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Sept. 28, 2023 - Jim Fetzer
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RBN Authentic News (28 September 2023)
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*music* *music* *music* *music* Well, this is Jim Fetzer, your host on Authentic News right here on RBN Live.
It's the 28th day of September.
As I reported yesterday, real estate experts are raising big questions about the judge's valuation of Mar-a-Lago in the fraud case, which seems to have spun out of control.
There's an old rule of thumb.
With anything related to an attack on former President Trump, wait 48 hours and more information will come out that will raise questions about or debunk the original assertion.
Looks like that rule may apply to the judge's determination being widely publicized.
Just Arthur N. Garan.
Ruled former President Trump committed fraud by inflating the worth of his assets, including the monetary value of Merolago.
He cited a Palm Beach Assessor valuation arranged for 18 to 28 between 2011 and 22 industries, saying it failed to take into consideration fair market value.
Far from Trump's 1985 purchase of $10 million, $8 million less than what the judge declared it was worth today.
But real estate experts are raising questions, saying something is not right with the judge's determination of the worth of Mar-a-Lago.
The judge claimed Trump had inflated the worth.
It looks like the judge deflated or lowballed Mar-a-Lago's true worth.
One prominent Palm Beach real estate broker, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the New York Post, it's utterly delusional to think that property is only worth $18 million.
The Palm Beach Industry Insider added, if that property were on the market today, I would list it around $300 million minimum.
He also has a separate golf course minutes away.
Smaller properties nearby are running at 150.
To put it in perspective, a two-acre wooded lot, this is one with no buildings, no structure on it at 1980 South Ocean Boulevard, just five minutes from Mar-a-Lago, is currently listed for $150 million.
Mar-a-Lago, situated at 1100 South Ocean Boulevard, dwarfs this lot tenfold It operates a commercial business with around 500 members as part of the Golf Club.
A two-acre plot of land filled with trees and situated five minutes away, with no structures at all, is on the market for $150 mil.
150 mil, also nearby is a 2.3 acre plot at 1063-1071 North Ocean Boulevard on the market at a sky high 200 million.
I mean, it's outrageous.
As I've suggested now, this case seems to have spun completely out of control because what I did not know then is that the judge has gone far, far beyond any reasonable action declaring a discrepancy of this order of magnitude.
Can only be considered fraud and stripped Trump's business licenses.
Stunning!
A New York judge ruled Trump committed fraud by implying the value of his assets and revoked his business licenses in this state.
A New York judge only committed fraud.
The ruling came from Judge Arthur Engerrand of the Manhattan Supreme Court.
...who agreed with New York Attorney General Letitia James, Trump and his family business, the Trump Organization, made several false statements in financial documents to get better deals from lenders.
One example was Trump claimed his penthouse at the Trump Tower's 30,000 square feet when it was actually about 11,000.
Erdogan wrote that such a discrepancy By a real estate developer who had lived in his own apartment for decades, could only be considered fraud.
The judge also ordered the New York Business Certificate Trump Organization, any other businesses owned by the former president or family in the state, be canceled, and an independent third party be appointed to manage the dissolution of the canceled businesses.
This means Trump could lose control over some of his properties in New York, including Trump Tower.
Trump himself has responded.
This is not America.
Former President Trump shot back at a judge's ruling that he and his company had committed fraud by exaggerating his net worth, calling out the highly politicized Democrat judge for the ruling.
It is a terrible reminder That the radical left Democrats will stop at nothing in trying to prevent me and the American people from winning the 2024 presidential election.
He said in a set of lengthy statements Tuesday on Truth Social.
Regardless of party, we cannot let this happen in the United States of America.
I have Trump's statements on Truth Social.
Here's what he had to say.
I have been unfairly sued by the Trump-hating Democrat Attorney General of New York State, Letitia James, over the false fact that I inflated my financial statements in order to borrow money from banks, etc.
The judge in the case, Arthur F. Ingeron, refused to allow the case to go to the Commercial Division, where it belongs, because he's a Trump-hater beyond even A.G.
James.
who campaigned against me is viewing horrible inflammatory statements, which are false and defamatory.
I'm not even allowed a jury.
The facts of this case are a simple one.
I am worth much more than the numbers shown on my financial statement.
Two, I didn't include my most valuable asset, my brand.
Three, the banks were paid back in full sometimes early.
There were no defaults.
The banks made money.
They were represented by the best law firms and were very happy.
There were no victims.
Four.
On the front page of the financial statements, there's a strong disclaimer clause telling all not to rely on these.
It goes to a second page.
The disclaimer clause tells anyone reviewing the data, including financial institutions, To do their own research and analysis.
It is a non-reliance clause and could not be more clear.
Additionally to my being worth far more than shown in the fully disclaimed financial statements.
Again, not putting down a value for my biggest asset brand.
The company has hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and very little debt.
It is a great company that has been slandered and blind by this politically motivated witch hunt.
It is very unfair.
And I call for help from the highest courts in New York State or the federal system to intervene.
This is not America.
Frankly, I could not agree more.
The way in which these lawsuits have been filed Our clear attempts to interfere with the election of 2024 have no doubt about it.
None of them, to the best of my knowledge, and I've been paying pretty close attention, have any foundation in fact or in law.
I expect all of them are going to be rescinded.
They're going to be repealed.
They're going to be reversed.
But the problem is, meanwhile, damage is done by their having been rendered in the first place or even having been filed.
This is an outrageous effort to smear, to denigrate the sitting president's leading political opponent, who is way ahead in the polls, and even in national comparisons is running as far as 10 points ahead of Biden.
Who most of us believe will not even make it to the election.
He's going to be replaced because not only have his physical infirmities and his mental incompetence, but because the policies he's implemented, including the open border, which in my opinion is sufficient on its own to warrant his impeachment and removal from office.
Meanwhile, Turning to the war with Russia.
Better call Volga.
10,000 Ukrainian soldiers surrender using special radio frequency to escape the meat grinder.
Now, as Scott Ritter explained, where the counteroffensive was taking place is low ground.
They have lured the Ukrainian soldiers into the low ground.
The Russians have four different layers Of defense mechanism.
They haven't even breached the verse.
Meanwhile, they're being slaughtered in massive numbers.
Of 100,000, 70,000, 80,000 wind up casualties, most dead, many maimed, incapable of conducting further combat.
Ukrainian troops are surrendering in droves.
TASS, the Russian news agency, claims to exempt Moscow from a special radio frequency so Ukrainian soldiers wishing to survive the meat grinder can do so safely.
Approximately 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers have surrendered to the Russians using a special 149.200 Volga radio frequency Which has been operating since mid-summer.
Now, more than 10,000 Ukrainian servicemen have already chosen life and use a 149.200 Volga frequency to surrender.
The captives are being fed, they're being provided with all necessary medical care.
A source told TASS, saying the frequency works along the entire front.
The operational source noted the number of Ukrainian soldiers surrendering has increased recently.
