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The Raw Deal (5 February 2025) "Fearsome Threesome" Edition w Russ Winter and Joachim Hagopian

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Grinning like the cat that ate the canary, Haig fugitive Benjamin Netanyahu sat beside Donald Trump as the U.S. president unequivocally told the press on Tuesday that the plan for Gaza is to permanently remove all Palestinians from the enclave.
	I don't think people should be going back to Gaza, Trump said.
	I think that Gaza has been very unlucky for them.
	They've lived like hell.
	Asked for clarification on whether the Palestinians would have a right to return to Gaza after its reconstruction, Trump said the plan is to build them housing in other countries that's so nice they won't want to return.
	"I think it would be my hope that we could do something really nice, really good, where they wouldn't want to return," Trump said, adding, "I hope that we could do something where they wouldn't want to go back." "I think it would be my hope that we could do
	something really nice."
	"I think it would be my hope that we could do something really nice."
	"I think it would be my pleasure to be here." "Thank you very much." That's a lot of press.
	Congratulations.
	You bring them out.
	You really bring them out.
	Today I'm delighted to welcome Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu back to the White House.
	It's a wonderful feeling and a wonderful event.
	We had fantastic talks.
	And thank you very much with your staff.
	He's the first foreign head of state to visit during our administration.
	And, Bibi, I want to say it's an honor to have you with us.
	Over the past four years, the U.S. and the Israeli alliance has been tested more than any time in history.
	But the bonds of friendship and affection between the American and Israeli people have endured for generations, and they are absolutely unbreakable.
	They are unbreakable.
	I'm confident that under our leadership, the cherished alliance between our two countries will soon be stronger than ever.
	Great relationship.
	We had great victories together four years ago.
	Not so many victories over the past four years, however.
	In my first term, Prime Minister and I forged a tremendously successful partnership that brought peace and stability to the Middle East like it hadn't seen in decades.
	Together, we defeated ISIS. We ended the disastrous Iran nuclear deal, one of the worst deals ever made, by the way.
	And imposed the toughest ever sanctions on the Iranian regime.
	We starved Hamas and Iran's other terrorist proxies, and we starved them like they had never seen before.
	Resources and support disappeared for them.
	I recognized Israel's capital, opened the American embassy in Jerusalem, and got it built, by the way.
	Built it, too.
	Just not only designated it, but got it built.
	At a price that nobody's seen for 40 years.
	We got it built.
	It's beautiful.
	All Jerusalem stone, right from nearby, and it's something that's very special.
	And recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, something that they talked about for 70 years, and they weren't able to get it, and I got it.
	And with the historic Abraham Accord, something that was really an achievement that was, I think, Become more and more important because we achieved the most significant Middle East peace agreements in half a century, but the Abraham Accords in particular, and I really believe that many countries will soon be joining this amazing peace and economic development transaction.
	It really is a big economic development transaction.
	I think we're going to have a lot of people signing up very quickly.
	Unfortunately, for four years, nobody signed up.
	Nobody did anything for four years except in the negative.
	Unfortunately, the weakness and incompetence of those years, those past four years, the grave damage around the globe that was done, including in the Middle East, grave damage all over the globe.
	The horrors of October 7th would never have happened if I were president.
	The Ukraine and Russia disaster would never have happened if I were president over the past 16 months.
	Israel has endured a sustained, aggressive, and murderous assault on every front, but they fought back bravely.
	You see that and you know that.
	What we have witnessed is an all-out attack on the very existence of a Jewish state in the Jewish homeland.
	The Israelis have stood strong and united in the face of an enemy that has kidnapped, tortured, raped, and slaughtered innocent men, women, children, and even little babies.
	I want to salute the Israeli people for meeting this trial with courage and determination and unflinching resolve.
	They have been strong.
	In our meetings today, the Prime Minister and I focused on the future, discussing how we can work together to ensure Hamas is eliminated and ultimately restore peace to a very troubled region.
	It's been troubled, but what's happened in the last four years has not been good.
	I want to thank Prime Minister Netanyahu for working closely with my transition team.
	Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, who's here somewhere.
	Steve?
	Stand up, Steve, please.
	What a job you've done.
	What a good job you've done.
	Proud of you.
	You've done a fantastic job.
	National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.
	Thank you, Mike, for working so well with us.
	Thank you.
	We have, in addition, Marco Rubio, who is on the phone right now, listening to every single word that we say.
	And he's going to be great.
	And Pete, congratulations.
	And Scott, congratulations.
	I see you're here.
	And Caroline's been doing a great job.
	She's really probably talked about more than anybody here.
	She's done a fantastic job.
	And thank you very much, Caroline.
	We're proud of you.
	But we'll only be satisfied when...
	All of these problems are solved, and we have the team to solve them, and that's going to happen.
	It's going to happen, I think, very quickly.
	I also strongly believe that the Gaza Strip, which has been a symbol of death and destruction for so many decades, and so bad for the people anywhere near it, and especially those who live there.
	Frankly, it's been really very unlucky.
	It's been very unlucky.
	It's been an unlucky place for a long time.
	I know.
	I know.
	I got to get rid of it.
	I mucked up again.
	Sorry to say it.
	This part's actually pretty good because he just talks about how they can't go back.
	Well, that's kind of a given.
	...lived a miserable existence there.
	Instead, we should go to other countries of interest with humanitarian hearts, and there are many of them that want to do this.
	And build various domains that will ultimately be occupied by the 1.8 million...
	Turn the volume down, Jim.
	Turn that volume down?
	Okay, I'll get rid of it.
	I've got to get back to the actual clip.
	Countries of great wealth.
	It could be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12. It could be numerous sites or it could be one large site.
	But the people will be able to live in comfort and peace.
	And we'll make sure something really spectacular is done.
	They're going to have peace.
	They're not going to be shot at and killed and destroyed like this civilization of people has had to endure.
	I'm sorry about this.
	The Palestinians want to go back to Gaza is they have no alternative.
	It's right now a demolition site.
	This is just a demolition site.
	Virtually every building is down.
	They're living under fallen concrete that's very dangerous and very precarious.
	They instead can occupy all of a beautiful area with homes and safety and they can live out their lives in peace and harmony instead of having to go back and do it again.
	The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do it.
	Here it comes.
	We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of it.
	We'll own it.
	We're going to own the Gaza Strip.
	Along with Greenland, Panama.
	Destroyed buildings.
	Do I miss anybody?
	Economic development that will supply...
	Mexico and Canada, too.
	Canada.
	The people of the area do a real job, do something different.
	Yeah.
	Standing next to this butcher, you know, this genocide BB. I'm just in shock.
	I'm not, I hate to say.
	You're not surprised.
	No, I always knew he was owned by Israel.
	He'll die being owned by Israel.
	Yes.
	He's kissing ass like we've never seen before.
	Yes.
	It makes me really want to vomit, actually.
	I feel the same way.
	I mean, I'm just...
	Knotts in my stomach, but this is the United States.
	This is the guy in charge who said he was going to bring peace, and now he's going to throw the Palestinians out of Palestine?
	Yeah, they're going to get them out of West Bank, too.
	You watch.
	That's in the plan, not just Gaza.
	Already unleashed the settlers.
	The Iranian regime.
	And we will once again enforce the most aggressive possible sanctions.
	Make him go away, Jim!
	I can't take it anymore!
	I know.
	I've got to do it.
	I've got to do it.
	We had no threats on our left office.
	Russ, you told me before how to do it.
	I think you just got to find the clip and just turn the volume down and let it run out.
	Yeah, or turn it off, I know, but it slipped to the side.
	Nobody was being funded.
	There would never have been an October 7th.
	Two weeks ago, I once again...
	Designated the Houthis as a terrorist organization.
	They're trying to destroy...
	So he's going full retard Zionist.
	Yeah.
	But every front, every issue.
	So the question with Trump is always going to be, what's the response?
	What's the pushback?
	And he does get away with bullying a lot.
	Reasonable issues.
	For instance, fentanyl coming over the border from Canada.
	Apparently asked them politely.
	And then they had to put on a tariff threat to get them to come through on a reasonable request.
	Okay, so that kind of worked.
	But the request was reasonable.
	Here they're asking Jordan, Egypt, God knows how many people to take millions of refugees and provide shelter for them.
	Who's going to pay for 2 million people moving out of Gaza?
	Well, it's so insulting and it's so ignorant of the law, international law.
