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Dec. 23, 2023 - Jim Fetzer
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Q&A Session #4 - Carl Herman - Monique Lukens - Jim Fetzer
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Well, welcome back to the question period for the first three sessions of today's second day of our fourth annual Volkswagen Conspiracy Conference, featuring Monique Lukens, Carl Herman, and myself.
And Monique would like to add to the presentation we've just heard.
So, Monique, the floor is yours.
Perfect.
Thank you.
This is another clip that was Directed by Steve Rollins to like take a listen to it.
Body cam footage.
Just three seconds.
Listen what George Floyd is saying.
He just said, "I can't choke." Now, as being a professional actor, I was, I know that when you get into a very emotional scene sometimes, and if you don't have everything cemented in your mind, you will say something that does not make sense.
It just comes out.
Particularly if you have tried to memorize something, and you memorized it incorrectly.
I'm just questioning, is this what happened there?
You're saying he got off script, right, Monique?
He said, I can't choke.
Well, why would he have to choke?
There's no reason he would want to choke.
Good, good, good.
I also wanted to share this with you.
I did call Abilene Christian University, which is where Jaffet said he went, and he states that he played football.
He wasn't good, but he stated that his whole year went down, which was in 89.
If you'll notice, 1989 is not there.
Now there are there are other years that aren't there as well.
Particularly, not after, before.
He mentioned some of them.
And what?
Administration was saying was well not every Not every year has material.
That's true.
Every year has material after 2001 but the fact of the matter is that it just it to me it seemed odd that the 1989 would have dropped off and Jeff it absolutely went there and they were helpful these administrators if they know if they if
If they even knew maybe they didn't know but and I think that they were helping me because I'm I'm I'm saying you're a Christian University Shouldn't it be out there?
Like if if Jaffet is not telling the truth, should we know why he's not telling the truth Would you want that on your reputation there?
Here's the last thing I wanted to share This seems like it may be George Floyd's Last Facebook page, possibly.
It drops off after 2016.
Oh, and by the way- George!
What's that?
Go ahead.
No, you go ahead.
There's like 10 George Floyds, by the way, in classmates.com, which I had to get because last year I was organizing my high school reunion, and I called them to tell them, like, take some of these down, they won't do it.
They're like, oh, well, we don't know whatever.
So I'm saying it could be fake, could be, but it seems more real than maybe not.
All right.
Well, we do have several questions for you, Monique.
Let me see here.
Here's a Edward Hutzak, and in the People Time magazine, Floyd family photo, taken in 1974, you claim George Floyd would have been one year old, meaning born in 1973.
What year is it as to 1992 championship game?
Then Floyd George would have been 19.
More plausible, but still a little old for a high school player.
Comments?
Yeah, I actually did look that one up.
Thank you.
you you can be what was it 19 if it wasn't past a certain month or year he would have been yeah he I looked it up I can't I I can't remember, but it was plausible.
Absolutely, it was.
And the narrative states that he was born in 1973, and he had to be held back a year.
That's the narrative.
I did call that high school, and I did a public records request, and they didn't give me the name Floyd George.
I asked for both George Floyd, Lloyd George, all they had was what they gave me.
So, I mean, I'm wondering again, you know, Miriam has said that sometimes people are just used, they don't even know.
And then I do think that some people may know.
And apparently, Josh thinks that the whole town of Temple knows, because they went to that game.
There's 25,000 people that attended that football game.
Well, it's like the whole town of Newtown knows that Sandy Hook was a FEMA drill, because they profited from it massively.
Now, here's the same participant asking a question simpler.
If Floyd George was born in 1967, now you're saying actually 73, so there's a six-year discrepancy.
Right, 67 is what Jaffet said, yeah, 67.
He would have been 25 years old at the time of the 1992 Texas State Championship football game.
25 is too old for a high school player, too old for 99% of college players, too.
I take it you agree with him.
I agree with that.
So, Jeff, it states that that is not his George Floyd.
That's Floyd George.
