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June 12, 2024 - Jim Fetzer
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The Raw Deal (12 June 2024) with Bill Bonitati featuring Russ Winter from Prague
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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, with my co-host on Wednesdays for our few good men edition, Bill Bonitani, who always has a lot to share with us all.
We've invited Russ Winter of Winter Watch to join us while we await Well, I can tell you that the destruction of the early warning strategic radar, which was part of the Russian early warning system, was a good example of such a trigger.
here, very serious situation as the Colonel sees it.
Well, I can tell you that the destruction of the early warning strategic radar, which was part of the Russian early warning system, was a good example of such a trigger.
We're very fortunate that the Russians have not responded to that.
That alone raises eyebrows because people assume, well, you're trying to destroy your early warning system.
The next thing we should expect is a nuclear attack.
So that's very, very dangerous.
And I think something in that category is probably going to trigger.
Now, keep some things in mind.
First of all, nothing happens on the ground in Ukraine, or I would argue in most of Eastern Europe, that the Russians aren't aware of.
Remember, they have space-based intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance.
It's very, very good.
Secondly, I think it's very important for us to understand that we've had some strikes recently using hypersonic missiles in the vicinity of Lvov.
We think a hundred officers, NATO and Ukrainian, were killed in that.
Now, we don't admit to the U.S.
officers and support personnel who've been killed in Ukraine.
We just don't admit it.
The French have been embarrassed because it was hard to cover up.
The British don't admit anything.
Nobody wants to admit that they've got anybody on the ground there.
But that was a signal.
That was an underground facility that was a well-known former Soviet area, Arab barracks and airfield and so forth.
A big training hub for NATO and Ukraine.
And they annihilated it.
Killing at least 100 and wounding another 200.
It was a major, major strike.
It's hard for me to believe that we are so stupid as to announce our willingness to strike Russian territory and not understand that what happened in Western Ukraine could happen in Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Slovakia.
We need to wake up.
These are not idle threats.
The capabilities exist.
And again, if he senses that we are going to mass air power, we've got a thousand F-15s.
Remember, F-15s are nuclear capable.
And if they show up in great numbers, in six or seven hundred, and prepare to launch, I would expect those aerodromes, airfields, to be lost.
The Russians will target them.
And the easiest way to annihilate them is with a tactical nuclear weapon.
I don't see any change in Washington now in the foreseeable future, unless the Russians retaliate very strongly against us in Eastern Europe.
And I'm talking about, as I said before, these key areas, logistical sites, airports, and so forth.
Even logistical nets that depend on rail.
I disagree with John Mearsheimer, and I rarely do.
The one thing that I disagree with here is he talked about we would be dragged into a war.
We're wrong, John.
We've been dragging Europe into this war from day one.
The Europeans now have second thoughts.
They're scared.
And in fact, behind this facade of solidarity, things are falling apart.
Why do you think Shultz spoke and said what he did?
Everybody else in Europe nodded their heads.
No, we are not invading Russia.
It's not going to happen.
We're the ones that continue to provoke.
We're the ones that are continuing to maintain, with British help, this corrupt puppet regime in Kiev, whose only mission in life is to either sacrifice as many Ukrainians as possible and to do as much damage as they can to Russia.
And frankly, they haven't done much damage at all.
You know, today it was announced that Russia has officially become, I think, the fifth largest economy in the world after Japan.
Gosh!
What a huge achievement for the Biden administration and his friends and stupid supporters in both parties sitting in Congress.
They've made Russia a superpower again.
What this represents and what is actually happening in the northern part of Ukraine?
I think you're witnessing the sort of spring rainstorm before the flood.
And this is really one of those shaping operations.
It's going to contribute to the fall of Kharkov and the movement further west and north by Russian forces in the area.
It's very clear right now that there are several things baking in the oven.
One is what I just described.
The other is coming south out of Byelorussia.
A potential build-up there, well actually it is a build-up.
And I think that they, at the right point in time, will sweep south and cut off Kiev.
By that time, most of these Russian troops should be further west.
Now, what's the point of all of this?
First of all, if you know that you're winning, and that is clearly the case with the Russians, what are you concerned about?
You're concerned about taking no unnecessary casualties.
So the emphasis on keeping Russian losses very low is probably greater now than at almost any point in this war.
Putin and his generals have been very, very concerned about the preservation of Russian life.
More so, I would argue, than any previous Russian or Soviet military establishment in living memory.
And right now, I think that continues to bother him.
At the same time, you've got to look at the maps, look at the road nets, look where the rail lines are, look at the rivers and streams, and then you'll see that these shaping attacks make sense.
So I think you're going to see something much larger and much faster in the near future.
Because he does want to wrap this up.
The question is, as he wraps this up, what occurs in Kiev?
Especially when it becomes clear that the Russians are headed down towards it from the north as also from the east.
I suspect we'll see Zelensky packing his bags and leaving.
Now, it's ironic because from the Western perspective, and I want to look at what, at least on the surface, appears to be almost contradictory information.
One thing may look like it's something positive for the Russian side, and another thing looks like it's on the negative side for the Russian.
For example, Bloomberg here published just a couple of days ago saying that Putin is really running out of time.
Because he's trying to achieve this breakthrough.
He made this incursion into the north part of the Kharkiv area on the 10th of May.
And the claim, at least on the western side, is that he has bogged down after getting about 10 kilometers in, in these two areas by Liptsi.
And folks, Chomsky will show that on the map in just a minute.
That it's bogged down, and now it's stopped.
and the flow of Western aid has started to come through.
Ukraine had a bunch of reinforcements that they moved up into the area and are now actually conducting limited counterattacks and are taking back some of the territory in the Volchonsk city itself.
How do you compare those things with the view that you just shared?
Well, I can confirm the validity of those reports.
I think there are several things at play here.
First, I would be very suspicious of any claims of Ukrainian advances anywhere.
What we get is evidence that Ukrainians are abandoning positions, abandoning defensive lines, abandoning villages, so that the Russians are not being compelled to fight very hard at all for any of it.
Secondly, the Russians continue to invite and want more Ukrainian forces to come north and go east.
The more they can bring up there, the easier it will be further south when they cross the Dnieper River.
So, the Russians have a lot of things on their minds at this point.
Now, as far as our weapons are concerned, keep the following in mind.
Chancellor Schultz, who is on very weak ground, obviously, has now made it very clear publicly, contradicting Macron directly, saying there will be no European ground forces in Ukraine under any circumstances.
So I think that's very important.
And whoever thinks the Ukrainians are gaining ground should keep that in mind.
Macron has now acknowledged this.
We are now admitting this.
So they're no longer concerned about a direct NATO military intervention on the ground.
They do look carefully at our air power.
That's something that is always in the backs of their minds and they are moving their integrated air defenses at every level forward very slowly, very deliberately to ensure that all of their forces in the field are protected.
But I think the notion that the aid that we are providing is somehow making a big impact is just ridiculous, unless you want to talk about the so-called strike systems that the Ukrainians are using against the civil population in Russia.
It's killing Russian civilians in various places, but that does nothing to retard Russian military power, but it does a great deal to stiffen opposition to the Ukrainians inside Russia.
Well, it depends.
I think it largely validates it because I know that the Russian General Staff wants very much to draw in whatever remains of the Ukrainian army that wants to fight.
They want to destroy it.
And by moving towards Kharkov in particular, they're facilitating it because what you don't see when you look at the mass of those troops are the enormous numbers of rocket artillery systems, tactical ballistic missiles, various drone batteries, all of which take their toll on the Ukrainians because the Ukrainians have practically no air defense whatsoever.
So this is from the Russian standpoint.
Thank you very much.
Continue to continue to arrive in great numbers, and we'll put an end to this sooner rather than later.
The Russians, as I said before, don't see any point in sacrificing any lives in any major assaults against prepared Ukrainian troops.
The other reports that keep coming in from Ukrainians that are out there fighting tell us that they know there's nothing behind them.
What I mean by that is that they know there are no defenses that they could fall back on.
This is a very serious and dangerous position to be in.
This happened to the Germans, by the way, towards the end of the war.
As they fell back, they couldn't prepare new defenses.
There was no time for it.
By the time they had established a weak defense line, within a few days, the Soviets arrived with overwhelming numbers.
So I think the Ukrainians are now in a very similar position there.
There's nothing behind them on the way to Kiev.
What might trigger this move?
Because I could also show you, and I wish I had loaded them up earlier, there's a number of videos that show large amounts of Russian armor in that area where that map was, where it showed these 200,000 actually up around between Sumy, Belgorod, Right there in the middle there, you see that the Kursk Oblast, Belgorod Oblast.
In those areas, there's been lots of videos of large armor formations that then basically disappear into the forest so that they can't be seen in large numbers.
But in order to attack, in order to launch something like this, there's going to have to be some kind of large movement at some point.
Do you have any sense of what might precipitate that?
No.
And you know, admittedly, there were times when I saw evidence for major offensive operations developing, only to be told it's not going to happen.
And the strategic defense, which was the cornerstone of Russian military operations, certainly for most of the first two years, remained unchanged.
I think you're going to see a change this summer.