	I mean, we have the International Court of Justice Barrister on behalf of South Africa document Israel doesn't have a legal foundation to exist as a sovereign state.
	And here is Trump.
	Talking all about the poor victim Israelis and not a word about the slaughter of the Palestinians.
	This is a disgrace.
	Joaquin, have you ever heard anything so appalling?
	It is so morally repugnant and wrong.
	I mean...
	The Semites are the Palestinians.
	The Biblical Hebrew Semites from the Bible are the Palestinians.
	And like almost 100% of the Israeli citizens in the government are not Semites.
	They have no birthright.
	I mean, we keep trying to emphasize this point that the Jewish state was founded upon a lie, and probably the biggest lie in all of history.
	The Holocaust lie, yes.
	The greatest.
	Yeah, and that they have a birthright from the ancient times, which they don't.
	You know, so over and over we're seeing this kissing ass and they are a terrorist state.
	Israel has always been a terrorist state and the United States is also a terrorist state.
	The U.S. and Israel are the two government pariahs of the entire world.
	And I don't see how the Muslim world can go along with this.
	This absolutely cannot happen.
	They are being left with no other recourse.
	But to make war on Israel and apparently the United States.
	I don't see any other way out, really.
	Because the world, the UN, the international court, none of them have the power to control Israel and the United States.
	So I don't see a solution here that's amicable.
	To anybody, other than, maybe for moral purposes, attacking Israel.
	I don't see any other way out.
	Iran has the entitlement to retaliate against Israel.
	At this point, it might be appropriate to do a full-scale assault to take out every military installation in Israel now.
	Russ, your thoughts?
	Well, everything's a grift with Trump.
	This is actually, in large measure, a grift because you're going in and basically stealing the property and the lands.
	I mean, they've been wrecked, but there's still land value.
	The people that own it have probably title to the land there in Gaza.
	What are you going to do?
	You're just going to push them into Egypt, out in the desert, and not give them reparations?
	Unless there's a huge reparation coming to allow these people to have something to resettle.
	You know, he's talking about turning Gaza into, like, luxury kind of land.
	Yeah, he's a total grifter.
	Everything that comes out of his mouth is grifting.
	He's got this sovereign wealth fund run by his Jewish Secretary of Commerce.
	He's a big Bitcoin guy.
	That's just going to be grifting.
	The way they're running the markets right now, just rumors of tariff, taking the tariffs back, putting the tariffs back.
	That's insider trading, I'm telling you, for his buddies.
	As a real estate mogul, what has he forgotten?
	The very first principle.
	Location, location, location.
	He wants to put the Palestinians all over the world in luxury, and they won't even want to return.
	That is so absurd.
	I'm just embarrassed that this guy is out there.
	He's president of the United States, and I voted for him three times.
	And he sounds just like his son-in-law.
	Remember how his son-in-law was saying, oh, Gaza, that's a very precious strip for investors.
	You know, he's just the same.
	You know, these are Khabad Lubavitch terrorists.
	That's what they are.
	It's totally Jew-grifting, inside and out, whether it's Ukraine, whether it's here, whether it's, I mean, the whole...
	Trump administration is just Jewish grifting, a bunch of Jew grifters.
	And here is the notorious Chabad terrorist the world has ever known, right here in the White House.
	Just unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	We have no hope.
	And he just talked about the Marine barracks were...
	What, 250 Marines?
	That was an Israeli op, crying out loud.
	Yeah.
	October 7th was an Israeli op, so it's just lie after lie.
	That's right.
	And did you hear Trump go on and talk about the absurdities and then you repeat them?
	Beheadings and burning babies alive.
	Everything that's already been proven to be false.
	Yeah, he's full retard on the narrative.
	Full retard.
	All in.
	Very, very bad sign.
	So there's going to be pushback.
	The question is, what's the pushback going to be to the United States, unfortunately?
	Because collectively, the United States is going to get the pushback.
	Oh, he's taking us straight into Armageddon.
	That's where it's going, folks.
	I mean, it's been on the table, plotted over a century and a half ago, and that's where we're going, it looks like.
	Think outside the box with fresh ideas.
	Now, in terms of Ukraine, he's still talking tough about forcing Russia to the peace table.
	Russia's not going to bite.
	This is so insulting.
	This is such a shallow approach to deploy.
	But then he also, on the Russian thing, he makes grifting statements there.
	He says, well, we want Ukraine's...
	I mean, he's almost like sticking the Ukraine up for collateral.
	Now he wants Ukraine to pay for all our support by sharing precious minerals they have.
	He's speaking for BlackRock.
	Yeah.
	The point is that all the rare metals in the Ukraine is in Donbass, where the Russians control.
	He hasn't even passed elementary community college geography.
	I mean, he's not an expert on any of this stuff.
	He doesn't even know where the rare earths are located.
	Well, so that's basically telling Russia, we're going to take your rare earths in eastern Ukraine.
	We're going to fight you for that.
	That's a very interesting opening round, but that's how he does it.
	That's the art of the deal, I guess.
	I think Netanyahu and the war clearly realized they can't defeat Hamas.
	They cannot defeat Hamas.
	Hamas had basically defeated them in Gaza, just as Hezbollah in Lebanon.
	So they've tried to figure out an ingenious alternative solution with their puppet Donald Trump.
	Yeah, it's a war of attrition that Hamas is winning.
	And there's younger generations that are dedicated freedom fighters for their right to exist.
	It's not going to go away just trying to displace these people to other countries in the Middle East.
	They're not going to take them.
	All the countries that have been approached, Jordan even, which is totally in the...
	You know, no other countries have accepted any of the Palestinians on the moral grounds that they own that land and that's where they belong.
	So, you know, it's not going to stand up.
	And I have to say that the Islamic world needs to come together and push back and if necessary...
	Go to war against Israel and the U.S. Now, I think the next journalist actually has a question worth hearing.
	Basically, she's saying, do you have any idea what you're talking about?
	Listen up.
	She raises her point.
	And then it starts, and then the killing starts, and all of the other problems start.
	Trump is so brainwashed.
	And we don't want to see that happen.
	So by the United States, with its stability and strength, Owning it, especially the strength that we're developing and developed over the last fairly short period of time, I would say really since the election.
	I think we'll be a keeper of something.
	All of a month and a half.
	Completely around.
	For the entire Middle East, very important.
	And we'll, again, have thousands of jobs, and there'll be jobs for everyone, not for a specific...
	Except Palestinians!
	Yeah, except the Palestinians who will be God knows where.
	I think peace between Israel and Saudi Arabia is not only feasible.
	I think it's going to happen.
	I think if we had another half a year in your first term, it would have already happened.
	Many, many more.
	I agree.
	Many more nations.
	I think you can't prejudge and pre-guess how we'll achieve it, but I'm committed to achieving it.
	I know the president is Committed to achieving it.
	And I think the Saudi leadership is interested.
	Committed like you always do.
	Compromise and bribes.
	Please go ahead.
	Here it is.
	Wow.
	There we go.
	It's finally off.
	Yeah, I hope Saudi Arabia does not go along.
	They've been called the Jews.
	It is great.
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	Welcome back to the Raw Deal on Revolution Radio Studio B this 5th day of February for an edition of the fearsome threesome.
	I'm joined by Russ Winter and Joaquina Gobims.
	Apologies for the silence at the beginning.
	I had a cough and muted and didn't unmute when the show began.
	We've been listening to Donald Trump offering...
	Perhaps the most obscene plan ever proposed in foreign affairs for the United States to take control of Gaza, to expel all of the Palestinians, relocate them elsewhere in homes that Trump says are going to be so nice they won't want to return.
	They're going to have no right to return, even though there's a Palestinian land.
	And he's gone on and on.
	About the poor victims, the Jews in Palestine, in Israel, who have suffered during the false flag stage at heck of October 7th, and Donald Trump seem to have bought into all of it.
	it.
	It's just insulting and embarrassing, the false information coming from the president of the United States in support of the greatest terrorist, genocidalist, maniac ever seen on the face of Earth.
	Joaquin, your thoughts?
	We're living in an inverse world where apparently Satan continues to rule, and it comes through the mouth of Donald Trump and his policies and lies.
	This is unforgivable.
	Like I keep saying, the...
	Islamic world has to step up with the rest of the world.
	The problem is, is that Israel and the U.S., they own too many Western, basically lapdog countries that don't have a spine.
