The Raw Deal (1 August 2025) with co-host Paul from CA
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This is Jim Petzer, your host on the raw deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B this first day of August 2025, anticipated being joined by Paul Host, co-host Paul from California.
Now, virtually everyone knows about a massive earthquake originally estimated 8.7, turns out to have been 8.8.
Pacific Ocean off Russia's east coast.
Tsunami warnings issued for entire U.S. West Coast.
Al Turnher may have been the very first to report it.
Turns out not to be a big threat to the West Coast.
But what is generally not recognized is that it was set up in relation to Russia's nuclear submarine base, which appears to have been wiped out by a tsunami and earthquake.
Here's a video about it.
And then we'll comment.
How was the tsunami hitting the Russian eastern coast?
You see, around 7:30 p.m. Eastern last night, a powerful earthquake measuring 8.8 on the Richter scale struck near the Kamata Peninsula in the far east of Russia.
Just minutes after the earthquake, a tsunami warning was issued all across the Russian eastern coast.
And then within 30 minutes, waves as high as 12 feet or 4 meters were recorded hitting the Russian coast.
Then we got tsunami warnings in Japan, Hawaii, and even the eastern coast of the United States.
Then at 2 a.m. Eastern Time, waves were hitting the Hawaii coast and even California, recording as high as 5 feet or roughly 2 meters.
For now, though, we'll focus on the Russian coast because the earthquake and the tsunami were near a strategic Russian Navy base of Rubatsky that's located on the Kamats Peninsula.
We'll get into exactly what type of damage was done and what we know so far.
But first, let's look at some footage of the tsunami.
Thank you.
This next footage is one of the most shocking ones I have ever seen.
While the earthquake was ongoing, there was a surgery going on in a hospital in Kamataks.
While the hospital started shaking, the patient was under anesthesia.
So the surgeons could not just abandon the procedure or they could not wake her up because it would have been pointless.
That's why the hospital staff just started holding the operating table to make sure the patient is safe.
Luckily, the surgery was successful and everything went well even after the earthquake.
Now, let's move on to things that did not go so well for Russia.
And this is specifically regarding the Russian naval base near the epicenter of the earthquake.
You see, just 110 kilometers or roughly 60 miles from the epicenter lies the Russian submarine base of Ryjachin, which is also known as Hornet's Nest.
It's home to one of Russia's largest concentrations of nuclear weapons and strategic delivery platforms.
The base is a core component of Russia's Pacific Fleet and hosts multiple classes of nuclear-powered submarines, including Project 667, Delta III, Project 995 Bori, and many other.
Collectively, these submarines are capable of launching hundreds of nuclear warheads and represent a core element of Russia's strategic deterrence.
The naval base in this city is one of the oldest in the country.
It was commissioned back in 1904.
According to media reports, the Pacific Fleet has been rearming in the recent years.
Among other things, two new nuclear submarines have been transferred to the region.
Nevertheless, many units still date back to Soviet times.
As the Australian Ministry of Defense and the U.S. Naval Institute report, the fleet was neglected for a long time, many boats were decommissioned after the Cold War, and some were not replaced.
In an ongoing modernization program up to 2027, the Pacific Fleet has only been given marginal consideration.
The fleet is strategically important for Russia, though.
In addition to nuclear deterrence, it is also intended to mark Russia's presence specifically in view of Japan and China, which have also upgraded their military capability.
While modern submarines are built to withstand underwater pressure and shocks, land-based infrastructure, including missile storage depots, docking systems, and nuclear maintenance facilities, are far more susceptible to seismic damage.
If any part of the command and control systems were compromised, the consequences could be severe, not just for Russia, but for global nuclear stability.
Unlike civilian nuclear plants, whose safety protocols are heavily scrutinized, military facilities often operate under a veil of secrecy.
It remains unclear what emergency protocols, if any, were activated at this base following the quake and whether Russia is prepared to handle a cascading crisis at a base housing submarine-launched ballistic missiles capable of reaching the United States or Europe.
If you look at your screen, you can see that the infrastructure is situated directly along the shoreline and elevated roughly three to six meters above the sea level.
The extent of damage from the earthquake itself remains unclear.
As for the tsunami, if wave heights exceed three meters, some impact to the facility can be expected.
Now, we know from later reports that the tsunami waves were as high as three, maybe even four meters high.
Now, unfortunately, the Russian censorship in this region has been extremely high even before this earthquake, and it has only gone up since the earthquake because the Russian officials don't want citizens to be sharing videos and images of important sites that Ukraine or maybe someone else can use to exploit Russian weakness.
On top of that, Russia also has bots working on foreign websites like YouTube, where they downvote any video that criticizes Vladimir Putin.
So, if you guys can do us a big favor and hit that like and subscribe button down below, it really does help us out in the algorithm.
Now, of course, coming back to Russia, in the next few days, the satellite imagery will give us more details about the extent of the damage.
But as of right now, this is what we see when we look at Russian social media to see if anyone is sharing any clips or images of the damage, especially near the Pacific Navy base.
And it's not just in this region.
Putin has been afraid of Russians turning against him all throughout Russia.
And that's why FSB is actually running advertisements on Russian state TV telling people to not go against Putin.
Here's just one example of one of the ads.
mom dad i'm going to max's You will definitely be noticed.
You will definitely be deceived.
They will definitely find you.
don't make mistakes that can't be corrected All the while this is happening, the Trump administration has continued to put pressure on India and China, two countries that have been helping the Russian war machine.
You see, the only reason Putin has been able to circumvent the sanctions is because countries are willing to pay for his oil.
Countries are willing to give him money all the while he's carrying out his senseless invasion of Ukraine.
But now, the U.S. is targeting the countries that are supporting this war, not just Russia.
This is what President Trump tweeted out about India, and then we'll talk about China.
Remember, while India is our friend, we have over the years done relatively little business with them because their tariffs are far too high, among the highest in the world.
And they have the most strenuous and obnoxious non-monetary trade barrier of any country.
Also, they have always bought a vast majority of military equipment from Russia and are Russia's largest buyer of energy along with China at a time when everyone wants Russia to stop killing in Ukraine.
All things not good.
India will therefore be paying a tariff of 25% plus a penalty for the above starting on August 1st.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Now, important to clarify, I guess, this 25% does not include the 100% threat that President Trump has told Russia about.
And Russia has a 10-day deadline to negotiate a ceasefire.
Otherwise, countries that are buying Russian oil, like India, like China, like Brazil, like Turkey, they will be faced with 100% tariff on anything they send to the U.S. That tariff could go as high as 500% because we have a bill on Senate that has bipartisan support.
It has 90 senators supporting it.
If you know US politics, I know half of our audience is outside US, but in US politics, much like any other country's politics, it's almost impossible to get 90% support for anything.
And the fact that this bill has 90% of senators supporting it truly shows how strongly U.S. wants to put pressure on countries that are supporting Russia.
Another storyline to keep an eye on is US trade negotiations with China that are still ongoing.
And for some reason, President Trump keeps giving China another 90 days, another 90 days, another 90 days.
But one of the main negotiation points has been China's support of Russia.
And that doesn't just include the oil purchases.
In fact, China is one of the few countries that is actually supporting Russia militarily.
We have found many drones inside Ukraine that Russia launched that had 100% parks from China.
So basically, China is giving drones to Russia to kill Ukrainian civilians.
And that's something the U.S. wants to stop.
And that's something that's being negotiated over in the trade negotiations that are going on.
Here we have Secretary of Treasury Scott Descent, who has been the key point in these negotiations, sharing what he's telling China when it comes to how they need to deal with Russia.
Let's listen in.
What was your message to the Chinese about Russian oil?
Did you tell them they're on notice they need to start to pull back?
Well, we described it's not just the president, what is making its way through the U.S. Senate.
And hard to imagine anything could get 80 or 90 bipartisan votes in the U.S. Senate is a bill that will give the president discretion to apply secondary tariffs on sanctioned Russian oil from, I believe it's from 0 to 500%.
I believe he's used 100%.
And we've heard from several of our European counterparts, NATO allies, even Canada, Canada is in NATO, that they will be following on that.
So we would expect most of the Western alliance that has been supporting Ukraine to follow On that.
So, I think anyone who buys sanctioned Russian oil should be ready for this.
What was their response to that warning?
The Chinese take their sovereignty very seriously.
We don't want to impede on their sovereignty.
So, they'd like to pay 100% tariff.
Now, let's look at Russia a little bit because what's funny is Russian propaganda is going strong, especially inside Russia, because Russian citizens are not afraid of the sanctions at all, mainly because they don't really understand the pressure this would put on the Russian economy, but also because Russian citizens truly believe Russia is the richest country in the world.
