and Groipers, some right-wing nationalist group to the shooting, even though there's no evidence whatsoever.
Meanwhile, YouTube has taken down the video where Charlie questioned whether Israel issued a stand-down order on October 7th.
Bad, bad, bad.
Meanwhile, genocide questions are avoided as Starmer meets Israeli president.
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Puppet regime indeed, puppet regime indeed.
And I think the wonderful aspect of this, Charlie Kirkavan, is everyone thinks Israel did it.
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Everyone is seeing the genocide as a massive horror store.
Everyone is seeing genocide as a wrong side of this issue.
Everyone sees genocide Israel as using assassination again and again and again.
They used it in Iran.
They used it in Qatar.
They used it against Hezbollah.
They used it against the Houthis.
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Welcome to the second air of Authentic News, right here in Arabian Live, the 17th day of September 2025, where I take your calls.
Couple callers standing by.
First up, Rick from Arizona.
Rick, join the conversation.
Okay, good afternoon, Dr. Fetzer.
Goebbels said that if you tell a lie, they go British media.
You tell a lie big enough and long enough, it becomes the truth.
And that's what we're going to do with this Robinson character.
In the real world of homicide investigation and the district attorney, this motive to kill Kirk is too flimsy for a district attorney to sign off on the homicide investigators' request for an arrest.
Okay.
You have to have a valid motive to charge somebody with murder.
We don't have this guy with the gun in his hand.
I've heard nothing, give you nothing about a bullet that matches the gun.
This is an empty case.
But in this case, they're just going to repeat the lie until it becomes the truth.
The motive is all on Israel.
The evidence is overwhelming that Charlie was wandering off to kibbutz.
Okay.
And you know that, right, Doctor?
Oh, sure.
I've been emphasizing it.
You must have heard me say that a dozen times in the first hour.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I was listening your first hour.
You know.
But I don't know how this is going to play out.
Nobody's going to buy this Patsy story.
It's too ridiculous.
He came from a conservative right-wing family.
He doesn't have any real experience with weapons.
He fired a BB gun when he was a kid.
That Mauser weapon, he's supposed to have disassembled it because we don't see him running away to escape with it, and yet it's found in the woods of Sampolg.
So they claim he disassembled it, but it would have been a feat that would have taken longer than he had time.
He's supposed to have also changed his clothes.
They mucked up in so many different ways, Rick, that I'm not at all concerned anyone's going to buy it.
This is a ridiculous Patsy, and the story is absolutely fantastic.
The country has become far more sophisticated in seeing through these things than has been true in the past.
So while I agree that it might have been true 30, 40 years ago, they could get away with a scam, portraying this guy as a Patsy.
They aren't going to be able to get away with it here and now.
I'm telling you, I'm seeing one report after another just eviscerating the very idea this kid did it.
Even my wife, and she and I have tremendous differences politically or have in the past, showed me two photographs of the alleged suspect, and there was two different guys.
And she's agreeing this whole story about the Patsy is ridiculous.
Well, she's not a hyper-critical thinker like some of us, right?
And yet she sees through it already.
I'm telling you, it ain't going to fly, Rick.
They're going to try, but they're making idiots out of themselves.
And when you have the attorney for the county come out and give that list of claiming we got his impression up on the roof, we got his fingerprints on the gun.
He did etchings on the bullet.
Think about that.
He's supposed to have taken four of these bullets as shell casing and performed etchings on them, which requires special equipment and training.
It's a complete fantasy.
Whoever they had to write that script with the, they ought to get be fired because it's so ridiculous, Rick.
Yeah.
Well, you know, Charlie was naive and he was ignorant and unaware of, you know, the ferocity of these people.
You know, and he was becoming red-filled by the college kids that he was, you know, around all the time.
And now he was influencing, and you could hear it in the interview with Megan Kelly, how she was on board with what Charlie was saying.
And this is, I'll tell you right now, this is a red alert.
This is sirens going off in the Jewish community.
And in my opinion, there's no way anybody else did this crime.
Thanks for taking the call.
Sure, Rick.
Glad, gladly, gladly, gladly.
If you look at the evidence I have provided, look at these three.
Charlie Cook shooting 100% fake from 15th September.
Charlie Kirk, the character is dead, but the actor is still very much alive.
Backstage camera, confirmation it was a hoax.
You see the blood packpack he's got underneath his t-shirt.
You see the little opening at the back of his neck where the blood spurted out.
I tell you, however much you may be predisposed to believe Mossad actually did it, this was a fake.
This was a fraud.
I have a very dear colleague.
We speak daily, provides me with lots of important stories that I share with you, who's convinced Charlie would not ever have participated in faking his death.