There's a pro-Russian underground active within Ukraine who informed soldiers about how to surrender.
Very, very appropriate.
Because as we have learned from Seymour Hersh and reinforced by Scott Ritter, The war is over.
Ukraine lost.
Russia won.
There just isn't more to it.
But meanwhile, the governments, including the U.S., are lying.
And meanwhile, of course, in order to prevent hearing the other side of the story, the Russian version of what's going on, they're not even allowing Tucker Carlson to interview Vladimir Putin.
Imagine the numbers that would draw.
Tucker Carlson continues to offer up some of the most interesting content in the news world today.
Since his firing at Fox, he's been traveling the globe and talking to fascinating people about stories we don't otherwise get to hear from our next to useless hot sidewalk garbage called the media in America.
He's also giving a lot more interviews to interesting outlets and individuals, where he shares many more of his personal opinions than he was allowed on Fox.
In an interview with a Swiss newspaper, for example, he just announced the U.S.
government has prevented him from interviewing Vladimir Putin.
The Swiss newspaper is called the Der Weltbusch, The World Week.
And the interview is simply titled They Are Afraid, a reference to the cowardly media that never holds the powerful to account and instead does the bidding of those they should be holding to account.
Now that his fox leash has been removed, Tucker is able to interview whomever he wants and say whatever he wants.
It's been hilarious and sometimes shocking.
Earlier this month, he published an interview with Larry Sinclair, a man who has alleged for more than 20 years that he smoked crack and had gay sex with Barack Obama when he was an Illinois state senator.
Tucker was fiercely attacked for that interview, and most of the mainstream, who didn't ignore the story, claimed he was attacking Obama.
Tucker tells DeWalt Bush Since we're so fanatically pro-gay now, and everything gay is good, why is that bad?
Obama likes dudes.
Why is that an attack on Obama?
And of course, as I have reported many times, not only does he like dudes, he's married to a dude.
Michelle is a man with breast implants.
Huge shaving bill.
Well, we had an event last night, the second GOP debate, which Donald Trump once again skipped.
This time, they attacked him directly.
Simi Valley, California.
Several of Donald Trump's rivals stepped up their attacks against him in the second Republican presidential debate, urgently trying to dent A former president commanding primary lead to an event that often seemed like an undercard without him.
Trump went to Michigan aiming to capitalize on the autoworkers' strike in a key state that could help decide the general election.
His competitors, meanwhile, harassed by Fox Business moderators at the Ronald Reagan Library in California.
To participate in a reality show style game in which they would write who else on stage they would vote off the island.
They refused.
The Bates tone was far removed.
From a campaign that's been driven by Trump's attacks on his rivals and Democrat institutions, as well as his grievances of a litany of criminal indictments and civil cases targeting him and his businesses.
The moderators did not ask about the indictments or why people on stage were better qualified than Trump, which in my opinion would have been perfect and timely Question to ask.
100% appropriate.
Instead, posing questions about issues like education, economic policy, and the US-Mexico border.
Also, of course, an extremely appropriate issue to pursue.
Meanwhile, Chris Christie took his best shot and wound up being mocked roundly for it.
Chris Christie, I know the real Donald Trump is watching.
You're not here because you're afraid.
You keep talking these things, we're gonna start calling you Donald Duck.
To hear Chris Christie tell his story, there's one and only one reason DJT is not on this stage with the other GOP hopefuls.
He's afraid of being owned by Christie's big guns.
If you watch the clip carefully, You know, Chris is holding back a laugh as he wind up to deliver this knockout punch.
Well, if this is the best Chris has to dish out, he better shuffle back to the buffet line.
The Donald Trump, Donald Duck line wasn't clever then because Hillary used it way back when and isn't any good now.
Meanwhile, And I find this a bit disappointing because I like Dana Perino.
Fox hosts try showboating in the debate and gets roasted by the candidates.
The recount.
Fox News debate moderator Dana Perino.
Which one of you on stage tonight should be voted off the island?
Please use your marker to write your choice on the notepad in front of you.
15 seconds.
Led by Ron DeSantis.
The candidates refused to participate in the exercise.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump himself counter-programmed, conducted a rally that round opposite of the debate with great success.
We'll be right back.
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Having been caught with her pants down with these two wire transfers directly from China to Hunter Biden, one were 10,000, the other were 10,000.
The White House does what the White House does.
It lies.
The White House tried to send Chinese bank buyers to Joe Biden's Delaware address, but Hunter's plea deal gets in the way.
Every now and then, facts have a troublesome way of asserting themselves.
The White House is desperately trying to spin a new allegation that President Biden's Delaware residence was a beneficiary address of two Chinese payments involving Hunter Biden's overseas business.
House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer revealed the bombshell allegation Tuesday on July 26, 2019.
Hunter Biden received 10,000 wire from Wang Zhen.
Then on August 2nd, 2019, Hunter received 250,000 from Jonathan Lee and Tang Ling.
The press release from the Oversight Committee reported both originated in Beijing, and Joe Biden's Wilmington, Delaware home is listed as a beneficiary address for both wires.
But a spokesman in Sam's called the new allegations bananas.
Responding to a journalist who called the allegations, he said fake would be gotcha because allegedly Hunter was living at Biden Delaware home in 2019.
But Sam's responded.
Imagine them arguing that if someone stayed at their parent's house during the pandemic.
Listed it as their permanent address for work and got a paycheck.
The parent somehow worked for the employee.
It's bananas, he declared.
Yep, this is what extreme House Republicans have sunk to.
There's a significant problem with the Simms' response, however.
Now, defunct plea deal.
Hunter struck with federal prosecutors, including a statement of facts.
Hunter agreed to be true when he entered the deal.
He acknowledged that he was living on the other side of the country in California, not Delaware, in 2019.
That document states, after numerous Programs and trip to rehab.
Biden, meaning Hunter, got sober in May of 2019, the same month he married his current wife.
He has remained sober since.
Hunter, remaining Californian, spent much of summer 2019 painting and developing plans for his memoir, which he began working on through the fall and into the winter.
Question about abatement themselves aside, it's not clear why Joe Biden's address was used if they were meant for Hunter, especially if Hunter agreed in court, as a plea doc shows, he was living in California this summer of 2019, the same time the payments were sent.
But of course, because they're scrambling, They're trying to find a way to avoid the implication, which is, I dare say, all too clear.
Meanwhile, Biden, not surprisingly, launched his first Trump attack ad of the 2024 campaign.
President Joe Biden's campaign this week released its first ad Directly attacking former President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election.
The ad, titled Delivers, is a 30-second clip that'll air on national cable as well as local TV in Michigan.
It hits Trump over his tax policies, the closure of manufacturing plant, and his promises to restore jobs that never came true.
He says he stands with the autoworkers with his president.
Donald Trump passed tax breaks for his rich friends, while automakers shuttered their plants, and Michigan lost manufacturing jobs.
Manufacturing is coming back to Michigan, the ad states, because Joe Biden doesn't talk, he delivers.
