The RAW DEAL Jan 8, 2025 w Host Victor Hugo Vaca, Joachim Hagopian, Russ Winter & Ryan Veli
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This is the Maverick artist Victor Hugo sitting in for your host.
Jim Fetzer, who is right now in the hospital, and we are, at least I can't speak for all of you, but I'm assuming, sending prayers and blessings to Jim Fetzer in the hopes that he recovers quickly from whatever it is that ails him.
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Okay, so today we are joined by Joachim Hagopian, Russ Winter, and Ryan Veli.
So you do have the fierce foursome here, minus Jim Fetzer.
And we're going to do it a little bit differently.
We're not going to read articles.
We are going to get straight into the news.
And the news right now, we have Ryan Valley in Canada.
And Justin Trudeau has said that he is going to resign.
He hasn't officially resigned.
He's going to be there for a couple of more months.
And just like Joe Biden, he can cause all kind of havoc.
So, Ryan Veli, can you give us an on-the-ground report of what's going on with Justin Castro?
And did he actually say he's going to resign, or is this just a bait-and-switch?
Well, he said he's going to step aside once the leadership convention occurs.
So, to me, it was a de facto concession that he is going to be stepping aside.
Can he do a lot of damage before he leaves?
Yes.
Is he a West stooge?
Yes.
Is he from a bloodline family?
Yes.
The Sinclair and Castro, which is Farnese.
Did he go on a ski trip with his younger brother and his brother disappeared and was never found by the military?
Yes.
Was he working at the West Academy in BC and he had to leave halfway through the year for having a relationship with a child that was around 13 years old?
Yes.
Did the father of that child go to the US and speak because he was not Par to the agreement about Justin Trudeau and his, I guess, I don't know what age he was, but he was old enough to be a teacher and he was having sex with a child.
So that is all fact.
Justin Trudeau is a pedo.
He's a freak.
He's an asshole.
And everybody hates him.
Pretty much everybody in Canada who is aware despises this man.
He's the most hated Canadian in Canadian history.
Even Bernardo and Homoka, who murdered people they had sex with.
They're not as hated as Justin Trudeau.
So he's widely despised internationally and domestically, and everybody is pleased he's going.
The problem is that it looks like who he's going to be replaced with is Pierre Polyev, who's another Zionist puppet who comes from a lineage of two gay dads and has never worked a day in his life.
He's a queer politician, and every time he gets a chance to, you know, talk up Israel and genocide, he does so.
So we're switching one globalist for another, one globalist that was widely despised, like a Biden character, for one that people think is going to solve the problems, because anything's better than Trudeau, but they're going to flip him out and put in a stooge, and it's going to be more of the same, but this time in a blue tie instead of a red tie.
Thank you, Ryan, for that on-the-ground information.
I just want to remind everybody that we are on the radio, so we have to follow FCC regulations, which means that we cannot use any of the George Carter's seven dirty words.
Thank you.
Russ, what's going on in your neck of the woods over there?
Well, I want to just comment on what we're seeing here.
We're seeing the salami strategy.
The salami strategy, that's when they go left, they go right, and then get you in the middle.
You know, this new guy is this more kosher right salami strategy.
And that's the big push around the world is kosher right.
And I think the true nature of this kosher right movement is Cheka, where they round up the so-called anti-Semites and then this totally dominate right-wing politics in a really, really bad way.
Joaquin, what's your take on this?
Yeah, I did a chapter on Canadian pedophilia, which talked about all the disappearing native population up there.
They use them all the time.
As a matter of fact, and also, yes, I exposed in my chapter on Canada, Justin Castro, for being a pedophile, yes.
He was a teacher at about 27, and he had sex with a...
14 or 15-year-old girl.
So, anyway, where was I going now?
Well, that's about Canada.
I'm not that much of a next year.
And then becoming prime minister.
So, let's get to the topic of a 27-year-old having sex with a minor, then becoming prime minister, and then saying that he's going to resign.
Is that it?
Does he then get to go live out the rest of his life with a pension paid for by Canadian taxpayers on a remote island where he could then have sex with minors again and nothing happens?
Will there be accountability for these pedophile prime ministers?
The history is they never are held accountable.
All the ones that are in the national government level and higher, they never are brought to justice.
It has yet to happen.
I don't think...
Sorry, Victor.
It won't be just one leader alone brought to justice.
It's either all of them involved in this are brought to justice, or none of them involved in this are going to be brought to justice.
None have been brought to justice, and yet a vast majority are compromised or full-blown pedophiles.
How do you suppose this is happening, Russ?
Why do people like Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton end up receiving awards rather than prison sentences or death penalties?
Because they plan to put these guys into power.
That's the plan.
That's the underlying technique.
It's the turtle on the fence post.
You can say that Dustin Trudeau is unpopular, but how long was he prime minister?
I mean, he had quite a reign.
He got elected a second time.
Apparently some people liked him up there.
Some people gave him a pass.
I mean, we can't blame it all on cheating at the ballots.
You know, the same with Trump.
He's been elected twice.
So it's just they groom these guys.
They pick them out.
They want this type of background.
They seek it out.
Joaquin, you've done several books.
Trump is no different.
He's a pedophile, too.
Now, maybe he's not screwing little girls anymore, but he did when he was a friend of Jeffrey Epstein.
He was actually, in 2016, brought to court.
No, it didn't go that far.
There was a suit that was filed by a victim, and she was like 13 at the time.
And that was in the days that he was running all the time down in Florida and Palm Beach and then up there in Manhattan with his best buddy.
He goes on national TV and says, oh yeah, he's a really good guy, a good buddy of mine, Jeffrey Epstein.
This is before he got busted.
Oh, he likes the young ones.
He actually comes out and says that.
He knew.
Anyway, yeah.
He has engaged.
Why would he be interested in beauty pageants in Moscow, of all things?
That's a long ways to go, just to look at beautiful women.
Come on.
He's got an interest in that type of thing.
Yeah.
He's been friends with...
The person was going to take him to court, and they paid her off, and she went away, and the court case went away, and he got elected against Hillary.
That's what happened.
Go ahead.
Can I just point out he was pals with Hillary, he was pals with the Clintons, Oprah, Weinstein, Epstein, Pop Daddy, every single pedophile, Bill Gates, all these guys.
He's friends with all of them.
But no.
He's different.
He's special.
He's the new deity.
He's the savior, the orange savior.
Let me ask you guys, just from a psychological perspective, this seems to cross from Canada to England to the United States.
Is it just human nature that the population wants to be led by corrupt pedophiles?
Or why are we, as a human species, being led by pedophiles?
Ignorance.
They buy into the deception.
I just wrote an article today and I mentioned how we're programmed to worship the people that have all the material.
You know, accoutrements of success were programmed in this way to be materialistic, certainly in American society, and to look up to them.
I mean, look at the royal family of Britain.
They're all pedophiles, basically.
And even Harry and William ran with P. Diddy.
And, of course, you know, Jimmy Savile was...
The king's best buddy, you know?
I mean, Saville provided him with kids, you know?
So, you know, and I did two out of five books on Teofilia on Britain alone.
I mean, they are the epicenter of all.
And now the Keir Starmer prime minister, he was the justice minister.
Back when the whole deal with the Pakistani grooming gangs were raping little white girls in Britain.
And they got away with it.
They did not prosecute these guys.
And the reason?
Because they didn't want to be looked upon as racist.
That's the excuse.
Karma also covered up for the Prime Minister Edmund Heath, who's clearly a full-born pedophile.
And so there's a whole network around him.
That goes back to the 80s, I believe.
So I would just throw that in.
I think that there's sort of a deal going on.
There's a very organized, what I would call a pervert justice warrior movement that I used to talk about when I covered Pizzagate.
And if you go online, there's just a lot of bots and people that defend.
They can't believe that this is happening.
Either that or they're trying to cover it up.
I go with the latter.
I just think it's a big cover-up movie where they gaslight anybody that brings this out.
And I kind of was watching this JonBenét Ramsey show, a show about JonBenét Ramsey and her parents on Netflix.
And they didn't kill that little girl.
Come on.
They did not kill that little girl.
Some pervert got into their house and murdered their six-year-old daughter, and yet they just ran.
Rather than accepting the fact that perverts live, monsters live, they turned on these parents and ran them through hell.
That's a show everybody should watch because that's an example of pervert justice warriors.