He made that very clear at that high school.
He also states that they put a different head on a body, and I have that photo, but I don't have it right here for you to see.
So, Jaffet claims that the real George Floyd went to Texas A&I, not A&M, A&I, it was like a junior college or whatnot, and that he played against him, and that in the hospital he was
Talking to him right before he passed away of a synthetic marijuana reaction Could Jaffet be not telling the truth There's always that possibility, but I am gonna put that interview there, and I think you can You know think think for yourself.
I don't think that he's lying now Marion thinks that he's telling half-truths and And I did see on his record that there's something from before, but that doesn't mean that he was not telling the truth this time.
Interestingly enough, right before the show, I wanted to see if there was anything new on him.
And there was an article that was stating that his practice has been destroyed.
I think it was like last year now.
There were articles that state he was arrested for picking up a couple of non documented immigrants and they stated that Law enforcement stated that he was trafficking.
But Jaffet states that he put them in there, they approached him for a ride, and then before you know it two others came out and he didn't know what to do.
And so there's like four people in the car with Jaffet and he's starting to like speed and wave his hand so that he could be stopped by law enforcement because he's scared.
And he states that that is what happened.
That's in articles.
I did call around To find him.
I finally got a jail or a station that said, yeah, he was released.
I think he was in there for six days if I'm not mistaken.
Jaffet had, it was funny because he didn't have a actual professional recording when I tried to call him some other times.
So that was questionable.
He did have a website though.
That's that's taken down now.
So, and he was a real person for sure.
I had a conversation with him, like, outside of the George Floyd thing.
I saw that there was a new vegan restaurant that just happened in his area, and I thought maybe that would spark the conversation.
But anyway, yeah.
Anything else?
Yeah, we have the same Edwards all over this.
The person attorney Jabot claims died in 2016 that he was representing, number one.
Why was Jabot his lawyer?
Number two, what was the nature of the representation?
Number three, what was the date of birth of Jabot's client, Floyd?
Right.
So Marion had questions on, um, Like the legal records as well, which he should have.
But Jaffa claims he was born in 1967, his George Floyd.
And what happened is he was called to be his ad litem, like a conservator, because he was poor.
And he states, Jaffa, that he was buried, or his ashes, at a, it was called Duncan Ceremony, Nicknamed Flowers Bluff, or Buff, Flowers Bluff, which I called down there, there was no record of him.
But again, folks, that doesn't mean that this didn't happen, as Jaffet states.
Jaffet states that his accounts went down at the county.
He states that his name went down for a bit at the Texas bar.
And as you see right there on that website, that is Abilene Christian University.
1989 is missing, despite what the administrators say.
I just question why is it just, why is there just a gap?
And I have a friend who is a computer programmer and he gave some response that made sense, but to me I still question it.
You know, you see bullies.
Why is it taken off?
Because they're concealing evidence!
Exactly!
I don't think there's ever any doubt.
One of the administrators at Abilene Christian, he was an attorney too, so.
Yeah, he was a little bit, I thought, a little bit snarky when I first approached.
But anyway, I think it's a cover-up.
So that's the thing.
That's the difference between me and Marion.
I still feel that there are no legs.
I feel that nobody passed away.
I'm hoping nobody passed away, but she does.
But I will say with more and more content, you kind of start getting this picture.
Well, maybe he did.
And, you know, you start confusing yourself too, which she's not confusing herself.
I mean, it's great that she's putting all this information out there.
And if you saw my presentation last year, I'm having new content, but you can.
But a little kid who's in kindergarten could get it right away.
Mommy, no legs!
Yeah.
Bear in mind that Chauvin's trial, they introduced the medical examiner report that he'd actually died from a fentanyl overdose, one of the symptoms of which is difficulty breathing.
