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May 17, 2023 - Jim Fetzer
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Dr. James Thorp – Dangers of the Shot for Pregnant Women and Babies
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was always one way or another about vaccines.
Well, you know, what I really like about these morning coffees is they get to be more personal.
We get to do Q&A and answer your questions personally.
And just remember that I never give personal medical advice.
So if you can couch your questions, even if they're about you in a way that they're a little bit more generic, that will be the best way because I can't give personal medical advice.
But this morning, we're going to do something a little bit different because something came up in the last week that was so incredibly important that I've invited a special guest this morning to talk about this important information that just was breaking news last week.
I invited Dr. Jim Thorpe to join us here this morning.
He came on my Bridie on TV show on March 23rd, and we talked about fetal demise caused by the COVID shots.
But today, we're going to talk about ACOG, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecologists, which is one more medical organization that has lost all credibility in the eyes of the public.
And once you find out about this, they're going to lose even more credibility.
It's members should be humiliated and embarrassed by the information that we're going to talk about this morning.
But 1st, just a little bit about Dr. Thorpe.
Dr. James Thorpe is a board certified OBGYN and maternal fetal medicine physician for almost 44 years.
He has published nearly 200 papers.
Those kinds of numbers just stagger me.
They just blow my mind.
Dr. Thorpe has seen about 25,000 high-risk pregnancies in the last four years.
He testified in the U.S.
Senate in 2003 regarding inter-utero therapies and the impact on the fetus.
And then in December of 22, he once again testified in the Senate to Senator Ron Johnson's roundtable, which was just amazing.
Most recently, Dr. Thorpe has published over 15 peer-reviewed scientific publications regarding COVID-19 and the impact on pregnant women.
And he's, I don't know if you've released your book yet, but it says, a book documenting the dangers of COVID-19 shots in women of reproductive age and pregnancy.
Jim, welcome this morning to Morning Coffee with Dr. T.
Dr. T, thank you so much for having me on your incredible platform.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
This is really important.
So just to start from where I left off, have you released your book yet?
Yes, the book is out.
And the name is?
This is the book here.
It's out.
It's on Amazon.
Very good.
It's a really good, as Dr. McCullough points out, it's a really, really good desk reference for just a lot of very pertinent information for your viewers that really don't understand what is going on and what the real data is.
Thank you.
Oh, you're welcome.
We'll circle around back at the end of this to, you know, to make sure, because we believe in shameless self-promotion.
You put that much work into something, you need to let people know about it and need to know how they can find it.
So not only can they put that incredible information in their personal library, but to support the people that do all the work.
I mean, that's, you know, it's a lot of work.
I've written a couple of books.
I know how much time that takes.
But I invited you to come on this morning because you sent me, I think it was last week, it was last Monday, you sent me an article that I believe you and your wife have written because you did a FOIA request for a bunch of information and what you got back was just jaw-dropping.
And so why don't you talk a little bit about what prompted you to do the FOIA requests and then what happened once you got the documents back?
Sure.
And I have some, if you want, Dr. T, I have some really, really, I think, informative, simple slides I can show from my end, if and when you want.
Okay.
But I think that Maggie and I, she's an attorney, and she's got a lot of background in investigative research of corrupt corporations.
And she's gone after a few more in her line of work, which is insurance industry, bad faith.
But Dr. T, as you know, fraud is fraud is fraud.
So it's pretty easy to sniff out.
Maggie and I have been on this for over three years now.
And we knew that All of the medical boards, ACOG, ABOG, and my Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine were corrupted.
They're woke and they're captured, but we just couldn't prove it.
And I knew that for certain because I had the initial data from Pfizer.
I had that 5.3.6 two years ago, over two years ago, and so did they.
So we knew, and I've been brutally attacking them, all those organizations, for two years.
They can't touch me.
They gave me a discount on my board certification last year.
What the heck?
I'm calling them some pretty bad names, and they won't respond, and they threaten me to take my license.
Actually, the American Board can't take my license away, but they're connected with the Federation of State Medical Boards, ABAG could take my certification away, which would cripple, as you know, most all obstetricians or OBGYN docs.
But they are connected with the Federation of State Medical Boards and they can take my license away.
So, but they haven't done that.
And the reason I believe that they won't do that is because they know I have the goods on.
You know, Dr. T, I was speaking with Dr. Dan McDyer, who I have two more whistleblowers, OBGYNs prominent in Florida, on the exact same page that we are.
And Dr. Dan was telling me he was engaged in an ACOG upper level representative, and he's well connected.
And this lady said to him, and they got in a reverential collegial discussion, And Dr. McDyer just overwhelmed her with data, true data, and she said, well, Dan, you and I just have to agree on the fact that there's somebody smarter up there making the decision.
They're smarter than we are, and we'll leave it at that and agree to disagree.
And I'm here to tell you, Dr. T, and for your viewers, Dr. T, there's nobody up there smarter than you, number one.
And there's a lot of people, everybody up there is a lot more corrupt than you.
So what this doctor said, she got, she couldn't reconcile the data.
And then she had to basically say, there's somebody smarter than us that knows what they're doing.
Spoiler alert.
No, there's not.
There's not.
There's not.
There's nobody in the CDC and the FDA that is smarter than you.
