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The Raw Deal (12 February 2025) Fearsome Threesome Edition with Russ Winter and Joachim Hagopian
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It's younger than today.
I never need anybody's help in any way.
But now these days we're gone and I'm not so self-assured.
But I'll find the channel line and open up the door.
Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
That no one is safe to be right.
This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, right here on Revolution Radio Live this 12th day of February, 2025, right here on Revolution Radio Live this 12th day of February, 2025, on
This is a fearsome threesome edition of the show where Joaquin Govian is with me and we expect Ross Winter to join.
We begin with the latest polls evaluating Trump's performance in office and, frankly, they're spectacular.
I don't think anyone expected this to be so positive, but it is.
With most describing it as tough, energetic, focused, and effective doing what he promised to do during his campaign, Trump has started his term with net positive marks from Americans overall.
Many say he's doing more than they expected, and of those who say this, more like what they see.
Very few think he's doing less.
His partisans and his voters in particular, Say he's got the right amount of focus on matters like ending diversity, equity, and inclusion programs and deporting those who are in the country illegally.
His deportation policy finds majority approval overall, just as most voters said they wanted during the campaign.
And that extends to sending troops to the border, too.
One key issue looms.
Most Americans say the admin isn't focused enough on lowering prices.
Inflation was a key reason Trump won the election.
Here we have describing Donald Trump.
Tough, 69%.
Energetic, 63%.
Focus, 60%.
Effective, 58%.
A large majority moreover say...
He's doing what he said he would, whether they approve of him or not.
And that would be like doing what he promised in the campaign, 70 percent.
Different than 30. Overall job rating, approval, 53 percent.
47 disapprove.
I am having trouble showing up where that 47 percent could have come from.
During the campaign, most voters, and overwhelmingly Trump voters, Support the idea of a new mass deportation program.
So today's approval of the current program remains in alignment with that sentiment.
Trump's admin program to deport immigrants illegally in U.S. approved 59%.
Disapproved 41%.
Comparatively, more Americans are in favor of sending U.S. troops to the border.
And while they're split on the idea of...
Creating large detention centers where people would be kept.
Trump 2024, voters are strongly in favor.
Saying troops at the border, 64% approved, 36% not.
Our detention centers, this is the only issue on which he has more opposition than support.
Favor 48, oppose 52. Israel and Gaza.
Trump's handling of the Israeli-Hamas conflict draws overall positive marks, driven largely by support from Republicans.
Trump's handling of Israel-Hamas conflict approved 54%, disapproved 46%.
One item in particular, the recent recent comments about taking over Gaza.
To wide attention, most Americans say they heard about.
Very few outright think that would be a good idea.
However, I like this because I agree.
I think it's a terrible idea.
The matter often opens more insight into how Americans view Mr. Trump's approach.
Most think his goal, at least partially, is really to open up negotiation for something else.
U.S. trying to take over Gaza would be good idea, 13%.
Bad idea, 47%.
Not sure, depends, 40%.
Prices and tariffs?
Most Americans today feel the new admin isn't focusing enough on lowering prices of goods and services.
Lowering prices is the one item that a solid majority agree Mr. Trump's team should be focusing upon more.
That includes almost half of Republicans, even if, as they say, he's focusing the right amount on a wide range of other issues.
Trump's focus on lowering prices is not enough, 66%.
Right amount, 31%.
Too much, 3%.
The tariff issue?
They're more supportive of tariffs on China, 56% than Mexico, 44%.
Europe, 40%.
Canada, 38. Dodge.
Elon Musk.
Influence over government operation and spending should be a lot.
23%.
Some.
28. Put those together and you get 51%.
Not much.
18. None.
31. Influence over government operation and spending should be a lot.
This is breaking down by party.
Republicans.
30, some 44, that's already 74%.
Democrats, a lot only 17, some 13, that's only 30%.
Overall, this is, in my opinion, quite sensational.
And because Russ has just joined, I want to go back and just observe.
Trump's getting fabulous poll results, Russ, fabulous poll results.
Virtually across the board.
Joaquin, your thoughts about these poll results?
Well, all we're seeing in the media these days is what he's doing with the Elon Musk affair, which is a positive thing to cut down the government.
You know, we're at, you know, two trillion dollars or something paying off interest every year, which doesn't even it's more than the defense budget that America spends on.
So, I mean, a lot of people are in favor of cutting down the fat, the leftist, Marxist kind of USAID and all the rest of the wasted money on DEI and wokeism.
Just, you know, regime change operations, CIA. You know, obviously a lot of people are in favor of all of that.
And that's pretty much hitting the press and almost all you ever hear about.
So it's easy to see why those ratings are so favorable for him.
Yeah.
Well, go ahead.
I think he deserves.
Those ratings, Russ, your thoughts, I don't know how much you caught, but I'm telling you, they're very positive.
So what I saw there is that actually Elon Musk's rating is pretty low, even though he's the guy driving this stuff.
Is that kind of correct, what I just saw there when I entered?
I don't think that is correct.
No, it's just the way they broke down the Musk.
They had it into two categories, a lot versus some.
And when you put a lot together with some, you get a pretty high number.
So he gets good ratings, too?
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Good ratings, too.
Go ahead.
Here.
Well, you know, I know it's half full, half empty with me, as usual, because I'm just constantly black-pilled.
But, you know, a lot of these are directed at his political opponents.
I noted, for instance, the Pritzer family was exposed for having received money.
These monies in 64 different NGOs that they run.
I mean, my goodness.
That's just monstrous.
That's a huge story.
If they're spending that much money and getting that much political favoritism, and then you've got the Holocaust and Israel, the university's getting a billion dollars.
So, I'm just kind of wondering when...
Trump's going to go after his people on the endless grift that this country is all about, the United States is all about.
Look at this, Russ.
U.S. trying to take over Gaza would be a good idea.
Only 13%.
Bad?
That's reassuring.
That's good.
Bad idea.
Yeah, bad idea.
Very bad.
Terrible.
Ghastly.
Tariffs kind of mixed, but here's the Musk stuff that you were asking about.
See, they say, must be, should be a lot, 23 some, 28. You put the two together and you get 51%.
He needs to get together with law enforcement.
So that's what I wonder about, because, you know, there's some tremendous amount of grifting and stealing graph going on here.
And who's being sent to jail?
Who's going to be prosecuted?
That's got to come.
Otherwise, this is just kind of like, oh, caught you, you know.
You grifted a bunch of money.
We caught you.
Tag, you're it.
His other area that he's doing very well with, obviously, is the border because he's backing it up with action, which is a good thing also because, obviously, that's going to be a story of our country.
You know what, though?
There's going to be a narco war.
That's coming.
What do you guys think of that?
I had a report yesterday of a train bringing like 79 tanks to the southern border.
I mean, this is going to be serious.
And also, Ukraine has been reselling American equipment sent to Ukraine to the cartels.
That's how rough they are.
Yeah, so corrupt.
They're selling to the Mexican cartel, drug cartels.
That's horrible.
And they've been doing that all along, you know, all along while we've been supplying them with weapons.
They have a black market that goes to terrorists and all the rest of the cartels.
It's sick.
They start sending drones down to Mexico and killing some...
Cartel members, little brother.
Let's say kill somebody in your family in your cartel.
I mean, those people are sworn to revenge.
Very vengeful people.
And that'll spill over into probably all over the United States, but particularly places like Texas and California.
There'll be, you know, like the narco wars in Columbia.
There'll be a lot of sabotage.
It'll be all-out war.
I mean, I guess it has to be done.
I'm not saying it has to be done, but, you know, again, why didn't they interdict all these weapons?
How did they allow that to happen?
Who's going to go to jail for that?
I mean, somebody's got to go to jail for that.
Send him to jail.
Right.
Let's start arresting these people that are supplying the cartels.
Yeah, yeah.
Look, look, look.
I think that's coming.
He's doing so much good stuff.
Let me mention other stories here because there are so many.
Get this.
Yeah, hang on.
Here we go.
FEMA CEO and three other employees are canned over the 59. $59 million payment to luxury hotels.
They have been sacked.
This is wonderful.
Oh, my goodness.
The federal emergency management has fired four employees, including the chief financial officer, Mary Comans, over the galling $59 million payment made last week to luxury hotels in New York City to house the illegal aliens.
Department of Government Efficiency Chief Elon Musk Monday sounded the alarm about the payout on X. Monday morning in acting, FEMA Director Cameron Hamilton quickly responded.
The payments would be stopped and those responsible held accountable.
The Department of Homeland Security put out a statement Tuesday saying effective immediately.
FEMA is terminating the employment of four individuals who are circumventing leadership to unilaterally make egregious payments for luxury New York City hotels for migrants.
