Truth vs. NEW$ Part 2 (24 April 2022) with Don Grahn, Scott Bennett, and Holly Seelinger
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Welcome back, folks.
This is Foods vs. Zoos on the 24th of April.
Been a heavy, heavy show here.
Dangerous times.
Well done.
We got some developments in domestic politics, and that means Donald Trump.
He says that the range group of extremists are running the U.S.
I think he's got it right.
Pulling no punches, former President Trump excoriated Biden and his stumbling administration in his Save America rally in Delaware Saturday night.
That's in Ohio.
In this moment, together, we're staying against some of the most menacing forces, entrenched interests, and vicious opponents our people have ever seen or fought against.
And there he's just talking about the people in the United States.
Despite great outside powers and dangers, our biggest threat remains the sick, sinister, and evil people from within our own country.
He's got it right.
There's no threat as dangerous to democracy as they are.
Just look at the unselect committee on political hacks and what they're doing to our country.
While radical left murderers rape us and insurrectionists roam free, nothing happens to them.
No matter how big or powerful these corrupt radicals may be, you must never forget this nation does not belong to them.
It belongs to you.
This is your home, your heritage.
Your great American liberty is your God-given right.
He took particular aim at Biden's struggles and embarrassing moments.
We have a president right now, sadly, who has no idea what the hell is happening.
He's shaking hands with the air.
He's walking around somewhat bewildered.
He referenced an incident Monday where the Easter Bunny was redirecting the president away from answering reporters' questions during a children's Easter event.
It's no good.
Now he's taking orders from the Easter Bunny.
You saw that one?
You know, the Easter Bunny was a political operative.
He did a good job, actually.
That guy, we should hire him.
He was very good.
He said, no, no, don't talk, don't talk, don't talk to those people.
And Biden's doing all this while Putin does nothing but talk about nukes and destroying the world.
We have our signals very crossed in our country.
We've never had a situation like this.
He blasted the energy war under Biden as Russia is waging war on Ukraine.
Our country is being run by a deranged group of extremists, the treacherous crusade against American energy and Ohio energy, he said, being in Ohio.
While the Biden admin has attempted to blame gas prices and inflation as Putin's price hike, he noted his admin did not have the struggle Biden has given everyday Americans.
We had virtually no inflation.
They have the highest inflation in 47 years, and it's going much, much higher, costing families $6,000 a year.
That's bigger than any tax increase ever proposed.
And speaking of tax increases, we cut taxes more than any president in the history of the U.S.
Biggest, biggest tax cut in the history of our country.
And they intend to give the largest tax hike in the history of our country so they can do the Green New Deal and waste a lot of your money?
People who don't even know anything about the environment came up with the idea.
Such a hoax.
Just one of many.
Trump hailed his admin's response at the start of the COVID pandemic, blasted Biden for his struggles to curb the disease despite being given the facts to put into action.
They created unyielding and unsustainable and totally horrific mandates and radical mask regulations, while we did just the opposite.
We had far better success in every category, except for public relations.
You know, we were too busy working to think about PR.
They do a lousy job, except they have a lot of fake news, fake press.
These people right back here, they report fake stories all day long.
He also continued his criticism of political persecution and witch-hunt prosecutions.
The very same people who piously claim to be defending democracy are throwing open your borders, surrendering your sovereignty, defunding your police, prosecuting your politicians like no one's ever seen before, desecrating your laws, crushing your wages, diluting your vote, handing your country over millions and millions of illegal foreign nationals, illegal aliens I would call them, All without your consent.
You haven't consented to that.
On top of it, you had a fake, phony election.
He added, our elections are a laughingstock, vowed that November midterm and future 2024 are going to end the war on police in order to curb raging crime waves.
Help is on the way, he said.
The reign of defund the police, Democrats, ends this November, and even more so, it's going to end in November of 2024.
Scott, your thoughts?
Well, if he's saying he is waiting until 2024 to run, you know, I don't know if Trump's really going to be welcomed by the American people.
And I understand you know, his chances, and I understand what he represents.
But again, this was the greatest crime in the history of the United States, the stolen election, and Trump allowed this to go forward instead of shutting it down as a moment of national security, and of bringing in the military and going full investigation and full treating this like an act of war.
He let these lunatics come in, he handed over the reins, he's allowed them to ruin and run the country down.
And, you know, we even went on to talk about the shot and the base didn't like it and all this jazz, you know, Trump, in a sense, is out of step with the political social realities that people are really thinking And he better get in step if he wants people to really embrace him or else, you know, anybody can come in.
Trump can't be elected based on his prior, you know, claims.
of doing great things.
He has to demonstrate an agenda of great things he will accomplish, you know, and stop in the future.
So, you know, I see a lot of this political hot air, and I think to myself, you're not really winning people over.
And yes, the Biden and the Democrats are destroying themselves.
They are imploding.
They are going to annihilate, hopefully, under the election of 2022.
But again, it's a rigged game.
It's a rigged election.
They rigged and stole the election last time.
What's to say they're not going to follow exactly the same prescription?
And if they do, the only thing that can save this country is a bloody revolution.
Because they are engaged in massive traumatic mind control of children with their woke agenda, their critical race theory, and their homosexual transgender education.
And, you know, these wars in Ukraine, I think, are a distraction.
But yet all of these terrible things are occurring in the United States and to the American people.
The open borders, So Trump has allowed a lot of this, and it's not just politically inconvenient, it's acts of war in our own country by domestic enemies.
These are the people I swore an oath to defend against when I was in the army, against domestic enemies.
So Trump is out of step if he thinks this is just a conversation.
He's got to really start framing this, and I think the reason he's afraid of framing it as, you know, hostilely as I'm suggesting, he's afraid of it because people would say, if it was really that bad as you're describing, why the hell didn't you honor your oath as president and stop these people from doing it?