He would rather have been shot.
Well, maybe Charlie would rather have been shot, but his wife and his kids wouldn't rather be shot.
Look at the evidence.
He faked it for whatever the reason.
And I say it's wonderful because this has created so much controversy.
It's such a tiny event.
One shot, one death.
Everyone can wrap their mind around it.
And I'm telling you, it's having tremendous enlightening benefits because everyone thinks, just as Rick thinks that Mossad did it, well, you want Mossad running around killing all of our political leaders, all of our champions?
They've had a hell of a record in the past.
They were among the shooters that took out JFK in Dallas for a certainty.
I have no doubt, RFK at the ambassador in Los Angeles, that was a Mossad hit.
And there are many, many others.
So what I'm saying is, so much of the world is now looking at Israel, looking at the genocide, looking at their phony story about October 7th, looking at bombing Iran and the U.S. being complicit in supporting the genocide.
I say this is wonderful.
And whether you believe it was real or believe it was fake, it had sensational, very welcome consequences.
Next, Paul in New Jersey.
Paul, welcome back.
Paul.
Yeah, hello, Mr. Fester.
One problem I have with people who would like fake their death, because, you know, we've heard that about Elvis might still be alive and John Lennon might still be alive and Jim Morrison was still alive.
Problem with that is people who seek the limelight, they're really never ever going to want to go away and not be in the limelight.
It's like Donald Trump.
Donald Trump wants to be the center of attention.
And in the case of a lot of performers, artists, famous people, they can't stop themselves from being seen in public.
You know, even John Lennon, yeah, he took a few years off and he raised his son in New York.
But then finally, he started coming out with his double fantasy album at the end.
So none of these guys ever, no matter how much you pay them.
And by the way, Charlie Kirk had plenty of money anyway.
He was rich.
No way would he ever giving up his favorite past mind of standing in front of a crowd of people and torturing younger and less well-read people than himself.
So that's, I think, the problem with the theory that he is, you know, choose retirement, go off into obscurity, get racial security.
If you'll forgive my saying so, this kind of arrogance just drives me up the wall.
People who think they know the facts without looking at the evidence, you're obviously not looking at the evidence.
You can see the blood packet on his back.
You can see the little spout.
So, Paul, you're such a smart guy.
I'm just so frustrated with individuals like you and my friend who's telling me Charlie would never fake his death.
Well, would he rather be dead or alive?
Would he rather be a dead coward or alive having faked it so he could spend the rest of his life with his family?
You have to look at the evidence.
I am exasperated.
I am furious.
I go to all this trouble to put the evidence together and figure out what the hell happened.
And then I got people like you coming on telling me, oh, they just know what's wrong with this theory of his faking his death when they haven't even looked at the evidence, Paul.
I'm really pissed off.
I don't like it.
You look at the evidence and then you come back and tell me he didn't fake his death.
I'm really exasperated in the extreme, not only with you, but others whom I esteem.
I hold you in high regard, but this is a colossal blunder, presuming a priori without looking at the evidence.
You know what?
They all happen.
When I've given you the evidence, I prove it was fake.
It is there.
Let's turn to Gregan, California.
I'm exasperated with Paul.
Gregan, California.
Greg.
Yeah, hi, Jim.
I got four points really quick, but I do want to end up on the Charlie Cook bakery.
The first one is interest rate, interest rates.
They're going to lower interest rates a quarter percent.
I think interest rates are too high, but when they lower the interest rate, inflation goes up because it costs more to import your stuff.
That was my first point.
My second point, I was watching the Corbett report with Congressman Kurt Weldon on 9-11, and he's pissed off.
He's working with a bunch of firefighters, and he was at that conference, and he was talking about this firefighter who was a triathlon runner and stuff.
And he was on the 78th floor, and he called in and he said, there's a fire, but we can put it out.
I think it was the 78th floor.
And we could put it out with two hoses, two hoses, and then it dropped about like a minute later.
You're right.
He was in the South Tower.
He said, we caught a couple of modest fires out here.
I think a couple lines we can take it out.
And that's when they pushed the button and destroyed the South Tower.
You're 100% correct.
Keep going.
That's right, Professor.
And then I forgot his name.
And then my third point, I was listening to David Scribino that interview.
Yeah.
Okay.
And the thing is, Nietzsche called it a slave religion.
Nietzsche.
And Nietzsche called Christianity a slave religion.
Yes, sir.
Go ahead.
And the thing is, is you had this cult called the Hessenes of these cults of Jews who thought they would all be resurrected and everybody would rise up from the ground up into the air.