There's nobody in the CDC and FDA that's smarter than the average obstetrician in this country.
But it's not really about being smarter.
It's about, you know, looking at the data and giving two cents about the patients And their babies that they are destroying.
I mean, the article that you sent me with some of the stats in there about how pregnant women so trust their obstetrician.
I mean, they really feel like they're in a vulnerable place in their life.
I mean, particularly with their first baby, I think with every baby, but particularly with their first is a brand new experience in your body, a brand new experience about what's going to happen during the pregnancy.
And then, oh, my goodness, what happens after the baby's here and that they really feel the need to trust their obstetrician.
And they've been betrayed.
They've been completely betrayed.
And I think that that's really an important point.
They've been totally betrayed.
Actually, it gets worse.
Personal relationships have been manipulated.
Listen, Dr. T, it's just incredible.
So what they did was they took a literally after they knew on February 28th.
Do you mind if I show some slides?
No, please.
Okay, so I'm going to share this screen.
Can you see that?
I can see it.
Diane, can people see it?
Can you see it?
Okay, the audience can see it.
All right.
Perfect.
Go right ahead, Jim.
So, what our hypothesis was, you know, when we got all of this nonsense back and this response was that, hey, listen, this was a theta complete.
They never, ever planned to do any safety testing in pregnancy.
And Dr. T, they did not.
They didn't do any safety testing.
In fact, the laboratory testing for the corrupt medical industrial complex is James River Laboratory.
They do the reproductive toxicology studies.
And I believe that's up in Michigan around Kalamazoo.
And we have their data.
Dr. Latipova has her data.
The data is horrible.
And what the, I'm not saying the lab is corrupt, but what the pharmaceutical company and the powers that be did was publish normal reproductive toxicology studies when they were damning.
So, so the whole system is corrupt.
And what I think that what we knew was that on February, I want to show this timeline because it's really, really important.
So, what we knew right here, let's remember that before the drug was rolled out to the general population, there were supposed to be formal pregnancy studies, zero, not a zip, not, there were none.
Now, when they rolled it out on February, on December 14th, it was actually sent out all the nationally, globally, from the Pfizer manufacturing companies and all the other pharma companies involved.
They've sent out December 1st, 2020.
They didn't start giving the injections until December, mid-December 2020.
And then their first 10-week rollout, which should be a 12-week rollout, was really December 14th, 2020 to February 28th, 2021.
So here we are right here.
At the end of the 90-day Pfizer 5.3.6 rollout on February 28, 2021.
Now, let's be real clear about this.
I know, you know, ABOG knows, CDC knows, HHS knows, everybody knows that this was the deadliest drug ever rolled out in the history of medicine.
Now, Dr. Chi, this is not Jim Thorpe's data.
This is not your data.
It's not Peter McCullough's data.
This is Pfizer's data.
Pfizer, the most fraudulent pharmaceutical company in the history of medicine, got an award of $2.2 billion.
$2.2 billion in 2009.
So the verdict is in.
They're the most fraudulent pharmaceutical company in the history of the world, and they have our government completely captured.
This is their data.
They tried to hide for 75 years.
There were 1,223 dead after the vaccine in 10 weeks.
That's 122 dead per week.
So what would an honest organization do?
And here's the obstetrical data, by the way.
Look at this.
We're talking about an 81% miscarriage rate.
Eighty-one percent, Dr. T. We're talking about five-fold increase in fetal death.
We're talking about breastfeeding complications.
This is the Pfizer's data that they tried to hide for 75 years.
So then, what do we do here?
This is where it gets interesting.
They knew it was the deadliest drug ever, so a deputy secretary of HHS by the name of Mark Webber comes in and he designed a multi-billion dollar, 13 billion dollar Psychological operations campaign, which is marketing.
That's what marketing is.
Now, I don't have a problem with marketing, but if you want to market something, okay, like M&Ms or Mars candy bars or toothpaste or toothpicks, that's fine.
Okay, market that.
You don't market the deadliest drug in the history of the world.
You don't market it and blow it out there and then spend $13 billion on trying to convince the United States of America and the global patients that it's the safest, most safe, effective, and necessary in pregnancy.
That is a murderous, injurious lie.
Absolutely.
And that's what they did, Dr. T.
Absolutely.
You know, I remember way at the beginning of this, you know, to be in March of 2020, when I started saying, wait a minute, stop, stop.
You know, I mean, I knew that we just need to get busy.
It was going to be really bad.
And then, you know, listening to Peter McCullough over the years, over the last three years that we've, we've known all of this and all of these physicians that continue to push these shots on children, pregnant women, elderly, boosters, whatever.
When Peter said, we knew by March of 21, And I think some of it is the data that you just showed on that slide that we knew by March of 21 that this needed to stop because it was going to murder people.
It was going to kill millions of people.
And if this really was about about health, about protecting against infection, about, you know, slowing, flattening the curve, protecting the vulnerable, protecting the elderly and all that stuff.
Even if that really was the motive, which it wasn't, but if it was, as soon as you saw this death data that came out, and knowing how many, what, hundreds and hundreds more people that Pfizer had to hire just to collect the data, because there were so many adverse effects, it should have stopped at the beginning of 2021.
And here we are in the middle of 2023, Still having OBGYNs, pediatricians, family doctors, internal medicine physicians, emergency room physicians, all of them still saying, oh, you've got to get the shot.