In fact, they're so rich, some of the Russian citizens say that Russia can afford to give out free money to its citizens and still have no repercussions at all.
Listen to Russian reaction to Trump's deadline.
Of course, they're threatening.
Any sanctions are threatening.
I believe that one decisive strike on England and it'll all be over instantly.
It'll be over.
We already do everything ourselves.
We've got everything of our own.
Why do we need something from anyone else?
Well, yes, we're still a bit behind Sony, but other than that, we're living just fine.
Nothing poses a threat to us.
How so?
Just like that.
Russia is a big country, bigger than America.
These sanctions, first of all, as I already said, Russia is a big country, and we have more opportunities in terms of resources.
We have more opportunities for resources.
Where does the oil go for export?
Where does the gas go for export?
So, what do their sanctions matter to us?
We have well-developed international production, so their sanctions won't hinder anything.
I I don't think so because we have a rich country, the richest in the world.
We should be born as pensioners already.
Yeah, so they definitely won't influence us with that.
Well, there's several fascinating aspects to that presentation I'd like to ask Sam.
One is talking about Russia as the richest country in the world, Vladimir Putin, perhaps inadvisedly, has in the past alluded to Russia's natural resources having the value of 88 trillion.
That's led to the desire to seize Russia, break it apart, exploit its natural resources by the Western countries and the Rothschild bankers.
They want to take control of Russia.
Another point I would make is several comments there about Russia killing Ukrainians using, for example, Chinese-made drones.
They're emphasizing the idea of killing Ukrainian civilians.
But Putin and his approach has been kind and gentle.
He's been seeking to avoid civilian deaths.
And we know, of course, as a consequence of the conflict, Ukraine has lost around one and a half million troops.
They're so desperate, they're now resorting to recruiting women and the elderly while minimizing Russian losses, which I estimate about 10%, about 150,000.
But most importantly, of course, and I had hoped Paul would be there for this part of it, but he's here now.
Russia's submarine base may have been wiped out by the tsunami and the earthquake off of the Russian East Coast.
It was originally rated at 8.7, but actually now turns out to be 8.8.
And each of those increases in the digit in the Richter scale represents a tenfold increase in the power of the quake.
Paul, I'm very keen on your thoughts about this because it appears to me this was deliberate.
This wasn't an accident.
This wasn't a natural occurrence.
It was probably induced by HARP.
And therefore, I infer this is a beginning or an extension or a continuation of war against Russia by the West.
In this case, I presume by the United States.
Your thoughts.
Your thoughts.
Paul, are you there?
Sorry about that.
I'm having some issues with my phone.
I wasn't able to unmute initially, but now I have unmuted and hopefully I'm coming in okay.
Yeah, loud and clear.
Yeah, a lot to unpack there.
You know, I was just thinking this morning about, I'm just tired of it all already.
I mean, just even as a listener and spectator and somebody that doesn't have a dog in the fight, as they say, you know, the whole thing is just so ridiculous and so tiresome.
And what is it really they're fighting about?
Okay.
So, you know, as far as the various assessments that have been thrown about about how capable Russia is and, you know, how capable we are.
I mean, I tend not to believe propaganda from either side.
And, you know, because both sides, I believe, are engaging in, you know, various forms of psychological warfare.
But it's pretty clear that the usual suspects, the people in charge, are keen to kill more of us.
And by more of us, I mean white man, Western man, you know, that's who is mainly going to die in this conflict.
And that's how I look at it as a loss of white racial biology, because that's how I tend to look at everything these days, to be honest with you.
Well, that was quite a response to my question about the quake having been engineered, man-made, probably using harb to damage or destroy the Russian nuclear submarine base located in that exact vicinity.
Indeed, other articles saying if you were going to hit Russia, where would you want to do it?
And this is exactly where you'd want to do it.
I suppose.
I mean, again, the main reason I guess I didn't mention that specifically is because it's just complete and total speculation, right?
That's all we're doing, which is fine.
I mean, that's what we get paid to do, right?
Speculate.
We're not paid to do.
The point is, Paul, this does not appear to be a natural phenomenon.
It was at a strategic location.
If you want to explain it, the explanation that would confer the highest probability on the evidence is that it was a deliberate hit using HARP by the U.S. military.
Now, if we can figure that out, Vladimir Putin and the Russian Federation military can figure it out.
And that leads to the question of how should one respond.
And since, of course, they're using the plausible deniability affirmation that it would be a natural earthquake.
What about a natural earthquake at, say, Cheyenne Mountain, where NORAD has its headquarters?
I know it's granite.
It's supposed to be impervious.
But if I were in the Russian command contemplating an appropriate response, that might be among those that ought to be considered.
Your thoughts.
Yeah, sure.
Let's see it happen.
I mean, you know, again, there's no proof of these weapons.
I'm not saying that they don't exist or that they do.
I mean, it's interesting.
It's interesting speculation.
I don't disagree with your, you know, the way you phrased it, the hypothesis it would confer the highest probability.
I mean, sure.
And, you know, you mentioned the term plausible deniability.
Well, is this something that we're being accused of?
I mean, is this internet speculation?
Oh, yes, we have the reports that if you wanted to damage Russia militarily, this would be the perfect place to do it.
No, I have not yet heard any assertions.
I'm offering the hypothesis, the conjecture.
It seems to me this was a U.S. military strike on Russia.
And I think Trump is just reckless and intemperate enough that he's willing to do these things.
Or should I say the guy we regard as being Trump, because one of the issues I want to explore with you is a possibility that we're not dealing with the original Donald Jay, to which we'll return subsequently.
And therefore, if that is correct, I'm surmising that it is correct, but obviously in the tandem but fallible fashion of science where new evidence or alternative hypotheses might lead to rejecting the hypothesis and accepting an alternative.
But right now, that seemed to me the most plausible explanation.
And I find it therefore profoundly troubling because this is a kinetic action.
This is actually involving energy and destruction.
And listen, we've seen the effects of these directed energy weapons in many other locations, Pacific Palisades, Lahaina, you know, Paradise, California.
In my judgment, I mean, the existence of these weapons and devices, which appear to be satellite-mounted, is not really in doubt.
And I, of course, appreciate your profound skepticism about a whole host of conventional beliefs, including about nukes and their effects.
I appreciate that, Paul.
I'm just saying here, I don't think really that the existence of these weapons is even remotely in doubt.
I'm talking now directed energy.
Of course, I also feel the same about nukes where we diverge.
But I'm just saying I think that's where we're at.
There's a lot more evidence for directed energy weapons than there is for nukes.
So I'm much more inclined to believe in them because we have seen the effects.
In other words, the results, which are not explainable in any normal sense by weapons that we, for example, you would normally see thermal effects or pressure wave effects from conventional bombing.
And for example, in a normal quote-unquote wildfire, there's also very well understood burn patterns and so forth.
And certain materials are damaged in a particular way.
So I don't have any doubt, in other words, about zero doubt that there are some sort of directed energy and or microwave weapons.
I pretty much do not believe they're mounted on satellites.
I believe there is just an aerial platform of some sort that the U.S. military has.
And whether or not the Russians have similar things, that's up to debate.
I would imagine the people in the military in this country, the ones that are not insane, would probably not be messing around with Russia unless they felt very confident that we maintained a technological superiority.
Now, on the other hand, you could have the typical insane and or Jewish-influenced top staff, and they could be aiming for the destruction of the U.S. or maybe even the destruction of both.
I mean, again, I go back to this idea that we are in and we have been in a racial war.
We've been the Target of you know, our societies have been the target of being undermined by these people since time has been recorded.
And so, again, it cannot be argued seriously, in my opinion, that the results of these wars will please these people, no matter how widespread they become.
So, in other words, if we the United States and Russia engage in a kinetic war, these maniacs are going to be happy.
The only question is: are there sane people in our military, in our infrastructure, that would actually care about our preservation?
That's a question for me.
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We'll be right back with Paul from California.
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now we return you to your host Well, there's been what I regard as quite a significant development within Israel.
After months of hesitation, B. Salem and physicians for Human Rights Israel now assert that the war against the Palestinians is meant to erase Palestinian life now and in the future.
In other words, they have declared that the circumstances in Israel do qualify as a genocide, and therefore they refer to it as our genocide.
After 22 months of war, starvation, and systematic destruction, two of Israel's leading human rights organizations have concluded that Israel's actions in the Gaza Strip constitute genocide.
This finding issued Monday in two separate reports by Physician for Human Rights Israel and B. Salem marks a rupture within Israeli civil society.
Until now, Israeli human rights organization had largely stopped short of using the term genocide, even as Palestinian groups, Israeli genocide and Holocaust scholars, and international bodies like Amnesty International Human Rights Watch and Medicine San Frontiers adopted it months ago.
