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Oct. 7, 2024 - Jim Fetzer

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Cynthia Hodges aka "Tina Foster" on the "Paul Is Dead" Controversy!

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	We go. Okay.
	Hi, this is Gary King.
	We've got a special guest today.
	We've got Tina Foster, also known as Cynthia Hodges, or The Other Way Around.
	And she's written a book, which I happen to have.
	It's called Plastic Macca, The Secret Death and Replacement of Macca.
	Beatle Paul McCartney.
	Now, there's been quite a few shows, and she's been on many, many shows.
	So this is what we're going to try to do a little differently, where we're going to make it as elementary as possible for people that may not be as up to speed on the Beatles.
	I mean, I'm a Beatle expert.
	I listen to it on my service radio going down the road.
	I teach music for a living, so I've taught thousands, you know, hundreds of Beatles songs.
	So I know my stuff, but not everybody does.
	And it's a subject that some people have a hard time dealing with, though it seems that it's becoming more and more acceptable.
	At one time, it was a cause for outrage, but now it seems as though people are starting to say, you know what, might be something to that.
	And I tell my students, and they actually call them fall now.
	So, there we go.
	Alright, so Cynthia, go ahead.
	We're going to turn the show over to you and see what we can do.
	Okay, well, I am also known as Tina Foster.
	That was my pen name.
	So, I wrote Plastic Macca, The Splitting Image, and The Devil in His Heart using Tina Foster as my pen name.
	But my real name is Cynthia F. Hodges, J-D-L-L-M-M-A. And I've written a number of books under that.
	Well, it's not a pen name under my real name.
	So, I got involved in the Paul is Dead conspiracy theory back in 2008, but I have been a Beatles fan since high school.
	And I always thought that there was something a little bit weird with Paul McCartney.
	What happened to him?
	Why did his looks change?
	Why did the music change?
	But I wasn't thinking, oh, the powers that be are killing and replacing people to further the New World Order agenda.
	Not at that point. That didn't come until much later.
	So There was always that niggling in the back of my head.
	There's something going on.
	But then in 2008, I was getting an advanced law degree.
	And I found a link.
	They were talking about the Paul McCartney is dead conspiracy theory.
	And I thought, well, I'll just take a gander and, you know, look into it for a minute.
	It'll be a fun little...
	Sidelined or diversion.
	And then here I am, 16 or however many years later, still talking about it because I fell down that rabbit hole big time.
	And basically it became an all-consuming interest for me.
	Back then, like you said, Gary, people were not too open to the idea, I think because it threatens their paradigm and some people find that very scary.
	Some people are still afraid of talking about the JFK assassination and the possibility that maybe something more was going on than just the crazy lone gunman Lee Harvey Oswald story.
	Which I haven't believed for probably 30 years.
	Over the years, as I've done more research into PID, the Paul is Dead Conspiracy Theory, that's the short name for it, more and more has been unveiled.
	After a couple of years of researching it, I did realize that there was a larger agenda behind it, that Paul wasn't exactly what the powers that be wanted, so they just replaced him with a lookalike who would further their agenda.
	So now that's become more fleshed out over time, like who was behind it and why.
	And I ended up writing Plastic Macca in 2019.
	I have learned some more since I wrote it, but most of my research is in that book.
	So that'll give a very good...
	I wouldn't even say overview.
	I mean, it does a deep dive into Paul is Dead.
	It may not have every single little fact that's come out on Paul is Dead that's ever been uncovered, but it has...
	A great deal of the information in it.
	Yeah, and I've never seen a book with more footnotes in my entire life.
	Every word she says, she's got a footnote where she got it from, so she's not making it up.
	No, see, I felt that with this topic that I had to be scholarly and I had to really document the information because it's such a hard sell for so many people.
	I didn't want people to think, oh, I'm just making stuff up.
	And I also have a lot of respect for my reader that I want to present a good case.
	I mean, I'm also a lawyer, so we document everything or else it's plagiarism or, you know.
	So it's probably overkill with the footnotes.
	And since then, I've toned it down a bit because the average reader doesn't care about every single thing being documented.
	It's enough just to have a bibliography.
	But, again, this was written five years ago, so I've adjusted my style a little bit since then.
	So, I also have a blog, plasticmaca.blogspot.com, that has a lot of the research on it.
	So, I've put together quite a lot of information about Paul McCartney and And the Beatles, because to me, it's a big deal.
	It's a big deal when people are murdered and replaced with lookalikes, which again has become more of an accepted idea over the years.
	A lot of people talk about the Biden double and even Putin doubles or Whoever else is coming out now, but for some reason, Paul McCartney, I guess because he was so beloved by so many people that they just don't want to accept that the lovable mop-top beetle Paul Died and was replaced.
	Even though if you look into the history of doubles and imposters, like I did with the splitting image, you're going to be hard-pressed to find a double with so many differences.
	Most doubles are better than Fall, and yet he's the one that most people are most resistant to.
	So, do you have any thoughts on that, Gary?
	Why people might be so reluctant to accept that Fall is an imposter?
	The Beatles were a huge part of my life.
	I think I was six years old and I do remember the Ed Sullivan Show vaguely.
	I mean, I was just a little fella. And from then on, I think I started playing guitar when I was 12 and it was because of the Beatles.
	My friend and I, I was John Lennon, he was Paul McCartney, and we actually played like we were one of the Beatles.
	I've known friends that have made Beatles tribute bands, where it's almost like Overkill, where they wear the three button-down shirts that Paul McCartney would wear, or the other Beatles, the Beatles boots and stuff, and they made a lifetime out of, you know, copying the Beatles.
	But not only that, I'm a music teacher, and the songs are just so Fantastically put together if you want to learn how to write a song then you look up the Beatles get the big Beatles score and it's all right there the chord progressions um George Harrison's parts where it was just the perfect thing to put in and I will say this Paul McCartney the real one was one of the best bass players you will ever find listen to Nowhere Man um and not only that one um Twist and Shout.
	The bass line is incredible, and I've learned that.
	I've got my bass right here, and I've got a Hoffner bass over there.
	I've learned these bass lines, and the more and more I do, the more I realize what a genius, you know, I know it's an overused word, but he is a genius, and then later on, the bass lines became more and more lumbering, you know, like do, do, do, eighth notes, and, you know, not that it wasn't a good bass line, but they had all day To perfect it, but it just wasn't the same.
	So that's where I come from.
	And it's just really hard to, you know, to think that that had happened about, like you say, our beloved Beatles, you know.
	I still listen to the, every time I drive into work, I put on the Beatles channel on Cyrus Radio.
	I don't get tired of it.
	I've been accused of being a disinfo agent, of course, by the opposition because they want to discredit anybody who's bringing out information that they don't want exposed.
	So they say that I talk about Paul McCartney as a way to discredit other more serious issues.
	But to me, murdering and replacing them with a lookalike is such a dark agenda.
	And, you know, we're talking about 55 years ago.
	So now we know about the New World Order is pretty far along at this point.
	But back then, they were still trying to sell it, right?
	So pictures sold back 55 years ago.
	And where were we? Actually, even farther back, because we're talking about the end of 1966, basically, when Paul was replaced, so September 1st.
	My window of his replacement is from August 25th to August 28th, 1966.
	That's the window of replacement that I narrowed down.
	So, put yourself back that far in where we were and where was the New World Order and where was the majority of the population.
	So, it's hard to think about what we know now and erase a lot of that and put yourself back there.
	So, they're still trying to...
	Yeah, let me just say this.
	I've done over 300, maybe 350 JFK shows with many different people.
	And what we're talking about, when JFK happened, the population believed every word that came across the mainstream media.
	And I'm a huge fan of Jim Garrison.
	I know his wife personally.
	And it was Jim Garrison that actually cracked the egg To the idea that maybe, you know, everything that's coming across Walter Cronkite's desk may not be the truth.
	Now, that's when we just had the idea that maybe this is not true.
	And so without him, even though we haven't stopped him completely, they would be much further along than we are now.
	So, I mean, Jim Garrison is one of my heroes, so I wanted to say that.
	Right. So when we talk about the Beatles and how with Sergeant Pepper at the beginning of 1967, really everything, everything was flipped on its head.
	So we get the whole counterculture was ramped up big time with the Sergeant Pepper.
	And then you have...
	So the music changed.
	Obviously, Paul changed.
	And they're telling you...
	There's so many clues that they're telling you.
	So if you can't spot it with the physical differences, they're also giving you all sorts of clues from the music and the album art and cryptic references, cryptic remarks from fall.
	Even still, fall jokes about...
	His being a double.
	So for something that's supposedly a joke, which is a really dark thing to joke about, somebody dying and being replaced, like how is that a funny haha joke?
	But that's how they try to spin it.
	So for me, Paul just...
	You know, he was the cute beetle.
	I mean, there's a reason he was called the cute beetle.
	And Paul just doesn't...
	He's just not...
	He's not handsome to me at all.
	And he just...
	He doesn't have the...
	The same...
	The music, too, isn't the same.
	It doesn't... It's not as catchy or it's not as...
	There's something about Paul's music that, you know, has some classical elements, right?
	So, and I love her.
	It's kind of like the classical Spanish guitar is cool in it.
	For No One, Eleanor Rigby, Yesterday, these all sort of have these classical endotones, like he's bringing classical into pop music, which I thought was pretty cool.
	And, um, And then Fall of Assault with Hilter Skelter, which is, like, completely opposite.
	Maybe the first heavy metal song, right?
	And he even said it was purposely degraded.
