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I need someone.
When I was young, so much younger than today.
I never needed anybody's help in any way.
Now, but now these days are gone, I'm not so selfish.
Now I'll find a gentleman and open up the door.
Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
And I do appreciate you being around.
Help me get my feet back on the ground.
Won't you please, please help me?
This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Raw DL Ride here in Revolution Radio Studio B this first day of September 2025, Labor Day.
Happy Labor Day, joined today by Joels and my co-host during the first hour, two special guests during this Saracan.
We break with some totally unexpected developmentsment, Trump turns on Operation Warm Speed, demands Big Pharma release hidden extraordinary COVID shot data.
President Donald J. Trump has finally signaled a reversal on Operation Warm Speed in a new statement.
He revealed Pfizer and other drug makers showed him extraordinary internal numbers on the COVID products, yet never released them to the public.
Trump is now demanding that Big Pharma hand over the hidden data immediately to the CDC and the American people.
Here is his statement.
It is very important that the drug companies justify the success of their various COVID drugs.
Many people think they are a miracle that saved millions of lives.
Others disagree.
With CDC being ripped apart over this question, I want the answer and I want it now.
I've been shown information from Pfizer and others as extraordinary, but they never seem to show those results to the public.
Why not?
They go off to the next hunt and let everyone rip themselves apart, including Bobby Kennedy Jr. and CDC.
trying to figure out the success or failure of the drug company's COVID work.
They show me great numbers and results, but they don't seem to be showing them to many others.
I want them to show them now to CDC and the public and clear up this mess one way or the other.
I hope Operation Ormsy was brilliant.
As many say, if not, we all want to know about it and why.
Thank you for your attention to this important matter, President DJT.
Now, Joe, that's ambiguous.
Pfizer may be showing him phony numbers to convince him it was a great success.
What's your take?
Meanwhile, he had a three hour close session with Billy Gates yesterday.
So that's got to make you wonder why in the hell are you spending time with that monster?
And these people have convinced themselves that mRNA, which is gene splicing, which once it's put into your body, it's not a vaccine, it's quote a therapy.
And it goes into your genes and modifies your genes in ways that they can't even predict.
And all of these things, side effects, have been discovered in the ninety pages of side effects that they listed when they first applied for their emergency use authorization.
And Bobby Kennedy's been all over this.
And he's getting pushback from a group called Biotechnology Innovation Organization.
And they're lobbying among all of the pharmaceutical companies to get Bobby removed as HHS because he's starting to do a little bit of effective job.
So I don't know, with Trump, he's all over the map.
He never know where he is from one day to the next.
It's like he's a peace president, but he's got seven wars that he's conducting simultaneously.
You know, it's like I tried to support the guy I did back in 2016 and I attended three of his MAGA rallies in person.
And he's charming and magnetic in a crowd situation and he's very mesmerizing, but by the same token, he's a messionic, a megalomaniac and that part of him I don't enjoy at all very very astute description meanwhile we have a rather startling report from international business times is Trump dead.
JD Vance says he's ready to stand by with his president if something terrible happens.
After days without public appearances from Donald Trump, rumors of his death surge.
Vice President JD Vance now reassures Americans.
The president is alive, working tirelessly, and he, Vance, is prepared if the unthinkable happens.
Three days of silence, no rallies, no late-night phone calls, no fiery stage appearances.
For a politician as omnit president as Donald Trump, the cap was enough to send social media into overdrive.
Hashtags like hashtag Trump is dead trended worldwide.
fueled by speculation over his health and stamina.
In a world where the former reality TV star thrives on visibility, his sudden absence proved irresistible to conspiracy theorists.
Was he hiding an illness?
Was the White House covering something up?
Or as the darkest corners of the internet suggests, had the most recognizable man in American politics quietly passed away, Vance steps into the spotlight.
The chatter around Trump's health has provided an unusual spotlight with his vice president JD Vance.
In an interview with USA Today, Vance was candid.
Yes, the job carries risks.
And yes, he prepared if, God forbid, something terrible were to happen.
Joe, what do you make of this?
Well, actually, he disappeared from news conferences for six days, and then he ended up on his golf course on Sunday.
That's when they said, well, he's out playing golf, so everything's okay.
Who knows?
I've seen photos where his ankles are supposedly swollen, but he's got socks on.
So who knows?
And I've seen pictures where he had dark bruises on his, like liver spots on the back of his wrist.
So who knows?
But the guy drinks nothing but diet soda and aspartin is a known toxin and cause of a whole bunch of different diseases.
And he's obviously overweight and he's obviously in his nearing eighty years old.
So to have him be in the same condition that Joe Biden is in is certainly believable, but I don't believe he's dead.
Well, I've wondered who in the world is JD Vance who seemed to come out of nowhere and assume the vice presidency we know is supported by beater thiel which is not a good sign here's nick fuentes talking about jd vance let's see what nick has to say a few years ago and for those that don't know david from is your prototypical liberal jewish neocon republican
so david from writes an article about jd vance uh i think this was last year a couple years ago was in the atlantic and it turns out that vance was writing for from in 2011.
When JD Vance was in his mid-20s, after he left the Marines, before he went to Yale Law School, Vance was writing for from and he was writing among other things in defense of affirmative action, writing in defense of the war in Iraq.
He was a neocon.
He wrote six articles for from in 2011, 15 years ago when he was my age at this very early stage, before Vance went to law school, before he wrote Hillbilly Elegy, before he's anybody.
David From writes.
that everybody on his team believes that Vance will play an important role in national politics as the leader of moderate conservatism, that Vance would recapture the GOP from the Tea Party and from the populists for the moderates.
You have to wonder, what would make someone like David Fromm, a Jewish neocon, believe that a 25 year old veteran who was really a journalist in the Marines didn't even see combat?
What would make him think that this obscure blogger would play a national role in politics leading moderate conservatism.
His articles were that good, but From says he tells us what makes him believe that.
He says that JD Vance's superpower is his credibility and his credibility comes from his personal narrative.
What's his personal narrative?
Hillbilly elegy, that he's got this story about being from the Rust Belt and emerging from strife.
So he's a 25, 26 year old.
15-year-old veteran who didn't even see combat.
Not like he's a war hero, not like he's some high ranking guy.
He wrote PR articles.
He's some obscure blogger, and they say this guy's going to be a national figure in moderate conservatism because his superpower is his credibility.
Now, what does credibility mean?
It means believability.
Credible means believable.
What does credibility mean in that context?
It means that Vance would have credibility, believability for white Rubes, for white GOP voters.
He would have credibility, believability, relatability because of his story that these middle American radicals that Sam Francis describes the white working class would believe him as he delivered the GOP from the Tea Party to moderate conservatism to a socially inclusive, neocon, environmentally friendly version of conservatism.
And let's not forget as late as 2017, Vance loved Barack Obama.
So this is a pro Obama, pro Iraq war, pro affirmative action.
Pro transgender moderate conservative, mentored by a neocon.
And the neocon says, this guy is going to save the GOP from the Tea Party because the Rubes will believe him.
You go through his life story and you realize that everything about him is fake.
His time in the military fake.
Look up his role in the Marines.
He was a correspondent, a combat correspondent, which means he wrote press releases for the military.
So he's a fake Marine.
He goes to Yale Law School.
He meets Peter Thiel, his first job in tech.
It's a biotech firm.
The CEO says he only hired Vance as a favor to Peter Thiel.
That was his first job.
How does a law school graduate go to work for a biotech firm?
Well, the guy that hired him tells us he hired him as a favor to Thiel.
Then Vance works at a series of venture capital firms.
First, he works for Thiel for about seven months while he drops his book.
Then he starts his own venture capital firm with money from Peter Thiel, three firms in five years.
When he was at Peter Thiel's firm, his colleagues say they never saw him in the office.
Inexplicably, he raises over one hundred twenty million dollars in his firm, mostly from Peter Thiel, Mark Andreessen, and others.
So he's a fake venture capitalist.
Then, even though he opposed Trump from the very beginning, I'm a never Trump guy.
I never liked Peter Thiel organizes a meeting with Vance and Trump in twenty twenty one to smooth things over.
And then in twenty twenty one, Vance declares his candidacy for Senate of Ohio.
Peter Thiel makes the biggest contribution of any individual donor in a Senate race in American history of 15 million dollars.