Drawing upon nearly two years of documentation, both groups argued that Israel's action in Gaza meets the definition of genocide as outlined in the 1948 Genocide Convention.
The Islam Reports titled Our Genocide centers on Israel's targeting of civilians and the systematic dismantling of Palestinian society in Gaza.
The physician provides a health-based legal analysis of Israel's deliberate destruction of Gaza's healthcare system.
In a conversation with 972 magazine, Solem executive director Yuli Navak described the decision to name genocide as a result of a long, painful process of internal reckoning.
Nothing prepares you for the realization that you are part of a society committing genocide, she said.
This is a deeply painful moment for us.
What we see is international, what we see as intentional action, coordinated Practices aimed at destroying Palestinian society in Gaza.
That is the exact definition of genocide.
Attacking civilians in order to destroy the group.
When asked about the anticipated impact of Islam's report, Novak admitted it alone cannot bring an end to the genocide.
What we do hope is to raise our voices as the people who live here, Israelis and Palestinians.
We have the ability to understand the situation deeply, both to bring the voices of the victims, which is our first and foremost moral obligation, but also to bring forth an analysis of how the genocidal system works in order to fight against political systems.
You have to understand that.
Islam identifies four main pillars of Israel's genocidal campaign: mass killing, violent population transfer, systematic destruction, and the dismantling of Palestinian society at every level.
Paul, your thoughts.
Well, that ought to help, huh?
A report?
Okay.
You know, thank you very much.
I mean, come on, Jimmy.
It's so absurd.
You know, you got these just, I don't know.
I thought that sums it up as best I can for the moment, you know, like a report.
Yeah, again, great.
Thank you.
Well, but the fact is, Paul, it's within Israel, which has been seeking to deny that this actually is genocide.
The politicians in Israel, the leaders, you know, from net on down want to say this is all because of Hamas.
Of course.
Two groups in Israel shifting the responsibility where it belongs to the government of Israel and acknowledging the painful fact that the nation is indeed engaged in genocide, which most of us have seen to be the case for virtually as long as this has been undertaken.
It was very clear.
And of course, now we have the latest declarations of Netanyahu to annex Gaza.
And also, they're planning to annex the West Bank, which, of course, is going to complete the dismantling of Palestine, the takeover, and the conversion to all Israel.
Meanwhile, here's just one more indication of how this war of attrition, the genocide is taking place.
Israeli forces kill 111 Palestinians in Gaza over 24 hours.
Gaza's health ministry said Thursday, Israel's genocidal assault in Gaza took the lives of 111 Palestinians and another 820 were wounded over the previous 24 hours.
The Health Ministry, which, by the way, has been highly reliable in the past, said that the majority of those killed, 91, were killed attempting to reach aid, including 54 killed on Wednesday during the Zikim crossing in northern Gaza.
Israeli military admitted to firing on a crowd in the area, but claimed it wasn't aware of any casualties.
The Palestinian news agency, WAFA, reported 15 were killed, 65 injured Thursday when Israeli forces targeted civilians near an aid distribution site in central Gaza.
Medical sources told Al Jazeera at least 23 were killed while attempting to get aid on Thursday.
Thus, they use the aid stations as bait to lure out Palestinians for slaughter, which has been widely reported.
Now, something that may come as a bit more of a surprise than the ongoing slaughter, Trump threatens a trade deal with Canada over its plan to recognize a Palestinian state.
President Trump said it would be very hard to reach a trade deal with Canada if it recognizes a Palestinian state, suggesting U.S. trade relationship with its neighbors in the north hinges on a stance toward Israel.
Wow.
Canada just announced it is backing stated for Palestine.
Truth wrote on Druid Social Thursday morning.
That'll make it very hard to make a trade deal with him.
Oh, Canada.
The post came after Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said Canada would recognize a Palestinian state in September if the Palestinian Authority agrees to certain commitments.
Now, what I find astonishing is that Trump no longer makes any pretense.
There's no sense of neutrality.
This is very consistent with him saying, get it done, get the job done, meaning complete the slaughter of the Palestinians.
But for him to make it a condition at trade that other countries not recognize a Palestinian state, when the UK and France have now announced they intend to do so as well in September, this is just, to me, utterly shameful behavior.
It is so disgraceful.
And it further increases my contempt for this man who has no business serving as president of the United States.
Your thoughts, Paul.
Yeah, well, once again, there's a lot there.
In other words, I mean, this whole thing about recognizing the Palestinian state is just, it's a thought exercise at best, right?
It'd be like recognizing, you know, Custer and his army have their own state when they're fighting at the Battle of Little Bighorn, you know, in my opinion.
You know, it's just paying lip service to the idea that Palestine in any real sense exists as an independent nation, but it pretty much has not since, you know, Israel has taken over.
So again, it's something that a lot of people would wish for or hope for, that the Palestinians actually have.
But of course, they don't have the organized Form of government and infrastructure and military and everything else that it would take to be a viable state to even think about contesting Israel for any territory.
As you said, they're using aid stations as bait to slaughter civilians.
I mean, it's pretty much just a shooting gallery for Israel.
And to talk about a Palestinian state, in my opinion, is, I don't know, what's the best word to describe that?
It's, you know, it's just, it's a little bit insulting to me to even hear talk of it because these countries that are quote unquote recognizing the Palestinian state, they are also in bed in many ways with Israel.
So, you know, it's a hollow gesture at best, would be my take on it.
And then, you know, we can talk more about Trump if you like, if you want to say some more about Trump.
But to me, this just proves, you know, in my opinion, whoever Trump was before, and I'm talking about as recently as a year or two ago, or as recently as his previous presidency, this new or newer Trump is either not the same man or somebody that has already been compromised so much that he's just now acting out the role that he was always meant to play.
And that was always the game from the start.
I think those are astute observation.
A friend of mine has been insisting that not only Donald Trump, but Vladimir Putin as well are both Lubavitchers.
I find that, or I have found that, mind-boggling in the past.
But here we have a report.
If you dig into Wayback Machine, for example, that dropped Ben Burton to Judaism in 2017, joining Shabbat in New York City.
Here's a video about it.
Donald Trump converted to Judaism two years ago, according to White House official.
There it is.
That's his blog.
This is from 2019.
He said, President Donald Trump converted audio only because there's nothing on the screen in New York City, according to a high-level White House official.
Mr. Goldberg says the story has allegedly been held by CNN's editors for months, but is due to be released within the next few days.
David Elias Goldberg, a fellow at the Jewish Center of Anti-Semitic Study, has also interviewed the White House source.
Anti-Semitic study was pushed by his daughter Ivanka and son-in-law, Jared Krishner, to join the faith.
At first, Trump resisted, stating it would threaten his base of evangelical Christian voters.
However, he had a change of heart and officially converted in early 2017.
The ceremony was held in private and closely guarded for nearly two years.
It appears the White House is prepared to slowly release this information.
And by summer, it is expected Trump will fully address his new faith in an evening televised news conference.
He is clearly the most pro Israel president in the history of America.
He's given Israel every single thing that they've wanted, and he's about to give them war with Iran.
And so, has he converted?
So, I want to show you one more article.
This is, let me see if I can.
This is Times of Israel.
Yeah, the Times of Israel.
This was published March 22nd, 2019.
This is the Times of Israel.
Trump, the first Jewish president of the United States.
Now, that's not us saying that.
That's Times of Israel.
Times of what nation?
Israel.
So the people in Israel, that's an English-speaking newspaper in Israel.
And that's what they read: that Donald Trump is the first Jewish president of the United States.
And how did they qualify that, Rick?
They gave a list of things that he did for Israel.
First of all, of course, moving the embassy to Jerusalem.
That's right.
That was a big deal.
Then recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights.
He's the first sitting U.S. president to visit the Western Wall.
They gave him credit for defeating ISIS.
They gave him credit for rebuking the United Nations when the UN criticized Israel.
They credit him with closing the Palestinian office in Washington, D.C. And they said these things, what is one, two, three, four, five, six, these six things qualify Donald Trump to be named the first Jewish president of the United States.
And that's what the Times of Israel said.
Again, that was not David Duke's newsletter.
It's a Jewish-owned newspaper.
And they're proclaiming Donald Trump to be the first Jewish president of the United States.
So now when you look at this David Elias Goldberg saying that a White House insider told him that President Trump converted to Judaism two years ago, it doesn't sound so crazy.
It's not too crazy.
And that CNN knows about it.
And CNN is sitting on the story and will be releasing it at some point.
It was history's darkest hour.
