Jim Fetzer - Dr. Tom Cowan - Intro to Webinar June 26, 2024
Aired: 2024-07-01
Duration: 14:34


=== Proving the Virus Existence (10:45) ===

[00:00:00]  Okay, welcome everybody.
[00:00:02]  Today, June 26, 2024, another Wednesday webinar.
[00:00:10]  Today we're definitely going to be doing questions and answers since I keep promising to do those and we've, people are kindly sending in a number of questions so it seems only fair to get to them.
[00:00:30]  Not sure that there's any announcements.
[00:00:33]  I just posted a interview with Kelly Brogan, which everybody should check out.
[00:00:38]  And she's doing a, I think, a free masterclass tomorrow night, Thursday night.
[00:00:45]  So you may have a chance to sign up for that.
[00:00:50]  And the only other thing I wanted to say before I got to the questions is, There's the good news is we're getting a lot more activity.
[00:00:59]  I've been saying this for a while on the no virus virus debate and a lot more people are weighing in on it.
[00:01:09]  I mostly hear about these things.
[00:01:11]  I must admit I don't tend to read the whole articles or watch the videos.
[00:01:19]  It's just hard for me to sit through most of them, but Anyways, I'm sure you'll see them.
[00:01:29]  Michael Palmer wrote another rebuttal, and apparently he doesn't believe in one of the fundamental laws of life, which is, if you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.
[00:01:45]  I think everybody should remember that.
[00:01:49]  I try to remember that.
[00:01:51]  But apparently he doesn't believe in that, so he keeps digging a further hole.
[00:01:58]  I think Drs.
[00:01:59]  Tenpenny and Pilevski weighed in, and I think one of the ways of describing a lot of what you'll read and hear is actually an interesting word, which I had to look up to get the exact meaning of, but I've heard it a lot.
[00:02:17]  It's a variation on the W.C.
[00:02:20]  Fields quote, that if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
[00:02:26]  And the word is sophistry.
[00:02:28]  So I did look up what that word means, because I wasn't sure.
[00:02:32]  And it said, subtle, tricky, superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning.
[00:02:42]  And that's pretty much describes exactly what you'll hear from most of the people who are trying to fight back.
[00:02:51]  What's so interesting about it is they don't seem to realize that This is a tremendous gift to the perpetrators of this fraud and the whole flandemic sort of thing, because as soon as we get rid of the virus argument, including the lab-created and lab-engineered nonsense and all that,
[00:03:20]  We end up in two places.
[00:03:22]  One is a whole lot less fear of what your neighbor or friend or crowds are going to do for you because you realize there's no virus to pass between people.
[00:03:34]  So you start living life a lot less fearful, which then improves your health and everybody gets better from that.
[00:03:42]  The second thing is at some point people will start to investigate what actually does make people sick and there is a possibility then that that actually leads to a much saner and healthier and better world because people will stop doing the things which are actually making them sick and actually making people around the world sick
[00:04:09]  Which has nothing to do with these imaginary viruses.
[00:04:16]  I just wanted to give an example of one of these sophistry type arguments.
[00:04:23]  I don't have the quote here to show you, but you can probably take my word for it or go look it up.
[00:04:32]  It had to do with the idea that you can't prove anything in science.
[00:04:39]  And so they criticism of us, us being the no virus people is we have this extraordinary, extraordinary high, like burden of proof that we're putting on the virus people.
[00:04:55]  And so because of that, and because you can't actually prove anything in science, they say that they we will never be satisfied.
[00:05:06]  And you can never prove this one way or another.
[00:05:09]  So it becomes just an irrational, ridiculous argument.
[00:05:14]  That, of course, has nothing to do with what we're saying.
[00:05:18]  We all realize and I certainly realize that you cannot prove something doesn't exist, because if somebody ends up finding it or proving it does at some point you would have been proven wrong.
[00:05:34]  But what you can do.
[00:05:36]  And what it is that we're doing is we can investigate the claim, for instance, that the virologists say that when you get a cytopathic effect, CPE, in a cell culture, that proves there was a virus in the sample.
[00:05:58]  That's what they say.
[00:05:59]  In fact, that is how they proved For decades that there was a virus, they put an unpurified sample, or actually partially purified, they never put an actual virus on a cell culture, and then did it without the virus and see if you got a cytopathic effect.
[00:06:23]  Now we have proven, and there's many, many examples in the literature, That you get a cytopathic effect even without a sample and even without putting something on which could contain a virus.
[00:06:37]  So we have disproven that that procedure proves there is a virus.
[00:06:46]  And then the reality is, if that's what you're going to claim is the proof of the existence, And that is clearly, and I would think even at this point, everybody agrees.
[00:07:01]  Now, even the virologists say, right, well, sometimes you have viruses that they don't cause CPE.
[00:07:08]  So it turns out, on the one hand, they say, you get a cytopathic effect, that proves there's a virus.
[00:07:14]  And then they turn around and say, or if you don't get a cytopathic effect, that proves there was a virus that was harmless, and it was just living happily in the cells.
[00:07:25]  And that's basically sophistry nonsense.
[00:07:29]  sense.
[00:07:31]  So, that has been disproven.
[00:07:34]  Now, that means you have to come up with some other way to try to prove that that thing exists.
[00:07:41]  And they did, actually.
[00:07:43]  So with HIV, they said, well, viruses, HIV, has different proteins than the lymphocyte that it infects.
[00:07:54]  Let me just be clear about that.
[00:07:56]  You got this lymphocyte—it's a kind of white blood cell—it's in your body, and they say this person's T lymphocytes are infected with HIV, and the HIV has different proteins than the T lymphocyte.
[00:08:14]  Obviously, because it's a different organism, right?
[00:08:18]  So it's got to have proteins which are unique to HIV.
[00:08:23]  So that's the claim.
[00:08:25]  So then you do a study.
[00:08:27]  This was the Gelderblum study.
[00:08:29]  You do an electrophoresis.
[00:08:31]  In other words, you examine all of the proteins in an infected T lymphocyte.
[00:08:40]  You get, I think the number was 28 proteins, right?
[00:08:43]  So those are the proteins that were from, allegedly, the T lymphocyte and the HIV.
[00:08:51]  Okay?
[00:08:53]  So then you do a T lymphocyte that couldn't possibly be infected with HIV, and you do the same procedure, and lo and behold, you get the same 28 proteins.
[00:09:07]  Now that's a very easy thing to sort out if you're willing to think, which means that all of those 28 proteins came from the T lymphocyte.
[00:09:21]  There was no HIV proteins.
[00:09:24]  There are no proteins that are unique.
[00:09:27]  Whether they're in different ratios, that has no relevance because obviously one is in a sick person and one is in a well person, so one could imagine they have different proteins, but there are no HIV proteins.
[00:09:44]  And if there are no HIV proteins, then it's not a distinct organism.
[00:09:49]  In other words, it's not different from the T lymphocyte, which means it's not there.
[00:09:57]  Which means you've disproven that as a method of claiming the virus exists.
[00:10:04]  And so that's what we mean by proving things.
[00:10:08]  And they turn that around using sophistry to Try to confuse you so that you don't think in a normal way.
[00:10:19]  And as I keep saying, that's because most doctors and scientists seem to have a thought disorder, which I think we should have a new syndrome called Medical School Acquired Thought Disorder.