And that's why Paul says in one of his books, he says, we will meet the Lord in the air, right?
Then he changes his view to the Hellenistic view, which is heaven, which comes from like chapter nine of Homer, where one guy, one warrior is killed, and then he goes down to Hades and then he comes back and says he sees heaven, and that's where heaven comes from for so he adopted the Hellenistic ideals.
All the stuff, you know, about religion and Jesus is so up in the air.
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I've really preferred not to go there.
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I entertained it as a possibility, kicked it around with Mike.
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It seems to have worked out well.
I mean, I like the guy, very cordial, like myself, a professional philosopher.
I thought he spoke very clearly, and I didn't find a lot to contest.
But then again, as I've said many times, I'm no expert in theology.
I'm no expert in religion.
I'm an expert in a whole lot of subjects, but they do not include those.
So I'm open to diversity of points of view.
Go right ahead and tell us more, Greg.
Go ahead.
Okay.
And then on the Charlie Kirk thing, if you got shot in the neck with a 30-odd stick, it would pretty much damn near take your head off, don't you think?
Yeah, and it would have been blood all over the place.
And there was no blood behind.
I even went through.
There was no blood even on his shoes, on his sneakers.
They were lily white.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Some of the stories we're getting here.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Yeah, they would have been flipping and sliding in all that blood.
There's no way.
It's just crazy how they kind of.
Yeah.
And he would have been.
Let me just add, Greg, he would have been dead on the spot.
And if you've got a body there, that's a crime scene.
You do not move it.
You do not destroy evidence.
You get people away.
You, you know, cover it off.
You get the police in there and they conduct a forensic exam.
Instead, they picked up the body and rushed it off to the SUV.
It wasn't any blood on the ground.
There was no blood on his shoes.
There's not enough blood anywhere.
And they dismantled the tent right away.
Go ahead.
Hello.
Yeah.
Did I lose you, Greg?
Hang on one second.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I think we lost Greg.
Can you hear me?
There he is.
No, yeah, I can hear you now, Greg.
Go right ahead.
I wanted more from you.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Greg.
I think Greg can't hear me, Mike.
I think that's a catch.
I think Greg can't hear me.
Let's go to Dave in Texas.
Dave in Texas.
If Greg calls back, good.
We'll put him on.
Dave in Texas, join the conversation, Dave.
Yeah?
Good afternoon, Jim.
How are you?
Good.
Wonderful.
You know, I took a look at this whole thing, and I guarantee that whatever is in the mainstream media is not what happened.
I go along with the contention that the guy is still alive, probably sitting in Tel Aviv somewhere.
I think Turning Point USA was a massage operation from its very exception.
I think his wife is probably his handler.
When you take a look at her connection to the Miss USA or Miss whatever pageant and Trump owned it, and there's too many interconnecting things that make you just go, man, this is just another, it's another set set up from, you know, for the Talmudic theater that's being played up.
Yeah, I think there's a lot to that, but he's not in Tel Aviv.
The Mossad really is gunning for him.
In fact, that's the most reservation I have about explaining he faked his death is they may want to now track him down and kill him for good.
I mean, after all, the guy's already dead, but he won't be in Tel Aviv.
BB was furious with him.
You heard about that meeting in the Hamptons.
They were savaging him because he wasn't being sufficiently supportive of Israel.
He wasn't being sufficiently enthusiastic.
They wanted his scalp.
I don't have any doubt about it.
So he, confronted with the dilemma, having turned down this, he had an offer of silver or lead, having turned down the $150 million bribe.
He knew he was headed for lead.
They were going to kill him.
So he faked his death to Breempton.
You know, Trump faked his death at Butler.
That's why I call this Butler 2.0, 2.0.
Go ahead.
Tell us more.
More, Dave.
Well, I think it's very reasonable, and there are certain things that we're not going to know.
But I also think that the only thing that I can think of where this is part of like the psychology of the whole thing is everybody that is anti-Israel is going to stick their head up and make themselves known.
Whereas before they could kind of lay in the weeds.
And I think that was part of the whole operation for those people to self-identify.
So Israel and the Jews and the Mossad or whatever you want to call it, that entity has targets that are just sitting up and saying, here I am.
Dave, there are too many.
The world has turned against Israel.
Even the turning point, this is Gen Z survey showed 65% support Hamas.
He was reflecting the views of his own students.
He had a leadership role.
He was doing a great job.
They were out to take, there are too many now, Dave.
We have turned, you know, I say it's been a turning point, this event with Charlie Kirk, whether you think it was real or think it was fake.
It is a turning point against Israel.
Mark my words.
Stay boy.