	They have to step up and join the Islamic world against Israel and the United States.
	It has to be the whole world versus these two pariah nations.
	And maybe, maybe something can be done on behalf of the Palestinians to give them their homeland and kick the Jews out of Israel!
	Get them out!
	Get them out!
	They're the terrorists!
	And have no justification for their presence there whatsoever, Russ.
	Never did.
	Well, unfortunately, the real politic is pretty dire.
	Because where do the people in Gaza go?
	It's kind of a fiat accompli.
	You know, you do the genocide, and now you're doing the ethnic cleansing.
	And it's clearly a conspiracy against these people to ethically cleanse them and genocide them out of the area.
	And it looks like it's going to be a success, because they don't really have any place to go.
	They probably are going to have to go into Egypt or Jordan or someplace.
	And I think that they'll bribe and pay off these and pressure Jordan and Egypt, who both get aid.
	I mean, it's interesting.
	When he cut the foreign aid, he kept it flowing to Jordan and Egypt.
	You wonder why that was?
	Yeah, because that's the hook he's got on him.
	So they're going to start allowing these people to leave.
	They're going to open the gates.
	They're going to start allowing them to pour out.
	And then we'll see just how cheap these Jews really are, because they'll probably have them living in tents rather than these wonderful, beautiful communities, as Trump calls it.
	I love this from the truth seeker.
	Gaza is a Palestinian homeland, not Trump's luxury resort.
	People are moving.
	North to get back to their homes and see what happened and turn around.
	Yeah, it's not good.
	It's not good.
	They're pretty tenacious people, but they can turn the water off at any time.
	I don't even know the logistics of getting water and shelter.
	They've got bulldozers in there kind of clearing off the lands.
	I actually wrote kind of an article on it.
	So, yeah, they're clearing off some lands where they can pitch some tents and stuff.
	That's not a long-term solution.
	So they're going to have to go.
	I mean, they've set them up so they have to leave to survive.
	So they still have them in dire mode, dire condition.
	And they may just start raining bombs on them again.
	That's how nasty these people are.
	And just like Biden did.
	Trump just approved another 1,700,000-pound bombs to go to Israel.
	I mean, it's disgusting!
	Disgusting!
	Meanwhile, the truth-seeker writes, Steve Witkoff, billionaire real estate developer and U.S. President of the Middle East Envoy, spoke these words to Axios as if it were describing an unfortunate inconvenience.
	But look closer and you'll see the blueprint.
	This is the outcome Trump wants.
	And Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has already set it in motion.
	Gaza was never meant to be rebuilt.
	It was meant to be emptied, flattened, erased.
	And who better to oversee this clearing out than real estate tycoons?
	Well, Trump and Whitcoff?
	To Trump and Whitcoff, Gaza is not a people's homeland.
	It's a development opportunity.
	A prime stretch of Mediterranean coastland waiting to be repurposed once its inhabitants have been removed.
	Trump has made no secret of how he views Gaza's prime real estate, marveling at its phenomenal location on the sea and its best weather, as though he were surveying land for a luxury resort.
	He does not see Gaza as part of Palestine.
	He does not see it as a homeland belonging to its people.
	He sees it as an untapped opportunity for the wealthy, a playground for investors, a future resort for tourists and foreigners.
	A grifting opportunity.
	It's a grifting opportunity.
	Grift, grift, grift.
	The Palestinians have Gaza, but Gaza is not real estate for sale.
	It's not a development project.
	It is not a resort for outsiders.
	Gaza is part of Palestine.
	Russ, go ahead, more.
	It's just a total grifting operation, and they're not going to really be able to develop that.
	I mean, even Trump himself made it to be 10 to 20 years from now, so it's not about Gaza.
	And then he says the U.S. is going to occupy it.
	So how's this going to happen?
	They'll probably open up some Rafa crossing.
	People that want to leave will start streaming out.
	They'll let them leave.
	So a bunch of Palestinians will run for their lives because they want to get the hell out of there because they're under mortal threat.
	And then you'll probably have some Hamas guys stand behind.
	And then the U.S. comes in there supposedly.
	Get ownership of this place.
	And then they're going to get in the line of fire.
	So rather than having Israelis doing this stuff, you're going to have American boys taking the lead.
	And it'll just be an open fire zone because the civilians will start clearing out and the hardliners will stay behind and put up last stands.
	And last stands, I mean, study Berlin, study Warsaw, study Budapest, study any, you know, Stalingrad, study any last...
	Stand in an urban location, and they are very costly to both sides.
	And guess who's going to take the hit?
	Americans.
	Nobody's thought that through.
	Remember the dock that they built under Lloyd Austin's authority that never worked?
	Because, again, the Palestinians were there, and they were taking pot shots at Americans.
	And then they hightailed it out of there because it wouldn't work.
	They were going to bring in relief.
	quote, relief aid to the Palestinians.
	You know, Trump actually goes on to say, yeah, we're going to make Palestine, you know, the Riviera of the Middle East.
	That's how he's selling it.
	He's a pitch man.
	That's all he is.
	You know, a grifting pitch man for the evil, evil ones that are in control of this world.
	That's all that he is, and that's all that's going on.
	It's inverse world.
	Right is wrong.
	Wrong is right.
	You know, everything, everything, in every moral sensibility that any human has, they have to be repulsed by this.
	Spectacle of evil in front of us.
	You know, Gaza's too cold in the winter, number one.
	Now, next week, I'm going to Egypt.
	I'm going to the resort area of Egypt, and it is going to be 75 degrees.
	I'm going to be dipping in pools, five-star hotel, $1,250, all-inclusive, all my food, my plane fares, for 14 nights.
	How's...
	How is Trump going to compete with that in Gaza?
	Gaza is like 50, 55 degrees in the wintertime.
	75 down on the Red Sea in Egypt.
	They already have great resorts there.
	It's just nobody knows about them.
	Well, you know, just to reinforce Joaquin's point about the Orwellian dimension, he campaigned as a peacemaker.
	He was going to settle more in the Middle East.
	He was going to settle more in Ukraine.
	And now it appears...
	He's, in fact, going to settle it by sending in American troops.
	I mean, it's just outrageous.
	Absolutely outrageous.
	Very dishonest.
	Just a grifter, and everything is grifting.
	You know, some money-making opportunity.
	The whole mentality of the guy.
	Everything he talks about, whether he's doing his shitcoin pump and dump with Melania coins and Trump.
	I mean, the first thing he does, he's got that scam going.
	And now he's got the Sovereign Wealth Fund going.
	That's going to be insider trading, you know, where the cronies of Trump and his oligarchs that he's got are going to get paid off and grifting.
	And, I mean, you should see that bunch.
	If we have it, play that little gathering of Ludnik and Trump in his office talking about this.
	I mean, we really should come back and talk about the U.S. economy.
	I got a story on the sovereign fund.
	Yes.
	Do you have a clip of this Ludnik guy?
	Take a look at him.
	Let me go down.
	Of course, we got Alan Dershowitz.
	Anti-Semitic protesters have no place in America.
	What a...
	Giant POS he turns out to.
	Then Musk comes out and says, yeah, we should take the offer of El Salvador to send our criminals down there and be held in their prison for profit.
	Including America.
	It's a big dog thing.
	You know, we could save lots of money if we send our prisoners down to El Salvador and hold them in their huge capacity prison down there.
	We can see where all of this is going.
	We can see where it's all going.
	They passed this anti-Semitism law.
	They're going to be rounding up Americans that speak the truth about the moral, reprehensible actions of this evil state called the government of U.S. and Israel.
	It's all set up.
	And my view is that it's heading towards...
	Armageddon, there's going to be huge loss of life on this earth under Trump.
	He's been basically given the assignment to rile up the entire world into war and depopulation.
	He's the man that's going to bring it to us.
	It's pretty evident.
	Okay.
	Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
	Well, yeah, he is the catalyst for conflict in this world.
	That's what Trump's role is.
	By the city of London, they give him the authority to be the rough guy that's going to go in there and be tough and make the deals, you know.
	And it's all to polarize the entire world against Israel and the U.S. and any Western countries that go along with this horror show.
	And it's going to head towards world war.
	I mean, they want depopulation.
	They want us cut down by 90%, 95%.
	And they're going to get it.
	And their man is Trump to go there and get it done.
	That's what his job is.
	Just like Biden and Obama started it, and he continued to finish off America.
	Well, the final blow is going to be Trump.