Millions of innocent, wonderful, and beautiful lives, men, women, and children, were extinguished as part of a systematic attempt to eliminate the Jewish people.
It was the most savage crime against God and his children.
We were so deeply moved to see you.
Touching the stones of the wall.
And may I say, we were deeply moved to see First Lady Belania Trump touching the stone of that wall and Equally moved when we saw your daughter, Ivanka, and your son-in-law, Jared, do the same.
Okay, so let's just, what if it's true?
And I hate these people so much.
What if it's true?
What does that say to you, Doc?
Yeah.
That says to me, there's been such a major shift in values in America.
It's no longer Judeo-Christian values anymore.
It's Judeo-values now.
Yes.
Yes.
And what are those precisely?
Yeah, hang on, Paul.
Hang on, Paul.
The footage, which you were unable to see.
I'm not quite sure why.
It's utterly convincing and totally authentic.
He's right there at the wailing wall, you know.
Yeah, who's right there beside him, Bonca, Melania, a whole bit, Paul?
It looks 100% authentic.
Basically, like every other president, there's photos, there's photos of all the presidents going back to Carter, I believe, at the Wailing Wall.
So, you know, this is nothing new.
Well, his conversion to be a venture, that is new.
I suppose.
It's just a confirmation of what we already have known.
In other words, I view this whole thing as there's memes going around in the so-called white nationalist movement, which I sort of have been attempting to drag you kicking and screaming for the last seven, eight years since I started calling your show.
But, you know, there's what you would call animation or a meme where you have a Gentile-looking individual or face and then they pull the mask off and underneath the mask is Shlomo.
I'm sure you're familiar with Shlomo the happy merchant.
And this is really all we're dealing with right now.
You know, the American people are increasingly waking up to the idea that our entire government, and be it our entire infrastructure, the operating system of the United States is Shlomo, the happy merchant.
I mean, that's really all this is.
And, you know, the idea whether Trump has converted to, you know, Judaism or not, people are saying he's actually a Jew anyway.
So what does that even mean to convert to Judaism?
Because it's not a religion that we're worried about.
It's the Jewish racial people that are the problem.
And, you know, as pertains earlier in the show, when you talked about the, you know, this report in Israel that came out that, you know, they're starting to recognize it as a genocide.
You know, there's no doubt about the fact it's pretty easy to make the case that there's no country, including Israel, that is a unified front in public opinion.
And I'm sure there are plenty of people living in Israel that are very troubled by what's going on in Gaza.
But at the same time, they're not in charge.
And it's like, you know, anywhere else where the people that are in charge are the ones that make the news and everybody else just comments on it.
But the reason I mention it is because there would be people that say, well, not all Jews.
But again, I go back to this notion that you can't, that's not a useful concept to deal with the reality where you see the same pattern of behavior over and over and over and over again in various countries and societies throughout history.
So it's sort of like this group of people is going, when they have any significant numbers and they get into positions of power where they can, you know, run their schemes and operations with their extreme in-group cooperation, they're going to do, you know, what they always do, just like honeybees are going to do what they do, right?
It's just this is the way of the world.
And there's many people that have recognized it before, including, of course, the National Socialists in Germany, but they weren't the first.
This is just, we're going through what I believe Western white man has gone through many times in the past in various societies, large and small.
And it's not going to end until we take power and control and exclude these people for as long as possible.
I would love to say for all time, but that has always been that has failed in the past.
So it's just a matter of time when they get back into power and control.
So that's why they have to be excluded from society, not just excluded from government positions or banking or anything else, but they have to be excluded from society, unfortunately.
Here we have a piece from Bondo Weiss about New York Times and how its commitment to Zionism begins with its own staff, no doubt.
It's sometimes called the Juno Times.
New York Times has helped to enable and sustain Israel's ongoing genocide.
A new dossier reveals the close ties of 20, 20 top editors, executives, and journalists at the Times who have covered Gaza and their connection to Israel and to Zionism.
We are putting the New York Times on notice.
Since a Zionist genocide in Gaza began over 20 months ago, the paper of record, meaning, of course, the official history of the United States is supposed to be what is published in the New York Times, as absurd as that may sound, has run cover for Israel's war crimes.
We have witnessed a Zionist enemy drop 2,000-pound bombs on displaced Palestinians, forced to survive in tents, massacre starving Palestinians at aid sites, arrest and torture Palestinians accused of fighting back or administering care,
destroy Gaza's entire health care system, obliterate almost every one of its schools and universities, damage over 90% of residential buildings, and block food and supplies from entering the besieged strip.
But New York Times journalists have chosen to ignore, whitewash, distort, or Justify each one of these crimes as much as any weapons manufacturer.
The New York Times is a part of the machinery of war, producing in the realm of public opinion the impunity that enables and sustains Israel's ongoing genocide.
When we first occupied the lobby of the New York Times in November 2023, we called out the Times' refusal to historicize the Al-Aska flawed within the context of Israel's over seven decade-long occupation of Palestine in a choice to frame the Israeli military bombardment of Gaza as a targeted war against Hamas.
We demanded that the Times tell the truth.
We pointed out our own paper, the New York War Crimes, which contained the names of Palestinian martyrs recorded at that time.
It took us over an hour just to read the names of martyrs under the age of one.
We called on our audience to boycott the time to divest their time, trust, and attention from the paper and to unsubscribe from its news games and recipes.
Paul, I got to tell, this is just so disgusting.
When I was an assistant professor at the University of Kentucky, my first academic appointment, I had a relationship.
I dated and actually became engaged to a PhD student in psychology.
And every day she had to read the New York Times cover to cover.
She hung on every word.
She was very smart, highly intellectual.
We had fabulous exchanges and conversations.
But I got to say, it was appalling to me then and far more so today that she was so committed to the times.
In any case, it has disgraced itself.
It has betrayed its legacy.
It should not be the American newspaper of record.
Far from it.
In fact, the American media have so betrayed their obligation toward truth and their responsibility toward accuracy and reporting.
I cannot think of a paper in America today that would deserve that accolade, though the Wall Street Journal continues its reputation for fine reporting as a matter separate and apart from its editorial board and their policies and opinions.
Your thoughts, Paul.
Well, Jim, I got to tell you, I'm fascinated by the fact that when you were a young man or a much younger man, that you had some sort of an awareness or, you know, you were dubious about the high esteem the New York Times was held in.
How did that come about, if you don't mind saying?
No, I'll just say I was just not convinced of its authenticity.
You may or may not know, but subsequently, when I wrote my first piece on conspiracy theories and thinking about conspiracy theories, JFK in 9-11, I asserted that conspiracies are as American as apple pie.
And I used this in illustration of then current edition of the New York Times and went through and pointed out on every single page.
There was story after story you could not understand if you didn't recognize it involved conspiracies.
I mean, it was just staggering.
And that was my very first piece, you know, about trying to get a framework, an intellectual handle on conspiracy theories.
Otherwise, I cannot say, just, you know, general reluctance to be dependent on a sole source.
But her addiction was just absolutely thoroughgoing.
I mean, it was.
Well, sure.
I mean, in other words, it's part of the indoctrination.
And there's certain things that we're told, you know, that, you know, have a flagship status, right?
The New York Times, the Washington Post, the New York Yankees.
I mean, and it's, it's, again, when your mind is not fully developed and you haven't lived enough life and/or been exposed to alternative sources of information and explanation, then you tend to gravitate towards what is conventionally regarded as, you know, what, unreproachable, really, in many ways.
For some people, I think that would not be too strong of a word.
But of course, you and I, you've done great work on the New York Times.
David Duke has done phenomenal work.
I remember when I first read one of his two books, Jewish Supremacism.
Bye, Paul.
We got a break.
We'll be right back with Paul from California.
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Here's a video about the untouchable master race controlling you.
So let's bring him in now.
Here he is.
Good morning, Godfrey Bloom.
How are you?
I'm very well, thank you.
A little bit hot here at the moment.
It is a bit hot, aren't you?
For those who don't know, why ever not?
Godfrey is a former MEP, a former banker.
He's a military speaker.
He's a military lecturer.
He's a political commentator.
He's many things and he's very popular around here.
And God has, you've been watching developments on the world stage regarding Israel, Palestine, and Iran.
And you have much to say, not only about the origin of the conflict, but where we are at this moment in time.
And you can feel free to start off wherever you feel most comfortable because you're that kind of guest that I trust you to direct your own course.
Where would you like to start on this?
Well, I thought I'd like to start a little bit anecdotally, if I may.
I'd like to take the state, the United States of Wyoming, which, as you know, is a very rural state.
It's a sort of cowboy state, and I know it reasonably well.
And there was a republic, I wasn't at the rally, but I heard it from a very reliable source.