Well, it's ironic that the strike that's taking place is over the conversion to electric vehicles.
Which Joe Biden basically imposed upon the automobile industry.
And then for Biden to go up there and claim he's with striking workers when they're striking against Biden's own policies?
The hypocrisy, the chutzpah.
It's staggering.
Meanwhile, Trump goes up, the man who made us a surging economy, shut down the borders where the lowest income earning Workers were finding their wages rising at the highest rate.
Biden now, of course, is allowing all these migrants under contact, and their salaries are dropping.
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Of course, that 260,000 wire transfers from China to hunt her via his father's family is only the tip of the iceberg.
We have massive documentation and evidence that the big guy, as Joe was known, was getting 10% off of every transaction his son was involved in, and no doubt more.
Here we have from AmericanGreatness.com, AMGreatness.com, which appears to be supported by Tucker Carlson, impeachment memo.
Biden family received $15 million in foreign money.
On Wednesday, a new memo was released by members of Congress detailing bank records which allegedly proved that the Biden family had received at least $15 million in foreign funds.
According to Just the News, the memo was released by Congressman James Comer, Republican of Kentucky, Jim Jordan, Republican of Ohio, and Jason Smith, Republican of Missouri, all three of whom are leading committee chairs, with Comer, the House Oversight Committee, Jordan, House Judiciary, and Smith, House Ways and Means.
Department of Justice personnel blocked avenues of inquiry that could have led to evidence incriminating President Biden and impeded efforts to prosecute Hunter for tax crimes Related to foreign business arrangement could have implicated President Biden, a 30 page memo reads in part.
The president had knowledge of many of his family's business dealings and indeed participated in them by having phone calls and attending private dinners, including while he was vice president with his family's business associates and foreign business associates to advance family millions of dollars.
For no identifiable product or service.
Absolutely right.
And these, of course, are among the key facts figuring in to the prosecution efforts that are moving forward, the impeachment efforts that are moving forward.
Here's Kamala making a stunning observation about impeachment.
Democrats only send her out in public to speak in front of the safest and friendliest audiences they can arrange.
That's why she was at a historically black college, Morehouse University, to speak to an audience of college students.
During the stop, she sat for an interview with PBS, where host Geoff Bennett asked Harris about how the administration plans to prepare for the impeachment inquiry.
The interview aired the same day Republicans revealed a businessman in Communist China set a $250,000 wire where the address of the beneficiary was Joe Biden's home.
Harris completely ignored the mounting evidence of Biden corruption and said the administration would be on gutting the Second Amendment.
I think that we are very clear that we're not going to be distracted by political games and that we're going to stay focused on what we have been doing.
I'm here at Morehouse College talking with a bunch of young leaders about the challenges they face and the need for solutions.
One of the big topics we talked about here was the issue of gun violence.
Remember, as I've reported several times now, if you took out Five Democrat-controlled cities, including Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit, and St.
Louis, even though the United States, when those cities are included, ranks among the highest in gun violence in the world.
When you subtract those five cities, we're among the lowest, 189th out of 193.
189th out of 193.
Meanwhile, Biden's pattern of lies is exposed even by CNN.
Get this.
President Biden has come under fire from CNN fact checker Daniel Dale for a number of exaggerated statements, including that he visited Ground Zero the day after 9-11.
Dale mentioned that on September 20th, nine days after the attack, Biden went with a bipartisan delegation of senators.
The deception was not insignificant, but a distortion of a serious and solemn occasion.
Biden's exaggerations are virtually always calculated to put him in the spotlight and give him authority on any topic.
He keeps telling tall tales about his life that turn out to be fabrications, such as when he saw a bridge collapse in Pittsburgh.
Or his grandfather dying?
Or his friendship with a long-dead Amtrak train conductor?
Three times in one speech last month, Biden made untrue claims about being detained at a civil rights demonstration and about visiting the Pittsburgh synagogue where 11 people were slaughtered in an horrific shooting in 2018.
That Shooting, by the way, was completely fabricated and fake.
Miles Mathis has an excellent piece about it, totally phony and fake.
He has also lied about his background, claiming to have worked as a truck driver when, in fact, he's never operated a tractor or trailer.
As historic inflation overwhelms nominal salaries and undermines living standards, actual earnings have fallen monthly under Biden's admin for nearly two years.
Since Biden took office, food costs have increased by 20%, far more than the annual inflation rate, which means Americans are becoming poorer.
There's thus no truth to Biden's assertion he'll create a record 20 million new jobs and eliminate the greatest debt in American history.
He continued to claim people returning to job postponed due to the pandemic or his administration creating jobs.
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Have we ever had a bigger Liar in the White House?
Well, we've had some, but he's full of whoppers.
Here's another report confirming.
Email shows U.S.
Attorney blocked agents from investigating Hunter Biden.
House Ways and Means Wednesday revealed a doc that showed Leslie Wolff, Assistant U.S.
Attorney for Delaware, blocked investigators from pursuing evidence related to President Joe Biden As part of an investigation into violations of Foreign Agent Registration Act.
The committee also revealed evidence Biden's son, Hunter, was traveling the world to sell influence and access to his father.
A document showed Hunter referring to the Biden brand, meaning his father, and he referred to access to his father as the key to my family's only asset.
The documents were supplied by IRS whistleblower Joseph Ziegler and Gary Shapley to back their congressional testimony that DOJ interfered in a years-long investigation into Hunter involving alleged tax fraud crimes.
Absolutely 100%.
Meanwhile, Alvin Bragg had been blindsided My judge ruling that has thrown his case against Trump into chaos actually derailed the timing.
Alvin Frank's criminal trial of Donald Trump was set to start on March 25th.
Frank indicted Trump on 34 counts of falsifying business records.
Even liberal legal analysts scoffed.
At the novel legal theory Bragg cooked up in claiming Trump falsified business records to hide repaying Michael Cohen for paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 non-disclosure agreement settlement as though it were a federal campaign finance law violation.
Biden's Justice Department never charged Trump with that crime.
Because even the weaponized Democrat prosecutors in Washington, D.C.
had to admit Trump never came close to breaking the law on contribution limits or campaign expense reports.
But now it looks like there'll be a significant delay and we'll go to court.
That's because a judge in the case, Joe Biden donor Juan Michon, Announced he was canceling a pretrial hearing due to the fact that Obama donor judge Tanya Cherkin had scheduled Trump's trial and orchestrate on contesting the 2020 election.
This is the one revolving around January 6 for March 4th.
We can't have him in all these courts at one in the same time.
Even the Democrats are reluctantly admitting.
Now we have the California governor signing a disturbing new bill.
Parents are already furious with Newsom.
So what's happening?
Anyone not believing there's a culture war raging across America only has to look at California as a prime example.
Lawmakers in this left-winging state I've repeatedly worked against the constitutional rights of citizens there.
The attacks against American rights and values extends all the way to Governor Gavin Newsom, who this week readied his political hammer to slam down on school districts that dare disobey leftist edicts.