Geraldo Rivera was in on it because they went after the parents.
And blame this crime on them.
And that was a travesty.
It kind of shows how it works.
I'll add that a human civilization is ripe with a lot of sexual dysfunction.
So they condition us, and especially the way they rape kids, it programs them with their first sexual experience to many of them wanting that when they're older.
So they do this in religious indoctrination.
Both rabbis, priests, and imans do this to children.
It's been normalized in a lot of cultures because it's been so ingrained, like in Afghanistan and places like that.
So it's been normalized.
So this demonic practice has been normalized across a lot of the planet.
For our conditioning, so many people have been programmed through the idiot box that they can't believe that the people that rule them, that they look up to, are actually doing this stuff.
So they attack the people exposing it instead of doing the own internal reflection and saying, am I wrong?
But people today refuse to admit they're wrong, even though 99% of what they believe is wrong, they won't accept any of it.
So they would rather reject those that are pointing out facts with evidence.
Here's the facts.
They'd rather say, no, I won't look at it.
I'll be ignorant and I'll just go along with the mainstream.
So they don't have to confront any of this.
And more importantly, don't have to act.
If people accepted and understood that children are being hurt every single day by the people we look up to and pay taxes to and imbued with power and authority over us, then they would have to do something.
So it's easier for them to say, no, it's not happening because I'll have to do something if I acknowledge it.
And by saying it's not happening, and saying by that it's happening, they extend it to society in general, like the Pizzagate stuff.
You know, that may not necessarily involve key politicians.
They even extend it to that.
So they've got the cover-up going there because they can't get it out of their brains.
Or somebody's ticking their brain.
I don't know exactly sure how it's done, you know, psychological stuff.
But just to say, oh, there's not monsters out there.
There's not somebody who's going to crawl through your window and grab your six-year-old daughter and murder and rape her.
That didn't happen.
And there's the CIA. That came out with a conspiracy theory.
So they write people off.
They dismiss people that expose the truth as just conspiracy nuts.
Just like the death fog out there.
You know?
Oh, that's just stupid people that don't understand what's going on.
Well, there's something to the death fog.
It looks like it's a step up from the kill shot.
More direct.
Yeah.
What's happening in England right now is being seen on the world stage as an example of what's ailing the entire world, which is cowardice.
The fact that this is being swept under the rug and that men in England have just stood by while their wives, their daughters, and their sisters have been gang raped by these grooming gangs and have been I want to ask each one of you,
what does this say about the current state in 2025 of both men and women, men in not protecting their women or children, and women in being so woke?
That they actually allow this to happen.
Because really, there's fault on both men and women for this to have gotten to this point.
You can start off, Russ, for us.
That's kind of a deep question.
I mean, I really don't have the answer to that.
But, I mean, I have sort of a sidebar answer to a related topic.
But why don't you guys go ahead and deal with this?
I don't know.
I don't know why this...
You're asking a $64,000.
I figured I'd start with you, Russ, because you're a guy.
So I figured you'd be the right guy to start with on this.
Well, you know, some of it is just not getting involved in other people's business and trying to be private.
You know, a lot of it has to do with that.
You know, you don't want to go out and accuse somebody of grooming somebody in your community of grooming.
And then once you stick your nose into it, you're going to get yourself killed.
You know, we're going back to that.
Or at minimum have pizzas delivered.
Who's got the courage to go after grooming gangs?
Come on, Victor.
Males and females have a real problem now.
The sperm level in men is dropping.
Women are becoming white men more all the time.
You know, it's not a good situation.
I think that men are wusses in general, especially, I guess, the Western male.
They fed into this whole wokeism thing, and they're kind of feminine now.
And a lot of them, you know, obviously are delusional.
A certain percentage, low still, but quite a few amongst younger generations think they're transgender and think they're the opposite sex in their biological birth, which is totally delusional, psychotic.
But anyway, yeah.
In England, where I call it the pedophilia epicenter of the world, they have an elite class there.
They go off to schools, and they're not co-ed generally.
They're all male, all female.
And they learn to be basically homosexual at those schools that they attend.
And when they're young, you know, 10, 11, the older boys get to them and sodomize them.
And then they turn around when they're older and start sodomizing children as well.
It's kind of almost an elitist tradition to actually go that route.
And then, you know, because it's all the Parliament and the rest of the King Tut's up there in the government are pedophiles or enablers, you know, they fit right into the system.
You know, so it's kind of within that elite class in Europe, but especially...
Britain.
And then they bring all their sodomy friends into the government with them.
Like one big club.
Yeah.
Ryan, what do you have to say about this?
So I think it goes to the co-opting of human civilization millennia ago and bringing us into cities and putting over us hierarchical structures that are dark in nature that use this as a mechanism to weaken us.
Once you've damaged a child young like that, they never fully grow up for the most part unless they've done some serious healing.
So those that have been sexually abused are easy to be order followers.
So a lot of the order followers are sexually abused.
They're scared and wounded as children.
This is a moral softening of our society where if you get to the kids and you damage them, they never actually become men.
So what you're describing in our civilization is that a whole bunch of men that never grew up.
Didn't accept responsibility for our civilization.
Didn't accept responsibility for protecting our women.
Didn't accept responsibility for protecting the weak and the children.
Therefore, you get this kind of government.
So when we become better people, we'll get better government.
And by extension, these are the pervert justice warriors that I was talking about earlier because of the way they're brought up.
Yeah.
I agree with you, Ryan.
And one of the things I'm noticing is missing is good old street justice.
I mean, what happened to a good old lynching?
And I'm not talking about the color of people's skin.
But back in the day, if somebody did something heinous like that, like rape or murder, and this is still happening, by the way, in Mexico.
If something happens like that in Mexico, they just take care of it themselves.
They don't go to seek justice in a court.
And that's the other thing, is that they know they're going to get away with it in our civilization and get less time in jail than somebody who does anything else.
So in Canada, they barely even put them in jail.
So they're lucky if they see a month in jail after getting caught molesting children.
So they're back out on the street.
So they know there's going to be basically no penalty.
Big deal.
If you're rich enough, you just pay them off, like we've seen with Queen Justine up here in Canada.
So this is really, really bad.
And we don't have a tribal system anymore, and they go after the victim.
So like you said, a woman gets raped, she pepper sprays the rapist, and she gets arrested.
So they throw us in jail, and they make sure, and again, you ask anybody in the correctional system, they throw you in jail to get raped by other inmates.
That's part of the imprisonment thing.
So as long as we treat human beings like that, it's...
It's horrendous that we treat anybody like that.
Even if they're offenders, they shouldn't be abused or tortured in jail.
It just makes the problem worse, and it propagates people and dysfunction.
So really, it's a bad situation, and I think it's done by design to weaken us, to keep us controllable, and for control files.
So as soon as you're involved in that stuff, you're going to go right to the top.
Because the establishment can trust you that you'll never say anything or turn against them because they have the tapes of your kids.
So I think we're coming up on a break here soon.
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When we come back, I'd like to touch on some topics in the United States, or the Junited States of Israel, as I'd like to call it.
I'm noticing that the attention is being taken away from what's happening in Syria, in Lebanon, and in Palestine, with Israel being sponsored by the United States taxpayers committing genocide, primarily against Christians, because Syria has a lot of Christians in it.
It's one of the most ancient Christian civilizations.
And also...
In Palestine, some of the most ancient Christian churches are there, and they're just being leveled by the Jews and Israel, and nobody's saying anything.
So when we come back, I want to talk about how MSNBC is now labeling veterans in the USA as terrorists that are more dangerous than the sleeper cells that are in there from China, the sleeper cells that are in there from the Middle East, with Joaquin Hagopian being a veteran and Ryan Veli.
A veteran.
Russ Winter, are you a veteran of the U.S. military?
No, I'm not.
Thank God, because that would have been like a Vietnam warrior, and that was really an unjust war.
So when we come back, we'll hit those topics.
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Hi, you're listening to The Raw Deal with your host, the Maverick artist, Victor Hugo, sitting in for the one and only Jim Fetzer.
I am joined by Joachim Hagopian, Ryan Veli, and Russ Winter.
And before the break, Hunter was telling us why he's glad he didn't join the U.S. military because he would have been some Vietnam something or other.