There was just an article that came out two days ago here in Cleveland.
I'm in Cleveland, Ohio.
The Cleveland Clinic is preventing a young boy, 14 years old, From getting an autologous kidney transplant from his father, from his father, his living father wants to give because he's dying of kidney disease and the Cleveland Clinic is refusing to allow that transplant because the father and the son have not received a COVID shot.
That's one of many, many transplant cases that have happened across the country, but here it is right in my own backyard, and it's autologous.
It's not coming from a cadaver.
It's not coming from, you know, a databank, a tissue bank.
It's coming from his own father that the Cleveland Clinic will not do it unless you've had a COVID shot.
It's murder.
Sooner or later, these people are going to have to be charged for murder.
I mean, all right, we'll give them a pass in 2020 because maybe they didn't know, but now 20, 21, 22, 23, two and a half years later, there's no excuse.
None.
None.
I'm in complete agreement with everything you just said, except one thing.
The one thing I'm not in agreement with is that you said they knew or the drug should have been pulled off the market in March.
I don't agree with that.
It should have been pulled off the market three months earlier in February.
I'm sorry, in December of 2020.
Because it far exceeded the death.
Listen, I mean, in that 10 week, they exceeded the number of deaths in the first week with 122 patients.
Dr. T, you and I were in medical school when, or I was, no, at Wayne State University up in Detroit in 1976 when the swine flu vaccine had only 26 deaths for the entire 10-week rollout.
It was immediately ripped off the market.
26 deaths.
And I think rotavirus was similar.
It was like less than 50 and they pulled it off.
There were no deaths.
Oh, that was right.
There were only a dozen cases of intussusception, which is an easily treatable condition and benign and they ripped it off the market.
Yep, for real.
So I don't know how much, you know, I have a really good friend who's a pediatric dentist and I believe she's in Connecticut and she and I were chatting online last night and she said, Eight out of 10 kids in her practice have had the COVID shot, which just is jaw-dropping to me.
What is wrong with these parents that they blindly believe these pediatricians?
It's just, it makes me just want to, you know, pull my hair out.
Just don't know what else we could have done.
Can I give you a story?
Sure, absolutely.
Healthy 14-year-old boy comes into the emergency room.
Having a myocardial infarction.
Dead.
Dead.
And none of the ED team even asked or interrogated about that potential for the vaccine causing it.
Dr. T, you and I have been at this a long time.
I've never seen anything like that.
They won't look at it.
And every physician in these hospital systems in the United States of America is the same way.
It's a no-go.
This is the narrative.
You don't question the narrative.
You just push it and just turn your head the other way.
I got a text message from a friend of mine who is an ER doc.
Let's see if I can find this.
He works for the Kettering Health System, which is a big hospital system in the Cincinnati-Dayton area.
And this was a text message that came out from the president of Kettering just a couple days ago.
It says, over the past decade.
Decade?
How about the last two years?
There has been a 44% increase in the number of young people hospitalized with strokes.
Because a stroke can now happen at anyone, at any time, at any age, It's important to know how to prevent them and what to do if they occur.
They have a stroke team that comes into the ER these days, you know, when somebody is presenting as a stroke.
It's not just here, it's across the country.
They had so many, usually it would be one or twice a week.
It was up to like five to seven times a day.
And it was so many calls that they brought, because it costs a lot of money to bring in these teams and the things that they do.
They actually had an independent outside evaluation of whether or not these ER docs were calling in these stroke teams inappropriately.
They weren't.
They weren't.
And that's nationwide.
And so now we're seeing... I have another person yesterday that sent me a text message said, yep, here's another mother in my practice who is 43 years old, has two kids, just died of a pulmonary embolism.
Two Moderna shots, booster.
Dad's vaccinated.
Both kids are vaxxed.
And it's a 43-year-old mom that's now dead for no reason.
And there are millions of these deaths, Jim.
I mean, the hockey stick of deaths and what Ed Dowd continually keeps exposing is just mind numbing.
And the reason why they're all turning their heads the other way, if you look on this slide, this is the 12 categories of Influencers that were bribed with a psychological operations program distributed through the COVID-19 Community Core, CCC.
$13 billion went out to these 12 different categories.
And within these 12 different categories, Dr. T, there's 298 paid influencers, either individuals or organizations.
And I know this is a, oh my goodness, too much slide.
Oh no, wait, go back one, because I want to make a comment.
Notice that, you know, so this is out of 298 people that they tried to coerce in each one of these categories.
These were how many people that said yes?
Like 12 out of 298 in sports and entertainment.
87, the highest of all of them, were faith leaders.
Make a note of that, people.
Your priest, your pastor, your group leader poisoned you for money.
From the pulpit.
From the pulpit.
Exactly.
The two people, the two sectors that your patients, our patients, me trusted the most five years ago was my personal physician and my pastor.
And now I have zero respect for any of them.
I value and respect attorneys more than I do these corrupt physicians and pastors and rabbis.
Go on to the next slide now where you were, you said that I know this is an old crap slide, but I don't expect you to read it all.
But these are the 298 paid organization slash individuals.
Look at them now.
Now, exactly why this is exactly the way the order in which they were listed in the materials that we found.
