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May 10, 2024 - Jim Fetzer
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The Michael Decon Show (9 May 2024) with Dr. James Fetzer
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And welcome back, boys and girls, for yet again, another special edition of the Michael Deacon program.
Tonight's going to be a very special show.
Oh, yes.
Jim Fetzer has returned.
The stars have aligned and back by popular demand.
He is, of course, the man of the hour, also known as the world's most dangerous man in America.
Jim, the Freight Train Fetzer, as I like to call him, Oh yes, we love Jim here very, very much.
And now, without further ado, let's bring in Mr. Jim Fetzer.
Jim, how's it going, my friend?
How are you?
Oh, Michael, terrific.
Yeah, it was very kind of Michael, Mike Adams to bestow upon me that title, The Most Dangerous Mind in America, when they banned my book, Nobody Died in San Diego.
That's right.
Yes.
Which I released for free as a PDF.
And then they had to go to all the trouble to drag me into court to take it away from me.
And it was all done improperly.
In fact, What I've learned about the judicial system in America, Michael, is very, very disconcerting because the law doesn't operate anything like we think it does.
In fact, a friend of mine has said to me, there's the truth and then there's the law.
And the law can make determinations that are far removed from the truth.
And let me just say, and I'll have more about this by and by, but I'm not done fighting this lawsuit business because the methods they used were so corrupt.
They were so improper.
They were so violative of judicial procedure.
That it left me with certain options that I'm exploiting and pursuing.
I'll fill you in as we proceed, as things move forward, Michael.
When I have filed again, and it should be in the near future, I'll let you know.
I'll drop you a copy of what I've done, and we can take it from there.
Very nice.
Very nice.
I appreciate that.
Yes.
And I was doing a throwback to what Rolling Stone was trying to label you as the world's most dangerous man, period.
But yes, that crazy article out there.
Rolling Stone?
It was Mike Adams had on that, you know, Natural News.
He had called me that world's most dangerous mind because and interviewed me on... I like both monitors, by the way.
The extreme censorship and, you know, false flags.
I mean, unbelievable.
I mean, for a guy who's a professional philosopher, I wind up having done more work on false flags exposed more than perhaps anyone in the world.
I'd say I have two close competitors, Nick Kohlerstrom in the UK and Uli Damengard, who they're both sensational and dear friends and colleagues.
Both are fantastic.
And by the way, Jim, I had no idea, but you were sort of a subject of discussion with our friend, Mr. I think you are very familiar with him.
Mr. Jay Widener actually referenced your work on JFK.
Oh, did he?
I'm not sure if you're familiar with that.
Well, not with what he may have said about what I had on JFK.
Remind me, I think he had something, took exception to, I think I even did an interview with him not too long ago about this.
Can you remind me what was his position?
I can critique it in a nutshell.
Yes, it's something about a blob.
Yeah, that was planted on his face to cause the explosion.
You guys had a bit of a difference there in what that was.
Well, the blob is an artifact.
I mean, we know a lot about the film.
I have a whole book on the great Zabruder film, folks, where I brought together the six leading experts on the Zabruder film and we dissected it.
We now know much more, but the blob is very familiar.
It moves around inappropriately on Jack's face in the excellent version of the film.
Which was a massively edited version of the original.
And I even think they took it from the back of the head and moved it forward.
They blacked out the hole at the back of the head.
Then they moved the blob around to try to make it look as though it were coming out of his forehead.
And one of the ways we know that Abraham Zapruder was in on it is Zapruder He gave an interview.
It may have even been the evening of the 22nd on television.
And he talked about seeing this great blowout from Jack's forehead, which would have been something you could expect from a shot fired from behind.
But there was no big blowout from the front.
That was the blob they were going to introduce when they edited the film.
And since it wasn't there in Dallas and it wasn't there on his original film, we know Zapruder himself was in on it.
By the way, Jim, I feel like I'm going to have to bring Jay back onto the program and you, Jim, and we could all have a discussion about the moon landing.
We could talk about JFK.
Sure.
Yeah, it'd be a fun time.
Very much like the time when you called in when I was interviewing John Lear.
Way back when.
John Lear was a great man.
I'm sorry to say he's no longer with us, but he was completely brilliant.
He had like 50 international speed records for flight.
He was the son of John Lear, who designed the Learjet.
And John did wonderful work, including an affidavit to explain how what we're seeing in the video of Flight 175 approaching the South Tower can't possibly be real, because a plane would have come apart in flight, but it couldn't have at that altitude attained that speed without
Physically dissembling, which is also echoed by pilots for 9-11 Truth and their documentary about 9-11 entitled 9-11 Intercepted, actually show graphically how the plane would have come apart in flight.
And it turns out that, I mean, they're right.
A fellow named Richard D. Hall out of the UK sorted it out, Michael, and he discovered that There was a radar showing a plane that was 1,200 feet to the side of where you see the plane in all these films where he plotted using, you know, they're like 52 and from about 27 are sufficiently precise, you can create a plot.
And when he finally got good radar data, it showed up like 1,200 feet to the side.
And he realized it was traveling impossibly fast, and it wouldn't come apart.
It makes an impossible entry into the building.
And you may or may not be aware of the nose-out phenomenon, where the nose actually pokes out on the other side of the building, which is a physical absurdity.
The nose of these planes is very fragile.
It's loaded with electronics.
So what Richard D. Hall realized was it was a holographic projection.
A plane 1,200 feet Projected the image, and that's why it was traveling faster, because a plane projecting the image was flying faster than a 767 could fly at that altitude to maintain the integrity of the projection.
Why it enters a building with no collision effects, and how there could be a nose-out phenomenon.
Now, I've been told that Richard Hall has abandoned that theory, but there's no good reason.
And if he has, let's call it Jim Fetzer's theory, because it's right.
And now I have you on screen, by the way, Jim.
I didn't have you up on the screen for a moment there, but now I do.
And what the people don't see are this large stack of books right next to you, by the way.
What are those?
Look at that.
Look at that, folks.
Look at all those books right there.
Well, there's tons of stuff.
Probably the most interesting is A five-part series by Douglas Horn called Inside the ARRB, the Assassination Record Review Board.
Doug was a senior analyst for military records for this board that was created in the wake of the House committee after You know, they came up with very troubling conclusions at odds with the Warren Report, and there was a civilian board created to declassify all the documents and records, and they took their job very seriously.
They did a lot of interviews, depositions, obtained diagrams.
Doug published it in a five-volume set.
It's a tremendous resource of records about JFK.
You know that, among others.
I have lots of books.
Scholars, by the way, Michael, don't always just have books just to read the books.
They're for research.