	Going in there, polarize the entire world into world war and massive decimation of loss of human life on the earth.
	That's what's coming.
	You know, I really haven't understood this sovereign wealth fund.
	Here's an article about it.
	With countries like Norway, Saudi Arabia, and Singapore having long-wielded massive financial influence to their sovereign wealth funds, the United States had watched from the sidelines.
	Until now.
	These funds, which often exceed hundreds of billions of dollars, have given smaller nations outside power in global markets and strategic investments.
	Let's be honest.
	It's been frustrating watching other countries build massive war chests while America's vast resources remain untapped.
	Even tiny nations have been flexing their financial muscle on the world stage, often working against American interests.
	That's what makes this week's development so significant.
	In an historic move that reshapes America's economic landscape, President Donald Trump Let me see if there is a clip here.
	I think I can explain to the audience what's going to happen.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Tell us.
	Okay.
	Obviously, countries like Norway had a tremendous amount of oil revenue coming in, at least at one point, that the government taxed and got a cut of, and that's what they created their sovereign fund out of.
	The United States doesn't really have that because it goes into taxes.
	The country's $37 trillion in debt.
	So what they're going to do is I think they're going to liquidate a lot of government offices.
	I actually put up an article.
	You really should follow me at Winterwatch.
	Everybody should follow me at Winterwatch.
	Because I put up kind of sideline issues that kind of relate to this stuff, that kind of crop up later.
	And it was a chart showing all the empty buildings in Washington, D.C. and surrounding area, Virginia, government offices.
	They're like 80% empty.
	Already.
	They're going to liquidate them.
	Yeah, they're going to liquidate them, but they're going to liquidate them really, really cheap to Trump's buddies, his cronies, his Jew cronies.
	You watch.
	Mark my word.
	BlackRock.
	There'll probably be some new funds, liquidation funds that come up.
	And the Sovereign Wealth Fund will get 20 cents on the dollar for it.
	And put it into their fund.
	And then you've got lands in the western United States that the federal government owns, and they're probably going to monetize some of that, maybe sell them to resource companies or whatever, which might not be too bad of an idea.
	But they'll sell it to them cheap.
	They'll sell it to them really cheap, you know, copper properties, whatever.
	So the government doesn't really get that much benefit out of it.
	Corporate sector does.
	That's how this is going to work, and that's how they're going to collect the funds.
	They're going to speculate a lot.
	They're going to do pump and dumps with Bitcoin and shit coins and things like that.
	That's what this Ludnik guy is an expert at, at Cantor Fitzgerald.
	This is all related to the sovereign fund?
	Well, they've got to raise the money for the sovereign fund, so they're talking about monetizing different things.
	What does the government own that can be monetized?
	Empty buildings, lands in the West.
	It fits perfectly with basically the 15-minute smart city.
	That's how they're going to confiscate a lot of land from homeowners in America.
	It's going to be a giant grifting fund is what it's going to be.
	Joaquin, I need more on that.
	Tell me about how that's going to work.
	Well, you know, they've had these zones in which they plan to take the population of America and put them in high-rise, basically a prison camp.
	And it's really going to embody the smart city plan.
	You know, smart meters, smart city, 15-minute...
	Basically neo-feudal enslavement, and they're each going to get some kind of universal income, and they're going to confiscate, you know, by the eminent domain, and they just grab the private properties of Americans, and they're going to use all those lands for all the minerals and wealth, natural resource wealth, that are in the American land.
	And I think they're going to do this pretty much all over the world, but America is going there.
	They've had this plan in place.
	You know, it's all part of the UN Agenda 2030 as well.
	So, yeah, and they're going to go for these smart cities and it's going to be piled up high rise type prison living amongst Americans.
	And of course, they also have these wars that are going to happen that are going to decimate the population, you know, somewhere near seven, nine.
	I don't think it's eight anymore.
	And it's going to be drastically reduced.
	They've been talking about, for a long time, the overpopulation problem going back to the 1700s.
	So, yeah, they're going to decimate our human population.
	And they're going to create these habitat neo-feudal enslavement zones.
	And of course, they're moving full speed with the transhumanist movement and the AI robotics.
	All that to replace humans.
	We're not needed anymore.
	So this is the big overall agenda.
	And we're seeing it up close and personal now with Trump showing his true grifter cards.
	You know, he's the showman.
	He's the snake oil salesman and orange face.
	And we're seeing it up close and personal now.
	I hope America gets it, you know?
	The first step of this fund is privatization because they've got to raise the money to go into the fund.
	And that's what I just described.
	Surplus properties, surplus buildings, lands.
	God knows what else.
	They probably have a whole inventory, and probably Musk is working on this stuff, too.
	Prisons?
	I mean, they've got some big prisons they can sell, privatize it, turn it over to corporate interests.
	Yeah.
	I'm flabbergasted by all of this.
	Is cutting down the size of government part of the project, too?
	I mean, Musk going after it?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah, it is.
	In some ways, it's good.
	In some ways, it's a lot of excess stuff in the government.
	I think that's what some people are clamoring on, but they don't realize that somebody's got to be a buyer, and that's where the grifting comes in.
	It's a little bit like Russia.
	The Soviet Union, when it collapsed, privatized everything, started liquidating everything, and it fell into the hands of about 20 Jewish oligarchs.
	Same thing here.
	That's what I predict.
	I agree totally.
	Yeah.
	And the situation is basically the smart cities is the plan, but they're going to end up involving a major war.
	You know, they've been going after Iran for a long time.
	Israel will not be happy until Iran is at war with U.S. and the West.
	So they have all these major plans.
	And, you know, you were talking about How they're doing this land development.
	Well, there's so many office spaces that are empty now in America.
	It's government offices, but it's also commercial real estate.
	It's just gone.
	You know, it's falling apart.
	In part because of COVID and distributed working from home, you know.
	That was part of this whole big plan.
	And, you know, so it never recovered.
	The commercial real estate market never recovered.
	And there's a lot of homeowners out there that, with the interest rates and all of that, they've lost their homes.
	And, of course, we have, you know, BlackRock and, you know, the rest of them, investment, you know.
	The top wealth class is just...
	Predatorily moving in for owning everything, just like the World Economic Forum asshole says, so that the people own nothing.
	That is their agenda, and they're determined to carry it out.
	Yep, that's it, because you're going to have bank failures as this commercial real estate hits the market, and these transactions are going to be mark-to-market, and they're going to be comps that the rest of the market will use when these big government buildings get...
	Liquidated for 60, 70 cents on the dollar.
	And then the rest of the real estate market will collapse.
	And then there goes your banks.
	And that's what these guys want because they're hedged.
	Believe me, they have all kinds of hedges and derivatives set up to protect themselves and take the whole country down and the whole economy down and then scoop in and pick up the bargains.
	It's going to be vulture capitalism.
	And Trump was just perfectly situated for this and has the exact right people around him.
	For a loot of this nature.
	And they're going to call it revolutionary.
	And they can, in some ways, kind of rightly say that it was inevitable.
	They're right.
	They would be right to say that.
	But they're there to finish the job.
	I'm convinced of that.
	Trump himself is not particularly responsible for where we've gotten.
	That was done by other criminals.
	Other criminals in the system did that, running up the debt.
	Biden, I think, played a big role in kind of bankrupting the country.
	And I've always considered Trump the finisher, and he's just proving it more and more every day.
	And right now, he's kind of riding along on what I call salami issues.
	And so he's doing some things that make the right...
	Kosher Wright happy.
	It's a little bit like...
	What's his name?
	The Jew guy.
	Musk.
	Oh, no.
	The guy's always teeing off on the leftist.
	Max Blumazow?
	Oh, no.
	Okay, forget it.
	There's a Jewish guy that's notorious for going around on campuses, making speeches, doing t-balls off of stupid leftists, and he's kind of created a career out of that.
	So that's what a salami strategy is.
	You know, you can take the easy pitches.
	The soft toss pitches, knock it out of the ballpark and say, hey, look what I did, DEI, look what I did, this salami issue and that salami issue, and kind of build up a measure of support while you carry out in the background these other dastardly deeds.
	Absolutely.
	Has that been part of the reason for introducing them in the first place, all the transgender and all that?
	Yeah, I think so.
	He knows he has the popular support.
	I think it's a long-term plan, exactly.
	It's a salami strategy.
	He has the popular support.
