The Raw Deal PART 2 (1 Feb 2023) DEEP DIVE on Tyre Nichols Case
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Mitchell, what happened? - what happened? - I don't know.
Nothing that I know of, Jim.
Here's Danny and... You got me and Brian now?
Yeah, we got everybody here for you.
Okay, thank you, thank you.
Danny, Danny, continue your conversation.
Sorry about that.
I think I have a pretty good idea what's going on.
Go ahead, Danny.
Can everybody hear me okay now?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're good.
You're saying you did the search, and you found the chief, and you found the victim, and you got the details, and you said he did have some kind of child abuse or something, but with Danny, my inference is there was nothing there that would have caused alarm, as though he would be a threat to the police, that they'd open the door and haul him out, because as I was explaining, in any stop I've ever had, and I've had my share, They were insistent, I say, in the car and not get out.
So, to me, this is completely bizarre.
Your thoughts?
Well, normally during a traffic stop, you always want the person to stay in the car because you can control the suspect.
It's safer for the officer and it's safer for the actual person that's getting pulled over to stay in the car.
You can control the scene.
You never want somebody getting out of the car because then that adds Uh, officer safety.
You have to control the suspect.
You don't know what they're going to do.
And you can control them when you're in the car.
But what I was saying about the, the, the suspect is he had a, um, an issue with child endangerment.
So that's over a child.
Uh, his, probably his child, uh, he was sued for, uh, child support.
So he had some other things besides that in his background that showed some financial irresponsibility for sure.
But the reason why they pulled him out of the car is because they're saying he was initially stopped for reckless driving.
We do not know, or are they not giving the circumstances for that stop.
We don't know if he fled an accident.
We don't know if he was just simply swerving or driving recklessly while going down the road.
We don't know any of those circumstances because they're not giving them out.
And what I found very troubling is when they interviewed the chief, her short comment on television was that she did not know what the reason was for the initial stop.
It wasn't, it wasn't clear.
And I found that a very troubling thing for a chief of police in a high profile situation to say at that time over the air, because the chief knows everything.
The chief has access to the radio calls.
The chief would be briefed on, you know, all the circumstances and would know and easily could figure out or find out what was going on before they went on television and got asked a question like that.
So I've never heard a chief say, I don't know why they stopped him.
So we don't have the circumstances, but reckless driving can be a felony depending on what level the reckless driving was at.
So it just kind of depends on the circumstances.
And there was a lot of circumstances around that stop, if we're going to go into it, that I would like to talk about that did not make sense prior to him pulling him out of the car and when they pulled him out of the car.
But you know, it was, it was definitely, they were acting like it was a felony stop.
So that would be, it was the severe version of the reckless driving.
But again, they did, they didn't give out yet, or they have not given out any details about the actual reason for the traffic stop other than it was reckless driving, sir.
Very good, Danny.
Very good.
Brian, I'd like you to pick up there and offer thoughts you have about any aspect of this, please.
Well, okay, so your audience may know that I don't exactly sit in front of the television and watch it.
I was Literally at your house when this broke and the first thing I noticed was that the mask on the time and date stamp looked very strange to me and that was on the Sean Hannity broadcast.
I photographed it real quick.
The mask is how you put the time and date stamp on the video.
I've since researched that and I believe that Sean Hannity just simply had a low resolution version that interpreted that mask behind those letters and the time and date stamp differently than I have normally seen on Axo's body cam footage.
So my initial indication led me to believe it was just a false flag, but that was literally 20 seconds of watching Sean Hannity's coverage of it.
Other than that, I didn't pick up the case until this morning.
And after now spending a few hours on the video, I I am of the opinion that while there is something strange about it, there was indeed a man that was beaten pretty good by these officers underneath the surveillance video.
We have four different cameras, four different body cams on it, and all of them seem to indicate a general correspondence.
What I was concerned about was that the pan-tilt zoom camera used from the street view that Was artificially modified to zoom in on that particular location where the beating took place.
But now I'm, I think that may be that that camera is just designed to pick up motion and zoomed in on it.
So I watched, um, what appeared to be four or five different officers involved in a pretty serious beating.
I also watched the subject, Mr. Nickel, Allegedly, being pulled out of the vehicle by unmarked police cars.
And, let me see, those guys were part of an organized crime unit that works in Memphis.
They call themselves, it's my understanding, they call themselves the Scorpions.
So, this guy was being watched.
Now, rumors have it that he was Picked up for reckless driving, or at least stopped for reckless driving.
He does have some speeding convictions, one from 2018 and one from 2014.
The 2018 was in California, where he's got ties to Sacramento in terms of some kinfolk, brothers possibly, and some sisters that live in the Sacramento area.
There's also, um, a child support judgment on him in the Sacramento area, Yolo County, Sacramento.
So, uh, he, he, he was born in 1993, June, June 5th, I believe.
And what I'm seeing is that I have a, uh, a death certificate that appears official.
It was filed with social security and it stated intent.
of, uh, the 10th of January.
So, the beating, according to the Axios video cameras, happened on the 7th, and we have a deceased report happening on the, uh, on the 10th, which may make sense, but what starts to smell funny about these serious events was that you don't have the GoFundMe set up until Just a few days ago.
And basically the GoFundMe that was set up by Rovon Nichols, who lives in the Memphis area, has now collected 34,000 donations totaling $1,331,960, which is an average of $39.17 donations totaling $1,331,960, which is an average of $39.17 per donation to this particular event.
And what is also interesting about the GoFundMe is that it doesn't show a deceased, The photograph on the GoFundMe doesn't show... It's titled the Tire Nickel Memorial, but it makes you believe that he's still alive and suffering treatment.
The photograph that is used was taken from a hospital bed of a man who had suffered a severe beating, allegedly Tire Nickel.
To me, where this gets to be a little hairy is not the actual video of the event.