You allowed this to happen.
That's what he's afraid of, and they're exactly right.
He did allow this to happen.
But if he's a man and he's a leader, he's going to stand up and say, in no uncertain terms, what these people are doing, they should be tried in a war crime tribunal for crimes against the Constitution and crimes against you, the American citizens.
This is not political policy.
These are acts of treason.
And they ought to be arrested and tried by the appropriate authorities for acts of treason, what Joe Biden is doing.
And especially when you look at Kamala Harris isn't even supposed to be vice president.
So he's playing kid gloves in a lot of these things.
And I don't think it serves him well.
I think he has to get a lot more militant and aggressive if he wants to capture the nomination.
But 2022 and 2024, As Lin Wood says, nothing matters until 2020 is fully redeemed and the fraud exposed.
Otherwise, they're going to do the same thing in the next and inevitably every election following.
Jim?
And of course, once the fraud is exposed, it's obvious the president ought to be Donald J. Trump.
And I gotta say, I still have a lingering faith in the guy in spite of it all.
He was going to have to come clean with the American people about having made big mistakes.
Take credit for the lockdown.
Big mistake.
Take credit for the facts.
Big mistake.
Take credit for not having cracked down on the stolen election when it happened.
Scott, I think the American people are very forgiving.
And if Donald Trump can simply search his soul and find the courage to acknowledge his mistakes, I think he's got the future with the American people, bar none, unlike any other figure.
Holly, your thoughts?
Well, I just wanted to say something about, like, the Biden with the giant bunny rabbit.
Like, he looked terrified, like, when that rabbit ran up to him.
Remind me, I don't know if you guys remember that movie Harvey with, um, was it Jimmy Stewart or something?
He's got, like, an invisible rabbit, like, and there's another movie called Donnie Darko, where it's like someone is being terrorized by someone in a rabbit suit.
And I just wonder if there's something more to that story.
Like, it's got to be a handler or something, like you said, but he looked genuinely terrified.
Like, Someone suffering from dementia, basically.
You know, it's just really bizarre to see.
I mean, I'm laughing just because I can't stand Biden, but it's also, you can see the terror in his eyes.
Whoever that is, obviously that's not Biden as we've come to the conclusion, but whatever sort of person that's suffering from a mental disease of being terrorized by a rabbit on Easter is a little bit funny.
If he wasn't the leader of the free world, supposedly, That's right.
If we were just another doddering old man, we'd find it hilarious.
Instead, it's terrifying, because that's the guy we've got.
And Don's been showing some wonderful images that make it very obvious this is not the same guy.
Biden misspeaks, giving mask mandate answer to a Title 42 question.
Surprise, surprise.
Biden misspoke, giving an answer on a topic unrelated to the question posed.
Following a live address on renewed military aid to Ukraine, a reporter asked whether his admin is considering delaying the end of Title 42, the health policy that limits immigration, set to end next month.
Biden went on to answer, complaining Title 42 with federal mask mandates on planes.
No, he said, what I'm considering is continuing to hear from Biden.
First of all, there's going to be an appeal by the DOJ, because as a matter of principle, we want to be in a position where if in fact it's strongly concluded by scientists that we need Title 42, that we'd be able to do that.
But the DOJ is not appealing the decision on Title 42.
They're appealing a ruling by the federal judge that the mask mandate was beyond the legal authority of the CDC.
Biden finished by returning to Title 42.
There's been no decision on extending Title 42.
Following the press conference, the staff scrambled to issue a statement to clarify what he had said, of course.
I want to clarify in comments at the conclusion of my remarks this morning, I was referring to the CDC's mask mandate.
No DOJ action on Title 42.
The White House has had to clarify their President's comments many, many times in recent months.
During a press conference in January, for example, as Russia was massing troops on Ukraine's border, Biden said Russia might face fewer penalties if it involved a minor incursion.
Ukrainian President Zelensky responded by saying there are no minor incursions in small nations.
And Secretary Jen Psaki released a statement clarifying his comment by saying the President was clear with the Russian President, if any Russian military forces move across the Ukraine border, that's a renewed invasion, and it will be met with a swift, severe, and united response.
From whom, one wonders.
About two months later, in Belgium, Biden said the U.S.
would respond in kind if Russia used chem weapons.
The National Security Advisor had to make clear he didn't mean that we were going to use chemical weapons if Russia used chemical weapons.
Meanwhile, on the same trip, he told Army paratroopers they would witness the bravery of Ukrainian civilians while they were there.
The White House has mopped this one up as well.
The President has been clear.
We're not sending U.S.
troops to Ukraine, and there's no change in that position.
Then in Poland, he entered a speech saying Putin cannot remain in power, causing confusion whether the U.S.
is seeking Uh, regime change in Russia.
White House staff, again, had to clarify.
Biden was not discussing Putin's power in Russia.
He is not walking the statement back, but sought to add context by saying, I was talking to the Russian people.
It's more of an aspiration than anything that he, Putin, should not be in power.
Meanwhile, Tony the Rat calls mask mandate cancellation unfortunate.
Fauci wasn't happy, characterizing it as unfortunate.
A White House medical advisor has been disturbed.
Fauci didn't account for how Americans now have tremendous access to COVID-19 vaccines and treatments.
Well, Biden still wants to repeal the CDC Title 42 health order at the border.
Instead, he seems to want to preserve the status quo, even though COVID has precipitously declined in recent weeks in terms of cases.
Well, I follow the CDC guidelines, and the CDC wanted to extend the mandate beyond the 15-year period after April 18th up to May 3rd.
They wanted to see what the pattern of infection is during this bit of a surge we're seeing.
He just makes this stuff up.
Fauci's a master at bullshit.
Absolutely no question about it.
Thursday, the CDC instructed the DOJ to appeal the Trump-appointed judge's cancellation ruling.