Firing include FEMA chief financial officer, two program analysts, and a grant specialist.
Under President Trump and Secretary Noem's leadership, DHS will not sit.
Idly buy and allow deep state activists to undermine the will and safety of the American people.
I mean, that's going to greatly increase his popularity, if you ask me.
But again, who received the payments?
Who's the owner of these hotels that are involved in this grifting?
It doesn't seem like you throw some bureaucrats under the bus, as well as they should be thrown under the bus, but I want to know who's receiving the money.
Who's doing the grifting?
I just gag whenever I hear these stories.
The level of corruption and grifting is so enormous.
But who's benefiting?
Que bono!
Well, I'll tell you who's losing.
The taxpayers, they were double dipping the charges there.
So, yeah, it's pretty crazy.
But, you know, this stuff has to come out.
The story breaks.
Let's see what happens with who actually goes down and has to pay for it.
And that's going to come out, I assume, because the American people cannot allow it to just die and then nothing happens.
As Paul Harvey said, and for the rest of the story, I think that's what we're talking about.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, Russ, you're absolutely right when I say give him the chance to...
Dig deeper and sort it out.
I think it's going to happen.
This Musk guy is an effing genius at sorting this stuff out.
I'm so impressed.
And by the way, did you notice Trump said he wasn't pushing J.P. Vance for president in 2028. I think he's going to support Musk.
I think they get along so well, and Musk is proving such a genius at it.
I think actually Trump is going to support Musk for that role.
Now here's a very nicely written piece.
Trump unveils Bolt's plan to transform Gaza into a peaceful resort.
Donald Trump recently laid out a grand blueprint for transforming the Gaza Strip from a war-torn disaster area into a peaceful paradise, which sounds nice.
For a Friday afternoon, but let's get real here.
This is the same region that's seen more drama than a reality show season finale.
Yet Trump is all set to change the narrative.
Perhaps he imagined an episode entitled Gaza Makeover from Ruins to Resorts.
In his latest musings on Truth Social, Trump declared that Israel should hand over Gaza.
To the U.S., once the findings subsides.
It's safe to say that such a transfer might require more than a simple handshake.
Wasn't going to chuckle at the thought of Trump scouting local real estate listings that turned the rubble of gauze into new and modern homes.
There's a good chance those homes will have gold-bladed fixtures and a golf course or two, right?
Trump's vision also includes...
Rehoming Palestinians, an endeavor he feels could be achieved with that gentle touch of American intervention.
Of course, he didn't really think through why Chuck Schumer got tossed into the mix.
A Jewish senator's name does put out an interesting spin on the idea of resettlement.
But let's ignore the possible faux pas.
After all, it's difficult to question the logic when speaking about a region that has so famously been Labeled as unlucky, much like Cleveland's sports teams.
Not a moment worthy of the most exaggerated geopolitical soap opera.
Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz followed up on Trump's comment with a plan that could let Palestinian civilians pack their bags and embark on a quest for greener pastures.
The decision involves creating exit routes through land, sea, and air.
One wonders if airlines would be handing out complimentary drinks on these last-minute escapes.
What an opportunity for someone with an imagination.
I like the tone of that because the sarcasm is so appropriate.
Joaquin, your thoughts?
Well, this is the area where Trump is really messing up.
I mean, he's incurred so much resistance and opposition to this whole, you know...
The harebrained idea he's got, you know, to do an investment and get rid of the Palestinians permanently.
Yeah, we can't let this just be washed under the rug either, because obviously the Middle East is the hotspot of the world.
Ukraine is dying down.
The war is going to end.
But the big spot is Gaza.
And Hezbollah with Lebanon and, of course, Iran, the big shot of the Middle East.
So, you know, we can't let this slide, and it's not going to because there's going to be major flare-up and pushback because this plan is not going to work.
Yes.
Yes.
Russ?
Well, the Muslim world seems pretty united against it.
I mean, again, I don't know what that means exactly.
I mean, they're having big meetings.
They're issuing very sarcastic statements in some cases.
The Saudi Arabians did.
And just illustrating disgust.
But I noticed that the King of Jordan kind of had to eat shit a little bit lately.
I mean, kind of backpedaled.
Sounds like he might be...
He just made a visit here, of course, to Trump.
Does that mean he's talking about accepting more Palestinians?
I mean, Jordan is flooded with millions of Palestinians.
Why would he visit Trump, period?
At all?
Given what we just read.
Trump's plan.
I mean, I could see maybe back channels.
What do you mean, Donald?
What are your actual plans?
Why are you mentioning us so often as a recipient of a bunch of refugees?
But then to fly off to Washington, D.C. and eat shit?
I heard that he stood up to basically the whole idea that Jordan should take more refugees.
I don't think he's completely saying, okay, Donald, bring him in.
He's not doing that.
Maybe I didn't get the story straight.
I was reading some tweets actually before I came on the air talking about this, being kind of critical of him.
I don't want to be guilty of...
I don't want to be like Nightshade Wayne Wayne Young.
Not doing any research.
By the way...
I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe he stood tall, but I kind of wonder why...
Hey, my English is not so good.
I mentioned Ukraine, and there's been a major development.
Listen to this.
At least one person was killed and four others were injured in the northern part of the country.
Two others were injured in a Russian attack targeting critical infrastructure, according to officials.
The country's air force says it was able to shoot down most of those missiles and drones.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth addressed the Ukrainian Defense Contact Group this morning in Brussels.
In his remarks, he signaled a shift in just how far the U.S. is willing to go in its support of Ukraine.
We will only end this devastating war and establish a durable peace by coupling allied strength with a realistic assessment of the battlefield.
We want, like you, a sovereign and prosperous Ukraine.
But we must start by recognizing that returning to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic objective.
CBS News senior foreign correspondent Holly Williams is monitoring all of this from London.
Holly, what is the reaction in Europe, from NATO, from others, from the Ukrainians, about what Secretary Hykseth is saying, that the sovereign borders of Ukraine may not look the way that it did before the invasion by the Russians?
Good morning, Vlad.
Well, there was quite a lot of meat to what the Secretary of Defence said.
He said, quote, the bloodshed must stop, this war must end.
Now, that's not surprising.
We know that President Trump wants to end the war in Ukraine.
He said he wants a sovereign Ukraine, or the US wants a sovereign Ukraine.
That is an independent Ukraine.
But, as you just heard, he said a return to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders is unrealistic.
Now, remember, the first time that Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine was back in 2014, when he annexed Crimea and began...
Now, that statement from the Secretary of Defence suggests that the US supports some or all of that territory becoming Russian territory permanently.
And there was another important qualification as well.
Hegs had said that the US supports robust security guarantees to stop Russia from reinvading Ukraine, but does not support NATO membership for Ukraine, which would potentially commit the US to Coming to Ukraine's defence if it's attacked again.
And he said that US troops would not be part of any international peacekeeping force in Ukraine.
The overarching message of what he said was that the US is committed to NATO and is committed to its European partners.
But he said that the US's primary focus is at home and in the Pacific where it's trying to deter a conflict with China.
And he said that he wants Europe to do more to guarantee its own security.
So, Holly, if you're Ukrainian and you're listening to these comments, essentially it sounds like what the president, through the Secretary of Defense, is saying is, okay, for Russia's illegal actions, they get to keep a portion of Ukraine.
The United States isn't going to do anything about that.
And by not allowing Ukraine to join NATO, and also by not being part of a peacekeeping mission...
What's to prevent Vladimir Putin from doing it again, given that he will have kept the spoils of war?
So, are you hearing at all any reaction from Kyiv?
Look, there hasn't been any official response that I'm aware of, but we've had a new interview with Vladimir Zelensky in the UK's Guardian newspaper.
He said that any security guarantees need US involvement because he said that Europe cannot do it by himself.
Zelensky has long wanted NATO membership for Ukraine.
That's exactly the opposite of what the Secretary of Defence said today.
And when it comes to those pre-2014 borders, we know that Ukraine envisages doing some kind of land swap as part of a ceasefire deal.
That it has seized in Russia in return for its own territory coming home.
Whether or not it's willing to give up on Crimea, for instance, we don't know at this point.
Also in that interview, very interestingly, Zelensky seemed to be playing to President Trump the businessman, talking about offering US companies lucrative reconstruction contracts, access to Ukrainian rare earth and investment concessions.
So seeming to offer Trump a kind of quid pro quo.
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Well, just to elaborate with a little background, Vladimir Putin has made it clear that he would not accept Ukraine membership in NATO ever.
That he was going to keep all the territories Russia has taken possession of, the Donbass, Moor, and Crimea.
that he wanted the demilitarization of Ukraine and also the denazification now.
Trump has seemingly been very naive with the figures he had about massive Russian losses versus Ukrainians, when the fact is the opposite.