So if he were dying from a fentanyl overdose as opposed to Chauvin kneeling, and the M.A.
explained too that there were no bruises on his neck, Then you get symptoms similar to those attributed to this case, so I'm inclined to think the whole thing was staged, but if there's a dead George Floyd and it wasn't from Chauvin kneeling on his neck, I want to invite Carl if he'd like to comment on the whole George Floyd fiasco, because it truly was a socially Politically significant event.
It led to the whole defund the police movement, which is about as absurd a political slogan as I've ever encountered in my life.
Carl, I just want to invite your comments.
Yeah, we covered this on Need to Know News when it happened and the no legs on the gurney.
We have sufficient evidence and the legal standard is also the top academic and professional standard or prima facie evidence is that if you can put Fourth, the case that on its face is accurate, then that is legally sufficient and it's legally sufficient or sufficient for us to withdraw consent.
As a school teacher, the BLM thing led to staff trainings.
And then the official implementation of that whites are somehow racist.
And then it began the Orwellian reverse racism that we experienced in our school training for critical race theory.
I raised the point to colleagues is that and you can as a school teacher and through my personal experience, you can quantify that some Based upon their parents' education level and with their income, you can make excellent predictions for anticipated school performance.
And so all of that history is relevant, and the data seems to support it, I would tell colleagues.
But what we really need, instead of CRT, Critical Race Theory, we need COT, Critical Oligarch Theory, of the 1% owning more assets than the 99%.
That got me about as far as everything else, though.
Carl, that's awesome.
And I must state that I did state it was discrimination, and I didn't watch one of the trainings.
And it's not reverse racism.
It's just complete racism.
It is.
And nobody likes to be told that they're bad just for what they look like.
This is, you know, this is kindergarten 101.
We just don't do that to people.
And if certain races want to be together because they feel more, um, they feel more connected or whatnot.
I mean, we must admit there's certain groups of people and they just feel more connected.
If black people want to have, you know, private gatherings or, you know, Latinos or what, that's fine.
But don't go slapping it in the face that we are all bad.
Because at this point many of our us are mixed as well.
So that so then what does that tell us?
It's just so overall bad and then they get into this SEL social emotional learning, which I actually like some of it, you know calms the students down it calms me down But it's like why why would you want to affirm yourself?
And then you're seeing something that is telling you that you know, you're you're not you're not good.
You're not worthy It's just wrong.
Thank you, Carl We do have a question about Ronald Rumsfeld's announcement the day before 9-11 of the missing $2.3 trillion.
Here, I'll read the question.
Eric Goodhart, Jim, ever since 9-10-2001, when I was sitting in a hotel room in Chicago after my flight from LA to Boston was grounded, I've wondered why Rumsfeld—well, he actually says the date 9-12, and maybe he does mean the day after when he was grounded and he was thinking about Rumsfeld making the announcement, so I don't mean to misrepresent the facts.
I have wondered why Rumsfeld was instructed to say, our financial systems are decades old.
According to some estimates, we cannot track 2.3 trillion dollars in transactions because it's stored on dozens of different technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.
Knowing, of course, Eric writes, that he knew what was scheduled to happen the next day, why even report it?
Of course, the fact-checkers deny that he said that, or it was simply an error in the accounting given the inadequate accounting system, but why even mention it?
My guess is he said it because it would lay the groundwork for an argument of needing more money to update the accounting system.
What do I say?
And I can see now it was the day after that your flight was grounded, as were so many others.
And my response, Eric, is that Of course he knew what was going to happen the following day.
He had a big problem with a missing 2.3 trill, and he wanted to bury it.
And he realized that if he announced it this day, which was Monday, and got it out there, that it would be buried by the events of the following day.
And therefore, you know, no one would even come back to think about it.
So it was, in my opinion, it was just a way of disposing of a problem.
Because otherwise, Independently of 9-11, it would have been a huge story, and I'd say today—and Carl can follow up—the Pentagon loses track of trillions.
Now, remember, the controller, the chief financial officer of the Pentagon at the time was a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, and I suspect Most, if not all, that 2.3 trail went to Tel Aviv.
Carl, your thoughts?