I think they'd like to end this before the fall.
So my gut tells me that, you know, all of this positioning, all of these shaping attacks and massing of forces all indicates that that's in the offing.
One of the things I would be very careful not to believe Are these assertions once again from Western media?
Oh, the Russians are running out of ammunition.
Oh, the Russians are running out of equipment.
The Russians are running out of this.
How many times have we heard that, Dan?
That's just not right.
It's not true.
Now, Biden seems to be saying, hey, look, it's no big deal.
We're not talking about firing on the Kremlin.
We're just talking about firing a little bit north into the Russian side of the border here.
So it's no big deal.
Putin's not going to do anything.
What do you say to that?
First of all, the decision to allow strikes into Russia is not incentivizing anything.
It's an act of desperation, Dan.
We have no more cards to play unless we want to commit our air power.
And if we commit our air power, flown by US pilots, it's clear and unambiguous evidence that we're at war with Russia.
Everything changes immediately.
And we confront the reality that we could have tactical nuclear detonations At every major logistics base, airfield, airstrip from effectively Latvia all the way down to Romania.
So that's certainly not going to happen in my judgment.
But, you know, it's irrelevant.
These strikes are irrelevant.
They're not attacking military targets.
They are overwhelmingly attacking civilian targets in civilian areas, in neighborhoods, trying to kill Russians.
We don't seem to be telling the truth about that.
Of course, we're not telling the truth about much of anything either.
But nevertheless, I think we should keep that in mind.
As for underestimating or not taking President Putin seriously, we haven't taken the man seriously yet.
I mean, for 20 years, he'd been making abundantly clear what Moscow would or would not accept in Eastern Europe.
Would never accept Ukraine as a member of NATO.
Would not accept the presence of NATO forces on Ukrainian soil.
Would not tolerate Ukrainian, or excuse me, Western weapon systems, missiles, intelligence operations, or anything else, let alone bio labs, on Ukrainian soil.
And finally, he was pushed to the brink.
And before he intervened in Eastern Ukraine, he also provided a proposal that we wouldn't even look at.
You know, proposals at least deserve a look.
Proposals are the beginnings of diplomacy and negotiation.
We've never been willing to engage in either.
It's either our way or the highway.
So I think it's a lot of bluster and nonsense.
And it's not going to help matters.
It's not going to avoid our embarrassment.
It's not the way to avoid a war with Russia.
Well, I can tell you that the destruction of the European Union early warning... I think that Colonel McGregor's got it right.
That it's no way to avoid war with Russia.
And I wanted to play that long segment hoping that...
Russ Winter would be able to join us.
I've given him a message on Skype and I've sent him another message by Gmail, so we'll see if Russ is able to join or not.
Colonel McGregor, however, and that was a show dated today, 12 June 2024, is probably the world's best commentator on what's going on in Ukraine and the war there is probably the world's best commentator on what's going on in Scott Ritter is, of course, also excellent.
Colonel Wilkerson is quite good.
Larry Johnson is excellent.
I don't know if you have thoughts to add, Bill.
There's a very disturbing letter that Putin has sent to Greece—and I want to share this because I really think this tells it all—President Putin's message to the Greek people.
Do not get further involved in Ukraine.
The consequences will be tragic.
A message from Russian President Vladimir Putin to the Greek people, actually broadcast in Greek.
Was posted by the Russian embassy in Athens, both on the X platform and on Facebook.
In fact, showing the criticality of the situation in terms of military involvement of Greece and Ukraine, along with the rest of the NATO forces.
Now, Bill, you may or may not have seen these maps showing how NATO is going to invade Russia, because one of the access routes, and they include Finland, they include the Netherlands, they include Italy, they include Greece.
This is all ill-fated, but he's suggesting to the Greek people this is a very, very bad idea, because once the invasion begins, Russia is going to have to go all out to defeat it, and it's going to involve the obliteration of major portions of each of those nations, as well as, I have no doubt,
The UK, Brussels, Belgium, and a host of other NATO centers are like half a dozen NATO nuclear weapon depots scattered around three in Germany.
Those have to be among the very first targets.
The Russian president informs the Greeks of the tragic consequences a deepening of Greece's military involvement would have.
The representatives of NATO countries, especially in Europe, especially in the small countries, must know what they are playing with.
They must remember that they are usually states with a small territory and a very dense population.
And that's a factor they should keep in mind if we're talking about strikes deep into Russian soil.
This is a serious matter and, of course, we are following it very carefully.
The statement concerns military involvement of Greece and Ukraine in revelations that Ukraine F-16s will operate from the airports of Romania and Poland.
Moscow, knowing the situation will escalate and will be forced to strike bases in these two countries, is asking Greece to stay away from NATO's war plans.
Here's another note.
Russia.
NATO airports will become a legal target.
F-16 fighters in airfields outside of Ukraine will become a litigant target for Russian air forces, Andrei Kadyrov, head of the State Duma Defense Committee, told RIA Novosti.
According to the senator, this will happen if American-made aircraft take part in combat missions.
Moscow has warned NATO of this possibility.
If U.S.
fighters take off from Western bases and cause damage to the military and civilian infrastructure of the Russian Federation and return to their bases, the aircraft and airfields will be legitimate targets for Russian troops.
Have no doubt about it.
They will be legitimate targets.
Frankly, Bill, NATO is being so reckless here.
Let me throw in one more story, which I am sure is going to grab your attention.
This is Lindsey Graham popping up the real reason why the U.S.
is providing unlimited funding for the Russia-Ukraine war.
Here it is.
U.S.
Senator Lindsey Graham has become the first member of the Washington establishment to say the quiet part out loud regarding U.S.
funding of the war between Ukraine and Russia, which is really a war between the U.S., NATO, and Russia.
Ukraine is just NATO's proxy.
Speaking during an interview with CBS' Face the Nation Sunday, Senator Graham said, Washington cannot afford to allow Russia to achieve victory in the war with Ukraine as this would mean losing direct access to vast mineral wealth.
Graham accused Russian President Putin of being a megalomaniac who's attempting to recreate the Russian Empire by force of arms, starting with Ukraine, a favorite talking point of the Washington neocons, which has no basis in fact.
Graham then claimed that if Moscow wins the war, it'll proceed to take over Ukraine's wealth and share it with China.
Graham described that prospect as ridiculous, suggesting it would be better if this gold mine were claimed by the U.S.
and its allies.
They're sitting on $10-12 trillion of critical minerals in Ukraine.
They could be the richest country in all of Europe, if we help Ukraine now.
They can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of.
That $10-12 trillion of critical mineral assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin and China.
Here is Senator Graham Sainich.
What did Trump do to get the weapons flowing?
He created a loan system.
They're sitting on 10 to $12 trillion of critical minerals in Ukraine.
They could be the richest country in all of Europe.
I don't want to give that money and those assets to Putin to share with China.
If we help Ukraine now, they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of.
That 10 to 12 trillion dollars of critical mineral assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin and China.
This is a very big deal, how Ukraine ends.
Let's help them win a war we can't afford to lose.
Let's find a solution to this war.
But they're sitting on a gold mine to give Putin 10 or 12 trillion dollars of critical minerals that he will share with China is ridiculous.
Well, Bill, are you surprised that this has nothing to do with freedom and democracy?
We're constantly told we're fighting these fights for freedom and democracy wherever.
Whether it's in Vietnam, in Iraq, in Syria, what the hell?
This has nothing to do with freedom and democracy.
It's looting!
We're out to loot the natural resources of Ukraine.
Bill, are you surprised?
Well, it goes right along, doesn't it, Jim, with what Smedley Butler told us in War is a Racket, right?
What did he say?
He said he didn't start thinking for himself until he got out of the military, but he could have taught Al Capone a few things and ruled five boroughs.
He said he ruled five countries, basically the corporate thugs, the thumbnail version.
It's always that way, isn't it?
So either I look at it two ways, Jim, either everything that they're gaming out is going to happen.
And it's something that to be legitimately concerned about, right?
Put a pin in that or it's war gaming and fear mongering.
I don't know.
I mean, certainly you can induce a lot of trauma based mind control on people and with this whole narrative.
On the other hand, do they really want to go to nuclear war?
There's a deterrent.
Obviously, that's why we haven't seen a world war in that fashion, a nuclear.
So, I don't know.
I sit back and I look at Jim and I trust Colonel McGregor.
I think he's got a very balanced view on things.
But then I also have to objectively ask, okay, if you were going to strategically, tactically take out the early warning system for Russia, Then why would you not follow by taking advantage of that?
Or in other words, Jim, once you take it out, now you sit back and they have a chance to rebuild it, right?
And so what's the point of taking it out if you're not going to take advantage of that?
I don't have answers.
I just have questions.
You see what I'm saying, Jim?
There's no follow up.
It's like, you know, if you're playing sports and you're trying to set up a play, there's always things you do ahead of time.
And then but to not follow up, it's It's bizarre to me.
So, did we really take out the early warning system?
Are those the reports?
Is it true?
I have no idea, because you and I both know, over the many wars, we've been told many things.