To protect CDC's public health authority, the CDC asked the DOJ to proceed with an appeal in Health Freedom Defense Fund, Inc.
et al.
versus Biden, necessary for the public health.
They added, CDC will continue to monitor public health conditions to determine whether such an order remains necessary.
This week, social media and TV viewers were treated to videos and still photos chronicling the precise moment in which various airlines dropped the mask mandate for airplane travel, some of which occurred in mid-flight.
The photos and video show many maskless plane passengers celebrating their newfound freedom of choice after two years of flying with a mask obligation.
Of course, within this new freedom of choice, plane passengers can continue to wear a mask on flights if they so prefer.
This week, Press Secretary Misaki, in a tense session with the media, wouldn't press on the potential hypocrisy of rescinding 42 at the southern border, but wanting to keep public transportation mask mandates in place.
There's also the reality of states abandoning mask mandates anyway, en masse.
Misaki shot back saying, I'm not a doctor, you're not a doctor, I'm aware of, when addressing a Fox News reporter.
But listen to this.
Good morning everybody in Facebook land.
I have a little public safety announcement for everybody.
Let's, uh, let's talk about the air that we breathe.
This is a little gadget we use here.
I'm a union electrician and sometimes we have to work in confined spaces.
This gadget here will read whether or not the air that you're breathing is safe.
Okay?
It reads oxygen levels, carbon monoxide, methane.
If the atmosphere you're working in, in a enclosed, you know, in an enclosure, a confined space, is not safe.
The alarm goes off and it will tell you basically get out before you die.
Alright?
I'm going to hold this up in front of my face here a little bit and it's fine.
Nothing happens.
The oxygen is fine.
Everything is fine.
Okay?
Now let's do this here.
Let's put on a mask.
Now we're going to take the oxygen For the meter again, we're going to stick it just inside of the mask here.
And let's see what happens.
I'm just breathing normal.
Oh my goodness.
Look at that.
Look at my oxygen levels.
Now they want everybody to wear these masks all day long.
Now, if this was happening on my work site, we would have to get out of the confined space immediately because the air that we're breathing is not safe.
So now you're going to tell me that wearing this mask All day long is safe.
It is not safe for you.
It is not safe for your children to wear that mask all day long.
So I'm going to tell you what.
Stick that up your fact checker, people.
They don't work.
They might stop droplets from coming out of my mouth, but to wear these all day long, it is not safe for you.
People, Come on, wake up!
These things do more harm to your body than anything else.
Alright?
That's all I got to say, people.
Stay safe and live free.
Good morning, everybody.
Get rid of the GD masks.
This is terrible.
They cause brain damage.
They kill brain cells, which don't replace themselves.
They put strain on your cardiovascular system.
You're rebreathing oxygen, depleted air.
A meter was picking it up immediately, and we're putting this on little kids?
This is a disgrace.
This is a crime against humanity.
Scott, your thoughts?
You're precisely right, Jim.
It is a crime against humanity, and it was unconstitutional.
They had no lawful authority to do this.
The rejection by the Florida judge by a lot of these mandates and things that have been rolled into the legal arena are all going to show, at the end of the day, That all of these actions were unconstitutional.
They did not follow the constitutional process.
They sought to exploit the incident, which can be directly connected to the Biden Bioweapons Chemical Labs in Ukraine, to the animal-to-human transmission
Studies and it can be tied directly to Wuhan so you can see the trail uh and the release of this uh the bioweapon was used to overthrow the election and uh you know instrumentalize uh paper ballots and all these other things but it's it's had nothing but uh tyrannical effects on on lives It's being overthrown, but of course you also have this vaccine that they've created, which is a genocide weapon.
Everyone is standing against it who has a brain.
You see, of course, the mind-numbing idiocy of so many people Who cherish their masks like signs of bondage, like their chains of virtue, that somehow they are a self-righteous, you know, chest-thumping hero of citizenship by their compliance with this idiocy and wearing their mask in their car.
and uh on the streets outside and enforcing it on their children it it really shows me the depth of of of just retardation in this in this country when so many people follow it and the tyranny in the in the country it should never have been allowed And it must never, ever again be allowed to take root again.
And these Democrats have all used this to exploit and gain power, but it can't ever be tolerated anymore.
This was an act that is unforgivable upon the American public.
Jim?
I think you got it right.
Holly, your thoughts?
Well, I got triggered thinking about the mask wearing again.
I remember saying a year ago that it was a violation of OSHA that they were requiring people to wear a mask.
That guy did a brilliant job showing exactly what happens when you wear something like that for more than a few minutes, what we've done to children.
What these stupid employers have done to their own workers.
I've been just getting so upset thinking about what we had to go through wearing those things.
And if we got, like Scott talked about, when he refused to wear them in public or at certain places, he'd be harassed.
People were so rude.
People were violating people's constitutional rights.
I mean, your right to breathe oxygen.
I can't really think of too many more things.
More important than that, doing that to children.
And when I see, I still see people wearing them out in public right now, even though things have been normal for many, many months, if not a year in certain areas here.
Some places, things never stopped being normal, but every single time I see someone wear those things, I take a breath of oxygen for them.
Instinctively, I just take a big, deep breath, and I just feel so bad for those people who are literally killing their brain cells, making themselves sick, giving themselves bacterial pneumonia, all this stuff that is just obvious, and they're trying to do that to kids in other cities.
Again, talking about masking kids in schools again.
It's never going to end until people say no.
I think the mask-wearing is going to bring about an average diminution in IQ across the nation by about 10 points.
It's going to be very substantiable, very noticeable.
There's not going to be any way to mistake it that we have gotten dumber.
Meanwhile, Fauci says it may never be clear whether the COVID lockdowns were worth it, trying to create ambiguity when it's obvious they were catastrophic.