Any district That doesn't bow to laws that force the teaching of leftist ideals will be slammed.
Newsom has openly targeted conservative school districts and sought power from the state legislature to punish communities that don't align with LGBTQ plus issues and ethnic studies.
From Breitbart, Newsom signed a bill Monday That will enable him to slap fines on local school districts that refuse to obey state edicts on curriculum involving controversial subjects like race, gender, and sexuality.
Despite supermajorities of Democrats in both houses of the state legislature, the bill was failing before Newsom jumped in to save the legislation.
His voice is plans to punish one school district in particular, the Temecula, California, where a new conservative majority won school board elections and rejected LGBTQ plus material.
Newsom claims the law bans book bans and censorship and gives families a freedom to decide what's right for them.
The reality, however, is that now the state can force districts to follow state-mandated teaching plans that do not include conservative or traditional perspectives.
This claim of freedom to decide now doesn't exist because the law strips that freedom from families via their own school districts, wanting to decide whether children should learn.
Newsom is actively targeting disobedient school districts, including suing school boards in Chino Valley, California, for adopting a policy requiring schools to notify parents if children want to change their gender.
This policy is backed by 84% of Californians.
But Newsom wants the power of minority leftists to be enforced despite the wishes of the majority.
Newsom has displayed his political intentions of dancing to the leftist drum while cautiously preparing for a potential presidential run.
He wants to be portrayed as a national leader who is against Republicans in states with GOP majorities.
Newsom is set to debate Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on November 30th, even though Newsom says he's not running for president.
Mark that on your calendar.
That should be a good one, because DeSantis wants to know that he can be as aggressive and competent as Trump by taking on Gavin Newsom, whom Notwithstanding a recent declaration that he was not going to run in 2024, is hoping he will be drafted.
And I still believe the plan is to draft Newsom and then bring in none other than Barack Obama's non-female wife, Michelle, to be his running mate.
Meanwhile, Tucker drops a truth bomb.
Here's his.
Tucker's explosive take on abortion.
Now, let me add a few words about this.
Abortion is among, if not the most controversial subjects in America.
There's a huge range of diverse opinions.
In my courses on critical thinking, which I offered for 35 years, We would spend as much as four hours debating abortion.
So I'm going to share Tucker's opinion here, and then I'm going to offer some observations of my own.
Tucker Carlson, a popular conservative commentator, recently addressed a group of Christians on the topic of abortion, boldly stating that those advocating for abortion are your enemy.
He described abortion as an ancient and evil religious rite that has existed for thousands of years, emphasizing that it involves the murder of innocent children in their mother's womb.
Carlson's remarks were delivered at the Center for Christian Virtue Gala in Cleveland, Ohio.
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He also criticized a church minister who prioritized pandemic mandates over matters of faith, questioning her fear of death as a Christian.
Carlson delved into the Bible and its eternal truths, finding reassurance in the conversion of St.
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He drew parallels between ancient practices of human sacrifice and the contemporary issue of abortion, highlighting the consistent theme of trading innocent for power.
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He describes it as an ancient and evil religious rite that's existed for thousands of years, emphasizing that it involves a murder of innocent children in their mother's womb.
Let's talk about a phrase innocent children to begin with.
As a rule, the word child or even the word baby is applicable to what has been born.
In other words, strictly speaking, you don't have a baby.
You have something that is informally referred to as a baby, but strictly speaking, a baby or a child until it is born.
That's it.
We're talking about a murder of innocent children.
That would be infanticide.
And believe it or not, Virginia even had a Democrat governor who was promoting infanticide, which is disgusting and wrong.
I would never endorse infanticide.
The question about murder is terribly central here.
Murder involves a deliberate Wrongful, especially illegal, killing of a person, okay?
There are many cases where the killing of a person is not wrongful, and even if deliberate, is therefore not murder.
Soldiers in combat deliberately kill their enemy soldier, but it's not wrongful, and it's not regarded as murder.
Police and their performance of their duty May have to kill a suspect, especially they are in mortal.
Danger.
That again is a deliberate killing of a person, but it's not wrongful and doesn't qualified murder citizens in self defense.
Someone breaks into your home, you're entitled to shoot him dead.
And even though you're deliberately killing a person.
It's not wrongful and therefore is not murder.
The question that applies here.
With regard to abortion is twofold.
At what point does a developing entity attain the social, legal, moral status of personhood?
At what point does it become a person?
And secondarily, of course, when is it wrongful?
When is it wrongful?
Students who have Pay close attention to the Supreme Court ruling.
I appreciate that the Supreme Court essentially used viability, that is to say the capacity of the developing fetus to live independent of the uterine environment as the initiating point for the person that is to say the capacity of the developing fetus to live Or when we return.
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Wading into the deep bushes of the abortion issue.
Seeking to share with you the results of 35 years of offering courses in logic, critical thinking and scientific reasoning.
where I fully acknowledge The issue of abortion is among the most, if not the most, controversial in America and very strongly divides the population.
Thus, I would infer, many in this very audience will disagree with me about this issue.
I want to explain how, after spending a huge amount of time and effort examining the question, What are the key parameters?
I've already explained, you know, the deliberate killing of a person is murder.
The question with regard to abortion is not whether the entity, as it develops from a zygote to an embryo to a fetus, eventually, if everything goes well into a live birth, Is there is not a developing human entity or even human being?
It is without any doubt as a biological fact a stage in the development of a human being.
The question is rather at what stage in that development of a human being does it qualify as a person?
With a sociopolitical, legal, moral standing of a person, such that it would be murder, we're one to deliberately kill the entity.
The Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade offered an answer to that question, because Roe declared that abortions were unrestrictedly permissible in the first trimester, the first three months, Of a nine month normal gestation that the state could regulate how it was done during the second trimester, but during the third.
Abortion would only be permissible to save the life of the health of the mother that.
As I interpret it.
Means that the court is declaring at the end of the second trimester.
The developing stage.
Of a human being attains the status of personhood.
Why is that an appropriate time in this developmental process to declare personhood?
Well, I've already anticipated the answer.
Viability.
This is the point at which the developing fetus is capable of sustained life external to the uterine environment.
It turns out It's not a function of heart activity or brain activity, which have already come into place.
It turns out to be a function of lung development.
That the entity is only capable of surviving outside of the uterine environment by virtue of the development of his lungs, which makes it viable by the end of the second trimester.
Let me mention to another criterion that sometimes comes into play here, the pain threshold.
What turns out that the developing entity actually has a pain system that comes into play at the end of the second trimester as well.
But no doubt you'll find, you know, evidence of reaction to stimuli by reflexes and so forth at earlier stages.
Now, Why do I, unlike the current Supreme Court, believe that Roe was properly decided?
What Roe does is to leave the decision whether or not to abort up to a woman, her personal circumstances, and her religious beliefs, and her physician.
Why is this appropriate as I see it?
Because We all live different lives.
We're all in different sets of circumstances.