I'll keep you on.
We'll be right back with Dave.
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Let me just say to Greg in California, if you can call back in, call back in, Greg.
We only got halfway done our conversation.
I'll get you back on the air.
Dave, continue your thoughts, Dave.
That's about it, Jim.
Like I say, there's so many things that smell fishy.
The only thing that can really be determined is what you're being told by the mainstream media is what actually happened.
But look, see, when we're being given stories that violate laws of cause and effect, when we're given a story violating the laws of aerodynamics about the plane skimming the ground at the Pentagon at over 400 miles an hour,
when it's not even aerodynamically possible because of ground effect, the plane couldn't have got closer than 60 or 80 feet to the ground, taller than the Pentagon at 71 feet is tall.
When we have a plane crash in Shanksville, but there's no evidence of any plane having crashed there.
That can only be because no plane crashed there.
When we have a plane entering the South Tower with no collision effects, when it passes its whole length into the building in the same number of frames it passes its own length through air, which is only possible if a massive 500,000 steel and concrete building provides no more resistance to the trajectory of a plane in flight than air.
When you have a guy shot with a 30 ought six and there isn't blood all over the place, there's no blood on his shoe, there's no blood on the background behind him, there's no blood on the ground when they've cart him off, you're being played.
And when I can show you that he was wearing a backpack, a blood kit with a little spout in the back of his neck, I'm not going to tolerate it when somebody tells me, oh, I think, without looking at the evidence, if you can obtain away the evidence, okay.
I'll take you seriously.
But people are telling me, no, Charlie Kirk was too much of a man of integrity.
He would have allowed himself to be have his brain splattered out by the Mossad rather than faking his death so he could live on with his wife and his kids.
I'd say, how do you know that for crying out loud?
You know what?
I don't call that integrity.
I call that stupidity.
So, you know, I'm just not impressed.
And when you got somebody as smart as Paul calling in and issuing bullshit, I'm not going to sit by passively and take it.
He's smarter than that.
I'm telling you, I go to all the damn trouble.
I've been doing this since 1992, sorting out the difference between authentic and real evidence.
That is what I do.
I bring together the best experts ever study these cases, whether it's JFK, 9-11, Wellstone, Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, on and on to now.
Charlie Cook, I know what I'm doing.
Initially, however, and this is fascinating, Friday, last Friday, right here on this show, I was emphasizing how it was a Mossad hit.
And this is a perfect illustration of scientific reasoning as you gather more evidence, more alternative hypotheses.
You may have to reject hypotheses you previously accepted, accept hypotheses you previously rejected, and leave others in suspense.
And then when the evidence has settled down and all points in the same direction, you're entitled to accept the best supported hypothesis as true in the tentative, infallible fashion of science.
That's what we've gone through here.
It's really a startling example because it was me myself being the subject of this exercise of learning more about it.
Over the whole weekend, I was just going madly putting together stories about Charlie Kirk and bringing together experts, one with screen actor guilt credits, another law enforcement who's really brilliant at sorting out fakery, and then Joe Olson to boot.
And we put it together Monday morning.
And that's why I say, go and look.
Charlie Kirk shooting 100% fake, 15 September 2025.
Go ahead, Dave.
Go ahead.
I wholeheartedly agree, Jim.
On an aside issue, have you ever heard of a gentleman by the name of Dmitry Kalazov?
Sure.
He was among the earliest.
He was among the earliest to propose the nuke hypothesis for 9-11.
Correct.
I was just wondering if you had heard him.
Yeah, yeah.
Anybody mentioned him?
I know I haven't.
I haven't mentioned him, but he's been at the back of my mind.
I'm glad you bring it up.
He was brilliant.
He was a Russian and he talked about what really had happened on 9-11.
And then it was others who picked up on it and have done so much more.
Dave, this is really excellent.
A final thought, Dave.
Have a good afternoon.
I'm glad you called, Dave.
I'll be listening.
I'm glad you called back.
We got Greg.
We got Greg back.
I'm glad Greg in California joined the conversation again, Greg.
Welcome.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Hey, Professor.
What's with all the there's got to be more cameras than that.
We're not seeing all the cameras.
And then the other thing is, I heard this FBI guy who has a podcast on Redacted and he said that.
Hang on, Greg, hold that thought.
Hold that time.
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Go ahead, Greg.
Go ahead.
Yeah, so what we have here is just like everything else in the Trump administration, you have a bunch of hack.
You got Kash Patel testifying in front of Congress, and he's calling this guy a suspect.
And the FBI uses the language of subject.
They call him subjects.
