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March 17, 2023 - Jim Fetzer
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The New JFK Show #282 David Sanchez Morales CIA Superstar
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Welcome everyone to the new JFK Show number 282.
I had a couple of things I was going to bring to the table tonight, but Larry said... No, no, go ahead, go ahead, Gary, go ahead.
Go ahead, do whatever you need to do.
Yeah, let's go ahead with what you were talking about with David Morales.
We did a show maybe a year and a half ago on the new documents on Morales.
Remember?
I don't know if you guys remember, and in those documents, we found out about a newly released file on him, which was only 61 pages.
Paltry.
And to say the least, when somebody as prominent as Morales, you know, should have, you know, Should have had jillions of pages to his 201 file and all of his files, you know, relating to the CIA.
Let me just interject here for anyone who is unfamiliar, when E. Howard Hunt was on his deathbed, he survived, but he told his son, St.
John, that the chain of command in the assassination of JFK had gone from Lyndon Johnson to Cord Meyer To David Atlee Phillips, to William Harvey, to David Sanchez Morales.
In other words, that he was running the op in Dallas.
So this is extremely important, the idea that he's got this miniscule file.
Larry and I have bigger fucking files than that in the CIA, I'll guarantee you right now.
And a fellow by the name of Ted Shackley, who was his immediate boss,
All right, who is known as the Blonde Ghost, but what we're gonna talk about here, we're gonna revisit what we did previously on David Morales, but now with something additional to that, which gives us a much broader interpretation on his role in this whole thing, you know, about the JFK assassination.
So, Let me, uh, can I have the screen, don't I, Derek?
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay, okay, okay, hold on, hold on.
This is gonna be a lot of fun because this is a brand new document that just came out.
It's gonna blow your socks away, so relax and enjoy it, okay?
And, okay, David.
So, I'm going to go ahead here.
And you guys...
We've seen this one before, right?
Remember the CIA's one-man gang from the new documents that came out in 2017 and 2018?
And we went through this material before, okay?
And here's one that just came out
Now, David Sanchez Morales was deeply involved in the Cuba situation there immediately after Fidel Castro, and we have essentially been able to connect him to the, and I think we've gone through this before, the La Cubre explosion of a French
boat in Havana, okay, the incident where it exploded with, well, ammunitions and armaments were being offloaded, killing over 100 people, okay, and we went and we dug deeper, and we found out that Sanchez and we went and we dug deeper, and we found out that Sanchez Morales, you know, being a one-man gang, that was one of his specialties, you know, Jim and Gary, you know, underwater demolition, you know, and it just so happens that this is what
And it just so happens that this is what happens to the Kubrick, who's, by the way, all the files on this incident remain classified by the U.S. government.
Okay, hello.
Now, that is the same incident where Che Guevara was captured in this iconic photograph by Alberto Korda that day, which all of this had to do with the protests and the demonstrations after the explosion of La Cubre in Havana Harbor there.
And so this whole thing that's going on with La Cubre, Believe it or not, traces back to David Sanchez Morales, alright?
Because that was his specialty.
And right after the incident, you know, all of his files, all the CIA files become unavailable to anybody, alright?
Now, any questions on this?
You guys, uh...
Well, it's all great stuff, Gary, and we know he played a key role not only in JFK, but he appears also to have been involved in Bobby's assassination as well.
Well, you know, that's, you know, food for thought for, you know, later, you know, but we're talking about at this moment, you know, the early incidents that happened in Havana.
And, you know, right after, you know, Fidel Castro took over and how the CIA was trying to undermine Fidel Castro and the whole thing about, you know, the how they were going to take back Cuba, the how they were going to take back Cuba, you know, after the having been, you know, such, you know, a prize and everything.
But that's, you know, that's it.
You know, right now, that's not what we're going to talk about.
But now this guy, David Morales, you know, he had a pseudonym, which was Stanley Zamka.
All right.
Okay.
And in you can see this in his fitness reports and.
And so here is a... You guys, you're not going to believe this.
This is one of the most important documents I have come across here.
Because it says here that from Havana, okay, to the director at the time, 1959, and this is before the La Cobra incident, you know, maybe like six months, you know, eight months?
And here we have Zamka, who is David Morales, and ref technicians arrived in Havana evening.
Zamka brought in tech supplies without difficulty.
Now, what does that mean?
You know, I mean, it's pretty obvious to me that... Explosives!
And his whole Uh, we're talking about that this guy was an expert in underwater demolition, and this is what, you know, he's bringing, you know, to, and this is at a time where already it is impossible to get into Cuba, all right?