We can all, I would think, envision circumstances under which bringing another member into a family might be overwhelming and create problems that could be disastrous economically, financially, with regard to one's work or profession.
There are so many varied set of circumstances It seems only appropriate, Democratic and American, to let every woman decide for herself on the circumstances.
This is not a decision women take lightly.
It's among the most sober and serious any woman confronts during her lifetime.
The pro-life position, however, Would require women, regardless of their circumstances, to carry a fetus to term.
In my opinion, I regard this as a form of reproductive slavery.
To force a woman to carry a fetus to term when it's unwanted?
Some even insist in cases of rape and incest.
To me, that is grossly morally wrong.
So I just want to sketch out what I take to be the broad parameters of the abortion debate by virtue of rescinding Roe v. Wade and sending it back to the states.
The Supreme Court has created a patchwork quilt where many states have more liberal abortion measures than others and where women may have to travel to another state in order to deal with this issue in their lives.
I reiterate, It's not proper to regard abortion as murder unless it's past the point of viability and has attained personhood, which is true already in the third trimester.
So by the Supreme Court's own decision, any abortion in the third trimester other than to save the life or the health of the mother is murder and deserving of prosecution.
Now, again, I say in the 35 years in courses on critical thinking with Bryce Mann, two classes an hour and 45 minutes per class.
My courses were on Tuesday, Thursday.
I like teaching longer classes because it enabled I and the class to get deeper into the issues.
I like that.
and the class to get deeper into the issues.
I like that.
Most of my colleagues did not.
As a consequence, for 35 years, apart from one year on the quarter system, where I was usually teaching on the semester, virtually all of my courses were on Tuesday and Thursday and did not begin before 9 a.m., virtually all of my courses were on Tuesday and Thursday and did not begin before 9 a.m., which gave me lots of opportunity to do research, which requires a
I'm going to open it up to the callers now.
We have a couple already standing by.
My preference would be not to be preoccupied with abortion.
I merely want to lay out these key parameters.
And by the way, by the way, there's some who think of a developing entity as a homunculus, as kind of a tiny person.
As it would have arms and legs and a head and so forth from conception, of course, that's not the case.
In fact, the developing entity goes through many, many stages where some students believe that what's going on during embryogenesis, this transition from zygote to embryo to fetus, that replicate The stages human beings went through in evolution, and frankly, I find that a highly plausible hypothesis.
I'm looking right now at diagrams for days 36, 37, 38, 39, and what's developing doesn't look remotely like a human being.
It doesn't look like a person.
It looks a whole lot more like a shrimp.
I mean, frankly, If you get into the scientific study of these issues, it's fascinating and affects every one of us because we were born through such a process.
But I just want to disabuse anyone who has a false conception that from inception or conception that it looks like a little person.
It does not, most assuredly not.
I open the lines to callers.
We got John in Michigan.
John, join the conversation.
Thank you, Jim.
And, you know, we all have different opinions on that situation.
I know in Texas, there was a legal issue with colonial silk.
And in the court information, they related humans as other animals.
According to the people that are sort of running things, would you say we have more of a parallel government than what we're supposed to have with the 1871 Act?
Well, you're talking about the creation of the U.S.
as a corporation, which Trump apparently put an end to.
I'm no expert in this area, but I have had Multiple reports that Trump put an end to the United States as a corporation, which came into existence because the nation was impoverished from fighting the Civil War and needed financial resources, which were secured from England, as I understand it, by creating the United States as a corporation.
But where Trump put an end to it, That it was acknowledged by the Queen by allowing Trump to proceed her in a ceremonial act and where Trump went on to the Vatican and brought home a vast amount of gold belonging to the United States.
And it required hundreds, hundreds of plane loads to return the gold to the United States, in my opinion, assuming all that I've just described is correct and accurate.
That's another reason we owe an enormous debt of gratitude to Donald Trump.
Let me simply add, by the way, that since I have opened up this box of complicated issues, today would probably be as good a day for everyone to offer their arguments and positions on abortion.
I just believe we are confronted with so many other issues, and it ought not to be a predominant issue on future shows.
Go ahead, John, add what you'd like to add.
Well, in my opinion, these abortion clinics are sacrificial zones.
The closest thing to our Creator is a baby.
That's the purest thing on earth, and what better way to take that spirit away from the earth and to take it out of existence.
And so my feeling with these abortion clinics, because most of these babies could be not, you know, not created if people were responsible, because there are responsibilities for your actions and having a baby is, you because there are responsibilities for your actions and having a baby is, you know, to How do you feel about rape and incest?
That would be something that would be up to the individual, I think, because it's more of a spiritual situation.
I don't have the right to speak for someone that's been through that horrific... Or to save the life or health of the mother.
How do you feel about those, John?
Well, if it has to, I leave that again up to the parents or the mother and father to decide.
Who gets saved, the baby or the mom?
That would be something that would be very hard to decide upon.
Well, the law gives the weight to the mother because there's a greater investment, you know, into her life of her education or accomplishments and all that.
So it's a conflict between the mother and the fetus.
The weight goes to the mother in terms of saving one or the other.
I think that's well established under the law.
But, John, I like your open-mindedness and the sincerity of everything you've had to say.
Do you have a final thought?
Yes, Jim, because we talk about all these orders and mandates and demands by all of these people that are all parts of agencies.
Ralph Winterow brought this to my attention when he was still alive as far as the Federal Register.
And everything's supposed to be in the Federal Register.
An example of what it wasn't in the Federal Register was when Biden wanted to mandate masks and the Supreme Consort said, you don't have the authority because the presidency is an agency of the corporation and it has to be published in the Federal Register, which was established in 1935.
You're absolutely right, John.
to bring in these rogue agencies.
So if someone would just bring that to the attention of people, that, okay, you have an order, where do you get your authority?
If it is in the federal register, then you don't have the authority.
Yes.
Biden has done a whole lot.
You're absolutely right, John.
Biden has done a whole lot of lawless acts that had no foundation in law or the Constitution, and he should be held accountable, and a whole lot of them had to do with these mandates.
that did not have the status of We had a health person say that children had to wear masks last year in school because she thought that was great.
to school boards and to counties. - Yeah. - We had a health person say that children had to wear masks last year in school because she thought that that was great.
And she had no authority to do that.
And because these health agencies are extensions of the state health agency, which is extensive of CDC and NIH.
None of these agencies have the authority because they don't publish any of their demands in a federal register.
And you can go there, folks, and just look at it and see that it's supposed to be applicable, lawful, and then have a judicial review before anything can be, you know, unless you're part of the agency itself, then you still have the choice, but most of the time it just covers the people in the agency.
They're abusing all of us.
Every one of them are.
That has to be exposed.
These lawyers or attorneys or bar people, whatever their allegiance to, that's where the argument can be with all of this fraudulent voting.
Everything that they're claiming, if it's not published according to what we're off, and I went over it with them many times, it has to be in the Federal Register.
Developed by Roosevelt, who was a corporate entity at that time, and it's all still under that umbrella.