This seems to me to reflect a new note of reality about what's going on.
Trump did say he's had a conversation with Putin.
I think Putin has made it very clear what he wants.
Joaquin, I find this a sensational positive development.
Your thoughts?
Yeah, it is, really.
Because I think the United States and Trump are realizing they have no bargaining chips.
Russia's going to keep their annexed territory.
They're going to finish the job.
And there's nothing the United States or any other country can do about it.
So I think Hegseth and Trump are finally realizing, yep.
The ball's in Russia's court to get this thing done, and we have no power to do anything to stop Russia, much less Ukraine has any power to stop Russia.
So yeah, I think they're talking reality now, finally, and it looks like it will probably come to a close within the next couple of months, hopefully.
Yeah, I agree.
Russ, your thoughts?
Okay, yeah, the real politic was there.
I mean, you're going to have to probably turn these Russian areas over to Russia.
That's kind of a given.
But you know, there's some things in there that I didn't really like.
It kind of just disturbs me about the world in general.
I just call it predatory kleptocracy.
So here, poor old Ukraine.
Okay, we're going to give up the Russian areas.
We're going to have to do some real politics.
And meanwhile, Zelensky...
Zelensky...
Joaquin, can you infer what Russ was about to say?
Yeah.
Remember, this is coming from CVS, and they are very biased anti-Trump.
I don't think they've done any honest reporting in the last 10 years.
What do you think?
Zelensky was making some unrealistic assertions, of course.
Go ahead.
Well, Zelensky...
He's giving away all the mineral rights to his country.
He's making concessions because he has absolutely no bargaining chips.
The United States and Ukraine have no bargaining chips whatsoever.
It's interesting, though, that he's throwing in, yeah, I'll give you this and this that Ukraine's got.
Like he has any say in this matter.
Right.
And as Putin has emphasized, Ukraine doesn't have a president because his term expired in May.
I mean, what the hell is going on there?
He's not even legitimate.
Yeah, he pretends to be the president of Ukraine, but he actually has no bona fides.
Embarrassingly bad.
There's so much more going on here.
We're hopeful that Russ can rejoin us.
Here's Trump.
Yeah, we've already got the plan there.
Here's an absolutely wonderful piece.
I got him, Alistair Crook, talking about what's going on with Bibi and why there's funny business here that we shouldn't be deceived.
But he's so good at explaining what Trump is doing, Trump's style.
This is the best I've ever heard on this.
You pronounce wrong.
Two years before your brain starts shutting down.
Dementia.
Or go to learjudgenap.com and tell them the judge sent you.
Judge Napolitano.
Here we go.
Mr. Crook, welcome here, my dear friend.
Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu just spent a week in Washington, D.C. Meeting with the President of the United States without the American Secretary of State.
Meeting with the congressional leaders as well.
And spending time in a secured area of the Pentagon without any security check on him or the personnel with him.
Do you think he had something up his sleeve?
And do you think Donald Trump had something up his sleeve, so to speak, when they finally met and had their joint press conference?
Well, I think what was actually up Netanyahu's sleeve was a great deal of fear and trepidation because he was in a deep bind.
He came to Washington believing that Trump and Whitcoff, Trump's envoy, was going to put maximum pressure on him.
To go to phase two of the hostage release from Gaza.
And he had this impossible dilemma.
The agreement, the first phase of which is already expired on the 16th, is now in the second phase, although it hasn't begun.
And he does not want that to go ahead.
He doesn't want a second phase of hostages to be released.
And he is also, first of all, signed up to the second stage and third stage.
It is part of the agreement of which America is a guarantor along with Qatar in Egypt.
And at the same time he gave a secret undertaking, which is held in the vaults in Tel Aviv, that he would go back to war against Hamas and not do the second phase.
And so he didn't know how this was going to turn out and he was going to try and divert Trump towards Iran or some other bases.
And then Trump surprised him.
By coming out, not with just a sort of comment that he'd made earlier about maybe some Palestinians could go to Jordan or Egypt.
He came out and said, I'm going to take the whole of Gaza and I'm going to turn it into the Riviera.
So, I mean, that did surprise Netanyahu and it took some time for him to regain his composure.
But part of this, I think we have to look at what's going on and understand it more clearly.
Trump is a showman.
We all know that.
A big showman.
And what he does is he uses these sort of big ideas, these big sort of shiny ideas, and then not necessarily connected to reality, but they're intended, if you like.
To shock people, surprise people, and in a sense to try and break up congealed, stultified geopolitical paradigms.
To find some space to make people think things through in a different way.
And so when he said this about Gaza...
Of course, it's never going to happen that it's going to be ethnically cleansed and rebuilt.
It's not going to happen.
What was the point of it?
The point of it, well, there's a history to the point of it.
And the history is this, that in, I think it was 2018, Israel was on the verge of annexing large swathes of the West Bank.
And there was a great outrage about this in the West and in the Arab world, this annexation.
And what happened was that Trump did a deal with the UAE. He said, okay, no annexation, and in return, you will then normalize with Israel.
Which they did.
And they normalized.
And I think what you're seeing here is what...
Trump intends is to do something similar with Saudi Arabia at the right moment.
He will say, look, I gather the Arab world is aghast at what is being proposed, that there will be no more Palestinians in Gaza.
Well, Mohammed bin Salman, you know, I think I could probably end that or we could put it aside and forget it.
But will you normalize with Israel without insisting on a full Palestinian state?
And if you do that, then we can...
I don't think it'll happen, what's going on in Gaza.
And this is part of his big plan about Iran, Saudi Arabia, the Abraham Accords, being, if you like, a new Middle East.
And I think, you know, this idea of a trademark way of doing politics, of surprising people.
Of saying something outrageous in order to sort of loosen up politics, to shift them and move them and try and find an opening.
Look, I mean, there's some validity to it.
But it also has its downsides.
I mean, I think, you know, it's possible he'll do this eventually.
And, of course, Saudi can't refuse him if he does it with the pressure from Gaza.
And also it's going to loosen up the Arab states.
If there is a phase three of the hostage deal, phase three is the reconstruction of Gaza.
And I think, you know, he'll say, listen, do you want me to send all these Palestinians abroad or are you going to reconstruct Gaza in accordance with, in association with the United States?
That's how it's got to be.
You've got to do this.
Otherwise, I might go back to my plan to create the Riviera and remove all the Palestinians from the era.
Do you think...
Can I just quickly say, it achieved two major things.
Please.
It saved Netanyahu's government from collapse and perhaps turmoil in Israel.
The Israelis, in the wake of these releases, are really angry.
The hostages have been so long.
491 days or something?
491 days!
And they came out looking gaunt and unfed.
And they immediately, the Israelis said, you know, it's like they've come from Belsen.
I mean, you know, you can't wait.
You know, Netanyahu, you've got to do the deal now, before these people die.
They're in bad condition.
We need the hostages done.
Miriam Adelson has flown directly to Washington in her private jet and told Netanyahu, do the deal, get it done, quickly, now.
And so there's a lot of pressure, if you like, in that point.
But equally, what it has done, in a sense, is Trump has also normalized the idea of ethnic cleansing by saying, you know, I'm going to do it.
And it's somehow actually normalized it.
So the right wing in Israel are going down that path and making all sorts of plans.
Even if we return to war, they say, in Gaza, ultimately we have plans for how to get rid of the Palestinians.
We're examining it.
We've even found a possible place that they can go.
Voluntary expulsion from Gaza.
So Netanyahu is literally Teetering on the edge.
Netanyahu has him totally under his thumb because he's going to insist on the second phase, which may mean that he loses his government.
He's going to insist also on the ceasefire in Lebanon.
Everything hangs on Trump and Whitcoff and Netanyahu is not well.
He's very much weakened.
He's under pressure.
His poll ratings are failing because it's clear to everyone he's not going to do a phase two.
It's clear to Hamas, so there may not be a phase two.
But Israel does not want to go and release the remaining.
I think there are something like 87 hostages, not all of whom are alive.
He's not going to go there.
Let me just say, in my opinion, this guy gave the best critique or explanation of, Well, I think he's being trumped by Netanyahu, actually, because Netanyahu is doing what he always does, renege on previous agreements.
He's already basically threatening that...
That all the hostages must be released.
And that wasn't part of the deal.
By Saturday.
And he's demanding that every hostage be released or he's going big guns back into Gaza with his troops.
So it's like, you know, he knows he's going to sabotage.
He also knows he's losing this war.
And so he's desperate.
And he wants to...
Inflict bigger war where America saves him.
And I can't trust Trump to not save him.
Trump seems to be completely controlled by Israel and the donors that own him.
So I don't have a lot of faith.
It appears very clear he does not want page 2 to go forward where the Hamas has.