	It was meant to be the fall of the Roman Empire.
	I mean, that song was definitely a propaganda piece.
	And then you have Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, too, which...
	And people picked up on it back then was a reference to LSD. I think it could also be Lucifer in the Sky with Stars.
	Lucy, you know, Bring on the Lucy, right, about John Lennon's song that came later in the 70s.
	But that's obviously about Lucifer, so...
	Anyway, so we were going to make this a really basic PID show, right, about what are the tells...
	For kindergartners. I'm sorry?
	For kindergartners.
	For kindergartners.
	Okay, well...
	I have one more question.
	One more question before we get going.
	All right. What I noticed after 1966 was the incredible piano playing.
	Alright, now before, I don't remember, I've seen Paul McCartney maybe tinkering around with it, but the over-the-top, almost classically trained piano playing, to me, just happened overnight.
	And I know, as far as all the instruments, the hard instruments are violin and piano.
	And you don't just figure that out overnight.
	So I just wanted to ask you what you thought about that.
	Paul's father played piano.
	I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Paul played piano.
	I don't know the extent to how well he played piano.
	He played guitar and he played drums.
	John Lennon was asked, is Ringo the best drummer in the world?
	He said he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles.
	So I think he was talking about Paul.
	Ouch! That hurt.
	And Paul was also playing sitar and helping George with sitar.
	So I think he was just one of those people who could pick up anything and play it.
	That's what I get from Paul.
	Yeah. So he ended up on bass because, I mean, Stu Sutcliffe was the bassist, and he passed away, and then he just kind of took that.
	But he also played guitar on a lot of songs.
	So, you know, paperback writer.
	There were songs when Paul played everything.
	Like, yesterday was Paul's song, and the other Beatles were not involved at all in that song.
	So that was also another thing for me that was a tell, because I thought initially when I was younger, well, the songs were different because John Lennon and Paul McCartney were collaborating on these songs.
	But then later, their solo songs weren't that good.
	And then I found out, oh, well, Paul was writing the songs himself.
	A lot of the songs were just Paul by himself.
	That doesn't make sense why the later songs of Fall would be like, you know, Wonderful Christmas Time or, you know, just pretty...
	Not up to snuff as far as a Paul McCartney recording.
	I agree. When I'm listening to Sirius Radio, Many, many times when Paul McCartney's stuff comes on, especially with wings, I just can't handle it.
	I just turn it off. It's just not there.
	It doesn't happen. Right.
	So I think they thought that if they convinced everybody it's the same old Paul that we would just accept it, accept him.
	But a lot of people knew it wasn't the same Paul, or they suspected.
	Because in 1969, there was a big...
	Hullaboo about Paul dying and being replaced.
	So people, you know, said he died in a car accident, so they thought it was just an accident and that fall had come in kind of like as a favor to the Beatles.
	I will just keep the band going.
	And there was like no nefarious agenda behind it, which, of course, to me, the whole point Was to further the New World Order agenda.
	I don't think it was an accident.
	Because when I first started researching it, I didn't know.
	I mean, maybe it was just an accident.
	But then you start thinking, well, he false stepped in so quickly.
	So they must have had him in training already.
	He must have been studying.
	It's almost like an understudy that they have prepared and then, oh, we're just going to bust him out at the LA press conference.
	To me, that's the first time we see fall proper.
	So there's been a lot of photo tampering.
	There's been a lot of even some video tampering and some voice.
	They mess with the voices to try to hide an obscure Fall in Paul.
	So we see... Well, I guess we could go to the pictures and I can show people what I mean.
	Maybe we could pause it for a second.
	Okay. As I try to figure out how to do this share.
	Okay, so I did a presentation back in 2017 for Paul is Dead.
	So this is...
	Oh, I think that's cutting some off.
	Sorry, let me go back to smaller.
	Uh-oh. Now you can see the whole thing.
	Here is a comp where you can see Paul and Fall.
	They put a mustache on Fall to try to trick the eye.
	They look different because he has a mustache.
	People were already talking about the Paul replacement back in 1967.
	They just thought it was an accident.
	So here's another one, another comp of Paul from Help, the movie, and then Fall from the Fool on the Hill sequence from Magical Mystery Tour.
	To me, they look very different.
	And so here's another comp.
	This is Paul from I'm not even sure what year that is.
	64 and then fall from the 70s.
	Again, they look very different to me.
	Long jaw. Yeah.
	Yeah, you let your face grow long.
	That's another clue from I am the walrus.
	There you go. And then here is the famous Life magazine cover or the spread talking about the Paul is Dead conspiracy theory because they had a response, right?
	So negating that something had happened to Paul.
	Considering what they did with Lee Harvey Oswald and JFK in Life magazine, I don't know how much I'm going to trust these guys.
	No. Well, if you notice, they don't have any pictures of Paul to actually compare Paul to.
	So they have some masks.
	When we put an eye on the walrus with the masks on, that's helpful.
	So nothing really to do a comparison with.
	Oh, Paul said he's not dead, which is true.
	He's not dead.
	He's just not the same Paul.
	So that was something I talked about in Plastic Macca.
	So, you know, Fall says, well, to the people who want to think of them as rumors, then he's not going to interfere with that fantasy.
	So Fall is basically saying that if you want to think that PID is just a minute, then he's not going to burst your bubble.
	Go ahead and think he's the real Paul if you want.
	So what he said is actually true, but the way he says it, it's like, it's all convoluted, and so...
	He's not lying, though, but it just seems like he's saying something that he's not, I guess.
	So Bettina Kirschbein is a German lady who...
	Thinks that she's Paul's, the real Paul's daughter.
	But unfortunately, when she sued for paternity, she was trying to sue Fall.
	So if her mother, Erica Huber, had had an affair with the real Paul McCartney in Hamburg, You know, in the, like, 59 to 62 timeframe, then, of course, the blood test from fall is not going to match.
	So my cat is in the light.
	Sorry. So, but what she said is that The picture that they put in the file for Paul was not the real Paul McCartney, so the real Paul McCartney had a rounder face, and also the paperwork had been signed by a right-hander when the real Paul was a left-hander.
	So, she is not Paul's daughter, which is true, but she may very well be Paul McCartney's daughter.
	And Paul McCartney had been giving child support up until he passed away, so then Paul didn't feel the need to continue that.
	And then we get to some of the real basic Paul is dead clues, right?
	So, yesterday and today we have Paul in a steamer trunk, I guess that is, which people say is like a lock, it's a I'm thinking David Jones locker, but I'm trying to say it's like a Kauffman, okay?
	So that's one of the real early clues you come across.
	Can I ask a quick question?
	Can you go back?
	What is George wearing?
	Yeah. It's a little odd to me.
	I've always looked at that as, I mean, it's almost like a stocking or something.
	I don't know. I just always wondered what does he have on.
	Yeah, this was the hurriedly put together picture that was supposed to cover up the Butcher album, which I can talk about later.
	I do have it on here because I do think it's an important point.
	So here we have something from Strawberry Fields Forever, which is 1967 when Paul really changed into a completely different person.
	So you can just see, it's almost like, is that really supposed to be Paul McCartney?
	Okay, if you say so.
	But they put on, you know, they put on the brightly colored clothes, they put on the facial hair and the long hair and just kind of as distractors, which doubles will do a lot.
	Or if you're trying to hide your identity, you know, put on a mustache or Try to distract somebody to some article of clothing so they don't pick up on your face as much.
	Anyway, I talk about that in the splitting image.
	He looks like they manipulated his height in that picture.
	Oh, yes. Well, I think that that probably is Fall's true height, and he is taller than Paul was by probably about two and a half inches.
	And we'll see some other pictures down farther that show the height difference with Ringo, Ringo Comps.
	So here is a picture I put together of, this is Paul from Memphis in August 19th, 1966, and then fall outside of EMI Studios in December of 1966, and then Denny Lane on the fire rate.
	So this is I suspect Denny Lane was a fall, at least for a brief period.
	I mean, you get that Penny Lane is in my ears and in my eyes, so maybe a reference to Denny Lane.
	But you can see the difference between Paul and fall, and that's only four minutes.
	That's the most striking difference I've ever seen that Denny Lane photograph right there.
	That's almost sad.
	Yeah. So, you know, we're not talking about comparing Paul from when he was 24 to fall when he was 60.
	We're talking about just a few months, and people don't typically change that much in a few months.
	So... Well, this is just, that's not too important.
	Okay, so then we get to Sergeant Pepper, which was really, wow, here's Fall, introducing the new and improved Beatles, you know, New World Order propaganda machine here.
	So... You know, famously, Aleister Crowley is on there.
	I was wrong about Jane Mansfield on this.
	It's actually Diana Doors, which is interesting.
	And I talk about this in Plastic Macca because Diana Doors in the gold dress, she was in a movie called On the Double, which is about an army officer who was killed and replaced by a lookalike.
	So I think that's why she's on the cover.
	But you can see the original beetles over here are sad.
	You know, beetle mania beetles, like the real beetles.
	Here's the new and improved beetles with their facial hair and brightly colored uniforms.
	So you're supposed to be looking at this and not their faces.
	And also, Paul is suddenly taller.
	So, and Derek Taylor also did admit that this was a grave scene.
	So here we've got the grave.
	We've got the people at the funeral.
	Yeah. And people picked up on this, you know, in the late 60s.
	Here's one of the clues you'll find.
	If you put the mirror on here, it says 1-1-1.
	Nine, he died.
	I think they changed that on later albums, but that could have been purposely planted.