And by the way, when I went ahead and did some research, I found that the story broke approximately seven days ago in your major media news outlet, not necessarily local, Uh, so you've got your CNN and your New York Times that break the story basically on a Friday night about 6 p.m.
that causes this thing to go viral.
Now, usually when you plant a story, or when a story breaks loose like that, it's not done on a Friday at 6 p.m.
unless you're trying to organize some type of response or elicit some type of response.
So they waited until a Friday night to release it.
Obviously, it's going to inflame black people.
It's designed to inflame black people.
It's nothing new to have a guy get pulled over and roughed up by some cops.
And I can tell you that based on my opinion, although I haven't been a police officer, I'm just a private investigator, he was resisting.
Cause him to get pepper sprayed and some of the officers to get some of that pepper spray also in their eyes.
Uh, they were pretty upset about it.
Um, what I have found on the officers is that they were between 24 and 30 years old.
Um, pretty, pretty tough dude.
So serious men with the serious capability to do some damage.
I don't know how well their training was.
I'd like to see their training and discipline records.
Like I said before, the rumor was that Nichols worked with, or the rumor that's breaking out in Memphis is that Nichols worked with one of the officers wide at a FedEx facility and that there was perhaps something or the rumor that's breaking out in Memphis is that Nichols worked with And so whether Nichols was warned or not, or whether he was pulled over leaving work at FedEx,
Uh, I don't know.
But, uh, it does appear the way he was pulled out of that car, like either they had seen something egregious, which I don't think because Nichols doesn't have a very, uh, he's got some speeding.
He doesn't have a real, uh, criminal history.
In terms of looking like he's a gangbanger or anything like that.
He comes from a family.
He's been around.
I don't have any reason to believe he was involved in any illicit activities.
I mean, I've been suspect for speeding.
It's no big deal.
So, you know, I guess this speculation theory that's beginning to gain some traction is that Nichols was sleeping with one of the officer's wives and they retaliated, which would explain the Heavy-handed behavior, maybe.
It still doesn't exonerate anybody.
But I think what bothers me about this is that you've got a death that took place on the 10th that's not broken until, what, the 20... 20... What was Friday?
April 1st.
It was broken on Friday.
April 1st.
It was broken on Friday.
So that was Friday, January, Friday, January 2020.
So I, I, I see something strange about 17 days of this thing being, well, let's say that the word was out, but it just hadn't been hit.
If somebody took the information and shared it with these mainstream media outlets, I suspect it was rove on well.
Who is the mother who set up the GoFundMe account that's raised $1.3 million.
Other than that, I don't really know what to tell you.
Let's see if there's anything else in my notes about this.
Brian, hold that thought.
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Ryan, did you have a further thought you wanted to add before I return to Danny?
No, just in conclusion, I guess I would say at this point my viewpoints indicate that this thing has been artificially amplified to stir up a particular crowd or zone of the American audience.
Um, in some sort of anti-police sentiment, whether they're black or whether they're white, yet the author of the email sent to you, uh, is, is, is correct in that it doesn't fit the normal narrative.
But then again, neither did the Half Moon Bay shooting that just recently happened that doesn't fit the normal narrative.
They used Asian, Asian victims and an Asian shooter.
So I do suspect that the people that are in charge of your normal false flags are changing the narrative up for the purposes of it.
It's just too easy for people like us to sniff it out.
But in my opinion, what I think is going on here is this Nichols beating has been amplified by the mainstream media for the purposes of stirring up a particular crowd and causing unrest.
Why they do it is usually, in my opinion, to take the focus off of some other area.
And for that reason, I would say it does qualify as a false flag because something like this wouldn't normally be covered except maybe locally.
And it certainly wouldn't be picked up by the New York Times and CNN first to break the story big on a Friday night at 6 p.m.
prior to a weekend.
Um, so for that, for that reason, I think that they've taken any event that shouldn't have taken place and built it and amplified it out.
And now you've got your 39,000, uh, donators who have given on average of 40, probably 60% of them are anonymous donors.
And we see this all over with false flag shootings, where this is, this is the way that they funnel money to these, uh, In other situations, the way they funnel money to crisis actors and victims to make sure that they keep the lid on the event.
So, I'm seeing a lot of the patterns, but I think that in this case, they used a video that was legit, and then it took them from the 10th or the 7th until the 27th to figure out how they were going to use it and amplify it in the media to get their desired outcome.
I'm especially interested in how you ferreted out that it may have been his having an affair with one of the cop's wives, which would certainly.
potentially explain what the hell's going on here and why they treated him so brutally.
I mean, it was grossly offensive.
This obviously was a violation of all kinds of police procedure, but it would certainly explain the motivation if they were extracting revenge.
How were you able to ascertain that was the case?
From what I'm reading, it broke forth on a controversial radio talk show in Memphis.
With an inbound caller who said they worked together.
So, you know, is it hearsay?
Yeah, not true.
Does it add a little color?
I don't know.
Very, very interesting.
Danny, your thoughts?
And apparently Brian was able to find information about police.
I'm interested in that difference.
But Danny, pick up wherever you like.
Yeah, there's quite a bit, Dr. Fetzer, I'd like to go through.
Uh, from the, from the stop to some of the things he just said.
Uh, he, he did not mention the child endangerment, uh, charge and arrest that he had where he got arrested for a felony.
It was knocked down to a misdemeanor.
Again, that's not a violent offense.
It was on the child, but you know, not like he was saying, it's not, you know, like a violent towards, uh, you know, like he didn't rob a bank or any of those kinds of things.
But he does have a history of showing financial irresponsibility.
But I guess I gotta jump forward and then come back to the traffic stop.
The problem and what I was explaining is how everybody has a fingerprint, okay?
So just like Brian, I was able to research and look into the background of the suspect or the victim, whatever you want to call it, as well as the police chief, okay?
And I was also able to get a few other names on the department.
Okay, that I was able to look them up and I was able to pull up their background.
So why is that important?
Okay, what's the difference?