But, Russ, before you explain what you meant by that statement, how does it feel to be on this program with three, as MSNBC would call us, terrorists that are worse than any Chinese sleeper cells or Venezuelan gangs in the United States?
How does it feel to be with such evil people next to you?
Just more ridiculous narrative.
But I got, you know, the other thing is Facebook.
Let's look at what Facebook's doing, okay?
All of a sudden, Facebook's becoming kosher-friendly.
You know, kosher right-wing friendly.
Yeah.
Out of the blue.
And then the second factoid is you got the Israelis and their oligarchs, you know, zylgarchs.
Ramping up a $150 million program to pay influencers in Hasbara.
So we're just going to be deluged with this stuff.
And what you just said is just part of the narrative.
Military people are terrorists.
It's going to be very anti-Muslim.
They're going to unload on the Muslims because they want to destroy that whole part of the world.
So that's really sickening to see.
I mean, pizza delivers might be the least of our worries in this scenario.
Can I just add that Zionists were the original terrorists, and when the British were in control of Palestine, as it's termed, it was the Zionists that were doing terrorism, and that's how they were going about getting the land and hijacking it from the actual...
Legitimate occupants of that territory.
So the word terrorist, the first time it was being used, was Zionist terrorists.
That's where it came from.
Well, it goes back to 70 A.D. when the Romans showed up to deal with them.
You realize you're both being anti-Semitic, right?
They're not Semites.
Not to mention racist.
It's not a race.
They're not Semites.
So, Russ, can you fill me in?
What's going on?
The Jews are giving out 150, what is it, million or billion shekels to get people to start saying the Jews are old?
Yeah, and opening up all these platforms like Facebook for them to go wild and just brainwash people with this narrative, whatever narratives they want.
I mean, the one you just talked about.
I mean, you won't be able to see it, and you can see, you know, we won't have a voice at all.
That's what's so sad about this thing.
We will have no voice whatsoever in this kosher right movement.
And the kosher right movement is going to end up being a Cheka that's going to come after anybody that doesn't fit in with the kosher right, and probably some leftists to boot.
So in some ways, we may have some natural alignment with some at least anti-war leftists.
So like Ben Shapiro would be considered kosher right?
Is that what you're saying?
Ben Shapiro would be kosher right?
Right.
He's always been kosher right.
Alex Jones?
Alex Jones.
They're amplifying those voices.
Some of the people you talk about, you know, Sergeant Report or whatever, that's kosher right.
Anybody that won't whisper a word about the Gaza genocide, What's interesting is Facebook is now admitting that they've been censoring people.
Mark Zuckerberg came out and says, we're not going to censor people anymore.
And yet there's no accountability for any of this.
Elon Musk say that he was going to release all the information about Twitter, and yet nothing happened with that.
I never saw any of the Fauci files.
The people admitted that the CIA was running Twitter, and yet nothing happened.
Again, there's just no accountability.
As long as there's no accountability, I don't see how any of this is going to...
Joaquin?
They steer the narrative.
They put the money up.
And shape the media as they want it to be.
And we're the only guys, you know, the small-time alt-media people are the only ones that are telling some kind of alternative view of the world that isn't so rosy or kosher.
You know, it makes our job even more important because they're going to want to shut us all down anyway.
It's only a matter of time, I think.
Ryan, am I correct?
Okay, I just wanted to get your take.
Is this a trap by Facebook to say that they're not censoring so that people could go on there and then AI could find out who the people are that are speaking as anti-Semites and then show up there with 40 pizzas?
Yeah, totally targeting, and it's always a trap.
It's Facebook.
Zuckerberg is a Greenberg or whatever.
He's one of them.
So nothing that he operates with is going to be legitimate.
But you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
The Zionists have exposed themselves on TikTok doing war crimes, and everybody knows it.
The whole younger generation knows it.
Nobody's getting fooled by their shit.
So I gotta go.
God bless Jim.
He's a real monolith and a hero for truth and exposed incredible false flags.
And again, like, I'm sorry to jump off, but I did have a prior appointment.
So God bless you all.
Nice meeting you, Russ, Joaquin, Victor.
Thank you.
God bless.
And keep up the good fight.
Let truth prevail.
Good comments, Ryan.
Great comments.
Thanks for joining us, man.
Thanks for joining us.
So, Russell, what's on your radar for this week?
what would you like to tackle?
Kind of drawing a blank.
Hang on a minute.
Go to my...
Okay, no problem.
Joaquin, why don't you fill us in on the article that you just published today?
Yeah.
Apparently, in late December, probably the last two, three days of December, A lot of people in America.
A lot of people in Britain also.
Other places.
I heard Sweden also.
And Canada.
A lot of people were noticing.
They look outside and they see the particulates in the fog coming down.
Normal or natural fog.
And it was pretty much man-made, manufactured, and probably coming out as aerosol from a drone.
That's how I'm interpreting it.
They kind of set it up with November and December being the drone month, you know, where everybody went outside, saw the drones, and that was a big psyops.
And then it switches now, apparently, to the death fog.
Death fog now.
I mean, they've done some experiments with the laboratories, and they found that all the heavy metals that are part of the whole geoengineering, aluminum and strontium, some of the other heavy metals, They also discovered that there were nanoparticles and pathogens.
So, yeah, I mean, it looks like they're poisoning our atmosphere big time.
And then they also discovered that in 2019, Fauci has documents that were leaked just recently.
And they are saying that, you know, as an alternative to vaccines, you do the aerosol and they can get people that way, vaccinated.
So that was the plan from 2019. And then, of course, 2019 late was also when they, you know, started the COVID-19.
Especially in China when they were dropping over because they turned the 5G juice up.
But anyway, yeah, this looks like the latest barrage of an assault on humanity.
And it's got chemicals in it.
It smells.
It causes staining of the eyes and skin.
Some people were throwing up.
Some people could not sleep.
Flu-like symptoms, actually.
So, yeah, they're just taking it a step further because they know that more and more people are waking up and realizing all the crimes against humanity, children, they've been committing forever.
And I think they're speeding up the whole weapons of mass destruction, genocide against the human race.
They're planning to replace humans.
They start with, you know, all the...
Migration crisis that they manufactured to replace the Goyam Christian white majority middle class populations of the West and then they get rid of all the invaders in foreign lands and go with the AI robotics because that is the plan.
So one of the things that I'm noticing is that The fog, the toxic fog, is a way, like you said, of putting nanotechnology with nanoparticles into the human beings who have not been injected with the bioweapons disguised as vaccines because the plan is to be able to control the human population through artificial intelligence
using the Internet of Things and creating this It's a worldwide web of human beings that will not only be controlled by 5G, which is already old, they've got the 6G and the 7G already, but through Starlink and through the satellites.
So they will be able to control the thoughts in your mind, like Noah Harari was saying, in the future people won't even have to vote because they'll just basically know who you vote for and who you're thinking about, and then they'll be able to use the nanotech to Put thoughts into your brain.
People think this is conspiracy, but this is actually fact.
There's papers and patents on this stuff that they can control your way of thinking.
And with what recently happened with the New Year's Day terrorist attacks using veterans, and veterans are usually injected and experimented on because once you sign on the dotted line, the government owns you and they can pretty much do whatever they want.
They both came from Fort Bragg, which is a place known for psyops and training people in psyops and false flags.
So it's very possible that these two stooges were used to create this fear and also to test out this new system of being able to use AI to control these Terrorists, yeah.
I mean, that's why the guy from MSN was saying that these military vets or military personnel are the terrorists.
So in a way, the guy is right.
Russell, you were going to comment?
Also, the last guy that tried to supposedly assassinate Trump was working out of Fort Bragg.
So there's another one.
And who knows how many others there are.
But it is also interesting to know how they...
Rolled the CIA agent Sean Ryan out to counter the narrative of the drones by claiming it was the Chinese doing this off the Atlantic to kind of decoy away from probably what is really happening.
And so we're going to be kind of— Yeah, what did you think about that?
I think we're really going to be dealing with narratives.
I mean, it's really picking up.
And you can just tell it.
You can tell because they're rolling more and more of these characters out that are kind of unfamiliar to most people or where the people maybe that have our worldview somewhat are favorable towards.
And controlled opposition.
Controlled opposition is coming out big time, funded by the Jewish oligarchs.
You know, enabled by Facebook and TikTok are going to open up all those venues to them.