	And then the OPP patch, which was Ontario Provincial Police, had been doctored a little bit like OPD, which is officially pronounced dead.
	And I think, well, Fall was asked about this and he said he didn't know what this OPP stood for, but he did.
	He just, I mean, anyway, I don't want to say he lies, but he can be very misleading.
	And then people would say, oh, that hand is some symbol for our death.
	I don't know. It's just in the PID lore.
	Okay, so there's PID truth and PID fiction.
	There's stuff that's in the legend that isn't true, but it's I'm just kind of talking about all of it.
	So here's another comp, right?
	So Paul from the Help movie.
	And then this looks like Fall is getting ready for Halloween, playing the part of Paul McCartney.
	Does this look convincing to anybody?
	I don't know. Not to me.
	His face is not round at all.
	And Paul McCartney's face went round.
	I mean, look at these eyebrows.
	It's like, okay, Paul did have an arched eyebrow, but not both.
	So they just really overdid it with these, like, clown eyebrows on fall.
	And then, of course, the mustache.
	Oh, it's the mustache.
	That's why he looks different.
	Mm-hmm. Yeah, that must be it.
	That's the ticket. So anyway, so there are a lot of reverse speech clues.
	Supposedly, reverse speech will reveal the truth.
	So John David Oates, I think that's his name.
	I know it's Oates, but he's from Australia and he does a lot of research on reverse speech.
	And he does say that a lot of truth will come out in your reverse speech.
	And so in these songs, you'll have Paul is dead, Paul is bloody, miss him, miss him, miss him.
	I mean, all sorts of death clues for Paul in these songs.
	Some of them are purposely planted, and that's just backmasking, and some of them are actually reverse speech clues.
	So two different things going on there.
	So it was a fake mustache.
	Oh, yes. So if you're familiar with I Am A Phony, who does the Rotten Apples series on Paul is Dead, he does a reversal of the Sgt.
	Pepper reprise. So it's called Apple Star, and it says it was a fake mustache.
	Actually, somebody else reversed that song.
	So you can listen to the raw reversal and sort of the studio-produced reversal.
	But what I don't like about the I Am A Phony stuff is he will plant clues.
	So he planted Worship the Aleister Crowley in this reversal, which I don't like because it discredits Paula's dead research when they put fake phony clues in there.
	I think I was watching it when I was younger, that Tom Schneider asked John Lennon, were y'all leaving clues?
	He said, yes, we were.
	And he said, about what?
	He says, well, about the situation we were in, looking back.
	So John Lennon admitted that they were planning clues.
	So it seems a little odd he admitted that.
	So many clues. So then you have, this is from the Magical Mystery Tour.
	Fall is wearing a black carnation.
	Everybody else has a red carnation.
	And he was asked about it.
	Oh, yeah, this was in Your Mother Should Know.
	So he was asked about it.
	And he's like, oh, well, they ran out of red carnitians.
	But then somebody brings a big bouquet of red carnitians.
	It's like, well, why don't you just take one of those?
	Why do you need a black carnitian?
	Like, it's obviously a death symbol, but, you know, he's just being...
	He's being obscure.
	He's trying to be coy about it, I guess.
	So anyway, here's another creepy image from the Magical Mystery Tour movie.
	And again, Blue Jay Way has reverse speech.
	Paula's dead. Paula's very bloody, which is also in the forward speech.
	Paula's bloody. But this, this is like a weird headless torso.
	What is that?
	Why is it in a Beatles movie?
	It's just creepy. I think I had this comp already.
	I did, yeah. So I Am The Walrus is a pretty famous clue song.
	So they put King Lear at the end.
	So, oh, untimely death.
	Bury my body or whatever it says.
	And it's like, again, why do you have a death illusion at the end of a movie?
	And why so many death illusions?
	It just gets to me weird.
	And then a reverse of that song says Mac is new.
	And then here is this creepy movie called Braverman's Condensed Cream of the Beatles from 1974, which you'd think, okay, there's going to be a little cartoon about the Beatles.
	It'll be a nice little happy Beatles, you know, celebrating the Beatles music.
	And it's like there are death, death images, right?
	So the car, death, the car's being...
	Being chased.
	There's the death scene of the car exploding.
	It's just okay, so I'm going to talk about this movie later.
	But in the revolution number nine, if you listen to it backwards, so it does sound like a fiery car crash.
	The number nine, when they keep saying that, it's in reverse.
	It says, turn me on, dead man.
	And then there is church music, so like something you would hear at a funeral.
	And that reversal is online.
	And then again, here's the comp of Paul from Help, and then Fall from, well, 1967.
	I'm not sure if that's in the Magical Mystery Tour movie, but...
	I mean, look at this.
	Like, Paul is so handsome.
	Look at him. He looks like a movie star.
	And then this, he looks like a rabbit.
	Like, look at those rabbit teeth. How do people think that's the same person?
	Yeah. Actually, you know what?
	There is...
	I put out a video...
	It's actually mind control.
	People are mind control into thinking that they're the same person.
	So you put, okay, Paul McCartney, this is what people knew as Paul McCartney.
	But then they started labeling this as Paul McCartney and then people switched to be, oh, that's Paul McCartney.
	And they're just kind of trained.
	And it's hard to break the programming.
	And actually, for me, it was hard.
	It took me three days of comparing photos to be like, You know, what is the difference exactly?
	What am I looking at here?
	And I'm like, oh, and then I saw it.
	My mother, she looked at one comp.
	She's like, oh, those aren't the same people.
	It took her like one second. But she's an artist, so she has an eye for detail.
	Anyway, so then here's another comp.
	Again, I mean, the facial, the faces are just totally different.
	Look at that. So I know several people have contacted me and they said, oh, they have a younger sister.
	And they ask, are these the same people?
	And I'm like, no. What are you talking about?
	Are you crazy? Because they don't know who the Beatles are.
	They don't care who Paul McCartney is.
	They're just looking at some guys on the screen like, no, they're not the same person.
	So that's why I think there's some element of mind control involved.
	So, in Glass Onion, there's that famous line, the Lawless was Paul, which people think is a big Paul's dad clue.
	And if you so part of my reasoning for why I think Seattle was where it all went down is there's a building called the Arctic building here that has walruses around it.
	So this walrus theme is tied to Seattle.
	And also, um, If you say walrus backwards, it's Sir Law.
	And then you talk about Sir Bernard Law Montgomery, who had a famous double.
	So he was a general in World War II. And there's a movie called I Was Bonte's Double.
	And so we have all of these doubles themes running throughout this, death themes.
	It just gets to be Like more than a coincidence at some point.
	So here's another one of Paul and then Fall in Kenya.
	So like November 1966, Fall went to Kenya with Mal Evans.
	And so Bungaling Bill, the continuing story of Bungalow Bill could actually be code for Bungaling Bill because people call Fall Bill Shepard or Bill Campbell, Billy Shears. It's kind of code for Fall.
	You can also call him Bill or Billy.
	And it might actually be his real name, William.
	I don't know what his real name is.
	Yeah, as far as the coincidences are concerned, or as any of these examples could be a coincidence, but the steady accumulation of these coincidences is not mathematically possible.
	Yeah. There are over 400 Paula's dead clues.
	Yeah. And so, yeah, I mean, when there's smoke, there's fire, right?
	So here's another comp where they try to hide it with the mustache.
	And then Helter Skelter again in reverse.
	He's dead. He's dead.
	I like death so much.
	And then this picture was on the White Album.
	Like, who is this guy, you know?
	So people say, well, that's actually Fall, the imposter, before he became Paul.
	It's possible. He's not...
	Didn't look like him at all.
	No. So the White Album was a double album.
	The music isn't very good on that.
	It really got slammed by the critics when it came out.
	It wasn't very well received.
	And then Yellow Submarine movie has a lot of clues.
	So you have two paws on the submarine.
	And then also there's a scene with the Beatles.
	There's another Beatles band.
	There are two Beatles bands in that movie.
	It's a horrible movie.
	And it's not the Beatles' voices either.
	So they're voice doubles. Okay, so Let It Be had a lot of clues.
	You can see famously this red behind Paul, right?
	So people are like, well, he's the only one with reds.
	That's like blood imagery, which wasn't on this compressed picture.
	So again, you can see where the photos have been.
	This has been compressed to make the faces look rounder.
	So Paul had a rounder face, and they compressed it, and they just compressed all of them to make him look more like Paul.
	See? Uncompressed, compressed.
	This is the original. This is the full movie.
	So that was something I picked up on.
	Just one of the many, you know...
	Tricks that they've used over the years.
	Abbey Road was a big Clue album.
	You know, it's supposed to be like a funeral procession.
	Here's John Lennon as the funeral director, and then Ringo is the undertaker.
	Fall is the corpse.
	George is the gravedigger.
	I mean, some of this stuff is speculative, of course.
	Paul has a cigarette in his right hand when Paul was pretty much solely left-handed, did everything with his left hand.
	And then people see the White Beetle back here with the 28th of Lyndon McCartney Weep, supposedly.
	But people are saying that, well, if Paul had lived, he would have been 28th.
	And so, and also there's been a lot of speculation about why it is fall barefoot.
	So he's been making up all sorts of stories.
	Oh, it was a hot day.
	And it's like, okay, so I'm going to walk barefoot on a busy street with potentially glass or dog poo or cigarette butts.
	I'm going to kick off my sandals and walk barefoot.
	Sure. Okay, that makes sense.
	But I think it probably is a clue.
	And also, as it turns out, Fall has polydactyly.
	So he has six toes on his right foot.
	So you will see a lot of It's almost like Fall is challenging people to notice that he has six toes.
