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Edward Dowd on his new book, "Cause Unknown" - Jan. 07, 2023
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Edward Dowd, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
How is the Christmas season treating you?
It's fine.
It's 80 degrees on Maui.
It's snow on the mainland.
So we're doing just fine here.
You're in a t-shirt.
It doesn't look very cold.
No, it's winter here.
It gets a little chilly at night and I have to put on a sweatshirt.
What is the winter weather like on average in Hawaii?
I've never actually looked it up.
It's a little more dry, and it gets into the 60s at night, but it's usually 80 during the day.
That's it, basically.
It sounds like a pleasure.
Yeah, it's not bad.
That's an understatement.
It's not bad.
It's probably paradise.
Yeah.
You know, a friend of mine from the East Coast visited, and he said basically, You guys have it good here.
I go, yes we do.
And then he said, you look like you're in good shape.
I go, you have no excuse not to be in good shape because the weather's the same every day.
So you have to get outside every day.
I mean, it's hard not to be in good shape on Maui.
It probably is a stereotypical question, but do you surf?
I don't surf, but I hike a lot.
I want to learn how to surf eventually.
But, you know, all my friends surf and it's just not my thing for some reason.
The water on your side of the world though is quite warm, isn't it?
It's bathwater.
It's like bathwater, yeah.
And you don't have the shark problem that we have on our coastline.
We have great white sharks.
We have tigers and there's been a couple...
serious shark attacks the last couple months.
It happened also in 2014.
There were about six in one year.
So every now and then we get some tigers that get hungry and come in.
But it's not like South Africa or Australia or any of these other places.
Speaking of predators coming in, there's a segue there that we can...
You have just released a book, Cause Unknown...
I don't have my copy yet, it is on its way, so you're gonna have to help me a little bit, because I haven't read it.
What is it about?
Yeah, it's called Cause Unknown, The Epidemic of Sudden Death in 2021 and 2022.
And, you know, this book was pitched to me by Gavin DeBecker, who wrote my afterword, and Bobby Kennedy wrote the foreword.
And it's Skyhorse Publishing and Tony Lyons, who's released a lot of books centering around the reality of the world, everything COVID.
And bottom line is this.
It's a book that the Redmeat Echo Chamber crowd will love, because it's all the data that I've been talking about put into a book.
It's also good for the family members that don't think you're right and that you're crazy.
I come at it from a Wall Street perspective, much like I would a stock thesis.
I'm a trend follower and I observe trends.
My job on Wall Street was to get on trends early, before the rest of the crowd.
The book just basically documents what's been happening, and it starts off with sudden athletic deaths, which is what got me interested in the topic in the first place in 2021, early on.
With sudden athletic deaths, anecdotes of injuries and people dying, you know, uncles mysteriously dying, friends that seemed healthy, and that kind of thing.
You know, first, we start with the athletes, and we try to establish for the new, someone who doesn't really believe what we believe, first, is it true?
Has this occurred historically before, you know, in the world?
Have athletes just all of a sudden dropped dead on the field?
And the answer is yes, but it was super rare.
And there was a study, which I talk about in the book, called the Lausanne Study.
It spanned 38 years and documented 1,100 Sudden athletic deaths around the globe on the field under age 35.
So that's about 29 a year, okay?
29 a year.
We've been lucky since 2021 and the introduction of the biological inoculations to have a month with just 29 sudden athletic deaths.
We're getting upwards some months of 90, 110, 80.
In my book alone we document, you know, we have stories in the front of the book, pictures with QR codes where you can link to the local news story, and then we have a compendium in the back.
We get about 550 of these deaths, just 550, and that's a sampling.
It's not even all of them.
550 deaths starting, all of them have been well researched and documented and they're all, you know, they're all made sure that they're correctly in 2021 or 2022.
We don't have any mistakes like in that documentary, Died Suddenly, where we're showing people who died before the vaccine.
So we document that and Steve Kirsch, I was on an interview with him, he talked about that, talked about the book.
And he did the math, and that's just those 550 is a 12-fold increase over the normal average of 20-90 a year since 2021.
And that's not all of them.
So just on that alone, something has happened in 21 and 22.
Now, I obviously think it's the vaccines.
And then I go on in the book to prove it with other data, the life insurance data, which shows that the group life policyholders, which is a subset of the US population, they tend to work for Fortune 500 and mid-sized companies.
In 2021, the ages 25 through 64 died at a 40% excess mortality.
This is a group that's generally healthier than the rest of the U.S. population.
This is a group, and these numbers are the Society of Actuaries.
These are not my numbers.
These are the people who do this for a living.
And they did a study, many studies that show that this population is much healthier than the general U.S. population, dies at about 30 to 40 percent, the mortality rate of the general population in any given year.