So we're going to be deluged with a whole new type of propaganda that people really aren't aware of.
Sean Ryan is a good example.
He's definitely an intelligent service guy.
And, you know, another thing that really gets me is that the guy in Vegas, I believe that he actually is like a whistleblower because he had access.
He was a Green Beret for 19 years.
I think he was still active duty also.
And for his expertise, not only was ordinances blowing up and shit like that, and then he had little elementary stuff in the back of his Tesla truck, but he actually I believe,
was a whistleblower that was trying to get information on withheld technology, like the anti-gravity technology that they picked up and reverse engineered with UFO crashes and stuff like that.
He had a lot of information, and he was trying to push that out.
And then they used these other guys, Sean Ryan and the rest of those guys that are, you know, intel, to Kind of like, you know, move away from that.
But I think that they killed him.
And the quote, the story that, you know, he died, you know, after the bomb went off.
I mean, it's totally, everything they're saying is wrong.
You know, everything is completely false.
It's huge anomalies all over the place.
One of the things that I want to point out to the audience is that the three people that are on this panel now, and actually even when Ryan was on this panel, all of us are outside of the United States of America.
So the perspective that you're getting during this show is one of...
People watching what's happening in the United States of Israel through the looking glass.
And our perspective is from the Czech Republic, from Bali, and from the former Soviet Union near the border with Russia, Turkey, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.
And I think what's important about that is that we don't have that myopic vision that the United Slaves of America have, where They seem to be under this spell that in just a couple of days, Donald Trump is going to get in, and with the snap of a finger, everything is going to be great again.
Do you guys notice that, or am I alone in that perspective?
Because it seems to me, like you were saying, Joaquim, the controlled opposition...
If you see the headlines of X-22 and you hear Sean from SGT Report, boy, everything seems like it's going to be completely rosy once Trump gets in.
And people are really believing that.
Russ, am I wrong or am I right?
They shouldn't count their eggs before they hatch because they're wrong.
Yes, they're wrong.
They probably have some hope.
I think that there's some lately, maybe in the last few weeks, there's been a little bit of tailing off.
Of the Trump-tard, for instance, you can kind of tell in the stock market, the Trump-tard rally kind of ended around New Year's and the markets are acting poorly.
The bond market's trading off, yields are going higher.
There's a lot of deterioration in the economy.
There's a lot of underlying things that Trump has no control of.
And even the thing, you know, maybe you'll get a few claps, but...
Annex in Greenland.
I don't know.
Maybe Greenland's a smart move.
I'm not necessarily going to criticize like that, but they're kind of distractions.
They seem like big distractions, right?
What does Greenland have to do with the fact that the United States is very close to getting its ass kicked by Russia, China, and Iran?
I just had a guest on the show that's inside Russia, and he's also a veteran American, and he assures me that the Russians are taking care of business.
They've got some serious weaponry that they haven't even shown the world yet.
Well, the Greenland is sort of this neo-imperialism that he wants to kind of run with, and getting the Panama Canal back, because it just sounds kind of like Caesarism that he's trying to...
Betray himself as, when in reality, it's a very weak country.
It's gutted out.
I don't know if Caesar can bring this country back or not.
Certainly a man can't do it.
And then he's also threatening more.
He came out with a speech the other day saying, if you don't release the hostages, all hell is going to break loose on Gaza.
Well, maybe they'll release the hostages.
So that gives him a little momentum.
Watch for that one.
Or, since Hamas is actually controlled by Israel, they're not independent, whatever Israel wants to do, maybe they won't release the hostages and that'll be an excuse to span the war for Iran.
So that will be an important one to watch for Trump, whether threats like that work.
Because if it does work and they release the hostages, Israeli hostages, that'll be a big victory for Trump.
Joaquin, how does Trump plan on getting the Panama Canal back?
Don't the Chinese own that?
Are the Chinese really just going to roll over and say, yeah, sure, here you go?
They own all the ports of the world.
You know, it's pretty incredible how they bought into all that, because that's a real power source.
If you're controlling all the commerce of the world and all the ports, that's pretty amazing.
But yeah, they got ports in America, ports everywhere, including, of course, in Panama.
They're also building a highway across the river there, the canal, that's supposed to also take, and it's Chinese-built investment.
Yeah, they're investing all over the place, and I think that Trump's trying to head them off.
He wants all the Basically, the natural resources under the icy soil of Greenland.
He's just throwing his weight around because that's what he does.
He's a bully.
But yeah, he's setting America up for the big ball.
That's what it's about.
Joaquin, but how is he going to do this?
this like how do you how do you take back the panama canal from china what is he going to do is he going to threaten them or is he going to bribe i don't understand like how do you xi jinping is going to look at him and say no he will not All his threats and stuff are not going to go anywhere.
First of all, he's alienating.
I mean, that's his job.
He's been given the job to alienate America further in a different way from Biden.
Still, alienation, where the multipolar world are going with Russia and China, you know?
And the West is going down.
I mean, you name it.
I mean, in every way, they're going down, whether it's World War III militarily, if it doesn't go nuclear, or even scalar, where there's so much damage.
But they're going to lose.
The West will lose a war against Russia, China, Iran.
No doubt.
We don't have the weapons.
We don't have the weapons development.
We gave all our weapons away to Ukraine that's been wasted.
So we don't stand a chance militarily.
And I don't see Trump not going along with Netanyahu and trying to do the Greater Israel Project there.
So, I mean, he promised his biggest donor, Miriam Adelson, that he was going to get the West Bank.
You know, to make sure that the West Bank was for those settlers to develop that.
And, of course, that's the whole game of getting rid of the Palestinians in Gaza.
They're going to use that as their resource.
So, yeah, I mean, the guy is just, he's the established, chosen battering ram to take down America because America is going to collapse.
Well, the whole global economy is going to collapse.
But America and Europe's economy, we have no manufacturing base.
The industrial giant of Europe was Germany.
They're de-industrialized now.
The whole West is going down.
You know, it's really sad.
Very sad.
Russ, is Joaquin right, or is he just spreading fear porn?
No, that's correct.
I mean, Trump may win some tangent-type victories, such as getting Hamas to release the hostages, a few things like that.
You know, it's kind of like when Hitler overran France and defeated France, and then they had the big rally in Berlin, and what was it, August 1940, and Hitler rode in triumph through the streets of...
Berlin and the huge crowds are out there.
And then fast forward four or five years later and the whole place is in ruins.
So that's the analogy I would use for Trump.
When we come back, I want to talk about the inauguration ceremony, what you guys think about that.
And also the January 6th, he says that on his first day there, he's going to pardon everybody.
What's that going to be all about?
And are the January 6th people going to be kissing his ass or wondering where he's been for the past four years and why he hasn't done anything to help him out until now?
Are there any other things, Russ, that you'd like to talk about that's on Winter Watch when we come back?
Did I catch you off guard again, Russ?
I'm kind of used to Jim's routine, so yeah, it kind of caught me off guard.
Reading articles?
Would you like me to read an article for you?
No, it's okay.
It's okay.
But to answer your question, yeah, he caught me a little off guard.
That's okay.
We're coming in on a break anyway.
But if you guys want me to read articles, I'll go ahead and do that.
But I've just got a little bit of a different approach on the raw deal here.
This is organic, off-the-fly conversations about current events.
I also want to talk about why you guys think the drones and the UFOs have just suddenly disappeared and what you guys think are going to be the next false flags because this is false flag season.
They're going to start hyping up all these polycrisis to keep people in a constant state of fear.
And also, if you think Trump is actually going to make it to the White House, you think they're going to assassinate him before then?
Or is he really the person that the puppet masters want there?
Because if he does actually make it in, it just goes to show that Biden was just a show, that they wanted to put Biden in there so that he could set up the fall.
That then Trump can come in and stick a knife in the U.S. and call it done.
And also so that the people would be so disgusted with the mess that Biden and Kamala Harris left that they would be begging for Donald Trump to come in.
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I am reporting from the former Soviet Union Republic of Georgia where the...
United States of Israel has imposed visa restrictions on about 20 Georgian individuals, including ministers and lawmakers, for quote-unquote undermining democracy in the country, the State Department said on Friday.
What's interesting is they say they, the powers that be in the corrupt...
United States of Israel that the Georgian election was not fair, and yet it was actually deemed fair by the several outlets that actually honored the elections.