They weren't involved in this, okay?
And just again, I always pull up and look at other departments adjacent and I try to find names of officers or people that I just take a quick look to make sure I can find them and I always do.
Okay, that I really want to drive that point home.
But in this case, the five officers that they put their names on the air, okay, and showed their photographs, when I did the standard and in-depth background check on all of them using all of my databases and the way I find these guys, it's very important to understand, Dr. Fetzer, that they all come up as ghosts.
Now, I was able to find the names, okay?
There are a few people With a couple of them, especially the one that has the very popular last name of Smith, where there's multiple names.
And it took a little while to run down all of the possibilities in the area of everybody that had that name.
And I could not identify that person by age, and I could not get my photograph.
So what I'm telling you is that person does not exist.
The other four, though, Have a quite not so much common first and last name.
And there were much easier and usually there was either nobody with that name or one or two people in that entire area that had that name.
But the ages were way off and I ran down each one and it was not the person that they're showing on the news.
They didn't have the right background.
They had the different job.
They had a different job history.
They were a completely different person, lived in a different town.
But I checked all the areas around there.
And so what I'm trying to say that's very important is all these five black officers came up as a ghost.
They came up non-existent.
They did not exist.
Just like when we looked up into the George Floyd, none of them came up.
Okay.
Why is it that I can't find all their law enforcement credentials and all the usual things that I can find when I look up a police officer?
I can look up everything.
I can see their job history and these guys came up with nothing.
So soon as I saw that one after another, after another, after another, not coming up, but the chief came up and the victim came up.
I knew there was a major, major problem because you know, they always come up.
Every single time they come up, except, except, when we look into these high-profile false flag events, there's always people that are subject to these events that come up as a ghost.
And only in these high-profile events.
When I look up, or look into the low-profile events that don't make the major media, I look up, I can see all the characters that are involved.
I can see everybody, but not this time again.
So that's what got me on the trail right away of thinking there's a lot of problems.
I would though, sir, like to go into some highlights of the traffic stop as I talked to you, talked about last time and into the video.
So would you like to go over that now or do you want to wait for a later segment?
Sure.
No, this is fine, Danny.
Go ahead.
Okay.
So everybody has to understand on a traffic stop, we've all been stopped by the police at one time or another in our life.
Sometimes more some people more often because their driving habits aren't so good Sometimes people are you know stopped once or twice in a lifetime, right?
When you get stopped by the police, everybody sees the light in the window You hear the siren sometimes and you pull over to the right.
Okay, so you have to stop that is called a primary unit when he makes a traffic stop behind you and You you turn on the lights and you you pull over, you know a motorist You're the primary officer or deputy that's making that traffic stop, okay?
So you're the primary.
When other units show up after you, okay, those are called the secondary units or backup units, okay?
And there's also other nicknames as well that different departments use, but it's primary and then secondary and backup that shows up, okay?
Now, if everybody looks at this video, what was very strange to me Was that when, when they had him stop the primary, there's only one guy in the beginning that has a, um, body camera on.
And they all have body cameras, but this one particular guy was the only one that they released.
Okay.
And that was key.
There was no other body cams going, and I haven't seen any later developments of more body cams out yet.
That doesn't mean that may, might not try to release some, but I just haven't seen them.
There's one.
And he's driving in his vehicle and he's heading to the scene talking on the radio.
So it's right, his body camera's running while he's actually driving to the scene of the traffic stop.
He's not there.
Okay.
So what happens is he pulls up to the scene and the suspect is already stopped.
And this is a key point.
He is not the primary.
In other words, he is not the one that initiated the stop.
He didn't find the suspect.
Okay?
He is secondary or backup.
He's showing up after the fact, after the scene is already going, and the suspect has already been stopped by a primary.
Okay?
When he pulls up, I find it very interesting that he is able to pull up right behind the suspect's vehicle, right where the primary would stop.
So in other words, when an officer stops behind the car, he's obviously right behind the car, on your bumper, He moves a little bit adjacent to the left to give himself a little bit of cover should he have to fall back on the vehicle.
Often cocking his vehicle a little bit with the front end to the left, rear end to the right.
So it's just so you have a little safety in case you have to flee back behind your vehicle.
So that is what's called the primary position to stop or make a traffic stop.
Okay.
It's very common.
Everybody can kind of see that in their head, but what happens is he pulls into that primary spot.
Even though he's late to the game, he's backup, he's secondary, he's not the primary.
And for some reason, the primary is not in the picture.
The primaries are over on the passenger side, or out around the front of the vehicle, but they're not in the primary spot, and there's no vehicle there.
And I find it kind of weird that there's no spot, there's an open spot, right behind the suspect's vehicle on his bumper, Right adjacent to the front door.
So he pulls right in.
So in other words, this scene was going on.
This scene this scene was going on before he got there, and it's almost like everybody was waiting.
OK, like they were waiting for him to show up to continue or go ahead and slip into a primary and make the stop.
And that makes no sense.
There should have already been an officer at the door.
Talking to the suspect, controlling, and in charge, because that's the primary who made that stop.
He would be the one running the traffic stop, and he would be the one talking to the suspect, and the guy we see that pulls up should be secondary or backup, okay?
But he's not.
When he pulls up, he jumps right out of his car, he walks right up to the door, okay?
There's no primary there at all.
And he walks right up to the door and opens the door and starts cussing and yelling at the guy and dragging the guy out of the car, almost like he's primary and he witnessed the suspect just do something reckless or whatever.
And he's not.
He is not.
He was not in the primary scene.
He showed up as a secondary, but he just takes over as the primary and goes and grabs the guy with, and you can't even see the other officers in this situation.
So that's just not how a traffic stop works.
The person that lights up or pulls over the suspect is in charge and handles the suspect.
Okay?
And then when you roll in after, you're often parked behind him or adjacent to him and you come up as backup and you will come up and fit in some way or you will say, hey, I'm here, you know, and you can kind of quickly get motion where they want you to go or what you want to do because you are not the primary.