	He has to concede certain issues to the American public that are standing against DEI and wokeism and all that.
	He's catering to them so that he can basically sell himself off as their leader that's doing right by the right, the conservative traditional right, while at the same time selling America down the...
	River to total destruction.
	And that's the ballgame that he's been assigned.
	Yeah, it's Ben Shapiro's the guy I'm thinking about.
	So you take Ben Shapiro multiplied by, you know, a thousand, and that's what you're getting.
	Ben Shapiroism.
	Ben Shapiro got a big reputation for going to campuses and, you know, knocking leftists down the side.
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	It looks like Colonel McGregor has arrived at many of the same conclusions we're addressing He's talking with Judge Napolitano about Trump and his oligarchs.
	Let's listen to a part.
	My dear friend, I want to go right to what will soon be happening as we are on air, and that is the meeting between President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
	What does Netanyahu want from President Trump?
	Oh, that's a great question.
	I think what President Netanyahu wants is a guarantee of continued delivery of all the ordnance and military equipment that he needs, whether it comes in the form of F-35 jets or missiles, rockets, anything.
	And I think you will certainly get that.
	As you know, President Trump has just announced $1 billion worth of equipment on its way to Israel.
	So that's the first thing.
	The second thing is, I think there will be a discussion about what's happening in the region.
	And that's going to be difficult, because President Trump is not comfortable with what's happening in Gaza.
	Remember, he said, I want you to get it over with.
	Now, you and I regard that as a rather callous remark.
	Given that we're talking about the lives and property of tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people.
	Well, that hasn't happened, and what he's gotten is instead a truce.
	And I think there'll be some discussion about pressing ahead to, quote-unquote, finish the job in Gaza, whatever that means.
	And then there's the second part of this.
	What are we going to do to help the Israelis secure their northern border now with Syria?
	They've moved into Syria.
	They want to retain territory in southern Syria.
	Are we going to stand by that and allow them to acquire that?
	Let's see what else we're talking about here.
	The Israelis are going to have to make a decision relatively soon what to do about the Iran nuclear program.
	This is not an author of the so-called ceasefire.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, he didn't really address the Oliver question.
	He did not actually address it.
	Not really.
	Sorry about that.
	God!
	All this is so awful.
	Yes, the headlines, you know.
	It's the clickbait headlines.
	I am just so shocked.
	That's all Victor Hugo does is just clickbait headlines.
	People have got to get past that.
	I'm struck, too, by the termination of USAID. That really seemed to me to be a powerful, good thing to have done.
	Get this.
	USAID turned off suddenly.
	Politico can't pay their employees.
	Get this.
	Pfizer, number two in the list of top USAID contracts in 2024. Get this.
	97% of political contribution from USAID employees went to Democrats.
	Get this.
	Level of Democrat panic over Musk's freezing USAID. Unlike anything ever seen.
	Let's get this from Zero Hedge.
	A Democrat Party insider says a level of panic.
	Over President Trump and Elon Musk, Dodd freezing all USAID spending is unlike anything he's ever seen.
	The source described the development as a killing blow to the heart of the deep state.
	Hey, talk to a friend who has connection within the Democrat Party who's had the level of panic over Trump and Elon shutting down USAID is unlike anything he's ever seen.
	By following the money.
	Dodgers struck a killing blow to the heart of the Democrat deep state machine.
	Insider says, so reliant on USAID-funded schemes were Democrats in order to ram through their agenda.
	This is the equivalent of a 9-11 scale attack upon them.
	Moore, direct quote.
	This is worse than 9-11 for Democrats.
	USAID is the primary vessel they use to achieve their political agenda.
	U.S. is, and always has been, the primary source of funding for their influence-peddling schemes and their indirect source of income.
	More, based on the reaction from within the party.
	It seemed to me that dismantling USAID was Trump's biggest political victory to date.
	It was his enemy's golden goose.
	The source also claims Democrats are scrambling to hide their blatantly partisan USA 20 by going hard on talking points regarding initiatives under the program that on the face of it look reasonable.
	Another important addition.
	He said initial plans by the Democrats have their people, USAID, hide the partisan finding under unimpeachable initiatives.
	They'll push back really hard on certain line items that on their face look reasonable, expenditures more.
	Another likely solution for Democrats, they are used to reward VIPs, is use NGOs as an intermediary to...
	Direct funds where they want them to go.
	So basically, aid allocate under certain initiatives that look reasonable, and the Democrats redirect the money.
	So he stabs a dagger into the heart of the Democratic grifting, because the whole country is about grifting, particularly the political apparatus.
	So he stabs into the heart of the Democrat grifting and expands his own.
	And then he can just kind of walk around going, what?
	Trump, Trump, Trump.
	Like a St. Valentine's Day massacre, right?
	I mean, there's this one mob picking out the other.
	Good for him.
	Good for him.
	He took a shot at the Democrat grifting.
	Okay, well, what about your grifting, Trump?
	On the surface, it looks like, okay, this is a positive development.
	Sorry, go ahead, Jim.
	Go ahead.
	On the surface, it looks like it's a positive development, you know?
	You know, all this money laundering to the Democrats, you know?
	And also, we have to realize that, basically, U.S. aid has also been a front for the CIA regime change operation.
	They've engaged in so many millions of dollars.
	You know, all these other, quote, adversarial nations for regime change.
	And so it's a main funneling source for that.
	And we have to remember that that Victoria Nuland in 2014 spent what?
	Five billion dollars.
	What's that?
	Five billion.
	Yeah, $5 billion from USA to pay the rioters to overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine.
	So over and over, we're seeing what their object is.
	And then they invested $53 million into Echo Health, Peter Daszak, and...
	Dr. Fauci's outfit for the bio-warfare COVID-19.
	53 million into there.
	From who else?
	But USA, you know?
	So they see all these horrible, nefarious, basically, you know, killing sprees going on in the world with war and regime change operations and bio-warfare.
	You know, I mean, it's a horrible outfit with their NGOs and the, you know, national endowment, you know, for democracy, all of this.
	It's just a horror show.
	So, yeah, this is a good thing.
	But you see, on the other hand, with the whole Israel thing, where it's all going, you know, so.
	It's all bad, actually, in the overall big picture.
	Don't let the little things make you think, oh yeah, Trump's on our side.
	No, he ain't.
	Well, the other thing about this is that, of course, they're offering buyouts to government workers, including the CIA. So that's going to be a big economic hit.
	So you remove the one prop of the economy.
	One of the things that's really kept the economy Struggling but afloat is all this government largesse to NGOs, government workers, whatever.
	So once you remove that, then your economy really weakens very, very fast.
	So I think that's part of the plan, too, because you're removing an important prop that holds the economy together.
	These people make a lot of money, these NGOs and these employees, and there's millions of them.
	It's off the charts.
	The biggest employer of the United States is the United States Government Incorporated.
	And it's something like 2.3 million people are employed by the federal government.
	And so, yeah, they have this buyout plan that's good till Thursday for all these bureaucrats in our government to come forth and be paid.
	For, what, eight months through September of this year to find another job and, you know, retire from their positions in the government.
	There won't be any other jobs for them.
	That's the whole point.
	So far, there's only, what, 20,000, and that's calculated to be about 1% of the government employee population that's actually opting to do this.
	Really?
	That's all?
	That they have until tomorrow, supposedly.
	I bet you it's more than that.
	They're counting on the deadline.
	There's going to be more and more coming in.
	Musk was estimating, hey, we can get 10% of the population of employees out.
	Well, that's not going to happen, but right now it's like 1%.
	So yeah, it might go up to maybe 5%, 6%, maybe.
	Follow up on that story next week, Jim.
	Yeah, we will.
	We will, Russ.
	We will.
	Absolutely.
	We had other stories we want to hit, a few at least.
	Russia, of course, is still revealing that Trump-threatening Russia is going to go nowhere.
	Get this!
	BlackRock-backed hedge funds that placed giant foot options.
	Against the U.S. economy in a desperate attempt to blow up the Trump recovery on the launch pad.
	But is there any real Trump recovery as a bona fide?
	No, I mean, it's a big inflated stock market.
	This is the hedging I was telling you about, because they want to pull the plug.
	I'm telling you, they want to pull the plug.
	So they're setting up their protection on the downside.
	That's what this is.
	This is not to blow...
	Come on, Infowars.
	This is not to blow up the Trump recovery.
	It's to facilitate the Trump blow-up.
