The Raw Deal (16 April 2025) w/ Russ Winter, Joachim Hagopian & Bill Bonitati
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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B. The 16th day of April, 2025.
Joined by Russ Winner and Joaquin Agopian for a fearsome threesome addition.
We expect to be joined by a plus one Bill Bonitotti shortly.
I have a number of news reports that are highly disconcerting to share where I begin with a report I find almost unbelievable.
Jews have the religious right.
Wow, look at this.
It's been taken down.
According to the Israeli Supreme Court, Jews have a religious right to genocide.
I'm not surprised it's been taken down.
Look at that, you guys.
I mean, I was all set because this is such a huge story to make it.
A centerpiece of our conversation.
But we can do that even without having the story, because the headline says it all.
Jews have the religious right to genocide, in my opinion.
This makes Israel...
What's the source of that?
Well, I was going to play it for you.
Oh, you can't see?
Okay. You can't see it.
Russ, when I tried to show the video, it says it's no longer available.
So I've taken it down.
But in a way, I'm not surprised.
It must be YouTube.
It couldn't be BitChute.
BitChute allows anything.
Right. No, it is YouTube.
It is YouTube.
Joaquin, do you find this surprising?
Actually, I do not.
But to have it stated so baldly, your thoughts, Joaquin?
Well, the whole nation, and certainly the government, is so supremacist.
Jewish supremacy rules.
And so it's not surprising at all that they would excuse themselves from massacring a whole group of people and saying they have the right.
It doesn't surprise me.
Russ, would you find it surprising?
I know you asked for the source, but...
No, I think that it's basically genocide and a lot more Cheka operations, rounding people up, taking them away in the middle of the night.
I think that's coming, too.
We kind of talked about that on our last show.
So I'm kind of nervous in terms of that aspect of it.
You know, traveling in the United States, they sort of...
Order out that if you're a foreigner, a foreign national in the United States, you have to register after 30 days.
I don't even know what that means.
In other words, if you're a student or you're working or you're...
So it's just like registering foreigners.
And meanwhile, you have a big economic collapse going on because tourism is 9% of the GDP of the United States and it's fallen by about a third, about 20 to 30%.
There's hardly any bookings to come to the United States.
So it's just an oppression, a generalized oppression.
I mean, genocide is an extension of that.
I mean, where do you even begin?
There's all kinds of measures.
Yeah, you're talking about that ID program that apparently the Homeland Security Department is putting out that within, I don't know, maybe two months or some crap like that, you can't fly without this ID.
It's not going to go over with the people, that's for sure.
And it's another step closer to one world government, let's face it.
The whole...
Jewish supremacy thing is that they're going to be the rulers of a one-world government stationed in Jerusalem and that we are all slaves to them.
And so it's just one step closer.
All of this is one step closer because they are God's chosen people after all.
You know, it's the same bullshit.
Over and over.
And they have never been held accountable.
So they're so emboldened by the fact that they're able to get away with so much.
The foreign thing is like a carte blanche entry point.
So that's how they do it.
They sort of say, you know, we're going to start with quote-unquote foreigners.
First it's illegals.
And then they kind of go with illegals that are anti-Semites.
And then they go with, you know, not illegals that are anti-Semites.
Legals that are anti-Semites.
And now it's just foreigners in general.
So you see how they just kind of ratchet it up one step at a time?
The next step will be American citizens that are sort of difficult or problematic.
I'm sure that's true.
Well, Trump is already saying he's going to ship American citizens down to El Salvador prison.
He's already saying this.
Russell, could you go on Yandex and see if you can pull it up?
Jews have religious right to genocide, comma, says Israeli Supreme Court.
See if you can find it on Yandex, because, of course, Chrome, you know, is far less adequate than Yandex and has far more censorship, because I think this is definitely worth reviewing.
Our next story, by the way, while Russ searches, Trump and NetYahu plot causes future without Palestinians.
You know, this is his real estate mogul's mind, which reaches a bizarre state, in my opinion.
Trump and NetYahu plot causes future without Palestinians.
It's difficult to describe how deranged reality has become.
On Monday, The leader of the two government most responsible for a seemingly endless stream of horror, the U.S. and Israel, sat down for a press briefing in the Oval Office, casually discussing how valuable Gaza is to them,
and how they want to take it over and control it, as though they're not the ones primarily responsible for the massacres happening there.
We are witnessing the deliberate...
Annihilation of a people, while those carrying out pretend it's just an unfortunate natural disaster, some heavy sustained winds blowing through the area, they want us to believe they'll be the ones to bring peace and freedom to the land and people they're actively decimating,
as if to say, hey, just drink this and don't think about it too hard.
It'll all be over soon.
We're the good guys doing good things, and that's all you need to know.
And while they keep piling onto the body count, I think that's a wonderful critique of what's going on here.
Joaquin, what do you think?
Well, yeah.
I think that Jared Kushner, son-in-law to the president, his first reaction to the Gaza You know, the whole military onslaught by Israel,
he was the first thing that came out of his mouth.
Oh, what a nice opportunity.
He thinks just like his father-in-law.
After all, they both are Shabad Crip.
Members, you know, they're actually members of this Hasidic extremist group that is so ingrained with Jewish supremacism.
The first thing he thinks about is the real estate value of Gaza.
You know, I mean, it just boggles the mind that they are so inhumane and so self-arrogant about everything that they do and say.
It's like, you know, so, yeah, I mean, we have the Trump administration that goes right along with whatever Israel wants, they get.
What a crock!
This is just outrageous.
Trump just said, we don't have to buy Gaza, we're going to take it.
Now, since we're, you know, we're carefully documenting a lot of stuff on our show now, so I happen to have that clip, if you want to hear it, or I can play it later around the webs, where he just basically says...
Go ahead and play it.
Do you want me to get...
Yeah, go ahead and give me the share and I'll try to...
Yeah, I'll do it.
I'll make it...
Oh, staying on a sack, Russ.
Okay.
There you go.
Okay, I've got to go find...
I've got a lot of stuff this week.
Jesus, I've got a lot of stuff.
Big week.
Wow. Getting bigger every week.
Or is it?
is it?
Well, here's one.
Here's one negative view of Israel spiking in the U.S. Let's take a look at this story real quick.
Okay. Can you see the chart?
Can you see the chart okay?
Yeah, we can't see anything yet.
Did you find that Supreme Court video?
Yeah. Oh, good!
I don't know the source, but I got the video.
Good, good, good.
Yeah, go ahead and do the screen share.
Okay, here we go.
Good. Okay, well, yeah, I'll go to the other one.
Negative view of Israel spiking in U.S. So things really change.
Look at the change of total U.S. adults have a negative view of Israel, 53%.
I mean, look at the leaning Democrats.
They just really dislike Israel.
Almost tempts me to become a Democrat.
The leaning, I mean, basically the good news is that the boomers are dying off.
They're the only ones that really support Israel in the United States, the boomers among the Republicans.
And they're dying off, so I don't know what the future holds for Israel because they won't have any support.
The young people, as you can see, younger people, even among the Republicans, 50% of younger Republicans have a negative view of Israel.
Okay. All right, so let me switch over to the...
Can you see the other screen?
Yeah, play it.
Yeah, play it.
Jewish ISIS.
And I'll have proof of this.
You might have heard recently that there was a motion to the Israeli Supreme Court against the Israeli government to try and force them to allow aid into Gaza.
And the Israeli Supreme Court ruled against this, saying that, like, no, the government doesn't have to let aid into Gaza.
Let them die.
And part of the justification for this, which they use, is that they cited the Bible.
They cited the Bible and the fact that it gives Jews permission.
To starve and kill Amalek.
It's a decision that you would think would come out of an ISIS religious court, but in this case, it did not.
As you can see here, Judge David Mintz of the Israeli Supreme Court said that the biblical commandment to annihilate Amalek are grounds for rejecting international humanitarian law, distinction between civilians and military objectives in the legal system of the state of Israel.
This man cited...
Like, a biblical commandment telling Jews to entirely wipe out, like, the Amalekian people, which they call Palestinians in Israel, to justify Israel starving Palestinians legally.
Like, the legal system in Israel is ISIS.
This is literally, like, what the ISIS legal system would be like.
Like, them going to the Quran and being like, hmm.
You see, at this part, in this part, Muhammad led a war.
Therefore, we can kill anyone we want.
Done. Israel is ISIS.
Worse than ISIS, in fact, because it has achieved power and support and committed crimes on such a scale that just immensely outpaced anything that ISIS was ever able to do.
Israel is basically the wet dream of ISIS.
Fucking Supreme Court fighting the Bible.
They say this country is secular.
Ethan Klein is like...
Everyone here has equal rights.
There's no segregation.
There's no apartheid.
And literally, the Supreme Court is citing one religious group's interpretation of a religious book to justify starving the other group of people.
Israel, according to this guy, has free modalities for religiously mandated war, that is, to inherit the promised land, to destroy the people of Amalek, and to fend off aggressors.
So, I guess it's established now in Israeli law that...
You can go to war to destroy Amalek.
So just say that anyone you want is Amalek and you can do it.
Welcome to Jewish ISIS.