I don't know if they were going to release.
18 more hostages.
And Israel, something like 1,600 Palestinians.
I mean, it was a staggering number by comparison.
Russ, your critique.
Well, I don't know what I was saying when I got cut off.
I'm in a resort in Egypt in this sort of spotty here.
I just find it really repugnant that everything seems to revolve around deals and reconstruction and war booty and carving things up and bringing a bunch of kleptocrats in to do business, sitting across the table.
Well, Saudi Arabia will give you a cut of this.
UAE will give you a cut of this.
You know, all the Jewish henchmen get...
Are clearly going to be big winners in all this stuff.
And I don't like that.
I just think it's morally repugnant.
That's kind of my starting point on all this.
I realize it's real politic.
You've got to get things done.
The situation in Ukraine, I think that the opening volley from Trump is reasonable.
It's real politic.
But hidden behind it is this sickening little goo, corruption.
It's repugnant.
Whether it's building resorts in Gaza or doing deals in Ukraine and any of that.
What's more morally repugnant than genocide right now?
Of course, the whole thing is morally repulsive.
So you're putting it very mildly, Russ.
I mean, this is despicable.
And I was going to go down as one of the great monsters, one of the great villains of world history, Joaquin.
His deadline is on Saturday.
I know, Saturday noon, Shabbat noon.
And the problem is Trump has talked about that if a boss doesn't comply...
There's going to be hell to pay, so he's going to bring in B-52s.
If he does something like that, United States will never recover in the eyes of the world.
Meanwhile, West Bank, I mean, we've got to mention that.
They're very aggressive there.
So this policy is really going bad.
Yeah, Trump is backing Netanyahu's wild thing that he's going to go in there gangbusters.
Trump's behind that.
And here's the thing.
They were supposed to be delivering humanitarian aid to the Gaza people and building all these tents, bringing in all these hundreds of thousands of tents with these totally homeless people in Gaza.
Well, that hasn't happened.
Did you get the statistics on that, Jim?
On that part of the deal.
You get the statistics on what he just said?
No, say it again.
What Joachim said about the deal, the actual deal that was made in terms of humanitarian aid.
I'll give it to you.
Let me just find it.
I have one of my stories.
Hamas is not releasing the hostages because they recognize that Netanyahu is going to renege.
I mean, he knows he wants his work, but he's not going to give them theirs.
He is reneging.
Yeah, he is reneging.
And going after the West Bank.
So I don't see why they would cooperate at all.
Why would there be any cooperation whatsoever?
But here's the statistics.
You cannot normalize ethnic cleansing.
That's a war crime under international law, hate convention, UN charter.
It cannot be normalized.
It is a horrific aspect of Trump's description.
So it sounds like just moving all the Palestinians to Indonesia or something like that is the...
Obvious thing to do when it's completely offensive and inappropriate, as the Palestinians say, I'd rather die in Gaza than live anywhere else.
Here's the statistics.
Okay, they're supposed to bring in heavy equipment to remove rubble.
Completely stopped.
No heavy equipment has been brought in whatsoever.
They're supposed to bring in 200,000 tents.
They've only let in 20,000.
50 patients a day were supposed to be allowed to leave for treatment.
Less than 15% have been allowed to leave.
600 aid trucks were to be allowed in daily.
Only 70% have made it through.
So the Israelis have completely blocked the terms of the ceasefire.
The only thing they can do is stop bombing.
They stopped the genocide temporarily.
That's the only thing they've done.
And I'd say, what else would we expect, right?
I mean, that's their practice.
There's nothing new here.
I mean, it's just the same old pattern repeating itself nonstop.
And Trump buying it and backing them.
So, yeah, this is a war that's already ready to explode and become bigger.
He's not an honest broker.
Iran is the background.
If he was an honest broker, even for optics, even for decent optics, he says, get these 50 patients a day out of there.
Get them out of there.
Get some equipment in there to clear the rubble.
Tents, it's the middle of winter, let's get some tents in there.
He doesn't even do that.
He doesn't even try.
Not even on that, something like that, which is good optics.
I agree.
He's showing promise on Ukraine, but absolutely.
It's a disaster regarding Palestine.
Ukraine's got the smelly art of the deal all over us, you know, of turning the poor Ukrainians, what's left of it, over to a bunch of kleptocrats.
Oh, you're thinking even having oligarchs come in and take over the rest of Ukraine?
But I think that's already been the case.
Has it not, Joaquin, further thoughts?
Yeah, it's in Russia's terms.
They got it under toe, basically.
I think there's last-minute deals trying to be made by Zelensky and BlackRock.
You know, they're still trying to sort that out, that part of it.
Because, yes, there are stuff.
Although most of the minerals are actually in the Donbass region that are already Russia.
So, you know.
But yeah, there's a lot of behind the scenes.
But that war's phasing down, and the big one now is the Middle East.
Yes, yes, I couldn't agree more.
I think Trump and Hegseth and Walsh and all that have recognized Russia holds all the cards.
I mean, there's nothing the U.S. can do that can salvage the situation that the landscape, for example, might prefer, and he's not even a legitimate president.
So how bad is that?
So it looks like Zelensky's hanging around to administer the vulture stage.
That's sickening to me.
I mean, God, that guy has to go, bring some neutral parties.
There's just never any neutral parties.
There's nobody with any kind of sense of justice or morality anywhere in any of these conflicts.
Yeah.
I think that's right.
I think that's right.
As far as Mexico, I think we are going to have an all-out war with the cartels sending all those tanks down there as indicative.
We've got an aircraft carrier off the coast of Mexico.
He's, of course, affirmed that it's now the Gulf of America, no longer the Gulf of Mexico, which is a symbolic gesture.
It's certainly thematic with the idea of making America great again.
I mean, I don't have any problem with that, even though it's just window dressing.
How do you think this thing is going to go in Mexico, Joaquin?
Well, there's another hot spot that's getting hotter.
Yeah, I think there's going to be a war with Mexico drug cartel, which is also, of course, they control the government in Mexico, too.
So, yeah, there's going to be a war.
And all the sleeper cells of all the...
Terrorists that have come in from the border are also going to be activated.
So there's going to be a lot of domestic violence as well as actual war with our neighbor.
So that's a whole other can of worms opening up.
Yeah.
He's going to need a whole lot more.
He sent another, I don't know, 1,600 troops down there.
They're going to need 10,000.
And more, they're going to need like a division to take on these cartels, Russ.
Right.
Well, the cartels, you know, control a lot of the area on our side of the border, the U.S. side of the border.
So you can't just ignore that.
I mean, they've owned some of these towns.
And so you're going to get political...
Arizona, New Mexico, very much under their throne.
Right.
Right.
And, you know, so it's not just going over the border.
You're going to have to actually defend...
Large swaths of the United States from cartel offensives and revenge attacks and sabotage and the whole nine yards.
I mean, how many train lines are going to get blown?
I mean, it could be very economically...
Sabotage.
Yeah.
Guerrilla.
Oil wells, oil refineries.
Yeah.
And also, the state of Arizona, the government that stole the election there...
They make deals with the drug cartel.
They're working together.
So that's another factor that's working against America.
Yeah.
Yes.
They couldn't allow the legitimate because she wouldn't have been willing to make deals with the cartels.
Right.
Russ?
Yeah, I think we covered that.
I think...
I'm glad we're doing it.
I don't see too many other people paying much attention to it.
They're just saying, oh, yeah, go get the cartel.
No problem.
Well, what happens when somebody's younger brother gets killed by the federales, even?
I think it's going to be a ferocious conflict, and I cannot see it resolved in less than six months, maybe a year or more.
Joaquin, would you say?
Ten years.
Ten years.
Wow!
It's going to be another quagmire.
Just one more to add.
Right here.
Right here on our border.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's going to be Americans that will be dying again.
Again.
And very near to home.
Yeah.
Russ, I have other stories, but if either of you have some you want to raise, this is a good time.
We're about to hit the break.
Russ, you want to bring in some stuff right after the break?
Yeah, I'll take a look.
And I can make you host, too, so you can, you know, be...
I'll go ahead and do that right now, in fact.
I'll make you a host.
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Okay, let me run this.
Let's game this one out.
How about Trump setting up another stage assassination to be blamed on Iran?
Now, let me give you my theory how he could do it.
You get some kind of like wolf's lair situation, you know, the unsuccessful assassination of Hitler attempt in 44. So you get him in some meeting or some group of people, and all of a sudden a big bomb goes off, which once again, Trump miraculously survives, but maybe it takes out some very, very high-ranking officials or generals or important people.
I mean, a major hit to the machine.
And then you just blame it on Iran and take it from there.
Let me run that one at you guys.
I'll go first.