=== Why Some Don't Care (04:03) ===

[00:10:35]  could be also, there's a variation of it, or a variant of this, which is called PhD program acquired thought disorder.
[00:10:46]  And that is contagious, and it is rampant in our system.
[00:10:52]  And so a lot of people have come down with that disease.
[00:10:57]  And it's pretty easy to spot if you're just willing to take a few minutes to actually think.
[00:11:04]  Okay, hopefully that's clear.
[00:11:07]  So you'll know you can get a good laugh when you read and watch these different people trying to demonstrate their knowledge of virology.
[00:11:20]  One thing I forgot to say last time.
[00:11:23]  Because I forgot to emphasize, there is a third reason why people get this wrong.
[00:11:29]  So the first two I outlined, one is that they have one of these thought disorders that I just outlined, the medical school or PhD program acquired thought disorder.
[00:11:40]  So that's the common one.
[00:11:44]  And most people have a similar kind of thought disorder where they're not able to actually think through the process.
[00:11:53]  So that's the most common reason why people get this wrong.
[00:11:58]  And then there is a very few, a very minor subset of people who are have nefarious interests so they're basically lying and they have different financial interests or power interests or something and i don't think that happens very much but it is possible and it probably does happen some
[00:12:19]  there is a third reason which i forgot to emphasize which i would say is a legitimate reason which is that you just don't care and this is common For instance, I've said this many times, like, I know nothing about car engines and carburetors.
[00:12:40]  In fact, truth be told, I don't even know whether modern cars have carburetors, or whether somehow that's an old-fashioned engine technology which has gone by the wayside, and modern cars don't even have carburetors.
[00:12:56]  Frankly, I don't know.
[00:12:58]  And mostly, if somebody tried to explain it to me, I would probably kind of go blank.
[00:13:05]  Because frankly, I don't really give a damn about carburetors, and I don't really give a damn about cars.
[00:13:12]  I've only in my life chosen cars because I could afford them, they were reliable, and got me where I wanted to go in reasonable comfort.
[00:13:22]  And further than that, I didn't have any particular interest in cars.
[00:13:29]  Fair enough.
[00:13:30]  We all have subjects like that.
[00:13:34]  The point, though, that I want to make is you are never going to hear me make public criticism or arguments about for or against the existence or the function of carburetors.
[00:13:50]  I'm not going to do that because I know I don't know anything about it, and that's fair enough as long as you just don't weigh in on it.
[00:13:59]  So I don't know why these people who don't actually take the effort and time to look into it, they could just say they just don't care.
[00:14:08]  Whether it's viruses or not, what difference does it make?
[00:14:11]  I mean, I don't agree.
[00:14:13]  If you're a medical doctor, it seems like you ought to know that, but you know, fair enough.
[00:14:18]  If you don't want to know, you don't want to know.
[00:14:20]  Just don't weigh in on it and pretend you're writing these scholarly papers about Or videos about critical thinking and arguments for the viruses, because you just don't know.