Because this is already, you know, post Fidel Castro taking over Cuba.
Now, this is, now, one of the, just really trips me out right here, And it says, request male document specialist and female disguise specialist to meet Zamka in Miami.
This is after the fact.
Now what the hell does that mean?
Sounds like you want to change his appearance.
I mean, Jim and Gary, I've never seen anything like this and I have to, and I put it on my blog because this is really crazy shit here.
You know.
What are we talking about?
Is he trying to have a woman disguised as well?
Or have a woman... You tell me, Gary.
You tell me.
Sounds like he needed to... What is your interpretation of this?
I'm trying to see.
It says requested male... Document specialist.
Document specialist.
And then a female disguised...
Is he trying to cover up a woman?
Is this some kind of crazy ass... This is James Bond.
...transvestite or something like that?
This kind of shit?
Anyway.
This stuff doesn't, you know, cease to amaze me, but anyway.
So, anyway, we went back and we looked at the New York Daily News, April 1975, okay, and In this, it was like a four series of articles, and in there they talked about the La Cobra explosion, you know?
And they say, clearly, Frogmen blew up French ship in Havana.
And right here in red, you know, we're talking about something that exactly would have been directed by David Sanchez Morales!
Hello!
Yeah.
All right.
So... Scroll down a little more, Larry, so we can see the paragraph in red.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You guys want to go ahead and... I mean, this is important stuff, because this... This article, one of four published by Paul Miskolm.
If you go back, I'll include that part.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there it is.
The New York Daily News, April 9th, 2017.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
At 8.10pm on March 4th, 1960, a French militia ship blew up in Havana Harbor, killing at least 75 people and injuring more than 200.
A vessel, La Couvre, exploded during the unloading of 76 tons of ammunition grenades intended for Fidel Castro's military and police forces.
Castro suspected sabotage but couldn't prove it.
The United States denied any involvement in the ensuing war.
Of course it would, but I mean, this is one of the most significant events In the entire Cuba-US, you know, situation there, you know, in those days, and Russia, you know, the Soviet Union, you know, sucked her in between me.
I mean, I don't know of anything that could have been more significant than this, you know, and then having that it's been covered up.
Killing 75 and wounding over 200 is stunning all by itself, Larry.
That this was interfering with Castro's military operation clearly points in the direction of the source responsible.
Former CIA agent told the news recently that La Cobra was sabotaged by CIA frogmen.
He said an underwater demolition team slipped into the water at night and attached a bomb to the ship's hull under the waterline.
The bomb, a detonator and a timing device, were in a waterproof container, he said.
The ex-agent added that the Frogmen were Cubans working for the CIA.
It was definitely a CIA-connected thing, he said.
Another source said the bomb was supposed to go off around 3 a.m.
When the waterfront was deserted, but something went wrong with a timer and the blast came 12 hours later when the area was crowded with dock workers and arbor traffic.
Frankly, I don't think that's an accident.
Still another source.
Formerly connected with the CIA and other intelligence agencies in the Caribbean area, blamed the big blast on General Rafael Trujillo, the dictator of the Dominican Republic.
What a fantasy!
Well, of course, and he himself was taken out by the CIA.
Yeah, this is like saying rogue Ukrainians blew up the Nord Stream pipeline.
Draghio and his Minister of Intelligence, Chief Johnny Albiz, had many conferences with CIA officials and secret agents.
On one occasion in 1960, Draghio offered CIA agent Frank Sturgess— Your guy!
Yeah, we know the guy.
Yes.
And Pedro Villalobos.
Pedro Villalobos, who was a pirate who went to the harbor.
Yeah, yeah.
Former chief of Castro's Air Force, for God's sake.
A million dollars to lead an invasion of Cuba from the Dominican Republic.
Díaz-López declined, telling his CIA bosses he didn't want to work for another dictator.
So, this whole thing comes full circle here because this UPI story picks up on that.
Yeah, Larry, let me just add for anyone new, Frank Sturgeon appears to have fired the shot that entered JFK's right temple from the intersection of the triple underpass and the picket fence.
Just to understand how key the players are we're talking about here, He may have been the best shot in the world at the time.
Larry, continue.
Well, not only that, you know, he's the one who masterminded, you know, that situation with Maria Lorenz and all that thing that, you know, uh, Jimmy Boots arrested him trying to kill her.
Yeah.
And, uh, which you can read about in, uh, Jim Morris crossfire, obviously, you know, so anyway.