The primary is running.
The traffic stop, and you're there to back him up.
So that is very, very suspect to me, that situation.
I've watched it over and over again.
I would ask anybody to go ahead and watch the video.
You can see that.
Now, he pulls him right out of the car, and as soon as he gets him out of the car and he gets him on the ground, there's some banter going on about, you know, the suspect says the usual, I ain't done nothing.
Why am I getting out of the car?
Why are you doing this?
Well, they've decided that they're going to at least take him into custody and cuff him, okay?
I haven't heard the words, you're under arrest, okay?
But I heard, you know, they told him to lay on the ground, put your hands behind your back.
Well, he doesn't want to do that.
He's fighting.
And he's twisting to the left, looking up at the guy with the body camera, and he keeps asking him why and negotiating with him, like, why am I doing this?
Why?
Why do I have to do this?
Well, right there at that point, if they were going to cuff him and there's five guys there, they would have just Kept the force on him and they would have just initiated and put the handcuffs on him.
But they kind of used force to get him out of the car.
They backed off with the force and they stopped their efforts for a few seconds to put the handcuffs.
Now, once you start that effort, you're going to stay on the suspect 100% with help till you get those cuffs on.
You want to control the suspect.
You want to get him cuffed so he can't reach into his pockets.
He can't cause any problems.
And then you're going to do your talking, then you're going to do your bantering.
But I found it kind of strange that he didn't have any help to put the cuffs on.
There should have been a bunch of guys right on the guy when they pull him out of the car.
As a matter of fact, usually that's timed, and the primary will be in charge.
He will tell everybody, I'm going to pull the suspect out of the car.
Let's be ready.
And they all get ready, and they're all going to have a role on what they're going to do to control that suspect as they pull him out of the car.
None of that happened in this case.
He pulled him out of the car.
They weren't helping him at first cuff the guy.
They weren't muscling him, trying to hold arms and legs and hold him to the ground.
It was just this one guy with a body camera.
And of course, the man did not comply.
In the very next section, he hits him with a dose of pepper spray at almost point-blank range.
Okay, within, I'd say within about eight inches.
He even does like what I call the hairspray method, where not only does he hit him straight in the face, but he kind of moves, rotates his hand in a clockwise motion, and sprays him directly in the face.
I mean a full 100% blast of pepper spray.
Now I'd like to point out that the pepper spray that police use is extremely hot.
Okay, the jovials are very hot on that, and immediately when you get hit anywhere in the face with pepper spray, And I would like to tell the audience, if you've never been hit with pepper spray, it's extremely, extremely painful.
As a matter of fact, if you even put some on the tip of your pinky or one of your fingers, and rub it just under your eye, okay?
Your eye will immediately tear and slam shut.
Okay?
Immediately.
And I remember in training, when they did that, they wiped a little on her eyes, and immediately you go to tear and you can't see.
Your eye closes down.
Just from the fumes of the pepper spray.
It is so strong.
And he took it right in the face, both eyes right up the nostril, okay, with a really long blast of pepper spray.
This stuff is so powerful that it will immediately slam the eyes shut.
The burning is such an intense burning Uh, sensation that immediately you will start howling in pain, but the eyes will slam shut.
And often it's hard for the suspect to breathe because the fumes will go up the nose, burn the lungs.
It gets into your esophagus and it causes profuse coughing.
And a lot of times somebody can't even talk when they get hit with pepper spray at that range because it's such an intense burning.
It basically shuts down a person's willing to fight and you cannot see.
Well, after he gets hit with this direct pepper spray blast, there's still just a little banter.
He's yelling, and then he does this little worm move.
I don't know how to, uh, how to really say it, but he's kind of, he's kind of, uh, he won't lay in his back.
He doesn't want to lay in his back.
He's fighting.
He twists, stands up.
Okay.
So he stands on his feet after this hit with pepper spray, even when the officer is holding him.
So somehow he overpowers this one guy.
There's four other officers there, but somehow the other four aren't standing there, and they're not trying to help control the suspect.
That's not how it's going to work in real life.
In real life, when you're getting ready to pull a guy out of the vehicle, again, I might be repeating myself, you have the other guys on standby right there.
Each has a role that they're going to play to control that suspect.
And when that suspect gets on his feet, he takes off and running.
When you look in the video, there's no officers there.
There's no officers.
Where's the other four guys that were there ready to help get the suspect pulled out of the car and cuffed?
Where's primary?
Where are the other guys?
They're not standing there in that shot at that moment.
And the suspect takes off running down the street.
He runs in between two cars along the curb.
And this officer that's wearing the body camera, that tried to put the cuffs on him, is chasing him down the street.
And the camera's going left and right as he's running, but you can see glimpses of the suspect take off down the street, and he can see perfectly clear.
He's seen, he can see, obviously he's seen, he didn't run into a car, he didn't trip over the curb, his eyes are obviously working fine, and he takes off and runs out of sight, as the officer's pretending to call on his radio for help.
And that is the end of the scene.
So I'd like everybody to understand in their mind, how is it that the suspect was hit with this direct blast of pepper spray, and he was able to see and run down the street, and how was he able to evade handcuffing and the arrest of five guys that would have been on top of him the second that they pulled him out of the car?
Where were they?
What were they doing at that time that there was only one guy trying to affect the arrest at that moment and get the handcuffs to control the suspect?
That was an extremely poor situation, sir.
That's not how it goes.
I've never seen anything like that.
And there was a complete violation of any kind of police procedure inside of pulling the suspect out of the car.
So those are very, very important keys.
And I think I'll leave it at that on the traffic stop.
And then there's more to talk about as we move on.
But that's not how it works, sir.
That's just not how it works.
I don't know if you have any additional questions you want to ask about that.
Well, Danny, I find all that extremely persuasive.
I'm interested in Brian's take.