	And being barefoot, oh, look at my feet.
	And actually, it was Greg Gentry who alerted me to the fact that Fall had six toes.
	Because I had looked at their toes and say, or looked at their feet and say, okay, well, Fall has hammer toes.
	Fall has big old kind of gnarly looking feet.
	And Fall just had normal feet.
	But I never thought to count the toes.
	So, anyway. And that right there, that should be enough to convince anyone.
	You're not going to sprout an extra toe in your 20s.
	But people, they can just, almost anything, they can just rationalize away, I guess.
	I don't know. So, this song, St.
	Paul by Terry Knight, is another big clue song.
	So, it came out before the Paul McCartney brouhaha really got started in 1969.
	So, he says, oh, he started the Paul McCartney is Dead rumor, but that's not actually true.
	And actually, Fallows tried to claim that he started it with this album cover in 1969, which, again, isn't true.
	But... So, it's dedicated to McCartney, which is a little weird.
	So, St. Paul, again, it's like, is it St.
	Paul of Tarsus or is it Paul McCartney who's dead, now he's in heaven, so he's like a saint?
	Yeah. It was published by Macklin Music, which was McCartney, Lennon McCartney, their publishing company, and not Storybook, which otherwise published all of Terry Knight's music.
	So that's a little bit weird.
	And it's a total rip-off of Hey Jude.
	So how does he get away with that without being sued for plagiarism, which Fall is wont to do.
	He doesn't like anything like that.
	So it almost seems like Fall commissioned that song or gave that song to Terry Knight to record.
	Something weird going on with that song, though.
	And Terry Knight was murdered in 2004 before he could really ever say anything about the song or what was behind it.
	He actually refused to talk about the song, but now he can't.
	Then we have another comp here.
	To me, this is just so obvious when you see them.
	Their profiles next to each other.
	It's like the ears are different.
	I mean, these crazy eyebrows, they pasted on Fall.
	The mustache isn't pulling anybody.
	The nose, the chin, the head shape.
	Look at that shape! It's totally different.
	So Fall's head, his skull changed in his mid-20s.
	I don't know how people explain all this stuff away.
	They don't want to believe it.
	That's what it is. They do not want to believe that it's not the same, Paul.
	It's hard. Now, to me, the biggest clue as far as the ear prosthetic, I'm sure you're going to have a picture of that coming up.
	I mean, who wears an ear prosthetic?
	So, to me, that was one of the most slam-dunk clues that I've ever seen.
	Yeah. So, well, there's this reverse speech clue in gratitude called, who is this now?
	I was Willie Campbell.
	So, does that mean that that was Paul's actual real name before he became Paul?
	Or is that just like a red herring, maybe?
	I don't know. But it is kind of strange.
	You can ask another question.
	All right, there's a video of fall walking in the room and george harrison says well hello william is is that legit Yeah, I think so.
	And also, Olivia, George Harrison's wife or widow, said, hello, Billy, to Paul.
	They all know. They all know it's not the real Paul.
	Then Elaine, too, said, oh, yeah, I recorded with Billy Shears.
	They all know.
	Heather Mills, I'm going to talk about her later, too.
	But she found out.
	So she's the only one of Paul's wives who wasn't Jewish.
	So Paul McCartney was Catholic and Fall is the Jewish Beatle, right?
	So his first and third wives were Jewish and Heather Mills was not and she's the only one who wasn't willing to go along with the story.
	And she said, wow, something so awful happened and people don't want to know They don't want to know what happened.
	She has a box of evidence and if anything happens to her, it's going to come out.
	I've seen that video.
	She's like really emphatic that something's not right here and someone accuses her of trying to sell a book or something like that and she just goes off on the interview or Yeah, she was threatened.
	She was discredited.
	It seems she took the payoff, you know, kept quiet.
	But she has a daughter to think of.
	But who knows what would have happened to her because there is a trail of dead bodies behind this whole story.
	Mal Evans, Brian Epstein, Terry Knight.
	Did I say Mel Evans already?
	Yeah. I did.
	He was late. No, Brian Epstein was the first one who died right after, like a year after Paul was replaced.
	And then Mel Evans was going to release a tell-all book, and he ended up getting shot by the LA police, like early 1976.
	So the book, the whole thing was never published.
	I mean, excerpts have, but a lot was redacted.
	And then Terry Knight in 2004, and then Heather Mills, she was threatened and blackmailed, or discredited anyway, in 2007 because They wanted to make it seem like she was crazy so that if she said it's not the same Paul McCartney, then people would just say, oh, she's just a crazy, you know, she got in a fight with him or she hates him.
	So she's saying all this crazy stuff.
	That's how they were trying to set it up.
	And that's what they do.
	So How Do You Sleep was a song by John Lennon.
	And it says, like, well, Sergeant Pepper took you by surprise.
	So it's like, yeah, well, Fall joined right before Sergeant Pepper, right?
	So that was his first album.
	He said he joined the Beatles as an already set-up affair, which if you're...
	You know, Paul joined the Quarrymen with John Lennon back in late 1957.
	But then he co-founded the Beatles.
	He didn't join. You wouldn't say you join a band that you co-founded.
	So that was a weird thing he said.
	And then He also said those freaks was right when they said you was dead, which I don't know why he has to have such a poor grammar.
	But that's again saying, yeah, that's a clue, right?
	I mean, he's telling you that Paul is dead, but people just...
	I don't know what they think. But look at these pictures!
	It's not the same hair color.
	It's not... It's just not the same person.
	Sorry, you people. I know you want to believe it's the same person, but it's not.
	Again, another one. This is Paul from either Paperback Writer, the video.
	And then this is Paul from 1967.
	So again, pretty close in time.
	But you could tell they're not the same person.
	And they probably did some Photoshop.
	I mean, they didn't have Photoshop back then, but they had tools they could use to maybe do a merging of pictures to make it look more like Paul, but it's not.
	Yeah. In Laurel Canyon, they had a full-fledged photo facility.
	I'm not sure how much you've gotten into the Laurel Canyon thing.
	Yeah, I've looked at it.
	Dave McGowan, by the way, could not believe that Paul was replaced and he hated me.
	And it's like he could see so much and like realize so much, but he just could not see the Paul McCartney stuff, which we all have our...
	I mean, John Lewis spent a lot of time there.
	So did George Harrison.
	I don't see what the problem was.
	I don't know. Maybe it takes a true Beatles fan to see it.
	True love of Paul McCartney to actually see that it's not the same guy.
	Maybe. Because I would say that I really love the role of Paul McCartney.
	I worked really hard to expose what happened to him.
	This took years of my life.
	A lot of research. But I did it because it was an act of Of love for me to do this.
	So there's that famous movie, Imagine John Lennon, which they may have tried to put the kibosh on a bit.
	But there's that scene with George Harrison talking about Beetle Bill and his number five hit in Sweden, which is...
	Kind of a slam because the Beatles would regularly have number one hits with Paul McCartney, right?
	There was that one time in 1964 when they had the top five songs on the chart, right?
	So Can't Buy Me Love was number one and then it was like Hard Day's Night or whatever was like the top five spots in America.
	And then, oh, Fall manages the number five in Sweden.
	It's like, well, it could have been Timbuk too, you know?
	It's like, whatever. Like, he just doesn't have the same ability.
	And then he's talking about the Fab 3 again, so it's like, because Fall was not one of the originals.
	He came in later, so he doesn't really count as a Fab 4.
	He wasn't there during Beatlemania.
	He came in with Sgt.
	Pepper after Beatlemania was over, because You know, maybe Fall pulls off the LA concert, right?
	But the concert for the last Beatles concert, you would think that they would hype that thing like crazy, but they don't.
	They kind of try to keep it...
	They don't promote it.
	Like, the Shea Stadium concert, 1965.
	Oh, yeah. That's promoted like crazy, right?
	But not the last Beatles concert.
	And a lot of people who were in attendance thought it wasn't a very good concert.
	They ran through the songs really fast.
	The sound wasn't very good.
	It probably was fall.
	I can't prove for sure, but I know that pictures from the Seattle concert just a couple of days earlier are pawned off as being from the later LA concert.
	That was the final concert at Shea Stadium, or are you saying there was another one?
	No, no. The very final concert in LA at Candlestick on August 29th, 1966.
	I think Fall played that concert.
	And they take the pictures from the Seattle concert from August 25th, when that was Paul, the real Paul, probably his last show.
	And they pawn him off as being from the later show.
	So you think, oh, well, Paul's still there in LA on August 29th.
	It's like, no, that's an earlier concert.
	They're making you think.
	They're just confusing you, right?
	They're giving you the earlier pictures and seeing it's from a different concert.
	It's just part of the To me, the Beatles just stopping performing.
	I mean, once you get a taste of this, you can barely pull musicians off the stage.
	I mean, look at the Rolling Stones.
	They just want to continue on and continue on and just to stop all of a sudden.
	Makes no sense. Well, especially in their heyday like that.
	And even John Lennon said that they were planning on coming to America again in 1967.
	They said, oh, that just seems to be what we do during our summers.
	We just go to America and do a concert, do a bunch of concerts, right?
	So they were planning on doing that.
	The real Paul said that he didn't want to keep playing shows like that when he was 40.
	That would be ridiculous.
	He wanted to transition into writing film scores, which he did.
	He wrote Live in the Open Air for The Family Way.
	So he won a big prize.
	I can't remember off the top of my head what it was, but he won a big prize for his film scores.