That going back about two or three years now, there was a Republican rally, and somebody stood up from the floor and asked what I thought was an extremely reasonable question, which was, why does the United States have to follow absolutely every piece of foreign policy which is laid out by Israel?
Which I thought was a very reasonable question.
He was quickly frog marched out of the room for being anti-Semitic.
So he had to leave.
I made some observations about a Jewish bank about five years, four years ago, and its politicization.
And it was very, very mild.
It was very mild.
I got hate emails from all over the world, thousands.
It was quoted out of context completely by a magazine, The New Statesman, so on and so forth.
People will not understand just how impossible it is to criticize Zionism.
It is impossible.
Because, first of all, they run legacy media.
They run banks, all the massive banks.
They run Black Rock, which is the biggest investment company in the world.
So they run everything.
And you cannot say anything without the world and his wife coming down on you for being anti-Semitic.
Now, let me just explain a little about being anti-Semitic.
Zionism is not the same as Judaism.
So Zionists, broadly speaking, are relatively secular.
They believe in Israel as a state, as an Israeli state.
It's not, these people are not very nice people, as it's been proved by the genocide in Gaza.
They are evil people.
They are not even endemic to that part of the world, the Middle East, or what was historically potentially Israel or Israelite, if you will.
They've all changed their name.
Netanyahu, whose name is not Netanyahu at all, no prime ministers of Israel have kept their name.
They've tried to Middle Easternize it, if that isn't a funny word.
I've just got, excuse me, going down here.
Netanayu is a Pole.
He's Polish.
His real name is Milazovsky.
And you could go back to all the Israeli prime ministers since the 1948.
They've all changed their name to make it sound they're inventing their own history.
They're inventing it in much the same way that one might argue that Sir Walter Scott invented a lot of Scottish history in a very romantic and rather nice way.
But a lot of it's conjecture, so on and so forth.
And if you go back 5,000 years, which the Zionists like to do, you'll find that genetically they are Canaanites, if you go right back.
Right.
There you go.
You've got all sorts of different kinds of Jews.
You've got Ashkenazi Jews.
You have Orthodox Jews.
So on and so forth.
So out of this tribe comes many sub-tribes and they don't agree with each other.
So one of the biggest spokesmen at the moment at the America, as your viewers probably know, and as you probably know, is Max Blumenthal.
Now, he's Jewish and is absolutely horrified about what's going on in Gaza.
So what we need to do is get away from this silly business about anti-Semitic.
Yes.
Palestinians themselves are Semitic.
They are Semitic.
Exactly that.
Exactly that.
I want to take you back a little bit, actually, because exactly that, I think the world has changed like literally this weekend.
It's insane.
What you're saying about how they came after you a few years ago when you were speaking out, the world appears to have suddenly woken up.
And people are actually very openly saying Judaism is not Zionism.
Do not conflate the two.
In fact, actually doing that has been proven to be anti-Semitic in its own right.
So let's go back, Goddess, because your understanding of history is finer than mine.
And first of all, Professor David Miller in the UK, he proved that holding anti-Zionism views are worthy of respect in a democratic society.
So we are allowed to criticize Zionism in the UK, even if, as you say, our media is captured, our bankers are captured, our government is captured, they're all captured, but things are changing.
So take us back to who were the original Seamites and why are they really more entitled to Israel slash Palestine than the American and European settlers?
Well, nobody is entitled to anything if you're going back for thousands and thousands of years.
So let's take an example.
If you go back and look at DNA, modern DNA techniques, you'll find that there is no serious claim to what is modern day Israel than anybody else, which is why, of course, it's interesting, is it not, that DNA investigation is illegal in Israel, because it would disprove the whole invented game.
So they've invented this ridiculous story that 5,000 years ago that they are entitled to be able to behave in the manner which they're behaving in Gaza.
And it's expansionist.
And the Zionists are very expansionist.
We can see from the size, from going from the idea of the Balfour Declaration, which was instigated by A.J. Balfour and of course Rothschild, one of the major bankers.
And because if you read that declaration, which nobody seems to be bothered to do, including the students at Cambridge University who desecrated a statue there, if you actually read the declaration, it was very, very implicit and clear that it did not mean the displacement of anybody else who was living in that part of the world.
It did not give them any form of priority.
And if you look at the clips or what film clips there are in the 1920s and 1930s, you had Arabs, Islamist Arabs, Arab Jews, Palestinian Jews, and Palestinian Christians, all getting on perfectly well together.
And it was the same in Baghdad, incidentally.
If you see the clips from the late 1950s, everybody getting on very well together and Damascus.
Now, these things are now stirred up.
Nearly everything you track everything down, you track it down to the United States, the industrial military complex, and these very, very bad men who want permanent war.
And it's permanent war.
It doesn't matter whether it's Iraq, the Ukraine, Israel.
So it goes on and so it goes on.
These very bad people.
And of course, at the root of this is money.
And of course, you never quite know whether the tail is wagging the dog.
It seems to me that Americans will do whatever the Jewish lobby wants.
And of course, you're dealing with a group of people internationally who control so much.
So you're looking at the control of Hollywood.
You're looking at the control of banking.
You're looking at the control of politics.
The entire United States Senate is owned by friends of Israel.
I mean, it's owned and they pay and they pay.
And it's the same, of course, with our parliament.
And at the end of the day, it's all about money.
And money talks louder than anything else.
And you make the observation about Rupert Lowe, who I'm afraid I was a bit of a fan of up until about two weeks ago.
He goes, he's like just like the bloody rest.
And you can bet your bottom dollar, it'll be money because they're the ones that control the money.
And this is the problem that you have.
And they can buy influence.
And if they've owned the banks, they own legacy media and they own everything else, even though they are very few in number, they can control everything.
And of course, if most people, unlike your subscribers who watch, who are very much more informed and more intelligent than most, as indeed I would suggest mine are on my channel, your average person who sits in his parlour watching BBC Sky or Channel 4 only knows what he's told by people who are in the pay.
Now, what I think is interesting, what I think is interesting at the moment is that seems to me to be a bit of a change, Because if you look now at the younger Jews in America, for example, are beginning to come out against the barbarity of the Israeli, the IDF, who are very, very nasty people.
They have, why aren't we allowed to, why isn't the, why aren't we allowed to investigate the conditions in Israeli prisons where thousands of Palestinians are kept?
They have a concentration camp.
There's no point in calling it anything else a concentration camp in Gaza.
We're not an attractive.
They've killed scores of journalists who've been trying to find out the truth in Gaza.
They've even killed people trying to bring relief in food and medicine supplies.
These people are very bad people.
And so why one asks themselves, when if you look at the concept of Zionism, Zionism is God's chosen people, that they are chosen people.
And that's what the Zionists believe.
They actually believe in a master race.
Where did we hear that before?
Right.
Cameron and Boris Johnson claim to be Zionists.
Why would they do that?
Do they not understand the concept of a master race?
And that's what it's all about.
They understand perfectly.
Paul, I think you would agree, as do I, with every word of that.
Yes, your thoughts about it.
And I do believe there are changing attitudes that the Israelis have committed a form of political suicide by the slaughter of the Palestinians, which everyone recognizes to be taking place and holding Israel accountable as having disgraced itself in the eyes of the world.
And sad to say, the United States as well for supporting and aiding it.
Your thoughts.
Well, first of all, I don't know about you, but I've always enjoyed a nice British accent, something about it.
And of course, you know, they hit all the nails on the heads the same way that I've been doing and many other people have been doing on Revolution Radio and RBN and now FTJ for a long time.
More and more people are starting to realize exactly what the reality of the world is.
And nobody, of course, is anti-Semitic for doing it.
We're just observing.
He did make an interesting statement, which I'll comment on briefly.
He talked about that they're not entitled.
He actually said nobody's entitled to anything.
And of course, this is the part of national socialist thinking that has people that, well, essentially, we've been propagandized to believe by the usual suspects, the people that control our minds, that that's a bad thing to recognize, right?
That in reality, that force in nature is the ultimate arbiter.
And of course, nothing could be clearer from looking at the history of man and the societies and cultures and nations that he forms, that in the end, force is the arbiter of exactly what your reality is going to be in terms of a group.
And so, you know, it's just it's clear, but of course, you know, you couldn't actually have that as the basis for nationalism because a certain tribe would be quite uncomfortable with that, even though that's exactly what they're doing over there in Palestine.
Okay.
And a part of this starts with a recognition that we do have to identify people by group or by race.
So just briefly, a super simple example, but it's not the Swedes that own and control our media and have all these government posts and own our banking, and they're not getting us to funnel a major part of our wealth to Sweden so that Sweden can commit genocide on Estonia, you know, that sort of a thing.