Brian, how do you assess Danny's critique of this as being in some fashion a bogus stop?
Your thoughts?
Well, I agree in a large sense.
I'm just going to point out that the officer who deployed the pepper spray actually had the can facing the wrong direction and pepper sprayed himself.
And he also got part of another officer, which is why those two officers remained at the cars at the first scene.
You can hear him say, I shot myself in the face and watch him get the water out of the car and try to wash his face while the other officers go after Nichols on foot.
So I'm not sure if he took the full blast.
I don't see how Nichols could have escaped those officers in that scenario unless that pepper spray was just poorly deployed and managed to pepper spray all the cops and not him.
He was found A half mile away, and I think it's something like, you know, between 10 and 30 minutes.
You gotta remember that Nichols is just wearing a sweatshirt and it's very cold.
It's so cold out that there's frost on the ground.
So even after the initial adrenaline of having been able to escape these police officers, and that particular part of his escape is just not caught on the body cam.
So I'm not really sure how it went down.
Then they tried to cave him.
They didn't hit him with the prong.
Nichols pulls off his sweatshirt, which had been hit with a, uh, one of the prongs of one of the tasers that was, you know, poorly fired at him.
Um, you know, either it's terrible police work and these guys have it coming, or Nichols out, you know, 29 years old, skinny black guy, Overpowered these cops.
It's highly unlikely that even with a modicum of training, these guys wouldn't have been able to get the cuffs on, but hey, it's an arrest.
It's a relatively brutal arrest and shit happens.
I don't, I don't know how to comment on the police procedure and the arrest.
I don't know if any of my comments are even going to be helpful on it because at the end of the day, you do see Nichols escape.
Well, let me ask Danny if this officer sprayed himself with his pepper spray cannot be very experienced.
or later directly under a camera. - Well, let me ask Danny, if this officer sprayed himself with his pepper spray, he cannot be very experienced.
I mean, that certainly suggests this might be a fake cop, Danny.
- The thing is, is I gotta tell you, I didn't notice him spraying it.
I saw the pepper spray or what appeared to be whatever the mist was hit the when I zoomed in to hit the suspect's face.
As far as pepper spraying yourself, it's very on the on the nozzle when you use pepper spray.
It's very obvious what direction the pepper spray is going to use and how you're going to deploy it.
You actually hold it in the fist of your hand like you would hold a firearm and you just you deploy the spray with your thumb and it goes in one direction and it's very clear to pepper spray yourself you'd have to be very inexperienced and you've never deployed and again when you get trained with pepper spray you shoot at multiple targets you practice pulling your spray out you practice deploying the spray in different methods
whether you know a lot of times you get trained into hiding the pepper spray where the suspect doesn't even see it in your hand and you'll distract him with one hand and hit him with the pepper spray with the other There's many different ways and we won't spend a lot of time on that but there's different ways to deploy pepper spray.
So what I'd like to do is I'd like to move forward to the camera shot where they actually caught him where the fight takes place.
And where they eventually get him in handcuffs now.
Mitchell, can you kill the break?
Can you kill the break?
I'm sorry, we're stuck with it.
Alright, let him play.
Let him play.
It's killed, Jim.
Oh, you got it.
Good, Mitchell.
Good.
Danny.
Continue, Danny.
Okay, so the body camera shuts off, so it was edited and it shuts down at that point.
The next scene that we see is this obscure street corner that's lit by like a street light a little bit with this camera that happens to be perfectly positioned on this street corner.
And as I said before, as this event unfolds and they're fighting on the ground, I did not see, myself personally, I did not see the suspect come into the shot.
I saw Uh, you know, he was out there on the corner and they were fighting.
And I saw the camera actually pan to the right a little bit.
Kind of do a quick little focus.
Almost like it was on a tripod, or somebody was, you know, operating it.
And I find it very strange that this kid happens to get stopped a second time, and the fight breaks out right underneath this camera.
Now, I'm thinking, is the entire street lined up every so many feet with these cameras?
I don't think so.
But what are the odds, if you look at it, that this happened to go down right underneath that obscure camera at that moment?
If it would have happened 100 feet in either direction, we wouldn't have been able to catch it with this camera.
Talk about luck that this happened right underneath that camera.
You know what, I don't believe in that.
I think that was highly suspect that that camera happened to be in that street corner at that moment.
And that is highly suspect for multiple reasons, but we'll go into the fight.
So what we do see is we see a bunch of officers on top of the guy.
They find him on the street corner and they're cuffing him.
But the problem is they're punching him and they're kicking him like a gang member would beat up on a suspect.
They're not using any controlled moves like a trained police officer would use.
I didn't see any handholds.
I didn't see any holding around the neck.
No control, no moves on the control of his hands or his arms or his legs.
What I saw is a black officer wailing away gangbanger style on another person is what I saw.
And even after he was cuffed, they stood him up on his feet.
Okay, and this is critical.
They stood him up on his feet.
And when they stood him up, one officer had a hold of him with his arm through his arms above the handcuffs.
And the other black officer, as hard as he could, looked like he was punching the suspect right in the face.
Okay?
And he hit him several times, and you can, I was really, paused this, slowed it down, to see if those were real blows, and the suspect's face does move, like he's getting hit, but not, it doesn't move to the point to where I would think it would move, If a 220 or 230 pound black man that was in that good of shape like that was punching you directly in the face.
I mean, this kid is tough.
He's standing on his feet and he takes at least five to six direct blows right to the face with a closed fist, right to the side of the jaw, to the face.
And he's still standing.
He doesn't even buckle.
He, he only weighs 145 pounds and I'm like, Man, and this cop, he knows that he's cuffed.
Everybody on that scene knows he's cuffed.
And they all know, every time that fist comes towards that suspect, that's just one longer time they're gonna get in jail, because they know they're all in violation.
Everybody knows, sir.
Everybody knows that you cannot strike a suspect after he's cuffed.