	And then Fall later said, I think he maybe he won the same prize and he had forgotten that Paul had won the prize because he said, oh, this was the first time he'd won it.
	He said something weird like that.
	I don't have it off the top of my head.
	But yeah, another clue that he's not the same Paul because if he had already won it, I think it's the Otello Award or something like that.
	But he didn't remember that Paul had already won it.
	Because he doesn't remember the legend.
	So he probably had to remember a whole bunch of facts about Paul's life.
	But he doesn't remember them correctly.
	He didn't remember when he joined the Beatles.
	He didn't remember how much older he was than George Harrison.
	If you start picking it all apart...
	Phillip Norman, who was a biographer, said that Fall reinvents history.
	He revises history all the time.
	And then Noah Gallagher from Oasis said that they know the Beatles' history better than Fall does.
	The people are picking up, like, he's seeing things that aren't right.
	Maybe he has dementia, but it's probably just...
	Do you subscribe to the idea that Fall wanted to Scored the film for Mark Lane, who did the JFK video?
	Paul McCartney did.
	So Paul McCartney didn't believe the official story, and I think that's another reason why he just, he had to go.
	Because he was just, he wasn't a New World Order propagandist.
	I mean, he wasn't going to push all that.
	He was too big and too popular, and he was not on...
	I'm bored or they didn't think that they could get him to promote all of this New World Order business.
	So he had to go replaced with somebody who would.
	But Paul contacted Mark Lane.
	I guess he got a copy of it, he read it, rushed to judgment, and he's like, Lee Harvey Oswald didn't do it, did he?
	And so they had this whole big conversation.
	Paul wanted to write the film score for it.
	Then, you know, once Paul is done and Paul is in his position, then suddenly that doesn't move forward anymore, whatever.
	So, yeah.
	So I think that's just another problem they had with Paul.
	And then, okay, so in 2011, there was an article with Ringo Starr when he says that he was the last remaining Beatle.
	I remember that. Yeah, and that's not a fake article.
	There is a fake article out there that's similar to it, but this one is actually a real article.
	And I have it on my blog. I have a lot of this stuff on my blog and in the book.
	But again, this comp, you can see how different their heads are.
	And you can just, I mean, it's just to me obvious that they're not the same person.
	But okay, so here are some clues that Fall McCartney has put out.
	With just two Pauls, doubles, imposters, twin freaks, right?
	Here are two Pauls, two real Pauls, and then Fall with his double.
	And just so much.
	Just kind of rubbing it in people's faces, I think.
	Then here is that weird movie Braverman's Condensed Cream of the Beatles, which I think tells the story of what happened to Paul.
	So here's the car driving, possibly being chased or crashing.
	Here's the fiery car crash.
	Here are just signs of somebody being assassinated, clues, skeleton hands, dead person.
	Oh, here's the dead Paul, which...
	Maybe has to be reversed, but still looks like a dead body hanging.
	I do need to reverse that.
	It's supposed to be hanging. This is Paul from a swimming pool, but they chose this picture because he looks kind of dead, right?
	And then here is a symbol for keeping silent.
	So you'll see this imagery.
	I think this is Illuminati imagery of just keeping silent.
	So this is all in this weird little cartoon movie about the Beatles.
	Not what you would expect.
	And then Fall likens himself to an artist, which is pretty, well, debatable.
	But people have remarked on how much red he uses in his pictures, and it's kind of weird, like...
	He's using red in ways you wouldn't normally expect, or so much red, and it's the color of blood and death, and then maybe there is something to this whole Paul is dead conspiracy theory.
	So this is just something that the art world has picked up on.
	Here is a comp of Paul with Mal Evans.
	And then Fall with Mal Evans.
	So this guy was pretty big, right?
	He was at least six, two or three.
	I think he was pretty big.
	And then Paul is pretty little next to him.
	And then Fall is still shorter, but he's much larger in comparison to Paul.
	Good guy. Yeah.
	And then, of course, we mentioned Mal Evans and his book that was never released in its entirety.
	But Mal Evans said that he had write songs on the Sgt.
	Pepper album. And of course, he never got royalties because fall is notoriously cheap.
	When Paul was very generous, Paul was very cheap.
	And that's just another difference between them.
	So yeah, they, so Mal Evans, yeah.
	So they lost, the police lost his book, his manuscript, suitcase full of Beatles memorabilia, and the body went missing.
	Isn't that interesting? I'm sure that's just a coincidence, yeah.
	Awesome. The Los Angeles Police are involved in so much.
	Sirhan, Sirhan.
	RFK? Yeah, I was about to say that, RFK. And so, Miles Evans, he was like the bodyguard.
	I mean, I've seen his picture many times, but I never did really figure out exactly what he was doing all the time.
	He was the road manager for 10 years, whenever they were touring.
	So, probably from their early days, Touring around England to, you know, their last concert in America.
	He was just there.
	And then he was still with them until the end of the Beatles.
	But he wasn't treated very well by fall.
	He was supposed to get credit.
	But see, that's the other thing.
	Like, okay, Paul McCartney is writing songs like yesterday by himself.
	Why would he need the roadie to help him write songs?
	Why doesn't he get John Lennon or George Harrison to help him write?
	And it's just another thing that doesn't really quite click.
	And then here's another comp.
	And then talking about Heather Mills when she was saying, you know why I love you, protect me and I'll say nothing.
	And then saying that she's going to give the information out if something happens to her.
	Like he can kill her, but the information is going to come out.
	So I'm going to look at the difference in the face of Yeah.
	Yeah, look at, like, Paul's ears stuck out.
	And, well, fall's not so much, but yeah.
	So then I get more into the physical differences.
	And, I mean, look at this.
	That's supposed to be Paul McCartney.
	Okay, first of all, He looks at least 10 years older.
	It's supposed to be two years difference, right?
	So this is Paul from Help, which was 1965.
	And then here's Strawberry Fields Forever from 1967.
	It's like, well, if you didn't have Ringo there, you wouldn't even know that's supposed to be Paul.
	You're right. I would not say, oh, Paul McCartney.
	And I can spot him like that from a mile away.
	Mm-hmm. And then people did think that they looked old and ugly.
	So there's a Dick Clark show when they did the promo.
	They played the promo for Strawberry Fields Forever.
	And the audience was like, what?
	They look old and ugly.
	Hey Jude, is that the one you're talking about?
	Well, they played Strawberry Fields Forever on the Dick Clark show.
	Like, what do you think about the Beatles' new look?
	And people are like, no, please, no.
	They look old and ugly.
	Some of the audience members said that.
	It's like, well, yeah, because fall was older, which is funny because initially fall was older than Paul, but now fall is younger than Paul would have been because Paul would be...
	He was born in June 18, 1942, so he'd be 82.
	And the fall they have running around now is nowhere near 82.
	He's probably like maybe 70 tops.
	So they've had multiple falls over the years too, but...
	Yeah, so there was this movie, Magical Mystery Tour.
	Fall and Mal Evans were in Nice, and they weren't allowed into this hotel because they didn't look the part.
	Fall was saying he's Paul McCartney, and the hotel was like, you're not Paul McCartney.
	But anyway, that got smoothed over.
	But anyway, so Cynthia Lennon, also the first wife of John Lennon, she dropped some hints and she said stuff like, yeah, the years 1966 to 67 were tremendous years of mental and physical change for the Beatles.
	Well, That's a weird thing to say, physical change.
	Don't you think? But look at these.
	Look at this.
	I mean, I actually don't think Paul was the only one who was replaced.
	I mean, there's a lot of stuff about John Lennon being replaced too.
	I was going to ask you about that.
	I've seen one of your videos concerning that.
	Yeah, I posted one, it wasn't that long ago, but it had John Lennon in LA, so it was like 1974, and this was a PBS production, and It had somebody who was being interviewed talking about John Lennon being in a bar and he was just making a fool of himself.
	He was drunk and he was sticking like maxi pads on his forehead or doing just crazy stuff.
	And he said, well, it would have been really funny for the people there if it had been the real John Lennon.
	It's like, did he just say that?
	So, of course, I film it and I stick it on my, you know, bench shoot and Odyssey channels.
	And it's like, well, you just have an insider telling you it's not the real John Lennon.
	I mean, I don't know what people need here.
	Besides just that they look different, I've put a lot of stuff out about John, but there's not as much as Paul, so that's why I've really just focused on Paul, because you've got all of the clues, and you also have forensic scientists, you've got voice prints by scientists.
	I mean, there's just a ton of stuff for Paul.
	And anyway, oh yeah, and then she also said Paul was rejuvenated.
	But she also said that it wasn't John anymore.
	So she tried to kind of tell you in a cryptic way so she wouldn't get in trouble.
	But then here is Paul with Jane Asher and then Fall with Jane Asher.
	And you can just see how different they look.
	And she... There's a story with Robie Young.
	Yeah, so he supposedly went to this engagement party for Paul and Jane Asher.
	And he's like, well, why is Paul hanging out with this Linda woman, the photographer?
	And somebody's like, oh, that's a different Paul.
	That's not the same Paul McCartney.
	And he's like, what? Yeah, so I have that in the book too, Plastic Macca.
	I read that. So physical differences, well I mean now it's so easy you can just run a bunch of facial recognition and the best, the closest match I've ever seen for Fall and Paul is like 74%.
	So for supposedly the same person to be in the low 70s isn't really that good.
	And here is kind of an artist trick that if you're having trouble seeing differences, just turn it upside down.
	And then you get a different perspective.
	So this nose is a lot longer than Paul's, right?
	Paul's eyebrows are a little bit hard to see here.