I don't think we're ever going to be able to determine what the right balance is.
I think the restrictions, which I tend to shy away from, lockdown certainly prevented a lot of infections, a lot of hospitalization, a lot of death.
There's no doubt about that.
Well, I would say precisely the opposite.
Studies have shown when they didn't have lockdown, they did at least as well or better than when they did.
So he's shoveling more of his shit.
He did say the level of restrictions imposed in the two years lead to unintended negative consequences, such as children not attending school, psychological effects, economic stress.
It also is leading to the failure to be able to learn language by a whole bunch of little kids who can't see how words are shaped by their parents and others because they're wearing masks.
A study by Hopkins published in January found the lockdowns have little to no public health effect or benefit, but they impose enormous economic and social costs.
While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have little to no public health effects, meaning beneficial, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they've been adopted.
In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as pandemic policy instruments.
But Fauci still thinks maybe we'll never know.
The study contradicts Fauci's assertion that the restrictions and lockdowns in particular decrease the death rate from COVID-19.
Overall, our meta-analysis fails to confirm lockdowns have had a large significant effect on mortality.
Studies examining relationship between lockdown strictness find the average lockdown in Europe and the U.S.
only reduced COVID by two-tenths of one percent compared to a COVID policy based solely on recommendations.
A study a year earlier by Cambridge University Press found the psychological impacts of lockdowns were not clear because the measures instituted had never been tried before.
But I'll tell you, sociological demographic studies show increase in depression and suicide, domestic problems, drug use.
This is all very obvious and predictable.
So what Cambridge UP is telling us there is not right.
The spread of the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 has resulted in an unprecedented series of lockdowns worldwide.
While they varied in stringency, they have substantially altered people's daily lives globally, affecting their work, leisure activity, livelihood, capacity for in-person social interaction.
It is difficult to draw definitive conclusions.
This is just more bullshit intended to leave it up in the air.
There's no reason to leave it up in the air.
Meanwhile, Hopkins reports lockdowns have little impact on COVID deaths.
They say, according to a new analysis, they reduced the COVID by about two-tenths of one percent.
We find no evidence lockdown, school closure, border closure, limiting gatherings have had a noticeable effect on COVID mortality.
They have had a devastating effect on the economy, however, and contributed to numerous social ills.
They have contributed to reducing economic activity, raising unemployment, reducing schooling, causing political unrest, contributing to domestic violence, and undermining liberal democracy.
Such a standard cost-benefit calculation leads to a strong conclusion.
Lockdown should be rejected out of hand as a pandemic policy instrument.
Citing recommendation of leading healthcare experts, 186 countries and many states impose restriction on work, socialization, in-person schooling, and travel early on.
At Imperial College, they claim such measures could reduce the death rate by up to 98%.
More total bullshit.
Researchers Steve Hanke, Jonas Herbie, and Lars Janung at Hopkins say that never happened.
Overall, we conclude lockdowns are not an effective way of reducing mortality during a pandemic, at least not during the first wave of the COVID here.
They examined deaths early and found it by May 20 of 2020, the end of the lockdown period study.
97,081 had died of COVID at the time.
had died of COVID.
At the time, one study had projected 99,050 without lockdowns.
Despite the overall finding, there was some evidence that closing bars helped reduce death.
That's got to do with less alcohol consumption.
I mean, it's just stupid beyond belief.
Closing non-essential businesses seem to have had some effect.
Which ones are the non-essential?
I'd say bars are about as essential as they get, which is likely to be related to the closure of bars.
According to the research, the timings of the lockdowns are unintended consequences that may play a large role in affecting morality.
Lockdowns have limited people's access to safe outdoor places, beaches, parks, zoos, including outdoor mask mandates or strict outdoor gathering restrictions, pushing people to meet up less safe indoor places.
We do find some evidence limited gatherings was counterproductive and increased COVID mortality.
Henke is a founder, co-director of the Hopkins Institute of Applied Economics.
Herbie is a special advisor, center for political studies in Copenhagen.
Joe Nung is professor emeritus of economics at Lund University in Sweden.
Scott, your thoughts?
Well, you know, again, we're witnessing a social mitosis in America between the smart and the freedom-valuing, family-valuing people and the moral idiots, the degenerate, decadent,
Perverted, woke, angry, ungrateful, hysterically miserable people versus those of us who, you know, appreciate God, family, and the natural law, and our freedom, and rights, and liberties, and understand that government is an instrument that we manufacture.
We manufacture government.
We create it.
To do specific things to enhance and make our lives better.
We're at a flip and it's amazing to me because, you know, it's even probably more amazing for you and Dawn, Jim, because you came from a time where this whole thing was for science fiction theater or Twilight Zone episodes.
And I came right between the cusp of that.
So I remember the 80s and now I look at this This entire woke culture is a culture of insanity and transgenderism.
Insanity.
And this pronouns, I'm a he, him, her, it, whatever, is insanity.
And there's a good video of a guy, a psychologist saying, you know, it's like when you say, I want to be called a woman or a man, it's like saying, well, I want you to call me handsome and brilliant and everything that you ever say.
You don't get that.
You don't get to say that.
I know Holly's saying, well, Scott, that's true.
You know, you are.
No, I'm just kidding.
This woke-ism is translating into all of these different policies of life in America.
And ironically, it's destroying life.
It's destroying people.
And it's going to be the snap That really triggers a revolution in this country.
People are not going to be pushed or bullied into an agenda of wokeism.
And, you know, I think people are ready.
And that's the question.
I agree with you, Jim.
If Donald Trump can get ahead of it and say, you know what?
When I get back into office, I'm going to end everything about wokeism through executive orders.
We're not going to have any of this stuff anymore.
Tolerating in schools, blue haired, You know, lesbian and homosexual kids trying to teach five-year-olds in kindergarten that they can cut off their penis and take hormone blockers.