Uh, so, this guy, now, Morales, you know, we have this thing going on with the Bay of Pigs, and this is one of the most incredible documents that comes out, which actually accuses him, or points the finger at him, as being, you know, one of the ones responsible for the Bay of Pigs' failure, okay?
Let me go here uh because we already seen this but the document that I want to show you guys because it's just going to blow your socks away um uh here let me go here boom boom uh here okay here wow really crazy stuff uh between uh
That and the non-redacted version.
Oh, redacted.
Okay.
There we go.
Thank you.
Go.
My screen share.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm gonna do that now.
Okay.
It's crazy.
How much time we got?
You got plenty of time, Larry.
We can't see the screen, though.
You gotta re-screen share.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna get here.
Okay, screen share.
Here we go.
Okay, here.
This is... 1990... Can you guys see this?
1993?
This was released, you know, what... How many years ago?
Almost 30 40 years ago.
Okay, and uh, this is these are the redactions Okay, and it has to do with 1963-1964 Miami station action to aid the u.s government investigation of the murder of john f kennedy And we see these redactions you guys with me here Okay now
Recently, and this just came out on Mary Farrell, this is the 2022 release, and this is the non-redacted version of that document.
Now, if you look and you read and you understand what David Morales was about, this, in my view, is a report written by Morales, and at the end, And I have alerted some of the people that know about this, and since I didn't get a reply, you know, I'm going, this is right here.
Donald R. Heath, okay, and he's the guy that writes this in 1977, okay, and it is a complete report on the Cuban exiles and what they were up to, you know, and During and after the JFK assassination, 1963 to 1964, Miami station action to aid the U.S.
government investigation of the murder of John F. Kennedy.
Now, the author of this has the audacity, Jim and Gary, to say, the murder of John F. Kennedy, right away, to me, that's a fucking, excuse me, a beacon of that this, the author of this Report has to be none other than David Sanchez Morales All right, and if you guys Yeah, I read it.
Oh Absolutely now I just want to go back and forth here and show you guys what the redactions were before and after And you know because I believe that is extremely Significant because it tells you what they were trying to cover up, correct?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, of course So, basis for my knowledge about this topic, okay, and we've got all these... oh shit, hold on.
I think I just... Okay, here we go.
Can you see that?
Yep, yep.
All right, okay.
So we have two documents, this one and this one.
This one and this one, all right?
So, now, before and after, okay?
I served from 29 March 1962 to 20 August 1966 and redacted.
Okay, over here we go.
I served from 29 March.
You follow?
You guys follow here?
Yes.
Yes.
Foreign intelligence branch of the Miami Station.
Right.
Okay, so we go back and forth.
Scroll down a little bit.
Okay, after Exile Affairs, We go, my duties also included working very closely with the Station Covert Action Branch and less closely with the Counterintelligence and Paramount.
This is fucking David Morales here, dudes!
You know?
Excuse me.
So we might want to go, this is the non-redacted, OK?
And it's six pages long, you guys.
Now, Amott.
You know, I can tell you guys what Amott was all about, you know, because it's mentioned here.
Amott had to do with the upper echelon Cuban exiles who were highly talented and who were available to be placed into higher echelons of government and the new Government of Cuba once Fidel Castro was, you know, gotten rid of, you know.
Those were the Amos, and these were highly sophisticated and trained Cubans, you know, who were available to slip into those positions, you know.
And if you look at this, I mean, one of these here, number four, just really trips me out.
Obviously, the Miami Station sit reps, those situation rep reports, would have made only cursory mention.
I mean, what this whole document is about is how the CIA went about approaching the Cuban community on, you know, if they were involved in any way in the assassination of JFK, and what they knew about the whole thing here.
And some of the stuff here just blew me away, because, you know, he's going about cursory Let me read it.
It's worth going through the whole document, Jim.
We're about to do that.
By the way, this is brand new.
Mary Farrell just came out.
I mean, we're getting first dibs on this document right here.
Yeah.
First off— Memorandum for the record.
Subject, 1963-64, Miami Station.
Action to aid U.S.
government investigation of the murder of John F. Kennedy.
Basis for my knowledge about this topic.
I served from 29 March 1962 to 20 August 1966 in the Foreign Intelligence Branch of the Miami station.
Duties included handling a certain number of Cuban exiled residents in Miami used to support FI operations in Cuba.
FI means Foreign Intelligence Operations.
Him recruiting foreign agents in Cuba to do what he wants them to do.
Go ahead.