And we don't know why it's not alphabetical order, I think that it's each one of these is decreasing order of grant awards, I would guess I'm just guessing.
But these are all the awardees.
These are the people that took the bribe, and if they took the bribe.
They're not allowed, Dr. T, to deviate from the CDC and the HHS narrative.
And if they do, they've broken their contract and they have to pay back the money.
They've distributed the money already.
And this is why the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology, the American College of OBGYN, And the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine just ignored me.
They want me to go away because I shame them, they're guilty of murder, and they know it, and I know it, and there was never a scientific bone in their body.
They took the money with the agreement they would Throw all of their patients and all their constituents under the bus and they would force them to do what they want if they pocket the money and they're laughing all the way to the bank.
It's it's almost like you you just can't.
I mean, it's so egregious.
There's almost no words to say to it.
Look at this.
Look at this propaganda stuff with all these masks.
It just is so shocking to me.
Not only is it so shocking that all of these, those organizations that you just showed on that slide are still promoting and pushing boosters.
Still!
In pregnancy!
Yes.
In pregnancy!
I know.
And they're still wearing masks!
Oh my gosh!
You know, you go to the airport, you still see people running around in masks, still see people wearing a mask outside walking their dog, still see people mask in various... it's like... and nobody says anything to them!
It's like, oh, it's just their choice.
I don't want to offend anybody.
Really?
They're killing themselves.
They're murdering themselves by breathing in the carbon dioxide.
You know, Paul Alexander, this was last October.
I can only imagine how many more publications have come out.
But last October, he compiled 150, 150 different studies that showed that masks don't work and they only do is make the people sick that wears them.
It's insane.
This is part of the propaganda program.
Your virtuous, voluptuous, scientifically allegedly credible flagship fraudulent journal of the military medical industrial complex, the New England Journal of Medicine.
Why do I know the data is fraudulent?
Because I've looked at it and fraudulent, let me back off on that word, so you know fraudulent is difficult to prove but it is Totally underhanded and it's lying.
And here's, this is what happened.
This was published in, I got two different published dates, either April or June of 2021.
Please understand, this is a weaponized medical journal that's weaponized to kill people in the United States of America and globally, pregnant women, the most vulnerable.
And I can prove it to you because they lied.
They lied.
Look at who's supporting them right here.
75% of their income is from the pharmaceutical industry, and that's exactly why they're corrupt, horrible, disgusting, despicable.
Eric Rubin, the editor-in-chief, voted at the FDA to push this death clot shot in children.
And he said, we don't have any safety data, we just roll it out and see what happens.
Well, you see what happened, fraudster.
You see what happened, Ruben.
You killed a lot of innocent children, and you injured a lot more.
A lot of them that I know.
Family members.
You killed them.
You injured them, Ruben.
You and your fraudulent journal.
Your corrupt journal.
You are woke.
You can't even have the respect to your Creator and to women, to call them pregnant women.
You have to change your language, change your dates, change your time.
That's evil.
That's an evil, evil, evil statement.
You take away the adornment, the beauty, the grace that God created a woman with, and then you call them a pregnant person.
Horrible, despicable person.
There's a couple of things in your paper that I wrote over made a note of that I wanted to bring out and talk about.
1 was that vaccination of pregnant women can occur in any trimester.
The emphasis should be on vaccine receipt as soon as possible to maximize maternal fetal health.
The recommendation applies to both primary series and vaccination.
And booster vaccination.
You know, Jim, you've been an OBGYN for a really long time.
I mean, 40, more than 40 years.
You know, I've been in medicine, you know, for 35, 30, 35 years.
It's always been that pregnant women are sacrosanct.
You don't even want them to take an antihistamine.
You barely want them to take a Tylenol if they've got a headache.
You know, you don't want them to drink alcohol.
You don't want them to smoke.
You don't want to do all of these things.
And primarily, I mean, they're for their entire pregnancy, but for sure in the first trimester, because that's when, you know, all of those fetal cells are developing organ systems and.
Developing all the things that they need to do on sequence.
But they're saying vaccination may occur in any trimester.
So that means you go in to see your OBGYN, you just found out you were pregnant, you're like maybe 10 weeks pregnant, and they give them a COVID shot.
What's the result of that?
What happens when you do this in the first trimester?
Read it.
It's right on your slide there.
Read it to your audience.
This is our Pure reviewed medical journal that I published our analytics for this fraudulent Shimabukuro article.
It's absolutely disgusting.
I'll read it.
Go ahead, you read it.
What we have is in the Shimabukuro New England Journal of Medicine article, which was put out to try to neutralize the deadly information that Pfizer had.
Because remember, at this point in time, they were trying to bury it.
So they had to hurry up and publish stuff and put it in the New England Journal of Medicine to try to undercut this anxiety and this thought.
So what they did was if you, I don't know if you can see my pointer.
Can you?
Uh, yes.
Okay, so, uh, here we go.
Um, there were allegedly 115, uh, pregnancy losses, uh, miscarriages, 13.9%.
pregnancy losses, miscarriages, 13.9%.
However, look at the data more closely.
There were 700 of these women who weren't vaccinated until the third trimester, long after a spontaneous miscarriage would have occurred.