All of that stuff is gone, is done.
And it's going to be remarkable if we survive as a nation.
I don't think we will.
In some parts, the nation is going to go completely stark raving mad.
I think you got it right, Holly.
see political division.
So this is just signs of the times that America is reaping all of the destruction and insanity that we've unleashed on other countries upon our own selves.
Jim?
I think you got it right.
Holly, your thoughts?
Well, we're already seeing a splatter.
I mean, these certain cities and whatnot, they've turned into like those CHAZ autonomous zones.
There aren't going to be any children left in those areas because any responsible parent is going to pull them out, get them out of those schools.
They're not going to want their kids to be groomed and turned into that.
I mean, it's a death cult, honestly, because you can't survive.
You can't have the next generation of children.
When you when you engage in just devouring the next generation like that literally it's it's dangerous.
And we're seeing a split without within the United States we're seeing that between the east and west that our countries that have had enough of that as well I mean Putin has always spoken out.
Against that sort of woke-ism and the toxic femininity or whatever you want to call it, the things that have kind of made women crazy here in the United States, turned a lot of people into Karens, turning into like the masked Nazis that we've seen, and people who are literally abusing their own kids to try to fit into this agenda.
And those honestly, those lock the lockdowns killed people because people turn to drugs and alcohol, their families split up, they lost their jobs, people committed suicide.
That's that's really what killed people.
And then on top of that, the hospital protocols and protocols to To put people on ventilators and stuff like that.
And you're right about Trump, he needs to say, you know, this whole thing was wrong.
It was wrong.
And point the finger at Fauci and others and say that it was wrong.
And take a take a page from DeSantis, who has really stood up to the woke-ism and everything over the past few months, especially in In Florida, I think he's leading the way and other governors and mayors are going to step up and the ones that aren't aren't aren't going to stay in office much longer they'll they'll scurry away.
I think that's right if I could see if DeSantis, if DeSantis wants the presidency.
He could threaten Donald Trump because all he needs to say is, I stood up against all this stuff and Trump let it happen.
If he wants to get really aggressive and champion and wants to run for president, he would have a good shot of dethroning Donald Trump because Trump has a lot of blame with everything we've gone through because he allowed it.
The question is, is DeSantis going to go that hard?
Or is he going to accept a vice president position?
I think the latter is probably in his cards.
Jim?
Well, Scott, you took the words out of my mouth.
I was just gonna say, Trump's got DeSantis on his tail.
He better not muck this up.
He better come clean and admit his mistakes.
Meanwhile, Disney stock tumbles amid fallout from the Florida controversy.
The stock hit all-time highs in March of 2021, $200 a share.
Since then, it's dropped more than a third, about $119 as of April 22nd.
It's lowest close in 17 months.
share.
Since then, it's dropped more than a third to about $119 as of April 22nd.
Its lowest close in 17 months.
At April 19th, it regained $131.90, but now it's dropped more than $12 more.
They've faced targeted criticism after issuing a statement opposed to a bill blacked by DeSantis prohibiting teachers to instruct on sexual orientation and gender identity in children in the third grade or younger.
What is Disney thinking?
At the time, Disney criticized the bill and affirmed its support for the LGBT movement.
Some parents have consequently said they're going to boycott Disney's products, movies, theme parks, and shows.
And rightly so.
Thursday, the Florida House passed a bill that would revoke the company's special governing and tax status in Central Florida, Orlando, where it operates a 25,000-square-acre parcel of land, including Walt Disney World and other tourist attractions.
DeSantis now has the option to sign the bill.
Believe me, he will do it.
The governor has accused Disney's corporate office of adopting a woke ideological framework and sulling its reputation.
When you have companies that made a fortune of being family-friendly, catering to families and young kids, you should understand parents of young kids do not want this injected into their kids' kindergarten classroom.
Of course, including President Biden, naturally.
I respect conservatives.
There's nothing conservative about the sign you're going to throw Disney out of its present posture because Mickey Mouse.
In fact, do you think we should not be able to say, you know, gay?
Biden observed it as Seattle fundraker, even though the bill makes no mention of the word gay.
He also claimed, I don't believe that's where the vast majority of American people are.
Well, if he thinks they're on his side, he's got another thing coming.
Everyone is now holding Disney in contempt.
Meanwhile, analysts have noted consumers are cutting back on streaming services, including pushed by Disney, Netflix and others.
Disney Plus, Hulu, ESPN Plus have the scale and management conviction to over time become massive global streamers, said a JP Morgan analyst.
But he added, this isn't necessarily as good a business as Disney used to have in TV.
The market appears to be moving past rewarding media companies, as it did in 2020 and 2021, simply for their forecast of future streaming subscriber growth.
Now it seems investors are looking further down the income statement and finally digging through the cash flow statement to determine the underlying steady-state profitability of the pivot to direct-to-consumer content delivery.
But the major issue is, of course, the degradation of Disney's image is family-friendly.
It could hardly have done a better job of demolishing that in a single act.
Meanwhile, defunding the police has backfired big time.
A movement to defund the police arrived in 2020 when BLM decided law enforcement somehow carried a vendetta against black Americans.
BLM, with other left-wing activist group, began rallying for police departments to be defunded or even outright abolished altogether.
Left-wing leaders eventually gave in, cutting funding for law enforcement, claiming the money would be better spent elsewhere.
Conservative warned defunding the police would lead to a massive uptick in crime and put communities in danger.
BLM didn't listen, neither did the Democrats who cut their funding.
As a result, defunding the police had led to a rise in black Americans losing their lives to crime.
In 2020, there was a 2,457 rise in the number of Black Americans who were killed.
No coincidence it took place near the height of the movement to defund law enforcement.
Portland, New York City, other communities under tight leftist leadership listened to Democrat activists who demanded the police be defunded.