Thiel with his connections secures Trump's endorsement and Vance becomes a senator.
So he's a fake Marine, he's a fake venture capitalist, and then he's a fake MAGA senator.
Now he's a vice president of the United States.
Even his name is fake.
He didn't go by Vance until he was thirty years old.
Vance was the name of his Mima, and he changed his name to Vance just a few years before he published his book.
which had been in the works for as much time about his Meemaw, his story that gives him the credibility for thirty years.
He was JD Hamill and went by other names.
He's a complete artifice that was created by neocons and defense contractors.
There's nothing organic about it.
Nobody organically gets hired at Mithril Capital and launches a book that for some reason just blows up.
It's not organic to get $15 million to run for Senate from a CIA contractor that's not organic.
They're going to start pushing Vance for president 2028.
Vance for president 2028, that is what they're going with.
And that's why you see across the board all this Vance shilling.
Vance is funny.
Vance is like Jim Halpert from the office.
Vance made that face.
Vance, they're pushing it so hard.
And you know what's so funny?
Vance for president was born a week after Trump's inauguration in 2017 in that same article with David Fromm.
Fromm says that there was a meeting a week after.
Trump's inauguration in Washington, DC, Vance called all the never Trumpers, including from who voted for Hillary Clinton, to plan out a future Vance for President campaign in the late 2020s or early 2030s.
And here we are, his conspicuous ascendancy from fake venture capitalist to US Senator and then in two years from US Senator to Vice President and in four years to Front Runner for President of the United States.
Well, Joe, I don't know how you feel about that, but I find that pretty damn disturbing.
I think he's made a hell of a case that Vance is a complete phony, that he's an artificial construct, even changing his name.
I've always thought there was something peculiar about the guy, but I've never quite been able to put my finger on it.
Your thoughts.
Yeah, well, Nick Flint is correct on a whole bunch of stuff along with Whitney Webb.
Yeah, Peter Thiel was early funders of Facebook, so he made a ton of money there.
Then he was one of the founders of PayPal, and now he's working with Palantir that's getting a whole bunch of contracts from the government.
Vance appears to be a World Economic Forum young global leader groomed by the same people.
And they have a great way of writing narratives.
I saw Ted Cruz when he was running for his first elected office as senator from Texas.
And I went to three different tea party meetings where he was walking around telling his story about how he grew up reading the Bible by candlelight in a log cabin in Canada.
Yeah, his father was a Cuban citizen, never got American citizenship, married a Canadian, he was born in Canada.
And he goes to Harvard and gets a law degree.
and he's an expert in constitutional law and he runs for president when it's a violation of the constitution for you not to be an American, uh, natural born citizen.
He got American naturalized in 19 and when he was 18 years old and his dad got American naturalization when he started running for Senate.
So give me a break.
The whole damn set, uh, setup is completely rigged.
And the only thing I can say about Vance is that he delivered an astounding address to the European leaders that was absolutely great.
I mean, he just dressed them down completely.
I don't know who wrote his speech for him and if it's anything that he actually believes, But that particular speech by Vance was one of the best that I've heard this whole year.
Well, that's a very positive development, Joe.
But I'm worried we're going to get the guy in there and he's going to turn just as much as Trump has from the platform candidate we all admired to the acting president we all despise.
It's really stunning.
And just as an illustration of Trump's incompetence in foreign policy or his role as a tool of the Ghana's and mafia, U.S. land arms.
and plan to arm Ukraine with thousands of long-range cruise missiles.
The Trump administration announced it approved an eight hundred and twenty-five million weapon deal that will arm Ukraine with thousands of extended range attack munitions, air launch missiles, which can hit targets up to two hundred and eighty miles away, a significantly further range than older missiles the US has sent into the proxy war.
The Bentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency said the deal will provide Ukraine with three thousand three hundred million.
3,350 RM missiles, 3,350 extended global positioning system, inertial navigational systems, and other related equipment.
Arms sale will be funded in part by foreign military financing, a state-of-arm program that provides foreign governments with money to buy U.S.-made weapons.
Other funding for the deal will come from Denmark, the Netherlands, and Norway.
Joe, I thought we weren't going to give any more weapons to Ukraine.
JD Vance himself.
Devans himself made that announcement.
Well, there you go.
That's flip-flop Donnie.
Yeah.
And the thing that's really crazy is that these are air-launched cruise missiles and Ukraine doesn't have probably a dozen pilots and a dozen flyable aircraft that can even carry those up and utilize them.
And when they do try to use them, the Russians are going to be able to shoot them down in absolutely no time and they'll be able to deflect them.
Interesting thing, Ursula Vandalier was flying over Bulgaria in her private jet and the Russians turned off her GPS navigation so they had to fly using Jeppesen flight charts and radio beacons in order to get the plane back on the ground.
So bottom line is Russia has got complete dominance over everything that goes on in Ukraine at this point.
They've got good intel.
They've been following the whole thing and they're systematically pulling all of the cards to make the whole thing fall down.
So I wouldn't expect the Ziolinsky regime to last another two months.
uh if that long and uh it looks like the whole thing is fixing to cave in on them so it doesn't really matter these missiles by the way were just field tested like a year ago and they're not even in full-scale production at this point.
So, you know, it's just another empty promise to make the people in Europe think that we've got their back when in fact nobody's got their back.
A top Ukrainian Nazi politician has been shot dead.
Antonio Peruvi, a former Ukrainian parliament speaker, Once praised Adolf Hitler as the greatest man who practiced direct democracy has been assassinated and lived.
Here you see the body on the ground.
Puby once led Ukraine parliament 2016-19 and earlier oversaw national security in the country's 2024 revolution.
That, of course, was the coup engineer by Victoria Nuland.
He was a central player in Ukraine's modern politics, known for helping organize protests that pushed the country toward Europe and away from Moscow.
In a photo below, a Ukrainian Nazi party, Puby is present near the Ukraine Hotel located opposite Maiden where during the 2014 coup, unknown snipers were carrying out weapons, not carrying out weapons, but actually assassinating protesters.
He was the commandant of Medan in 2013-2014, former SBU chief Yekemenko.
State shots were fired at police and protesters on Maiden from the Philharmonic building, for which Paribi was responsible.
Not only was Warby one of the direct organizers of the Odessa massacre, but even earlier, during the Maiden riots, he was seen transferring rifles and coordinating militants in the building from which the infamous 20 February snipers began firing.
Now, apparently he was shot eight times.
The assailant, I guess, was here on a motorcycle.
Suspicion, multiplicity of speculations here.
your thoughts joe when that maiden stuff happened veteran may had a bunch of articles about They said that the snipers were brought in from Georgia and that the snipers were shooting police on one side and protesters on the other, and Vicki Nuland was walking around passing out cookies.
So that's exactly what's going on.
If you look up wiki slash color underlying revolutions, the United States has conducted over a dozen coups in Eastern Europe since 2002, including the Orange Revolution in Ukraine in 2004 and the Maidan in 2014, both times to overthrow populist governments in those countries.
And we're doing the same thing worldwide.
If you read War is a Racket by Smidley Butler, we overthrew governments throughout Latin America and we created the term banana republic to cover what we were doing because it was all being done for United Fruit Company.
And just like he said, we're nothing but a mercenary force for these global monopolists that have hijacked our entire country and are destroying our constitution and our way of life.
Further notes, many in Ukraine are calling the shooter a hero.
The general feeling in Ukraine right now has been summed up by one citizen who said, Mandarite Nazis do not get to have fun.
rocking and live up while the deaths and conflict they created happen in Donetsk.
Others offer a different opinion saying it's likely that Zelensky actually killed him to remove potential competition during elections.
I'd say those are equally plausible, Joe.
Your opinion?
Yes, I've seen both of those and I agree that either one of them is possible.
Well, it's more about him, but we know enough.
Meanwhile, new battlefield map reveals Russian massive overnight assault targeting Kiev, Dnipro, Cherkasy and Odessa.
A new battlefield map reveals the intensity of Russia's overnight assault.
Waves of missiles and sheahead drones launched from multiple directions toward the Ukraine sky, converging on Kiev and other major cities.
I'll be right back with Joe Olson.
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Here's a map showing you a close-up of all these strikes.
Very impressive, Zelensky.
We have at least eight dead, including a child from tonight's Russian strike, but the Russians are not targeting children, women, or civilians, unlike the Israelis, where they pick off little kids for sports.