No, it is what it is.
And I think that it's really not going to change until, in my opinion, there is some sort of forceful or perhaps, you know, violent reaction to these people and their presence here.
Otherwise, the term that you just used, political suicide, it's just, again, it's a concept.
It's a thought exercise.
These people are in control and they're not giving up their control.
They're not going to walk away from it and they won't be shamed from it because that just doesn't work with them.
State of the Nation published a lot of really sensational stuff.
Here's one from July 31st, 2025.
That would be yesterday.
The Zionist-created Schofield Bible, the source of the problem in the Middle East by C.E. Carlson.
The French author, Alexis de Tocqueville, wrote democracy in America when he traveled here in the first third of the 19th century in ringing tones.
He sang the praise of America's in vulnerable strength and spirit.
He attributed its greatness to its citizen sense of morality, even with the abundant church attendance he observed in America.
De Tocqueville wrote in French and is credited with the familiar quote, America is great because she is good.
And if America ever sees it to be good, she will cease to be great.
The Talkville could see the power of America, but he could not have known in 1830 that she was soon to be under an attack aimed at its churches and the very sense of morality that he extolled.
First, there was a war between the states, which scarred the powerful young nation in its traveling youth.
A worse attack on America was to commence near the turn of the 20th century.
This was the onset of an attack on American Christianity that continues unabated against the traditional Christ-following church.
This attack, which author Gordon Din calls The final aposty began with a small, very wealthy and determined European political movement.
It had a dream, and the American churches stood in its way.
The World Zionist movement, as its Jewish founders called themselves, had plans to acquire a homeland for all Jews worldwide, even though most were far from homeless, and they did not want another home.
Not any land would do.
World Zionists want a specific property that American Christians call the Holy Land.
But if these Zionists read democracy in America or any of the journals of any of America's churches, which no doubt they did, they could not help but know that Jerusalem was not theirs to have.
As self-proclaimed Jews, they were.
According to the Christian New Testament, the persecutors of Christ and most of his early followers and the engineers of his crucifixion.
American traditional churches in the 19th century would never stand for a Jewish occupation of Jesus' homeland.
World Zionist leaders initiated a program to change America and its religious orientation.
One of the tools used to accomplish his goal was an obscure and malleable Civil War veteran named Cyrus L. Schofield.
A much larger tool was a venerable, world-respected European book publisher, the Oxford University Press.
The scheme was to alter the Christian view of Zionism by creating and promoting a bro-Zionist subculture within Christianity.
Schofield's role was to rewrite the King James Version of the Bible by inserting Zionist-friendly notes in the margin between verses and chapters.
And on the bottom of the pages, the Oxford University Press used Schofield, a pastor by then, as the editor, probably because it needed such a man for a front.
The revised Bible was called the Schofield Reference Bible.
And with limitless advertising and promotion, it became a best-selling Bible in Americanism over 90 years.
Paul, this was propaganda genius right there, an inspired effort.
I compare it to the success of the Mostad Epstein blackmail sex, child sex trafficking, completely successful, in fact, on a more profound scale, because it led to the emergence of Christian Zionism.
Even though anyone who properly understands the nature of Zionism, it calls for the extinction of all Christians from the face of earth.
Your thoughts.
Yeah, well, there you go.
I mean, there's no doubt that these people are good at what they do, and they're doing essentially what I alluded to earlier, which is that they're only entitled to what you can acquire by whatever means necessary, including force.
I mean, when you think about, you know, the United States and you learned your history, right?
We started with just 13 colonies and we expanded westward and, you know, we called it manifest destiny.
But in the end, it's essentially whatever it is you can take or keep by, in the end, force, you're entitled to.
And of course, changing the Schofield Bible has been discussed by, or changing the Bible.
In other words, issuing the Schofield Bible has been discussed on many, many a show.
I'm not as much of a familiar with it or an expert as some are.
I've heard most of the commentary, like what you just talked about there.
And of course, it was a brilliant strategic move in many ways because you're going to win over the minds or the hearts and minds of a lot, a large section of the population that actually believes in this Abrahamic religion of Christianity and Jesus.
I know that you're dubious about it, and so am I. I think there's far too much information out there that many aspects of Jesus's, shall we say, life, if it indeed existed, are a fabrication.
And I think in many ways, Christianity, although it's been good as a cultural software, I think that it's been detrimental to our long-term racial and national best interest because essentially it has allowed these people to run roughshod over us.
And of course, they're using our treasury to fund their aims in the Middle East, which I think most Americans would be quite opposed to if we were to have any control over the purse strings.
Paul, I'm concerned because I want to show some images.
Are you able to see their screen or not see their screen?
Well, I've seen, except for the one that you put up, I can see the screen.
The last video that you showed, I saw the screen and the State of the Nation article that you read.
I saw that screen.
Okay, good.
Excellent.
Because I want to get your opinions about the hypothesis.
The state of the nation, which published at least on the Schofield Bible, has been doing brilliant work, in my opinion.
They've gone back and forth over the current occupant of the White House and his previous incarnation or so with Zeeman found many, many discrepancies where they believe forensic evidence is emerging that may prove Trump was replaced.
I'll tell you what, I'm familiar with this article.
Would you scroll down a little bit?
I want to see a photo where there's three pictures right next to each other.
There you go.
I believe that's what stopped Right there, yes, right there.
I believe you're looking at three different people.
Yes, so do I. Not two, three, yeah, not two, but three.
Yes, bizarre.
This is a strange world we're living in.
Oh, I know.
So, here you got who appears to be the real Donald Trump with Ivana, his first wife, a mother of Ivanka.
Here you see a second Trump marrying Marla Maples.
And here you see the third president incarnation with Melania, whom I regard as the most beautiful of the three.
Ivana is really not attractive, in my opinion.
You like Melania's look.
She looks very, she looks a little too Eastern for me.
And I think that she has a distinctly Jewish look to her, but go on.
Interesting.
Of course, I think Ivanka, the daughter, is quite sensational looking.
Oh, yeah, no doubt about that.
Ivana, I never cared for her at all.
Marla Maples, I think, is a bit of an acquired taste, but we're really talking about the difference in the men that appear to be three different persons.
And I'm glad to hear you say you have drawn the same conclusion, Paul, because that's rather fundamental to what I want to now ask about how could this have come about?
You know, what are we dealing with here?
Why would Trump have been replaced?
When they went back and looked at all these various videos to conclude that there are too many differences, I went back and looked at Trump with Letterman.
And he was tall, about 6'3, same as Letterman, very gracious, soft-spoken, highly intelligent, and very articulate and witty.
I was very impressed with the original Donald.
Not so much the guy today, Paul.
I'm going to take a little different tack on that.
Because you said that, I went back and I watched several videos of Trump on Letterman and other appearances that are available.
There's also a really good one we could play a clip of if you wanted an interview with Barbara Walters, where she really seems to nail him.
And apparently he held a grudge against her for a long time after that.
But here's what I saw.
So the actor that's playing or that has been playing Donald Trump, again, this new Donald Trump the last few couple of months is, you know, I don't know this guy, but we all know what Donald Trump has been like at all those rallies, what he was like in the campaign and also in 2016.
And when I see those clips, I see the same facial expression.
I see the same tone.
I see the same way that the way that he punctuates his speech.
So if this new Donald Trump today is an imposter, he has got it down.
In other words, he studied the speech patterns and he's mimicking the voice.
It could very well be the same guy.
In other words, maybe all this weight that Donald Trump has on now and all this time that has gone by.
I know, believe me, I've looked at the years.
Again, when we agree on the fact that it looks like three different guys, you know, that's taken into account the first two on the left, the two so-called younger versions of Trump, they do look very, very different, in my opinion.
But I believe that you could, you know, with enough weight and enough change in diet and who else knows, have, you know, the Donald Trump today be the one in the middle picture.
Again, it's not that much of a stretch because what I found interesting, if you really do look at the way Donald Trump speaks now versus the way that Donald, Donald Trump spoke on those Letterman appearances, the way that he speaks, again, the pattern, the intonation, the facial expressions, the way, like I said, that he punctuates his speech.
It's exactly the same to my ear.
I'm a little baffled that we didn't get the break.
I'm going to have to see if I can figure out.
Yeah, 10.30 right now.
What's going on here?
Yeah.
We should have had the stream.
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you you you Paul, I want to proceed on the basis of the tentative conclusion that we're talking about different people and how that could have come about.
And I, you know, this is all in a tentative and fallible fashion of science.
When you acquire new evidence or alternative hypotheses, you may have to reject hypotheses you previously accepted, except hypotheses you previously rejected and leave others in suspense.