Well, in 2021, they were 40.
The general U.S. population was 32.
So that relationship flipped mysteriously in 2021.
And, you know, from 2020 to 2021, I've documented quite extensively that there was a mixture from old people who died in 2020 from COVID excessively due to, you know, getting COVID and being old and having comorbidities.
And they died.
Well, in 2021, Nelson healthy young people started dropping like flies all over the place.
And that continues into 2022.
And in the book, I have some colleagues that I'm starting a hedge fund with that contributed to the book with some of their research.
We've got the UK data, we've got the European data, we've got Australia we just did, and we're going to drop Canada into our website soon.
It's the same story everywhere.
Mysteriously, younger working age folks started seeing excessive death in 2021 and 2022 as opposed to 2020.
In my book, I say, look, I'm an analyst.
I have a thesis.
It's the vaccines.
I explain away all the, you know, what the naysayers typically come at me with.
It's suicides, drug overdoses, and cancer screening treatments.
I dismiss all that.
And climate change.
Climate change.
And I dismiss all that.
And yeah, and look, the reader can draw their own conclusions, but I ask at the end of the book, I say, look, And the book is a very easy read.
It's not terribly long.
It's well documented.
There's a lot of stuff in the appendix, in the compendiums and appendices.
So you can read this book, one of your family members could read this book in like three hours.
And it's kind of tragic, 'cause when you see the human faces of all the dead young people, it does affect people emotionally because that's one of the things that I think gets lost when I do my talks on the data.
It's big metadata and numbers in a spreadsheet.
We try to make a personal and say hey it's not normal for young folks to drop dead in the prime of their life and You know the book the book ends with this, you know, you don't have to believe what I say as the cause of this but what it what I what is true is it's happening and But the health authorities, the global governments, and the mainstream media don't want you to know this.
So, you have to ask yourself why.
I conclude it's a cover-up of a crime.
And at this point, it's malfeasance.
But at the very least, if you think I'm crazy, it's true.
And you can't deny it's true.
So you have to ask yourself, what's going on?
And why are younger, especially employed, only the employed seem to be getting affected because, you know, my thesis is mandates and max vaccinations.
Why are the employed young folks dropping dead, but those not in the labor force doing much better?
And we can prove that with the numbers.
You know, the not-in-the-labor-force folks are the ones who decided to get fired and quit their jobs and refuse the vaccine.
Their health is much higher than the general population and being employed.
So it speaks volumes.
We're going to be doing some research on the not-in-the-labor-force, and they seem to have the best health amongst us right now.
So, this data is US-based, essentially, at the moment?
Well, we've got US-based, we've got Society of Actuaries, US Bureau of Labor Statistics, then we do a deep dive on the UK, we've got UK ONS data, then we have Eurostat data, we talk about Denmark.
Denmark's a disaster, Denmark's excess mortality in every age cohort Every year since 2020.
So 2021 excess mortality for the whole nation is above 2020.
2022 is above 2021.
And mysteriously as I was writing the book, and I put this in the book, literally as I was going through the Denmark data, Denmark said, you know, We're going to ban the vaccine for under 50 because it's better for you to get COVID than the vaccine, which is a, you know, kind of double speak for the vaccine might kill you worse.
It's more of a chance of killing you than COVID.
So Denmark has suspended the vaccination program because it was such a disaster for them because they're one of the most highly vaccinated countries.
So, you know, this is what's going on and you can live in the world of reality.
which you and I live in, or you can be in denial and continue to get boosted and jabbed.
But this is for me, I'm a Wall Street guy.
And at this point, the evidence suggests there's a trade, right?
So the trade is you're long the vaccine and you keep getting boosters or you're short the vaccine, meaning you never got it or you stop taking it.
And it's a financial analogy.
Your thesis has been blown out of the water.
The thing not only does it not work, so that you were told it was 100% effective against getting COVID and transmitting it.
That's been proven to be completely untrue.
Now you're hanging on to the lie that, you know, if you get COVID, it would be much worse if you didn't have it, which there's no proof for.
So it's much like a stock where fraud is starting to get into the news cycle.
And your ego is involved.
You're holding on to your stock as it goes to zero.
Well, the difference is don't let your ego get in the way of what is, you know, at this point, conclusive evidence that not only is it not work, it's likely with every booster to potentially kill you and or disable you.
So you're on the wrong side of the trade.
And, you know, I'm at the point now where if I ever get into a debate and people started coming at me with stuff and say, look, you do you.
We're starting a hedge fund.
Investors are interested in us because we see the world the way it should be.
And money's coming our way.
So, you know, at some point, you have to ask yourself, do you want to be smart money or dumb money?