	Fascinating.
	Fascinating.
	What else do we have?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	And Bondi has been confirmed.
	It looks like RFK Jr. is going to be confirmed.
	Tulsi is going to be the tightest case.
	I personally believe she will also be confirmed.
	Massive exodus on the horizon.
	CIA offers buyouts to its entire workforce with the interstate pay and benefit as Trump moves to downsize federal bureaucracy.
	That's what Joaquin was just addressing.
	CIA offers sweeping buyouts to entire workforce.
	Swamp starts draining itself at 20,000 deep staters who accept Trump's buyout.
	We got FBI suing Trump to not disclose their names.
	That Pfizer on the list of USAID contacts has kind of blew me away, too, but it just shows how bad all this is.
	Here's something unsurprising in the extreme.
	Data shows COVID vaccinated women are 66% less likely to give birth.
	I mean, the whole thing was such a scam to reduce population.
	I think we all saw this coming.
	The Czech Republic has been suffering a catastrophic decline in the number of births since the mass vaccination campaign against COVID began in 2021. It has shown vaccinated women were 66% less likely to give birth in 2024 compared to unvaccinated women.
	The numbers are shocking.
	There's no other likely cause than the mRNA vaccine themselves.
	What else could it be?
	The truly scary thing is that the birth rate difference between vaccinated and unvax continues to increase.
	Steve Kirsch, the philanthropist and MIT scientist who founded the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation.
	Uncovered the shopping, finding publicly available health data from the Czech Republic.
	He charted birth rates from 2001 through 2024. They've been fairly static in the Czech Republic since 2001, other than an anomalous dip in 2012 from which the country immediately recovered.
	Late in 2021, my births in Czech Republic had plummeted.
	Kirsch was unable to compare births to COVID-vaccinated mothers versus unvaccinated.
	For every 1,000 unvaccinated women in 2023, there were 114 live births among vaccinated.
	The rate was only 42. From 2021 census in the Czech Republic, there were about 1.3 million women of childbearing age 18 to 39. 875,000 received one or more doses of COVID-vax.
	That's about 68% of childbearing age women in the country.
	421,000 did not get any dose of the jab, which was 32%.
	The vaccinated women outnumbered the unvaxed by slightly more than 2 to 1. Yet the unvaccinated women gave birth to more babies.
	Not as a statistic, but in sheer number.
	875,000 vaccinated gave birth to 36,328.
	The 421,000 vaccinated women gave birth to 48,199.
	I don't quite get, what did he mean, the vaccinated?
	The vaccinated gave birth to only 36, that's 875, and you only have as many unvaccinated, and yet they gave birth to more.
	Something's wrong with this sentence.
	Go right ahead, gentlemen.
	Russ, you're there in the Czech Republic.
	Well, they have funny demographics here.
	It's not favorable towards population growth.
	They're not letting people come here.
	I think they had a little bit of a baby boom after the...
	Purple Revolution in 89, so they kind of had some births during that period.
	But those women are getting to be pretty old.
	You know, they're in their early 30s, 35 years old, getting a little bit past childbearing age.
	And after that, they just didn't really have that many births there.
	So this is kind of another one of these screwed up demographics that can kind of explain some of this.
	But throwing the vaccine in, that's just like the coup de grace.
	So, Russ, the Czech Republic has not opened its borders to the influx of Muslims in North Africa and Middle East, huh?
	Right.
	Correct.
	There's never colonial countries that don't really feel the obligation.
	Right, right.
	Yeah, I think basically it's almost like a canary in the coal mine as far as the depopulation agenda, because, you know, you're going to find that the Western population, of course, including America and Europe, Western Europe especially, took the jab.
	And what jabs did they take?
	The mRNA.
	Killer jab.
	You know, Moderna and Pfizer.
	So, yeah, they're taking the biggest hit because that's all by design.
	They wanted to reduce the population with the largest middle classes, the largest goyim population, and they're going to get it, along with a lot of the deaths and maiming of the population as well.
	So, yeah, it's worked.
	They did overreach.
	But they're coming right back.
	Second day of Trump's presidency, he brings in Larry Ellison to explain that within 48 hours, they're going to have an mRNA vaccine for whatever ails you.
	Because he's got Texas data centers that are going to spit out all this information where you're going to get your local mRNA shot.
	They haven't given that up.
	We knew that.
	The UN agenda has always been there.
	To push the vaccines.
	And it's not over yet.
	Did you see where Ludnik, that's going to be running the sovereign fund, said that if we're going to be vaccinating people, the government's going to be buying millions of vaccines, then we need to get warrants on these vaccine companies.
	Stock equity and warrant positions.
	So that's the whole gripping mentality.
	Am I right to infer that?
	By getting your personal DNA, they're going to be able to tailor a vaccine specifically to kill you?
	I mean, that seems to me the agenda.
	Yeah, Trump was standing right next to Larry Ellison explaining this plan, this agenda that they have for basically...
	Removing a large segment of the American population that falls for the digital ID that they're pushing towards, they're going to get it.
	And they're going to get a lot more deaths with more of the mRNA vaccines.
	That's all part of their depopulation agenda.
	It's all just horrifying, you know.
	I have children and grandchildren who are going to...
	Live in a macabre world that is going to be so unhealthy in every possible way.
	I mean, mentally, physically, economically, politically.
	I'm horrified by the future that we are contemplating right now.
	Everything set up is a big trade.
	A big trade of warrants and equities.
	Puts and calls and derivatives and, you know, they've got the AI calculating the maximum return for certain events that they're going to manufacture.
	And so people say, well, they wouldn't take the country down.
	They would lose, too.
	No, that's not the way it works because they've got it all calibrated.
	Well, game.
	Yeah, they're globalists.
	They don't care about countries.
	To talk about one country doing this to the next, it's all...
	Basically, theatrical, maneuvering, staged operations that the globalists, the money changers, basically City of London crowd, the bloodlines that have been in charge for a long, long time on this earth.
	This is their agenda.
	Major depopulation and stripping the rights of all the people of the world and make it...
	Making it the one-world government, neo-feudal enslavement.
	That's where we're fast-headed.
	Under Trump.
	I mean, do you guys foresee, I mean, the future for my progeny?
	I mean, it's just, it's worse than black.
	I mean, it's a form of slavery.
	Ross, you don't see any way out of it?
	I really don't.
	Because it's just...
	I mean, the only thing is the pushback, how severe the pushback will be.
	But I think they're kind of ready for that, too, even domestically.
	Yeah.
	They're going to privatize the prisons.
	They're going to privatize the police.
	It's going to become big business to be thumping people's heads and putting them into private prisons, gulags.
	And that's another phase that I see.
	So it may not be the vaccine that gets you, but they'll put you in a gulag and send you down.
	You know, they're trying to model after this El Salvador situation.
	Well, El Salvador was an emergency situation where they had huge gangs of criminals.
	And so they're trying to kind of piggyback after that and say, well...
	We've got gangs of criminals, too, so we've got to use this model.
	So, again, it's this half-truth that gets twisted into, and while we're at it, round up all the anti-Semites.
	Right.
	They've criminalized dissidents.
	They're political opponents.
	Yeah.
	They've criminalized dissidents, so you can't speak the truth because they're going to come and round you up and put you into this.
	Private system that they've incorporated in El Salvador.
	So that's where we're all headed.
	You know, yeah, there can be pushback, but here's the key.
	You know, if people start going out and rioting in the streets, well, that's exactly what they want, you know?
	Then they declare martial law, emergency, you know?
	So it's like people have to...
	Use whatever means they have, whatever little money that people have.
	They cannot support the big corporations.
	They have to use cash because they have a whole plan to outlaw the cash, too.
	To make sure that every single transaction is done electronically with 24-7 surveillance.
	That's where we're fast-headed.
	The photo ID, photo recognition, all of it is like tracking every move that we're making.
	So it's up to us as individuals mobilizing together as a world population to try and do something to oppose it because they are moving fast.
	I mean, just a year ago, I wouldn't have thought that we are...
	We're going to be in this position right now where we're at.
	You know, they just accelerated everything, you know, because they are afraid of us.
	They know we outnumber them a million to one.
	So they are racing to the finish line to finish us off.
	And they kind of got some people sleeping because of these salami issues, you know, that they're kind of going, wow, that Trump guy really took care of that woke shit.
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	Give us a call if you want to share your thoughts with Russ Winter, Joaquin Agopian, and me.