I also kept up loose contact with other Cuban exiles who were considered informants on specialized aspects of Cuban affairs and Cuban exile affairs.
My duties also included working very closely with the station covert action branch, and less closely with the counterintelligence and paramilitary branches.
I had irregular contact with the station's security office.
Locating agency records of Miami Station action to help investigate the John F. Kennedy murder, too.
Oh, and stop right there.
Stop right there.
Isn't this completely disrespectful, Jim and Gary, to call the John F. Kennedy a murder?
You mean as opposed to assassination?
Instead of what it really is?
Well, for him, it was just another hit.
Exactly!
Thank you.
Thank you, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
During March 1962 to mid-1964, communication security between headquarters and Miami Station was not always good.
Headquarters Cuban Task Force senior and middle grade officers often used a telephone to communicate requests to the Miami Station or to check on developing operations.
The feeling at headquarters was that the double talk conversation were fairly safe because they were flowing by landlines and were therefore not subject to elite comment collection.
In 1964, there was a crackdown on telecons between headquarters and the Miami station.
I believe this was at station chief Theodore G. Shackley's report.
That's number one clue right there because Theodore Shackley, the blonde ghost, Was David Sanchez Morales's immediate supervisor.
He was the one who did all of the dirty work for Ted Shackley, trust me.
What?
One reason for reducing telecoms was security and the other reason was headquarters officers were not always careful to follow their telecoms with a cable or dispatch for the record.
I describe this communication situation because it's quite possible that immediately following the Kennedy murder, Is he nonchalant?
Isn't he nonchalant about this whole thing?
Go ahead.
Miami and Miami stationed office of security to conduct investigations and then failed to follow up with cables for the record.
Isn't he nonchalant about this whole thing?
Well, but he also speaks with great authority.
I mean, he knows exactly what he's talking about.
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
From mid-Abrow 1962 until shortly after Mr. Shackley's departure, PCS, in the spring of 1965, the Miami station said headquarters a situation report by cable at the end of each workday.
Each operating and administrative component of the station contributed to this sit-rep.
Situation report.
Which was produced for a specific topical section about developments at the station in Cuban intelligence reporting and in operations underway.
Occasionally, the SITREP would report results of investigation conducted by station operation officers through contacts in the Cuban community in Florida.
These investigations are discussed below.
The SITRAPs had a headquartered file category classification number on them, for I saw them in 1973 in folders in the office of David McLean, Latin American division historian.
I believe these SITRAPs can be retrieved with the help of documented file retrieval specialists at IPCFS.
IPCFS is records, okay?
Internal records.
Go ahead.
Let's look at that last sentence, Jim.
I believe that through November 1963 through March 1964 will contain information about efforts of the Miami Station to investigate Cuban links to the murder of President Kennedy.
Let's look at that last sentence, Jim.
This is of incredible significance here.
I believe the SITREPS for November 1963 through March 1964 will contain information about efforts of the Miami station to investigate Cuban links to the murder of JFK.
All right, so there is definitely a suspicion here of Cuban exile involvement In the JFK assassination.
Now, let me just remind some of our viewers here that previously we did, remember the Cuban and the Umbrella Man, okay, on Elm Street and everything and how there might have been a connection there, remember?
I remember!
Néstor Tony Esquadra appears to have been the animal firing from the Daltex.
Three shots with a man that Carcano supervised by George H.W.
And also, Jim, also there is evidence that these Cuban exiles have been tracking JFK from one city to another, you know, trying to find, you know, perhaps the perfect situation, you know, to take them out.
Yeah, I agree.
Four.
Obviously, the Miami situation— This is the one that's going to blow you away.
I mean, this is just great stuff here.
Go ahead.
Would have made only cursory mention of station efforts to investigate a Cuban role in the Kennedy affair.
Can you repeat that again?
About a cursory— Go ahead.
Obviously, the Miami station sit-reps would have made the only cursory mention of station efforts to investigate a Cuban role in the Kennedy affair.
Now, a cursory, like, obviously, he's talking about, obviously, we don't give a shit, right?
Or we're seeking to cover it up.
Hello?
Sensitive and detailed reports by the station concerning the investigation may have gone to headquarters via special cable channels.
However...
On the chance that some reports of investigation were set by routine cable and dispatch, I would suggest a check with Chief Information Management and Planning Group Room 1D27 Phone Red 9407 about the possibility of using the SPIN research system to find records of Miami station efforts to investigate the Cuban role in the Kennedy Affair.
To investigate the Cuban role in the Kennedy Affair?