	But, you know, but the nose is really a giveaway.
	It's a lot, a lot longer.
	Anyway, because you're so used to seeing it in one way if you reverse it.
	It's a way to just get a different perspective.
	And so then more physical differences.
	So this is from Spies Like Us.
	You'll see this I use a lot on like everything as my image.
	But here's fall with kind of like blue-gray eyes.
	The real Paul had brown, like chocolate brown eyes.
	And so then you just stick them together and it's like, well, that's not a match.
	I mean, the ears are not the same angle.
	They're not at the same angle.
	You can see that, right? They're not at the same angle.
	The eye color is totally different.
	Head shape again is different.
	Wow, those ears. I mean, it's drooping down on this side.
	And it's going in.
	That's a slam dunk right there.
	Wow. Yeah. This is just talking about legal differences.
	But again, you can see the eyes.
	This is Heiju, 1968.
	This is probably 1966.
	When I watched that video, he seems to have green eyes.
	Yeah. Fall has green eyes.
	At least one of the falls had green eyes.
	We're going to see more of that.
	So, um, yeah, so 2009 in August, there's a famous Wired Italia article that came out with two forensic scientists, so Gabbatsini and Carlesi, and so they ran through a bunch of the physical differences.
	so one of them was the nasal spine which is between the nostrils and they said so that's different not something that you can change with surgery and they did hint that the mustache was there to conceal the difference you can see the difference in the nose see this is a little bit of a upturned nose and this look at that nose that's totally different But that's supposed to be the same person.
	This is 1965, Paul.
	This is 1968, Paul.
	Just a totally different profile.
	And these people set out to debunk the theory.
	Yes. So they had heard All the stuff about Paula's death, they're like, well, this is crazy.
	Let's just go and prove it wrong.
	It's like, wait a second.
	There are like five differences.
	They stopped at like five or six differences because they're forensic scientists.
	They know if like one thing is different, that's enough to prove a different person.
	So they just, they did six and they're like, well, this is plenty.
	Okay, so then here's the other one, the lips.
	So the oral commissure, which is what the forensic scientist talked about.
	This is how wide it is here, which is different.
	But also this cupid's bow.
	See, this is paw, a very pronounced cupid's bow.
	This is paw, which is just kind of not, it's not announced.
	And then we have the jawline was different.
	So, again, not something that you're going to change as an adult, but you can just see the difference in these profiles and hair color too.
	I mean, I guess you can change your hair color a bit.
	Okay, so then we have the teeth.
	So that was another big tell because Paul had a small mouth and he got a lot of misaligned teeth.
	His front right canine was twisted.
	Because his teeth came in crooked, right?
	And then Fall comes along and his mouth is much whiter.
	And he doesn't have the same miscellaneous teeth.
	And it's like, well, how did that happen?
	He would have had to have worn braces for a year.
	They would have had to have actually broken his palate.
	They would have had to broken it, put him in braces and restructured his whole face.
	And it's like, well, why would they have done that?
	Makes no sense. Wouldn't have been able to hide it.
	So obviously, that didn't happen.
	So then, again, you're looking at a double who has a different mouth.
	I mean, that's how you explain it.
	They didn't say that.
	They basically said, well, if he were dead and we were looking at him, we would say he was a different person.
	But they were trying to cover and not get sued.
	So, here's another one.
	We might have seen this one before.
	Did we see this one already? But look at these ears.
	These ears are different. Oh.
	Yeah. This might be like one of the fake ears you were talking about.
	Yeah. Right?
	It looks kind of like a...
	Flip balm. Ear?
	I don't know what it is.
	So the ear libs are different because Paul had attached ear libs.
	Paul has unattached ear libs.
	That's one tail. There's so many tails.
	They think slapping a fake mustache on him is going to be like, oh yeah, that's the same person.
	That fools me totally.
	So the tragus was one thing that was different.
	That's the part of the ear, again, that you can't really change with surgery.
	And why would you change it?
	Just kind of weird.
	So, false, false ears.
	Yeah, see, here's kind of a weird clip on earlobe.
	Here's, see, that's a good shot of Paul's attached earlobe right here, because it's like 1963, I think.
	See, here's a little...
	I can zoom in on it a little bit there.
	Just one of these physical differences is enough to prove it's not the same person.
	So here's Paul from 66 to fall of 67.
	Just one ear.
	And how different this head shape is, the skull shape.
	You can't change an adult's head shape.
	The skull is different.
	Look how much rounder this is.
	This is more... You know, long and narrow.
	Like, yeah, you let your face grow long, just like I'm the walrus, right?
	So... The mustache does not help his looks at all, so I don't see why he'd be doing that anyway.
	You know? Well, I think it's because, oh, he looks different.
	It must be the mustache.
	I think that was what they were thinking.
	Or also to hide his face.
	You know, like, you can't...
	They were talking about this...
	This nasal spine, you stick a mustache on, it kind of obscures it a little bit.
	That's what the forensic scientists were saying.
	And then here, just eye color, paw with the chocolate brown eyes, fall with green, blue-green eyes.
	I mean, here. But you have different falls too.
	So here is Magical Mystery Tour, 1967 fall, kind of green eyes.
	These are like hazel, still different, basically different color, but you can see this better.
	This is Strawberry Fields Forever video.
	So they're showing, they show a close-up of Paul's green eyes three times to say, nothing is real, Paul's green eyes.
	Nothing is real, Paul's green eyes.
	They do that three times, like, hello, look at my green eyes.
	And they're, like, daring you to see that it's not the same, Paul.
	Go watch it. You know, it's on YouTube.
	Well, I don't like YouTube, but it is on there.
	Okay, so eyebrows, again, another tell, because, I mean, these actually look like fall's real eyebrows, but sometimes you see fake eyebrows.
	But, okay, so here's fall, and here's fall, and you can see that's not the same eyebrow, right?
	This is kind of arched here.
	This is a little bit flatter, right?
	You can see that. It's not as thick.
	Yeah, right.
	Okay, so not the same eyebrow.
	This again, totally not the same eyebrow.
	This might be a different fall.
	We have different falls standing in for Paul.
	This looks like fall.
	He's ready for Halloween.
	He's like, I'm going as Paul McCartney this year.
	It's like, what is this?
	What is this craziness?
	But this is a legitimate video from, I don't know, 1974.
	I think it's the mid-70s.
	But is this fooling anybody?
	Those eyebrows are just unbelievable.
	They go way down in here.
	They're all thick. I mean, nobody has eyebrows going down here.
	It's crazy.
	It's like this one, maybe you should glue that on again.
	No, it takes a 90 degree turn.
	That's a slam dunk again, right there.
	Bam. There's so many slam dunks.
	Oh my goodness. Okay, so here's a good height comp.
	So Ringo is 5'6", I think.
	And then Paul, his roll height, probably around 5'8".
	And then here's Fall, just totally towering above him.
	But you can see their feet, which is why I like the comp, because, you know, I mean, beetle boots might have had a little heel, but they would have been about the same height ratio between Paul and Ringo.
	I mean, these are just sneakers, so they're standing flat.
	So again, I mean, that's a big difference.
	And we know Paul did not grow two inches when he's, you know, 25.
	I mean, I know women that will wear flat shoes because they don't want to be as tall as they actually are.
	And it looks like that's what he's doing.
	Right. Oh, that's a good point.
	Well, they should have hit Ringo in some little cowboy boots or something to make him look taller.
	Yeah. Okay, so here's another one that is the chin.
	So one of my friends who's a singer says that he has singer's chin and so did Paul.
	That's what he calls it. I don't know if it has a technical word.
	And then here's this like high and tight fall chin, right?
	Strong jawline.
	Yeah, it's just a different chin.
	Throat chin, I guess.
	So the hair part is like another thing that we've noticed.
	So Paul's hair would be combed from left to right because, you know, you don't want to try to comb your hair on the side that doesn't leg, right?
	Like it's going against the grain.
	And then falls was actually reversed.
	So is it a clue when the who say parting on the left is now parting on the right?
	Could be.
	Could be. Could be a clue.
	I think there are clues in other songs about what happened with Paul.
	I mean, they all know. They all know.
	Jimmy Fallon, for example, told Fall to His Face he's the best Paul McCartney impersonator.
	Yeah. And then, of course, there's the famous one with David Letterman, when he's saying, oh yeah, there's this rumor that you were killed and replaced by a lookalike.
	And then Fall is like, yeah, I'm him!
	Basically admitting that he was a lookalike.
	And then David Letterman's like, or is it?
	Because he knows, and they're just screwing with people.
	But they always play it off as a joke.
	Yeah. So anyway, but you know, with fall, you also have his natural hair, yes, but also you can have wigs and hair pieces.
	So that's something to watch out for.
	And then different falls too.
	Dominant hand, Paul was a famous lefty, did everything with his left hand, even wrote backwards like Leonardo da Vinci did that too.
	He couldn't do a lot with his right hand.
	He really was very left hand dominant.
	Some people are ambidextrous.
	That was not Paul's case.
	And then you see Fall using his right hand a lot.
	So this is a famous scene from the anthology.
	People say, well, it's reversed and dropped in.
	Well, even if it were, it's still a hint.
	They're still telling you there's something going on with this.
	Right? Here.
	See what it looks like?
	I mean, I know you know because you're a guitar player, but for the audience, this is what it looks like when you play left-handed.
	This is what it looks like when you play right-handed.
	And then here is, he's lighting a cigarette with his right hand.
	And then this dead man, tell no tales, had a lot of right-handed clues, right?
	So he's got the sword with his right hand.