Nonetheless, the authors included these 700 third trimester vaccination denominator When they calculated spontaneous abortion rate based upon their own straight statistical data and their sleight of hand, the authors pegged the spontaneous miscarriage rate at 12.6%
104 out of 827, when in fact, it was actually 82%, 104 out of 127.
This is not Jim Thorpe's data.
This is the fraudulent data of the fraudulent, the deceptive, the injurious killing of the HHS, CDC, New England Journal of Medicine, the medical military industrial complex, This was ghostwritten.
My seven-year-old grandson could have done a better job writing this article with just a few phone calls from me.
I guarantee you that.
This is horrible.
So they put this out.
They put the seal of approval.
And I still have morons all over the world say, oh, it was published in the New England Journal of Medicine, you know.
Or they'll take a pot shot at this peer-reviewed journal, which is out and say, well, that's a trash journal, you know, you need to publish in the New England Journal of Medicine.
No, I'm sorry, you got it the other way around.
This journal has the reputable ability to let us get peer-reviewed, and they don't have a preordained, orchestrated disinformation campaign to kill the pregnant women of the world.
You know, I mean, I, um, you know, I had Poppy Daniels on my show a couple of weeks ago, and I know that you're working with her on a couple of projects.
She's an OB-GYN out of Florida.
And she's out of Missouri.
She's out of Missouri.
That's right.
I'm sorry.
She is out of Missouri.
I was thinking there's, um, someone else I interviewed out of Florida.
Um, Kim Biss.
Yeah, Kim Biss.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So I've interviewed both of them on my, on my Bridie Ann show on Monday nights.
Um, And it was very interesting, I think, for the audience to understand just that last slide of what you were just talking about.
A miscarriage is something that happens before 20 weeks.
That's, you know, like in the first trimester.
Always.
It's always, by definition, for as long as there's been OB-GYNs, as long as there have been, you know, all of this profession, miscarriages were defined as what happened in the first trimester up to 20 weeks.
When these babies are dying at 24 weeks, 30 weeks, 36 weeks, these monsters are calling those miscarriages when they are not.
They're inter-fetal uterine demise, which means something killed them.
And I know I've heard both you and Dr. Christian Northrup talk about that over the course of your careers, that you may have seen one or two of those per year, right?
You know, that didn't happen very often.
And sometimes it was a genetic anomaly.
Sometimes you just didn't know.
But now we know and this is happening just over and over and over again.
And so I really hope that everyone who's listening to this will understand your doctors have lied to you.
And this is 1 more area, 1 more area.
of medicine where you can no longer trust your physicians.
You just can't.
Can't trust your pediatricians.
Can't trust your OBGYNs.
You shouldn't trust your internal medicine doctors who are just writing prescriptions for you.
Healthcare has never been in such a mess, Jim, in all the years that we've been in medicine.
The respect for our profession has never been as low as it's been, and rightfully so.
Rightfully so.
Amen, Dr. T.
You know, one other thing before you go into this slide, I want to mention from your paper that I thought was just like mind-numbing was they talked about what they're doing in terms of paying off these OBGYN people.
You know, Year one was 2022.
Then it says in year three, ACOG will focus on developing Maintaining and promoting tools to combat misinformation on COVID-19, which has emerged as a significant barrier to the uptake of vaccination during pregnancy.
ACOG will also assess which of their districts and sections are the most in need of additional education Outreach and focus in their efforts in those communities, meaning how much more propaganda do they need?
How much pressure needs to be put on those physicians?
Because when you go into your doctor's office and you say, no, thank you.
I've researched a shot.
I'm not taking it while I'm pregnant.
In fact, I'm not taking it ever.
That goes into your medical record.
And if you know, if you've heard me talk to Twyla Braze, who's going to be joining me here next week or the week after, again, we're going to have a monthly segment on the, the, uh, who's in your exam room with your, you and your doctor and who else is in the exam room.
Hundreds and hundreds of people get to see your medical record.
You think it's private?
It's not.
And now in year three, they're still going to be pushing these shots.
What does that tell us, Jim, about where we are with these shots?
It's horrible, Dr. Chi.
And listen, let's get back to what you just said, Dr. Chi.
You said everybody else is in the exam room.
That's exactly the point that Maggie and I made in the article.
As I reminded Maggie, okay, remember with your first pregnancy, you're a young, beautiful, pregnant woman.
You're sitting almost completely bare naked in a cold exam room waiting to see Your obstetrician who you trust in the most intimate exam and time of your life.
And you expect privacy and you expect independence and you expect this trusted obstetrician who you trust, love and adore to give you information from you.
You were raped in that exam room.
You weren't talking to your obstetrician.
Your obstetrician was told what to tell you.
It's a charade.
The ACOG spent massive amounts of money to train all the district and section headers to tell that obstetrician exactly what to do.
So the CDC was in that intimate exam room with you.
ACOG was in that intimate exam with you when you were getting your pelvic exam and your breast exam and your pap smear.
ACOG was there.
Jim Abacura was there.
But it wasn't your honest, trusting obstetrician.
Wow.
Sooner or later.
We've got to get people to understand this.
I'm so grateful that you've been on this, on here with me this morning, these incredible slides.
You put a huge amount of work into these slide deck, the slide deck.
Dr. Thorpe, I'm telling you, this is amazing.