That's how the IDF passes its copious free time.
Joe, your thoughts?
Yeah, the Russians have an absolutely spotless record as far as civilian casualties.
based on the number of targets that they hit.
They almost always hit at night time so that buildings are unoccupied.
even if it's military staff that are in there that could legitimately be targeted, they try to minimize the amount of collateral damage and they've done a remarkable job of that as compared to Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not remotely impressed with Zielinsky.
What a pathetic excuse.
He's a Jewish puppet put in place by Jewish oligarchs that took over Ukraine.
the same time they took over all of the industry in Russia back in 1992.
And that's exactly what Putin had to fight until he was managed to get privatization of gas.
of Gazprom and then eventually, I'll see the other state, got it written here somewhere.
Anyhow, the two state-owned currently state-owned energy industries that putin liberated in 1999 are the ones that are actually running the economy in that country at this point by the way they're like producing six percent of the world's consumption of oil currently Meanwhile,
two Russian missiles hit a British council previously accused of spying are like this.
this that they're not letting the Brits who appear to have played a far larger role in all these despicable activities than the world has been made aware off the hook.
Russia hit British Cultural Office and accused of spying with two precision missile strikes EU delegation reports the Yemen Regional Headquarters of UK government body That promotes British culture abroad.
That means it's a center for MI6.
It's a spy central.
Has been severely damaged by two missiles that struck the same location seconds apart in an apparent precision attack.
Let me say, that's a technique to hit deep underground facilities.
The first does preliminary damage and the second digs far deeper.
The British Council, a 90-year-old UK government-owned organization that falls under the aegis of the Foreign Office, but claims to be politically neutral.
and interested only in promoting saw power British culture.
You can believe that if you want.
Encouraging social change abroad, cultural ties in the English language, saw its Ukraine office destroyed on Thursday.
As stated, the strikes overnight were one of the largest Russian air raids on Ukraine of the world to date and unusually also targeted central Kiev.
At least 15 were killed in going including several children and 50 or more injured.
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are within an hour after a wave of nearly 600 drones and 31 missiles were launched.
Joe, your thoughts.
Yeah, Britain has a long history of this.
They were taught by the masters of empire in 49 AD.
Rome invaded Britain.
and they managed to make treaties with certain tribes to keep those tribes on their side and help them fight the other side.
They conquered about a third of England and their capital was in Colchester and that's where a king had two daughters and when he died one of his daughters, Boadica, assumed the throne as queen but Rome says we don't recognize anybody but male leadership and so they went in and she was trying to protest them they went in and raped her teenage daughters in the town square of Colchester all day long and
then that that legion which is five thousand troops marched up to where that Hadrian's wall was because they were still having problems with those pesky Scots and they got ambushed on the way back killed all five thousand of those Roman soldiers.
Botica formed an army that had about seventy thousand troops, but they had the troops all had followers.
So there was a group of about two hundred fifty thousand that marched on Lundarium, which was London at that time.
And then they marched west.
They got caught in an open field with a...
So seven thousand five hundred Romans against seventy thousand Brits.
But the Brits charged with two horse chariots and the Romans had a thing called a crossbow scorpion that could shoot a dozen steel-tipped wooden darts through a horse's body at 100 yards with high accuracy.
And when you shoot one horse with a chariot, next thing you know, you've got a pile tangle up.
Bottom line is they killed 70,000 brits in one day and they marched back into londarium and the brits never rose up against the Romans again they were there when the Romans collapsed in uh in 450 a.d.
And so bottom line is they had 400 years of instruction of how to operate as a slave state and then how the slave state was managed by a ruling class.
And that's what set up their empire for the next 500 years that followed starting about 1500.
Joe, that was wonderful.
What a terrific commentary.
Meanwhile, Starmer out on X. Something has snapped in the British, but it appears to have been taken down.
Meanwhile, political.
EU plans to transfer 200 billion euros from frozen Russian assets to Ukraine.
They just won't learn, Joe.
The Europeans need to be all in for war with Russia.
Your thoughts.
Yeah, well there's a great website called Tales of American Empire and they've got a series of three dozen 15, 20 minute long videos called the Anglo-American War on Russia.
And it's just absolutely stunning.
All well referenced has a lot of video archives.
They're very entertaining to watch and you can watch each one of them independently.
But you would not believe this stuff.
Europe has had a constant hard-on for Russia because it's the largest country in the whole world.
It's like over 11% of the world's land mass, and it's got an enormous amount of natural resources.
And they've always been able to go in and balkanize it the same way they do other territories and be able to asset strip it the same way they did with the Bolshevik Revolution and the same way they did with Operation Hammer when the fall of the Berlin Wall happened.
And that's when they passed $330 million worth of bonds so they could go in and get...
give selected oligarchs inside Russia a million dollar seed money and then they could turn around and go, well, I've got a million dollars and I can buy all of these Russian assets for 20 or 50 million and they got Western loans for the Russian oligarchs to go in and the oil.
company that I couldn't remember is Rosneft, ROSNEFT.
And that was both of those, them and Gazprom were both seized in the early in the mid-90s.
And then they offered public IPOs to Russian citizens only.
And so those are actually state owned, but also owned by the Russian people.
So they benefit from having their own resources feeding their own country.
So bottom line is they're better at capitalism than we are.
We have a completely monopolistic system which is nowhere near capitalism and that's why our system is failing on every front great point here we have colonel McGregor talking about harvest host is a unique what's going on here in terms of the war with Russia none of it is good by colonel Douglas McGregor a combat veteran and former advisor to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and
which all of you can see in person at the national conversation in Dallas together with Judge Napolitano and Natalie Brenell on the 4th of October.
So I will leave information in the description.
So welcome back, Colonel.
I hope, yeah, all is well.
Good to talk with you, Glenn.
So when Trump took office, he was going to, as we all know, end the Ukraine war in 24 hours.
Then he extended it.
Again, I think he genuinely wants it to end.
But the whole premise of walking away from this appears to have changed.
And over the last few days or weeks, we see now that Trump is putting pressure on India and others to stop trading with Russia.
In a tweet, he suggested.
that Ukraine must go on the offensive if it wants to win, and also there's now reports of the US possibly sending thousands of ERAM long range missiles.
I'm not sure what you make of this turn of events.
Well, I think it's vintage Trump.
Trump is someone with a machine gun firing in all conceivable directions.
And what he really wants or thinks changes from day to day.
He's very impulsive.
There is no coherent strategic framework for anything.
And there is absolutely no understanding whatsoever of Russia or Ukraine or Eastern Europe.
It's all very foreign to him.
So I don't think we can reach any hard conclusions about what he means.
Let's look at what he wants to do.
That's what's important.
First of all, I think he decided after the Alaska Summit that there was really nothing he could do to stand up there and bring peace.
to Eastern Europe with the cooperation of President Putin and potentially Zelensky and the Europeans.
I think he understands now that the Europeans have a different agenda from him.
Zelensky has a different agenda and President Putin's position is unchanging.
That's not a problem for President Trump.
He recognizes that that position is not changing.
But he now is frustrated and wishes that he could have staged a wonderful photo opportunity, much like the Alaska event in the future at some peace summit.
That's not going to happen.
Remember, President Trump is about optics.
This is a pure showman.
This is simply the latest episode in the reality TV show called the Trump White House.
And he's not going to get the kind of photo op that he wanted where he could stand in the middle and claim to be peacemaker.
So I think he's kind of walked away from it.
On the other hand, he still is under enormous pressure from the neocons inside the beltway.
And these are the same people that want perpetual war in the Middle East, they want to balkanize Iran, they want to balkanize Russia.
The Russia strategy has failed miserably.
So now, you know, they're telling Trump, well, you've got to keep this going somehow.
You've got to show that Ukraine is on life support.
So give them these cruise missiles.
Now, when will these arrive?
In what numbers?
Will they make any difference?
It's hard to say.
But he published a tweet with a statement saying that the previous administration hadn't done enough to confer capability on Iran or excuse me on Ukraine to really take the offensive.
Of course, that's all nonsense.
And the bottom line is, it doesn't matter what you do if you can pinpricks strikes with cruise missiles all over the place.
It makes absolutely no difference if you're losing the close fight.
We have this thing we call the deep fight and the close fight.
The deep fight involves these long range strike weapons and they're very important.