I don't think he's going to do it.
I think he's wise enough to realize Iran is so strong that any such attack would obviously involve its ally, Israel.
And Iran is prepared to abolish Israel militarily and has weapons that can reach the U.S. I have no doubt now.
Russia has provided them with hypersonic missiles.
Israel cannot stop, nor can the United States.
So I don't think he's going to be so reckless.
I do think Bibi would love something like that.
But my belief is he's not that dumb.
Joaquin, your thought.
Well...
I think it's a matter of him.
It's not an intelligence issue.
It's an issue of him being controlled by the interests of Israel.
And if you recall, just a few days ago, he actually signed a memorandum saying that if Iran comes after him, he's going and obliterating the...
So, I mean, it's like a setup already.
And, you know, we got, you know, Mossad operations going.
They're probably going to start something that will end up bringing America in with Israel.
To fight Iran.
And obviously, it's not going to just be against Iran.
Russia is their direct ally, strategic ally, and it's going to be a much bigger war.
So I think that's where they're taking us, you know.
Trump is smart.
He knows what's going on, but he's letting it happen.
He just basically said in that memorandum, make my day, Iran.
That's his attitude.
Yeah.
I mean, why would you even do that?
Why would you throw that out there?
Oh, we've got intelligence.
Because they're doing a false flag soon.
That's why.
I agree it's all set up.
I just think better angels are going to not allow it to happen.
But I agree with you.
Be me with nothing better.
He'd like B-52s over Gaza, for crying out loud.
And that would be just a catastrophe.
I'm just...
You know, there are points where you get nauseated with your own government because it's become so wretched, so foul, the stanch, evil.
Just appalling to me.
The United States has sunk to this low level of depravity.
Russ, give us another.
Well, here's in the grifting category, and this goes back to the Trump administration.
So the Pentagon spent $1 billion to audit their 2018 financials, and it failed the audit.
How does that work?
You spend $1 billion and you failed the audit?
Pentagon has never passed an audit, Russ.
They've never passed an audit.
And Musk has now been assigned to audit the Pentagon.
Can you imagine?
He's going to buy trillions!
trillions that have been misband appropriate, the corruption is going to be gargantuan.
Well, but again, who are the auditors that collect that kind of largesse?
Because that's the small scrutiny.
Let's make this point also.
Musk has made millions of dollars with contracts with our government, military contracts.
Let's hope there's transparency.
So far, he's operated his doche with transparency.
Well, let's hope that he continues with the audit of the Pentagon.
I believe he will.
I believe he will.
And he's getting so much positive response from the public, man.
I applaud all of this.
Russ, and by the way, if you want to take us to Winterwatch to show us the latest incarnation, I'd be pleased.
We can just talk about these stories.
People can go to winterwatch.net.
I mean, our listeners can go there and follow along.
I mean, I got some...
I got some good color right now.
I got some good pictures I can show you.
How about normalizing cannibalism and weaponizing celebrity culture for a story?
But I thought I'd look at South Africa.
Now, here's one which I really like what Trump's doing, because I've been a big fan.
The history of South Africa.
Let me give you the background of this.
You've got the Afrikaners.
And they're just multiple generations removed from their ancestry in Britain and the Netherlands.
So the Afrikaners went down there in the 1600s, South Africa.
You know, they ruled the Rus for a long time.
But then they got tossed out in a big way.
Just a massive DEI program.
There's a lot of poor white Afrikaners.
They're not doing that well.
And there's some remaining farmers that are kind of being rooted out.
And I've been kind of a proponent for half a decade of the right of return, letting these people come back to the Netherlands, which is where their bloodlines are, even the UK. And those countries really haven't really gotten engaged in that because they consider it racism.
They would rather let people in their old colonies come in, and rather than people in their own bloodline.
So the white Africaners have not been particularly welcome in Europe.
And Trump is talking about letting them come to the United States.
And my hat's off to him on that one. - Yeah, there's a case where I think legal immigration is appropriate.
I think in that case, it is appropriate.
There are special circumstances, political.
They've been savaged.
Mass murder against the Afrikaners has occurred.
It's been outrageous.
Even though it was they who developed South Africa and made it so prosperous and successful and a nation to be dealt with seriously in the world.
I mean, and they have been subject to slaughter.
Joaquin, your thoughts?
Yeah, I agree.
They're living under inhumane conditions and their lives are very cheap, basically how the government's treating it.
So, yeah, they should be allowed to come back and have a safe haven.
So I agree in this case with Trump allowing them to come to America.
And I think, yeah, they should go back to their roots in Europe as well.
I think that's a good idea.
Here's a positive thing that just happened.
They just voted in Tulsi Gabbard to be the director of national intelligence.
Yes, that's a big one.
Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski came around.
What was the vote walking?
Was it 50-50 with Vance Cassie and the deciding?
I think it was even a little better than that.
I think it was like 50. 50-plus versus 40-something.
But yeah, we did it.
We got it.
He's actually going to be really good.
This is a good omen for RFK Jr., too, I believe.
I think all three of the guys are going to get in.
Cash is going to make it, and so is Robert.
Tulsi, by far, was the one who had the worst chance.
That's right.
So if she's the first one to make it, yeah, the others will come in too.
And I've looked at this.
This is the best thing about the Trump administration is those three guys.
Yeah, I agree.
I'm very happy to see this.
I agree.
Russ, your thoughts?
Yeah, that's good news.
I used to be a huge Tulsi Gabbard fan.
I no longer am.
She doesn't really rank that high.
I even gave her money for a campaign, did some...
Good for you, Rose.
But I would never do that again.
I don't like her.
What's led to your disenchantment?
She just kind of sold out on the core principles.
Kind of went with the program.
Kind of got on board with the Zionist program.
She has been compromised a little bit with Israel.
I agree with that part.
They all have to in order to function in the government, it seems.
Yeah, I mean, it comes down to you want to have any kind of future career, Tulsi.
The Trump people think that you're attractive.
I mean, she is attractive.
I wanted her to be his VP running mate, not Van.
I prefer Tulsi.
Yeah, I agree.
Russ, give us another story.
Well, I'm kind of wondering what you think.
Going back to...
Getting engaged a little bit on stage deceptions.
What do you think of the whole voice of God mind control concept?
That you got patsy.
You know, you got the stage situations where these people are total cutouts, or you might have the patsy situation, you know, like Sirhan Sirhan, where you insert somebody in that's under voice of God mind control.
And your work on the...
Steve's Deception, what's your thinking on this?
Sirhan was hypnotized by a psychiatrist working for the CIA. I think it was a girl in the polka dot grass.
How about the Sarnoff brothers?
You think they might have been mind-controlled patsies?
That was all fabricated, totally fake.
They even had photographs of them in the crowd, and their backpacks exonerate them.
Zoker had one that was silver.
His Tamerlan had one that was big and baggy.
These were neat nylon.
They had a white square on it.
It was Kraft International that placed the bombs.
They were puff pieces.
They couldn't have killed anybody.
I say as a former artillery officer, unless you were sitting on top of them.
The globe was tweeting there was going to be demonstration bombs set off during the marathon for the benefit of bomb squad activities.
They put out a tweet in one minute in the library, one minute later in the library, the cameras zoom in, and there are bodies, missing arms and legs, but there is no blood.
And as Lorraine David made it endlessly after 25 years of trauma.
In terms of emergency trauma center at San Francisco General Hospital, you cannot have limbs blown off by a explosion.
The question is, they use audio technology to kind of put them in place.
I think they were just framed, Ross.
It was outrageous.
I actually was an amicus.
I wasn't partying to an amicus, pointing out the discrepancy with the backpacks.
To the Massachusetts Supreme Court.
And they went ahead anyway.
That was a totally rigged government op.
Yeah, right.
But so was Sirhan Sirhan.
That was kind of rigged, too.
That's kind of the point.
Well, look.
Sirhan was a CIA op.
I don't believe I could be wrong.
CIA was involved in Boston bombing.
I mean, that's an Obama thing.
You know, they financed a whole bunch of these FEMA ops.
I mean, we got the goods on a whole string of these, and it's really outrageous.
Lee wasn't mind-controlled either.
He was actually in the doorway.
He was just looking out when the JFK motorcade came by, and they just went out of the way to frame him.
In fact, with the new release, and I've been contacted by two reporters, and then...
They dropped me, I think, because I'm too hot to handle because of the Sandy Hook business, that they framed Lee by even having one of their guys be a body double for the backyard photographs.
Lee told Fritz, homicide detective investigating, that was his face pasted on someone else's body.
We've been able to prove that what he told Fritz was true.
He said he was a patsy, that he was in the doorway.
We've been able to prove that was true.
So, you know, but that then involved any mind control with Lee Oswald.