Israel is Jewish ISIS.
Done. That's wonderful.
Yeah, it's pretty well documented too.
So yeah, it's not just a nothing story.
I need you to send me that link if you would be so kind.
Very much.
I'll give you the share back.
You got it?
Okay. Yeah, I got it.
Yeah, and here we got Bill joining.
Excellent, Bill.
We're just telling a story that the Israeli Supreme Court has affirmed that Israel has a right to commit genocide.
Fairly stunning stuff.
Well, I think we're seeing who the real terrorists are.
They're not fooling anybody anymore.
Yeah, I mean, you'd think the world would be outraged at this prospect.
Absolutely stunning.
And then we're plotting Gaza's future without the Palestinians, Bill.
That's the other story we've been looking at.
More to come.
Here we have Whitcoff, says Iran.
Must eliminate its nuclear enrichment program, which is for peaceful use of nuclear energy.
I mean, this is just insane!
Steve Witkoff, President Trump's Middle East envoy, said in his statement Tuesday, Iran must eliminate its nuclear enrichment program, suggesting that Trump admin is hardening its position in negotiation with Iran.
Witkoff... Made the comments a day after appearing on Fox, suggesting the U.S. wanted Iran to reduce its levels of nuclear enrichment to 3.67 percent.
The enrichment level under the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, known as the JCPOA, Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, from which Trump withdrew in 2018.
Iran currently enriches some uranium to 20% and even 60%, still well below the 90% for weapons grade.
Whitcoff comments on Fox signal the U.S. was not demanding the full dismantlement of Iran's civilian nuclear program, which is believed to be a non-starter for Tehran, after strong backlash from Iran hogs.
Witkopf appeared to reverse his stance in the statement he released Tuesday.
A deal with Iran will only be complete if it is a Trump deal.
Any final arrangement must set a framework for peace, stability, and prosperity in the Middle East, meaning that Iran must stop and eliminate its nuclear enrichment and weaponization program, which we all know is non-existent.
There is no weaponization program in a statement.
The U.S. has become such liars, such monster liars, the whole world sees us as hypocrites, phonies, and frauds.
Unbelievable. Joaquin, your thoughts?
Well, the Iran foreign minister, Araqi, ended up saying, hey, it's a no-brainer that if the United States insists that Iran get rid of its...
peaceful energy nuclear program, then we have nothing to talk about.
It's going to be over before it even starts.
The US insists all nuclear program, whether it's military or not, has
I mean, they can't be dictating this.
It's legal to have what...
Apparently, Iran has.
And they're only just trying to get parity.
Even if they went military nuclear weapons, they're just trying to get parity so that they can stay alive in a war, it happens, with Israel.
I mean, it's all one-sided.
It's all bully and justifying.
The horror.
Well, Iran actually came back with a quid pro quo offer that if Israel had disbanded their nuclear weapons, then they would completely denuclearize, too.
Very good.
Very good.
Anybody have any thoughts of yours, Bill?
Yeah, all I can say is, guys, everything I've learned about history and current...
Military affairs, military industrial complex around the world, U.S., before that, you know, the British colony, colonizing U.S. It's always been misinformation, disinformation.
I'm highly skeptical, frankly, about a lot of these reports, but it's too much to dive into that now.
Let me just keep my skepticism, you know, and we can dive more into it in the future.
So let me just say, I...
Most of the we're here, in my opinion, about military operations, turns out, like the USS Eisenhower, that was never struck by the Hooties, for example.
One of the most recent ones, October 7th, we've digested that and broke that down on the raw deal.
So I don't know where the truth, the propaganda ends and the truth begins, you know?
So I'll just keep my...
Yeah, that's true.
Hard to know.
You do have to cover it, though.
You have to kind of examine the stuff.
Oh, Russ, I'm not discounting, dismissing, examining it, but I think in examining it, just like we do with any domestic false flag, which we'll be talking about later, we have to actually try and find corroborating evidence or not.
And then lack of, as Jim knows, in his great piece he does on inductive and deductive reasoning, lack of...
The evidence that should be there if the narrative were true is indicating that it hasn't happened.
October 7th is a great example.
But, you know, I just don't want to tie up what we're doing today.
The lack of evidence thing is an interesting concept.
Now, Bill's been talking to me about that.
We've had some long conversations.
And that really ties into a lot of stuff.
Lack of evidence.
You know, for instance, lack of evidence of anything hitting the Pentagon.
Lack of evidence of really anything.
You know, just on and on.
The Sandy Hook.
Lack of evidence.
Lack of evidence.
No, you know, the cameras being turned off at the Nice truck.
Or the cameras.
The video cam at the Nice truck incident never made public appearance.
This goes on and on and on and on.
And then we got Tulsi Gabbard, Tulsi Gabbard, Intel director, and we got the other CIA director, Radcliffe.
They're both saying, oh, they don't even have a program.
They don't have nuclear development.
They even came out and said this.
Then there's another story that came out today that said they have actually built their first nuclear warhead.
So we got that story, too.
We got a lot of different stories, yeah.
I don't think there's any doubt about Iran having a peaceful nuclear program.
I don't think there's any doubt about that whatsoever.
There is no doubt about Israel declaring it must.
Now, by Whitcoff even, dismantle even its peaceful nuclear energy program.
There's no doubt about the Ayatollah forbidding the use of nuclear weapons by Iran, even though I have felt for a long time Iran deserved to have them to create a mutually assured destruction situation in the Middle East.
Roughly peace about 40 years between the Soviet Union and the United States in the Cold War.
So, Joaquin, do you think I have anything wrong in sketching that broad situation?
No, no, I totally agree.
It worked.
During the Cold War, we were always trained to get under the desk of all this crap, but it never happened.
And I think that's the...
Biggest deterrent to any kind of possibility of nuclear war.
But we also have to realize that they have the technology where they have plasma, scalar kind of weaponry where they can wipe out a whole population of people and not have the radiation.
So there's other weapons that can be brought to bear in all of this that aren't being talked about.
Yes, I think that's very, very important.
Meanwhile, we have this ongoing attack on the Houthis by the United States.
I mean, it's scurrilous.
Fifteen! Fifteen U.S. airstrikes hit Yemen's Merit Province.
The strike come amid reports that the U.S. may back a ground offensive.
Get that!
Against the Houthis.
Fifteen U.S. airstrikes hit districts in Yemen's Merit Province Monday.
Yemen's Saab News Agency reported as the daily U.S. bombing campaign on the country continues.
Maribs in the eastern part of Uthi controlled Yemen, which is where 80% of Yemenis live.
The province was a site of heavy ground fighting between the Uthis and Saudi-backed forces in 2021 during the U.S.-backed Saudi-UAE war on Yemen, which hasn't officially ended.
But it has been frozen since the 2022 ceasefire.
The 2022 ceasefire ended Saudi airstrikes on Yemen, but there have been occasional flare-ups on the ground, including in Marib and Saudi shelling across the Saudi-Yemen border.
But get this, which I find just incredible.
U.S. considering backing a ground offensive against the Houthis in Yemen.
The U.S. is considering backing a ground defense event, the Houthis in Yemen, the Wall Street Journal reported Monday.
The report said plans to back anti-Houthi militias on the ground have been brought to the U.S. by the UAE, and that the U.S. is open to the idea, but hasn't made a final decision yet.
The Houthis, officially known as Ansar Allah, I've controlled Yemen's capital, Sine, since 2014, currently govern an area where 80% of Yemenis live.
The U.S. supported a Saudi-UAE-led coalition against the Houthis from 2015 to 2022 in a brutal war that killed hundreds of thousands of Yemenis, but failed to return former Yemeni President Abdul-Rabu Mansour Hadi to power.
In 2022, after reaching a ceasefire with the Houthis, the Saudis pushed out a side and replaced him with a presidential leadership council that includes several different factions.
The PLC's leadership is based in Saudi Arabia, but it's considered Yemen's internationally recognized government.
Fat chance.
And it concludes by saying, of course, all this is being done for Israel.
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Well, there's a final paragraph here I want to toss into the hopper.
A senior member of Ansar Hall at the political bureau has said the Houthis would stop attacking U.S. warships if the U.S. stopped bombing Yemen.
Trump admin officials have claimed they would stop the airstrikes if the Houthis declared they would stop targeting U.S. ships.
But there's no sign the U.S. is considering the offer, since a bombing campaign is really about protecting Israel.
Indeed it is.
So Trump appears to me to be going all out, doing everything he can for the benefit of Israel, no matter at what cost to America, our military, our resources, our treasury.
Joaquin, I'm sick of this guy.
He's a...
He's a damn Bibi Netanyahu stooge.
That's disgusting.
Owned and controlled by Israel and the City of London founders of Israel.
Yeah, I mean, it's really sad and tragic that the United States, you know, the country we love, we went into the military, we were willing to even die for our country.
We are the bad guys.
We are the villains.
We are the terrorists.
Now, I mean, it's an upside-down world, and unfortunately, the dark side's in control of the United States and Israel and the West.
It seems, I mean, all the Houthis want were the slaughter of their fellow Islam people in Palestine.
To be able to live.
That's all they wanted.