It's kind of like hitting some- it's more serious Then hitting somebody after the bell in a boxing match.
After the bell goes off, you simply don't walk over to the corner and break a chair over your opponent's head.
Okay?
Everybody knows you can't do that.
You go to your corner.
Once the suspect is cuffed, it is over.
There is no more striking the suspect.
There's a few different circumstances where that can be allowed, in a minimal, to control the suspect.
And that is if the suspect is kicking violently and could strike somebody or strike an officer if he's biting spitting anything like that out of control still just turns into a wild animal okay you can use reasonable force to put leg irons on him throw a spit bag over his head if you need to whatever you need to do but you can't continue to beat or strike a a suspect
full force, like you're trying to knock him out or debilitate him when he's cuffed.
That's completely illegal.
The Supreme Court has ruled on that multiple times.
That is a blatant violation, sir.
It is a blatant felony to do so.
And that officer knew before he threw that punch, when he was cuffed, he knew that he was going way over the line.
He knew that he would be fired immediately if he seen that.
No more paycheck, no more pension, nothing but jail with each one of those And he continued to do it.
There's another officer after he falls on the ground that kicks him gangbanger style.
And he knows, he knows that that is a, he might as well gotten his car and ran the suspect over, pulled out his firearm and took a shot and handcuffed.
I mean, it was a blatant, gross violation.
That you would do that.
And he kept kicking, and the other gentleman kept punching after he was cuffed.
He buckled and fell on the ground with another kick, and I couldn't believe it.
And what I don't understand, sir, is those officers know that everybody in that scene has a body camera.
How would any of those officers not trust that one of many body cameras in that scene were gonna pick them up, and they would be fired and go to jail later on for doing this?
Were they all working together and they just knew that the body cameras weren't working?
Was it such a tight group that they knew that nobody would think on anybody?
I mean, can you imagine if you were an officer standing there and you weren't doing the striking and you weren't doing the hitting?
In real life, one of those officers would be in such fear for his future, him going to jail, him being sued, that he would run over there and protect the suspect and say, knock it off, get away, knock it off, leave that he would run over there and protect the suspect and say, He would try to protect the suspect.
Because he would also be responsible for not doing anything to stop such a violent attack after the suspect was cuffed in an interview.
Why did you stand there and allow that to continue?
He can already hear that question in his head, but yet we have other officers there that were just observing and not doing anything to try and stop this.
It was just unbelievable, gross violation, It would never happen like that.
These guys acted like complete gangbangers with no police training.
The way they were beating this guy up, kicking him, violently punching him after he cuffed.
It was one of the most grossest violations I've ever seen.
I've seen cops go overboard before the suspect is being cuffed, while they're trying to control him and get into cuffs.
That's one thing.
But after he's cuffed, Okay, he's in custody, beating up, punching, striking, trying to hurt the suspect, trying to, you know, knock him out, trying to inflict bodily harm after he's cuffed, is a gross violation of civil rights.
It's well known before you hit the street, you ever get trained, that if anything ever happened like that, you would get in severe trouble.
You would be punished.
You would be fired.
You would go to prison.
That's all explained to you in the police academy before you even get into your training and you get out on the street.
But yet all five of these guys threw all police training out the window and participated in this gang-style beating after he was cuffed.
And then they leaned them up against the car door and they didn't even try to render aid.
And we can move into that!
After an officer has to use physical force to take a suspect into custody, whether he hits him with a taser, whether he gets him with a pepper spray, whether he has to inflict damage on him by punching him or using his baton on him.
He then has to move into a role after he's cuffed of asking the suspect, are you OK?
And has to start rendering aid.
And I know that's really strange to go from the violent confronter to all of a sudden going to the paramedic.
But that's really how it works.
Once those cuffs are on, you have to flip rolls and go right into any kind of injuries that the suspect has.
You would go to your car immediately and grab your med bag.
You'd come back and look at the suspect.
You would call for an ambulance right away to attend.
So the ambulance was on rolling, coming on the scene, and you would attend to any damage.
You would give him some water and try to rinse out his eyes to get the pepper spray out of his eyes.
You would, you know, if he had any cuts, Anything immediate that needed to be attending you would attend to it.
Okay, but what they do is they just leave them beat up.
After they brutally beat him after he's come up against the car door unattended.
And you can see him leaning against the car door, kind of moving his feet around and moving his head left and right, and nobody's attending to him.
Matter of fact, one of the officers is walking around him like a shark, kind of kicking his leg, walking around in a circle, and they just leave the guy there.
Another complete gross violation of police procedure.
They're not even attending or trying to attend.
To the suspect that was just injured.
So I'm just trying to say, sir, this was just procedure after procedure after procedure, police procedure, that was grossly violated all the way through this.
And I'll tell you what, it just would not happen like this with trained police officers.
And this, to me, lines up with the fact that when I looked into the background of these five officers, I could not find them.
And then I put it together.
I don't even think they're really cops.
I think they used these five guys to pull off this video.
I think it's five guys that they got in there.
They said, you pretend to do this, you pretend to do this, because they certainly weren't acting like trained police officers.
They violated everything in the book that they possibly could have, sir.
That's just fascinating, Danny.
Just fascinating from A to Z. Brian, your thoughts?
Well, I agree.
I'm not going to argue the fact that they didn't act like regular street police officers, at least not any that I've ever seen, but certainly... I mean, even if you go through the Citizen Police course, you know the basics of how an arrest like this should take place.
I find gross violations everywhere in the video, and I think we need to figure out who these guys are.
Just because I can find that somebody exists and has an address and has a phone number doesn't necessarily mean they are who they claim to be, and so I'm sure that there's going to be a number of open records requests that go out.
There is a website that aggregates all of these open records requests by the media, and so I'm going to go through them and see if I can find anything interesting.
I've been through You know, your typical garbage on CNN and New York Times and Wikipedia and, you know, like I said, it appears that they're real people.