They were just going out of their way to frame him.
Joaquin, your thoughts?
We lost Russ again.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I think the Zarnoff twins, or they weren't twins, but anyway, the brothers were framed.
I don't necessarily think, you know how they do all the...
Mind control and the drugs and all of this to control them with handlers.
No, I don't think these two, the Sarnoff brothers, were in that category.
They were framed, I believe.
Yeah, and they had a defense attorney, Judy Clark, that winds up showing a lot of these phony cases who, while they were formally bled not guilty in the second paragraph of her opening statement, she said they didn't.
For the jury to contemplate the evidence, because she threw in the towel.
I actually wrote to the California Bar complaining about her performance here, because it was so blatant and proving the evidence was right at hand to their innocence, and they ignored it.
These bar associations are there to protect the attorneys, not the public.
And she's already had a poor track record for being biased in previous cases as well.
So, yeah, it's pretty sad.
It's such a travesty of injustice done to the brothers.
Yes, yeah, here we have Russ coming back.
So I think that they're going to be doing the votes on the Kennedy and Cash probably tomorrow.
But as I say, Tulsi was the one who had the most dire prospects.
Very, very good for both RFK Jr. and Cash.
Glad to have you back.
And I think once Cash Patel's in there, I think the whole Epstein thing's going to come down.
Yeah.
I'm really waiting on that.
By the way, hat tip to Gary for getting me back on these shows so fast.
He spotted me right away when I came back.
I wasn't sitting in the queue at all.
Boom!
I'm right on!
I'm back on!
Go ahead, Russ.
Go ahead.
There's another story you want to throw in here.
Okay, hang on a minute.
I had to restart everything.
I can pull up stories myself.
We got callers coming in today?
Yes, we will be having them.
Okay.
Well, I ran a series on the idea of feeling mind-controlled.
I'm kind of a big believer in the mind control, putting people in a dreamlike or daze-like state in place to be patsies.
And in some cases, actually to carry out crimes under the influence.
Yeah, they have psychotronic warfare that they use on basically the voice-to-skull methodology, you know, getting people to be under mind control and do what they're told.
Yeah, they've really developed the technology on that. - Well, that's why I worry about the graphing, you know, in the COVID vacs, creates a mind electronic barrier.
So I think when Klaus Schwab says you'll owe nothing, you'll be happier than you've ever been.
That's because your thoughts are no longer your own.
They're going to make you, induce you to feel happy.
I mean, who's going to be happy about having no home, no car, no stereo, no TV, blah, blah, no possessions?
It's idiotic.
Nobody's going to be happier to have no possessions.
So how fraudulent.
My theory is that Senwar is one of these guys.
They did brain surgery on him in prison, and that was the topic of my presentation at the conspiracy conference that she put on in December.
And I think that they got him.
They did brain surgery on him.
They had him for 20 years.
They really worked him over.
And I think this guy running Syria now is another one of these cases.
So, I mean, if it was barely successful with...
68 was the Suran Suran.
Just imagine what it's like now.
So this microwave audio technology that can project sound to the inner ear to give messages to a targeted individual.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But they did use that voice of God business in the Iraq War, and they scared the shit out of Iraqi soldiers who, you know, I think they may have used holographic projections, too.
I mean, it must have been.
They're good.
Yeah.
Yeah, there are numerous examples of people reporting mind control experiences on self-published webpages and videos.
These claims have generally been dismissed or gaslighted by the usual suspect.
I mean, when you see them being gaslighted, it's the usual suspects that come up with a term.
They call it delusional disorder.
Really?
Really?
That's all that's going on here?
And so it's like a typical tinfoil hat smear has been created to run gaslighting interference.
Unfortunately, I write tinfoil offers no protection.
These are used on the nothing-to-see-here move-along crowd as a distraction away from the actual practice.
Got to be going on big time right now.
I mean, Jesse Ventura, when he was active, did a series on this.
Yeah, yeah.
Look at targeted individuals.
I mean, there's thousands of them out there that are victims to this.
Yes.
Dr. Katherine Horton, particle physicist from Oxford, is champion of the legal cause on behalf of a targeted individual.
We could feature her on an occasion if that would be a good idea.
I think that would be great.
Yeah.
She's wonderful.
Okay, here's the story of Sir Ann for people that don't know the story.
Probably all of our listeners know this stuff really well.
I'll just say it anyway.
So Sir Ann claimed to have drunk coffee in a backstage area near the hotel pantry with a woman to whom he was attracted and who may have been involved with the conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy.
It's the polka-dot lady.
He stated that the unknown woman then took him into the pantry, which Sirhan described in his prison memory sessions as a dark room at the hotel, and that while in the pantry, the woman gave Sirhan a post-hypnotic coup to fire a gun in the direction of Robert Kennedy minutes later.
Sirhan was immediately subdued by several men in the pantry as Kennedy fell.
To the floor, fatally wounded.
So he claimed that after having coffee with a woman, the next thing his conscious memory can recall is being choked and unable to breathe moments after a Kennedy shooting.
He said, it's all vague now.
I'm sure you will have it all on your records.
I can't deny it or confirm it.
I just wish the whole thing had never happened.
And I think that actually Robert F. Kennedy Jr. pretty much accepts this view, this theory.
Oh, yeah.
William Pepper did brilliant work on this, as he did on RFK Jr.'s assassination.
And, Russ, there was a psychiatrist bragging about having hypnotized Sirhan for the CIA. I mean, he did a lot.
Yeah, William Jennings Bryant, like the great-grandson of William Jennings Bryant, the politician.
He was like a...
Total expert on this type of stuff.
Of course, Sirhan was just a distraction.
Bobby had refused Secret Service, and it was Roosevelt Greer and, you know, good guys grabbed Sirhan, but he was shot behind the right ear from an inch and a half by the security guard beside him, Thane Eugene or Eugene Thane Caesar.
Who I think is now sipping Mai Tais in Tahiti.
And as Bobby fell, he kept shooting.
And he hit his body two more times.
And another shot went through his jacket.
And when Bobby fell, he grabbed his tie.
And you can see in some photographs, his tie clasp is sitting on the pantry floor as Bobby's dying.
Well, I came across a clip that I had on my round of web a while back.
I can't really find it right now.
And it shows the clip of him leaving the podium.
At the Ambassador Hotel.
Ambassador Hotel is Jewish-owned, and this Jewish owner was very, very involved.
He just was kind of on the scene, you know, and certain Jewish individuals were kind of pushing Bobby around, directing him, you know.
Yeah, Bobby was supposed to go out through the grand ballroom, and he got diverted to the pantry, and I think it was Tom Messowitz, one of his prime advisors who happened to be Jewish.
And it was totally trusted by Bobby.
I mean, it was very bad.
A couple of CIA agents were observed there in the ambassador, by the way.
Right.
Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
And the LA cops, you know, were in on it.
In fact, they dismantled.
There were so many bullet holes in the pantry.
They dismantled it.
They took it apart.
And then they didn't keep it.
Why, they claimed?
Because it wouldn't fit into a file cabinet.
You know, a little card cabinet.
So you would expect that to happen.
You know, this assassination really changed history.
And probably a lot of younger people that don't remember this or appreciate the significance of it.
But I think the country would have gone in a really different direction if he'd become president.
And he was kind of a tough guy, and he's very principled.
He's exactly the kind of person we need now.
You know, when I kind of complain about these plutocrats, that's not what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was about.
Right.
Or senior, I mean.
Even higher opinion of RFK than I did of JFK, and I was very devoted to JFK. Exactly.
And then the other one, which you know, I mean...
You've done a lot of work on this.
You wrote a book on it.
I'm just going to keep reminding people of the great work that Jim Spencer does.
That's why I'm here on these shows.
I'm going to bring this up to just fucking remind people that there's a lot of very good history done by James Fett.
Hold that thought for us.
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Well, we have three callers to anybody, but before we get there, Russ, I was so appreciating what you were saying.
Were you about to allude to Paul Wellstone and his death?
Yeah, let me tee it up for you, and then let's go into his assassination, because you've got a lot of background on it.
But first, I'll just give you the back.
I'll give everybody the background of who he was.
First of all, he's Jewish, so in all fairness, it's the Jews' claim in this case is kind of an exemption because he was a very good man.
Unfortunately, good Jews seem to die.
That seems to be a consequence of being a forthright Jew.
Very sad story.
He was campaigning for a third term when he died in a plane crash, and the crash occurred just 11 days before his election, and he was well ahead in the polls.
His seat went to his Republican Party rival, and that tipped the scales for a GOP majority in the U.S. Senate.
Wellstone was one of the last spirited anti-war progressive populists on the scene.
He opposed the first Gulf War in 1991, and in the months before his death, spoke out and voted against the government's threat to go to war with Iraq again.