We have never ever known about this SPIN that existed within the CIA, Jim and Gary.
Yeah.
And he says, "More of this system permits querying computerized records for textual keywords combined with…" Exactly.
Thank you.
And this sounds like something today, you know, textual and keywords.
Sure.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
"For textual keywords combined with area codes and other key factors to locate documents containing complex types of information." Now, holy shit, man, this is like, you know, this is like today.
You know, if you look at this, you know, what this paragraph is telling you here about keywords and textual and how to access information.
They're changing.
Basically, today's technology just processes more faster, Larry.
And we're talking about something, this document is, you know, you know how old this document is?
Yep, yep, 1977, right.
Hello?
Five.
Finally, I suggest IPCFS may be able to help locate the archival copies of Miami Station memoranda to the Miami field agencies of the FBI and Secret Service for the period commencing with the president's assassination.
Very much aware of, you know, things, you know, the crown jewels, for example.
Miami Station Operation Procedures for Crash Investigations.
Six.
Soon after his arrival at the Miami Station, Mr. Shackley organized several fast-reaction procedures for coping with rapid developments in Cuba or in the Cuban exile community in Florida, which required speedy and augmented reporting.
The fast reaction procedures involved alerting officers of the station to a query resident agent in Cuba who had with a WT combo.
WT means wireless transmission.
Okay.
At the time, which would have been radio telephone or radio telegraph transmissions, you know, wireless, you know, which at the time were, In their infancy.
Go ahead.
With our station or a combination of WT to the agent, a telephonic response from the agent to a cutout in the Miami Cuban community.
B, use of Singleton XL support agents and the AMOT intelligence service in Miami.
Yeah.
To communicate with.
Yeah.
My name on.
AMOT, which earlier I mentioned were the group of exiled Cubans who were highly trained and highly sophisticated in their opposition to Fidel Castro as a function of being organized by the CIA, okay?
So, these AMOTs, you know, were actually—the AMOT operation was run by, of all people, David Sanchez Morales.
All right, so.
With lists of on island contact, my opponent with lists of Cuban exiles in the US who were regular sources of information.
Seven.
I believe the first time I recall seeing the station fast reaction investigation system deployed was in late April 1962 when word was received from another US.
agency.
—from another U.S.
agency that imminent exile paramilitary activist Rolando Masferrer— Masferrer, and the only other agency could have been the FBI, of course.
Had left his base in New Jersey and was believed to be headed to Florida with a band of men for an operation against Cuba.
Which never happened.
Which never happened.
And that's one of the things that I've seen throughout, you know, my investigations of the Cuban exile movement.
You know, they all, you know, talk the talk, but they wouldn't walk the walk.
The only one who did walk the walk was Eloy Gutierrez Monoyo.
All of the others, they talked all this bullcrap And never, never went ahead and invaded Cuba.
Eloy Gutierrez-Manoy, the last time he went into Cuba, he parachuted, you know, into the island, you know?
Wow.
Wow.
Now, you go and talk about guys like Manoel Rey and Manoel Timé and Masferrer, none of them had the cojones to do any of that.
Sorry, but I had to, you know... That's good stuff, Larry.
I recall that a number of officers in our FBI branch, our paramilitary branch, and the CIA branch were asked to hit the streets of Miami to query Cuban exile contacts about the possible location plans and armaments of Masferrera.
The AMOT service was, of course, the principal mechanism for checking on Cuban exile actions in violation of the Neutrality Act.
Yeah, because the AMOTs were the higher echelon, like I said, you know, Cuban exiles who were, you know, highly educated and sophisticated and everything, you know, and they were the ones that David Sanchez Morales, you know, manipulated, you know, during all this time, you know, right after the Castro wars, so many
The first two or three years were crucial, you know, and when nothing happened after that, you know, the drive, you know, by the Cuban exiles kept, you know, diminishing, you know, little by little, and that's what happened.
The late, swinging early summer of 1962 saw extensive use of the station past investigation capability.
Refugees arriving at Opa-Locka Air Base Refugee Processing Center began in late May to report that some kind of major counter-revolutionary action was afoot in Cuba.
But it never happened.
It never happened.
Always bullshit.
Go ahead.
And that's exactly the definition of David Sanchez Morales.
He worked on the Shackley.
there was unusual military movement inside Cuba.
I recall being one of many case officers directed by Mr. Shackley through my branch chief to alert my particular string of Cuban exile informants.
And that's exactly the definition of David Sanchez Morales.
He worked on the Shackley.