But if you think that you're going to win the war without a close fight, you've lost your mind.
Eventually, the ground forces have to collide.
Well, they've collided and Ukraine has lost the close fight.
Then he doesn't seem to understand the difference, but we shouldn't be surprised by that.
This is not someone who has a background in military affairs, international relations, diplomacy, none of those things.
This is someone who comes to office as a businessman and sees the world through this lens.
That's why we hear constantly about deal, deal, deal.
But we don't put together deals on the spur of the moment and we don't hammer out deals between two people or three people or four people.
These things in international diplomacy take months and years sometimes.
And then, you know, the ultimate meeting occurs, something is signed and agreed and everybody can live with it and you move on to the next item.
He has no experience with that and that's not the way he thinks.
In many ways, I think President Trump encapsulates one of the essentials of American character, and that is Americans have no patience.
Americans do not do not understand that the world is not a giant microwave oven.
They think in terms of shove it into the microwave oven, give it 30 seconds and out comes something that you can consume.
That's not the nature of the world.
Now that may work in in American politics to some extent, but it doesn't work in international relations.
It doesn't work with military affairs.
So I think he's kind of walked away on one side because he can't extract any personal benefit from this.
He can't be the hero in the story.
But on the other hand, once again, he bends over to try and satisfy or mollify people.
people inside the Beltway who insist, oh, you've got to keep supporting Ukraine.
You've got to keep sending everything to Israel.
You know, we've got to destroy Iran.
We've got to rewrite, redraw the map and so forth.
So he's listening to both groups.
And that's why you get these almost schizophrenic outcomes.
I think that Colonel McGregor is a better grasp of Donald Trump's character and thinking than anyone I've ever encountered.
Joe, your thoughts.
Yeah, I watch Greg McGregor daily when he whenever he's on.
Trump has a number of operational blind spots.
One of them is HR.
He's terrible at picking people because he's got a propensity to pick billionaires because if you're rich, then you must be the smartest people in the room.
So anybody that's a billionaire automatically has more credibility regardless of how they've accumulated their money.
Empires are built on piracy, slavery, usury, tyranny, and perpetual war.
And when Trump was running in 2016, he promised that he was going to release all the information on the 911-911 events.
And we were contacted in.
2018 by Robert David Steele.
Can you turn on the camera?
Oh, yeah, sure that the camera's on.
Go ahead, Joe.
Joey lost you.
There you are.
Yeah, okay, can you see this?
Memorandum number, the President 911, yes, to which I contributed.
False faith, Rick.
Go ahead.
Yeah, 28 authors including James Fetzer and myself.
And we were given instructions by Robert David Steele that Trump will not read anything more than 800 words.
So you couldn't have more than two pages and he wouldn't look at anything that didn't have a picture.
So that's what we were dealing with in order to get useful information.
Some of it was bogus, but out of the 28 authors, I'd give pretty high credibility to at least 20 of them, maybe even a few more than that.
But bottom line is Robert David Steele said he had access to several different cabinet level members that could get that in front of the president.
And if the president ever saw it, he never bothered to read one page of anything that Jim and I had to write along with the other ones that were probably credible.
So bottom line is we never had anything released in his first term.
The other thing is there would have never been a Russiagate if he'd have pardoned Julian Assange in 2017 because there could not have been a Russian hack when it was Seth Rich who was downloading the material, giving it directly to Russiagate.
So bottom line is if Trump would have done the reasonable, honest thing in 2016, he would have never had the problems he had during his first term, and they would have never been able to beat him out of his second term.
So bottom line is he's his own worst enemy because his ego's so big he can't see reality.
Yeah, I think there's a lot to that, Joe.
I think you've got it right, my friend.
me see As I say, the colonel is so damn good.
I'm just terribly impressed.
Meanwhile, Turkey has declared Israel to be a terrorist state, halted all economic and trade with Europe.
This is good, Hal Turner reporting.
Turkey's Foreign Minister Hakan Fidhan announced during a special session of the Turkish Grand National Assembly.
that Turkey is completely severing all economic and trade relations with Israel.
That includes halting all imports and exports, banning Turkish ships from entering Israeli ports and closing Turkish airspace to Israeli aircraft.
Fidan emphasized that these measures are a direct response to Israel's ongoing military operation in Gaza, which he described as genocide and the use of hunger as a weapon, disregarding fundamental human values.
It should not be ruled out that Turkey and Israel will sooner or later end up in armed conflict against one another.
Joe, your thoughts?
I welcome this development.
And getting back to Donald Trump, he's got a current approval rating of 37% and a disapproval rating of 55%.
That's upside down in anybody's book.
There's a great website called Reason.
And then the number two, Resist.
So it's Reason to Resist by Dmitry Lascaris.
He said there's over 60,000.
Israelis who've immigrated into Cyprus in the last three or four years and they're buying up absolutely all of the property.
They're complete.
They're making complete gated enclaves of nothing but Jewish people and they've started buying along the border between.
between the Turkish northern Cyprus and the rest of Cyprus.
Cyprus was owned by Greece for thousands of years, taken over by the Ottoman Empire.
And then when the Ottoman Empire fell, the Greeks took it back over.
And according to the Turks, the Greeks were being mean to the Turkish Cypriots that were living on the northwest corner of it.
So they are the northeast corner of Cyprus.
So they invaded and it was a NATO country invading another NATO country and nobody did anything about it.
So bottom line is now Israel is trying to say, well, God gave us this 3,000 years ago, so we're going to do the same thing here we did in Gaza.
Absolutely insane.
No wonder Turkey's getting their hackles up because Israel is the worst neighbor anybody could have anywhere in the whole world.
Yes, yes, yes.
IDF's biggest blow to Yemeni rebels, the Houthi Prime Minister, Defense Minister, and other members were killed in a strike by Israel, but they've already been replaced.
Joe, they've already did.
Serious, serious stuff.
Meanwhile, the Yemeni military chief, the new one, vows more escalation after Israel claims.
Chief of the General Staff of the Yemeni armed forces, General Mohammed Abdukham Al Gramari made remarks to the country's official Saba news agency Friday.
The Zionist escalation caused toward Yemen is not a sign of strength, but rather a sign of impotence and failure to achieve its goals over nearly two years, and it will be met with escalation.
The remarks came a day after Israeli estimates alleged the regime might have assassinated an emergency officials, including the Marian Defense Minister Mohammed al-Ataf during airstrikes against the country capital Sinai.
Yes, Joe, I believe there was such a strike.
I believe it was successful.
But the Houthis who show extraordinary resilience are going to retaliate even more strongly against Israel as a consequence.
Your thoughts?
Well, Houthis only occupy the northern portion of Yemen.
And that's the civilian government for the whole country of Yemen.
And that's the only one that Israel has any real intellect on because they meet pretty much in public and they've got public office buildings and so on.
And so they killed someone who is absolutely an innocent leader of a country that has a faction in the country, but they haven't touched anything to do with the Houthi's real capabilities.
And so they recently, like within the last couple of months, have developed multiple warhead missiles where they can hit three different targets and their accuracy is pretty remarkable.
So bottom line, expect there to be more attacks from them.
At the same time, Israel's attacking Hezbollah in Lebanon and wanting to completely disarm them.
And they're attacking all kinds of forces that are operating inside Syria.
So they're alienating everybody.
They've threatened to take over both banks of the Jordan River and take a good portion of our real estate from Jordan.
And then they've also threatened to take the Suez Canal.
So they're rattling their swords in a way that's going to make the end of Israel be the most glorious thing that happened in this entire century.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, I do not believe this is going to play out well for Israel in the end, but they're sure making the most of it, killing as many as.
many as they can, doing everything to expand the Greater Israel Project.
Meanwhile, Venezuela and Turkey have activated direct maritime route to boost bilateral trade.
That's Venezuela and Turkey.
We're sending a motela down to Venezuela, but Joe, that's not going to play out now.
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Well, my first guest today is Monique Lucans, whom I've known for a decade or more.
She's a teacher in Los Angeles Unified School District.
She's an actress.
Monique, it's a pleasure to have you back with me today.
And Joe Olson, co host, is here.
Tell us what you'd like to address.
And in many ways, this is your opportunity to co host as it were.
Go right ahead, Bodeep.
I am so happy to join you, Dr. Fetzer and Joe.