And this FBI guy that was on Redacted, he said that if you don't use the language of the organization, these people are not going to respect you.
So nobody respects these guys.
Plus, they were friends with Charlie Kirk, which means that they were a conflict of interest.
So if that guy has a decent lawyer, they're going to have a total mission because they were showing up there.
They did not dismiss themselves from the case.
What do they call it?
Where you dismiss yourself from the case.
Recuse, recuse, recuse, recuse.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this is a big issue, and nobody's talking about it.
As I've already mentioned, the fact that this county DA came out and laid out all this detailed evidence has poisoned the whole jury.
The whole thing's absurd.
The idea changed his clothes and then he changed his clothes back, then he disassembled the web and then he reassembled the web and they jumped out with his barrel in his trousers.
It's absurd.
It's just absurd.
Dave, I don't know why.
You can't hear me.
You can't hear me.
Dave, thanks.
Greg.
Greg, give us a final thought if you can hear at all.
Yeah.
Yeah, you got it, Greg.
Thanks for calling back.
We got Gabriel in Arkansas, Gabriel in Arkansas, join the conversation, Gabriel.
Professor Fetzer, I've been listening to your news because I think you offer the best news, in my opinion.
And that's really all I wanted to say.
Thank you.
Well, that's very kind of you.
Very kind of you, Gabriel.
I appreciate that vote of support.
Cynthia in California, join the conversation, Cynthia.
Thank you, Dr. Future.
You know, this Charlie Kirk story has kicked out of the news the most important story, and you're the one that broke that story, which is that that is not Donald Trump and hasn't been since 1989, which means anything his administration did was not legitimate.
You understand?
He ran up our debt.
They've run up the debt because they will invade the country if you don't pay that treasury bill.
Okay.
Remember, Russia right now is threatening to invade countries that didn't seize their assets.
So it would be great if, A, you could pin that story to the top of your James H.org.
But there's one other thing I think you should do.
And this is that so much of the debt over this decades, many decades, has not been legitimate debt.
Money sent to other countries is not legitimate debt.
And to get Catherine Austin fit with that professor of accounting that helped her figure out, verify the $21 trillion.
And maybe G.R. Mowgli in there to have some discussions going on.
I'm going to have discussions about how much of the debt we should not be paying, and we need to pin it on the people who are the fraudsters.
Yeah.
Let me just say a couple of things about this.
Even if it isn't the original Donald Trump, it's too humongous a problem to expose this.
We had four years of a Joe Biden who was obviously not the real Joe Biden and it was allowed to pass.
It was outrageous and insulting.
So, Cynthia, I'm sorry to say I do not think these impersonations are going anywhere, even though I'm convinced they are true.
You're garbles.
Really?
That's so interesting.
You're garbled.
Thank you, Cynthia.
I don't know what to say about that.
Mike and Mike.
I can't make out.
Thank you.
I don't know what's going on.
I'd be having fun trouble.
Okay, okay, okay.
Cynthia, give us a final thought.
Cynthia, your final thought.
We lost Cynthia.
I don't know.
I guess you can't hear.
Okay, we got Alexander in Canada.
Give me Alexander in Canada, please.
Alexander, join the conversation.
Yes, thank you.
So, look, sir, I just want to make sure that I get this correctly.
So, yesterday I said that it was the Jewish people from the left, like such as BLM, who are the people who support abortion, who are anti-gun, who are pro-illegal immigration, that killed him.
Like, those are the Jews who come from Habab Lugovich, who support all these leftist organizations and who are anti-Christy.
You said the leftists would not do that because the whole event was fake, right?
Yeah, what I'm saying, Alexander, we'd be open to various theories about who killed him, where the Mossad far and away would be in the lead, except it was fake.
It was a staged event.
He wasn't killed.
So, we can't blame it on the leftists because there's no body.
He didn't die.
It was fake.
Go right ahead, Alexander.
Now, if there were a body, your theory would deserve considerations along with other theories.
But I'm telling you, Mossad, Bibi wanted the guy dead.
I don't have any doubt about that.
So there was real motive.
They could have done it.
They just didn't.
He preempted them.
He beat them to the punch.
Go ahead.
Now, Mr. Luke, I want to just follow up on what you just said just now.
You said that BB, Benjamin Diana, wanted him dead.
My question is: why?
Why would he want him dead?
I know what you're going to say, because he became anti-Israel.
See, Timmy, that's not convincing to me.
You see, all the Jews had to do was get him fired, cancel his YouTube channel, or like boycott his speaking events, and so on.
Why would the prime minister of Israel kill a guy like him who is nobody?