I don't know what Trump did, but we're still dealing with these mandates and orders and edicts.
God bless you, Jim.
John, this was an excellent call.
Thank you very, very much.
Tom in Florida, join the conversation, Tom.
Yes, hello?
Jim, can you hear me there?
Yes, indeed, Tom.
Go ahead.
Okay, yeah.
Well, first off, yeah, I watched a little of that debate last night, and it looked like the Univision debate, like they were saying.
It's like, we really seriously gotta have people that are basically Hispanic speaking Spanish to run our debate?
What the hell was that, Jim?
What kind of country is this turning out to be?
We're taking orders out from Mexico or Central America?
What is this?
This country, look, we don't have German commentators.
We don't have Germans going up there saying, oh, I'm going to ask you a question in German, but we're going to have this Hispanic woman asking Basie, what do you think about the Dreamers?
What do you mean?
I'm having a dream too, Jim.
I want them to dream right back where they came from.
Yeah.
I mean, this is getting crazy.
You know, and I'm hearing this woman talk to all these contenders from Princeton.
No, I'm not going to be talking.
Even to Sam, because he's as good as he might be, and I'm from Florida.
I don't trust DeSantis.
He's in bed with Israel.
He'll kiss the ass of those schmucks.
And look at this Jamie Raskin rat bastard.
He's, uh, he's talking about Trump and all this today and this hearing for impeachment of Biden.
And, you know, Jim, let me ask you.
All these Democrats are calling for Robert Menendez to step down.
With gold bars and all that.
What about Joe Biden who took over $50 million in his trade from Scott Hunter?
Oh, I know, Tom.
I know, Tom.
Tom, thank you.
Thank you so much, Tom.
I'll be right back after.
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Well, we have Francis from North Carolina standing by.
Frances, welcome back to the show.
Oh, boy.
Hey, young man.
That was quite a Pandora's box as far as the abortion issue goes.
Or not wanting Say that again, Frances.
I didn't quite get what you said.
Say it again.
Yes, yes, yes.
As I said, it may be the most controversial issue in the country.
Go ahead.
Yeah, because, well, of course, because no two people can agree on the intricacies of that issue for that matter.
For one thing, for instance, depending on the circumstances and what's going on, at least the female has shortly, and before the end of this first trimester, at least the female has shortly, and before the end of this first trimester, the choice of either, well, she finds out that she has been impregnated, to, depending on what's going
Just clear your system and let it be done with, depending on how He became impregnated.
Now, if this was someone who was just a one-night stand, that's between her and her doctor or counselor or family members or whoever the case might be.
Now, if it's because of being assaulted by someone, well, obviously, that's a big no-no to begin with.
And so, again, that's an odd choice.
However, if it is a family member that decides to Well, you know, get on, get off, whatever have you, and so forth.
That is reprehensible.
Yes.
In all three respects, it is a spiritual violation, for that matter.
The only thing I can think of, and I know people this day and time, as young as they are, and think, oh, let's go get the bed rockin' and don't come knockin' deal.
For one thing, for the gal, keep your legs closed.
For the guy, keep it tucked.
Until the time comes.
And the same with the gals.
If you need to, chat with somebody.
I don't care who it is, whether it's your family members, your spiritual guidance, whatever have you.
Or, excuse me, religious guidance is concerned.
Everybody has their own perception of the deal.
Yes.
But just having... It's one thing to have pre-sex, but there's such a thing as taking measures to keep from having to be pregnant to begin with.
Sure.
Sure.
Francis, let me tell you a little story.
One discussion with one class when we began talking about, you know, birth control.
I was just staggered.
I mean, they had dozens of methods of birth control I'd never even heard of before.
I was fascinated, absolutely floored.
It was fascinating.
Go ahead.
Thousands?
I've only heard of a few.
Dozens, I said!
Dozens!
Dozens!
I didn't say hundreds or thousands.
Still, that floors me.
The aspect of sex, as far as trying to avoid being pregnant is concerned, that's a very simple thing, an elementary thing to try to deal with, or not deal with, for that matter.
Despite the hormones are raging and everything else, it's ridiculous.
That being said, I'm not sure if people realize it, but with the influx of people coming in from the southern border into the state, whether they are coming in pregnant or not, or whether the dudes that are coming in are knocking up the youth here in the U.S.
that's already here to begin with, you're talking about a fiasco of a Pandora's Box that is absolutely absurd.
And saying, well, oh, you can go to this clinic and get an abortion.
Excuse me?
Yeah.
That's just wrong to start with.
Francis, you're right.
And you're raising a lot of really good points.
Do you have a concluding thought today or more you want to add?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Go ahead.
If the person decides to wait until the end of the third term, That's infanticide, Francis.
That's infanticide.
That's murder.
That's grotesque.
Absolutely wrong.
That is murder.
Remember, even under Roe, any abortion in the third trimester, other than to save the life or the health of the mother, is murder.
Even under Roe.
Well, there you go.
And the thing is, the question is, how, if the mother claims it's affecting her health or her life or whatever, then maybe she should have thought about that before she ever got, allowed herself to get knocked up to begin with.
Yeah, but, but, you know, you know, the best, the best laid plans.
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The only period of my life in which I was engaged with organized religion was in junior high and high school, where my parents had divorced, both had remarried.
My mother died, came to live with my father and stepmother, with my one full brother.
And they thought it might be good if we were involved in church activities in South Pasadena.
There were two active.
One was a congregationalist that was very near our home, and the other was St.
James Episcopal Church across town.
And we wound up being very active at St.
James.
I was an acolyte, sang in the church choir, was the head of the Young People's Fellowship, gave a sermon on Youth Sunday, was even a delegate So the 14th World Convention on Christian Education, which was held in Tokyo that year, which would have been what?
1958.
But and during that visit to Tokyo, I went to the Chinese Communist Party headquarters, the Japanese Communist Party headquarters to ask for documents because I wanted to.
Read for myself what they had to say.
We got Ken from Texas.
Ken, I'm so glad you called back today.
I was sorry to miss you yesterday.
The floor is yours.
Hello, Dr. Fetzer.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
Well, a couple of items, but for yesterday, what I wanted to make a note of was, you know, the Hubble Space Telescope.
Well, let me respond to that.
They're not allowed to use the Hubble to look at the moon.
How absurd is that?
And I think it's for the very point you make it would refute the idea we'd gone to the moon.
They're not allowed to do it, as absurd as that sounds.
Yes, and I did hear about one grad student, I think he was a grad student, that got some time on the Hubble Space Telescope and did exactly that, pointed at the moon, and they shot that down real fast.
Good for him!
Good for him!
He got cut off pretty quickly, so I thought that was kind of a funny story.
What could be more obvious as proof that we did not go, that we're not allowed to use this most powerful telescope to look at the moon, which is the closest celestial object, would be of great interest.
I mean, nice point, Ken.
Well, not only that, they have other telescopes that can do it in infrared and ultraviolet and who knows what all the spy satellites can do.