We can come right back to you to explore your skepticism about reports we're hearing about the war.
And Russ Winter is joining us now.
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And now we return you to your host. - Well, I'm delighted that Russ Winter of Winter Watch has joined us now.
Russ, before your arrival, we reviewed a lengthy report by Colonel McGregor about the war in Ukraine, that the Russians basically are completely dominating, that they want to wrap it up this year, that Ukrainian lines are collapsing and they have no fallback position, they have no defense, there aren't even any reserves to send on the front lines.
So the question becomes, you know, how is the West gonna cope?
And he's suggesting launching these missiles into Russia as a sign of desperation, that they're having no military effect, but they're certainly strengthening the resolve of the Russian people to end this war.
Frankly, I think it's utterly risky and insane to allow those missiles to be launched, where Putin has responded by suggesting He could share Russian long-range missiles with other countries.
There's now, of course, a mini-flotilla for Russian ships in the Caribbean.
They appear to be making stops in Cuba, Venezuela.
I've even heard Mexico's open to the prospect of having some of these missiles stationed there.
It's astonishing as that sounds.
Now, Bill is expressing skepticism.
He's saying if they took out those Warning radar stations.
I personally don't have any doubt that was the case.
I have multiple sources to confirm it and photographs, but why did they not follow up?
Now, I could propose conjectures that saner minds may have intervened, but I'm very keen on getting your take.
I thought one of the more interesting things I spotted was Putin Basically stated in an appearance right on the air, you can see the translation, that he thinks he should send his very best missiles to the Houthis.
And he said, the Houthis are really good fighters and they are capable of sinking aircraft carriers.
Exactly what he said.
He's exactly right.
I mean, he doesn't mince words at all.
Now I can also give you a little perspective from the Ukraine side, because I have kind of ties with the Ukrainian community.
I have friends here from Ukraine.
And, you know, they've always been kind of, you know, very pro-Ukraine in the beginning.
But now what I'm hearing is that they're saying the Constitution in Ukraine is being destroyed, all their rights, all their liberties.
And I was kind of surprised that they took their constitutional rights pretty seriously.
And so there's a lot of complaining going on within the Ukraine of snapping up women off the streets, taking men and putting them into service.
So I think within Ukraine itself, the people have had enough.
We don't hear that mentioned too often.
Yeah, there's a story today that Zelensky's putting out a call for all Ukrainians abroad to return to Ukraine so he can put them on the front line.
I don't think he's going to get an enthusiastic response to that entreaty.
Bill, your thoughts, and go ahead, elaborate your wag the dog theory.
I'm just, ever since I was born, 1960, I've learned we've been lied into every war, and lied about war, and there's been a ton of propaganda, so I'm just skeptical.
But Russ, my point was, as Jim reiterated, okay, if they took out the early warning system, Jim says he has confirmation, What would be the point of taking that out and then just sitting back and letting it be rebuilt?
It's counterproductive.
Unless you just want to send a message, we can hit it, I suppose.
We know that JPMorgan and BlackRock talk about financing the rebuilding of Ukraine, and we know it is a... Well, these wars are funded by both sides, right?
At least that's my understanding.
How much damage you want to cause to do that rebuilding and how many people they're willing to kill?
I don't have a crystal ball, you know?
I don't know.
As far as Lindsey Graham, I mean, he's always the war hawk, saying the most outlandish things that make no sense whatsoever, even from a strategic point of view.
So I really don't take him seriously.
I just hear a lot of trying to instill fear and all that into the populace and keep us On eggshells, but I'm not a military veteran.
I'm just like you and I went back and forth this morning.
We're going to talk about what we saw in Gaza.
I'm just sitting back looking at things trying to interpret them and bouncing off guys like that.
Russ, what Bill is talking about is I also shared two other stories.
One, a letter from Putin to the Greek people suggesting they don't want to get involved with NATO because the consequences could be tragic.
And personally, I think this is a cultural thing.
I mean, Western civilization historically is rooted in Greece and Athens, you know, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle.
I mean, the intellectual legacy here is profound.
And I think he's just musing on the great tragedy that if Greece Well, we now see a plan.
NATO is talking about six different ways of attacking Russia, one of which is coming from Greece, another from Italy, another from Norway.
I mean, you know, this is all ludicrous because Russia is going to have to take him out and has the capability of taking him out.
But the further point he's making, Lindsey Graham was on Face the Nation on Sunday.
And said, really, the whole fight is over 10 to 12 trillion in mineral assets in Ukraine.
I mean, he was oddly saying, we're really fighting this war to loot them, you know, to loot the nation, which is a more candid statement than we typically get.
Your thoughts, all of the above.
Well, the other thing I'd mentioned is that the NATO meeting, the big powwow, where they were talking about these strategies of essentially moving on Russia, was held in Prague.
And this country has got themselves, I think, I shouldn't say it because I'm kind of a guest in this country, but they've kind of got themselves pretty locked into the West and the NATO narrative.
And last weekend, there was a terror alert here.
A lot of rumors and a lot of stories going around of terrorist attacks in Prague.
And I think that that could be Russian.
Russian could be, you know, putting some pressure on this country.
I mean, it would be consistent with what they said about sinking aircraft carriers using Houthis.
So I don't think they're empty threats.
I think they're pounding the drums.
You know, I don't know the grand purpose of it all.
You know, the spoils of Ukraine seems to be in the cards.
But like I say, I don't think the Ukrainian people support this war anymore.
They don't have the popular support they once did.
I'm sure you've heard the declaration from Rothschild sources that the New World Order cannot move forward without Ukraine, that they must have Ukraine at all costs, that they're, of course, willing to expand the United States and would perhaps even like Yeah, there's a lot of Messianic stuff going on.
in the U.S., where Israel is supposed to emerge as the new superpower and leader of the world to govern what remains from Jerusalem.
Yeah, there's a lot of messianic stuff going on.
I didn't used to pay much attention to messianic prophecies.
I'm not into that kind of stuff.
But I think that the people running Israel right now have a messianic agenda that includes war and apocalypse and I mean, they have no fear of any of this stuff.
They're captured.
The messianic nut wings have captured Israel.
So anything could happen in those circumstances.
People need to really distance themselves from that particular country.
I couldn't agree more.
And of course, since the Houthis have actually declared war on Israel, I think it would be sensational if Putin were to give the Houthis whistles they could hit Israel.
That would be just... I was talking with... I was exchanging some messages with Bill earlier, and my contention is that Israel is losing this war.
And I don't think it's being widely reported.
I sent a, I kind of sent a very good video by a guy named Richard Med, what is his name?
Medbush?
Medbush?
That really details some of the recent events that are going on, particularly in the Hezbollah front.
And the Hezbollah is kicking, starting to really kick their ass.
They've, over the last eight months, they have attrited the Eyes and ears of the Israelis, you know, destroying the communications, just one after another, just patiently over six, eight months.
And at this particular point in time, the Israelis are really weak on their eyes and ears covering that country.
It's like a big channel has been developed that Hezbollah can exploit.
So they're in big trouble.
I don't know if you're hearing anything like that because it's not being reported in the Western media.
Right now, that's an overwhelming propaganda pro-Israel all the way.
I'm very disturbed about Trump's seeming enthusiasm for the genocide to which I want to return, but Hezbollah is over 10 times more powerful than Hamas.
So if Israel can't even handle Hamas, it certainly is going to be overmatched with Hezbollah.
And Hezbollah's been supplied, and I knew it would happen.
I was kind of talking about this early on in some of my conversations I've had about this war.
I predicted that the Hezbollah would end up with the very best ground-to-air missiles available, and they clearly have it.
They've got it probably from the Russians, and certainly from the Iranians.
So they're sitting there with some ability to really start taking down these aircraft flying over.
They're not going to have free reign over the skies of Lebanon.
Yeah, a lot of people said that Putin didn't do more to protect Syria from Israeli air attacks.
Some have even suggested he was kind of silently cooperating with the Israelis, which I don't like that thought whatsoever.
I mean, after all, it was Russian intervention of Russian troops and Iranian that stopped You know, the assault on Syria to protect the government of Bashar al-Assad, who actually is a democratically elected president of Syria.
So we couldn't have ever been in Syria to bring freedom and democracy to Syria, because Syria is already a democracy.
In fact, Assad enjoys far more support than recent American president, absent, say, W, shortly after 9-11, before We began to figure out what the hell had really happened there.
We had to steal the election of 2000 to get in and bring us 9-11 and the Patriot Act.
I mean, the consequences have been immense, Russ.
Yeah, I think that, uh, I think Russia's just fine with letting Israel drag the United States down the toilet.
We seem to be all in.
I mean, how absurd is it for Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, to invite Benjamin Netanyahu, the genocidal maniac, to address Congress on July 24th?
The date has even been set, Russ.
I mean, this is nauseating.
You can't make it up.
You just can't make it up.
You really can't.
It's just almost incredible.
And probably the Russians are fine with that, too, because it just And they're fine with the senility of Biden and his behaviors.
It's just, he couldn't write a better script.
So the question is, and I'll throw it at Bill, who's behind it all?
What's driving all this stuff?
It's more than just theater.