So, Kei Bono, who profited from this death?
So go ahead, Jim.
Give me your...
Yeah, yeah.
If anyone wants to see before I retired from UMD... University of Minnesota, Duluth, I gave a three-parter on JFK 9-11 and Wellstone, and they're republished as Flash Lectures on my assassinationscience.com website.
So if you scroll down to the bottom of the menu on the left, you'll find a Paul Wellstone lecture.
There's also a huge amount done by Snowshoe Films.
They've done like...
Three hours, including interviewing the witnesses I was citing and so forth.
Yeah, really good.
Really good.
A very, very good documentary.
Important documentary.
Yeah, wonderful stuff.
We could do a whole show on Wellstone, Russ, at some point here in the near future.
So I do have to recall.
And of course, he was trying to investigate the Nebraska scandal.
He was the investigator in charge of that.
When he went down.
The Franklin scandal?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We got three callers.
I think we got Paul, Brian, and if I'm not mistaken, Frank.
Paul, go ahead and start out.
Give us your thoughts.
Well, I'm happy to go first, I guess.
I think I'll do what I would call a black pill.
You know, maybe I kind of feel it's my obligation here.
I was watching a video the other day on YouTube, and I watch a lot of these.
Crime, you know, police interaction videos and so on and so forth.
And it kind of reminded me what I really believe Trump is.
And the way that these shoplifters work sometimes, especially at these 7-Elevens and other places, they'll have at least two, sometimes three, but typically like two guys will go in and one guy will be up at the counter and in many cases be chit-chatting and all friendly and the other guy's back, you know, at the cooler.
Shoving beers in his pocket and his jacket.
Yeah.
And, you know, I really do think that's what we're getting and what we're going to get with Trump.
You know, he's doing the populist sort of things, right?
Engaging in a lot of jingoistic rhetoric.
Because it's really the only way to make palatable what is the reality of his, essentially his allegiance and his service to not just...
The Zionist Jews in the world, but also, in my opinion, the desires of global capital.
I mean, I've watched several videos of people.
I don't believe that everything is going to crash the way there's multiple people talking about, oh, at the end of February, the end of March, that doom and gloom, and there's going to be a reset, and so on and so on.
And I don't know how much of that is true.
But a lot of these policies and such things that he's engaging in...
Are, in my opinion, not for even the short-term or medium-term benefit of the American citizen or the American consumer.
So that's point one, and I'll let you take other callers.
I've got a couple more things to say.
Well, Paul, you can add a couple other points.
We're going to get there.
All right, so here's a quick one.
All right, so this whole thing with Elon Musk and, you know, DOGE, right?
It's rich, right?
Because Elon Musk has been the beneficiary of a lot of government money.
And he's a fraud like so many other people, right?
I mean, you look at his history, you look at what people have said.
There's nearly a 30-page paper written about him by Miles Mathis years ago that just hits way too many nails on the head.
And this will tie into your Monday show.
Which I listened to with, I believe, Mr. Shattuck, if I'm not mistaken.
I listened to it after the fact.
Well, you know, he mentioned something about this rocket technology that allows rockets to land in reverse.
Now, of course, that's completely and totally fake.
Everybody debunked that that had any brains at all.
Just similar.
Like, here's another stuff that Elon Musk pulled, if you remember, supposedly launching the Tesla Roadster into space, right?
And you remember what he said about it?
He said, it's so fake, that's how you know it's real?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The guy that we're, you know, trusting, it reminds me of the movie Idiocracy.
Remember where Rondo just bought the government because it has the electrolytes that plants crave?
I think that's a lot more.
Okay, listen.
Go ahead.
Okay, you got one more.
Go ahead.
Throw it in, Paul.
Go ahead.
I heard you on the show earlier today go, you can't normalize ethnic cleansing.
You just can't do it.
It's a business.
Paul, it's a good business opportunity.
All right, go ahead.
Business opportunity.
I want to get some more...
Brian, I want you to give us your thoughts and we'll come back to the panel.
Go ahead, Brian.
Well, you know, when you're talking about all this stuff, I've got my little girlfriend in Charleston, South Carolina, and she has her neighbors who are young like her, and she went to one of their parties, and they're all Ukrainians, okay?
Really?
Yeah, and she sent me a TikTok video of this young, beautiful, blonde-haired, blue-eyed Ukrainian girl sobbing and crying because she said she got a letter from the United States government that she was being deported, that she had to leave the country.
And she had all of her ties here now, and she had to leave her dogs and everything else.
And those are the kind of things that...
We're not going to get to our mainstream media.
She was vetted.
She was here legally.
So why are they deporting these poor...
Well, if she's there legally, she's got a case against deportation.
She needs a lawyer.
I know.
But what I'm saying is, what's going on?
It's your deep state at work, okay?
You know, that's just typical of them.
And when you're talking about MK Ultra Mind Control, I think I've got a case right under your nose that you guys aren't seeing.
Okay, for years, all I would have to do to get on your show, Jim, is put in Jim Fetzer on my search engine because I don't bookmark anything.
I'm computer illiterate.
And then, boom, you would come up.
Okay, well, then what started happening, I would do that, and I'd get these old, stupid programs.
They're not stupid.
I mean, they're two years old.
I go, what the hell?
I don't want this.
And I had trouble getting to your program.
So finally what I did was I punched in BitChute.
And then I went to the search engine on BitChute, and that worked for a while.
And then old BitChute came up, and I was back to the same thing.
So I finally figured out there's new BitChute.
So when I get to your program every day, I have to go to BitChute, punch in new BitChute, and then Jim Sester, and you come up.
And all that I get now before I see you is Victor Hugo.
Okay, there's all kinds of shows of Victor Hugo.
Like sometimes I can't even find you.
You're on the second row because everything is Victor Hugo.
And so he does have some good shows.
And, you know, I liked him way back when.
So I punched on one for Tuesday.
And, you know, it was fairly good.
And then suddenly he gets to you, and then he's starting to talk about how you were part of the Sandy Hook.
You're a limited hangout.
You're just like Alex Jones, all this bullshit.
And then he's slamming Russ.
He's slamming everybody.
And I said, you know, it's like he's MKUltra.
You know, it's like someone got to him and did an MKUltra thing.
And then the fact I... So, you know, that's what I wanted to tell you.
Yeah, I think he's running off.
I mean, that trouble you have because you've got all those shows, that's purposeful.
And it appears he gets his own commentators.
Russ has pursued this.
He gets his own commentators, sock puppets.
He's put up a lot of comments himself under fake names.
He's a disgrace.
He's a disgrace.
He really ran a sock puppet program when he had Carl on.
And that was really a shame that Carl went on there, I gotta tell you, because he was just lying in wait, like a snake under a rock, and just totally ambushed Carl, and then ran the sock puppet.
So he had, I would say organically, Victor probably gets six or seven hundred.
Let me finish this.
Let me finish this.
We can't hear anyone when everyone's talking, one at a time.
I don't know who that is.
It's not me.
Russ, finish your thought.
Okay, I think organically, Victor gets about 600 or 700, maybe 800 views organically.
And so on the show that he did with poor Carl, he got about 1,000 views eventually.
Not that big.
And probably most of it is real.
But then what happened is that after that show, he tries to get a groundswell going using his sock puppets.
He had 131 comments.
They were making glowing comments about Victor.
Oh, Victor, you're great.
Victor that.
It's just syrupy shit.
And I've got to tell you, I have people who have been following me for years.
And they never come on and give me that kind of accolade.
That's how the real world works.
Listen, we got four here now, callers.
I think 406 is next.
If that's not Frank, 406, you're up.
Go ahead, 407. Go ahead.
Yeah, Jim, I just want to remind you.
Oh, it's Keith.
Keith, Keith.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
I just want to remind you that the cartels there with all their equipment, there's an article there in the Al Jazeera about how the CIA controls the cartels.
In fact, the allegations themselves come from the cartels themselves.
If you remember that Zelensky was selling his arms to the cartels, they were showing up over in Mexico.
Yeah.
We also had the Panola drug cartel over there as fighters in Ukraine.
Really?
We had cartel members fighting Russians in Ukraine?
Yeah.
They were all arm bent.
Unbelievable!
Go ahead, Keith.
Go ahead, Keith.
Finish your thought, Keith.
All right.
Yeah.
Well, remember, on Courthouse News years ago, there was a thing.
They first labeled it as Russian snipers, but they changed it.
And what it was is hundreds of U.S. Army had been shot and or killed or wounded like that.