If I need to look at a specific topic or aspect of an issue, I can go to multiple sources and sort it out.
What happened to the JFK skull?
Because we have three different versions of the back of JFK's head at Parkland, and I have diagrams from physicians who were there.
It was like a fist-sized blowout right at the back of the head, where you'd rest your head if you were reclining at the top.
The size of your fist doubled up.
Oh, my.
But then at Bethesda, it's enormously enlarged.
By the way, Jim, By the way, Jim, let me just cut you off really quickly and say, Jim, you look fantastic right now.
You are very happy, very jovial right now.
And the listeners, they could see it on your face.
You look great.
And Jim, don't mind me for asking this, but how... 83?
I'll be 84 in December, Michael.
Oh my goodness, Jim, you look amazing.
Hanging in there.
Hanging in there, in tough.
And then when the House Select Committee re-investigated, they reconstituted the back of the head.
Now, what had happened was, the fist side blow-up was authentic.
That Bethesda physician in charge took a cranial salt of the skull of JFK and enlarged it to try and make it look like something that could have happened by a shot from behind, had he been leaning way forward.
But the House reconstituted it.
They got the whole back of the head completely Reconstituted with only a small wound at the top of the crown of the head, which is two to four inches higher than where the Bethesda physicians had properly located it.
So the HSCA was a monster cover-up.
It was like they went back to redo it the way they thought it should have been done in the beginning, but it was a fiasco.
And what Doug Horn discovered Was that the mortician who prepared the body for a funeral, Thomas Evan Robinson, plus a radiologist were there when James, the physician in charge, took a cranial saw to the skull of James Humes by name, took a cranial saw to the skull of JFK and enlarged the wound to make it so big.
I mean, it's just outrageous, David.
David Lifton, who wrote what I regard as the single most important book ever published on JFK, Best Evidence, noticed there was something wrong.
Because you can find it described with mathematical detail in the Bethesda autopsy report.
So he called a physician friend of his, and without identifying the patient, just read the description of the wound and asked what did it sound to him as though it happened.
Absolutely.
And that was the first time the American public were made aware that the government, if they want you dead, they're going to have you dead for sure.
Bar to the cover up.
Bar to the cover up to conceal the true causes of death of JFK.
Absolutely.
And that was the first time the American public were made aware that the government, if they want you dead, they're going to have you dead for sure.
Or they'll unalive you, as they say.
Well, Michael, this was so elaborate.
I mean, that's part of why it's been so difficult to sort out.
There were many groups that wanted Jack out, principally for reasons of policy.
But in the case of the anti-Castro Cubans for pure revenge, the CIA wanted him out because he threatened to shatter the agency into a thousand pieces.
They wanted to retain their power.
The Joint Chiefs wanted him out because he had not invaded Cuba, contrary to their unanimous recommendation.
He'd gone ahead and signed an above-ground atomic test ban treaty with the Soviets, contrary to their unanimous opposition.
Now he was pulling all our forces out of Vietnam by the end of 1964, where the Chiefs felt we had to take a stand against the expansion of international godless communism.
The mafia was upset.
They thought they had an agreement, and I think they had with Joe, but not with Jack and Bobby, that if they assisted by making sure Chicago went for Jack and Illinois, that he'd win the election.
But that was on the condition that he not pursue the mob when, in fact, Bobby went after them more aggressively than ever before in history.
Bringing more indictments and convictions, so they felt they'd been double-crossed.
The Texas oilmen wanted to reserve the oil depletion allowance, which is a fantastic tax write-off.
Oh, I think it was around 24% on the ground that by pumping oil out of the ground, it was a finite resource.
They weren't putting themselves out of business.
We know today, of course, oil is produced by Earth naturally in endless quantity.
There's no end of of oil produced by Earth naturally.
Then you had the anti-Castro Cubans, who I mentioned already, because they thought Jacket promised air support.
It was false, but the CIA let them believe it.
You had the Texas oil I mentioned, We had Israel, of course.
Jack was at odds with David Ben-Gurion, who was a founder in the first PM of Israel, over his desire that Israel acquire nuclear weapons, which Jack opposed on the ground that it would generate a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.
Then you had the Eastern establishment surrounding the Fed, Because Jack had already had the Department of Treasury print United States notes.
I remember as a young Marine Corps officer holding one of these in my hand.
It had a red embossed imprint.
It said United States note rather than green Federal Reserve note.
On the ground that it was absurd for the government to be paying interest to a consortium of private banks for printing the currency of the United States.
So he was going to circumvent it by having the Treasury print the currency of the United States.
So that was very upsetting, but it would have been a great move to get rid of the Fed.
And then we had, of course, Lyndon himself, who really was the brains behind the whole thing, to accede to the presidency.
So we had eight different sponsors, and Michael, each of them had their own shooter in Dealey Plaza.
My goodness.
And Jim, let me just ask you this.
Do you think we will ever get the official story?
Well, we've got it.
It's just the government won't give it to us.
Well, that's what I mean.
Do you think the government will ever actually disclose what really happened?
Or do you think they'll just keep telling us lies and pushing it back further and further?
About, oh, I don't know, two and a half, maybe three years ago, I had an interesting conversation with a fellow by the name of James Files.
He was a hitman for the mafia.
He was a hitman for the mafia, I have no doubt.
But who claims, uh, fired a shot that killed Jack.
This would be the shot that entered the right temple.
But the fact is that, uh, Files claimed, you know, he talked about a shot, a limousine coming up, firing the shot, but he doesn't talk about the fact it only occurred after the limousine had been brought to a halt.
And after it had been brought to a halt, Jack was hit in the back of the head by a shot fired from the Daltax.
He slumped forward.
He was wearing this brace, this body brace, because he had these back injuries from World War II, so he had very limited mobility.
Jack eased him back up, was looking him right in the face when he was hit by a right temple, but also concurrently, it turns out, a side to the head, virtually simultaneously.
The shot to the back of the head was fired by the anti-Castro Cuban shooter who was in the Daltex.
We're talking about Nestor Tony Escadro, the anti-Castro Cuban shooter.
We're talking about Frank Sturges, A mob shooter.
But then we had Clyde Foreshaw was in the sewer firing the shot for Israel that hit Jack in the side of the head.
So, I mean, it's all very dramatic, but it was all eradicated when they edited the film and smoothed it all out.
They did a near perfect job.
But there's like 2% internal features of a film that reveal it was a fabrication, an illustration.
The Stemmins Freeway sign apparently had a bullet hole in it, so they had to take it out and replace it without the bullet hole.
But when they put it back in, they put it in the wrong position.
So there's a brilliant introductory tutorial to the Brutal Film Alteration by John P. Costello.