This is major stuff, because it impacts the views of the whole world, the whole world's attitude towards the United States, towards Europe, towards Israel.
And it's major isolation.
I mean, whoever's doing it has really got themselves a great project going.
But maybe it's just all self-inflicted.
Yeah.
Well, I think we have...
My reference point is the Rockefeller 1956 Strategic Studies Project, Rockefeller Brothers, which became the Prospect for America, which I shared with Jim, which kind of lays out the future of the multipolar world and how they're going to go about it.
Very interesting.
I don't know if you've seen that, Russ, I could forward it to you at some point we could talk about in the future.
Give us a thumbnail, Bill.
Basically, BRICS has been all gamed out.
The future, of course, in landmass and population for expanding markets, because it's all about markets, transnational corporatocracy, is basically Asia, India, China, growing economies and developing economies.
Where's the U.S.?
As far as they're concerned, they're finished with us bringing the undocumented to do the menial jobs, take over any, crush the unions, take over obviously everything we've seen, jobs that Americans may have, they don't now.
The outsourcing, we had the trade agreements which followed, of course, the NAFTA, Beijing Free Trade Agreement, I'm just, I know you guys know this, Asian Free Trade Agreement, Trans-Pacific Pact, so that was bipartisan.
And so it's all about shifting the manufacturing away, where it can be done much cheaper, obviously.
And where there's, I mean, we have a lot of resources here, for sure, still available, but there's a ton of resources available all in that land that they're looking to acquire.
It seems to be they've got it all gamed out, and they just keep plodding along.
So the bankers meet in Rihad, you know, with the Saudis, and they're all working together, it seems.
When you say, who's they?
I mean, who's doing the sabotage?
Because that's what we're talking about.
I mean, there's a progression, obviously, towards the Global South.
I mean, the population is there.
That's almost kind of a natural process.
What I'm really talking about is the sabotage of America, in particular, and Israel, and all these weird, in the Ukraine story, just a lot of crazy leadership.
That makes no sense in terms of powering your country forward or having a decent life for your people.
So the aspect I really agree with on your assessment, but I would add one thing to it, and you probably would add this as well.
It's all about creating a slave plantation.
Finding slave labor somewhere.
Rush, is business going to become a thing of the past?
Are we just returning to feudal times where we have the rich in their castles and the rest are serfs and slaves toiling in the fields?
Yep.
Business gone?
Is there no commerce?
Are there no consumers and no manufacturing?
I mean, what happens?
This is something that's always puzzled me about the depopulation agenda.
If you get rid of all the people, who's going to buy your product?
Well, they're basically, of course, saying there aren't the resources for all these people.
There certainly aren't the resources for fat, rich Americans.
They consume an awful lot of the resources of the world, but they're not very democratic about it.
They're kind of brutal and sadistic types that are running this stuff.
They don't seem to have any empathy for anybody.
Is there going to be no industry?
Is it all going to go away?
I mean, and AI, you know.
What the hell?
Talking about replacing human beings as workers with AIs on assembly line.
Who's going to buy the products?
What's the point of it all?
I am frankly baffled.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
It's all about the castles on the hill.
That's all that really matters.
Everybody else is just serfs.
David Icke was the first to make this observation on the eve of the COVID pandemic that was the idea to wipe out the middle class and return to a feudal society.
And Russ, so far as I can see, he had it exactly right.
I know.
I mean, I used to kind of scoff at him a little bit, but yeah.
And the maceionic thing.
this messianic thing in there, which is some kind of a curveball to maybe accelerate the process through war.
Are they going to start dropping nuclear bombs?
Like is Prague a target for a nuclear attack from the Russians because of their involvement with NATO and their cheerleading for all this stuff?
Or maybe Budapest will get a pass.
Maybe Bratislava will get a pass because they're a little more neutral.
But like Warsaw and Berlin.
I mean, it could be a horrendous mess.
Bill, your thoughts about the immediate future?
What's going to happen here?
And you can spill over into the American politics, you know, the situation here, which is bizarre beyond words as well.
Well, I mean, I compare it, you've all know Harari, when he's been interviewed with Wang, they were basically talking about universal basic income, a meta universe and drugs for the masses.
Uh, because he, of course, even when you've all had hair, he used to refer to the rest of us as the useless eaters.
But that wasn't too palatable for us.
And now it's the useless workers.
And then it's transitioned to, oh, you know, well, there'll be a universal basic income as AI continues to take more jobs to have the buying power you're talking about, Jim.
And then what will people do with all their time?
He said, well, the best we can figure is the meta universe and drugs.
He literally said that.
And the prediction is by 2050, yeah.
The man of persons, right?
That's what he said, Jim!
You know, he's the... I'm very proud of his young global leaders, of course, we have to remember that, and who's really running the show, who have penetrated the world governments, and you get a little, you have all the evil sidekicks, like in the movie, Dr. Evil and his little sidekick, kind of at his side, hurting what their plans are,
You know, that you'll have no privacy, the days of your thoughts between you and your God are over, and it's just absolute insanity, the transhumanism agenda, central bank digital currency, the UN agenda through the World Health Organization to hijack our sovereign rights to even our countries and our bodies.
But, you know, the best way to do all this is war.
I mean, war is like a big, you know, really shakes things up.
So that's the big fear.
A big war.
It's true, Russ.
And of course, we know the Georgia Guidestones talk about getting us down to 500 million, but that would be wiping out 7.5 billion.
I don't think it's ever going to go there.
I think that's part of the trauma-based mind control.
And then they destroyed it to make an issue of it.
They're always about trying to instill fear and trauma, so my only... I don't know... I don't have any teelies.
I'm looking at all in the madness and going, how far are they really gonna go, Russ?
I have no idea.
People probably scoff at us for being so-called conspiracy theorists, but you're basically... they're saying it in their own words.
Are you really, folks, you're really going to just ignore all this and pretend it's not really happening, or these people have no sway?
I mean, look at how the world is progressing.
So yeah, right now at the moment, my concern is war.
I mean, even living in Europe, I'm kind of nervous.
I mean, I've never felt that way before.
Are you in Prague, actually, Russ?
Is that where you are?
Yeah.
I've heard great things about Prague.
I had a friend who lived there.
They're just getting too involved in this anti-Russian stuff, and I don't think the Russians are screwing around anymore.
It's kind of fuck around and find out time.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, what's the view from Prague about American politics?
I mean, you got Biden going to Normandy and pooping in his pants.
I mean, it's just insane.
And the guy's obviously cognitively incompetent.
It turns out that when he was interviewed about the classified docs, they had to Edit the transcript, because he had so many pauses, mental lapses, he would have come across so idiotic.
They don't want to release the actual videotapes, but they're being called out on it by Judicial Watch.
I don't see how they can possibly have Biden on the ticket.
I mean, nobody, nobody has any confidence in the guy whatsoever.
How could they do it?
Yeah, it just ties into this chaos theory that we're talking about.
I mean, really?
Yeah, he's just...
It's impossible.
You got 300 million people in the United States and the only thing you can come up with is Trump and Biden?
I know!
I know!
It's a humiliation ritual.
All this stuff is a humiliation ritual.
Just non-stop humiliation rituals in your face.
On numerous fronts.
And the Biden-Trump thing is a biggie.
And Trump's gonna be clown-like too.
You watch.
Clown-like?
Clown-like, is that what you said, Russ?
Clown-like.
Yeah, clown-like.
There are other Democrats who are saying he's going to be a tyrant, that he's going to wreak revenge, he's going to send people to jail.
Haven't they noticed that's what Biden's been doing?
I mean, it's ridiculous, you know?
You know, I've said before, on my last talk with you, I said that I think that Trump is going to set up a Zionist police state.
I'm apprehensive that you may be onto something, Russ.
I mean, that's a pretty damn disturbing thought, but he's been so critical of the student anti-genocide protests.
I mean, what could be more appropriate than for students to protest genocide?
And yet he's condemning them!
He's saying they're all pro-Hamas!
And Columbia, do you know Columbia now is going to have a special escort for Jewish students?
No one even knew who the hell were the Jewish students at Columbia, even though there are a lot of them.
But now they're going to have their own personal safety escort?
How absurd is that?
Good God.
Yeah, and you know, it's more grifting.
It's just more money and grifting and, you know, panning around security.
Contracts to certain privileged people including the people on the hills and the castles so that it's just an indication of what's to come security, you know security for the rest of us and suppression and Certainly can't speak your mind about anything decent or proper on anything genocide So, I mean, it's past the time to just ignore what these people are saying.
You know, coming out of Trump's mouth, what little comes out of Biden's mouth.
It's just time to quit ignoring that and take it seriously.
Bill?
Yeah, Bill?
Well, I agree with you both.
It's hard to set up predictive programming with Leslie Nielsen in Scary Movie, and then the lady Dreyfuss playing Veep.
And then we actually have the Stooge president and the Stooge vice president.
You know, I'm talking about the movie and the TV show.
It's like they mirror it, exactly.
We're hitting a break, Bill, and Russ will be right back with Russ Winter and Bill Bonatati.