We do have one of the questions, a couple of questions that have come up and a little bit off course, off base of what we're saying about the buy off of ACOG.
I want to mention one additional thing, though.
It's not just ACOG.
You showed that great big slide.
I'd love to get that slide from you.
The 1 that shows all of the different organizations.
I'll send you my whole deck.
Oh, thank you.
I just want to mention, because I posted this yesterday, because it was something that came into.
I'm not even sure why I'm on this list, but the American Osteopathic Association put out their, I don't know, I think it's their monthly newsletter.
And I just happened, I always open them just to see what they're up to, right?
And this was an application opened for Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Unification Award.
The American Osteopathic Association is proud to accept nominations for the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion DEI Unification Award.
This award will be presented to one individual and one organization that have demonstrated exemplary leadership and commitment to promoting and advancing DEI initiatives within the osteopathic community.
No respect for the individual.
All of this diversity, equity, and inclusion is just the whole woke agenda that they're just cramming it down our throat.
I was just appalled.
It's a woke agenda, Dr. T, to destroy God's building block of the family, the basic unit of God and the basic unit of our society.
The woke nonsense is all about Giving God a middle finger.
Yes, absolutely.
Thank you for saying it.
So distinct.
It's so absolutely correct.
I mean, they want to eliminate God from our planet, from our lives, from every element of our of what we're doing, including the sacred relationship between a mother and her child.
Whether that child is unborn or is young.
Absolutely.
And doesn't it make sense that the whole system would be aimed at destroying God's creation?
And I want to make it clear.
A few of the points that you made really resonated with me.
Yeah.
Okay.
My African-American brothers and sisters, my patients.
Okay.
They targeted you.
Look at all the money under the guise of putting in, you know, caring and loving for you.
No, they want to kill you.
They hate you.
Okay.
They want to kill you.
Okay.
This is a this is a this is a agenda of killing.
So they're putting money into actually my African American colleagues.
are very reluctant to take vaccines.
Why?
Because your government tried to kill them and experimented on them in the Tuskegee.
Experiment.
That's fact.
So they know that.
And I love the video of that incredibly brilliant young African-American man in, was it D.C.
or New York City, where the Dr. Death Fauci goes up and knocks on his door and tries to convince this brilliant young African-American gentleman Went up to his front door and tried to convince him to take the shot.
This African-American guy, I would love to find out who he is because we need to get him on your show.
He gave Fauci the speech of his life.
It was unbelievable.
He humiliated Fauci with facts.
And Fauci and his entourage, they're giving away free cars in these poor African-American neighborhoods.
We're, you know, raffling off to try to get them to take the death plot shot.
Same thing with my Hispanic brothers and sisters, exactly the same.
They're not trying to help your community.
They want to kill your community.
That's the death plot shot.
Fauci knew it.
I wasn't saying this two years ago.
I was just staying in my lane, but I have the data now and I have to speak the truth.
Can you close out your screen share there for a second?
Yeah, there we go.
Cause I do want to, you know, our morning coffee is really important about getting questions answered.
And this one I think is kind of important.
It's kind of off topic about what we're talking about, but you as a, your expertise in OB-GYN and your fetal maternal expertise, I think this is a really good question.
It says, dear Dr. Thorpe, my fellowship sister is pregnant with her third child.
She has a heart issue with an implantable defibrillator.
She didn't take the vax but she took the RhoGAM shot.
She was in the hospital a few weeks later with heart issues.
I asked her if she knew if the RhoGAM was made up of donated plasma.
She said yes.
I was sad for her.
Can we talk a little bit about the RhoGAM shot from pooled plasma and could people that have vaxed blood be contaminating the RhoGAM supply?
This is a really brilliant question.
It's really brilliant.
Thank you, Jody.
Really great question.
Jillian, really important.
I want to, did Jillian give us the age of that child that had the implantable defibrillator?
No, this is the mother that has the implantable defibrillator.
Oh, the mother.
Okay.
No doubt.
That's probably related.
I'm very suspicious that that was related to the shot.
But let's talk about Rogan.
The vials of Rogam, there's several companies making them.
Julian is right.
You're right, Julian.
It's Jody.
Jody.
Jody, you're right.
It is made from pooled plasma.
Jody, you're correct.
There could be spike protein in there.
Yes, Jody, you're correct in that the S1 split domain is the most deadly Bioweapon ever produced, and it permanently incorporates the production into your body.
So, and yes, it does shed.
Yes, it does shed.
So, the Rogam, you can't not take the Rogam because I don't have any other antidote to prevent isoimmunization.
So, you don't want to jump Out of the frying pan into the fire and I think that's what you're doing if you don't take the Rogan in my humble opinion.
Listen, the amount of spike protein that is in that Rogan shot Has to be very, very small because you're only looking at 5 ml.
It's not like you're getting 100 times that dose with a blood transfusion.
It's a small dose.
You have to take the RoGAM.
Otherwise, you could be looking at me in your next pregnancy with a baby that died inside the womb, not from the COVID-19 shot, but from RH disease or another isoimmunization.
So I get this question a lot, Jody.
It's a brilliant question.
But right now, you know, Dr. T and I, you know, we have to weigh, honestly weigh risks and benefits for all of our patients.
We don't care.
We're not influenced by advertising dollars.