That goes through the whole film.
Costell has a PhD in physics with a specialization in electromagnetism and knows a great deal about the properties of moving objects.
And, you know, he's quite a genius.
So that we know, you know, the film was massively altered.
And then it's complemented by the work of Larry Rovira.
Who has discovered the Newcombe tapes.
It was an early generation student by the name of Fred Newcombe who interviewed all four of the motorcycle escort officers and their supervisor, Stavis Ellis, and they all confirmed the limo stop And they describe the following activity and ask yourself, Michael, how much time would all this take?
OK, the limo comes to a halt.
Bobby Hargis gets off his bike, runs between the two limousines.
Impossible if they've been in motion up to the grassy knoll.
Officer Douglas Jackson, on the other side, motors up the Grassy Knoll until his bike falls off and he continues on foot.
Five Secret Service agents dismount, surround the presidential limousine.
One takes a chunk of skull from a little boy and throws it back into the car before they get back in the seat.
Practically no one in the world knows this.
One of them actually got in the car With the Connellys and the Kennedys, he actually got in the car.
That's been one of the most deepest secrets about the whole assassination and the whole case, but Larry Rovira was able to sort it out, and it's quite sensational.
The world doesn't know, but while I've published four books on JFK, I've also been doing for years and years and years, hundreds Of the new JFK Show, and in the new JFK Show, which I do with Gary King and Larry Rivero, we often feature guests.
We talk about the latest research, where Larry's done absolutely brilliant work.
He's created a 3D model using something known as Blender, a 3D model of Dealey Plaza, and he's been able to Take this triangular patch of skull blown out of the back of the head known as the Harper Fragment because it was a medical student who found it on the grass the next day.
I believe it was a chunk of skull taken by the little boy and thrown in the vehicle.
They came back and put it further down the grass so that it would look as though the actual killing had occurred at a different place, you know, the fatal shots.
Had been at a different location.
But he's even created a 3D model of the hardware fragment and been able to use one of these 3D printers to print it out.
Or David Manning, who's a leading expert on the medical evidence, and had just published a new book explaining how this third shot to the head really loves Larry's work.
This is what's enabled us to discredit files.
Now, here's the thing.
When Files was here in Madison, I took him to my favorite steakhouse with his wife, Pam.
He told me, and he said this twice, but particularly stuck in my mind.
He said, once the government takes out a position, it is stuck with it, and it will never change.
So in response to your question, Michael, no, they're stuck with it.
Right, yeah.
I clearly see that.
Yeah, well, it's very interesting, because if you want to get the facts, you're going to have to go elsewhere, but I've been fortunate enough to bring together the best experts.
And given the reputation of our own government, they don't really like to admit when they were wrong.
Well, see, it's not a scientific, it's a political entity, so that's the way they play politics.
Because they tell us 19 Islamic terrorists under the control of Osama bin Laden, but that's long been refuted.
You know, again, in 9-11, I brought together hundreds of experts from all over the world when I founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth in December 2005.
And we were so successful that when Alex Jones organized his American Scholars Conference in June of 2006, he invited me to be the keynote speaker, and four members of Scholars, my organization, were the panel members on Sunday when the C-SPAN came and recorded an hour and 45 minutes.
It was Steve Jones, who's a physicist from BYU.
I invited him to be my co-chair.
Bob Bauman, who had a Ph.D.
in nuclear engineering, had been an advisor to Reagan and Ford on Star Wars projects.
Webster Tarpley had published a book, 9-11, Synthetic Hair Made in the USA, and Jim Fetzer, founder, Scholars for 9-11 Truth on the Top Ten Reasons We Know the Hijackers Are Fake, which she's banned, proceeded to Rebroadcast seven or eight times.
I mean, I think that broke the glass ceiling of discussion about 9-11 in the public domain.
And by the way, Jim, what do you make of the individuals out there who believe the Mohammed Atta phone call was legit during the whole escapade?
Now, all the phone calls were fabricated and fake.
They appear to have been mostly done during a drill.
A.K.
Dudney, who just passed, he was a computer scientist from Western Ontario, brilliant guy, actually took multiple cell phones and flew on jets of a similar type at different speeds and altitudes and discovered that at speeds greater than 200 miles an hour, altitudes greater than 2,000 feet,
You can't complete, or could not at the time, a cell phone call because the plane was moving too fast for the relay towers to relay the messages and keep up with it.
So all those phone calls were fabricated and fake.
Yes, that's what a lot of the people that believe the official narrative will go to.
They say, but what about the phone calls that were made on the plane?
Oh, Jim has to answer the phone there.
I'm done.
Oh, you hung up on them.
You said you're on the Michael Deacon program.
Amazing.
And by the way, Jim, where can people listen to both of your radio shows that you do?
I feel like that's important to let the listeners know.
Oh, that's very damn nice, Michael.
Yeah.
Well, I'm doing two regular shows.
One on Revolution Radio.
It's entitled The Raw Deal, Monday, Wednesday, Friday from, uh, From noon to two eastern time on Studio B. You can find it if you just go to Revolution.Radio, Studio B, noon to two eastern.
And that show, I spend the first half an hour on the latest, biggest news stories, and I have an hour with a guest, and then I have a half an hour taking calls.
I like that.
I like that portion, by the way.
I have listened to one of the very last shows, and you were battling it out with one caller there.
I thought that was great.
It's known to happen.
And the others on RBN.
I was a successor to Michael Rivero on RBN when he retired, and my show is called Authentic News, and it's from 3 to 5 Eastern on RBN five days a week.
And on that show, the first hour I do about 30 news stories, and the second hour is all callers.
Oh, I love that.
Yes, we love taking phone calls whenever people have the testicular fortitude to call in.
Because as you know, Jim, some people are a little scared to call in.
They get cold feet.
I'm pretty gentle, you know, in other words, I'm nurturing the caller.
But I've had to give the Since I took over from Michael Romero, I've handled hundreds and hundreds of callers, and it was only this week.
That I gave the boot to a caller on Tuesday.
And he called back today on Thursday, and he was totally reasonable, and we got along very well.
But another caller, who's a regular, just went off the rails and became totally obnoxious.
He sounded like a Christian Zionist, by the way, Jim.
I mean, I was trying to get him to calm down, because he was just taking exception, because someone else had an opinion that was different from his opinion.
And he was even outraged with me because I let the other guy offer his opinion without contradicting it.
But I'm not trying to impose a set of views on people and facilitating exchange of opinions.
Yeah, these are just opinions, by the way.
Yeah, and offering my own as to who I think has got it right or wrong, you know.
Absolutely.