Yeah, with that, My wife is a Navy vet and she was, for seven years, she was at Pearl Harbor helping to manage the Pacific Fleet and their computer systems.
And the military works with computers that are illegal to use in the commercial markets.
And my wife is so good at what she does is that she was invited to help construct the security system, computer security system for the White House.
But at that time, she realized that the U.S.
military was muscle of an empire and she declined.
But regarding with that bullshit, saying that, oh, I guess the data is just... No.
You have redundant, separately stored data centers.
Everybody in the business knows that.
So it's just a lie like everything else.
Monty has a question for you, Carl.
What was a website you scrolled through that contained many videos?
It could have been that you were discussing Tartaria.
Do you think this Tartaria stuff is credible?
It's my website, carlb.blogspot.com, and for Tartaria, that's just what researchers were calling it, and yeah, it is totally credible.
My dad was a mechanical engineer, and the claimed construction times for these buildings and these world fairs is impossible.
Doable.
And it looks, therefore, like in the article that I gave and with the news show I think it was October the 6th.
Let me just take a quick look and see when that was.
October 25th, 2023 for Need to Know News.
And you can just look it up and look around for yourself.
At the time I wrote the article, I gave the best resources that I found to educate myself.
But it looks like an advanced civilization that was able to tap into etheric energy.
For free energy and was expert or at least practicing cymatics, the energy pattern that I forget the Japanese researcher, but the Japanese researcher found that if you flash freeze water under just certain emotional conditions, like telling the water, I love you, then that frequency pattern will be visible with the flash frozen water into the beautiful cymatic patterns.
And conversely, if you tell the water, I hate you, blah, blah, blah, then you're going to get discordant.
And therefore we go into the power of prayer and our thoughts and our emotional conditions.
So Tartaria seems to be practicing with those huge organs and sound patterns, the ability to maybe even heal our organs.
I don't know.
There's a lot of speculation, but I'm telling you, it's absolutely Credible and the strongest evidence that I can tell you is just that the official story, just like everything else, it is the official stories that can be refuted.
So those World Fairs were not temporary buildings.
They didn't do that at Chicago World's Fair in a little more than two years from just saying, let's have a World's Fair and then have hundreds of buildings like that.
Now as to what the actual truth was, what happened, who were those people, how many resets have been there, that is harder to point to.
And I am very much looking forward to Upon Our Victory.
I think that a lot of the secrets are going to be underneath the Vatican Library and the Smithsonian.
I think that scene in Indiana Jones where they take the ark into the storage house where they have a bunch of stuff like that.
I think there's a bunch of stuff like that and we don't have access to it.
Very good, Carl.
Bonnie also has a question for me.
Having missed the first part of my presentation, so she might be mistaken, is a takeaway from mine that the planes were holograms and that mini-nukes were used to destroy the Twin Towers.
Joe Olson, Bonnie, who is going to be speaking, not only had a cold, he had tremendous difficulty making access, and I wanted to give him You know, an excuse.
It was going to be above and beyond and very difficult.
So I'm going to feature him on my show subsequently to give the presentation he was unable to present today.
But I had prepared a presentation in case we lost one of our speakers about how all four of the crash sites on 9-11 were fabricated or faked, albeit in different ways.
Now, it turns out, as I was reporting, Edward Hendry brilliantly captured the Bureau of Transportation Statistics pages showing that Flight 11, North Tower, and Flight 77, Pentagon, were not even scheduled that day.
They were not in the air.
I also explained how pilots for 9-11 Truth had tracked Flight 93, which allegedly crashed in Shanksville and it turned out to be over Champaign-Urbana.
In the air, after it officially crashed in Shanksville, and similarly for Flight 175 that was over Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, after it officially hit the South Tower, and that I'd also obtained FAA registration data showing that the planes, the physical planes used for 93 and 175,
We're not even deregistered or formally taken out of service until 28 September 2005.
So how can planes that weren't even in the air have crashed on 9-11 and how can planes that crashed on 9-11 have still been in the air four years later?