And so they're trying to do a little bit on their part, on their behalf, by trying to fish out any supply ships, you know, delivering goods and weapons to Israel, you know, so the massacre can stop.
And, you know, they keep saying, yeah, all they have to do is stop.
Killing the Palestinians and no more problem from us.
But no, they're the bad guys, says America and Israel.
And they are the terrorists.
They are the terrorists and the ones that will go down in history as the evil ones that are starting all these wars and aggression.
It's just appalling and so sick.
Because of Houthis, Yemen is the only state that's declared war against Israel.
Everything they're doing is in accordance with international law.
Even the United Nations has confirmed it.
The U.S., however, and the U.K. attacking Yemen are violating international law and the U.N. charter.
There's no question about it.
This is getting simply beyond grotesque.
Russ, your thoughts?
I'm kind of thinking about what the order of battle would be in Yemen.
So there's talking about sending troops in there, based on what you were just saying.
It can't be the IDF, because the IDF can't fight.
We've already determined that.
They're not capable of that kind of a campaign.
The U.S., maybe they could do it.
Send a bunch of Marines in there.
Mercenaries, and I'm just kind of at a loss of exactly how they could take on the Houthis.
They're pretty tough.
Well-equipped fighters and pretty well trained.
Yeah. And it's on their own home soil to boot.
You know, it's their own terrain that they know inside and out.
So then you're going to get into another one of these kind of non-starter type wars that doesn't get off the ground.
So what it equates to me ultimately when I think it all through is more extermination and genocide of civilians.
It's about all I can come up with.
And we've got a real good track record for war victories in the last, what, 40 years now?
All we've been doing is losing our wars, and we're going to get bogged down in another one now?
Come on.
They're apparently going to recruit these mercenary factions and even ISIS.
They're going to use ISIS again.
Yeah, they'll try that.
They'll definitely try.
That seems like they're going to try.
This is just despicable!
And this is the United States.
We created ISIS for crying out loud back in 2012.
Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, and Barack Obama.
And when Mike Flynn opposed it, Brennan suggested to Obama he ought to sack him, and he did.
He fired Mike Flynn for opposing the creation of a terrorist army in Syria.
God damn!
The only way I could think that this mercenary thing would work is if they got the Houthis infiltrated.
And, you know, as we discussed, like in Syria, they may have a bunch of people, the Israelis in particular, because that's asymmetric warfare that they fight, is get sort of their operatives inside of the Houthi command structure and then collapse it from within.
That's possible.
Yeah, but I think it's improbable.
I mean, the Houthis have been at Warburg so long.
They've proven them to be so robust, so courageous, so honorable.
In my opinion, they are the most honorable fighting force in the world today.
Yeah, they have a good track record, so you're probably right.
But that's the element out there.
They may just collapse them from within or try to.
Yeah. Well, here we have Joaquin with a new piece here.
Zionist Trump.
Yeah. Ever.
U.S. and World War destroyer by tariffs, bombs, and collapsing Western economies.
Joaquin, I think you've hit another one out of the park, by the way, here.
Let me...
I hit the wrong button here.
Notable Canadian scholar.
Geopolitical analyst and author Henry Macau's 2008 book, Illuminati, the Cult that Hijacked the World, summarizes what humanity has been facing, is now reaching the boiling point.
Bizarre and incredible as it sounds, humanity has been colonized by a satanic cult called the Illuminati.
This cult represents Masonic and Jewish bankers.
Who finagled a monopoly over government credit, which allows them to charge interest on funds they create out of nothing.
Naturally, they will protect this prize by translating it into a political and cultural monopoly.
This takes the form of a totalitarian world government dedicated to Lucifer, who represents the defiance of God.
Thus... The people who control our purse strings are conspiring against us.
To distract and control us, they have used a vast occult network of Freemasonry to infiltrate most organizations, especially government, intel agencies, education, and the mass media.
Humanity is being re-engineered to serve the Illuminati.
They undermine institutions like marriage and religion and promote depravity.
Dysfunction, corruption, and division have orchestrated two world wars and are planning a third.
Now Joaquin continues, America, the once beacon of liberty and freedom champion of the world today finds itself on life support as all but dead.
The truth is, it's been dying for over a century and a half.
On Feb 21, 1871, the 41st U.S. Congress passed Act to provide a government for the District of Columbia, known as the Act of 1871, effectively hijacking our constitutional republic and covertly turning the United States of America,
Incorporated, into a District of Columbia corporation ruled by external forces outside the U.S. under Maritime Law's central banking, Kazarian Mafia.
During the U.S. Civil War, both sides had racked up enormous unpaid debts to the city of London banksters, and the creditors, through devious means, incorporated America.
Under the predatory rule of robber barons and international bankers amidst industrial revolution modernization, the opportune pathway to monopolize control was seized.
Essentially, The treasonous 1871 Act by Congress usurped all jurisdictional power and authority away from individual states' rights, our founding fathers painstakingly established, in order to dismantle America's constitutional checks and ballot systems,
superseded by unlimited, corporatized federal government authority taken over by private elite interests.
Thus, The ten-square-mile land occupied by the U.S. federal government still remains a separate, sovereign entity, distinctly apart from the rest of the then-captured United States fully under the Rothschild City of London tentacle control.
Joaquin, this is so serious, it's so substantial.
Your further thoughts you'd like to add with that?
This is available on my blog at jameshfetzer.org and also at thegovernmentrag.com.
Joaquin. Well, I go on to say that less than six months after they passed the Act of 1871, the top Freemasons in the world, Albert Pike, the ex-Confederate general in the United States,
and Giuseppe Massini, the top Freemason in Italy, We received a letter from Pike saying that, yeah, he outlined the First World War, the Second World War, very accurately,
now that they've already happened.
And he outlined World War III to be the Zionist War versus the Islam War.
And that happened.
They happened within six months of each other to basically turn America into a corporation rather than Retained it as a constitutional republic.
And then a few months later, the whole plotting of World War III that we're up against right now.
So, yeah, I mean, we need to take a look at history and see how things have actually evolved to where we're at right now.
And it's been around for a long time.
So they're going for the gusto of the Third World War, Armageddon, and, you know, Trump's a stooge to go along with the evil, you know, ones on top, which I always say, City of London.
I've been so supportive of Trump for so long.
I voted for him not once, not twice, three times.
But I got to say, in my opinion, he's a traitor.
He's turning the United States over to Israel.
He's nothing but a Netanyahu stooge.
He appears to be a Shabbat Blubavitcher.
I'm really repulsed by the guy at this point in time.
Russ, your thoughts?
I'll go ahead.
Let Bill get a word in.
He hasn't had too much to say on this.
Bill? You're muted.
Yeah, I'm muted.
Okay, yep.
All right, well...
I'll touch on what you just talked about.
I had some input on the last topic.
So, Yaqim, you are probably familiar with Lorraine Moret and her study on ancient Iranian bloodlines, what are called the Zoroastrian bloodlines, how they work together with the Catholic Church.
They've been working together forever.
So, I sent you all an expose article just now.
I've heard about it in the past, and I think it's relevant.
You know, it ties into the Illuminati, obviously everything that Bill Cooper talked about, and Ustaz Mullins.
Absolutely. So just jump real quick to Hootie's...
I'm sorry?
Please do, yes.
Okay. Regarding the Hootie funding, I haven't followed that up.
I've been busy diving in deeper, deeper into other things, like Sandy Hook and my own.
Trying to relocate to a disability housing unit.
So the point is, I can talk a little bit about Hamas.
We know, for example, that funding for Hamas obviously also came through the Swiss banks, that there's a history of that, along with, of course, Netanyahu, the U.S. government.
The transnational bankers fund both sides of every war.
I think we can look back and see that.
It's all about land grab, resource grab.
Smiley Butler wears a racket.
Now, Erud Barak, listen to this, 11-21-23, right after, you know, the alleged October 7th incident, October-November, he stated publicly, Erud Barak,
who I believe was the former prime minister of Israel, said that Israel built the tunnels under Al-Shifa Hospital.
So that article's in the public domain.
I can send it to you guys.
And when I was looking at this, I'll finish by this.
You guys know I'm certified to operate four pieces of heavy equipment.
I've worked on military bases, Fort Ord, Camp Pendleton, with Shaw Environmental.
I'm looking at these tunnels, and there's imagery of the tunnels, some as large as subways, some not.
You've got to move the whole lot of earth.
You need equipment.
Where is it being deposited?
The rock, the dirt.
There's no way that happened without Israel being fully aware and being in cahoots with it, because it's highly surveilled.
Do you see what I mean?
And where do they get the equipment from to do the excavating?
So obviously this has all been brought about in collaboration.
I haven't then looked into the Houthi and that funding and what's behind that, but I'd not be surprised to learn that the Zoroastrian bloodlines and the Catholic Church is directly involved, as always, so it seems.
But Russ is a really good historian and Jim on this.
This is new territory for me.
You know, I think it's very clear that certain leadership in Hamas is Israeli.
I think it's obvious.
I'm not saying all of Hamas.
Probably the rank and file is probably legitimate warriors for their cause.
But the leadership, and I kind of think that the death of the...
What's his name?
I did the whole...