What was it called?
I forgot.
The Blackbird or whatever in the 70s.
Yeah.
No, not the aircraft.
The satellite.
Okay.
It could analyze a mouse part from outer space and tell you what he had for dinner.
It's not hyperbole or exaggeration.
It really could.
It was in the 70s.
So you can imagine now.
But, uh, since you brought up the abortion issue, I wanted to chime in on that.
Sure.
You know, in today's, uh, forensics, you know, you identify a lot of criminals, uh, based on their DNA.
Their DNA identifies them as a person.
But I use the word person, uh, because the legal definition of a person is a legal fiction.
Whereas you and I, say, person, we think about, you know, another human being.
So you have to be careful about how you couch that because of all the legal shenanigans.
And, you know, even the Supreme Court shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on abortion because they don't even know what the definition of a woman is.
I don't know.
Has the Supreme Court been asked to address it?
There is that wonderful video out there, What is a Woman?
If anyone's missed that, check it out.
It is superb.
Ken, further thoughts by way of closing?
Yeah.
Yeah, the ultimate decision is up to the woman.
However, I think that if a couple is married, that it should be discussed between the man and the woman.
In the end, you should punish the people that did the rape and the incest and not the child.
Yeah.
A lot more to say, but I'll leave it at that.
I look forward to future calls from you.
You made excellent points.
I've been very puzzled why the Democrat Party, which was very good in relation to abortion with my body, my choice, didn't say the same about the Vax.
Because it's not safe and it's not effective.
They should have been emphatic.
My body, my choice.
Reese in New York.
That was the argument I made, so I appreciate that argument as well.
I'll let you go.
Thanks, Doctor.
You call again, Ken.
Very good call.
Reese in New York.
Join the conversation.
All right.
Well, Jim, I have to say that Usually, Jim Fetzer is on point, but I gotta say this time, Jim, you're all wet.
Would you mind if I qualified that?
Go ahead, go ahead.
First of all, let me just start off by saying you are in the unenviable position of invoking the same arguments as did the advocates for slavery in the Dred Scott decision dehumanizing a black African in order to strip him of his humanness, of his same rights as a white person.
You're doing that with a child in its mother's womb.
Well, I've explained, I've explained, Rhys, why the word child is actually not quite right.
And I don't endorse Dred Scott.
I mean, black human beings are just as well persons when, you know, as white human beings, as Chinese human beings and across the board.
But go ahead, Rhys, go ahead.
That's not what, Dred Scott was not based on that.
Dred Scott was looking and evaluating a black African compared to a white ethnic European and decided that he was two-thirds of a white person.
I get it, but I gotta confess, I don't see the relevance of Dred Scott to the abortion question, but this is your argument, Reeds.
Go ahead with your argument.
Let me move on then.
To someone who I think outranks both you and I when it comes to abortion, and that would be Dr. Bernard Nathanson.
The famous doctor used to run TV promos alerting people as to what the truth is about abortion.
Now, he had performed over 60,000 abortions until he had actually seen the evidence from films of a child being aborted.
All this nonsense about a child not feeling pain, he was sold that same argument until he saw it with his own eyes.
At what point does he believe that the fetus begins to feel pain?
Here is his statement, Jim.
to it, and it screams.
It actually gives out what they call a silent scream that cannot be heard because it's in the womb.
At what point does he believe that the fetus begins to feel pain?
Here is his statement, Jim.
This is right from Bernard Nathanson.
He said, modern technologies have convinced us that beyond question, the unborn child is simply another human being, another member of the human community, indistinguishable in every way from any of us.
So that means, in other words...
I've explained, but Rhys, I've explained it's not a question of whether this is a stage in the development of human beings, it's whether it qualifies for personhood.
This distinctive Legal, moral status of having the ability to exist independent of the mother's body.
Go ahead.
Alright, but Jim, that is dangerously close to the arguments used by the advocates of slavery to strip a black man of the rights to have constitutional rights because he was only two-thirds.
It's very dangerously close.
Let me move on though.
Let me move on.
A child has its own blood type independent of the mother.
It has DNA, which is separate and independent of the mother.
Its organs are independent of the mother.
I could go on.
Now, based on your reasoning, that a child, because it can't exist on its own outside of its mother's womb at, let's say, eight months, eight and a half months... No, no, no!
End of sex!
End of sex, Reeves!
Okay.
Well, that argument could be used to justify No, no, I've always said infanticide.
No, no, no.
When you got a live birth. - It exists on its own, independent of the mother.
A toddler would die if its mother started to stop giving it breast milk or an infant.
That's boring.
You could use that same argument to justify killing a child that's been born. - No, I don't think so, Reese, but I get where you're going.
Do you have a final thought to tie it off?
I mean, you can come back to this by and by.
Just today, I've got four other callers.
Reese, go ahead.
All right.
I'm not going to go much further, but I'm just going to say this.
A silent scream beyond any doubt that children in the first trimester and second trimester literally scream when they're being aborted.
And I believe abortion is modern day child ritual sacrifice.
And that sacrifice is to the God of convenience to the mother.
Either A, doesn't want to take the time to raise it and give up for autonomy, or B, didn't bother to get birth control and was out with her F-buddy and got pregnant and doesn't want to own up to the responsibility.
Those are my thoughts, Jim.
Thank you, Rhys, very much.
Thank you for sharing those.
Dan in Washington.
Dan, join the conversation.
Thanks for taking the call.
Yeah, Reese had some really illogical points.
I mean, you know, to say an embryo after a month of being pregnant is screaming, I don't even think it has the head or mouth to scream at that point, right?
It's like an egg yolk.
Yeah, yeah.
I do believe the Stages in embryogenesis are deserving of contemplation.
Go ahead, Dan.
And then he brings up race, and that's what irritates me about the pro-life movement.
Okay, notice how he used race, too.
Like, you're the real racist, right?
Oh, Alex Jones says you just want less black people.
And the thing is, that was done intentionally by the conservatives, because if you go back to the start of Reagan, they were explicitly being pro-white.
They were concerned about white people being a minority.
They were concerned about fussing and a lot of the excesses of the Civil Rights Act.
But then they started this whole pro-life movement.
And by the end of Reagan, they're just sitting around worried about abortion and then saying, oh, the Democrats are the real racists.
You know, the whole thing.
And most of the conservatives, most of them are Zionist linked.
Yeah, really?
You know, I don't see these Christian groups protesting war.
If they're pro-life, why don't they go to their army recruiting center and protest all the wars we're in?
It's a complicated issue.
I understand the arguments.
I think if people sat and reasonably debated, you'd probably ban abortion after a few months.
I felt Roe v. Wade was one of the wisest decisions ever rendered by the Supreme Court, but I recognize many, many, many would disagree.
Dan, do you have a final thought?
Well, yeah.
Frances, I disagree, or I agree with you, because she brought up the border.
Look what happened to Mexico and Brazil when they didn't have abortion or birth control.