I'm glad to be back with you as well.
I did miss you.
What did you say?
You just muted out on me.
Oh, I said I was wondering if you remembered me.
Yeah, well, you.
Of course I remember you.
With Fetzer.
Actually, almost for about a year, I believe.
Yes.
Actually, I joined in 2021, but it seems like it was a decade ago.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So I do work for that school district and well, I'm trying to get a religious exemption.
I won't get into that part.
Maybe a little later.
Maybe.
But I'm going to speak today about a call that I'm planning to make tomorrow.
And I'm opening this up to the whole audience.
If you feel the same way, maybe there are some vegans.
Now I know right away they're like, I'm not a vegan.
She's a liberal.
We'll get into that.
But we'll be talking to a California senator who actually told me about ten years ago.
that he is a vegan.
Now he did push for the jab, so that is unvegan.
So I don't know where he was coming from on that part, but unfortunately, a lot of people who called themselves vegan actually did agree with the unvegan jab, which contained animals and humans.
By the way, I have Michael McAmwell.
He's with me.
Longtime vegan friends.
Why don't you introduce yourself to.
We're going to make a video, Michael.
Come on.
You're welcome to turn on your camera.
Join us.
All right.
Hello, hello, welcome.
Thanks.
Glad to be here.
Good morning.
So, Michael and I had a lot of spiritual conversations when we first met each other online.
We were both vegans.
He's he's he's well traveled right from the east coast to the west coast to South America.
I've been everywhere, man.
And he actually feels the pain of plants too.
Remember you told me about the tree, Michael.
Oh yeah.
That was not a fun experience.
He knew that a tree was being chopped down just by his senses.
Yeah, I've told it before I heard the tell tale whirr of the chainsaw.
Gut wrenching to say the least.
Maybe you should be working for the CIA, Michael.
Huh?
My intuition is not that sharp.
I I hear that they do a lot of remote viewing.
Oh yeah.
So anyway, speaking of the senses, when you become a vegan, I do believe that you start getting more sensitive.
Especially if you throw fasting into the mix.
That's I don't do that, but all right.
I myself became a vegan.
I had a spiritual epiphany back in 2001 in New York City.
I don't know, maybe it was like a lot of electricity around, but I was me by myself and I was going through a lot.
There was, I remember, like maybe.
Maybe a month or so prior, there had been fifteen probably undocumented immigrants knifing each other over cocaine.
And one of them, yeah.
And one of them passed away.
And I remember being very shaken up about that.
So, between me like being like always having to make sure no one was following me and whatnot in this not so great area of New York City.
One day I was just standing in the room and I looked at my wrist and I thought, hmm, I'm just a fragile creature eating other fragile creatures.
And I thought of a baby cow and how the calf is plumped up just to be killed.
And I thought, wow, that's manipulative.
We wouldn't do that to a human.
Well, actually some people do, but not like we do with these poor animals.
And so I stopped eating animals at that point for about six months.
Everyone was looking like a nonhuman animal to me.
I remember I saw my mom, she looked like a lion.
I don't know who you would look like, doctor Fetzer.
I'm trying to see.
I don't know, you have maybe like a turtle vibe to me.
Joe, maybe you too, I'm not sure.
I'll have to think about that.
And so, yeah, that was happening to me for about six months where people, they didn't look exactly human to me.
I remember I was 27 at the time.
And two years prior, when I was getting out of bed, my bones started cracking.
I'm sure people can relate to that.
Well, I would have to say within a week of me becoming a vegetarian.
I wasn't vegan at that point.
I never heard of the word vegan.
But having eliminated the meat, my bones stopped cracking.
So that was great.
And then that was 2001.
In 2006, I was over in Los Angeles where I am now and there was one week where I thought hmm you know I wonder what it would be like to eliminate all animal products because they're fatty and unclean you know if you think about the pus coming out of the cow so I thought okay I'll give it a week and
and try not eating any animal products.
Well, serendipity, if you would, or synchronicity would have it that I went to something called World Fest, which is now called VegFest in Van Nuys, California.
And I saw a documentary where a cow couldn't even stand up.
Her udder was so inflamed, I'd say it was about, mm, whatever.
and a half times the size of what it should have been and i thought hmm i'm i guess i'm gonna have to stay vegan because i didn't know that this was happening i equated it with me as a female like what if this creature was me and i i'm gonna have to state that are vegan because I guess traditionally speaking or biologically speaking or both,
I guess we have some more empathy, compassion.
There are men who do too, but you know, traditionally speaking and another thing about males is they think not everyone.
I don't think the younger ones as much.
They think that it's manly to have like the meat, the ribs, the chicken wings, the barbecue.
Um, and you know, there's a lot of them tend to joke with you, and it's actually not funny to me, and we're going to get into that.
Uh, just wrapping it up because I want Michael to give his experience too.
In 2009, I, um, I was acquainted with the raw vegan food movement, which I had never heard of again.
Um, that's because I had gone on like a veggie date site and I met someone who was a seven day adventist and he told me about it.
I ended up going to something called the Raw Spirit Festival.
And I never felt so wonderful on food as I did at that festival.
I remember coming back elated.
And when I was in the latrines, yes, like a marine latrine, Dr. Fetzer, I remember I was like delighted coming out of it, because everything seemed so clean to me.
That's right.
And someone who was famous had served me raw vegan celery soup.
That, what was her name?
She was the one who played Jenny Piccolo.
Cathy Silver something.
Yeah.
And then I found out about organic.
I didn't understand how harmful the pesticides really were on the food.
So I've been trying to do organic close to 100% as possible.
I would say maybe 90 since around 2015.
But first and foremost, I became vegan.
I mean, it came upon me for the animals.
I just wouldn't want to do to me.
It's like the golden rule.
And we'll get into how some people say, no, that's only for humans.
For me, I see an entity, someone who's in pain, someone, not something.
And I see a family, friends, feelings, fear, a face.
And I can't, I can't do that to another being.
just can't and at this point I'm not even I'm not
Because I had read how Jewish people, they, they get sick from smelling it, the, the, those who were in the camps.
And I know how you feel, doctor Fetzer.
There's, I, I get it, but there were some, so far as I know.
My dad's a World War two vet, so he did get shot and he's not here today because of his wound.
Well, he's here.
You're such a dear.
Now the Holocaust was a myth.
I've explored it extensively.
The best book about it is Breaking the Spell by Nicole Erstrom.
where he invited me to write the introduction, which I publish independently under the heading The Holocaust Narrative Politics Trump Science.
You can find it on the government rag and my own blog at Jamesh Fetcher.org.
Joe, today, of course, we're here dealing with vegan philosophy, as you might characterize it, certainly something different, but Labor Day, perhaps appropriate since humans are evolved carnivores.
Becoming vegan is a bit of a challenge from an evolutionary perspec point of view, I'd like your preliminary observation, Joe, before we go to Michael.
Joe.
Yeah, actually, not carnivores, we're omnivores.
And you need a full spectrum of protein in order to be able to properly nourish a human body.
And the thing that bothers me about vegans is a hen is going to lay an egg every day, whether there's a rooster around or not.
And I just never could understand how it bothered a hen for you to eat an infertile egg.
which is a really good source of protein.
Milk for a calf, whether the calf is there or not.
And if the calf's taken away and fed on a separate feeding system.
The cow will continue to produce milk for several years.
I don't see why denying yourself butter and milk and ice cream is any great moral victory.
You don't have to deny yourself anything though.
You're denying them.
Michael, Michael, I'm going to give you the opportunity to speak.
You know, Joe, I mean, for me, I'm such a carnivore.
But we go to Texas Roadhouse, for example.
I order steak and ribs, you know, a rib I'm rare and ribs and a baked potato with the works and usually their chili with the trimmings.
I mean, that's my standard fare at Texas Roadhouse.
It's pretty damn good.
Give us a further thought, Joe, before we turn to Michael.
Go right ahead, Joe.
Yeah, I tried being a vegan back in 1970 when it was a real trendy thing to do.
So me and my girlfriend said, Okay, we're not going to eat any red meat, no fish, no chicken, no nothing for a week.
And the week was started on Monday.
Sunday evening, we were driving around and just couldn't resist pulling into a Burger King and eating a Whopper.
And halfway through the Whopper, I went, Damn, we were supposed to make it one more day and we could be eating a giant steak and we just couldn't stay away from it.