It makes sense for Peter Santaniel to kill people to kill the military people in Iran or to kill or to kill the military defense minister of Iran or Syria or whatever.
That makes sense.
Alexander.
Israeli his whole life.
Alexander, Steve Bannon, Steve Bannon was describing as the greatest man of his generation, Charlie Kirk.
You don't understand how he was perceived in American and other political circles, Alexander.
You're at a total loss.
Now, I hadn't paid a lot of attention to Charlie Kirk, but there are a whole lot of people who had.
And you may have missed a point that this Gen Z, this group, this turning point USA, was turning against Israel.
They had 65% for Hamas.
They can't stand that.
Israel looks to the future.
They can't have all the young people they want to convince to Zionism being supportive of Hamas.
Charlie, in their opinion, wasn't doing a good enough job.
So they want to put in, you know, a Stooge.
You know, they're Stooges galore.
We're going to have Ben Shapiro, who's a Zionist zealot, is supposed to be running turning point, but it's going to fall apart because the followers supporting Hamas when Charlie is supporting the IDF and the genocide, that ain't going to play.
Go ahead, Alexander.
It's just a matter of perception.
You're just not perceiving Charlie's role here properly.
Go ahead.
See, look, I've been following Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk's role in helping the cause, whether it's Palestine or anti-war or helping the white people has been a joke.
Charlie Kirk has been controlled to opposition this whole time.
And just like the first caller said, or the guy after him, turning point USA was a Mossad operation.
This guy's been getting money from the Jews for years and years.
Yeah.
And so look.
If I may intervene, it's like they say Hamas, Hamas was originally funded by BB.
Well, Rust took a life of its own.
Charlie Kirk took a life of his own.
You're right about the origins.
That doesn't determine the future.
He was becoming independent.
Candace knew him real well.
She's talking about all the grief he was going through.
Tucker's talking about how Charlie had come around.
He was trying to question the genocide, bombing Iran, October 7th, all that.
You have missed the turning point for Charlie Kirk, in my opinion.
Go right ahead.
I mean, you're entitled to your view.
I love having you here, Alexander.
I take your cause.
You go right ahead.
But I'm telling you, they weren't happy with Charlie.
And they couldn't just fire him.
Hell, he's amazingly successful.
He had a huge amount of support.
Very popular.
Very popular.
Go ahead.
Look, sorry, I know he's very powerful, but see, the Jews could easily destroy him in two seconds.
Like he was nobody.
You're going to compare his power to the Jewish power.
And so, look, the Gen Z people that you're talking about to a pro-Palestinian, a lot of these people are anti-Kirk.
I've seen a lot of videos of Gen Z people making videos.
They said that they went to Kirk Charlie Kirk's events.
That's not Israeli propagandist.
That's what I'm talking about.
Alexander, that's what I'm talking about.
Charlie was coming round.
He was no longer willing to just be a propagandist for Israel.
He was giving it up.
He was turning.
Look, Alexander, I think you're great.
I think you're great.
I got a whole lot of callers.
Let's let it make a final thought.
Israelis with all the power they have would kill, would kill a little guy like him?
Doesn't make sense at all to me.
Okay, I get it, Alexander.
It doesn't.
It doesn't make sense to you.
Well, there are a lot of things that don't make sense to people that are nevertheless true.
So I'm glad you called.
Who we got next?
We got Dan in Washington.
Go ahead, Dan.
Join the conversation.
Dan, are you there?
Go ahead.
Oh, we lost Dan, too.
That's uh, we got Ed in Florida zone right now.
Okay, we got Ed.
Go ahead, Ed.
Join us.
Ed, are you in Florida or Arizona?
Florida.
I'm in Florida, Jim.
Yeah, go ahead, Ed.
Go ahead.
We just became an open carry state a few days ago, Jim.
So I'm glad that I.
Okay.
Anyway, Jim, I'm sure you remember Commander Lincoln Rockwell.
Yeah.
Correct?
Yes.
He was doing the same thing that Charlie Kirk did.
He would go to the colleges, the universities, and challenge people's views on whether it was Nazism or just white nationalism or Zionism.
And he wound up the same way assassinated.
And, you know, it seems those people who do not buy the Zionist agenda wind up dead.
I can't think of one person who actually, besides Charlie Kirk, who's coming around.
Can you hear me?
I can.
Keep going.
Hello.
Okay, so I'm just wondering what we can do as conservative Republicans.
And we don't have a voice anymore, Jim.
We really don't have one.
Well, Dan, begin by looking at the research I've done to sort out what really happened in Utah.
He faked his death.
I hate to tell you, Ed, but he faked his death.
He had a blood packet on his back.
He had a little hose right his neck.