I mean, these people are overbreeding.
They're spilling over the border.
The population growth of Mexico, like from 1950 to 1980, was ginormous, you know?
It's a good example of what happens when you're not allowed to have, you know, abortion or pro-choice society.
You just end up like an overpopulated third-world hellhole.
Dan, you made a lot of very nice points.
Thank you for the call.
Mike in Brazil.
Mike, welcome back.
Join the conversation.
Thanks, Dr. Fetzer.
Okay, first of all, I gotta say something.
Abortion is legal in Brazil.
The previous caller said something about Brazil.
I was checking my car when he was talking, so I don't exactly know what was... All I heard was that in Brazil contraception is illegal.
No, it isn't.
No, you can have abortion in Brazil, okay?
Secondly, I'd like to talk about Jesus, because a lot of people talk about Jesus.
Jesus this and Jesus that.
First of all, Jesus was not born on December the 25th.
Yes.
Jesus was born in March, not December the 25th.
It was the Catholic Church that decided the year of birth of Jesus.
Well, the year to celebrate.
The year to celebrate it.
Yes.
Mike, I think you're right.
You know what I'm talking about, right?
So, the Catholic Church unanimously declared December the 25th as being the day of the birth of Jesus.
It isn't true.
It's a lie.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's a day that's celebrated.
Let's put it that way.
Let's put it that way, Mike.
It's not the actual birthday, but the day the birth is celebrated.
I know that, but the reason they celebrate, why not celebrate it in March?
Well, the 22nd of March or the 25th of March.
Well, we got a tradition now.
It's been long in place.
It ain't going to change, even though the facts may dispute it.
Go ahead.
Okay, so, Jesus was born in the spring.
It's in the Bible.
People who are Bible fanatics, they ought to know this, okay?
If they read the Bible carefully, they will realize that Jesus was born during the spring.
Okay?
The fact that they don't have a date of death for him, that's another red flag.
Okay?
Somebody with the personality of Jesus should have something recorded in history that he died on this day and day, and nothing like that is happening.
On the other hand, here in South America, we have the dates of death and birth of various kings of Maya, And, uh, various cultures.
We have everything on record, except Jesus.
Okay?
But that's not my main point, what I was going to say.
Okay?
Uh, the thing is, is like this.
The United States is following the path of self-destruction.
They're trying to take on Russia.
This is their ultimate goal.
And they will lose.
Yeah.
I've been living there for two years, and I know the mentality of people in Russia.
Russians love their country just like we love ours.
Yeah.
So you can't blame them for that.
Yeah.
So what I'm trying to say is that if the United States tries to start a war with Russia, the United States is going to be a desert.
Because the Russians have a bomb 100 times stronger than the ones dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
It's called the Tsar Bomb.
Okay?
And they made the bomb with a lower yield than the one that they originally designed because they realized that it's going to be the doomsday weapon.
Yeah.
Nobody will survive after this.
It doesn't matter which geographical region of the world the bomb dropped on.
Yeah.
Nobody's going to survive.
Yeah.
In terms of abortion, I agree with people.
Abortion is a matter of personal choice.
It's not a question about killing a baby.
Yeah.
The moment the brain is being formed.
Before the brain is being formed, the baby feels no pain because there is nothing to conduct the pain.
Yes.
And that's me.
If you have the most elementary knowledge of biology, you know that the brain is primarily formed in the first few months.
Okay?
So, in the first two or three weeks, the baby feels no pain.
You can safely abort the baby without the baby, but the fetus on the baby.
And it doesn't look anything like a person.
Not even remotely does it look like a human being.
Mike, I like everything you're saying.
Do you have a final thought?
Because I have several other callers I want to work in if I can.
A final thought?
Yeah, my final thought was I tried to get a permit for my .40 caliber gun, which I already bought under Bolsonaro, without any permit whatsoever.
And they refused me the permit, okay?
I'm sorry.
Because I had to be concealed because of the Mike, your calls are extremely interesting.
deposit every month.
So I go there with cash.
We don't have checks here.
There is no such thing as checks.
Checks are not acceptable in Brazil because there was so much fraud in checks that nobody accepts checks here.
Mike, your calls are extremely interesting.
Call in earlier next time and let me keep you on longer.
James in Vancouver.
James, join the conversation.
Yeah, so under the law is mens rea, actus reis.
Mens rea being the guilty mind, actus reis means the guilty act.
Another thing is they changed the dates in the Roman Catholic Church because they were trying to cover up the pagan rituals, you see.
So on December 24th or 5th you've got Some kind of solstice or equinox or whatever that is.
And then, you know, you've got in the springtime, you've got, I don't know, some kind of Easter festival.
There you go.
They have a religious calendar and it fit better on December 26th.
That's to get everybody in the fold.
The Universal Church, Catholicism.
Lookit, we didn't go to the moon.
My question is, what did they do with Werner Von Braun and his paperclip boys?
Oh, I mean, all these Nazi scientists and intel officers were brought into the United States under paperclip.
Werner von Braun actually conducted an exposition to the Antarctic in 1966 to collect moon rocks that had been dislodged from the surface of the moon by the impact with small asteroids I was thinking about his retirement in 1979 when he mysteriously died of cancer at 65 years of age.
Any thoughts on that?
it as bona fide moon rocks, which however have not arrived on Earth by the mode of transportation alleged.
Lots of good points you're making, James.
I was thinking about his retirement in 1979 when he mysteriously died of cancer at 65 years of age.
Any thoughts on that?
Back to you.
No, I'd have to take a look.
But, you know, I mean, a lot of people are dying young now because of the Vax.
Of course, Werner Von Braun could have been taken out.
I'm open to it, James.
Thanks for an excellent call.
Let you go, bye.
Bye.
David in Massachusetts joined the conversation.
Hello?
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, uh...
This discussion is causing me a lot of acid indigestion.
I'm going to call you Dr. Fetzer.
Take some Tums, David.
What I need is a glass of Alka-Fetzer.
Take some Tums, David.
No, what I need is, I need a glass of Alkafetra. Alkafetra, I love it.
Alkafetra.
Sorry.
Can you give me a glass of Alkafetra?
Very good, Jason.
Love it.
Anything else you want to add?
Yeah.
Listen, real quickly, I'll just say this.
This is my position.
We're on low versus way.
I'm not going to row, and I'm not going to weigh.
I'm just going to paddle my own canoe.
Did you get that?
I'm not going to weigh.
I do.
I do.
I like that.
I like that.
I like it.
I like it.
Sure.
A final thought?
A final thought?
Thanks, David.
Thanks for the call.
Miles in Maine, you're going to have a total short time here, but squeeze a word in, Miles.
Yeah, with regard to Dan's commentary, you know, when a little kid gets hurt, a child gets hurt, a small baby, they can't say, my legs, my ankles sprained, my wrist is hurt.
Yeah.
Miles.
Miles, call in tomorrow and I'll let you finish your thought.
Thanks everyone for being here.
A great bunch of calls.
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