And of course, one of the main topics that everyone is talking about right now is, of course, Donald J. Trump.
And it seems like you have came to some new revelations in your thoughts and opinions on Donald J. Trump.
What's going on, Jim?
Let me know.
This is a tough one, a bitter pill for me, Michael.
I've been a very strong Trump supporter since it came on the scene.
Since he came down that escalator in Trump Tower with Melania, whom I admire greatly, I think she handles herself with a lot of class.
In fact, she's the only first lady I would compare with Jacqueline Kennedy.
So I feel that highly about Melania.
I see.
Trump, I felt, was a breath of fresh air.
You want to put America first, non-interventionist, secure our borders, keep us out of wars, made us energy independent, gave us a surging economy.
As we were coming up to 2020, for example, blocks of blacks and Latinos were gravitating toward Trump because of the surging economy.
They were the lowest earning wage earners, but their wages were rising at the highest rate.
So they were going for Trump.
Now, 2020 was massively stolen.
Don't let anyone have any doubts about it.
I have looked at this thing inside out.
I was following all the polling before.
I was following all the polling after.
We had that interruption in the vote count at about 2 or 3 a.m.
in the morning, which was outrageous.
And Trump have been steadily leading.
And then when we come back, Biden has suddenly made a jump up over Trump.
And from that point on, just coasted to victory.
Totally rigged.
Mike Lindell did a wonderful expose about it.
Ron Johnson, too.
There's so much evidence about how that was stolen.
It's hard for me to imagine how anyone could continue to believe there was anything authentic about it.
So I've endured with Trump for quite a while now.
What's happened of late has been to be extremely disconcerting.
The Freedom Caucus in the House had devised a brilliant plan that they were going to hold up funding for Israel And for Ukraine until we're funding for border security.
I mean, there's never been a threat to the United States like these millions of illegals pouring across our border and Biden's all in.
I mean, we know it's not a real Biden.
It's actually an actor in a mask.
I mean, it's that bad.
I've done a lot of study about who this guy would be and whether they're the same person.
They have a different shape and size of skull.
They have different handwriting.
They have different manners when they speak.
They have different social interaction with Jill.
I'm telling you, not the same guy.
The real Joe appears to have died in 2017, as best I can calculate.
Even one of his granddaughters said that.
Yeah.
Her granddad had died, but the family liked being in politics, so they got other people to play the role.
I mean, how bad is that?
That's a tough gig, I suppose.
So when Trump went to meet with Mike Johnson about this funding bill, I thought he was going to reinforce and for sure we were going to get funding from the border.
Instead, he abandoned ship.
And let it go.
They have funding for Israel, funding for Ukraine, nothing for the border.
At a single stroke, Michael, he made the genocide Trump's genocide.
He made the Ukraine war Trump's war.
He made the border Trump's fiasco.
I couldn't believe it.
And when all the protests broke out, And you got Israel wanting the U.S.
National Guard deployed against the anti-Israel protesters, and they really are.
They're not pro-Hamas, they're pro-Palestine.
They are anti-Israel because they're anti-genocide and Israel is perpetuating the genocide.
But get this, when Trump called in to Hannity, I was floored.
What did he say?
Listen to this.
I'm listening.
When you look at the anti-Semitism, the hatred of Israel by so many people, you go back 10 years, I mean, Israel was protected by Congress, and now Congress is just doing numbers that are unbelievable with, I think, a very, very small group of people within Congress, I think, a very, very small group of people within Congress, and it's got to But we have to go back to the roots.
We have to protect, we have to stop the anti-Semitism that's just pervading our country right now, and Biden has to do something.
You have to get the job done.
It's a horrible job to do, but they have to respond when they do, when there's an attack.
A sneak attack, like on October 7th, that's so violent and such hatred.
You have to clean it out.
You have to clean out the cancer and you have to let them do their job.
And frankly, it has to be done fast because this is not sustainable for anybody.
The job has to be done.
It has to be done fast.
The United States has to get courage and the United States has to speak up.
Nobody knows where the U.S.
stands right now.
I think Biden is not on the side of Israel.
And he's making a tremendous mistake.
You have to clean up the terror that we witnessed on October 7th.
But the bottom line is they have to be able to finish the job.
You have to let them finish the job.
You have to support them.
But they have to do it quickly.
And you can't let scenes like this.
The head of Columbia should be ashamed of herself.
The job that she's done.
She should no longer be there.
She should be absolutely ashamed because she let this take place, Sean.
Let me just say, Michael, I had no idea that the president was a shield for Israel.
My goodness.
Every time.
Wow.
I know it's shocking.
I never heard that before, Jim.
I am legitimately shocked right now.
I had no idea that he would defend them so badly.
And of course, a nation that tells us what we can or can't say is not an ally of mine.
That's right.
That's right.
Imagine how it hit me because I've invested so much time and effort and belief into Donald J. Trump.
That this hit me like a silver bullet between the eyes.
I mean, he's saying they've got to finish the job.
He's talking about the genocide.
They've got to finish the job.
His only complaint is they're not killing the Palestinians fast enough.
Michael, that's what Donald Trump is saying, and it's called a Hannity.
It caused me to have to reconsider who the guy is.
And I'm telling you, this is very, very disturbing.
Now, it turns out that years back in 2018, and I believe this was in response to an attack on the synagogue, the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, which was, I guarantee you, a false flag.
Nobody died.
There's an especially good critique of the Tree of Life by Miles Mathis.
He doesn't always get it right, but in this case, he knocked it out of the park.
Totally fake.
Trump, listen, this is a rally in Illinois, but listen to what he said.
Now, it is 2018, and he is talking, I think, about in the context of the Tree of Life.
But listen to what he says.
Roll it.
This evil anti-Semitic attack.
is an assault on all of us.
It's an assault on humanity.
It will require all of us working together to extract the hateful poison of anti-Semitism from our world.
This was an anti-Semitic attack, of course.
The scourge of anti-Semitism cannot be ignored, cannot be tolerated, And it cannot be allowed to continue.
We can't allow it to continue.
It must be confronted and condemned everywhere.
It rears its very ugly head.
We must stand with our Jewish brothers and sisters to defeat anti-Semitism and vanquish the forces of hate.
That's what it is.
Through the centuries, The Jews have endured terrible persecution, and you know that.
We've all read it.
We've studied it.
They've gone through a lot.
And those seeking their destruction, we will seek their destruction.
And when you have crimes like this, whether it's this one or another one or another group, We have to bring back the death penalty.
They have to pay the ultimate price.
They have to pay the ultimate price.
They can't do this.
They can't do this to our country.
We must draw a line in the sand and say very strongly, never again.