	And the situation is, in my opinion, catastrophic.
	This thing with...
	Gaza.
	I've heard one theory that the Saudi Arabian, you know, MSBSM is going to propose to normalize relations with Israel if the Palestinians can stay in Gaza.
	This is a feint that's intended to set it up for him to become a hero and to explain the normalization of relations with his genocidal state.
	Does that make any sense to either of you?
	They can't stay in Gaza, really.
	It's real politic.
	It's just kind of like they've finished them.
	They really did.
	I mean, there can be some resistance in Gaza.
	That's about all we can really expect.
	And to suck the Americans in and start bleeding them, that's about the best outcome in this situation.
	I mean, Gaza is rubble.
	Yeah, they can't stay there.
	No, there's no way they're going to be able to avoid the plan of purging them by taking them out and putting them somewhere else or killing them.
	I'm afraid that's right.
	And they were on the way to normalization even prior to this whole, you know, October 7th bullshit.
	You know, Saudi Arabia.
	They were normalizing relations with Israel.
	They have been called the Jews of the Muslim world.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Many regard the Saudis as crypto-Jews.
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	They're going to have to pay some reparations to the Palestinians.
	Big reparations.
	Who's going to pay that?
	Trump?
	If they're going to move them out, they've got to have some walking away money.
	At least some restoration from their property, the properties that they lost, their lives that they lost.
	Those are big reparations that need to be paid.
	And then they need to be settled someplace.
	And like Trump is proposing, nice communities.
	Look at that.
	The roof is in the pudding.
	Yeah, they can't go back there.
	This is like cologne after the bombing of World War II. I mean, look at all that.
	Massive pile of rubble and debris.
	Good gravy.
	What is it?
	Like 97% of all the buildings have now been destroyed?
	Something like that.
	I mean, it's just appalling.
	This is one of the greatest atrocities of world history.
	World history.
	Right there, you're looking at it.
	And it's been made graphic with all the videos coming out, you know?
	We've never seen anything like this.
	Yeah, there's been genocides in the past, but we've never seen it up close and personal with all the technology of the videos streaming live.
	You know, I mean, you know, it's just horrible.
	And yet, the world passively sits and watches, you know?
	Yeah, B.B. and Trump are pretty smug about all this.
	Like, well, if this shit happens, shit happens, just move into nice communities where they can live in peace.
	Yeah.
	Get it over with, you know?
	He wants to develop it for his real estate investment, you know?
	God.
	Just horrible.
	And yet, who could have supported Kamala Harris or Tim Walz?
	I mean, with the open borders and all that.
	I mean, was that a setup?
	That's the other side of salami.
	See, that's the other side of salami.
	It's the salami issues.
	Well, the outcome would be the same.
	Harris and Biden represent the other end of the salami, you know, the wokeism, the nonsense, the retardation, senility, you know, terrible leadership.
	And now you shift it to the other end of the salami, which is this very, I don't know what to even call him.
	He's kind of a kosher right-wing devil, really.
	He's just really nasty and evil.
	He's as nasty and evil as...
	Biden was senile and evil.
	He's a thug.
	You're talking Trump, right?
	Trump.
	Trump versus Biden and the different ends of the salami and all the issues and the baggage that go with them.
	They're salami issues.
	They're not in the middle.
	They're not what people really want.
	They're at extremes.
	And that's how these, it's really a kind of a Hegelian dialectic Jewish plot of how they do this kind of stuff.
	I'm convinced of that.
	And they're long-term in planning.
	They've put in place over decades.
	Trump didn't invent the salami strategy.
	It's been, like I say, it's been in play, but he's a finisher.
	His role is to play his role in the salami strategy.
	Meanwhile, there's a lot of middle ground that just sort of gets ignored.
	You know, moderate.
	Reasonable solutions to issues.
	It's always like one salami or another.
	Does that make sense?
	I'm sorry, it does make sense.
	Sadly, it makes sense.
	Joaquin, your further thoughts.
	You guys off of the Czech Republic and Bali, you know, you may have made a wise decision.
	I'm here.
	Well, unfortunately, I think it's a globalized movement.
	So, you know, you can go to another country and have maybe an illusion of peace of mind a little bit more than you would if you were still in America.
	But like I say, it's a globalized movement toward this autocratic...
	It's a neo-feudal enslavement system that we're going to be under with one world government.
	It's a de facto one world government and has been now for some time.
	Whereas the rulers of this earth that have all the material wealth that buy off with bribery and blackmail all the politicians, all the countries, especially in the West, and then they have the controlled opposition.
	Of the Eastern countries, you know?
	I mean, even the BRICS was a Goldman Sachs executive that came up with the whole concept of BRICS. So I think that this, it's always, and Trump has been also a controlled opposition.
	I've been saying this for years now.
	So we're seeing it.
	We're seeing that how they've been used both sides.
	They use the dialectic, the problem-reaction solution, over and over and over to centralize their power and control over the massive global population.
	That's where we're fast-headed, and it makes me spin, because they've speeded up this acceleration so much now into basically materializing and formalizing their agenda for one-world governance.
	Russ, tell us more about some of the latest you have on Winter Watch, because I agree with your encouragement to check it out.
	You seem to me to be doing a splendid job on exposing forms of corruption right and left from virtually every...
	I kind of go back and do a lot of...
	I have an article I re-ran today called Voice of God Mind Control, which I'm becoming more and more...
	I'm convinced of.
	There's one called the Naurat Revelations, which is an old story, mind-controlled Manchurian candidates from back in the 70s, kind of some revelations that came out, old history.
	I have a story called Victor Hugo Vaca, demonstrates in spades his hyper-lowbrow immaturity.
	You can read that story if you want to fill in a little bit more on him.
	I have a story called where the Atlanta child murders actually committed by a predatory ring of pedophiles and pederasts.
	And I think what happened in Atlanta, where they kind of pinned it on one guy that may have been involved in some strange shit, Williams.
	But I think they had such a huge problem in the black community with child murders during that period.
	That they kind of tried to cover it up and just pin it on one guy and make it look like an outlier, when in reality it was like about four or five, six men that were operating there during those years.
	I did an analysis of the Leave the World Behind movie, some of the strange events in that movie.
	I thought you'd elaborate.
	That's the Obama film?
	Yeah, predictive programming.
	Yeah, right.
	Let's talk about that, the two of you.
	And where's Obama?
	What's happened to Michelle?
	I mean, this is all pretty weird.
	Divorce!
	Has he been playing hide the salami with Jennifer Aniston?
	Speaking of salami...
	So yeah, that's about it.
	And then there's Around the Web, and I have the Sovereign Wealth Fund story.
	No, I mean it.
	I want to hear about that Obama movie as predicting programming.
	Tell us what's in it.
	I've not seen it.
	Well, okay, let me just open it up here and kind of refer to it.
	So you've got...
	The movie is rife with premonitions, neolinguistic programming, predictive programming, and anti-white sentiment.
	And then you've got a scene that's gone viral after planes have gone.
	You know, over the last week, planes have just been dropping out of the sky, right?
	Yeah.
	Around the United States.
	It's really strange.
	That's in the movie.
	Yeah, the guys just, planes are dropping all the time.
	Planes just drop from the sky.
	And what's the explanation?
	Well, you know, did you ever see it, Joaquin?
	That movie?
	No, I haven't.
	Okay, well, basically, they don't really know.
	You've got these characters that are just kind of caught in the middle of it, and it just seems to be happening.
	It just seems like all the electronics and communications and...
	The milk of what makes things work all of a sudden break down, start malfunctioning.
	It probably is a precursor of AI, what AI might look like, what AI kind of takes over all of a sudden and goes haywire.
	I think there's elements of that in there.
	They have a ship running aground.
	They have a scene where radio communications go off.
	There's out-of-control driverless cars.
	And then there's a scene...
	Right out of...
	I mean, they have white cars.
	It's amazing.
	The driverless cars in the movie crash into each other on the highway.
	And then they're all white.
	And then it's the exact same thing as La Haina and Palisades.
	It's almost the exact same picture with the white cars.
	I thought that was pretty strange.
	There's kind of the noise broken glass scene where all of a sudden things start rattling out of nowhere.
	There's sort of the drone issue.
	You know, you have the drone issue in New Jersey.
	There's some kind of precursors to that in this movie.
	There were cyber attacks, isolating people with power and satellite outages, synchronized chaos with misinformation campaigns.