Jesus, I'm just getting terrible with names.
I did the whole presentation on this.
The guy that they...
Where they got him sitting in the chair, yeah.
Yeah, that guy is an Israeli agent.
I mean, they got him in prison for 22 years.
They did brain surgery on him and probably his cadre around him.
It's very interesting that the people that led Hamas were largely in Israeli prisons.
What does that tell you?
You know, MKUltra, you know, mind control, the whole nine yards.
And that's how the Israelis operate.
So I definitely believe that theory.
And, of course, the whole opening the gates of October 7th, letting them stream in, I think, is pretty well established, that even the Israeli media is recognizing that.
Sure. Netanyahu actually was a fundamental figure that actually started Hamas.
He wanted to split the Palestinians on the West Bank from the Palestinians in Gaza.
And so, yeah, I mean, it's an inside job, just like 9-1-1 was an inside Israeli, you know, U.S. job.
You know, it's very similar.
Well, let's get clear.
I think it is the case.
Israel initially funded Hamas to create an alternative to the PLO because Yasser Arafat was just too popular, too influential.
They wanted to cut him down.
They eventually poisoned him.
I dare say, however, Hamas has grown and developed and has become a bona fide representative of the Palestinian people.
They have slaughtered.
The IDF.
The IDF cannot beat Hamas.
They basically lost Hamas just as they lost to Hezbollah in Lebanon.
That's the rank and file.
The rank and file is not Israeli-controlled.
I'm separating the leadership from the rank and file.
And so apparently, I think maybe the Israelis miscalculated that they could just go into Gaza and handle this Hamas rank and file, and they miscalculated.
So that's my theory on that.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, see, I think Bill is going so far as to suggest it's all a sham that all that rubble in Gaza maybe isn't even real, Bill.
I'm just wondering how far you're going with this, because you seem to be suggesting this is all just political theater, and I think it's our job to separate what is and what isn't theater from what is real, and the mass slaughter of Palestinians is real.
Your thoughts?
Like, if we're in court, and we'll talk about this when we talk about Sandy Hook, there's certain legal maxims I like to apply looking at geopolitics.
Falsest Uno, falsest Omnibus.
Once you start defrauding the court, you lose credibility.
And if we look at October 7th, this whole operation, and even the tunnels being built, obviously there was collaboration.
And I would go so far, we did talk about October 7th.
As a heavy equipment operator, it's a hard loader.
We all agree October 7th was at the minimum allowed that it was votes and they used their own Apache.
Americans applied Apache to kill more Israelis to justify the mass slaughter of the Palestinians in Gaza.
We all agree to that.
It's not debatable.
Go ahead.
I was trying to put things into context for any new listener.
That that's where I start my premise.
When I'm looking at an action and I see a grand defrauding going on, to the extent of which even Olay Demigod, in his reporting on that, cited that all those cars destroyed at the alleged bazaar event were destroyed by direct energy weapons,
according to him and his analysis of the forensic evidence.
So I like Olay, and I do believe he has a lot of good...
On October 7th at Direct Energy.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. So now let's talk about one thing that I've been talking to Russ about recently, which I did bring to your attention, Jim.
And one of the reasons I talk fast is I want to get it all in.
So I'll slow down because Jim let me know that when I talk fast, it's confusing and overwhelming.
So if you look at what we were told by CNN, for example, we're talking about bombing in Gaza, right?
I'm not saying there's no bombing.
What I'm saying is the narratives we're being told cannot possibly be true.
Here's why.
A 2,000-pound bomb, okay, CNN reported by their analysis, aerial analysis, 500 2,000-pound bombs, okay?
Now, Russ sent me a video, and I've looked into it further.
The size of the crater, the size of the blast wave, the size of the destructive force is enormous, for one.
It's like 800 meters in radius for destruction,
A quarter mile or half of that roughly for total death, supposedly, and a lot of injured.
Okay, so keep that thought for a second.
Now, just follow me.
Gaza is only 141 square miles or 147.
Okay, well, 500 bombs at a half a mile destruction radius each bomb would be 250 miles of total destruction.
That's more than a...
100 miles more, square miles, of what Gaza is.
Now, let's talk about tonnage.
We've heard recent reports 70,000 tons of bomb dropped on Gaza, right?
And then even more recently, 85,000 tons of bomb.
Well, when you take 2,000 pounds times 500, that's a million pounds.
Guess how many tons that is?
500. So hold that thought.
We just diagnosed that 500...
Now, you guys could break this down and tear it up.
It's just I'm examining it and looking at this.
500 2,000-pound bombs would be 250 square miles of destruction and 125 square miles of death, according to the reports on an MK-84.
Okay? Well, if you have 500 tons that can cause that number of death, let's do the math.
How many times does 500 go into...
85,000.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Or better yet, it is so implausible that that level of tonnage could have been dropped on that little strip.
Do you see what I'm saying?
That's my endgame, looking at this.
Because a fraction of that, just what CNN reports in MK-84s would level that place one time plus 100 square miles over based on the reports.
Russ sent me that video, so I'm basing it on what he sent me, and I collaborated with other reports.
So now, so if you go 500 into 85,000, for example, you get 17,000.
How many times can we level that place?
You see what I mean?
It's impossible.
It's totally impossible, Jim, your artillery commanding officer, to drop that amount of tonnage.
You would have crater upon crater upon crater.
How deep would they be?
Do you see what I mean?
Do you see where I'm getting at?
You know, let's take a look.
If you want to give me the screen, let's take a look at these 2,000-pound bombs just to kind of get a visual on it.
Okay, let me hear you.
Do you want to do that?
I mean, I don't want to take over your show.
No, no, no.
A couple more quick things while you're pulling that up, Guy.
Okay, Augustine X, before I got booted permanently, and I can still go to YouTube, or I should say reports.
I use Yandex as a browser.
Do you know when Jim broke down the Boston unbombing?
It's like, where's the blood?
Right? I'm not saying everything happened in Gaza is fake, but I have to say I've seen many reports, many videos I've looked at with a lady called Blarney Stone that actually came in and talked to Jim about this.
We were looking at him together.
She's been a fan of Jim for a decade.
I learned about her in X. And she's like, oh my God, Bill, you're right about that.
There is no blood.
Where's the collateral damage?
How could that be?
How is it there's supposedly, in one report, 61 casualties, supposedly 11 dead, 51 injured.
Guess what?
In the video, there's only 11 people total.
And most of them are moving, and there's zero collateral damage.
Nothing to any building.
There's no crater.
There's nothing.
So what I'm saying is, I'll finish, Jim.
I know you want to move on.
There is evidence.
But, Russ, you're host.
Go ahead.
Okay, here's the 2,000-pound bomb.
Let's just take a look at it.
You got the screen up?
No, just a note.
There you go.
Alright, stop that over.
Because we do have much more capable weapons in our environment.
Yeah, it's a pretty good blast.
Now, Russ, do you recall the video you sent me prior when we were talking about this when I was in the show before?
Yeah, the crater's kind of misleading, though, because sometimes the craters aren't that big.
But that blast there we just saw.
I'm just going on the statistics that I then followed up on.
We're looking at a 50-meter fireball, right, according to the video you sent and then other reports I followed up.
Not all the reports are consistent either.
That's a very confusing thing, I will say.
The majority of them seem to collaborate.
The original video you sent me, Russ.
And we're looking at an 11-meter crater.
Now, when I'm digging as an excavator operator, depending on the soil strata and structure, if it's mostly sand with small rock structures, it's really easy to dig through.
What I'm getting at is you take a rocky soil, like in Santa Barbara, a lot of large boulders in Montecito, where I worked, that's another matter.
So what do we have?
We have a coastal community.
Let me finish.
When you're dropping a bomb, go ahead.
When you're dropping a bomb...
Work backwards from the damage and infer how much was actually dropped.
I'm trying to make an equivalency.
You interrupt me.
When you're digging, the hardness of the soil is relevant.
When you're dropping a bomb, it's the same thing.
That is desert.
That's mostly sand.
Okay, Jim.
You make the estimate of how much has been dropped.
That's all.
Right. Yeah.
Maybe the estimates of the 2,000-pound bombs are being misstated.
Maybe they're exaggerating it.
Because that does look like a pretty frigging big impact on that.
That's where accepting your points about the power of the explosive, there must have been less.
Or the damage would be far greater.
So it's easy to exaggerate how much tonnage has been drawn.
Right, but the tonnage reports came from CNN.
So that's where Bill and I are drawing the tonnage reports.
So there is a...
Right, Bill?
So maybe that's just a false report.
How is this a conspiracy?
Did you know that the police in Boston were...
To me it kind of looks like not that many...
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The Boston Globe was tweeting that a demonstration bomb would be set off during the marathon for the benefit of bomb squad activities, and that one would be set off in one minute in front of the library, which happened as the Globe had announced.
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Can I finish up the point, Jim, and we'll move on?
Hang on a sec.
Bill has raised an important question here.
Given the amount of devastation created by these bombs, if the amount of tonnage that's claimed to have been dropped on Gaza had been dropped on Gaza, there ought to be massively more damage.
The alternative is...
Jim, your volume is low.