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- Revolution Radio, freedomflips.com, 100% listener supported radio, and now we return you to your host. - Well, just following up on your suggestion, just following up on your suggestion, Russ, Trump does seem to have a long history of involvement with Jewish activities
His dad gave some land for a synagogue or some sort of Jewish monument.
He's got lots of relatives.
His mother was reported to be Jewish.
I mean, There are supposed to have been ceremonies where he was being crowned as the King of the Jews.
I mean, you're probably familiar more with this than am I, but I'm telling you, what would this Zionist police state look like?
Clearly, the First Amendment would be dead as far as any discussion of Israel is concerned.
He's already made the most outrageous statements on that.
I just, I find it repulsive.
Well, I mean, you know, if you criticize a certain country, Israel, for committing a genocide, then that's anti-Semitism under Trump's way of thinking, and you're in trouble.
You're on some shit list, and that's happening right now.
So once again, staring us right in the face, it's happening.
And so Trump is just going to institute it, I think, a degree further.
I don't know if his followers are picking up on this.
I mean, you know, it hit me like a silver bullet when he went on Hannity.
This is now two months ago.
It was damning the students and talking about the genocide.
Now it's a, it's a, it's a messy job, but it's gotta be done.
And he was only encouraging him to slaughter the Palestinians faster.
That was, it's got a blade rush.
Well, I'll tell you what, I never thought I would say it, but I think a lot of the hope lies in these younger people, these young people that are using social media, they're outside the umbrella of the Zionist or Jewish-controlled media.
The boomers, I mean, I'm a boomer, I have to admit it, I mean, what a bunch of cows!
What a bunch of friggin' cows!
What's wrong with you people?
What's wrong with my generation?
Disgusting!
I hate to say it, I've kind of evolved on that issue too.
I've just discussed it with the older generations and the way they're just tied into predictive programming, like Bill says, or the Sean Hannity's and all the hacks that lead them around by the nose.
Disgusting.
So maybe there'll be an uprising involving the younger generation.
And of course, they could be co-opted.
They could be co-opted, and then you end up getting sort of a leftist agenda going, which has its own dangers.
Well, all the woke stopped at transgender, you know, putting criminals out on the street.
That got old very fast.
I think the repudiation going on in Europe, we have Shultz and Macron losing to right-wing candidates like Le Pen.
All that I find very promising and encouraging.
Bill, what are the signs you see for the future of politics right here in the USA?
Well, take one quick step back.
We got the bumbling idiot who could be a stand-in, by the way, or multiple for Biden.
It may not even be him.
It certainly doesn't look like him at times to me.
And then you got the bumbling vice president.
But then that gives, you see, now Trump is the hero.
You see, they made him out to be the great martyr with the indictments, and now he's going to expose how corrupt the DOJ is and the FBI.
It's all a play, in my opinion, because the tanker's going to, yeah, Russ, right?
The banksters are really pulling the strings, and they got all the puppeteers beneath them, and they want us to be divided against one another.
Red, blue, color-wise, social issues, whatever.
Keep us fighting against one another.
We know that's their game.
It's been that way all along.
Now, Trump, obviously, if you look at the money behind him, the big money behind him is Jewish, right?
And there's no mistaking that.
Yeah, Sheldon Adelson's Miriam Adelson, the big donor, you know, one big Jewish donor.
That apparently comes with a contingency that that's to support the annexation of the West Bank as part of Israel.
How can you do that?
I mean, it's so blatant!
God!
You've got some widow whose husband made his money through vice and gambling, who's got so much power in the United States that she can write a huge checkout And buy a president, and then direct him through a bunch of other minions and crap that they got in the background, including probably a bunch of masonic types, to set up a Zionist police state.
You don't think Miriam Adelson's not interested in that?
Hell yes!
Bill, go ahead.
You've got to control the Goyim and the anti-Semites, you know.
You've got to really get them on a plantation.
You and Russ seem to be very much on the same wavelength here, Bill.
Elaborate further your thoughts.
Bill.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you for recalling her name.
I knew it was Adele.
I couldn't remember.
So you nailed it, Russ.
I had to put Iran in there, too.
So anyway, proceed.
Well, there appears to be with Iran, like, rules of engagement.
You know what I mean by that?
In other words, they really didn't do any deadly strike after we killed Soleimani.
I mean, there was some property destroyed, it appeared.
Appeals to be some rules of engagement and financing backing them up, too.
But what I'm getting at is, also, don't forget, Jim, if this goes forward under Trump, you and I could be criminalized for denying the Holocaust!
Oh, look, I take it for granted.
Our days are numbered.
Hey Jim, hopefully they'll put us back in the same psych ward.
I already spent two months in one, you know that, right?
Retrial and I got arrested repeatedly.
So, anyway.
Yeah.
And so that's another thing.
They weaponized psychiatry.
That's the game plan.
We'll be crazy, just like the doctors in Canada and whoever, that they weaponized psychiatry.
We're talking the truth about the plandemic.
You know, we heard about that and Dr. Bregen.
So it's all coordinated to use the absolute most draconian tactics.
October 7th, Trump mentioned he bulldozed in with the Holocaust.
Going to that real quick, which when you tell me when you're ready to segue to Gaza, It's October 7th.
There's so many false flags in that.
If I rapped into the whole thing and what we're seeing now, there's so much mixed...
It's a mixed bag, you know?
I don't have all the answers, but Russ and I were going back and forth about that a little bit.
But the idea to criminalize anybody for speaking their thoughts about it, or law for them like they did you on Sandy Hook, it's just more of the same.
It's all about control, squeezing down the narrative to what you can and can't say without being attacked, either civilly or criminally.
Yeah, the other element, particularly like Trump and his trial, is that it's all about victimhood and getting people to feel sorry for you, you know, and running these narratives.
I mean, of course Trump's being subjected to lawfare.
It's kind of a ridiculous case.
It is.
But it's designed to get sympathy for him so that everybody kind of feels sorry for him, and then he can sneak in his left punch and put you under a Miriam Adelson-run Zionist police state.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Precisely.
That's the way I see it, and I think it's very self-evident for those of us who have, you know, been around it a little bit.
And not to mention, he also said, there is no separation between us, the United States, and he said, and the State of Israel, that they're like our next, one of our states.
Literally, no separation, he said, between us and Israel.
Is there going to be an imposition of A Jewish elite in America then, you know, like two tiers in society, and everyone has to defer to the Jews, as in Colombia, where now all the Jewish students are getting security escorts.
I mean, this is insanity!
No one on college campuses cared whether anyone were Jewish or not.
No one gave a damn!
And they're protesting Jewishness, they're protesting genocide, they're protesting mass murder!
Well, there's a lot of grift.
That kind of thing is grifting.
I mean, it's all about the money.
You know, money, money, money.
Everything is about the money and grifting.
It's just a big giant grift.
You know, now they're finally coming down on Fauci a little bit for his grifting activities.
Maybe they'll throw him under the bus.
I mean, what do you guys think about that one?
Are they going to give everybody a little bone on that one?
What's Trump's involvement in that?
Is Trump going to make it all go away?
You mean the COVID Warp Speedo that gives Fauci a pardon or something like that?
That would be quite a reach.
I don't think that will happen.
There's more and more evidence.
We got the former VP of Pfizer saying that the vaccine was deliberately designed to kill and maim people.
Deliberately designed to do that.
We all knew it was having that effect.
We all inferred it.
But here's a guy who's an expert confirming.
And you got the leading scientist on cancer in Japan saying this is a lethal gem.
Yeah, just confirming the worst.
Yeah, even those of us that were highly skeptical talking about this, and then fast forward and it's just confirming the ultimate ritual humiliation, just ultimate ritual humiliation that we've screwed you guys by releasing, probably deliberately, this I think the virus thing was a complete scam, you know.
John Raab and Edward Henry were very good at pointing out there were 38 million cases of the flu the day before then it dropped to 2,000 and there are suddenly 37,998,000 of the I mean, you know, it was just relabeling!
It was insulting!
Yeah, it's weird the way they did it, because when I got whatever it was a few years ago, in January, I go in and I get a test, they jammed my nose, which is more ritual humiliation, and then They actually identified this some kind of Zimbabwe type thing.
They called it COVID.
You had the Zimbabwe variant?
Yeah, exactly.
They called it COVID and everything else.
I was sick.
Whatever I got, I made me sick.
I think it was Zimbabwe who had them test goats and oil and all that.
Did the oil and goats have COVID too?
I mean, it was ridiculous.
Yeah, where'd they slip Zimbabwe in?
The presidents who were exposing the fraud wind up very, very dead.
Very dead.
Just disgusting.
As you talk about, you know, billions at stake.
I mean, the pharmaceutical companies have made staggering sums.
Yeah, Jewish grifting is what it is.
Well, Commandant, there's another thing here.
You mentioned the doctors.
They knocked off Dr. Carey Mullis, apparently from a respiratory illness, supposedly a Nobel Prize winning scientist who created PCR.
And he said basically, right, that was to do what?
Just to create more DNA in the lab so they can test, use it to test.
It's not even a diagnostic tool, right?