	And the message is we're not going back to normal.
	It's sort of the message of this Klaus Schwab.
	Klaus Schwab, he's saying, well, we're not going to go back to normal.
	It's not going to be the same conditions as you had before.
	You're going to have to change.
	That's what it's about.
	It's sort of a cyber pandemic situation.
	Joaquin, what were they doing making this movie in the first place?
	What the hell would the Obamas have to do with movie making?
	The satanic elements always have predictive programming as part of their agenda to always be able to put something out, whether it's a movie that Obama produces or an episode of The Simpsons.
	They're very famous, infamous for actually doing predictive programming to put stuff out there that basically the people don't get.
	And then they can always come back and say, well, we told you so.
	We put it out there already.
	It's some kind of satanic kind of obedience.
	Black magic.
	They put a bug in people's minds very subliminally.
	So if you watch a movie like this and then you start reading in the news where planes are dropping out of the sky, it's like somehow you kind of...
	Aren't surprised.
	It's preconditioning.
	Yeah.
	That's what it is.
	Setting the people up to be able to accept and, quote, adjust to the changing environment, changing conditions.
	The abnormal becomes normal.
	It's kind of how conditioning to make the abnormal become normal.
	Oh, I've seen this scene before.
	This seems familiar to me.
	This could be real.
	That type of thing.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't have anything too much more profound to say about it.
	It's just black magic.
	It's so bizarre they would be making a movie.
	I mean, and it had to be propagandistic, and it had that malevolent intent.
	And it just was obscure to me what was really going on.
	There's one scene where there's a lot of mixed-race stuff.
	You know, I hate to address this kind of stuff because it sounds kind of racist.
	But then you watch a movie like that, and you kind of go, so those characters are black, and this guy's highly professional, and he's kind of one of the good guys.
	And these people are white, and they're kind of stupid.
	And then there's white people out on the road that are just basically not able to handle the situation.
	A lot of that going on.
	You see that in multiple movies, multiple disaster movies.
	And so this black guy who owns the house that they're renting in some vacation area, all of a sudden shows up with his daughter.
	And then he starts talking about, just out of the blue, starts talking about my job is pattern recognition, you know, recognizing the patterns and a bunch of mumble jumble like that.
	So if you go to the article, you can see the whole scene.
	I mean, I guess I could play it, but...
	Yeah, sure.
	Let me make you...
	The problem is I have to find it and not disconnect to everybody.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's okay.
	Hang on.
	Let me find it.
	Yeah, here it is.
	The knock at the door.
	Okay.
	Your host.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Lock at the door.
	Cher?
	You do it.
	Yeah.
	See it?
	Yeah, there it is.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Here's the knock at the door.
	What did you come here?
	A line of words.
	You have to understand the patterns.
	That's Julia Roberts, is it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	She's in this movie?
	So he knew something was coming.
	Am I kind of lurk?
	You need to understand the patterns that govern this world.
	I knew something was coming.
	I don't understand.
	A cyber pandemic?
	What is the truth?
	So there are other well-known actors in here.
	Yeah, it's a pretty big-budget movie, I think.
	There's the plane crash.
	You're the one who always said, if you're not paranoid by now, it's too late.
	And this tanker is about to run it round?
	Yeah, everything's remote controlled.
	Just like the plane's going down.
	There's no going back to normal.
	Okay.
	Give it back to you.
	Okay.
	So, I mean, what do you make of that?
	I make of it that's just reinforcing the...
	The big change is coming.
	This guy had premonitions himself.
	It just shows up and announces to these people that are vacationing his house.
	Because shit's starting to happen out there.
	And people are starting to show up on the TV. And people initially have some questions.
	What's going on?
	But probably no different than what we experience going through some of these events.
	This plane crashing over the Potomac.
	Black Off helicopter comes flying up into it.
	Those are a lot of pretty strange events that are kind of inexplicable.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we haven't had these crashes since 2001. Yeah, that one is very, very weird.
	I mean, to me, that sort of has one of those stage qualities, or set up.
	It was something that was set up there.
	Some of the video, and I gather there are inconsistent videos.
	The helicopter, the chopper is just flying right into the plane.
	I mean, there's just no question.
	It's on the horizontal.
	It's about 200 feet higher altitude than it ought to be.
	Totally deliberate.
	Totally deliberate.
	I don't see any way around that.
	White path around an airport where, you know, you've got to be pretty damn careful and, you know, probably shouldn't even be there.
	It was supposed to be on a continuity of government flight?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it was like 300-something feet, you know, over 100-something higher than it should have been.
	It's probably been remote-controlled collision.
	That's my conclusion.
	Yes.
	Got real hard for people to deliberately...
	Fly themselves and do their own death, you know, to commit suicide even if it's somewhere to chop her.
	And then they inject one of these salami issues into it, the DEI stuff, you know, woman pilot and all this kind of stuff.
	You're sitting there shaking your head.
	Oh, then one story got around.
	It was claimed to be false, that it was a transgender, and then it flipped back to a woman.
	And you're kind of shaking your head going, well, what's that all about?
	That's kind of part of a salami narrative.
	And they waited like a week for finally the identity of the so-called woman.
	That was in that helicopter.
	In the meantime, like two days prior, they were saying, yes, a transgender he-she was actually piloting that plane at the time that had happened, and they were reacting to Trump's plan to get rid of all the he-she's, you know, the transgender population in the military.
	You know, that's all these psyops, you know?
	That certainly crossed my mind at the time that it was.
	We had a photograph of her with another woman.
	If she were a lesbian, she's an aide to Biden.
	Then it could have been some kind of protest against Trump's policies to get them out of the military.
	That seemed to me kind of plausible, but I don't know now.
	What do you think it was all about, Joaquin?
	What's the point?
	Well, you know, it's kind of going right along with the...
	The movie that Russ Winter has been showing us, you know?
	I mean, nothing is normal anymore.
	And every week, there's a new crisis, a new catastrophe, you know?
	I mean, a little while ago, it was all the drones flying over the East Coast, and then they had the death fog showing up, you know, in various regions, you know?
	I mean, every week is something else, you know?
	Yeah, it's not going to, quote, be normal ever again.
	They're accelerating all their destructive means of disposable to them.
	Yeah, I mean, this is probably what a Trump-era psyops looks like.
	So you're shifting into a new era where Trump is probably incorporating some of these psyops to back up his narrative and his agenda.
	And so they kind of fit with his...
	Message.
	And reinforce his message.
	And man, four more years of this shit.
	What is Trump's message, Ross?
	I'm lost.
	Well, he kind of wants to, you know, he kind of wants to reform and get rid of the DEI stuff and the inequities involved with that, which we all agree with.
	I mean, you know, these are salami issues that I support in some ways of what he's doing.
	And it's revenge against the Democratic Party, you know, the same ballgame where, you know, it's one group against another, dialectic problem, reaction, solution.
	You know, it's just going to go on and on.
	And, you know, the bottom line, though, we started the show with the whole situation with Palestine and the Palestinians and Israel.
	And there is going to be World War III, and unfortunately it will be the West, you know, represented by Zionism, versus Iran representing Islam.
	That's where it's going.
	And I don't think the Ukraine war is quite done yet.
	Did you catch the latest by our friend who we had as a guest?
	Mr. Gordon Duff, did you catch that latest article that he wrote?
	Yeah, what was that about the Malaysian flight?
	No, no, it was a more recent one.
	He's basically come up with a, there's an agenda that Trump is actually going to trick Russia into some kind of peace resolution.
	And then have NATO attack Russia.
	That's what Gordon Duff's latest article is projecting.
	That's not so far patched.
	What do you think?
	No, it isn't, because every agreement that America has ever signed, they renege on.
	They can't be trusted.
	So, you know, it sounds plausible and feasible that America would even pull something like this.
	Yeah, that's very disturbing.
	Like Operation Barbarossa in 1941. But Russia can still wipe out the West effortlessly.
	I mean, this is committing suicide.
	That's right.
	They out-compete us in military strength, be it weaponry, be it the number of soldiers, the quality of their fighting capability.
	They out-beat us in every aspect of war.
	So it's a setup for failure.
	Again, more failure on the bringing down of America.
	Thank you for a wonderful and profoundly disturbing conversation today.
	Everyone, spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, and people you love and care about, because we do not know how much time we have left, and Trump may have extended or abbreviated.
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