I like Whoppers.
Those are really good burgers.
I tried I tried to be a vegan and I tried to understand what your mindset is on it.
And I know you say you can find all these alternatives for the proteins that are not in a vegan diet, but there actually are not those proteins.
And if you raise a child on a vegan diet, you're actually disrupting the child's normal development.
So I don't really understand the total vegan aspect at all.
Sorry.
Michael, go right ahead.
Michael, join the conversation.
Well, the non-understanding.
is willful, first of all.
There's a deep-rooted stubbornness, a refusal to be open to all viewpoints here that I'm detecting, picking up on.
I can't check it for a crime out loud.
You got four different viewpoints right here, right now, Michael.
Now say your piece.
Go ahead.
Share us with your viewpoint.
Well, once you know better, you typically do better.
That's the homo sapiens thing to do, right?
And it's not about us, veganism.
I mean, yes, we do benefit because we get the whole spectrum of vitamins, minerals, plenty of water, carbohydrates, proteins that we can assimilate that don't leak through our gut lining, causing all sorts of inflammation.
We don't ingest hormones, we don't ingest antibiotics.
So many people who say they don't take pharmaceuticals but eat meat ingest more pharmaceuticals than people who don't because the dead and downed and diseased and dying are chalked full of pharmaceuticals kept pumped you know meant to keep them healthier for longer until they're completely spent and they're just, you know, turned into more chuck for the machine.
I agree with everything that Mike was saying.
Joe, there are people that are raising their.
Oh, and if I may, sorry.
Regardless of your feelings, views, opinions, et cetera on the human Holocaust, if you just look at the definition, the etymological definition, there's another Holocaust that's been going on for weeks.
for a long time and nobody pays attention to it but the vegans.
Exactly.
Namely?
The wholesale death by fire, burning of nonhuman animals for food and faith.
Yep, for sure.
And what does the Bible say?
Your burnt offerings, they are nothing to me.
Stop it.
This sounds to me more like an argument against eating meat than it is for being a vegan.
I mean, that's sort of the meat industry is the dairy industry is the egg industry.
Let's take a look.
I actually made some slides.
I can let you become host.
Great.
Let me see.
Yeah, allow.
Yes.
Go ahead.
What's happening with Michael right now is exactly what actually is going through our heads on usually a daily basis when we are speaking with carnivores.
It's very sensitive.
It might be sensitive to you because you're feeling judged may judged, we're also feeling the pain for these creatures that have absolutely no say.
All right.
So as I was saying, tomorrow and I open it up to everyone, we are planning to have a call with Senator Adam Shipp.
I know, I know the controversy surrounding him.
Well, he's not going to be on the, the Zoom, but his legislative correspondent, Colin, will be on there.
And he's going to.
hear how we want a discussion on making a vegan bill.
What is a vegan bill?
Well, a vegan bill is Monique Lukin's pipe dream to make it illegal to purposely, premeditatively kill animals when there's no need.
And there is.
So no killing and no, may I say it?
No raping.
What's a raping part got to do with it?
Are we talking about bestiality?
Oh, yeah.
The country is chucked full full of it.
So let's get into that.
Gross a little bit on how law is built around religion.
Even if you're an atheist or an agnostic, you must admit that most laws around the world are built around religion, including ours.
If you look at the United States Constitution, it's very biblically, what could they say?
Oriented.
You might want to go to screen share in a screenshot, a slideshow, Monique, to get the full screreen.
Yeah, good.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
Yeah, influence.
That's what I was trying to say.
So, here I had to shamelessly state who I am.
I am spiritually religious, ethical, organic, vegan, seventy percent raw.
Monique, twenty five years, no carcass, twenty years, no secretions.
In Catholicism, we always hear of Saint Francis of Assisi, right?
Even if you're not Catholic, everyone knows who Saint Francis was the patron saint of animals, he was also the patron saint of the environment.
And I do want to state that for many years I was stating that cows, when they would toot or burp, they were emitting methane gas.
Unfortunately, and they are, unfortunately, during the pandemic, we started getting skewed with the vegan movement because there are a lot of vegans that became, what can I say, like, demoted to plant-based.
Say that again, Michael?
Demoted to plant-based.
Demoted to plant-based, yeah.
To me, a vegan is truly caring for creatures and not getting into all sorts of other politics, which they did.
Certain things I don't agree with, I won't get into them because I want to keep going along.
But some of them got very nasty.
And a lot of them were just leftists.
I'm not a leftist.
I'm somewhere in between.
And I find it highly offensive because like this is this is coming from eons ago if you look in the Bible whether or not you believe in it the first diet Genesis 129 was from plants seed bearing plants and trees that bear fruit I'm not talking about the apple now but it's from back then.
So it's not like some sort of concept that Claude Schwab wants me to be vegan because I'm going to be weak and then I'm gonna be, my guns are gonna be taken away and no.
Okay.
That it kind of got misconstrued with that, right?
I'm not saying that there's not something to that because, uh, the yucky stuff trying to push that cricket flower.
But again, that's not vegan.
Yeah, like keto paleo folks.
Right.
And they didn't even get that.
A lot of the people.
So, and another thing is the medical freedom people.
Well, if you really want freedom, then let the animals go, in my opinion.
Okay.
Let's get back to the religion.
So we have the Christian and Jewish religion, Catholic, Hindu.
Hindus are predominantly vegetarian.
They do drink milk.
Unfortunately, Michael and I were just thinking how they're becoming the number one country of exporting beef, which is very sad to me.
Who's to thank for that, right?
Amoud and Modi, their drink oats.
You introduced me to that name.
I was not paying attention.
And that's the leader of India?
Yeah, the current PM.
Okay.
And then Jane is a misclassic.
We have vegans, Michael and Monique here.
My co-hosts, Joe Olson and I, who are of a different disposition, will continue our discussion of vegan philosophy right after this break.
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Joey, you got an update for us about Venezuela.
Go for it.
Yeah, first of all, I want to say that I have complete disrespect for the Old Testament.
Every story that's in the Hebrew Bible only exists because Hebrew is the only written language that's written.
that's continuous for the last 3 000 years but 1500 years prior to them was the sumerians who had exactly the same fables from probably exact same God with a little demonic overtones.
I never appreciated the Old Testament at all.
But getting back to Venezuela, there's a great website.
And let's see, I'm looking for in my notes.
Ben Norton, geopolitical economic reports, US, Latin America, US, Latin America.
drug smuggling and threats to Venezuela.
Venezuela doesn't produce probably one percent of the cocaine that's on the world market.
The majority of it's coming from Colombia, who because they have a right-wing dictator that we installed is given carte blanche on this.
But Venezuela does have the largest oil reserves in the entire world.
But the problem is that their oil reserves are heavy crude.
And when they were trying to get into the U.S. market, the refiners along the Gulf Coast said, well, we'll take oil, but we're not going to take your heavy crude.
And so you'll have to refine it in your country and send it to us, but we don't really need it.
So instead, back in the 80s, the PDVSA, which is the state-owned oil production company in Venezuela, I thought you had an urgent update.
This is just general history.
We can return to that.
Monique, you have a third guest, another guest joining us.
Please introduce him, join the conversation.
But to Joe's point, actually, remember when I said in New York City, those people were fighting each other and one parished?
Yeah, they were from Colombia, unfortunately, fighting over cocaine.
But they're doing well today.
So anyway, I have a guest.
You have a guest?
Yes, his name is Dr. Will Tuttle.
So he has a PhD as well, Dr. Fedser, it's barring the PhDs.
I'm kidding.
Dr. Tuttle has been a vegan since what, the 80s, the 90s.
He is a wonderful concert pianist.
He has multiple books out and he's traveled around the world talking about how going vegan helps the planet, the animals.
And take it away, Dr. Tuttle, if you want to describe more about yourself.
Thank you.
Why don't we switch back to take off the slideshow, Monique, so we can see Dr. Tuttle.
Yeah, very good.
Go right ahead.
We've been talking generally about vegan philosophy.
Monique and Michael offering their opinions.
We'd welcome yours.
Thank you so much, Dr. Fetzer.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I've been actually I've been a vegan since 1980, so 45 years.
And I'm the author of a book called The World Peace Diet, which has It's been translated into about 19 languages worldwide.