So here the United States actually had a stolen election, and now they're putting sanctions.
They have a bill that's going out that's going to put sanctions on the People of Georgia and all that's going to do is end up pushing them towards Russia and they're probably going to end up joining the BRICS which is going to stick another knife in the dollar because the US keeps using the dying dollar as a weapon against countries that don't do as the US says.
And people were thinking that there was going to be some sort of power revolution, but the people in this small Orthodox country realized that it was just the United States sending over their CIA and NGOs with their Black Lives Matter and Antifa in this country.
Trying to somehow make people believe that these people want the whole LGBTQ pedophile agenda in this Orthodox Christian country, or that they somehow want to become like England and have grooming gangs come in to start raping the women and children here, and to be part of the dying euro, which is probably going to collapse before the U.S. dollar does, but these people are not that stupid.
So fortunately, you don't hear about the protests anymore because, well, that was just a ruse.
But what you are seeing now is that the U.S. government is trying to once again bully the people of other countries into doing what they say.
I want to read something from a CIA. This is what he said about his time in the CIA, and this is a quote.
He said, I was a very minor missionary, actually a heretic, but I toiled wholeheartedly in the vineyards because it was fun, fun, fun.
Where else could a red-blooded American boy lie, kill, and cheat, steal, deceive, rape, and pillage with the sanction and blessing of the All Highest?
So this was a CIA operative reporting.
On his job as CIA. So yeah, that's the thing.
You join the CIA and you can rape, steal, deceive, pillage, and it's all sanctioned and paid for by the U.S. taxpayers.
Russ, let's get to what's going on in the Winter Watch, which is your website.
We had a gap on the whole New Orleans thing because it kind of happened the morning the last time we were on, so we weren't able to really address it at that time.
But this is an example of a kosher right stage deception, in my opinion.
And the proof of it is I have a little piece called Noticing the Reporter Given Exclusive Access to NOLA Stage Terrace Department.
And so what a quinky-dink I write.
The reporter who was dropped off at the gunman's home in New Orleans, just right after it happened, they just took down the evidence banners and let her walk in and go around his apartment, say stupid things, make him look like a crazy conspiracy theorist.
This is the New York Post.
So they've had a New York Post reporter, kind of hitherto unknown, who just so happened to be a Jew who served in the Israeli military.
So I'll just add that to the mix.
Of course.
Let me also make a housekeeping announcement, because I'm kind of noted, on my side, There's no kosher rights stuff going on here.
And I'm noticing more and more people are sort of gravitating to my side.
I'm getting a little bit of a kick in what I would call good commentators.
And I'm not going to let the Hasbro types in.
So I have to run a fairly strict system.
And my system has what is called a whitelist.
It's the program that I use to control my comments.
And the problem is many of you, and I'm saying this because I know a lot of people watch the show.
Many of you are coming onto the site and registering as anonymous.
When you register as anonymous, the way the program works is I have to okay your comments.
Well, yesterday I was traveling back to Europe, so I was offline all day.
I was sleeping a lot of the day.
And I'm not banning my computer.
I'm not obsessed with the comments.
I'm not sitting around constantly.
Monitoring things.
So a lot of you are making some really good comments and aren't getting up on the site.
What you got to do is you got to just register under an avatar your name or whatever and then I approve you one time and I put you on to the white list and you're good to go.
I don't have to okay your comments.
I have a lot of people that I trust to make good comments.
You're coming in as anonymous.
Make the job easier for me because I'm just a one-man operation.
And then maybe we can become more of an oasis, a non-kosher rite oasis as a result.
So just make that public service announcement.
I just want to add something to that, Russ.
There's a lot of people out there that are living in fear, and we've been talking about the cowardice and the people worried about getting 40 pizzas or Chinese food delivered to their home.
Realize, even if you have a VPN, Artificial intelligence and the NSA, they can know exactly who you are and where you're leaving these comments from.
So just because you think you're hiding behind some fake name and avatar doesn't mean that you may not get a knock on the door from the pizza delivery guy or the cream of some young guy from the local Chinese restaurant.
So a lot of people, they actually believe.
And that's why they're afraid of leaving their comments.
So, yeah, we're living...
If you want to leave your comments under Avatar, I don't care.
I'm not making you to put your real name down.
I'm not going that far.
But if you want to get quick comments in, you've got to get away from this anonymous stuff.
But your point is...
Even if you think you're anonymous, you're not anonymous.
That's the whole point that I'm making.
When I was living in China, they knew that VPN doesn't really work.
I mean, there were people who were, it's illegal to go on Google, it's illegal to go on Facebook, it's illegal to watch porn in China.
And even with the VPN, I knew people that got knocks on their door at 3 o'clock in the morning from the Chinese police.
Because they were on websites that they weren't supposed to be on.
What they want people to do, they're trying to bleed the truther movement away by this kosher right strategy and getting you to go in on...
And they're paying people money for it.
They're paying these influences a lot of money.
So they're going to try to starve the so-called anti-Semitic right wing.
That's what they're trying to do.
And I'll even label it as that, anti-Semitic.
Because the anti-Semitism is the key to saving humanity.
That's my actual opinion.
And I don't apologize for it.
It's a misnomer, too, because that's the whole thing.
It's such a shame.
The real anti-Semites are the Jews that are bombing.
The real Semites that live in Palestine, in Syria, in Lebanon.
It's just, again, it's all inversion.
Turn everything around.
They brainwash people with the spell casting.
And it's just ignorance.
There's a preponderance of ignorance that's really killing people all over the world and creating this fear, this needless cowardice.
Joaquin, please step in.
Well, they have lied.
They've rewritten history.
I mean, they keep technology from us.
I mean...
They've maintained control, and yeah, we're talking the Jews.
They are the power structure of the earth.
They have a few tokens that are not Jews in there, but primarily it's run by the Jews.
So yeah, we've got to get this truth out.
They're going to try and shut us all down, because we are threats to them, and they don't want...
Followers coming over to our side, they want to have only brainwashed types, leaving all the bullshit.
Are you noticing an uptick in the people that are reading your articles as well, Joaquin?
Like Russ says, he's noticing that there's an uptick in people going to his website, which is winterwatch.org.net or.com?
.net.
And to clarify, people are coming and making better quality comments.
That's what I'm saying.
There's a realization going on that we're being gamed.
So they're looking for Oasis's to make comments.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not saying I'm getting a huge search.
I've also noticed the same thing, Russ, on my BitChute and Rumble channels.
The comments that are being left are a lot more...
Thought-provoking, a lot more informative.
And I've taken your advice, the trolls that show up there, just to leave, like, stupid comments.
And when I say stupid comments, I mean, I don't mind criticism.
But if you're just going to get in there and just throw F-bombs or say how retarded or stupid me or Russ or Joaquim or anybody is, I mean, duly noted.
I mean, tell me something I don't know, you know?
Okay, so I'm a retard.
But how does that fit into...
Improving our knowledge.
You know what I'm saying?
If all you're going to do is just come in and call me and Russ and Karpin, retards.
Okay.
First step is get rid of the rift.
First step is get rid of the rift raft.
That's exactly it.
You did it right.
Don't let the rift raft...
Yeah, thanks for...
Because, you know, they're paying these rift rafts, by the way.
Yeah, I've noticed that everything's improved since then.
Of course, they get really pissed off when I block them.
And this is interesting, too, by the way, just so you know, Russ.
It turns out that people that I block, the riffraff that you say, they end up going on other people's channels and telling people what a retard I am on other people's channels in the comments section.
And so I've had other people tell me that they...
Subscribe to my channel because they were curious about the comments that they left.
They were like, okay.
It's called the Streisand effect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm like, oh man, keep going.
Keep leaving comments all over the place about what a retard I am.
And then people come in and they're like, wow.
I mean, what really has to happen is you and I, all of us, I don't know if Joaquim's on this list yet.
We all need to be put on the ADL bad boy list.
Because that's really a boost.
You really get a boost out of that.
Yeah, the bad goy list.
Yes, absolutely.
I'm pretty sure he's on there, too.
I'm not on there.
I don't follow the comments that come on.
Well, actually, on the governmentrag.com, people write in, and I have to prove it to make sure it's not spam or some shit like that.
The comments are pretty Decent.
So, you know, I pretty much approve all of them that I see.
Once in a while, there'll be somebody...