Your volume is low.
Say again?
Your volume is low.
You're not coming in.
Really? Huh.
That's kind of odd.
I'm rather surprised.
There you go.
There you go.
Okay. You're good.
No, you're good.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. Let me point out, Bill has made a very important point about the amount of damage inflicted by certain tonnage of bombing.
And he's saying, when you look at the damage to Gaza, considering the amount of...
Tonnage alleged to have dropped, it isn't sufficient.
There should be vastly more.
The alternative would be, but when you look at the damage to Gaza, you can make an inference backwards that it's simply been a lesser amount of tonnage that's been dropped on Gaza.
Now, Joaquin, I want you to pick up and give us what you make out of all this.
Well... There might be a valid point that Bill's making here, but the bottom line is there's not much left of Gaza.
The buildings are gone.
It's like 90% of all the buildings have already been bombed and toppled over.
And there's thousands of bodies that are still rotting away in the rubble that have not gone into the...
official count that they have, and it's something like $55,000 or something like that, it's way
Yeah, it's a point, and to a great extent, it's a show that they bring on, and a lot of false things are brought to bear to make people think a certain way.
But the bottom line is, genocide is going on.
The world isn't doing anything to help except the Hooties.
Bill, go ahead.
Give us your further thoughts.
Okay, I want to tie this into the population.
Now, who's reporting on the tonnage?
If anyone were to Google tons of bombs dropped on Gaza, you're going to see a lot of the Middle East monitor, 85,000 tons.
If you go back to Wikipedia, the last report, I guess, is 70,000 tons.
It's anywhere between 70,000 and 85,000 tons I'm seeing repeatedly.
All I was trying to say was 2,000 pounds times 500 is a million pounds, 500 tons.
500 goes into 85,000 for simple math, 17,000.
You see, you would level...
Now, let's talk about population then.
You can say, well, look at all the destruction.
Okay, I'm not arguing that it exists.
Okay, so one, we've dissected...
They're not dropping the amount of tonnage they are.
And or the other scenario is it's where they're misleading us.
Either way, however you want to pull it apart, it can't all be true.
Now, if you look at 2.3 million people that existed there in 147 square miles, if you drop that amount of tonnage 85,000 times, we can blow the place up over 20,000 times over.
I suggest the collateral damage to human life would be far exceeding what they're telling us.
It might be.
It might be, Bill.
It might be.
Exactly. You see, all I'm saying is, if you look at this like you would look at a court case, and you look at it like you and I talked about the vaccines, you have to start seeing repeatedly there's disinformation.
What's really happening is where I have trouble.
Do you see what I mean?
Because of this repeated...
They could very well be underreporting the deaths and injuries.
I think they're overwhelmingly underreporting the deaths.
The other thing I would point out on this little exercise we're doing is the Israelis are trigger happy and they waste a lot of ordinance.
They've shown that constantly throughout this whole operation.
They could drop a 2,000 pound bomb in one spot.
Blast the shit out of it and just come back again and waste another 2,000 bomb on the same spot, just constantly, just pounding the same spot.
So it's the efficiency of the bombing of these 2,000 pounders.
Bill's raised a very interesting point, namely there's a tension, a contradiction between the reported damage and the reported tonnage, and we grant that.
I think no one's going to argue with you, Bill, and I think it is an important observation.
So one or the other is mistaken, or possibly both, but they cannot both be true.
Thank you.
I want to say, Jim, I read your article on deductive-inductive reasoning, and, you know, this is what I'm applying, okay?
So the next level is, yeah, and I do it objectively.
I'm not a Zionist.
I've been accused of that.
No, I'm...
I don't have a dog on either side.
We know who funded Tomas.
The thing is, Bill, we have a dog on one side, so make that clear.
No, I understand.
I understand.
Russ, Russ, I get it.
Let's just talk about the collateral damage of death real quick.
Now, if you, like we established, whatever fraction of 85,000 tons it may be, who knows?
Let's look at Bergen-Belsen, for example.
Where the bodies were dead and rotting.
You had cholera, not only the typhus, you had cholera, dysentery, you know, starvation, dehydration, etc.
Compiling the deaths.
We know there were no gas chambers, okay?
Boom. But look now, you've got, Bergen-Belsen was 50,000 people.
See the equivalencies I'm trying to make?
If you draw that to Gaza, and if you had that number of bodies under rubble, Anyone ever hear about vector disease spreading through flies, mice?
In other words, that would be a cesspool of disease.
Now, the U.N. originally said, going back to, let's see, not this May.
Yeah, they said as of May, from the initial attack, which, of course, we know, say October 7th, all this damage, that by May there would be 1.1 million people dead.
Then they changed it by July.
There'd be 1.1 million people.
If we had that many people dead, where are they being buried?
Where's the forensic evidence?
I look at this the way I broke down the Holocaust.
You see what I'm saying?
Well, they've got to point out that they've taken the population of Gaza and concentrated them along the beaches there, certain areas.
The places that have really been devastated, they don't even let people go back in there.
If they do, they'll shoot them.
Good point.
Good point, Russ.
So what we have is they're notified ahead of time.
They talk about leafs just being dropped.
I was talking to a guy.
I can't divulge his name.
He asked me not to.
Who said he had inside information when I was an ex.
I said, what's happening?
He said, just like when the Luftwaffe attacked England, tunnels, underground.
People are going underground.
They're notified ahead of time they're going underground.
Two, they're moving out of the blast area.
Right? Otherwise, the amount of collateral deaths in that tiny area with 2.3 million people would just be unspeakable.
And you'd see a lot more of it.
We don't even see the forensic evidence.
Where do you bury all those people?
If they're under rubble, then how is it there's reporters there, Russ, who are reporting and they're not being swarmed by flies?
I used to have horses and goats.
You've got to do fly control big time and clean up the poop.
If you have a lot, a lot of bodies, gymnos, and people who've been in war know.
Rats fill the trenches.
You know, they've got all kinds of disease spreading and war zone military personnel.
So anyway.
I'm just trying to understand it.
It started with a huge fraud.
I don't know where...
You don't know where the fraud ends, right?
At this point, it's very difficult to disseminate.
That's interesting, and that's a good exercise.
Joaquin, do you want to add any further thoughts?
No, not to this.
Okay. Listen, something else...
Bill wanted to discuss FOIA, but I'm proposing, Bill, to come on the show Friday and we talk about FOIA, and I'm going to see if Wolfgang can join us.
But there's something else I want to raise.
I've had an email from a correspondent, this is a pretty smart guy, asking about why we're even bothering addressing Victor Hugo's absurdities.
His title is, Why Do We Bother With VH?
And here's what he says.
My point is that nobody but you apparently cares about Victor's videos and his allegations.
If they are preposterous or nonsensical, then that's all the more reason to ignore them.
Focusing on them tends to give them weight.
I'm not a lawyer, so I don't even know if he has a point when he claims you should have removed the case to a federal court.
But again, whether you made a legal error or not, nobody cares.
Because any fool can see that the courts are controlled and the entire case is ridiculous.
That's a point, isn't it?
Now, it is true that Alex took a dive.
No question about that.
He just went along with a charade because that was the best thing for him.
And he still bends the truth from time to time.
But he's still in business and no judgment was ever collected.
But that's not you.
I can't believe you spent time on this when there are plenty of other things vastly more important than Victor Hugo to discuss.
Now, Ross...
Yeah, let me just say something.
What does he mean by we know?
We know that the courts are corrupt.
Okay, yeah, we do.
The four of us know.
He may know.
But there's other people in the universe, dude.
There's other people in the universe.
So the next step in this whole process is to actually prove, and I think Bill's prepared to do it.
Bill's prepared to do it in some of these discussions, just how fraudulent the courts are.
That's going to be one of our main points in the story.
Russ, you wrote a wonderful response.
You have that at hand.
Could you share that with us?
I'd like for you to share us.
That's on my email.
I know.
I thought that was spot on.
If you could pull it up.
It kind of gives away our strategy a little bit to Victor, so I kind of prefer not to say it.
But I kind of made a point.
What's this guy saying about we?
You know, yeah, we know, but not everybody knows.
So it's kind of a red herring is what I'm saying.
Well, I think there are multiple reasons why we need to move forward, including...
Insisting that these platforms adhere to their terms of service.
Yeah, that's the main one.
Yeah, to allow this to go on is just to turn the bitchute and rumble into cesspools of false allegations, historical claims.
I mean, this is as exaggerated, as grotesque a case as they may ever have in the history of the Internet.
This guy with already...
Over 444 videos attacking us because of a difference of opinion about, you know, how to characterize a Jewish problem?
I mean, it's lunatic!
And I don't think there's any doubt that he suffers from various abnormalities of character and personality.
It goes back to 2008.
We got remarks from Miami about him hanging out.
A painting of a four-foot-long penis.
I mean, give us a break.
So they were saying already in Miami in 2008, he's one of the strangest residents.
You can't just ignore this guy.
So I totally disagree with the writer.
I think we cannot.
Joaquin, would you like to add further thoughts?
Well, I see both points of view.
I personally...
Have not wanted to get that involved because, you know, I'm busy writing all the time and I don't have time to spend so much time with Victor.