You know, this paragraph is telling you exactly that this is David Sanchez Morales.
And go ahead, because this is good stuff.
Directed string of Cuban exile informants of phone relatives inside Cuba and try to get supportive information through double talk.
I remember during the first two weeks of June, I was given lists of person debriefed at Obra Laca, told to seek them out and question them again.
Other case officers had similar assignments. - Yes.
Nine.
During the period following the Cuban Missile Crisis, fall of 1962, at the time of the Kennedy murder, I believe I recall- Kennedy murder again, you know?
Look how disrespectful he is.
I recall perhaps five major incidents where Mr. Shackley called on officers throughout the large station to set in motion the procedure for checking through Cuban agents and informants on some rapidly developing problem in national security interests.
On two occasions in late 1962 and early 1963, I believe we scrambled to activate our sources because President Kennedy was traveling about in the USA.
Let me pause for a second here.
We're talking about a problem of national security interests, and you were talking about the time frame of probably October of 1962.
This is obviously talking about here of the Cuban Missile Crisis here.
Uh, you know, it's exactly the time frame, you know, that would have called for late 1962, correct?
Early 1963?
Yeah.
Right, yeah.
Headquarters and internal USG security agency wanted to be alerted to the presence of known dangerous Cuban exile activists in the area the president was to visit and wished to learn of any conspiracy being hatched in the Cuban exile community or in Cuba to exploit or interfere with the president's movement.
And they knew the Cubans were rabidly, you know, anti-Kennedy, you know, and you know, with the CIA and certain People within the CIA who blamed Kennedy for, you know, the Bay of Pigs, you know, fiasco and having, you know, not sent, you know, the air support that they wanted.
And so this is how This whole thing comes back to Kennedy through the undertow here of the CIA and the Cuban situation here.
During 1964-65, I recall being alerted by my station superiors on a number of occasions to have my sources collect vast information on such topics as A. Cuban exile or Castro-Cuban conspiratorial acts to exploit the visit of the Pope to New York.
B. Plans of Cuban exile groups that carry out attacks on or infiltration into Cuba in violation of the Neutrality Act.
C.
Location of automatic weapons, explosives, and sea craft being assembled by Cuban exile groups is a suspected violation of the Neutrality Act.
No, especially when you look at guys like Orlando Bosch, you know, you would understand those kind of crazy.
Oh, Jesus.
Procedures employed by a Miami station to aid investigation of the Kennedy murder attempt.
At the time of the Kennedy murder, I was on suspension from active duty because I had let my finance accountings fall behind.
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop right there.
I find this to be, Jim and Gary, one of the most important points here that you could find on David Sanchez Morales because If he had been suspended at the time of the Kennedy assassination slash murder, wouldn't he have been available to be anywhere in Dallas or anywhere?
Larry, it's like Lansdale reportedly resigning from the Air Force while he participated in orchestrating the murder.
So the Air Force couldn't be tied in.
And in this case, Sanchez, the CIA couldn't be tied in.
He would be a rogue agent.
And he's not even accountable.
Yeah.
He's not even accountable!
Yep, yep, yep.
No, I think you're right.
This is a very important sentence.
You know, where he had let his finance accountings fall behind, so he was suspended.
So, you know, he is invisible at the moment of the JFK assassination, Jim Garrett.
So he wasn't paying his bills?
No, that he had let his finance accounting and when you work for the CIA, and you have an expense account, you have to make sure that everything you know, is up to date.
That's what he's talking about.
Okay.
I was, however, president in the FBI branch at the Miami station when my chief... FBI means foreign intelligence.
Right, right.
When my chief, Mr. Warren Frank, issued a request to all case officers, there were about 12 of us in the branch at the time, to contact our agents inside Cuba and our support agents in Miami for leads possibly linking Castro Cuba to the Cuban exile community to the murder.
Hello?
Now, now, he's, this guy has, he has People working under him.
That's what some of this is saying to you, you know?
And what's going on with the people that he's got inside of Cuba, you know?
And what is the reaction After the JFK assassination, you know, there, I mean, there are a lot of leads in this document here that I'm showing you guys here.
This is, you know, before, and I wanted to show you guys, I think I went back and forth here, with the redacted... You did!
You did!
The redacted version and the non-redacted version of the document, you know, which Uh, this is new.
This just came out.
This document came out.
A lot easier to figure out when they don't redact everything.
Well, the reason they do that is because, you know, it's sleuths like us follow the lead, you know.
Eventually we're gonna find out, even if it's, you know, it's just in the head, you know, uh, what really happened.