And of course, never again.
Jim, I...
Jim, I had no idea you were going to play audio from Benjamin and Yahoo.
Might as well be.
That's what I'm saying, yeah.
Who am I listening to?
I've never heard that man.
I know it, I know it.
I'm saying this is in the context of a fake attack on a synagogue in Pittsburgh where people were supposed to be killed, but I guarantee nobody was killed.
It's one of the kind of ops that the ADL performs when they feel they aren't getting enough attention for the Jewish victimhood.
So they'll hire someone to go into a cemetery and kick over a couple of Jewish tombstones, or they'll Give somebody a can of spray paint and say, go put swastikas on this building here, which is a synagogue, and then they'll play it up.
I mean, that's what the ADL does.
It's like they're banning my book.
You know, they actually asked Amazon to ban any book that disputed the official story of the Holocaust.
And the book of mine is actually my favorite.
And I suppose we didn't go to the moon either, which my co-editor Mike Palachuk had suggested someone might say in response to the Amazing.
During the title of our first book, Nobody Died as Sandy Hook.
Oh, and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either.
Amazing.
Of course, we didn't go to the moon, but it's not.
I got a section about debunking that we went to the moon.
It's got a section on the death of Paul and replacement of Paul McCartney, which, by the way, turns out to be just about the most controversial subject I ever addressed in terms of emotional response from an audience.
Oh people get angry when you talk about that for sure.
I mean people love the Beatles but if you look at those photographs they do look like different people though and I've seen the photographs that you've displayed and I do actually want to do a whole show with you about the Beatles eventually here.
Well, the new guy is four inches taller.
What do you think?
James Paul McCarthy grew four inches.
I mean, give me a break.
Plus, two Italian forensic scientists who set out to disprove the hypothesis found out confirming it because they discovered Paul had bad teeth and a narrow palate, whereas Paul, F-A-U-L for false Paul.
Actually, Billy Shears, who's introduced in the Sgt.
Pepper album, is William Shepard, nicknamed Billy Shears, has normal teeth, you know, good teeth and a normal palate.
I mean, they're not the same person!
And even when Paul, Paul's Paul, went on with David Letterman, and Letterman was bringing up this story about, well, there's supposed to be a false, you know, a phony Paul McCartney.
Who is it?
And Paul, who actually is the phony McCartney, says, me!
By the way, Jim, there is a radio show called Breakfast with the Beatles, by the way.
- It was just hilarious.
You know, he think it was hilarious, but it was literally true, literally true. - By the way, Jim, there is a radio show called Breakfast with the Beatles, by the way.
It's also like on Sirius XM, and they're also on the radio.
955 KLOS, by the way, for those out here in Southern California.
And, you know, they have these shows.
I forgot exactly where it is, but, you know, people get drunk, they're drinking mimosas, they're having a great time, and they're listening to The Beatles.
It'd be amazing to have you talk to those people there.
It'd be an interesting interaction.
Yeah!
Breakfast with a Beatles?
That's what it's called.
Yeah, they have a whole show.
What time of day is it on, Michael?
I think that's like from 9 a.m.
or 8 a.m.
if you're Eastern time.
8 a.m.
to 11 a.m.
You could hear that on the Beatles channel on Sirius XM, but also on the radio if you live in Southern California.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's something I wish, you know, they could reach out to you or something.
That'd be interesting.
Yeah.
Well, if anyone out there wants to suggest they have me come on to talk about the Beatles and what happened to Paul, I'd be delighted to do it.
I mean, anyone out there who wants us to make that suggestion to breakfast with the Beatles, tell them.
This guy's got this book.
I'm gonna have to put that together actually.
I'll reach out to them and see what goes on.
Mike, do it.
Do it.
I'm gonna have to.
I'm gonna have to.
By the way, Jim, for those in the chat room, someone asked a random question if you smoked marijuana and now I'm curious to know what your thoughts are on cannabis and things like, you know, like acid and what have you, hallucinogens.
I hadn't had a joint until my first appointment as an assistant professor at the University of Kentucky in Lexington in 1970.
And one of the instructors at an apartment invited me over to his house, and it was the first time I had a joint, and it affected me pretty strongly.
I later wondered whether it had LSD because it was so strong, you know, I felt hallucinations.
I mean, I've had joint since.
Some The last time around, it was such good stuff.
I mean, anyone who'll understand, I kept saying, this is great shit!
This is great!
And we were going into a restaurant, and there were cops there, and I was saying, this is great shit!
That is amazing.
Wow, I haven't heard you laugh like that forever.
Wow, Jim.
I love that.
I hear you, okay.
Sounds good to me.
I would have to encourage anyone over a certain age to definitely consume cannabis, for sure.
I don't know, 10 times in my life maybe, but I'm all for it.
I would have to encourage anyone over a certain age to definitely consume cannabis for sure.
Yeah, it makes you mellow for crying out loud.
Yeah, it makes you mellow.
They had this absurd video in the 1930s about reefer madness.
Oh my goodness.
You smoke marijuana, you go... Yeah, that propaganda film.
It's the opposite.
It has a calming, pacifying effect.
You feel very mellow.
That's a good movie, the Reefer Madness.
It is a classic, but I love that.
Yes, Jim.
Yeah.
Well, look, here's Jimmy Dore.
Jimmy Dore, yes.
Let him roll.
Brilliant guy.
Catch this, Michael.
You know, Trump has come down on the... Trump used to be an American first guy.
He's not.
He's an American first occasionally.
He's Israel first.
And so people who are peacefully protesting in the United States, and that's what they're doing.
They're peacefully protesting.
Donald Trump is siding with a foreign country over them.
And he says, do you think that the radical left lunatics that are causing all of the chaos?
So you think people who are who are carpet bombing Gaza right now, the occupiers, the Zionists, they're not lunatics.
They're not the genociders.
This is amazing.
Right.
So do you think, hey, there are radical left lunatics in the country right now?
They don't have any power.
You know who have all the power?
The radical establishment lunatics.
Like Joe Biden, the Democrats, and the Republicans, who all agree on the worst of things.
Just like he agreed, he just got in bed with Mike Johnson, Joe Biden, to pass funding.
He supported that.
The more funding.
Remember, Donald Trump used to go around saying, I'm going to end the Ukraine war in 24 hours?
Yeah.
Now he's like, no, we're going to fund it.
I'm funding it.
I still don't understand why they went to him at all with that.
A guy who's not president that they have on trial.
Hey, we need you to get on board with this.
But they did.
I guess to try to get some of the right-wing base to go along with it.
So here's what he tweeted out on his Truth Social.
By the way, he just got $2 billion more from Truth Social.