And I see this guy's point of view that he wrote in that, and I made the point later, that they want to divide and rule.
That's how they create the conflicts where it's one group against another.
And within the alt-news world, I find that They're very effective about dividing and ruling us so that we're fighting amongst each other rather than paying attention to the bigger issues like human genocide that they're out to get us.
Because that is very real and that's the story of all ages.
So I tend to focus a lot on that and I'm busy writing so I don't get it.
But as far as he's gone way past the limit of...
Defamation. I mean, he meets every legal criteria.
And so, yeah, for him to go after you and try and wreck your reputation, and obviously, he went after Russ with a whole bit with that.
And so, yeah, I get it.
He went after me in a much milder way.
So, you know, it's easy for me to say.
But, yeah, you guys definitely...
It needs to be followed up with Bitchu and Rumble and all the rest of them so that they adhere to their own rules.
Yeah, yeah.
Part of his strategy is to claim he's just reporting what other people are doing and that it's news and therefore he's protected.
So he'll say, well, Arwen Young, this attorney from Ohio, has proof.
That I threw my case at Sandy Hook, which is absurd because I'm still in court fighting it.
How could I have thrown a case that I'm still fighting?
Bill happened to notice all this and sent Wynn multiple examples of briefs that show I'm still in court, some of which he assisted me in writing.
So, I mean, how could this guy persist?
It's interesting that, you know, correspondence has come in from Todd Champ.
Callender, who's kind of reaching out now and wants to have conversations about this, but Todd Callender knows that the courts are corrupt.
These guys don't believe that they're functioning.
Right? Am I wrong?
Well, Bill was very good because Todd was responding to Bill's contribution to our conversation.
What Bill brings to the conversation is an understanding of the absolute corruption of the court system.
Yeah, and he's fought many battles and won an awful lot.
I mean, I've been astonished by his legal history.
It's naive to think that the courts aren't corrupt and didn't just totally...
Yeah, that's something we never...
Railroad is the word to use, but give it to Bill.
Go ahead, Bill.
We want your input here.
Go ahead, tell us.
Mike. You're muted.
There's a lot to unpack there.
So the two issues we see is liability, damage, defamation, what possible actions can be taken regarding Victor.
We talked about that in our April 9th show.
Let me just say that's one thing that we can discuss further.
And then there's my communication with Todd.
And I think it may be helpful.
And to me communicating to him and him communicating back, if you like, Jim, I could quickly read those or not.
You tell me.
Because it kind of lays out both our perspectives.
And let's just say it was healthy.
It was productive.
He thanked me.
And he's looking forward to us coming on his show.
Todd is.
Because he fully admits he doesn't know much about Sandy Hook.
Really. And he said, look, I only went on once.
And he said, I'd like to learn what you all have learned.
However, he's very clear.
He said, if you can get them to put the pistols away, and what he exactly means by that, he said his email's being flooded, and he's, I don't know, probably from Victor as well, and when, who knows?
We can only speculate.
I only sent him this one email because I never had his email address until he emailed me.
So where that's coming from, I don't know.
But the point is, That he would like to be constructive.
Jim, I'll ask you, do you want me to quickly read any of this or just give you a synopsis?
You tell me.
Well, the synopsis is excellent.
But Todd's letter, I think, was very open-minded.
He appears to me to be very patient.
I think he's a responsible guy, unlike Wynn and Victor Hugo, who are egregious in their abuse of the platform and their...
Willing us to indulge in unqualified defamation.
I mean, it's just stunning how far they have gone.
And using Todd as their entry.
And Todd, I read his email to us, and he's just basically saying, I want to learn.
I want to get engaged and find out about this.
This is an important issue.
That's all he said.
Right. Let's talk about that a little bit.
Go ahead.
Bill, go ahead.
Say whatever you want.
That he needs to learn more.
Now, here's the thing.
You have two attorneys, and he platformed when I say you have Todd and you have Wynn.
Now, Wynn has made his assertions on Tom's show.
Wynn has a site anyone can go look at where he spends half of it thrashing Jim and Wolfgang.
All right.
So that is Operation Madcap, R. Wynn Young.
You can Google it and find it.
And you scroll down.
And you'll see he's got video content with Todd, and then he uses that to validate himself.
You see what I mean?
Look, I got a 30-year attorney, and he repeats this.
In other words, Todd is backing up his story.
And then he goes on to totally smear Jim and Wolf as the gurus who were basically controlled out.
Okay? So, yet, his very premise is this.
One, okay, let's break down, go back a step to the first point.
His premise is that because Jim didn't have writer's insurance and he represented himself, he threw the case.
He's making a conclusion based on a cursory observation.
It's got no basis in fact that what happened, as Jim can tell you, Moonrock Books and...
What is it, Jim?
What's it called again?
Their legal arm with...
I forgot.
Wrongs without remedies?
Yes. Wrongs without remedies.
Had two attorneys.
Jim was adjoined to...
Obviously, they're all named as defendants.
They're the publishers.
They should have defended and fought this.
And they didn't.
They caved and left Jim.
And who's the other fellow unprotected?
Mike Palachuk.
Go at it.
Right. So Jim was relying on the legal representation of his publisher.
The fact that they caved is out of Jim's hands.
Now he's stuck without an attorney, and I can tell you...
The point is that Todd doesn't understand that, and probably we should...
I mean, I don't want to direct you guys, but we're going to confuse the audience if we're not careful.
But Todd is willing to come to the table and learn all this stuff and learn all this stuff.
If we've already covered, we've covered – the audience wants to go back to the last Wednesday show we did and get all this information.
Bill, don't you agree the whole insurance thing is a red herring?
Because insurance would just pay off a settlement for an offense I didn't commit.
So, I mean, he's ignoring the fact that the court was complicit in this.
It was a written trial.
I mean, I'm alleging that in my briefs, and I stand by every word in my briefs.
I concur.
And we can look at the Remington Arms, Sandy Hook thing, where they caved.
So when you go against the government powers, the corporations are owned by the—it's fascism, and you get to the courts, and this is what we see repeatedly.
So first of all, with the bunks, there's no merit to any lawsuit against you.
Or even Alex, for that matter, because here's for the audience, this is a dead ringer, and I was trying to explain this to Rush.
Okay, plain devil's advocate, all these kids died, and adults.
Right. I disagree, but say, we know, to this day, Jim, you know, anyone can get on their cell phone or laptop and find the FBI Crime Table 8, 2012, Consolidated Crime Table, find the state of Connecticut, scroll down to Newtown, we're standing here, it's a village,
and what does it say?
Zero. Now, I'm a citizen reporter, and I've been reporting on this, and I live.
I used to go to Camp Whippewag in Newtown.
I live here.
Not in Sandy Hook, but in Fairfield County.
I used to live in Trumbull.
Well, I live right outside Trumbull.
Okay, so what I'm trying to make is I've been reporting on this.
Anyone, all Alex Jones had to do, or anybody, even if the court were legit, would say, you know, what does it say in that crime table?
It says, Zero murders or non-negligent manslaughter in Newtown in 2012 and you're frozen temporarily, Bill, but you're spot on.
That was in the evidence that court excluded and said I wasn't allowed to permit because whether anybody died in Newtown wasn't relevant.
I mean, this is virtually what he said to the truth or accuracy of a death certificate who someone is alleged to have died in Newtown.
Keep going.
Keep going, Bill.
Okay. So what you have is you have this propaganda that is so overwhelming, a mass formation psychosis, that this happened.
The point is the courts are completely corrupt.
We've all seen it.
And a perfect example is the case has no merit.
Because if you look at a chain of liability, who's liable for putting that table out to this day that says zero?
FBI! Exactly!
Has anyone sued the FBI for that?
Are they number one as a defendant?
No! Okay, no!
Yeah, because they're establishing the standard.
They're establishing the narrative, and people are just reacting to that narrative, and they're saying zero.
But then it gets worse than that, because there's so much omission, so much omission of evidence.
And that's what the FOIA hearings with Wolfgang Habig showed.
I mean, I don't want to steal the thunder, because I've just kind of learned all this myself.
But this is what the calendar needs to hear.
There's a tremendous amount of omission and the FOIA tapes that are supposed to be like 32 of them and only three were put out, things like that.
I mean, I don't even know where to start on that.
I mean, it's just omission, omission, omission, omission.
So the legal standard, which Bill can explain, is that if you're omitting evidence, that's an omission of guilt.
Stand by, stand by.
We got a break and we'll continue.
Momentarily, I'll give out the number for callers to join us.
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Let's see, Bill, do you want to add another comment?
Yeah, before you bring in callers, let's give the people a little teaser for the future shows.
Russ touched on it.
Well, let me first finish my last thought.
If I ever got sued, all I'd say is cite the FBI crime table.
I believe it's true.
That's it.
And you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to get this case dropped.
It's fixations.
It's frivolous.
I'm a reporter.
I'm just reporting.
Sue them.
Right? Right?
And then sue whoever's bringing the suit.
Sue them for damage and defamation.
That's what should have happened.
But Alex Jones, attorneys, and the courts, you're so upside down corrupt, you couldn't get anywhere.