You're at the wrong place.
Okay, so should I go down?
Oh, okay.
Procedures employed, I mean, I mean, What more do you need for a smoking gun than this one here, Jim?
Yeah.
Procedures employed by Miami Station to aid investigation, okay?
Now, I want to go down here.
Right here.
No, no, no.
This is where I want to go.
I want to finish reading the whole book.
You want to go back to 12?
I want to go back to where you were.
It was 10.
We're doing fine.
Okay, 11.
Here we go.
I do not recall whether Mr. Shackley was on station that day, but I recall Mr. Andrew Sforza, EMOT case officer, told me later that he had received specific instruction from Shackley about how the EMOT service was to go about aiding in the investigation.
I also recall quite clearly that there was communication from headquarters to our station about the need to query our assets.
There was also some communication from the FBI and other agencies to our station asking for information about possible Cuban involvement in the Kennedy murder.
Eleven!
Although I was not released from my financial backlog to join the investigation until the fourth day after Kennedy's death.
I recall making phone calls to agents of mine in Miami, and I recall sending a WT message to my chief agent, M. Wee Wan, in Cuba, with questions about possible Castro-Cuban involvement in the murder of Kennedy.
Which he would never find, obviously.
Go ahead.
Yeah, this is like setting him up with patsies.
Exactly.
It's at least floating it out there, Jim.
Right, right.
When I was released to meet with my agent in Miami, I recall having requirements on Agent McGabb 1 and M-PAM 22 related to the Kennedy murder.
Later, I asked political contact and Cuban exile leader Aming 3 that Agent Amblich 1 the same questions.
Eight!
Emily, Emily, before you go into this, This is somebody who obviously is in a position of management, okay?
He's talking about my agent here, my agent there, okay?
Go ahead.
Very, very relevant stuff right there.
Who the hell was there before and who disappeared after the assassination?
I agree.
after the Kennedy murder and has since been missing from Miami under suspicious circumstances.
Very, very relevant stuff right there.
Who the hell was there before and who disappeared after the assassination?
I agree.
Go ahead.
Right.
B, two, I mean, three, and then one, get me data on Cuban exiles who approach you or your associate during the fall of 1963 for assistance.
He gained sizable amounts of funds, weapons, or cars.
Absolutely.
Give me a list of all Cuban exiles or Cubano-Americans you consider to be capable of orchestrating the murder of President Kennedy in order to precipitate an armed conflict between Cuba and the U.S.
Is this some kind of effort to funnel that over into the Cubans?
This is clearly trying to create a false impression.
I mean, how could the Cubans, you know, affect the Yeah.
The autopsy at Bethesda.
This document was intended to lay an explanation for presumptive Cuban involvement when there was virtually none.
Big time.
Yeah.
Big time.
Big time.
D, Tablic 1, MGEM 1, and Aiming 3, give me a list of the richest Cubans in exile.
Cubans possessing sufficient personal wealth and the possible inclination of bankroll The murder of President Kennedy.
Another red herring.
That's right.
That's right.
This is just laden with red herrings.
Twelve.
The above questions will be on my agent.
We're not my own invention.
This is the most important paragraph of this whole thing.
"F.I. Branch of my station by our branch chief, Shackley, and fellow case officers.
Many other angles in question about Cuban links to the murder were assigned to specific agents, but I do not recall them all." - Crazy stuff.
This is the most important paragraph of this whole thing.
Go ahead. - "Some weeks after the Kennedy murders." Murder?
It's not even an assassination.
It's not important to him.
I went to Mexico for a meeting with my chief inside CubeAgent and we won.
Several weeks after he goes to Mexico City.
So don't you think he would have been hanging out with Wayne Scott?
Oh yeah, and what's-our-babe-down-there-was-running-the-show.
Before I left station, I went to the reports office and read through some pertinent lists of requirements for on-island assets.
I recall a question included observations on Island S that may have made about the activities of leadership personnel in the Cuban government in the days prior to and immediately following the Kennedy murder.
It's not an assassination, it's a murder.
I recall that in Mexico, AMUI1 described to me talks he held the days subsequent to the murder with FNU... FNU, which means First Name Unknown.
Melendez-Bosch.
Melendez-Bosch, protocol officer of the Human Foreign Relations Ministry, about what transpired in the ministry when the news... What kind of connection, I mean, this is open... What kind of freaking connection did Morales have with this person here?
I mean, that's a whole new...
Go ahead.