I don't know anybody who goes on there.
I had to go on there to get this though.
Do you think that the radical left lunatics that are causing all the chaos at our colleges and universities Are doing so in order to take the focus away from our southern border?
No!
I don't think that's what they're doing.
Wow!
Talk about bending yourself into pretzel.
Where millions of people, many from prisons and mental institutions, are pouring into our country, just asking.
Well, I'll let you know.
No, that's not why they're doing it.
They're not doing that to take, so like he's trying to say they're running cover for Joe Biden.
No, that's not what they're doing.
They're actually telling Joe Biden they're not going to vote for him, and they're actually protesting Joe Biden's policies of supporting a genocide in Gaza, which would be your saying, Pop.
So Donald Trump and Joe Biden now agree on all the most horrible things.
Why is Ukraine getting more fucking money too?
I already knew he was all the way in Zionism, but Ukraine?
And here's a Trumper who we've had on the show.
This guy used to be MAGA, Jake Shields.
I don't know, maybe he still is, but he says Trump wants to make protesting Israel illegal.
They serve the same master.
He showed this.
Stop the protests now.
This is what Donald Trump tweeted out on his Truth Social or whatever.
Stop the protests now.
And he says they serve the same master.
Now, there's nothing in there that says Donald Trump wants to make it illegal, except he does.
Because he wants the cops to come in.
I'm going to show you a video in a second.
And he wants the cops to come in and crack their heads and arrest them.
By the way, those students who are protesting over Gaza have nothing to gain.
It's not going to help them in their business and their career.
They're getting suspended now.
They're getting arrested.
They're getting arrest records.
That makes it much harder to get a job.
They have nothing to gain by doing this.
So I want to show you this.
I say, well, it's fun to watch Donald Trump piss off the donor class and stick his thumb in their eye from time to time.
And it is.
He is a swamp creature who is only occasionally America first.
He didn't give a blue-collar tax cut.
He gave a tax cut to billionaires.
He didn't invest that money back here.
He didn't give everybody a job like he said.
He didn't give everybody health care.
Remember he said when he's running- Terrific healthcare!
I'm gonna make them a deal.
I'm gonna go to the hospitals and- You have the best healthcare you've ever seen.
You're not gonna believe this healthcare.
You're not gonna believe how beautiful it is.
Oh my god.
He is a swamp- I said he is a swamp creature who is only occasionally America first.
You can't argue with that.
It's most- I mean I guess you can.
But you'd be wrong.
His most recent capitulation to the war machine by joining with Mike Johnson and Joe Biden via Ukraine was disgusting.
A lot of people can't handle that he did that.
I can't handle it.
It drives me crazy.
The one thing, the one reason to vote for Donald Trump is because, maybe there's two reasons, the border and he wouldn't fund war the way they did, but now he's on board with their wars.
He still wants credit for the disastrous COVID vaccine, Which boggles my mind.
And of course there's this.
Stop the protest now.
Now in this tweet I said the vaccine is not a vaccine at all.
Of course that's not true.
Of course it is.
It's safe and effective and it's a great vaccine.
The FDA and the CDC say it's fantastic.
I was saying that as a joke.
I was saying that as a joke.
Jim, I've never heard of these clips before, by the way.
Jimmy Dore is just nailing it, Michael.
Interesting clip there.
So embarrassing, you know, I mean, with Trump.
I'm just, it saddens me tremendously.
I mean, this was quite a blow to me personally, having invested so much in Trump, having him come out for genocide.
Get this, of course, it's Discussed on my shows and the show I did just before coming on with you today, that RBN show from 3 to 5 Eastern.
I had a caller who said that Trump had received the Tree of Life.
He's received all these awards from Israel.
And one of the highest awards that Israel gives is the Tree of Life Award.
And I've seen photographs of Trump holding the Tree of Life Award.
It's only given to Jews.
Which means that, as I have long suspected, Donald Trump actually is himself a Jew.
Now, that's a problem because it comes across Talking as though we were a Christian.
Right.
But I'm telling you, Michael, that's a pose, actually, and it explains a lot and why it's going along with a lot of nonsense.
Well, a lot of the people that consume that sort of media, Jim, they basically are Christian Zionist.
In my opinion, that's what they are.
And I don't follow Jimmy Dore.
Someone's asking me that.
I don't really follow a lot of people.
But a lot of people that I talk to listen and consume a lot of the conservative sort of point of view and of course they're all for Donald J. Trump and nothing wrong with that.
You could be for and yeah you could support anybody you want but I've always had that criticism that he kind of supported the other team and not exactly America as he you know he likes to claim he's America first but he in my opinion is Israel first.
Right?
Red flag!
Sorry.
Red flag, Jim.
That's a red flag.
Yeah, well, look.
I mean, when he called into Hannity, it was a shattering experience for me, Michael.
Because here he is endorsing genocide.
His only complaint is they're not killing the Palestinians fast enough.
And he's objecting to protesters.
I mean, polling protests are as American as apple pie, Michael.
I agree.
I'm a free speech kind of guy, and I'm all for protesting no matter what.
I mean, you could protest.
That's what this country was based upon.
You're absolutely right.
And if we don't have the First Amendment, if we can't express our opinion about anything, it ain't the USA.
And the fact that they are telling us what we can or can't say, Jim, again, that is insane.
When does it ever end?
You know, when does it end, Jim?
Michael, you're right.
You're spot on.
I just can't imagine what would be next, Jim.
Once another nation tells us what to do, I mean, I thought we were America.
Listen, remember, our Congress is Israeli occupied territory.
And, you know, many think we're really the United States of Israel.
We might as well be.
Yet they so dominate our country.
We got to get there is a cancer we got to get rid of.
But it isn't Hamas.
And it most certainly is not the Palestinians.
It's Those who are infecting our government, who are Israeli operatives, who are sabotaging the Constitution and the integrity of the United States.
Michael, I don't know if I ever told you, the very first political speech I ever gave, this was in 2008, at a Ron Paul Freedom Rally in Washington, D.C., on the grass.
Outside the Capitol, I gave a talk that would later be published under the title 9-11 and the neocon agenda, in which I explained that no dual citizen Should ever be allowed into a decision-making or policy-shaping position in the American government, because you cannot know that their loyalty to the other state doesn't outweigh their loyalty to the United States.
And that's what we got.
We got one after another dual U.S.-Israeli citizen in both Trump cabinet and Biden.
I mean, they're there in super abundance.
And they're effing up the country for the benefit of Israel.
There's no way around it.
There really isn't.
I mean, we've come to that point.
And as I've told many, I told a lot of people listening to this program and friends and family that the world will turn on Israel eventually.