	He's got his playing cards with his right hand.
	It's like, Paul is not even pretending to be left-handed anymore.
	He just kind of gave that up.
	He's like, nobody's going to notice anyway.
	I'm a totally different person.
	Got away with it for 50 years.
	Just nobody cares anymore.
	So he doesn't even pretend. Another thing being a bass player is that I noticed that Paul McCartney can play his bass without looking down.
	And when it's the new, you know, fall, he's like staring at the bass, and it's just, I mean, I think it was a tall order to be able to, first of all, to be able to play bass when you're right-handed, but then to actually be as great as Paul McCartney was on bass guitar, it was a very, very tall, tall order, and they didn't do it.
	No they didn't. And people can learn to play bass with their left hand.
	If you're right-handed, there are Beatle cover bands.
	Ivan Roche is one I talk about in the book.
	And they work hard and they learn how to play bass left-handed.
	But, you know, Fall could have people playing backstage playing bass.
	Or he could actually be playing bass and he's just not that good.
	I mean, he has to look at the fretboard to play an open E. I mean, a lot of people have noticed that, right?
	Paul never. Paul would be singing and dancing.
	He never looked at us. He was so good.
	He just didn't need to live down.
	He really knew his instrument very well.
	I think Paul McCartney, the original, was a genius that you're just not going to see very often.
	And then having Paul step in and try to be him I just can't pull it off.
	He didn't pull it off.
	Because we're talking about him.
	If he had pulled it off, nobody would have known.
	So then there are lots of instances of Fall using his right hand.
	Okay. So then the voice prints, too.
	Another forensic evidence.
	Something that you can use as evidence in court, right?
	Or voice prints. And here's another cont.
	It's crazy.
	It's crazy. So Dr.
	Henry Truby was an early...
	I don't know if he invented voice prints, but he used them early on.
	And he was a professor.
	And during all of this brouhaha with Paul is Dead, he ran voice prints on a bunch of songs.
	And he found three different voices.
	So yesterday from 1965 was The Real Paul.
	Then you have voice double number one for Penny Lane of 1967.
	And voice double number two for Hey Jude of 1968.
	And we know that voice doubles are used.
	That shouldn't really surprise anybody.
	So phototampering, which we touched on before with Let It Be.
	Well, here is an example when they take pictures.
	And this is just an example.
	I don't know for sure that they blended these particular pictures together, but you get a composite that looks more like Paul.
	Than just, like, this is the raw picture of fall, and this is the composite blend, which does look more like Paul.
	I mean, it's still not gonna fall anybody, but...
	That's just one of the things they've done and also making the head rounder.
	So this skull is not as round as this one.
	This is a rounder skull.
	But you will also see Paul with his head stretched to look more like Paul.
	So you see it both ways.
	Just to confuse the issue and it did take me a long time to narrow down the window when Paul was replaced because there's so much trickery To purposely obfuscate this.
	And if you don't know the Beatles really, really, really well from being a lifetime fan like I was, you would just be like, oh my god, I have no idea what I'm even looking at here because it's like different ears and different licks and it's just a big mess.
	So you have to go in already with an educated eye to the most part, even for the most part to even see it because I like a Even Biden doubles or people I know were replaced.
	Stalin had doubles and Kim Jong Il.
	I don't know what I'm looking at.
	I know there are doubles, but I can't tell you when or when this happened because I don't know.
	I haven't researched them enough to have an opinion about it.
	You can spot it right away when you see a picture.
	Yeah, I know Paul McCartney very well, like what he looks like, what he should look like.
	So, oh, here's one.
	One of my favorite photo-tampering examples, because here is the Memphis 1966, August 19th, a very famous concert press conference they gave.
	So here's the official picture of the needles and here's what Paul really looked like that day and here's this horrible like Frankenstein fall thing creature they pasted together and just look at how horrible this is so the hair it looks like they just went over in black like They didn't have Photoshop per se, but they could do stuff on photos.
	So they put, like, paint bucket on this hair.
	The highlights, I mean, the highlights are kind of gone.
	I mean, like, you can see some highlights in here that are gone on this one.
	And then you look at these eyebrows.
	Okay, we're just going to do this black swatch here.
	We're going to put some stubble on him.
	He didn't have any stubble that day.
	It's just...
	It's such a horrible...
	I mean, you can see it, right?
	And then it's just this picture to this.
	And then I have another picture of the four Beatles together where Paul looks normally...
	He looks like this, kind of.
	But this is just what we're contending with, right?
	And I actually wrote...
	The owner of this, I don't know if it's Getty Images or whoever, and I was like, why do you have a photoshopped image of Paul that you're selling?
	And they never did get back to me.
	Surprise. And then photo tampering...
	Somebody else noticed and they posted this picture of Paul from 1966.
	They just take that exact same picture, put it on a 1967 Beatles Monthly and Photoshop some mustache on him.
	And it's like, oh, voila! You have your...
	Paul is still with us.
	Look! He's still there.
	That is Paul. They just put a mustache on him.
	And they did that with Lee Oswald.
	They just posted his face on a different body.
	A lot of similarities here.
	But that's the exact picture.
	Wow. See how confusing and hard it gets when you start researching it?
	Because if you don't know, there's this 1966 picture that's been re...
	You never know. For 1967, you'd be like, well, that's Paul.
	But it is, but it's a fake picture.
	I mean, it's not a fake picture.
	I mean, it's a fake picture with a mustache.
	But it's there to trick you into thinking Paul is still at this in 1967 when he wasn't.
	Here's another thing they like to do.
	They take half and half.
	So half Paul and half It's half fall.
	I mean, whoever it is. Here it is broken downward.
	So you take this half.
	Here is Paul.
	This half is fall.
	See? Okay, here's what Paul really looked like.
	And then you take it.
	Okay, you take this side and mirror it.
	Okay, that looks like Paul.
	Take this side.
	Take this side.
	And mirror it. And this is like, well, who is that?
	That's not Paul.
	No, that's bad.
	Do you see how they've tried to screw with people's heads here?
	Yeah. This is some dark stuff.
	Like, we're going to take half a Paul and half a Paul.
	I never would have thought about that, honestly.
	Trying to trick people with a picture like that.
	That's devious. Alright.
	So then we get photo tampering, which is still going on.
	And since I got involved with Paula's dead stuff, the Disinfo agents just went nuts on these pictures.
	So remember how I said they stretched Paul's face?
	They tried to match it.
	But this is what Paul really looked like, because this is from 1966.
	So I think that's paperback writer.
	That's what he really looked like.
	But you can see that they say, oh, that's 1960.
	That's what Paul looked like.
	No, that is not what Paul looked like.
	They're trying to make it match Fall.
	And then they will just, this is Paul, the real picture, and they just drop this out there because they've smudged his face out and put on Fall's face.
	And this is what we have to contend with.
	Doesn't make it easy.
	Then here's a video tempering.
	So this is the raw video from 6068?
	I think. And then this is Paulified.
	Right? So they try to make it look like Paul more.
	They cleaned it up.
	They made his face rounder.
	This does look more like Paul than that, but still doesn't really look like Paul, but it's better.
	This is what we have to deal with.
	And then, of course, Fall has said a lot of things where he kind of admits he's not the real Paul.
	Like, oh, I don't want to seem like I'm schizophrenic, but really I'm like two people.
	You know, he'll say stuff like that.
	Or I can't believe I'm Paul McCartney.
	It would just blow me head off or something.
	And I think that's probably a clue to what happened to the real Paul.
	Then he...
	He can't believe he's Paul McCartney, but he is, and it's a real mind job, you know?
	Anyway, there are just so many things like that.
	You can see his little round face, and then this is a much longer face.
	Didn't he say something about when he writes songs, he has to imagine he's Paul McCartney, or basically go into his body, or something like that?
	Oh, yeah. Well, he said he pretends like John Lennon is there.
	I think he said something like that.
	But Fall did give some crazy story about how he wrote yesterday and how he dreamt it and it was just like all there.
	Perfectly constructed in the dream.
	And then I went in the book, Plastic Mac, I went and said, well, this is how yesterday actually evolved.
	So Paul started working on it in 1963.
	He's talking about like he has play and day and say and all these words that kind of rhyme together really easy and he just kind of Built it out from there.
	And the first time he played it for somebody was 1963.
	So this song was in the works for a while.
	It wasn't just fully formed in Falls Head, you know.
	But he just makes up stories like that, so...
	Anyway...
	Okay, so...
	Oh yeah, so in Magical Mystery Tour, Fall said he was 30 when Paul really would have been just 25 in 1967.
	In the early 70s, Fall said Paul is dead.
	Um... He claimed that George was a year and a half younger than he was when really it was only eight months.
	And then he said he joined the Beatles as an already set up affair, which is really hard to explain away.
	So, yeah, he's just said a lot of weird things.
	Like, he's just some kid from Liverpool, pretending to be the famous him.
	And he's really good at forgetting who he is because Paul McCartney is just a name he was given, which is probably true.
	We don't know what Paul's real name is or what his identity is.
	I tend to think that he had some sort of musical or acting background to be able to play the part.
	If you look into the history of doubles, like the doubles for Stalin, for example, there was an actor, and then the guy playing General Montgomery was an actor.
	If you're going to replace one of the most prolific bands of all time, you've got to have some talent.
	I mean, there's just no way around that.
	I always thought that he was an accomplished musician.
	Not saying that he wrote better songs, but especially on the piano.
	You're not going to replace Paul McCartney without significant talent, or at least attempted.