About what had transpired in the ministry when the news of Kennedy's death was received by wireless.
Wireless!
Right, right.
I recall that the night of the day that Kennedy was murdered and we once saw, Usmani sent a few ghosts.
And this is an incident that I find very, very interesting because this happened at one in the morning.
Osmalie Cienfuegos was a Cuban.
He was in the Cuban government as a minister of
And just so happens that he's in Mexico City on the day of the assassination of John Kennedy, and at one in the morning, he is seen driving, okay, here to this safe house, you know, in Mexico City at one in the morning, something that I'm trying to, you know, digest at this moment, because, you know, I'm looking at Osmanes y Fuegos, and there is very little information on this guy.
Yeah.
But what was he doing in Mexico City?
I have no opinion yet, okay?
Larry, Larry, Larry, he could be having a fling with a girlfriend here.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
He stayed in that house for several hours.
What kind of involvement, you know, in this whole thing, you know, is peripheral?
It's just to say the least.
The house was occupied by an American expatriate technician who built audio surveillance gear for the Cuban intelligence service.
Who was that guy?
We have no idea.
Go ahead.
I recall that Amway went opined that Sant Few visited the American that night because he was one of the few American sources the Cuban government could talk to in Cuba about what was going on in the USA as a result of Kennedy's murder.
In closing, I should point out that my involvement in seeking Cuban leads in the Kennedy murder was slight.
Slight?
Well, he knew everything about it already, Larry.
So, you know, this is such a phony report.
Other officers would have been more involved than I, though not in the assassination.
I would assume Mr. Shackley has a clearance for a collection of tasks the station may have given him.
And I was his immediate boss.
Been given to support an investigation of the Kennedy murder.
One final remark about Miami station investigation of the Kennedy murder, violation of the Neutrality Act and other developments.
All of us were very well informed about the limitations on CIA's right to conduct investigation of persons residing in the USA, whether they were alien residents or U.S.
citizens.
I do not recall anyone ever seeking information on security matters in the USA which was not related to Cuban exiles and their activities with respect to Cuba.
On occasion, I would come across information indicating action by U.S.
citizens to a. aid in violating the Neutrality Act or b. conduct espionage on behalf of a foreign power.
In such instances, I wrote up what I discovered and sent it through station channels Which is a pseudonym that we never before associated with David Sanchez Morales, all right?
of violation it was suspected and then withdrew from further attempts to acquire information signed donald r heath jr which is a pseudonym that we never before associated with david sanchez morales all right now obviously you know you have these pseudonyms you know galore that go you know it's completely prevalent in this in this case
But, you know, the information in this document, okay, especially since before that it was highly redacted and now we're able to digest, you know, for example, the spin thing here, you know, just what the hell was for example, the spin thing here, you know, just what the hell was spin, you know, and how they were able to isolate information by using keywords, you know, and using in a way which, you know, translate to something that, and using in a
What do you guys think about that?
You can flip off the docs so it's just the three of us talking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll stop.
Yeah, go ahead.
A great find.
Very important.
I think it's sensational you brought it up.
I can see the sense of urgency you attached to it appropriately.
So I'm very glad you persevered.
But this is...
You know, it's a document that is new.
It just came out just this past December after this whole thing that happened with, you know, with the new lawsuits, you know, that have been filed, you know, and the petitions, you know, regarding, you know, that the JFK Assassinations Review Board and its mandate has not been completely fulfilled, Jim.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely.
The way it is signed into law, and that is very disturbing.
Can you imagine the pressure the CIA has been applying to not have these docs released?
They are going all out.
And the very last ones, you know, and the thing about this is that every time that they release something, you know, they fill out a little piece of the puzzle, and we have a better understanding, and that's the problem there.
Yep.
Good stuff, Larry.
Thank you.
That's the problem, you know.
Trust me.
I'm telling you.
Because, you know, as the puzzle fills, you get more and more of a probability that the next one is going to give you a better understanding.
And that's what's going on.
Larry, you're doing a great job with every doc that comes out.
We congratulate you.
All right, man.
Have fun.
We'll travel.
We'll do it.
All right, Gary.
Yeah, this has been JFK number 282, a brand new document that we found out less than 24 hours ago, and there's a lot to uncover.
I think I'm going to have to go back and watch my own show to catch up with some of this stuff.
We'll see you next.
You're right, because we covered this one maybe a year ago, you know, regarding what we just covered.
You got it.
Good stuff.
We'll see you next week.
JFK number 282 with Larry Rivera and Jim Fetzer and myself.
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