On top of the rise of Black Americans who lost their lives, crime in general has skyrocketed in these communities.
With fewer cops around, criminals are more emboldened than they've ever been to carry out violence against others, something Republicans have repeatedly warned about.
The leaders and officials who chose to defund the police anyway now have blood on their hands.
Defunding the cops did not bring about the utopia BLM or other similar groups claimed.
Unfortunately, some Democrats to this day, such as Representative Cori Bush, are still calling to defund law enforcement.
Meanwhile, Bush is also spending top dollar to ensure she's never without private security.
Not only has defunding led to an increase in black Americans being murdered, it's also politically backfired on the Democrats.
That's why many have now come out and said they're not on board with cutting funding.
Claims of this nature have come from Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats who don't want to suffer the political fallout of such a terrible fallacy.
Unfortunately, Even with a fallout, the notion this is not a good idea remains contested within the Democrat Party.
There are still those who advocate defunding the police, which has to be the dumbest political slogan in the history of America.
Scott, your thoughts?
Well, it certainly is.
And this evokes, you know, a certain defense in Americans that if they're not going to have the police to defend them, then people are going to defend themselves by killing the violent by killing the criminal.
Or, you know, moving out of these cities.
That's one thing Donald Trump needs to address, you know, and say, you know what?
These, essentially, these shithole cities with lunatics and savages killing each other, you either defend yourself or you get out of the city.
You move out.
And everybody's moving out of places like Los Angeles, California for Texas and Florida and such like that.
So, you know, that really needs to be addressed.
I would love to see that 2020 statistic that you cited, Jim, where 2,147 more people were killed.
I'd like to see the 2,147 autopsies that were performed on those people and determine who were they.
Most likely black men shot and killed or knifed by other black men.
Or, you know, the vast majority of them.
That's the statistic that needs to be addressed and identified by every black group in America that claims to be pridefully black and, you know, is whining and bitching and moaning and crying about these black deaths.
Well, let's look at these bodies.
Let's look at the autopsies.
Let's look at the statistics.
Let's look at each individual incident.
And isn't it funny, out of the 2,147, you'll probably get, what, 2,000 of those were killed by other blacks in rage, homicidal, you know, drug, social decay situations.
And right there you see, aha, the black family, the absence of black fathers, the destruction of black neighborhoods, the addiction to welfare and all this other stuff.
You know, the decadence of the lowering of black culture.
This is to blame.
And people like Lori Lightfoot and the rest of these liberals are the prime progenitors of criminality, Jim.
No, you're exactly right.
Statistically, Scott, no doubt about it.
Holly, your thoughts?
You know, there's a lot of politicians who have really done nothing to help their communities, whether you're talking about Lori Lightfoot and talking about the crime in Chicago and her just ignoring it and acting like they need to get rid of the police.
I mean, it's the homicide rate there is just absolutely insane.
It has been for decades.
The drugs, like Scott said, the fentanyl, the drugs that are literally making people crazy at this point.
There's videos and images and recordings of shootings all the time.
When I lived in Metro Detroit, it was just constant, like kids getting shot in their own homes by just random bullets just flying through the neighborhood.
It was just absolutely heartbreaking.
So foreign to me.
It's devastating that people have to live that way.
in the United States.
And like I said, it's, there's been a, a divide now in the United States between these, these certain areas of the United States and rural areas or conservative areas, which are protected.
And people understand that the type of crime and drug abuse in this, the school, the prison pipeline, the, the prisons, the institutional prints prisons and the for-profit prisons, which Biden and the Democrats work to secure and make that happen in those states where they which Biden and the Democrats work to secure and make that happen in those states where they rely
Like Scott said, fathers, absent fathers, people, parents who are not there because of the drug use and the crime and the crime statistics and putting people into jail for life.
And then who raises the children?
The state raises the children.
The schools with child groomers in these schools now, they're not even learning anything in school other than being pushed with this crazy agenda that we see now, this transhumanist agenda.
So we are seeing a splintering here in the United States where certain areas are collapsing.
People are moving out of these areas like crazy right now.
California, New York, Chicago, a lot of these major cities, people are fleeing these areas.
That's a devastating indictment, Holly, and unfortunately it's all true.
We're in terrible, terrible shape.
Meanwhile, DeSantis could single-handedly bring an end to Pelosi.
This guy is smart.
Yes.
Republicans control the state legislature in Florida, so it could get even worse for Democrats as they begin the redistricting process.
538 threats about the fact that Governor DeSantis did not bend to the demands of moderate Republicans who wanted to appease liberal Democrats.
As a result, it become more challenging for Speaker Pelosi to maintain her ire grip on the House.
It will put her speakership in jeopardy, given the clear probability Republicans will retake the lower chamber in the November midterm elections, even in Florida alone.
Democrat strategists are worried Republicans are planning to exploit the rapid population growth, especially along the I-4 corridor, which experienced some of the biggest increases over the past decade, to eliminate some of the state's congressional seats, similar to the Democrat plan to encircle GOP Representative Kissinger's seat in Blue, Illinois.
They wrote, On Thursday, the Florida legislature finally came to DeSantis' wish and passed one of his proposed congressional maps, the last major piece in the national redistricting puzzle.
While DeSantis' uncompromising insistence on maximizing Republican power may give him a nice story to tell if he runs for president, it could also be the map's undoing in court.
Essentially, this map is a guarantee the Democrat representative in Florida will lose three of their seats in the House.
This is about as big of a Republican bias as Florida's congressional map could have, damn close to the most egregiously partisan map in the country.
It has an efficiency gap of R plus 20, meaning Republicans would be expected to win 20% more seats under this map than under a hypothetical What they're calling perfectly fair map.
Because Florida has 28 congressional seats.
That transfers to a 5.7 Republican bias right on Texas Hill for the need, the honor of having the biggest bias of any state.