So you can't diagnose the disease with it, and if you amplify it enough times, you cycle enough times, we all have the same DNA, all living things.
That's why, like Jim said, you can test whatever you want.
They run that cycle to beyond threshold and everybody's positive.
And then they throw people on remdesivir, which is a renal failure drug, intubate them, they get renal collapse, the lungs fill up with fluid, and you're You're gone, like what happened to Robert David Steele.
So you also had Luc Montagnier, another Nobel Prize winning scientist, who talked about all this.
And back in HIV, he said mostly that's a mineral deficiency.
If you have enough magnesium selenium, and you can find this in the NIH, National Institute of Health PubMed, it's that the people were deficient in magnesium selenium that the HIV turned to AIDS.
And that's right in PubMed, NIH.
I studied that.
My father used to sell us for seropharmaceutical.
So I've been diving into the medical journals, the antibiotic journal, NIH, American Journal of Therapeutics throughout this, which got me kicked off Fablebook, of course, for revealing all that.
And so you're right, but when you think about these monsters, Did all that.
They crushed small businesses and major wealth transfer to the rich.
As RFK Jr.
said, millions of small businesses closed around all America.
Meanwhile, if you think about it, going into a megastore where everybody's shopping in its central air versus little markets with people waiting outside or people who could Which is going to spread a contagion more?
Do you see what I'm saying?
The whole thing was counter to what you might do if you had a real pandemic.
And then Dr. Michael Yeadon is a former CEO of Pfizer, I think who Jim's referring to, who's been talking about this for years, about this whole thing, a whole con job, and that it was all bioweapons.
Michael Yeadon, I know he's been saying it.
He was with Pfizer.
And he was a doctor, unlike Berlo, who was a veterinarian.
Right?
So, the whole thing is more humiliation, more control, more trauma, even, you know, instilling the fear of world wars.
That's how you control people.
That's Yuri Bezumov, right?
Which is the moralized crisis, destabilized cycle to where you control the masses that way.
And so, but now, whenever you're ready, Jim, there's a This is what happened October 7th.
I mean, the psyop on that one is so huge and what spawned out of it.
Yeah, Tom was on the air saying there are people telling me October 7th wasn't real and he can't get his mind wrapped around it.
I mean, it's just absurd.
Of course it was all fraud.
You have a wonderful argument about it, Bill, regarding the loader and all that, where you were qualified with this heavy equipment, and there's no way they could have taken down that very substantial fence with the equipment they reported to have been used to do it.
It was just ridiculous!
You have made the case again and again.
Yeah, and how about the flying lawnmowers flying around?
Exactly.
Right, right.
And we had Victor Hugo on, as I was talking about.
That's a loader, by the way.
I was started by the Caterpillar.
Operate four pieces of equipment, one being a loader dozer.
And it's a rubber tire loader.
You can't cut a fence with a loader.
That fence was cut.
The motor operator pushed that, it's a heavy-duty fence, pushed it around.
On the other side already, if you look at the one video we have, there's already street motorcycles already on the other side, as he's supposedly opening up the way.
How the hell in the street?
They had pickup trucks on the other side!
Yeah, yeah!
And the guys are coming back!
A few of them had any weapons at all, right?
Well, none had their face covered, which you know about.
Drive their vehicles, you know, right up to the fence and start picking some guys up.
You know, my theory on this is that they, you know, there's a lot of Arab types, you know, street merchants that the Israelis have corralled and pretty much created a unit.
I think they went in there and infiltrated Hamas, certain units, and probably 95% of the real Hamas had no idea what happened.
They infiltrated a unit of them and Let them in.
Just let them in the fence.
And people really aren't talking about this nearly enough.
Because that's really ugly stuff.
To justify what Israel has done based upon this operation is sickening.
It's very sinister and very satanic.
Yeah, can I add a couple more quick things, Jim?
So now beyond the fence brush, you have a 20-foot reinforced wall.
And I can tell you, not even a dozer, a D-6, would be able to knock that over in any way.
You would end up spinning your tracks.
You lose traction at one point against a formidable wall like that.
That's what I see.
And so you'd have to destroy it with some type of artillery fire, like Jim would know.
And then you can start.
Now there's no surveillance footage or any forensic evidence of that wall beyond the fence being taken down in any one spot, let alone 15.
So they must, along that 25 mile border, have obviously armed gates where the IOF or IDF, however you want to say, can get through when they needed to do operations.
So did they let those people through?
Literally?
Because there's no way they took that wall down.
I mean, at least 9-11, although we disagree with the NIST narrative, we see the destruction of the towers and six other buildings.
We have no evidence.
One piece of evidence is that wall being destroyed, Russ.
I've never seen it anywhere.
I asked people when I went into X spaces who were in Palestinian groups, and it was crickets.
I was like, do you guys have anything I haven't found?
Is there some video somewhere?
No one spoke a word.
All right.
Now, then who was on the other side of the wall?
Was that ISIS actors?
Was the whole thing contrived like a big movie set?
I don't know.
I'm looking at it going, wait, whoa, whoa.
I'll tell you one thing.
I think that if any real Hamas were involved, which there might have been some that were infiltrated, they're dead.
Yeah.
There's no eyewitnesses.
Trust me on that.
Trust me on that.
There are no eyewitnesses to what happened.
Yeah.
So, it's all very suspect.
We got a former IDF saying the whole thing is preposterous.
You know, if a pigeon crapped on the wall, the Israelis were out in force.
The idea of penetrating at over a dozen different locations is just frankly absurd.
It was not technically possible.
It could have happened as claimed.
And the Apache helicopters, they could see from the wall, it's only six miles to the ocean, with all the surveillance capability and our surveillance base right in the middle of Israel, the Apache helicopters at 249 miles an hour or whatever, we're two and a half minutes away once they got into them.
And it took hours and hours and hours and hours, not to mention you had all these sedans left behind, Jim and Russ, like as if they're in a parking lot, like no one tried to drive away and all those hours you're gonna leave your car there.
If this was really happening, you got far many, many people.
So how did they get to the other side of the wall?
Who's on the other side of the wall?
What really happened?
We have no idea.
But you still have the mainstream media in the Biden administration talking about mass rape.
And of course, Babies in incubators, you still hear that.
I'm sorry, babies in ovens sometimes even gets thrown around.
Well, they may, you know, they may have sent these fake Hamas guys in to do some mayhem.
I don't doubt that.
You know, but they're agents, Israeli agents.
And then, you know, they send the Apache helicopters up, and of course I covered that in my presentation last December on Jim's conference.
You know, cover the effectiveness of those Apache helicopters, how they could kind of skirt around and just shoot up everything, shoot up anything you want.
So yeah, they probably were 1,200 people were killed in some manner, but by who?
Oh, yeah.
It was the Israelis.
They wanted to run up the numbers to have a greater justification for the mass murder of the Palestinians, which was the agenda, always from the beginning.
Yeah, we've got some strange, sinister, satanic, messianic types running the show.
And, you know, their government's breaking down.
This one guy, what's his name, you know, stepped down.
The so-called moderate of the group.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That just really leaves the messianic types in charge.
Right.
It's up in Galahad.
Might join him in the, you know.
There's no doubt Netanyahu's days are numbered.
Colonel McGregor is also talking about that.
If it weren't for the war, he would have been long since indicted, incarcerated, out of politics forever.
Hey Jim, Russ sent a video today I watched.
Russ, can you Can Jim share that?
Can you set it up during the break?
The one that shows the 2,000-pound bomb, the fireball, and with the video, then what the actual... You can pull it off of your DM, so if you want to go to the DM where I sent it to you, can you... Yeah.
Can you grab it?
I could email it to Jim, but I don't... I can't really play it, like, through my phone, I don't think.
I don't... We gotta get it to Jim somehow.
Go ahead.
Email it to me.
We may not get it on this show, but I'll plug it in, you know, we'll get it up.
It's a very short clip.
As we're approaching the break, I'm going to open the line for callers, a number to call in, talk to Russ Winter, Bill Bonitotti and me about any of these things.
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Russ is Well, has until now, say, I've late been enjoying the good life, but things are a bit uneasy today, Russ.
I take it you're not feeling so comfortable.
No.
Oh, by the way, I'm going to send some of these videos to you through your ex-account, DM.
But I think you have to accept me.
I don't think you've ever accepted me as a correspondent.
I'm not sure.
Well, my email is open.
No, not email.
Text.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
You mean as a follower?
It's called direct message, right?
I just sent you your direct message.
I sent you this link.
I'll figure it out, Russ.
I'll figure it out.
There's only a couple of them.
Maybe we can go through some of this.
Well, I think Trump is a shoo-in for a landslide.
He's getting these enormous turnouts everywhere it goes.
Las Vegas, even the Bronx, even in deep blue states, people are turning out in massive numbers, and everyone despises Biden.
Nobody gets a toot about this guy for all good reasons.
The Democrats talk about nothing but Trump.
It's all anti-Trump 24-7.
It's just bizarre.
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Well, we have a couple of callers on the line, regular callers, 816-BARC.
Brian, is that you, my friend?
It's me.
Yeah, just something that happens to me I want to get everybody's opinion on.