And that's kind of what we're sort of seeing right now.
I think we're on the verge.
It didn't need to happen though, Jim.
I think, in my opinion, this was a slow sort of build-up to what exactly was eventually going to happen.
Yes.
Yeah, I think so too, Michael.
I mean, look how blatant it's been.
Four months of non-stop genocide.
We're seeing it on TV every single day.
Are you kidding me?
Right.
And for the record, we don't dislike or hate the normal Jewish people out there in the world.
In case anyone thinks we dislike the Jews out there.
We don't hate the Jews.
Trust me.
We just dislike and hate government.
And that's what we're talking about here.
Just to clarify.
My closest friend in college was a Jew.
One of my closest friends in Lexington was a Jew.
She was a woman.
She was wonderful.
The head of the department was hired on the Duluth campus of the University of Minnesota Jew.
Liked the guy tremendously.
It was an interesting conversation we had comparing Judaism and Christianity.
He made the point—and philosophy and religion is one of his areas, not mine, but his—that He said in Judaism, there are restrictions on food, but no restrictions on sex.
In Christianity, there are restrictions on sex, but no restrictions on food.
That's pretty damn interesting.
And you know, Tel Aviv has a reputation of being the gay capital of the universe.
Yes, and the gateway for pedophiles too, but that's a whole nother darker issue.
Yeah.
It's pretty, pretty gross.
Bad stuff, I agree, gross.
I just don't understand why our country sort of supports the Ukraine and Israel to that extent.
It's mind-boggling, the fact that we give them so much money all the time.
Oh, I know.
And they're now looting.
I mean, this Ukraine thing is just looting.
This is why Joe Biden is of such a weak character.
He's allowing a foreign government to bully him around, essentially.
He's just a puppet.
He's not even the real guy.
I mean, I'll tell you, I went back and I got old video of the real Joe, like from 2008.
And the real Joe is very articulate.
He comes across as highly intelligent, uses his hands and his gestures all the time, just as do I. This guy Biden, no gestures, no affect.
Not highly intelligent.
Totally different guy and it's not just talking about the real guy having gotten older.
I'm saying this is a totally different person.
It does seem like a very different guy from back even going to let's say 2008.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I actually got video from 2008.
Very different guy.
Very animated and expressive and blah blah blah and this guy is none of the above.
Even the first time I heard of Joe Biden, I thought, wait a minute, how is he even in this?
I remember him from the time when he was talking about racial jungle gyms.
That he says he didn't want his kids to go to school in a racial jungle gym.
I remember that quote from back in the day.
Kind of bizarre, isn't it?
It is, but that was his true nature.
Yeah, it turns out now.
I mean, how is this going to play out?
I do not believe Biden is going to be on the ticket for the election in November.
I sure hope not.
I mean, the last one was crazy, as you said, Jim, and that alludes to the fact that he was a lot more popular than Obama, which I find hard to believe, Jim.
Yeah, it's all ridiculous.
His actual bullying is like about 8% approval, if the truth be known.
It's very interesting.
R.F.K.
Jr.
had Zogby do a massive survey.
Over 26,000 voters were sampled in all 50 states because he wanted to get an analysis of how the Electoral College vote was playing out.
Remember, Hillary had the popular vote going into 2016.
But she didn't have the Electoral College vote.
Because you got, you know, massive numbers in the big Democrat cities, which drive up numbers overall, but she didn't have them distributed the right way.
But Trump won, and it was largely because of the turnout in rural areas supporting Trump.
But do you think anyone actually would vote for Hillary, though?
She seems like an insufferable woman.
Why, no.
I'll tell you, if they'd let Bernie Bernie actually won 13 primaries.
They switched over to Hillary to make her the candidate.
I think Bernie would have had an actual chance to win that election if they'd allowed him to run.
Right.
And by the way, Jim, just on that page alone, I'm just curious to get your opinion.
Do you think America will ever see a woman become President of the United States?
Oh yeah, I do believe.
Eventually.
Yeah, yeah.
I've even been inclined to think that Trump's going to run with Tulsi Gabbard and that Tulsi's just a very formidable person, and I think she'd probably make a really quite good president.
We can fault her for some positions she seems to have taken in the past, but she's got military experience and she's non-ideological.
She's a very clear thinker.
I'm impressed with Tulsi on multiple grounds now.
She's been faulted for being a gun grabber, but I think she's educable.
I mean, once you learn that Americans use guns for defensive purposes to protect themselves from assailants millions of times every year.
Word.
Saving an estimated 200,000 lives per annum, Michael.
And compare that Pretty much.
With the gun violence deaths in the U.S., which run around 80,000 a year, more than half of which are suicides.
So you're talking about saving five times as many lives from the defensive use of guns as are taken by mostly street gangs.
I mean, it's mostly black gang members and Latino gang members shooting each other.
Pretty much.
Statistically, yes.
Get this.
If you subtracted the gun violence in five Democrat cities where they have an open gun, then out of the like 143 nations in the world, America would come in like 150.
In other words, we'd be fourth from the bottom in gun violence if you just subtracted the five most violent Democrat-controlled cities.
In other words, we don't suffer from an epidemic of gun violence.
It's the opposite.
Indeed, it turns out worldwide, the more gun ownership, the lower the homicide rate.
It was illustrated very nicely in Brazil of late, Michael, because you had a hard gun guy who was replaced by a soft gun guy, and when the soft gun guy came in, the homicide rate dropped.
Now, he was given the boot, and they got a hard guy, and the homicide rate has gone back up.
We are just propagandized by Democrat bullshit that is endless about gun control.
It's really because they can't take over America if America is heavily harmed, and they want to take over America.
I am talking again about a Zionist conspiracy to destroy What has been in the past the strongest independent nation in the world, but we're sagging, we're lagging, we're falling apart.
It's interesting.
It's interesting, Jim, and I got to point out to you the hypocrisy and I guess even the blindness of some of these folks that listen to conservative media and consume Fox News and mostly the mainstream people that follow the news so heavily.
A lot of them are being manipulated.
To supporting Israel.
A lot of the media they consume are by folks that want dual citizenship or at least have it already.
People like Mark Levin and what's the other gentleman's name?
Who's of course Jewish.
Right, the other dude that was on Fox News, Glenn Beck, another man who basically is going to become a dual citizen eventually.
And a lot of them are fooled into these characters and, you know, the fact that a lot of them oppose a lot of these agendas that you're seeing, the LGBTQ, you know, the whole homosexual thing, Basically, they claim they're against it, but the people that are pushing those narratives are, you know who, Jim?
It's the same people pushing these narratives, and they don't realize it yet.