Whether or not they're part of this police force or not, just dressed up, I don't know.
I can tell you that it appeared to be unmarked cars, but they were properly equipped with the proper lights and sirens.
Uh, they appeared to have the proper gear on their bodies, which wouldn't be terribly difficult.
Um, you know, I guess I'm just saying, I don't know what to think if these guys, if it was totally staged.
If it was staged, they did deliver a horrific scene.
We got a, we got a caller on the line, Paul from California.
Paul, join the conversation.
Yeah, very interesting discussion.
I will say that, once again, Danny Serris has engaged an extremely accurate overkill, in my opinion, because I don't really think we need much, although, of course, it's interesting to talk about.
I don't think we really need much after we find out that these people don't have the internet presence that they should, that they're not in the databases.
It's like, okay, that's it, we're done.
I mean, Miles Mathis has made so many of his papers on so many of these fake shootings, and he gets into a lot of other things as well, but the centerpiece is, they don't have the internet presence.
The named victims and the named shooters, or in this case, the named police officers, don't have the accurate internet data presence that they should.
And that doesn't make any sense at all, unless the whole thing is fake, false, phony, fraud.
Which of course brings to the larger point is what kind of world are we living in now, and we know what kind of world it is, where we can't count on the fact that anything that we see is true.
Anything that we're presented with is accurate.
And it's likely it's going to be false.
And, you know, I'm just reminded of one of the better papers that he did on the Las Vegas shooting hoax, where He just took apart these names and he said, look, what kind of name is this?
I mean, the names are totally made up.
He says, who has a name like this or who has a name like that?
And sure enough, as I read these different names, I thought, yeah, I don't remember seeing spellings like that of first names or last names.
It's just ridiculous.
And as Mathis pointed out in one of his early writings, he said, if you look up me, in other words, if you look up Miles Mathis on the Internet, you will find all my details are accurate down to where I went to elementary school.
And as Danny has made the point so well, that's the world that we live in now, is that they have all the information.
And of course, with our cell phones, they know where we are.
And with our cards, when we swipe somewhere, they know what we buy and where we're buying it.
So the idea that you could do a search in more than one database and not find these people, or you find maybe their name, but the age or the location or the details don't match, That's it.
That's all you need to know.
The whole thing's fake.
Extremely interesting.
Brian, exactly what did you find?
Did you find something on all five of the cops?
Just expand on what you did find.
Well, I have over a hundred matches out of Justin Smith.
He was the hard one.
So I had to finally break down and find an actual year of birth in order to get to it.
He's a little bit more obscure because there's a lot of people with that common name.
I know Tiberius Bean.
I know where he lives.
Demetrius Hayes.
Right, right.
Our audio is a little mixed.
I'm not hearing every word.
Are you telling me you found that these people were people, not that they were cops, but that they existed and had addresses?
Is that what you're telling us?
Yes, I am.
But I'll also say this about what Paul just said.
He's right.
There's a lot in the name.
And I want you to think about the name Tyre-Nickel.
Tyre-Nickel.
Tyre-N As a private eye, my stuff is based on people trying to apply for credit or utility bills, you know, basic type of stuff where the headers end up getting sent to my sources, so I'm able to find stuff that normal people won't.
And let me point out one other thing that's really common among cops, and that is a really thick book called Extreme Privacy.
And now, what this book is, it's written by a guy by the name of Michael Bazell, and he specializes in Helping people disappear.
Now, I have gone through the procedures to make people disappear, and I can guarantee you that under the right circumstances, given enough time and money, I can make somebody disappear as well.
But I can't do it within two weeks.
I need months to get it taken care of.
So, it could be true on both sides.
Again, at the end of the day, my position is someone got beat up In that video.
The fact that they chose somebody by the name of Tired Mickey does concern me.
Tyree.
And Danny, exactly, Tyree, whatever.
Danny is exactly correct.
None of the proper procedures would have been followed, and I can guarantee you that my police friends would recognize this just as well as Danny recognized it.
The question is, why?
What did they observe leading up to the event that caused it to happen?
And if nothing, and it was staged, because they, again, they knew the body cam, they knew it was all there, and it's my understanding that these people acted as a unit.
So, I just think it's a little early to make conclusions about it, but I can tell you that my opinion is a lot of this stuff smells really bad.
Really, really bad on a lot of different levels.
Just to address the one thing you just said, I would ask, OK, to make a statement, it's a little early.
I don't even know what that means or why you say it.
It's a little early to make.
See, here's the deal.
Jim knows this as well, and all the listeners know this.
Everything that they show us, pretty much, you can count on, is fake, a fraud.
It's designed to elicit emotions.
So whether all these cops were black and the victim is black, that's not really the point anymore.
They're trying to elicit the emotions, they're trying to play with us, and they're successful at doing that.
I mean, when you look at how many people are talking about this, and it's featured all over social media, everybody is taking it as real.
I don't ever take any of these things as real.
You know, not until for sure I know it is.
And the fact of the matter is, today, you can You can you can be pretty much assured that almost everything you see is either incomplete truth or not truth at all.
And I think Danny has made that pretty clear.
And I would totally agree with him, by the way.
If you can get one or two cops that know each other well, you know, something like this could could happen.
But when you have five cops on scene, I think Danny could verify this.
Anytime you get five people or more to five guys, there's always going to be one guy go away.
Wait a minute.
Knock this off.
Stop this.
I mean, there's going to be a guy like myself or a guy like Danny just going to step in and go, hey, knock this crap off.
But the fact that they all were getting in on it and participating and that they all let it happen, that to me just says it's staged.
That's just my opinion.
Do you think then that there wasn't a real, that he wasn't really, didn't have the pulp beat out of him and did not die?
Is that also your conclusion?
Well, it's kind of like George Floyd, Jim, right?
What did your research show on him?
I mean, did George Floyd really die?
Was George Floyd really the George Floyd we were presented with?