I had a woman who I did an interview with, and she has a group of other women.
And it was a good interview and all that, but I ended up saying...
I can't remember exactly who...
Oh, I know.
It was...
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The Florida, Rubio.
You know, he's a total Zionist.
Marco Rubio.
Marco Rubio.
Total Zionist idiot.
And so I think I said he's a Jew lover or something like that, you know?
And so she's like, you should apologize for that, you know?
And it's like...
Get off it.
All these people, they're Zionists and pro-Israel.
I'm going to slam Israel.
That's where the truth is.
You've got to be politically correct.
You're not supposed to say Jew lover like that.
People like that are not welcome in my oasis.
In my oasis, they're not welcome.
She threatened not to even do something.
So I just wrote her off.
I took her off my list, you know.
Russ, I just had...
I don't know if you've heard of Gert Jan Zwickler.
Have you heard of that guy?
No.
He's in jail.
Apparently...
Well, no, that's...
That is...
Let me see.
That is...
Gurmar Rudolph, who he just received, he was just let out on bail.
I've contacted him to see if he'd like to On the podcast, he was arrested four days after appearing on my podcast and explaining to people as a chemist that he went to the places where apparently they allege these people were gassed to death.
And as a chemist, he said there was no evidence of any gas and also with the wooden doors and lack of chimneys.
And he just had so much evidence to show that this was all propaganda.
They've been harassing him for a long time.
That goes way back.
Of course, the prosecutors are Jewish, so as soon as they heard him on the show, four days later, they sent the New York police, which are, of course, controlled by the Fraternal Order of Police, which are Freemasons, which is Judaism for the Goy.
They arrested him.
They held him without bail for a couple of weeks.
Now they finally released him.
But I had Gurjan Swigler, who used to appear on Jim Fetzer's show, but apparently this was before Jim Fetzer realized what we had been telling Jim Fetzer, that Trump is a Trojan Trump.
He's a Trojan horse.
And so apparently he did not go back on Jim Fetzer's show ever since.
And he took a break from being on shows for almost two years.
But he came on my show, and within the first 15 minutes, he started talking about the Jews.
And then I received emails from subscribers and patrons of the show who donate to the show, and they chastised me for not scolding him and telling him not to speak ill of the Jews.
Mind you, these are Christians, and these are Christian white people who are...
I'm not going to listen to your show anymore, and I'm not going to donate to your show anymore, and I'm unsubscribing.
What's really weird about that, and what shows me actually, is that the reason why the Jews have been able to carry on this genocide for thousands of years is because they're a cult.
They're a tribe.
They're united.
And Roseanne Barr even admitted that even the worst of the Jews, the Jews will defend them, and they'll stand by their side.
Even the worst.
The pedophiles, the murderers, and all that stuff.
Because they have unity.
Whereas the Christians, they don't have that.
And that's why the Christians fail.
Because here I am now being ostracized and chastised by Christians because I have a guest on who speaks freely about the Jews.
I'm not here to censor anybody.
Our worst adversary...
Right now are the kosher right-wingers, and they're being funded and they're being galvanized under Trump.
So as long as Trump has his little minor successes and maybe whatever comes, puts little feathers in his hat, we're going to be dealing with that.
They'll stick with him.
But that won't last, and then our day is going to come.
What's weird about these kosher Christians...
It's that they don't realize about the Talmud.
The Talmud says, and this is what the whole thing is, until the new Messiah comes, they cannot rebuild the third temple.
And the new Messiah will not come until every single last Christian is killed.
So that's why when people are like, oh, it's not all the Jews, realize...
It's not all the Christians either.
But according to the Jews, whether you're a good Christian or a bad Jew or good Jew, whatever, the fact is, every single last Christian, that's why it says it in the Talmud, even the best of non-Jews should all be killed.
That's why the Chabad guy, he said to Benjamin Netanyahu...
They're not to all be killed.
A lot of them are going to be made into slaves.
That's an important distinction.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They have to have 2,800 slaves.
I kind of laugh sarcastically.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, it's just...
But, I mean, the mentality of these kosher Christians, they don't realize they're on the list.
That includes Pam Bondi, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and all these other kosher Christians.
Yeah, it's definitely about enslavement.
I think it's more about enslavement than anything else.
But they're pretty far along in their project.
But the worm is going to turn.
I think our time is coming.
We just got to hang in there.
I hope Jim Fetzer makes it back.
That'd be a shame to lose him.
Yeah, absolutely.
But he didn't sound very good on Truth Verse News.
We were on there with Joaquin Hagopian.
And boy, yeah, when he was reading those...
Those articles, it was a tough go.
He had just had surgery, right?
Was he having respiratory problems?
He was coughing a lot.
But what was the surgery that he had?
Do you know, Joaquin?
Yeah, he has a case of skin cancer.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
But that's a pretty good prognosis, though.
I don't think he's going to die from that, no.
But he is 84. Unless he gets sort of secondary infections and stuff from the treatment and that kind of thing.
So, anyway, we love you, Jim.
Yeah, we do.
So, Joaquin, what's your take on...
2025. It started off quite literally with a bang on the New Year's Day with the terrorism, and then you've got the toxic fog.
What's next?
I mean, I personally have an uneasy feeling like something bad is about to happen, like, real soon.
I've been feeling this the past couple of days.
Well, it's been the vibe on the Internet, alternative Internet, for a long time.
Been expecting some major kind of false flag, a lot of deaths, all that.
I don't know.
I think that probably they're going to let Trump do his inauguration.
I think they certified him, so they're probably going to let him come in.
But I think, yes, I think like everybody else.
That there's going to be some major event that's going to take out a lot of people.
They may draw us into World War III, East versus West.
Once we go there, and of course the economy is going to crash.
Food shortage, it's going to get really messy, really messy.
Yeah, I don't have a lot of optimism.
Russ, do you?
Are you feeling optimistic there in the Czech Republic?
I think high probabilities for an anti-Muslim or anti-Iran to kind of get the momentum going again in the Middle East so they can destroy people.
Right now it's kind of like a soft suicide.
They've got people starving and being exposed to cold in Gaza and nobody seems to care.
So who knows how many.
People that will kill.
It's just surviving a bad winter.
It's not terribly cold there, but it's wet and windy.
And they're all crammed down on the beach.
They don't really have any shelter.
So there's a lot going on on that front.
They're going to switch back into Lebanon and destroy that country before they're over.
Because Hezbollah is actually kind of posturing that they're going to go back into combat.
And then that leaves Iran, so they have to have some catalysts to get the dumb shits and the kosher right galvanized as well.
I had a guest on who was telling me that what's going on in Syria is that the Israelis don't have enough of a force to fight off the terrorists that are there.
And the terrorists that are there were thinking that they were going to be getting help from the Russians.
But the Russians said, no, we're leaving.
We're gone.
And now those terrorists are being attacked by the Israelis.
So now the terrorists are now all uniting against the Israelis.
And I think a trap was set for them because the Russians were like, OK, you want this place?
Go ahead.
Take it.
But now they're going to have to fight off all these terrorists that are going to be coming in from all over the place.
And Israel is going to need the United States to step in.
And that's when, like Joaquin is saying, all this anti-Muslim stuff is going to have to inspire the US to do what they did during 9-11 and go fight a war in Iraq.
And it wasn't even the Iraqis.
And just like they do a false flag in the U.S., they're going to blame it on the Syrians or they're going to blame it on the Palestinians or they're going to blame it on the Iranians.
And all those magatards are going to be like, yeah, let's go get them.
Let's go get them.
They're going to send them in.
Because remember, Israel without the United States is nothing.
So they're just using the U.S. taxpayers and the U.S. blood and treasure.
And until the Americans wake up, they're just patsies.
The thing that Israel has going for them is their asymmetric warfare, and I think they could collapse Iran.
I think they've got a lot of infiltrators, so-called natives, fellow countrymen, infiltrated into Iran and kind of do a version of what happened in Syria.
And there's a... Rainy Endeavor is not very popular.
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Hi, you're listening to The Ordeal with your guest host, the Maverick artist Victor Hugo, sitting in for Jim Fetzer with Joaquin Hagopian and Russell Winter on Revolution Radio.
Russ Winter, yes, you wanted to add something.
Yeah, something about Iran, a little different, a little new information on Iran.
Their currency has completely collapsed.
It's like Weimar Republic type stuff.