Turn out if you use a Wayback Machine.
It turns out to be a report from 27 October 2019.
Donald Jay passed away in 1989.
Three Trump doubles worked for the Trump organization on October 10th, 1989.
Donald J. Trump was killed in a helicopter crash.
After the crash, the three doubles or doppelgangers continued working for the Trump double-cross organization.
Nothing happens by chance in politics.
That, of course, was the observation of FDR.
In 2015, when the British Secret Service noticed that Beau Francis was secretly spending Peter's millions to finance the presidential campaign of Hillary Digby Churchill Clinton, they mobilized their Trump organization to stop her seizing the White House for a second time.
Presumably the first was Bill Clinton's administration.
The crash occurred in broad daylight around 1:40 p.m.
A lone camper on the ground heard a big bang overhead.
As he looked skyward, he saw the helicopter break apart in midair.
Three casino executives and Donald Jay boarded in an Augusta A 109 chopper around 1 p.m.
At about 1:40 within 30 miles of Atlantic City, the helicopter broke apart in midair.
That downfall caused the instant deaths of Donald Jay and the three casino executives.
We have a photograph on the left, the remains of Donald J. Trump carried by New Jersey State Police.
On the right, the remains of a casino executive carried from the crash site.
Now, going back in time, construction of the 68-story Trump Tower began in June 1980.
It was completed by October 1983.
When the tower was completed, the real Donald J. Trump had a spectacular view of Central Park from his apartment.
However, there was a real eyesore in the park, namely a broken down ice skating rink, which the city seemed unable to fix.
By that time, Donald had three children, and he watched in dismay as the city could not fix the Woolman Rink.
And on the left, you got a photo of Trump Tower completed in October 1983 on the rhythm, the spectacular view of Central Park and Woolman Rink from the Trump Tower.
Here's a quote from the autobiography of the real Donald J. Trump.
From my new apartment, I had a view of Woolman Rink.
It was not a pretty sight.
Although millions of dollars had already been spent on its renovation, it was obvious, even from a distance, that the rink was nowhere near finished.
Three more years passed.
Millions more dollars were spent, and things just got worse.
So bad that, in fact, on this May morning in 1986, the city felt compelled to announce it was starting the whole bidding process over again from the art of the deal, pages 199 to 200.
Initially, Trump approached the commissioner of parks and offered to complete the renovation of the rink at his own expense.
The offer was summarily rejected.
In desperation, he decided to write a letter to Mayor Koch.
In 1989, Babylon the Great was ruled by his eminence and his honor.
In the beginning of the ice capades, John O'Connor was appointed Archbishop of Babylon the Great by Pope John Paul II.
From his headquarters in the powerhouse, St. Patrick's Cathedral, Cardinal O'Connor ruled Babylon on the Hudson.
He was the mentor and spiritual advisor to Mayor Koch.
Mayor Koch was virtual dictator of New York City from 1978 to 1989.
He ran the city with an iron fist, and people who crossed him usually ended up with cement shoes in the East River.
And on the left, we got a photo of Cardinal O'Connor, 1920 to 2000, Cardinal from 83 to 2000.
On the right, Edward Koch, 1924 to 2013, Mayor of New York City from 79 to 89.
During the Koch administration, corruption was as high as the demolished Twin Towers.
However, Donald Trump had no direct dealing with the mayor until he decided to fix the Woolman rink.
The real Donald Trump had no dealing with the powerhouse, even though Trump Tower is located on Fifth Avenue, Commonwealth Avenue.
Relations between the Donald and the Stonewaller remain cordial and only turned icy in 1986.
So here you got his eminence in his honor on the left.
On the right, Donald Trump, Mayor Koch, and Roy Cohen at the opening of Trump Tower October 1983.
As a father of the Stonewall homosexual revolution, Mayor Koch maintained an apartment in Greenwich Village.
The spark that ignited the worldwide homosexual revolution began in Greenwich Village in June 1969.
Mayor Ghosh is the unacknowledged father of that revolution.
Koch kept an apartment in Greenwich Village to be close to the action at the Stonewall Inn.
And on the left, you have a photograph of the building where he maintained an apartment in Greenwich Village on the right, the Stonewall Inn, the birthplace of the last days homosexual revolution.
Koch hated any kind of negative publicity, and nobody dared mention the fact that he was a driving force behind the stonewallers in the city and nation.
When Koch received a letter from Donald Trump, he actually treated his offer with contempt.
Here's Trump writing.
I sent the letter to Ed Koch on May 28, 1986.
He wrote me a response by return mail.
Somewhat to my surprise, he belittled my offer.
The city wasn't about to let me operate the rink, he said, but they'd be delighted if I donate the $3 million to rebuild it and supervise the construction.
He made a few more sarcastic comments and ended by saying, with bated breath, I await your response, or to the deal, page 201.
After he received the letter, Coach leaked it to the press, believing they too would ridicule Donald for making such an outrageous offer.
The exact opposite happened.
To the great dismay of Coach, the press side with Donald, and the bet Melissa forced him to give it and let Trump renovate the rink.
Trump finished the rink in record time and thousands of dollars under budget.
The opening on November 1st was a gala event with Trump, the star of the show.
And here you got a photo on the left of the ribbon cutting for the Woolman rink with celebrity skaters November 1st, 1986 on the right.
I had me Donald and Father Fred at the opening of the Wolman skating rink.
Even though it was a great victory for Trump and New Yorkers, Mayor Coach became his avowed enemy.
Here is his description of Donald Trump fit to print.
I'll begin with Donald Trump.
What a supreme egotistical lightweight.
This was clear to me from our first meeting.
To be fair, he did build some high-quality buildings, but he was such a blowhard.
The best comment I ever heard about Trump came from Alaira Townsend, my deputy mayor for economic development, who said she couldn't believe Donald Trump if his tongue was notarized.
I think the line itself was not original to her, but she found its perfect target.
I thought it was rather disingenuous of Trump to crow that he single-handedly resurrected the ice cane rink at Central Park in a miraculous way from his book, Citizen Coach, page 193.
In the autobiography published in 1992, Coach referred to Trump in the past tense and accused him of trying to name the renovated rink after himself.
If Trump was alive, he would have sued Coach for libel and won.
During the press conference, the Trump Sidorsky helicopter was switched for an Augusta.
On October 10th, 1989, three of the top Trump executives in Atlantic City made a trip via Trump-Air Sikorsky S-76 chopper to New York City for a brief press conference.
They landed at the East 61st Airport and were taken via limo to the Plaza Hotel.
The press conference was held to promote a boxing match that night between Hector Macho Man Camacho and Vinnie Pazinza.
Donald Trump was to accompany them back on the helicopter because his presence there would guarantee a full house.
After the news conference at the plaza, the trio had launched and then returned with Donald to the Hilleport, only to discover their chopper had been replaced by an Italian-made Augusta.
The three Trump Casino exec left Atlantic City about 8 a.m., riding in a Trump-air Sikorsky S-76 helicopter.
When they returned from the press conference at the plaza, the Sikorsky was gone to be replaced by an Augusta A-109.
The three executives and Donald Trump were on that helicopter when it crashed.
And we have a photo of the Sikorsky on the left and of the Augusta on the right.
The Italian-made Augusta was a Ferrari of helicopters and definitely not like a fiat.
Fix it again, Tony.
The company was founded in 1923 by Count Augusta and did not have a history of fatal crashes.
Every biography of Trump has a different story about the helicopter crash.
Here's one from Hurt Lost Caught Tycoon, page 40.
But Donald does not seem to care what appointments his gaming division executives have in the afternoon.
Rather than bid the trio farewell, he insists on summoning them to an unscheduled meeting in Trump Tower.
By the time the meeting commemorates, it's already too late for the three gaming exec to catch their noon return flight in the Trump Sikorsky S-76.
They charted that morning.
After the meeting, Trump and the three execs headed for the Eastside Heliport, which is about 15 minutes by car from Trump Tower.
The official account of the helicopter crash is pure fiction.
The three executives were delayed, and their helicopter took off without them.
Then they shopped around and found an Italian-made Augusta.
Finally replacement happened so quickly the trio were airborne by one.
And here you got photographs of the other executives, Stephen Hyde, 1946 to 1989, Mark Grossinger Ellis, 1951 to 1989, Jonathan Benavev, 1956-1989, and of course, Donald J. Trump, 1946 to 1989.
The Trump organization had a French maiden Super Booma chopper, but the executive decided not to use it because it was a gas gozler.
Helicopter pilot Robert Kent and co-pilot Lawrence Denier also perished in the crash.
According to a biography of the resurrected Trump, he decided at the last minute to cancel his trip.
The resurrected Donald credits that decision with saving his life.