You know, I like to go to all those other, you know, news sites and get information.
And I think it was even South Front Press, where they had a post by a Ukrainian businessman.
And he said, well, I can't run my business anymore.
I'm going to have to lay off all my employees because they only have power two hours a day and I don't know when those two hours are going to be.
So how can I have my employees come in?
They're going to be upset, but I'm going to have to lay everybody off.
And then I thought about it.
I was reading today how, you know, the Rutgers have their offensive going in the north and they're in the Sumi region now.
And that the Ukrainians have just killed all the power to that region because they don't want any information to get out.
And then I think about it.
To me, it's almost like an EMT pulse.
You get the same effect because if you've got all these businesses that can't operate, you don't have any electricity for sewage treatment, to pump water.
You know, how, what do you do with your refrigeration?
You know, If this is going on all over Ukraine, I'm surprised it's not in the Stone Age now, and I'm just baffled by that.
So, anyone want to make comments on that?
Russ?
Well, I mean, I know for a fact they're turning the electricity off, off and on all day.
I don't really have the answer to that.
I know Russia recently hit one of their major power stations that took out power for about 60% of the country, Brian.
So, I mean, Russia has by and large laid off of infrastructure.
I think it technically qualifies as a war crime, but the atrocities committed by the Ukrainians are just as the Israelis You know, Hamas are angels and saints compared to the Israelis, and the Russians are totally virtuous compared to the merciless Ukrainians who have performed all kinds of atrocities.
We got another caller here.
This is 408.
I think it's Paul.
Paul, join the conversation.
By the way, I sent you the items to your DM, Jim.
Thanks, Russ.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Paul.
Yeah, so that was an enjoyable discussion between the three of you for the hour and a half or so.
Yeah, you made a statement earlier, Jim, about, you know, when the tyrannical, you know, right wing, you know, Zionist state is implemented, you know, by Trump and others, that your days are numbered.
And yeah, I just wanted to let you know that I've already been in contact with the Deep State and I volunteered myself to put the handcuffs on you.
What a guy!
You ought to be the hero.
Nice, Paul.
Nice.
I look forward to one of the greatest days of my life.
There you go.
There you go.
We'll have to toss down a view at the local sports bar when you arrive.
I've already got the influence there.
I'm going to get you a cushy cell.
They're cushy style.
You'll have it.
Yeah.
Country club living.
You know, with regards to the October 7th and, you know, what really happened and, you know, the reality of actual Israeli death and so forth, I recall to mind the infamous words of some Holocaust survivor when they said, it was real in my mind.
It was real in their mind, yeah.
I just don't know what to believe, but I start with my basic premise these days is I don't believe anything.
And I am quite certain that I am on firm ground when I say that whatever casualties were being told, I am sure they are much, much less.
Because even though these people, these evil monsters, are certainly willing to sacrifice their own citizens for a greater political agenda, and I have no doubt, just like they do here, It's a pretty messy thing to actually, you know, have people killed and or kill people.
And so I would imagine that it's mostly psychological operation to justify their already pre-planned military operation.
And as far as what's going on here with Trump and, you know, the Democrats, I think Miles Mathis nailed it many years ago when he talked about the fact that they're deliberately destroying The so-called Democratic Party, they're deliberately destroying actual real progressives and actual real liberals to drive everybody to the Zionist right.
And they're also doing it to keep the two party system alive.
Because when there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, people lose interest and they falter in their belief of an actual political process and a political party system.
But when you have such an amazing gulf, It's such a ridiculous dysfunction on one side that it keeps alive in people's minds the viability of a two party system.
And of course, nothing could be further from the truth.
There is no two party system.
There's only the ruling class.
Right.
The deep state, the Zionist Jewish control of all industry, all business, all finance, legal systems, medical systems, as we were shown with the pandemic.
So, you know, the sooner that this whole thing becomes the biggest mess you can possibly imagine, the better for people like myself, because I've been for a very long time what people have called an accelerationist.
So anyway, that's my little speech for the moment.
Thanks, guys.
Paul, do you think that Trump is sincere when he talks about having the largest deportation program the country's ever seen and get all the illegals out or not?
Something like 56% of the public wants all of the illegals deported.
Is he going to follow through?
Well, as I'll recall, another very famous statement or saying that everybody, we've all heard it may be used in our lives.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Yeah, right now I don't, I don't believe it at all.
If he does something, okay, fine.
I mean, he, he might throw a few bones and they might stage a few things, but guess what?
Even here in Northern Nevada, I've seen far more of these goddamn foreigners that nobody wants around.
Just the other day at Whole Foods and mostly the area I'm in is still predominantly white.
We're getting a lot of people from California to move here.
But it's still overwhelmingly white.
In other words, you can go to Home Depot and you can go to fast food restaurants and you will have white clerks waiting on you, which believe me, coming from California, that's rare.
But having said that, I mean, just the other day at Whole Foods, I saw what were obvious to dark skin, blue gum Africans with speaking in a very heavily accented English.
And, you know, all I could think of when I saw them, they're much, much darker than any average American black, right?
They're obviously foreigners.
And all I could think of when I saw them, just like I went through this process in the Bay Area, is what are they doing here?
Okay, what are they doing?
What jobs are they working?
Basically, they have no business here, but they're trying to make us into this melting pot smorgasbord consumer society, no doubt about it.
They're trying to minimize or destroy all the ways of white people conventionally making a living.
They've already succeeded in destroying our birth rate.
So it's both a race war and an economic war.
But to answer your very good thoughts and questions earlier, Jim, about what's the point, you know, if they don't have any consumers, if the, you know, with the AI, with the manufacturing, they're going to have all this efficiency and production, but they're, you know, if they're going to depopulate us, all the consumers are, you know, not going to be there.
So what's the point?
Yeah, that's a good question.
And my answer has been for a very long time.
They don't care.
They're doing both things.
But in my opinion, the predominant agenda is the racial agenda.
They're making money along the way.
And the source of money making is what, Paul?
I mean, how many ways are the massive, the millions of illegals affecting our society?
Give us your dissection.
Well, I mean, everybody knows, you know, that the price of everything's gone up.
Okay.
You know, you buy milk, you buy eggs, you buy bread, whatever it is, everything's gone up.
So the price of real estate has not collapsed.
It's remained either steady or slightly increased even throughout the pandemic.
So what does that tell you?
It was well known that BlackRock and all these other big companies were buying up large amounts of real estate during that time.
The interest rates really have not come down.
Okay.
And then, of course, they can create the money, as we all know, they can create the money, loan it to themselves.
All right.
With the, you know, with the Federal Reserve System and the interest bearing bonds, you know, there are a lot of times they're selling or buying the bonds themselves.
I mean, in the end, these people already have all the money.
And of course, they've already offshored most of our manufacturing base.
So whatever corporate activity they control, they're going to reach benefits of that.
So in the end, it's essentially going to be, as I've said for a long time, a population and racial agenda.
And they're going to make us pay for it through their taxes.
In other words, it's like when we give money to Israel, we all know it comes back to bribe and own our politicians.
Can anybody have any doubt that all this money that goes to Israel, a lot of that money comes back and then directly purchases and pays for all these elections to see that the people that hold office only have the interest of Israel at heart, and nobody can make the case that any of these representatives really have the interest of the United States.
They're the ones that do.
They don't have any power.
They're demonized and they're ostracized by their congressional and their senatorial colleagues.
Yeah.
So it's just it's been for a long time.
And I'll just I'll quickly add this book that I came across in the 80s, too, because this agenda has been in place to basically return to a feudal society.
In the 80s, I read this book called The New Dark Ages Conspiracy.
A guy by the name of White wrote it.
And it was quite shocking and eye opening to my I was in my 20s, I believe, when I read it.
And part of me, of course, didn't believe it.
I just thought, wow, this is just ridiculous.
But at the same time, there was a lot of truth.
You could see what was the beginnings of the dismantling of the United States at that time.
This is about the first time, too, that I discovered that the Chamber of Commerce was actually printing up literature and brochures to help American companies offshore their manufacturing operations.
I first learned about that in the 80s.
And I remember as a kid in my 20s, just coming up, I'm thinking, What the hell's up with that?
We don't have all the answers.
We can only speculate, but again, thanks for hearing me.
Russ?
One thing we need to add to the equation is this new president of Mexico, who's Jewish, by the way.
A tiny little Jewish population.
I think she's tied in.
I think her parents came over with Trotsky.
Back in the 30s, like 37, 38, so she's... My impression, she's not a conventional Zionist, though, Russ.
She might be an exception.
That's just an impression.
I think she's a destroyer.
Okay.
I think she's gonna take Mexico's economy down.
A lot of taxes driving.
Obviously, all the massive illegals come through Mexico.
Mexico plays a key role in all these.
Yeah, if Trump gets elected, there's going to be like a big collision.
and Mexico.
How is Trump going to send everybody home if this lady's in there obfuscating everything, sabotaging the whole operation?
Where the hell do you actually send them?
I think that's a hell of a question.
Bill, your thoughts.
Well, I think there's a lot to address there.
Hold on.