But you know, it is my humble opinion, And I focused on Rh disease my entire career.
Unfortunately, you need to take the RhoGAM.
Now, one caveat here, Jody.
You do not need to take RhoGAM if the fetus is Rh negative.
You do not have to take Rogan if the fetus is Rh negative.
Your fetus is your baby, your preborn baby is Rh negative.
If mom is Rh negative and father of the baby is Rh negative, by definition, unless we have another, you know, Virgin Mary type thing, you know, Immaculate Conception, okay, or whatever, you know, this baby's Rh negative, you don't need Rogan.
And there's a couple of other things about that.
Number one, if you're not going to have any more children, you don't need to, if you plan to have no more children, you don't need to take it.
If you know your husband's blood type is what Jim is, what Dr. Thorpe is referring to, your husband is Rh negative and mothers are Rh negative, then Absolutely!
Your baby's going to be Rh negative and you don't need to do it.
There is a course that we have inside of Learning4U.
If you go to learning4u.org under the pediatric session or might be under the... I'm not sure which section it's under.
You can maybe pull up the chart.
But there's a whole long course that I put together about RhoGAM, about the history of RhoGAM, about how it had mercury in it up until 2001-2002.
There's a couple of other testing things that you can do.
They're expensive.
They're not covered by your insurance, but you can check to see about what's happening with your baby.
But I have a question for you, Dr. Thorpe, about this.
And I've not been able to find the answer.
When I was in medical school, and up until... I don't even know when they changed the recommendations.
Um, it was always you gave RhoGAM at the time of delivery, you know, when the placenta was pulling away from the from the inner uterine lining.
And that was the potential for mixing of blood from this ARDS positive baby into the mother.
You gave it at the time of delivery, and now they give it at 28 weeks.
Right because there's this leakage potential.
I mean, how many placentas leak that haven't been damaged by a car accident or they fell down the stairs or something like that?
It's just like a what if and now they start giving it at 28 weeks along with the flu shot in the pertussis shot.
And I just kind of wondered, when did this whole thing happen with RhoGAM, that instead of waiting until the baby's born, you could do a heel stick on the baby and find out what the blood type is of the baby?
Because even if your husband is Rh positive, if he's heterozygous, you could still end up with a Rh negative baby and not really need the shot.
But now that is gone out the window and I've looked and looked and looked and looked of when they made, to see if I could come up with a date, of when they made those changes and recommendations and why they're doing it now.
Can you answer my personal question about that?
Absolutely.
That's a great question, Dr. T. It's a brilliant question.
That happened, I believe, in the mid-90s.
I'm pretty certain.
Maybe late 80s.
And here's why.
And I do believe that it was based on good data.
Now, that's just my opinion.
And here's the deal.
75% of pregnant women will have detectable leakage of fetal blood into maternal blood.
75 or 80 percent, depending on.
Now, most of those are completely silent.
So, what we found was that, and I'm giving you a ballpark, was that using postpartum RhoGAM, we could probably only prevent, you know, let's just say maybe 80 percent of the subsequent RH disease, because 20 percent or so, arguably 15 percent, We're actually sensitized before birth by that leakage of even small amounts.
We use a test called Klyhauer-Betke, which is a flow cytometry test, and we can differentiate adult red blood cells from fetal red blood cells.
And if you use the flow cytometry metrics, you'll see that, you know, at any given time during any given pregnancy, 70 to 80 percent of them will have fetal blood in their circulation.
So if you did that test and you found that, if you gave RhoGAM, would it still be effective or not?
Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
So that's the science as best I know it.
Now back to her original question, if she's worried and we're about ready to have a new publication, I'll submit to you that the potential for spike protein in RhoGAM I just can't see that being a problem.
You know, yes, if you're getting 500 ml, 100 times that dose with a blood transfusion, yes.
But here's the other situation that I think that is what we need to focus on.
I believe that our new study will show that pregnant women are greater risk and breastfeeding women and maybe women of all, not pregnant, Are at great risk for the spike protein shutting.
Yeah, that transmission really is a problem and so is the infertility the, the, the, the.
Um, for preferential location for this spike proteins when they're in your body, either from the manufacturer from the shot that you got and that you're the messenger RNA is creating your own spike proteins or from the transmission from other people.
I know that is really real.
And the prefer the predilection of the spike protein going to ovaries and going to testicles.
We're seeing this new thing that has never been in medicine before.
They call it turbo cancer because it's so aggressive.
And from the time it's diagnosed to the time people die can be some months, weeks, even days.
And so that's, you know, what's really happening with these spikes in the transmission.
That's really important.
A question that comes up frequently, and maybe you know the answer to this, because I get this question and I don't know the answer.
These are questions such as, I didn't get the shot, but my spouse or my male partner did.
How much risk am I from getting spike protein when we have sex?
And how long do I have to wait before I can have sex with my partner again?
This is a brilliant question, and I think that this is a very brilliant question.
What we do know, fact, is that in the trial before the rollout, Pfizer and Moderna, they told their trial patient who got the vaccinated not to come in proximity to pregnant women.
They told them that.
And they told them not to have unprotected sex, too.
That's right.
They told them that.
So they knew.
But then when they rolled it out to the general population, December 14, 2020, OK, they didn't tell any of the general population that.
They protected their study patients.