That's a Wall Street term.
And in this case, it's, you know, dumb.
You want to hang on dumb medical information or smart medical information?
And that's the convincing.
We're trying to convince people, hey, even though the governments have admitted this and the health authorities haven't, It's true, and stop being on the wrong side of the trade.
That's kind of what we're trying to do.
And the mortality data tightly overlaps with the vaccination data.
Oh yeah, but they'll tell you that correlation is not causation, which at some point, it doesn't really matter anymore.
I mean, what's interesting is the correlations with the excess mortality in vaccines is not as tight as it is with disabilities.
The disability correlations are 0.94.
So -- and that's -- we suspect that's because the numbers are much larger with the disabilities.
They're about 6 to 10X, the excess deaths.
So the larger the data set, the more of a correlation there is.
There's a lot of noise with the death numbers that don't suggest 100% correlation, but it's -- the pieces of the puzzle are that young are dying.
The young folks are dying, which they weren't doing before.
So the correlations really sync up with the disabilities, just due to the large numbers and less noise.
So at this point, it's a slam dunk.
It's done.
It's over.
And people have eyes.
And it's at this point, I don't even care what people's, you know, they can name call me, they can ban me.
I'm going to raise capital and form a hedge fund to bet on the reality of the world as I see it, which is not good because the damage has been done.
The economic follow-up from this is going to last for years, years.
There's going to be labor shortages, a slow disintegration of goods and services because there just won't be enough people.
How bad is the prognosis?
what we used to know and love is, you know, delivery services and, you know, getting your car fixed and not, you know, on a timely fashion.
Everything's going to be, everything's going to slow down.
Everything's going to get harder and harder to do.
How bad is the prognosis?
Well, see, this is where I want to be wrong.
Okay, let me start off with what I'm about to tell you.
Let's hope I'm wrong.
I'll just use the U.S. as an example.
So in 2020, there was about 29 to 30 million disabled Americans, you know, go up and down, up and down.
It was kind of like, like this, right?
Kind of going sideways, up and down, up and down.
Then in February through May of 2021, it took off.
And the year over year growth rate exploded.
So we went from 29 to 30 to 33.2 million as of September.
So that's an increase of three plus million, right?
In an 18-month period.
It's come down a little bit in November and October, but the trend is still up.
If the trend is broken, I'll let you know.
That's where I would be wrong, but the trend is still holding up and to the right.
And let's do the math on this.
So we dug into the numbers.
And the disability rate for the general population went up 11%.
Their disability rate increased 11%.
The disability rate for the employed went up 26%.
For women, it was 36.
And for men, it was 19.
So women are getting getting clobbered here.
Though, when we dig into the numbers, that's about 1.2 million.
And we think we're probably about 1.2 million employed people got disabled can't work anymore.
The employed population in the U.S.
is about 9,800 million.
So, 1.2 million is not a small number, okay?
That's a big number.
And until that trend breaks, this continues.
And in terms of excess mortality, there was a big spike in the mandates in Q3 of 2021, third quarter of 2021, August, September, October, when the mandates hit.
In the age cohort, 25 through 44, they saw an 84% spike in excess mortality, and then it's come back down since then, and it's now running as of the second quarter of 2022 at 23%.
This is group life, society of actuaries, just that little population.
I'm hearing from insiders when the third quarter comes out, it'll re-accelerate to 30-35%.
So the prognosis is, even though people are probably not getting boosted and mandates aren't as bad, there may be medium to long-term issues from the vaccine, which is where I would be right.
I hope I'm wrong, but the prognosis is negative from my standpoint.
And obviously at this stage, people must simply reject any of these jabs because we keep being told to get more of them.
Yeah, it's gaslighting of the highest order.
I said in February, March, when I came out with this data that, you know, because I've seen frauds before in corporate America, when you get caught, you don't go, Oh, hey, I'm sorry.
What happens is you continue as it.
And that's in corporate fraud.
Once the fraud starts to unravel, you don't say, hey, I'm sorry.
You call up your big investors and you lie to them and make them hold onto the stock with your lies so you can sell your stock before the stock really plummets.
It's already down.
So these people are doubling down, tripling down, because that's what criminals do.
You gaslight and you won't stop until you're actually stopped.
You know, usually through regulators coming in.
The problem is our regulators are in on it.
So this has to take a group effort.
That's why I wrote the book.
It's about marginal minds.
And the more and more people who reject this, it eventually falls apart under its own weight.
And it'll flip at some point.
But when, I don't know.
But it will flip if enough people refuse en masse.
Or, you know, the worst case scenario is people continue to get jabbed And it's as bad as we think it is, and then there's less of them than there are of us at some point.
And then, you know, we have more of the majority.