Here's a quote from the resurrected Donald Trump.
For an instance, as they were walking out, I thought of going with them.
I fly down to Atlantic City at least once a week, and I know that if I made the 45-minute helicopter trip then, we would continue talking business on the way.
But there was just too much to do in the office that day.
As quickly as the idea popped into my mind, I decided not to go.
Instead, I said goodbye, went back to reading reports and making phone calls.
Surviving at the top, page 1718.
The resurrected Donald mentioned nothing about his fear of flying in an Italian-made Augusta helicopter.
The first book written about the Trump crash was published in 1990.
That dobblegammer mentioned nothing about the three executives missing their helicopter ride back to Atlantic City.
He did mention that the Trump organization was suing the Augusta company for millions.
And we got a photo of the crash site in New Jersey on one side and of the book surviving at the top, the first Trump book written after the crash.
Having a foreign helicopter fall from the sky was much more convenient for the killers.
The helicopter, those men were on, should never have been allowed to fly as it turned out the rotors had split apart in mid-air.
We are now in court with Augusta.
The aircraft's Italian manufacturer, we expected to make them pay dearly from surviving at the top, age 19.
As it turns out, the Augusta was just as reliable as the Sigorsky, but that foreign firm could not demand an investigation like the Sikorsky company after the crash.
The Trump organization finances were in free fall, and Wall Street Bonnet were predicting that the entire company would go into Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
What saved the Trump organization was a huge infusion of cash from the recently united German Deutsche Bank.
Now, there's more to it, Paul, but I've been entertaining the conjecture, and I admit it's a conjecture, that the mayor, who's on her, may have taken this occasion to retaliate against the lightweight he held in contempt, Donald Trump.
Now, if I'm right about this, they felt the company felt it was so vital to maintain the Trump brand that if his death were announced, that the value of all the Trump properties and casinos would dwindle, drop like a stone.
So they wanted to preserve for business reasons the image that he was still alive and well and had somehow made the fortuitous decision not to fly back with the three execs.
I'm just interested in your thoughts about all of this.
Absolutely fascinating.
I've only heard you talk about this.
I've not seen that article.
So that's reformation.org.
Is that where that's from?
Let me see.
Yes, reformation.org slash Donald J passed away in 1989, HTML.
Okay, so go ahead and send me that link after the show, if you would, please, and anything else on that exact topic as well.
So I'm open to it.
It's amazing.
I just wonder about, is there a way to verify some of the particular facts that would make it all fit together?
But what this reminds me of is one of the papers that Mathis wrote.
Interesting.
I wonder if Mathis has ever looked into this or wrote a paper about it, but his paper about John Lennon is similar.
It's quite lengthy and very, very definitive, in my opinion.
You just take the circumstances that we've all been told, and then you start to break them down and dissect them.
And then, of course, all sorts of photographs and other such things that are subject to be analyzed.
So this is interesting.
I find it plausible because when you do have a very large and powerful, quote, organization, there are going to be people that have a stake in preserving and protecting it.
And who knows, maybe the way these people do things, in other words, the people that are in charge of the stage production that we call United States politics, United States news, maybe they had a role in mind for Trump later on because we all have seen these videos and heard about what they call the subliminal messages or the what's the term they call it?
The pre-programming for events in the future, like 9-11, for example, and television shows and so forth.
Programming.
Say again?
Addictive programming.
Right.
Thank you very much.
Predictive programming.
Right.
In other words, these are long-term planners.
So, yeah, we very well could be looking at something like this being a reality, which is, I don't know, I find it absolutely astounding, to be honest.
Well, when you combine it, you see, with the evidence, which I take to be overwhelming, that we're not dealing with the same guy, notwithstanding your suggestion that maybe, maybe, maybe it is the same guy.
I'm inclined to think, no, it in fact isn't.
And I've done a lot of this comparison between the original James Paul McCartney, for example, and Billy Shears, who replaced him.
Right.
The body doubles.
And of course, we had a walking cadaver in the White House for four years that bore no resemblance whatsoever to the real Joe Biden.
What's interesting to me of all this, you know, just thinking from a human point of view, in other words, you and me and others like us just walking around living our lives is the logistics of this.
In other words, how would the search begin?
Obviously, they didn't plan for him to die.
In other words, perhaps maybe Edward Cox did that, that faggot.
Okay.
But, you know, what do you run an ad?
You know, do you drive around looking for people that look like him and go, hey, hey, buddy, you want a long-term job with financial security?
I mean, no.
Paul, remember, he already had three body doubles.
Is that so?
Yeah, that was right off the top of the story.
That was how they began.
You know what?
You did say that.
I did catch that.
So my bad.
But still, the thought occurred to me.
they already had the guys they already had the guys around so i mean this is all fascinating i'm glad you're open-minded about it very why would trump have had body doubles at that time he wasn't a politician oh for security purposes maybe so if he had to be in two places at the same time he could be in two places at the same time i i think there were a variety of reasons But this is this is there this is no doubt about this is verifiable he had body button doubles.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
I even noticed of late that he had one that had silver hair.
I mean, it was very clear to me this was a body double.
I'm just talking about in the last year or two.
Yeah.
So, for example, then some of his children then would have been fathered by the double.
Is that how that would work?
Well, this is a good question, Paul, to put together.
When were they all born in relation to if he actually died in 1989?
Right.
When was Ivanka born?
I'd love to know.
Because although we're not going into it here, State of the Nation has also had the gone halves to talk about there's something wrong with his relationship with Ivanka because she's constantly sitting on his lap.
He's got his arms around her.
They're even on a bed.
It's as though they were coddling.
I mean, it's very strange.
And as the father of both a son by my first marriage and a daughter by my second, I look at this and I say this is not appropriate.
And they have a whole article about it.
Before we conclude today, and I'm extremely pleased with all your comment, Paul.
We had a clip about NASA, you know, supposed to be leaving the moon.
It's on X. And the comment is, you know, if you actually believe this is real, you're somehow lost in space because the whole moon landing was so fraudulent.
And it's an excellent clip.
I want to mention that I'm doing a course, a college-level course called Conspiracy 101, Critical Thinking and Conspiracy Theories.
It's going to be very comprehensive, a 15-week course, begins on the 3rd of September, Wednesday evening.
Introduction to the nature of thought, signs and minds, 10 September, Wednesday, studying language, syntax, semantics, and pragmatics.
Following weeks, arguments, deductive, inductive, and abductive kinds, informal fallacy, bar one, fallacies of ambiguity, and formal fallacy, bar two, fallacies of relevance, applying scientific reasoning to conspiracy theories, the assassinating JFK, the use of fabricated evidence, the atrocities of 9-11, violating the laws of physics, the moon landing, how we know we didn't go.
Then there's a winter break, and then Senator Paul Wellstone, Minnesota, accident or assassination, Sandy Hook, designing events for emotional impact, Nice, Orlando, Barclays, Charlottesville, Las Vegas, Pizzagate, is it myth or is it real?
Disturbing to the max.
And finally, oh, the pandemic and the VAC, the greatest hoax of all.
And finally, with the World War II official narrative, historical fact or mass illusion.
I want everyone to know it's out there.
I'd love to have you come and participate in the course from the comfort of your own home.
It's done by Zoom.
Comforty, your computer.
Don't have to live the house.
And the classes are seven to nine Central, eight to ten Eastern, five to seven Pacific.
Paul, I'd love to have you there too, my friend.
Were you so disposed?
I just want to thank you, Paul, for just the excellence of your comments today.
I'm so very glad we could connect.
Well, thank you, Kenny, for that.
Again, I've always maintained the notion that I just shoot from the hip and I don't know how much new and relevant commentary I bring to the table, but I have always respected your work and your effort.
And I find a lot of the stuff that you get into to be quite fascinating to me as well.
So my pleasure, my friend.
Well, this thing about Trump is truly, truly extraordinary, Paul.
Truly extraordinary.
And as I say, if we went all the way back to the beginning of the article about his death, it begins by pointing out that he had three body doubles.
Here it is.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, it's interesting is Chicago Brew is familiar with this too.
I don't know if he's looked at it extensively like we just did here, but we were talking about that the other night on a telephone call.
And he brought up the issue of, well, okay, if this is so, I mean, what's going on with all his kids?
I mean, his kids got to know, you know, not the real Donald Trump.
So are they just all pretending?
Well, why now?
This is my new dad.
I mean, it's amazing when you think about it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, look, Jill Biden, Hunter, Biden, all the leading politicians in Washington knew this wasn't the real Joe Biden.
And for four years, it was not called out in the mainstream press.
I mean, it's just astonishing how much we're being pulled, played right out there in front of God and everybody.
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