So can you pay a guy?
Can you find some black guy and give him like $10,000 or $25,000 and say, OK, we're going to beat your ass.
We're going to give you $30,000.
You know, you're going to find no guys all day long.
Sure.
Yeah, go back to Danny.
Yeah, Danny, Danny.
I would like to point out what Paul said does make, you know, it's 100% true.
They could find anybody to play this part.
And, uh, the thing, the thing is, sir, uh, just to reiterate what Brian was saying, there are people in those counties in that area with those five black officers' names.
So I want to be clear about that.
There are.
Okay.
It wasn't like there was nobody.
There was one, I believe that only there was one guy.
But the other two had two or more possibilities of people with that name.
Okay?
Two or more.
But when I ran those names down and positively ID'd each person that actually says the records say live in there and have that name, I was able to positively ID that those people were not those black officers.
I want to be clear about that.
I was able to positively ID through photograph and other records that it was not that person.
So those names do exist.
If you're just doing a name search, you have to look into the background of each person to identify actually who.
I'll give you an example.
There's probably more than one Jim Fetzer in the United States.
I've never done a search on that, but there probably is.
So you'd have to look into the background of each one to see which one of those people you were looking for.
Do you see what I'm saying?
You'd have to look at college, job, age, other things to identify, oh, this is the one I'm looking for.
And this is his family.
And here's the name of his family.
So there's, there's multiple ways of doing that.
Okay.
So I ran down each and every person with that name.
Okay.
I just didn't find the name and go, Oh, there's the name.
There it is.
Okay.
Yeah.
I found the name.
What I'm saying was I could not find these five black officers.
And anytime I look into the background of a police officer, they always have college.
And their law enforcement credential.
I find it each and every time without fail.
Just like when I looked up the Chief, I found the Chief, the Chief's law enforcement credential, and everything about the Chief, including her work history, I was able to look at.
But with these five guys, I'm going to reiterate, they came up as a total ghost!
And I couldn't find one shred on any of these guys that match the five guys in the video.
Okay, I want to be very clear about that.
And just to further example that, the Half Moon Bay shooting that I know you talked about, I ran that suspect, and I came up with total ghost on that suspect.
And I found A few people in the state of California with that name.
Okay?
So I did find somebody with that name.
When I ran those names down... Okay?
I ran them all the way down and went into the background.
One of them lived in Palo Alto, California.
And had a job working for a major university.
And the age was wrong.
Okay?
The age was 20 years off.
Of the suspect that was shown on television.
Not even close.
When I ran through all of the records for Half Moon Bay, not one person came up remotely with that first and last name.
Not even close.
But they came up in the city of Palo Alto.
The other two gentlemen that came, actually there were three more names that came up.
Both, all three of those, there were four total.
Three came up.
They were in Southern California.
Six to seven hour drive from Half Moon Bay.
Quite a ways away.
Several hundred miles away.
And one of them was in one particular town in Southern California.
I don't need to say the name.
And the other two were in another town.
And when I ran them down and looked at their age, their work history, and everything about them, I found it was very strange that those three were all the same person.
All the same person, and they all had a job as a CEO of a multinational company.
So I knew for sure it was not this mushroom farmer in Half Moon Bay that they kept telling us on the media that lived for a long time resident of Half Moon Bay.
So in other words, he had a cell phone, you know, an automobile, he had a driver's license, he had all these electronics.
Leashes that would tie him to the area.
He in no way could be associated with this multinational CEO that lived in Southern California or the other younger gentleman that lived in Palo Alto, California that worked for a prestigious university.
I could see his degree, his job, his job history, his car, everything about him.
So I knew, sir, that we were dealing with a ghost at that point.
Yeah, go ahead, Paul.
Go ahead, Paul.
So I think it's important to make the simple point that Danny is making in his usual very thorough and overkill fashion, okay, is that all these individuals that you, okay, for example, you named, you know, more than one Jim Fetzer, just like, you know, probably more than one Danny Sears, of course, just like there's more than one, you know, Ford F-150 truck, okay?
But what is, here's the thing.
They're all going to be accurate based upon who and what it is you're talking about.
So in other words, when you look up Jim Fetzer, even if there's more than one, you will find the one that matches.
The one in Madison, Wisconsin that's a retired professor, and so on and so on.
I mean, in other words, these databases are accurate.
I've had background checks done on me for jobs I've had, and I'm the one that they're looking at, okay?
I'm the one that went to, you know, San Jose City College and You know, that I worked here, and I worked there, and my age, and my social security number.
So, these people, when, you know, there's confusion about it, or it's the wrong location, or the year is a 20 years difference, that's all you need to know.
Okay?
It's not an... These databases are accurate.
They know exactly... Sir, I have one more point.
I have one more point I want to make.
This is critical, and Brian might or might not have noticed this, and this is on the Half Moon Bay.
When the guy decided to turn himself in, the supposed shooter on the TV decided to turn himself in, this is the media telling us a story, on the off chance he decided to drive himself to a very small sheriff's deputy substation in the Half Moon Bay area, which is located in the very small strip mall.
It's a little office with a couple of desks in it, this substation.
And he decided to go there and turn himself in, okay?
But here's what's key.
When he turned himself in, okay, he pulls into the parking lot, and he would walk into the substation and say, hey guys, you're looking for me, I did a bad thing, I'm sorry, put the cuffs on me here, I'm here to turn myself in.
But that's not what happened, okay?
When he turned himself in, we see four or five police officers, a few of them in uniform, a few of them in plainclothes, and we see them pull him down to the ground with their weapons drawn,
and pulling down in the parking lot of this little tiny substation strip mall where there's other businesses but there happened to be two full-blown news crews in the parking lot with their cameras rolling and cueing these guys to go ahead and make the arrest catching this all on video now think about this Just an amazing coincidence.
Just an amazing coincidence.
One of the most fascinating conversations we've ever had on the show.