So I want to save lives, and this thing doesn't, at the very least, it doesn't work.
So why would you take something that doesn't work, that is experimental, that was rushed?
Don't do it.
Yeah, and we're seeing now that Twitter is releasing quite a lot of interesting data on precisely that.
Yeah, Twitter basically.
So over the weekend, Elon Musk said famously over the weekend, within the last 48 hours, all the conspiracy theories you had about Twitter are true, and then some.
So what is Twitter?
Twitter is an apparatus of the US government's intel agencies.
It was co-opted and it's used to affect public opinion.
And I knew that was coming because I saw what they did with the Arab Spring.
They use social media to overthrow a bunch of countries and cause chaos, Libya being one of them.
And now it's been turned on the US population.
I mean, it's plain as day.
It's now out in the open.
Our mainstream media is now reporting on it.
So those who continue to watch mainstream media are literally at risk of harming themselves, just in many ways.
And if you don't get on independent news sources, you're literally The asymmetric information gap is the greatest I've ever seen.
There are those of us who know what's going on, and those who don't, and those who don't are literally living in la-la land.
And at this point, you know, I want to help them, but if they refuse to listen and think I'm crazy, well, you know, at some point you just gotta let them go, and I call them the unbegotten, because they're not really conscious.
Zombies!
That asymmetric gap that you just referred to, Do you think that's by design or by emergence?
So psychological warfare and military grade PSYOPs are that because they work.
The difference though is, you know, this is so dire and it's going to affect so many people and even some of our loved ones that we have to fight it.
And I think, I think ultimately it'll break because one of the things about PSYOPs is It's to change the hearts and minds of people for an end game end goal.
The problem with what was going on with the vaccines is that it's affecting people's lives and health.
So the more successful the vaccine is, the more undeniable it becomes that you just witnessed a crime.
So at some point it's going to be Absolutely asinine to deny what's going on and not believe your lying eyes.
And I'm hoping that as much as military-grade psyops can work, once the evidence is so overwhelming and people know people that have been killed by it and are disabled, that the spell is finally broken.
It's almost like it's a bridge too far.
And look, I don't have any proof that this was intentional or a giant screw-up, but whatever is going on, it's a screw-up at this point, and it needs to stop.
And we need more and more people to wake up because the governments are so knee-deep in this.
Even if it wasn't intentionally done, they can't undo what they did.
And anybody who was involved in this will lose power and or, you know, go on trial for malfeasance, corruption, whatever it is.
I like to come back to money, power, greed.
That usually is something that most people can sink their teeth into and understand.
It doesn't have to be a dark, deep conspiracy theory.
It's just typical money, power, greed.
That's how it works.
It's been working like that for centuries.
Although you know what's going to happen.
The New York Times is going to publish an article that says, if somebody you know died from the vaccine, it means it's working.
Yeah, they will try that.
Well, over the weekend, apparently, an article came out that suggested the sudden rash in deaths that we're seeing, this epidemic of sudden deaths, is being caused by sweeteners, artificial sweeteners.
That's the new one.
That's the new one.
I actually collected a whole list of them.
There were so many, from obviously climate change to, I think you probably saw some of them, making your bed, to your alarm clock, when there's a daylight savings changeover, to, listen to this, aeroplanes flying overhead.
I heard paying your electric utility bill was also causing stress because of the No, that was that was actually one.
The other one that my favorite was early on when they said that cold weather and winter cold weather is causing blood clots and winter vagina.
Oh, I saw that.
Yeah.
Now, what exactly is winter vagina?
I don't think it's a thing.
And it's not something you really want to go around asking either.
Yeah.
And, you know, the other thing that was amazing to me is, you know, the Vikings who, you know, pillaged their neighbors to the south were able to do it while clotting.
They were coming off their Viking ships, falling down dead, but they still had enough strength to slaughter the much healthier, less cold, non-clotted Southern Europeans.
They're a tough group, those Vikings.
I saw one last week saying that a man died of excitement after all going to watch Avatar.
He dropped dead because he was so excited about the movie.
Yeah, avatars killing people.
I was at a dinner last night, you know, I'm not British, but I went to a boxing party, you know, I guess that's a British tradition, Boxing Day after Christmas.
So I went to one, my first one.
And we literally, you know, we're all the same mindset.
We just, we're talking with all this, how bad the world is, at some point you literally have to start making fun of it and laughing.
And you know, we're at the point now where I wrote a book, it's plain as day what's going on, and people who want to buy into what they're offering as excuses, I'm just laughing at you.