Now, What's known as no-planes theory, which sounds absurd on its face, because, I mean, we saw the planes, didn't we?
Sounds absurd on its face.
Really, it consists of four theses.
That Flight 11 didn't hit the North Tower, that 77 didn't hit the Pentagon, that 93 didn't crash in Shanksville, that 175 didn't hit the South Tower.
And I was proving each of those four contentions to be true, and that planes, as were involved, were part of the deceit or the deception.
For example, that Norman Mineta reported, I mean, in this underground bunker beneath the White House, that an aide to Dick Cheney had come up and said, Sir, it's 50 miles out.
Sir, it's 40 miles out.
Sir, it's 30 miles out.
Does the order still stand?
And Cheney whipped around and said, of course the order still stands.
Have you heard anything to the contrary?
And the order had to be to not shoot down a plane that was flying toward the Pentagon on a different trip than the official trajectory, but to create the visual impression of a plane having headed toward and even hit the Pentagon when it swerved over the Pentagon at the same time an explosion took place, which is now confirmed by witnesses that the
The investigative team identified who saw a plane actually approach the Pentagon from the north when the official account had it on the south, and where a friend of mine in JFK Research had a friend who was a trucker who was in front of the Pentagon at the time, a guy named Dave Ball, who actually watched a plane swerve over the Pentagon at the same time the explosion took place, and where I tried to get him on the air.
Because I knew that would keep him safe.
But he was reluctant, and before I could talk him into it, he was found dead in an abandoned building.
It was very like Barry Jennings, who was in Building 7 that morning, hurling explosions, going off at a stairwell, blown out from under him, was stepping over dead bodies.
In relation to the NASA's belated report on Building 7, because it wasn't part of the official original for which they were severely criticized, and they claim it was from his very modest fires.
Well, Barry Jennings was in the position to contradict it.
Lo and behold, Barry Jennings died mysteriously just like two days before the NST released this report, which he could have attested to be false based on his own personal knowledge.
Indeed, Historically, in relation to steel structure high-rises skyscrapers, no steel structure high-rise has collapsed before 9-11, no steel structure high-rise collapsed after 9-11, and no steel structure high-rise collapsed on 9-11.
I wasn't talking about the modes of destruction, but I did mention at the end the contrast between Buildings 1 and 2, the Twin Towers, which are blowing apart in every direction.
All the floors remain stationary, being turned into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust, which, by the way, is a signature of the use of nuclear devices.
And having no pile of debris.
There should have been 13 and a half floors of debris if there were any kind of collapse here.
Contrast with building 7.
47 floors.
5 and a half floors of debris.
All the floors are coming at the same time.
They're not blowing apart in every direction.
Not being converted into millions of yards of very fine dust.
So, you know, you have this stunning difference between the modes of demolition of the Twin Towers and the mode of demolition of Building 7, which was indeed a classic controlled demolition that left 12% of 47 five-and-a-half floors to compare.
But my emphasis here was on how they faked The crash sites and I was fairly detailed about it and especially in New York how we have a new footage.
That shows a whole crowd watching as 175 comes toward the building.
And this is very important because there are three theories of how it was done, given there are no collision effects.
In other words, we're witnessing a physical impossibility.
An airliner can't crash into a building like that and not have collision effects.
Body seats, luggage, wings, tail should have fallen to the ground.
We have photographs beneath the facade of both the North and the South Tower.
There are no body seats, luggage, wings, tail falling to the ground.
And while the engines could enter, we discover at Church and Murray there was an engine that was a plant.
It wasn't even in use, a type of engine not even in use.
And we had five guys wearing FBI vests, and that suggests rather strong favor of FBI.
Who appeared to have planted the agent.
So everything about it is fraudulent.
And if you'd like more about any detailed aspect, I was going through, in fact, at the Pentagon, and there is a video clip I ought to have included.