So I've been in the wonderful opportunity to travel all over the planet to promote the basic idea that we've all been given this wonderful gift of a physical body that doesn't require animals to be imprisoned and sexually abused and killed in order to get all the nutrients that we need to thrive and celebrate our lives on this beautiful earth.
And so that's the basic idea.
And yeah, go ahead.
If I may interrupt you, you're making the argument or it suggests to me, veganism is more about protecting animals, no cruelty to animals, than it has to do with nutrients or foodstuffs and so forth.
Am I correct that that's really the driving motive behind veganism?
But I welcome your expertise.
You seem to me to be one of the leading figures in the field.
Go forward.
Right.
Well, yeah, that's a very good question, you know, and it's one that there's a lot of confusion about.
But the word vegan was invented by Donald Watson in 1944 in England, and he put at the core of the definition itself motivation, that the motivation is to try to reduce cruelty and violence and suffering to animals.
And of course, part of that is a side effect I've discovered is that you tend to be healthier.
It's also better for the environment.
It's also, I think, better spirituality as well.
But the underlying idea is to try to just reduce cruelty to animals and other human beings also.
Because, like, I've been to slaughterhouses and factory farms, and I've seen these workers just stabbing animals all day.
And they have the highest rates of injury and among the highest rates of suicide, drug addiction, alcoholism, spousal abuse.
Because they're just doing horrible things, stabbing animals all day, raping them on rape racks.
You know, that's what they do for a living.
And I go to a store, I pay for that.
I'm not only paying for suffering to the poor animals who are abused, but I'm not only paying for suffering to the poor animals who are abused.
but also to the workers who have to do that and then I when I actually why I originally went a vegetarian and then vegan back in 1975 was I learned about the fact that we're growing enough food every year to feed everyone.
I mean, we're growing enough food to feed between 15 and 20 billion people.
We could easily feed everyone.
We've got about a billion of our brothers and sisters chronically hungry and starving because we feed most of the food we grow, the corn and soy and alfalfa and a lot of the feed grains.
We feed the imprisoned cows and pigs and chickens who waste most of it basically.
And so we have hunger and starvation.
Of course, large corporations, big pharmaceutical, chemical, petroleum companies and the medical industry, they all take advantage of that and they go in because when you have hunger, you have war and war is profitable.
And when you have disease, disease is profitable they send it to the pharmaceutical industry they're drugging all the animals they drug all the people I mean the whole thing is a big scam that's designed to turn animals into livestock and humans into livestock and and my new book called Food for Freedom focuses on the I the fundamental idea that as long as we look at other living beings merely as commodities and we buy and sell them by the pound we're gonna we're sowing the seeds like the main teaching in all the world religions I used to teach college courses in world religion
is whatever you sow you will reap and so we're sowing the seeds of treating animals as commodities and looking at them as mere livestock, these beautiful cows and pigs and chickens and turkeys and ducks and geese and all these animals.
And we find gosh, we have people looking at us like we're just livestock.
And they're using us like livestock.
And they're lying to us and deceiving us and treating us like livestock.
So if we want to have freedom, we can, but we have to grow and mature spiritually and intellectually and emotionally to the point where we stop dominating and exploiting other living beings completely unnecessarily.
Because the underlying teaching and truth is that every nutrient that finds its way into a cow or a pig or a chickens and we kill them and eat their flesh or eat their secretions like dairy products products or eggs, all those nutrients, all the amino acids and all the saturated fats and other fats and everything, whatever's in there, protein and minerals and vitamins, all that came from plants.
So we can eat the plants directly and we get everything we need, we don't have to kill an animal and eat them.
And so we could feed everyone on a tiny fraction of the land and the water and the petroleum and the resources.
If we would just eat that directly, we could allow the earth to be totally abundant and have plenty of habitat for wildlife again.
And we could have it's a foundation for peace and abundance.
It's right in front of us, and no one wants to, even truth and freedom seekers seem to think that they have the right to imprison and abuse animals, even though they don't want to be imprisoned and abused.
And everything we see in the news, like all the pedophilia and all the violence and abuse of humans by humans, we do all of that to animals.
Animals are serially sexually abused when they're just babies or children in human terms.
That's what we do.
We imprison them, we steal their purposes and we find, oh, we lose our own purpose.
You know, I lecture at universities and colleges and I ask students, like, what's your purpose?
And they look at me like, I'm crazy.
Like, purpose?
With a purpose.
There's only one purpose.
That's to make money, right?
I mean, that's why we're here.
That's how we get happy.
I mean, we have completely lost our way because of our ten thousand years of turning animals into livestock.
So the whole idea is that each one of us as an individual can understand this, we can change our lives and we can talk about it.
So that's basically what we do.
So your preliminary thoughts to Dr. Toddles overview.
I just want to make one quick point and I want to get back to the slides so that you could see the graphic images, Dr. Fetzer and Joe.
As I was saying before, during the pandemic, people would say, Oh, the veganism that's liberal, that's left, right?
And so, you don't really want to get politics into it.
We just want to be nice, respectful to people.
But, and I don't want to like go off on the tangent, but you know the whole concept that has happened with transgenders, right?
And so there were a lot of vegans that were pushing the truth.
Oh, they're people too.
They are people too.
But the fact is, with the hormones, this can really harm people.
I mean, we're seeing this now, you know, and and people being cut and whatnot.
So I just want to state that there's a between not wanting to be respectful to animals because we don't want to kill them.
We don't want to slaughter them.
We don't want to sexually assault them.
Then, like, some other thing like the LGBTQIA, okay, put that aside, but it's completely different.
The animals and Jody, your thought was, you know, not believing in the Abrahamic Bible.
That's completely fine.
I'm simply putting it out there that it was like the first diet according to that.
And when people are like, oh, it's left, it's left, it's left.
No, well, for the religious people, it's like, go to that text.
Many of them say, Oh, but God then let us have Monique, I appreciate your sincerity.
It seems to me we're talking about a half dozen different issues here.
One is the virtues are not of eating meat, the virtues are not of eating plants.
The abuse of animals, the killing and abuse, that's a whole separate matter.
Putting, you know, all kinds of terrible chemicals into all the food we eat, that's yet another.
And they're all getting run together here.
I'm interested in sorting them out.
I want Joe's preliminary and then I want to come back to doctor Tuttle.
Go with Joe, your thoughts.
Yeah, we live in a universe of that's profoundly indifferent to life in any form and certainly has no reference for human.
The only ability that we have is that we have the ability to communicate.
And over the generations, we've been able to accumulate a lot of knowledge about a whole lot of different things.
There have been mass extinctions throughout the entire history of our planet.
And as far as...
It's okay.
Hang on.
This is what I say.
There's so many issues being run here together.
Dr. Toddle, go right ahead.
Go right ahead.
No, I really appreciate what you're saying, Joe.
And that's the thing, you know, I mean, I'm constantly attacked, even though I typically was the most, one of the most respected voices in the vegan movement for like 35 years.
But ever since the last maybe We have a media that's controlled by the, I call it the military, industrial, medical, pharmaceutical, media banking complex.
And it makes money on people being deceived about all these different things.
I mean, there's massive profits to be made in sexually abusing animals and humans, right?
I mean, so they do.
And climate change, I mean, people, you know, people go vegan for the climate and that's a complete delusion.
I mean, there isn't, there isn't any truth really to the fact to this underlying idea that of anthropogenic climate change, like we humans are causing the climate change.
I mean, the climate is driven by the sun and by cosmic rays and by natural sources of carbon dioxide and water vapor changes and so forth.
It's not by human.
But if you can convince people that it's their fault the climate is changing, then you can take away their freedom to move, right?
You can say 15-minute cities.
That's what we did to cows and pigs and chickens.
They lived freely for millions of years.
And then 10,000 years ago, we started to put them in cages.
started to corral them.
We started to dump.
So, They want to corral us.
So I'm trying to get vegans to wake up and stop lying about climate change.
Should we just add, Joe's an expert on climate change.
We've done a nine-part series, Earth in over 100 million years with the lowest average temperature in Earth.
CO2 has nothing to do with climate.
They're not even correlated.
Not even correlated.
Causal connection.
CO2 is indispensable to live producing water and air fuels the earth in three or more dimensions.
The whole climate thing is a gigantic hoax and a scam.
Yeah.
Right.
Joe, you want to do just a real brief sentence or two, Joe?
Yeah.