It's just, it's kind of, it's sad, but I have to laugh at these people who actually are willing to buy some of the ridiculous things we're hearing, like climate change, artificial sweetener avatar cold weather making your i mean at some point we gotta have fun but it does it does raise a few questions in my mind ed because why would establishment media be pushing so hard to deny
what seems pretty obvious well they got we we know for a fact that a big part of their advertising budget is pharma at least in the u.s i I know other countries don't have, I guess sometime in the early 90s, late 80s, we allowed pharmaceutical companies to advertise on television, which I guess was a mistake because this is where we are.
So they got a big chunk of their revenue there.
So if you're in the C-suite of a media company, The order goes out, anybody says anything bad against anything pharmaceutical, you're fired.
So these people in the back of their mind know they can't say anything.
Then the government gave them money.
Then they all got jabbed.
So it's like Stockholm Syndrome at this point for a lot of these media people.
I mean, if I was an anchor on NBC and I was told I had to get my fourth booster, and I'm feeling like crap, but my paycheck is tied to this, I know what I would do, but some people just don't think this through and they just want to be in denial.
It's easier to be in denial than it is to face the horror show that this is.
Really, it's a horror show.
We were chatting about Twitter a moment ago.
I'm curious to know, Ed, what do you make of Elon?
Elon is an opportunist.
He can read a room.
Lots of people are not good at reading rooms.
And you know, he rode the gravy train of progressivism.
Everybody in Silicon Valley, all the woke folks bought his cars.
And he smells the sea of change coming.
So now he's Mr. Freedoms of Speech.
Look, I think what he's doing, I can be suspicious of someone and applaud what they're doing.
So what he's doing is a good thing.
Do I trust Elon with my Neuralink?
No.
And that's the thing we have to understand.
We don't have to get into these ideological boxes of, you know, you're on my team or you're not.
If you do a good thing, I'll praise it.
And, you know, we don't have to agree on everything.
I think what he's doing is a net good thing.
Now, will I then worship everything that comes out of his mouth?
No.
And I'm the same way with Trump.
Trump did some good things.
Trump also is a very flawed individual, and I'm just never into the cult of personality.
If you're doing the right thing, I'll know that it's the right thing, and I'll applaud you.
But just because you did one right thing doesn't make you someone that I'm going to continue to worship or listen to every word you say.
And I think that's true about everybody.
We've got to watch what people do, not what they say.
And actions speak louder than words.
You know, we loosely call ourselves the resistance in this movement.
If some of us start going sideways and saying and doing strange things, you know, just because we did some good in the past doesn't mean we're going to continue.
So just watch what we do, not what we say.
I was telling a friend of mine, I said, look, you got to make sure everyone is not being bought or compromised.
Even me, if I start going sideways, call me out.
No one's bought me yet.
I love being right, so I'm right here and I'm not going to change my tune.
That's just the way I'm wired.
We were talking about global data earlier and Africa was conspicuously missing and I suspect it will maintain that status because the one thing that Africa I think has done right generally across the board in the last three years is rejected all of this nonsense.
Well, what I'd love to do is look at the data from Africa as comparisons.
Does Africa have good data on access?
Do they count the deaths correctly?
Do they have enough of a bureaucracy where they can at least record a death?
Probably not.
So what we wanted to do was, you know, eventually look at their outcomes.
And if we could trust the data, you know, put that next to the West.
And show no vaccines here, no excess mortality versus the West.
The reason we haven't done it is because I think it's just hard to get the data.
You could probably succeed with South Africa, I suppose, and maybe... Oh, I don't know.
I'm actually not sure what other countries that would be accurate.
We might try South Africa for sure.
What's the vaccination rate in South Africa?
Do you know off the top of your head?
Last I heard it was somewhere between 20 and 25 percent.
It's exceptionally low, and I think it's even lower than that.
Okay.
Yeah, we might have to look at that at some point, just to prove, you know, not even just as icing on the cake to prove our point even more.
But you know, look, I think there was also, wasn't there a There was a province in India that went straight to Ivermectin and their COVID cases plummeted and deaths plummeted.
I remember.
Yeah.
And I don't know if you remember this, but the mainstream media in the U.S.
tried to make India into this, like, fear factory, for those of us in the West, claiming that there were so many dead bodies they couldn't burn them fast enough and they showed stock footage of what happens in India every day, cremations by the river.
I mean, this is what happens in India.
And they tried to sell that, and that didn't work out so well because India wasn't on board with what was going on in the U.S.
They quickly, it was when the Delta variant came, Delta was sweeping through India, and then that narrative didn't hold, and it was quietly just kicked under the rug.
I don't know if you remember that, but they tried to put India forth as this hotbed of COVID deaths.
What do you make of what's going on in China?
Do you believe the media in this respect?
No, there's no...
Look, COVID zero policy is covered for an economic collapse in China.