It was an unmanned aerial vehicle that approached the building and fired a missile into it, into the very section of the West Wing that had just been renovated to make it nuclear-resistant, so that when they—Donald Rumsfeld, in the wake of that 2.3 announcement, had the section chief for the missing 2.3 bring all the documents and records and all the experts into the West Wing so the following day he could take them out and destroy it all, which is what he did, using a
A missile filed by an unmanned aerial vehicle, a Global Hawk, and this Camino has done absolutely brilliant work on this, so that the whole problem would simply disappear.
And we, as I say, we even have the video, and I was preparing this this morning just in anticipation in case we had a missing I have a good anecdote of teaching 9-11 to high school juniors.
Joe couldn't make it, but it wasn't primarily on the modes of destruction of the building.
It was on faking the aircrafts.
If you got any further questions, let me know.
I have a good anecdote of teaching 9-11 to high school juniors.
Want to hear it?
Yeah.
Okay.
So 2004, Foothill High School, Pleasanton, California, high school juniors were...
I go to my school principal and I say, I'd like to present counter theories to the official theory on 9-11, and I'm going to send all the information I'm going to share to the parents ahead of time, invite any participation from them.
You got any problem with that?
He says, nah, just send both parts of the story.
And I said, great, I'll send you everything that I'm sending.
So in inviting the parents, And the families to help I get an acceptance.
These are juniors, 11th graders, and this guy is a former military pilot and a United current pilot who wanted to come in and explain how the story was absolutely true and that a plane could cause that damage.
So I had presented all of the evidence that was available then which completely refuted the story and none of the students could give an explanation about how the government story could be true.
And then this guy comes in and he attempts to explain And he, uh, former military, okay?
And I'm sitting at the back of the room.
I see his duping delight.
And his daughter is there.
Now, the daughter is seeing her, and I can tell they're close.
I can tell they care about each other.
The daughter is witnessing her own father's failed presentation that is not hitting at any of the points.
Everybody sees it.
And at the end of his presentation, he's arguing he and he had figures and slides and he said the amount of fuel and the end of the presentation, students ask questions, but there wasn't very much support for the guy.
And I said, okay, sir, I so appreciate you coming in.
Let me make sure that I understand your argument.
That the amount of fuel could cause temperatures hot enough.
To cause a simultaneous uniform structural failure to bring down a floor and that you admitted you don't have the technical expertise of what could happen after that.
But you're saying that could happen in an airplane despite the physical evidence of none of the steel removed from that showing the exposure of temperatures.
Even I believe at the highest temperature of the steel was like 700 degrees Fahrenheit.
And yet you're going to Yeah, the billowing black smoke showed it was an oxygen-deprived fire.
It was about 1,000 degrees too low at the max.
Even if it had not been oxygen-deprived, it would have been 1,000 degrees too low to melt steel.
And if you had a partial collapse, it would have been asymmetrical, and it would have been halted virtually immediately.
Chuck Baldwin, who was a high school math and physics and chemistry teacher, did a calculation, and for every unit of downward force, there were like 199 units of upward force.
It wasn't even possible for the Twin Towers to collapse.
It was not even physically possible.
Thus do they play the American people for gullible saps.
Continue, Carl.
Yeah, and I had the recording of the firefighters who had trudged all the way up the staircases with the hose, and the guy's saying, yeah, a couple small fires, two hoses will knock it down.
Right.
And, you know, I'm saying this stuff, laying out the evidence, and the guy's face is falling, this former military pilot, and his eyes are begging me.
Please, sir, do not kill me.
And I'm recognizing this, and I glance at the daughter, and the daughter is looking scared, and all the students are at the edge of their seat.
And so I finish saying that and say, sir, do I understand your testimony correctly?
And he nods his head and says, yes.
And now I got to decide what to do.
And I simply said, sir, thank you so much for your professional expertise and sharing what you chose to say with us.
And then I kind of grinned at him and turned to the students and said, you have received the most expert presentation of what you can expect from the official sources.