You take that where you want.
But for the next show, we're going to...
We have.
I'll just touch on it.
The four-year commission hearings, July 9th, but you're going to have a hell of a time finding that.
If you use the index, you might find it.
Anybody. July 9th, 2015.
You need a bravas.
You need a bravas.
Al Big was trying to expose that this whole thing was a sham.
And in his efforts, he submitted Freedom of Information Act requests for the release of certain crucial records, including the police dashcam footage.
Now, we have some police dashcam footage for locations and times when, according to the official narrative, an evacuation was taking place.
But the dashcam footage shows Nothing going on there.
In other words, it contradicts the official narrative.
Now, Newtown was blocking and not being cooperative or the state police or whatever.
So this is Wolfgang trying to pursue the enforcement of his Freedom of Information Act request with an attorney, Kay Griggs.
Go right ahead now.
But also add that somebody in, I don't know where, one of these police departments leaked.
Into the public domain, the videos.
But they're not time-stamped or something.
Let me clarify what happened there.
Kate Wilson was Will's attorney.
Jim gave that correctly, everything leading up to that.
Now, what you have in the public domain, which is admissible under the hearsay rule, is because it's in media.
You can find it.
Anyone can find it in Rumble.
We need to talk about Sandy Hook, the third presenter.
Her name is Shelly.
She's got the Connecticut State Police video and the report.
You can see the cops.
They're obviously at Sandy Hook School.
It shoots the whole parking lot.
That first came out in 2014.
That's the earliest rendition I've found in the public domain.
Now, then you had Wolf's Hearings, which took place in 2015, okay?
And you have three law enforcement teams there.
You have Newtown, so you have videos from their cameras.
That's another issue that will describe.
They're fragmented, apparently, because there's no time and date stamp, and yet you've got the state police, but also the FBI was there.
So no one's even talking about the FBI dash cam footage, right?
But in these Foria hearings, the absolute conundrum, confuffle, that came up is that Chief Cahill, regarding the Newtown Police dash cam videos, claimed that when they were sent to Wolf, they were time and date stamped.
The allegation is Wolf's equipment's...
Well, the way to solve that is to go into the court with them and say, okay, you bring the equipment then.
It was Chief Cahill's laptop that Wolf sawed on with Kay.
So Chief Cahill's conveniently retired after these FOIA hearings, right?
After the railroad job to cover everything up.
But what should have happened there was, okay, you know what?
Fine. Then we're going to, let's play the videotape on Chief Cahill's, you know, let's see if it's time to date stamp.
Hello? Well, there's a whole other package of that where Kay ended up There's four 40 hearings we can find.
This gets so elaborate and detailed.
I want us to discuss it Friday.
Okay. Let me just finish by saying then, this is one hearing now.
We have absolute fraud on the court by the commissioners.
You have Chairman Owen Egan present.
You have Commissioner Streeter, who sat the first two hearings.
And you have...
Kay, citing Thomas Hennick, who she complained to about all this, and guess what she heard?
All these people were totally complicit.
You know what the story is?
Well, the FOIA Commission can issue subpoenas, but we're just not in the practice of doing it.
So what does that do?
That thwarts discovery.
How do you compel people?
Bill, can we do this on Friday, okay?
Sure, go ahead.
The last thing you said, though, is very important.
Go ahead, Russ.
Emphasize. It's just kind of an admission that we don't care about FOIA.
We just can make up any kind of rules we want.
It just totally trashes the whole concept of transparency.
And, I believe, is an admission of guilt.
Well, yes!
The whole community was involved.
This was a massive cover-up.
Remember, Eric Holder came down and...
2006, and offered the community $114 million to perpetrate this fraud on the American people.
And they bought it.
They don't want to be exposed.
The larger point is that Jim Fetzer, Wolfgang Halbig laid their butts on the line on all this stuff.
And to trash them the way these assholes have done is just really criminal.
It's just off the charts.
It's just like, you guys...
I mean, I'm kind of learning a lot of new stuff myself, but this is something we've got to go revisit.
We've got to go revisit this whole story.
You know, and fuck Victor Hugo.
He didn't have anything to do with it.
You're not out of the picture, Victor.
You're irrelevant on this.
We're going to show what was really going on with Sandy Hook, and there's a whole new generation of people out there, maybe even our listeners, that don't know anything about this stuff.
So we're going to start educating them.
Great points, Ross.
The call-in number is 608-957-8727, 608-957-8727.
We do have a caller on the line from 751 Area Code.
Caller, please give us your first name and state.
Yeah, this is Patrick in Wisconsin.
Go ahead, Patrick.
to make a little comment about Victor Hugo.
Yeah. I think the first time I ever heard of the dude, he had done an interview.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. Put in prison.
And he had his life threatened.
Gurmar. Gurmar Rudolph.
Yeah, I know Gurmar.
You should get him involved in this conversation and get his testimony of what he was put through with the whole system after that interview took place.
You're suggesting Victor Hugo was setting up Gurmar to be arrested and punished for the interview he did with Victor?
I just find it suspicious that it was just after that interview that he ended up going to prison for a violation that happened many years ago, maybe even decades ago for all I remember.
But it's very timely, very interesting because you're having a similar problem with the man, it sounds like, in this regard with what you've been talking about, you and your guests.
Go ahead.
During that interview, that was the first time I ever seen his interview.
It was months back now on Bitchute.
And in the interview, Victor Hugo was saying how he was going to have a guest on later in that week with a rabbi.
Which I find very interesting that you would even interview a rabbi, a Jewish rabbi like that.
So just my two cents, I wanted to put that out there.
You should get Girmar Rudolph and talk to him about this situation.
Yeah, I like Girmar.
When Nick Hollerstrom was about to publish his sensational book, I think it's the definitive.
Exposing the Holocaust hoax called Breaking the Spell, he invited me to write the introduction.
And when I authored the introduction, it was Gurmar who was serving as his editor and suggested a couple tweaks to my introduction.
I like Gurmar.
I believe I interviewed him years back, of course, about his discovery that there were no...
Blue stains on the walls, which would have occurred if they actually were using this mild form of cyanide, Zyklon B, in the alleged gas chambers, where, of course, we know none of them could have facilitated the real function as real gas chambers,
as Fred Luchter, who is the leading expert, went to some of the camps, studied the facilities, came back with a Luchter report for the...
Trial of Zondel in Canada in 1988.
I thought that was going to put the end to it completely.
Robert Forasan wrote a wonderful piece about the Zondel trials and the sensational look to reports.
You would have thought that would put the end to the whole talk about gas chambers, but they just go on and ignore the facts.
They just make it up.
Lie compounded by lie, and in that tradition we find this guy.
You know, Victor Hugo Vaca.
I'm very appreciative of your call.
Would anyone like to respond here?
Say more?
I have a response.
I'd like to respond.
I think we need to get objective about this.
Gurmar was prosecuted, arrested, put in prison, persecuted prior.
Was it four or five years, I'm trying to recall, for his excellent reporting as a chemist, following up on the Lukter report.
Jake Shields interviewed Gurmar prior to Victor, and I believe Stu Peters.
Stu Peters was even making people aware they could buy the book.
So, in this regard, Patrick, I appreciate your concern, but when you look at the entirety of it, I don't think it's fair.
And it really undermined us, Jim, because there was many other people presenting Gurmar at that time, along with Victor.
So I want to just clear that up.
Maybe Patrick didn't know that.
That's all.
I would just say it's suspicious to me because I don't think Pete Shields or Stu Peters would have a rabbi on to interview.
That's all.
And it was the last interview before he was arrested, before Girmar was arrested.
Patrick, I think it's valuable.
I'm glad you called in.
I'm glad you called in.
Let me just say quickly to that.
There are some rabbis.
I don't have...
Patrick, I don't have another caller, so if you want to add or expand, you're welcome to do that.
Have you had any other thoughts about Victor Hugo?
Have you watched some of these?
He packs all of his propaganda and his titles he gives to his shows.
I mean, most of them are just...
Patrick, what do you think about his videos he does on me and my granddaughter having herpes?
What do you think of those videos?
Yeah, I haven't seen any of those videos, just heard your reports about them, and it doesn't...
How about the ones where a sidekick basically pulls it out of his ass and says I'm a pedo?
What do you think of those?
Hang on.
Go ahead, Patrick.
I would just say that I have a very limited experience with listening to him.
I'd heard him on with you, Jim, at one point, and then the Germar interview.
That's about my only exposure other than I had heard, say, Andy Hitchcock talk about Victor Hugo on his show, how he had just kind of, Victor had come out of nowhere, more or less,
on the scene, and I was just...
I haven't heard very much about this man and what he's doing.
It's suspicious to me, anyone that communicates with...
Rabbi is a suspect to me.
I wouldn't listen to somebody who interviews rabbis.
It's just not conducive to getting the truth out about what's going on.
You're welcome to stand by.
We do have a second caller from 913 area code.
Join the conversation caller.
Just give us your first name and state.
First name John, also known as Ex-Gentile from Missouri.
I just want to clear the air.
I appreciate you guys talking about what you're talking about.
But you can put an end to the Jewish debacle by acknowledging where they first lived.