	Right. So then I, when I was looking at when exactly the switch took place, this is what fall looked like in that August, September 1966 timeframe.
	And then this is Paul from mid-August 1966.
	So you can see That looks different.
	I mean, the hair is kind of weird, but it just looks different to me.
	So here's another symbol of keeping silent, which is creepy.
	This is one of Fall's albums, and the Rose Speedway, what is it called?
	The Speedway? Red Rose Speedway?
	Something like that. And then here's kind of like the body count here for the Beatles.
	You know, Brian Epstein, maybe he knew too much.
	Maybe he wasn't willing to go along with what happened.
	Who knows? But he supposedly committed suicide or drug overdose, whatever it was.
	Mel Evans was going to tell too much in his story, not his Tell All Beatles book.
	He was going to spill the beans.
	Terry Knight, he knew something, obviously, because he had that song, St.
	Paul. And then Heather Mills was just raked over the coals in case she did spill the beans about fall.
	And then, so here's some speculation about why Paul would have been taken out.
	I mentioned this Butcher album before.
	I think Paul, he really wanted this album out, this cover, and I think he was trying to expose satanic ritual abuse.
	I mean, look at that. This is crazy.
	This is like mid-1966.
	People were not ready for this sort of thing.
	I think he was trying to tell without maybe getting himself killed.
	Which ultimately didn't work.
	But that's my take on it.
	He was speaking out against, well, the Vietnam War, for one thing.
	He was saying, if you don't feel like going to fight, you shouldn't have to.
	He was against Well, punitive taxation, right?
	So Taxman was a song talking about that.
	He was gonna help expose the JFK assassination via story because if he had written the score for Citizen Lane or Rush to Judgment, Questioning the official story.
	A lot of people probably would have gone to see the movie just because Paul McCartney had written the score.
	And then that information would have gotten in front of a lot more people.
	And I don't think the powers that be really wanted that to happen.
	So, and then, yeah, the satanic ritual abuse and sacrifice, which is just coming out now!
	It's coming out with P. Diddy and Beyonce and all these people involved in really dark stuff, and now we're looking at it like, yeah, that's kind of what they were talking about.
	I mean, look at this, like, body part, baby body parts, this woman with, like, intestine, supposed to be, like, intestine or something, really creepy stuff.
	It's like, yeah, we just can't have them showing that sort of thing.
	And the taxation, if I'm not mistaken, was 90%.
	That's crazy.
	And then of course there's the social engineering aspect with using music to further an agenda.
	So the LSD as a biochemical warfare agent really is what it boils down to.
	And, I mean, it's basically promoting the New World Order, and now this is where we are.
	And Paul wasn't willing to go along with all of that, so he's got to go.
	In comes total New World Order stooge.
	Paul loves Obama, he loves Hillary, he's all for gun control, and he was telling people to take the Vax.
	And he claims to have seen a plane hit the World Trade Center on 9-11.
	It's like, you're Superman with x-ray vision.
	I wasn't aware of all that.
	I mean, vaccine? Jeez.
	Yeah. Help us.
	And Paul, you know, in 1965, he did an interview and they're asking him about their popularity and how much influence they have.
	And Paul was saying that they were very careful not to influence their fans.
	They didn't want to influence them not to smoke or not to drink or not to do anything or to do anything.
	They're like, it's not our place.
	It wouldn't be cool, right?
	Yeah. But Fall, he's totally cool with telling people what to do.
	Personally, I'm not against the vegetarian agenda, but some people might take issue with Fall pushing vegetarianism, right?
	And you can't wear a belt, you can't wear any leather shoes, anything like that around him.
	Oh, okay.
	So yeah, so he doesn't have a problem with it.
	It's just another personality difference.
	Yeah, no animal products whatsoever around Paul McCartney.
	If he sees you have leather shoes, leather boots and all that, you're out.
	Yeah, Paul would never have done that.
	The real Paul McCartney would never have done that.
	It just wasn't his style.
	And really, the more you look into Paul and Fall, it's like, what exactly did they have in common?
	What did they have in common?
	They don't look the same. They don't sound the same.
	They're not the same height.
	They don't have the same political views.
	They don't have the same philosophies.
	They don't have the same musical style.
	They don't have the same playing talent.
	What do they have in common?
	They have the same name.
	Oh, I guess that's enough for some people.
	Anyway, so that is bare bones.
	Paul is dead. That's a primer.
	Yeah. I mean, there's a lot more stuff.
	Yeah. There's a lot more.
	There's a lot more stuff, and it's right in here, plus your website.
	Let me get off a screen share.
	How do I get off a screen share?
	Do you want to pause it for a second? Yeah, okay.
	Sorry. While I figure out those...
	All right. There's just so much to know.
	There's so much to do. And thanks to you, you've done almost all the research for us.
	So has it been difficult for you?
	Have you been threatened about all this kind of stuff?
	Are people more accepting of it now?
	I was threatened early on.
	Yeah, I was threatened.
	I had my career threatened and then pictures of my house posted online.
	So I took that as threats and that's why I used Tina Foster initially.
	Just to try to keep my personal and my public life separated.
	But people are always going to figure out who you are.
	I mean, I don't know why they care so much.
	But then I just decided maybe it's better if people know who I am.
	So if something happens, they'll be like, well, she's the one doing the Paul McCartney stuff.
	So that's probably why.
	But now, I think probably a lot more people are accepting of it, but you still get a lot of resistance because they just want to believe so badly.
	It's a certain way.
	Their lives are built around it being a certain way, and I guess it's too difficult to break free from that.
	To me, it's a very important piece of the puzzle.
	I'm not saying it's the whole puzzle.
	I'm saying it is one aspect of the New World Order agenda.
	The people behind all of this, they're known as the name stealers.
	They are known to have a history of taking people, learning their life story, and then murdering them and pretending to be them to further their agenda.
	There is a history for this.
	And it's really dark and it's really evil.
	It needs to be exposed just like the satanic ritual abuse.
	All of that needs to come out.
	Something bad happened to Paul McCartney.
	I think as a person, he deserves to be remembered for himself and not being conflated with some imposter guy.
	So... Okay, can I ask one favor?
	All right. Can we go back to the very, very, very beginning?
	How did this all come about?
	From what I understand, there was a news report.
	I mean, where did all this just blossom from?
	And then we can close out the show then.
	It blossomed from people noticing ultimately that something was going on.
	So then there were different narratives that came out.
	So So people, they started talking about it in the late 1966, already in the fall of 1966, because the Beatles had been in the spotlight, they'd been in the news, they'd been in the media, like nonstop.
	They were the most photographed people in the 1960s.
	And then suddenly after the US tour, They disappear for four months.
	No Beatles. Like, what's going on?
	And then they come back in late 1966 and then in early 1967, looking very different.
	People are like, what is going on?
	And then people are talking about, well, Something happened to Paul.
	Paul was in a car crash.
	I mean, it was in a Beatles Monthly.
	January 1967, there was a Beatles Monthly article talking about the rumor and saying, oh, of course, there's no truth to Paul having an accident.
	His black Mini Cooper is safely locked away in his garage.
	It's like, well, Paul actually had a green Mini Cooper, but details, right?
	It's like...
	It wasn't a news report that went out, is that correct?
	Well, okay, so this is 1967.
	So in England, in Great Britain, Paul McCartney being dead came out In late 1966, okay?
	And now 1969 in September is when it started being reported on in America.
	And then it became worldwide news.
	Everybody's like, what happened to Paul McCartney?
	And that's when Life Magazine went to Campbelltown, Scotland to find Fall and ask him, are you dead?
	He's like, I'm not dead.
	I'm not dead. Which is true.
	They didn't ask, are you the same?
	Are you the real Paul McCartney?
	Which would have made more sense.
	And then they say, well, Paul is still with us.
	See the pictures. All the pictures from 1967 and later.
	And it's like, okay.
	Then everyone's like, okay, it's still the same Paul because Life Magazine said so.
	I see. It's always stayed kind of in the...
	It never went away.
	The Paul McCartney being dead undercurrent has been there ever since then.
	For me, I fell down that rabbit hole in 2008.
	It was still very, very fringe at that point.
	And my goal was to make it a mainstream conspiracy theory.
	I think you've done a good job.
	There's no question about it.
	I remember you being on The Real Deal with Dr.
	Petzer. And I listen to each and every one of those shows intently.
	And look, I don't think you can be doing much more than what you're doing.
	Okay, so as we always say, get the book.
	There it is. And tell them how you can and your website and all that.
	And we'll call it a show.
	Thank you so much. I really appreciate that you're putting the spotlight on this.
	So, my blog is plasticmaca.blogspot.com.
	The book is called Plastic Macca, The Secret Death and Replacement of Paul McCartney.
	It's going to answer probably all of your questions.
	There's maybe a little bit of stuff that's come out since then, but...
	Pretty much the whole Paula's Dead story is in that book.
	Years of research, so probably a decade worth of research is in that book.
	It took me that long to put it together.
	One of the things that is difficult, if you weren't there, is to know just how big the Beatles really were.
	They were untouchable in their prime.
	The impact that they had on musicians, Many more guitar sales and almost everyone wanted to play in a band as soon as the Beatles came out and they changed everything.
	There's no doubt about it.
	And that's an important piece of the puzzle to realize how influential they were and why the powers that be would want to harness that for their own various agenda.
	If you don't realize how big they were, then it doesn't really make sense.
	Okay. All right, Cynthia, I appreciate you being on the show so much.
	Thank you. And I hope everyone gets something out of our show.
	All right. We'll see you next time.

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