Iran is in really big difficulty right now, and I think that they're going to go down, and that will open the way for the Zionist enslavement of the Middle East.
Now, that doesn't mean the fighting is going to end, because people will always fight against these tyrant Zionists, but they'll be on their back feet.
Probably the United States will be deployed for all kinds of anti-insurgency activity.
Probably lose a lot of Americans in the process.
But it looks very, very bad prognosis for the whole Middle East.
And I would suggest probably more refugees fleeing around the world, probably from Iran, Iraq, places like that.
The reason why I respectfully disagree with that is because Iran is necessary for China and Russia.
And since Iran is part of the BRICS, China and Russia will not allow that to happen.
And so they will support Iran.
They'll support Iran in exchange for the fuel that Iran has and for the safe passage.
So China needs Iran and Russia needs Iran.
If they didn't need Iran, then I would agree with you.
But they're going to...
The United States, and also Iran, has too many sleeper cells inside of the United States, thanks to Alejandro Mayorkas.
And the moment that the United States even thinks of going into Iran, the Chinese, the Iranian...
I don't think they'll go into Iran.
I think that Iran's just going to collapse, similar to Syria, because they've been infiltrated.
They've got these...
I got it pretty much first-hand, because I'll just disclose that my son is married to an Iranian, has a very big extended Iranian family, and I got a lot of information from them over the holidays, speaking to them.
And a lot of them are kind of anti-regime, to be honest with you.
They don't really like the regime, and I kind of told them, you better be careful what you wish for.
One of them was showing me the currency on his cell phone.
I forget what the currency is called.
It's $82,000 on the dollar.
They have no currency.
You can't conduct an economy without a currency.
It is really bad.
The chart is just like that.
Unless Russia can come in and prop up the currency, which I don't think they can do, the people are in very, very bad shape.
They'll fold their tents.
That's what's going to happen.
The intel I got was very bad.
How are the people surviving over there?
Well, the poor people don't.
They have extended families, so they help each other out.
They're a clan.
That's what's good about Iran.
They're very family-oriented, so they'll help different people in the family out.
But typically somebody has some land or they have some gold or Bitcoin has gotten really big over there.
There's people with Bitcoin.
So the lucky ones will help members of their family out.
That's kind of how people survive.
The government is kind of despised.
What is it about the government that the people despise?
Corruption and incompetence mostly kind of centers around that.
Like I say, it's not information I wanted to hear, but I had to listen to these people because they are Iranian, and then there's a lot of Iranian friends and family still there.
And it's kind of tyrannical.
So it's unfortunate that that's the bulwark against Zionism in the Middle East, because when they go, it's not going to be pretty, because they do provide some stability.
So what's going to fill the void?
Is it going to be the Jews that are going to fill the void in Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq?
It doesn't make any sense.
There's not enough Jews to live there.
Zionist enslavement of the whole region, you know, the greater Israel.
But they will get resistance, and they'll be constantly fought against.
They don't have the military to take all that territory.
They can't do that.
They don't have a large enough military.
I don't think so.
I mean...
I'm sorry to hear that, though, about internally, Iran is really hurting.
I was not aware of that.
I knew that their economy was somewhat shaky because they have been sanctioned forever like some of the other ones, too.
But I didn't know they were that bad off.
I just don't think that...
You know, if Israel gets aggressive and they go, and of course, Trump's going to go right along with them.
He's already given them permission to start bombing to try and get to the nuclear sites.
But I don't see Russia just standing by if Iran gets attacked.
I don't think they're going to stay out of it.
With Syria, it was a different matter.
But I don't think with Iran, they're too tight at the hip.
And China, too.
So, I think it's going to be an east-west Armageddon.
That's what I think.
And I don't think Turkey's going to stand by it.
Turkey's worthless.
They're unbelievably bad.
I'm disgusted with them.
Whichever way the wind blows, you know?
Yeah, and Egypt too.
I mean...
I'm really kind of...
I'm disappointed in the Muslim world.
We're not getting together and doing something.
We only got the Yemen people and we got the Hezbollah and, of course, Gaza.
They're the only ones.
You know, Iran indirectly, but, you know, no one's really stepping in.
I really thought that they would because Israel needs to be destroyed.
I don't want to see the country go, but somebody needs to stop them.
Because they're going to blow up the whole world.
People are saying that Egypt is next on the list, that Israel is going to invade Egypt.
That sounds ridiculous to me.
You think Egypt is going to allow that to happen?
They already controlled Egypt because Sisi is essentially a crypto-Jew.
So we're getting into this whole crypto-Jew fellow-countryman routine that Israel is so good at.
They're not very good at fighting on the ground.
They're not good soldiers.
I mean, Hamas has shown that, and Hezbollah has shown that.
It's not like they're, I call them the Italians in World War II. So, Hakeem's right.
They can't really go out and fight.
The only way they can do it is subversion and getting these governments to collapse.
And then what comes out of that, God knows what.
Probably a lot of chaos.
They'll be stuck.
I mean, they're stuck in Syria, basically.
That's a no-win for them.
Maybe.
What do you mean?
There's so many different factions in Syria.
I mean, you've got the Kurds that America always backed and took their oil.
And then you've got the faction that's taken over.
I don't know.
And then there's other groups, too.
There's different factions.
Jihadists in Syria.
And there's no unity.
So I think that's a no-win for everybody.
There's nobody there.
It's another failed state like Libya.
Yeah, that's what's interesting in speaking to a guest from inside Russia.
He said that the Russians just said, okay, we're gone.
And now the people who took over thought that the Russians were going to be there to protect them.
But no.
The Russians are like, no, we're going to go ahead and leave.
So now...
Yeah, because the Syrians wouldn't fight for themselves.
So why would Russia support that?
That's what they said.
And the same thing could happen with Iran.
That's what I'm kind of warning.
Yeah, supposedly what happened was that the Jews, of course the money printers with their Babylonian magic trick, went in there and paid off the generals in the Syrian military.
And the generals told their.
And fifty dollars a month to fight in the military, whereas the terrorists, which are financed by Israel and by the central bankers, the Jews, they were getting paid twelve hundred dollars which are financed by Israel and by the central bankers, the Jews, So these guys were like, well, forget it.
We're not going to be risking our lives for 50 bucks.
And so they just left.
But yeah, that's how they wage.
I think that's what happened.
I think that's what happened, but plus they've already infiltrated fellow countrymen into the Syrian military and government to fold their tents at the precise moment.
And they'll rerun that drill elsewhere, including the United States, I think.
Yeah, because the number of military that was in Syria, and apparently they were well-trained, the number of...
Israeli, the IDF that went in there, they were outnumbered.
So they couldn't have won that unless they actually had the military stand down with bribes.
Yeah, the subversion angle is really the key to understanding Israel.
Because the only thing they really know how to do is subversion and slaughter civilians.
That's about it.
That's their strategy.
Terror on civilians.
What else can you tell us about Iran that's not being said in the fake news media?
Because everything that you're telling me is news to me.
That's about it.
It was just kind of like a universal.
And these people don't hate their country.
They wish the best for it.
They've got people back there still.
There's a group of Iranians that have kind of come to America, done pretty well.
They're pretty good citizens.
Pretty successful businessmen.
But they all have family back in Iran.
They all do.
You know, it's just, they're clans.
They're big extended families and clans.
So they're concerned about what happens there.
Not like they don't care.
Sometimes I wonder about Americans, but Iranians aren't that way.
And so I... Don't know what comes out of all that if the government collapses.
But a lot of them want to see this government go.
What will it be replaced with?
Maybe not what they wish for.
Yeah, when you told them...
One of them said, well, maybe the son of the Shaw can come back.
Well, that's an American puppet.
Stuff like that.
I mean, that's what I was challenging them.
What are the alternatives?
Better be careful what you wish for.
What are the alternatives?
And they're looking at me and said, you know, 10,000% inflation.
How's that?
Good.
You know, inflation is really a powerful economic tool to just really get everybody in chaos and against any government.
The United States better watch out for it, too.
Oh, it's coming in America.
Hyperinflation.
By the way, what do you think is going to be the reaction of the MAGA-tards and the Q-tards when they realize that Trump is not going to be able to keep the promises that he made?
You think they'll go against Trump, or they're going to go over the cliff with him like lemmings?