And you, young historians, young citizens, With 70 years to engage in civics, you'll have to determine for yourself, just as a jury member does, what the facts are and then what you're going to do about it.
And the guy was so relieved.
And the guy genuinely shook my hand.
I just looked him in the eye.
I chose not to say anything, and that was my first year teaching at that district in Pleasanton, and my wife had received a huge promotion to manage a section of wherever she was working back then in the Southwest that we were going to move.
I had to resign from that school district, but I might have found out that that presentation might have gotten me fired yet another time.
You made this a circumvent disaster, Carl.
We have another question about 9-11 and then a question about Sandy Hook.
I'll take the 9-11 first.
Kurt Miller writes, My belief is that the Pentagon was actually the primary target.
Rumsfeld's announcement makes complete sense.
That was the new hardened SCIF housing, the financial records of deep black programs.
The missile took out the records, making it impossible to do an audit of where the money went.
I think that's right, as far as the destruction at the Pentagon.
They had to hit the Pentagon to make it an act of war.
It would just have been a terrorist attack if it had only been on the World Trade Center.
But bear in mind, Bibi Netanyahu and Larry Silverstein are buddies.
They spoke every Sunday, and Larry took possession of the World Trade Center just six weeks before.
He fired the security firm that had looked after it since it opened in 1970.
Replace it with an Israeli firm.
Renegotiate his insurance contract so he had a terrorist clause so he could claim double indemnity because there were two planes, two attacks.
Collected $4.5 billion on a $114 million investment.
He had a problem because they were loaded with asbestos.
You couldn't bring them down by classic controlled demolition without exposing all the asbestos.
We're not allowed to do that by law.
Putting up steel scaffolding around each building would have run about a billion bucks a piece.
So he had the very convenient benefit of a destruction of his building to contribute to the war on behalf of Israel against the modern Arab states.
It served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region, which was the whole idea.
So I think it was a package that all these elements fit together.
Shanksville's kind of peculiar.
I can't really account for that, except they wanted to have this story of heroism and all these phony calls and, you know, let's roll and take secure.
So I think that was just heroics.
And by the way, there's a Professor on the Department of Faculty at the University of Virginia, where I taught twice in the Department of Philosophy by Philip Zelikow, who became the executive director of the 9-11 Commission.
I think that was very appropriate, because Zelikow's background In the Academy, before he came into government, was it Creation and Maintenance of Public Myths, M-Y-T-H-S, and that's what we got on 9-11.
Zellico, there were complaints that finished a draft of the final report a year before he shared it with any members of staff.
If you want to know who made up his fantasy, my nominee for the award I also have a question here from William Bukataty about Sandy Hook.
Mr. Jefferson's University.
I also have a question here from William Bookatati about Sandy Hook, Jim regarding Sandy Hook.
Wolfgang told me he was named as a co-defendant on Connecticut, Alexander, you know, A.J. Alexander.
Alex Jones lawsuit.
Upon talking to attorney Norm Pettis and asking Norm to depose him, Wolfgang never heard another word.
Plus, a 2012 FBI crime, Table 8, Well, let me say about Wolfgang.
He and I traveled together to Newtown in 2014.
They were not happy to see us.
We visited the school that had already been demolished.
Well, let me say about Wolfgang.
He and I traveled together to Newtown in 2014.
They were not happy to see us.
We visited the school had already been demolished.
We visited, you know, he wanted to go to where the funds, the 27 million were deposited by law.
They sent over six or eight Newtown cops to block him from entering to look at funds to which he had legal access.
We later went to the police department because three of the top guys were involved and we wanted to talk to them, but they wouldn't talk to us.
We had lunch after lunch.
As I say, we did visit where the school had been reduced to dirt clods and spoke at a school board meeting that evening.
That's why we timed it.
We had three minutes to speak, and you can find our presentations online.
As far as Norm Pettis, I sought to intervene In the Remington lawsuit, in both of AJ's lawsuits, as an amicus, to present all the evidence I had that nobody died at Sandy Hook.