The earth has 259 billion cubic meters.
1.9 billion cubic miles of mostly smolten rock, and it has 210 million cubic miles of ocean with an average temperature of four degrees and an average depth of two miles.
So bottom line is we got this enormous planet, and what's keeping that smolten rock going for the last four billion years is 700,000 cubic miles of uranium and 1.2 million cubic miles of thorium, which are constantly decaying and giving daughter cells which produce everything necessary for the atmosphere.
And the original atmosphere on Earth for the first billion years was ammonia and methane.
Where did that methane come from?
There wasn't a single cell life form on Earth for the first billion years.
All of that atmosphere was created as a.
Joe Joe, a couple of sentences.
Now, look, we've done a lot about COVID and the vaccine, and the pandemic was generated, manufactured.
They reclassified millions of cases of flu as COVID to generate a false impression.
There was no increase in rate of death in any age category from COVID, but the vaccine, whole nother matter, the mRNA, catastrophic, designed to kill and maim, reduce a population working very successfully.
But when it comes to veganism, they even want to put it in letterstuce, you know, they're aerosol spraying mRNA.
They want to put it in lettuce.
They want to put it in meat.
So this is just where I'm saying a lot of issues are getting run together now.
Yes, you're right.
And that's what I was trying to get at because what doctor Tuttle said, that's why I said about the methane and the trend, we don't we don't want to get into that at all.
You never hear me pushing climate change.
I'm with you on that.
I'm in it for the animals and I need to get back to the slides because you Oh, Monique, Monique, Monique.
You got too many slides.
We got too little time.
We're better off talking.
Go back.
No, no, no, no, no.
We got to see what's going on here is this honest work everyone this is what i think we we got the idea we get it you have the idea on this uh mode will you please go back to uh the screen of us talking i want to get dr tuttle back on the air well i think dr tuttle would like to see these photos because well no i think really mode i think it's true i think um i think we understand You go,
we understand the violence involved.
And the graphic imagery, yeah, I don't know if we need to do the graphic imagery.
I think, you know, it's wonderful that.
we can have these conversations.
I mean, I'm just delighted.
I think that the underlying thing is to see how there's a tiny, tiny elite.
It's one, ten thousandth of one percent of the human population has accumulated so much wealth that they basically deceive everyone.
And they create a series of pretexts to continually enslave us.
And we're so gullible.
because of the education.
My PhD is in education from the University of California, Berkeley.
And so I understand, like you do, I think, Jim, that education is basically an indoctrination system.
And the more you go through it, the more you're indoctrinated.
And so we have these educated.
people that are completely gullible because in many ways their careers are getting advanced as they dominate the rest of us.
So the whole idea, I think, is to get to the foundation of this, which I think really is the mentality required by animal agriculture.
Like, you know, 10,000 years of just dominating nature, dominating animals, and suppressing the sacred feminine capacity of consciousness within ourselves.
has created a very warlike society that's dominated by a few people.
And so we need to liberate animals.
I think that's the foundation.
And also question everything.
Question all the narratives.
The main psyops.
There's these psyops.
Animal agriculture is a big psyop.
This whole sexuality is a big psyop.
Climate change is a psyop.
The germ theory is a huge psyop.
Overpopulation is a psyop.
There's all these psyops that we're taught to believe in.
And they all come out of animal agriculture, really, quite honestly.
It's all very good.
I want to get Michael's take.
Michael, do you agree liberating animals is a primary driving force?
behind veganism michael you're on mute michael you're muted, you're muted, you're muted.
Michael, unmute.
Once autonomy for nonhuman beings, earthlings is given, it will follow for all human beings.
It's just a given.
Because as long as we do what we have been doing and are doing to nonhuman earthlings, we will do the same to other human earthlings.
Of course, we're biologically, we're all animals, belong to the animal kingdom rather than us.
Exactly, and genetically we are kin 99% to the vast majority.
Monique, I know there's so much you'd like to say and I'm sorry we don't have more time for you to say it, but go ahead and work in a few more of your propositions you want to convince.
I'm going to put the link in the story for the show.
I've already copied your link.
Go right ahead, Mike.
Well, I think that this says it all.
Dairy is scary.
It's racked in.
It's rape racked in.
Over millions since it came out some years ago.
Let's go.
Hey guys.
So since everyone's so busy these days, I'm going to explain to you how the dairy industry works in five minutes.
Like other female mammals, cows only lactate and produce milk when they're pregnant or have a newborn to feed.
So the dairy industry inseminates or impregnates cows starting at the age of around 12 months over and over again so they keep making milk.
And it's a rather routine process.
You see, first the industry jacks off a bunch of bulls, sometimes using a hand or help from an electro ejaculator, which is basically a giant cow dildo that goes into the anus of the bull until it blows.
And that semen is collected and then inserted into the vagina of a female cow with a long tube, usually while she's confined in what the industry calls a rape rack.
And sometimes they put their fist right into the anus of the female cow, you know, to loosen the area.
To make the process as effective as possible.
What are you feeling for in there when you're just a bit jumpy?
I think I would be if someone did that to me.
He's bringing it out.
He massages a little bit just to relax everything and help that seed go where it needs to go.
He must be responsible for a lot of cows.
And when that baby cow was born, It's pretty much immediately taken away from its mother and locked in a crate.
Because if it stayed around mom, it would drink her milk.
and that shits for us And you see, a mother cow's bond with her young is very strong and affectionate, and she sometimes cries out for days in search of her baby.
But nobody...
Thank you.
That was a little more than I think we needed, my friend.
No, I think that was.
Okay.
Dr. Tuttle.
No, he's from the split and he sold for veal.
and if it's a girl she's well um so dairy cows
I, uh, yeah, that, I mean, that, um, that video is, is accurate and the thing is it's um you know when i was when i was only 12 years 13 years old 14 years old i i lived in uh concord massachusetts i would go up to vermont in the summer and work on a uh and i go to a summer camp but we they had a dairy there and so i i actually participated in killing the cows and so forth so i know on these small even small little dairies um it's
it's it's brutal what's actually done to these animals and it's not the thing i guess the important point is it's not necessary you know here i am i'm i'm actually uh 72 years old i old.
I just did a test recently to determine my biological age.
I have a biological age of 22.
And, you know, it's like we can be healthy and thrive.
I haven't been to a doctor.
I haven't taken one pill in 50 years for anything, right?
I've had no health insurance.
I've stayed out of the medical system completely since 1972.
And I think That's our natural state.
We don't need to have doctors and all these drugs and all this stuff.
If we just take responsibility for our health, try to show compassion and kindness to nature, to animals, to each other, to wildlife, to hungry people, try to minimize our footprint, try to be aware.
I was also a Zen Buddhist monk in Korea, so I've spent, you know, thousands of hours sitting in silence and meditation.
And I think that that's important.
I think to quiet our mind and connect with our own inner wisdom is so important.
And in our society, everybody's running around, driven.
Nobody takes time to just listen internally to nature, to their true nature.
So that's really the key, I think, is to connect with our mind.
Very successful.
representative of the movement, doctor Tuttle.
We might continue our conversation on another occasion.
I'm very favorable.
Yeah.
Joe, Joe, I want your kind of global overview about the vegan movement and how you see it from a scientific perspective.
Well, I certainly agree with every statement that's been made about allopathic medicine.
I avoided that system repeatedly until about two months ago when I got something that they don't even recognize, parasitic pneumonia and they don't even recognize that parasites are absolutely everywhere.
There's parasites that are single cell protos, I mean single cell that enter into your cell that absolutely cause mass damage along with all the other ones and even if you're a vegan you're subject to a whole lot of parasites that are eating more of your food than you are.
So I recommend that people take some antiparasitic drugs which are over the counter and they're perfectly safe.
and you'll find yourself in a hell of a lot better shape even than you are right now.
Monique, give us a final thought since you are the inspiration behind this sojourn on Labor Day.
Go right ahead, Monique.
Thank you.
First of all, I do need to plug the fact that I am running again for Screen Actors Guild and it's right in my platform, Veganism.
Okay.
At Pharma Harma, no Pharma Harma.
I'm here because of the animals.
I'm not here because of climate change.
I'm not here because of the environment.
I'm not here because of leftism.
I am not here for anything but for the animals.
Thank you, Monique.
Thank you, Michael.
Thank you, Dr. Tuttle.
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