My partner Carlos Alegria wrote a book called Economic Cycles, Demographics, and Debt.
He wrote it in July of 2021 and he talked about what's going on in China from a demographic perspective.
They hit a, interestingly enough, in 2020 they hit their demographic wall, meaning their population growth is now declining.
2020 is an interesting year.
I might just, you know, there are no such things as coincidences.
What does that mean for an economy?
That means their double-digit GDP growth rates are over.
They accumulated a ton of internal debt.
They built cities to nowhere, ghost cities and infrastructure that went nowhere.
And that was working when they had population growth and the factories were coming to China.
The factories stopped right after the Great Financial Crisis.
So what they've been living on is building cities and infrastructure projects to keep their economy afloat.
Well, the population finally hit a wall.
In the last two years, China is economically collapsing.
And they're having financial crises.
Evergrande was one of their real estate debacles.
And they're collapsing.
And there's not enough jobs.
There's food riots.
And COVID's zero.
And there's bank runs.
COVID's zero is to cover that all up and prevent people from gathering in the streets.
And it got so bad that It finally broke into the mainstream media what was going on in China with the riots.
But the riots had always been going on the last two years, you just didn't hear about them.
Now, they're so prevalent, now you hear about them.
And it's got nothing to do with, I mean, sure, there are people getting COVID, sure, but it's not because of COVID, it's cover.
And it's all about control and using it as an excuse to put down their own people.
One thing you need to understand about China is they fear Their population more than anything else in the world, their own people.
And I remember in 2002, 2003, when I was at BlackRock, the energy guys would go over to China because energy was starting to take off.
There was a commodity boom due to China's growth.
And they would come back and say, look, the biggest fear they have there is their own people.
And as long as they keep them employed, they're fine.
But they worry incessantly about not being able to keep the population employed.
So that's their biggest fear.
I mean, that was 20 years ago.
20 years ago they were fearful of their own population and they're even more so now.
So geopolitically, what does that mean?
That means when you have internal problems, to unite the people, you need an outside boogeyman.
So I suspect they're going to start creating conflict abroad to draft people and get people focused on anything but the fact that they can't feed their families.
Like Ukraine?
Yeah.
Yeah, they'll do Taiwan.
They'll do South Korea.
They'll, you know, whatever it is, they'll start something.
Do you foresee some, some bad news for Taiwan?
I think Taiwan, I think it's my humble opinion.
I think Taiwan at some point, uh, there's an international conflict, maybe a small scale invasion, but that it could be, could be next month or, you know, four years from now, but it's coming.
It's just a question of when, not if, in my humble opinion.
Ed, when it comes to the vaccination data, how much of it do you think is legitimate and how much of it is propaganda?
Which data are we talking about?
Let's talk about the U.S.
since that's where you are.
When you say propaganda, I'm not, which data are you referring to?
So when they say so many people have been jabbed, is the government perhaps trying to make it look better than what it might be?
I think, I think the numbers, well, I think, I think what they said, 75, 80% in the US, I think it's lower than that for sure.
And at the very least, a lot of people got one dose and stopped.
You know, because But the problem is that health risks have, as you've pointed out, gone up.
vaccinated two or one.
A lot of people got one and they were done.
And then they forged their vaccine card.
That's my guess.
But the problem is that health risks have, as you've pointed out, gone up.
So this is a scare for, I'm guessing, a lot of people who've now done a 180.
Yeah, so there's hope.
The good news is not everybody got the same injection.
What do I mean by that?
First, this was rolled out so fast.
There was a lot of compromises going on with the manufacturing facilities, a lot of degradation of the vaccine that wasn't stored properly or was left out too long.
You got some goop in your arm.
What you don't want is the actual mRNA nanoparticle, lipid particle delivery system.
So the good news is a lot of people got goop Because if it's left out over two hours, it starts to degrade.
The other problem is, they came in five dose vials, and if they weren't shaken, and you got the top of the vial, you got very little amounts of the vaccine, and if you're at the bottom, you got the hot shot.
So, I want people to have hope.
Don't think you have a ticking time bomb, number one.
If you get a booster, you're re-upping your chances of getting injured, so don't do that.
Also, the human body is an amazing thing.
And I think, you know, if you get into some of the protocols that they're coming out with, and FLCC is a, FLCC.com, I'm not affiliated with it, but it's a website that has got protocols to treat vaccine injuries and mitigate some of the damage that may have been done.
So there's a lot of hope.
I don't want people to think, you know, they're done and it's over.
It isn't.
So don't worry if you got it.
You can't live your life in fear because you might manifest illness just by being in fear.
And the other thing to consider is that there were a lot of placebos.
Yes, yes.
So that's also good.
I mean, it's a good thing.