And what it was is in the courthouse, it was over 300-some-month pages of transcripts where they said that U.S. corporations over in Afghanistan were using the Taliban as what we called as go-to keep their businesses it was over 300-some-month pages of transcripts where they said that
And you could tell what it was because in 2001, when the U.S. went into Afghanistan, it was when New York Times ran the article that the Taliban had eradicated two-thirds of the world's opium and they were wondering where it's going to come from.
When the U.S. went into the opium production, it went up to 800%.
And then, of course, Afghanistan...
Add that to that recent email I sent out about the Sackler family where their opiate crisis killed over a million Americans.
Yeah.
And then if you go back to, what was it called?
The Nugent Hand Bank.
This goes back to the enterprises all over North.
They set up their own bank in Australia and stuff to do all the drug money and stuff.
None of these drugs and all this stuff, and same in Syria, by the way.
In Syria, they found one of those flatbed trailer type things.
It had a false floor on it, and it had, I think it's called Captagon or something like that.
But this is what all these ISIS fighters were taking to allow them to get all kicked out and defarced and stuff.
But those drugs came from France.
See, the drug trade essentially.
Because what it does is it facilitates local courts and stuff.
You know, the patrol cars that are needed, the new deputies, the court systems, the fines, the fees, the privatized prisons.
See, a certain amount of these drugs are always allowed to go in like that.
And then you have to look at the complacency of the ATF arm and the drug cartels who fast and furious, the DHS who cut deals with the Sonoma drug cartel, which allowed products in if they would take out their rivals.
Keith, Keith, hold that thought.
We've got another caller I want to bring in.
I'm going to get back to all of you.
913, join the conversation, 913. Yeah, can you hear me?
Yep.
We can.
Go ahead.
This is Zach Gentile from Missouri.
Yeah, this is Zach Gentile from Missouri.
Interesting topic.
You know, the only thing that I would like to say...
I don't appreciate Mike, the daykeeper, you know, blocking my phone calls so I can't call an RBN. He did that to Rev also.
But what I wanted to point out is I find it very disturbing how here I am listening to this show midday, and you're very critical of Donald Trump and all of the Jewish cabal surrounding them and all them goons.
And then when it comes around 2 to 3 o'clock or 2 to 4 o'clock, it's like a huge blowjob fest for Trump.
It's just crazy.
It's just real crazy.
Well, just to set you straight, I'm perfectly Gentile.
Why is the gatekeeper blocking my phone from calling in?
Thanks, Gentile.
We sure appreciate it.
Paul, let's go back to Paul.
Paul, give us your further thoughts.
Okay.
Yeah, that was interesting.
I did have another thought, too.
Multiple thoughts about this whole thing with RFK. I know that a lot of people are quite fond of this appointment, and I know you've expressed your thoughts that way, too.
But I'm very dubious to this guy.
I mean, I don't know if you watched.
I watched that video that is...
This guy being Musk?
Musk being this guy?
No, no, RFK Jr. RFK? I watched that video that...
Yeah, I want that video that his sister made.
And, you know, again, I don't know these people.
We are just audience members.
You know, we're not part of the family.
But I really don't think somebody, a family member, makes a video like that without there being some substance to it.
And the problem that I have with him, first of all, you may remember, maybe everybody on the panel will remember that awkward silence, that lengthy silence when he was asked that question about...
Israelis or Zionists or Jews, if you recall, right?
That look on his face that he knows.
And also, too, what, in my opinion, I thought was cowardice in that committee, you know, going along with this notion that, well, he supports the CDC schedule.
He recommends that parents follow the CDC schedule for vaccinations.
It's like you're asking yourself, why on earth would he say that?
Okay, similar to making, you know, the caveat, oh, all my children are vaccinated too.
Meanwhile, on his site, you know, I could pull it up right now.
I was just looking at it the other day.
I could send you the link.
On his site, Children's Health Defense, is a study that shows the differences or the discrepancies between vaccinated and unvaccinated children.
There's been a few studies have done showing clearly that unvaccinated children...
We agree.
We agree.
He knows.
We'll see.
Let's judge him by his actions.
I agree that was a stupid statement to make.
I've already judged him.
I get it, Paul.
I get it.
Joaquin, would you care to respond to Paul?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't like his position on Israel either.
He's also controlled, and they killed his father and brother and uncle.
You know, he's made concessions to get where he is as the Health and Human Services Director.
You know, it seems like they all have to do that to a little bit of an extent.
I do believe, though, that he will be going after Big Pharma and that he will, once he's in position, and I think he's about to, go after...
The whole vaccine thing, because the man has talked years and years of the damage that vaccines have caused.
So, I don't think he's going to just let go of that and not pursue it.
Of course not.
But, yes, he made concessions.
That's what you have to do to get in there.
Yeah.
That's what everybody says, but that's not right.
Paul, thank you.
Keith, would you like to add some comments?
Yeah, I just wanted to add one more thing.
I've got to pop out of here, though, Jim.
Go ahead.
But anyway, I want to say this.
You have to realize that whether it's a drug cartel, CIA or USA, whatever like that, or Big Pharma, these guys are in it for the money.
Hundreds of billions of dollars.
If you listen to that one video I could send you of the Pfizer blackmail of what they made these countries do to sign off on these alleged vaccines, Which they had to sign over their military, their embassy, and their banks.
Yeah, yeah.
Abroad, yeah.
It was insane.
The blackmail.
Medical blackmail, yes.
Yeah, so there's so much money in drugs.
It's not just the cartels.
It's the ones that you see these guys coming out of your doctor's office with their little cakes and stuff where they're offering their...
The amount of money and drugs and stuff, which are toxic by nature, and they're making massive amounts of money on it.
Yes, yes, yes.
Listen, while acknowledging that assertion about the schedule of vaccines, which I was stunned by his saying, I don't think he's going to be supporting vaccines in the position.
We'll wait and see, Paul.
But I think you're going to find you're happy with what he does in the office.
Brian, I want to come back to you, my friend.
Go ahead.
Your further thoughts.
When you talked about BlackRock, it brought something up that kind of disturbs me right now in Ukraine.
There's a city named Prokosk or whatever the name of it is.
About five clicks to the west of there is a black rock lithium mine.
It's like the biggest one in Europe.
And the Russians were just getting ready to overtake this Prochovsky city.
And all of a sudden...
The Ukrainians managed to launch an offensive and push the Russians out of that area.
And my thoughts were, gee, I wonder if those Russian generals are Freemasons.
Because it just looks so suspicious to have that the only area where the Ukrainians can somehow seem to muster the forces to get them away from there.
So Larry Fink can continue to work that lithium mine next to that city.
There's a lithium mine right there.
Joaquin, your thoughts?
Well, I hadn't heard about that, but based on what you're saying, it does sound a little bit questionable.
I want to know more information here.
Just like we have the disaster.
They talk about it.
Just like we have the manufactured disaster with Hurricane Helene in North Carolina where there just happens to be a vast lithium deposit.
Ryan, you're right on.
This lithium thing has just gone bananas.
Paul, if you want to come back and add some further thoughts, you're welcome.
Yes, I would.
And the way of a response or pushback on the whole RFK Jr. thing.
Sure.
You guys are not alone in saying, well, this is what you have to do or have to say just to give into positions of power, right?
I don't buy that at all, okay?
A man his age with his wealth and his background, his knowledge, his supposed intelligence, he could have said something very generic, like, I intend to follow the science wherever it leads, and, you know, so on and so forth.
He could have done that very diplomatically.
Instead, he said...
I recommend.
Paul, Paul, I agree with you.
We are not disagreeing with you.
He does not agree with me.
So, my opinion, I'll state it right now.
I've said it on my own show.
Fuck RFK Jr. Thanks, Paul.
And don't drop F-bombs on your own show, okay?
Not here.
Please.
Joaquin, your thoughts.
I think he's going to be very good, and he's certainly not going to be pro-vaccine.
And I agree, made a statement that he ought not to have made.
Right, and I agree also.
He shouldn't have done that, but he felt he had to.
He's probably going to get in by one or two votes.
If he'd argued back, maybe he wouldn't have gotten that one or two votes to get in.
I don't agree with him doing it, but, you know, like I said, if he opposed it, who knows?
He may not have gotten in.
It comes down to that.
The true essence is what he does once he's in.
Yep, exactly.
Brian, you got the chance to make a final comment.
Brian.
I know Tulsi, people like her too, but she's on the Council on Foreign Relations.
There's all kinds of people on the Council on Foreign Relations.
All kinds are on the world.
It doesn't mean a goddamn thing.
You've got to get that straight.
I hate this smear.
I hate this smear by association, Brian.
I hate that smear by association.
It's beneath you, Brian.
Joaquin, thank you so much.
You were excellent, Russ.
Too bad we had a little break here with Russ.
Meanwhile, everyone, Trump's given us a little more time.
Spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, the people you love and care about.
It's the right thing to do.
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