I think a lot of them are going to go against him, and we need to continue to be voices to try to work.
Bring those people over in a forgiving way.
Just because somebody's a MAGA-tard or Trump-tard, you don't need to remind them once they change their mind.
That's kind of the main point I would make.
Like Jim.
Yeah, we did a pretty good job getting Jim over.
We need to keep reminding Jim.
We need to be kind of forgiving with everybody.
It switches over to the non-kosher view.
But then, like you said, to the Iranians...
At what point do we stop pounding on them?
I guess that's the question.
Well, just like you said with the Iranians, be careful what you wish for.
If we get rid of Trump, then what's next and who's next?
Right.
Right.
We have to think about these things.
Because, I mean, the opinion of the Magatars, and even like Jim, Was the lesser of two evils.
And absolutely, Kamala Harris was just totally despicable.
So now we've got Trump.
So if Trump turns out to be what we fear he is, then what happens next?
J.D. Vance?
He's a total puppet of Peter Thiel.
And Peter Thiel will be running the show.
That's a good dose of reality there, Victor, I gotta admit.
Musk seems to be running the show to a great extent right now.
Yeah, and do you trust Elon Musk?
No way.
Kosher right, all the way.
Kosher right.
Kosher right wing.
Yeah.
And don't you guys find it odd that he had Dogecoin years before and now there's the Doge, the Department of What is it?
Government efficiency?
Doesn't that seem kind of odd?
And he had Dogecoin.
That's his thing.
They plot things way in advance, and he's one of the insiders.
Yeah, very sketchy.
Very sketchy guy.
You know, he'll give you voice but no reach.
I mean, that's the dilemma that we're stuck in.
So we have to be like tiny little oasises.
By the way, this week I experienced a shutdown.
You remember, Joaquin, I couldn't get on with the show, Truth vs.
News.
I'm wondering what's going to happen when they shut down the internet because that's going to be coming and the electric is going to be shut down too.
For example, Russia and China, they have electromagnetic pulse weapons that'll shut down the internet and shut down all electric.
That's going to be really incredible because we won't be able to communicate anymore.
Nobody's going to know what's going on anywhere.
We'll be totally out of the loop.
Are you guys ready for that?
No.
No.
I mean, Russians are so advanced with their electronic warfare, and that's where the wars are fought now, on electronics.
Everything's electronics now.
So, yeah, I mean, it's going to be...
There's going to be a while where we're going to be shut down.
They say 10 days, but I don't think so.
I think it's going to be longer.
Yeah, I'm getting used to that because over here they have power outages.
Sometimes the water goes out.
So the thing is, like, if you're stuck in an elevator, God knows how long you're going to be stuck in an elevator, especially if you're claustrophobic.
And then everything pretty much is run through computers nowadays from the gas stations if you want to fill up with gas.
So I don't think people are really understanding what this entails if they decide to do that.
In warfare.
Because I don't think it's going to be nuclear.
I think there may be like a dirty bomb at a stadium or something like that to instill fear in people.
But once they really want to shut a country down, they'll get an EMP. And they can release this through satellites now.
And that'll send everybody back into the Stone Ages.
And people are going to panic, man.
I'll tell you, I was kind of in a panic.
And that was just a couple hours.
That's trying to get online, yeah.
Yeah.
So we've really become used to this.
Before we close up, what do you guys think is going on in California with the wildfires over there?
Have you heard about that?
I haven't checked into it.
They get out of them every year.
Crazy.
Yeah, it's a bad state.
Well, just as I'm talking about the internet going down.
Ross Winter's screen has frozen.
Joaquin Hagopian's screen has frozen.
Really?
The ADL must have been listening to us and now they're shutting us down.
Yeah, you guys are frozen.
Really?
I don't see anybody frozen.
All three of us.
We're live and going.
Okay.
Well, you're coming in all...
Garbled and garbled up.
Mostly it's you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a Jew messing with the signal over here.
We've got another five minutes left on the show and they don't want us talking about the California fires.
That makes me a bit suspicious.
Are you guys there?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, let me hear you guys speak then.
We can't see your faces moving, but we can hear your voices.
So give me your take on California.
Are those directed energy weapons or what?
Well, California has had plenty of time to plan for these fires, and they never seem to be able to handle them.
Now, the other day, I was in Washington, D.C. area, and they had a big storm.
They had a big snowstorm.
And I had to get out.
I had to catch a flight, and I said, there's no way I'm going to get out of here.
Well, we got out on the roads, and I'll be damned if they had, I couldn't, they just had big lines of snow clearing equipment.
They were prepared.
It's like they knew there was going to be a friggin' snowstorm, and they were out dealing with it.
I gotta say, I was pretty darn impressed.
They were also saying that the storm might be too big for them to even certify.
You know, Trump.
But that didn't happen.
That was good that it at least didn't happen.
Somehow I made it to the airport for a 10 o'clock p.m.
flight, and I thought I'd get canceled, or I thought I'd be delayed, and I thought I'd be hanging out there all night getting exhausted.
They loaded us on a plane, taxied us around for about an hour and a half, and, you know, got the de-icers out, de-icing the planes.
And I kind of thought, oh, man, he's going to come on and he's going to take us back to the gate and dump us back off.
And then all of a sudden, there they go.
And as I'm flying out, I can see all the trucks down there on the runways clearing everything off, you know, working the scene.
So California takes some lessons from the Washington, D.C. area.
Hey, I didn't know you were in the USA. What's it like over there real quick?
If you can share it with the audience.
I didn't really leave the house much, but I went to IHOP and I haven't been to IHOP in 20 years.
Oh my God, that was good.
IHOP. Yeah, I like IHOP too, man.
Holy cow.
What does one of those meals cost?
That was too much.
20 bucks now?
Yeah, 15 bucks.
That was too much.
And then the advertising.
The advertising is some kind of idyllic.
Like, 40% of the people are black or Asian.
And, I don't know, maybe that's the demographics of the country now.
And then they had, like, mixed families.
And the mixed, you know, non-white people were always kind of wealthy or well-to-do.
Upper middle class had kind of portrayed them that way.
And then Shaq O'Neal dominated, like, in about three different ads.
I just kind of looked at that.
And I would say, the next ad comes on, let's see what it is.
And sure enough, the exact same formula over and over again.
And I haven't been around that at all.
So for me, that was kind of a shock.
How about the flight experience?
Is it true that most of the flight attendants are either gay or transgender?
Did you notice a DEI where the pilot's blind, black, and stupid?
What was that all about?
I was flying Lufthansa, so I think they're dealing with a different, different group of people.
What parts of the United States did you go to?
Just Maryland.
That's it.
Did you go to Baltimore?
I heard that place is like super dangerous.
You know, we went up to Baltimore.
I was really surprised.
The harbor area, the inner harbor area is very nice.
It's been redeveloped.
It's kind of funky.
It's got some good taverns down there.
We went into a great hamburger.
I'd rate it pretty high.
I'd say that was a good experience.
Baltimore had that bridge go out earlier in the year, I think, in 2024. Right?
What's that?
Part of a bridge went down.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When that ship hit the pylon and the ship came down.
Yeah.
So what were the people telling you over there in the United States?
Are they happy?
What's your feeling of them?
I mean, I visited with an old friend of mine, son.
I don't know.
It's just kind of...
I don't even want to get into it.
It's family, you know.
I don't want to get into any comments.
It's pretty bad.
I hear the phone ringing in the background.
Is that Jonathan Greenblatt saying that we've got to cut the show off?
We've been saying Jew one too many times.
Yeah, I got to go get it.
I'll see you.
All right.
Thanks, Russ, for joining us.
On this show.
Thank you very much.
Joaquin, it's just you and I for the last couple of minutes.
We just did a show with Ryan Valli prior to this.
So we've been going for almost a long time.
You're a good sport.
He gets really upset.
I don't blame him.
I do too sometimes.
We need more of that.
We need more passion, more action.
Hey, so what time is it over there in Bali where you're at right now?
Four minutes to three o'clock in the morning.
Yeah, I stay up late.
Wow.
Over here where I am?
Near the Russian border, it's almost 11 p.m.
You're coming up on 11. Yeah.
Can you tell the people where they can find your work again, your latest article on the government rag?
Thegovernmentrag.com, theinteldrop.org, and jameshfetzer.org.
Those are the three.
And then I do a Friday Revolution radio show.
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