They knew that it would damage pregnancies, but they didn't tell the general population that.
Isn't that horrible?
That is horrible.
And how long do you think that they need to wait?
Do we know?
Do we have any idea?
We don't know that data, but here I can share with you, and we're about ready, you know, Myself and Tiffany Prato, the CHD, Brian Hooker, Jill Newman, Dan McDyer, the whole national group that published our first paper over a year ago.
We're about ready to publish another paper on my cycle story and shedding.
And what we do know is that those individuals that are not vaccinated If they come in contact within six feet of a vaccinated person, three to five days later, those are the ones that had the severe menstrual abnormalities.
So it was a shedding event.
And the highest risk category was a partner that they lived with or had intimate relationships that was vaccinated.
That's fact.
I'm very certain of that.
I cannot be certain, nor can anybody else be.
How long you need.
I think that if you're trying to get pregnant, I would be very careful about, you know, having sex with a recently vaccinated person within three months prior to pregnancy.
And that's just common sense.
That's not based on any empiric data, except it is based on what I've learned and what we are about to publish.
You know, I've had a couple of conversations with Ryan, with Ryan Cole about this, you know, for the listeners.
He's a friend of mine.
He's a pathologist out of Idaho that has come forward and talked about these cancers and things.
And I've said, you know, one of the big problems and we talked about this early on, like in 2020.
About developing a commercially available test for spike protein so that you can get your blood drawn and see what your level of spike protein is.
You could get a semen sample and see, you know, how much spike protein is there.
Could you do that sequentially if your partner, if your male partner has had the COVID shot?
You know, how far out do we have to wait?
Is it weeks, months, years?
Is it forever?
That every time you test a semen sample, that you still find the presence of spike proteins in there.
That we know that women have come down with melanoma of the vagina.
They've come down with cervical cancer, cervical disease.
From having sex with vaccinated male partners.
Is there a way that we could develop a commercially available test so that people could test?
And this is becoming a problem.
The question that comes up frequently about, well, my daughters are 20.
How do they find a man to have to marry and have children with?
How can we test for this?
And so, and Ryan has said a couple of times, well, it's, you know, we've talked about developing this commercially available test, but the problem with it, and I looked into this early on, is that because these Pfizer shots and Moderna shots are still issued under EUA, to develop a commercially available spike protein test, the FDA would have to give it approval under an EUA, which they will never do because they don't care And they don't want to know.
They don't want to know how long it lasts because they think it doesn't really matter and they want everybody to be spike contaminated and die.
Yeah, Dr. T, I totally agree with that, except I would say we're putting the cart before the horse.
You know, I've talked to Ryan a lot.
I'm involved with another research group that Ryan is involved with, with Dan McDyer and Kimberly Biss and Tiffany Parato and many other experts.
And we're actually looking at doing that testing.
But here's the deal.
We don't know for certain what is being shed.
You're assuming that it's spike protein, and Ryan is assuming that, and I'm assuming that, but we haven't proven that.
There's two other candidates.
It could be the lysosomal pseudo-uridinated man-made mRNA that's being shed.
We know that occurs.
It's in breast milk.
It also could be the lipid nanoparticle as well.
So we're making inferences here.
Before we develop a test for the shedding, we have to know exactly what is being shed.
And we don't know that.
And we don't know.
We don't know.
Well, this has been, and you're right.
I mean, we are assuming it's a spike.
It might be the lipid nanoparticle.
It might be the nanobot technology.
It might be graphene oxide.
It might be hydrogel.
I mean, we really don't know.
It's all bad.
It's all bad.
And we still don't even know fully.
We don't have a package insert.
We still don't know what's all in them.
And I will maintain, until proven otherwise, that there are lots of different recipes.
That because the manufacturing process is so shaky and so shoddy.
I mean, you know, Michael Yeadon talks about this a lot about how it's the bad how bad it's been and that I believe when you look at the German data and you look at the side effects and the big spikes, you know that there are different types of recipes that are going on.
But this morning I want to thank you so much.
Dr. Jim Thorpe for being with us this morning.
I mean, this has been just really really important.
Very, very important information, and it's going to be up.
It's up on Brideon.
It'll stay up there.
I mean, our morning coffee stays, morning coffee and our Brideon show stays out in the general public.
So people can get the links to this.
We'll send it out in our newsletter.
And just in closing, and just a final couple of words here, because we really have to run and we'll close out.
Dr. Thorpe, how would you like, what would you like to leave our listeners with this morning?
Don't take the shots.
Don't be silent.
Stand up for truth.
It's like I am a direct descendant of William Wallace Braveheart, and I modified his quote out of Braveheart.
All men die, but all men don't live.
And here's my modification.
All men, only some men live for the truth, and only some men die for the truth.
And that's a privilege and an honor.
Thank you.
Yes, and I would say women also, not just men.
Some women will die for the truth, right?
So yes, and that is really an honor and we're so grateful that you're in this battle with us.
You know, we just need to pull more and more physicians in and have them stop worshiping the love of money and get on board with what's right with their patients.
So I want to thank you so much for everyone who's joined us here this morning.
Thank you so much.
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Rejoice in hope, be patient in trouble, and be absolutely persistent in prayer.
So, until the next time, remember to lean into God.
Trust Him for everything.
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Thank you so much.
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