I even wrote directly to Norm Pettis, but he was no more keen on having me appear in defense of Alex Jones than he was Wolfgang Helbig, so you figure it out.
And now, of course, we have this situation where Wolfgang, I mean, where Alex, Is claiming that he was misled by the professor, me, and the school safety expert, Wolfgang.
And he was just reporting what we said, but he didn't say it at the time.
And moreover, in his deposition, a video deposition in Connecticut, he said, never read the book.
Nobody died at Sandy Hook, which frankly is absurd.
I have a colleague who contributed to the book, says, don't believe that.
He reads everything.
And it may well be that Alex Jones is a voracious reader.
But to be taking a stand on a complex, controversial issue like Sandy Hook and not reading the only objective scientific book published on it, with 13 contributors, including six PhDs, where we concluded this school had been closed by 2008, that there were no students or teachers there, and that it had been a FEMA drill presented as mass murder to promote gun control, when we even had a FEMA manual I mean, this just staggers the mind.
And when he said that, it was so recent, I decided in addition to talking about JFK, I'd make half JFK and half a response to Alex Jones, because this is just absurd.
And as I mentioned during my presentation, I spent six months, it seems like a year, in very strong interaction with two of the participants.
One who'd been cast is Emily Parker.
Margaret Alice Coddle, and one who'd been cast is Victoria Soto, the teacher, whose real name is Victoria Rilio.
She's a daughter of the Newtown clerk.
Steve Lucia was our intermediary.
I like this guy tremendously.
He probably knows more about Sandy Hook than any other being live, and that even includes Eric Holder and the other participants who orchestrated the whole event.
But He actually came down, it turned out, to Newtown in 2006 after they closed a special needs school.
This was not an elementary school, even.
It was special needs—autistic kids, primarily.
And if you look at that iconic, they got their hands on their back.
That's how they were taught at the autistic school.
It's called the adventure school.
It's actually in between the firehouse and the supposed elementary school.
Nobody even knows it exists.
Well, they've been there.
They discovered it.
And that's how the kids are taught to, you know, walk together with their hands.
So they use kids from the adventure school to stage up photographs and they rearrange that photograph to get a better shot.
It goes on and on.
But if you want further confirmation, it wasn't even an elementary school.
Not only is the driveway design wrong, because it needed to be a U-shape so buses could come in and unload and go out just driving one way.
No traffic jams.
It doesn't even have a playground.
And they just say, ask yourself, how many elementary schools do you know where they don't even have a playground?
Listen, yeah, Carl, go ahead.
Regarding Wolfgang as a school teacher, I am unaware of anybody with more expertise than he, and he's raised a case study to demonstrate our condition.
So you have the number one expert asking sincere questions and being able to point to the slam-dunk evidence that we've all considered.
And yet, there he is, ostracized, isolated, marginalized, just like the rest of us.
Hence, we do need some help.
Otherwise, they're going to keep playing us.
Kurt, as a follow-up, any significant military operation will have a primary plan and multiple backups.
We should refrain from trying to determine the mechanism behind the Twin Towers collapse, dew, thermite, mini-nukes, etc.
At this point, Kurt, actually, I think all were involved, but the primary was mini-nukes in the sub-basement.
I'm pretty sure the physical mechanism was molecular decomposition, he says, caused by a dew with mini-nukes in the basement being a key element of his physics.
Very nice.
Very nice, Kurt.
Let's see what else we have.
William continues, yes, and trader AJ also told Elon, who was there at this interview with about 12 people, claims some of you are crazy and making things up.
No, we weren't making anything up.
And I've gone all the way to the Supreme Court about it, so if anyone wants to follow up, you know, there's a sample out there in the public record.
You guys were excellent.
I appreciate all the questions.
Outstanding.
We're going to take about a five-minute break, and then I'll introduce our next speaker.
And we'll continue with our second day of Fall Slides in Good Swearersey 2023.
Take a break.
Take a deep breath.
Get a cup of coffee.
Enjoy.
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