Yeah.
Well, get this out, this Zogby poll.
This is the largest sample ever, I think, in American political history.
26 plus thousand?
Give me a break!
If you had RFK running against Biden, he wipes him out.
367 electoral votes to 171.
It's like a Reagan-sized blowout.
Now, if you have RFK Jr.
against Donald Trump, he just gets by with 270 to 268.
That's the narrowest of margins.
If you have Trump running against Biden, Trump beats him, but only by 50, 294 to 244.
Now, what I think is going to happen, of course, Biden, I'm convinced, is not even going to be on the ticket.
Most likely, I think he'll be replaced by Gavin Newsom with Michelle as his running mate.
That's my bet.
And we'll find out if How Americans feel about voting for a man with breast implants and a huge shaving wheel.
Good God.
The visual.
I think Trump's support is going to drop because of this attack on the protesters and support for genocide.
How could it not?
I mean, if someone who has been as staunch a Trump supporter as Jim Fetzer is no longer supporting Trump.
It's a new day.
I cannot be alone, Michael.
This is a new day, Jim.
I never thought I'd see the day.
I never thought I'd hear these words coming from Jim, of all people.
But I mean, all the criticism, all the things that we found kind of unsavory in terms of how he backed Big Pharma, how a lot of things, draining of the swamp, which never actually occurred.
You know, he didn't really hold up his end of the bargain here.
And it's all kind of coming back to bite him in the ass.
Yeah, well, I can find an explanation for a lot of that, but I cannot excuse him for going whole hog on genocide.
That too.
No decent human being can support genocide, Michael.
I agree.
And if Donald Trump is supporting genocide, he's not a decent human being.
Well, it's the fact that, you know, the fact that Israel have already, they've committed war crimes already, and that's one of the reasons why we're not supplying them any more arms.
That's what's going on.
Well, listen, I'll tell you, that's only because of backlash.
But that is because, yes, that is backlash indeed.
We're not looking too good right now in terms of American politics on the broad spectrum.
We don't look good right now.
of american politics on the broad spectrum we are we don't look good right now second most criminal terrorist nation in the world unfortunately is following our gallant ally in the middle east israel so the middle east is uh you know i don't like the middle east i'm gonna be honest with you but i mean we you can't go around just uh destroying nations basically Yeah.
Get this, Michael.
Get this.
I'm listening.
Go ahead.
John McCain Jr.
has made a brilliant move.
He has challenged Trump to a debate.
He's challenged Trump to a debate at the Libertarian National Convention, which is going to be at the end of the month.
Interesting.
I mean, from May 23rd to May 25th in Washington, D.C.
I don't know how Trump can decline without looking like he's a coward.
Yeah, that's interesting.
I had no idea about this composition here.
But, you know, at the same time, the Kennedy family has sold him out.
They've endorsed Biden.
The Kennedy family is into us?
Biden?
Really?
This is stupidity.
This is unbelievable.
This is a devolution of the Kennedys.
And by the way, Jim, for the record, answer if you want to, but I'm curious now, Jim, since we are talking about Trump, are you going to be voting for him this time around?
Oh, I think I'm probably going to be voting for R.K.
Jr.
If, in fact, he does run.
Yeah.
See, now, I think he made a mistake in not running as a Libertarian because he would have instantly been on all ballots in all 50 states.
Now, he's going to secure most of that.
But right now, I'm telling you how I think it's going to play out.
He's not a perfect candidate, but there are no perfect candidates.
He's been Unqualifiedly successful in exposing the Vax and believe it or not, just as Jimmy Dore was saying, Trump is still taking credit for the Vax and it's all for a good thing.
Yeah, that's not good from the eyes of those who really back Trump.
Yes, he's been pretty much purring around saying that for the last year or so at rallies, which is not a good look.
It's not a good look.
I'm not sure who his PR team are, but they should be paying attention.
Here are two or three recent developments.
AstraZeneca has pulled their COVID vax because of side effects.
Bill Gates has admitted that the pandemic was a hoax.
And we had another revelation, I think it was from Pfizer, that there are nanobots in the vax.
I mean, it's all bad.
It's all bad.
It's all bad, Jim.
It's one of our worst fears about the past.
My goodness.
Jim, I know we are kind of over the time here, but I do want to thank you for being a part of the program, Jim.
You know, it's always an honor and pleasure to have you on here.
It's like old times again.
Yeah, you're a wonderful host.
I just love doing shows with you, Michael.
So this is a joy for me and I look forward to our next round.
Yeah, we're gonna do it again very, very soon, Jim.
And maybe on maybe on Paul McCartney or maybe with Or maybe with Jay Weidner and we talk about the moon landing in JFK.
That'd be great.
Whatever, I'm game for it.
All right.
I'm going to give him this episode here and we're going to work a few things out.
And yeah, Jim, I would love to have both of you on.
You and Jay Weidner.
It'd be a great discussion.
And I do want to thank you again.
And Jim, go ahead and plug the show and moonrockbooks.com.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I have, you know, I have 24 books in traditional academic areas, and then I have a dozen-plus in conspiracy research.
Eight of those were published with Moonrock Books, and you can get most of them at moonrockbooks.com.
They make great presents because people need to learn what's going on here, so check it out.
Some of them on JFK and 9-11 are available on Amazon.com as well.
But think about moonrockboots.com.
And Michael, it's just a joy to be here with you again, my friend.
Clockwise, my friend.
It's always amazing to have you on the program.
We have such a great time and we'll let the good times roll once again, my friend.
And Jim, you look great again for your age.
You know, you look, no, you don't look older than 50 years old, Jim.
You really don't.
Appreciate it, Michael.
You look 40 in my opinion, Jim.
You're looking fantastic, Jim.
Fun.
You got it, my friend.
Well, we'll talk again.
Still hanging in there.
Thanks, Michael.
You got it, brother.
Take care.
Take care.
Bye then.
And there he goes, boys and girls.
That was The Freight Train, Mr. Jim Fetzer.
I hope all of you appreciate that one.
I know I did.
That was amazing to have Jim back on the program.
It's always an honor and pleasure to have him here.
And I believe I am running late for yet another show that's going to be pre-recorded, unfortunately, with Mr. Gary Wayne.
So yes, we kind of have to cut this shorter than I was expecting.
But I will return.
Definitely.
And goodness gracious, time has flown by yet again.
And that's what happens, boys and girls.
Time is never on our side.
You'll learn that eventually.
Once again, boys and girls, always an honor and pleasure to do the program for you.
I will see you on the other side.
And with that said, the world is a mysterious place, and life itself is a mystery.
Until next time, good night.
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