There's no blood on his shoes.
There should have been blood all over the place.
They carried him to the SUV.
No blood whatsoever, no trail.
It was fake.
It was staged.
I guarantee you 100% it was staged.
Now, I don't blame him.
I mean, Alexander said, oh, they could take it out in a second.
Yeah, that's about the flight time of the bullet would have been less than a second.
They could have easily killed him.
Charlie knew it.
I think his wife probably persuaded him not to be the courageous guy and let him whack him.
That if he faked his death, they'd be better off.
And that's what happened.
But Ed, we got a problem.
We got to get rid of absentee ballots, mail-in ballots.
We got to get rid of mail-in ballots.
We got to get rid of the Smith-Mudd Act.
We got to not allow dual citizens into decision-making or policy-shaping positions in government.
We got to get AIPAC to be registered as a foreign agent.
Those are four practical things we could do, Ed, that would make a huge difference.
And I like your call.
Go ahead.
A final thought, Ed.
I don't know what's happening with our calls, Mike.
Have we got Robert in L Robert in Illinois, Robert in Illinois?
Bring in Robert.
Yeah, can you hear me, Jim?
Yes, I can.
Go ahead.
All right, very good.
Very good.
A lot of argumenters with people.
Yes, you gotta, this is a this Charlie Kirk is a total rabbit hole.
You know, this is why he, hey, it's 24 years later.
Let's get to another rabbit hole, just like we did 24 years ago.
You know, September 10th, Jude comes out and says we're $2.3 trillion missing.
And then, of course, the next day, you have September 11th and all this.
And then we have 24 years of conspiracy theorists trying to be the greatest detectives of our time.
So now you do the same thing here with Charlie Kirk.
But here's an issue.
You keep suggesting, and it's fine.
It's an alternative, it's an option.
It's a possibility that they faked his death because of threats and this and that and the other.
But the guy being 31 years old and whatnot, man, taking your death at this young age, where on earth are you going to go unless you have plans on winning the war and coming out later?
It'll only be temporary.
What I'm kind of inclined to think, which is a possibility, not saying it did because we have no proof one way or the other.
All we have proof of is that this event is very fishy and we have all sorts of evidence that points towards that it was another staged event for new numerous reasons, which you recited multiple times.
But very well be could Charlie could have died already.
Charlie could have already been killed and/or died in his sleep for all we know.
That's a possibility.
But let's not just let his death go in vain.
Let's make hay with it.
And then they decide to stage this event.
And what and Utah was the very first stop on his next season, his next tour.
Very first stop, 10 minutes in, done and over.
Don't have to worry about anything else.
They got it done.
It's over.
Clean up the mess.
And now they got all sorts of propaganda to come from it.
They could pass new laws.
They get talking points.
All this stuff comes out of it.
So, but very well, he could have, as far as we know, died of food poisoning, died in his sleep.
They could have killed him already.
Who knows?
And it was quiet.
But no, let's not let something this great, this person, this visible person, let's not let this go to waste.
Let's make a thing out of it and then create this whole motion.
That's the possibility.
I'm just throwing it out there.
Well, there are all kinds of possibilities, Robert, but obviously you haven't looked at the work I have done on this.
I've spent 30 years sorting out fabricated evidence from real evidence.
I'm an expert at this, Robert.
And I'm telling you, we have nailed this.
He had a blood packet on his back.
He had a little spout by his neck.
We got photographs of it for crying out loud.
We don't have any of the blood that should have been there had it been real.
It's not even on his tennis shoes, which are just glistening white.
There's no blood in the back of the wall.
I'm on that side.
I believe, you know what?
It's taking days of going through all the evidence.
I'm in the belief that the whole event is fake.
Whatever happened there was entirely fake.
Nobody died at Utah.
Okay, not Charlie Kirk.
Whatever was there could have been a Charlie Kirk double, Charlie Kirk mask.
It could have been.
Yeah.
I'm just saying very well.
It could have been the real, it could have been the real Charlie Kirk.
There are other Charlie, there are, Jim.
I promise you this.
There are other Charlie Kirk lookalikes out there that they put out in the public.
Okay.
I promise you this.
Other people have gone and viewed the, you know, the skull structure, the gun line, the teeth, this, that.
There are other Charlie Kirk used in the past.
Good.
Now, here's the thing.
I don't know if you covered this.
I heard this and I can't, I don't have any receipts for it, but allegedly, the Kirk family sold their home in Arizona in January.
I don't.
Oh, you mean Charlie's own home, that palatial $1.6 million estate?
It was gorgeous.
It was gorgeous.