So that increases the hope.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, so, but bottom line, every time you get a booster, you know, You're re-upping your bullet in the Russian roulette gun chamber.
Ed, after you finished writing your book, what lessons did you learn from that journey?
You know, I learned that I had a lot of opinions about why this happened.
And I wrote about it.
It was a good 6,000 words.
And when we were starting to put the book together, Gavin said, you know, this doesn't really fit in the book.
The book stands alone.
And I agreed with him.
And so we killed that part of the book, because it doesn't really matter who or why.
We just want people to understand that it's true, it's happened.
And to stop it.
So the big part of the journey was letting go of my theories.
I mean, I have theories and opinions about why this happened.
But at this point, it has happened.
It's real, it's true.
And that's all that we really need to get the message across to people.
The who and the why can come later.
And it's really about from my journey, I learned to let, you know, get my ego out of the way.
And realize the message isn't, you know, my wonderful thesis on what, you know, the Federal Reserve and Central Bank sovereign debt.
Who cares?
This has happened, and we need to stop it.
And at the very least, we can say it's a cover-up.
So, that's what I learned.
I learned that there's a way to convince people without assaulting their worldview.
And this book isn't for you and me.
It's for the family member who can't handle all the truth at once, but they can handle the fact that it's true.
I'd like to know your opinion though.
I would be fascinated by reading those 6,000 words.
Give me a summary.
They want me to write a second book.
I don't know if I will, but that'll be in the second book.
I mean, you've heard my opinions before.
I did a show with you where I expressed that.
I mean, we know what my opinions are.
It's a global debt bubble and they need to manage it.
And they need a control system.
Yeah.
I mean, that's, and what I just said about China is why China's doing it.
You don't think they want to do it here.
So it's not hard to make that leap, but a lot of people don't understand the nature of debt and money.
So it's too hard to get them there.
So I just want to say, hey, people are dropping dead like flies everywhere and they're getting disabled.
It's true.
It didn't happen in 2020.
Ask yourself why, especially for young people.
That's all I want to do.
Look, I'm not as close to the Ukraine situation because I'm really focusing on the COVID vaccine, but let me just give you my two cents as a financial guy.
What's the scorecard?
The scorecard is the Russian ruble.
That initially went down when the war was started, and now it's strengthened against the U.S.
dollar.
That's all you need to know.
So, he's winning.
Whatever he's doing, he's winning.
Because the ruble is not collapsing.
So, if that's the scorecard, that's the scorecard.
And you don't need to get too into figuring out what's going on there.
I'm all about, you know, objective measurement, and he's winning so far.
And one of the most interesting side commentaries is that the US dollar is getting stronger.
Well it is.
It is versus all sorts of other currencies and that's because of the nature of how the fiat system is created.
It's a debt-based fiat system.
The dollar is a world reserve currency and as a result of that a lot of the Countries over the last 20-30 years have issued dollar-denominated debt, because the dollar was in a constant devaluation mode.
Well, now that the debt is in all four corners of the world, and it needs constant credit creation to grow, the credit creation has stopped and stalled, and it's reversing, so we have a credit contraction.
So, in the credit contraction, If the dollar is a world reserve currency and everyone's issued debt in dollars, it will go up as defaults and scramble for dollars goes up.
So the dollar is going straight up.
I mean, it's taken a pause lately, but it's got cycles like everything else.
It's going to fail up.
So it's going higher.
And that's when they'll introduce the new monetary system, which will be central bank digital currencies, which You know, if we get to that point, it's the slave system and they can control every purchase you make.
And, you know, that's not me saying this.
This is a, uh, I forget the man's name, but there's a video of him.
That's real.
It's not, it's, it's from the Bank of International Settlements.
Um, Augustine, Augustine Costance.
Yes.
Yes, and he looks like he enjoys his food.
And there's nothing more appealing to me than having a control freak telling me what to do.
And he said basically we will control everything.
So if that's what you want to sign up for, more power to you.
I'm all about free will and liberty.
So that's where my head goes.
Back to Cause Unknown.
Ed, do you think, knowing what we know now, there would be a sequel?
Or do you think it just won't fly?
A sequel to the book?
No, no, not your book.
The events that have happened over the last three years.
Oh, are they going to try another?
Well, yeah.
So in October, They ran a tabletop exercise, much like the same folks who brought you Event 201 in October of 2019, just ran what's called Global Contagion.
Ran a tabletop exercise where they said, this time it kills the children, whatever the virus is.
And they then talk about how they need to convince the populations to trust their governments and stop the flow of misinformation.
Uh dead in its tracks with tighter censorship.
So if you think about that, these are the most self-unaware people on the planet because we're finding out that the censorship killed.