Regarding Trump and the bipartisan legislation that's been passed, I live in San Diego County.
I work construction, many different construction sites and construction companies.
And the foreman had pipelines to bring the illegal people through.
They knew they had fake papers.
The American companies profiteered off this.
Even when I worked at Camp Pendleton for Shaw Environmental, it was the same thing.
And I grew up Here in Bridgeport, where I was a minority in school.
So I have Cuban friends, Puerto Rican friends, all nationalities, black.
And so I see the world a little differently.
The destruction of the economies and the division we have between us is created by the elite.
And it doesn't have to be this way.
Bridgeport, by the way, was a manufacturing hub in New England, which now it's cited as an armpit of America by Paul Newman.
Many years ago, and Chris Hedges in a sacrifice zone and his farewell tour America Bridgeport, but that it was thriving at one point all nationalities and we didn't have a lot of crime now it's the complete opposite.
That's due to the outsourcing.
That's not due to the black people here or the Puerto Rican peel or the Cubans ever.
No.
So then when I work in San Diego County was the same way.
The wage was low compared to when they moved me up north to $20,000 an hour higher.
But that's because, you know, these American companies are profiteering off this and along with the outsourcing.
So I just see things differently, that they're the problem.
The people who are in control, creating the social divisions and having us turn on one another.
That's my perspective.
There's a chart that came out that I was showing on, I think it was Giuseppe's show.
No, Robert Phoenix's show that I did that shows the labor market.
That all the job growth since the pandemic is non-native.
And that the native-born population, like this, it's like, one chart goes up, this is the non-native population going up, and then the native population going down, and that's exactly what Bill's talking about, because that's wage suppression.
There's also a report on hiring, that all the hires, like, over the last two years have gone to non-white.
All of them!
But here's the thing, okay, so Bill made this statement about he sees things differently.
No, I didn't hear you seeing anything differently.
You might not place the importance that I do on the racial equation, okay, but you don't see things any differently than I do.
I see very clearly what's going on, and as far as jobs going to these interviews, give me a break.
That's only some of them.
Right.
I mean, a long time ago, they dropped 10,000 Somalis in Bangor, Maine.
OK.
They've dropped hundreds of thousands of African Somalis and Sudanese in Minneapolis and St.
Paul.
What the hell was that for?
So that they could work some jobs?
No.
OK.
A lot of these people don't have employment.
I guarantee it.
I mean, I'm from channels that saw this coming in.
I mean, literally, they're importing the world, not just the third world.
They're importing the world there.
And there's all these huge big block apartments and they're very expensive.
And I see these women walking around during the day in their traditional wrap type dresses, whether they're Indians or Muslims.
And a lot of times I see the men as well.
They obviously don't have jobs.
OK, so it's not really about suppressing wages.
That's a little side benefit for them.
OK, they get their thrill about that, about keeping us poor.
Everybody knows real wages have not risen since the 70s.
But the real agenda is racist.
I'm sorry, okay?
It's a racial war they're waging.
And they're paying for it, and they're making us pay for it.
And my brother told me years ago, he's been in Germany now 30 years, and he told me years ago, it's well known among the German public that at least 50-60% of Muslim households have zero working adults.
They're doing the same thing there.
And it's all welfare.
They're all sustained by government.
Big underground economy, you know.
Pilfering from stores.
Steve going in and shoplifting.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, Paul.
Yeah, Russ wanted to get a word in edgewise.
Go ahead, Russ.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, it's just a big underground economy too, clearly.
I didn't mean to imply these people are all getting legit jobs.
Some of them probably are.
Some of them may be hard-working folk.
But a lot of it is an underground economy, pilfering and shoplifting from stores.
Uh, drugs, human trafficking.
Exactly.
Well, Biden wrote something about growing GDP, but all government expenditures, even gifts to these illegals, counts toward the GDP.
No wonder it's burgeoning.
They're giving away the store.
It's growing the GDP, but in destructive, expensive ways to the American people.
Right, exactly.
And once Trump gets in and starts talking about actually closing the deficit, the economy will completely collapse.
Paul, go ahead, Paul.
You and Russ were speaking at the same time.
Go ahead, Paul.
I thought it was Bill and I, but yeah, Russ said it quite well when he said it's a humiliation ritual.
Everything they're doing, okay, it's like they have to humiliate us as well.
Okay, so they're doing that with Biden.
Obviously, to have a man like Biden as president, to be told that he won the election with more votes than any candidate ever got, that's humiliation right there.
For the German people, and like I said, my brother lives in Germany, he speaks German, for the German people to endure all these dysfunctional, non-functional, non-necessary foreigners all the time selling drugs in the subways, selling drugs up the street, harassing women, all the stuff that you can see in videos, It's a humiliation ritual, okay?
And it's taxpayer expense.
Yeah.
So it's racial agenda, primarily, in my opinion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Russ, go ahead, Russ.
No, I kind of made my points.
I think we covered this topic pretty well, actually.
Okay, Brian, Brian, let me bring you back, Brian, if you have some further reflections.
Brian.
I do.
It reminds me on Henry McHale, there was a guy that had an article about his grandfather who was in the Aragis Battalion, an SF battalion in Estonia in the 40s and they were tasked with shadowing a communist organization and they were watching them and they saw them Murdering some boy, some young boy.
Evil, dark, Jewish ritual.
And so when they confronted him, and of course they executed him, they said, you're the Amulek, and we are going to breed you out of existence.
Okay, so that's what it's about.
They don't like Aryans.
blonde hair blue eyed because we're traditionally their enemy and they're trying to breed us out of existence bill well uh who again everybody keeps talking about they orchestrating this that's my point it's not who's bringing the people in how are they getting here uh rd jr talked about the what was going on at the border extensively we know there's a lot of trafficking going on at the
We had Tara Lee Rodas talk about that before Congress.
And actually, the U.S.
Catholic Conference of Bishops is funded.
They're involved.
Yeah, but it's all coming from somewhere.
And what I'm trying to say is that The people who want to get out of the imperial controlled economies that are being paid pennies on the dollar, like Haiti, where they're getting $7 a day to work at Levi Strauss or $6.50.
You can't blame them for wanting to get out.
But that's their press repressed.
Then, OK, now they're brought here.
So who's doing all that?
It's the people in charge who are profiteering off all this.
I'm just trying to take it away from demonizing the immigrants themselves and trying to focus on who's generating this conflict.
Why do you need to do that?
Both things are true.
We already know who's bringing them here, but they're a problem.
Blacks and browns don't benefit any white society anyway at all.
Period.
End of story.
Paul, let me finish!
You've been hogging this conversation.
Shut up!
I'm not a bigot, and I'm not prejudiced.
Some of my good friends are black, Puerto Rican, Hispanic, Guatemalan.
Paul, hang on, Paul.
Hang on, Paul.
Paul, hang on.
Hang on.
Hang on.
What?
What are you accusing me of now?
Paul.
All right.
Okay.
I'm cool.
But he's a race traitor, okay?
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
Fuck you, asshole!
Paul, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna... I'm not gonna stay around for this shit!
I just, I just dropped Paul, Bill.
Alright, fine.
Go ahead, say your piece.
I grew up with people, I dated a black woman, fuck this bigotry and bias.
She was Cape Verdean.
And she was... She wasn't black enough, she wasn't white enough.
What the fuck?
When are we going to end this and start focusing on we're all human beings?
Jesus Christ was a Palestinian.
For all we know, he was dark skinned, Middle Eastern.
I mean, come on.
Russ, your thoughts, my friends?
Probably not something I really want to get involved in.
I get both arguments.
It's all about building a trust society.
I trust society.
And a lot of that is because people do have biases and bigotry.
And you know, you can't just wave a magic wand and make that all go away, or to program them to make it all go away.
So to have a high-trust society, people tend to congregate with their third cousins and people that are like them.
When you get too far away from that, your society breaks down.
So I understand that part of the argument.
It's probably good not to get too personal about it.
You know, because exactly what Bill says, these people were trying to better their lives, more or less, I guess.
I mean, I don't know to what degree.
Well, I mean, bribed to be brought in with all kinds of benefits?
Funny!
Well, right.
That's not good.
The guys I live with, the family I live with, are Haitian.
And they treat me, you know, we have some issues over the tenancy because they're Catholic, not because they're Haitian.
You know that.
I've broken bed for a year because I fight the Catholics.
I tell you what, if you go to Europe and you live in a place like Prague, which is a pretty homogenous country, I mean, there's Ukrainians here and there's...
But pretty much it's just a high-trust society.
is...
It's a wonderful experience.
It really is, not like Germany.
And my contrast with my experience of where the United States was going, becoming kind of a low-trust society, you know, and I admit, I'm kind of biased and bigoted.
I'll admit that.
Brian, you can squeeze in a final thought, but make it concise.
Being actually being a little bit racist comes from your divine, because you're protecting your DNA, and that doesn't mean you don't love black people and everybody.
You'll love them.
Thanks, Brian.
Thanks, Paul.
Thank you, Bill.
Russ, great to have you here.
Spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends and people you love and care about, because we do not know how much time we have left.
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