Well, alleged while whatever home they had in Arizona, Scottsdale, Arizona, allegedly it was sold.
That's interesting.
I like that.
I like that.
You're bringing up new evidence and alternative hypotheses.
That's what science thrives on.
So, Robert, I like this.
I like this.
Let's see if we can dig in a little deeper.
I'm convinced it was a real Charlie, but if you're right, if there are all these body-double Charlies of which I've been unaware, that obviously needs to figure in.
If he'd already sold his home, that's significant.
I'd like to get verification and know more.
I like it, Robert.
I like it.
That's good.
I welcome everything you're saying now.
I get it.
I get it.
Go ahead.
All right.
Hey, Jim, I'm going to let you go here in a second.
I just got to ask, I'm going to be doing six hours tonight on Studio A on Revolution Raiders, Chicago Brew.
So I'll be doing six hours tonight, but I have the 9 o'clock central open if you want to come on and present.
Oh, that's very nice, Robert.
I've got a course I'm doing on critical thinking and conspiracy theories that runs from like 8 to 10.
Tonight, I've got the third class, but I really welcome your invitation, Robert.
Let's find another time.
But it's on Wednesdays.
Well, I have so from 8, so from 8 o'clock, so I have high noon at 5 p.m., 5 to 7.
You can come on the first hour if you want.
I got to do an interview with Bill Benny and Catherine Horton in the meanwhile, Robert.
Look, let's figure it out.
Send me an email or something.
We'll figure it out.
I'd love to come on your show.
I'd love to.
Love to.
We'll do it.
Thank you for the call.
Eugene.
Yeah.
Eugene in Ohio.
Eugene in Ohio.
Go for it, Eugene.
Yeah, hi, Jim.
I want to ask you about this boycott investment stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where they're making all these, they're making all these anti-BDS laws.
Yeah.
Isn't that unconstitutional?
Isn't that unconstitutional, Jim?
And let's say I want to walk around downtown here in Columbus, Ohio, with a big banner and it's saying, boycott Israel and all Israel he made good.
And the cops come up and they arrest me for doing that.
Because I think they're these anti-BDS.
Would that be an opportunity for me to challenge these laws under our First Amendment rights and sue these bastards?
Not just me, but anybody.
I'm just using that as an example, Jim.
What exactly were you going to use as a precipitating event?
What was going to be the occasion to challenge them?
How are you going to do it?
That making anti-BDS laws are against our First Amendment under the Constitution.
I agree with that.
I think they ought to be challenged in court.
You just find the right, you got to find the right plaintiff to bring the suit, but they're going to be struck down eventually.
I'm sure you're right about that, Eugene.
They're going to be struck down.
It's just going to take a while.
It's going to take a while to work through the courts.
And I despise that the American government, which is supposed to be American versus acting for Israel everywhere.
This is just outrageous.
So you're absolutely right to be incensed about it.
So am I.
I got one more caller.
Been waiting around, so Eugene.
I thank you for the call.
Call again, call again.
You got it.
Tom, Tom, sorry, keeping you waiting.
Go ahead, Tom.
Jim, yeah, I'm just waiting.
I'm just wondering, yeah, how you doing, Dave?
I'm just wondering if the real Donald Trump's in Windsor Castle right now.
Charles, not the real Trump, I think.
I don't know.
Okay, so this is called in to be sarcastic.
No, Jim, no, no.
Now, listen here.
I am, I'm not being sarcastic.
What I wanted to tell you is I got it wrong yesterday.
When I told you were 700,000 people in London marching, I was way off on that figure.
It was two and a half million.
Yeah.
I just saw the figures, but that's the figure.
Yeah.
Two and a half million.
That's 700,000.
Well, you know, I misunderstood.
Tom, you're right.
I misunderstood your original.
Trump actually is in London, isn't he?
He is in the UK.
Yeah.
Right now.
Yeah.
I've been there.
Yep.
And that's what I'm saying.
And what I'm saying is I was wrong about the numbers.
When it was a March 8.
Now it was 2.5 million reports in London.
I saw it on five different channels.
Yeah, I've heard the number as high as three, but yeah, you're right, Tom.
You're right.
You're absolutely right.
Yeah, it's going to be a small closer.
Maybe a two and a half to three million.
That's right.
My buddy told me, call me back and call me.
Yeah.
So I was way off.
I was way off the number.
And I can tell you, Jim, listen, I don't know what Charlie Kirk is better or what he is, but whatever happens, I don't care what it is.
Yes.
Tom, that's my point.
It's a great.
Tom, you're wonderful.
You're absolutely spot on.
Thank you for the call.
Thank you for the call.
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