It's going to happen.
The Senate has pledged to veto those who are opposed.
Only one of his uber-aggressive proposals would do.
His veep was a legislative proposal preserved in some form a blue district orientation whose old iteration stretched from Tallahassee to Jacksonville.
At this time, Legislative Reapportionment is not drafting or producing a map for introduction during the special sessions at Senate President Winston Simpson and State House Speaker Chris Sparrows.
We're awaiting a communication from the governor's office.
A new map applies a 21st Amendment directly to the seats held by Democrat representatives Al Lawson, Charlie Crist, Stephanie Murphy, and possibly Val Demings.
Not surprising the Democrats are upset.
It's appalling, but not surprising the Republican legislature has abdicated its constitutional duty to draft and pass congressional maps.
As proven by the proposed map, DeSantis is hell-bent on eliminating congressional seats, where Florida's minority communities have the ability to elect representatives of their choice, imposing his own partisan political preferences.
A number of Democrats are already vowing to file lawsuits.
Scott, this could be another sign of DeSantis' viability as a powerful force within the Republican Party.
Your thoughts?
Well, I think DeSantis is the lion heart and he needs to project himself as a lion heart and he can defeat Trump.
He really can because it's about perception.
And if he blames every bad thing that's happened on Trump's Cowardice, stupidity, lack of experience, and every bad thing that happened that he did because of bad advisors like Pompeo and the rest of them, Trump won't win.
DeSantis can dislodge him.
And Trump's cult of personality would work against him.
Again, Trump is incapable of changing to a certain degree.
DeSantis is not.
Trump is, what, 72 or in his 70s?
DeSantis is a young Kennedy age man.
So if people think Trump's a shoo-in, they're wrong.
If Trump thinks he's a shoo-in, he's wrong.
DeSantis is a very strong candidate, and if he wants it, he could win it.
Because the other thing, the other miscalculation of the left, Jim, is they fail to understand that a man with daughters and a wife Is made civilized and tempered by his wife and his daughters.
They make the barbarian a civilized man.
But they also make him a killer.
A kamikaze killer that will fight to the death to defend those daughters and that wife.
And that's what DeSantis is.
He's a Navy guy too, so he's got military rigor.
He's got military discipline and leadership.
Military men know how to be loud and yell and command and get into a fight.
So, DeSantis has enormous momentum behind his moral imperatives of defending his little girls and the home for his wife from these Disney predators.
And he's very artful, too.
He hasn't had any foot-in-mouth moments, which I'm very glad for.
I probably would.
But he's very skilled and diplomatic and soft-spoken in a degree.
But he's also got a piece of rebar in that soft, doughy pillow of his.
And that's coming out with the anti-woke laws and stopping all this.
And he is the hero.
He's done, actually, what we were saying to do, which was elect me And you will never be shut down, never be locked down, never be masked, never be mandated, and never be jabbed by a shot that you don't want.
DeSantis has been saying that.
We've said whoever says that will win.
So he's been saying that, and look, he's been the celebration of the conservatives because of that.
He's also coming from Florida, a very critical, important state for Republican election politics.
So all of this stuff is lining up that DeSantis is going to probably be in a superior position than Trump.
And remember, too, Trump's wife has already said she didn't want to be first lady again.
He's of a certain age.
And it was sort of, again, Trump was a flute getting in the first time.
It was because people were sick and tired of the establishment, and they hated and feared Hillary Clinton, and he came in, and he said all the right things about the establishment, Republicans, and all this, and people put him in there.
But then he failed to perform and do everything that should have been done.
He did a lot of good stuff, but, you know, there's a lot of stuff that he did that shouldn't have happened.
And that can come back to haunt him if DeSantis makes it a, you know, you shouldn't have done this, Mr. Trump, and America suffered because you did it.
DeSantis can dish it out better than Trump can.
So I'm watching this with a very keen analytical eye, and if I was to bet on a racehorse, I would bet on DeSantis over Trump, unless Trump has some mea culpa moments, Jim, like you said earlier, But sadly, I don't think it's in Trump's DNA or character to have those mea culpa moments.
He's too full of pride, and he's not got the strength to be humble.
Jim?
Nice delineation of their character differences.
Scott, Hawley, your thoughts?
Well, I could see like a Trump DeSantis ticket, too.
I think that that's possible.
I think that that would be certainly a winning ticket.
I don't think the people of Florida would want to give up DeSantis, though.
I mean, he's done such a great job in Florida.
They'd want to try to keep him as governor.
I don't blame them.
He's one of the few governors who have stood up to all the insanity.
I mean, so many people have moved to Florida just from the lockdowns and the mask mandates itself, never mind.
The other things like Scott said standing up for children and families and he really has like the suburban moms and the women and the anti Karen's on his side just because he has stood up to.
For families and for schools and for kids and so in a way that we don't really see here in the U.S.
I mean, our politicians are just so, so horrible.
I mean, we really have low expectations for them, which is kind of funny.
And I do think, I mean, Trump is quite old at this point.
I mean, he's got a lot of energy.
People always talked about how much energy he had.
And I can't imagine the hell that Melania went through as well.
It would be hard, you know, being married to someone after all that, that they've they've been through with the media and just everything, the death threats, the, you know, murder attempts, all the craziness that I can't imagine.
Even with like the best security in the world, you probably have to be watching your back the entire time.
So I can't imagine what people go through in those those cases.
Nice, nice.
Nice points, Holly.
Meanwhile, Joe Rogan reveals The numbers, the attempts to cancel him have caused Spotify's subscription to go up massively.
It's backfiring.
All the recent controversy have resulted in his subscriptions increasing dramatically.
On Friday's episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, a prolific broadcaster proudly proclaimed, his already immense audience has grown significantly.
British author and commentator Douglas Murray talked about how Rogan was attacked by the legacy media.