You know, they're not the chosen people that are from Israel.
Right. Before Israel was created in 1948, they lived in Hitler and Germany.
So how can anybody think that they're the chosen?
They're not.
I mean, the chosen people are the Hebrews.
And the Hamashiach, you talk about, the Hebrews don't know that.
And what the Jews have done has hijacked it through the Catholic training.
I don't know.
They mostly lived in the settlement of Pale, which is sort of eastern Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, and into Russia.
Yeah, the area known as Karia in the past.
Thus we get the Zacharian Mafia, you know, as a designation.
I don't think Germany actually played a role here.
There are some German Jews, but most of them came from...
Most of the German Jews ended up leaving even before World War II.
A lot of them went to the United States.
Before 1948, the Jews lived in Germany with Hitler.
Period. End of story.
End of discussion.
It's a known fact.
You can't sidestep that issue.
So they really didn't come from Israel.
And then it just so happened right after World War II in 1948 when the United States was forced to create Israel through the Vatican.
That's when they were given permission to go over there and flee to that country and take over it and inhibit it.
I'm just clarifying where they actually came from is all.
I'm not really disagreeing with your premise.
Yeah, okay.
May I make a comment?
Yeah, please.
Please, Patrick.
If you go online and you look up the letter from Constantinople from 1489, they had the Grand Sanhedrin in Constantinople at the time.
So it doesn't mean much to say that the Jews, just because you have Ashkenazi Jews and the Sephardic-type Jews, it doesn't mean that they're not all part of the same religion.
You know, you look at Basel, Switzerland, that's the oldest...
The Jewish ghetto in Europe from the time of the 400s.
So they've been all over the place.
It doesn't make any sense to me, what you just said.
The thing you've got to look at is genetic studies.
There's been a lot of genetic studies.
Hang on, hang on.
Hang on, Patrick.
Patrick is commenting ex-Gentile.
Hang on.
Go ahead, Patrick.
Say more.
That's all I had to say.
It goes back to the time of Jesus Christ.
They've always been around from that time in parallel with the Christians.
Well, of course.
864. Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Let me bring on 864.
864, join the conversation.
Just give us your first name and state, please.
Yeah, Mike, this is, I'm in the Carolinas.
Go ahead.
And I think it's only fair to think that as long as Israel has the option of throwing in everybody's face about the Samson option, I think everybody else ought to have the Samson option too.
So let them go ahead and nuke right up, anybody who wants to, and go head on, face to face.
Enough of Israel is enough.
All leadership in Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth, as far as I'm concerned.
Enough extortion, right.
Savages, they lie, cheat, steal, and murder to get what they want.
It's time to give them their comeuppance.
That's what they've earned.
Thanks, Mike.
Ross, go ahead.
Yeah, right, right.
Enough extortion, exactly.
I agree.
Can I jump in here real quick?
Please do.
Okay. All right.
I tried being objective.
Sorry. Go ahead.
Go ahead.
You, Bill.
Okay. Okay.
For example, there are orthodox rabbis like Rabbi Mashi Friedman.
Rabbi Mashi Friedman says the Holocaust didn't happen.
And there's orthodox rabbis that are totally against Zionism.
So I think we have to be objective.
We don't know who Victor's guest is going to be.
And even if he brought a pro-Israeli rabbi on, he could be doing a point-counterpoint to give a guy a chance to talk and then argue with him.
Who knows?
I just can't make that assumption.
Because I don't know who the rabbi was, and I don't watch Victor's shows.
You're lucky.
You're lucky, Bill.
There's an idea, too.
What easy person walking this earth would ever want to be a Jew with their reputation?
Well, I'm going to finish my point.
I want to clarify something for everybody.
Obviously, Jim and I were doing shows together.
We had disagreements.
People do.
I dropped off.
By the way, the disagreements had to do with Donald Trump.
They had nothing to do with any of these other issues.
Go right ahead.
Yeah, there's a lot of history I have with the Trump DOJ here in Connecticut.
He crushed the task force on corruption.
I ended up incarcerated, exposing corruption here.
So that's the thumbnail version.
So what I'm getting at is there was that, then there was also some misunderstandings.
Let's say we're human, we're complicated.
We're dealing with many different layers and issues.
So the point is, Victor was someone, along with Yakeem and Russ, who I've been doing shows with.
So there was communication thereafter with both Yakeem and Victor.
Well, I'm talking to people personally now at that point.
And there were some strong misunderstandings and, you know, disagreements.
So I was expressing them.
When I was an ex and I was getting massive views, up to 600,000 views on my post, which I was reporting to Jim Pryor, I never went into X and spewed all this stuff.
And when I'm having a disagreement with someone, I'm dialoguing like with Russ or Yakeem or Victor.
It's off the show.
I never went on a show with Victor and dissed Jim.
You see what I'm saying?
That was me expressing to someone who I thought I could confide in.
And what he's done now, he's taken those emails and he's used them as a weapon.
Right? And first of all, that's not my style.
Right? And any communication I have in private should stay private.
Period. Okay?
And it should be added.
It's not just you, Bill.
It's a bunch of other people.
It's Susan Bradford, for example, he's doing that.
So he just does that constantly.
He's done it a little bit with me.
You know, it's just really low-life behavior to take private.
He has no friends on balls.
And then who would ever want to contact the guy?
Why would we want to dialogue with him?
So the alert needs to go out to the whole truth or community that this guy's toxic.
Let me say, Russ, I'm not hip of that.
You and I were having a lot of disagreements, right?
Even in private chat.
But here we are today.
We work through it, right?
And I think the biggest thing we can do and keep doing is stay focused on the goal of exposing.
You know, everything we can and bring the people together.
And it's a great invitation, a great thing we're all looking forward to, to talking to Todd Callender, having Susan give a chance to talk to her.
And it sounded to me like Todd was interested in more than just, he said, I'll platform you.
Meaning, he didn't limit it to, he said, we're only going to do one show.
We can develop another, like Jim has.
What Victor Hugo has done with his behavior is he's lost his audience because he's hardly getting any views anymore and he's united all of us.
Well, sometimes good can come out of the dumps of fire.
You know what I mean?
Way to go, Victor.
I think your big plan kind of backfired, and you're going down the toilet.
And Todd Callender is going to show up and basically disavow you.
Mike wants to add a thought.
Go ahead.
I just want to leave one last thought with everybody.
Don't forget to visit Israel, land of the Christ killers.
All their advertising, all their brochures.
Patrick, go ahead.
I would just like to say everybody have a happy Easter.
Good. Why not?
Ex-Gentile, did you want to add a thought?
You know, I'm glad you're fully exposing Donald Trump for who he is.
I tried telling you that in the scriptures, Donald Trump is known as the dragon whose deadly wound was healed when he got shot.
And he gives power and authority to the second beast, who is Elon, who exercises the same authority that the first beast has.
I'm telling you now.
You guys are in a lot of trouble, and I just want to leave you with that.
I'm glad you're waking up with Donald Trump, but don't call NRBN and say Jewish gatekeeper, because the Jewish gatekeeper will block you and won't let you say stuff like that about the Jews.
I'm telling you now.
Thanks. Thanks for that.
I think we had the third caller.
Did you want to add a final thought, too, please?
Anyone left out there?
Anyone want to say add a final thought?
I would.
Okay. Bill, go ahead.
Okay, the Sandy Hook case, let's say I came on board late.
Obviously, Jim and I, we did the motion to open, motion to recuse.
Judge Remington violated procedural aspects of the motion.
There's been a lot more since I've been digging into.
We're looking forward to reporting on that, letting people know what we learned.
And any misunderstandings I had between me and Jim and what was happening in all this?
We're viable questions that we bounce back and forth.
Hey, listen, we're here now.
We're trying to go forward to expose it on another level that this FOIA hearing totally destroys the credibility of the system.
You got a guy that's really a bull in a China shop as far as the internet is concerned, and he has to be reined in.
These platforms have to be held to their terms of service.
Or the whole internet is going to become nothing but a den of iniquity, defamation, corruption, falsehoods, nothing but lies.
Joaquin, would you agree with that?
Yeah, obviously I do.
I'm just all about trying to find out the truth and telling the truth.
That's my whole thing in life because there's so much deception in this world and so much evil going on.
So that's my focus is just uncovering the shit going on.
And there's a lot of it.
Ross, Ross, your final thoughts?
That's all I've got today.
You missed my meme, though.
Okay, the meme of the day on my side.
We got this old baby boomer.
I'll make a host again if you want.
Oh, can you take a look real quick?
We'll take a look at the meme.
Yeah, it's just fine.
There you are, your host, my friend.
Go ahead.
All right, there's the meme.
Can you see it over there?
It hasn't shown up yet.
4chan hacked and top country's total post has been revealed.
Over on the right, the meme of the day.
Oh, the entire world hates Israel.
Let's see why.
Six minutes later, turned into Hamas, right?
I mean, that's what you're talking about.
Once you see what's going on.
4chan is controlled by Mossad.
Top story is that 4chan is hacked and the top countries by total post on Paul have been revealed.
Everyone, spend as much time with your family or friends that we believe you love and care about because we do not know how much time we have left.