And so what they're telling you is we want to release something.
Let's use reverse logic.
We're going to release something more deadly that will kill you and we're going to gaslight you even more.
I mean that's that's that that's the plan.
I guess that's plan B. See the sequel is is Something more deadly, kills your children, puts you in more fear, and we're gonna gaslight you even more than we did before.
Good luck.
I mean, that's the sequel.
But anecdotally speaking, have you found that the people you surround yourself with are more alert now and they won't let this happen?
Yes.
I don't think it's going to work this time.
Look, a lot of people didn't know what they didn't know, but now people are very suspicious.
Trust has been forever kind of a good part of the population than lost.
And I think, you know, as much as you and I are into the subject, the person who doesn't pay attention to anything at the very least knows the vaccine didn't work.
I ain't getting another experimental anything.
That's that.
I mean, at least we've got those people.
I have met those people on this island.
You know, they're like, damn.
They're mad they took something because they thought they were doing their part, and now they find out it not only doesn't work, and now they're hearing whispers of safety issues.
So, you know, those are the people we want to reach.
The people who view taking the vaccine as tribal identification and virtue signaling, they're lost.
It's a religion to them.
But most people are not religious about this.
Have you found, Ed, in the last couple years that This whole pandemic narrative has actually also brought about a lot of good.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, look, I've had my views on what's been going on from a corruption standpoint and sovereign debt problem for, you know, better part of the decade.
And I really didn't talk about it except, you know, to people in the financial community who we kind of figured out had the same views.
Now, My world of understanding and the people I can talk to about it is, you know, quintupled there, you know, it's up maybe to the power of 10.
And, you know, I was talking, I was invited to the AFA Conference, American Freedom Alliance Conference in October.
And Karen, the woman who organized it, told me, you know, two years ago, if you'd said what you said, I thought you were crazy.
But COVID opened up her eyes so much that what I said in October, Uh, she said, you know, she, she believes at a hundred percent.
And again, two years ago, she would have thought I was insane.
So, you know, we're having conferences, we're having round table discussion.
This is, uh, you know, short shows like yours, uh, Bannon's War Room, uh, Info Wars, you know, it's, it's, you know, even Dr. Drew's starting to, you know, it's starting to dawn on him, something might be going on.
So, You know, this is what's happening.
People know intuitively deep down that the train's gone off the rails.
And how quickly do they get to whatever level of understanding they have?
What is good is that when you say things, you're not called crazy out of hand.
Yes.
On the battleground of the information war, you're standing there looking out at the horizon.
What do you see?
I see.
So everyone expects a hero moment, a movie moment where, you know, there's a big reveal and everyone goes, Oh, we won.
Nope.
Uh, it's a grind.
It's going to be a slow, uh, battlefield of the marginal mind.
And, Once you wrap your head around that, you don't lose hope and you just keep, you know, it's kind of like Schindler from Schindler's List.
You save one life, right?
That's it.
You know, Schindler in that movie, if I could only save one more person, that's what we're doing here.
And there's not going to be, you know, a hero.
There's not going to be any presidential medals of honor.
It's, this is, this is just, and then eventually there'll be a change.
And you know, whether that happens two years from now or a decade from now, I don't know, but you know, we're, We're starting to call ourselves loosely the Resistance.
And the Resistance to what?
To tyranny, lack of freedom, medical freedom.
We want to be able to take charge of our own destiny.
Vaccines and central bank digital currencies are an antithesis to that movement.
So anything that's for those, we're against.
We're also for freedom of speech and just basic human rights.
And I'm no longer affiliated with the GOP or the DNC.
I mean, Red Team, Blue Team, that's a trap.
Team Humanity is where we are.
And if you do the right thing, we all know what the... all of us deep down know what the right thing is to do.
And if you're about othering someone else and putting someone in a camp because they don't have their vaccine, you're evil and you need to know you're evil.
And if you don't think you're evil, then you're my enemy.
How can I get your book and where can I follow you?
So you can get the book on Amazon.
Go to skyhorsepublishing.com.
I have a personal website, TheyLiedPeopleDied.com with a link to the book.
I also have some data from the insurance companies.
I haven't updated the website in about two or three months.
I need to do that, but I got a lot of stuff there if you wanted to download some PDFs of some of my original early charts.
The book is even better because the book has QR codes that links to everything.
All the stories are linked to the original web page.
We QR code everything.
So you can, you know, when I talk about the Society of Actuaries, you don't believe me, go read their report.
I mean, you can go right to their report.
I mean, this is all very well documented, very well sourced.
We're already on the second printing.
I guess they printed 10,000 copies that those went in the Good as always to see you again.
My name is Germ, this is Germ Warfare, the Battle of Ideas.
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