You have been through the ringer since we last met, he told Rogan.
They did a number on you.
Wow!
Rogan replied.
Interestingly, my subscription went up massively.
That's what's crazy.
During the height of it all, I gained two million subscribers.
A report from January 22 estimated the Joe Rogan experience has an average of 11 million viewers per episode.
If fortunate, the people who went for it were CNN, and they're just so untrustworthy.
Rogan then bashed CNN personality, including their chief media correspondent, Brian Stelter.
People know how biased they are and how socially weird their effing anchors are.
Just these awkward, non-relatable people.
Like if there's someone on TV like Jon Stewart, a great, relatable person whom I find to be a brilliant guy and a kind person.
If Jon Stewart thinks you're a piece of S-H-I-T, I'm gonna listen.
But if Brian Stelter doesn't like you, that doesn't mean anything to me.
Actually, it's probably a plus.
He added, everything about Stelter is strange.
Rogan and Murray then tore apart his cadence and pattern of communication, brought up a time when the former New York Times opinion editor, Murray Weiss, demolished Stelter on his own reliable source of TV show.
Murray recalled watching CNN last year and said everything in the coverage was horrible and inflammatory.
Everything in the advert breaks were for, like, adverts about the KKK's history in America.
So all you saw all the time was, like, burning crosses.
Then there was relief from the interview stuff.
It was just horrible to watch.
Later, Rogan discussed the cancellation attempts that have failed.
He admitted the negative press probably worked on people who didn't like me already or those who would be more inclined to form a stereotype.
I mean, I'm problematic.
I host cage fights, you know.
That's one of my side jobs.
I comment and explain how people are beating the F out of each other.
Yeah, that's part of my job.
It's a weird gig.
Murray said known celebrities like Rogan and Jordan Peterson can survive cancellation attempts because they are established, but he's worried that somebody starting off who did not have a body of work behind them could be susceptible to cancel culture.
Rogan noted, if someone has a typical job out of the country, it's frightfully easy to fire someone.
And the one thing people will do when they encounter a level of frustration is they lash out.
And if they can lash out inside the rule book, it's like the rule, I was offended, F him, get him fired.
He's experienced controversies the past several months, including claiming the stand-up comedian took horse dewormer to treat COVID when he took the human version of Ivermectin.
It was a boycott of Spotify by musicians over alleged COVID misinformation disseminated by Rogan.
He apologized for using the N-word in old podcast clips he claimed were taken out of context and function as a political hit job.
Rogan is surviving.
He's alive and well.
Thank you.
Doing very, very well.
Scott, your thoughts.
You're muted.
Yeah.
Mute.
Mute.
All right, sorry, I couldn't get it open.
Yeah, I think, I think, you know, the funny thing about Stelter is he looks like a child molester.
He's got that Cheshire grin, and he just looks like he's a predator.
And of course, the other news anchors there that that the what is it the brother of the New York governor?
What's his name?
Chris Romo.
They're all failing and falling down on the ratings for reasons.
The American people are saturated with the BS.
They recognize it.
And CNN is crumbling as a result of it.
So I think, you know, the other thing about Joe Rogan, he's, again, he is a militant fighting guy, so he's got a different persona altogether.
And the more people, I think, react to wokeism as an assault, On our sensibilities as an assault and as bullying for what it is, the more they're going to push these woke Nazis back into, you know, the abyss where they belong.
So wokeism itself, I think, is going to burn itself out very, very quickly, just like the Black Lives Matter hoodlums and hysteria and violence that occurred over the summer of 2020.
That too burnt out really quick, and I don't think people are ever going to tolerate that again, Jim.
Unfortunately, as in the other cases, it's going to leave a trail of carnage in its wake.
Holly, your thoughts?
Yeah, Brian Stelter is really creepy.
All those guys are super creepy.
They just like, I don't know how they get on TV.
I mean, maybe, well, we're living in a cacistocracy, so it's like rule by the worst.
So it's like the creepiest people are the politicians, creepiest people are in the media, etc.
Chris Cuomo and others.
People, they had to leave.
CNN Plus dissolved.
People aren't watching them.
They they can't keep lying to people.
They're just not feeling it anymore.
And Joe Rogan, it was like what they call the Streisand effect.
So the more that you say, you know, this guy's crazy, you don't listen to him.
People want to listen to him.
People want to find out what did he say that was so bad?
And then they realize this guy is not really saying anything particularly controversial or scary.
And saying that Ivermectin is horse dewormer, people aren't falling for that anymore.
So they've really tried their best to get rid of a lot of people like that.
And he is right, though.
I mean, if you have an established base and then the lamestream media tries to throw stuff at you, you can try to survive.
But a smaller, smaller group of people, you know, they can try to destroy us and censorship, use censorship and get us fired from work and and smear us and it really does it really does destroy lives every day this type of censorship they've the left has done so much to destroy so many people at this point it's it's really devastating and heartbreaking and their ironies so a lot of this Chris Wallace moves from Fox to CNN thinking they're going to have a surge with their streaming service and it collapses.
And he's gone from having tens or hundreds of millions of viewers to 10,000.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.
Don, it's just been a joy doing the show with you again, and with Holly, and with Scott.
We are having a, you know, if the news weren't so god-awful, we'd just be a really happy group.
Acclaimed, but the way it is.
It's very hard, that's for sure, but it's getting rough, and it's getting close to the end times, they're saying.
And I will say, as far as the CNN, looks like they're at an end.
How about that?
We're starting stronger, and I think that truth isn't going to win out, but boy, It's been a struggle, and it still is until the end.
So I really thank you for watching, folks.
And this is Truth vs. News here, April 24th.
And the first hour is something else.
I'm not sure if you can stand it, but this is really a dynamite show.
And we thank you so much for watching, and wish you the best as we head into May next month.